👂┇game-feedback

[waxen granite]

Remove recon remove recon remove recon

[crude sorrel]

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[sour bane]

Suggestion for Defib nerf that won't kill the ability, but introduce a less crutch playstyle

If you are shot at, the charge you hold goes away. You need to recharge. I think it's pretty nuts that you can be shooting straight at Med, and they can still pull off the Defib, which gives the teammate Invincibility (and they can hide behind it like a shield).

This won't kill the ability, but will make it so it's used in a safer/smarter way, instead of it being a thing you can just Defib your entire team alive in the middle of a big fight. This also adds counter play against crutch Defibs, where you literally see Meds run into the middle of a fight, and just go for the rez.

[alpine jungle]

yes

[daring fossil]

nukes definitely fixed

[past fox]

What rank are u removing recon seems like a silver complaint

[indigo osprey]

actually too real

[twin hatch]

We really need a favorite friends option because some people add alot of players in lfg

[pale hawk]

Please fix the these horribly designed spawns

[quick chasm]

Combat sight is just free ESP?

[woven briar]

mnk on console? eh eh ehhhhhh?

[spice stag]

chatgpt working overtime on this

[waxen granite]

If i was diamond rank would my opinion suddenly hold more validity? The only people defending recon are the shitters that use it because they need a crutch. Map wide walls havks have no place in a fps game please go play your xbox cant wait till they nerf recon so casual ass crutch players like you can finally learn some game sense

[smoky storm]

I'm d1 and I want that trash ability deleted from existence.

[past fox]

Yall just cry about recon like its the only reason your losing. Then you cry about how recon users have no game sense. If your game sense was good youd clap recon users.

[astral frost]

People always find things to complain about…especially this game just come out for a couple months , it’s not like the devs are silent and haven’t push out any updates

[smoky storm]

m8 I roll most lobbies I'm in because I have good aim. With recon I don't need to think at all. It removes literally all non-aim skill requirements from the game.

For a game that would otherwise have a ton of skill expression in the form of game sense, decision making, and positioning, it just dulls it down. There's no uncertainty in fights or positioning at all, no such thing as a calculated risk.

It's a crutch. Only a complete bot would ever defend wall hacks. Idk why you would want something that's quite literally a cheat in every other fps.

[normal arch]

what's the point of nerfing revolver? It was already weak before

[waxen granite]

You’re an absolute clown and i can tell recon is a big crutch for you. A literal diamond rank player says he wants it removed then thats not good enough for you lmao you’re making excuses and coping for an ability thats wall hacks and acting like if you cant fight wall hacks then you must be bad. No man you’re bad and you sound stupid.

[quick chasm]

Auto vault needs a toggle

[real pollen]

Grenade launcher and Nuke meta is so toxic. At least in ranked.

[crude sorrel]

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[past fox]

Get rid of I dont care. Just everyone quit whining about it and adapt to the game. Ill play light against mediums with recon and still win. Like would everyone just stfu about recon? there gonna nerf it heavily or remove it so just learn how to play the game instead of complaining every damn second

[indigo osprey]

you cant point and click with it dumbass it still requires aim and some level of skill to effectively use it

[opaque patio]

thats literally what they said

[stone aurora]

I thnk what you want is a shorter self-damage falloff, if what you're saying is true would that make sense? I agree with you there, although not sure if they need to "reduce the self damage" to yourself when using it. Since I main light a lot I've noticed heavys pulling out and RPG and just shoot me I die instantly but they still live and I was literally right in front of them it's kinda crazy frustrating is all. I think if you shoot an RPG at someone that's directly in front of you you should also die, like a kamikazi. So my point is, maybe shorten the falloff so it doesn't damage you from as far as distances but I think they should increase self damage the closer you are to an object or enemy, especially if there's someone right in front you. Little increase to self damage for RPG would be nice, not by much but just enough... If you go and main light you'll see.

[raven folio]

remove recon

[proper ridge]

They finally fixed the GPU crashes, well, at least for mine lol

[waxen granite]

“Just adapt to the game what rank are you?? 🤓 they’re going to remove it or rework it” bro you’re such a shitter i can tell. I cant wait till they remove your crutch.

[past fox]

I dont use it plus if most people want it gone then get rid of it. yall complaining about the game making everything a crutch im just saying do your best and get better homie

[near prism]

I’m medium main ( recon sense ) I can say that the recon sense requires some skills to use it effectively but it’s still OP and needs some changes

[halcyon hollow]

Kill cams PLS

[plain patio]

kills cams would be awesome - have the option to skip though too

[past fox]

Everyone agrees with me then say they disagree. Make it make sense.

[shell lotus]

Mnk support on console!!!!!!!

[waxen granite]

Okay. And thats cool but im not complaining about everything. Im complaining about 1 thing that i feel is absolutely wrong for this game. Map wide wall hacks isn’t great for the game and its good people are complaining about it.

[civic plover]

I would love to see custom games soon. Also options for those custom games like a damage slider, physics/gravity slider etc

[outer sedge]

i know im going to get flamed for saying this but i feel as if the dps for the m11 on light needs a slight buff, nothing too obsurd but just a very slight dps buff

[quick chasm]

a no gadget mode would be all i play

[turbid tree]

im gold playing against diamonds please fix ranked this is terrible rn, anytime i solo q its play guess the rank, when i get my 3 strack i lose to teams that when i look them up they are top 2k in the world. why put out a patch saying its fixed and its just not.

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1RgzJJObo-I3FF/d1337gOFii5R?invite=cr-MSxOaXosNjM0NTk1MDMs

[plucky torrent]

There's so many exploits with quick melee. It needs an cooldown or a delay netween attacks. Players cam cheat it by attacking with a sword or shield or sledgehammer or dagger and quick melee immediately after for extreme DPS.

[past fox]

Dope im cool with that but say it a couple times. dont be like @shell lotus who crys about mnk support for consol thats all im saying. Put your word in then dip.

[shell lotus]

I mean if I only say it a few time it’ll juss get buried, I mean I know it’s annoying to yall but it’s meant to get the attention, it’s really the same as every one else who spams their 2 cents on recon or sbmm

[silver blade]

Yup same, me and my friends are gold and went up against two top 10 diamond 1 players in the last round. This shit has killed ranked for me.

[cosmic pewter]

Yes please. Also, with server lists for custom games.

[quartz girder]

voice chat for xbox please and text chat

[plain patio]

c4 barrels need nerfing again. i have been playing heavy for the last 2 days and can still easily team wipe by throwing a c4 barrel. its an ugly strat and you shouldnt be able to team wipe just by clicking m1 and m2

[waxen granite]

Remove recon;)))

[patent wind]

let ppl go to the practice range as a party

[north marsh]

ingame text chat seems like a good idea

[old scroll]

Healing Beam turns into a lifesteal weapon when Solo

[past fox]

[lofty laurel]

Fax bro

[plain patio]

i agree an ingame chat is much needed. i wanna be able to talk to the other teams lol

[waxen granite]

All the toxic call of duty players want in game chat so they can spew their hate 💀

[sour bane]

in cod, all the toxicity is done in voice chat 💀

[odd osprey]

I just ate a suspension and demotion cause the game didnt connect me to the match after many attemps it never even loaded to the map screen. This has happend a lot of times now, is there some kind of workaround? I hate having to do a coinflip wiether or not im going to play a nice ranked game or get a unwarrented suspension shoved into my face for a server error.

[patent wind]

real

[plain patio]

yeah nah not really, i think it would make the game funnier and more socially interactive which definitely helps keep playing engaged in the game. some people dont want to use mics or straight up dont have one thats good enough to use. more options = better game. ive also never played cod before lol

[pine raft]

"We’ve also implemented crash fixes, and an adjustment to tournament matchmaking that will lead to tighter player skill-gap in tournaments."
This line is just a big lie. The first game I load into after a break i get a silver and a bronze on my team and face 2 diamond players in the final round. Stop fucking lying and actually make it fair.

[waxen granite]

Oh yeah well they already have voice chat. And people are free to use it if they want. Nothing is fun about being forced to read and listen to someone. And you haven’t played cod? Well imagine a bunch of middle aged men screaming and saying racist slurs while their thumbs slip and slide around their controller and theyre the most casual shitters ever.

[quartz girder]

the voice chat is broken on xbox. needs to be fixed.

[surreal dragon]

M1 Garand Skin for the LH1 Would be cool :)) The ping would add a nice touch :3

[sour bane]

MMM meta in ranked is awful. Just straight up awful. I thought I've played some pretty bad metas in other FPS games, but I've never seen literal wall hacks implemented as an actual ability in a game, that completely nullifies an entire class (light).

Then you do get a pick, and it's instantly Defibbed. The only way to win a team fight is to kill a MMM team twice, because of 3x Defib.

Balance your damn game, Embark.

[plain patio]

should be a cooldown on using defib after you have been revived by teammate. would stop the MMM defib strat or at least make it more calculated

[sonic wave]

enough of nerfs and buffs. for real. start working at new map, new modes, new feature. like auto-sprint etc. you guys literally nerfs and buffs every week and thats insane! lol

[ebon peak]

Please add MnK support on consoles..

[inner quiver]

OMFG make Defib a Spec
Heal Beam is so stupid it literally takes away Defib's only con
The I-Frame nerf is not enough

[indigo osprey]

is all guys wanna do is to debuff a new thing every week

[plain patio]

disagree - new content would be amazing but i would much prefer a balanced game than them pushing new content and having a bunch of broken meta weapons. if you want that go to apex, not the finals.

[lost flare]

lawn gnome skin pls

[sour bane]

About that "tighter and more accurate matchmaking".. Why do you guys lie to us?

[worthy folio]

aw fuck yeah lois

[quartz girder]

ok embark. im solo queing as gold and getting nothing but bronze players on my team. what gives?

[cunning dagger]

Please remove this useless good for nothing L class. They are the most hopeless losers who just know to solo rush and die
Having an L in your team is 90percent of the times equivalent to throwing the match bcz these smart ass think they can snipe and run but in reality they just die with 0 kills

[plain patio]

i think thats just part of the game bro

[upper citrus]

or just nerf the other classes so they’re balanced instead and also give light more teamplay options

[quick dew]

hour 2 of asking every hour until they fix las vegas map

[glacial salmon]

Why the fuck they keep buffing medium weapons, their grenade launcher so op rn

[sour bane]

Yeah, I think I've given this game enough patience (120 hours, majority of which was in ranked. Solo q'd to Gold as Light), and I'm done until the meta gets better. Some final thoughts:

• Medium meta is bollocks. I've never see a meta this broken in a FPS game before and I've played them all. And I thought the Mercy or Triple Shield meta in Overwatch was bad..
• Ranked is a joke. Extremely bad matchmaking, queueing Gold/Plats with Unranked and Bronze, even after your purported fix. Tonight, all my games were with bronze/unranked teammates. What did you fix? (Screenshot above)
• Class balance is a joke. Light, while good in casual, is useless teamplay wise in ranked. Medium is utterly broken, and has everything -- team mobility, DPS, support, dev-sanctioned wall hacks, HP, and more. Heavy is the only balanced class in the entire game. If you can't balance three classes, I am not optimistic you'll be able to properly balance the game as you add more specializations, equipment, and classes
• The fact that Recon Senses even was released as an ability, and was okayed by the balance team, blows my mind.
• 3x Defib being allowed with zero downside and little to no counterplay is just straight frustrating to play against. You need to kill a triple Medium team twice to really win the fight.
• Spawns make no sense. It's very common to spawn two teams next to a Cash Out, while the other Cash Out has zero fighting going on. So one Cash Out has three teams fighting for one box, while the other is just twiddling their thumbs with a free win. Explain this to me please..
• Ranked is an afterthought and just a joke. I don't understand why this was even released when it's clear from your develop communication that you want this to be a casual/fun game.

Casual is fun in this game, I guess? But your ranked is a joke, and I don't see any time soon that it won't continue to be a joke. Peace out and continue watching your player numbers plummet

[cunning dagger]

Exactly, L class need team gameplay.
Game which doesn't even care about kills and only cash doesn't have any place for a class whose gameplay style is just kills.
They don't defend, they don't revive and you just have to keep reviving them or get team wiped

[quartz girder]

the only map in ranked seems to be las vegas for some reason, get it like 9/10 times i play tonight

[median ibex]

buff aim assist

[cunning cedar]

Here's how to nerf Defibs the right way to stop revive chains:

Add a few seconds cooldown to the Defib after being revived.

• would be cool, if we could have more weapon customization, pure cosmetic changes without affecting the weapon performance. (sights, suppressors and grips)

[sonic wave]

broken this broken that. get ur noob ass out here and go to palworld instead.

meta never ends. once the nerf and buff done, another meta will show up. just one thing, adapt.

nerf and buffs is good, if only every month or every two months. not every week. like wtf. you better do maintenance 2 days just to complete really balancing strategy instead changed it every weeks.

[pine raft]

u sound exactly like someone who only uses fcar and recon senses, stfu bot

[plain patio]

you can disagree without being an ass about it man. i get your point and thats fair. but no need for toxicity

[late dome]

Can we have monthly twitch prime rewards and more drops to encourage people to stream the finals and get it up on the hype train? I do my best with YouTube videos but we need to reach a bigger audience and keep them playing/ talking about the game! This game brought something new to the table and it should 100% capitalise from it and not let any of the other giants copy it and continue leading!

[blissful furnace]

Don’t know why you’re so mad but the game lost 83% of its’ playerbase so being toxic doesn’t help one bit.

[past fox]

your correct stop ruining the game lil baby bois

[random smelt]

Wait but he’s not wrong tho?

[wanton robin]

as a counterpoint to a bunch of the vitriol above, I’d like to say that I’ve been having a great (casual) time with this game; I love the aesthetic and the movement options, the destruction is fun, and the variety of loadouts keep things interesting. yeah there are balance issues but every game more asymmetric than like Go has balance issues. y’all should be proud of the work you’ve done so far and I look forward to seeing how it evolves. that said, I did have to mute the announcers I’m sorry 🙉

[dawn sand]

will the dagger recieve any attention in the new update? you can dash at someone face and get a backstab but you can look at a heavy in the back and get a backstab...

[dusk phoenix]

how come i cant talk in the finals, i have all audio setting correct, mic on, but it shows muted next to my user in the part?

[quick coyote]

REMOVE LAS VEGAS GARBAGE, map is unplayable, 7 games, 7 las vegas garbage maps, NO ONE ASKED for this trash!!!!!!!!

[harsh trail]

day 3️⃣1️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives overhaul to increase their viability

**THANK YOU EMBARK FOR IMPLEMENTING ONE OF THE REQUESTED CHANGES, BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.. **

the throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior.

some things that could be done to resolve this issue:

🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 allow right click to be held
🔪 tweak animations to feel more impactful, they feel very weak. almost as if you're throwing spoons 🥄

please show some love to this weapon embark! see you all on day 32!

[bleak coral]

we need spoon skin for throwing knives :L

[plain patio]

i would definitely spend like 10-15 bucks on some spoons lol

[soft wedge]

Put the game on ps2 😡

[left jetty]

Add more customization for the crosshair

[subtle tree]

why is it so laggy suddenly? been consistent since yesterday

[dawn sand]

what if you got rid of the auto lock on for the dagger when your super close to someone, or made the backstab a hold like the sword thrust

[woeful path]

@serene forum tell the boys yall need to look into ranked tournament matchmanking. its still a mess going against diamond ranks as a gold. making this very difficult to rank up . im being matched with silvers all the way up to diamonds... im a gold 3

[past fox]

check windows settings

[cold pilot]

deal with the cheaters
BAN WAVE WHEN

[bleak coral]

im d1 being matched with bronze 5...

[shy holly]

bro, like every ranked match the 3 teams just get 10+ kills on one person, and my team only get 5 max.. the cheats is so obvious but they're not still banned

[lime gale]

Fire the man behind balance, play fking ranked: 90% scar + 9% lewis + 1% useless light. GAME IS DYING HELLO, 80% less online since launch

[twin hatch]

10 kills isn’t a call for cheats 💀, bro just carried the team

[shy holly]

10+ kills, that means 10-20, with average of 15 kills 12k damage, on one person sometimes two person in three teams... imagine 12k damage on three or four people every match on gold rank

[edgy urchin]

The game is fairly balanced but there's still some things that should be improved in my opinion (omg guys i put bullet points so it means i have a valid opinion real)

• Lights are useless besides killing people randomly around the map, how would I improve this? give light something to support the team with. Medium has healing and revives and Heavy has shields that they can throw and hold up to protect teammates. Lights are virtually useless in gameplay they are like nats that fly around and annoy you but don't play objective or support their team mates very often.
• Just out right remove "nukes" or C4 on barrels. People would cry their eyes out and complain but it would make the game alot more playable instead of turning a corner and dying instantly without even having the chance to counter it
• The map Seoul has a major disadvantage when the cash out is on the far end of the map as crossing the large open bridge (the green one) to get to the building you often get sniped and the only way to counter is to either shoot back or use goo somehow but I think there should be more cover in that area
• Make the kill feed display all kills not just team kills and deaths. Im sure it was intentional to have it display this way but it would be alot more useful
• Put more spread on the scar for medium, I have a constant issue of someone beaming me from across the map without being to counter in any way. Just alittle more spread at a distance would greatly improve on that issue

[glacial salmon]

Remove recon.

[lunar plaza]

delete recon senses from the game. it's fucking broken

[dawn sand]

i dont understand why not just hotfix recon out of the game untill the update

[olive slate]

i hate that this game crashes and i get punished and suspended for it >;(

[quick coyote]

they banned absolutely 0 cheaters (reWASD, xim, debug and devchet still works as intended) but they suspending players for they own shitty code lmao

[wicked crest]

Please add a solo queue for ranked tournaments just like the ones we have now. Let teams who are talking and coordinating play against each other, and let teams made of solos play with each other. Everyone has a more enjoyable time and you definitely have the player count to support it.

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Red air canisters should explode on impact.
• Better optimization.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Goo walls sometimes placed facing wrong direction (vertically & horizontally).
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.

[rough ember]

Make recon like a sensor grenade that pulses enemies for 2 seconds and then a 12 second cooldown, that's the best way to balance it @hybrid kraken

[bleak coral]

dont tag devs
(they get all the feedback anyway)

• im almost certain they have it ready for this week already

[languid lotus]

Hi, stick skin yet?? pwease ;-;

[brittle harness]

Yesterday got some matches but many of them were plagued by cheaters.. The cheat situation seems only to get worse.

[lunar plaza]

still waiting for it

[rough ember]

All of nukes should be removed, period. Its just toxic use of it. If 50% or more my deaths in every ranked game is from a red canister C4'd, then something needs to change. Simply make it when a C4 is attached to a canister or barrel, make it drop like you are dropping it using the throw button.

[rigid vessel]

new match making change really increased the que time by alot

[quick coyote]

buff light pls

[bleak coral]

maybe play sniper sit on opposite side of map of everyone, then u wont get nuked 😄

[maiden ember]

Playerbase sinking and sinking ... they really need to turn the wheel

[acoustic storm]

If i was unclear, then I am very sorry for that. Yes, I am totally with you there. If the heavy is right on top of the explosion he should be dealt a lot of damage - kamikaze like. The problem is that even at the edge of the explosion the self damage is incredibly high - there is only a small damage falloff.

[earnest ermine]

People are playing the game less because it's January and people are back in school/work and don't have as much time on their hands

Also thanks for helping me fill out the bingo card

[dense dagger]

It's normal and it's good

[cold pilot]

imagine that someone got over20+ kills / 0 deaths with using light
even heavy just die in 1sec when against to him

[glacial salmon]

Im a light and honestly i just position well

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[waxen granite]

Remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon

[brittle harness]

ur getting carried then 😉

[earnest ermine]

That's a nice argument senator why don't you back it up with a source?

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:

• This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
• Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 seconds OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment

[cunning dagger]

Please penalize the leavers.
You should not get a negative rating if your match is starting with 2 players. There is no point to play this game like this

[fallow gust]

Please add mnk support on console Please add mnk support on console Please add mnk support on console Please add mnk support on console Please add mnk support on console

[rigid vessel]

not on oce

[proud kernel]

playing medium with recon and asking light nerf = biggest skill issue in gaming world

[torpid plinth]

LOVE AIM ASSIST SNAPPING YOU ONTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GUY THAN WHO YOU WERE GOING TO, GREAT GAME DESIGN EMBARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|

Lost a ranked game to this stupid ahhh mechanic

[cunning dagger]

THIS GAME IS DEAD.
People leaving in the starting of tje game just render the game useless and you hey negative points.
Most stupid logic of a br game
No wonder this game is dying. Shitty game shitty rules
Funniest shit is I cant even leave the match when I am the only person in the team, great penalizing stupid game

[magic herald]

make solo bank it have faster cash out time.

[hollow mango]

can we get a froggy head skin

[quick coyote]

Why didn't this game get rid of Nukes man, I don't understand why people don't get that Recon And Nukes aren't good

[torpid plinth]

Lets do a bit of thinking real quick, ill help you out i know it can get difficult

this game is dead
objectively wrong, this game is 34st top played game on steam right now, with 70k average players
people leaving in the start of the game just render the game useless
This is your fault for joining into tournament matches without friends, this is a team based game and the tournament modes are meant to be played seriously, so if you're not good enough to play solo, dont play solo in them, and instead play the quick cash and bankit mode
most stupid logic of a br game
This is not a br game, it is a class based team shooter game, can just be called a class based shooter
no wonder this game is dying. Shity game shitty rules
This is not a shitty game, you're just so brainwashed from playing the same cod over and over you dont know how to cope with an actually well designed game
Funniest shit is i cant even leave the match when i am the only person in the team
You wouldnt be the only person on the team if you didnt put yourself into serious modes without teamates, and yes you get penalized for leaving the tournament game modes, the same thing you were just complaning about other people not getting punished for

[magic herald]

Just region block China out of fuck, 90% of cheaters I met are Chinese id. Also stop using EAC neither BattlEye. I'd rather have the game access all files. Me still begging lower graphic option/optimization to let my GPU and GPU not run at 90 degree. @torpid plinth appreciate that.

[abstract elbow]

I think spawns are kind of terrible. 50 seconds left in the match, you spawn 200+ meters from both vaults 5 and 6? Zero chance to even attempt to come back in the game? With a game that spawns you so fucking close to cashouts in progress, the eng-game spawns make no sense

[untold pendant]

There's a glitch with the emote button and weapon switches that allows melees to fire twice as fast and making the balancing of the weapons broken

As a shield main, please fix this issue it will spread and will make genuine match ups impossible to fight from both sides

[twin hatch]

free methods

[torpid plinth]

its getting fixed soon dont worry

[uncut vale]

fix anti cheat or something i get too much hackers

[restive scaffold]

Lh1 fix/Rework

Rework the visual recoil.
It currently feels like you're being punched in your teeth every time you shoot, "don't get me wrong i like the kick", but it's just way to hard to hit anything if you're not very close to them in (full tap mode/intended fire rate)

Remove vignette
I don't know why there is vignette to begin with, But it makes it even harder to see anything to begin with when you have a gun that covers 89% of your screen.

Alternative solution
You could ignore the first, leave the visual recoil in, but then do something about the iron sights, they are unbearable. You shoot one bullet and the gun feels like it covers 95% of your screen, that does not help when you have the (Imo, the worst iron sights in the entire game).

