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I think adding a "mindless" gamemode like tdm would also fix this problem since people will play powershift to actually okay and win and not just getting kills
I don't know if this is only happening to me but I have a Pro Circuit challenge that says "Deal 4,000 damage from a distance of 100 meters or more." That has completely stopped tracking. I'm well over 100 meters away and it will not move at all. I'm I doing something wrong?
Give Light class Claws like Wolverine and every attack drains hp
The goo gun is such a demoralizing thing to play against at least give us the ability to shoot through the goo if we get stuck in it from the gun @violet wing I just be gettin good on
Please fix the servers. I keep getting disconnected in the middle of ranked tournaments and even if I get reconnected it still deranks me. If I canāt get reconnected I get a 10 minute ban. It says hi-tech rodeo Server not responding; we cannot connect you to a match TFGE0001. Between this and the matchmaking ārankedā has almost become unplayable.
ahahah I don't want them to change it but I feel the pain lol, i had painful flashbacks reading your message.
I literally just tried a game after losing 2 straight to disconnecting teammates, and we started WITH TWO PLAYERS. This needs to be fixed. Zero remedy to a ranked match where youāre playing a man down for the entire match and arenāt allowed to leave.
yea this seems to be the worst issue with the ranked matchmaking tbh. i've had the same issue
Well, i thought it would be cool to have attachments so nvm then, so ill suggest to reduce a lil bit the recoil on lewis and m60, not having good medium - ālongā distance guns on heavy is kinda oof
stun gun is only really good for stopping steals, other lights, or melees/flamethrower. feels like a waste of time to stun for a kill otherwise instead of just going for it normally
i was in a match wouldnt load into the third round. restarted the game and reconnected, instantly loaded in. then got kicked and now my friends are playing the final round 2v3, i have no rejoin button, and have a (granted very short) ban.
- M60 change sounds good tbh
- Nor Lewis or FCAR should stay as it is, yeah, the Lewis needs back its old recoil but both Lewis and FCAR need nerfs, no automatic weapon should have that TTK, specifically FCAR, I dont understand why hasnt been touched yet, it has one of the most fastest TTK for the easiest weapon to use in the entire game
- All Melee weapon users should have an 10%-15% speed increase while holding its weapon, specifically riot shield, chasing targets for an entire minute until they heal its annoying using any melee weapon.
- MGL grenades should detonate on impact with enemy players, I think being a 2-hit for structures or surfaces is good and it can even help to get kills while being in cover, but yeah, it should detonate on player impact.
- KS23 should really be perfectly accurate, at least when aiming, that's true
- Flamethrower needs something. I think it only needs a fastest bullet speed, its damage doesnt feel bad but sometimes people just run arround you without getting any damage at all and... maybe a little bit more range.
- Anti grav cube is a 50% radius increase, yeah, sounds really good tbh
@vast sage Stun gun lets you get the most easy kills on the game tbh, I think stun gun should left as it is but without getting you stuck in the same place, mostly because that gives you a fully free kill if the stunned is using a short range weapon
@stoic onyx I hope not, the game already struggles with balancing, having that kind of things always makes the game super repetitive and boring due to the broken builds always just following the meta builds, which makes any other build unplayable
go play bf or cod
KSA shoots trough shields please someone report and massban this kid. he has been hacking for weeks and i dont know who to tag!@
people need to stop trying to do these challanges when all they do is fucking throw games. "sorry dude, i gotta use the sledge for challanges, i dont care that im going 3 and 12". shoulda fucking left that game from the very start
REVERT CLOAK BACK THE WAY IT WAS!!!! From what I can tell Balancing in this game is always going to be a problem between 2 game modes - Casual vs Ranked. Lets use Light Cloak as an example but it applies across the board. In casual mode people whined & complained that Cloak was OP simply because Game play style in casual is different from Ranked. Ranked players never complained about Light Cloak because Light isnt played much in Ranked because its too weak & doesn't offer enough utility for the TEAM. In casual mode there are so many players who are not team orientated or even objective orientated they just run off by themselves doing their own thing chasing "KILLS" which make them easy picking for a flanking Light player with Cloak to kill > out on their own separated from their team with no support of their team chasing kills doing their own thing. In Ranked however TEAMS run tight & u don't often find players out on their own separated from their team doing their own thing chasing kills so a flanking light with Cloak doesn't have much impact or benefit to the team hence why its not played much in ranked.....too little HP & not really any utility to benefit the team except a Glitch nade & now maybe Portal but otherwise useless because tight teamplay that is objective driven in Ranked leaves a Light with Cloak pretty useless. Ranked also has alot of TEAMS (friends who play together) who use comms & coordinate well as a team so solo queueing into ranked with rando's that dont use comms or coordinate makes it hard to play against a bunch of coordinated teams. Casual players are much more likely to separate from their team & run off alone chasing kills & not be team orientated or objective orientated, just mindless killing so a Light with Cloak can be useful in casual. Light with Cloak is not OP if players play as a team & stick together like in Ranked, its only a problem in Casual because people dont play as a team & work for the objective. Its supposed to be a TEAM game with an OBJECTIVE to win but casual players just run around looking for kills instead. Its not a BALANCE issue at all, its a PLAY STYLE issue. If u think a Light with Cloak is OP then ur playing the game wrong & need to start playing as the game was intended to be played......as a TEAM trying to win the OBJECTIVE! If the Devs just did "balancing" to suit Ranked play it will force casual players to play as a Team to win the objective as the game was intended to be played & if they dont want to play that way then its bad luck for them. The Finals isnt about Kills its about the objective but too many players (especially casuals) just want kills & dont care about the objective. Lost count in casual mode how many times my team had the lowest kill counts by a mile but won the round because all the other teams cared about was kills. My suggestion would be** 1.) REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS! 2.) TAKE DEFIBS OFF M & GIVE THEM TO LIGHTS TO GIVE THEM MORE UTILITY FOR TEAM BASED PLAY!**
flamethrower is completely busted, especially on power shift. flamethrowers should have a shootable fuel tank to give them a downside so you can blow them up or something
there's no good reason why a single heavy should be able to jump on the platform and kill an entire team of mediums and heavies before they can kill him
I know FPS games are suffering from hackers at large but this game is a cess pool of cheaters. High ranked games are becoming unplayable. Please hire capable anti-cheat devs
This whole fkn team was spamming 100% headshots, if the next big patch doesn't make a huge dent in cheating then I'm done with ranked. Such a painful waste of time. How about when someone reports a player in game, the server temporarily starts doing server side checks to validate activity from the reported player.
And you need to require phone number authentication for all accounts, and the country code for the number has to match the location of the players IP. And when that number is banned it can't be reused. Put a time limit on changing number to 1 year or something.
Devs, i came up with a good idea, what if we had a skin for the throwing knives? a mexican themed skin, "The Chanclas" (Sandals), yeah, just like mexican moms way
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Maybe if the death count went down if you got revived, more people could revive. This is a complaint I keep seeing on this server. I only play pubs but feel bad if I die more than I kill. In tourneys, there's limited lives, but people will still rate themselves poorly if they die more than they kill, even if they have to play to win.
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I promise I have so much more ideas for this game but I get tired of writing these long posts about my ideas.
-I have a gadget idea for the light class
-I have a sports betting themed idea
-I have an idea that deals with twitch integration or built-in live streaming
-I have ideas for the ranking system
-I have ideas for the heavy class
Hell, I even have ideas on how to integrate NFTs in order to create another stream of revenue for the game and it's developersš¤·š¾āāļø I know somebody wants more money.
Ive never been so invested in a game. Id pay them to take & test my ideas if they would open up that avenue.
Hope you guys have been considering thus farš
Imagine getting upset at casual players playing casually in casual lobbies
This is a paradoxical thing to ask but stop listening to the community so much. Art needs strong direction to be good and voting by committee really doesnāt lead to good things. Im tired of having things nerfed into the ground every 2 or 3 weeks. People are whiners. So many fun things are gone
Two PRE guys are cheating in ranked. They're in Diamond at the moment. I don't know how to attach this to a report so I'm sorry if this is the wrong place.
I agree it shouldnt slow someone to being useless but just take away sprint or some speed. and I also think the cool down shouldn't be so quick so it can't be spammed so much. but if you're fighting someone head on with light and try to stun them they will most likely kill you with hip fire before you can kill them. and if you sneak up with someone and stun them and kill them, the stun seems unnecessary and a gives them time where they could turn and around and start shooting back
Many asian users out this game by cheaters.
So asia server can't play rank fast. this makes other server full with cheaters.
Fact, discord in china say "we have to go NA server"
I think, will be full with cheaters at EU server too
i know you, all you do is try to argue with people. go do something more with your life than try to rile people up on the internet loser. actively doing something counter productive is considered throwing, so if you want to support throwing go right ahead. @wide void yeah, i am. because i need to win for my daily and these losers who suck at melee are blocking my ability to win, past 3 matches ive had people who have ran sledge and cant do anything. @pseudo latch smoking weed and beating your meat doesnt count as a hobby
Just because people want to complete their contracts in the casual gamemodes doesn't mean they're purposely trying to throw your games. Blame the stupid contract system before people just trying to play the game as they're directed to. Get over yourself.
@near snow "I need to win for my daily." Sounds like another issue with the contract system, then. Reroll it if you need to.
Well, there's 2 sides of this coin, a lot of people say things like "they did X useless" when most of the time its not, Lewis recoil change is the better example, a lot of people said than nerfing it "to the ground" made it unplayable, that's not close to be true, the weapon has the exact same TTK and in high ranks, no recoil pattern matters, people will memorize it, FCAR had a similar treatment and is still the easiest and strongest weapon in the game, that proves than a lot of people complain about the "nerfs" just to justify than they like to win with the less amount of effort and skill, RPG 140 dmg nerf or Recon nerf are other 2 examples, 140 dmg is basically the same for any class except for light, people complained about it being useless even when the only real change was than it was no longer able to literally one-shot lights with an explosive weapon
But Ill agree than some nerfs was unnecessary or bad implemented, like the DB shotgun, the C4 or the dagger
There's another thing, people usually say "with X nerf you made the entire class useless" when that X is a weapon, if they nerfed FCAR, a lot of people will complain like FCAR was the entire class, when its not, there are another bunch of weapon mostly well balanced for the same class that are in the shadows exactly because an OP weapon overshadows the others
so yeah, tons of things are being poorly nerfed but most of them were actual good decisions and people just complain cuz their weapons or gadgets are no longer an easy path for melting entire teams
@vast sage that's a good observation, but still, Stun gun is probably the most annoying gadget in the game, it means free kills most of the time, most of the weapons cant kill you with hipfire before you kill them, I just hope the rework give stun gun a proper use without letting it useless
@wintry trout Its not broken lmao, most of the weapons can kill a FT user before it kills you, even when FT its a short range weapon
Youāre joking right? Flamer deals 80 damage a second, 90 if you count flame ticks. Thatās not only less than any of mediums weapons, thatās less than half of the DPS on any of their guns but the CL40, and even that one kills faster than Flamer can. A single medium should be able to handily murder a single flamethrower heavy, let alone 3+. Git gud.
Watch for his approach, mark him and make space if he goes for a high-height slam, then melt the bastard.
@near snow trust me, Iāve plenty more fulfilling hobbies than this Iām enjoying as we speak, Iām just a prolific multitasker, and if telling you off for ragging on people trying to have fun and get their weeklies done makes me an asshole, then I wear that with pride. If you want teammates who are there to win, go play ranked, otherwise leave people who are just having fun with the game alone.
I play heavy which means I know what is and isnāt busted. And flamer isnāt busted
you're literally a heavy main, you don't get a vote on how busted heavy weapons are
https://id.embark.games/es/support just click on Create Ticket, below your name and follow instructions
flamethrower should be removed from the power shift so busted and completely unplayable
it said I need their ID's which I don't have
have you tried using smoke grenade/cans ? also a heavy with a shield or even goo gun can do wonders against it
My take on the cloaking device, how I would like to rework it and why.
How it would work
- Entering into cloak now takes 1 second to complete and has a distinct sound with no activation cost.
- Cloak will now render the wearer 100% invisible regardless of stance and movement.
- Moving while cloaked will be loud, however loudness is now subjected to movement speed. Sprinting is very loud, crouch walking is much quieter, standing still is silent.
- The duration of a full cloak meter is 12 seconds.
- While cloaked, the wearer is unable to attack or use gadgets, but weapons that can be charged up or play an animation before attacking such as the sword will keep the wearer cloaked, releasing the charge instantly decloaks the wearer.
- Manually decloaking or expending the full cloak meter will immediately play a distinct sound and take around 0.3s - 1.0s to finish decloaking, depending on what value would be most suitable, you can only attack and use gadgets after this delay.
- Taking any form of damage instantly decloaks the wearer.
- Recharge time from an empty cloak meter to full takes 12 seconds.
I like your suggestions, theyāre really good š
please never incentivise dealing damage at 100 meters again this is fucking cancer
remove the fking sniper
A fellow millennial friend of mine says there should be a Goldeneye 64 like reload where your weapon goes down off screen, you hear two generic clicks and the weapon comes back up
new 6th rank? ruby? saw this when i loaded ranked for the first time on a new account.
WE havenāt got it yet but plz make the reticle on diamond fcar to blue. Itād be such a nice touch for a skin that shouldnāt even be that hard to change. Itād give it that nice flair.
@static wolf gods I hope not so tired of red ranks like champ and Apex predator and emeralds. I want a new like ore or mineral as a rank something that hasnāt been seen before
Pretty sure they're just changing platinum because it looks the same as silver
Iām a heavy main which means if anyone has an idea of what is or isnāt busted on heavy itās me, and flamer is one of if not our worst gun. Its damage and range are so pitiful compared to other close range options. Its only benefit is multi target damage in which three people shooting one heavy wins into one heavy doing 90 DPS to three people.
It also means I know what kills me. If you think/know a flamer heavy is on the way, draw attention to it. Ping it and start shooting it, lower its HP before they even get to play. If they take a launch pad for a slam, distance yourself from allies, hop up on the divider or take cover behind your shielding heavies, or just plain get off the platform till the slam is done, if theyāre shielding, shred it. Meshā regen speed is pitiful, if you break it, he will not get it back before dying without wasting a metric shitton of time.
Pls stop nerfing stuff to try and fix people's skill issue.
That is all.
heavy main means you get no say in the matter on power shift all you do is jump on platform and hipfire and people are instantly dead, and skill issue doesn't apply to things that are completely overpowered, if mediums could one shot all class like you other lights and heavies can would you be saying the same thing about skill issue? i strongly doubt it yall are just using meta stuff and whining about the meta being nerfed cause in reality you suck too, just like the people you claim have a skill issue
except in power shift they'll just jump down from a rooftop and wipe your entire team in 3 seconds, even faster if they charge and smash into the platform. before you can even react you're literally torched to the ground even as another heavy
I play all 3 classes and there is no reasonable counter to flamethrowers being used that way on any of them
all other weapons that hit multiple targets are countered by the APS
plus flame counters gas, nothing counters flame. where's the water barrels, where's the gadget that sucks up nearby fire
it's straight busted in power shift and nothing a clueless heavy main can say is gonna change my mind
this channel, and all the channels, are completely full of people saying the same thing
when every match has a minimum of 2 flamethrowers and they dominate the platform from start to finish, it's pretty obvious that it's a problem
when there's like 30 weapons and there's such a glaring meta that 90% of them are worthless even in the hands of truly incredible players, it's not a skill issue, it's a balance issue
It's an easy fix, just make smoke counter flamethrower
I know you folks are probably getting inundated with these messages, so I'll keep it short. Y'all are doing a great job, and really appreciate the work that you've been putting in! That being said, I'd really appreciate some way to reduce the 4k damage over 100m challenge. I've got a mid PC, so actually resolving anything at that distance is quite a challenge. Thanks!
What I did was use generade launchers from heavy and medium and stay far from platform to complete the contract. Found it to be more efficient than sniping from far. However try to go to practice range to get a feel for 100m
Why?
- Extending the time it takes to enter cloak rewards enemies that are able to detect and catch out a cloaked player, adding more risk and making the activation cost punishment unnecessary. Maintaing a sound cue when entering cloak still allows enemies to prepare for your attack if you cloak too close to enemies.
- Though true invisibility is very strong, it leans more towards utility and less towards being offensive (from my other changes) as spotting a cloaked light can either be trivial or difficult depending on resolution and settings, keeping it 100% is the best option for everyone, especially ranked, cloak will be much more consistent when traversing and enables for better stealth potential which was the original intended design.
- Retaining loud and distinct cloak audio adds fair counterplay, the difference being the loudness is now based on movement speed, this makes other movement options favourable in different scenarios and punishes careless movement harder.
- It already works this way and isn't a problem.
- Being able to attack and use gadgets from cloak (in my opinion) is what made it so unfun to play against from a casual perspective, especially at the range you were able to operate and combining the stun gun. Allowing weapons with a charge up time or animation before attacking still allows for an effective ambush and makes weapons like the throwing knives and dagger more attractive choices.
- Adding a delay when decloaking is the fairest route since you'll be able to position yourself in less predictable and more advantageous spots, it also gives enemies time to react if you do it too close especially without gunfire to hide the sound, it adds another variable and risk to cloak, as to what the delay should be, I think it should not last any longer than 1 second due to the fast paced nature of this game.
- It already works this way and isn't a problem.
- It already works this way and isn't a problem.
PLEASE FIX THE LAG OMG
The contract fixes need to come soon Iām going to bootcamp on may 6th and I need more XP this 4k dmg from 100 meters challenge feels impossible as if itās not even progressing
@wintry trout @rose verge
You know what's insane?
You don't have to play powershift you know?
You can play Bank it, or Cash Out, or Quick Cash.
Powershift is just a fun casual mode that the community wanted, and where fun, off-meta stuff like the grenade launcher, sniper, flamethrower etc. get a place to actually shine where they're not really found much else in the other game modes.
It's not meant to be balanced around. The community wanted more game modes. We got more game modes to play now. Is that one not fun for you? That's fine. You have 4 others to pick from. OR you could just play a different game and come back when the balancing works better for you.
Stop forcing Embark to balance around what YOU think the game should be.
Takes like these are why we get nothing but nerfs every patch, and why everything feels equally unfun to use because it's all shit.
That's what I mean when I ask to stop balancing around people's skill issue. I mean, the flame thrower? Really? I can piss further than that thing can shoot.
Played 2hrs 6 games ranked and 4 of them we had dudes just leave. This has to be fixed. 200hr and I love this game but it's dying it we can't even complete a match...
I just played a ranked match and the server died mid-game, or something. I couldn't even rejoin. Just kept getting a server failed issue. Not saying people aren't leaving the ranked matches, but it could be server issues as well.
Properly played and supported Heavy w/ flamer + mesh shield is a literal unit up close. What makes it hard to counter is not even the damage output, but the fact that you can't see sh*t when you get flames thrown at your face (which makes sense).
However I don't find it any stronger than other Heavy weapons, especially since it can't be of any help to the team beyond close range. A Light with ED runs circles around a flamer or sledge if he doesn't get surprised/isn't stuck in very close quarters. He just has to dash away while pouring on the helpless Heavy opponent. Eventually using glitch nades if the Heavy player goes for panic mesh shield.
they should add skibidi toilet head in the finals
real
Power Shift should limit teams to 2 of any class at any given time. No more than 2 Lights, 2 Mediums, or 2 Heavies.
Yeah, I've had middling success with that so far, so probably a skill issue. C4 on a cash box has also worked :p
https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1218156215008235613 they have a specific channel for power shift
bank it, cash out and quick cash are just casual modes, the game shouldn't be balanced around them, it's a competitive shooter, so only tournaments matter
or maybe, every game mode should have balanced weapon use so 2 or 3 weapons don't dominate every match, making it impossible for other weapons to be enjoyed
where's the game mode where throwing knives aren't shit?
where's the game mode that incentivizes using only melee weapons?
where's the sword fight mode? where's the dagger fight mode?
why doesn't medium have any bad weapons?
the game should be balanced for all modes
if that means adjusting weapons when used in specific modes then so be it
but just because a mode "casual" doesn't mean it should be completely unbalanced
the TTK for most weapons is just way too low
this game used to feel more like a Halo where you actually have to shoot people a fair bit for them to die. if someone shoots you from behind or the side, you have a chance to react and if you're more skilled, you can win a fight that someone else started
but at this point you've got weapons that are 1-2 bullet kills, you have full autos like AK and FCAR that kill so fast that you don't even have the opportunity to turn around before you're dead
almost all weapons are too strong and make the game more about waiting for revives/respawns and walking from your spawn point to the objective than actually playing the game
and in certain modes, like power shift, there's an overwhelmingly glaring problem of weapons like the flame thrower, sledge hammer, sniper, etc. because unlike the other game modes, you have one single objective that everyone is always trying to take, and you have to be physically on it to progress
so yeah, I can piss further than the flamethrower
but that doesn't matter when the platform is small enough that the flame reaches across it, and if you take a position along the middle portion of the wall of the platform, you can hit all points on it with a wide spray and kill multiple people
according to mr heavy main above, the flamethrower does 90 damage per second if you include the fire ticks
that means it kills a light in 2 seconds, a medium in 3 and a heavy in 4 seconds, and it can hit multiple targets
plus you don't have to hold it on one person at any given time to kill them because you can sweep and reapply the fire dot that can really stack up quickly
to be able to jump onto a platform and torch 3-5 people in only a few seconds as a single person is absurd
so what if you have 2 people doing that? 3? you can kill even a heavy in a literal instant and there's no gadgets that counter it
remove flamethrower from power shift individually if need be, we can live with absurd amounts of snipers but flamethrowers make playing objective just so unfun
Ima be honest medium feels so boring there's guns just aren't really that satisfying I think light has fun stuff but there not my thing idk
Bro light just dies instantly Its honestly so sad, It makes playing light as a main the worst and I honestly just cant 1v1 a flame thrower heavy with the dagger, Fire is and instant death sentence
There's a bug similar to the heal gun not working I found on the heavy. I don't know if anyone else has encountered it yet, but here it is.
Here's my loadout. Charge'n Slam / MGL32 / RPG-7 / Barricade / Dome Shield
SOMETIMES after I die I will be unable to use anything in my kit. I can still melee but nothing else will work. If I die again I will have access to the entire kit again. I can't seem to replicate the bug but on average it happens 1-2 times per match. I didn't see a bug section anywhere in the discord but I'm hoping this reaches the team.
Stungun nerf idea
Gamers need to hold primary fire button for a few seconds to charge and release the botton to shoot a target
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The shoot will fail if gamers realse the button when charging time is less than 2 seconds,and the stungun goes to cooling -
If gamers shoot after charging for 2
seconds the effective range will be 3 meters it will take a total 5 seconds' charging for the stungun to reach its full range
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During the charging process,the stungun will let out a buzzing sound,as charging time increases the buzzing will be louder and louder until the charging reach it's full state,at the point the buzzing will keep at a certain volume.
I'm a middle school student and not a native speaker,please forgive my plastic English
I'm a heavy main rank player, however I'm trying to shift to light.Being a turtle do help me win,however,despite the winning ratemight be lower,being a ninja is far more attractive.And according to
the patch note there's gonna be a nerf for stungun,and I don't want that nerf to be like, making the gadget sucker in a general way, I want the nerf to be more in a strategic way thus offering it's user a conquerable skill gap while giving opponent a chance to counter it.
Dogshit idea
I think that the APS should only block a limited number of projectiles before it automatically breaks, you could keep the balance by reducing the amount of HE grenades a player can hold so that a team of players still use a significant amount of their resources to brute force the gadget.
