👂┇game-feedback

[dense fjord]

this is the worst thing i’ve ever read in my life, why is heavy dps higher than light 💀

[twilit wolf]

Agreed on Medium, I absolutely love playing as a healer but have to admit it feels a bit OP with what can be achieved using defib and healing beam

[earnest ermine]

Just fucking nerf lights health regen speed instead of all this crap of having it reduced every time an ability is used. Also the sword is fine and doesn't need to be made overly clunky with this reload crap

Please never come to this channel if you're gonna continue to spew this armchair game dev slop.

[twilit wolf]

rude, just because you disagree with someone's ideas doesn't mean you have to be so emotional about it

[toxic iron]

tldr: delete light

[toxic shadow]

nerf medium and heavy to a comporable power as light

[subtle oak]

Update today?

[lapis pollen]

Just give thoese heavies what they want. Delete light is better choice if devs still think light is viable.

[lunar bloom]

game is fine but i need some emotional support voicelines when i die to void

[twilit wolf]

Light is a class for specific situations, I think it's a garbage dump for idiot players who think teamwork is secondary, but it makes sense in serious matches where people understand what they are doing and how the game works

[uneven prism]

guys why are they not fixing the hud delay glitch the crane glitch what happend to the regular updates and fixes

[toxic iron]

pretty sure theres one coming out today

[twilit wolf]

I'm not experiencing such

[fickle linden]

Don't be mean about other people's feedback, it's ok to disagree nicely

[violet elbow]

if anything Light needs a health regen buff, the class is already 60% just sitting somewhere waiting to not be in oneshot range of an RPG or Shotgun

[random geyser]

every second spent while invis reduces regen delay by 0.5s i believe

[open summit]

Honestly analysing this whole thing the finals has the most brain dead community , all the broken claims are just people being biased for their favourite role and say to nerf the other ones, heavies want lights to be nerfed, lights want mediums to be nerfed, mediums want both to be nerfed like actually get a grip and play a role to the play style you supposed to be stop trying to 1v1 a heavy in a Mexican stand off you imbeciles hate me all you want but actually play the role you supposed to and watch it improve, the cry babies of this game are equivalent of 1v1 level 18 irelia while you're level 9 yummi

[raven gale]

Random: Would love if there was something to work towards after reaching level 50 and maxing out the BP. Even if there isn’t any real rewards after lv. 50 it’d be nice to still be able to progress. I enjoyed the weekly & daily challenges but now they feel unnecessary to complete.

[woven hawk]

After playing as a 🇱ight for over 9000 minutes I can say this.

Underpowered in ranked?
3 skill levels to look at, 2 reasons to balance them, and 1 factor that makes this tough to deal with.

For "new" and "average" players, Light underperforms compared to other classes. For skilled/experienced players, amazing.

Should it be buffed for the majority? Or not, because it already CAN be great? One thing that makes this tough is they dominate Bank It, a buff would make this worse. Possible "solution"? Improve sprint speed or SOMETHING on M & H in this mode. 💌

[quick coyote]

"9000 minutes" why not just say 150 hours?

[woven hawk]

because Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his p🇱aytime? IT'S OVER 9000 MINUUUUUUUTES!!!

[sudden tangle]

glitch grenade is so fking awkward to use, make it a sticky, or make it detonate on shield/gadget contact.

also L basically doesnt do anything better than M or H. H has faster ttk with auto shotgun, M is better at 1v1 fights. M guns hipfire are better than L ADS guns in a 1v1 within stun gun range. L has 150hp so it should be doing 1/3rd more damage than M and 2/3rds more damage than H, but it's actually doing equal or less.

@Bixo I'm not saying L does bad damage, but due to their HP it's too little damage. Why pick a class that can only off angle and never 1v1 if skill level is equal if you can just pick a class that has almost 3x the hp, same amount of damage almost (lewis gun) insante extra hp with shields and ofc aoe ranged secondary with rpg and a c4 that oneshots people straight up.

L is a class that works if you outskill ur opponent (duh). if you are roughly equal, H and M will always beat an L.

[peak fiber]

OK...whaterver other infuriating things in this game aside..... what causes your fire button to randomly stop working??? you have to switch weapons 3 or 4 times before it starts working again. and no.. it's not my mouse. it never happens in any other games. or any other times. I've encountered this issue only in this game a few times.

[glass forge]

all light needs imo is slightly faster regen for balance, people that are saying light doesnt do enough damage are missing their shots, itys a high skill gap class

[wanton creek]

All of your patch update fixes are hoax....

[peak fiber]

True.. I tried playing light and if you dont miss you absolutely melt the enemies. The thing is you have to learn how to play around them and not go straight at their face. I agree that there needs to be some rebalances but people crying lights being too weak just needs to put in a lot more hours and adapt a new gameplay style.
and about the rebalance part i mentioned, this game will be very hard to rebalance considering how diverse every option is. One thing I think will work is "Only one of the same role for each team." ie you can only have 1L, 1M, 1H each team.

[devout gull]

I'd love to see more game localizations for this game, outside of the bing languages.
||I wouldn't mind helping with czech ||

[subtle oak]

Anyone know if there is an update today or tomorrow?

[sudden tangle]

Season 2 NEEDS TO HAVE SOME LOVE FOR COMPETITIVE:

• Refine the matchmaking system, make it stricter, why can bronze and diamond queue together?!

• Add more ranks! Why is diamond 1 the top rank? Add Master, Grandmaster, Top 500/Challenger!!!

• Introduce MMR based FP gains!!!!!!

• Reduce RNG in competitive by promoting holding cashouts vs 3rd partying. Do this by making cashouts have 3 "ticks" and on each tick a meaningful amount of money is given to the team holding the cashout on top of final cashout sum

• Waaaaay more cosmetic rewards for ranked!!!!!! Add last season rank borders, add more competitive reward skins, give each class a reward for one of their guns, not just one, add emotes, add sprays, add voice lines, add fking whatever, just more rewards!

• Balance the competitive game! Very easy to do. Look at how often each class is reaching the final round (1v1 round) and then fking buff the classes that are underperforming. spoiler alert. It's the fking light class. aim for 33% for each class. Potential workaround is to introduce rolequeue (LMH) for ranked. That would help you with balancing the clases a lot at the tradeoff that we won't be seeing MHH, MMH, and MMM every fking where. (look up why GOATS meta was so popular in Overwatch. Survivability and HP diff always wins in competitive over whatever the fk L can do better?)

[quick coyote]

its why im asking for FCAR and Lewis nerf ever since i joined this discord, while shotguns and gl are lethal, you can still avoid them. the first two are in the current meta and a majority players are using them
i don't think buffing light weapons is best choice, just nerf these two to bring more parity amongst the others.
my main issue was a medium player, just sucks to play any weapon against FCAR, the headshot dps alone is ridiculous and barely has recoil while tracking players is so easy in this game.
i think FCAR and Lewis SHOULD have more damage and range to compensate the smaller mag, but it shouldn't be THE better option with that much damage. just reducing headshot dps and fire rate would already be a decent nerf to me

[sudden tangle]

Embark, I will spend ungodly amounts of money on this game if you acknowledge the poor state of competitive (lack of attention, balance, care, rewards) and actually show that you will care about the competitive side of this game. I am NOT interested in a casual game.

[jagged pike]

Or make it so the same spec can't equip the same items as others (If here are multiple)

[quick coyote]

So can we have a roadmap at least?

[sudden tangle]

Improve grenades. Make them cookable (R button). Make glitch grenades sticky.

[untold orbit]

you lost me when u said shotguns werent op

[spare cape]

Please add haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️ day 24 of asking 🥲we need it for next gen consoles please add it hopefully by next season

[quick coyote]

im almost never dying to a shotgun player in this game, shotguns are just doing their jobs at being decent in close range lol

[devout gull]

Shotguns are perfectly balanced and pretty hard to use

[sudden tangle]

sometimes i wonder if the devs actually read this.. or if writing here is just a wasted effort

[untold orbit]

wait until you get into high ranks

[shadow gyro]

beards

[spare cape]

We need haptic/adaptive trigger support ❗️ aiight ima go to bed now 🤣

[quick coyote]

Add map voting/add new maps. I never play Las Vegas even though it’s my favourite map

[novel kraken]

@fickle linden Have basic sense of Communications for an online platform game.Please Add Messaging /Chat Feature For Friends and Team As there is no way to communicate other than voice chat. @The Finals

[compact sleet]

Season 2 NEEDS TO HAVE SOME LOVE FOR COMPETITIVE:

• Refine the matchmaking system, make it stricter, why can bronze and diamond queue together?!

• Add more ranks! Why is diamond 1 the top rank? Add Master, Grandmaster, Top 500/Challenger!!!

• Introduce MMR based FP gains!!!!!!

• Reduce RNG in competitive by promoting holding cashouts vs 3rd partying. Do this by making cashouts have 3 "ticks" and on each tick a meaningful amount of money is given to the team holding the cashout on top of final cashout sum

• Waaaaay more cosmetic rewards for ranked!!!!!! Add last season rank borders, add more competitive reward skins, give each class a reward for one of their guns, not just one, add emotes, add sprays, add voice lines, add fking whatever, just more rewards!

• Balance the competitive game! Very easy to do. Look at how often each class is reaching the final round (1v1 round) and then fking buff the classes that are underperforming. spoiler alert. It's the fking light class. aim for 33% for each class. Potential workaround is to introduce rolequeue (LMH) for ranked. That would help you with balancing the clases a lot at the tradeoff that we won't be seeing MHH, MMH, and MMM every fking where. (look up why GOATS meta was so popular in Overwatch. Survivability and HP diff always wins in competitive over whatever the fk L can do better?)

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.
I've been asking since v1.50
Please add kbm to console

[plain patio]

please @fickle linden

to add onto what @quick coyote said it would be so awesome to have the ability to "play again" with the same teammates/enemy teams, and introducing the idea of map voting would be cool but i can definitely see the cons to it. some maps may never get played on

[proud eagle]

just how many hackers do yall ban in 1 day?

[sudden tangle]

tree fiddy

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[meager rain]

Imagine saying balancing is easy 💀

[shrewd urchin]

I think it is on all maps , you can mostly press the left button ,the other won't be detected and I can't use them(on PlayStation)

[sudden tangle]

Getting perfect balance is hard (making every weapon, gadget, ability viable). Figuring out which class is underperforming is fking easy (look at success rates). Then buffing said underperforming class in SOME way to bring it's success rate in line with the others is easy.

[loud sinew]

FIX RANKED fr that must be the main goal for s2 besides custom lobbies and pro scene.Literally no worse experenience in other E-Sports games with ranked mode

[sinful gazelle]

Please add static crosshair or make sights and crosshair in game lined up with all shots.

The sight/crosshair doesnt lined up with the shoot.

The shoot goes where the middle of the screen is anyways

Skipped to 8:48 timer for example

https://youtu.be/79G6crCJjLA?si=VIDljzHimgZgH26f

[sudden tangle]

Season 2 NEEDS TO HAVE SOME LOVE FOR COMPETITIVE:

• Refine the matchmaking system, make it stricter, why can bronze and diamond queue together?!

• Add more ranks! Why is diamond 1 the top rank? Add Master, Grandmaster, Top 500/Challenger!!!

• Introduce MMR based FP gains!!!!!!

• Reduce RNG in competitive by promoting holding cashouts vs 3rd partying. Do this by making cashouts have 3 "ticks" and on each tick a meaningful amount of money is given to the team holding the cashout on top of final cashout sum

• Waaaaay more cosmetic rewards for ranked!!!!!! Add last season rank borders, add more competitive reward skins, give each class a reward for one of their guns, not just one, add emotes, add sprays, add voice lines, add fking whatever, just more rewards!

• Balance the competitive game! Very easy to do. Look at how often each class is reaching the final round (1v1 round) and then fking buff the classes that are underperforming. spoiler alert. It's the fking light class. aim for 33% for each class. Potential workaround is to introduce rolequeue (LMH) for ranked. That would help you with balancing the clases a lot at the tradeoff that we won't be seeing MHH, MMH, and MMM every fking where. (look up why GOATS meta was so popular in Overwatch. Survivability and HP diff always wins in competitive over whatever the fk L can do better?)

• Please add static crosshair or make sights and crosshair in game lined up with all shots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shut gyro]

We need 120 fps on console it is weird we playing 60 fps on new gen consoles

[upper citrus]

yes to most but your balance opinions would probably ruin the game. light doesn’t need buffs, medium and heavy need to be nerfed and given proper downsides that they don’t make up for in their own kit. also, survivability doesn’t always win not even in overwatch. the most recent meta in overwatch used brig zen which is very minimal healing. it was focused on killing everything before you even need healing.

[toxic iron]

next update theyre adding 60 more frames to the code trust

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[wispy steeple]

increase spread for 1887

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[bleak coral]

bro i swear you've posted this over 100 times the past 3 months, it was noted the first time you sent the message here and if they're thinking of buffing riot shield they will - everything in this chat is turned into notes and sent to devs. amount of times you send this message has no influence on what actions the devs take

aka stfu 😭

edit: oh my god its actually over 100 times... i was just saying that but...

[gusty bone]

Bro what settings should I do to get good fps

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[stray maple]

buy helldivers 2 cheers

[woeful void]

shooting someone using a sniper should inflict a hell of a lot more flinch when they are ADS.

[pearl moss]

About Cheaters in the game .. i know its hard to detect many ESP .. but i have a solution for that .. Block Players will be the thing (like overwatch if you block a player you will never play against him in any match .. please do that and let us fight fairly in Ranked Tournaments 😔

[flint badge]

No update today?

[short dagger]

Should they add katana for medium?

[toxic cave]

Update for a dead game?

[rough herald]

text chat!

[fading glen]

So can we have a roadmap at least?

[vital flare]

what if they added a conquest mode similar to battlefield or a tdm mode think that would be cool

[sudden tangle]

Because now you have roleQ. Back when you could stack tanks and win by HP diff you had GOATS.

I prefer buffs over nerfs but either approach that results in equal class success rates is fine.

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[flint badge]

Why are you still checking the game's discord if you consider it dead and irrelevant

[plush grotto]

Block Lua and Python script please

[eager shard]

I CANT INVITE THE 70 PPL ON MY FRIENDS LIST CAUSE THERES NO MATCH INFO, I CANT SEND THEM A DISCORD INVITE CAUSE THERES NO PM SYSTEM, HOW DO I PLAY WITH THE PPL I ADD IN GAME?

[glacial knot]

Every damn battle always some one makes 0 kills, if you think good players should push bad players and thats why you dont improve the match making then better you create solo mode. So I can play alone. Because such players are just a burden and not a help.

[bleak coral]

<@&1012034066876473384> can u guys plz warn this person, rule 4 - check their msg history

stay mad spammer bad

[stray maple]

our brother wants riot shield to be buffed whats your problem stop yapping deal with it

[quick coyote]

I just encountered a pretty significant bug

[quick coyote]

if theyre spamming, it's bad; let me take a look!

[upper citrus]

riot shield doesn’t really need a buff in kill power anyways. it’s not meant to be a weapon it’s meant to be a way for the support class to protect itself. it just sucks because for some reason medium can do a billion dps with its weapons and doesn’t really need a shield

[woeful void]

for weeks now, same post multiple times a day or at least every time i pop in to the server. same goes for these BOAT guys

[eager rivet]

Is uncapped framerate on consoles too much to ask for?

[quick coyote]

ay, sorry man; but dont worry, when we compile, we delete everything duplicate (tho here it does look bad, pls do ping us again if you see spam)

[ivory yoke]

I'm sure this has been asked but please increase damage falloff for the revolver to be viable again 🙏

[toxic shadow]

surely this guy wont have a biased opinion on the riot shield

[tough sapphire]

Maybe rethink the respawns in ranked game, I just finish a final were we lost because we spawned 230metres away after a teamwipe and couldnt do anything but rush and to hopefully steal the cashout in the last second. Btw the other team always had close spawn. So to conclude, make sure that the spawns should always be near a cashout and not in the opposite side of the map during the f*cking final. Really unfair and its not the first time.

[obsidian solar]

@bleak coral Imagine getting angry at me for caring about the balancing of the game, also there's a cooldown for a reason and the messages have been sent over the course of many days and months, i won't stop until i see some changes, i care about the game and i wanna play it, i apologize if i'm to passionate about it
@upper citrus you clearly don't know the shield, it's so bad you can't even give support that's the point
@i.momo#0000 usually i sent that message once per day, i don't think it's spamming, i'll keep it down if necessary, I just wanna see some changes, I like the game, that's why i do it, it's not even useless spam, i give reasons on why i ask these buffs, i'm also very polite unlike some other people. I've been only using the shield since day 1 and i think I got a pretty good idea on how it works and how it compares to other weapons
@toxic shadow no, it's you who's the opposite, you're scared of the shield when it actually needs a buff, I don't want it to be op but at least compete and have a nice spot into the game

[quick coyote]

I would like to see more representation towards handycapable people. E.g. prosthetic leg. Prostethic arm wheelchair man. Heavy on a mobility scooter

[upper citrus]

the riot shield could definitely use some tweaks. a more accurate hitbox but also for it to be a little bit bigger and maybe not penalize movement as much as it does right now when blocking. but it definitely doesn’t need a buff in kill power, the entire point is that you’re sacrificing kill power for defense

[eager vessel]

i came acros a glitch where can i send the picture

[bleak coral]

there's caring about the balancing of the game, theres also only caring about 1 weapon in the game and spamming the same message for months over 100 times.
just telling you that all that spam is useless and doesnt make a difference...

however, if you really care that much, then when you play riot shield play rly bad so the average stats for the weapon drops - and hence will receive more changes.

i also think the riot shield needs changes, and i wrote the suggested changes in here - once. because after one time, that feedback is already noted and sent to the devs

i saw ur spam message at least 30 times, and just got fed up looking at it so asked you to stop - you posted it again in a reply to me, so i reported u for spam.

you can blow it out of proportion if thats how u deal with things, i rly dont care how u react as long as u stop sending that fking message here oml...

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[quick coyote]

If you hit play again (RB) after completing a match, when you finally connect to another match play again will pop up. if you hit that after you're already connecting to a game, it will connect you to the second game even after the first starts, thereby pulling you out of the first.
Huge bug 🐛 It banned me for 10 mins because of that lol

[thorn arch]

As mark twain said "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"

[glacial knot]

They dont need to add a new weapon, if they really want to do that for you , they need just to add katana skin.