My fix
Leave the gun as is, and just slap on a reflex/red dot sight on it with a riser. It would help with the low visibility, and it would make you hold the gun lower when aiming down sight, which in turn makes the gun take up less space on your screen.

P.S why does it have the worst hipfire in the entire game? It's even worse then the SR-84

[tawny oak]

the kick and the servers are weird, shots dont register or function properly, its just a thing with embarks trash servers, most of them are dog shit, especially NA servers, which makes 0 sense.

[blissful bridge]

Mode Rule Variations:
There are map variations and it would be cool to see rule variations in casual modes.

QUICK-CASH
"Over-Time Rule"
During this match the timer will stop while the Cashout is being stolen.

"Cashbox Money Loss"
During this match the Cashbox will lose value the longer it stays in the field.

BANK-IT / SOLO BANK-IT
"Vanishing Coins"
During this match dropped Coins will disappear after 5-15 seconds

"No Vaults"
During this match Coins will only drop from eliminated Contestants.

---

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

VR Bucks into Coin (3,000VR = 150 coins) or Cosmetics buyable with VR bucks or unlocked through in-game actions.
Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)
Replay Mode

FORGE MODE AND CU$TOM LOBBIES

[weak swift]

Want to throw chicken sandwiches at finalist with the throwing knives

[torpid plinth]

im ngl i dont agree with most of this, and ill explainw hy

Mode rule variations:
I think between the game show events, and the map variations, having the very rules of the game change in between games would be wayyyyyy too chaotic to have actual fun in

having the dead go boom trophies tick down to 5 seconds might be a bit too much, cause it would stop you for reviving(unless you defib) for 5 seconds, and that would drastically change the course of most games

having more contestant slots would be nice though, same with inviting people into the practice range
seeing enemy specializations during scoreboard might be too much information
VR bucks into coin and these other things dont make much sense, you already get a lot of free cosmetics as it is, but embark is still a company and does need to make money to support everything and make profit

And i would absolutely despise replay mode, it would make it too easy to copy and counter other player's tech mid game, which would really make the game unfun as a melee player who RELIES on tech to get kills

[summer venture]

Huh

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[stuck anvil]

Im sick of having to use latency and performace decreasing overlayed crosshairs. Please whitelist some trusted Crosshair programs that inject like Hudsight. Every other game does it. Thank you

[blissful bridge]

Replay mode = Theater Mode which is the ability to re-watch a match after it's over.

I think if incorporated correctly a mode rule variation could work, but I do know what you are saying.

I think the Dead Go Boom change would work great to help fix all of the complaints with that event.
The trophy explodes but doesn't disappear so you're still able to defib / rez teammates.
The trophies don't explode instantly which is the majority of complaints.
I do think this is a good change of course for that event.

A VR store or VR to Coin option would be nice, but either way the pricing of all the cosmetics needs to be lowered.
$20 for a bundle of digital items is ridiculous when you could buy a $20 game and get 20+hours of entertainment.
The over-pricing of digital items needs to change regarding the industry as a whole, not just this game.

Overall, I know what you're saying about the mode variations and event changes.
I think they could work, but you bring up valid points.

[mint island]

Big head mode - HP increased by 50% to offset the larger headshot area.

[abstract elbow]

lmao wtf skill issue 100% bro get good, this is embarrassing

[subtle schooner]

Accessibility issue:
Color blind modes are not good enough to provide the intended effect.
I have protanopia, and for the colorblind mode, i see many features that are unnecessary (such as item rarity colors, a general filter on the in game graphics), and a lack of actually gameplay-effecting features.

Biggest issues that affect my gameplay are enemy team colors as well as the reticle on the FCAR (possibly on other weapons too with a red holographic sight, haven't used them enough to have noticed).

Enemy team colors, even with protanopia mode enabled, are hard to differentiate. Colors such as red-orange and blue-purple get mixed up easily especially when using recon sense. The colors that i'd suggest that would be easy to differentiate for a person with protanomaly/protanopia, at least in my experience, would be:
Own team: Light blue/aqua
Enemies: Crimson red, Lemon yellow, Deep purple

For the fcar reticle, the red is very hard to see against dark surfaces, dark green foliage/bushes, and surfaces with a varying texture. being able to manually change reticle color would solve this issue, but if the color would have to be connected to the color blind mode, i would suggest a light green or blue with a darker outline. for example, the color of the reticle on reflex sights in rainbow 6 siege is very easy to see compared to red reticles.

[brittle harness]

queue times are getting longer... Not great

[stuck anvil]

Where did gameplay come into this? Galaxy brain

[vivid gulch]

add kbm to ps5 i can’t fucking play on controller

[torpid plinth]

The issue with the trophies is that now since they dont explode for 5 seconds, and rez takes more time than 5 seconds, you cant rez until the statue has exploded, which would snowball into team wipes so fast

[jolly gazelle]

is there is any tournaments coming in the finals soon?

[fleet pecan]

Not a major problem, but whenever I quick resume off of my xbox I fail to enter a match and get an error code it's just a mild annoyance and all it takes is me closing the game and reopening it to fix the problem does anyone else get this problem or is it just me

[abstract elbow]

cuz u need external programs to help u bro

[twilit sorrel]

The model 1887 needs a distance nerf. They’re using them almost as an assault rifle. I shouldn’t be losing to this gun from a medium range when I’m using the FCAR.

[proven pelican]

we need some post-battle pass rewards, extra currency or something to gain for going past the final level

[blissful bridge]

Dead Go Boom is unfair towards melee builds so there needs to be a delay in the explosion.
It needs some rework, but I'm just offering some ideas.

Dead Go Boom already snowballs into fast team wipes in my opinion.

[lament talon]

Yes but give good arguments rather than ranting

With MnK on console you should be able to only play crossplay and not on only console lobbies

[rigid vessel]

Yeah we def need a lower graphic option pls embark pls

[brittle harness]

Really i would like to finally get platinum but won't happen... The worst matchmaking ranked system ever existed.

[simple slate]

I want to be able to put both reload and grapple as x on controller

[ocean walrus]

Please fix the melee bug; it's incredibly frustrating to deal with and severely impacts gameplay. Close-range combat becomes nearly impossible due to this issue

[cold stirrup]

please add opacity controls to objectives :) having it lowered when ADSing is good and all but i dont want it at max visitbility at all times

[shrewd plank]

About me: I'm 25 yrs old from Hungary. I've been ESL winner in A.V.A., Black squad. Max rank in CSGO: Global Elite, Max rank in Valorant: Immortal 3 in open beta. Currently Plat 3 in The Finals.

I've a lot of experience about gun fights and there is a huge problem in the finals. The hacking. Free hacks avaliable on mpgh, unknowcheats.com and delusionalcheats.com. There is also a VIP hack for 50$ to use aim assist on kbm. I've met with opk, aimbot, wallhack users multiple times.

In a ranked tournament there is a huge chance you'll meet with a hacker team 1/16 in the final round. Very annoying to play for 40mins then lose against an obivous cheater in the final. Ruin the whole experience!

This game has a lot of potential and you should aim to make it esport. The finals will die in a month if you don't make radical steps. You won't be able to eliminate hacking in a fps game in 2024. But you have to reduce the number of hackers.

First of all, remove Aim-assist, its a fast paced competitive fps shooter. You need kbm, if you still play with controller you are a casual player and don't expect to be a top player. Players don't play fps games with wheels for a reason.

It's a f2p fps game with free hacks on different websites. Worst combination... We need phone identification or prime ranked for 10 euros. I want to pay so I won't meet f2p new acc hackers on ranked.

Private matches: Let us do scrims max up to 3 teams, minimum 2 players each team. This could lead to community tournaments.

Announce esport possibilities, host online tournaments with small prize pools. No game survives the first 6 months without esport activities.
All of this idea will increase popularity and decrease the number of hackers, so you can get a stable playerbase that enjoys the game everyday.

P.S.: Stop focus on item balancing, people will always cry about meta. The game is perfectly playable, not the gameplay is the issue that cause players leaving.

[normal turret]

agreed

[flint plume]

blacklist VPN softwares as u guys block reWASD

All the china players need VPN,(or "加速器" in chinese) to access steam,that's why your stats indicate cheaters are not chinese

and take back the random recoil pattern to prevent macro users, please

[near silo]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I've seen some list the fire rate of the FCAR as 600RPM, different from usual reported 550RPM? If so why doesn't the FCAR have the same firerate as the AKM? The other alternate weapons for each class all have a slightly slower fire rate, like XP-54 and Lewis Gun, except the FCAR, which seems odd.

If they do have the same rate of fire, the FCAR should have its rof reduced properly to 550RPM. This would put it line with the rest if the line-up of weapons, balance it better and align it with its real life counterpart, which seems what the goal was originally.

[main pond]

Every new season you should add a new "Level 6" camo to grind for. So essentially, next season if you already unlocked "Triangle Twinkle" you have an option to reset your weapon level so you can grind for another one.

This is so free to play players still have more camos to grind for on their favorite weapons.

[golden loom]

Hi, I would love for me to be able to put on the skeleton gloves and the watch at the same time. I think it may even be a bug. since im able to put on anyother glove with the watch

[low ingot]

I've been matched with unconcealed, obvious hackers for the last five rounds straight. Is it just luck, or is there some quirk of matching forcing me into these rounds so regularly?

[fiery harness]

im still seeing pc players that clearly use mnk have some kind of aim assist, i dunno if its stil REwasd being used but this has to be looked into

[ebon elbow]

Mnk on consoles

[lament talon]

Finals is loosing Players because there is no grind or things to unlock

Hours put in = Rank

Competitive shooter without custom games and grind is not going to work

[fierce flume]

having a ranked mode does not make it competitive. the devs care more about the casual experience. they said this.

[rare urchin]

ADD more weapons viable weapons - tired of seeing only FCAR / Lewis / Shotgun ONLY

[weak swift]

Allow heavys to pick up lights and throw em off the map

[lavish shard]

Next week you rework the recon its ok but rework the stungun too please 🙏

[queen cloud]

AK, xp54, v9s, lh1, cl40(broken after buff) are all viable

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[cunning cedar]

Laughs in APS

[torpid plinth]

This is NOT a competitive focused game, aim assist should not be removed, we dont need phone verification, we just need a better anti cheat

all in all most of these takes just seem to be disconnected from the reality of the average gamer, which is not what the finals is, and item balancing needs to happen? are you just crutching on recon and fcar and sad its getting removed?

Its not about not having a meta its about having a fair balance of the power of items, the fcar is better than every other gun in the game by far and has no weaknesses, which is not a theme the other guns follow, and its out of place in the game, same with recon

[queen cloud]

I agree with most things u said. U can play scrims now though. It's called qsnipes.

They need to fix balancing and listen only to top players and fix the cheating problem.
Aimsnap needs to be removed. Aimassist in openbeta was in a good state

[earnest ermine]

Random recoil is bullshit. There shouldn't be anything randomised when firing your weapon as it makes fights determined more by who got the less shitty recoil pattern than aim skill

And besides, that only slows cheaters down, eventually they'll find a way of replicating the randomized recoil into their cheats. Nothing is truly random when it comes to computers

[quick coyote]

calling rewasd a VIP hack
wanting phone verification for an fps (this solves nothing, just annoys people)

Literally every game you said you've played also has free hacks and cheats too, this is in no way unique to the finals lmao

I shall now immediately ignore you

[sinful gazelle]

Agree. Random recoil is bad. Even valorant at least have some fixed pattern even if at the end part is rng.

There is hacks that just remove recoil from their gun, and such things so. Adding random recoil won’t do anything at all to stop the cheaters

[solid narwhal]

The finals gore update?

[woeful perch]

Hello. I am a LH1 enjoyer/connoisseur. I have some feedback on how to make it "feel" better without hard buffs to any of its in game stats.

First I am going to talk about recoil. Do not change the actual recoil pattern. What I am going to suggest is smooth out the visual recoil. As it is right now, it bounces around on your screen way way more than the actual recoil it has. Right now it feels very very concussive. As someone who has actually shot an M14 irl, the visual recoil makes it feel like I am shooting a much higher recoiling rifle.

Second. Sights. Some people don't like them. I personally don't mind them at all. They are simple. They get the job done. However there are some modernizations you can do to make it better while still keeping the core sights. Here is my suggestion:

Make the middle sight pole red and have a slight bit of glow. There are many more modern iron sights that use this to make it more usable. Some modern shotguns are a great example of this.

Some people suggest a scope or something like a red dot or ACOG scope. I would shy away from this. While it would feel absolutely awesome, I think it would be too much of a buff. I personally don't want an LH1 meta on the level of what the FCAR is at right now.

Those are my two suggestions. I would rather see those quality of life buffs over a damage buff again or a recoil buff. Overall I think the LH1 is held mostly back by the light class and it's lack luster survivability. If the survivability gets buffed, then any actual Stat buffs to the LH1 could cause a meta dominated by LH1 lights and that isn't a great meta. Just like the current FCAR meta isn't that great.

[buoyant ore]

WE NEED NEW ABILITIES, WEAPONS, AND GADGETS

[torpid plinth]

the game is two fucking months old goddamnit we dont need all that yet

[proven valve]

This game would end up like apex if they added all that

[blissful bridge]

This game needs more maps, modes, and equipment but equipment last for sure.
I think a good way of adding in weapons would be as skins instead of completely new weapons.
The guitar and baseball bat are good examples. I'm sure the alien blaster will be a skin for the pistol.

New maps and modes will help keep the game fresh and provide players with a variety of way to enjoy THE FINALS.
This game shouldn't limit itself to one mode in all honestly, because it's mechanics allow for creativity.

I can't wait to see full on new weapons and abilities as we go into the future.
They're definitely trying to balance what they already have now before adding anything else.

I think the light should get a few teamplay gadgets added like perhaps a health/shield bomb akin to the vanishing bomb.

BASEBALL BAT NEEDS AN UNIQUE ANIMATION FOR IT'S HEAVY ATTACK

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[brave timber]

The gaming experience has become dreadful. Frequently, I encounter matches where players are using hacks, or simply lack any skill. The matchmaking system leaves much to be desired; as a platinum-ranked player, it's bewildering to be consistently paired with bronze or silver-ranked players. Ranks are supposed to ensure more balanced matches.

Furthermore, I feel the game is pushing players to form premade teams to have any chance of winning. This reliance on group matches limits the experience for those who prefer to play individually. The constant presence of hackers is also negatively impacting the game.

I urge the implementation of more robust security measures to prevent the use of hacks and a significant improvement in the matchmaking system. These issues are affecting the overall quality of the game, which initially promised to be a top-tier shooter. I hope steps are taken to address these issues and restore the integrity of the project. The numbers speak for themselves: from having 300k daily players to 40k, if they even reach that.

[lime fable]

I want some black jeans that arnt in a bundle costing 2200 why cant u buy parts of a bundle at a slighty higher price.

[ornate idol]

The black jeans you get from career advancement are nice. The ones w/ the holster. They may actually be really dark blue I guess?

Really I'm commenting here to say, I have a bug to report. It seems relatively reproduceable. If you press F11 to toggle full screen off and back on, you lose your hud and any markers (cashouts/vault). In reproducing the bug, I found that sometimes the game just crashes and silently disappears (discovery.exe is gone from taskman/processes) when you toggle F11 on and off. (Doesn't happen on menu, just during matches)

[manic prairie]

lewis gun has clitch when you turn mesh shield off and try to ads right away. it doesn't ads...and when whole team is wipeout if someone mark one place and you have 4 option to answer (okay, no, i cant and one don't remember) anyway when you answer nothing happen no voice or text confirm (least to person who answer) kinda hard to explain in this language but maybe you guy's understand.

[naive sierra]

Pls be able to change abilities before game starts even tho not in second loadout

[queen cloud]

• Revert revolver / cl40 changes;
• Fix anti cheat;
• Remove snap aim
• Rework recon
• heavy lewis shotgun could use a small/slight nerf too. Heavy still does way to much burst DMG for the amount of HP/tank class
  A tank class should be about sustain DMG, and using abilities to keep team alive. Not jumping team insta rpg+ C4 +Lewis/shotgun kill everyone with no effort/skill

[crude sorrel]

bring back bingo champion

[twilit leaf]

-60% player base in less than a month 🤡

[molten trail]

Text chat for teammates + proximity voice chat for memes and fun

[bleak coral]

1 new gadget and weapon... if neither are ur thing then thats no new content in terms of equipment e.g. gameplay. im personally wanting 1 new weapon and gadget for each class. but i know its just going to be 1 of each for 1 class and thats boring
would like new map

[acoustic storm]

Please remove the minimum damage on C4/RPG and other explosives. This would fix the whole C4 and RPG shenanigans.

Being on the edge of an explosions radius should deal near to no damage, and not a fixed minimum amount damage.

[quartz wave]

this makes so much sense and would probably stop ppl from crying about it so much

[blissful bridge]

This game needs more maps, modes, and equipment but equipment last for sure.
I think a good way of adding in weapons would be as skins instead of completely new weapons.
The guitar and baseball bat are good examples. I'm sure the alien blaster will be a skin for the pistol.

New maps and modes will help keep the game fresh and provide players with a variety of ways to enjoy THE FINALS.
This game shouldn't limit itself to one mode in all honesty, because its mechanics allow for creativity.

I can't wait to see full on new weapons and abilities as we go into the future.
They're definitely trying to balance what they already have now before adding anything else.

I think the light should get a few teamplay gadgets added like perhaps a health/shield bomb akin to the vanishing bomb.

BASEBALL BAT NEEDS AN UNIQUE ANIMATION FOR IT'S HEAVY ATTACK

---

I would like to see more interactions with maps too.
-Map Altering Destruction Points (i.e. Skyway Bridge)
-Overgrown Areas for Fire Destruction / Shortcuts Accessible with Fire
-Indestructible Doors / Control Areas / Togglable Traps (i.e. Turret and Walls in Las Vegas, Raised Bridges in Seoul)
-More Casual Interactions (i.e. Jackpots for example)
-Extreme Weather (Tornados, Earthquakes, etc.)

Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9

Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)

FORGE MODE AND CU$TOM LOBBIES

[cold pilot]

les see how sweet is patch 1.6.0 in next week

[tawny oriole]

The matchmaking didnt change as you mentioned in the update description, platin with gold 3 und bronce player in the same team. The machtmaking still broken

[tropic swift]

cry about it

[hushed edge]

Prioritize fps over visuals, I have a fairly average pc and I am getting 40 fps while on best performance settings and 800x600 display

[waxen granite]

Remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove revon remove recon

[dull hemlock]

proceeds to not list specs

[ancient flame]

A cool cosmetic thing to add to this game will be a kill effect. For example, similar to the finishers in valorant and the like

[karmic spade]

You have got to do something about invis. I know light is a weak class but it is not fun to die to invis. It feels like you have no chance once they start beaming you in the back. It needs to be reworked or removed

[lament talon]

Yes and they are trying guys, they are actively changing things.

But I believe the game lacks a goal to strive towards for competitive ppl and casuals alike.

If we can get things for both they Game would pop off

Battlepasses are boring for most ppl and especially competitive people since I finished it super fast without doing a single challenge actively

Im not Mad and I want this Game to thrive !

it is so much better than all the other big FPS games.
The ranked system is Bad and we need easy changes for it to become BIG

[fiery moat]

Noxiom#8690 CHETER AIMBOT HEAD

[fierce flume]

battlepass:

well then dont complain that there is nothing to do. you spend a long time doing the battlepass (its takes a long time) and now you are mad that you dont have anything to do.

[bleak coral]

"think the light should get a few teamplay gadgets added like perhaps a health/shield bomb akin to the vanishing bomb."

im thinking similar to the shield dome but for healing, it makes a small healing sphere that is small and a heavy can just about fit inside it - so you have to do it in cover and cant just dance around getting healed loads

[twilit leaf]

your the one who sounds mad 🤡

[blissful bridge]

The light is about movement so a gadget that forces the light to stay still to heal / shield wouldn't be beneficial to it's class.
The bomb variant allows the light to stay moving and provide team support that doesn't force them or the team to halt movement.
They should allow the dome shield to heal players who are inside it by a very small amount giving the heavy the stationary heal ability without creating a whole new gadget.

[lavish shard]

Next week rework dude

[quick coyote]

hi my friend has an xbox series s and i wanted him to try the finals and whenever he went to download it, it said that this game is optimized for the xbox series s and x and wouldn’t let him download it. does anyone know what to do.

[sinful gazelle]

#📧┇contact-us

[solid narwhal]

Get a newer gen console or a pc

[placid valley]

If they still slightly nerf medium and not buff light. The game will die instantly. not kidding.

[subtle niche]

Game is already dying lol. 60+% of the playerbase quit. SBMM tuned up so game tournaments take 3-4 minutes to find a match where it used to take < 1

[abstract elbow]

Las Vegas is just an awfully made map, shame on every one of you at Embark for giving it the okay. We abuse the terrible map design so much and win almost every game on it. It's jsut fucking terrible. There's zero chance the people that were making it did not realize that it was an absolutely horrendously designed map but were probably forced to push it out for the games release

[sick pier]

SBMM in general sucks the joy out of casual

[tropic swift]

cry about it

[smoky storm]

I used to think it was the worst map, but I actually think Seoul is the weakest now. Vegas still has issues but I think it ends up playing better.

Hospital being such an absurd power position, moving platforms, and under construction are all pretty unfun to play for Seoul.

Once sandstorm was removed I didn't mind vegas so much.

I think the worst part about the maps atm are foggy/sunny days, because visibility is so low that it negatively impacts aim. The bright sunlight interacts weirdly with dust and makes visibility way worse than expected. I think stormy days is also foggy.

The weirdest part is that nighttime has much better visibility than sunny day. This is the first game where I don't mind nighttime at all

[royal tartan]

Hey so I just ran into a issue where the game couldn't connect me to a ranked match and sent me back to the main menu it gave me the options reconnect or exit I tried to reconnect but it wouldn't work I was forced to leave and forced to take a suspension and lose fame

[tough topaz]

bring back mouse and keyboard support on consoles please!

[quick coyote]

C4's explosion radius definitely should be lower, the range of it is ridiculous, damage is fine though.

[placid valley]

Although the staff work hard, they seem to be careless. I still don’t understand what kind of data would lead to the 1.5 balance patch. Medium has been the best class since release date, and they still focused on the other two professions. Yes, cloak and C4 were annoying, but they didn't actually break the balance of the game too much. Most of ranked meta players use mediums for sure. If you care more about winning than killing, recon and defib are obviously more broken, as a balance team they didn't even notice them. I still feel that the balance team is inadequate and they will lead game to the death. They only nerfed 1 damage of Fcar in patch 1.5.5. like... wtf lol

They don’t understand that even without recon, Medium is still the strongest class because every weapon and skill is the most important in the game. RPG and shield may not always change the situation of the battle, but heal + defib can directly add a teammate to the team. And medium has the best gun Fcar in the game at the same time.

[lusty grotto]

It is very frustrating to play right now everyone with the medium and reviving each other and on top of that they go with the rcon it is impossible to play comfortably if they do not do something the game will die

[acoustic storm]

The problem is not its radius. But the minimum damage at the edge of the explosion

[waxen granite]

Remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon

[bronze pumice]

Remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon remove recon

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[quick coyote]

Everything you always ask for (besides having more than 6 contestants) is a massive undertaking for a relatively smaller dev team. Especially a forge like game mode, and custom game modes. That's not just something you casually add lmao. Maybe let the game get to a more playable state before begging for massive changes every day.