Also, you should add an option to favorite weapon/gadget skin and have the ability to randomize the equipped skin per game.
i feel like an update to the mini events on the map, i know that theres alot of options already, but it would be really cool what else they could come up with.
im level 90, but you can see level 86 87 88 all have XP progress done but the icons are still locked..
Ranked has so many cheaters again, something needs to be done soon. Ranked tournaments take way too long to play as it is just to get knocked out in the third round or lose a final to cheaters. These guys are getting to Diamond by cheating and making it more difficult for honest players to reach their goal of hitting Diamond. There's no indication that the report system leads to bans and even the most blatant rage hacks aren't being detected by your anti-cheat measures.
I JUST CAME HERE TO SAY THAT!!!!
im actually done with ranked until they do something. In high ranked lobbies, its almost every tournament. like wtf. Literally 2/3 games i played tonight, AND i lost my Diamond3 because of it.
Nerf fcar
Stop nerfing fcar and just buff ak
Is anyone struggling to find a ranked match? Been searching for 10+ min now
since the game is set in a virtual reality
is it possible to have a seasonal setting where the theme is medieval and fantasy combat with magic involved?
i.e. having magic wands as weapons or having the RPG replaced (as a skin) with a staff that casts fireball?
Bring cloak back to its former glory or the game will croak and die
The game is averaging around 10% less max concurrent players per day since cloak was nerfed ONLY ONE WEEK AGO @willow leaf
Imagine thinking cloak was the only thing holding this game together. lol how do people think like this?
Cloak is killing the game. Its way more than that LOL
10% daily loss has been the trend for a while now.
The M1 does too much damage to heavies. It melts us too quickly. It should at least take two magazines. Otherwise, why even call a heavy heavy if he canāt tank rounds.
Oi! Cheaters can now "kick" any player they want whenever they feel like it! Give me the option to rejoin the match!
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS
So 1 hour waiting for qeue, the timer resets after 1 hour (nicely done embark, afraid to show that ur dead game takes hours to find a single match), yes the timer goes back to 00:00 after it reaches 1 hour. but the most amazing thing u can get after this amazing qeue timers is a light player on your lobby that makes you insta lose the game, so u can get back to another amazing qeue timer.
As usual the report buttons are just for fun, nothing happens when u actually report someone. So my question to Embark is, WHAT ARE U DOING ? cause let me tell you making the game better is not what ur doing.
If u want to put all the firepower on heavies and all the broken support abilities on Mediums, thats ok, but make light players unable to play ranked matches. Useless class. I dont want to spend 1 hour in a qeue which is completly insane, to get paired with ppl "that play a competitive game for fun".
Also for the ppl that read this far, if u "play a competitive game for fun", yeah... time to stop playing video games and get some psycological help.
Buff guns like the famas,revolver,burst pistol and akm and nerf the fcars damage
Permanent invisibility is OP
Obviously it takes 1 hour wtf, how easy do you think is to find cheaters to grief your game and blind lights to lose your game?
Be reasonable š
@orchid dragon Get gud, youre so bad it even hurts to read D;
@violet solstice "OP Light"? Bitch what am I reading, get out of bronze kid xD
Nah its not possible...All Ive heard forever now is how OP Light players are so it cant be the Light players fault u lost.....say it isnt so!!! All these M & H's that want Lights nerfed because they are so OP cant be wrong. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS & take Defibs away from Medium & give em to Lights to make them more of a utility in Team play! @pastel turret yes because it wasnt like Light wasnt already the weakest class in the game (glass cannon) with little to offer as Team utility except Glitch nades. Its so easy to kill a light but lets just nerf the Cloak so they are even weaker & easier to kill than they already are...lol u just cant make this shit up! I have to fight Lights as well that have Cloak & Stun gun & I managed just fine. Ive never used stun gun but have been on the receiving end of it plenty & still managed to hip fire kill the light so keep crying about the weakest class in the game & how OP it is for u poor M & H players to deal with. APS, turrets, defibs, healing beams, Dematerializer, Jump pads, Zip lines, Fcar, Multiple shields, C&S, heavy weapons with large magazines, RPG, mines etc etc etc.& what does Light have??? Glitch nades & now a portal...cloak,grapple & dash to choose from.150HP vs 250HP & 350HP with all the toys...U act like Lights shouldnt ever be allowed to kill M & H's like its an offensive thing. Play with ur team & lights are not an issue! If lights with Cloak were so OP then Ranked would be full of them but its not becos its all just BS from no skill M & H's who dont ever want to die to a Light!
No they donāt need buffing
-Recon senses removed
-Teleport gate added
-Fcar recoil increased, dmg fall off nerfed
-Refib nerfed
-Glitch nade buffs (detonate on impact with dome etc)
-Lewis recoil increased
-Mesh shield Hp down yet again by 25%
-Heavy shotgun nerfed
-etc etc.....
Then for once light gets nerfed which liteally just requires you to take better engagements and not rely on invis toggle three times in quick succession and the crybaby mob won't stop.
Invis + taser is just anti fun, no matter the level you play at.
Can we get aim assist with the goo gun on console
Can we get a wait timer please? The <1 min indicator means nothing as I just waited for 5 minutes before giving up. If the game is not there then Iāll go play something else but just waiting and hoping is frustrating.
Ranked is alot better 
Worse than ever.
try waiting 2 hours
fix the anticheat it's been like 4 or 5 security updates and people are still full on aimbotting in diamond lobbies
Glass "Cannon" tf you mean I get killed in less than a second. That is not an exaggeration, FCAR kills a light in .55 of a second. And our only useful team gadgets are sonar and portal. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE NERFED ANYMORE FOR GOD FUCKING SAKE WE ARE ALREADY THE WORST CLASS. I've done over 300 damage to a heavy before he just turned around and 1 shot me many times, not to mention flame heavies that you literally cannot counter with melee
lol dude go back & re-read my comment & insert "sarcasm" in that statement I made! I was taking the piss cos Im sick of all the whiners complaining about Lights being OP when they are clearly the weakest & easiest to kill class (glass cannon) in the game smfh. I am a Light main who used Cloak & I stopped playing after they Nerfed Cloak cos Lights were already weak enough & they just keep listening to the whiners & making Light weaker & weaker cos M & H's get so offended if a Light with Cloak manages to get the drop on them & kill em...sheesh. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!
Then why do you troll , dont come ranked as Light , ranked is a grading system, to you and the rest of this shitty community, Light as no place in ranked , unless you're full party and your team is ok with you throwing, you shouldn't be able to lock Light in solo q.
@violet solstice STOP TROLLING LIGHT MAINS DONT EXIST SINCE LIGHT DOESNT EXIST IN RANKED.
Dont revert shit, take it out of the game entirely so 5 year olds that cant see how useless it is wont pick it š
@rose surge Game is dead cause Lights exist šŖ
@floral prairie have you tried using Medium or Heavy? Not being useless is actually op and really fun š
Have you tried using invis and stun gun. It is actually really fun, yes op but fun to use
BRING BACK THE CLOSED BETA SLIDE. combat becomes very stale, especially with this ttk (not implying the ttk needs changing). I really like how the finals has a sandbox approach to things but the sandbox aspect definitely lacks in face to face combat. Also more airstrafe control would be nice as well as being able to crouch mid air for hurtbox compression. The new (post cb) movement system feels very unresponsive and sluggish. Please more ground to air momentum conservation. Client side movement, reducing or removing jumpsquat frames, and making chain jumps eat less of your momentum away. Also increase the mantle animation speed as well as add a crosshair indicator or smth for a mantle-able object. omnidirectional sprint and slide as well. Remove the damage multi (i think 0.4x or smth) on unactivated mines, breaches or c4's. The pocket sand and cl40 mine stuff was nice but sad to see it gone, removing this was kind of a statement that the sandbox approach the game initially had is starting to fall apart. Nukes were honestly pretty cool (even as a light player), outright removing it was a bad play as it removed the "monkey ingenuity" aspect to the game linking back to what I said earlier about embark and the sandbox approach to the finals
The game lacks movement on all classes on all classes, especially light (light=sans where low hp but good dodging to make up for it, simultaneously the highest and lowest theoretical hp pool). maybe some xdef stuf as well as wall kicking would be nice, nothing like titanfall 2 or anything, just something to give the players another dimension of control during fights. In a head on 1v1, whoever aims the best wins, but if movement was introduced it would allow for players to also use it to dodge enemy fire.
Make the game WAYYY more stressful. i want it to feel more like i'm actually there, the trailers have communicated that but the game so far hasnt shown that. more crowd engagements.
EMBARK STOP LISTENING TO THE WHINERS
Complain about 1h queue time, at 6 AM is quite.... special, at least
So unless you didn't know, this game has a casual community and it's incredibly annoying for abilities on a FUN build to be nerfed like they did with the cloaking device. I personally don't play ranked because im a casual game and for you to shit on another casual gamer because of you opinion in ranked is just weird
Devs, Everything here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53GXhJZDOK4&ab_channel=THiiXY
lowk bring back the og clock its unbearable to play light now
ur playing for fun, u don t care about meta, so u don t care about nerfs, stop trolling pls, stop being delusional
Guys the devs are not at fualt.
This is the most valid feedback ever in this section, it's insane how negative some people to the nerfs things that are unfun to fight against amd defend them with their blood
How can you say light is useless. They are only useless because cloaking device got nerfed.
And yes I have play medium and heavy and I donāt enjoy playing them.
Have you played light and used the sniper or m11 or xp. Most games I play the best preforming players are on light.
Also @dull fulcrum casuals do care about nerfs especially when they nerf something that we use like the cloaking device. As a casual we do care about meta but we also care about enjoying the game and for me that is running around as a light.
@maiden horizon agreed with the devs are not at fault.
I believe in you Embark
It is and always was, before and after your "cloaking device nerf".
"donāt enjoy playing them." some people enjoy feeding with randoms in ranked I understand š
"used the sniper or m11 or xp" I have, sadly the *not blind guy on the other side will have have healed, shielded revived and shoot you back, by the time you have reloaded your first mag, if you haven't experienced it yet, see you in another 500 hours.
" As a casual" why are you interested in the "meta" if you just want to "running around as a light. "? It doesnt matter if " light is useless" or not, since you "casuals" "donāt enjoy" "medium and heavy" š ?
@rough herald Now this is something that is worth attention...APS is something else...xD
APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (oh no bad luck Day 13 of asking)
Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever
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Suggestion:**
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
side note: for the love of RN-Jesus just let me play with my fav gun cl-40 Without a aps fcking me over.
Like How are you suppose to kill someone WHO CAN"T TAKE DAMAGE??? its like playing riot shield without the shield
(embark pls fix
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Light class needs a rework, I use to play light untill I realized how much better M and H are, and for ranked M and H are the only options in higher levels of play, I find the gadgets to be fine, except for thermal vision itās just bad, flash bangs should last longer, and in my opinion, have glitches last 7.5s instead of 5. grapple definitely needs a rework its pointless to run. it should have a shorter cool down or be able to use it twice something needs to change. the cloak nerf makes people want to use dash even more now, invis has the least movement for the specials nerfing it makes it so much harder to escape any situation. I agree stun gun can be op but just nerf the range and itās fine. Anyways most of the guns are horrible too, the xp, sh1900, lh1 and m11 are the only viable options, the xp is definitely the best. Heavyās are almost balanced, I just find the rpg to be op at times, especially if ur running M,H,H with two rpgs. also heal beam is a must have, at least in ranked, good heal beam players are op
I just lost all the progress I made in ranked today to a first round knockout from a cheater team with the typical Lewis gun cheats. I don't see the point of even playing ranked anymore, it's way too punishing and there's so many cheaters getting all the way to Diamond and ruining tournaments for people.
Please Nerf stun gun and flamethrower
i think we just need a second medium class but call it something else and give different weapons and abilities
"Sorry" but "the game" "in my personal opinion" "only" shall be "fun" in the first place, and with all respect "you" take it maybe a "tad" too "serious"
Breathe in and breathe out, have some patience and hope in the good course of development actions, after all the game is rather fresh, and new patches come out pretty often!
as a light main since day 1 reaching diamond 1 as well..
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SH1900 feels useless right now
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CLOAK nerf was rough but cloak is still viable, however i think testing around 18%-25% activation cost instead of 33% would be a little better
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LH1 animations or epic skin with animation would be amazing
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SWORD is a little powerful, there is a bug where the charge time can basically be bypassed as well (needs fixing)
the class works well in all game modes, however this is just my opinions and maybe could be taken into consideration in future updates, much love!
There is so many South Africans that want to play this game, but they can not play on europe servers with 200 ping then they leave the game.. Come on guys give some love to your game and add South African servers please
This game would be better if it was just the light and heavy class
So why are we hating on casual players again, for a start there's no reward aside from cosmetic items for this game in reaching high ranks or being good at the game so why would you care about meta anyways if your grinding out ranked for what... a shiny akm skin. The game is honestly casual at its core on my servers (oce) if anyone deserves the right to vote and voice their opinions on the guns, abilities, and gadgets it is the casual community, they're the ones trying to have fun in the game and if you class yourself as "pro" you should be able to win your games no matter how much the game changes because that's the idea, your good because you can work with what you've got, not with what you want.
Ranked queue times are absolutely absurd right now
please clip these stair cases on skyway
Flamethrower is so broken
I would love a accuracy counter
Buff C4. We can't make nukes, it does less damage and we can't even use two in one go, it's just a sad shitty breach charge. I'm not saying you have to let c4 return to its original state, but either buff the damage or give us two, its not that hard
what a fair match, 2 diamonds against teams with golds and a SILVER on my team
Actually wouldnāt be a bad idea EMBARK and also add more statistics in the career statistics area in the main menu
can yall fix this dumbass bug where i play the same map for 8 hours in ranked? yall said u fixed it but its back
I genuinely think that there should either be team text chat so u can talk to your team in lobbies (and maybe in game idk) and a way to add your in game friends as steam friends. Because unless everyone turns on voice chat, there is 0 way of communicating with new friends and or teammates. Met this person I really liked playing with and they wont join voice chat so I have no way of adding them on discord or steam to keep the friendship going. I think implementing this would benefit the finals in both general health and finding new players to play with as well 
its good for heavies who cant traverse its also really good at getting to point A from point B, if your dislike is the fact that it takes forever to get down, thats true ig, but why are you taking jumpads in low gravity š
deadass i dont care about any balancing in this game just fix the anticheat
I hope with the new patch and maybe an even on top of that the queues will shorten drastically at least for a little while
Idk what y'all did for spawn adjustments last time but I don't really think it's any better. I'm still spawning in on 3 stacks, getting spawned super far away while defending points, etc.
Real. I spent two hours trying to look for a game and haven't found anyone yet. Bummer. Last season, a lot of people played ranked, and I could also find a game in minutes. 
Imagine getting killed 7 times using aimbot+wallhack lmao, plz ban cheaters mid game
What region are u in lol
Unable to post a thread, most likely due to low level after joining
Is anyone here a GL main? After the inital patches to reduce the stacking effect of mines on arena throwables, the effect has had weird things happen to the damage of the GL and I want to know if it's normal
The strategy of throwing a mine at someone and then immediately shooting a GL has weird stacking, this is essentially just using a gadget as a super low range and high damage extra GL shot. But the damage stacking has made this extremely hard to do, when the mine is thrown the explosive damage of it is almost none until it hits the ground unless another player/enemy shoots it. Sometimes throwing the mine in a specific arc to predict a motion and shooting a GL afterwards makes the mine not explode at all and it will land on the ground after, removing the risk/reward of it. Other times the damage is so minimal that it would have been better just to not have thrown a mine at all. A few times it will work and you get the big instant splash damage. It's really odd and it making using it as a strategy extremely unreliable at times
I'll try to repost this with video after being able to create a thread
its unfortunate that this game is going the way it is. when it was in beta it had so much potential. but the devs are really throwing away a beautiful game. in my opinion i think we need to shut up and let the devs do what they want. every "balance change" was a direct responce to consumer "complaint" now that they are being listneed to people arent happy with the game .Mediums are mad because their playstyle has become boring since its the most op class. Heavies are tired of being unjustifiably nerfed. and lights are being taKen off the map with the unwarranted nerfs. We need to come together as a community and support the developers vision and not our own. this is their game. not ours. and in every aspect we are destroying what is possibly our only chance at a free fps without being chock full of pay to play content after already paying premium price for half a game. i personally have moved on from the finals due to the aforementioned issues. but i must admit it breaks my heart to see gold be throw away because of a community that wants to mold a game into something the devs dont want it to be. and to the devs reading this. We want to see your vision not anything else. @floral bane I mean the small ones like the c4 damage decrease/their land mines etc
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
- While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
- Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
- Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
- Increase damage from 84 to 90
- Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
- Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)
ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:
- This would help them to compete
IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:
- Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger
FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:
- Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
- Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
- Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta
Excuse me why havenāt you added emoting in the lobby, I think this would be nice to addition to the game, please let us emote in the lobby so we can see what are friends are up to while they havenāt readied up
Wdym unwarranted heavy nerfs every single one has been more than warranted, even after everything its still far and away the strongest class
Move defib to light. It would give light a place on meta comps while nerfing the goats of the finals
Move defib to light, it fixes having the dynamic of both defib and heal beam on the same class, creating a toxic and unfun playstyle for ranked
defib is made for medium because medium is a support character
Change the soundtrack of the end of tournament to bits or smth related to S2 style.
Remove SBMM / MMR from ranked. What's the point of having ranked with different tiers in it if you're going to match someone through a hidden mmr system outside of their given ranked position anyways? Throwing a gold player into diamond / plat lobbies also only hinders them from the climb up in the ranks themselves. There's no point. People play ranked to make the climb, improve their own gameplay, and prove to themselves it's all worth it by seeing their improved results over their opponents in the same rank / lobbies. MMR eliminates that and just gives someone who put the time in to get good an unnecessary difficult time to earn the rank they deserve in the first place.
If you're going to keep the MMR and start placing people outside of plat / diamond into plat / diamond lobbies, then just save them the time and just give them the rank. The SBMM / MMR already determines they are playing at that level (however the system mysteriously determines that anyways), so might as well just give it to them? But even then it could still be argued, again, what's the point if you just skip everything....
TL;DR: Ranked isn't rewarding at all if you're just going to be constantly playing against opponents of equal skill across each rank tier based on SBMM matchmaking. Makes the whole system pointless.
ur tldr basically saying a balanced ranked system isnt good? dont' get me wrong, the system is dogshit and unbalanced but what the fuck are you talking about?
Shooting cancelling the model's reload only some of the times is obviously inconsistent and makes using the weapon feel weird at points. Shooting should cancel the model's reload regardless of the state of the animation (Unless there are no shells of course)
Just quit the game I did feel a lot better cus itās good but terrible in a lot more ways than good
If you have ideas to improve it or any other feedback, that'd fit in this channel much better!
pls optimise game performance thx. recent updates made it worse, stuttering and such
lot better cus itās good
Would be nice to see "X cheaters were banned since last patch-notes" along with general patch-notes, so ppl stop complaining that nothing is done with cheating problems.
And/or "someone you've recently reported had taken actions against" message when something is done from in-game report.
how to fix aps
make the projectile detonate when it gets aps'd not just vanish, throw gas at aps , gass lingers, you get some damage on the boat riders, same with flash's and frags
Guys. Please fix the lag. Please.
My take on the cloaking device, how I would like to rework it and why.
How it would work
- Entering into cloak now takes 1 second to complete and has a distinct sound with no activation cost.
- Cloak will now render the wearer 100% invisible regardless of stance and movement.
- Moving while cloaked will be loud, however loudness is now subjected to movement speed. Sprinting is very loud, crouch walking is much quieter, standing still is silent.
- The duration of a full cloak meter is 12 seconds.
- While cloaked, the wearer is unable to attack or use gadgets, but weapons that can be charged up or play an animation before attacking such as the sword will keep the wearer cloaked, releasing the charge instantly decloaks the wearer.
- Manually decloaking or expending the full cloak meter will immediately play a distinct sound and take around 0.3s - 1.0s to finish decloaking, depending on what value would be most suitable, you can only attack and use gadgets after this delay.
- Taking any form of damage instantly decloaks the wearer.
- Recharge time from an empty cloak meter to full takes 12 seconds.
remove the ability to join a match in progress if a cashout has been completed, so annoying to join a game just to play for 30-60 seconds then gg
Hello, I had a complaint, or rather, my suggestion is from the career pro circuit. If it's okay, could you change the mission to inflict 2000 damage from 100 meters, because I'm playing on PlayStation and I couldn't do the mission.
FIX THESE THINGS IN NEXT UPDATE
- LIGHT class has bugs on it.
°Vanishing Bomb sometimes making lights permanently invisible in the round (doesn't matter respawns).
°When light dies, Ping wheel not working. It just shows so many empty slots around the wheel. If you try this once, it'll be persist whole round.
°If throw sonar and detect enemies, those enemies will be forever detected in the round. I could see them wherever they go. These 3 must be fixed, it's harming the game.
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GOO cannisters not working properly. Half of it, below row would go under the floors or map panels. It started in S2 , revert it to S1 whatever the way it was.
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CASHBOX has bugs
°It can phase through map walls. For example there's a cashout location in cave (kinda) if you throw on side wall, it ends up on life sidewalk but doesn't bounce the wall.
°It can spawn underground. We lost a tournament because of it coz we couldn't grab it. This bug is very well known , must be fixed .
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GAME CRASHING ON XBOX.
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EMOTES. we can't emote sometimes till we die . It happens with all classes.
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CUSTOMISATION. headwear not rendering sometimes
Ik I raised couple of bug reports but no response or acknowledgement...so dropping here. These must be fixed in next patch as these are small bugs but very annoying
So ive been kinda stuck on the steal a cashout in progress 15 times quest for a while now (3 weeks) so i have been thinking if it would be possible to reroll weekly quests, or pay earnable credits to progress like 50% or smt like that. for example 3k credits to reroll or progress 50% of it done.
Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from
if ur a silver who should be plat, and the game determines you to be of that skill level putting u in plat lobbies, youll never rank up
There needs to be more damage feedback. You dont know if you are one or healthy without looking at ur hp. A red border or something to show if you just got beamed, or lightly tapped would be so nice!
What you're seeing is a bunch of fucked up environmental, "ambient" fog inside a literal tiny room and insane HDR you can't turn off.
If you see a screenshot like this, and assume it's a player using a smoke grenade then it speaks volumes to how poor visibility is in this game.
Wait, that's not smoke? NANNIIII
I always use Goo & Smoke as light so to me it looks like when I quickly drop in with double smoke to steal
@vernal tinsel I understand your frustration especially when teammates jump on it instead of you for example, but there are still 5.5 weeks left of the season, and now you can play:
- cashout which is basically 1 round of ranked
- quick cash
- ranked which is constant stealing anyways
I focused solely on stealing in unranked modes when doing the challenge. I don't personally care about K/D in a game like this, so even if it takes me x amount of attempts I'm always going for challenges.
Rerolling/Boosting these challenges is against the point of what the circuit represents. It's supposed to get harder otherwise what's the point in them.
The only thing I don't get is why people get different challenges which makes it unfair.
its a season long challenge with over a month left to complete. Slow your roll
Excuse me why havenāt you added emoting in the lobby, I think this would be nice to addition to the game, please let us emote in the lobby so we can see what are friends are up to while they havenāt readied up
First match after taking a break for a week and a cheater 2nd round, good game keep it up š
What's the point in it being comp if you don't even get people in a similar division to you
So is this melee bug where it aims on its own ever going to get fixed?