[toxic shadow]

dude im going to be very honest. if your username is "Shield Master | Riot Shield Main" and i check out your youtube channel only to find out it has 163 videos about shields in videogames, im going to believe that you have a bit of bias towards the viability and strength on the riot shield

[eager vine]

Riot shield is cancer anyway

[obsidian solar]

1. All the other weapons are already getting looked by 99% of the community, i don't see anyone talking about the shield, also i ask for some dagger buffs as well even though i don't use it
   2)I don't need to play bad on purpose, it's already a struggle to go well
   3)How can I know they noted it if it's been since day i ask for it and nothing changed?
   4)Yeah I post it again to show how much I care about it, i fight for what i believe, until i see some changes i'll just think they ignored my message or don't wanna buff it, or simply because only few people ask for it, it's not a priority
2. You'll see it once a day usually
   @toxic shadow I don't blame you, but I promise I just want it to be viable and good, not busted otherwise what's the fun?
   @eager vine there you go the usual clown

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[open summit]

Adding a earthquake event would shake things up 😏

[quick coyote]

im with you my man, keep up the riot shield love

[foggy orbit]

Yeah the riot shield defintely needs some love, having a shielder on my team is the equivalent of having one less player. Kinda funny how triggered some people get over a suggestion to a riot shield buff to the point they have to ping a CM 🤣

[quick coyote]

Everytime heavy jumps and lands there needs to be a little earthquake around a perimeter of 5 meters. When heavy lands on a building he also needs to go through the building.

[storm hull]

You’re so right 🗣️

[slim karma]

Then you should also trust he has the most experience with the weapon and that he knows about it a lot more than you do, the riot shield is ojectively bad and needs some buffs.

[wispy ingot]

Please add keyboard and mouse support on Xbox and ps5

[upper citrus]

riot shield isn’t bad people just don’t know how to use it. i win most of my games using it

[cunning dagger]

Fuck riot shield, there's bigger problems like hackers, fps loss and matchmaking most of all.
They should be a bigger priority

[glad ore]

For the R.357 revolver: If its range isn't going to be buffed any further than what it currently is (either damage or accuracy), could we at least make the hipfire less of a joke? I get that y'all may not want it to overlap with the shotgun too much, so perhaps instead we make the hipfire far more accurate -- say by making the standing+moving hipfire as accurate as the current crouching hipfire -- but remove the ability to headshot while hipfiring, or reduce the crit multi while hipfiring.
Allow me to get accurate shots off at all ranges, but without invalidating the shotgun for those extreme close-range and scrambly fights. I want less RNG with my meme gun, pls.

[toxic shadow]

i dont think that listening to otps about the thing they main in question is a good idea for game balancing

[pine raft]

fix flamethrower hitreg, definitely a fun weapon but it doesnt work

[foggy orbit]

In all the ranked games I've played, I would say I see a shielder in 1/50 games, and I have never seen a team with a riot shield user get past knockout 2. Whenever I have been burdened with one on my team, they do nothing while getting their health chipped a way. The riot shield has many hard counters, flamethrower, every melee weapon, and even bullets since there is no way to protect yourself completely. The DPS it deals in its range is pathetic. It's universally agreed from a competitive standpoint that the riot shield is ASS, and to deny this is out right delusional. Nobody wants a brutally overpowered riot shield, we just want it to be a bit more viable so we don't have to run top tier meta weapons to compete in ranked.

[quick coyote]

Riot shield is a literal joke, even the janky barely functional dagger can kill them with dash lol. I won't mind if it got something unique, definitely 10 times better than going against FCAR.

[sour bane]

No patch this week?

[slim karma]

Not to mention 2/3 builds can quite literally just not die by running lol...

[toxic shadow]

never said it wasnt bad all i said was that listening to otps for balance suggestions is a bad idea because theres a high likelihood of bias

[upper citrus]

yes it’s not meant to be a strong weapon.. that’s the entire point

[twilit wolf]

I haven't met one riot shield on any ranked, I guess no one is interested in throwing the game... The shield can be fun for casual play, but it's an utterly pointless pick for competitive play

[chrome ingot]

We need MIDDLE EAST servers PLEASE!!

[stray maple]

u cant patch dead game

[slim karma]

Right no problem, but it sucks at what it is supposed to do, block incoming damage, if you can't survive when blocking damage, what is the shielder going to do? Hide in a corner? You are proving my point in it needing a buff because it doesn't do good at anything lmfao... Every other weapon servers a more useful purpose than the riot shield, thats why it needs a buff.

[shy walrus]

its stupid that an RPG hits someone thats like 10 meters away but still does more damage to me than to them. like the rocket is pointing away from me and still does just under double the damage to me

[obsidian solar]

I'm so happy to see other people defending the shield and see its weakness, we can only hope devs listen
@upper citrus that is the most braindead thing I've read today, the point of the weapon is to be weak? What are you smoking?😂😂😂

[willow kite]

BRUH

[upper citrus]

idk how you can dedicate your entire profile to the riot shield and not understand it’s purpose. it’s not meant to be a good weapon, it’s meant to sacrifice its effectiveness as a weapon in order to protect the user because medium is the support class and will likely get shot at first by a coordinated team.

[tepid shard]

give a benefit to 2 person tournie teams. Starting with two or with two mid match just sucks. 😦 team wipes:(

[pseudo latch]

Day 12 of begging the devs to give heavy a KS23 four-gauge shotgun

[bleak coral]

go write a sign and protest in front of embark studios if u rly care about it then, otherwise obvs dont care enough only thing u can do is spam cos u crave attention

[uneven talon]

Pvp enabled

[open summit]

We NEED reactive skins on kill/points

[stray maple]

only thing u can do is to yap about spamming,go touch grass.

[upper citrus]

#👂┇game-feedback message i said here it should get a buff in its ability to defend. not attack

[outer jetty]

Reposting my gamemode ideas.

- Gamemode Ideas:

[Main]:
Bounty Hunters -         [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Hide And Seekers -       [2 Teams, 6v6]
Sponsors Wars -          [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Bank Bandits -           [2 Teams, 6v6]

[Other]:
Bomb Rush -              [3 Teams, 3v3v3]

If you interested of the details of all gamemodes. Free to DM me to have the Text file. [Examples: Objectives, Reasons]

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[lean notch]

Please for the love of god rework the goo gun, it's just a trolling weapon that glitches out people's characters either on your team or against enemies.

[stone aurora]

Holy shit yes they do, go onto reddit or hell even discord you'll figure that out quickly. (Figured this out recently over an argument on reddit about how you don't soak your electronic Puffco chamber in water. I mean cmon, who does that??) There's no changing someones mind, especially if they're basing everything they know on misinformation, etc. Basically a dummy will always be a dummy. Sometimes that's why it is good to be open-minded, even if you are a dummy at least you are able to realize how much of a dumbass you are. xD

[keen lily]

plat is impossible to climb as solo q, please fix it so premades get matchmaked with premades and solo queuers separately

[upper citrus]

the hipfire should be bad so that the weakness of the gun up close is a valid reason to not pick the weapon. every gun needs strengths and weaknesses. the real issue with the revolver is that the fcar is so unbelievably stupid that there’s no reason to pick the revolver almost ever. it wins against the fcar in peek battles sometimes but the fcar completely shits on it in every other scenario and it’s not even close. it’s really weird that medium, the support class, has a weapon that’s super good for ttk without being a skill shot weapon like the revolver. the fcar really just needs a rework

[quick coyote]

see? its what im trying to say since ever and people clowning on me for wanting a FCAR/Lewis nerf
not only about revolver but other guns aswell, i can even kill a sniper or get him burned around 10% almost 80m away with an FCAR

[wispy ingot]

Put keyboard and mouse on Xbox and ps5 support

[toxic coral]

This is great! 👍

[obsidian solar]

I couldn't care less about the attention of people i don't know nothing about, but apparently you crave attention by making such a fuss over me posting something

[glad ore]

Even if we pretend the fcar were in line with the akm, the pure mid-range will always be dominated by the ARs, which are also still very viable up close with hipfire spray-n-pray due to the very nature of ARs being bullet hoses with relatively low spreads and the low punishment for each individual missed bullet. To that end, having a weapon that has no viable long-range poke and being absolute RNG trash up close is just going to make for a weapon that's always a bad pick by comparison.
I would argue that taking away its 2x headshot multi while hipfiring could be enough of a drawback that you could bring up the accuracy to help its viability up close without outclassing the shotgun in that range. Missing shots when the crosshair is dead-on the target doesn't feel good or skillful. As a player I have no agency over improving that situation aside from changing my weapon entirely, which is not what we should be encouraging. Trade-offs are one thing, a complete lack of consistency leading to nonsense losses which the player has no ability to change just feels bad.

[bleak coral]

bot

[sterile echo]

I'm gonna complain again, fuck heavies. Charge and Slam, overpowered shotgun, hyper damage nukes, still overtuned rpg and explosive mines. Absolutely no skill to rank up with that build every heavy exploits. Please nerf. No one should have that amount of burst damage. The one counter: Stun Gun, haha great. Would love that I didn't have to run Stun Gun because of that bs

[stone aurora]

If anything needs a fuckin nerf sometimes I feel like its the mp5 cuz I always die close range when I'm using the other smg when that shoudn't be the case @bleak coral Lmao bro's yapping about someone yapping because they're yapping too much

[tender glen]

Nades rework:

Glitch grenade: Instead of bouncing off like other grenades, make 'em stick like semtex in CoD

Frag grenade: Make 'em cookable, with the timer on screen

Flash grenade: Make the blinding effect more powerful and longer, add 'black' color effect as an option in accessibility tab

New modes:

Team Deathmatch: A team that scored a total of 25 kills first wins | 15 minutes time limit

Free For All: A player that scored a total of 15 kills wins | 10 minutes time limit

[sand ruin]

I gotta say if you guys add helicopters to the game with guns I will never stop playing and Ik you guys are working on cars and motorcycles

[toxic iron]

you sure they working on cars and motorcycles...?

[upper citrus]

tbh if you couldn’t headshot while hipfiring but it was more reliable that would be cool. that alongside fcar nerfs would be a good change

[rare stag]

custom games

[stoic zinc]

You guys need to do smth with Descartes` Demon mask man, it feels like its from minecraft

[kind fern]

less lag

[mellow linden]

Guys the matchmaking is pure garbage in ranked. Frustrates a lot. Like I was grinding diamonds only to play with random diamonds at least platinum. But all I get is bronze and silver in my team. And full squad (saw them in discord channel of other group) diamonds playing against us... I can't express it enough how it frustrates.

[quick coyote]

Day1 asking for Middle East servers

[spark girder]

TDM and FFA would suck like all the limited time modes they’ve added. Even bank it isn’t much better because there’s no central focus for teams. Running around skirmishing gets old fast.

[tender glen]

Well sometimes people just wanna kill :)

[thorny hill]

probably never TBH

[lavish shard]

for season 2 are you expecting anything new? or the classic weapon Gadget Map?

[uneven barn]

mic stops working in discord when playing every time

[deep cairn]

love this game

[vernal swallow]

Sledgey comically large spoon skin when?

[spark girder]

Modes in the same spirit of

rush, demolition, oddball, king of the hill, hardpoint, domination, headquarters, blitz, uplink, etc.

I think would be the types of modes that would be fun to experiment with in the finals.

[stray temple]

game needs siege like weapon attatchments to spend free currency on (barrel mods, sights etc.), fcar needs bullet dropoff and at least nerfed by 1 damage, shotguns need headshot multipliers, xp needs either more recoil or damage nerf, sword needs a damage nerf, annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the ak just needs something i cant quite put my finger on it

[toxic iron]

we NEED an "I'm sorry!" callout

[lone stone]

Sword needs damage nerf 💀💀💀💀

[atomic drum]

the enemy killed u and say "I'm sorry"

[sour bane]

Where patch notes

[twilit patrol]

you mean the melee weapon in a gun game? Where also the user is 5 shots to the body? Sure

[upbeat urchin]

Suggestion for game mode:
Some sort of rugby on a dedicated map with big loops where you have to throw the ball to score

I think this would require some sort of steal mechanic where you would press a button to steal the ball from the opponents' hands

No weapons and lower gravity (but not as much as in the in game event)

Feel free to add what comes up in your mind

[stable lagoon]

Let stun guns instakill turrets, like Spy from TF2's Sapper

[thorny hill]

this is what happens in 99% of games no matter what at least if they had the mode we could say, and hopefully more people would, just go play TDM! I literally wasted half a match with a team in comp who HAD the lead TDMing using and they lost becuase of it! they were nowhere near cashout and lost the game TDMing us!! this shit happens ALL THE TIME!!! makes zero sense in comp or any other mode!

[eager vine]

Improve the ping system as 50% of them are not so useful and add another ping wheel when we are dead (sometimes we want to let know this is not a good time to be revived)

[rain gust]

As a buff to the APS turret, the APS turret's visible radius should not be visible to the enemy player. It just gives away its presence. Grenades for example, they don't have any indicator other than the physical grenade itself that it's on the ground, and that makes it a great gadget. But, when playing against it, you can easily avoid their effect if your eyes are good.

[jagged cedar]

Does aps need a buff tho?

[queen cloud]

yes, i've reported you for spam as well. Always the same guy with the same message.

Went I checked your youtube channel. Every single video is about riot shield.
You only play shield, say its op and then come here complain it's weak and needs a buff... 🤡

[thorny hill]

yes!

[eager vine]

Yes I agree, but also nerf it so that is has a slight delay of activation like the turret.
Or, have a tiny delay between each "projectile kill", allowing some projectiles to pass if quick enough.

[rapid moss]

This game could serve to have something like double gadget xp weekends. or some type of "gadget of the day" for each class in which that specific gadget gets double xp for the day.

[wispy oasis]

any updates on the frames in game

[cinder shore]

My game dont open when It launches. I used to can play game before 1.5. I mean I start the game on steam and ıt loads but ıt closes again

[vagrant anvil]

3 times on startup. it was running fine as of 3 am yesterday. (today)

[unreal kelp]

[rain gust]

somewhat. APS' visible radius being visible to the enemy player is just.. weird

[uneven mountain]

Just don’t play light all the time and don’t pick fights with heavy’s unless your SURE you will win, bud did NOT just ask for an XP and vs buff

[devout thicket]

legit this is something only a light player can say

[jagged cedar]

Aps is already a good pick how it is. I don't really see a point in that. It does its job already. If anything it needs a nerf in the form of not working on gl

[glacial knot]

I faced a light player with knife today in diamond lobby he killed me with one hit 😳

[hidden ferry]

APS is definitely highlighted too much for enemies. Either make it tankier so it takes some effort to destroy it or stealthier so smart placement pays off.

[queen cloud]

maybe turn, shoot and don't let him hit you in the back?! 🤣

[glad ore]

I would agree with the APS radius not being visible through walls and junk. Kinda makes placing it near a cashout station to stop easy drops or ceiling cracks pointless since they can just aim around it.

[vernal swallow]

I mean that’s kinda the whole reason people use knife lol

[vagrant anvil]

says the mf that can literally teleport in any direction to run or chase at your leisure. for light to be balanced they need to make e dash have 1-2 charges, take longer to recharge, and remove cloaking device and replace it with something else. keep the invis grenade I don't care. light is disproportionately overpowered. e dash makes you literally impossible to hit, you can e dash up, down, anywhere. don't say run if you're playing light. pot calling the kettle black. that's on god. light sword is overpowered because it does the most damage, and the light can just teleport around you. make it do less damage. Light players live in their own world. play heavy ONE TIME. JUST ONCE. you'll understand its not very fair after that.

[dawn sand]

the range on the sledge hammer needs to be reduced bruh

[dusky nacelle]

so good

[thorny hill]

just join voice chat! I am plat and I have NEVER won without all 3 people being in voice chat! F your pings... be in voice chat and make calls then you will win! I dont think you should be allowed to play comp without voice chat

[dusk forge]

FIX YOUR FUCKED UP SHITTY MATCHMAKING

[uneven mountain]

It’s an ability they are swapping it out for cloak and grapple

[eager vine]

I would but it doesn't work on Xbox like 90% of the time 🤷‍♂️
I solo queue and I'm in Gold so...

[viscid owl]

i feel like the sword and melee probably should have some sort of stamina or reload applied to it, like swinging the sword however many times, each swing lowering stamina that instantly regens idk, to prevent someone from just spamming everyone to death

[safe bone]

womp womp

[velvet moth]

Remove invisibility and increase dash cooldown. Ah, also reduce dash from 3 to 2 because it's impossible to hit. Less damage also on weapons. You must be trolling.

[vernal swallow]

I’m a heavy main and hate most lights, but even I’m not dumb enough to think this is a good update 💀

[pseudo latch]

Heavy player here, this would kill light. Thank you.

[obsidian solar]

It's trash it's not op, you're just scared and a clown.
Also in my videos if actually Watch them and listen to me i keep saying it's trash lmao, you just saw the thumbnails😂

[digital narwhal]

Decrease light damage by 50%

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[uneven knot]

fix MMR

[pure arrow]

They already removed that. Which is a good thing.

[sour bane]

No patch meaning Embark feel good about balance of game right now? 🤔

[fervent coral]

Matchmaking so bad tht I decided to take the suspensions

[soft gorge]

How removing input options in a crossplay game is a good thing? Imagine if we had mkb support on consoles and input based matchmaking, everyone would be playing against the same input and everyone would be playing the input they prefer. Win win for both sides.

[eager vine]

Give the devs a break

[sterile echo]

REMOVE LOW GRAVITY! HOLY SHIT, it's just as bad as Dead Go Boom

[stable lagoon]

Give Stun Gun the functionality of Sapper from TF2:

Disables a turret on shot, destroying it after 5 seconds. During that time, the Medium who deployed the turret can safely pick it up to place it back without the effect. Works on both APS and Sentry Turret.

[pure arrow]

If it worked like that, that would be great. I agree. The problem before was, they reduced aim assist on console significantly. So my friends on Xbox were playing with cross play turned off using controllers and getting smacked by m&k players on Xbox. That…that’s a problem. I like your idea though as long as they can’t cheat the input system.

[unique steeple]

Remove invis, y'all are mad cuz you can't play without it

[twilit patrol]

Honestly, hot take but I agree.

[fervent coral]

Honestly I’ll rather yall make it where u cant put c4 on any barrel

[viscid owl]

I'd love more control over the video settings, lowering things and entirely disabling other things, like grass, shadows, etc, in order to make the game run better on my dogwater pc

in retrospect I think there needs to be more work put into making it compatible with lower end connections, I seem to have jitter and lag every couple of minutes especially when things get destroyed and when people shoot at me

[rough acorn]

I love the finals i hope season 2 is not as dogshit as season 1!

[open summit]

Embark studios, please make community workshop for players to vote and submit skins/maps for us to choose from ❤️

[cunning lava]

delete the game at this point

[novel nova]

I GOT A GREAT IDEA!
Please make that as an Medium, If your Turret got damage you can repair it!
Aps Turret/sentry turret

[soft gorge]

I agree, that is why our request also involves input based matchmaking... Cod and fortnite they both have it and it works great, I don't understand why devs are taking too long to address this issue.

[prisma vault]

You know if ur turret is damaged you can pick it up and put it back down and it's full health again..?

[eager vine]

Nah that's a different behaviour for just this gun like wtf
Just use the stun gun like a glitch grenade on that turret and now we're talking

[tall rock]

I think this game would benefit from a shirtless cosmetic but that's just me

[clear trout]

or just pick it up and place it back down

[pure arrow]

Fair. I can get behind that then ☺️My biggest fear would be ensuring it can’t be cheated.

[sterile echo]

Don't let heavies have so many damage gadgets equipped at the same time (RPG, C4, Explosive mine)

[vernal swallow]

People seriously don’t see why lights are hated and then go into a game and 3rd party the fuck outta everything, was fighting a light on purple team and was about to probably kill him when I got tazed by a light on pink team as I was being shot by purple and then the fatass just runs away invisible like fuck you bro??