[abstract elbow]

Yeah, I feel the same way, Embark being careless. A lot of things in the game feel very half-baked and the plummeting playerbase reflects this. I hope it rebounds and things get overhauled, similarly to how they said they are working on a Recon overhaul.

[blissful bridge]

I'm just keeping the hype up for it.
It should be added in time definitely.

Most of what I'm talking about is easily added into the game.
Viewing teammate loadouts via scoreboard in-game, viewing enemy specializations, and enemy class while they are dead.

I'm not demanding new game modes and maps be added into the game this very second.
I'm keeping fun ideas alive in this sea of toxic balancing debates.
Those are for the sake of what we would like to see in the game eventually.

[woeful perch]

Wait did they actually remove sandstorm? Is that why it never pops up anymore?? I always felt sandstorm played the best for Vegas and tripwires plays the worst.

[subtle niche]

Devs nerf whatever gets complained about the most. Nukes were objectively unfun to deal with and were rightfully nerfed. It's not just balance that matters. Player experience does too. That being said, please nerf recon senses because I'm forced to run it every match or else I just get obliterated. Also it prevents me from actually playing light.

[shell lotus]

Mouse and kbm support on console!!!!

[placid valley]

I also think those nerfs are actually good, but like I said, that's not the point, it should be obvious from the data that Medium has been strong and the devs completely ignored it, which is what I can't accepted.

I have no expectations for this game now. If I could go back to the release date, I wouldn't buy so many skins because it's obvious that the balance team is a bunch of blind people. After so many complaints, the last patch only reduced the damage of Fcar by 1. wtf lol. Medium can still kill a light in 3s from 5364684 meters away.

[tropic swift]

I don't think making dramatic balance changes that could turn a certain class or a weapon upside down is very ideal. You gotta understand that expecting a sudden change in the meta in a short span of time could break the balance Embark probably spend a lot of time on designing and I think it's a little off if you say they're careless

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[proud ocean]

With less players matchmaking should be less strict… I only get lobbies with pro player even in quick cash. It’s been impossible to win a game in the last days..

[acoustic storm]

@dense niche

[smoky storm]

I didn't mind the map changes sandstorm made, but the visibility was so poor it just made the whole thing horribly unfun. If it was just like, the transformed map after the sandstorm swept through it, I think it woulda been ok TBH

@lament talon when it comes to recon, complaining it exists is objective feedback 🙂

and @rich fox nuke hasn't been effectively nerfed, it's just as strong as it's always been using the explosive canisters. Being nuked now is just as unfair as it was when the game released.

It's probably worse now because the explosive canisters are the hardest to shoot/deal with and now EVERY nuke uses them, so there's even less chance of potential counterplay than prior to the nerf.

[dense niche]

Imagine being a bigot in 2024

[waxen granite]

Imagine recon in 2024

[rich fox]

games only been out for 2-3 months and they’ve already released several updates that have addressed many players pain points…

nukes, aim assist, etc.

they’re well aware of the state of recon senses and even left us a little note in their most recent patch notes saying that they’re working on a complete rework for the ability…

i don’t understand how people can expect so much to be done in such a little amount of time. be patient, they’re working on it.

[lament talon]

Let's all stop complaining and give the devs good objective feedback so they will actually change it

AKM is stronger than the fcar It just feels strong because of recon idk what you guys are on about?

[granite topaz]

pepelaugh

[placid valley]

First, They don't spend a lot of time on designing because recon exists.

Second, I didn't ask for the destruction of Fcar. It only reduced the damage by 1, which is not a nerf at all.

People like you always like to twist other people's words into a favorable situation.
Just do it, the player count will continue to drop anyway, if they do something similar to reducing the recon duration by 1 next time.

@lament talon We have been giving them feedback, and they basically did nothing to Fcar at the last patch. So.. I guess the game will keep dying. Thanks to the balance team. ggs

@sinful gazelle It's not a nerf. That's it. Nothing helps. Have fun with the broken gun. Will you call reducing recon duration by 1 a good nerf? just nah, let the game die.

[sinful gazelle]

They nerf the dmg of fcar by one 1 dmg. Which I know it seems like basically not in but I think it’s a good nerf. Reduction dmg by 2 or more would be like nahhh. But I think fcar is defy in a better spot for balancing

[twilit lily]

Working on it doesn't matter if the player base is dying. Also, all those "patches" they released could've EASILY been one bigger patch. They are just doing weekly patches so it LOOKS like they are actually doing more work/communicating more often. But if you look at the last few patches, even the one with the LTM that's LITERALLY any other games SINGLE patch.
Also every single one of the patches for this game has LOST players. Not a single patch we've had made the player numbers go up. Every SINGLE patch we've had, we've lost more players, not gained any. Look at almost ANY other game on patch days+days after the patch. They GROW not lose players.
Also you can tell the game isn't doing great because if you look at Apex they have the SAME numbers as they did at launch. They even peaked HIGHER than launch about last year after a big patch. This game, every time a patch comes out we just lose more players.

[upper citrus]

it still takes the same amount of shots to kill every class. the nerf didn’t change any breakpoints so it basically did nothing lol

[thorn sundial]

Just finished a game where a team was composed of 3 light members with stuns, can’t pick the box, can’t cashout or steal cashouts in all the matches, aim assist god so nerfed we can’t do nothing against full@mobility lights, invisible lights, and every other thing, controller players pc doesnt have a chance against MnK players

[tropic swift]

Did I say anything personal to you?
My point is that making a dramatic change can be too much. Fscar doesn't have a lot of bullets so a damage change is especially sensitive. And maybe half of the issue you're having is skill, or recon that allows you to prefire or see through trees.

I will agree to the fact that Fscar's nerf didn't change as much. But Embark wants to take things carefully to prevent themselves making a fuck up.

[rich fox]

idk what to tell you then, man. i guess just don’t play the game if you don’t get any enjoyment out of it

[smoky storm]

healing beam:healing doesn't stack.Healing is paused for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg. environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd. Prevent mercy syndrome

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message
#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions:#👂┇game-feedback message

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[placid valley]

do nothing helps = careful
a weapon everyone uses = skill issue
twisting my words = saying personal to me

25*20 = 500
which class has 500 hp?

Ok, anyway. Epic logic, I can't win. lmao

[novel hollow]

Just deleted the game. The most unbalanced bs game i have seen in my whole life.
Mediums can see thru walls, place aimbot turrets, have decent hp and weapon dmg.
These devs must rly love their medium class.
This game is gonna die so quickly its not even funny, whats the fun if every game is a trio medium team dominating
On top of that, rank is not actually rank and its just a ridiculous sbmm.

[soft wedge]

Remove recon

[smoky storm]

pray for a complete removal and a new spec. If it's just a nerf or a small rework that doesn't fundamentally change it from a wallhack ability that gives ridiculous amounts of info, it won't address the primary concern.

Their "nuke" nerfs have been complete non-factors, nukes are just as strong as they've always been, if recon gets the same treatment as nuke does then it's all over.

The devs have made two major improvements to the game thus far and that's been nerfing aim assist and the double barrel. The rest of changes so far have been completely ineffective at addressing the root concerns/complaints, including nuke, defib changes and have quite literally not affected gameplay in any noticeable way.

[pure ore]

I think goo should stay aflame for longer. It's such a nice interaction for prolonging fire damage in non-flammable spaces but it's so short it's meaningles.

[lavish shard]

if the recon is reworked in mobile sonar range 15-20m the angry people against the recon would that suit you??

[wicked void]

revert revolver nerf, this is the most moronic change i've seen happen in this game

[tropic swift]

"people like you" is definitely personal. And I didn't twist your words, I literally agreed to it by saying that yes, the nerf didn't do a lot. And careful definitely doesn't mean doing nothing, here's a dictionary of "careful" https://www.dictionary.com/browse/careful

Shitting on me for twisting words while you're doing it yourself lol

[acoustic storm]

The problem with nukes/icbms is not the damage per se. It is the minimum damage they have at the edge of the explosion (which is roughly 5m,or so). They do approximately half of their damage at the edge of the explosion.
If they would remove the minimum damage and have a clean damage fallof then only direct hits would be the problem. Hits at the edge of the explosions radius would deal nearly no damage.

And after the last patch that nerfed nukes, getting those direct hits will be extremely hard. Thus quasi balancing nukes.

@earnest ermine
Goo hard counters sentries. A direct hit will render it useless. Most players just don't know this. The game rewards creativity.

[placid valley]

People always say developers need to be given more time, but look at the updates that don't help. Others even call them being careful. lol, even if we gave monkeys a hundred years, they wouldn't learn calculus, so does the balance of the game. Almost all the updates so far are ineffective except for the ones you mentioned.

This game only has some ignorant medium player left. What a sad game and its sad balance team.

[earnest ermine]

From experience they don't have exactly perfect aim and also emit a loud beep if they spot you so any decent player should be able to deal with them considering they are immobile

I'd also like to note that Heavy and Light have good options for dealing with sentries. Heavy has the RPG which does a lot of damage to sentries. Combined with the heavy's higher health means that you can take on sentries easily (also then Heavy's shotgun has the highest damage per second for primary weapons)

Lights have a glitch grenade which disabled sentries. Enough said

And he's while the playerbase has dropped a bit. Its not nearing the level of severity that would warrant calling it dying.

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[subtle niche]

I do think that medium is the most well rounded class and needs nerfs, but tbh...anyone just kinda deletes lights because they only have 150 hp.

[smoky storm]

It is absolutely the damage and it's radius combined with the minimal/impossible counterplay.

It's a high TTK game, having a single ability that can wipe an entire team, in a huge AOE, that has minimal/no counterplay does not fit in the game. Even RPG, which does a max of 140 damage, is literally absurdly powerful, one of the most powerful abilities in the entire game. Of course something that can do upwards of 400 damage in in a huge AOE is going to be broken.

The most recent nerf actually made nukes even worse than before, because the red/explosive canister is the hardest to counterplay due to it's ridiculous EHP, and now that's the only barrel that anyone uses so every nuke you encounter has virtually zero chance of counterplay, and it's effectiveness hasn't decreased at all prior to the nerf. If the red barrel could be destroyed in 2-3 bullets, some counterplay would exist occasionally.

Reducing the damage in the way you suggest won't remove the ability for the nuke to instantly delete a team. Being nuked less often(because you have to find a red barrel) is irrelevant, because being nuked is just as frustrating as it has always been. If you get punched in the balls by the neighbors kid, having it happen twice a day instead of 3 times doesn't make getting punched in the balls any less painful.

Devs need to take a look at the fundamental problem that the nuke causes, not tweak the numbers. The sort of fixes they should be doing are more along the lines of this: #👂┇game-feedback message

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[sour bane]

Yeah, I think I've given this game enough patience (120 hours, majority of which was in ranked. Solo q'd to Gold as Light), and I'm done until the meta gets better. Some final thoughts:

• Medium meta isn't fun. I've never see a meta this broken in a FPS game before and I've played them all. And I thought the Mercy or Triple Shield meta in Overwatch was bad..
• Ranked needs lots of work. Extremely bad matchmaking, queueing Gold/Plats with Unranked and Bronze, even after your purported fix. Tonight, all my games were with bronze/unranked teammates. What did you fix? (Screenshot above)
• Class balance is bad. Light, while good in casual, is useless teamplay wise in ranked. Medium is utterly broken, and has everything -- team mobility, DPS, support, dev-sanctioned wall hacks, HP, and more. Heavy is the only balanced class in the entire game. If you can't balance three classes, I am not optimistic you'll be able to properly balance the game as you add more specializations, equipment, and classes
• The fact that Recon Senses even was released as an ability, and was okayed by the balance team, blows my mind.
• 3x Defib being allowed with zero downside and little to no counterplay is just straight frustrating to play against. You need to kill a triple Medium team twice to really win the fight.
• Spawns are too RNG. It's very common to spawn two teams next to a Cash Out, while the other Cash Out has zero fighting going on. So one Cash Out has three teams fighting for one box, while the other is just twiddling their thumbs with a free win. Explain this to me please..
• Ranked is an afterthought. I don't understand why this was even released when it's clear from your develop communication that you want this to be a casual/fun game.

Casual is fun in this game, I guess? But your ranked is so bad, and I don't see any time soon that it won't continue to be bad. Peace out

[dreamy latch]

All grenades feel really slow and clunky to use, especially in between shooting and using other gadgets. Would be nice if all grenades went out just a tad faster, considering they aren't very strong to begin with

[tropic swift]

Going as far as comparing the dev team with monkeys says a lot about your logic. Avoiding me easily proves that I'm right. Stop making these toxic comments when people either disagreed with you peacefully or wanted to have a productive conversation for the sake of the devs understanding what the game needs

[placid valley]

But not from such a long distance without any of the sniper's flaws, the recoil & range of Fcar allows it to deal considerable damage before other weapons can actually harm the gunner. (except sniper) All 20 bullets can completely kill most enemies.

Even without recon it is the strongest weapon in the game as it is effective at any distance and the disadvantage of 20 bullets is not very noticeable because it is complete enough to kill any enemy, and medium actually has good survival and movement capabilities. If you carry a jumping platform, you can often even evade damage while reloading.

trash balance team btw. There are more and more monkeys showing up. 🤣

[golden iron]

What happens if the turret is on the ceiling? The glitch grenade blast radius does not stop them. Also wasting an rpg on a turret is not good. It’s better used as entry damage against enemies.

[novel hollow]

Bro, it needs to be completely revamped. It literally requires no skill to use.
And all these mines should be blow up after shooting once. It doesnt need a whole clip to remove it
I will not redownload the game until all classes are balanced. Smalls have practically no health, so why do they also deal minimum dmg? They should have the highest dps of all roles, not mediums.

@cyan totem they should keep heavies as tanks. But reduce their damage to enemy players, their role should be to protect and make enemies focus on them. Not one tapping smalls with sledges

[cyan totem]

guys, i feel like tanks should have 300 hp not 350 its too much, or they should make light class guns have a little more ammo

[viral pulsar]

Hey im not sure if any of the Embark team gets to read this but i thought this is the best channel to get the message through

You guys are some of the most dedicated developers I've seen, I wish you guys all the best going forward, this game has been a Gem, and a very enjoyable competitive shooter

I cant wait to see the PvE title you are working on! Keep it up, you guys are golden!

[smoky storm]

People seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the ranked system and MMR.

Ignore the rank. Rank itself is irrelevant. You can be a good player whether you are in bronze or diamond. The game matches you based on a hidden MMR which gives a rough determination of your skill level, it does not match based on visible rank at all. The visible rank is mostly meaningless.

They tightened the parameters on the HIDDEN MMR used for matchmaking. That means, REGARDLESS OF VISIBLE RANK, players are now closer together in skill. Since the change, for example, I get much better enemies on average much more often. Players are significantly better all around. This doesn't mean their ranks are all diamond, but they are showing much better gameplay in general.

If you are finding there are a ton of new/bad players in your lobby, it means most likely your MMR is also low. I don't think I need to spell out what that really means.

I agree with you that class balance is currently bad, and recon senses shouldn't exist, and defib nerf didn't address the root problems people were complaining about.

however spawns aren't nearly as RNG as you think, you actually have a lot of control over them. My team constantly manipulates it so players spawn where we want them too so we can force fights in our favor or force them to go to the other objective.

[earnest ermine]

die.

[rugged bobcat]

just turn off crossplay ezy

[ebon elbow]

I play with my pc friends so that wouldn’t work

[clear juniper]

Nerf turrent health more

[serene schooner]

Add text chat

[bold saffron]

Current issues I've ran into as a Console/Controller player

Being unable to swap to primary weapon near doors or ziplines because of button overide. (Leads to a lot of deaths where players will try to swap to a weapon and accidentally zipline down or up and not pull out their gun)

A bug on controller that causes guns to be stuck in an endless reload loop that disables your primary fire button until it fixes itself

[void kite]

Buff light pls. I am hitting ppl across a football field with the stun gun and it isnt enough. I need the stun gun to be global so I can compete with recon mains.

[spiral merlin]

mnk console and input based matchmaking

[feral bloom]

@dense gulch hey just wanted to inform you about a really weird bug I’ve tried everything can’t fix it please please help me out

Side note every “casual” match ends with bit teammates with high level players on the other team not really a great way to help players IMO

[smoky storm]

That's because call of duty has a very low TTK, not a high one?

Low TTK = fast to kill, high TTK = slower to kill

[placid valley]

CoD is a reasonable game. In this trash game you just die randomly. TTK doesn't really matter

[meager ridge]

Currently in a game right now where the other team is signifigantly better than us. Instead of ending the game and cashing out in Tourney, they are just hanging out and killing us every time we spawn and not ending the game. Both my teamates left and it's just me. There's got to be a surrender option. Also kind of a sus game because we spawn and they immediatly kill us from across the map and know exactly where we are even tho they have heal gun and turret. Also would be nice to have a report button for sus behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct.

[ebon elbow]

Mw3 is a terrible game, I finished the camo grind and deleted it, compared to cod the developers of this game actually listen to there playerbase, the ttk will probably be resolved within time

[tropic swift]

No wonder you're toxic you like COD lmaoo

[velvet moth]

Go play CoD or any other thing, why are you still even here? You already said the dev team is trash, the game is trash, full of monkeys, just leave.

Hey, I've heard palworld is fun, go play that.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[placid valley]

idk, maybe because one of monkeys keeps tagging me? have fun with your dying game. chaos out

[shy yew]

Fxi your goddamn matchmaking, i'm gold 4 and i got matched up against top 50 for 4 MATCHES IN A ROW!!!!

[lofty osprey]

pls get rid of outlines on enemies, also make barricade place on walls and ceilings

[shrewd fox]

pls fix the dagger

[gusty wagon]

players should not be penalised for leaving tournaments if one or more teammates already left.

[tropic swift]

Please shut up

[soft quarry]

this game needs more content. more maps, more and BETTER in-game events, more uses for VRS, more gamemodes like a 1v1 quickcash w 5-6 players on each team

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[paper stream]

Buy PC

[earnest ermine]

Nice bait

[amber compass]

hope u guys doing some big changes next season or this will just die off

[acoustic storm]

I'd go as far as only one C4 being able to be placed at a time (with one charge and a slightly shorter cooldown tho).

Will removing the minimum damage on explosions get rid of the problem? No. Skilled players will still be able to pull of 1hks with a nuke. But 1hks will be happening way less often.

E.g the red canister 1hks lights on a direct hit with 150 damage. if it explodes one meter besides the light the damage is below 25. (approximate values tested in the practice range).

The red canister explodes on contact with an enemy. That is as long as there is no C4 attached to it. If there is C4 attached to it, hitting an enemy wont cause the canister to explode. Instead it will deal contact damage (50) and bounce of the enemy (On rare occasions 2 in 50 the canisters explodes on contact with an enemy, even with C4).

Feel free to call it a skill issue. But I was unable to get more than 149 total damage when exploding a canister with C4 attached to it the moment it hit an enemy (contact damage into C4 explosion).

When exploding a canister on the ground, with C4 attached to it, right next to an enemy the canister won't explode, only the C4 does so. Dealing a total of approximately 150 damage.

This obviously changes when attaching two pieces of C4 to a canister. This goes straight into the braindead territory. No questions asked. No direct hits needed, only a distance of less than 5 meters, which is the explosion radius of C4.

The real problem imo is the flaming barrel. If it explodes within 1.5 meters of a medium it will deal approximately 230 total damage plus a minimum of 20 burn damage due to the flames. thus being able to 1hk a medium. Direct hits with the barrel deal an additional 50 damage. Imo the explosion damage needs to be reduced.

Gas canisters currently are broken and won't even start to leak when the attached C4 (one charge) is exploded. Although they will explode after 15 seconds.

Now, if it was possible to only have one active C4 at a time, nukes would be way way harder to pull of.
In addition, removing the minimum damage of explosions would lead to only near direct hits being able to 1hk a light and direct hits bursting, but not one shotting mediums. Everything else would be way less damage.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here. All was tested by me in the practice range and thus the actual numbers may differ.

It may be tempting to say, that buffs/nerfs will have no effect or will have a huge effect. And in some cases that may be true. But at the end of the day only live data will show whether something was enough or not.

Edit:
Red canisters should have less health, yes.

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console for free BBBs

[shell lotus]

Mnk support on console!!!!!

[lavish shard]

High ttk ❤❤

[fading yoke]

remove the outlines

[manic aspen]

1 shot abilities like nukes dont belong in high ttk games like this one, defibs also needs more nerfs

[lofty osprey]

stop moving goo from phasing into you stopping you from moving and shooting without breakin it (not goo gun trapping)

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Better optimization.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.
• Defibrillator should go on cooldown for other teammates while used OR replaced with healing beam to be a more effective lifeline instead of quick revive.
• Heavy overlapping dome shields can create impossible pockets for people to camp in.
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.

[timid pumice]

They should make the game better

[hollow scaffold]

Unbelievable nukes still exist in this game

[spark fractal]

The game needs better optimization. The dx11 is unplayable (I know dx12 is the main focus but still dx11 shouldn't be so buggy)

[sour bane]

I get that it's MMR based. I get plenty of games where I'm with Plat and Diamonds too.

What's not good is the delta of skill level even if it's MMR based. The bronze and unranked players literally drop 1-2 kills all game

I'm not sure why you're defending the matchmaking when this isn't an exclusive issue to one or two people, it's a very common thing happening to everyone

For all its worth, I'm done with ranked and this game until it gets better in a few months. Looking at the player numbers, it seems the majority think so too, except for the minority like you coping that ranked MM is in a good state.

Also, the flaw in your argument is that you yourself state you play in a stack. You don't solo Q. So why are you so confident on something you don't even experience yourself?

[slate current]

Please Fix the Red Canister Ride, there is some wierd networking desync that makes me fall the the ground whenever the canister goes too fast.

RPG & Graplin hook should have less Cooldown ( ~ 0.75 )

[fluid pagoda]

Remove Sniper and give light a 3 round burst weapon . Only thing sniper promotes is disorganization in the team .

[ancient hare]

Nuke is still an issue. There are plenty of red barrels throughout the map. If we can't figure this out then were gonna have to do something like make c4 clip through barrels. Would be funny to see people start using trash cans and shit anyway.

[upper citrus]

the sniper is probably the most team based weapon light has lol. it’s strong with a coordinated team on maps like seoul and skyway

[solid narwhal]

Weapon idea for light: flail/mace, but hella long and very punishing if you miss with it

[tropic swift]

I see a lot of people saying this but I disagree. With how chaotic your screen can be with smokes, fires, and dusts from destruction. If it was removed it will just encourage people to use recon or scanning granades more, which is going to be more annoying than an outline.

[sinful gazelle]

So like a whip?

[smoky storm]

I do both. But you keep bringing up rank which simply means you aren't actually understanding the MMR system at all.

[vivid gulch]

add mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[queen cloud]

yes please. Soo these console kids finally realize mnk sucks on console because of the insane input lag. And how carried by aimassist they are.

MnK on console won't allow u to compete with pc I can guarantee you. Consoles have around 100ms input lag because of 60fps + vsync, aiming with a mouse feels awful. Controller with aimassist is much better because it snaps to target for u and when target switches direction rotational aimassist reacts at 0ms and corrects for u.