FOR REAL. It's such an unnecessary weapon I've had someone use the sniper and goo grenades on $Y$horizon quite literally stand ontop of the skyscrapers out of range of any gadget like pyros to destroy the goo easily and just snipe people, not kill them but just grief, and even if you knocked them down and killed them they'd just go back up. On skyway stadium especially power shift there's always at least 1 sniper on the black building off the side of the map just sniping people all round, I don't understand how this is an enjoyable playstyle as your literally not even participating in the game or helping your team win and whenever you get close to you they run until your too far away or have to reload your gun and then they choose to fight you. And they win because im in a reload. I've even had an instance where 3 lights where doing the same thing and only shooting the same target at one time so even as a heavy you may as well of been playing light because they killed you as quickly anyways. actually comment anyone that plays close range with a sniper because they are actually GOOD and I'm not mad because it takes skill to outgun someone when they could kill you in the time it takes to load another bullet into the chamber. I personally think that the game would be 1000x better without it and while i do use it time to time I definitely can't say that I'd miss it. And if they don't want to remove it make it projectile not hitscan as it would force plays to play at a closer range than on the other side of the map
I would love to see that you're adding a short time ban (like 15 minutes) if somebody is leaving tha game before it ends. In literately every second casual round there are people leaving the lobbies when something went not ideal. If you're adding this, maybe add a reconnect function for 2 minutes before receiving the time ban.
I would like to view teammate loadouts outside of the short time that you currently can. If I am dead I should be able to check it, idk about cooldown time though
I play grapple sniper with goo smoke glitch/Pyro and I'm a close-medium range player. I'm also among the highest obj and support scores with constant revives and steals in ranked, albeit I play with 1 friend. The only downside being a light is health.
Calling for a removal of the Sniper is a bit extreme IMO. I feel not many people know how to play light effectively nevermind sniper effectively.
Personally I believe it's due to all those snipers in Powershift giving us good snipers a bad name. Don't lump us all in the same category!
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It's a great weapon for me coming from cod & Apex and fun to use personally. Very satisfying HS!
Also @pearl hawk people leaving in casual modes is fine. They get replaced pretty fast. Especially when some people play casual until there friends come on to play ranked and insta leave. It's fine.
However, people leaving in ranked is the problem.
From what I can see, the problem with the balancing and the feedback is based on 2 things.
First of all, the feedback in here has no context. The Devs do not have any information about the person, that writes the feedback. Like: What Rank is the person, what is their K/D, what class does the person main and so on and so forth.
The other Thing is more fundamental, in that a lot of the things they added to the game are almost, if not completely, impossible to balance. Look at the flamethrower for example: The flamethrower, as a weapon, is extremely easy to use, just aim in the general direction of your enemy and watch them die, no precision gunplay needed what so ever. Now how do you balance this? If the damage is relatively high, it is going to be a skill-gap-crusher and low-elo dominator, if the damage is low, it bekomes useless. A lot of Weapons and especially gadgets have this problem as the entire Risk-Reward system of this game is not balanced and now they can not really take that back anymore, as the most realistic way of solving this would be to remove these loadout options all together.
does FSR 3 Frame Gen work for The Finals? I saw DLSS 3 improve the fps to a huge margin but unfortunately its restricted only to the 40 series
@worn sigil If the player replacement is working fine I'm with you. But idk at some point of the match the players are often not replaced and you have to play the end of the match alone. I'm just fine if the time ban would come for players who are leaving every second match if that matches are not working for them.
i would love if while in que for a match, i could go into a practice match and have play while i wait
So is this melee bug where it aims on its own ever going to get fixed?
With the medium class' average DPS being more and more realized, other medium guns other than FCAR needs a buff. Starting with the AKM of all guns, since it it one of the first medium guns to ever come out.
AKM I believe only needs one more damage per bullet buff, by 1. Early on in the betas it was a long range weapon that people used to beam with, then in Season 1 it was more of a medium-range weapon, though in the right hands people can shoot long range. Even with the changes to the AKM in Season 2, I found good success in shooting and even killing at long range. It needs to have that versatility like it did back in the betas.
The game is so unstable, it crashes atleast once a day, I saw everyone disconnected and wondering why, when it comes to me, I knew it's not our problem.
I climbed to diamond then never play rank again, cheaters every single game
Please fix your game before adding more skins, that won't help you make money
Update - Game crash count (today) : 2
Fair enough, let's hope they have a workaround in the next big update
Add Icons for Void Deaths or the infinity symbol
Fishnets skin
This games dead - youve changed it too much, roll back to first release or watch ur numbers plummet - its not a fun game all round anymore, there is various caveats, that youve caused, ruining the motivation to wait to find a decent match.
Ignore that most people left during season 1 because the balancing was atrocious
How is the anticheat not catchin up on this???? @subtle solar You have no excuses embark, if you had an active team monitoring the situation this guy would be instantly banned
Reduce grappling hook cooldown by 1 second pretty please.
in anycase, ppl are leaving again, it's still an issue. Maybe class limiting is the way to go idk
Make the game $15 so cheaters canāt just make a new account immediately. Or IP ban them
If EMBARK would just put half as much afford in the Anti-Cheat this Game would rock.
Forcing people in stacks to play classes they donāt want to play is only just going to cause more people to leave
Agreed
PLEASE raise APS cooldown, it is impossible to counter on Power Shift
team A that opened the vault, put it in and defended it for ~1:50: gets around 3.000 + a little extra for kills
team B that stole it last second (be it 3rd party, shield+heal brute force or just winning once after loosing multiple times): 11.000 (at least)
team A had most of the effort and gets not even a 3rd of what the other team gets
most of a match is pointless since the cashouts are so rewarding
and the few seconds before the timer is up are incredibly punishing to those who have put in most of the effort
I think class limits should be on power shift, it is incredibly hard to take over the platform when it has 3 ups turrets 3 sentry turrets, and 2 heavies with shields guarding the platform Luke their life depends on it. Even if you try to fight fire with fire they can't be stopped this is extremely difficult to counter and makes these games horrible to play especially since I don't leave because it really annoys me when I'm playing a match and all of a sudden it's just me and my duo against a 5 stack on the platform. Would like a power shift rework in general that includes weapon restrictions, platform limitations ect I really enjoyed bunny bash for thus reason as it forced players to work with weapons they weren't used to and were overpowered and actually led to diverce and unique game play, maybe they should add a permanent game mode called POWER SHIFT CNS TAKEOVER or something a bit more catchy but every week a random generator decides 2 weapons 6 gadgets and 1 ability from each class that can be used. This especially for casual players I believe could be a great relief to the torcher thay is regular powershift @floral prairie (my duo as stated earlier) has some opinions on this game mode to that I believe would be great additions too
please please please fix the getting stuck in goo bug on power shift
sometimes when youāre on the platform and thereās goo, you just get⦠sucked into itā¦?! I donāt know why!!
Please add the number of ping and packet loss
Day 31 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.
Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?
Each and every one of mediums other guns are performing fine. Look at heavy, where less than half of their roster is viable, letās buff some of their guns instead.
@supple nova works with me. I love the Lewis but Iām sick of it being like, my only option if I donāt like the SA12
Buff something other than Lewis gun so I don't see it literally everywhere
AKM suffers from having a higher TTK than the likes of the Lewis Gun and even the M60. That's not a good sign, especially considering that medium especially has a lower health pool.
Its fine balance wise exept for the stun gun. I think you should still be able to use your stuff.
When the platform moves around corners or changes direction, you'll get stuck, just like moving platforms in quick cash or ranked.
That's a defensive strat. Annoying yes but all you need to do is shoot it or get someone else too!
Can we not have the xp meta for this long i want to play something else
Cant wait for even more of the unique identity The Finals has to be ripped out of the game next week.
they def need to add some kinda system to evaluate individual performance in ranked matches since the matchmaking is so horrible. i went 10-2 as a medium with 4k support score while both my teammates had just one kill and less than 1k support
This is not just in powershift tho
jumping before dash play the effect but dosn't dash me
A potential solution for the HUD "issue" (i.e., the GIANT SYMBOLS obstructing everyone's view):
If you haven't, maybe run an internal playtest where you simply make each HUD symbol roughly the size of the thing they are meant to represent and attached to the object. For example, make the little circle above a teammate's statue proportional to the size of the statue. If you're in the same room as the statue or within, say, 20m, the symbol will be plenty big. At a distance, you won't be able to see the clock thing on the statue, but if most players are like me, they only ever look to the lower left to see how long teammates have left to respawn. Anyway, same idea for the cashout, with the difference that there should be a separate cashout clock up near the game timer for when you are still far away from the cashout. I assume every player is already used to looking up at the top of the screen to check time-related things. Again, not specifically the number of seconds remaining on the cash out, just the little disc timer thing. Other than that, the same principle as with the statue. The cashout symbol is simply proportional to the size of the cashout, so when you're far away, and the cashout would appear far away, the symbol will be small on the HUD, and the opposite will occur as you get closer. I have no idea if this would work, but it certainly seems like something with the virtue of being relatively easy to implement. I don't see how it would be different from seeing tracking-darted players moving across the map, and quite possibly easier to do. I foresee other benefits, as well, but that's the general idea.
defib shouldnt have I-frames
pls ban sniper in ranked , gold players are just pfsh+++ with that , same for big melee tank
Fix your fucking cheater problem. There is no goddamn reason you shouldn't be autobanning players with 100% hitrate from 100m out. I don't care if 1 in 100000 legit players gets caught up in it, it's so unrealistic it should never be allowed to happen.
The fact these players are allowed to exist long enough to get to diamond is fucking embarrassing.
make better report system
make better ranking system...
Since we don't have a good group-up system yet we can say:
"since the finals is a team based game we think its a good idea for you to squad up! This is why we encourage to come on over to our discord and chat in our LFG chat so you and your new friends can dominate the arena"
Lil free placeholder idea for y'all.
APS turrets should not destroy an unlimited amount of projectiles.
i do think aps turrets should lost hp when blocking projeticles
Crosshair
the most basic mechanic in any fps game, so basic its not even worthy of being called a mechanic. A Fucking png on the screen made with only soul perpus to be a marker of where the bullet will land, failed itself.
give us static crosshair
Yes, I know, I shouldn't be playing around with the cash vaults, but is it really necessary for it to go all the way back to where it started when I "accidentally" throw it off the map?
I wish that we could have a better shop system
Please add mouse and keyboard support back to console as The Finals is very difficult to play on controller; I miss being able to play it before.
There a bug where you stop using mesh shield and If you swing with hammer there no animation but it still attacks
Day 23 of asking Embark for medieval bundles š
need a crosshair im begging you
This also makes those clutch moments when you pull it off being a losing team for the major part of the game the best. It's a great system, IMO. it makes it more stimulating, and gives the loosing party the feeling that "we can still do this". It also forces the top dogs to keep fighting or they might lose everything. Honestly I think what you want is to change exactly what makes the game so great.
@grizzled canopy I understand the passion, but bruh, we're in the middle of a freaking sci-fi retrowave themed season, don't you think it would be logical for them to think of a medieval one in the future ? Can't you just wait your turn ?
I think lewis and m60 need a lil less recoil, not having a viable source of med-large range gun on heavy besides the rpg makes it kinda hard to use
Honestly do a better job of explaining things to people they are so ignorant. I still to this day get grenade launcher heavy pelting my aps. Like dude it is doing nothing at all why are you still trying?
I'd like to talk about dying to luck in this game because it's happened so many times, I recently had an encounter with a sniper from medium rage where they werent scoping in and managed to headshot insta kill me idk why the bloom on the sniper is so small when not ads a sniper shouldn't be able to medium-long range without ads like that, not not even sure he could properly see me either and I was invisible and shouldn't of been that easy too see (this was before the nerf) not too mention he was also stunned.
The flame thrower too like holy guacamole why am I as a light unable to outrun a heavy with a flame thrower and why does it take .00000005 seconds of flame on my light build to deal 120 damage and the rest is taken from me now being on fire, I think they could balance this gun by making it a gas gun, same concept but the gas doesn't linger like grenades and I can't be taking damage from a gun that is no longer shooting at me because once outside of the gas area you stop taking damage.
Also why does light have so many weapons compare to medium and heavy, we need more versatility on heavy especially I want a melee weapon that isn't the hammer give us something fun like spears that deal strong damage when thrown and medium damage when poking/prodding it would be so sick to be able to throw spears at enemy players (make sure it takes like 1.5-2.5 seconds after throwing to retrieve a new spear, you can have unlimited as its a video game of a video game) and medium needs an smg of sorts, not as powerfull as the xp or the m11 but something to change up the akm, fcar meta in the game right now.
AND PLEASE GIVE US A TDM GAME MODE THIS GAME DESPERATLY NEEDS IT. I cannot tell you how many times my team would've won games because we out performed every other person in the match and only lost due to a 30 second team respawn. Or the cashout being stolen literally last minute after my team defending it almost the entire time.
LET THE KS23 CRIT
This might be a dumb idea but I do my care. What if the gas grenadeās gas was the snake color of the camo you unlock for it.
srsly just make it last like 1 or even 0.5 seconds longer, just a bit pls bro (sry apparently i still had it set to reply, ignore it)
even if its 5 projectiles to break, someone using GL still wont be able to win that fight. even with 3 projectiles you'll die before aps runs out. then what if 2 ppl have aps.
no way to balance it, but i think its ok to have a direct counter cos grenade launchers are mega strong.
when i use cl40 i always call out "shoot their aps" to my team and it doesnt seem like too much of a problem.
Saying it has āthe highest TTKā is pretty deceptive wording when itās still bagging even heavies under two seconds. Sure itās the āworstā by those numbers but thereās more to a gun than how fast it kills people. Itās an efficient Beamer, a really good suppression option, large magazine, controllable, reloads relatively fast considering its large mag, and its damage output is still really good in spite of all that
AK is the perfect all-rounder without being blatantly overpowered like the FCAR is. In either case, medium is the last class that needs a buff right now. Over half of heavies kit is performing so inadequately thereās about, two total builds that work and the rest donāt, and lights been struggling to get into the meta since launch, and we know full well itās still on the chopping block.
Also I just did the math, itās the highest TTK by 0.08 seconds (math is hard). A completely inconsequential difference. Lewis is a little less than a tenth of a second faster to kill, and we all know how good Lewis is at killing shit.
At least you can still call AKM good. Look at weapons like the MGL, the Flamer, and tell me theyāre good enough guns on their own.
gadget are made to give the user/team advantage, like the frag giving you advantage with it damage, the aps help the user with perventing damage. it also need the handle the barage of utility a team can throw at them so yeah i don't think its that bad
This is where it gets complicated.
AK is by no means a bad gun. It's the most balanced gun thus far, but just pales in comparison to all the other guns out there when it comes to pure effectiveness. I've spoken to too many top players and content creators who I follow that criticize the gun for its major flaws, and in spite of advantages such as good beaming, large magazine, fire rate and potential damage, falters in the most significant category of them all: TTK. You have to be able to secure fights and kills to lock down or unlock objectives, and not lose to Lewis Gun, FCAR, repeater, and M60 on average.
AK is a perfect weapon to pair up with healing beam, but that's mostly what the gun is about. I've been an AK main for a year and have been loyal to the gun ever since. In the betas it was most dominant especially with its accessibility and easiest-to-control recoil back then, until the recoil got changed, but with the rise of FCAR and even repeater, medium is shifting to more than just support. It's capable of more DPS. AK needs a buff, badly.
Put that with the sheer health of the medium to heavy, and it's not a fair fight unless you play it smart. Aiming ability won't be enough to secure those fights you desperately need.
Experimental Mode - Inside Out: All Light gadget goes to Medium, all M-Gadgets goes to Heavy and all H-Gadgets goes to Light?
So when are we going to do something about the doors and getting stuck in them?
Why did I have the most damage and support score in my game with a positive KD just to get 2 down arrows because my teamate went 0/9 with 500 combat score and 50 support
one time i got stuck and could shoot thru the door
idk if they could see or hit me cuz i pressed to open right away, but was wonky
Make it so when a teammate leaves match, they can rejoin eventually. Had so many teammates have internet go out and not being able to rejoin back
now the game doesn't just crash and logs me out
naahhhh
now it crashes and freezes my whole PC
I really wish there wasn't a level cap of 50, I love being able to track my progress in games and see how far i can get.
Requesting some optimization. Game feels really laggy and the rubberbanding is very high at times, started happening a few patches ago
šÆ Yes to that one, and it was the case before if I remember correctly, dunno why it changed
@smoky gust I get it. For me the problem is the matchmaking in the broad sense. Very hard to find fun teams where you can have a good time even losing the match, and without solid reasons to play QP modes you're stuck with a very sweaty, very unreliable and frustrating competitive.
@wintry storm They did it during one of the betas, and the system was quickly changed back to full attribution because players thought it wasn't working out.
This also makes those clutch moments when you pull it off being a losing team for the major part of the game the best.
you're not wrong
but i do see some issues with that
i cant count how often i lost the first 10k cashout, then almost got to catch up by getting the next 15k one, just to have the winner of the first one snatch it again, leading to an even bigger 25k lead
it makes the rolling team roll even harder
"we can still do this"
some of the time, no matter what you do, at the end of a game, the 44k cashout can make all efforts obsolete
the team that won until that point gets all their efforts nullified, by messing up once right at the end
and sometimes even winning under such circumstances as a loosing team can suck, since that win doesn't really feel deserved
its not really just about the end result, but also what it took to get there
you've been screwed over multiple times despite playing good and need something crazy like this to get back what you should have had to begin with (but was, sometimes unfairly) taken from you
putting in effort is punished by forcing even more effort, which may not even be rewarded at all
what you want is to change exactly what makes the game so great.
to be honest, I'm kinda off of that train
i used to want it changed
but i know some people like it this way
now i just want a place to exist where i can play this awesome game without burning out
but currently i can only subject myself to the risk of getting nothing for my efforts
or play power shift which plays very differently and has its own slew of problems
we could add something like suburbination from pvz
it plays more closely to cashout but still reward all efforts made similar to power shift
it would honestly be a godsend for me
i do think the cashout should hav steps
like split the earnings in sections of time so you still get a bit of money from getting the box and cashing in and who got stole the cash get his clutch but you dont get insta eliminated from the match
Day 5 of asking Embark to add prop hunt š
all heavy weapons should deal extra damage to buildings like the ks-33
also give heavy two c4s again or make it easier to destroy buildings with only one
and add more ways to destroy things
SBBM isā¦ā¦not working (polite one) ! How can you be gold 3 vs diamond 1ā¦ā¦
Add charger sounds (L4D2) to Charge ānā Slam please
STOP HACKERS.
Why??? It has been like this the last weeks, there's a gold player in almost every match, silvers and sometimes there literally bronze players on my team... Since I reached Diamond 4 the game started giving me horrible teammates (if there are teammates cuz sometimes the match just starts with only 2 players on my team)
Gold never should be in a match against diamonds... im not even gonna talk about bronze being there...
@gleaming tideiI thought it was something similar, but then why is there an full Diamond team? obviously my team with a gold 3 and a bronze doesnt have close to a similar good stats to a 3 D team
i should probably expand on that last part
in suburbination, there are 3 capture zones (for us it could be cashouts) spread around the map
they start of neutral and, once captured, produce points (in our case money) for the owners
an enemy can then neutralize the enemies point and capture it for their team
there is no way to loose points
first to x points wins
it would play a bit similar to cashout, since there is a stationary point you can defend, as well as being able to and rewarded for manipulating its surroundings
(which power shift doesn't do as much)
but you still get rewarded for everything you do
be it a single point captured for 20 seconds, or even just death match, since you're occupying one of the enemies
with our 5v5 format it could even create interesting dynamics, depending on how people spread out to capture/defend
with various group sizes of different classes set on causing trouble, attacking and defending for their team,
and not only that, every class should be viable because it allows for both fast paced gameplay with incentive for speed as well as slow defensive play
it combines what makes the finals so fun and unique while solving some of the issues the other modes have, it think we should give it a try
thoughts?
Give Guardian Turret an ammunition limit of 100 bullets then it has to reload for a few seconds or something. Unlimited magazine makes no sense.
arent these guys queing together as a duo?
Because the system tries to average out each team to have a 1.0kda ratio for the most part so that all teams are fair in terms of damage output. They could be duo's or Trio's as well.
But all in all, It is NOT an anomaly to see lower ranked players in higher ranked lobbies in ANY sbmm competitive games.
CS ā
League ā
Valorant ā
Apex (Rarely) ā
StarCraft ā
Dota ā
Please react to this message for the devs to see ā
Add global chat
Dm message to added friends
Open voice chat after death
Return the ranking points!
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
We can't react, and also HELLLL NOOOOOOO to your first 3 points. I need 0 of that toxic stuff in my game.
Can an enemy grenade indicator be added and/or some sort of sound so that you know you're standing on a grenade and are about to be insta-gibbed. It's really not fun being blown up with something so invisible and powerful.
Would there be the possibility of a referral system? Like maybe something to reward players for convincing someone to come play the finals? It could possibly operate how start citizen does it where when you purchase the game you can input a referral code from someone and you both get a small amount of currency. Obviously the finals would need to adress the possibility of people farming currency by making new accounts but maybe it could be a system where both players are given a small award upon the first purchase of multibucks. The main idea tho would be incentive to go out and convince players to come try out the game
First ever useful message from this guy and I fully support the idea
Could use a mid season Battle Pass.
3 games with disconnects where I still lose elo haha!
Good Ideia.
I feel like the famas shouldve gotten like a 2x scope and made it more suitable for longer ranges
+1 TO this. It would really help introduce more players.
Give content creators an incentive to consistently stream and introduce others to this game.
Give players who've completed content a CONSTANT I.V DRIP of content to do. (More levels, etc)
Make introducing players a community task as much as it is a developer task. There are people who love this game and would go out of their way just to see it succeed.
"open voice chat after death" nothing could go wrong there š
can my gold 4 team pls not play against full diamond lobbies. thanks. I`d rather have longer ques
They should change the challenge deal 4000 damage at 100 meters or more by 4000 damage at 60 meters or more. That will be less complicated. š¤
In the waiting lobby, why am I the only contestant doing a cool entry animation with my wepon
I'm on a team. Let me see them walk in too
why not we have more time to reconnect to the ongoing games? it's about 2 mins right? at the time i was be able to open up the (for some whatever crash reason), already passes 4-5 mins... don't know what to say honestly (not to mention wrong timeout punishments if you happen to get one)
These options are not toxic, but some players are, even without it, they will always remain toxic.
I don't think we should rule out something that will further expand the game's interaction because of some shitty players.
āI will reinforce:
Add global chat
Dm message to added friends
Open voice chat after death
Return the ranking points!
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
game crushes when window is not focused and loading next round, plz fix this
Blocking Players is just useless. I keep on getting same players as my teammates in ranked, no matter how many times I blocked tyem
make it so it punishes players for leaving mid match š£ļø like a delay to start the next match
Agreed lmfaooo
add more fcar skins please š¦
please remove the melee auto lockon
I agree with these. Anyone saying they donāt want to hear the occasional toxic person can just turn off voice chat themselves. The world doesnāt revolve around them.
best game feedback: remove the sniper, it doesn't belong in the finals.
Can the rate of fire on the V9S silenced pistol be looked at? Just been obliterated by a light insta-killing people with it as it was firing so fast
PLEASE NERF THE FLAMETHROWER
Exactly! Let's try to reinforce this for the devs to see!
I hope they really pay attention to this, it makes the game more alive and connects the community more.
āI will reinforce:
Add global chat
Dm message to added friends
Open voice chat after death
Return the ranking points!