[stable lagoon]

They could create a whole source of revenue from this, like Tennogen from Warframe:

Skin creators get voted by the community, game sells it and gives a portion of the profit to the designer.

I would honestly prefer they made it like CS2/TF2/DoTA2's skin box system because that is straight up more profitable, but that would add a layer of gambling which wouldn’t fly well with many people, so Tennogen's pattern is much more acceptable

[short heart]

Fortnite is fr gay

[slim karma]

People seriously don’t see why heavies are hated and then go into a game and 3rd party the fuck outta everything, was fighting a light on purple team and was about to probably kill him when I got nuked by a heavy on pink team as I was being shot by purple and then the fatass just runs into his dome shield like fuck you bro??

[chilly merlin]

Ranked grind takes ages, in gold atm teammates and others are diamond. Dont get why there is hidden mmr in ranked.

[twilit patrol]

Theres no hidden mmr, its just MM is kind of prioritizing time rather than close ranks.

[stable lagoon]

Add an alt-fire to Tracking Dart: fires a Healing Dart instead, which can slow heal teammates from far away, like Ana from Overwatch as well as Medic's Crusader Crossbow from TF2.

New gear idea: Medi-Shot from CS2. Heals the user for 50hp over 2 seconds. Great fit for Light's hit & run playstyle.

[dawn sand]

please delete lock on for the dagger

[vernal swallow]

na ah

[edgy iris]

toggle sprint and toggle aim options when? 👀

[near parcel]

Any way we can get an option to adjust/disable melee aim assist? in my 60 hours playtime with a sledgehammer, it's done more bad than it's done good, so i'd like to have a way to at least soften its impact. While i'm just trying to break a wall or something, i often find the aim assist doing 180 flicks by itself, hitting an enemy that was behind me without me even acknowledging their presence in the first place
will share an example vid once i get media perms
https://youtu.be/2yQcxnZfSbE

[tawny oriole]

60 hours playtime 😂 i m almost 400 hours playtime

[pseudo latch]

Petition to make medium and heavy trade melee weapons.

My Justification: Heavy would get a lot more out of a turtling melee where enemies need to come to him, medium would have the speed to actually utilize sledgehammer while also getting some needed destruction without making them broken.

[near parcel]

hey man, thats great to hear, im proud of you, really, dont see what that has to do with the feedback though. you're welcome to actually add something useful related to the suggestion, since you are at almost 400 hours playtime

[mental cipher]

Heavy’s have the most health and have the most damage output with c4 nuke&rpg combo with 2 clicks zero skill. How isn’t that nerfed?

[pure arrow]

Hey, this one isn’t game feedback as much as it server feedback. Could we please get LFG channels for PC PS and Xbox separately? For those who don’t play crossplay.

[low isle]

yeah look at him. having a life and stuff. unheard off

[tawny oriole]

i have proposed enough suggestions i am very active in this chat 😘 dont worry my friend

[upper eagle]

Shall make heavy slam go through building floors when he jumps from very high places :>

[tight kiln]

How difficult would it be to implement a higher frame rate mode on consoles? I think this game would benefit from it

[pseudo latch]

It has been. Several times, actually.

[upper citrus]

why would they remove the worst special in the game

[lavish shard]

🤡🤡🤡

[ebon gale]

someone have problems with the frame gen on the finals ?

[open summit]

Suggestion for ranked: since we have limited amount of tokens for tournament per spawn, adding tokens for you to change an item in your class could add a variety of skill gap and countering items against an opponent

Reason for this would be mainly out of frustration, nobody really likes being stuck in a game with 3 CL40 players in the opposing team with not a single AP turret in sight, making you deal with it, so just to make it more balanced maybe gain 1 token for class per 2 rounds that way communication would be needed who picks what or have a class token per team.

[fierce torrent]

400 hours playtime 😂 i m almost 650 hours playtime

[tawny oriole]

Do you have real life 😂 ?

[near parcel]

@tawny oriole it's your moment to be the bigger person, ignore and move on
edit: nvm

[waxen granite]

Please remove recon and nukes lmao.

[wild axle]

So i found this in the training area, so I'm gonna test it in game

If you catch a training dummy on fire with your Flamethrower and then begin spamming Mesh Shield as Heavy before the burn damage finishes applying, the burn will continue applying as long as you stay in the swap animation. This does not consume ammo, nor do you need to keep looking at the burn target or hold down M1.

[true zinc]

what is your plan to revive this game? 15k players is kinda sad for such a great game

[open summit]

Light should get extra 2 passives one would be a syringe that speeds up your movement, faster reloading, using utility by 50% and a decoy hologram like mirage from apex

[coarse flame]

they announced they will put more weight on marketing in season 2, so we'll see how that turns out

[next pike]

season 2 I assume
as far as I know, they have been cooking...

[quick coyote]

please add more monitization to the game, i dont want this game to die its fun. But also make items purchaseable out of bundles its annoying

[swift horizon]

think there should be a indicator or some BIG TEXT telling new players to let go of your keys after you hold it to charge the defib to activate the revive.... the amount of times i see this...

[short dagger]

katana

[jagged cedar]

rot

[open summit]

‼️ I have a permanent solution for nukes so both sides of the player base would be happy:

Make nukes have some sort of throwable delay or charge up time maybe a visual and or audio queue for time to react on the receiving end of things, that way if people do end up getting elimited by it they would definitely know for sure it was a skill issue, keeping the strategy still valuable for those who use it and give enough time for those getting abused by it.

[stray basalt]

Casual first, competitive second. That’s the plan the devs have been saying ever since the game was in beta

[reef jasper]

Game is losing players by the week… remove Recon and nukes . Buff light class. Y’all need to cater to the new player experience and the meta does not at all

[foggy python]

bug, was chasing a cloaked light, and the window he jumped through didn't break, the second one does. https://streamable.com/qint37

[junior raven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/Uirl51fni3

[whole plover]

NERF NUKES! PUT A TICK IF U AGREE

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[woven hawk]

I fell in love with the Valentine's Day song🎵, I want it and I want to deeply thank those who made it.. but I don't know how 🥺

[digital narwhal]

@sonic garnet helped make the song so you can thank him

[paper jackal]

They already nerfed it at this point skill issue

[cursive horizon]

yo

[waxen granite]

Okay so i have an idea that i think will definitely make this game 10000% more enjoyable and you might even see a massive amount of players come back. Basically you remove recon sense and you remove nukes. Boom massive problems with this game fixed.

[lavish shard]

I love the ideas 2 weeks for new stuff

[junior raven]

Wasn’t mine but yeah

[tall rampart]

the matchmaking is horrid in ranked, literally me and my friend we got 8-7 kill and the random teamate, 0

[obsidian folio]

custom games when

[sinful gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/not-in-a-million-years-jade-jade-joddle-engvid-not-happening-gif-23192598

[turbid gate]

Popped in after a bit of time away. You’re doing great devs. As a light main the nuke nerf is very good for not only casual but also comp gamers! I definitely see a need to balance out medium so heavy and light have a reason to be chosen perhaps making Defib a Special or something of the nature or adding things to the light class that benefit the entire team. Aside from crashes and cheaters great game so far. It sucks the launch was so soon and badly timed. But I trust you guys have more to show us !!!

[worn torrent]

Just played a game where vaults 4,5, and 6 did not spawn in with 2.30 min left in the game. In ranked tournament on Vegas sandstorm.

[rocky verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-spin-spin-chair-spinning-chair-gif-26292822

[obsidian folio]

the game is built around 3classes, why on earth would they make a 4player mode??

[minor carbon]

Nerf heavy

[sick pier]

How about making it a stim gun, you can use it to inject yourself, or you can shoot it at a teammate to inject them instead. It will be a pretty aggressive fall off after shot and medium range, to make it a skillshot and not hitscan / inf range.

Starts HP regen up to 60% of HP recovery, lowers cooldown for normal HP regen to kick in and finish off healing. Grants speed boost (strafing efficiency improved perhaps, on top of just speed) for 3s. Taking damage would slow down the rate of stim-induced regen and reduce the amount of healing it’ll do in total, based on the amount of damage received.

For Light class (gives them some team util / self preservation since they are squishy). Honestly it can be a specialization if it has two shots in stock. Otherwise a util with a 25-30s cooldown or something.

[junior raven]

That wouldn’t be bad i honestly like the idea of it being like a tranq but I feel like it’s hp regen should be determined by how much hp you have possibly the lower you are the bigger the boost up to x amount

A dart gun like would be interesting it could give all the shitty lights a way to help the team out in some way at least but I think it should be reserved for maybe a sniper for team utility I’ve seen the sniper idea a few times

[obsidian crest]

spawns need to be randomized within a zone of the cashout. being spawned in the same spot on the final round and being prenaded on seoul is horrible.

[lavish shard]

My expectations for season 2
2 maps
1 weapon by class
1 abilities by class
2 gadget by class

[loud night]

if we could get them crashes fixed before season 2, that'd be greaaaaaaaaat mkay

[waxen granite]

So basically remove recon remove nukes bing bop boom. Game is infinitely better

[green zenith]

2 players quit during a ranked game, 4 minutes on the clock. Not nearly enough time to wait out the penalty lift, decided to quit my now 1 player team. 30 minute penalty.

Honestly, this game makes perfect sense. It sells well on the visual fidelity, but really it's just a Kickstarter game in disguise made by subhuman devs that worry too much about the cosmetic importance of sales than actually making the game enjoyable. After 300 hours of nonsense in ranked games, solo mind you, because the player base is toxic and people never want to play beyond the initial match for some reason, makes for an entirely shitty gaming experience.

Please do better, Embark. Listen to Bungie or Epic for advice, and do better.

[sick pier]

Season 2 wishlist:

• Add killcam
• Add replays
• Add match history screen w/ detailed game stats
• Implement text chat
• Improved balance between classes
• Improvements to game performance 🙏
• Improvements to ranked systems (penalties, competitive integrity)
• More lenient / non-aggressive SBMM for non-ranked
• New gamemode
• New maps
• New weapons and utilities

[scarlet hull]

Season 2 wishlist:

• Make it so in the pregame lobby we can see each other do the spinny thing

[edgy urchin]

just lost a ranked round due to two teams teaming
is this against the rules? if so where/how can i report them or this
and yes i have a recording of proof

[daring fossil]

I mean, they kind of have to worry about the cosmetics sales because otherwise they can't pay their devs, it's a f2p game. Also the people working on cosmetics aren't doing weapon balance or working on maps, or bug fixing.

[woven hawk]

unfair teaming is extremely hard to judge, because helping another team is sometimes part of strategy. For example, one team had only 2 players on it. We protected them only so we can beat them in the final round

[coral axle]

seems too be a new cheat people are using, the heavy are moving at light running speed medium can do it as well

[cunning dagger]

Season 2 wishlist:

1. Improved ranked matchmaking. Longer queues are fine. No matching plat with bronze
2. Input based matchmaking.
3. Add team text chat.
4. Should not be penalized if someone has already left in your team.
5. Fps and stutter issues should be fixed
6. Chinese hackers need to be handled
7. More stats- damage given etc after match ends
8. BR mode if possible

[green zenith]

You're justifying them. The game as a final product is a mishap mess. Their focus is on their cosmetic sales, not working on other aspects of the game. Every update has brought numerous more bugs. It doesn't change the fact that there's independent teams who factor in on their roles, it's the game itself that is the mess.

[edgy urchin]

they gave one team EVERY single vault and cashout guarding them against the other two teams and in the end one team got 113k (rank btw)

[daring fossil]

yeah I am, I'm justifying the cosmetic sales because they need to exist or the game goes away. I know the game is a mess, but bitching about them spending time on cosmetics instead of fixing the game is the wrong thing to bitch at. season 2 is coming in 12 days, if there aren't significant changes, bitch then.

[teal monolith]

The finals will always be the top arcade fps shooter simple. 🤷‍♂️

[quick coyote]

i agree the game now has more bugs than release version, but i heavily disagree with focusing on cosmetic sales. they have been releasing QoL updates quite frequently and listening to the community

[worn mulch]

honestly how hard could it to code a condition that when theres an intact wall between you and the cashout you cant steal it

[eager vine]

Please fix voice chat on Xbox

[quick coyote]

Y'all should go buy something. Give the devs an influx of capital before season 2

[vivid cape]

I’m probably gonna buy the neon cowboy for that sick skin and eye combo

[wheat anchor]

why is the #4 ranked guy in my games and i lose 115 points...when r they goign to fix the dogshit matchmaking in this game

[vestal blaze]

I was just a heavy build and my skin was invisible on my end i just saw crosshairs

[calm crystal]

windows are funny not sure if its a bug or intended, but they like dont break sometimes

[vivid cape]

Bc everyone bitches about SBMM

[eager vine]

4 times in a row I solo queue and I lose... I'm matched with 2 lower ranks teammates

[fallow loom]

i was plat 1 i get silver/bronze light players all the time and lose. As a light player i simply do not trust any other light and will insist to play light even if teammate is a light. im diamond now so i quit playing this game until the next season.

Maybe we need some way to see teammate's rank during the class-choosing period to see whether or not a teammate should be trusted?

[smoky sedge]

I am getting put into ranked games with 2 players on my team WTF such a waste of my time...

[quick coyote]

We should be sent to the practice arena whilst queuing up for a game.

[upper citrus]

nerf fcar and lewis gun

[fallow loom]

no need to nerf lewis gun, i see ppl struggle to control it, but the fcar does need a nerf, maybe on the recoil or hip-fire spread side

[plain patio]

agree. lewis is good where its at. but fcar needs a nerf for sure

[thorny hill]

legit WHY does RPG do so much damage to self? this is just the dumbest game machinic in the history of games! same damage based on distance... okay, sure... double damage to self? WTF? WHY!?!?! just straight stupidity !! Whoever came up with this, stick your head in a used toilet!

[upper citrus]

lewis completely overshadows the m60 and shreds at close range despite the fact its supposed to be the long range counterpart to the m60. It kinda doesnt have any weaknesses which is unfortunate. I'd personally say that it's fire rate should be lower so that the penalty for missing shots up close is greater and can be punished more. The loss of dps from taking the lewis gun over the m60 is negligible because the lewis gun destroys the m60 in every range. But the m60 is already good and you cant really buff it without it also being overtuned.

[flint shell]

the randoms in this game are fucking terrible.... i think this is what turns a ton of people away from the game tbh. people like the conecept and potential of the game but refuse to deal with the frustraton of playing with randoms or finding a new set of players everytime they want to play

[final slate]

my mines seem to blow up as i throw them if someone with a flamethrower is shooting at me

[lost solar]

I hope that we will at least know in the future the name of the real group who created it. It is too good to be just an easter egg

[jagged cedar]

lewis is just fcar 2.0 for the first 10 bullets and the rest of the recoil pattern isnt as difficult as it should be for the damage it shits out

[pseudo latch]

I mean the code exists, it’s just finicky with some props, like the storage containers.

[quick coyote]

i dont play light in ranked because of this id say a 25 health buff for light is all that you need allong with a glitch grenade buff and a taser nerf to balence it out

[frank oracle]

4 vs 4 mode want

[quick coyote]

The issue with this is that there are plenty of people who wreck house with light. The best compromise I can think of is a specialization that allows you to shorten health recovery cooldown. If it were an equipment, then it would be throwing to keep it out of slot (that’s not healthy game design); yet I feel the class would be lacking if you took it over dash or invisibility.

The devs will have to get creative in order to answer the skill-ceiling vs. casual player problem inherent in light’s design.

[thorny hill]

TotalSweep#9168 - here's another cheater for you, not that you care... you probably wrote and SOLD them the cheat codes! imagine being so bad at a game you have to cheat!!! What a SAD existence of utter pathetic uselessness!

[woven hawk]

PLEASE give us a 3v3 mode. No more 3rd party, no 4th party. They increase randomness and luck, which isn't good competitively or very fun to have all the time.

Tournament style, ranked, maybe first to 3 / best of 5 with faster timers?

[jagged cedar]

please

[gentle urchin]

Nerf turrets, playing vs 6 mids with turrets is a nightmare

[median cipher]

Fix your anti cheat, literally got kicked for no reason and I don't know what's causing the issue

[quick coyote]

All they need to do is make deployables disappear when their owner dies. There’s no reason this shouldn’t have been a 1.1 patch

[frosty cape]

Toxic people trash talk a light player like me like hard core trashed talk me so this game can its toxic society can kiss my ass! BYE!

[violet vigil]

please give us 9 custom contestants

[upper citrus]

i wouldn’t mind but i also think the main competitive mode should remain as 3v3v3v3 tournament. if they change the spawn system around to be more like battlefield it would be fine

[obtuse fable]

Can we please get tighter SBMM in Season 2.

No way I'm being matched with (2) Bronze players as a Platinum 1 Player about to hit Diamond.

[woven hawk]

Yeah they know best so I don't want that to change, I love the core game-mode but I also love the finals part of this game so much; the peace and clarity. Swapping between the modes would feel refreshing

[mystic briar]

i like the finals ™️

[carmine quest]

same

[hybrid siren]

Please change the level 6 sword to have more color in its design. I put blood sweat and tears into the worst skin for sword

[sacred siren]

PLEASE make the sticker centered on the dome shield. its completely unplayable and borderline game breaking

[graceful slate]

'G' — Today at 1:46 AM
this guy is suuper toxic was cheating and a bad guy supper disraspectful and needs to be romved from thi game they a re a terrible member of the community and everuyone would benifit i this guy was removed

[quaint vigil]

Once again I am pleading for individual purchasing for store items. Please let us buy single items from bundles (even at an increased price). I dont want to pay 20 dollars for a single item just because its in a bundle.

[shy epoch]

Just lost a Final round Ranked match after 7 attempts to get there. All because of Melee-aim assist. I am sick, & tired of trying to swing at the Obvious low health target who just got revived & missing because fking aim assist decided to try attk the defib player. 5 times.
(pretty sure i broke something on my desk because of what i had to witness)

[marsh turret]

In rank tournament can you make it so, if your teammates leave it doesn't give you negative points?? I hate when my teammates leaves in the middle of the match when 1: everything just started & 2: We claim first place and cashout. But they still proceed to leave 🤦

[errant flame]

DAY 1️⃣ 5️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 3-4 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[cunning cedar]

Stop spamming this nonsense

[crystal wren]

gonna

[dawn sand]

there has got to be a gamemode based off kills man you cant practice at all in bank it. everyone just ends the game with 0 kills and 60k money

[shy swan]

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE the finals team add something!

• steal the spotlight back allowing queing with friends

• custom games with friends

• 5 v 5 bank it gamemode

• see everyones loadout in tab menu

• something new n fun like...