[unique berry]

Some things after about 30 hrs of play: Heal Beam/Guns can glitch and not be able to shoot for a round/game. Heavy class already has the most health, it shouldn't do the most damage (c4, rpg). Need a diff. gamemode that will feel less one sided. Another option for the heavy is to bring his health down, its just too strong as is. idk maybe im crazy lmk

[north marsh]

say it louder

[solid narwhal]

Bro it wasn't even that bad before they removed kbm support on console. Also just turn off/unplug the mouse and then turn it back on/plug it back in, that's how I fixed it when I was able to play on kbm, AA is kinda ass now, I feel like if they buff it a little or at least add IBMM to the game it would be a lot more fair for both sides(controller and kbm players)

[oak kernel]

Bro, this shit's more than the battlepass for an outfit. Like come on. I want to buy this stuff, but it's WAY too expensive to justify it to myself man. Make the prices a bit more reasonable. For $20 (you have to buy the $20 currency bundle, so it's $20) we should be getting two outfits at least. It sucks because it legit slaps as an outfit

[cyan sky]

play any other game and realize this price point is accurate. dont cry cuz its $20

[sharp kraken]

remove defib and replace with a medium passive that allows mediums to revive in 1 sec as opposed to 1.5 seconds. Everyone serious is forced to use defib which makes it very restricting to those who want to use something else without being a handicap to the team

[edgy urchin]

real if u broke just say so

[modern sparrow]

I haven't seen this much noobtubing since og MW2

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Better optimization.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.
• Defibrillator should go on cooldown for other teammates while used OR replaced with healing beam to be a more effective lifeline instead of quick revive.
• Defibrillator should also be a utility you have to buy not already have once you start the game.
• Heavy overlapping dome shields can create impossible pockets for people to camp in.
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.

[mystic briar]

chnage m60s name to m70 🤓

[lavish phoenix]

(Reposted from #heavy-build-main )
I think self-damage ramp up should be removed now that RPGs no longer instakill lights and C4 is less powerful. The system is weird and unintuitive, and it's infuriating when you get accidentally teamkilled because a teammate walked in front of you at the wrong moment. Originally it was implemented to discourage heavies from using the RPG at melee ranges, but now that its damage has been reduced so much it feels superfluous and punitive.

Looking at it from another perspective, why should enemies be rewarded for getting close to a heavy? Is one of the heavy's main roles not point defense? Making one of the heavy's most powerful tools unusable at ranges where he should logically dominate doesn't make sense.

[potent glacier]

Settings Feedback:

1. Different Crosshair Customizations. Ex: Small & Static.

2. Team Voice Volume Configuration (For Each Specific Player)

Medium Feedback:

3. Recon Nerf: Divide Recon Time by the amount of players on the team. This will prevent 3 M's on the team with 3 Recons.

Ex: The 3 Medium Recon Team = Recon Time Divided by 3 for each.

3.1 Recon is unbalanced when used by multiple players at the same time. It's impossible to run when being chased.
3.2 Lookin at the One Player Recon Perspective. Recon is already balanced, because of weather effects.

4. Defibrillator Nerf: Divide Invunerability by the amount of players using Defib.

Ex: 1 Defib on team = 0.75s
2 Defib's on team = 0.50s
3 Defib's on team = 0.25s

4.1 Defib has the same issue as Recon, it is balanced but, when used by multiple team players it turns into an exploit.

4.2 If the balance above is not enough: Defibrillator Animation From Xs to 2Xs (multiply the animation time to revive)

P.S. The Idea is bring balance to the game. And this change will impact the "3 Player Exploit" such as 3 M's and will not affect the single Medium player.
By the way, the same will probably be necessary for 3 Heavies with Nukes and C4's.

Good luck dev's!

[smoky storm]

Please temporarily disable fog/stormy/sunny day and rework them. It's a first person shooter, it's nice to be able to see the people you are shooting at. Currently, these map modes make me want to stop playing more than anything else in the game - my accuracy is 1/2 on these variants compared to normal game modes due to the extremely poor visibility. The vast majority of my damage comes from shooting below healthbars, instead of at targets, because of poor visibility.

Make fog only block vision long range, but be clear in close range so target visibility is high, but view distance is low(think old school N64 games like goldeneye, where everything past 50m was fogged out). Stormy(with fog) is also really difficult to see in. Fog in it's current form makes targets too hard to visually acquire; it's just too much screen clutter on top of a game that already has a lot of visual clutter.

Temporarily disable sunny day, until you are able to figure out what interacts so poorly with particles and causes them to be ridiculously bright and make everything impossible to see. Sunny day often seems like it's foggy, and when dust/debris/smoke/etc are present, they become extremely bright, making it extremely difficult to visually see targets. Just like fog, it makes the already bad visual clutter even worse. Looking from inside a building outwards is also horrible; in some cases this is unavoidable and you can't see someone who is a few feet in front of you through a doorway.

Similar to how sandstorm was (I assume temporarily) removed, please take a look at these poor visibility weather variants.

[subtle niche]

I like the idea of balancing based on how many people are using it. It should apply to a lot of other abilities too. Looking at you, mesh/dome shield.

[sonic bay]

REGION LOCK CHINA PLS

[soft gorge]

Why would I? My PS5 runs the game great, a simple update would solve this problem and I already play other games with MKB (native support, btw), so, I'm not buying a PC 😅>

[serene nova]

[modern wedge]

Text chat and other communication methods. half of people dont use mic, and teamwork is instantly gone. at least add a voiceline for sorry/good job please

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on. we must be heard‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[glacial salmon]

Sounds like what a low elo would say

[hoary trail]

play with the input device made for your console

[smoky gust]

i actually like the way it is now
sometimes in game i need to swap items during a match and would probably forget to change it back
its the opposite of your problem

maybe it should be toggle-able in the settings?

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:

• This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
• Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 seconds OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment

[lavish phoenix]

In my opinion, The Dead Go Boom would be better if the explosion damage was based on a percentage of the maximum health of the player killed, say 50%. As it is, lights can suicide bomb and wipe an entire team trying to cap a point simply by standing next to them and getting shot. If they only did 75 damage, then it wouldn't be so impossible.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[edgy urchin]

DEBUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the even less than what it is now.
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can win, the other classes dont really have ways to block enemies, speed them up)
• Decrease damage from 84 to 50 (just because we dislike riot shield users)
• Dont even think of adding a charge like attack, it would be to over powered if u even had the ability to press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam (just block the bullets u have a shield lol)

DEBUFF MELEE TRACKING:

• Melee weapons are OP especally if u have a item that blocks all bullets with inf heath so just dont buff them ez

BUFF THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, make this better and make the dagger do more damage.
• Decrease the backstab hitboxes to match the damage buff because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you cant hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, dont revert it like it was in the Open Beta

BUFF THE DEAD GO BOOM:

• This event is extremly fair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill to improve this make the hitboxes bigger
• Either remove the time before the explosion OR make it so the explosions do damage players but only the environment

[earnest ermine]

It's a good thing you guys aren't designing THE FINALS or it would fucking suck (talking about your proposed recon/defib nerf)

All this crap about tweaking stats based on the amount of people on a team using recon when all it takes is one recon with good communication to terrorize the lobby. This fixes nothing and actively discourages creativity in terms of how people wanna run their team. Your idea of a balancing recon is the equivalent of setting up a surveillance camera pointed at your tv so you can watch Netflix on your phone when you can just download the fucking app without installing any cameras

Also incorrect use of the term "exploit". Which when someone/people take advantage of a bug/glitch to gain the upper hand. Running three defibs is not an exploit

Holy shit I pray you never become a game designer because your gonna weigh down every project you work on with these Whoopi Goldberg ass solutions to game balance

[torpid plinth]

here be a short essay on what i think about light

[muted harbor]

How long does two finals matches take

[thorny latch]

or just dnt use light

problem fixed

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[soft gorge]

Players on pc using controller reading this 🤡

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Better optimization.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.
• Defibrillator should go on cooldown for other teammates while used OR replaced with healing beam to be a more effective lifeline instead of quick revive.
• Defibrillator should also be a utility you have to buy not already have once you start the game.
• Heavy overlapping dome shields can create impossible pockets for people to camp in.
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.

[tropic swift]

I don't want the glitch with the crane and barricades because it's funny and does nothing but do wacky stuff

[violet scaffold]

fix literally everything about the game, atp the difference between a bronze and a diamond player is practically knowledge of exploits like spawn trapping with nades or manipulation, every game is literally the exact same book by book and uninteresting and dead. there will be absolutely no esports scene until the game is properly random.

seoul is lost beyond repair, i genuinely think the only way this map can be fixed is by a complete overhaul of the map topography & design, completely wipe the map.

[orchid island]

a little tip for breaking zips, you can quick melee twice and break them, but at range it can be pretty annoying, and another cool thing is that the CL40 does one shot zips, but thats pretty niche

[ebon peak]

Please add MnK support on consoles,,please, 🥺

[vivid gulch]

im good with playing on a shitty controller thx

[cyan sky]

"every game is literally the exact same book by book", game is in open beta and stil is being developed

[charred peak]

you can put 2 vaults in 1 cashout

[fallen sundial]

Settings Idea:
•Auto-Sprint
•Hold [Button] to Walk (If Auto-Sprint Is On)

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console, just put in pc lobbies

[rose surge]

You want to nerf lights more? That's a terrible idea imo

[past fox]

No more nerfs or buffs just stfu and play the game

[dusk forge]

@Game is too difficult!
I play a lot of ranked solo-queue. And i play a lot with random people on discord or ingame-voice-chat.

The system with the $-Cashout is too difficult!

If it was only the cashouts ok. But you loose ponts with every teamwipe. And you get little money for kills.

The average player does not have enough math skills to get the whole system.

EVERY SECOND MATCH IN RANKED, I SEE TEAMS - SECOND OR FIRST ON SCOREBOARD - STARTING A CASHOUT, ONLY SECONDS BEFORE THE TIMES HITS 0:00!

Which makes no sense, because some seconds later they would be qualified for next round when the match ends.
Every second time this fails, another team steals the cashout and the team which started the cashout looses and is knocked out.

This makes no sense!

Why would soooo many players knock themself out? Answer: MAth education for the average gamer might be too little for the stress you suffer while playing an fps-shooter.

People don`t shoot themselves out the tournament with purpose. MAybe some trolls ok.

BUT I HAVE SEEN HUNDREDS OF PLAYERS BEING KNOCKED OUT IN TOURNAMENTS BECAUSED THEY CASHED IN SECONDS BEFORE GAME ENDS AND FAIL TO DEFEND THEIR CASHOUT OBVIOUSLY (all other teams coming for them at that time)

• Actual numbers where lowered by me to avoid exaggeration.

[odd girder]

Blud said he want no updates💀

[indigo osprey]

he didnt

[teal marsh]

Please make holding crouch (or using some button) ensures you fall into smaller holes instead of going over them. Time and time again when I need to enter a broken ceiling window or elevator hole pressing forward and stopping does not make me fall in

[fleet stratus]

Actual skill issue

[obsidian solar]

Ladies and gentlemen, a braindead moron 👆

[earnest ermine]

I want to ram into your house with a bulldozer

Which is obviously different from my saying I want to destroy your house because I never said that

[next raptor]

I think windows on roof should have better hitboxes? Sometimes i try to break them and nothing happens. Maybe it's a skill issue i dont know.

[warm jasper]

am i the only one who has so much input lag?

[blissful bridge]

The biggest balancing complaints are recon and nukes, followed up by heal / defib trains.

We'll see how the rework on recon goes this week.
It should shake up the meta in ranked allowing for more variety in the matches.

I have an idea for the nuke.
Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

This will help further nerf the tactic without nerfing any classes or abilities.

We need to learn how to balance in a way that doesn't constantly go straight after the equipment or classes.

The next item that will be complained about will be heal / defib trains.
I also think cloak will be complained about in ranked if lights start becoming more viable to that mode.

The cloak will be easier to hear when the audio in the game gets polished.
The footsteps are wonky already, when it's fixed that will help with audio location.
This will help pinpoint cloaks easier without nerfing the ability.

The heal / defib trains can be countered with glitch grenade, and we need lights to be more viable in ranked.
So instead of nerfing heals/defib we should buff the AOE of glitch grenades and maybe make them instant on contact with shield/players/equipment.
This will help buff the light class which is needed making them viable in ranked by being a counter for heal/defib trains / turrets / shields, etc...

Let's balance the game while keeping the equipment fun and powerful.
This is a competitive game that has an enjoyable casual spirit.

[royal flume]

Please add performance mode and options to turn down lighting effects to console. Shouldn’t be getting frame drops on a game that’s only running 60fps

[fallen sundial]

Auto-Sprint

[vast quail]

I want to be able to see. Particularly an issue on Vegas

[paper stream]

Embark is clearly some small indie game company not knowing how to figure out matchmaking...

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console, just put us pc lobbies, I want to be able to compete with my pc friends

[hoary trail]

theyre losers too

[dull verge]

What is with this games voice chat system? It's so fuckin' delayed and I can't even use my mic half the time despite all my settings being correct and never changing them. One day the game just decided to stop reading my microphone and now I have to fuck with my settings every single match (Because once I finish a lobby my mic goes back to not working again). Please for the love of god fix this wonky ass VOIP system

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please and thank you. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[sudden tangle]

How hard is it to make gold players not queue with top 50 players??? Also just delete light at this point.

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Better optimization.
• Voicechat icon less delayed and more clear when used.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.
• Defibrillator should go on cooldown for other teammates while used OR replaced with healing beam to be a more effective lifeline instead of quick revive.
• Defibrillator should also be a utility you have to buy not already have once you start the game.
• Heavy overlapping dome shields can create impossible pockets for people to camp in.
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.

[lilac pelican]

Can we STOP having Bronze players in Gold Lobbies, holy fuck!

[indigo osprey]

its cause your hidden rank says your bronze get good cudi

[soft gorge]

I think YOU are the loser in this story...

[median ibex]

Triple healing beam needs to be nerf

[cyan sky]

stop malding about that terrible opinion

[edgy urchin]

its not spamming its only every 15 minutes, get ur facts straight bud

[nocturne flare]

I don't actually disagree with most of what you said, but: https://pictr.com/images/2023/06/22/EuGEgu.jpg

[fallen sundial]

More events like:
• Earthquake
• Acid Rain (Find cover)
• Flood (Water rises)
• Tornado
• Storm (thunders and heavy rain that block your vision)

• System error (Everyone hud is hidden and cant use spec and gadgets or makes the round longer)

[livid oasis]

How do we feel about the defib nerf? Like genuine feelings about it.

[quick coyote]

don't remove las vegas and keep the solos forever pls

[next raptor]

Performance mode for console would be great

[wind frost]

Visual clarity

Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point, examples here: #medium-build-main message #medium-build-main message

I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.

HUD
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice.

[mild moth]

I'm sure there is a significant difference between an opponent's orientation and the perceived orientation on a player's screen.
During close-quarters combat, it's frustrating to get shot when behind someone. This happens to me every game.
I know this is also an issue for dagger players trying to backstab.

[oak kernel]

Add an indicator on the screen for dagger players so they know they're going to backstab. I don't think that'd be an issue, just something on like the crosshair or something

[proud ocean]

This game is now a sweat fest filled with cheater. Impossible to even win a fight….

[quartz oak]

I dislike being matched with players that are a lower rank than myself and my tm8

[stoic vine]

Fix the cheaters. Please don't let the game die. Just add a functional anti-cheat. Also block Controller Remapping for M&K Players your update did not work. No one should need AA on M&K.

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console, just put us pc lobbies, I want to be able to compete with my pc friends

[fallen sundial]

'Hud transparency (ping and cashout hud)'

Sometimes its hard to see when the hud is in the way and the enemy is right in front of it, so making a setting where we can change the % of the opacity, it would be great

[lament talon]

It's the same with apex isn't it. I don't know what the fix would be for that but ranked is always crazy hard soloq in most games

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[dusk forge]

text obv too complicated for you. I already kept sentences short too avoid this, but if this is your answer then actual skill issue sadly yes...or what`s the deeper meaning of this very short nonsense? 🤦 I´m not talking bout myself if this was the thing you struggled understanding...but my maths skills are far above average level and i can empathize with other people and have made this experience in discord when i ask people lis

[quick coyote]

i dont understand what youre truly complaining about here. yes, people make very stupid plays sometimes—other teams also shoot to eliminate the best team in the lobby. just get a dedicated 3 stack

[wind frost]

you're actually, unironically correct, people really don't understand the competitive game mode at all.

[proud ocean]

Given the reduction of the playerbase they should make the matchmaking more accessible.

[violet elbow]

"ranked gamemode is hard"

more news at 5

[pliant lion]

Ranked is borderline impossible at the moment.. Seems to get worse with every "matchmaking adjustment" they do. If it's SBMM there's no reason for me to lose 25 matches in a row

[ivory berry]

Add passive abilities for each body

[dusk forge]

not complaining about anything 🤦 To make it short (again): ppl too dumb 2 do the math ingame. me afraid of game getting itself into problems cuz of diz. cuz ppl stop playing cuz loosing all the time cuz see start of sentence...me like finals mucho, no want to go dead cuz 2 diffcult for average amigo? clearer?

[lament talon]

Every single competitive shooter has dumb teammates. Stop complaining and carry them or stack like in apex/ Overwatch/Warzone/Valorant etc.

You guys arent even top rank stop complaining

[fallen sundial]

New Gamemode

Hot Cashout: The team who holds long enough the cash wins.

The cash spawns at a random location and the point starts whoever grabs it.

You lose the 30% of the cash if your team gets wiped.

When the timer ends whoever had the most points qualifies for the next round... any further idea let me know in dm

[feral bloom]

Found another cheater and this bug is still there

[smoky storm]

M8 it's not a bug, it's a feature that you turned on. Go turn it off in options.

[median ibex]

revolver is op

[real galleon]

please make light class 175 hp

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console, just put us pc lobbies, I want to be able to compete with my pc friends

[cunning kernel]

Suggestions

• Killfeed should display every kill throughout the server. Very hard to always hear announcers.
• Seoul: Cashout very hard to play against when running on the wide open bridge. Impossible to gain distance while people are spraying from building.
• Anything placeable on throwables / C4 barrels are impossible to predict / dodge and causes various glitches.
• Light class very hard to fit in with Heavy & Medium. H&M have many weapons & utilities to help the team compared to light.
• Background audio playback should be an option so you hear whilst you're tabbed out.
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization.
• Ziplines hard to destroy using weapons
• Better optimization.
• Voicechat icon less delayed and more clear when used.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.
• Yellow & gray boxes / vents occasionally appear without any collision, (can cause various bugs).

Possible Balance Changes

• Cloaking device still very hard to counter especially when they're 100% invisible after the 2.5 seconds.
• Cloaking device should be a cooldown based ability not toggle to prevent running in and out of fights.
• If mines have a duration before they explode they shouldn't immediately explode to flamethrower while thrown.
• Fcar is unnecessarily good at any range due to such little recoil and bloom.
• Light dashing cooldown very quick and hard to counter if they're running circles around you.
• Defibrillator should only do the animation when in range for resurrection to prevent instant revival.
• Defibrillator should go on cooldown for other teammates while used OR replaced with healing beam to be a more effective lifeline instead of quick revive.
• Defibrillator should also be a utility you have to buy not already have once you start the game.
• Heavy overlapping dome shields can create impossible pockets for people to camp in.
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.

[oak kernel]

Can goo be made more user friendly in general? It's quite annoying to throw a go downwards and have it deploy TOWARDS me because it hit the side of an object. Maybe if I right click it could ALWAYS form horizontally rather than towards me? It'd be best if there was some form of hard control for it, like a toggle or something, but I'd settle for that at least so I can stop accidentially deploying it the wrong way in chaotic situations. I never know if it'll work or if I'll get screwed

[cunning stag]

Not MnK on console yet? We don't care about playing against other MnK players, add input based matchmaking and problem solved or just don't let us turn off crossplay if MnK is detected on a console.

I mean, if you don't care about losing the MnK players from consoles, you can just ignore us, I guess.

[quick chasm]

a cooldown for heavy shield if you shut it off / switch out of it
or runs out of health

[median hollow]

the defib fix is amazing, thats my positive feedback
You can now actually kill people who get defibbed
Those who are prepared to be revived still have that 0.75 seconds to react and use a shield/run away with their teammate's help, etc.

[blissful bridge]

FIXED IT

Suggestions

• Optional Killfeed to display every kill in match (hard to hear announcers.)
• Light class needs more team play gadgets.
• Background audio playback should be an option
• Party / friends list very cluttered and confusing. Should be combined.
• More Crosshair customization. (I WANT THIS SO BAD)
• Voicechat icon less delayed and more clear when used.

Current Known Bugs / Glitches

• Barricades placed on cranes will cause various bugs once the crane is destroyed.
• Vaults sometimes gets randomly stuck under the ground.
• Higher settings can sniper glares to disappear or become obsolete when in sunlight.
• Various crashing still evident with raytracing and various high settings on.
• When players leave, "disconnected" is very delayed.
• Red air canisters can be used to fling player upwards sometimes resulting in crashes.
• Yellow & gray boxes / vents occasionally appear without any collision, (can cause various bugs).

Possible Balance Changes
• (Event: Alien Invasion) compared to 'Meteor Shower' or 'Dead Go Boom' 'Alien Invasion' doesn't do anything to impact any gameplay.
• (Event: Meteor Shower) Occasionally doesn't fall based on players and just attacks a specific site across the map.

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console, just put us pc lobbies, I want to be able to compete with my pc friends

[fallen sundial]

new event

"Error System Player Scale Body"
Every contestant is smaller than a light height

[dusk forge]

stop participating if you are not capable of understanding. You just embarrass yourself...lol

[daring fossil]

1/15 games are still fun, gotta nerf more stuff. #nerfthefun

[sonic spoke]

It is not a bug. Go into game settings and select to show all contestants names.

[tropic swift]

Glad you guys are reworking recon, it's what most of us need now. Though it wouldn't be a way to prevent MMM meta to slow down a bit. The thing about medium class is that it's too perfect to the point where you don't need a different class. Every class should have a weakness yet medium doesn't have one at all.

Lights have low health and does not have a teamplay gadget.
Heavies doesn't have traversal gadgets and can easily be an easy target.
Both very dependent on other classes, outside from medium!

There needs to be some kind of weakness that makes medium rely on heavies or lights otherwise mediums are not going to change. I don't want mediums to be nerfed overall because that'll mess up with the balance, just something that makes MMM a weakness.

But overall a great game and I've been loving the recent balance changes and transparency to the community.

[twilit cradle]

Ranked makes no sense. I solo q in bronze and my team mates are almost always like gold or something so I assume the other players in the server are too???

[arctic acorn]

Here's an idea. Adding a mid-long range burst fire weapon. Not sure what class that'd be for, but taking something like the XM8 experimental assault rifle and updating the model to reflect the setting of the game would be awesome. (The XM8 is the M8A1 from CoD black ops 2 basically.) The weapon variety is pretty okay, I just don't understand the lack of a burst fire weapon. As it stands, the closest you'll get to a "burst fire" weapon is just tap firing the FCAR lol.