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
anyone has this build request failed issue?
the zipline should have an alt-fire which makes your zip placement have a tighter/stricter placement
I agree
Guess where is the problem Embark ^^
The "skill based" matchmaking? (just one rank down and up from yours)
In addition, they should also fix the nicknames, very strange in general with a bot name
Damn yall getting yall ass wooped
When is this anti cheat coming
Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)
What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.
You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost Ć· items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.
It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```
Smaller maps for 3v3/2v2v2 game mode could be nice, such as inside an airport terminal/hotel/grocery store or similar location
Change ranked to where when someone leaves the remainder of the team isn't penalized. Solo queue has a problem with people crashing out at the start of a match.
Hi, recently i'm got ranked game - and i'm feel game needs a change how Melee Weapons interact with the Shields (any), specifically the hits from it should not be absorbed & in the end be passed through. Strikethrough false information, sorry!
Second topic which i'm think also painful: Aim assist on Melee Weapons for Mouse Players. Can be it removed? It may mess up a hits when you in these sticky situations when player trying block damage directed at teammate, but also the game plays against melee user, helps the enemy in this case which also not good in my honest opinion.
Specifically in this case game did not messed with aim, not triggered - but this was good chance for it.
I'm play a lot on Dagger as Light class, strictly in Ranked (regular modes only for warmup), currently at Platinum 2 - and after last event had enough with weirdness of some gameplay decisions which cost a enough.
Planned attach a Clip, but it is restricted for the channel or i'm not enough talk here. So clip was posted on Reddit from u/ShopCatNotAnewsed at official community instead.
It could have been clear backstab and a victory 
In all the game Modes it gets Heated Quick and wether or not your a good teammate comes into question if you able to support, defend, or Assist to Some Successful Degree these 3 factors alone Typically depend on your team and normally your team will be successful using these 3 factors.
It takes over 12 minutes to get into a Rink match.
I love playing fuckin Vegas for the last 8/9 tournaments I've played, and why do I go down 3 arrows for losing in the third round but other times I only go down 1 arrow.
No, 2 mins
Perhaps this has been asked. Me and friends normally play and stream every Friday and do customs the diffculty we have is that we can't swap or assign teams, so far the only way we've been able to is to disconnect everyone and them try and join in different orders. Any chance there is an update for this? We are loving the game well and truly š
Lol average KDA is a horrific metric to use for matchmaking. Actually has such a low correlation with skill. If this is actually has this works, then here is my feedback for the devs: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/18-05-introduction-to-probability-and-statistics-spring-2022/
just finished a game with a cheater where his name was "nothackingEAC" have screenshots
^^^ 42k killing people instantly, should be very simple to detect and ban someone killing people every second with one shot from across the map. Get it together.
Sometimes i cant use the heal beam does this happen to anyone else during the game?
why do i lose more rank than my teammates when my teammates are higher ranked, wouldnt it make more sense for the higher ranked players to lose more since they are more expected to have won that match???
Mines start working after I coined
Nerf mediums for real. Sick of playing "The Mediums" with 6-8 of them every lobby
These options are not toxic, but some players are, even without it, they will always remain toxic.
I don't think we should rule out something that will further expand the game's interaction because of some shitty players.
āI will reinforce:
Add global chat
Dm message to added friends
Return the ranking points!
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
dealing damage at a range greater than 100m is a lot of luck hitting with mines or playing light sniper. this challenge sucks
Anyone else thinks APS should have like a 6-8 grenade limit before being removed?
Please make the death UI Blue. Purple is so irritating as it is an enemy team color. Simple quality of life improvement.
Thoughts on taking the penalty out of leaving a ranked game if your teammates already left?
Its getting annoying to deal with leavers and be stuck there left to be penalized from randoms leaving after a few deaths
Yea like a battery life or something
@turbid mesa. There are already very specific and easy ways to get rid of APSs, they are probably being overlooked because most player still think of the finals as another classic FPS and can't think outside of the box.
What you suggest would be WAY too much of a nerf, 6-8 grenades for 3 players ? Imagine 3 players having grenade launchers/ grenades ( the very thing it is supposed to protect from), it would die in less than a second.
Please implement some type of system where you rank up off of personal performance to help out solo q players sick of doing well to have a gold and silver who get 1 kill and push every cash out
Yes, this is very needed. So many times I have gotten the most kills and combat score on the entire server, yet my team sucks and then I rank down. That's absurd.
@violet wing
easy ways to get rid of APSs
not really easy
and its not just about if you can get rid of it, its also what an effect it has until its gone
(see replied message)
What you suggest would be WAY too much of a nerf, 6-8 grenades for 3 players ? Imagine 3 players having grenade launchers/ grenades ( the very thing it is supposed to protect from), it would die in less than a second.
ever thought that maybe 1 gadget from a single player isn't supposed to make an entire team useless?
talk about unbalanced, winning 1v3s at the push of a button
rpg was nerfed so that lights don't get cheesed constantly and actually get to play the game
so why should it be ok for aps to do the same thing to projectile weapons?
Make it so that the LE demon face wear and similar cosmetic items can be equipped and wore under headwear like bucket hat and such
I think something that would be extremely healthy for the game is an honor system and a play of the game replay system. POTG cam would be insanely hype for this game, and maybe even do a thing where you can save them locally
@mental dagger @hybrid cliff
That's to stop people waiting in a corner and then shoot the last bullet into people stealing your teammates kills to big up themselves.
It's a team game, you either go up together or down together! šæ
you can shoot it, you can disable it, you can explode it with arena items, you can change it into something else, you can even grenade it if you know what you're doing. The game SHOULD NOT be lowered down to the level of its lowest/less imaginative players just to make everyone able to do what they want, the way they want, all the time.
@timber dove I was #8 in the power shift event, that's when i had to find ways to get rid of APS. I learned a few tricks and they didn't bother me anymore, so you can probably do it as well.
@turbid mesa I'm sorry but I still can't relate to your problem. IMO in the finals the counter for whatever the enemy team has against you always as to be primarily your brain.
@smoky gust Again, for me it's easy, never have any problem with APSs because I can adapt. But seeing that you consider using GRENADE LAUNCHERS against it as "shooting it", I'm thinking you might not be so adaptable. and chip damage ? come on... half of an AKM, M11 or Lewis in and it's down... Try harder you might discover that it's not that hard.
Fix the ranking system, I've been playing non stop trying to rank up to platinum 3 but even when I've won 3 tournaments in a row I still don't rank up those arrows don't mean shit and I don't know how many tournaments I have to win so I can finally rank up
I think a replay mode like Fortniteās would be pretty cool
Nah that's cap, APS turrets actually ruin Power Shift and the fact that they (and turret) go on CD when you place them instead of destroyed is even dumber
I think it“s way less imaginative to just place down a gadget that completely inhibits 2 weapons from functioning and stopping dozen gadgets, but maybe that“s just me. It“s gg if barricade or shields are in proximity as well, say goodbye to any utiliy even landing close to the damn thing to pop it. @smoky gust "But seeing that you consider using GRENADE LAUNCHERS against it as "shooting it", I'm thinking you might not be so adaptable." Ahhh yes let me adapt in ranked and use a fcar or lewis instead of grenade launcher oh wait I can“t switch shit mid tournament gg.
you can shoot it
Not with cl-40 and mgl32
You can only go for chip damage, which pretty much just looses you the fight (as explained in the replied post)
you can disable it
You mean with glitch mines?
Let me repeat that
You want me to run up to someone thats shooting me, lob a mine at them, shoot it and then start shooting back at them?
Pretty self explanatory why that doesnt work
you can obstruct it
What do you mean by that?
you can explode it with arena items
No actually, propane leaves it at ~5 hp, even with a perfect hit
you can change it into something else
If i swapped my items every time someone told me to use something as a counter, i would never be able to use something i find fun
It makes the game stale and boring
And data reshaper is pretty situational, so i have to handicap myself just to not be useless
you can grenade it
Again, by the time its gone, you may already be dead
Even if youre not, you just wasted half your ammo and are likely injured
The game SHOULD NOT be lowered down to the level of its lowest (...)
Is it that much of an issue to you that i want to be able to play the game and use the options it offers?
And like, is it any better to throw the aps down and to sit on it to win fights against projectile weapons for free?
Not very imaginative
I'd more raise the point that APS is only busted and annoying in powershift, and against projectile weapons. Power shift isn't really a big part of the game, and nerfing it because it's very strong there would fuck everything up. (kind of like with light sniper, which is pretty balanced when almost every fight you have is inside a building.
If they were to make it so it doesn't deny grenade launcher shots, it'd probably be perfectly good. They could make it immune to the explosion damage from those launchers specifically, so they can't just spam explosives into it.
additionally, to be fair, medium impact explosive is absolutely horrid, and the spamming of it can shut down a powershift platform or cashout much easier than an APS turret. In fact I think the only reason it's not getting dragged as hard as sniper is BECAUSE of the APS turret being in the game.
It can two-shot light classes with the AOE and it sucks. Personally, when I use it, I kill light players I literally didn't see, and overall it's just annoying and oppressive
They should add a new grenade like an ice bomb that slows people down š
Day 3 of recommending penalties for back to back leavers
I get your point completely but if you get allot of combat support and or obj I just think it should include this in rank progress in a small way
Just left practice range and recived a penalty for leaving a ranked game, how is this even possible
LF1 Plat+ Med or heavy Dm
True, but the only games that kinda thing works with is Battle Royales IMO
+1
@turbid mesa
" Ahhh yes let me adapt in ranked and use a fcar or lewis instead of grenade launcher oh wait I can“t switch shit mid tournament gg."
Lol, see, that's exactly what I mean right there: for you, in this game, "adapting" means switching main weapons ? I'm sorry dude, but come on, you clearly lack imagination. Use your brain. And other means than just your weapon dammit, it's not CoD.
@boreal fulcrum Ice tomb grenade sounds cool, I'm in.
Not really a fan of slows
What about slippery mechanics instead?
Pushing cashouts around on an icy floor and using it on yourself to slide down hill?
Not frustrating to enemies but still useful and interesting in its own way
@violet wing
but seeing that you consider using grenade launchers against it as "shooting it"
I litterally said that you cant
AKM, M11 or Lewis
Im talking about aps' interaction with projectile weapons and how it invalidates them
And you go "but akm doesnt have any issues"
Like...
You see the problem in that thought proccess, right?
You also cant swap items unless you died, meaning it forces a loss at least once (and not at all in ranked)
And after that youre not allowed to play the game in a way you find fun
and other means than just your weapon dammit
Like what?
Every option youve told us thus far is problematic with reasoning provided for why they dont work
Light can get melted instantly right now so i believe a light specific combat stim gadjet would be very good. It would give a boost in speed and regen aroung 40 hp very fast
this take is so bad that I went a week into the past to shit talk it
we've all heard this one 1000 times
Would it be possible to add some dirt/smear/fingerprint textures or details to glass when you get close to it?
Similar to how the billboards will transition from just displaying the texture, to having individual pixels when you get close?
From a distance it's very easy to tell that a window is solid or broken because of the tint/reflections, but as you get closer it's almost impossible to tell that you're standing in front of glass.
I see it happen ALL THE TIME where players will just run at a window for a bit before they get confused, then eventually try to mele and break it.
There was nothing wrong with the way Cloak was before the recent Nerf. All Cloak did was give the Light the drop on an OP opponent with way more HP & better weapons than a Light & in no way guaranteed a kill because once uncloaked from the 1st shot a Light still had to overcome the HP difference to get the kill. The only Problem was all the whiners complaining about it. No matter what they do the whiners will always whine about it until it is removed completely. All the Devs need to do is REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS & stop listening to the minority of whiners who think its a problem for no other reason except they dont like being killed by a Light who only has 150HP compared to their 250HP & 350HP. Cloak was visible (if u were paying attention) Cloak was audible (if u were paying attention) & u could no longer stay Cloaked when u fired a weapon & any type of damage taken auto uncloaked a Light using it. Whats funny is after Cloak got nerfed people started saying "well just use dash" but then the whiners & complainers started whining about Dash & want that Nerfed as well. So how long b4 the devs nerf Dash too??? Whiners are going to whine no matter what the Devs do so the Devs need to stop listening to the whiners & just do their thing. Too many nerfs based on whining have changed the game for the worse. Lights get weaker & weaker while M & H get stronger & stronger.
There was definitely something wrong with light and cloak ability if you donāt think so you are silly. (before nerf)
holy shit playing at this time in EU is just cheaters in EVERY game
Saturdays mean three things, cheaters, absolute 0 IQ teammates, and sweaty premades
I play light and I donāt think the nerf is earth shattering⦠you just have to be smart on how to use it⦠Iāve gotten used to it and I donāt even main light lol
People want the game to be easy for them, only. That's why they hate it so much on the start.
After one month maximum basicly all of the Community stops complaining since they go "Hey it isn't that bad".
I think the game on console should allow key board and mouse on console without third party devices. Make sense right the game is cross-play. Why donāt console already have kbm available
They might has well play some Minecraft & kill the mobs
I think the KS-23 needs more structural damage
ive been queueing for a tourney game for 27 minutes now, pls fix queue times
they do realize that the reason RPG deals a lot of self damage is so they can't just reduce light to even more of a joke than we already are, right?
Tf are these spawns embark
The cloak is still viable, dash is better for higher skill players so id suggest trying that out and mastering it. thats my honest take. i do think lights should have a weapon buff and a small double jump for better verticality. Lights are underpowered for sure but cloak isn't the reason. playing high level ranked solo with 2 light teammates is an instant loss against the other 3 teams that all run MMM or HHM.
@quaint forge@patent night@obtuse garden oh my god thank you guys, agree 100%, actual non-whining people showing some positive intakes is refreshing.
MnK support on consoles plssss
Besides these spawns being trash now when it comes to points, chat is still broken on Xbox and to top it off these lobbies are never balanced with diamonds ending up in silver games? Lol how is that fair in any way?
Heavy rpg needs to do less dmg to self, shooting a light does nothing anymore when theyre scurrying beneath you.
Press Q to charge and the light dies instantly, if you're a shield or goo gun user, you don't get to complain. That's the counterplay to RPG beyond staying far away. Heavy is brainless enough as it is.
First off, facts. It only does 140 hp. And Yodakage wdym "Brainless" Heavy is literally the defense class, probably the second most if not the most class you need to think ablut how to use
Heavy rpg is fine as it is. They scurry beneath you because it's effective and makes them harder to hit. There is no world where a heavy should be RPGing himself up his own rectum. With the cloak nerf, lights have no business using it to get close to a heavy unless they are out of position or low health, and if they are not using cloak and they get that close to you, you are not aware of your surroundings, or they got a nice flank on you while you were distracted, which is the point of most light loadouts. Additionally, like Yoda said, charge and slam counters this if you're facing this kind of strategy this commonly. Which, even if you saw it every game, shouldn't mean RPG gets a buff. Use your GUN. You fool.
I like how a heavy man running at you can do more Damage than a rocket coming at you lmfaooo
Proposed change: Change the name to The Cheaters.
Turn the 93R into a dual-wield, 6-round burst pistols with double the fire rate and mag size, in exchange for double the reload time and recoil. As of now itās just an inferior version of FAMAS and V9S not only in terms of stats, but also style.
"Fcar is balanced"
@weak swift I used it a lot and I think it's in a good place right now, if you panic or use it wrong you get punished, it gives the opportunity to L&M's a way to fight you if they get you into cqc AND gives the heavies a way to BAIT THEM INTO A GOOD GUITAR SLAM ON THE HEAD MUAHAHAHAH
Hello, easy game feedback here can we please track assists and heals? Has this already been asked @true epoch @true epoch , sorry im new here just joined
Yep this is the problem mate. People dont want to have to "counter" anything or change a loadout to counter anything or even have to use their brains & think of alternatives to counter anything or adapt their class & game play to counter anything. They just want everything Nerfed that they dont want to have to counter so its easier for them & so they can just use the load out they want to use. Nerf this nerf that is mostly all I hear in here simply because they dont like having to think or change the way they play.** REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!** It takes skill to play a Light with only 150HP & stealth was a big part of what made Light viable. @cinder ridge & whats the point of using Dash & mastering that skill like I did Cloak when they are already whining now about Dash being OP & want that Nerfed too??? How long before the Devs listen to the Whiners about Dash & nerf that too??? Im sick of spending hours & hours Learning & mastering a skill only for the Devs to rip it away with a nerf because some no skill M or H whines about it being OP when the Light class has only 150HP to begin with & is the weakest class in the game. Whats the point & wheres the fun in it? Cloak should never have been Nerfed to begin with.
please revert mesh shield my shield too 1000-1200hp shouldn't be deleted by a ak in one clip
@daring siren Thats situational, lights could just dash back and still off you @quaint forge i know, thats what i mean. An explosive does more dmg to self than it does to an enemy @violet wing guitar slam yeaah
idk bro i just dont think they ruined it like i said its still viable for its purpose you just cant crutch on it and stay invis for 90% of the match now or immediately cloak when you get confronted. think of other ways to make the class good instead of begging for a crutch back (you say whiners this whiners that but all lights have been doing for weeks is whining "bring back my easy out")just make the class better. increase guns usability, add better gadgets, ect.
Some Ideas for Private Matches: 1) enable nukes option to return to that wonderful mechanic at least in your matches
2) Making a public list of community customized matches with settings like: all 1hp, Move or die (orbital lasers always enabled), Mars Wars (low gravity always enabled), slow motion, speeded, between other dozens of possibilities, it would attract sandbox kind players and it would be so fun!
Is the ability to leave tournaments when your teammate quits removed? I've had 2 games now where someone left. It's annoying
+10 million this
NERF DEVIBS AND HEALS
Lights can still get to Heavys decently easy? It happens alot to me
Yall gotta quit it with the steal the cashout challenges, full stop. Either let the whole team count towards it or just get rid of it, 1 a day is already incredibly annoying as it's unlikely to happen in any one match, but 15 is unacceptable, just stop
Embark, for the love of god. PLEASE. STOP. QUEUING. NON-DIAMONDS. WITH. DIAMONDS.
You are legitimately braindead for this
And they instantly die, as long as you're with your team. If you're out of position, that is on you. That is where light is supposed to shine. If a light sneaks up on you while you and your team is preoccupied with a gunfight, that's the light playing well and playing smart. If a light catches you out of position, they'll have an easy time getting to you and eliminating you. If you're with your team in an open area, they will not get anywhere close to you without dying unless you are unaware of your surroundings. It's not easy for the light to get to you and eliminate you unless you're inside of a close quarters area, where any class can get close to you, and it's not easy for the light to get to you and eliminate you unless you're having an honest to god skill issue.
when is the bug for fire grenades sticking to shields gonna get fixed lol
Enable mouse and keyboard to console
asking the real questions here
fix guns that are consistently bad(throwing knives), inconsistently good(medium shotty), fix matchmaking(cheaters and connection issues), rework ranked promote and demote system, and add a text chat. everything else is in a solid place
dash is fine as is cloaked never took skill tho, the spam nerf was pointless tho tbh
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Please stop balancing things and fix server sync issues. I'm fine with everything but this lag is killing me dude.
Crashing
Rampant cheating
Laughable character / weapon balance
Atrocious matchmaking
I'm out. Fuck this trash game.
The aps turret hasn't been changed yet. Why? A single gadget is ruining powershift and invalidates a weapon from every class for no reason. It should have absolutely no effect of primaries and have a time limit or charges for powershift. This is not okay, this isn't a new issue, it's gotta get done
Yeah aps should like lose a bar of health each time it's used so it doesn't indefinitely stop utility
some brain storming ideas for later seasons
https://youtu.be/53GXhJZDOK4?feature=shared
What could Embark add that would improve THE FINALS experience 10x? Say if we had new community features, gamemodes, events and finally a fixed ranked experience, what would THE FINALS look like?
Today I'm diving deep and sharing my thoughts on what features I think THE FINALS would massively benefit on, and also respond to your comments and qu...
would be cool to have a prestige sistem, or a level badge sistem like old overwatch 1
Mini gun, really? Everyone complains about the turret last thing we need is teams of mini guns.
yea, people coming after dash makes my blood boil.
they tell light class to "not take fair fights" and "utilize your superior mobility"
then when lights get good enough at using their tools to do that, they whine about how it feels unfair and they can't hit them because they're moving too much.
all the while most of their weapons and abilities shred you if you slip up even once. It sucks ass.
EDIT: it's just a few people now, but trust me, once invis gets nerfed, it'll probably be the next target
Rank system is asssssssss
Are people complaining about dash now??? Please tell me that's true
Has Embark considered Employing AI-anticheat like Anybrain into the game? I feel like it would benefit greatly from the hacker problem
are devs going to fix the healing beam bug or are they going to wait their game to die to do so?
Lag is killing me today. I never had lag in this game before today. It's annoying AF.
Yeah mate I follow this thread alot & after Cloak got nerfed I started seeing people start whining about Dash being too OP because people abandoned Cloak & started using Dash instead so the whiners just keep on whining no matter what. They wont be happy until the 150HP glass cannon is utterly useless or removed from the game because they find it offensive & a blow to their ego when a little ole light with 150HP & Cloak gets the drop on them because they are out of position & away from their team. Its utter BS that they nerfed Cloak. Cloak was never a sure kill on a M or H because once u fired the 1st shot u were uncloaked & it was still 150HP vs 250 or 350HP & M & H have better weapons even...anyone whining about Lights being OP in any way has a serious skill issue & should uninstall the game & go play minecraft. I also play as a Heavy & had no issue dealing with the mosquito buzzing lights using Cloak or Dash cos in a 1v1 I smash lights all day long as a Heavy! REVERT CLOAK BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS!!! & take DEFIBS off M & give them to Lights as a Team utility!
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REVERT CLOAK AND BRING BACK CASUAL TOURNAMENTS
Lol you want lights to have defib. Yea you are crazy. The abilities the light has is game changing for the user medium and heavy are team based. Keep smoking that crack you are smoking. Lights cloak was abused, thatās why it was nerfed. Turrets, aps, even heavy abilities can be countered but the abused cloak and taz was op.
Cloak is countered by using your eyes and ears. Itās the only special that is an active detriment to use at times
Day 45 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.
- 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
- 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
- Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
- bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
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- significant damage to structures and players
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- gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
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- high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
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- its a goddamn minigun
- - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
- - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no āpocket minigunā strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
- - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
no lmao
hey whats ur dealer number bc the shit i have aint that good
just, hipfire adequately if you get stunned?
if you're a melee user, I understand the issue, getting stunned leaves you with literally no recourse, but if you're a heavy or medium with a gun, genuinely just a skill issue at that point.
light having defib wouldn't be as busted as medium having it, especially in its current state. Healbeam just completely removes the half health penalty downside, and is by far the best thing you can run on medium.
If light had Defib, not only would defib saves be easier to shut down, you'd have to coordinate with your medium if you want to avoid the downside of half health. Requiring you to have two full teammates alive to serve the function one medium with heal can right now.
Recon was much the same. Your team lost nothing from one of your mediums running it (because you really only NEED one healbeam), and medium lost nothing from running it themselves (since you can't self heal with healing beam)
compare that with light, where you lean so heavily on your movement abilities or invis to even just survive. Putting recon on light would force your team to run a light class that's nearly completely ineffective in combat. (even moreso than usual)
It's not a coincidence that all the wallhack capabilities were put on light after the recon removal, and no-one's complained about them since. They've always belonged there
Add a save replay system or at minimum a recent games system showing performance, scoreboard, placement etc.