• portable mini dome shield for heavy

• new in game event

• text chat

• invisable bomb length depends on player health size (so people actualy use it on teammates) Imagine full hp hammer heavy invisable for a while. fun n probably not broken

• impact grenades (weaker but easier to use)

• impact glitch grenade (very weak n shorter effect time and easier to use)

• some beards

• ADD A FIXED CROSSHAIR TO THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN gun doesnt shoot where the iron sights always are it shoots in the middle of the screen making monitor crosshairs have an advantage.
  the finals team if you see this, a lot of people are getting bored of this game and i hope you add enough to bring people back. feel like big updates bring people back not little ones. i hope some of these ideas are used cuz right now alot of people are getting bored and want more. i hope this isnt waisted potential 😭

[stable lagoon]

Gear & weapon ideas from other games:

Weapons:

-M82 AMR
-Compound Bow
-Crossbow
-SPAS-12 Shotgun
-Javelin/Spear
-Slug Shotgun

Gears:

-Healing Dart
-Medi-Shot
-Gravity Bomb
-Rocket Boots
-Portal Gun
-Translocator
-Explosive RC
-Surveillance Drone
-Decoy Balloon
-Bear Trap
-Pet Dog
-Pet Falcon
-Holograph Emitter
-Claymore
-Barbed Wire
-Grenade Case
-First-aid Kit

[fossil wedge]

Feedback: Disallow attaching C4 to cannisters. Do you guys not like making money? Do you like your game dying? What is the point in waiting for 200,000 out of 220,000 players to quit before you start making any positive changes?

[frank oracle]

High rank update want

[quick coyote]

PLEASE ADD MEWING EMOTE NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!! IT WILL BE SO TOXIC AND THE MOST USED ONE FR (hashtag add mewing in chat , if we get 10k embark should add it in season 2)

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[cunning cedar]

Recon should get removed already, replace it with e.g. defib

[eager rivet]

The couldn’t centre the div

[sleek dove]

let us change enemy team colours. Having pink AND purple is stupid. Let us choose from a varied colour palette or colour picker so enemy teams are easily distinguishable

[twilit wolf]

never had problems with this, but agree it would be nice to have this customizable

[sinful gazelle]

So far the only way is to change the colorblind in game setting

[cunning cedar]

The coloblind setting are just not good, they don't help.
Just give us the option to customize all team colors on our own

[daring fossil]

im getting really tired of shots just not registering at all.

[mellow linden]

In far future add custom game modes kit. Your community could create cool stuff. For example, parkour race game mode to practice movement.

[stable lagoon]

Turn Light's Grappling Hook into a gear so that can be used by Dash & Cloak lights for vertical mobility.

Then replace it with a new "Jetpack" ability that works similar to Pharah from Overwatch or Valkyrie from Apex Legends:

Q to activate/deactivate the jetpack,
LMB to slowly glide up while burning fuel,
RMB to spend a lot of fuel instantly to gain a massive boost upwards
Fuel regenerates slowly.

This would give Lights who using Cloak and Dash access to some much-needed vertical mobility, while also adding an ability that's more versatile and less situational than the current Grappling Hook.

[mental sun]

Having uncounterable wall hacks in this game is so damn mind blowing, who the hell thought this would fly? Oh but we nerfed it.. oh cmon man.

[stark turtle]

If so, why won't they turn the goo gun or the healing beam into a gadget? It pretty balanced now

[warm marsh]

again a useless update thank you!

[oblique notch]

make whoever is using recon visible to those who are detected by it.

[sinful gazelle]

hater baiter, you get no chicken dinner

[daring fossil]

man I appreciate trying to fix the multiple skins equipped bug, but what another nothing-burger patch. Kinda funny you're doing a wild-west style event, but the revolver is still garbage at hip firing and beyond 30m

[slender iron]

https://youtu.be/yguMTOYMXnc?si=J5zz94LphLJcmCyr

how is balancing so bad amongst different classes, i find it hard to understand how someone can survive 2/3rds of a mag in an fps game

my feedback is pls fix balancing amongst different classes, i understand its a team based game but when different classes meet in a 1v1 they should have an equal chance at killing eachother, the difference is 4 bullets to kill vs 18 bullets with one crit and still no death,

pls balance different classes

[swift horizon]

petition to add 3 dead statue in the win outro instead if you team wipe right before you win

[unique steeple]

Same goes for invis

[mental sun]

Yeah sure.. the visual cue.. the sound cue.. thermal and others.. no counterplay at all right

[silver wing]

still no Nuke removal 🤡

[supple aspen]

what does the finals next plan to combat cheater

[fierce geode]

Hi all! This has probably been brought up many times, but I was wondering if a lot of other people had issues with mouse lags due to polling? I reduced mine to 250MHz instead of 1000 in iCue (I'm using a corsair mouse). It's certainly better but still feels weird here and there...

[celest abyss]

Bruh that will ruin the game man , like cod is doing now

[eager shard]

this event feels out of touch

[severe wave]

I mean https://prnt.sc/zFV2koYWcfya https://prnt.sc/L5RewHqjr02k People say its the time but finals has such a low player count lol. I like the game but they dont patch anything since weeks. If they dont do anything in season 2 game will always have insanely low players. Only people who play now are the nuke people lol enjoy your game with 10k people. Btw one huge problem with a low player count is that you cant really add sbmm or ranked based matchmaking because its gonna take years to find matches.

[eternal depot]

there is some issue that called '' failed to join party''
how can we fix that can someone help about this secuation

[twilit patrol]

Yet another week. Week 10 to be exact. Where the DAMN SKINS OF THE STORE ARE WORSE THAN THE FREE ONCE FROM THE EVENT. Imagine wanting to spend money on a game but you cant.

[clever gyro]

The event loadouts are poorly balanced.

Lewis gun is the strongest in most situation by a lot which forces people to play heavy which we already had an event for so it's a bit boring.

Would've been really cool if it was an revolver and (medium) shotgun mode only to match the theme. That would've bring a really different dynamic to the game instead of just normal cash out with less choice.

[strong vessel]

I thought we learned from lights out that event loadouts should be remember between matches

[rose belfry]

where is the channel to report bug ?

[quick coyote]

No medium range weapon for light in smoking guns is crazy

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[rich fox]

shit hasn’t even been out for an hour 💀

[clever gyro]

Yeah but the current meta already exist for the weapons and nothing changed about that.

So when you have a revolver or sword against a Lewis. The one with the Lewis wins most times especially with the health difference.

I still love the game, I'm just a bit disappointed.

Was really hyped when I saw the theme and it's just cash out with less choice.

If everyone had a revolver it would've felt like a different game and we had to find out new ways to play, but now it's just lewis guns and snipers camping.

[eager shard]

this doesnt feel like an event just forced into using non meta guns with awful team mates

[upbeat urchin]

so sad the ray gun skin is not for the medium revolver 😭

[twilit badge]

thtis is what i expected the event to be tbh

[dull elm]

Wouldn't be surprised if they did this to gather more information on some weapons for season to and maybe big changes

[clever gyro]

Yeah I think they thought about it but wanted people to also play different classes then medium, but they also had an heavy only event so it would've been alright to have a medium only. And then the next light only. That way you can really discover the class more anyway

[flint badge]

YES

[queen cloud]

Faster pooling puts more stress on your system and this game is very CPU/memory intensive Soo it makes sense.
On my system 4000hz mouse works without issues.
I'd fix your PC. Because 250hz is way too low for mouse polling. You want 1000hz minimum stable these days

[full knot]

which mouse do you use? I couldn't get mine to run at 4k and I have a fairly high end system

[obtuse fable]

I'm using a Pulsar X2H Mini and have no problems with 4K Polling Rate.
I've seen some slight FPS Drops, but still consistent frames.

2K is a sweet spot for THE FINALS in my opinion.

My System isn't even that strong either:

Ryzen 9 3900X
RTX 3060

[peak delta]

i appreciate the new update and know the dev team is working hard making a great game. but i was in the middle of a game and it kicked me out for the update and lost me -1500 point demoting me back to diamond 4. Is there anyway i can send in the report log? or can someone point me in the right direction?

[kind swallow]

We have 2 in our team, we shouldnt be getting fulll team wipe penalties!!!
also, make it so we can flashbang turrets!!

[torn spade]

PLEASE stop punishing people for crashing, you lose progress of multiple tournament wins if your game crashes atm...

[full knot]

Yeah 2k is good. I'm using an ultralightx with a 7700x & 7800xt at 2k polling no issues, just wondering if anyone has been able to use 4k or 8k consistently. It doesn't really matter at all to me since basically none of my games even run properly with it higher than 2k.

[dark willow]

Add kbm support on xbox and ps5 or i will quit

[wispy siren]

pls give us the "nukes" back

[dull elm]

This might be a stretch but in another game I play: hunt showdown
All xp is shared, including from challenges and whatever

Since this is such a team based game it would be nice to have
But idk it might not work out

[eager shard]

auto run bind, toggle run settings option, match info on friends list (maybe text), practice with team mates on self hosted maps?, customs, add a new ranked thats real (yes long que times)

[upbeat urchin]

omggg no please don't quit what will we do without you ? 😭

[real grail]

nah fr 😭

[rich pasture]

Still no South African servers

[sharp tundra]

please add to see if my friend is in a match and if in then how long and what round... If possible, add a spectator mode

[valid river]

duos on a smaller map

[shrewd vine]

Have they fixed the issue in ranked with people being suspended despite fully playing out games, 10+ teams in 1 lobby etc?

[distant wing]

Positive Feedback:
The new event and the rewards are straight 🔥 .
I want that the people that had the idea and made the gamemode + skin this great get a raise 🙂

[sly estuary]

Why cant we see steam profiles when we click on player name

[hollow badger]

Xbox pack

[rapid moss]

I agree, we need a team deathmatch gamemode that can act like a quarantine for the cod kids.

[daring ravine]

New update is great. Please add keyboard and mouse support to consoles

[blazing python]

The earned cashouts are just pointless points, it should be possible to buy skins or something with the real cashout you earned ingame.

[oblique pawn]

i’m dirty dan!

[eager shard]

no chance of playing ranked when theres an event. zzz

[sudden tangle]

Yet another patch without any balance updates. Does Embark actually think the game is fairly balanced?

[quick coyote]

last meaningful balance patch was in 1.5, they are really sleeping in this regard

[signal mica]

early next month is the balance patch

[whole osprey]

Take the back thing off the new event shirt

[past cloak]

Hey devs! Thx for the awesome game, love most things you guys do!

However, there are a few things that have bugged me every time I've come back to The Finals:

The main one is spawn location in tournament and quick cash modes, sometimes placing your team 200+ meters away from the active cash box when it already is halfway through, essentially dooming your team to lose the chance to even contest the point again in a lot of scenarios. Feels really arbitrary and punishing in a random way, and I feel can be a source of frustration in matches.

Regarding voice, I think that setting voice chat on by default is great for comms in general, I've found way more people that engage with it now. However, I think especially for console users it is too common to have someone where their comms are pinging constantly with someone else in their house speaking, fan noises, music, I've even had in the last match a guy whose breathing and swallowing noises were constantly in the background. Not only is it terrible for the person's privacy, it of course detracts from the experience of teammates and makes them want to turn off voice chat, at least for that match. I don't really know how it'd work, but maybe adding some software like Krisp (I believe Discord uses it) could improve the situation, to have only people's actual voice come through and not constant noises. Maybe automatically balancing sound so someone's mic isn't much louder than the other teammate would be good too, since you're leaning more on voice chat now.

The last thing is sort of small but I believe is important in the long term most of all. Some melee skins are really hard to read, especially the baseball bat skin for the sword and bamboo for the sledge. It's hard to gage when the charged attack is being prepared or is starting, especially for new or returning players. I believe there should be consideration of that in design, or the option to toggle enemy weapon skins for clarity's sake, at least in tournament mode.

[inland vine]

Hey I find it really coool that you add a lot of events.I would just recommend adding xp rewards on top for completing event challenges.

[rain gust]

The bullet dropoff on the AKM has no business being worse than the FCAR.

They’re both assault rifles that are the two of the most used in the medium class. The high recoil and visual recoil on the AKM is fine, easily worked around as trying to hit all 36 bullets on the magazine is rewarding. But the damage deducted from the bullet dropoff is unacceptable and too punishing for those who hit their shots at long range with the high recoil AKM.

[manic prairie]

team spawn time in smoking guns is way too long 😑

[thin edge]

I think the new patch messed up FOV. 100 feels like Quake FOV or something, super zoomed out

[sacred crest]

Isnt that a good thing though

[spark girder]

AK only looks bad compared to the most OP gun in the game. Both are way too strong compared to everything else.

How about for once AR’s have a weakness like all other weapons do.

[open sail]

you guys need to put "bannable time " for guys that left games

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[rain gust]

not true. you got the heavy shotgun and lewis gun that also outclasses the AKM in overall effectiveness. AKM just doesn’t take the heavy shotgun, lewis gun and FCAR head-on, rather playing it smart.

AKM does have a weakness. More than one. High recoil and visual recoil and bullet dropoff being worse than the likes of its fellow AR FCAR.

[queen cloud]

I have a few mice. Right now lamzu maya

[quick coyote]

More ads to boost playercount so I can find a match in less than 5 mins please

[loud night]

Embark if you're really gonna stick with using AI even for promo material you gotta do more tweaking to it, they got plankton rapping out here i know AI can sound more natural than what we're hearing in the trailers. would much rather actual VA's do the work but if not at least fine tune the machine a bit more

[worldly fable]

Soyjak and Chud player models please

[spark girder]

The thing is AK is only a slight downgrade to the fcar. . Fcar is picked over AK for its range even with a tiny mag. Giving AK more range would be unnecessary power creep.

I would put Lewis at #2 behind Fcar for best gun in the game, but heavy shotgun at the very least has significant downsides in exchange for its ability to melt at close range.
You can’t use the shotgun on any map or situation like you can the Fcar, AK, or Lewis.

But all these guns need toned down so other weapons in the game can be viable.

@sinful gazelle Vegas, outskirts of Monaco, suspended structures/moving platforms, etc. the shotgun is far less effective than Lewis.

Good players pick Lewis over shotgun but shotgun is still good, just situational.

@quick coyote my point is there’s a huge gap in the game between the power of the best automatic guns we’ve been talking about and everything else in the game.

[sinful gazelle]

Shotgun can be use in any map/ situation. It’s very effect and closing the gap to get close isn’t hard at all with dome, mesh, movement from the medium, playing in door cash out/vault.

That’s why good players tend to only use shotgun 99% of the time and not Lewis.

[quick coyote]

is not a slight downgrade, FCAR base damage is superior, headshot damage is insane, accuracy is superior, range is superior, the ONLY downside to use an FCAR is only the mag size and thats it.

[queen cloud]

You should try lewis... Slightly more dps at range than akm, more bullets, recoil is a bit worse but still really ez to beam really far away.
And you can carry a secondary gun(rpg) while having the biggest health pool in the game.

ARs should be versatile, it's an AR... LMGs should have more downsides compared to what they are now. If you have more bullets you should do less damage, especially at a distance or have a lot more recoil.
Having slightly worse hipfire with slightly more recoil is not enough. Most of the time you ADS with either of them and recoil is super easy to control to the point it's pretty much irrelevant.

SMGs like the XP-54 have faster ttk but worse at range(still good range). M11 even faster, but trash at range.
As they should, well balanced compared to ARs.

[solid narwhal]

I completely agree

[swift stream]

The new event sucks, why is everyone leaving the match, it's supposed to be a 3v3v3v3 but in my match it was a 3v2v1v0 so cool and fair, if people can't join after someone leaves, at least give them a temp ban for leaving the match

[worldly fable]

4v4 or 5v5 CTF, King of the Hill, Kill confirm deathmatch

[full kindle]

rework the grenade launchers so that they are impact grenades it would be so much easier to secure a kill

[eager vine]

Yeah that could be nice.
I'm glad that you change class, it's rare that I see people change class based on the team lol
I play medium but when I play ranked with 2 Lights I know we're gonna lose right away

[vernal phoenix]

Y’all are killing us with so many dope fits!

We just need more build slots!!! I have so many different outfits I want to create!

[violet elbow]

I dont disagree on the dropoff part but the AKM has basically no recoil past 10 shots

[paper abyss]

Would love to see the specialisations on the scoreboard, you can barely tell on the intro screen it's so quick!

Also, Canny might be a good way to get prioritised feedback - ideas can be upvoted if people think they are good.

Must be better than trawling here for unique suggestions/all the subjective discussions about guns.

[fervent vortex]

I’m so confused are people playing the same game, who tf would put Lewis in the same tier as the shotgun that’s wild, it’s literally the best gun tied with the fcar for a solid mile

[twilit wolf]

Please make penalties for leaving any match type. No consequences only encourage such behaviour

[static tusk]

The shotgun you can jump into a full team with your dom shield then wipe them all unlike the Lewis gun (only downside is that it is close range)

[wary bear]

Anyone here been in several ranked matches where a teammate has disconnected but not left so you are down 1 but can't leave because the player is still "Reconnecting" and end up loosing alot of FP. Would be nice to be able to leave without penalty after a teammate is not reconnected after a certain time

[sudden tangle]

why tf is embark doing fk all to balance for the 5th patch in a row now? I'm losing trust in the devs. I hope they are focusing hard on season 2, but knowing them, they will probably just add some cosmetics, some guns and a new casual gamemode. Class balance will still be fked, competitive will still be shit

[fervent vortex]

The shotgun kills everything since you have a mesh shield and mediums moving you around to close the distance, it’s busted

[timber dove]

Limited game mode is pretty fun but the Lewis Gun doesn't fit the theme. Heavy doesn't really have a gun that matches tbh.

[rigid vessel]

heavy's shotgun is most op weapon rn,i hate playing shotgun in any fps game,but its literally turn the game to ez mode

[unique steeple]

How many fucking updates is it gonna take for the loadouts to be saved on these temporary events

[eternal kayak]

That's a huge downside seeing most cashouts are cqb. The AKM also outputs a higher total damage per mag. That's why he says it's a slight downgrade. In my opinion they're catered to two different play styles which is why I usually say they're different vs better or worse. Is a car with a faster 0-60 better than a car with a faster top speed or vice versa? That's the best analogy I have for these two weapons. I'd rather add to this than wait but I want to say this game's most important moments are usually mid to close range. Most long range battle are wasted because of defibs and revives.

[crystal belfry]

heavy shotgun has been op since closed beta 1. the devs are actual morons its insane.

game has been steadily dying and they just do everything in their power to keep it dying instead of fixing the problem. diamond lobbies are literally aids, everyone plays heavy with shotgun or overpowered lewis gun. Its fucking garabage the whole class is garabage. Cant wait for this game to die, literally only so that heavy players dont exist anymore

[quick coyote]

the total damage per mag is meaninless if an FCAR is hitting all his shots on you which is the majority of the situations in this game, unless you guys are playing against low skilled players or on console
in most high level matches i have is just a matter of who is laser beaming the other first

[stable lagoon]

Bruh add an option to disable the effects on the event cowboy hat, and detach the back & crossbody items on the shirt

[dense dagger]

remove revolver distance damage drop the gun is hard enough to use already

[jade escarp]

i've finish the event tho, it only takes less than 2 hours

[fierce geode]

Thank you for your input (no pun intended). When you say "fix your PC", do you mean a potential CPU upgrade 🤔 ?

[shadow gyro]

beards

[eternal kayak]

I don't think positioning, movement and strat stops being important at any point in an fps so it can never just only be about aim and shooting. If total damage is meaningless then the 0.2 second dps difference is meaningless. Clearly every second counts in the finals so let me put it in context for you. Having higher damage per mag means I can support more, engage in more fights for longer and overall spend less time reloading than you. You're still talking about 1v1s a well coordinated team is rarely going to let you 1v1 so that extra damage comes in handy in the those times. Off stats alone you'll be spending more time reloading w FCAR and it's hard to argue that those are never crucial moments where a difference can be made remember we don't win off kills in this obj based game. To each their own I just notice a lot of guys don't really know how to contextualize the data and understand what it means in game.

[spark girder]

If AR’s/Lewis were truly balanced, they’d get destroyed with barely any hope of winning against a close range weapon at close range in exchange for their current ability to destroy those weapons at a distance.

Also, the single shot ranged weapons that take more skill than an AR would consistently allow the better player to win, not the one with the easier gun.

[crystal belfry]

deadass played 2 matches of heavy after not playing him for 30+ days and went 22 in one game and 27 in the other. In diamond lobbies btw. The charcter is so low skill capped andhe isliterally loaded with all the most op gadgets and weapons. his fucking shot gun 1 burst taps mediums and 2 taps light. Its the dumbest shit ever. the whole class is broken. The only reason why I dont play heavy regurly is because he is fucking boring because you just kill everyone. There is 0 skill needed

[nocturne flare]

No such thing as diamond lobbies, the game doesn't have rank based matchmaking, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you were griefing silvers and bronzes lmao

[quick coyote]

i do agree with you, a lot actually. sure, you can position yourself well and be prepared, its mostly what im doing playing as light. but im focusing on 1v1s because it just happens in a lot of encounters (ex: a decisive moment between last standing players during a cashout/a lot of choke points too) and you don't really have time or space to even find good cover

[coral axle]

Custom games, no more needs to be said

[eternal kayak]

Yeah bro you're right being able to kill quick does come in handy as well. I'm starting to think weapons are designed around playstyles rather than just balancing them amongst themselves. I think Embark has tried to tailor their strengths and weaknesses to how they want you to use it. All in all, I'm glad you're enjoying the finals and glad we got to exchange perspectives have a great day bro!

[zealous cloud]

Regarding consoles, i find it problematic to have weapon/function to be on the same button. I cant put down a barricade and switch to weapon without making a 180 turn (aim away from said barricade as to not pick it up)

[remote plinth]

why cant you cancel reload on the lever action shotgun?

[stable lagoon]

Agreed, they should increase the range to 80m at least, with 50m range even the shotgun is more reliable as a weapon since it doesn’t need aiming for full accuracy, not to mention the FCAR and AK which can just beam you.

[wispy steeple]

i still have frequent crashes and ping problems after this update, it started at update 1.9.0

[eager shard]

and ppl will main it now since ranked times are long

[unborn bison]

I my opinion i think heavy health should be decreased from 350 to 300

[jade escarp]

yup, and heavy is the best for this event

[upbeat urchin]

LOUDER, this is really annoying for controller, why not have the same button for interact and pick up items ?

[signal basin]

Again and again. Nerf ALL THE EXPLOSION IN THIS GAME.
It's boring. It's annoying. Unskilled. Just for people who can't aim properly and it's destroying all the fun in this game.
Mine explose to fast. Why C4 can't ?
Grenade launcher on M and H same bullshit.
RPG and Nuke too.
This is a FPS and everyone are just boom boom everywhere without any skill. You nerf the aim assist. Explosion should be on the same boat and be nerf too.

[wispy ingot]

Please add keyboard and mouse support on Xbox and ps5

[rough herald]

I kindda agree, heavy is a lil tanky and the light class is also a bit too squishy. we change light and heavy hp to 200 and 300 respectively
BUT light will bullie medium. balance is a house of card, lil changese can distroy the balance but i am hopeful (i still don't think the dev will do it tho)

[distant wing]

please make it so you can equip the black wings with this top, it would look awesome

[eternal kayak]

"M et H" "et" 😉 your french is showing. You're right tho explosions especially nukes are still out of hand.

[signal basin]

I don't know what you're talking about

[queen sentinel]

Hello Embark! I have a suggestion for the game. Please add three more slots for contestants. It makes so much sense to have 9 contestant slots since there are 9 abilities in the game, meaning you can have one build per ability. It's also really fun to make cool looking characters, and adding more slots to do that would be awesome

[rough depot]

new mode is not very fun

[vestal berry]

Embark, we need creator skins, especially (imo) an OTTR skin with his signature glasses.

[jade escarp]

i've done it, looks cool

[hard badger]

new mode is plagued by leavers if teamworks doesnt goes well. 3 matches played, 2 times leavers, and no backfill: NOT FUN...

[glacial knot]

OMG don’t underestimate light class with shot gun ,

[real garnet]

pls a littl ottr's Otter pet

[queen cloud]

i think 200 is a bit much for light. I'd say 175hp light and 300hp heavy. Or keep heavy's 350hp but nerf lewis/shotgun

[rough herald]

but its not Clean Numberrrrrr

[calm crystal]

Plus more slots = more skins = more money so like win win

[celest anchor]

This may be nitpicky, but the cosmic comfort set in the shop shouldn't be legendary rarity. The S.O. Sleek set has a unique model and different textures and is only epic max

[short dagger]

Add katana

[unborn bison]

Me, neither I just hate when I am light, I get destroyed by a heavy and frustrating cause 1) you need to reload before the are dead (maybe is the point idk) 2) they just spray you

[shut gyro]

120 fps on console please i hope i see it in S2

[rough herald]

you suppose to be 10+ meter away form the hip firing heavy bro, you'll be surprise how far the teaser shoot

[foggy orbit]

I thought backstabs in TF2 were janky but backstabbing in this game is so inconsistent it's infuriating, especially given how important picks can be in this game. The long ass animation with obnoxious melee lock takes so much control away from my ability to backstab. I would kindly ask if you can shed some love for the dagger and make the backstabs quick again, especially given how much easier cloak is to detect.

[unborn bison]

Yeee u don't say so

[rigid vessel]

man i wanna play M1887 shotgun with dash
it would be so cool
pls consider a game mode or make some weapons universal

[mystic briar]

no reload mode

[tawdry owl]

Dynamite skin for the grenade

[queen cloud]

play heavy

[silver glade]

idk how much its been discussed but "nuking" needs to be nerfed bad XD

[modern wedge]

PLEASE ADD FACIAL HAIR PLEASE EMBARK

a cowboy isnt a cowboy without a moustache

[marsh fossil]

Idk if it's in this channel I can't find the report problems or whatever it's called channdl
Why did I had one of my wins removed makes no sense
I had 66 and now I hv 65 wtf happened?

[glacial knot]

Bug report channel

[jade escarp]

#1201841543926005810

[hard badger]

please just add team deathmatch or deathmatch without objective so its will attract more people. (also bring different objective based gamemodes, but I am sure they will add that with season 2). And for the ones who are saying that they dont want it because they dont want it to be like call of duty, well most first person games have this (so its not cod related). People just want to try out different classes and learn the game without an objective. Also there are a lot of people who just want to kill without a objective and they dont like the game because of this. What is wrong with adding more modes that will attract a different group of people. Like we had gamemodes for solos that was good because thats also one group of people who just dont like to play in team.

Another thing is fix ranked (sure you guys will do that in s2)

And at last: nerf nukes (its no skill, they are way to ez kills)

[short dagger]

They should add a katana at least

[earnest ermine]

As like a sword skin or actual weapon?

[quick coyote]

you know whats cool spawing ass cheek to ass cheek with anothe rteam nice

[eternal kayak]

The dumbest thing about this new mode is adding the Lewis gun. Whose idea was it to ruin an otherwise single shot mode by adding a fully auto weapon to the players with the most health.

[bold viper]

what happened to the font size of the player names? at 1080p the text is so big it hides the opponents...

[frosty meadow]

Exactly man. But I think they're trying to fit the old western theme

[frosty wagon]

If a teammate leaves in a tournament you should be allowed to leave without the matchmaking ban. Its so annoying when someone leaves as soon as the game starts and then you have no chance of winning or even qualifying

[sage blade]

Add skill based matchmaking, my teammates are literal 10 year olds

[rigid oxide]

I liked that there was a feedback pop-up after my first event match

I really wish I could select more than one option. At least one good and one bad thing.

[whole ocean]

Same

[rough herald]

Texts chat.. need i say more

[upper citrus]

nerf fcar and lewis gun

[sudden tangle]

guys great news, embark said the game is perfectly balanced, they haven't done any balancing for 5 patches now! yay! we can all enjoy the game now!

[merry wharf]

I think a charm or something small that the Embark Team could give out to players would be really fun. Something like the Riot Gun Buddy. I just think it's a nice little keepsake for if you ever meet a team member.

[pliant ibex]

[viscid snow]

pls let us emote in the lobbby 😭

[bronze flare]

Add the feature to buy skins from the bundles separately

[thorny wren]

more events is a GOOD thing

[rigid oxide]

man, haters will always hate

the objective games are the big brain

they're dipping players toes into tournament if they've been shying away, it's smart design

[burnt zinc]

Increase the fire rate of the sniper, make a snipers only gamemode, I will be happy.

[short dagger]

Medium weapon

[twilit wolf]

opposing voice here - I love the amount and influence which explosions have on the environment. Please do not nerf them 🙂

[bronze flare]

Whats so wrong with them not having sbmm? Its wonderful, fresh for once and actually being able to relax unless you wanna play ranked, they have their own form and way to do the ranked matches and its nice and i havent had a problem with it.

[near snow]

man was i loving the trailer for the new mode, then saw it was tournament mode and got more excited, then i played a match and it was all heavies with lewis gun. you had a great idea then blew it

[vital coral]

How about Mute Player option

[sudden tangle]

any reason why we got yet another patch without balance changes? Any official statement? Does embark think the game is in a good state? Or is embark focusing on season 2 balancing, if so, add a roadmap! <@&1012034066876473384>

[signal pawn]

Is it just me or is everyone else's game also crashing?

[eternal kayak]

you can reduce damage to players and leave the impact they have on environments the same

[glacial knot]

Heavy is the easiest class to play not the best class, today i got killed by a light class in diamond lobby with shot gun he was so fast i was not able to aim on him.. now i decide to learn play light class like him with same weapon and same ability @sudden tangle i sent him friend request come we play together you can see how he play. He is the best light player i saw untill now

[sudden tangle]

not true. all classes scale indefinitely with skill. you say heavy is the easiest class to play because it is the STRONGEST class.

[tawdry mesa]

Smoking Guns - Best LTM till now!

[cobalt token]

play light because meduim looses every gun fight to a light... design is awful

[near snow]

CL-40 deletes lights (i dont need to aim that gud)

[tribal rampart]

Ran into a new sledge bug today, Some of my heavy attack hits give the coin hit effect (the coins splashing out of the opponent) but the hit does no dmg and no hitmarker, maybe it's a hitreg issue. They were 100% in range and should've taken dmg but don't...

[vital coral]

Changing the balance of weapons during the season is unfair and more than stupid.

[pulsar crest]

games pretty good

[zealous cloud]

I had a reason to test out a lot of weapons i didn't previously and loved it

[glass fjord]

when do i stop dying AFTER im behind the wall?
@paper stream weird cause other games dont have this issue

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[twilit wolf]

I agree that it feels unbalanced, but from my personal perspective it isn't that much often when nukes are happening to me and honestly, they almost always make me laugh like hell cuz it's just so comical to suddenly die this way

[paper stream]

When quantum Internet will be introduced.

[frail prawn]

Same error with Sword and dagger from Light, coin effect and sound effect but no damage at all

[astral frost]

can we have AUTO SPRINT

[signal glacier]

Teammates are consistently leaving... played 4 games and at least one person has left every game. The game I just played both teammates left as well as the entire purple team (smoking guns event) can you guys put a leave penalty in place or something? Its really bothering me atp

[wise falcon]

Did they fix the riot shield being impervious to mines?

[hard badger]

yeah its freaking anoying I know, I said it here also

[quick pike]

Gunplay would feel a lot better if every gun’s sights lined up consistently with where you’re shooting.

Also, more crosshair options pls! Static/smaller crosshairs would be highly appreciated. Perhaps a circle option?

[gloomy hull]

I have a bug to report

[twilit wolf]

I know right, I mean honestly if I don't sweat it always make me burst out loud with laughter

[lucid crane]

In my opinion revolver needs some change to its ammo (against heavy you can miss only one shot or shoot the head which is hard sometimes). I suppose its impossible or at least hard to change the texture and make it have like 8 bullets so maybe reload time? or something else. I usually die just because i have no bullets left. Its just hard to shoot while they are jumping or moving side to side.

[silk grove]

add private lobbies please

[severe isle]

event is fun

[grizzled torrent]

Anyone having 20 min queue times?

[mossy urchin]

I swear the servers have gotten so much worse

[toxic shadow]

this is an opinion for sure

[round folio]

This game is slowly getting worse sadly

[devout gull]

Yup, that sure is an opinion if I've ever seen one

[slim jackal]

To be honest, this game has already fucked me up, and I’m not even talking about the gameplay aspect, but about the technical one, I don’t know what else to say.
For almost two months there has been one problem: The game stuck while launching on the EAC anticheat banner with “Waiting for game...” and after about 20-30 seconds it quietly closes without a single error.
No matter what I tried, nothing helped, the game started working only after updates, and broke again after new an update.
So far the chronology:
1.4.1 - I download the game on this patch, the game does not laucnh
1.5.1 - the game starts working normally without any problems
1.6.0 - the game stops launching again with the same problem
1.8.0 - new patch and the game works again without any problems
1.10.0 - the update that came out today, I think it's obvious what happened, I'm again alone with this problem

I spent a lot of time searching for possible solutions, went throught all reddit, steam topics, official faqs, downloaded a million driver updates, disabled overlays, reinstalled everything I could...
But the only thing that helps is an update that magically fixes everything and then magically breaks it.
I haven’t found another more stable solution, quite a few people wrote about a similar problem, but nothing that I found helped.
Honestly, I no longer know what to do or what I can do. No matter how good the game is, this small technical aspect that keeps me out of play for weeks is incredibly depressing and saddening to me.
I built my computer with a powerful enough configuration not for this.
It's just a silent cry for help, another one here...
Perhaps someday the developers will fix most of the problems, but obviously not today 🥲

[quick coyote]

so youre telling me they add a whole new mode but decided to not fix the broken cranes, missing xp screen and broken throwables?

[solemn linden]

also trackiong dart still doesnt reload properly

[chilly bluff]

The game crashes during a rank match and I lost over 400 fame points . Is there anyway I can get them back ? Because I didnt leave the game .

[atomic drum]

no....

[eternal kayak]

Can we get a sword and shield skin for the riot shield? Random thought I never actually used it but if it had that skin I’d buy it and use it a couple times

[hard badger]

I'm glad smoking guns is for teams but only annoying thing is teammates leaving...

[twilit wolf]

or crashing, we already figured out that some users are experiencing massive crash issues, while others do not and devs need to figure it out

[subtle saddle]

Can we pleaaaase have better cross hair settings/customization

[grizzled torrent]

45 min queue and counting

[hollow mango]

your broken or on a wierd server

[viscid snow]

make ranked actually give teamates that are your rank AND STOP GIVING ME BRONZE 4 TEAMATES 😭

[cyan geode]

i was about to complain about terrible team mates then calmed down

[rich fox]

somehow i’ve never once experienced a bug while playing this game lol.

[slim jackal]

I'm happy for you but not with all my heart

[plain laurel]

The new contract skin button-up shirt piece should have the back portion thats strapped to it be turned into a back accessory so we can wear other back accessories on the skin

[grizzled torrent]

I guess you were right we changed the party leader and that worked for anyone that needs this we all restarted aswell

[tawdry bramble]

sonar grenades should be destroyable

[winged locust]

LAST TRY to safe THE FINALS: we need custom games and a functioning ELO based ranked system in season 2 or this game is going to die out in under 3month from now.

[timber ember]

Hi where is event channel?

[junior trellis]

Love this game so so much, but there’s one problem that me and my friends always address. Custom matches. I don’t know if people have suggested this before, but I feel like THE FINALS would be perfect for custom matches, loading up with friends, doing 1v1s. Not only that, it would be perfect content wise. Streamers or content creators would be able to host custom games with viewers which would be awesome to see. Like I said, not sure if this has been addressed before or been commented on but I think it’ll add another aspect to the game.

[hard badger]

why is nobody talking about the suspended structures that its annoying if you dont play medium u cant get up (if they breake ziplines, what they do 99%)?
I mean what can you do if ure light player and heavy player and no medium classes are in ure team? Because medium have launch pads and ziplines but thats the only class...
Can anybody help?

[viral pulsar]

Dude thats the whole point of those suspended structures

But to be helpful, as a light or heavy you have explosives that can damage the beams holding the support wire

RPG, C4, Breaching Charges, red cannisters, if you damage 2 of the wires the whole thing will fall down

[crude fractal]

Shoot wires

[shy walrus]

blow up the structure...?

[dusk forge]

Day 1456: Matchmaking still utter shit. Have fun newbies in matches vs Diamond cause the game is so dead they will just throw any ranks in matches together...

[keen ether]

Anyone actually got a performance boost from this patch? I feel like it's worse than before

[stoic marten]

I like how the new western mode emphasizes just how stupidly broken Light is

[dawn perch]

hey wheres the cool cowboy revolver skin from the trailer?
nice bsic black frame with tasteful wood grips

embark please
I just want a non-gaudy cowboy gun

@short dagger
we already know there a full samurai set since one of the beta trailers
katana skin coming later, posssibly next season

remember that you can just continuously edit your messages to have a conversation despite the stupid 15 minute chat cooldown

Jufa yeah thats an annoying bug thats been in since the last patch
pretty annoying when you're on the last page and have to click a bunch of times to see your current progress

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[quick coyote]

small gripe but whenever you open the battlepass it starts you at tier one which is annoying because I want to see the rewards I am about to get without scrolling a bunch

[paper stream]

No, you are wrong. Lights should be buffed to be able to one shot everything without aiming their mouse at the opponents. \s

[wispy locust]

would love to have the ability to scale down the hud especially when going for long distane fights where the health bar of my opponent covers them entirely

[daring fossil]

literally takes 25 seconds to run around a couple buildings to find 2 red canisters to take down the structure

[hard badger]

@shy walrus Yeah I can be wrong but I think c4 and rpg are not available in the new event. Btw I found a red canister barrel but it wasnt enough and I couldnt find more @crude fractal oh ok I didnt knew that

[flint badge]

Maybe have "effects" as a separate cosmetic option so you could use the cowboy effect without the hat

[junior sigil]

enemy team just spawned like 10 meters from me and my teammate. video - https://youtu.be/Y2f4hBfDbc8

[slow spade]

fr, people (vocal minority) are always whinging about problems that are solved with what the map gives you

[violet elbow]

it is incredibly refreshing playing the game without C4, RPG, Defi and Invis, actually doesnt feel like single pieces of util just completely change the match

[wispy ingot]

Day idk of asking where’s keyboard and mouse support for Xbox and ps5

[stone hazel]

snipers dont fit in with the fast-paced close-quarters pace of this game
it's not fun to play against enemy snipers or even with friendly snipers
they almost never actually contribute to the team
they just rack up cheap kills from people actually playing the game and moving between buildings and objectives
it's so unfun that i just leave games with more than one sniper now
i genuinely dont understand why this was put in the game it doesnt fit with everything else

[quick coyote]

the hitboxes of ziplines are unresponsive and hard to hit properly

[lavish shard]

You never play in bank it ?

[dry kiln]

New event is really not that fun.

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[elder egret]

Add more guns for light, and the other classes even though they are already OP

[hard badger]

Bruh stop the cap, as if you never are whining about a problem, grow up dude

[pure ore]

for the tutorial add a segment that shows you can grab things. Especially STATUES.

[tribal rampart]

50% of my melee sledge hits are not regostering :c please hotfix this asap

[slow spade]

am I wrong? no - read the original comment

• You're playing a game with a completely destructible map, people complain about crane light snipers rather than simply destroying the cranes. People complain about heavies using shields when you can just fill the area with gas or fire. People complain about walls of medium turrets when you can just take out the area with fuel rods. Cope and seethe.

[somber elbow]

Hey guys, do I have a problem or what?
When I revive my friend, the resuscitation stops half way
Sometimes for no reason and there is a second problem with the Internet
In the game, the network is good and sometimes it is weak
My internet is very good...?

[upper citrus]

nerf lewis and fcar

[stray axle]

Please fix matchmaking , it seems every single game I'm getting people who don't even know how to shoot , but I'm playing against shawk and his whole team

[modern wedge]

new event: flood

lower parts of the map become flooded, and only the high points are accessible. if you fall in water, you become knocked and take dmg til rescued

[astral frost]

sometimes it happens to me as well, res randomly stops.

[somber elbow]

Yes, I hope there is a way to restore the ammunition
Without pressing R because I am sometimes
I have difficulty focusing on an enemy or seeing shots

[hard badger]

But people mostly didnt think of that thats why they find it hard but not all people are whining like you said. You should have said some people and not people because I wasnt whining I was just asking advice here.

[slow spade]

that's understandable, I'll correct it

[halcyon hollow]

Please add a more detailed, endgame stat checker that shows damage for each class support objective assist the average stat of each category per game pls give the option for ppl to make it public or private also show all played seasons and the rank per season

[fallen sundial]

NEXT LTM EVENT IDEA

||Alien's Invaders||

[tawny oriole]

Crash issue didnt fixed yet , today i got 3 dc before last update less crash

[wet sinew]

A SKIN FOR THE RIOT SHIELD PLZ

[granite relic]

Please add a separate volume slider for air horns. The constant blaring of horns on death, squad wipe, new event etc give me headaches after a few hours of play.

[silver forge]

Teams are spawning right on top of people
https://clips.twitch.tv/DirtyUglyCattleVoteNay-C7_qswwDbHW7ZDnF

[slender iron]

CL-40 has direct impact damage of 110, heavy has 350 health, heavy can eat 3 entire grenades to the face, or he can even stand directly next to 4 explosions and still survive, i dont think i need to explain how this is unbalanced

[lilac smelt]

I know lack of solo mode has shown up on this feedback channel hundreds of times, but I'll say it again.... bring back solo bank it, or some type of non-team game mode like cash deathmatch. Thank you.

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[grizzled prism]

Hi there, is there any issues with finding ranked matches on EUW servs ?

[icy hazel]

im all for buffing melle weapons but aim asist on melees shouldnt happen in smoke gernades or smokes

[frail prawn]

aim asist on melee should be an option to disable in first place lmao

[mortal vortex]

Why Lewis? It's not even op?

[cloud vale]

literally the most used heavy weapon, 47 bullets with a medium damage and almost no recoil pattern

[upper citrus]

lewis is definitely op. it completely overshadows the m60 despite the fact the m60 isn’t even bad on its own. it shreds at close range despite the fact it’s supposed to be the long range counterpart to the m60. it really doesn’t have any weaknesses. even the reload is fast

[glad laurel]

currently there is a massive problem with this games main mode (in my opinion) and i will be going over what that problem is and what solutions me and a few people have come up with to solve this issue

the problem: in this game 3rd partying a team who recently wiped another team on objective is very effective. if you wipe a team and are low from that then the other team can just run in and sweep up your team with relative ease. here are some solutions to fix this massive issue:

#1: when a team 1 wipes team 2, team 1 will get FULL hp regen to prevent team 3 from sweeping in and 3rd partying the fight, giving themselves a massive advantage from team 1 being low. however, you might be wondering "what happens if team 1 killed 2 people on team 2 and team 3 kills the last person?" my solve for that would be that the team 1 did more than 50% of the damage to team 2, so they will be getting the hp regen.

#2: if you kill an opponent, depending on the class you killed they will drop an icon (im not sure what it would look like, but it will be the same color as their team color) and if you walk into it you will get hp regen. other teams cannot take your "health drop" (thats what im calling it for the rest of this post) but im not sure whether or not only the person who got the kill can take it, or if the whole team of the person who got the kill can take it. im leaning towards the second option, that the entire team can pick up the health drop. my reasoning is that you might be full hp, but your teammate might not be, and so they could take the health drop. i believe that there are some more problems, like "what if i kill someone and im super low but my teammate accideentaly (or on purpose) took my health drop even though they had almost full hp" and im not sure what you could do to fix it. you might just have to let it happen. also: if you are full hp it will not let you take the health drop. im running out of space so i will continue this after my chat CD ends.

[jagged yoke]

I like the idea of the first one. Number 2 just sounds like leeching with extra steps. But with mediums being able to heal, it doesn’t sound like the best idea

[mortal vortex]

It might be the most used but not the most op, shotgun is much better. In diamond and above you'll mostly see shotgun

[raven dune]

I feel like some games I get into it’s perfect smooth sailing but others I’m sitting there waiting to u freeze half the match

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[stable lagoon]

Embark shouldn’t added the Lewis Gun, XP54 and FCAR to the game; it killed the weapon variety for all classes in the long run. Now majority of players stick to them because of their easier recoil and more effective range compared to their counterparts, making the meta more stagnant and players bored much more quickly.

Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell they can remove those weapons anyways, they have already monetized them. But what they can do now is expand on the weapon subtypes like the automatics: shotgun, thrown and marksman weapons. At least that way the weapon meta will shift away from the automatics for 90% of the players.

[timber sage]

please consider buffing the AKM
i wish i were good at it but i find myself dying a ton because, well, i admit skill issue, but because the ttk i feel could be a bit shorter, and i feel like many are going for the FCAR still

[modern wedge]

oil rig style map with high tides/tsunami event!!! machinery is also operable

[lavish shard]

Akm is fine no nerf no buff

[upper citrus]

shotgun is also op and should be nerfed

[cloud vale]

depends on map, seul and vegas most players use lewis, monaco and skyway (sometimes) players use shotgun

[obtuse fable]

New Heavy Gadget Recommendation:

BEAR TRAPS

Takes 4 Seconds to deploy.
TRAPPED Enemy Notification.
Has 125HP.

Creates new defense mind games and stall potential for the Heavy Class. Would be a gadget that has useful ness that can be interchanged with current cookie cutter builds as it would be viable for all League Levels.

[fierce valve]

Gimme a Cancel Revive button. Let us ping stuff whilst dead.

[woven hawk]

I've asked this before on Discord, just mentioned it to Embark support: Bank It 2nd place should count as a victory in stats BECAUSE with 4 teams, the average player has a 25% win rate. An AMAZING constant winner of this mode could still have below 50% win rate AND negative K/D.

[lavish shard]

Heavy saison 2
Abilities leap ( like revenant or Winston)
Weapon RPK
Gadget bear traps

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[sullen sage]

Would love a better background for the icon on desktop - it's seethrough with a white icon, you can't see the thing. It's about as accessible as a braille turd.

[timber sand]

maybe have a 2x or 3x xp weekend for the finals battle pass or smth for a last send into szn 2

[dusk forge]

I overall really like your game a lot. But your MM is so unfair and disrespectful to your customers/players. Im tired of carrying low ranks through tournaments all day every day. This will even get hardcore fans tired and finally leave. You dont listen, thats a real shitty way to treat us players...after 1700 games i deserve some better teammates than fcking low ranks every second match!!!

[half zodiac]

Can I connect my pc account to my PlayStation account and play?

[woven hawk]

you need to understand how large groups of people react to changes. nobody wants sbmm. everybody wants sbmm. It's too tight, it's too loose. if they tighten it sbmm haters would complain, if they loosen it others will complain.

[undone lake]

Everygame high ranks want to be catered to but when the low ranks leave they complain about game population and the game being dead

[delicate pecan]

Why has my game connection not been connecting on and off in the last few weeks?

[next raft]

I think the Defib should be a specialization rather than a gadget. So then you don't have squads with Defib/healing gun combo.

[stray maple]

check wifi lol

[long burrow]

I'm curious if there was some adjustment to matchmaking as my games post patch have all been noticeably sweatier; to a frustrating degree. (just in quick cash)

[signal crag]

light needs a 4th dash

[quick coyote]

thats true, but being good at light is way harder than medium or heavy so its only fair its rewarded imo

[whole plover]

add a commend or bad sport button for teammates, bad sports get put with their kind and commended players get put with theirs too. label returns to neutral after 1/2 weeks

[quick coyote]

FIX THE SPAWNS BRO

in the same round 3 different times teams spawned literally on top of another bro (edit 7 times now)

[trail kindle]

FIX GAME LAG

FIX RESPAWN POINTS

FIX MATCHMAKING

[dusk forge]

if you would have read closely you would have seen that your comment makes no sense at all. cant be even more loose than it is right now. new players play against experienced top players every round. the playerbase is not how it was in the beginning. adjustments are needed for already some time...but thx for reading...

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[sand blaze]

WHY DO WE ONLY GET SKIN TIGHT PANTS? CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME FLARED PANTS THAT CAN COVER THE BADASS BOOTS WERE GETTING???

[upper citrus]

nerf fcar and lewis

[woven hawk]

of course it can be more loose. there's no one facing rank 1 in their first game of ranked. you also should know that most people dislike sbmm and want none of it at all. I personally want it tighter, but ANOTHER thing to know is that tighter sbmm is tough to get when there are 48 players in one match. do you want top 50 to wait for other top 50 players to ALL be online and queueing at the same time to find a match?

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[glacial knot]

Only heavy can kill riot shield easily

[quick coyote]

this square light in the selection screen

i think some objects around the map like drain pipes and such should have no collision so that you don't get stuck on a tiny detail of the terrain that you didnt see

[glacial knot]

There is a blue jeans 👖 and this new cowboy skin

[earnest badge]

hey so, awesome game. how about a 6v6 mode..?

[quick coyote]

wtf is smoking guns

[foggy orbit]

Most likely unplayable due to the existance of defibs

[upper citrus]

it’s basically finals but with premade loadouts but it takes out all the bullshit weapons and gadgets from heavy and medium. besides lewis gun but honestly who cares

[dusky plaza]

fr

[glacial grail]

pls make it so u dont queue into a game that has 1 min left

[soft gorge]

Dude, players have been asking since the beta, I don't understand how it is not implemented yet, why devs are ignoring this request. It was literally working on xbox...

[pseudo latch]

@soft gorge they removed it because it was never intended. Youre probably never going to get it.

[foggy thunder]

Time to nerf the stun gun.

[upper citrus]

this is so funny because it’s 100% true and speaks volumes on how stupid defibs are. gadget so op it would completely ruin the most requested gamemode.

[olive dock]

How much time until they nerf the heavy class? 💀

[carmine warren]

<@&1012034066876473384> Love the gyro, but when I ADS with it with the sniper, it feels like 5x more sensitive than normal. It's made the sniper impossible for me to use. Any insight? is this a bug? is there a setting I need to change?

[soft gorge]

It was so never intended that it was working as it should... Don't you worry, they are adding at some point, this topic is always coming up. If they added gyro we are not that far away from MKB support on consoles

[hybrid silo]

Grenade launcher suggestion: make it a sticky grenade launcher with a right click detonation

[crude saffron]

After playing for a while the game is feeling pretty frustrating and here are my biggest pain points:

1. I think explosive damage to the player needs to be universally nerfed on gadgets. mines, c4, rocket launcher, and breaching charge. If they're destruction tools first and weapons second I believe this would seriously improve the state of the game. Long ttk is good. Don't be afraid of it.

2. Light needs something to help with their sustain. I think their HP is good where it is but giving them a faster cd on their HP regen would pair nicely with the class mobility.

3. I miss long range recon senses, but I hate the walls aspect to it. Recon should go back to an info gathering utility with changes to butcher it's "short range wall hacks" nature. I'd go with a single mapwide sonar ping, show the using player the positions of all players at the time of the ping (no more showing position in real time. it's a shit mechanic and pretty much invalidates ambush lights). having 1 charge on a 10 or so second cd would probably be best. Return its info gathering and decision making aspect. Remove the combat effectiveness of wallhacks.

[upper citrus]

unfortunately they have said there are currently no plans to readd kbm to consoles. maybe if they add input based matchmaking they will. but i doubt it’ll be added if there is no input based mm

[clever hawk]

Damn, the mode without RPG, shields, nukes, stun gun, and defib is so much more fun

You can actually 1v1 heavies without them instantly taking away at least half of your health and then retreating inside a bubble

[stray basalt]

Agree with light respectfully disagree with destruction and recon.

[hybrid brook]

Dagger still doesn't show animations sometimes and it hits with no animations. Also backstab isn't 100% accurate lol

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[pulsar prawn]

events for bank-it would be sick, quick-cash sucks mud butt.

[soft gorge]

I know they have said that :/, that's why we are here asking xD. Other crossplay games have it (MKB support on consoles and input based matchmaking), Im sure the finals are going to have at some point.

[flat solstice]

If you're going to have a mode with fixed loadouts, it'd be nice if you could see the loadouts before queueing

[lavish shard]

Bank it best mode ever 👍👍

[frail prawn]

This, please, all of the melee weapons have this issue

Melee weapons in general need a little bit of love

• Dagger "angle check" for backstabs usually makes real backstabs to now work at all
• Sword is good tbh, only a couple visual bugs
• Hammer is good I think
• Riot Shield for some reasson lets a lot of bullets enter from the frontal side while doing alt-fire

General issues:

• Bug that makes melee weapons to deal 0 damage even when there's visual and sound effect
• Aim assist for melee weapons should be an option

[clever hawk]

Spot on. The chaos makes the game fun but it’s the destruction that enables the chaos, the extreme damage makes it unfun.

The game is far too much of a clusterfuck to be taking as much damage from it all as we do. Not just explosives but gas and fire too. It’s a huge reason Light feels so awful. So many deaths just totally out of your hands.

Destruction first, weapon second is the right way. There’s no reason for eg RPG to be such an incredible weapon when it’s already a great destructive tool.

I struggle to see Light existing without a 25HP boost and some minor nerfing to weapon (and ofc explosive, gas, etc) damage - including their own weapons.

It takes SIX bodyshots with the Lewis to kill a Light. Lewis has 47 in the mag. It’s like 0.6s to fire 6 bullets. It’s outrageous.

[idle birch]

All fair points I also believe that aim assist for melee should be optional

[woven briar]

Mouse and keyboard back on consoles please and thank you

[bold saffron]

Can't play on controller? L

[woven briar]

It was much more fun on m&k. The bindings on controller are ass and make it to where I can’t compete with my PC buddies anymore.

[old birch]

I wana see my ping and fps and i wana beable to autorun

[hoary hull]

Im really nota fan of my teamates bodies being able to block bullets - it makes sense but it's not something Im used to personally and I'd prefer to be able to shoot through them

[wheat anchor]

can we not add images to chat?

[tribal hull]

i shoot my buds on accident all the time

[vestal iron]

New game mode heavy should not be allowed to use the Lewis gun remove it and add an actual western gun for them

[crude brook]

the spawning system is so distastefully suboptimal
spawning near a cashout that's not going to be active for another 3 seconds
running to the next cashbox because thats the only thing to do when i need overtime to trigger for a chance in the tournament
and on the way witness a team spawn not 5 meters away from me

id love for these types of situations to be somehow mitigated
and for the next vault to show some 30 seconds before its timer starts (while a cashout is active)

[night geode]

Would like a "mark all as seen" feature for leveling/ battlepass rewards

[lapis belfry]

Day 8000000000000000000000000000000000000000 of asking for nukes to be removed

[foggy ginkgo]

I meannn dont try and solo a fat fck in a team game🤷🏾‍♂️ that’s ur first mistake

[tulip berry]

XD

[real crow]

Instead of giving the career level rewards like a free battlepass they should make it into a shop that you can buy using money from your cashouts. Would encourage winning more if you want to grind for a particular item

[clever hawk]

The game is clearly striving to have each of the 3 classes capable of utility and of combat, unlike a traditional team game where characters with utility trade it for their effectiveness in combat.

Except Heavy is extremely overbearing in both categories whilst Light is gimped when it comes to utility.

[regal ibex]

would be cool suggestion if the map suddenly changed mid game into the last money drop to hype up the battlefield for the contestants

[inner coral]

im assuming the only reason theyre doing this Heavy solos on new map + new limited mode is just to gather data and weed out balance issues disguised as a limited mode with "fun twist"-
it almost feels like Season 1 was just Open Beta 2 (that's fine).

If the current limited mode replaced quick cash I think that would be a plus, minus the locked loadouts of course.
But we need entirely new modes on top of reworks to the main tourney mode (maybe role queue, and slight QoL adjustments to the mechanics surrounding the objective such as pausing/slowing the objective ticker when stealing).

• consider an extended battle pass sort of thing at the midway point to keep players who are "finishing up" invested for longer, for the past month or so I just came back for the events and quickly completed those in a 2hr sitting each.

thanks for the game, embark.
im still having fun just playing a lot less.

[icy anvil]

how about both

[quick coyote]

IM GLAD YOU GUYS ARE MAKING DUMBASS EVEWNTS BUT CANT BALACE THE FUCKING GAME

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-crying-baby-crying-gif-7234455624545360372

[quick coyote]

season 2 is literally in 2 weeks

[sour tendon]

would be dope to play this shit game and not get a integrity failed error every 5 minutes

[true harness]

OK, so not sure if we can share general community feedback as well, but why is the Embark team acting like The Finals is a secret or something? They're not engaging with virtually anyone outside of discord, and a user on Reddit pointed that out in regards to the community event that is currently going on, which most people had no idea about. If The Finals doesn't make it, they'll only have themselves to blame, because their social team isn't engaging anywhere else, and it's sad.

Also, as an additional point, allow users to update their Embark ID from within the game, because of the friends I was able to get to try it, several of them were "odded out" that the game wasn't even displaying their native usernames. Activision seemed to remedy this without issue. Not sure why Embark can't.

[devout thicket]

i bet it's going to flop hard

[short dagger]

Add katana and maybe skin?

[river girder]

Dudes complaining that lore isn't as open during season 1

[foggy ginkgo]

Not really light can do insane damage and they have good utility as well. I agree with the 25 health is needed and even a slight decrease to their health regen from like 10 to 7 sec but its still a team game if your trying to fight a heavy solo as a light that’s the first mistake you’d of made.

[clever hawk]

My point is that every class should be able to 1v1 another. This is clearly the intended design as they’re all damage dealing classes, but it largely fails in practice because Lights are underpowered and Heavies overpowered.

Having 1 class unable to 1v1 another in a game where there are only 3 classes would be terrible design if intentional.

[rough depot]

ive come around on the new mode, its pretty refreshing

[patent panther]

if you flank well you can even kill whole teams with light, if you go face first you usually suffer a lot (at least that's it in my experience)

[foggy orbit]

Lights can take on any class in a 1 v 1, but the approach to do it is differs. Light is always about picking unfair fights, fights that are advantageous to him, if you position yourself poorly and fight head on, lights deserve to be at a big disadvantage for it.

[native cipher]

itd be cool if you could buy cosmetics with cashout money, like for 10mill or smth u could get like a sponsorship offer thing from multiple companies, ud be able to pick between a few major companies and get a few unique cosmetics for that company. this could be released along with a limited time 6v6 mode, like team holtow vs team isult.

[thorny hill]

here is another POS FundedOrb#0440 - they literally just ran around the map following me and attacking me with barrels!! yeah, a 'teammate' - clearly just a HARD thrower! and the fact that support wont do anything about it means I am done with this game! Too bad, it had such potential, but yall refused to do anything about the A-holes ruinign the game and instead backed them... Good bye!

[peak delta]

woundering if there is a QA team i have a bug report

[rough depot]

theres bug reporting channels

[daring fossil]

fix the shitty server interpolation, im so tired of getting one-shot by the sledge hammer from 10 feet away

[stone hazel]

what is up with backfilling into games with 30 seconds left on the clock
i want to actually play the game

[clever hawk]

@patent panther An unfair fight isn’t a 1v1, that’s third-partying.

Yes, Lights can win 1v1s, that was never denied. But they overwhelmingly rely upon circumstance (third-partying) and cheese (stun gun).

Because the imbalance between them and in particular Heavy means they need to greatly exceed the effort of the other player just to win what should be a fair fight.

Heavies need 6 bullets or 1 RPG + 1 bullet to kill a Light. It’s totally imbalanced.

And the objective nature of the game frequently necessitates a more direct playstyle, which is where Light falls flat in an instant.

That’s part of why Lights barely exist at high level comp. They get shit on so easily and have little utility.

[scenic raptor]

The black and white taint given by the Gaucho Bolero (cowboy hat) from the event could've been a body paint to allow some creative styles.
This way we could make a B&W character without the accessories that have the old film effect on their own.
In a similar way, the sleeping sack could've been a upper back accessory.

Anyway, props for the set and it's concept!

[stone hazel]

i wonder if turning the stun gun into a taser would solve a lot of its complaints
since you would need to get really close to actually use it instead of giving you a free kill from any range

[upper citrus]

nerf lewis and fcar

[foggy ginkgo]

Heavys aren’t overpowered light are just underpowered🤷🏾‍♂️

[jagged cedar]

lights are balanced everything else is just unbalanced

[dusky venture]

the sound in the new patch is weird, it's like reverb but with mismatched bitrates

[teal flume]

enjoying the new mode! only somewhat gripe is from lobbies where it seems like all sr-84s vs sr-84s lol. kinda unfortunate if you go in not as light since the event is geared much more towards short ranged weapons outside that scenario, kinda understandable at the same time though since idk what other choice would have worked with light. always a good change up with events like this and the last one to break up the monotony from playing ranked over and over even if i only play it here and there. appreciate attempting to bring in fun/new/different stuff even if it is just a limited time thing.

[summer pilot]

This is the most bs comment I've ever seen. Light is the most played class and constantly one shots other classes not even including the fact that they have the most versatility in the game, it's an objective fact. Light is the most overpowered class in the game and the only people who disagree are ppl who main light class even though this game panders to light class. Medium doesn't even have a way to destroy structures in a game that is based on destroying structures. As a heavy there is no way I should be getting one shot killed by the lightest class in the game.

[ruby brook]

if you play more than 15 mins in ranked youll see how easy it is to sweep any team with a light the tradeoff used to be high dmg with low health now the weapons just feel underwhelming- i main heavy btw

[quick coyote]

bro it is MAINLY lights in high level comp. all you’re talking about is your own mid-tier gameplay experience with the class

[clever hawk]

Light is the most played class amongst casuals and by far the least played - almost extinct - at high end competitive games, where balance actually matters. It seems you’re one of the casuals.

@quick coyote This is objectively false. Meta at the highest level has always been any variation of MMM, MMH, HHM. Not a single Light.

[viscid owl]

finding this game through a streamer, got toe mighty am I glad to have found it, it honestly is the only other versus game I play other than like fistful of frags and counter strike go, I shit you not, there's just something fun about this gameplay

[jagged cedar]

there are almost no lights in ranked and there are even fewer in higher levels lol

@summer pilot unless im overlooking something the only 2 things light has that 1 taps anything besides other lights is dagger which can only 1 shot mediums and breach charge? Also this entire statement is just completely untrue besides the fact that medium has little destructive capability

[pseudo latch]

Day 13 of me begging the devs to give heavy a ks23 four-gauge shotgun

[barren fern]

@here thoughts on this? Reduce rate of fire or tracking speed on turret. decrease MP5 mag size by 5. reduce movement speed for riot shield. reduce how quickly gas ticks your health down. reduce lunge distance/speed from sword. increase light health by 20-25. also, for the love of god, please remove low gravity.

last edit. Please add the ability to join people's practice range

[foggy ginkgo]

L Take just like lights😂

[jagged cedar]

Qp warrior in question

[minor juniper]

two teams, one spawn.
that spawn is one of the worst in the game. hope it gets moved/taken out at some point.

[warm marsh]

2.3 gigs of "BUG FIXES" though.

Can still steal through walls, cant vault to rooftops from windows. No customs, No viewership, playerbase is rapidly dying for a reason.

Do people even know if you place a jumpad while holding the cashbox, and then take the jpyou cant even grab your cashbox.

Like do the devs actually play this game or care? Your game is dying and has no future if this keeps up. 12 more days till this ship sinks.

Holy shit

[subtle saddle]

can this game have more meaningful updates instead of color swap cosmetics and putting a cowboy hat on an arena statue. can we have like- balance changes???

like is the plan to only balance the game every 3 months? the player base is dropping and its cuz the updates do close to nothing for the state of the game imo

Like there is focus on adding Event Modes every other update which are just custom matches but you wont add the ability to make a private lobby and make custom matches ourselves?

It being a Live Service Game doesnt give you an excuse to just trickle feed content THIS GAME IS DYING YALL

[frail prawn]

why is there no option for "unbalanced equipment" or is it just a mistranslation?

[broken spade]

Ever since the update before last me and my friends have been getting lag spikes out of no where

[torpid shale]

Dont like the new mode. Playing for cosmetics and never queueing again

[wise falcon]

I think the new mode is super dope, no tasers, no nukes, no triple heavy dome/mesh shield, and no defibs. I think it makes the game more fun because it slows it down just a little. It's a nice change of pace.

[abstract harbor]

This new mode is probably the most unenjoyable thing I've played in quite a while. It's clearly designed for some sort of metrics collection or balancing research. I can't even be bothered to play this for the (poor) cosmetics. I hope Embark has something incredible planned for season 2, because this game has dried out incredibly fast. It's jus tiring to play solo, 1/3 of the classes are arguably unplayable if you actually want to contribute to your team, there's only one, MAYBE two solid weapon choices per class. Come on. 😦

[nova pecan]

We need to hear from the devs about the cheaters problem, especially in Asia server. Reporting doesn't seem to help since I've encountered the same cheater for 3 matches in a row.

A lot of times I got stuck in a tournament match with cheaters. I can't leave game, I can't do anything in the game b/c the cheater just go around and hunt people. And most of the time I have to sabotage my own team so we won't get to the next round.

[subtle saddle]

can this game have more meaningful updates instead of color swap cosmetics and putting a cowboy hat on an arena statue? can we have like- balance changes???

like is the plan to only balance the game every 3 months? the player base is dropping and its cuz the updates do close to nothing for the state of the game imo

Like there is focus on adding Event Modes every other update which are just glorified custom matches but you wont add the ability to make a private lobby and make custom matches ourselves?

It being a Live Service Game doesnt give you an excuse to just trickle feed content THIS GAME IS DYING YALL

[toxic shadow]

even excluding that 2 teams spawned on eachother the fact that spawns can be predicted and camped so easily when defending a cashout is insane, whole spawn system needs a rework

[minor juniper]

this is probably the worst in the game imo

[naive apex]

if your gonna have an event with certain weapons at least buff them as well and nerf them later to keep it interesting. Also can we play get a neon lights themed event and neon light lit maps added into a permanent queue for ranked and regular play as well as making neon light themed skins similar to that of tron? its a great idea and i have many more i can suggest as well as new maps and layouts i could provide exact details to in order to perfectly implemement, playtest and later add to the game and it fits the theme of the finals

[nova pecan]

Totally, they can make a crazy events with this game but somehow they choose to have an event with limited loadout and some new props on the map.

[willow bear]

Everything you said was bad aside from low gravity

[acoustic sky]

low gravity is fun wdym

[keen lily]

low gravity should not be in ranked, it just fucks up so much especially late game

[rotund bobcat]

https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz POSTING THIS FOR @sinful wind PLEASE READ THIS DEVS. ITS HONESTLY ALL FACTS AND VERY IMPORTANT. he forgot to mention shitty moving crosshairs and shitting tap sprint movement.

[frigid crest]

^^^ facts
https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz
PLEASE FIX

[subtle saddle]

please

‼️https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz ‼️
posting for @sinful wind

(and please add better crosshair customization)

[toxic shadow]

yeah all these points are 100% correct, hope embark actually takes a look at this pastebin

[harsh panther]

You can still vault from windows up to roof and medium is still far from balanced

[sinful wind]

No you cannot.

Anyway, I wanted to post it all in here, but I got gatekept by the character limit. If you read that pastebin i broke down the entire game for everyone.

If season 2 is a flop, its joever.

Add static crosshairs, add a BRIGHTNESS SLIDER ASWELL into the game!

Also why is there always a new BUG everytime a new update comes out, you can get rpg'ed through the heavy shield / dome . Like ugh!

https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz

[acoustic sky]

thats a fair sentiment, but i think its fun in non ranked

[swift horizon]

add rope spec that yoink things or players

[keen lily]

I also wish my rank would show as plat at the end game screen if I hit plat and get constant -65 now every game instead of showing gold

[late dome]

Can we have the black and white film effect added in the recent event as it's own "body paint" and not as part of the cowboy hat only? 👀

[subtle saddle]

If season 2 is a flop, its joever.

Add static crosshairs, add a BRIGHTNESS SLIDER ASWELL into the game!

https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz ```

please read devs we beg 🙏 
https://pastebin.com/UqwbUgZz

[wooden vapor]

It feels frustrating to hold a cashout for almost the whole duration and have it stolen at the very last second, maybe add small money bonuses for time intervals held or something similar?

[cyan lava]

what do you guys think of an auto sprint option when pressing w?

[twilit patrol]

I am sorry to announce that you have your "facts" wrong. Unfortunately when it comes to ranked, especially after gold/plat, you see less and less lights. In casuals (QC/Bank) yes lights are seen way more often. Lights are the only class that does NOT one shot anything apart from other lights ( I do not account Sniper because troll gun ).

Lights are not versatile at all when it comes to cashouts in all of the maps where the cashouts is in tight places (Not so much in Monaco/Skystadium) like elevators and Seoul because light cannot in 'n out that easily or have different angles to play from. Light is the worst class out of the 3 and this can be seen from the meta formed in high ranked gamplay where all you see is different variations of heavy and medium.

I am not quite sure where you are getting your "facts" but you sound butthurt more than anything. The mediums dont have a way to destroy structures argument is completely irrelevant and I do not see how it hinders the medium class.
Last time I checked it requires an almost full mag of the XP (not headshots) to kill a heavy. Not to mention Heavy got bubble that literally protects you. The time it takes light to kill a heavy, heavy can kill 2 lights.

[toxic shadow]

this is the most horseshit message ive seen in a while, lights are a throw pick in ranked and dont even onetap the other classes barring dagger backstab on medium (lol)

[slow zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[dense dagger]

@summer pilotmy guy only play Bank It all day lmao

[violet elbow]

this just screams "I wanna win my fights at the start screen where I lock in Heavy" and its kinda sad

[amber roost]

Has anyone had any audio crackling when playing for everything that plays audio?

[covert dagger]

DUDE THIS!!! This is the thing I've put in feedback the most. The spawning is so predictable I can team wipe out of spawns, I shouldn't be able to do that. That objective on Monaco is by far the worst for it. Just teams spawn rotating in behind each other over and over

[quick coyote]

ALL MY TEAMMATES THROW RANKED GAMES AND THERES NO REPORT OPTION FOR GRIEFING?????? 0kills 8 deaths 145 damage and I can’t report them in ranked for griefing and light is unplayable I don’t know why every light weapon does so little damage and how does a sniper not insta kill for a headshot on a medium (it’s literally a SNIPER) light feels unplayable now against everyone other than other lights at least increase the sniper damage

RANKED NEED TO BE FIXED IN S2 please set matchamking where diamond rank can only rank with diamond or plat atleast below that is too much, plat -plat, plat - gold silver silver or bronzes together something like this thank you embark for effort.

[daring ravine]

Add keyboard and mouse support to console.

Also if you think light is a throw class for ranked, its pure skill issue get better.

[subtle saddle]

yes u can still perform on light. orrr you can just perform on medium or heavy and be way more useful

bruh not this fuggin dood again bruh 🤦‍♀️
⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[errant flame]

DAY 1️⃣ 6️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 3-4 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[hallow ruin]

Agree with everything but not with "medium is the most balanced class"
He can literally do every job effectively and have a good consistent damage at almsot any distance (talking about FCAR)
And healing should be interrupted for like 0.5 seconds if the person that receives the heal gets damaged.

[toxic shadow]

16 days of horrible opinions

[slow zenith]

it's really impressive how almost every single heavy main has the worst balance opinions on earth, almost like the class is so busted that troglodytes can walk over lobbies uncontested and these same troglodytes lose their mind the second any other class can challenge them

[sharp tendon]

Put a themed moving platform chain on the Cowboy map so we can do cool Cowboy train heist shit 🤠

[mystic smelt]

OMG W OPTIMIZATIONS MY GAME IS SO MUCH BETTER GOOD JOB AND THANK YOU

[subtle saddle]

would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[frank oracle]

Deathmatch

[ionic grail]

The children yearn for titanfall movement (I also would absolutely love more movement abilities)

[subtle saddle]

LET THE DEVS KNOWWWWWW
THE CHILDREN YEARN FOR MOVEMENT TECHJ

[sacred siren]

I just wanna let embark know that they're doing a great job with this game. Love what you guys are doing with event skins.

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[violet elbow]

This perfectly sums it up tbh

[late herald]

In the new game mode Heavy builds can use the lewis gun. Surely thats a bug/mistake
Only automatic weapon and its super strong so if a team has 2 heavies its hard to out play them

[slow zenith]

in every game mode heavy can use the lewis and sa1216, surely that's a mistake

[wise falcon]

Sniper lights are out of control now

[river girder]

They do be cracked

[lusty kiln]

The spawn point is weird now. enemy can spawn right in front of you..
check this clip
https://youtu.be/uDLcipbKIUo

[shrewd tundra]

yep happened a bunch today

[harsh scaffold]

same saw it happen today

[coral axle]

fsr 3.0 please

[glad turtle]

Noticed the same. Literally everywhere.

[mortal vortex]

Bro what??? Think u got it mixed. Vegas u bring shotgun its one of the most inclosed maps, Monaco you can bring either due to rooftop fights and the floating islands but honestly look at any top ranked heavy, they use shotgun almost 100%, on every map.

[ebon elbow]

Pls add mnk support so we can play with crossplay on

Don’t really want to wait 40 mins to get into a game

[swift horizon]

why aren't the skin and the cowboy hat separated?

[high wing]

i get why this game is dying, not just to hackers but the netcode, the bullshit spawn system, hitreg not working properly, there are just so many fundamentally bad things that takes away from all the other fun things in this game. anyways it was worth a shot, lets see how good arc raiders will be

[nova geyser]

this game is dying . i mean how can u approve a mod like that. im used to play with Fcar and in the end there's only two weapons available . every weapon should have his own sensitivity , if u can't develop ur game for next season, just tell us

[rocky prawn]

so the game updated does this fix random crashed ,getting stuck , invite not working?

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[harsh scaffold]

I think the game can benefit from having items that spawn on the map and bring tactical utility to your team. They should take the same time as a vault and give certain utility, such as tokens for your team or individual or allow you to select an event like alien invasion etc. Nothing too game breaking. Forgiving a team who had to use tokens after being 3rd partied all tournament can be at a huge disadvantage in the final round. To be able to collect more tokens by spending time to open a box should be a balanced way to forgive teams.

[daring fossil]

stop backfilling me into a game in progress where every other team has a cashout and I have no team mates

[subtle oak]

Las Vegas spawns in a nutshell. Has to be fixed and not only there.
There are multiple spawns where you can just get shot off spawn by a full team standing on the building next to the spawn.

[woeful sparrow]

GREAT IDEA IVE BEEN THINKING THIS FOR A WHILE. and it would help with giving yourself an edge for an upcoming fight

[ebon elbow]

Pls fix spawns

[void scarab]

i'm starting to lose hope in basically every ranked match..
i keep getting bronze people who love to be in narnia and not playing as a team..
bonus points if they start complaining that "we are shit"

[shrewd tundra]

i like how im gold(got top 800 in open beta) and im versing diamond players while i have teammates that have never played the game before. i go play quick match and all of the sudden i can play the game and have fun a little, but as soon as i go back to playing ranked on asia i loose my mind + not having enough players in ranked on oceania is rlly annoying but i understand oceania is a small player base. idk what matchmaking they are using but holy crap i cant play ranked, i go play overwatch where im grand master and can still have fun as my teamates actually know what they are doing on the team somewhat

[rocky prawn]

plzzzzz add text chat . voice chat is so loud and broken which stll doesnt get a fix

[shrewd egret]

after the patch, at a certain range, the health bar is front of the ennemie body and we can't see where we shooting

[dull elm]

I agree with this
We really need a text chat especially for euro where many people don't speak the same language and typing is a lot easier, not everyone likes to talk to randoms in a vc and a chat would've saved me so many times

[quick coyote]

you gotta form your own team for ranked. otherwise its shite. use the lfg channels if you want a good ranked experience

[void scarab]

🙃

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[subtle saddle]

would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[grizzled sapphire]

• for that, sometimes I got bronze two, being on Platinum2, no offense but when I was on broze two I sometimes did not realize where the cashout is.

[fiery crescent]

something just happend to my the finals, it all RESET to a new game like literally new game. i already at level 50, but at the begin of the game i should choose one of the build again.

[fickle linden]

No, this is not the only place we hear your feedback, no worries

[nova geyser]

@quick coyote totally agree

[fickle linden]

Please check in with support!

-ask

[spiral light]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> PLAYER SUPPORT

Reach our Support Team: Link

Use the 💬 icon on the bottom-right of the page to send a message!

[violet elbow]

most Studios dont bother directly Communicating to the community to begin with and yall in here complaining, let them cook bruh

[quick coyote]

i think this channel is more to make it easier for them to better weight certain decisions, while they do listen to the community is quite apparent they have their own takes on the issues that pops up here and there
the recon senses discussion thing being one of them

i got reset to 0 fp several times , i also talked to support , they said they will fix it this update and now im back to 0 fp with a 2 hour suspension cuz of the games crash also i talked to support like 3 times and they didnt do shit , i love this game totally

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[fathom gale]

Yes also B O A T

[wooden holly]

i was playing the new game mode and i think have infinite coins would be considered for this event modes, cuz i get in a team where 1 was afk trolling just to get the missions of play some games, and the other one didn't care about reviving me, so i wait like 3 minutes death to get out of that game just by my team and i ran out of coins

[dusky moon]

Same error code after the update (TFAV1012)! any fix?? i did delete discovery and embark folders

[cunning barn]

Winning every game except when we get ranked with #1 and #3 player in the world on the same team then its a shitshow. Please fix your SBMM i should be in the top 1000 the way we be beating top 500 lobbies but still annoying asf when your top 20k and repeatedly facing #1 and #3 multiple times in a row. Might as well get off and play another time

[foggy orbit]

Like I said, if you attack head on then yeah you can't really, but if you use your specialization to get you into an ideal position, you can 1 v 1 someone with, no third party, no stun gun, you just have to get the jump on them first. Yeah its true you can't really 1 v 1 someone by running normally into battle guns blazing like a medium or heavy, but if light could do that and have cloak, dash, and grapple, he would become so overpowered.

[river terrace]

frag grenade underhanded throw way weaker than trajectory suggests. so maybe make the curve accurate or make the throw better

[errant flame]

The elusive pipsqueak with peashooters should do the least amount of damage.

[clever hawk]

So where else do you gather feedback from?

Because this channel is objectively awful for doing so. No moderation or formatting. Constant spam. Arguments. Memes. Ranting rather than constructive feedback.

The Reddit seems to have no official Embark presence. Your website doesn’t have any forums.

Perhaps Steam? Though I’m sure it has all the problems that this channel has. It’s very amateurish and only serves to shoot yourself in the foot.

EDIT: Thank you to @fathom gale below for demonstrating how useless this channel is for actual feedback.

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[lofty crypt]

More FCAR SKINS !!!

[fickle linden]

Entire server, and yes also Steam and other platforms. This channel is just a more obvious place to drop it.
That being said, noted on the complaints, we'll see what we can do to make it better

[dusky moon]

exactly, hell lot of errors and crashes happening in the game and nowhere to report or get a solution

[tropic tiger]

The office-chair emote clips through walls if i stand with my back up against a wall or corner and play the emote

could count as an unfair advantage, as my player-model would be hidden clipping inside a wall for a few seconds

[eternal beacon]

does anyone has a fix for muffled audio in game ? Can barely hear footsteps and gunshots

[river terrace]

same issue but only sometimes

[errant flame]

Give heavy a DPSing M11 equivalent.
@river terrace heavy is supposed to do big damage in close to close mid range combat.

[upper tangle]

A kill cam would be awesome 😄

[velvet moth]

So, lights besides having the least health, they should also deal the least damage. Marvelous idea!

[stable lagoon]

It's called M60, you can equip it in weapons tab under loadout section

[errant flame]

That thing has no DPS either.

[slow zenith]

nerf lewis nerf sa1216 nerf fcar nerf lh1 nerf rpg remove nukes remove defib and maybe then the game would be slightly balanced

[dusky moon]

anyone anything?

[river terrace]

heavy's weapons are supposed to be slow firing and deal big damage an smg with big damage would be op and wouldn't fit in the heavy class

[short dagger]

Good morning Embark, please consider adding and supporting katana for medium class

[clever hawk]

This is the designated feedback channel. If this place is flooded with wildly unconstructive behaviour I don’t see how the rest of the server can fare any better.

How can you sift through an entire server for actually valuable feedback when it’s unfocused and you must receive thousands of messages a day?

One look at Steam and I see just a single pinned discussion by Embark, dated December 9th. Almost 3 months ago.

The rest of the discussions are no different to here: messy, unfiltered, unhelpful.

And can you actually specify what you mean by “other platforms”? I’ve already noted that Embark doesn’t seem to acknowledge the Reddit, and their Twitter only posts announcements and nothing else.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[iron solar]

was just playing around in the practice range and i get ctd with no report 😦

[slow zenith]

lewis dps: 200
m11 dps: 272
and this is not accounting for the horrible range and recoil of the m11, does a class with less than half of heavy's HP not deserve to at least do more damage or should heavy just be the raid boss class that has everything besides movement ?
you already do big damage upclose you are delusional if you think you don't + the lewis should be a longer range option that is weaker up close (currently far from it) that's called game design if you want to delete everything near you the sa1216 already exists and is braindead OP

[spring vortex]

Can we PLEASE get an 'Equip to all" button for cosmetics? I am fucking begging yous

Patch six of begging to be able to equip costumes better.

[quick coyote]

they added something similar in the last update, in the equipment tab you can now choose which contestants you want to equip

[errant flame]

The recoil isn't bad.
No, he doesn't. Not only it doesn't make sense, it also devalues the speed/mobility/engaging/elusiveness-to-HP-tradeoff.
Yes, heavy should be like a boss within his zone of expertise.
No, you don't. Dealing 200 DPS up close is ultra pathetic.
And SA1216 is utter garbage.
@sinful gazelle SA1216 is an illogical and self-defeating weapon. It has a very, very poor firerate, damage and effective range composition/combination. Its DPS is good only on paper.

[toxic shadow]

"SA is utter garbage" instantly dismissed would love to see your gameplay it would explain a lot i think

[slow zenith]

aaaand you've just outed yourself as a terrible and/or clueless player, no point arguing further you clearly don't know anything about the game and how to play it

[true harness]

YES... PLEASE!

[sinful gazelle]

Sometimes I wonder if you’re trolling or not.

You saying that you have 200 hours+ on Heavy, but with these takes doesn’t match up. I starting to feel like you’re capping a whole lot. SA12 is easy the best gun in the game in terms of TTK. I would ether rank SA12 or the FCAR being the number one weapon in the game.

Calling it’s utter garbage means that you have truly never use it nor actually play the game / play heavy at all

[spring vortex]

@quick coyote It's a start but that's just for weapon cosmetics though. Arguably the section we needed it the least if theyre gonna release it seperately.

We need it in the Style section for Contestants. There's like 12 or more separate categories of clothes and body customisations, If I wanna set all my 6 characters to look the same, I need to go through 72~ sections to do it, and then I need to do that again for my expressions wheels.

[clever hawk]

He’s definitely either a committed troll or just a turbo brainlet.

His takes are so outrageous I initially sided with troll, but he’s played it straight for so long that I reckon he’s just smooth of brain now.

[brazen stump]

it feels nice to have an afk since second 1 and still get -80 fame points, now thats fun

[toxic shadow]

checked out his achievements and found a very good explanation

[slow zenith]

not winning ONE tournament in 357 hours of play is kinda very telling, he also clearly only plays heavy so he's very, very biased (needs his crutch)

[near ice]

Whoopie cushion gas mines when Embark!?

[shadow gyro]

beards

[errant flame]

SA is like C-tier at best.

[clever hawk]

Or he has hundreds of hours as Light/Medium but just has a 3% winrate 💀

[rocky anchor]

🔝

[quick coyote]

how did guys managed to find his steamid, thats a no no to me tbh

[upper citrus]

idk if this was said but because of healthpools, the heavy will still kill the light first despite the lower dps lmao @errant flame

[toxic shadow]

he linked it in this server himself

[burnt lark]

guys hes a troll, and he hasnt won a tournament in his life. who gives a fuck what he thinks. legit irrelevant

[violet elbow]

calling the most busted gun in the game "C tier at best" is very telling

[errant flame]

I'll quote myself
"Heavy has 233% of Light's HP, but light DPS alone mitigates this difference to Heavy TTK being 174-182% of light TTK.
Now factor in difference in hitbox multiplied by speed difference and add difference in recoil (which doesn't matter much only if light is standing still or runs in a predictable trajectory) and that's more than enough to easily contend with heavy.
Not to mention that Heavy's DPS is low in general: against other heavies and mediums, against turrets, not just lights."

[iron ivy]

add Wallrunning and Titans please

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[dusk forge]

matchmaking still broken, pls fix it. its ruining the fun for many ppl

[slow zenith]

boohoo heavy is only twice as strong as light what will you ever do (gutted class)

[upper citrus]

so, heavy still kills light first.. not to mention having 2 shields.. the bubble shield can be shot from and has an extra 300 hp. the rpg does an instant like 100 damage to light. there’s a reason you’re the only person saying heavy is bad. i’m not the type of person to say skill issue but you’re literally losing fights that are 100% in your favor

[jovial blaze]

How do you explain the fact that most ranked tournaments final matches are between mediums and heavies?

[toxic shadow]

well he doesnt, because he has 0 registered wins in ranked after over 350 hours

[short dagger]

There should be a katana

[storm hull]

You’re so right king 😫👑

[uneven rampart]

Couple of more skin ideas for you.

Fly Swatter skin for the sledgehammer,
Exterminator outfit to go along with it.

Popcorn skin for the MGL32 looks like a popcorn machine and spits out "popcorns" for the contestants to "enjoy"!

(This gun needs some love in both balancing and skin department. )

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking, please!

[rocky anchor]

[violet elbow]

Fly Swatter would go so fucking hard with a fit for just killing Lights, we need more funny outfits like that fr

[teal minnow]

NERF LH1
NERF LH1
NERF LH1
NERF LH1
NERF LH1

[foggy orbit]

You guys need to stop falling for this bait, he is there to attention seek and grab reactions.

[severe wave]

https://prnt.sc/6lTtFineIWZL If you stop texting bullshit all day on discord you might get a win in a ranked match. Do you have a life btw? This whole fk section is filled with your takes all day lmao do you just spam your texts 12 hours a day idk thats insane. @toxic shadow All his takes makes sense now tbh. Hes an casual who doesnt know shit about balancing. He always defended nukes and says nukes are dead because literally nobody uses nukes on quickplay and even before the nerf most people in quickplay are light players lol. Everything makes sense know lmao

[burnt lark]

its not just ranked its all tournaments, dude is like 0-267

[toxic shadow]

we finally found him, the true quickplay warrior

[errant flame]

Heavy kills light first if light stands still and hasn't initiated, otherwise light's advantages negate his low HP and he has at least equal chances.
Dome shield is ultra slow to deploy.
RPG deals colossal damage to self within its effective range or can be disabled entirely.
@jovial blaze Obviously, because other classes are more useful in teamplay.
@limber urchin Never booted ranked and don't plan on in the future.

[drifting mauve]

4 QoL options:
HUD safe area scaling
Weapon viewmodel scaling
ADS viewmodel scaling
ADS fov toggle to match world fov.

[sinful gazelle]

Maybe when you experience rank can you fully understand how bad your takes are

[upper citrus]

respectfully, buffs should not be given based on quickplay players

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[lyric valve]

Surprised that people still say Heavy is OP when they got nerfed like 3 times already ....... quickplayers bronzes crying about nukes

[slow zenith]

Nerfed 3 times and still OP, this comes from a diamond 1 heavy main

[echo viper]

My dude have you not thought of simply shooting the rpg at someone before they’re within point blank range

[severe wave]

Nah heavy is prob the worst class. Nukes should definetely wipe entire teams, rpg should get buffed to 200 damage, mesh shield should be 2k health. Lights should get nerfed those fk sword people man. Fcar shoould be 40 damage per bullet. Ngl this game will never be a competetive game. I hope they make some good casual game modes next season the ranked system and balancing in this game is absolute dog 💩

[errant flame]

Who else then? A bunch of digit wanking people overly serious about the competitive FPS stuff in a game whose real and foremost appeal is destructibility and wacky fun deciding the balance of the main mode?
P.S. The game does have a problem of not knowing what it wants to be though. Even putting the whatever competitive fantasies either it or its community have, it even struggles with teamplay & roles; and fun. You have a solo class (light) who also punches way above what its role, logic and description dictate, whose players have fun killing people. And the roles in general are messed up.

[upper citrus]

the game is designed for the ranked tournament mode and the balance of classes is designed for that mode. i said you shouldn’t buff things based on quickplay players because it will usually negatively affect the ranked mode, which your suggestions would. but they should definitely still nerf or rework the pain points for casual players that are frustrating. light isn’t a good class at all in ranked but is still extremely frustrating for casual players to play against. they should definitely look into that instead of buffing heavy to compensate, as heavy already terrorizes ranked play and light is rarely ever seen. not saying they should nerf light btw, but maybe rework it a little bit to be less obnoxious

[fathom gale]

B O A T
(Also imagine arguing with a 15 minute slowdown smh)

[prime dome]

I wish a pro scene could be established so that the mass playerbase will start to understand that light is actually pretty good in the right hands. The ability to deny other teams setups around cashouts is so valuable in coordinated play.

[fervent vortex]

I can’t leak but soon, very soon

[shrewd egret]

ok so after the last patch, the mm is fucked, we played only against cheaters ??? the health bar is front of the ennemies so we can't aim ??? Nerf c4 Dmg ???

[errant flame]

You or anyone else must be kidding and deluding themselves if you believe that majority of people who came into the game did so for competitive reasons.
No wonder game is 10-20k now, since ranked "elite" is killing its main mode (quickplay).

They should both nerf light (and give it more utility, although that's not necessary; if light carried cashbox, that's a success, his job is mostly done [greedy lights want it to be able to do everything though]) and buff heavy. The damage should go up from light to heavy.

[upper citrus]

it might be an issue if the viability of the entire class is dependent on one gadget. no one says glitch grenade isn’t good. yes people can make light work but those people would do 10x more on medium and heavy because those classes are just better and less demanding

[slow zenith]

It's true light should only serve as a vault delivery class, it's obviously very important and valuable.
And no the game isn't dying from ranked players in quickplay, that's called the skill floor of the game inevitably rising as with every game, it's dying from horrible balance that makes the long term playerbase (ranked players) leave

[spark girder]

There’s literally nothing “pros” can show us that wasn’t figured out in the beta about where light stands.

Some godlike player hitting the skill ceiling on light is going to do even better on a different class, and if they’re good enough to easily stomp other players, they’re not of the same skill level.

It’s 100% not a general playerbase skill or understanding issue, it’s simply the class is the worst at playing the objective, supporting the team, providing utility, and staying alive in teamfights.

[spring vortex]

Weird misogyny wtf

[fiery tartan]

it's really annoying when you are matchmaking, accept an invite, and then it says "match found" and it whisks you away.

The game should give notification to your match found game sooner, or prevent you from entering a match when you just recieved an invite

[sterile elm]

what is that trash mode they added? this is the worest mode they could have come with. 0 fun

[quick coyote]

i actually agree with you about this, finally

[prime dome]

The stun gun and glitch grenade are both incredibly valuable gadgets that the general playerbase do not use correctly. I respectively disagree that it’s not a 100 percent skill issue because I see incorrect use of the gadgets on a day to day basis. It’s fundamentally harder to play light. That’s why I believe a pro scene will help lights.

[errant flame]

Wdym "ranked players in quickplay"? You sure you got that what I said was ranked players deciding the balance of the whole game? Or did you just shorten it like that?

[vapid crystal]

If a weapon has a custom reload, it should be unlocked for the entire weapon and not just the specific skin. even if it makes it totally wonky.

[shrewd egret]

fix faster the bug of the health bar front of the ennemies pls, its unplayable 🙏🏻

[quick coyote]

I'm having issues getting the game running on GeForce Now. Anyone else? Everything was fine until this morning.

[slow zenith]

I misread and no the ranked """elites""" aren't killing the game just because the balance changes rightfully nerf OP stuff

[quick coyote]

Alright

[spring vortex]

Skill issue obviously

[pine perch]

Just had very broken match , why/how can i put video here? 😄

[kind epoch]

lmao

[errant flame]

Catering to lights is one the reasons why the game is dying

[tame pivot]

if you think the game is catering to lights you have never set foot in a ranked game and it shows lmao

[spark girder]

I’m sure there’s casuals out there that don’t know the value of stun gun and glitch grenades and in general don’t play utilize lights effectively.

But at its best, light doesn’t stack up and people have been saying forever “give it time we just don’t know to use light properly” like the light class archetype is a huge mystery waiting to be solved.

[rocky prawn]

after the update game not luancning its say cheat detected but there is none

[toxic shadow]

well... this is his achievement list, checks out

[slow zenith]

light is and has always been the objectively worst class by far, i don't get how anyone with a frontal lobe can think the opposite

[crude fractal]

It has a high skill ceiling

[burnt lark]

are you guys actually still feeding the troll?

[short dagger]

I think medium should have katana

[glad basalt]

thats just wrong. considering the game was stated not to be designed as a competitive game its targeting the average audience; the people who jump on for an hour or two after work, the kids who want to have fun with their mates on the new game after school and on weekends, etc. Not the jobless nerds who waste away at their desk playing games all day and night.
If thats what makes up the majority of the player base (which is it) then balance needs to be targeted toward those players to keep them playing, more time invested, more likely to spend money on the free to play game.
not exactly advanced, its the most respected free to play model at the moment

[upper citrus]

the game balance is designed for its ranked tournament gamemode. that’s not really a question. also, casuals are not the players that will leave because of bad balancing. the game has dropped over 80% of its players since launch and the quick cash and bank it queue times are still the same. but tournament and ranked tournament are up to 5 minute queue times now. it’s very obvious who is leaving and why

[prime dome]

I think that in the current meta/flow of the I agree with you that light, at its best, does not hold up with the other class. It’s easier to recognize the value of a big shield or an instant revive from medium or heavies because they are very good. However, I feel as if people completely neglect the fact that the light class is the ONLY counter to the meta compositions. Being able to take away healing and potential defies when pushing is just sooo valuable

[errant flame]

must be why lights numbers dominated pubs since day 1 and still do, albeit now contested by mediums

[mystic briar]

i like this game
👍

[thorny parcel]

Light kinda sucks as that.
Honestly Light needs more team utility. More fun movement options for Light mains. And heavily reworked casual ruining stuff like Cloak and Stun gun.
Lights pub stomp because they have tools that are unfair vs uncoordinated, commless teams. Which is the main playerbase of casual modes.

[slow zenith]

people in quickplay play what they find fun and it just so happens that light is the most fun class because of it's movement speed and abilities, wonder why you see zero lights in ranked (the gamemode where winning takes priority over fun), it's really not hard to comprehend this

[glacial knot]

If you need fun so dont play ranked because ranked is about win not about fun 😊

[glacial grail]

well said, light has bad stuff overall but stun n cloak make em seem op