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[chrome merlin]

I have been asking for this for a long time now, please finaly make it possible to disable aim assist on mnk on meele attacks. playing dagger currently is a fight against the aim assist. furthermore dagger needs some sort of buff, the current mechanic of the dagger is great and doesn t need to be changed but it is unplayable into anyone who has minimal experience in fpses. Sugestions: make dagger players imune to any type of recon or mines, give dagger players a small speedboost and and please increase light health by 25. dagger does not have to be meta or viable it just needs to be playable

[dusty juniper]

Custom games plz

[oak kernel]

I think right click tossing a nade has a bit TOO little range on it. Often times I'll goo myself when I mean to goo directly in front of me. I'll try to lob it over something but it juuuuuust isn't far enough. This combined with how janky goo is to deploy in general makes it pretty frustrating. It'd be fantastic if the right click lob just had a tiny bit more distance from you, and maybe a slight bit more distance upwards to prevent accidental nade fuckups. This would especially help out with trying to quickly deploy goo right in front of you

Also let us toggle which way our goo nades will deploy please 🙏

[proud ocean]

With less players playing the game, matchmaking should be revised so the matches aren’t all sweaty and filled with pros against casual players.

[jade void]

Team Deatchmatch please! 5vs5/3vs3 or something, the mode sucks at this time a lot

[manic prairie]

make better tutorial, feel like some of players need learn to play 😑

[lament talon]

No you are saying ranked is too hard because your teammates suck. That's normal

[near silo]

All the melee weapons need a buff, mostly the Sledge Hammer and as you said Knife. Making the player immune to mines would be a no-go though, though I could see a small passive movespeed buff for having any melee equipped and/or a bit of health (15-25) more if a class has melee equipped.

For the Knife making the alt-attack have less delay after an attack would be nice. An indicator that the knife will do a backstab guaranteed(akin to the spy's knife from tf2) would make it much better and less frustrating.

The Sledge hammer needs a faster swing speed and/or primary attack damage, along with a bit less delay with the alt attack(only a little). It shouldn't have such a gap in dps compared to the automatic guns when its already at such a disadvantage.

Being honest, a meta of using melee weapons would be more healthy for this game than the FCAR spam it is.\

[zealous tusk]

2 suggestions:

1. Add back MnK on console, to make the playing field more even.

2. Probably not many people care, but please add gyro aiming for controller. That could also solve the problem with the skill gap between console and pc.

[fallen sundial]

I feel that the dagger and the throwing knives left trigger on controller / right click on mnk should be a hold action like the sword

[tiny grail]

1 suggestion, really only think this game needs atm. Custom games. Good for practice, good for publicity (twitch rivals/esports), good for game

[pine needle]

Oh my god yes

The alien invasion event is just cringe. It provides no gameplay impact.

The meteors neither. They hit random or rarely aim at actual players. Can't even tell.

Maybe Mega Damage also could use a rework. The destruction to the arenas, as promised, doesn't seem so evident, and I can barely see actual gun damage getting buffed. I could see rework potencial in here. Maybe limit it to arena damage only, but go haywire. Twice the explosion range, grenades now also destroy from one blow, maybe even GL's!

[rain axle]

I love the game I have over 100hrs on it and I’m sitting here wondering why don’t mediums have smoke grenades as an attachment👀I mean come on gas doesn’t take care of fire. You mean to tell me as a medium which is technically the most balanced class I can’t have a smoke grenade attachment to deal with fire but as a light build can have this very interaction.If you play the medium build you can understand that having a smoke grenade and a pyro grenade and or a gas mine at the same time 🤷🏾‍♂️I mean that’s just my whole take on the game.i mean can you imagine a medium coming out of the smoke blazing the FCAR🤯or smoking themselves out to stay back and heal their teammates‼️

[keen lily]

low gravity and the dead go boom are the worst

[wind frost]

Visual clarity

Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.

I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.

HUD
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice.

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[spare cape]

We need haptic trigger support for ps5❗️

[lavish shard]

A note about the future: based on your feedback and our own telemetry evaluation, we recognize that the Recon Senses ability for the Medium build needs an overhaul and we’re working on that right now. You can look forward to that change and more in next week’s update!

[river wadi]

Can we get a London or Sweden related maps

[cyan totem]

Maybe change tanks hp to 325 or add a small amount of extra bullets to light class guns

[ember acorn]

Since skbm i cant find games sometimes xD

[fast rock]

"Dear admins", please pay attention to game optimization. Because how convenient for you, you turned off the function to add screenshots. And I have something to show you ... and I'm more than sure you know about it! my CPU usage is more than 100% and GPU utilization is 20%, this is not normal!!!!!!!!!!!! Do whatever you want with your shit!

[hoary trail]

the fact you said tanks instead of heavy shows you should not be giving suggestions, also the light gun idea doesn't make sense

[jolly plover]

Yea right what a bozo he called something a smiler name so um educated

[glad ore]

I am once again suggesting that there should be an option to disable automatic weapon switching when an equipped gadget runs out of ammo or charges. Give me the option to manually switch please. Also an option to disable the toggle feature of ability-based weapons like the heal gun and goo gun.
Embark, pls. :(

[tribal bramble]

Idk which changes have ruined the game for me lately but I am not having as much fun anymore. All of this balancing and people hopping on the meta every time any change is done is making the game feel the same over and over again. Especially when you get the same map over and over again too. This game used to be so much fun because every round was different but now it's really stale. All of these nerfs and buffs just make all weapons feel bad at this point. I don't think anything is overpowered right now but rather everything seems like it's slightly underpowered. I don't have enough bullets or damage as a medium, the light just walks in and dies over and over again and the heavy needs 10 business days to reach the cashout and I also feel like the spawn also have gotten worse. Why does it feel like we always respawn on the opposite time of the map when a cashout is almost over?

Overall I am kind of sad because of the games current state. This game used to be the only one that was still fun because it was something new and every round was different but now it just feels stale and boring 😦

[balmy estuary]

when a team is not full because matchmaking didnt work i shouldnt lose ranked points

[rapid ember]

Magic stuff, in gold and getting matched against 2 teams of top 500 ranked Diamond players. Big oof 😄

[daring fossil]

I'm still playing because I like this game and It used to be really fun, but literally 9/10 matches are just a sweaty unfun slog now. I've played like 6-7 rounds today and I've already blocked like 6 recon users not playing the objective just kill hunting and chasing

[neon oak]

If embark wanted that they wouldnt have made RPG deal 174 instead of 140

[grand helm]

Suggestion:

Anounncers should be able to interrupt what they are currently saying to prevent "queuing" of announcements for certain things as some announcements come in incredibly late for what is currently happening

E.g "XYZ team only have one contestant left" <insert other random announcement here[e.g. vault opening]> "XYZ team have been wiped out"

Instead it should perhaps flow more like "XYZ team only have one contest-- woah and that's XYZ wiped out"

[jolly plover]

Can we get a menu to see our Career level and cosmetics we can get

[thick fiber]

turrets shouldn't stay locked on you if they're on a falling object

[hollow spear]

A togglable accessibility option to change the class letters on the scoreboard into distinguishable symbols of some kind (kinda like battlefield or tf2) would be great for people with dyslexia or similar reading or sight problems.

[daring fossil]

remove low gravity, I used to never mind this modifier but its so bullshit on maps where you are forced to use bouncepads to get to other parts of the map and you're literally stuck in the air for so long you can't fucking do anything and you just get beamed.

[primal vault]

So as everyone knows, the finals is a new and phenomenal first person shooter. Filled with action packed adventures and a sprawling multiplayer scene, this game is everything we gamers asked for. But unfortunately, there’s a lot of lacking discipline which is holding back:

Reasons why this game is dying:

• Loss of player count: This isn’t surprising, the game had over 200K in-game players at release on Dec 7 and countinued to stay that way throughout the month
• More cheaters: This implies the devs and the anti cheat software isn’t doing nothing to combat cheaters
• Meta becoming more obstructive: This means the multiplayer experience is becoming more and more frustrating for new comers
• Devs don’t listen: If you don’t listen to your community, the game will eventually falter, this reinforces points 1,2 and 3.
• Competition: There’s not much competition in this scene, (explosive maps, different character builds), but this game won’t succeed unless the devs listen.

[chrome basin]

As someone who has an Oled monitor please get rid of the static client text on the bottom right corner during gameplay. I dont need burn in thank you very much

[languid charm]

I would love it if you guys added more maps because if I remember correctly there are 4 in total and they all are really really good

[summer venture]

how much do these clown devs hate light like wtf

[daring fossil]

what games dont have static huds? if you don't want burn-in push F12

[hollow spear]

Defib should go on cooldown for a short time for the user after being revived by someone else, to prevent defib chains. (maybe like half the cooldown bar?)
Also, I know medium is super strong right now, but after they get nerfed, more destruction capability/gadgets would be great. I wanna smash stuff & blow through walls too!

[naive flicker]

🪧 Remove AA changes! Console will die!🪧

Possible soutions to replace the aim assist patch:

1. They disable crossplay entirely and have 2 different builds of the game. This would be a nuclear option not recommended.

2. They buff MKB users by giving them bullet magnetism. Buff instead of nerf. That's always better.

3. They can filter inputs on PC. Forcing controller PC players to play with console or have they're own subdivision on PC.

4. Have it so when console players enable crossplay they have this patches current aim assist. When disabled have pre patch aim assist

[plucky torrent]

Your anti cheat is not working properly and only kicks cheaters if it catches them and allows them to rejoin the game.

[cold bolt]

make it a thing where if you reach 3,000 vrs you can transfer it to 75 multibucks

[modern wedge]

ue5 crashes man PLEASE GODDAMN IT MAKE IT STOP

i understand it can be hard to fix these but could you at least add a game reconnect button (if your place hasnt been taken already)

[rose surge]

Using rewasd now removes all aim assist.

[solid narwhal]

kbm on console so a BBB will visit you tonight

[latent jungle]

2 medium 1 heavy needs to be nerfed

[wind frost]

just played monaco fifth time in a row 👍

[sour bane]

With this class balance, dead game in 3 months. Never seen a class like Medium as broken as it is in this game.

Not gonna deal with dev's awful balancing. Already stopped playing

[magic herald]

MSAA or let us disable it.

[shell lotus]

Bro the game been out for almost 2 months and they’ve been trynna fix problems, and they are very active, like give them time, like the game just came out

add kbm support to console!!!

[storm thunder]

@sour bane i stopped playing also, the game is just too one dimensional and full of problems, cheaters, balance issues, SBMM issues (the last update didnt seem to fix it, i still came up against much higher opponents than me).

[fresh shell]

CL-40 needs a de-buff.

[quick chasm]

buildings falling apart for no reason

[grave forge]

heavy needs a hard nerf in my op

[pseudo needle]

I dont get how ppl hate the deevs when they listeen to people more than any game out theree

[potent pasture]

Embark have been great at addressing issues and im sure they'll get there in time with most of the concerns. All i want is the Matchmaking to not be so trash 🙏

[clever surge]

Buffing Cl-40 and nerfing R.357 was the biggest 2head move, one could do balancing The Finals. Its wrong on so many levels, that it is just not worth the time to point all of it. You guys need to back out from fall off nerfs. Period.

[shell notch]

Something else to do with your VRs after you’ve unlocked everything and gotten to cap would be nice imo. Either being able to buy select cosmetics or converting it into multibucks

[hardy bridge]

give light a 50% cashout steal time bonus so he steals cashouts 50% faster or something

[shell lotus]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾

[magic herald]

Voice chat is confusing. It says 'enable' voice chat so is it toggle or it just can't hear your teammates? Also, would press to talk work if I have enabled voice?
Edit: (Just add Text Chat)

[tight oriole]

every time i try to play i get connection errors or infinite loading screens. cant get into a single match.

[lean bluff]

PLS let me remove the scope of the xp-54

[rapid ember]

Absolutely love it when people use buzz words like "Dead Game".

[tepid shoal]

Please help me, I don't know if its a bug/glich or whatever
But recently I've been having connection issues when I'm trying to join a game. From my last match in ranked tournaments I keep disconnecting every time I join a game with my squad and a error code have popped up saying error TFG0000.

I've looked it up what it actually means, basically in a nutshell, I had mors than 4 contestants and it couldn't load them all, so I deleted 3 and kept 3. That sort of worked but eventually it just said the same error code again.

Please Ex developers from dice fix this issue if possible

Please let me know if there's any way to fix this issue

[past fox]

Dont come here then leave crybaby @summer venture Nerf medium - Nerf heavy - Nerf light... NERF EVERYTHING WAH 👶 They nerfed defib there gonna nerf recon when will yall babys be happy

[summer venture]

All people that clown reacted this are crutch medium losers don't fret

@past fox damn well know you'll be crying when medium deservedly gets nerfed to the ground

[quick chasm]

no toggle for the melee aim assist?
its annoying

[solemn patrol]

its been mentioned a lot, but yeah super frustrating

[timid reef]

They can clown you all they want. 1 out of the three classes is entirely unviable lmfao

[rose surge]

I will be happy when the game is balanced. They made this channel for feedback, if you don't like when people give feedback, you're free to leave.

[lost marsh]

Can already see cheaters are gonna kill this game. Im fine with how the systems and stuff is maybe some weapon damage stuff but obvi stuff that explode shouldn’t deal less then stuff going pew ect but above all deal with the game killing prob lol

[sour bane]

Game has lost 85% of the players with more and more people leaving, but all the copers are saying it's okay

[tight oriole]

in having the same problem, either the error message or an infinite loading screen

[sinful fiber]

Honestly its expected tbh. It was fotm in December, now palworld has this position. And it was over Christmas holidays, where ppl tend to have more time to play.

The player numbers (atleast on steam) looked stable the past week 🤷‍♂️

The devs are already working on the balancing issues

[ancient hare]

in tournaments can we remove penalties for leaving a match after our teammates leave? It's a miserable experience playing solo just waiting for a match to end

[tropic swift]

It's with every game, they always decline when it's trending. Especially when the game is a FPS game, a very competitive type of game. If the game improves moving forward I have no doubts with the game being on the top.

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[past fox]

feedback is different than crying 24/7 when they devs do exactly what you want them too

[timber sage]

any way or update in the future to independently change crosshair outline opacity? would prefer to have something like this so i have a crosshair usable in more situations IMO

[quick chasm]

Recon sense should make you see mines and turrets through walls no people

[smoky raptor]

My only complaint make heavy slower and nerf flamethrower heavy goes same speed as medium

[neon oak]

Are you a console player? and a light main?
yes or no react
then whats the deal

[ancient hare]

they literally said they're working on it

[quartz girder]

let us use VRs in other ways after unlocking everything - like gambling them at the casino or turning them into store coins

fix the voice chat for xbox and add text chat

[sour bane]

Ikr... let's give everything to one class. Make them the best DPS, best team mobility, high HP, wall hacks, heal, defib, etc

Why wouldn't this be broken lol

[marsh oriole]

well whole community trying to remove this shit but devs working on it for like 2 months man.

[rich fox]

i remember seeing someone leave a comment in this channel saying that the game would be boring if it was too balanced lol.

im not disagreeing with you, just saying there are some people who oddly like the chaotic gameplay

[shell lotus]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾

[raven folio]

TAKE NUKES OUT OF THE GAME

[icy coral]

This is supposed to be a fun game, but the developers listened too much to the feedback of the community members and reduced the fun by balancing patches, which is why the game has fewer and fewer players

[cyan dome]

here is my feedback guys... How come 3 Gold-4 tired dads matchmaked with GIGZ gang and "Cronus Haver"?!
https://i.imgur.com/h3HvibM.png

[rose surge]

Any game that's too balanced is ultimately boring, but there is a good balance pun unintended between having a game that allows a player's free expression and one that prevents obviously overpowered mechanics. I don't think this game has found that place yet. Here is a video that I thought was really interesting about this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsC8io4w1sY

[upper citrus]

no idea why everyone reacted to this like an asshole. having the option to remove a sight is literally just a win for everyone. the funny part is that it already had its sight removed in cb2 and it felt a lot better to use. heres video of itnot really sure why everyone reacted like assholes to this? no idea people hated options so much. not to mention the fact that the scope was removed in cb2 and the gun felt better to use. heres a vid of it https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1ezuo22UUvdErN

[stray basalt]

I can’t believe the critique here is that the devs listen to the players too much 😭

[dull hemlock]

The players reduced the fun by realizing how broken literal wall hacks are. The devs hurt it by implementing it in the first place. Thankfully they're working on it, though I wish it had been higher on the priority list.

[merry tartan]

Add mnk to console for the love of Jobin 💀💀💀

[inner ridge]

why so many cheaters in this game

[soft gorge]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾

[ancient hare]

what? they only mentioned that they're looking at it like a couple days ago
#game-announcements message

[shy holly]

Nah, i don't got a problem with light, my problem is with constant cheating that happen

[random smelt]

So far the devs have not disappointed with any of the patches that they release imo some changing are required but I’m sure the devs will make it happen.

[tropic swift]

Well you will be losing your shit if you were an Apex fan. It’s rare these days where game devs actually listens to you, so let’s appreciate this.

[upper citrus]

this is a whole video on why that video shouldnt apply to the finals https://youtu.be/JY7Eyhkh2yA?si=KQBNqHdV6wyuen5K

[noble nimbus]

i hope your making more music for every season. It's so good. Especially that techno/edm track with the faster beat and sexy bassline

[cosmic spear]

Someone please tell me they've announced the aim assist being broken below 20 meters has been addressed? Or even mentioned? Cuz this shit is the reason most console players don't like crossplay. The setting has been broken for a HOT minute now

[graceful python]

I believe there should be rewards for eliminating opponents or assisting in their elimination. These rewards can be used for immediate revival, or to access shopping points on the map to purchase items or weapons. For instance, players could receive 100 credits for eliminating an opponent and 50 credits for an assist. Spending 400 credits could enable instant revival, while 200 credits could be used to purchase exclusive items or weapons at the shopping points.

[rose surge]

The video I linked was more nuanced, but the creators of both videos would probably actually agree on most things. Actually watch the video I linked instead of just assuming things from the title. The title was a bit click-baity, but the creator notes times in which nerfs made games better. He was ultimately saying that games should be balanced by allowing different playstyles to keep what makes them unique and fun, rather than making only one playstyle the viable option. Often, this just means that buffing is better than nerfing hence the title. However, this isn't always the case.

[lean quartz]

yo

[opaque cradle]

Your XP for leveling up is wayyyy to slow and not being able to log into the website is crazy

[valid night]

buff lh1 damage by 1 point it will become a good weapon🤔

[woven briar]

wait till you're maxed out and have nothing to do another than ranked.

[static latch]

Auto sprint: it hurts after a while on controller

[toxic shadow]

Dont bother reworking recon just remove it

[night vapor]

Can you add a section where you can save outfits you've put together?

[chrome basin]

The final round honestly just sucks. I wish there was a surrender button so I could avoid playing it. Its just shit.

[halcyon nymph]

PC (STEAM): ISSUES WITH PARTY MEMBERS BEING RANDOMLY KICKED, NO MESSAGE DISPLAYING WHY.

[languid lotus]

its me again..
i really need that stick skin.

also make it easier to fall into holes/windows

[upper citrus]

i’ve seen the video trust. i disagree with it for the most part but i think it works well specifically in fighting games. @rose surge

[lean quartz]

might wanna remove light from the game. the people that play light need something better to do

[brittle obsidian]

remove heavy too while you're at it

[fallen copper]

FCAR is busted and is always gonna be the go-to choice because the holo sight. the Iron sights of the AKM are too weird

[rose surge]

Buffing lights wouldn't ruin the game though. That's what they really need to do tbh. I don't even think mediums are that OP outside of recon. Mediums just need a fast, low TTK nemesis to keep them in check. i.e. lights but better because they suck right now.

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife skin. Thx

[fleet stratus]

buff throwing knives 🙏

[tawny oak]

Do some server maintenance, add server feedback report, servers are terrible with shot registration. Damage is NEVER the same with every player in the lobby, Please work on the servers and try to make them consistent and actually working properly

[rose snow]

[smoky raptor]

What about an actual dinner plate skin for the lewis gun with a glass plate as the mag

[humble tinsel]

nerf flamethrower. it requires such low skill for it to be as strong as it is

[quiet estuary]

ye

[meager moth]

C4s dont apply weight to red cannisters whereas mines do, needs to be fixed. Nukes still present in every game.

[lean quartz]

the rats love me3

[humble tinsel]

after they buffed it it's about 80% of what heavy's are running in ranked...it's cc and spray qualtites make it insanely potent for how big of a health pool heavys have. with it being ran that often it also makes anything gas useless and not worth running as well

[woeful perch]

Can we add grenade trails when holding a nade with Thermals on? I am not sure why it isn't visible with thermals

[odd harbor]

fix ranked and add text channel

[wooden shale]

How are the Detect Opponents challenges still not fixed to count tracking darts or the motion sensors for detection?

[noble nimbus]

we need a weapon stat page in game, that shows how many kills you have with every gun and your k/d with it, also your accuracy %

[tawny oak]

fix the crosshairs on 4k settings, wtf is this shit why does the options have it so tiny but in the game its huge

[shell lotus]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾

[sharp flower]

Skins in this game should be unlockable over playing instead of just bought, none of the skins feel good to earn because there are so few (mostly just colors) you get from progression

[red inlet]

Adjust AA to 40 and response time to 0.25 so controller players can continue to play

[ebon peak]

Please add MnK support on consoles 🥺

[subtle barn]

From million players on day 1, down to 35k players. Every game I play there're always cheaters. If you guys want to make a game, at least know how to make a proper anti cheat. I wont be so surprise if this game will die in few more months

[meager moth]

Nukes are STILL overpowered. Why the fk do C4's not affect red cannisters?

[past fox]

😦

[fallen copper]

show ranks of teammates bruh this light class is NOT gold 2

[oblique peak]

For the Quick Cash mode we desperately need the game timer to match how much time is left for the last cashout. Hearing there's 30 seconds left in the round and then having the game end with 10 seconds left feels off.

[red inlet]

Didn't THE production team realize anything from THE drop in numbers? It's good for THE production team to listen to THE players but don't listen to THEm completely. Please stick to your idea, if you think that content is not appropriate, please play a game to prove that it is not appropriate, For example, THE controller, weaken THE controller to win mnk happy, do not think about THE same long TTK game AA is how much? Besides, THE FINALS is a highly mobile game. Maybe you should play it with a controller. Didn't THE production crew realize it was a rock-paper-scissors game, now it's heavy and can kill everything, Why not design THE same amount of blood? Maybe THE production team won't play THEir own game, because you know how shit this game is after THE open beta, and THE number of people who are down now is proof of that

[tawny oriole]

The fking matchmaking is broken wtf, im platin, i played 10 battles with bronce and silver noobs and somtimes gold 3

[cold pilot]

thats the problem, light got extra kills with 0 death in game, its impossible💀

[knotty bloom]

Can they please get rid of that one weekly contract where you must stay hidden for 300 seconds

[shy holly]

Nah, i haven't found that light yet in my game ever.. Even if they are cheating they're still dying to nukes and teams that sticking together

[shell lotus]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾

[woeful void]

Here are some ideas/thoughts I've had while having a blast in game in no particular order:

Allow us to sprint through glass

Make sprinting through doors more fluid, allow us to sprint back through a door instead of being stuck if it is open

Address the range/hit reg on melees, especially sledge. Damage is fine but getting hit when clearly out of range is not

Add indicators for frag grenades. although they detonate very soon after landing, this would allow counter plays

Pause the cashout timer while a team is trying to steal. this will make cashouts way more contested. maybe for tournaments only.