Hitbox on defib bodies is a ridiculous concept
Yup this is how the player base is moving. I personally ensured my group of friends all shifted to new competitive games. Too many of us were refusing to play to this.
remove swords if youre gonna make them as shit as they are fuck my life
the voice chat is not working, can you guys fix it asap
This game would have been better if medium wasnāt in it
Why must you have 6 people in a private match, what if people want to 1v1 or learn the maps.
Decided to try this game again after a long break. First ranked match had a player drop out at start of the match and lost. Second match solo-queued against some obvious 3-stacks. I just dont know man. I just feel so beat up by this game's matchmaking. Its a shame because the actual gameplay/combat is fun. There's just no reason to play other than hoping to luck out on a decent team in ranked.
Reverting the Cloaking Device to its original state is crucial for maintaining balance and effectiveness in the game. Increasing the activation cost from 14.2% to 33% severely impacts its viability for survival and strategic maneuvers. This penalizes players for using the cloak as intended, disrupts gameplay fluidity, and disproportionately affects those reliant on invisibility for survival. The justification that it doesn't affect maximum sustain time is insufficient, as it disrupts combat flow and strategic depth. Restoring the Cloaking Device is necessary to preserve gameplay integrity and ensure a balanced experience for all players.
Petition to reduce swords alt attack damage from 140 to 120.
The movement provided by the sword and dash is outmatched.
The high damage of the swords alt attack paired with the swords high maneuverability is frustrating to play against in ranked.
There are also two exploits that i know of - the emote cancel exploit, and the ghost hit exploit.
Reducing sword dashes damage from 140 to 120 would increase* ttk against mediums and heavys.
The reduced damage of the alt attack would require a quick melee in conjunction with two alt attacks. Example: 120+120+40, 120+120+74, or 120+74+74 to kill a medium.
Heavys would require 120+120+120, 74+74+74+74+74 or 120+120+74+40 for example.
The sword is by far the best melee weapon in the game. The sword has a very forgiving alt attack with damage frames during its entire animation. The sword provides light with increased movement. Not only that, the sword can strike and kill riot shield users while they are actively blocking; and can also reliably hit enemies behind mesh shields and within dome shields.
Play pubs, way more fun if youre soloing and playing non meta stuff, i dont ever look at ranked unless i want to try especially since i hit diamond
I just lost a game because my gateway just gets eatten if I throw it 100 ft into the air above the bridge on Seoul, which means I can't cross the bridge even though I have a throwable TP. That's just one example.
PLEASE get rid of arbitrary "no-no zones" for gateways. They make no sense at all. Plenty of them aren't even close to a kill box.
Just fix the crashes and bring some more players with a juicy event and i'll be happy
remove sniper, especially from power shift, half of the lobbies just sitting on the edge of the map sniping and no one has a good time, ffs
@viral whale lul cry when there will be no one to play this game and "skill issue" tiktok child sentence
Hey Embark y'all are doing good, keep it up. :)
1st, skill issue, 2nd it prob has to do with the challenge get 1000 damage from 100m, 3rd cry about it dang @Wiljaamos didnt mean to upset you lmao, it just seemed funny that u were this bad at the game. whats wrong monkey, check up @cedar haven based af
I agree
Does anyone else feel like the ranked progression is bugged? Im not sure now accurate the arrows showing the points youve gained/lost is, but it seems to be random
Throwing Knives are too OP, need immediate nerfs. Especially with grapple. Plus tracking dart and goo are too crazy
Plus 93-r and KS-23 is even more OP
Sniper is super easy to avoid, just dont run in straight lines... and there's cover everywhere
Lmafo i serious bro there the hardest weapon to play and have you every tried to take down a Heavy Class with them it take some time lol
Strongly disagree. The sniper is hitscan, meaning no matter how far away the sniper is if there cross-hair is over your body when they press fire you get hit, it doesn't matter how you run because it doesn't matter how far the bullet has to travel to git you
I agree snipers do need to be removed from power shift. People sit back and drink coffee while clicking a button here and there.
@trail vigil sniper are hard to avoid due to them being hitscan like @obtuse yoke just just said
at least snipers can only one shot lights with headshot
Can we have emote what shows us watch so we can look time from our watch .š i bet it would sell more watches also.....
yeah sitting back drinking coffee while not doing obj at all
so true brother, u can change to any class with ANY loadout in that game mode and ADAPT to the snipers
a few orbital lasers wouldn't hurt there...
to my knowledge, there's currently a bug/weird thing showing you the arrows only for the last round you played. I was disconnected during round 3 and managed to reconnect (got 3 arrows up) then we lost the final (got 1 arrow down) so it seems to be the case at least sometimes
please make it so i cant place shit on bushes
real shit
Suspended for a ranked Tournament after game crashed 2 minutes into the match. I rejoined the match, we qualified. Kicked me from the match and gave me a 6 minute suspension. How did I deserve this?
This game would be better without medium
please make ranked matchmaking expand search parameters after a few minutes - waiting 10+ minutes for a match is stupid
agree, it is so annoying to see four lights playing the sniper
Power shift is the only mode where sniper can be properly annoying without a lot of setup. (even then, just use goo, or a barrier, etc.)
any other mode, they need to actually set up a cashout to snipe it most of the time. Have a heavy with sledge knock it down, take a good position, not get snuck up on, etc.
To nerf sniper or APS just because of how they perform in one gamemode is kinda not a great idea. To remove it entirely is just cringe.
@viral whale 100%, exactly what I was getting at. The fact something is busted in one gamemode is no reason to ask for sweeping nerfs or flat out removal.
it's the same with the APS in powershift. It's stupid and busted there, absolutely. But I never see anyone complain about it outside of powershift.
(plus, if it wasn't there, people would be complaining about medium GL, guaranteed. You'd have like, 3 or 4 mediums running that shit and carpet bombing the platform the instant the enemy team got on) In fact, I'd say sniper's only seen so dominantly in powershift BECAUSE of APS preventing the horrible medium grenade spam.
everyone seems to forget that power shift is the only game mode where you can change between any class and any loadout you want, and complaining about a game mode that might not be permanent is pointless to the development to this game and the balance issues. that being said to change things bc of one games mode is stupid and pointless and to complain about it here among t other things de-values other important issues people try to explain here
**APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem ** (Day 14 of asking)
Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever
Suggestion:
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
side note: for the love of RN-Jesus just let me play with my fav gun cl-40 Without a aps fcking me over.
Like How are you suppose to kill someone WHO CAN"T TAKE DAMAGE??? its like playing riot shield without the shield
(embark pls fix
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Really like the game but I wish casual tournaments still existed because it's a really fun gamemode and I wish I could play it without anything being at risk
sorry if this has been said already but having a weekly challenge of doing dailies is lazy
Devs can you please track healing and assists please
how do I actually get in contact with someone jesus
Can we make the "steal a cashout in progress" challenges teamwide. I hate having to fight my team for the steals. Like change it to "take possession of the cashout 15 times"
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Itās a joke dumbass
another day ranking w cheater , boosting teammate w new acc
god dammit embark PLEASE nerf sniper. Don't make it hit scan for fuck sake I cant have a day without sniper players calling themselves "based", "good" or "gigachad" while using "skill issue" as an insult when they spend the whole match barely moving at all using the class with the highest movement speed.
I fking love this game
thats the point of dash then, doesn't mean RPG needs a buff, don't be stupid
Why cheaters with platinum - diamond is still in the game? I think all games they played other people reported they. So why they still in the game?
can you stop matching me with silver players when im fucking unranked
And why if i play with friends who have rank less mine - i take more minuses with full party. Its not normal and just It discourages the desire to play together
FFS!! FIX THE GOD AWFUL HIT REGISTRATION!! It's garbage
LMFAO 2v3 out in round 3 and I have double down arrow. Positive kd plenty of support and objective score. What a fucking joke of a system and game. Get a grip devs
why? the game has obviously deemed you to be a silver player 𤣠thats how placements work
Yes
Fix the Bug where your Name changes to a Random generated one like "ShotgunScharlie" or sth. like that. My friends always encounter that problem although they made an Embark Account and play on Pc.
sys$horizon streets & skyway alleys need Mario Kart boost pads
They will be adding vehicles to maps eventually, why do you think the streets are designed so wide š š š
one of my teammates died, and me and my other teammated coined. but the res trophy didnt even appear at all on the map after he died so he had to coin as well :/
Please make watches visible with ALL upper body equipment. Make the cuff roll up or scrunch up just enough to let the watch be visible. Please. Especially the business suit. Zero point in having it equipped if you can't show it off, Zero point in having it equipped if it can't be seen, Zero point in equipping it if it won't be visible anyway. Pants already adapt to shoes. Do the same with watches. Please.
If someone doesn't want the watch showing they can just take it off.
This has happened to me a few times as well. Or, the cashout would show on the bottom floor in Horizon, but would actually be on the 2nd floor...
For the trophy system, it should be made so that it can stop maximum 9 projectile and after it disappears or doesnt workš
i get wrecked by them sometimes and it can get annoying when i'm trying to complete a contract or stick to a play style but i don't think the devs should do anything since i just end up sniping back most times
Every FPS game have a sniper, removing it totally does not make sense
Make Sniping takes more skill. Bulletdrop, no hitscan, screenshake while shot. If I still get sniped, he deserved it!
little spitball of an idea for reworking recon
most of the complaints i saw about recon was about it affecting players
like knowing when an enemy will peak and making it pretty much impossible to flank and surprise them
so what if we turned that around?
it doesn't ping players but instead gives you an outline of the surrounding structures and any placed gadgets (mines, turrets, etc.)
it helps you find possible flank routes and notifies you about potential dangers before trying to attack
the items it reveals are used defensively, so attacking teams wont be found by them
it also helps find shortcuts by revealing zip-lines for example
little unorganized thought, maybe there is something to work off of there
Please bring back Ranking Points. It was so nice to actually see what your progress is. And please just match people against the same rank (for example: gold 1 with lowest: gold 3 and highest : plat 2). Would be so much better...
What is the main problem now? Great developers? The plug-in is ruining the game because you can't guarantee that all 16 teams are full of green players in one game. We encountered two groups of plug-ins in the third round of knockout. What is fair? There is no fair, platinum one-stage game, if the third round elimination still makes the ranking down, then what are the first two games we played? Is it a waste of time? How will more and more green players choose after countless defeats? Leave the green game, or insert the disk and leave the pain to others?š³š„š„š
People are bad at the game and complain about abilities that they hate. The lights abilities are centered around the light while the heavy and medium are team based. There is a dude saying he wants the lights to get defibs. Bro thank god you are not on the dev team. Your ignorance is astounding. Lights can keep their high damage but the abilities are way over powered an not easily countered. (Pre nerf)
Please find a way to fix the cheating problem. The longer this goes on, the quicker this game will die out. It's not even funny anymore, almost every other game you get to encounter a cheater. It sucks that it really goes unnoticed that even cheaters populate the diamond spot.
Itās not something it can be done unfortunately. Only way could be permanently ban users at least on console. This game is suffering with cheating problems, bad balancing, terrible matchmaking, boring ranked mode. Wonder if they will ever fix one of these one dayā¦.
Still looking for a game with more balance between class and weapons. And less dmg explosions. More aiming less ramdoming
Fix when u hit someone with sword lunge clearly and it does no damage keeps selling me
Repeating request to never be matched with people you have blocked.
- What is the point to grind after Diamond 4? No cosmetics and this information would not be transfered to the next season. Why you did not show old medals from the previous seasons? It would have sense to grind more if i or everyone could see my previous medals with subrank
- Fix disappearing of the class name from scoreboard after the player disconnects from the game. I would like to see it because it is the most important info and learing all of the kda and combat/support points is useless if i can not see the class name
I'll fund u. one cheater per game on a sunday night. brilliant
that's the only sensible plea for sniper rework i've read here in a LONG while lol
@patent torrent good idea
Im diamond 2 and if I donāt get in the final I lose elo and sometimes when I win I just get 2 arrows up jajaj
damn first game after 2 week break and 2 cheaters ingame, guess its time for break forever
There is a bug where you can activate dash while being respawned with a defib
There are too manny cheaters. I have been reporting the same 4 cheaters for 5 games straight, 3 off them have been on the same team every single time. Please bann people faster and do the IP bann instead of litteraly doing nothing like i always experiense. I meet cheaters in 6 out off 10 games, please do something. This is on fucking EU servers!
I think you're addicted bro, step outside
Starts by stopping the use of after market controllers and then ends with stopping cross console. Cheaters will die after that.
Bring back one shot rpg
please buff being able to see (theres a sniper in this image)
Is there any way to implement a kill cam with the way ressing works in this game? Maybe instead of kill cam have something like R6 where you can rewatch the match in replay after it had finished and see people's pov, at least for ranked. It'd really help with reporting cheaters that are in opposite teams, especially subtle ones.
Dude it's every single Round in Asia server that has cheaters. Raising awareness of that fact is not called addiction
Add in Vegas for Power Shift.
am i the only one who things the circuit challenge to do 4k damage outside 100 meters is heinous, you literally have to be over half way across most maps to even get a chance at doing the damage and on top of that6 most guns other than the sniper do like 1 dmg a shot at that range cause fall off
Is it rly that difficult to bring kbm back to console I'm gonna have to buy a mf xim for this shit
Please also consider banning players who are partying with an aimbot. It's ridiculous because there are instances where you could potentially eliminate the hacker in a 2v1 or 3v1 situation, but their teammate is constantly healing/supporting them.
people getting boosted do get banned
i think we should consider changing some weapons to be gadgets
the 3 I'm thinking of are dagger, cl-40 and the flamethrower
with dagger you sacrifice a lot and while it can get some work done, you're often just worse off than had you been using any of the guns
if it were a gadget you could play like normal and when the situation arises where its upside can come in hand, you could take it out and make use of it
in that sense, it would fit right in with the other gadgets
(i think it wouldn't even need balance changes when turned into a gadget)
people complain that cl-40 is spammy and annoying
we could lower its damage and turn it into a gadget
you cant spam out light anymore, since its damage would be too low to compete with their high mobility and good damage
instead it would be used for occasional utility with its destruction and to shoot at groups of people
its less annoying to single players but still useful by helping in team fights
i really like cl-40 and it would suck a bit to loose it as a primary damage option but if it improves the game for others this might be a nice compromise
it would also help against aps, since you don't loose your primary option for damage and can just swap to whatever primary you have
should mostly be a win-win
lastly, the flamethrower
you sacrifice a lot of range and damage for utility and afterburn
but it still got enough damage to be pretty strong and sometimes annoying against lights (especially with said damage over time)
i would lower its damage and give it more range
you would basically pull it out before a fight and burn everyone a little bit to soften them up
while keeping its utility purposes
the nerfs make them less annoying but since you give up less, them being weaker should be ok
it lets us balance them in ways that would otherwise not be possible
agreed, ty
Good points
In a Ranked Game
Game Crashes
Relaunch Game
Get abandon because getting an abandon is faster than relaunching + reconnecting to the game.
This system is trash.
its every single round in EU too and for many weeks, even tho you claim its not like that Lmao
I hate low grav so much its such a pain for melee
Buddy if it's that bad for you, Then why you replying to me, then also state that in Game feedback, Embark fix ur anti cheat lmao
I have my "Play 1 game in Quick Cash" daily quest marked as completed after I played Power Shift
just came out of a game where 2 teams of hackers are playing as one. they took turn in round 3 to defend the cashouts as a 6-man team (4 hackers out of 6) lol
if anyone is willing/cares I'm collecting clips for a no reg/ hit registration being strange and i would like to take submissions from others not just my own and my duo experience dm me with clips or stories and I'll see what I can do
Day 46 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.
- 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
- 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
- Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
- bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
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- significant damage to structures and players
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- gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
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- high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
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- its a goddamn minigun
- - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
- - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no āpocket minigunā strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
- - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
Oh please skul Iām hardly the worst offender. Me posting my little skit daily isnāt exactly lowering the quality of this rant channel they call feedback.
can we just ban people from this channel if they constantly repost the same shit already please, actually just spamming away other feedback
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give minigun for cheaters to use, yes
I think dash is in a great place rn and I think it should be paired with a light double jump. I think cloak is still in a perfectly fine place aswell considering it still serves its purpose. I used a dash light last night and went 14/2 and was in deep on most gun fights. Not playing the hide and pick playstyle most lights use. I think light is fine as a class and people are overreacting but the weapons are very underpowered. The shitty seems inconsistent and the throwing knives just suck. Would be cool if they did poison tick dmg or something
Listen, I'm not saying people don't bring up valid ideas and concerns, I'm gonna repeat some of them too, but there's just so much pointless bickering about the smallest of things that don't really matter. I wanted to shed some light on the truly most important issues.
PERFORMANCE: the performance in this game is very bad. No idea why people don't bring it up, it's the number 1 reason why I stopped playing this game. I used to have a stable framerate of around 110fps during the beta, now it's down to a very, very unstable 60. It's legit getting worse and worse and worse each week with every update. Even when playing on GeForce Now with a 4090 RTX, where Doom Eternal reaches 400 fps - yes, FOUR HUNDRED fps - The Finals is sometimes struggling with 100, dipping down to 85. It's terrible for a fast paced FPS to stutter this much. The loading times are just absurd - every 3rd match takes close to 2 or 3 minutes to load, it also often crashes/freezes during loading screens. Since March, I also started to notice the netcode getting worse and my character often dying a good few meters behind corners.
THE GUNPLAY: have you ever wondered why the gunplay feels so off in this game? Of course, there's bad balancing and Tarkov-like recoils in an arcady Apex-y class shooter. As everyone said already, a ton of weapons needs to be buffed and the recoil patterns reverted to a much more tolerable state, cause right now there's maybe like a single gun on 2 out of the 3 classes that's actually fun to use. But wait, there's more! Did you know that your sights/crosshair don't actually show you where the bullets are going to hit? Yes, that's right. This issue existed for years and it wasn't fixed. Bullets always come from the middle of your screen, no matter what's happening. Which means your crosshair/sights actually make you miss. It's an insane oversight, I can't put into words how much worse the game is because of it.
are u asking them to nerf natural light, or cloak?
r u stupid
captcha test,, are you human
Meta is so boring every fight feel the same. Teams holding hands shields and heals. It was more fun when we had nukes and recon to be honest.
Never gonna happen while cheating is so rampant
He didnāt get the question, donāt rag him for that.
The games lighting system creates these awful flare effects when youāre indoors, making it hard to see enemies outside, while enemies outside can see you just fine.
@wraith igloo new things can be added regardless whether or not cheaters exist.Sides the minigun wouldnāt even be that good for it, I didnāt add things like a headshot mod for a reason.
Also ācheating is so rampantā in pretty much any game out there right now. People can rag on EAC all they want, but most anti cheatās are shitting the bed in a day and age where you can circumvent a ban seven ways from Sunday.
this game needs a fckng text chat bcs my team dont want to communicate in voice chat, they just dont join it, devs WE NEED THIS
Okay, something needs to be done with spawn points in the Seoul map in power shift. Or any static spawn points at least. Because I just had 3 consecutive matches on it where the enemy team would camp the spawn area incessantly, no time to fight back because they're invi most of the time too. Idk what a good solution might be, but maybe have it damage us, like a tick damage if we stay there for too long because camping it incessantly is not fair at all.
Idk bro..must be something wrong with those GeForce now PCs because they should be running much more than 100 fps. I have 200+ fps most the time and my buddy is playing on 400 fps
The game isn't that poorly optimized really, so your post regarding performance is a bit of a bait or false statement
Has there been a buff for all light smgs or is everyone hacking cos they shred through a heavy ( which is supposed to be the strongest class ) in seconds, before i can react im dead, and none of the weapons at a heavys disposal are any good to take care of them. and thanks to the recent nerf of the mesh shield you cant defend urself anymore.
Erverygame there is at least 3 lights who shred through everybody, and then by the end have 15 kills per player
And since the new update the game has been a but ton more laggy then before, i used to be able to have discord running in the backround but now my game freezes whenever it opens.
Can we have one passive skillset for all class? For example, I can equip an Anti-stun body armor for my chosen class or gas mask or whatever as a passive skill I can equip during the loadout before entering the match. That would be a cool new mechanic.
PLEASE CAN WE FCKN REMOVE OR CHANGE THE DEPSOT 150k CASH CHALLENGE. IāVE BEEN AT IT FOR NEARLY 2 WEEKS AND IM FCKN STRUGGLING SO BAD
WISHLIST OF WEAPON BUFFS
LIGHT:
- 93R: needs the most help (significant fire rate increase + time between bursts reduced)
- M11: increased min/max range for damage dropoff
- V9S: increased min/max range for damage dropoff
- SH1900: increased damage per pellet from 10 to 11
- Throwing Knives: reduced time between bursts + the ability to hold right-click
- Dagger: hitreg fixes
- Sword: remove emote-cancelling and make the emote-cancel stabbing speed the default speed
MEDIUM:
- AKM: damage increased from 20 to 21
- FAMAS: time between bursts reduced
- Model 1887: non-empty reload speed increase (preferably shortening that stupid 2-second shell ejection animation)
- CL-40: grenade arc visible while aiming down sights
- R.357: fire rate increased
- Riot Shield: damage increased so that it 4-hits Heavies
HEAVY:
- M60: reduced spread while aiming down sights
- KS-23: fire rate increased + reload speed increased
- MGL-32: grenade arc visible while aiming down sights
- Flamethrower: slight fire rate increase
- Sledgehammer: allow hitting multiple targets with left-click
EMBARK PLS ADD A GALAGA STYLED POINT ARCADE MACHINE THINGG IN THE ATK/DEF
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As a casual casual very casual player I hate the fact that if we team wipe when the cashout is at 50% it takes so long to run back to the cashout because of the broken spawns that we are physically unable to even try to steal it back.
(I am a casual player btw)
Think ppl are playing thinking itās a gpu intensive game
I like the idea of the occasional post-game feedback, but think it would be good to have neuteral response options too
lots of diamond cheaters that are still not banned kekw, better add a overwatch systems and make bans faster.
I don't care about the new game mode, I just want the stun gun nerfed like it was promised 2 weeks ago, the mines being triggered by free cams fixed, the not being able to shoot/reloading indefinitely bug fixed and the Goth girl skin from the season 2 trailer released. While you're at it, improve the god damn netcode so im not getting killed 2 feet around corners, and when I melee and then throw a gas barrel, it actually primes (as it is right now, 5/10 times I melee something im holding, nothing happens). The netcode has actually gotten worse since launch, and it wasn't great to begin with.
I had a random thought the other day, what if we reverted the cloak nerf? That could be something to try.
I agree with most of these but the one on sword getting an emote cancel level buff is kinda insane, if we're buffing sword let's make it hit multiple enemies instead. Flamethrower buff is not needed unless we also reduce damage. Cl 40 might be a bit too easy to use with an arc
EMBARK! Hi pls add more options (customable)to the private lobby like: teams 2v2v2 4v4. if it possible and host or mates can swap between teams.( add killcam to game....) THX
Replay system 
congrats for 16k players
Healgun stops working after 1 match, and the support to create a ticket is down
Buffing the flamethrower is crazy work
"emmmm... the game works fine for ME! if it doesn't for you, it's your fault, fuckin troll"
A few things today...
I'll take a moment to say I appreciate that we can track contract now. It's a little awkward but a welcome addition.
I prefer the gamertag as it was. Right now it is buggy. You either see the gamertag or embark ID depending on where you are looking. i.e. roster vs active voice chat icon. It's confusing.
Please separate Voice from the Face. I'd love to use the CNS voice with some of the other faces for example. + This could be one more category for the shop.
Well, you are saying that a PC with a 4090 can barely run the game at 100 fps? Unless that PC has a terrible CPU and RAM, I'd say something is wrong, because they should be pulling WAY more than 100 fps on the game.
Sure, some people have bad performance on the game, but that doesnt mean the game is generally unoptimized. It runs fine / well for most people with good setups, however there are exceptions and people who have issues, I won't downplay that.
Really hope the trailer also comes with some patch notes. I know itās not usually the way you guys go about it, but Iād love to know what we can expect a little early.
Donāt really like that the two most abused weapon for medium class is getting buff but dude. CL-40 having visible grenade arc will be so clutch. Please embark, it will make learning this gun so much easier š„ŗ
what do you mean? theres no power shift in seoul š¤
are you talking about moving platforms?
Tbh I think that theres to less to do for long time motivation...
Either please add endgame Battlepass rewards or just add more harder rewards for big achievements etc
please remove the melee auto lockon.
also: The light classes hitbox when using the katana and dahs at the same moment isn't at the same position where they are at.
Also: Please Remove the fucking stun gun. It requires zero commitment and makes everything melee completely useless.
i have a 3060 and run 140 frames idk
make it more obvious when you get a friend request plsssss
Day 32 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.
Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?
this, the whole social menu could use a little love IMO
can we add peoples union for thermal vision cuz its inconsistnet with invis pple and you cant tell gas apart
lmao crashes in lobby
To be fair, I prefer the daily minigun ask over people screeching "DeaD gAmE! GAmE dEaD caUsE cHetOr! NeRf DasH!!!!!" That sort of thing.
At least they're petitioning to actually add or change something
tips against flame thrower. Dont get in their range. Otherwise, most gun can out dps them. even if you dont take him down, your teammate will. basically stop running away and start trying to aim for headshout.
Embark, you want to fix your games player count? Make ranked a better experience. Im plat 2/3 and tried to play 2 tournaments this morning and in the first game both of my teammates sat idle the entire game, naturally I finish last trying to be a one man army. In my second tournament, one teammate quits 3 minutes in after going 1-4 and the other teammate left 2 minutes later while going 2-6. This happened 2 games in a row and now I wonāt be playing for the remainder of the day.
Im not leaving the game for more than the afternoon. But it completely destroys any urge to play. Way more than playing against cheaters, way more than playing with diamonds. Itās a terrible, terrible experience.
By allowing this behavior youāre basically forcing people to play stacked or not play at all. And youāll never have a high player count if the solo experience isnāt fixed.
please šš» fix šš» your šš» crashing šš» game šš»

anything about a nerf to the aps? something like .5s or something between each nade cancel? or it will stay like this for all grenade launcher player?
Careful. If you crash in ranked, you lose no matter what
also add punishment for leaving games. every game i play and we start losing theres a leaver.
lets play guess the cheater! so tired of this shit. Like every 2nd game some brand new account with no skins clearly wall hacking and aimbotting. I'm surprised this one actually bothered logging onto the embark website and changing his name
@tall relic congrats! you lose!
@pseudo breach the heavy on purple team. Walling and aimbotting.
Just because they aren't standing on top of a building beaming everyone being super obvious doesn't mean they aren't cheating. This game is like 50% closet cheaters
@pearl kiln
Here's an idea I have:
how about a specialization for the heavy class that shoots out a grappling hook (a short one) that attaches to buildings and destroys that part of the building when it is brought back to the player. IK this would be too op, so a solution would be to make the animations slow, leaving the heavy vulnerable for like 1 second after the whole thing
No one cheating here
Which one you talking about? Seems fine to me š¤·š»āāļø
Dear embark, i have a very stupid idea for a new mechanic. I call it, "The passive skills". What if every class can equip ONE passive skill into their loadout that each has very specific use.
Anti-Emp armor: Full resistance against glitch and stuns
Gas mask: Immune to gas
Ballistic Armor: Reduce explosive damage
Stealth: All enemy turrets ignores you (including vegas turrets). Cannot be tracked
Visor scan: Can see cloaks
Anti-flammable skin: Immune to fire
Bulletproof Vest: Reduce bullet damage
Steel Armor: Reduce melee damage
Chemical Armor: Immune to Goo incapatication
Helmet: No headshot critical damage
Glitchy boots: Cannot trigger any mines
Military Gloves: Faster reloading
Yo, idea: the last couple games I've been playing with a triple stack of me, silver 2, and two teammates silver 3 and gold 4. We are consistently going against lobbies of all platinums. We are still doing ok making it to the second or third round but it's a real struggle every time. My idea is that there would be an underdog XP bonus where if you were playing against much higher rank players there would be additional rank increase for still doing well.
Best regards: a tired silver.
I think it might be bc you guys are a stack and so it probably puts you guys in higher elo lobbies? Not sure tho i still donāt think stacks should play against solos
āGuess the cheaterā and itās a completely normal looking scorecard.
Nah dude this looks like mad cope. Not everyone with a positive KDA is cheating. Show us some real proof of a cheater.
Nah, that just sounds really cool and like it has good possibile tech if you could cancel it halfway and just throw a building chunk at people.
I think that's balanced, and I want it now
I suggest adding a higher values for ads.. had to fiddle around so much with sens and fov while using another converter just to get an ads that feels alright
The average player wonāt go through all this work
Also mines are bringing down the skill ceiling so much, itās just place the mines and camp⦠not the way for a competitive shooter
Day 24 of asking Embark for medieval bundles
I looked at the scorecard expecting someone going 17-0 I was disappointed in seeing the best player having a 2.0 kdr. Not a very good hacker imo
Maybe add a medieval cosmetic bundle
Sticker placement!
That would make half the equipment pointless or severly hinder them
Even worse, since you dont know what they choose beforehand its esentially random how effective anything will be in an interaction
How would you even go about letting players know if anything will be less effective?
Not even mentioning that "put on and forget" is pretty boring
Please dont
please fix the terrible net code and interpolation. Being shot around corners, being shot by dudes facing the opposite direction, being backstabbed by a dagger in the face, being hit by a sword dash that didn't come within 5 feet of you, people completing steals AFTER you kill them (just happened). I have the biggest love hate relationship with this game. There's so many little bullshit things that happen every round that just make me rage. Some days I can't even make it 3 matches before I just can't and alt-f4. one of the devs said this is expected behavior with your systems. THIS IS NOT OKAY!
@pseudo latch thats why I said guess the cheater, because no one would know looking at the scoreboard. According to you and everyone else, unless they are spin botting/rage hacking going 30-0 they aren't cheating. This is why the cheating is so bad, because everyone defends it and they have no fucking clue.
@versed cloud the only reason he had as many deaths as he did was because I was focusing him both my kills and my assist were him. His aimbot wasn't set to the head bone (this is normal because the headshot sounds give it away). but he very obviously knew where everyone was at all times. most cheaters are shit at the game, that's why they cheat.
@visual bramble clown
skill issue
GUYS IM NOT CRAZY EVERYONE ELSE IS!!!
shit spawn shit sound shit guns shits events full of tryhard im about to drop the fucking game its not fun
ppl only complain here. I just wanna thank embark for a great and refreshing game 
You're right. I have received multiple feedbacks from the chat channel and all of them didnt liked it. I will disregard my "genius" idea into "stupid" instead. Thanks for your honest review.
imsgine two heavies using this together to tilt a whole building
A scorecard doesnāt prove anything, your word, no offense, means as much as anyoneās, which is nothing. Shadowplay this shit otherwise everyoneās gonna think youāre coping when you show us an 8/4 heavy and insist theyāre cheating, especially when you have a meltdown with anyone who doesnāt believe you.
I actually think dats a gud idea
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Love you embark
Too many aimbot/wallhacks .. Good thing I didn't purchase anything yet from this game. I kinda hesitant.
New game mode its good new but dont try again to replace bank it š¤
@scarlet shale yes, thanks for fighting the good fight :)
@floral vault I've been having the same experience for a while, but I kinda realised it doesn't mean much.
Currently gold1, I've been regularly wrecking plats and even diamonds, and on the other hand i've been regularly completely carried by silvers and even bronzes sometimes.
I know it sounds like the ranking system doesn't work if that's so common, but I would also recommend you not to loose faith too quickly when seeing the badges.
Sometimes just trying hard and being the saint teammate for 5 minutes is enough to change a widely rank-spread, dysfunctional team into a beautiful cooperative machine of destruction. It happens more often than i would have thought before.
https://ibb.co/RTvTwJB imagine getting a nice respawn location, on the freaking other side of the map
this is exactly what i was talking about last time
#šāgame-feedback message
š¤¦āāļø can we get a decent respawn location if the timer has like 2/3 of the bar left?, instead of on the other side of the map,
fyi i took the screenshot later, i saw the bar going lower and knew i couldnt make it.
its rediciulous rlly...
Please remove the sniper rifle from Power Shift.
early art showed 3 different statues, but ever since alpha it's only ever been the medium.
#official-art message
do devs not understand why game is dying? its not because lack of game modes, why do they keep adding it
M1 garand skin/animations pack for LH1 please
please embark add matchmaking by input. halo infinite had an amazing system that did just that. if u were on controller you would only play against people on controller. and vice versa
There us definitely different levels to hacking that's for sure. There's the obvious cheaters, and the not so obvious ones. But make sure to record the gameplay if you notice anything suspicious. I imagine there are people who only wallhack, or only no recoil, or only aimbot at torso. So it's trickier to detect when you just use 1 and not all. (In other words best of luck out there!)
And if you're playing light, you already die so fast you can hardly tell, lol
Unless it's some medium headshot beaming you from 100+ meters with the AKM
its ridiculous how many times you let unreal engine crashes happen lol
BRO VAULT THE DEVIBS AND HEALING BEAM
We need an better punishment for leaving games. Just played a casual cashout game where over 7 people left.
you should make a equip to all button for emotes please
can you elaborate? I mean, what the differece between having that and using a red explosive barrel to destroy a wall. that just sound very weak... but it might be because im high rank
Ranked matchmaking is so bad. Full team of golds vs not a single person below Plat 2.
Casual needs to be a place where you can just go play care free. That means that sometimes you've got teammates that leave, or do completely random things. This may lead to frustration, but sometimes the games are more fun precisely because of that.
The old Ranking system needs to come back. Going down after reaching final round, or round 3, makes no sense. The FP system was perfect, normal. Please take care of ranked, you guys are gonna lose players if you dont.
the old ranking system was garbage, you just had to play lots to rank up, there was no skill involved. The new ranked system is way better, just terrible at informing the player what's happening. If you win a round, you gain, if you lose a round, you lose.
Day 5 of asking Embark for prop hunt
Currently reaching diamond is easy and follows the old system.
Diamond 3,2 & 1 are for like best of the best type shit since u need to be super consistant to rank up.
Before it was just infinite grind.
I do wish we got a tangable number to work with instead of a shitty arrow up/down.
I mean to be real, itās kinda the same. You still almost never derank. Iāve gotten all the way to plat 2 without ever losing more than a single arrows worth of points.
these types of comments are so annoying. COUNTER IT. you act as if youāre always going to win if you sit on the platform w heavy and medium and play defense. thatās not all there is to the mode. if it was that would be STALE. swap to medium or light and go hunt down the snipers for godsake.
or you know. just go to discord and complain to remove what you donāt know how to counter.
have you forgotten you have 4 teammates? being āin the playā again does not always mean being on the platform. you are still āin playā when you are helping your team hunting down snipers instead of whining and not doing that. you are literally using: āitās not funā to justify your decision. bc it is absolutely fair that snipers have a much harder time at close range when you do close the distance.
but sure letās remove sniper from the only mode itās really viable in. letās just remove sniper altogether at that point.
"Just hunt down the class made of movement abilities". Yeah, it can work, but it takes you out of play for the duration where you close the distance to the sniper player (granted youre even able to convert the elimination). A weapon that can hit on any range in a game mode where youre in the open 98% of the time just isn't fair nor fun. I will die on this hill.
DATA RESHAPER needs two chargers.
Movement things that hinder gameplay to a minor degree but still could be fixed in a QOL patch.
Ziplines cannot be placed while jumping, but if the End of a zipline is on another surface other than the floor, a visual glitch will occur telling the player it can be placed, and when timing the placement correctly. The zipline acts as if placed but will not be placed and gives your zipline back.
Jump pads can be placed on walls, but can also be climbed if placed at the top of a wall. you'll climb to the highest point of the jump pad, but when the animation ends, you'll be flicked backwards, these sequences are very jarring, erratic and also serves very little purpose other than being an oversight. Let's make it so the flick backwards happens first, and the animation doesn't play at all.
Zipline placement on a window frame can be blocked somehow even if LOS is still there.
We need more weapons,maps and game mechanics all imma say Because if we gotta wait each 3 months for new content this game ain't gonna last long
I agree!
This game is actually terrible. So many things between starting w fair matchmaking Iām a Gold 1 and Iāll be playing w other golds and in the past 7 games Iāve only played 4 other gold players every single team had minimum of 2 plats and atleats 2 diamonds in the lobby. I have never been higher then gold nor have my teammates which is ridiculous. Next the team spawning, everytime it spawns us atleast 30/40 seconds away and by the time we get there the point is almost over. The rank system in this game is abysmal doesnāt tell you Elo just a stupid up and down arrow. If the devs really cared about this game they would fix these issues but it seems they donāt gaf. Just another game like Fortnite where they sell out on all the cosmetics and donāt care about anything else.
CrƩator mode Please!
This game is actually great, but whoever is in charge of turning this into a competitive experience needs to go back to school. Nothing they do to rank has helped much. I still see the occasional game with ALL 5 ranks in a single round. I tend to lean more towards this indicating that ranks are meaningless, in which case; whatās the point? After almost five months The Final round is antifun, the spawns are not intuitive enough, and the ranked system is deliberately opaque. I enjoy playing sweating, but explain to me how this rank is supposed to work. Does anyone actually know?? If I get a blow out victory in R1 but a narrow loss in R2 why am I being down-arrowed, what exactly does a down arrow mean, and if it means that Iām grinding out two rounds just for a negative result why would I keep playing?
Day 5 of saying this dude needs to be heard
@wise kindle what was your rank when you lost arrows in the final round ? Also, are you sure it's not related to that weird quirk of the system where it only shows progression for the last round only ?
@pine flower I have to agree on this one, it would be better to entice players to play casual with fun modes and unlockables to grind, because ranked (and it would still be questionnable if it was working perfectly) is too sweaty and frustrating in most games to be the prime focus.
add fsr 3.1 fg
Delete stun plz
give us a setting to turn off anti aliasing its so annoying i cant see nothing
Cheaters.
Medium should be removed
Katana PLS
M&k support on console or its Just useless play whit crossplay
katana yes
Iāve been playing a lot of cash out this weekend and Iām beginning to really fucking hate the orange team even when you try to fight them they always seem to have the best loadout and win like nine times out of 10 I think SBMM is broken and needs to be fixed because orange team always has 12 to 28 kills every time I play against that team like purple the team youāre supposed to fight and orange is the only one that does they objective I feel like Iām fighting MPC with different objectives more often than not orange team wins and purple team just becomes annoying PVP monster
dematerializer feels a little weak, especially in comparison to the medi-gun, i think that buffing the rematerializing feature to either not cost any charges, or allowing it to rematerialize things that were broken by other means would put it in a good spot while allowing for smarter play
A built in LFG system would be super nice.... i know that's a huge thing to develop but it'd be great if you could pick up a third based on class + console v pc + voice chat enabled. Also just a "invite to party" or "play again with team" at the end of a game would be helpful for the time being. I'm talking about ranked of course.....
damn right
Hell yeah. We've been wanting this forever
would be nice to bring back old season 1 soundtrack (as an alternative option in settings i suppose)
what about an overtime countdown during a steal at the end of game?
maan im tired of this shit. The game crashed in ranked mode for not reeason and i got suspended, no way of rejoin. Why man whyy
the KS-23 lacks of something, it feels ok but it could be better, maybe more ammo, more damage to structures, reload speed or even fire rate one of them would be cool.
PLS FIX YOUR FREAKING SPAWNS!! THEY ARE TRASH AF
Create your map
please consider making an option to play "solo strict ranked queue". I know that numbers of the game might not be so good to add additional options but the reason casuals don't even want to touch ranked is no fun and not much chances in playing versus premade stacks. I play solo queue and i just play it for years in different games because i don't have friends who play fps games but if i would not be so sweaty i would never touch ranked because how the hell i can beat guys who run with two healing beams and heal a heavy with usage of insta-revives when i make a kill? Non of my random teammates do things like this.
Playing in solo queue will make chances even for every player. It will be fun to adapt with new team and play against same solo players.
Some games like Dota 2 added this thing in a past when players highlighted this problem to play against parties who are much better than random players.
Please consider making such kind of option for solo players. Maybe just some TLM to check how this works but this might be the way to invite solo players to grind without having frustration and pain in every damn ranked match
Embark, could you change it so the cowboy chrome applies to the face of the crash test dummy? My helmet covers most of it, but if it was chrome too you wouldn't be able to tell.
Thank you!
I agree you shouldn't lose any points if you beat 75% of the teams in a ranked tournament. I don't understand how they consider that a bad performance. But I think the ranked progression is based on totality of cash you finish within a match, that's my guess.
it would be nice if there were more locations for the cashout to spawn in
i had the cashout be in an alley way in Monaco once
never saw it there before or again, so i assume someone moved it
it changed the dynamic quit a bit and was a nice change of pace
i think the game could benefit from that
Wish there was more fire methods
If only people wouldnāt abuse the so easily abusable light the game might be fun. Got 3 snipers, one medium, and one heavy in push mode just ruining it. I agree with guy below me too. You pair the dumbest people with me and give the other team aim bot. Thanks I guess.
if the sbmm isnt fixed in the next update this games probably gonna lose another 10k players. Id rather play a 3 stack of aimbotters every game than have the teammates you give me. just had 2 heavies on my team and they went a combined 1-11. how did they ever leave bronze... and why should anyone lose rank after having to play a full match basically 1v3v3v3
FIX UR GAME WHY DO I HAVE TWO COPPERS ON MY TEAM WHEN IM GOLD
This season rank system doesnt even make sense. This happen to some streamer and this just happened to me where I went down 3 arrows after performing really well and making it to round 3-4 and it's horrible because there is no compensation for making it far in the tournament. The only time I ever get up arrows is when I win a tournament which is extremely horrible because of how many cheaters infest this game so even making it to the 2nd-3rd round is a blessing
Thats weird i always get an up arrow if i win a round. There were also times where i think i lost first round and got one up arrow
Fix sword glitch where u hit someone clearly and it dosentndo damage
Please let us see contract page mid match
REMOVE GRAVITY EVENT PLZZZ
totally agree
Recently played with is not easily usable. The system could at minimum split the recent play menu into by match so you can see where you played with/against someone. Additionally, it could show the role they played.
Please remove "damage 1 opponent with an arena carriable" daily when you have SYS map with zero carriable
what are the odds unranked tournaments come back? I miss being able to play tournaments with friends without having to gamble my rank
remove melee lunge already dumb apes
Bring back points like every other normal fucking ranked system. This is a joke devs get a grip
would be cool if they were any good. hit reg sucks with the connection server issues and just in general seems underpowered. also just won a tourny with no cheaters so im getting off for the weekš«”
I love the 6 cans of ospuze voiceline from scotty
And it seems like a good bunch of other people think so too
I hope we get more like it
day 2 of asking to put a red dot sight on any gun (please)
Had a glitch were I could not fire my gun until I was killed and revived.
So much hate, I think you are doing a great job keeping up with and listening to the playerbase. Keep it up!
I will say I would really appreciate some work with the auto lock on sledge, but otherwise super fun game that keeps me coming back. super hype for the next update!
This but the exact opposite until fcar is nerfed
Love this game so much yāall been killing it fr imo best fps we had in yearrs, all I wanna see is haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 and 120hz support for Xbox and PlayStation. But we really need more love for console you have a huge following over there and would love to see haptics implemented soon šš¾
Can anyone tell me why we havenāt got the fame points back yet? Cause as everyone else is saying this rank system is atrocious
make sure that when a Cheater is banned, the players who reported him get a notification, this way the players who have positive feedback in game report
do you knwo about it
can you please make it so you cant walk right over major holes in the ceiling. when your try to drop down a latch you just float around the top until you die
āPlease replicate this until due attention is paid:
š„ Add to game:
Global chat
Dm message to added friends
( Increase the social immersion of the game )
Return the ranking points
( To have a better idea that we are not stuck in the same place )
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
( Good for players to train gunfight and see which weapon is better, make casual players feel free to rank and etc... )
Unfortunately, there are currently far too many cheaters in the game. Please fix this problem because CS2 is slowly taking on structure with cheaters
Thanks for making my point for me that Defibs should go to Lights....M & H as YOU say are based around Team play with gadgets & utilities to benefit the team but Light has little TEAM utility at all & Defib would give them that Team utility. This is a Team based game after all & Lights are part of the team. & while they're at it REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!!
getting some real "nerf the red team they're too good" energy from this one, lol
Fix ur anticheat. Every game there are hacker and cheater. This sucks
give a notification or something (or at least remove the timer) when someone declines a party invite.
Hello, when I shoulder charge someone off the map can I get the kill please?
Reverting the Cloaking Device to its original state is crucial for maintaining balance and effectiveness in the game. Increasing the activation cost from 14.2% to 33% severely impacts its viability for survival and strategic maneuvers. This penalizes players for using the cloak as intended, disrupts gameplay fluidity, and disproportionately affects those reliant on invisibility for survival. The interference with gameplay, particularly when under fire and attempting to re-engage the cloak, is evident. The justification that it doesn't affect maximum sustain time is insufficient, as it disrupts combat flow and strategic depth. Restoring the Cloaking Device is necessary to preserve gameplay integrity and ensure a balanced experience for all players.
Buff C4 even an elbow stroke does more damage, itās ridiculous
Please start the cooldown on Guardian Turret and APS when they're destroyed, not when they're placed. APS should also lose durability when it negates something, it makes entire weapons unviable the way it is now. Aimbot Guardian Turret also not fun, if we nerf cloak and stun gun then nerf this too.
Is there a way to submit feedback besides discord that's trackable? Forums, Trello, or anything else? This feedback channel feels rather like talking in a void. We have no way of knowing what Embark is putting effort into, what they're listening to, why they're listening to certain feedback, etc.
Can't have ranked based matchmaking when there are no players. If you're plat, you should need to get to the 3rd round to consistently move up. Diamonds basically need to win the finals. And depending on their teammates and the rest of the lobby, they still might not go up lol
My friend's internet died and took like 4-5 mins to fix. By the time he could re-join he ranked game, he had been kicked/removed completely from the game.
He also only lost 2 "chevrons?" of rank, while us two lost 3 chevrons for the loss.
It feels like if he gets kicked, and cannot re-join, there should be some loss prevention in place for the people that play the rest of the match.
If not loss prevention, then let him ask to join the game again. Then it's up to the team to decide if they can re-join.
Thanks
PLEASE BRING BACK UNRANKED TOURNAMENTS
STOP NERFING. START BUFFING.
Your servers are the absolute worst ive ever seen in an FPS. Has anyone seen the lag smoothing break? Its ugly. And that is what is actually happening that we can't see. That's why the hit reg gets consistently worse.
can we have center dots?