Elevator cashout is problematic and sometimes a free win for a team.

encourage more communication in pubs, no one is using voice chat. text chat would be very helpful.

Recoil tweaking for controller players. I find that a lot of the weapons are unforgiving to control when using analog sticks for aim. We don't need more aim assist but the recoil is wild on some guns.

I've forgotten a few things but i'll post when i remember.

[quick coyote]

buff light

[quartz girder]

recoil tweaking for controller would be great

[astral frost]

I think the one of the most critical thing for embark is if they want to make this a game a competitive game, or a FUN game.
If they want it to be competitive, then there will be a lot of "boring" balancing, or if they want to be fun, they can buff a lot of the under used weapons to make them "op"

[finite dirge]

nerf medium healing stream

[dusk mesa]

It’s pretty balanced I think it just needs to have a multiple heal feature so u can heal both teammates at the same time but it runs out of charge super quickly

[obsidian solar]

Range/hit detect on the shield too, it's bad

[lofty osprey]

get rid of outline

[cosmic spear]

@pearl kiln Any word on if the aim assist being broken and not working before 20 meters is being looked at? It's been a bug since after 1.5 and it's hurting console and controller BIG time. Most console players don't even like turning on crossplay with this big still being a thing.

[sonic spoke]

Not wrong about the cheating. While most of the time the cheaters lose the round because of no team play, when it is a team on then it's instant leave time.

[lofty laurel]

kbm on console

[quick coyote]

true

[humble tinsel]

nerf flamethrower

[lofty osprey]

buff sniper with bonus damage to dome shield

[woeful void]

AFK macro xp farmers are also a massive problem in the game. I come across them multiple times every play session

[tame rain]

anybody else having problems with two teams teaming whole game (they dont shoot each other at all and stand around cash out)

[green bison]

game crashing whenever i do something as simple as queue for a game, this game is dying FAST

[manic aspen]

pls buff nuke

[dull hemlock]

Just throwing in my two cents (again) to remove/rework dead go boom. That's it. It's a terrible modifier that just trolls melee/close range weapon users.

[abstract elbow]

I am on 1440p and crosshair is fucked as well. It looks small in the settings but in game its GIANT

[limpid juniper]

PLEASE ADD BALL PYTHON PET OMG PLEASE

[sudden tangle]

can you please revert the light double barrel nerf, it's useless now, or buff it some other way to make it useable again.

[shell lotus]

Dev gods, pleaseeee at mnk support to console and then put us in pc lobbies so the game will remain fair🙏🏾 or automatically keep on cross play

[ebon elbow]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

[vocal shadow]

thats a really long book about why you dont want to buy a pc

[manic aspen]

pls make aps more useful? or remove the goddamn c4 from the game

btw why is the outside so fucking white, cant see no shit

[shell lotus]

Not everyone can afford pc, some people can barley afford console gaming, what’s the solution to console players that want to use kbm? (on a cross platform game and pc players can use both) either force crossplay on or put us in pc lobbies

[junior arrow]

woah

[woeful void]

exactly, its so uneccessary making comments like they did. We are all gamers at the end of the day. I'm a controller player on PC btw.

[vocal shadow]

if you can afford a 600 dollar console, then you can afford to save up a couple more paychecks for a basic starter gaming pc. you're not going to be console gaming with a mouse and keyboard thats worth anything anyways. yall steady wasting money for like 80 dollar mice and 100 dollar keyboards that your console can't even utilize anyways so it serves 0 purpose to begin with. you're not getting the same thing a pc can use. you're wasting money and then talk about how you can't afford a pc in the same sentence? so thats a rough estimate of almost 800 you wasted so you can play a free game?

also, if it's that big of a deal for you, you can always turn crossplay off. no one is forcing you to play vs pc. you don't know if you're playing vs pc anyways. if you're on xbox you could be playing vs playstation users for all you know. it's just a generic globe icon. that doesn't mean just pc. could be from anywhere.

[sinful fiber]

I know it has been written here before but please add a way to "spend" the vrs after you unlocked everything. And increasing the max profile level would also be appreciated

[subtle oak]

The past week about half my games I join are already half way done. This is annoying and would rather join a game thats just started.

[wicked tartan]

26 to 5

[shell lotus]

Life happens bro, I might be able to save up for a pc but I will have to live way below my means and I will have to do that for months on end and I can’t do that while having bills and a kid, $600 every 7 or so years vs $2k even $1.5k up front are to different breeds of ball game and 180 for a kbm alone is crazy no console player is buying that so stop the cap

And you say just turn off cross play but I can’t, I have homies who have pc and I play with them, why should I not be allowed to plug in my mnk when I play with my pc friends? Like you hating for no reason, 1) I would have a pc if I could, 2) I should be allowed to plug my kbm when I’m on cross play, if you disagree your just hating for no reason

[vivid olive]

REMOVE C4????

[broken notch]

yeah naaa

[twilit viper]

what do think the reacon sense reworke is gonna be

[woeful void]

Where I am, a console costs around R13 000, my pc which is pretty decent cost me close on R28 000. 5800x3d, 3060ti, prime mobo, 36000mhz 32gb ram, 500gb nvme. its not cost effective to build a pc with the current prices of GPUs.

[steep patio]

I don't understand the argument of "I can't afford a PC" when they have a PS5 or Xbox Series X. Want to know how much I spent on my PC? 350$. How many frames do I get? 60-70. Stop making excuses and get a PC. If you like consoles, then alright that's totally fine. I used to play solely on consoles as well. But "not enough money" is not an excuse when you have a PS5.

[merry creek]

Anyone else on xbox struggling to join party?

[hallow ruin]

PC is just objectively better for fps shooter games

[round goblet]

Got a triple MMM 2 Recon/Heal beam 3 stack abusing Rapid Melee Exploit and such in a Casual Match damn we need a hotfix for that.

[vocal shadow]

edit since it was just a wall o' text :/

oh trust me i know shit happens. i got 3 kids to take care of. keyboard and mouse on console doesn't make sense. just because i disagree doesn't mean i'm a "hater." it literally doesn't. you don't get the same benefits with them on console that you do on pc. so the whole mnk debate is pretty much a moot point since you still won't be on the same level against say, someone who has a mouse with multiple functional buttons, an adjustable dpi setting and near 0 latency on button presses. you're actually putting yourself at a disadvantage tbh because latency for you is higher than it is for me.

you don't need a top of the line pc to play games. the minimum basic requirements even needed to run this game, which specifically, is on a graphics card that was made 8 years ago and a i5 processor.

i built my pc last year and spent almost 3 grand on everything. i didn't have to but i paid a premium for all white components so that was my choice. i saved and worked my whole ass off to afford it though. I had a cheapo used gaming laptop i paid 500 bucks for before this though. this game was never intended to have mouse and keyboard support on console and there was a patch that went through that accidently let you use it. you were all fine with it before that slipped on accident. why are you suddenly not ok with it now?

[delicate notch]

I wanted to play with more than 2 ppl yesterday. I have however no option to do so. Pls consider introducing some kind of Private Lobby, where I can play with multiple friends and create teams before every round. Coming from Splatoon 3, I wish The Finals had that too.

[limpid juniper]

PLEASE ADD BALL PYTHON PET

[ebon elbow]

Just because u saved up ur hard earned money doesn’t mean u get to gatekeep mnk, it’s not like mnk is a thing of the past a lot of the fps games out rn use it, I mean u can even use it on ur phone. it’s A CROSSPLAY GAME what’s the point in having crossplay if we can’t have freedom of choice when playing, also we and many others are asking for INPUT BASED MATCHMAKING, and u said how we would be at a disadvantage against people better mnks what makes u think that pc players are any different then us, you spent a lot of money on ur pc. Ok 👍 that was ur choice , no point complaining when someone who didn’t gets to play the same way that u do

[modern tartan]

PLEASE allow 120fps on consoles!

[midnight sierra]

im a pc player, but ngl im not seeing the logic behind removing accessibility solely bc you personally wouldnt use it on console. like the entire "i can/cant afford it" thing is entirely irrelevant in this case

i use controller on my laptop sometimes, should that support be removed bc it "doesn't make sense" when i can just use a console even though im not home and have no mouse? might as well remove steam deck controller's support too bc thats a competitive disadvantage too lmao. people like using whatever they want just because its what theyre comfortable with. reWasd quite literally was still allowed within the game to maintain accessibility (only aim assist gets removed when detected), pc has a million options for input so why should console only have one

also @ebon elbow hard agree on the input based matchmaking thing, thatd solve a lot of issues too

[shell lotus]

First off, bro it does make since when you equate crossplay into the mix. The benefits you just talked about, guess what? Console get those to, there literally binding on other games for extra mouse buttons, adjustable dpi, and near 0 latency, but you wouldn’t know cus your a pc gamer

I am well aware you don’t need a high end pc to start pc gaming, but 1k is the bare minimum and I’ll be able to save that in almost a year, and by the time that happens, ohh shit my car fucked, or shit I gotta get this fix, ect.

Your obviously fortunate for the position your in to be able to drop 3k on a pc (if you spent over 1.5-2 years saving then kudos man, for havin that dedication) it just feels like you just have a pc owners perspective

@steep patio what tf you get a pc for $350 that runs this game at 60-70 fps, I smell cap, unless you bought it off a friend which is a fortunate situation

[fading yoke]

IF A FULL TEAM LEAVES THE GAME IN QUICK CASH, THEN NO ONE SHOUL:D JOIN THE GAME IN THAT TEAM

[modern iron]

Every once in a while the game still crashes on my machine 😭

[harsh trail]

day 3️⃣2️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives overhaul to increase their viability

**THANK YOU EMBARK FOR IMPLEMENTING ONE OF THE REQUESTED CHANGES, BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.. **

the throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior.

some things that could be done to resolve this issue:

🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 allow right click to be held
🔪 tweak animations to feel more impactful, they feel very weak. almost as if you're throwing spoons 🥄

please show some love to this weapon embark! see you all on day 33!

[lofty laurel]

Kbm on console

[vague chasm]

plz give us text chat <3

[cyan totem]

There is nothing wrong with calling heavy tanks, beacouse its their role to tank damage, but i think their health number is a little too high, even for a tank in a fast shooter

[fading yoke]

MAKE HEAVIES HAVE MORE HEALTH

[torpid summit]

PLEASE FIX : Tell me why or how two bronze 4 players and one silver 3 player end up in a ranked lobby with top 100 diamond players. This is super insane.

[abstract elbow]

How many hackers do you guys see a day, I mean the blatant ones that go like 30/0. I would say probably around 3 a day? sometimes less sometimes more

[torpid summit]

PLEASE FIX : Tell me why or how two bronze 4 players and one silver 3 player end up in a ranked lobby with top 100 diamond players. This is super insane.

[toxic shadow]

remove recon

[merry tartan]

Add mnk to console !

[cold pilot]

those are just the obvious
we still have some whos acting like pro player cheaters like wallhack norecoil

well at least I wonder they could deal with obvious cheaters, those are very rampant on weekends/holidays

[tender sigil]

Why is the defribilator not working on some places like bushes ? Its very gamebreaking especially in tournament and why sometimes I cant shoot rpg ? Its fully loaded but it just doesnt shoot

[abstract elbow]

tbh i dont understand if hackers actually get banned, guy i played with (other team i mean) on the 22nd is still hacking and climbing ranks on leaderboards

[quartz nexus]

what is going on with this class exploit, 3 games in the past 24 hours ive ran into a medium dashing and invising ATSM double barreling into defibbing his team, few hours later its a light with jump pad and rpg (atleast that was fun-ish to fly around n watch) are the devs aware or is this new edit: @woeful void holy smokes dude yes i didnt mention it cus i figured they were out of los and it was a reach but if its not an isolated incident dang bro they gotta get on that asap

[woeful void]

i swear i've seen this happen. watched okes come back from the dead like they were defibbed yet no one was around the death idol.

[rigid vessel]

fix melee glitch

[lofty laurel]

kbm on console

[toxic shadow]

wouldnt you like to know

[shell lotus]

Mnk to Console

[wide cipher]

they still have the shooting bug where it says you have max ammoo but keeps reloading, you can negate this by using a zip line but still a really annoying glitch ngl

[shrewd plank]

3-2 Mediums META because of the defibrillator (video)

Defibrillator has to be nerfed. Currently Medium has the best all around weapon and the most OP gadget. If you face against a full medium team you need to kill them 6 times to wipe them out. It's straight impossible.

M/M/M - RS/RS/HEAL is one of the best setup right now. The other one is M/M/H - RS/HEAL/SHIELD. There is no other op options at ranked right now. You could argue you saw good H/M/L teams, but good players will always found other ways to be efficient.

IMO Defibrillator should have a 1.5 minutes cooldown and 5 seconds cooldown after revive. Medium already have Heal and free wallhack atleast don't give them free revives so often.

A fight in the ranked final round can last for a minute since a cashout is 2mins. So a M/M/M team has to be killed 6 times atleast to wipe them out. If you are slow, you need to kill them, 9 times in 1 minute. Defibrillator has to be nerfed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaymDcYKQvU&ab_channel=95Kyo

[faint hazel]

We're facing this issue almost every game. Squad from two PC players and me on XBOX. Cross enabled of course, tried to point same region instead of automatic. Fixed only by re-entering the game. Any official feedback on this?

[ebon elbow]

Add mnk to console

[frosty cave]

Buff throwing knives

[manic aspen]

DONT ARGUE WITH HIM HE IS DUMB

[fervent magnet]

Kbm support on console please? Crossplay exists...

[dim creek]

Could maybe they be less stingy about cosmetics or grindable currency? Even some of the real $$$ cosmetics are kinda basic.any unique shirts pants cost 10+$ most players will uninstall after seeing the buy only customization

[velvet moth]

Only if that puts you on PC lobbies, I don't want to go against MnK me on xbox, I get a lot of that playing with friends on PC.

[red nest]

its not nessesairy man no body say you need too buy something

[dim creek]

Just saying,the push over 100 cosmetics in front of you the moment you load up,all of which cost a significant amount of $$. If you witnessed the backlash from apex prices and micro transactions, you'll see this is a great way to push away pass & long term consumer's. People will get bored before they really get invested.its advertising a great amount of customization on streams,but leave out it'll cost over 100$ to get a significant variety of unique items.

[sudden tangle]

Give light a reason to be played in ranked. Nerfing recon will help but won't do it. Come on, don't make me suffer yet another week of little to no finals.

[proven pelican]

stop soloqueueing, light is good when paired HML and comms

[red nest]

its a easy way too support a small game studio and I think its okey 10$ bq if you a worker and get some money its not much and its okey for me cosmetic and yeah it cost a loot but 100$ its not much (swiss) fore me and yeah its expenisv fore some people but i can say i like too give my money too the dev bq they doo a great joobb and nice cosmetics

[dim creek]

Awell it's their funeral. it's literally the reason players troll apex so much.now the lobbies take 10 minutes wait per game.js

[lusty python]

I think there should be a rank between gold and platinum. i play in gold and i see a big skill gap in me and other teams. its too difficult to play with people who belong higher but stuck in gold

[fervent magnet]

... then don't use crossplay?

[velvet moth]

Saco de wea, TF did I say, as long as they are put with PC lobbies and not console. Siempre un aweonao conchetumare tiene que salir.

[red knot]

I just got spawn killed after getting into an already running match... PLEASE FIX THE SPAWN LOGIC

[winter zealot]

#removeturrets

[pliant temple]

Custom lobbies, loss forgiveness for people quitting out in ranked, fix the opening and closing of doors so you can not get stuck in them

[acoustic storm]

Remove recon

[dim creek]

Make turrets destroyable?recon is tactical.its not broken.its just about balance.

[timid coral]

Hey guys can we have M&K option for Console players ?

[proven pelican]

no game does loss forgiveness for leavers in ranked, otherwise people would just group up and select a fall guy if they were ever gonna lose the game

this would be especially bad in a f2p game where you can just make infinite 'fallguy' accounts

[untold geyser]

Mantling over objects needs updating. Reviving teammates or even stealing a chashout will randomly stop progressing therefore having to start the process all over again.

[pliant temple]

Apex does loss forgiveness in ranked lmao

[pulsar jackal]

You can build a PC that curb-stomps all current-gen console CPUs and equals XsX/PS5 in GPU for 650 dollars. Whoever told you those numbers for a PC are obviously bullshitting

[woven briar]

Good morning! Bring back Mnk on console? Eh? Eh?? Ehhhh?????

[proven pelican]

And ranked is fuck broken in that game, to little surprise

[raven hatch]

FIX THE SOLO Q always join Low ranked players with a iq of 25/

[abstract elbow]

can anyone convince me why las vegas is a GOOD map?

[wicked heath]

Petition to release the OST as a high bitrate product on Steam! Or on streaming services.

I NEED the original OST please.
@wheat fractal

[blissful flame]

Right now it's disorienting to get revived during a nearby fight, the reduced invulnerability time on revive has made this problem even more punishing.

It may be nice to be able to swap your spectator camera to the place where you might get revived (@ your resurrect trophy), but with a filter that only shows the outlines of the structure (not players) so you can't use it as intel. This way you're ready to move the right way when you get revived

[cold pilot]

fix your cheaters
LuckyGunner#7764

[earnest tide]

can you pls add hair to all the hoodies (safety garb and volpe bout blanket)

[pliant temple]

Loss forgiveness isn’t why it’s broken it’s ok that your bad at apex

[meager moth]

Get rid of nukes you absolutey useless developers. C4 cannisters still in every single game insta killing as red cannister + c4 doesnt have speed reduction. Games dying because of these incompetent devs. gg.

[manic aspen]

aps counters nukes really well

[tender minnow]

don't ever let the game die embark

[woeful void]

Stun gun needs to be reworked, it should not be a glitch grenade and a mobility ADS killer. allow us to use our gadgets or defensive abilities while being stuck at a walk and hip fire

[lament talon]

Sledgehammer has aimlock on walls which looks like im aimbotting

Please make an option to remove the melee lock

[soft gorge]

Why would he build a PC if his console can run the game just fine? Jesus, you guys can't comprehend the game is crossplay with PC (MKB) included, input option should be mandatory and the factor to matchmaking.

[pulsar jackal]

I didn't mean anything regarding that, just disproving insanely expensive PC claims, he can do whatever he wants. And I agree the game should have input based matchmaking if possible.

[lime fable]

Why this game dead

[near prism]

I can’t play this shit anymore , all specialization is OP , 0 gun fight skills

[crude sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/yh-gif-25406060

[woeful void]

why don't you try again, but this time not be needlessly insulting to the devs. You know they are less likely to listen to people who can't seem to speak nicely to others.

[soft gorge]

You gotta understand that there are people from all over the globe here. For example, where I live a good PC would cost me something between 5 ~ 6 thousand (in my currency), a console is much cheaper and gives me the same experience of a PC.

[vernal ermine]

add fucking mnk support to console

[pulsar jackal]

Your singular currency doesn't equal to a singular dollar, I live in a low purchase-power country too, yet PC parts here are only 10% higher than that of the U.S. PC parts when translating our currency to U.S. dollars, in my country you can get a RTX 4060 pre-built for the same price as the cheapest PS5. I understand your argument but not all mid to low income countries are the same.

[white lily]

Are we going to get a 120 FPS Mode on Playstation? Or isnt it possible with UE5?

[timid wagon]

It can absolutely be done with 720p upscaling

[toxic shadow]

the shitty cashout spawns are starting to become really annoying, every fight just dumbs down to the winning team in a cashout fight getting third partied by a team that just respawns

[soft gorge]

That is what I'm saying, there are many variables and this argument of "buy a pc" doesn't make sense. For you (and many others) it is possible to buy one, for me (and many others) it is not.

[pulsar jackal]

I never said buy a PC, just disproved that PCs are thousands of dollars expensive, which they are not.

[abstract elbow]

I think the glaring issues with the game that the community managers are not informing the playerbase on, that is, if they are even being looked at (minus recon) is going to kill the game. Devs / CMs should at least acknowledge they realize there are a TON of problems with the game that are causing people to leave in huge numbers. At least it would give a reason to think that they actually care about the big issues rather than nerfing / buffing 1 damage on a gun

[sudden tangle]

day 1279398 of asking to make L an actual role in ranked

[abstract harbor]

Game is absolutely loaded with cheaters. I'm out.

[lusty grotto]

The game is getting very boring, plus everyone is medium and all with rcon etc and on top of that cheaters, I just played a game, 2 cheaters, one on each team, so it's impossible, the game is getting very boring

[gleaming geyser]

2k twitch viewers?? Will players comeback? Only cheaters know

[paper stream]

You really want people to cheat with this bulshit matchmaking against 3-stacks playing 8-10h a day, aren'y you?

[wind frost]

Visual clarity

Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.

I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.

HUD
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice.

[earnest ermine]

Using Twitch viewership to determine if a game is healthy like an idiot.

Mods, send them to the shadow realm

[wild axle]

Hello ^^

I don't know what Embark has planning for the future of Secondary Gadgets, but I'd like to see some content updates there!

Light is really suffering right now because their kit has a lot of ways for them to engage in a fight, but outside of the Cloak and Vanish Bomb, they don't really have much of a chance of getting out of a team fight alive.

I think if Light had some form of deployable shield like Heavy's Barricades or Dome Shield, or if there was a universal Health Pack secondary or Health Canister you could find, Light would have more survivability to be an efficient part of a ranked team.

Heavy and Medium both have places in Ranked because they have a long enough TTK that they can stay in most of the fight before retreating. Light can only take 1 or 2 stray bullets before they need to retreat without taking another hit.

Light is awesome at hit and run, but hit and run can only take you so far in a ranked match with stationary objectives.

The Finals is finally a shooter that I can play without being irritated about how shitty the quality of a AAA title is.

[lusty grotto]

They are taking a lot of time to fix things, hack, balance, etc. and if there is a competitive game, you don't add things and fix them quickly, it dies. I would be very sorry because I love the game and have been playing it since the first beta. We'll see if they lift this. Competitively they have it easy, blocking classes that cannot be repeated and removing recognitions and little else, you have the best balance, you don't have to think much.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[dim creek]

Yeah 6 hours is enough for me. Uninstall.im out.

[glad ginkgo]

MGL32 needs to be impact based just like CL 40

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:

• This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
• Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 seconds OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment

[modern siren]

Based Opinion

[quick coyote]

Since you want to repeat this everyday.

1. I actually agree with this. Our contestants are totally capable of not being slow while simply holding a shield up.
2. The sword has this, but it's not too useful to actually catch up on people. It's more of a surprise attack. If you want your alt power slam you can't have this as well. It would just be a lunge alt attack. Might be too good anyways.
3. God no. Please for the love of God why. A melee weapon that slows you? With the mediums health and kit? That would be insanely good.
4. Not sure how I feel about this one. Wouldn't mind it changed just to see how it plays but 4 hits feels a bit.. too little for a heavy. Again, wouldn't mind it tested though.
5. This is the only really odd and bad one. Similarly to the lunge, this gives someone with frontal damage immunity the ability to very, very quickly push into somome. This one seems way more OP though, you're getting way too much potential damage and push-ability for simply pressing a button. The swords lunge is annoying but it's nothing like a charge and slam attack. And the knife is literally just a backstab. Things that those tools are just capable of normally. An alt attack where you shield bash to push someone (and maybe do some damage) would fit way better than this or a lunge. It should not be a second ability for the M's kit.

Still the same, still doesn't make sense.

[proven pelican]

everything on this list is based and true and should be implimented yesterday if not sooner

[woeful void]

another one:

Change the way assists are counted in the game. your KD can get ruined because of the way it currently works.

The kill should not be counted as whoever dealt the last bullet but rather who dealt the majority of the damage (in the case where you hit the player for 90% of their health) unless a certain amount of time has passed.

[cold sorrel]

TLDR: Shield Main's opinion: make shield op

Actual response:
I disagree with almost everything, except that heavies should be able to be downed in 4, not by buffing the batons damage, but by nerfing heavy's hp pool

Also dead go boom is completely cheeks top to bottom, even for gun players, I agree with the assertion to make it damage on the environment, but punishing players for getting kills is absurd.

[icy marten]

can we get a killcam please? 🙂

[still wigeon]

Please for the love of all that is holy get rid of SBMM or at least only make it pull from your rank. I understand it's there to "Help combat smurfing" but I've been playing with exclusively my friends since I got the game; I'm a leaderboard player in essentially every other FPS game I play, and I don't believe Finals is going to be an exception to that, I'm currently in Gold 2 as well are all of my friends that I've been playing with as I've been playing with them exclusively like I said, we're getting put against people who are legitimately top 100 players. My friends can't compete because they don't have a background in ESports like I do, and while I'm doing alright, my friends are getting legitimately cremated. We were in a stack just the other day of me and my friend in silver and my other friend in gold like me, so why on god's green earth did it put us against NUMBER SEVENTY-EIGHT IN NORTH AMERICA? If SBMM is going to be a feature of the game at least only make it pull from people of similar rank. There's no reason that I should have to play against people that are the rank I'm supposed to be in in order to get up to that rank from the bottom of the ranked system, that just doesn't make sense. I, as well as all of my friends, should be against people that are either from our average MMR or, better yet, IN OUR OWN RANK, what is the point of having a ranked system if your rank is completely ignored? It's frankly abhorrent design and it's made it legitimately unplayable to even try and have fun with my friends. It sucks. I want to be able to play the game but with how they have match making work right now I'm either forced to ditch my friends and play on my own or drag my friends into matches where they don't stand a chance of doing anything. That's not a sustainable model for a ranked game, especially not one that wants a future in ESports. Make SBMM only pull from ranks around your own or fully average out everyone's MMR, stop putting golds vs #78 in NA.

[cedar rapids]

no light gamemode?

[ruby kiln]

ban the chinese

[quick coyote]

could have just "tl:dr; make ranked a ranked mode."
I agree though. My first game with my friends after I played awhile, we got matched with a full top 500 squad. The next game was similar. There's no way we should even come close to playing with them lmao.

[upper citrus]

ranked is pretty bad but also the actual rank doesn’t mean anything. there’s almost no way to lose fame so it’s pretty much just an hour counter and not a way to show skill

[proud ocean]

Matchmaking is in a weird stay right now. SBMM should be in a way less strict and on the other way based on your actual level.

[lusty grotto]

I'm already past playing this is impossible everyone with medium with rwith 3 extra lives etc. so you can't play I'll stop playing and wait for this week's patch to see if they do something or if everything stays the same

[cold sorrel]

There is definetely a way to lose fame, its called queueing with your far more skilled friend, and getting wiped because it's a team game, and losing first ko round because only 1/3 of your team is capable of competing in that match in particular (skimza's story is true, I am one of the aforementioned friends)

[boreal wagon]

please make poison a %hp dmg instead of flat rate... shit does nothing to heavy but ont taps light

[untold haven]

just some QoL suggestions
-reduce objective marker opacity when ADSing
-ability to copy/paste contestant cosmetics between each other to avoid having to rebind the emote wheels and update looks individually on each
-have announcer lines able to interrupt each other with important information so im not getting intel 20 seconds late
-add a small delay when dying before you can spam revive request so i don’t look like an asshole for trying to use an ability as i die

[near prism]

Nerf mesh shield

Nerf invisibility

Nerf Nukes

Nerf recon sense

Rework healing beam

Nerf turret

Prevent double or triple any specialization .. for example, if a team has three mediums they can’t choose the same specialization ( please please please )

Fix Seoul spawn (usually spawn far away from the cashout)

Make us able to decide to accept revive or die

Make ranked matches 3-team 1-Vault and decrease the respawning time

Make the glass window breakable when the player run into it

Add more weapon in the feature

Ban cheaters 🙂

As an old shooter player ( since i was 8yo ) I can say that these changes would make the game way better :))

[tawny oriole]

This braindead devs dont understand that they should just prevent c4 from attaching on container, player should be able to attach c4 where ever they want just not on container. Spam solved

[smoky storm]

healing beam:healing doesn't stack.Healing is paused for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg. environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd. Prevent mercy syndrome

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message
#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions:#👂┇game-feedback message

[timber sage]

I just hate BR personally, especially in a run and gun shooter

[lost flare]

katana skin for sword pls

[lament talon]

No. If you say nerf everything play another game

[thorn elbow]

buff the sawed off shot gun. ive got multiple clips of me shoting mediums and heavys and getting them to a sliver of health, what am i suppost to do when there is no ammo in my gun???

[stable moon]

quick melee, any grenade, breach charge, sneeze on them. same shit you do when you get an enemy down to a sliver on literally any other class

[silk inlet]

Hello,
I’m an avid user of practice mode. Everyday before playing I warmup and utilize this mode to use and try out new gadgets and guns. Kudos for making such a complete training range 🙂 The main issue I have with this mode is that it’s only a solo experience. My enjoyment of this mode would greatly improve if up to two more friends could join me in the practice range. Specially when introducing friends to the game, being able to use the training grounds with them instead of having to stream my pov to show them strategies and mechanics would be great. This would also double as sort of a custom match where we could fight against each other in a low stakes environment to train countering against different gadgets, guns and classes. I feel like this is the only thing holding the game back from feeling like a complete experience (or the lack of some other custom match option) and I think it would make a great addition to an already great game!

TL:DR: Add the ability for up to two friends to join my practice range

[queen rover]

playerbase has absolutely cratered. Maybe a month between balance updates/taking a month off for the holidays wasn't such a good idea

[abstract elbow]

I have never seen one person from Embark, except for Community Managers say one thing in this discord, what is the point of Launch Feedback if its just ignored

[wind frost]

Visual clarity

Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.

I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.

HUD:
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice.

QoL
Ability usage:
Please give us an option for "let go to confirm" use for abilities and gadgets. Instead of pressing 3, then left click, then 1, allow us to have the option to use abilities with a single button click, where holding it takes it out, and then letting go uses it, and then it switches back to your main weapon automatically. This is pretty standard for most other FPS games.

Balance changes
Make automated abilities less strong, this mainly just includes mines, i think they should do less damage on trigger, and should detect players hit by it, so it's less immediately punishing to trigger them, but still gives the user an advantage.

Increase health regeneration for all classes. It can be super hard to defend some of the objectives, especially in the quick cash game mode, as you effectively have to win 3-4 team fights in a row to keep the objective.

General nerf to "stall gameplay", this includes a nerf to mesh shield and heal. Players should be punished for making mistakes, and the get-out-of-jail-free-card of holding up mesh shield, and especially in combination with heal beam can completely turn a fight even if they made massive mistakes.

[slim karma]

Remove lights decloak sound, it is pointless to have since you can already fire while cloaked, all the decloak sound serves to do is punish cloak and dagger players.

[mellow gull]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

[proud ocean]

I think we’ll probably see a Japanese theme pass next season!

[proven pelican]

all these "we need mnk on xbox" whiners seem to forget one simple thing

they can just use a controller

[lost flare]

lawn gnome skin. i need to see a heavy dressed as a lawn gnome

[fiery moat]

THIS GAME IS GOING TO DIE TOO MANY CHETERS, NOW THE DESIRE GOES ON DAY BY DAY. RESOLVE THIS SITUATION AS BEST AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT TAKES A MOMENT TO FAIL LIKE OTHER GAMES.

[quick coyote]

Yeah nah just rework the cloak device all together. Shit’s more annoying than fun.

[humble steeple]

Im reading through your old balancing suggestions and found this one. I think that making only 1 explosive/c4/mine damage the player at a time seems like a bad idea. If your other solution (c4/explosives getting a bigger hitbox) was implemented, I feel like at that point it should be on the player to shoot the explosives or be watching out for them

[shell lotus]

Show a pc build that $650, and has full optimization in todays pc parts market

[pulsar jackal]

RX 6600 for 200 dollars, or alternatively an RTX 4060 for 300 dollars, or RX 6700XT for 300 dollars YOUR CHOICE - For CPU, there is currently no CPU that is being sold as new that is as bad as XsX/PS5's CPU, so I will go with one that is much better: Ryzen 5 5600 for 130 dollars. 330 dollars total for the two of the most expensive components of the PC, add a 1TB NVME SSD for 40-50 dollars, 2x8GB (16) RAM for 33 dollars, 550W PSU for 50-60 dollars, A PC Case with fans for 50-60 dollars, an AM4 motherboard for 80 dollars. That's it. That adds up to: 593 DOLLARS (593 DOLLARS) for a PC with an RX 6600 (RTX 3060 equivalent from AMD) Ryzen 5 5600 (Much better CPU than PS5/XsX) and 16GB of RAM + 1TB NVME SSD. If you want to carry on this conversation go to the-finals-chat

[earnest ermine]

Give C4 to the medium

[smoky storm]

Why? All that would prevent is stacking explosives for instant kills. For example, double stacking an explosive mine would result in only 140 damage instead of 280.

It's a high TTK game, explosives don't need to insta kill to be extremely valuable. 140 "free" damage in a fight is huge and gives you a giant advantage. It's part of the reason frag grenades and RPG are so insanely good. C4 would still do a ton of damage, so a nuke would still be very valuable, it just couldn't 1hko a team and instant win the fight by itself. It would also have more counterplay with my suggestions, but not instantly kill the person trying to use it, so it's more fair for everyone involved.

That would also allow heavy to keep both it's C4 charges, because double stacking will no longer give them additional damage, just extend the radius.

[dense ether]

Can someone please make this make sense to me? I shoot a rocket launcher head-on at an opponent, I die instantly but the enemy still standing having hardly taken any damage. I would expect it at least to be the same or at least have us both die (take one for the team). This caused us to lose a match because they were claiming a cash out (we had) in the last few seconds, they placed a dome shield, I ran in, and blasted a rocket directly at the light enemy, I died instantly my opponent still stood, and this is me having full health. Can it at least be equal damage from both sides for the least not me taking all and them a fraction of the damage or non at all

[proven pelican]

only if heavy gets jump pad in return

[upper citrus]

the devs keep nerfing things for a reason. things are overtuned and you’re able to play the game like it’s cod and get away with it. things need nerfs

[quick coyote]

Two quick ideas, reduce sniper aim assist, and make it so on console we can select a equipment of the wheel and access it by pressing Y. Because alot of times I've been trying to use one in a pinch amd my stick bounces back to somthing i didn't want

[subtle oak]

You can use Directional Equipping in the settings?

[shell lotus]

@pulsar jackal Now is that build just random parts together? compatibility is a issue, I’m not doubting your pricing rn but if the performance ain’t good I just wasted my money

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[echo dawn]

Can I have toggle aim?

[junior arrow]

Fr

[clever hound]

The game needs private tournaments, to be able to monetize the competition, and to get more young people interested.

[latent root]

I dont know why this occurs but ive heard it happens to plenty of other people and is really annoying.
So basically only when im playing this game it keeps disconnecting my mic and my streamdeck. after 2 or 3 seconds it reconnects again.
Every time this happens my game is lagging massively and im having freeze frames which is obviously not ideal to say the least. Especially when youre in a fight with a light and you cant track him because of it.
Task manager looks fine. Nothing is above 80% most of the time and my PC temps are ok too.
I also wanna add that this has never happened with any other game. No idea what could be causing it.
Ive obviously researched a bit online and some people pointed out that forcing the game to use dx11 fixes the issue. When i tried that under steam launch options my game would just play on 30 ish fps so that wasnt an option either.
Really hope this gets fixed soon as its pretty annoying especially when its happening rapidly withing a few minutes.
Whole thing appears to be pretty random overall tho. Sometimes its completely fine and other times its near unplayable.

[split hatch]

We need custom games

[pulsar jackal]

Every part fits together, it's almost impossible to make a build that is not compatible, like a 12 year old can do it. Anyways yes, this PC will get you about as equal performance in GPU heavy games as the PS5/XsX and much better performance in games like The Finals. But a PC can play Xbox, PS, and Nintendo Switch games through emulation, all on one platform, that and the fact that it's a whole ass PC you can pretty much do anything with. That's what makes PC gaming more economical for those who want to play everything without being restricted.

[tropic swift]

Nerf destruction

Nerf guns

Nerf my brain

Rework my brain circuit

Nerf coins

Change everything

[vale stirrup]

custom match making like w ur feriends and like so you can make maps to practice in. Also I beg to make turrets shoot slower and more options to get higher fps. in other games like fortnite I run 200 in finals I run like 60

[shell lotus]

@pulsar jackal it’s definitely not impossible to to make a build that’s not compatible, it’s not about the parts fitting it’s ab how the parts perform together, random parts might work together but I need to see performance testing before I realize I just bought a bunch of parts that don’t preform well together, and even with this argument of just buy a pc it’s still bs that console supports mnk but devs choose to not implement it in when pc players have the both inputs, it’s not really ab just get a pc, just give the same availability to all, if they added for pc they can just as easily add it for console

[limpid scroll]

I beg when you're in a losing position for the first time add one minute when you open a vault and one when you carry it when there's less than a minute left

[lament talon]

I got 144 fps with 1070 GTX and a GPU from 2016.

What do you guys have???

[ebon peak]

Nintendo??

[near prism]

Avg NA player :

[vale stirrup]

sjsjsjs

[opaque patio]

is there not a way to mute a person's pings?

[sonic spoke]

Cheating is a huge component of the complaints driving nerfs. If players were not using aim bot and no recoil fcar would be fine. Uzi would be fine, etc.
Address cheating before nerfing.

[fringe burrow]

Can yall consider a server browser and a dedicated server release? Having community servers really helps the longevity of a game, and allows people to test various things out without having to yolo some of these questionable balance changes at the main game.

[pulsar jackal]

It's a great mid-range CPU combined with a great mid-range GPU, they are bound to work well and they do, there is nothing complicated about PC parts and how they work well with each other as you make it seem to be. Like I said, I am not against MnK on console as long as they play against PC players, with good balance.

[upper citrus]

wtf lol? i don’t think this is the reason for nerfs at all. i also never see anyone complain about the uzi. and the fcar is not fine lol. one of the best ttk weapons in the game on the support class is not fine

[ebon elbow]

Emulation

[fiery harness]

decloak sound is bugged anyways you hear it at most 2 out of 10 times

[wooden hare]

I suddenly am unable to hear and talk to my buddies on Series X. Xbox party works fine and all other games too. It’s just the finals lobby and games that bugs and I’m not hearing any voice chat. Any fixes ??

[slim karma]

You'll never hear it amongst the chaos, but when it's quiet, it can be heard easily, they should remove it since it doesn't affect any other weapon except the dagger, which is universally agreed to be one of the worst weapons for light.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[paper stream]

Xim detection - not gonna happen until MS and Sony do something about that - that's system level task. Cheat detection... ID, medical record, facial scan, and other biometrics and maybe there will be a little bit less cheaters. Not gonna happen in the next 10 years.

[lament talon]

Nevermind I think with the new patches it droped around 30 fps

[earnest ermine]

Sony already got xim detection on the PS5
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/ps5-update-cronus-zen-not-working-blocked/

[dusk island]

I suggest activating the keyboard and mouse in the console

[balmy estuary]

one hundred mines on throwables should never be one shot

[feral rivet]

I'll leave the actual balance numbers to the devs. Here are the current ranked issues:

Recon (already fixing)

Heavy nuke feels unfun; consider allowing the heavy to be blown up or nerfing the range. Instant deletion from 20+ meters is problematic.

Ranked matchmaking is flawed. As a plat player, I rarely get matched with players of similar ranks, leading to a significant skill gap. Restrict matchmaking to players in the same bracket, penalize team stacking, and prioritize fair matches over shorter wait times.

Ranked system should reflect player skill, not just be a grind. Fixed gains make the leaderboard more about time played than actual skill.

Certain cashouts and positions feel broken, such as the elevator cashout. Teams abusing mines and goo on entrances present limited counterplay. Highground advantage can be manipulated in 3v3 situations where you force the enemy to spawn in unfavorable lowground and open cover positions, making it too difficult to push.

Light class isn't viable in ranked. Insufficient utility, low health, and mobility issues make it challenging to solo carry against real teams. Consider improving the Light class's overall effectiveness in ranked play.

[ebon peak]

Beware,,there are PC morons in chat who will start justifying how pc can have 2 inputs but console needs to have only one

[jagged ocean]

"Furry frequencies" headwear is clipping completely through the long hair, fix it pls 😔 (and other hairstyles probs)

[weak escarp]

Limited FPS setting doesnt save when re-loading the game

[humble steeple]

IMO nukes shouldn't really exist, so I'm more thinking of the use of mines/c4/etc outside of nukes. The main scenario im thinking of is c4 planted around a cashout. To me it feels like it should be on the player to break the c4, or die for not doing so

[slate current]

Why I have to play 20 matches to play a Ranked mode?

[thorn elbow]

Fix the pump action grenade launcher, you can damage multiple people, stop a steal by blowing away the cash out, and after all that, they can use heal beams!!!!

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console 🙏🏾🙏🏾 force crossplay on or put us in pc lobbies

[solar cairn]

Please fix the melee exploit or ban people for using it 🙂

[stone aurora]

I give up using Light Sword until other classes are balanced I'll just be an average Recon Medium build now idgaf anymore just can't even play with it. Anytime I'm against someone with Recon, or else the RPG which isn't as bad, but the sledge hammer is almost impossible to beat unless already damaged vs Light Sword. @lament talon Was thinking that as well, maybe only let console players enable Key board and mouse only if they have crossplay enabled, seems fair....

[lament talon]

No you guys just need to give them good arguments. Console should have 2 but not in roller only lobbies but in crossplay

[dusty juniper]

Custom games

[solid narwhal]

You're over exaggerating how much work it takes to add a xim/cheat detection rework, on console lobbies they could just measure how fast they are turning and how snappy their movements are, while keeping in mind that they may be using a gyro built into their controller + their sensitivity and if their head movements exceeds their sensitivity then they are using xim. Now for cheaters, that's a whole different thing that idk about how they could fix that.

[sour bane]

Embark killed their game by giving Medium legal wall hacks and the best equipment+specialization in the game ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

Nice balance y'all!

[dawn sand]

PLEASE MAKE THERMAL VISION GLABAL and instantly turned on instead of bringing out a square witha knob on it

[shell lotus]

Yall say that type of stuff, but you can literally use xim on pc, so you point is kinda invalid

[rose surge]

Sledge hammer is actually really easy to beat with light sword + dash. I beat them 9 times out of 10.

Personally, I do think dash deserves a buff, maybe 2 more charges would be good.

[upper citrus]

you should be able to jump out of a dash even in air so that it can be used as a mixup instead of being super easy to track

[timber sage]

i'd prefer to be able to have a thin but solid white outline for my crosshair, separate from it being black but a bit transparent

[paper stream]

So to all claiming that it is super easy to do xim detection - if it is why it wasn't done - why is it still an issue? Cause you are no developers and don't know a damn about that - that's why.

[crisp obsidian]

Mouse and keyboard for Xbox and PlayStation

[glacial salmon]

Fix your voice chat or add a chatbox--- so i can tell my team how dogshit they are for running recon and still playing like ass

[runic night]

I think a good fix for nukes (if the devs are insistent on keeping them) would be to limit the amount of deployables you can put on an object to 1. That way they shouldn't one shot people from full HP.

[indigo osprey]

growing up is realising that recon is pretty ass and heal beam is better

[vivid gulch]

mouse and keyboard on consoles please. make a setting so when you want to turn on mouse and keyboard. crossplay automatically turns on.

[past fox]

Yeh lemme plug in my controller with no aim assist, good one

[sour bane]

I live longer when I read dumb shit. Thank you, I've just become immortal

[ebon elbow]

Did u happen to forget the whole aim assist on mnk glitch😅

[indigo osprey]

so you just proved his point @sour bane your ass is bronze you aint know nothing bout ranked lil boi

[sour bane]

• Defib can be pre-charged and thus you can run at a dead teammate full-speed with a charge and instantly get them up. You also get i-frames after this, so smart players tend to hide behind the I-frame for free shields. I think this pre-charge needs to be tuned such that if you're shot at, you lose your charge. I really believe that this change will make it so that it's less of a panic/crutch Defib during the middle of a big fight. It also awards smarter decision making both in the Defib user and the Defibbed. If you're actively shot at, you need to be smart to grab the totem first, move to safe spot, then apply Defib. This also gives some counter play against Defib, because right now, against a full health Defib Med, there really isn't a counter play especially with I-frames. This would be akin to being shot at while invisible as light takes you out of invisibility. And if you're continually being shot at, you cant stay invisible until it's safe. I feel this would be a fair balance.
• Defib moved to a specialization. I'm a bit not sure about this one because I feel Defib will still be a must-pick, because of just how impactful it is. But I think this could balance out every Medium having this SSS-tier equipment and stacking the class in a team. You have to choose between Heal, reworked Recon, Turret, or Defib. All of these (maybe except for Turret) are exceptionally powerful specializations.
• the I-frame also needs to be tuned too. Honestly, I think it should either be kept as is but you can't shoot or use equipment while during the I-frame, or just removed entirely.
• have a sufficiently higher cooldown so it's not available every team fight
• a heavy handed approach to this problem that I've heard many times is, have a team cooldown of Defib. This lets Defib keep its current characters, but make it so that you aren't having to wipe a full Med team twice in order to win a team fight. While I do like this idea, I do think it's quite a heavy handed approach.

[final tinsel]

was coming to say customs as well so i can 1v1 the squad

[ebon elbow]

How did I prove his point?, there was a glitch where on pc, when u plugged in a controller the aim assist would kick in but u would have it even when using kbm, but this said glitch has been patched

[stray basalt]

Bro chill out they literally said they’re making a rework 💀

[torpid plinth]

defib should actually be a secondary fire of heal that overcharges it

[golden iron]

That or shorter cooldown

[dusty juniper]

Gotta be able to set up your own teams and tournaments in this game without a doubt

[dusky night]

i reconnected after game crash qualified for next round and got a suspension so i cant play next round, pls fix

[glacial salmon]

I love that you buffed the Medium's grenade launcher to 2-shot a Light, and 3-shot a heavy. Sarcasm

[limber oriole]

Hey! Hope whoever reads this is doing well.
Loving the finals, you guys have developed an amazing game.
What the fuck is this dumb ass meta where everyone just throws C4 and team wipes
Please fix

[thorn elbow]

Yes and buff the sawed off shotgun

[winter compass]

Hey! Hope whoever reads this is doing well.
Loving the finals, you guys have developed an amazing game.