I think the game on console should allow key board and mouse on console without third party devices. Make sense right the game is cross-play. Why donāt console already have kbm available
Thoughts on making sniper a projectile shot (as a small nerf)
I hope they're gonna fix the mine thing with the next patch
So were in paper 5
Wtf is that supposed to mean? You talking bout my rank lol? You might watch too much Jynxzi my boy
Add voice chat icons to teammates on the tab menu?
people make no sense lol, you write a completely valid feedback message and their only response was some weak copy and paste about your rank lmao
Sniper really is only good in powershift, otherwise one of lights worst weapons. Really it needs a better scope and an accuracy buff. Then maybe we could think about nerfs.
text chat please
Restore Aim Assistš„
honestly, yea. Game's starting to feel kinda grey. They removed a bunch of tech, and it feels like it artificially flattens the game.
bruh the obvious solution is just to make it tick slower when standing still
Aha just dont think we should be buffing shit when LH1, fcar, and lewis are gamebreaking must pick itemsā¦.
@dry kiln I agree. They made a glass cannon glass almost unplayable and only lower skilled players don't feel the impact. They (devs) have been getting too much praise for making very stupid decisions
stop giving me challanges to play quick cash, i dont want to have to play that shitty mode ever again. honestly just remove quick cash alltogether
Does anybody think the riot shield are ridiculous I mean I shoot this guy in his back .. while his shield is facing forward and he barely tick like the damn shield is on his back even though it isn't... So ridiculous !
I just cannot fathom how embark is blatantly ignoring the cries for help from the community with their bottom of the barrel matchmaking. Day 2 of pleading with Embarks apathetic devs: PLEASE. STOP. MATCHING. NON-DIAMONDS. WITH. DIAMONDS. IT IS NOT FUN
imagine a mode where you carry a plush of the mascot and the objective is to carry as long as you can, the more time you carry it the more money you make.
either of these.
Or how about a extraction mode where you can "upgrade" the cash box to have more money which takes half the time of a extraction.
too many cheaters itll kill the game, riot shield needs a nerf, queue times and ranked skill queue needs addressing, how is a silver being matched with diamond players or even allowed to queue with diamond? its stupid and defeats the point of ranked, and why uis there no chat for the game? wtf is that
dear embark, why the fuck is there a full stack of cheaters in my quick play game? thanks
marketing campaign to bring new players in?
they nerf guns that are not op for absolutely no reason
I think this is something cool that I would love to be see implemented in to the game.
fucking relax dude
Why would riot shield need a nerf lol
This game would be so much more fun if it was only light and heavy. Medium is just a generic fps class and is so boring
Do some colab like Star Wars or something like this
(Star wars can be really cool)
They're taking a two week time to make a patch, lets just see how it goes after that has been released. They said they were addressing a lot of concerns, so lets stop running on like broken records about this stuff, until they possibly let us all down.
Additionally, anticheat is really pretty hard to figure out, ESPECIALLY with a free game. A lot of them don't go off player stats in case of false positives, so they try and detect cheat software on your computer. Something which cheat designers explicitly know and develop methods to hide their cheats from. Even when you manage to ban them, they can just make another account and go straight back into cheating in the comp mode for free.
Even reviewing accounts which have been reported can be hard, and takes a lot of time and hours if they're cheating in a more subtle way without clips or anything. Match results where a person hit a moderate amount of headshots and barely went positive, but somehow randomly started hitting all those headshots whenever they needed to clutch up, are hard to find data to conclusively support that. (Same with wallhacks a lot of the time, as those more often require actual clips to determine, and are REALLY easy to pretend like you don't have) A respected report system is very important, but people like my brother report people after every Fortnite game just for fuckin' killing him in a way he determined to be "sus" (had good gamesense)
The strongest alternative would be something like ring zero anticheat (If I'm naming it correctly) same kind of anticheat as genshin impact, which gives the finals access to alter and view literally every file on your PC. (which is problematic for entirely different reasons, and drives players away) But would allow the software to really easily catch cheaters.
overall, they're doing a decent job, and hopefully this new patch fixes a lot of this shit. Til then, please, god, chill out. We look like rampaging toddlers (myself included, lol)
when are you going to fix the bug where pyro grenade sticks to riot shield bug? or is it just intentional to punish shield users and give people a free kill?
Lights donāt get defibs sweaty plain and simple.
First positive step for an Anti Cheat is to Hardware & IP Ban players. Free game or not its harder to get around Hardware & IP Bans.** REVERT CLOAK BACK THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!!!** Take DEFIBS off Medium & Give the DEFIBS to Light to make Light more of a Team utility. It also makes players pick a more balanced Class team cos if u want Heal & Defib u gotta have both a M & L class on ur team.
Power Shift is infested with lights and snipers. The last time I genuinely liked the mode was the easter mode, where people only were allowed to play assigned gadgets. While it removes freedom to chose how to play, it'll still bring fun in return.
I just don't see a solution in Power Shift being fun without having something similar with the easter mode. The mode is extremely fun but it's fustrating because spam of light players. The mode needs more diversity in classes and gadgets.
I'm scared of collabs as it could quickly go into fortnite/lego territory and break the game's style, which I love personally.
give us a skill based match made mode that doesnt take a fucking hour to complete, i dont want to commit an entire hour just to get a higher chance at non tarded teammates
Got a goofy little video of me being absolute ass at the game during the winter event, also bring back kbm on console with ibmm. Thanks.
ooh that cancel idea seems sick. It would also be insane if you can use it to pull people towards you. This would be perfect for sledgehammer mains who find it hard to catch up to their enemies
@solid narwhal YESS EMBARK PLS BRING KBM BACK TO CONSOLE
please make bullet travels more real, to avoid brutal cheaters ruining the game.
I don't know If I have the contract bugged but I did 5400 of support with a Medium build and it only gave me 600 of progress, is that normal?
Heavy just ran into my bubble shield pointed his rpg at his feet killing me while taking 0 damage fix your game
i want red hair pls, can't dress up my character like bloom from winx club smh
both of these people wanted to do nothing but talk shit about what i was doing the entire match, but couldnt do a fucking thing. how is this skill based matchmaking? fix this dog shit matchmaking. sat there AFK for the first 20 seconds of the match to smoke a bowl which clearly fried their brains
Reduce ROF and increase damage of V9s
Embark i love you and the decisions your making, but please dear god make a mode thats not so team oriented
as a light main since day 1 reaching diamond 1 as well..
SH1900 feels useless right now
CLOAK nerf was rough but cloak is still viable, however i think testing around 18%-25% activation cost instead of 33% would be a little better
LH1 m1 garand animation/skin pack or any skin with animations would be amazing
SWORD is a littleeee powerful, there is a bug where the charge time can basically be bypassed as well (needs fixing)
the class works well in all game modes, however this is just my opinions and maybe could be taken into consideration in future updates, much love!
pls add text chat
GET THE OLD RANKED SYSTEM BACK! This system doesn't make any sense! I make better game than my friend! We play ranked together all the time and he ranks up while i don't! I have more kills, more combat score,more objective, more assists, more revives and less death AND STILL STAY THE SAME FUCKING RANK AFTER WE WIN A WHOLE TOURNAMENT
Pls add option to disable melee aim assist / auto lock on
Hi devs. it would cool to be able to see your friends rank
You can when you queue up with them?
We need haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 āļøš®āšØ and 120hz support for xbox and PlayStation you have a huge following on console we jus need more love fs
the LH1 is not broken at all, its on the class with the least amount of health, the TTK it has is more than justified. If anything about it needs to be changed, its making its firerate worse in exchange for more damage per shot so it can't be spammed at close range. Or its mag capacity reduced. There is no other nerfs it should receive when it loses to the XP users already unless you hit headshots, but that's the point of it being a precision weapon.
I suggested this too, badly needed. Ranked when not in a party is torture most of the time.
Is anyone also having a problem with earning less points in the rankings than their allies? for example, we are in the same ranking, I have a bigger k/d, objective and support, and we lost in the semi final, my allies gain 2 points and I lose one instead of gaining.. its frustating as hell š¦
are you the same rank as them
please š remove š the time limit š for reconnecting š when your team š has not š quit
Dude whoever cried about cloak needs to quit the game for real. If you can't see cloak, you need to find a new game. Its 100% visible from basically 30 meters or closer and ya'll just whined and whined and whined it into the ground. And also get better servers and fix your hit reg. Everybody is sick of dying increasingly further behind cover.
Add text chat
I really hope the new update has communication features and general social features. Like yea, new game mode is fantastic, but it's like a band-aid to a larger problem. Make the game feel more alive by lettin' people group up, chat, etc
its because dudes are running with like ultra DLSS upscaling applied and it makes smaller details harder to see. just play without upscaling and its easier to see cloak
nerf the fucken model shotgun
Have no issue seeing invisibles too. Might be the graphics?!
youre trash
Few things pls bring haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 and 120hz for xbox and ps also buff light and especially revert invis back it was barley fine before but unplayable now, way less fun then it used to be. But we need haptics fr and the lights need more love
Hello can we please track heals and assists
I'm eternally tired of cheaters.
They've been here since Closed Beta 1, but now, as it stands since launch, the cheaters are numerable and out in full force. Rage hacking is frequent. A cheater team stacked with at least two normal players and a cheater sticks out in a lobby extremely easily, requiring the other three teams to play diffferently and avoid them, or even collectively team on the cheater team. This happens way too much to my friends in particular, content creators I follow who grind the game at top 50, and teammates who I want to make Diamond with.
I don't want to hear a "Security Improvement" every patch. I want an actual statement that the anti-cheat and monitoring of cheaters skyrocket into an actual effective tool. Way too many times, I run into these kinds of cheaters, making ranked a dice roll rather than an actual competitive environment. I report these kinds of players all the time, and yet, they don't get banned. I've also heard this constantly from people I know.
Enough is enough with cheaters. I've ran into them twice in a short session tonight, and that's just tonight.
This is really starting to get on my nerves I'm trying to finish my challenge do a 1,000damage from a distance 100 or more nothing I do gets me past 320 of 1000 and I just did a match using the sniper weapon on the light character in a match and I got some kills in and it's nothing counted
Iāve been very upset with the sbmm and just how the matchmaking works too⦠I get teammates who are in my level or worse., but Iām always somehow against three stack diamonds who dominate the game
Nerf fcar
Nerf Lewis nerf heal beam nerf rpg
What a amazing suggestion, just downgrade the game to have a chance at not dying to a invisible person. Maybe they should just make it possible to see invis people when they move no matter what. Itās not hard, plenty of games of balanced invis, like halo for example.
Getting to round 3 at least and still ranking down is fucking bullshit bro what is this game
We need assist count as kills
Yes. I know they probably shouldnāt copy over watch but something like what they have would be good
remove low gravity
Can we add āGgā to the wheel where thanks and defending are
ā its fire

Why? 128 DMG per shot is totally fine, paired with tightest spread I've ever seen for a shotgun. Who needs a RPG with 140 DMG....
Please give us back unranked tournament or a proper standin for ranked warmup/the actually better developed game structure. Cashout does not fill that role because the tempo changes so much when people are only fighting for first instead of first or second. Quick cash is overwhelming with 3 teams on one point, much better suited for team v team play like in tournament structure. But I'm also cool with casual/chaotic modes. Just need the properly structured ones back...
Skin/Bundle Concept Ideas
⢠Friendships and Rainbows item bundle:
A rocking horse emote,
Unicorn Flamethrower,
The reload is you just petting the unicorn (petting for tactical reload, flicking it's horn for empty reload,)
Outfit consisting of primarily glitter and a headwear that's a horn
And a unicorn barfing rainbows as a sticker.
The flamethrower can make a shimmer noise instead of the fire.
ā¢Yknow those urban camo ghillie suit things w the trash as the camo? What about that as a an outfit?
An intro could be you downing a can of Ospuze and slapping it on your head
Sledgehammer skin could be a pvc pipe w a 12pack soda box on the end
And a recycle sticker.
It could be called the Dumpster Dominator bundle.
It can also have a revolver skin where it's sorta like one of those water bottles that kids used to twist until it popped, yknow? The bottlecap would be the bullet.
Plus some design changes to give it proper sights and whatnot.
Empty reloading would just be tossing it and grabbing a new one out of nowhere.
Tactical Reload would be screwing on a new cap.
You could also see smoke/steam (don't know which one it is, im dumb) coming from the top!
Nerf miner
Stun shouldn't remove existing momentum
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/18oskkz/i_turned_the_ai_announcers_into_a_texttospeech/?rdt=51252 add this in season 3 and make it toggleable like naughty commentors
Skin/Bundle Concept Ideas Cont.
ā¢Lumberjack outfit, give everyone plaid and overalls with a scratchy, orange beard and beanie
Axe Sledgehammer skin
Chopping wood intro/emote
ā¢Astronaut bundle
Classic astronaut outfit
Either planting a company sponsor flag or pulling up on a rover.
A futuristic-ish sniper rifle
Or M60 w solar panels on the mag and lil radars and thingamabobs on it.
ā¢Moving on
Mothman bundle
Lamp Sledgehammer
Hooded outfit with red eyes
Emote could just be the player admiring a bug zapper before poking it and zapping themselves (credit to Riverina for suggestion)
We need lvls after 50, even if they give no rewards. a lvl to have like in VALO to give SOME reason to push xp and do dailys
Weapon pick maximums maybe???? I just had a game with 4 lights on the opposite team each carrying a sniper and every one of them were hiding in an unreachable position unless you have grapple and all they did was snipe people stopping us from reaching the platform. They did not participate in the actual game gameplay but rather they decided to play clicking simulator???
Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)
What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.
You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost Ć· items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.
It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```
Blowdarts/Blowpipe
(Potential Light Weapon)
Do damage over time (similar to gas)
60DMG/1DART (10 base damage per hit + 50 damage over time, potentially 2 seconds.)
Aim Down Sights would just focus on center of the screen/the end of the pipe
30 meter maximum range
3 darts before reload
Reload time: 2.5 seconds (tactical and remote reload are the same time)
Problem: lh1 is better in every single way
Could be a gadget rather than a weapon
Progression bar with actual numbers to see how far we are from the next rank this is ridiculous you dont have that information available.
Hope the DEVs drop a good balance patch this week. Frustration is strong right now.
Maybe a Part II next week too.
i cant be excited for a new gamemode when there are so many issues with balance and cheaters as it is. Another game mode that is once again looking to be so different to the rest only make for more of an isssue on balancing across modes. The kill cam mine triggering glitch is still here and has been for weeks now, emote canclling still here, cheaters in 70% of the lobbies i come across, frequent crashes and issues with ranked. let alone crossplay being a must have on now to even get a game. please fix the issues, give us a strong foundation to then grow from
Please add Assist counts as kill.
Its so annoying when a mate steals a kill after i got him to 1hp
Queue times on ranked now are ridicusly long. It's what happen when you add cheats in game (invisibility) and your'e full of cheaters and people stop play... That's sad.
make the arena masters voicelines a bit louder so we can hear them. also add scotty and june voicelines for steals made in the last 10 seconds. for example: Incredible last second steal by the socialites, scotty I bet they are going to be talking about that one.
The fumigator (the gas mask that is part of the contam conture set) is not able to have hats on with it unlike the other 2 gasmasks that can be worn with hats pls let us ware hats with it š¦
have a way to save outfits and switch between them easily without having to create a separate class/build
That's literally the entire point. Your complaint is actually a Digital Commerce tactic.... They can upsell you 1 20$ bundle because you want one thing in a bundle of 5 useless things, but because it's 5 things they charge you 20 instead of 5. This has been an industry standard since WOW days back in 2012
New ranked system should be reverted back to its old system
Why don't they just add this to the tracking dart therefore making it more viable due to overtime dmg to user
people keep quitting after they die 2-3 times and this is the 13th time that i remain the only one playing in my team. i can't keep playing like that.
I am crazy or my rank just keeps on decreasing even getting into round 3?
SKINS THAT LOOK LIKE THESE
I want to be able to use FSR3
āPlease replicate this until due attention is paid:
š„ Add to game:
Global chat
Dm message to added friends
( Increase the social immersion of the game )
Return the ranking points
( To have a better idea that we are not stuck in the same place )
Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
( Good for players to train gunfight and see which weapon is better, make casual players feel free to rank and etc... )
hell yeah give me a nokia sword
it only shows the movement of the last round. so even if you gain points in previous rounds, if you lose point at the end, it will show down ward arrow. so your total gained points soud be positive in reality. note this is just the comunity hypothesis; nobody really know how it works
Can you go back to the ranked system in beta with less players in one tournament? I cant find matches because im still in the placement matches (4/8) and I cant even queue on saturday and sunday evenings (EU)
Besides the gameplay and rank mechanics , a crossover event would be cool (cosmetics only), for instance an anime like bleach or a game crossover like uncharted
I like the season 2 OST but i recently lissend to the season 1 OST and rememberd all the sparkle the music got and the motivation it gives to play the game,
i would love for an option to change the game's current OST #
Nokia 3310 throwing knives š
Bro I had SAME feelings yesterday when I heard s1 music, I think it must return
Fix the Leaver problem Im getting tired of people who leave the game to have no punishment because I had 5 games in a row where I either started the match with not a full team or more then half the team left because they either died to much and raged quitted or are team is having troubles taking the objective and they think that leaving the game is a better solution and because one person leaves the domino effect happens and my other team member/members leave now too
does anybody have the same experience that cash out mostly turns out in one objective and not two anymore? I hate when that happens, its way to chaotic if all teams are fighting on the same cashout. I quit this gamemode because of this, its just not fun anymore...
BRING BACK THE CLOSED BETA SLIDE. combat becomes very stale, especially with this ttk (not implying the ttk needs changing). I really like how the finals has a sandbox approach to things but the sandbox aspect definitely lacks in face to face combat. Also more airstrafe control would be nice as well as being able to crouch mid air for hurtbox compression. The new (post cb) movement system feels very unresponsive and sluggish. Please more ground to air momentum conservation. Client side movement, reducing or removing jumpsquat frames, and making chain jumps eat less of your momentum away. Also increase the mantle animation speed as well as add a crosshair indicator or smth for a mantle-able object. omnidirectional sprint and slide as well. Remove the damage multi (i think 0.4x or smth) on unactivated mines, breaches or c4's. The pocket sand and cl40 mine stuff was nice but sad to see it gone, removing this was kind of a statement that the sandbox approach the game initially had is starting to fall apart. Nukes were honestly pretty cool (even as a light player), outright removing it was a bad play as it removed the "monkey ingenuity" aspect to the game linking back to what I said earlier about embark and the sandbox approach to the finals
The game lacks movement on all classes on all classes, especially light (light=sans where low hp but good dodging to make up for it, simultaneously the highest and lowest theoretical hp pool). maybe some xdef stuf as well as wall kicking would be nice, nothing like titanfall 2 or anything, just something to give the players another dimension of control during fights. In a head on 1v1, whoever aims the best wins, but if movement was introduced it would allow for players to also use it to dodge enemy fire.
Make the game WAYYY more stressful. i want it to feel more like i'm actually there, the trailers have communicated that but the game so far hasnt shown that. more crowd engagements.
EMBARK STOP LISTENING TO THE WHINERS
APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 15 of asking)
Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever
Suggestion:
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
side note: for the love of RN-Jesus just let me play with my fav gun cl-40 Without a aps fcking me over.
Like How are you suppose to kill someone WHO CAN"T TAKE DAMAGE??? its like playing riot shield without the shield
(embark pls fix
)
Still present the bug that make you unable to shoot with Heavy! Also i respawned with the same glitch
remove low gravity
Remove lights from the game
low gravity is one of my favorites, itās super fun in casual idk if your a ranked player or smth I think people are saying it sucks in ranked
@quick coyote nice pfp
Is dislike all the timers. Battlepass, weekly challenges. All that fomo. It makes me not want to play. Since I won't finish half of it and the progress will be wiped. A system where battlepasses and challenges are permanent like in Helldivers 2 is just better.
Helldivers2 is 60$ tho
Do you want to improve this crap matchmaking and ranked? How is it possible even in higher ranks to find completely poor and brain dead people! You should make the rank more strict! I repeat, I don't understand why there are such poor people even on platinum and diamond! you are killing a gaming masterpiece. It's absurd how many poor, selfish people who don't play as a team. I always get afk, people who die by jumping down, people who look like they opened the game yesterday but are in gold and or higher ranks. I don't know why this game is becoming the worst garbage. It's a shame because it's a beautiful game but at this rate it's destined to die and the usual 4 stoned fanboy children who will always say that the game is just like this will play it.
anybody having long Q times for being unranked and trying to play ranked for the first time?
The search and destroy game mode wonāt make it off the ground if the gunplay and matchmaking isnāt fixed first
agreed
Data reshaper
Hi. I have a game mode idea which is basically League of Legends's Clash game mode. For those who are unfamiliar, it is a seasonal game mode where you are forced to queue fully as a team, and then you take on other teams in a tournament format. The further you make it in a tournament, the more skin rewards you get. Players in a team can also wager in game points so that their rewards are greater.
Obviously the tournament mode is already in place to create this. However, twists can be put to make this more interesting such as implementing a banning phase of maps, custom team names, etc. The main difference between this and the original ranked mode is that it's seasonal with all teams being queued together, and most importantly, skin rewards.
i say again & again that :
pls remove sniper in ranked because in all elo , the mates camp with this piece of shiet weapon , we play 2v3.....
Bring the new mode this week but push the patch for fixes etc next week. It's better to take sometime and come with best AC and other fixes than shitting again with rush patch that causes servers crash, suspension etc. just saying š
Game bad
I finally met cheaters after 100+hours of gameplay. I met 3 cheaters in total, 2 today cheaters in a row in different games, at freaking 8am in the morning
Thereās been a couple of times where either me or my teammates are getting stuck in rubble and canāt do anything to get out. This hasnāt happened much at all and really only two or three times that I can remember in the past week and I play this game a lot. Iāve also had people on my team who canāt heal when using the heal beam. For sone reason itāll bug out and wonāt work one match but then perfectly fine the next. Keep up the good work though Embark!
Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp
What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.
You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost Ć· items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.
It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```
Please buff weaker weapons like the 93R, SH1900, Dagger, Famas, KS-23, MGL. There are a lot of weapons that are decent as well but just aren't as rewarding compared to the ease of use and effectiveness of automatics. This should be looked at as when automatics are easy to use, forgiving, and also top damage options no one will realistically use higher risk weapons that can only perform on par if not worse.
do reports actually work in game? i've reported so many times and didn't get any feedback
These are the worst Fucking cheaters in Asia server. Right now I am in A ranked game. Huya_ManGi#5141 HuaLiu_Zui_Diao#3319 DouYin_WanAnFPS#2811, All Diamond players all hard cheating, There is a goo gun cheater that instantly goo locks you in place from a mile away without even needing to see you. We are in the finals match right now and they won't Put the box in, because they want us to quit, They are wasting 16 minutes. Please See this screenshot, THEY ARE GREIFING. https://ibb.co/CWYNWDf . They won't put the cashbox in, They just goo and shoot / grief, Waste time hacking on Asia server. This is the state of The finals in Asia server. Just everyone griefing and most of the diamond players are cheaters.
nerf flamethrower
Shitter detected
@keen lily yes it's real noob shit.
Diamond 1 player here. Flame thrower is fine, donāt get into that range and donāt stand too close to each other up. If all else fail and they catch up on you, stop running away. Stay still and just try your best to headshot them because at that point you wonāt escape alive so your best hope is to out dps them (which trust me, most gun can do this) and if not, then most of the time your friend can finish them off (assuming you guy donāt stray too far from each other) @keen lily @arctic sigil @vestal coral
Fix the godawful hit detection. Emptying a full mag in someone's head at 2m away shouldn't only take 2 bars of health off a medium. Also fix the backfilling. I get put in to games that's 30 seconds long. Not to mention when one of my teammates drop, even at the start, his spot will NEVER get filled. Same goes if the 2nd teammate drops. It's essentially 1v3v3
Game is constantly crashing for me on PC
please fix your queing embark we're going against diamond 3s, two full ranks above my own and three above my teammate
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
- While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
- Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
- Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
- Increase damage from 84 to 90
- Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
- Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)
ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:
- This would help them to compete
IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:
- Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger
FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:
- Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
- Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
- Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta
REDUCE RATE OF FIRE AND INCREASE DMG AND RANGE A BIT FOR V9S!!!!
Yo any staff that can help me with my account
how much you make me laugh, you who are self-proclaimed experts, just because you have a diamond rank š, you are annoying and clowns. Nobody asked your opinion, you only speak to show off that you are diamond hahaha. However, I know how to counter and avoid a flamethrower, I know the game and I'm also a good player, but you fake experts assume that others don't know how to play. The flamethrower is a fine noob weapon. And in any case being in a certain rank doesn't mean anything, it doesn't mean you understand video games or balancing. You are boring every time someone rightly complains about weapons and gadgets that are shit, you come with your advice and opinions as if you are better than others. You have to be quiet for a while. Maybe you did it with good intentions and you didn't want to be arrogant, in fact the message is not aimed primarily at you, but in general at all those who feel like experts who have the duty to annoy anyone with their opinions who don't give a damn about Nobody.
start refunding ranked points lost if a winning team is found to have a cheater, im tired of having to work 8x harder because theres cheaters every damn tournament in asia, you take 10 steps forward and 9 back its so tiring tournaments are too long to have to deal with being griefed like this its already bad enough most oce and asia players have not been able to earn diamond cosmetics since closed beta because of cheaters
Who ask?
Itās a chat dedicated to giving opinion regarding balances.
So ofcause, Iām allowed to speak out my opinion even if it oppose someone else.
Anyway I spoke out because I think what make the final great is unconventional weapons like riot shield, cl-40, throwing knife, and flame thrower. I hate to see more fun weapon get nerf.
I understand flame thrower doesnāt require any skill to aim but thereās some skill like positioning, game sense, and team coordination required to pull it off well.
I assume since you begging dev to nerf it.
(without much detail aside from the fact that you think itās a noob weapon, mind you)
I thought you donāt know how to play against flame thrower and why would you, itās a weapon that is barely used compare to Lewis gun and whatās not.
And lastly
Iām sorry that mentioning my rank make you think Iām calling you a bad player. I just want to give credibility to my advice.
Please donāt be so mean
^^ā
In the end, we all want a better gaming experience together as a community
They cant and wont do anything. They didn't learn from any of the lessons from all the FPS games. They didn't include phone verification, No CN Ban. I am Plat 1 / Diamond 4 max in Asia server. Cheaters In every. Single. Fucking. Round. Asia server is completely shit
guys they dont gaf about your feedback you're wasting your time here
you guys always dismiss the problem and some it up to just skill issue, like yeah i can use the data reshaper but what about heavy and light? you're not seeing the full scope of thing here
I like how you can get this cow for free.
Hey, only recently begun playing, and noticed that there isn't any way to compare stats to weapons unless you go back and forth between the gun. in light of this please look into a way that either a drop down menu is accessible or use a two tone bar graph showing the stats of a currently equipped weapon vs the stats of a weapon that you are hovering over in the "equipment" menu. love the game, thank you for your time
take out set
-pizza emote (open box outwards with steaming pizza)
-logo sticker
-pizza boy outfit (like the home alone one)
(light jeans, white jacket, red hat, red gloves, default shoes,
-pizza eating gesture
-pizza company jingle sound
-waist wallet satchel
Light is the class that deals with flamethrower the best what
yeah, i agre
Then why do lights complain about it so much?
I don't want to be mean, I'm just tired of people wanting to feel superior to others. Too many feel like experts.
Also: If an APS is destroyed, make the cooldown start there? You have one APS, and you can move it around anytime with the same health, but once it's destroyed, you have to wait a bit. That would make it a lot harder to control a point for so long like keeping the platform so locked
Guys please add a KILLCAM so many people are calling ppl cheaters and they're probably just worse than them
lets add another game mode and keep ignoring the glaring issues with the game
game mode that will die in a week but they'll force us to play it for weekly challenges
Consider a "Protected Ranked mode" or "Protected platform" with kernel grade anti cheat and keep the normal ranked mode or normal platform
So the conspiracy tinfoil heads can still play the game with cheaters
And us normal player can finally play the game
Right now on asia server there is cheater every game ,99% the people i played with,even the die hard fans are quitting or already quit the game bc of cheaters
This will be a great game if just improve the anti-cheat alone,balance can be worked on later,all the flaws can be worked on later
This insane cheating problem needs to stop
Was it UE5 errors?
I highly approve of this, instead of adding copycats gamemodes focus on fixing the anticheat and annoying bugs, like healing beam not healing, the infinite reload glitch, the "can't run" glitch
The finals admin on YouTube always deleting my comments about cheater, smh.
Where do I go to ask for help? I canāt load into a game because I get a message that says āanti cheat integrity at riskā or some shit?
can someone connect me with a staff member, my account email was swapped
Hoping this update comes with a rank fix
Hopefully this new mode isn't just filled with snipers only š
Why are people using this chat to debate and whine either about balancing issues or cheaters? neither of those are feedback. its complaining about issues that should be argued over in Weapons-gadgets (because if a weapons ttk isnt matched with a player model typ i.e. Light, heavy, Meadium, then complain that the weapon isnt balanced in accordance with it's class) and report cheaters as you encounter them. Dev's aren't responsible for hackers, and you see them in every. single. game.
Hey. The new mode looks cool. I do hope it has limited weapons though so they can prevent light snipers every match
cloak is too weak now.
9 contestant slots, option to disable melee auto-lock, nerf FCAR, LEWIS, and LH1 into the ground just so I can use something else and not feel like I'm actively throwing for going off-meta.
Or maybe, the patch with it will ALSO contain fixes and adjustments. Stop being so negative dammit.
**diversity is good embark, dont listen to the whiners
try out new stuff thats how you gather community and playerbase**
glad were branching out of respawn gamemodes
I highly suggest adding own balance for Terminal Attack mode as it gonna be hard to balance it with the rest of the game
can you remove the hitboxes from people getting defibbed please so people cant hide behind or accidentally do so
Okay cool...So you added a super sweaty new game mode. Now could we please actually have some kind of co-op mode in the not so distant future? Like a tower defense where you protect a vault from a horde of enemies while being able to set up defenses on the map? Or maybe, just maybe if you wanna keep it simple, give us a VS AI playlist with moderate progression. This would help the casual parts of the playerbase dramatically and it'd be great for those with less free time on their hands.
So for this new game mode, when they say "no healing" do they mean no passive healing? Or also no heal gun? Same for revives. Is there no defib?
but does the game crash or frame lag for you too? And do the games become unplayable?
I would like to see 1000 VRs re-roll on Circuit Contracts because I only play Bank It so I'm never stealing 15 cash outs.
I feel that would make everyone happy.
The new terminal attack mode is very hard to balance. Sniper marksman cloak turrets rpg and no healing combined feels like too much mistake penalty within this chaos environment. There would definitely be someone like it. But not everyone in this game really thinks when play. And I doubt it would bring new players. I just suggest Embark make a double plan which includes a more Arcade mode with normal rules but faster respawn.
yes i think so too, variety is good, whiners always find a reason to whine š„²
can't wait to try this out!!!
sniping is going to be an issue but other than that im excited. new challenge, new tactics needed, thats all.
please add kill cams
new game mode looks fun. Would love to see a 5v5 ranked system. Powershift is fun and all but a lot of the appeal is lost due to it being a casual only mode.
lmaoo gadamn
My feedback: I love you embark and your game slaps and my friends and I love it šš¼
new gamemode looks great. me as r6 player i love it. my sugestion for the finals is that iam solo player and would love to see some permanent solo mode
The fact, that there are still people hard on aim botting with season 1 battlepass cosmetics is insanity. Possible they just started cheating, which could explain it i guess. Still, kindly annoying to have to deal with not even just new accounts rage cheating in Diamond+
Egg throwing knife skin. Thanks
I wonder how a FFA would function
SUGGESTION: In battlefront 2, you have several game modes, that can be difficult to choose between, instead they added a randomiser which randomises the gamemode you would play. That would make it more fun to que up and would even out the player activity across all modes. Then the question would be, but how would a party play get into the same match? Simple, the party leader is the deciding factor
This new game mode looks super hype. I am all for having more 5v5 modes for those days where all of my friends are on at the same time. Keep it up embark!
woah, I am glad there is new updates! š
I hate playing light please stop making me play light in these contracts as a solo i hate being useless on my team and I SUCK WITH LIGHT
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Cheating in the Asian region is HEAVY. You need proper anti cheat as a decent number of players over there dont give af 
Reroll!
Aww, yeah. A lot of people here does act like theyāre some sort of genius game dev. But Telling people to shut up or calling their opinion stupid wonāt really help you convince them to your side. If anything, it just reinforce more toxicity in our chat :,3
Just focus on remembering that they all meant well for the game And give plenty of reason why you believe something should be the way they are :3
Damn is that anti-cheat costy cuz i gotta say im not hitting diamond with every my promotion game is with a cheater
Yea
Is āconsole only Crossplayā ever coming back so I can stop getting crushed by kb+m players?
Recently ive strted playing again and i wanted to ask, are they planning on removing the aps turrets total counter to the grenade launcher? Like if they put it down i lose and its just not fun
great so this new gamemode is once again soooo different from the other modes that they are making the job of balancing even harder. im happy with new modes but we need some form of consistency and balance. let alone no revives and no health when the lobbies are filled with aimbot
Day 47 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.
- 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
- 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
- Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
- bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
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- significant damage to structures and players
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- gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
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- high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
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- its a goddamn minigun
- - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
- - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no āpocket minigunā strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
- - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
Is it just me or has the heavy gotten taller?
Iām incredibly hyped
bro didnt they say ranked would be rank based in s2
option to switch between season soundtracks in the lobby, etc.
Petition to remove the sniper
Embark take a note of helldivers success with the ability to get in game currency maybe we can trade in 3k vrs for 25-50 multi bucks or get them for challenges. Just suggestions skins are a bit pricey š
seems the community is mixed on it now. I get itās a free game but Iām buying every battle pass and usually 20$ per season so I can get a cool skin bundle.
Additionally arrow head has a great idea of how they roll out new content as part of in game lore. Embark is really mysterious and doesnāt communicate well.
I would really wish to see more communication from the devs. What do they think of the state of the game? What do they think compared to closed beta in regards to gameplay and balancing. Whatās the future and vision for the game etc
How can we play ranked when we face the same hacker 2 times in a row with 18k headshot damage using lewis gun at the other side of the map, this is becoming unbearable honestly, There is nothing useful out of the reports we do every single game ?????!!!!!!
And why this is cheating?
respawn system should be changed
mkay, im done with this game, been over 2 weeks since i had a round without aimbotters peace guys
Honestly, if your team steals a cashout it should count for the circuit/daily challenge. There is nothing more frustrating then whiping a team and having your sniper light who did absolutely nothing grapple fling himself past you and steal it after....
Respawning is so fucktrash in this game, they might as well spawn you in a completely different game
APS Is annoying, but you can shoot it, turn it into a chair, charge and slam it, Dmat it down, glitch grenade it if the grenade lands outside the radius, but close.
Nerfing it will make it a completely unviable option in the medium kit entirely
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Focus on the ANTI cheat, stop with this cosmetics and game mode shit, fix your anti cheat first
dawg just focus on bugs n anticheat please
I agree anti cheat should be the main focus. Iād be glad to buy the game to keep it from the free to play cheater roulette
Finals is a free game, helldivers is not, the fact you can pay or grind for the new passes in helldivers is not an upside in its favor when it already costs money to get into
100%, I've been looking at those glowing blue eyes from the neon cowboy pack for a while now, but I don't want anything else in that pack
and their community work went down the drain a lot too lol
Guys, why does the "No Shoot" glitch still exist
People that work on cosmetics arent the same people that fix anticheat
bro just shoot just outside of the ap's radius with the nade launcher. It blows up super quick. Other classes can just shoot it since it doesn't block bullets. Game needs an anti nade spam tool and it does the job just fine without being busted
the "community work went down" in question is just people whining over nerfs in a pve game
Here's my feedback. stop listening to us idiots. Every change that has been made to appease a crying community has been bad. Closed alpha 2 was peak balance. I say wipe everything and reset to that or start making your way back there. YOU guys are the devs, YOU guys know how to make a game, WE do NOT. We know how to play a game noooot balance a game. Keep it up guys despite our seeming frustration it comes from a place of love for this game! ā¤ļø
new game mode is boring waiting for round super boring like search and destroy. i thought it would be like rush or frontline in battlefield 1
bro u haven't even played it, why are u already complaining
hasnāt even released and someone is already bitching about it
Do you really think that the team that works on the cosmetics is the same that works on the anti-cheat? š
Hi, i play on xbox series s and i suddenly get random fps drops (most of them during pvp situations) and i have to restart the game to āfixā the issue
The sniper needs faster bolt action to make it usable
Yes it's been happening since S2. Waiting for a fix .
@sharp jasper
you can shoot it
not with cl-40 and mgl32
(unless you count chip damage shots, but if you go for those you will be dead by the time its gone)
turn it into a chair
data reshaper is pretty situational in my experience
you basically have to handicap yourself to be allowed to play the game at all
charge and slam it
you need to be withing melee range for that, that's not always a given
and you don't know if the enemy even has aps
so you must take it at all times, just in case the enemy has it
that applies to all "just use x items" arguments
they turn the game stale and force you to use stuff you don't like to even play at all
Dmat it down
again, need to be close and you give up heals/turret
Nerfing it will make it a completely unviable option in the medium kit entirely
i don't think so
lets say it deleted like 6 projectiles, think of the value you get
2 frags, 1 pyro and a gas nade and there is still value left to be gained
and none uses all 3 slots for grenades
you can pretty much deny an entire teams worth of throwables with 1 slot
sure, going from infinite to 6 is a hefty nerf
but in this case it would turn it from way better than most gadgets to a competetive choice
sure, now cl-40 and mgl32 can spam it out but its still enough to cheese most 1v1s against them
it remains powerful but now people actually get to play the game
@arctic lily its not just about if you can destroy it, its also about the effect it has until its gone
see replied message
Game needs an anti nade spam tool
maybe it does, but it shouldn't prevent players from playing the game and cheese 1v1's
V9S: Reduce rate of fire. Increase damage to compensate. Slightly increase range
So, Rainbow Six: Siege is the latest game mode? Are we just trying to see if The Finals can be some other FPS shooter?
my only issue is that it seems like light is gonna be even more useless in it than in normal que, lmao. (Unless they fix light with the patch it's released in)
and except for maybe sniper light, if you open up certain sightlines
I mean attack and defend modes have been around for a while not really copying to me
nerf damage on sword alternate attack, same damage as a full rpg makes no sense
im freakin HYPED for the new game mode
We need a Warzone like battle royale of the finals
150 damage for a throwing knife to the head is way to much, at least 149 or something. No way a rocket does 140 full damage as well as the frag grenade does 149. Thatās ridiculous
fix matchmaking
i agree and disagree. it's a lot of damage, but it's also a tricky weapon to use. a good player would kill you in seconds with throwing knives, but other than that it's not much of an issue due to lights health. one shot and they basically die
Yeah a lot of people hate to think, they just wanne shoot and have fun. I think therefore tdm would fit into this game as a gamomode
for sure, I'd love to see FFA too
take out set
-pizza emote (open box outwards with steaming pizza)
-logo sticker
-pizza boy outfit (like the home alone one)
(light jeans, white jacket, red hat, red gloves, default shoes,
-pizza eating gesture
-pizza company jingle sound
-waist wallet satchel
something like this:
it is crazy how supposed crowd control tools do ridiculous single target burst damage as well
Ditch Scotty and June for Terminal Attack and have the CNS Guy commentate instead (only in Terminal Attack)
Remove medium
Consider removing sniper from casual games, it needs communications for sniper to be effective team member, in casual no one uses comms, so its just a man down. And they're no very good
every single person I play with in diamond is saying the same thing, that after the last patch its almost impossible to gain even 1 arrow up unless you win. You even get a negative of 2 if you make it to the 3rd round. This has been happening since last patch
this game sucks old man balls my game crashes and takes forever to let me back in and when it finally does i can't ads and when the game is over i get three arrows down on ranking and a matchmaking suspension
The games respawn seriously needs to go back to how it used to be jesus christ spawning at the other end of the map as a heavy and you having to run all the way is such a tick off rn.
Pls make it so u canāt scope in with snipers whilst invisible. It makes it almost impossible hit them when they are invisible
Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from
In a rank que for 10+ minutes all the timeā¦.
Make the chat cooldown time 24 hours, and create a discussion chat for this channel. impossible to make any good points in this channel or suggestions when children (yes you) keep crying about things in the game that they dont like instead of suggestions for quality of life changes for the game itself. Allow for people to react to comments to see other peoples feedback on certain suggestions as well
make ranked system with visible points, not arbitrary arrows that dont work since being released
Heyyyy, I would REALLY love if there was a system to favorite skins and have them randomize between matches, apex legends does something similar and I have alot of skins I like for my weapns
or a way to have custom preset outfits you can swap between at the beginning of a match? probably a bad idea but an idea.
(alternatively, more loadout slots)
Please tone down the smoke and dust, it gets so bad on sunny maps, especially Vegas. On low settings I can barely see anything when people start blowing stuff up. I love Vegas, I think it's a great map and I love the variants, I liked "lasers and tripwires", I still like "duststorm", but sunny Vegas is just horrendous to play.
Itās kinda interesting to see how divided the players are reacting to the new game mode. A lot of people from the Asia server held a pessimistic opinion toward the new game mode, while people from NA/EU are hyped for it
I just hope the loadouts arent locked, I wanna go full assassin mode with the dagger
nerf cl40
Game would be better without medium
Hello devs. First of all thank you for the amazing game, I play almost every day youre game! I like it that sbmm isn't that strict like the new call of duty is and I hope you get more players because you totally deserve it! Please consider tdm gamemode where its just all about making kills and no objective because I believe that would bring new players in that come for example from cod and wanne play this game but don't like the competative gamemodes youre game provides. I know a lot of people are saying that bank it is like tdm but for me its not really the same because there is still a objective. Personnaly I dont mind to play gamemodes that are already in the game for now but I can see that teamwork and objective and long waiting to spawn is what is hurting youre playerbase (watched a lot of youtube videos where people say these things). So please focus on crancking youre playerbase and making it casual friendly. Good luck guys and again thanks for the amazing game. Love you guys!
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Hello Embark!! I feel the melee weapons auto locking onto people in the reviving animation is redundant. this is because if i can "see" him reviving, (in other words i am facing him,) then i am also aiming at him. the reason why this is a pain point worth talking about is because melee weapons, enemy teams attempting to defib, and the actual enemy teammate who is being revived are all in a close range scenario. in this scenario where an enemy is rushing to defib, the melee-player needs to attack the living enemies first before dealing with the people being revived. in real world gameplay, the melee-player will have situations where a swing is autolocked and wasted onto a invulnerable dead person in the revive state, while the intended living target is getting free shots on you. So not only is the enemy resetting his team, he is getting a free kill. this is unbalanced. in the event that i actually did want to hit the person being revived, it is alot more probable that i am also facing/pre-aiming at him - the autolock is not needed in this scenario where an enemy is being revived.
Can we make the rocket launcher have a 5 round magazine and make it automatic. Aswell as making the heavy 1000 hp.
BOBER HEY EMBARK! Hi pls add more options (customable)to the private lobby like: teams 2v2v2 4v4+party practice.. if it possible and host or mates can swap between teams.( add killcam to game....) THX
I mean with the movement it doesnāt matter about the health if theyāre dancing around like that, I donāt even think Iām asking for a hard neft either Iām js if youāre gonna make rockets doing 140 and grenades 149 then why in the blue fuck is a throwing knife insta killing me, like imagine a team of unsuspecting lights getting three tapped by someone, yeah it would look amazing and probably would be pretty sick but overall that sounds like a horrible experience, all theyād have to do is throw one more knife or even a quick melee and theyād finish the job, OR even the team their with could help finish the job. ALSO not to mention if you have someone who can throw grenades and shit AND do 150??? Embark tweaking for that one
New game mode sounds like more medium meta trash. Pass.
The mesh shield, barricade meta is not it man maybe it's just me
Been queued for 30 minutes in a console only server. This is more for the devs than anyone else; thatās completely wack.
? medium meta is literally healbeams, defib, and fcar. they took out two of those three already.
fair. movement is kinda nutty
Creator map mode ??
He didnt watch anything, just crying about his skill issue
Let's hope all the circuit challenges and dailies for the next 3 weeks are all Heavy challenges as that's what everyone will be playing in the new game mode
It hasnāt even been released yet, just let them release it and see how it goes. You might like it š„ŗ Meow
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Why are solos being paired up against stacks???????
How would a party of 2 even play then
i hate waiting rounds like search and destroy this game is fast we need gamemode like rush or frontline in battlefield 1
That is the reason we lost so many players imho. If you dont have 2 friends when you want to play this game you have nothing to do in the finals. They need some solo mods or teambased MM
I might be the first to ask for this and it very well might be impossible, but I think proximity chat would really suit this game. I don't understand why developers shy away from proximity chat so much in games. It might be because they think giving players opportunity to talk to their enemies will add fuel to toxicity, but honestly, I think it would do the exact opposite.
Battlebit was the last game I've played that has proximity chat. Instead of making me more toxic, the ability to speak to enemies mid game actually prevented my toxicity. Reminded me that enemies aren't faceless, evil ghouls, but real people who want to, and deserve to, win just as much as I do.
I really think the root of toxicity in gaming is the selfish desire to win above anyone else. And this selfishness is amplified by the fact that our enemies are faceless and mute. Barely human.
So in conclusion, by not having proximity chat you are preventing folks from spreading their selfish toxicity, but at the same time you are preventing the vast majority from spreading and fostering positivity, expressing their humor, making people laugh, and most of all fostering a tight community and good sportsmanship. I have 73 hours in battlebit and can't think of a SINGLE bad experience I had with proximity chat. The one time I can remember was when I WAS THE ONE who snapped at a player about using a gun that I didn't have unlocked yet and was very strong in the meta. I was pissed after dyeing to him a few times. But when he responded with "Oh ya, this thing is super strong rn" All that frustration meted away in an INSTANT. Just hearing his voice reminded me that this guy is just a guy like me and it brought humanity and civility back into the situation.
I think the lack of human empathy resulting from the segmentation of groups on the internet has been bad for gaming culture, and I believe proximity chat could help to bring back humanity, humility, and empathy. Thank you for listening to my ted talk lol
Why is my feedback deleted???
I think everybody experienced a lost game after someone quitting the game early. Why am i getting punished -3 arrows when im playing alone against full teams. Playing with randoms in ranked is 80% of the time no fun at all.
as a light main since day 1 reaching diamond 1 as well..
CLOAK nerf was rough but cloak is still viable, however i think testing around 18%-25% activation cost instead of 33% would be a little better
LH1 m1 garand animation/skin pack or any skin with animations would be amazing
SWORD is a littleeee powerful, there is a bug where the charge time can basically be bypassed as well (needs fixing)
SH1900 feels useless right now
the class works well in all game modes, however this is just my opinions and maybe could be taken into consideration in future updates, much love!
people cheating not banned since closed beta that can headshot through mesh blatantly 50 bullets in a row. what is anti cheat team cooking with the eac settings?