I was hoping there would be an option added to disable player hitmarkers. I've personally always preferred less "distractions" getting in the way of who I'm aiming at, and I instead listen for hits. Especially with a hit-scan game, if you're on target you don't need the confirmation as much. Again, love the game nevertheless. :)

[indigo flicker]

will middle east servers come to the finals

[quick coyote]

I think im gonna hang those 1000 credits for a good season. Meanwhile i think ill improve in another game worth of my time. Like street fighter 6 or so, been looking at it for a while but grinding the finals didnt let me play other thing

[deft moth]

With the increasing use of gas spam, could we please have Pyro grenades increased to 2 uses instead of 1?

[quick coyote]

Two shot light? It takes me three shots to the enemies head to take them down. Unbelievable.

[glacial salmon]

You must be missing, i can conclude as a light main, i lose more than half my hp on a direct first shot, garanteeing a kill on the second

[past fox]

Go play street fighter

[twilit lily]

No idea why this random clown emoted with yes, but no. Middle Eastern servers will never be coming to this game. It's already losing a metric ton of players it isn't going to add MORE servers with less people playing. And the middle east of all places has some of the lowest overall amount of gamers so hosting servers there are mainly only for bigger games or games with bigger audiences from that region.

[median hollow]

In season 2 ranked, demote everyone a few ranks instead of resetting them completely

This will avoid the chaos of all skill levels competing in bronze lobbies, will be much less infuriating for those in silver/gold who are still progressing, and will still make sure that those who come back to the game after a break won’t get stomped on by those better than them or stomp everyone else in bronze

[faint swan]

I’ve been noticing there’s an Inconsistency of sensitivity when stealing or reviving teammates. Sometimes no matter if something explodes on em you can finish the capture and sometimes a slight move on your aim will reset the whole meter. Annoying

[abstract elbow]

I went through 3 floors still stealing while I fell, other times the cash out moved an inch and cancelled it. Always looking directly at it from like point blank range. Even when it moved and inch and cancelled, I was still in range to steal so wtf?

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife skin. thx

[static latch]

Let us customize with cosmetics we don't own before we buy them

[ebon elbow]

Cant think of a game that does that

[smoky gust]

game mode idea

multiple cashout stations are placed randomly across the map (amount of cashouts and teams is up to the devs)
if a team captures it, they will be awarded with a small amount of money every 10 seconds
(the amount of money needed to win should be based around how much money you get every 10 seconds, so that it will be about as long as a quick cash match)

this game mode would be of a more strategic nature with a lot of variability

do all 3 players push the same cashout to be more likely to take it?
does someone stay behind to protect the one they have?
should the light try to sneak capture one that isn't being guarded?

(to make it easier for someone who is split off from their team, the capture should be "touch and go", so practically instant)

thoughts?

(please add anything you can think of to make this more interesting)

[daring fossil]

did you guys slow down weapon/gadget progress? it's so incredibly slow. I get 10 kills with a revolver and the bar doesn't even move. I max leveled grenades and breach charges weeks ago and nothing since

[timid wagon]

nukes should only travel very short distances - like so short it's a gamble if players hit themselves with it

[earnest ermine]

Lmao

[boreal wagon]

fix the fucking spawn points... so tired of wiping the same 2 teams over and over and over again while the 4th team is just sitting on their ass doing nothing..

Literally played a game where

we attacked and captured the cash out wiping purple team
get attacked by pink, wipe them
purple respawns near us, attacks us, we wipe them again
pink respawns near us, attacks us, we wipe them again
purple respawns near us, attacks us as we're low, we didnt have time to reset and they capture point on the last 3 seconds of cap (while we had it for like 90% of the time)

All while orange team sat in the corner of the map and did fucking nothing getting a cashout for free

I should've just played better and not gotten attacked 5 times on the cashout.. dropping 20k dmg and losing to a team with 6k dmg

[ebon elbow]

Pls get rid of nukes or slow them down

[tame pivot]

Nukes should be removed

[main pond]

☝️The biggest problem imo that no one really talks about. There needs to be an insensitive to actually hold the cash out. Currently being the last 3rd party to show up is the only right way to play. Also spawns needing to be evenly spread between cash outs.

[proven pelican]

if we're not gonna be able to move while using the riot shield can we atleast have it cover the body properly? I'll be facing someone dead on, they'll be firing above the waist and still be doing damage

[daring fossil]

my experience against the riot shield is that it absorbs shots even if I'm shooting at the exposed body.

@boreal wagon I played a QP the other day where we had the cashout for 90% of the time, and one guy on our team was alive, and I respawned just as he was getting killed and it spawned me literally clear across the map with no hope to get there before time ran out.

[unique salmon]

we need more drip

[lean quartz]

remove fucking nukes

[boreal wagon]

What I described was in ranked.. and that is probably the biggest offender ive experienced but I deal with constant 3rd parties ALL the time while the 4th teams sits on their ass and does fuck all..
I get 3rd parties is part of the game but like @sbeve said there is NO incentive to be holding it for the whole time

[twin anchor]

ive been trying to play the finals but i get a error code TFLA0002 and ive reinstall and everthing and i dont know what to do im on xbox

[golden iron]

Bruh the only one that’s problematic is the red canister one. If you want you can reduce the damage even more

[rose surge]

Buff lights

[blissful bridge]

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

[ebon elbow]

U have to delete ur classes, it’s bugged

[upper citrus]

keep nerfing medium and heavy until they’re on the same level as light to incentivize teamplay

[regal ruin]

I feel like being able to buy bundle items separately at a slightly higher price than normal would be a rlly nice mechanic to have literally just because I want the gas mask from the breaking bad bundle, but not the rest of the items. like what the base item cost would be but at like a 25% increase to buy just that item

[oak pike]

Give me a fucking hud opacity option already holy fuck. There is no reason for hud elements to block visibility this much.

[daring fossil]

I agree, if a guy is holding a barrel, it should only take 1-2 shots to blow it up vs the normal 4-5

@boreal wagon I know, im just reiterating how stupid and inconsistent the spawns are.

[shadow quail]

hot take:
one of the best things about the finals is the soundtrack.
the gameplay is super innovative and fun can can be crazy annoying and frustrating at times.
the story is cool but nothing revolutionary.
but the music... dat shit slaps harder than it should.

[proven pelican]

if your medium setup rn doesnt include grapple/bounce pad and defib you're throwing

[surreal meadow]

154 + 154 on nukes, please remove nukes

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E A N D W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[pliant lion]

Can you guys please, for the love of god, do something about the "the dead go boom" event as well? As many people have said make it do arena damage instead of player damage.

[abstract elbow]

I think it’s just inconsistent, bullets will hit sometimes if I shoot the shield and other times shooting their body blocks 100% of my shots

[solemn widget]

I know you said dm you but dash needs buffs not nerfs lmao and cloak is fine where it is

[glass fjord]

HOW ARE WE STILL IN UE5 ANGELSTACK CRASH TERRITORY THIS FAR AFTER RELEASE

[ebon elbow]

Mnk on console

[marble estuary]

Dear Embark,

After multiple heated discussions regarding nukes, I've come to the discovery that most players don't actually think they need to be nerfed but rather they don't feel like they are given a fair opportunity to react to it. Which hurts their sense of counter play. So please STOP nerfing nukes and please ADD a damage indicator for incoming nukes. Solved.

You're welcome.

Which I actually think would be hilarious watching people scatter. As a side note.

@daring fossil your post below is a sick idea! I love the concept of natural disasters, etc

@torpid plinth you're so mean 😭

[daring fossil]

I want to see some better events like a tornado that rips through all the buildings but also sucks people into it and throws them out. Maybe a thunderstorm on the night-time rainy map (which I rarely ever see, I feel like it was removed from the pool) where you can get electrocuted and/or the lightning can blow holes in buildings. A freezing rain event where surfaces become slippery and slide friction is practically removed etc etc. There could be so many cool ones, but we have shit like dead go boom and low gravity.

[torpid plinth]

This is an absolute shit take, ill both explain how and provide a better way to nerf nukes

First off, theres no damage indicators anywhere withen the game, and i think thats good, it handles it in a way most shooters dont, farther seperating itself from being just another cod ripoff, and making your reactions to situations more skill based

the real nerf nuke needs is limiting c4 to only one use, and making red barrels spiral out of control slightly sooner

this would make it almost impossible to nuke at long range as heavy, making it easier to react to because heavies cant get close to you without you knowing

also sorry for being mean, theres so many bad takes here that it has made me bitter

[onyx veldt]

Bring back KbM.

[dim creek]

Do really well with recon if you work as support with teammates.this was lethal in apex as no one usually uses it and gets jumped often.if teams are coordinating,it's very effective with recon and scan grenade.

[upper citrus]

rework defib into a gadget that lets you revive while holding a totem and running. an instant revive gadget will always be a must pick in a game like this

[boreal wagon]

Dying one shot to a tiny grenade on the ground that you never even saw constitute skill issue youre right. We shouldnt add indicators at all!

If not visual, add an audible fuze sound queue or something.. 90% of grenades I die to were impossible to see

@daring fossil idk I just wish they made nades a little bit more obvious.. like I said, the BIG majority of my nade related deaths were impossible for me to see them

[daring fossil]

ive been saying since day 1 this started to be an issue, literally all they had to do was make C4 like breach charges where you can only put 1 down and then have to wait for the cool down for the second one, this change alone would have single-handedly removed 98% of double-c4 nukes from the game. Then they could have made the AOE player damage when C4 is attached to an object like half the size, requiring nukes to be more precise instead of just throwing them in the general direction of a team and getting a free wipe. But instead they made C4 weigh 500lbs and made the damage worse than breach charges (which makes no fucking sense). The idea with making red barrels spin out earlier is a good one (and I have no idea why it already isn't a thing since the other barrels all weight 500lbs with c4 on them), but this should only happen when stuff is stuck to it, they need the range they have normally for taking down suspended structures.

@boreal wagon I disagree, I like that there are no indicators, theres been tonnes of times I've seen or heard a grenade bust through a window or land near me and then I have to scramble to get out of range before it goes off.

@lament talon the devs don't listen to the community though. I would argue most of the changes embark made were the wrong ones, and it's not the communities fault the game is dying.

[lament talon]

The community. You guys are killing the game by complaining about every single thing.

They are not gona do changes that hard. They already did things to c4's and want to rewok recon.

The rest probably takes more time since developing games take time.

But yeah i get you they should be more transparent

[dim creek]

Honestly,the cosmetics are WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.cut those prices if you're going to make 90% of the usable customization pay to play...even EA made more unlockable in battlefront 😥make $$ through battle pass & limited time items..it's literally how game companies earn a bad rep they can't get rid of..reward,not punish...

[steep scarab]

I have a few ideas to nerf nukes:

1.** Make C4 not stack. **If there are 2 pieces of C4 within the detonation radius, only apply the damage for one. That way its still a viable option for opening, without creating an unavoidable 1 hit kill.

2. stronger visual or auditory indicators If c4 is static on the floor or a non-throwable, make it have a brighter indicator light. if its on a throwable, make it beep so loud that other players could hear it from a farther distance. maybe 20m or so

What do you guys think? Would that help?

@torpid plinth C4 is also used for destruction, not only damage so it makes a lot of sense to be able to place 2, also cooldowns are a thing. You can still space them out to deal damage over a larger area, even if its only the 150 base damage of the c4 (I think its 150)

[hexed frigate]

Controller aim feels better, thank you

[torpid plinth]

having c4 not stack wouldnt make sense, why even have the ability to place two? i think it would be much better to have them only have one c4 off cooldown and be able to place 2 at a time, for defensive purposes

and the visual and auditory indicators for c4 and mines are pretty strong already, i dont think they need a nerf

[daring fossil]

you get 1500+ coins from the battlepass (more than you paid for the battlepass), but I agree that paid cosmetics are too expensive, even for a free-to-play game. I bought the gold skin pack just for the kill counter charm, and the charm only tracks kills for a single match and then resets, absolutely useless, and I'm never going to use the other gold skins in the pack, and it was like $16 or something. $8 for a single weapon skin (snub-nose revolver)? $22 for a bundle you might want 1 item from, and no way to buy individual items. Meanwhile we all have 3000/3000vrs and our XP goes nowhere because progression just comes to a grinding halt, and im pretty sure they slowed down the rate you level up gear, I max leveled grenades and breach charges weeks ago, but haven't max leveled a single gun (with probably triple the kills of nades) or anything else since.

@steep scarab breach charges are used almost exclusively for destruction (or trapping the cashout) and they are the only utility in the game with a cool down before you can place the other one, C4 should be the same way.

[modern wedge]

TEXT CHAT 🗣️💯💯

[sonic drum]

agreed

[charred peak]

fix it where you can put 2 vaults in a cashout

[paper stream]

If you are matching me, solo player, against 3-stacks in ranked, give my team 10k or something.

[fallen copper]

nerf everything

[frail prawn]

I actually think its better if you just reduce the C4 hp and just mayyybeee increase the hitbox

Instead of keep nerfing the C4 damage and/or weight (or amount of C4s) (making them spin earlier its fine tbh since red canisters had an advantage against other barrels) but for example, in this patch, nuke range its almost gone if you are not using a red canister but instead of making the nukes impossible to use

The best approach will be making the nukes a danger not only for the target but for the user too, like mines, if you try to create an nuke with mines, you will probably gonna be blow up in a sec cuz mines explode with anything

[torpid plinth]

If you, a solo player, are queuing into ranked, instead of with a three stack, you suffer the consequences, there arnt enough players to matchmake 48 people and cater to you specifically

[simple hazel]

So I just looked at the leaderboard.. I am astonished

[daring fossil]

I got nuked literally point blank earlier today and the heavy just brushed it off and ran away with half health.

[paper stream]

Cool. So either stop playing or what - cheat, to diminish the advantage of three stacks? My group of friends isn't interested in the game - they watched my play a few games and said that it is just boring and repetitive. And people I am matched with in a team 50% of cases seems to be lost.

[astral mesa]

Grr this "can't shoot" bug is annoying me...

[marble estuary]

Please give us dagger users a specific indicator to let us know if we landed a successful back stab, thanks

[timid wagon]

i'm a plat 2 and keep getting bronze and silver teammates with 500 dmg and 1 kill and 8 deaths. it's getting really ridiculous and i can't see how i'm supposed to advance any further

[golden iron]

You will

[cold plover]

Is the flamethrower balanced?

[flint badge]

Make headshots more apparent and give them a custom icon in the killfeed

[frail prawn]

Well... that's actually something than happens when things get nerfed incorrectly, think about it, they reduced the explosion radius (this one is good tbh), then the damage, then the damage again, and again? (not sure) so... if they are far enough they will take like 98 x 2 dmg which is not enough to kill them but since it was closer to you (since they throw it at you) you will probably receive full damage and be dead anyway so reducing the damage is not gonna solve the issue and its actually good for them since they receive less damage but you still die...

Now if you reduce the hp of the C4 and take back the previous damage of the C4, yes, you will still die if you get nuked by point blank (which, is fair tbh) buut... he will also die cuz its gonna be more damage that he will receive and... they will not be able to walk with nukes in hands around the map cuz if someone shoots them, they will die in an instant... So, nukes will still be there, a powerfull tool to blow a team... but also an easy way for the other team to blow you and your own team with your own weapons

People really need to stop asking for "Nerf this, and this and this" and think about what's the issue, this is a feedback channel, it would be great if everyone really take a minute to think about why is it an issue and an optimal way to solve it, also proofs of the issue so Embark is not only being bombed with nerfing asks but receiving actual help from their community

@marble estuary there was an crit yellow indicator but got removed the last patch for some reason, hope they get it back

[cinder roost]

Plat 3 here same problem, that's frustrating

[noble mist]

Slight gripe, I don't like how many of the cosmetics are just recolors. If they didn't cost money I'd understand. Why not just let us pick the colors? It's kinda dumb how if I want white boots I have to buy this pricey bundle, but if I want black boots in the same style I don't.

Also, please give us the option to turn off aim assist on melee weapons. It really messes me up on mkb. It's unwanted movement that ruins the flow.

[dim creek]

Also can you make mines trigger vertical as well? Otherwise what's the point of those lights on a BOOBY TRAP.
If they're not laser triggers what are those lights for other than alerting enemies that it's a mine

[daring fossil]

im definitely not advocating for more nerfs, I specifically was referring to how BS it is that I got one-shot at point blank range and the heavy brushed it off. I agree they nerfed C4 the wrong way, I've stated this several times. C4 damage should go back to what it was at launch, and they should make it like breach charges where they need to wait for a cool down before they can place a second one. double c4 nukes gone instantly. They literally nerfed C4 to the point where breach charges (which are half the size) do more damage

[paper stream]

Bla bla bla, but this game is not supposed to be played solo, bla bla bla playerbase...

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[prisma vault]

how would input based matchmaking affect premade squads though? I'm a controller user on PC and every friend I've made is mouse and key

[simple hazel]

I mean I am almost platinum and I dont cheat.. you just have to be a team player and work well with your team

[marble estuary]

I didn't realize, I hope to god they fix that lol

[quick coyote]

REQUEST: If a player bails in the middle of a ranked tournament they should be docked FP and the team, if they lose due to the player loss (last place), should not be penalized FP. Totall bullshit when people do this. Had this happen today but luckily my partner and I were able to wade the storm.

[vocal shadow]

since you asked. here you go. this isn't including mouse and keyboard since it's obvious you seem to have those things already. and you don't need a monitor since you seem to really enjoy that 60fps life on a tv.

these machines are capable of running 144fps on high settings for most games and exceeds the requirements you're demanding. the "has full optimization" part, i laughed at. it's clear you don't know anything about pc's. but nonetheless, here are 2 options to choose from. go buy that pc homie. you got this.

I also have a 3rd option for 665.

[torpid plinth]

they do get docked FP just wanted you to know

[steep patio]

I have a 400 PC that runs The Finals at 60-70. If I had an extra 250$ to blow it could easily make it work like that.

And I just recently upgraded my PC. It was 350$ But now it's 400$. (I wanted 32 GB of RAM) (It didn't change my frames)

[quick coyote]

Waiting for this week patch to be "solving World hunger" level of fixing the game

[ebon elbow]

Mnk on console

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

@vocal shadow hop off my meat

[timid wagon]

me too. can't play this game without getting furious about recons, nukes or bronze players

[little furnace]

How the hell do people find this game repetitive lol? It is probably the least repetitive traditional fps game I’ve ever played

[amber pollen]

Practice range should be able to hold a full party!! (its not that important rn) it would be nice to be able to go in the range w friends and teach each other different things

[rose surge]

Buff lights

[soft gorge]

I think it would work like it is now: the game prioritizes steam lobbies. I'm on PS5 and every time I play with my friend on pc the game puts us in steam lobbies

[solid narwhal]

Bro that's literally 3 times more than a xbox series s, and like 170 over a series x, you can even get a series s with 1tb(which is basically a series x but minus the $200 extra)and it would still be cheaper 💀. Also, one reasone why we have a console is because it's a preference.

[hushed barn]

display the distance between me and my allies in the screen pls.

[timid reef]

Get rid of invis and tazer, give light a double jump and the model shotgun

[unkempt river]

Whats the point of waiting in queue for ranked if im gonna spawn in match with no tm8s. And then get penalized for leaving like what?!

[rough current]

anyone else having severe issues gaining xp for your weapons consistently?

[flint goblet]

Would anyone else want to try having the cashout timer pause at 0:0 if a player is actively touching it? And if they let go/die/captures it, then it disappears right away.

I personally don't think it would change anything gameplay strategy wise, except making things slightly more satisfying, both for attackers and defenders.

I would also love to know the reason why the devs haven't made it like that, I'm curious.

[gusty warren]

Genuinely wanting an increase to the maximum look sensitivity for mouse sens on pc

[vocal shadow]

I did notice how you edited this 3 times. but the series s is selling for 300 bucks. so not 3 times the amount. the x is selling for 450. the dude i replied to said show him something for 650. which is what the ps5 sells for at gamestop after taxes and whatnot.

everything in life is a choice. you chose to limit yourself to console (because it's a preference 🙄), which has limitations in itself and then complain when those limitations are enforced. when you could have chosen to buy a pc with the only limitations is that of it's capabilities.

something else to note. people complain about "not being able to afford a pc." so you can afford a 400 to 700 dollar console, 20 dollars a month to play games online with it, extra controllers, keyboards and mice for it, the internet bill, ect. but can't somehow afford a pc to use the very thing you want to use? i don't get it. help me understand the waste of money being poured down the drain.

no subscription fee for steam, epic games store, or battlenet. you get a ton of free games all the time from those services, you get the same thing you get on console already at half the cost most of the time. regular sales on games new and old that often times exceed 80% off. if you have an xbox or an xbox account, all of your account information transfers over so you lose nothing. so if you still wanted to pay 20 bucks a month that's still an option. what downside is there to just getting a pc?

[shell lotus]

Badass bro, I might actually try to save up for that shit, cuz there is a lot of other games I would like to be able to play, but it still doesn’t change the fact that console should have the same input freedom in fps games that’s crossplay, it would still take me a considerable amount of time to save up for that but it’s definitely not impossible, I will still be advocating for fairness on mnk on console, they should be put in pc lobbies

Dev gods please add mnk support on console just force us to have crossplay on or put us in mnk lobbies

And even if someone “limits” them self to console for convinces like not having to build there own pc, the same input options should be allowed, just cus your on the “ just get a pc” team doesn’t mean that console shouldn’t get the same rights that pc has in a competitive setting simply because they choose a console

[rose surge]

This game is so depressing. I want to main light so bad, but when I try medium recon+fcar it makes me realize how futile that is.

[tired gulch]

thankfully, recon is getting changed next patch

[past fox]

just win

[lament talon]

its gon get nerfed dont worry also I think light will only be viable in a squad

[modern wedge]

text chat

[solid narwhal]

Nah, you can get a series s for $220 at walmart(x3 is $660) it's mainly dependent on where you get it from, some go for around 150 on ebay used. Now idk what it is after taxes, but I do know it's cheaper than the $670 pc you gave us(I'm not dissing it, good work at finding that shit). Several other games have kbm support, it's not hard to add it back and it doesn't hurt just to ask the devs to add kbm support back to the game especially if they already had it down before the patch that removed it. Fr, I don't care about the games all that much and I know it's a downside but I'm still sticking with it regardless. What is sad is the part where if/when someone with an xbox gamepass switches over to PC, you will need to get the pc gamepass separate which makes no sense at all.

And what @shell lotus said: even if someone “limits” them self to console for convinces like not having to build there own pc, the same input options should be allowed, just cus your on the “ just get a pc” team doesn’t mean that console shouldn’t get the same rights that pc has in a competitive setting simply because they choose a console

I'm not against what you are saying though fr

[dim creek]

Console is for kids with expendable income.pc is for working adults imo.my legion usually at least lasts 5 years without tech lag

[wispy ivy]

Make it to where you can’t camp on the Monday deposits in bank it because it’s stupid and requires no skill

[raven folio]

take nukes out

[rose surge]

I random q'ed into at least 5 matches as a light and lost all of them. Then I just won my first 2 matches as a medium fcar abuser IN A ROW 😂

This game is broke.

[blissful bridge]

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox