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[quick dew]

Quick Cash Duos, 2v2v2v2, 2 vaults spawn at the same time, similar to ranked

[fierce flume]

lets start with that last take. remember that light has 9 weapons compared to med's 6 and also med has 14 gadgets when light has 12. although light has good movement, light is made for speedy, sneaky, sparring. having to waste time place down a zipline or a jump pad is seconds wasted in a fight. ALSO most med is made to be more in-line for support for the team (turrets, mines, ziplines) when lights are usually a bit away from their team flanking, or being in a fight. tbh there is more of an argument for heavy getting the movement items. @keen steppe (forgot to reply lol)

[quick coyote]

reading comprehension test now

[fossil walrus]

Completely agree. Takes away a lot of the game sense that you learn from playing. Lame concept

[rotund latch]

They should add a TDM or search and destroy game modes, not everything should have to involve money!

[junior fog]

This

[glacial salmon]

Not even close. You can flamethrower a rinvis. Sonar grenade a invis. RPG an invis, you even can Recon an invis. There is no hard counter to a recon.

[reef siren]

buff SH1900 pellet dmg back up by 1

[undone veldt]

There needs to be more counter play in the game.
Recon Sense is a prime example of seomthing with no counter play.
Nerf things that have no counter play, like with Recon Sense you could make the advantage come at a disadvantage like you cant move, or there's a refractory period, or it takes time to wind up and down, less specific information.
The Healing Beam might want to be looked at for adjustment too, it feels too cheap when you are skirmishing against someone and they instantly win the fight because of a constant, uninterruptible stream of healing.
I really enjoyed the game in the early betas because it felt like a complex game of scissors paper rock. Almost every problem felt like it had a solution. Someone uses gas? Fire gets rid of it. Someone uses fire? Smoke gets rid of that. How do you counter play nukes (charges placed onto arena carriables), or invisible enemies with a shotgun that can effectively instant kill you?
I can't offer a solution to every problem but this is a game that I want to keep playing, and a game I want to be able to enjoy. New game modes are a must, new maps are a must, there needs to be something to freshen up the gameplay, instead of effectively two game modes.
There should also be more communication with the community.

[quick coyote]

Make medium stronger

[solid narwhal]

My bulge will become bigger if they don't add kbm back to console and remove recon sense from the game it's fr just hacks

[indigo condor]

bait level 1

[quick coyote]

Fair enough, but no one uses flamethrower or sonar. Recon works only if they’re behind a wall. Unless the recon guy is actually looking. In my humble opinion recon can be fixed by maybe displaying the direction of the enemy in a radius. Like arrows pointing to where they are in a 50 meter radius. Without knowing elevation and whatever and invis can have the distortion increased so that you can see them when you’re just walking around. But when you’re in a fight with smoke and dust and whatever it’s way harder. Those are my idea. I ain’t one to talk I’ve never balanced anything in my life except for a pen on my finger

[tacit basin]

remove dead go boom from ranked please and thank you

[indigo osprey]

never make a game lmao

[waxen granite]

Remove recon.

[bleak vector]

recon = wallhacks. wallhacks are illegal

[fathom gale]

Recon remove

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[winged wyvern]

add more types of turrets for every class

[sour bane]

I wonder if a quick fix ability would be good for Light, not stim.

For context, Quick Fix in Call of Duty heals you up (with significantly faster health regen) after you land a kill.

It's sort of balanced because you only get health regen when you land a kill, and only when you land a kill. So you can't just cheese your way to getting HP back; you must get the kill. Helps that often as lights, you get chunked by damage after landing a kill. This would get them back in the fight, or keep them in the fight, longer

Quick Fix also fits with the playstyle of Light where you come in quickly for a kill, and leave. That way, you aren't punished as much being assassin-y, where you leave with like 20 HP left.

[fierce flume]

it would be cool to sacrifice your specialization for a passive. maybe meds could get faster reloads on kill and heavy could get... idk faster gadget reload?

[icy aspen]

Has aim assist been fixed yet?

[quick coyote]

Still broken.

[ripe musk]

make a party vc

[vague sigil]

for controller please make toggle spring only begin sprinting as opposed to canceling sprinting

[undone veldt]

Remove the penalty for leaving games, especially after someone on your team has already left.
It feels like I'm being held hostage in a game when both my teammates have already left

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.
That's why I haven't played the finals.

[unkempt basalt]

Remove it only when a teammate has left**

[south gale]

Can we get team chat back on console

[indigo osprey]

recon is easy to beat just win your ones

[dreamy latch]

Could we have a sidearm gadget for one or two of the classes, like a weaker low-ammo pistol to act as a secondary weapon so niche weapons like the dagger or grenade launchers can shine a little more

[lost flare]

lawn gnome skin pls. would look comical af on heavy and light

[reef siren]

SH1900 prenerf probably the most fun I've had in this game, win or lose with several 20+ kill games like clockwork. Now it feels like it shouldn't even be in the game, just a fkn tease of what it once was. Hell, maybe if it was only a 1 dmg nerf per pellet or just a nerf to it's range slightly would've been better. I can't even look at the gun anymore. Honestly feels like it's only good against other lights now, and when they're all playing recon MMMMMMMMMMM because that's the clear meta embark is going for just feels like straight ASS. It went straight from glass-cannon to all glass, no cannon. The V9 buff feels pretty nice though just not as fun

[smoky storm]

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions: #👂┇game-feedback message

[oblique mango]

DEVS can you guys change the regen for for all classes. If movement and health changes for all, then so should regen. Light should take the least time and HEAVY should take the most, with Medium in the middle. The current heavy regen time is perfect but i believe med and light regen time (the cooldown time between damage and regen start) should decrease to balance the lights.

[ebon reef]

being pulled into a 1 map team in ranked game only to loose 80 fp is not fair tbh... correct it a bit so that if someone is alone they dont loose so much

[dusty tide]

wow thats a lot

[vast quail]

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[wind frost]

this still makes 0 sense

[reef galleon]

a hot topic that ignites passionate debates within the community. Here are some angles you can explore for your question:

Arguments for buffing Light:

Low pick rate and win rate: Despite their mobility, Light class often struggles against the durability of Heavies and the versatility of Mediums. This lack of competitive viability translates to lower pick rates and win rates, prompting calls for buffs.
High skill ceiling, low reward: Mastering Light class movement and tactics requires significant practice and finesse. However, even with skillful play, they can be easily outgunned or overwhelmed, making the effort feel unrewarding.![yesegg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1107969268613656596.webp?size=128 "yesegg") 
Lack of distinct identity: Some argue that Light class lacks a clear niche compared to the other two. They may need tweaks to their abilities or gear to truly shine as a high-mobility, flanker-oriented class.

Arguments against buffing Light:🤷‍♂️

Potential for dominance: If overbuffed, Light class's agility and maneuverability could become oppressive, ruining the game's balance and making other classes obsolete.
Skill gap widening: Buffing Light might further exacerbate the skill gap, making them even more effective in skilled hands while remaining underpowered for casual players.🇱 
Focus on gameplay mechanics: Some propose that developers should address gameplay issues like map design and weapon balance instead of directly buffing a specific class.

Further discussion points:🖕

Specific buff ideas: What kinds of buffs could be implemented without breaking the balance? Increased damage, cooldown reduction, movement tweaks, etc.
Alternative solutions: Are there other ways to make Light class more viable without direct buffs, like map changes or encouraging team play strategies?
Developer communication: How transparent is Embark Studios with balance changes and community feedback? Are they considering buffing Light?

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[rigid minnow]

please make it 1 of each class per team in ranked. this defib spam meta will kill the game

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.
That's why I haven't played the finals. REMOVE RECON SENSES

[indigo osprey]

EVERYONE IN THE FEEDBACK COMPLAINING ABOUT RECON IS ALL IN BRONZE

[past fox]

FAX

[boreal wagon]

they rather completely hard nerf light (the weakest class in the game by far) than nerf medium..

[brave plover]

light mps doesnt feel the same since patch 1.5.0 ... please fix this embark ...

[final shore]

you checking the reaction

[rigid minnow]

1 MEDIUM 1 LIGHT 1 HEAVY PER TEAM IN RANKED DEFIB SPAM AND HEALING GANGBANG IS HORRIBLE AND WILL KILL THE GAME

[oblique mango]

imma throw this in here one more time, only cause the community should get behind it. DEVS can you guys change the regen for for all classes. If movement and health changes for all, then so should regen. Light should take the least time and HEAVY should take the most, with Medium in the middle. The current heavy regen time is perfect but i believe med and light regen time (the cooldown time between damage and regen start) should decrease to balance the lights. @boreal wagon yeah, if they want the game to die, they can continue down the path. my thought process goes, if you can run MMM and HHH but not LLL with a similar win rate, NOT PRO's, then the classes arent balanced

[quick coyote]

nah idk a good fight with a light, theyll regen in the chase before you can gun em. if youre playing light then its paramount to run and regen

also, with variable regen, healing gun will become so fckn meta

@quick coyote thats what sound cues are for. noises like footsteps are /loud/ in this game for a reason

if neither of you are moving, how are you fighting? did you take cover in the middle of the street

[lilac temple]

Rework recon

[quick coyote]

how do you counterplay recon with movement
say i am a light, and you are a medium recon user running revolver
you are hiding around a corner, i am invis. you see me coming via recon, and as i turn the corner you headshot into quick melee and i am dead with no counterplay as you knew where i was without anything i could've done about it
other than that, the movement in this game is pretty predictable compared to other shooters so tracking with FCAR or landing a shot or two with revolver is not a difficult feat

for medium, you cannot counter recon via aim as you lose the advantage of being able to peek from multiple angles to take advantage of bad crosshair placement, also nullifying your "just aim better" argument

the fact that recon is able to give you info of where everyone on the map is at any given time with no downsides or counterplay is absurd, and "just counter it" is not a reasonable argument

@quick coyote if the medium is standing perfectly still and making no footsteps, there is no way I, as a light, will be able to know they are there to onetap me knowing when i approach unless my team also has a medium recon that also comms where people are camping
i never mentioned neither of us moving, i was referring to a scenario where a medium is hiding around a corner and is able to know exactly when an invisible light will round the corner, leading to the light dying with no counterplay

atm the only counterplay to a recon player is another recon to hard focus the other recon, which means everyone is forced into running recon for it to have any semblence of a fair fight

as a medium player who runs tracking dart and revolver, it's insane enough to be able to onetap a light after hitting him with a dart and knowing where he is, even when invis. being able to have full map wallhacks at any given moment is even more insane

[gentle dome]

Remove the Recons that all countries want Send a defibrillator to Q

[hasty oriole]

Remove recon

[fierce flume]

tbh maybe replace recon with defib. make the defib timer a bit longer also then

[abstract wolf]

PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP

Please fix the q, cause no matter you playing solo, duo, trio as a console player we get fcked by pc player, the problem is i've already turned off the crossplay settings, and i never turn on that settings, please fix

[calm lily]

please fix recon before all my friends went to play Palworld

[quick coyote]

cant believe you just nerfed grapple and heavy just to buff recon shit again, big L embark

[floral pelican]

do throwing knives count has melee dmg to dailys

[boreal wagon]

do you think they want light to be viable in their game? they're balancing for quickplay instead of tournament.. they JUST hard nerfed light because they clearly dont want it in their game and didn't touch medium which is by far the strongest class

[manic aspen]

REMOVE RECON

[sudden tangle]

Shit meta, I quit.

[indigo condor]

[untold timber]

I'd really like a temp party system, so you can invite non-friends you meet in game to the next game without having to friend them.. ps nerf recon: i think it could be reworked to be more like sonar grenades, or we could have a radar jammer perhaps.. I don't like it at all either guys, i just dont think they will remove it 😦

[wind frost]

remove reckon i recon

[vast quail]

remove recon

[oblique mango]

I saw this clip where this guy using recon saw a team the second they spawned and then beamed them with his team through TREE's lmao REMOVE RECON @indigo osprey Dawg if the majority of the community doesn't like it its gotta go, i jumped to medium using recon senses and FCAR and abs murdered without trying @fossil walrus lmao exactly

[quick coyote]

I reckon embark should rework recon rather than remove

[indigo osprey]

THIS DUMB ASS SHIT AND PEOPLE BOOING ME CAUSE IM RIGHT YOU DOGSHIT PLAYERS WHO HAVE NO GAME SENSE AND MAKE DUMB SENARIOS THAT NEVER HAPPEN AND ARE RUINING THE GAME POTENTIALLY FOREVER

[unkempt basalt]

We are actually booing you because you’re loud and wrong. Hope this helps!

[quick coyote]

it's my fault if i am invisible, too far from anyone for them to hear me, and then i just get onetapped by someone who knew i was rounding the corner without any counterplay?

i see. thank you for your insight /s

[livid gate]

Remove EAC
Get actual AntiCheat

[fossil walrus]

Nah they should have somehow known that they were being seen off spawn. Just don't run in the open. Amirite?

[daring fossil]

please fix it so Respawn can be bound to spacebar even if spacebar is bound to something else. it doesn't conflict with anything because you're dead. I had to set it to enter which I have to push with my mouse hand, and there's lots of times I cant push it fast enough before the last team member dies

[calm lily]

Current Major Problems [Post Patch Notes 1.5.0 Update] (IMO):
-boring experience in ranked (MMM with recon everywhere), suggestion would be to prevent duplicate classes in ranked match if hard to balance (HML)
-remove/rework random events in ranked match, too RNG dependent (the dead go boom is the worst)
-dagger attack animation can just disappear when attacking, can't tell if you can hit the target
-unmentioned "nerf" to dagger's secondary attack is unnecessary (can't hold anymore)
-cash box can be stuck in the void and later disappear
-unbalanced matchmaking, weird matchmaking logic that possibly puts solo-queue player with lowest ranked/new players if hidden rating is high
-solo-queue players having to fight against pre-made teams
-unbalanced team wipe respawn locations
-no rewards to earn after finishing the battle pass and getting to max level (40)
-3000/3000 credits being useless after unlocking everything

repost for better reach

[quick coyote]

mostly valid but role-lock is what killed overwatch and complaining about 3 stacks existing is really weird

[livid oasis]

Can we get like a reduction of Las Vegas pick rate or maybe like a rework of it? It’s not fun to play not like the other maps

[indigo osprey]

ya your just dogshit this a team game stop doing dumb 1 v1s and share your rank cause I know you bronze lmao stop playing the game lil bro

[fierce flume]

THIS

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[short fossil]

idk why but when I get into a game my face-wear mask doesn't show up. It shows on the intro, victory, and selection screen, but in game just disappears for some reason. It's the butcher mask if that helps

[daring fossil]

dagger right-click has been animation based since release, not since 1.5 though.

[spice stag]

they got wallhacks as an ability fym "be unpredictable" they dont gotta predict fuckall they see your ass through the walls, you got to be a genuine kind of deluded to look at free wallhacks without any kind of skill to use and zero options for the person on the other end of the interaction besides "lol just play around them seeing you through walls" and try to say its not broken as shit. theres a reason every team in ranked rn runs recon out the ass

[reef tangle]

It would be great if the anti cheat could detect when a person is looking in one direction, but shooting in the oposite while carrying a cash box

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[reef siren]

Hmmm, could be effective.... "Maybe buff medium?" -Embark

[naive juniper]

or instead of removing recon, yall should just get better at the game

[wind frost]

he doesnt play ranked btw

[final shore]

https://tenor.com/view/bf4-caption-nikocado-avocado-recon-fan-gif-23935285

[sonic flare]

Recon can go tbh nobody uses that trash anyway

[indigo osprey]

if you dont play or are good at the game stop making suggestions

[boreal wagon]

you're an idiot? yeah let me just evade the 0.5second ttk prefire around every other corner because there's 7 legal wallhack users in the lobby! the balance in the finals is so good that every ranked lobby looks like this 8M 4H 0L great balance guys!!

lets just keep nerfing light though because it's too strong in bank it!

[smoky storm]

You're arguing with a 0.63 kdr player who has never stepped foot in ranked

[spice stag]

bait used to be believable, stay bronze

[dusk acorn]

ranked bank it

[tribal spoke]

Honestly a solo que ranked mode, would be nice, playing against premades is tough

[reef tangle]

Fun fact, all of the movement abilities are server side, so playing in AU where it forces me to play on +100ms that means if I press a movement ability I won't see it until that input reaches the server then it comes back...
Add human reaction time on to that and the TTK and light is literally unplayable in my country at a high level

There are ways thay can make light fairer without buffing - fixing this would be one

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[naive juniper]

stay silver

[final shore]

buff recon

[terse sluice]

Hey guys, can you please add mouse and keyboard support to this game for consoles. But make it so if someone is using a mouse and keyboard, on a console, it turns off aim assist.

I want to be able to play with people on PC but it's impossible to enjoy playing them without Mouse and Keyboard support

Other than that, great game 🙂

[daring fossil]

high ping and the terrible interpolation also means the players hitbox is like a foot behind him when he's running parallel to you. I can tell when im in a lobby with high ping players when playing medium with revolver because I simply can't hit those players.

[quick coyote]

Ayo, fellow brother

[drifting pawn]

PLEASE. ADD. A VOTE OPTION. TO FORFEIT. A TOURNAMENT. so that i can leave without a stupidass penalty when my other teammate drops out. i understand its still a loss. i shouldnt be forced to sit through a match when both teammates leave. give the leavers the penalty and let the remaining team vote to forfeit

ive come to realize this games 'competitive' mode isnt like most. your rank isnt in comparison to the other players but just a 'progress' level so to speak. not a fan. with how great and competitive this game is, anything other than a true competitive ranking system doesnt make sense. not sure why you thought to do it this way

[sudden spire]

why?

[bleak vector]

recon is ass

[lucid igloo]

There needs to be ranked based match making. I should not be playing with people in bronze and silver while in plat. Its not fair on either end. Going 0-7 because you get thrown in diamond lobbies as a bronze is dumb

[sage bison]

If u can't evade wall hacks as a light just get better scrubs. I do it every day when I play bank it. I have been playing this game for days know and fully understand it. Total play time: 20 hours, rank: bronze 4.

[rose slate]

3 mario jumps and they cant evade bullets. Laughable.

[ancient hare]

Removing the ability to toggle-off the recon ability would be a fair nerf for starters imo

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[bronze pumice]

nuke recon so hard it becomes a throw pick

[naive juniper]

buff recon

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[fossil walrus]

If this is true then it would make a lot of sense. The responses from them have been questionable

@terse sluice Also for whatever reason @bleak vector doesn't want you to be able to play mnk on console at all. Even if it's with forced crossplay. Very weird person

[daring fossil]

I mean, KDR doesn't mean much really. I have a terrible KDR because I play light and the game was riddled with cheaters (still is in ranked). I've also won matches with next to no kills on my team

[quick coyote]

reminder that one bullet of prefire wont make a difference in a team-push and every game where “wallhacks” are strong have a 1 shot time to kill! ❤️

[thorn lance]

youre dumb flare

[indigo condor]

bait lol

[plucky veldt]

Whose idea was it?
Patched the Recon?
You're so incompetent
finals is dying

[swift inlet]

We need proper kbm support for console controller feels so clunky and kbm support would be so nice for the game since other games like cod and fortnite allow it

[torn flame]

If the cash out is past the point of no return, just end the game. Why even let someone try to steal it if their not gonna make it? Either pause the timer, slow it down, reverse it, anything but how it currently is. Just lost a game by 0.1 seconds and its so frustrating to be teased like that, end the match 10 seconds eariler because all that teasing is not fun to make you think you still have a chance at a last chance steal.

[waxen granite]

Id rather have Acid thrown at my face then play a round with a recon user. Please remove and save your game.

[reef tangle]

No, but when I'm hiding to heal and someone slow walks up to me because they have walks
What was the counter play?
There is literally no run and heal option

[rose slate]

They just want to slander a young king. Don’t let them bring you down.

[oak lily]

turn down your graphics

[tough rock]

Relaxed jeans? Are you kidding me? 🤮 A military skin? And then when it’s not masculine leaning it’s several tutus? A wedding dress? 🤮 Can we get something with a little more nuance? Even if there were no sense of fashion, if it were at least more fun that would be enough. Why do the female skins have to be tacky or designed for children, the cosmetics are, save a few looks, a corny damn mess. My partner wants me to play with him but like, I can’t. The cosmetics are so fugly. 😭💀

[wintry frost]

The most distracting thing is effects tbh, I have lowered them to minimum and it's much better

[sage bison]

Wait why are you guys complaining about recon? Just dodge the bullets 4head

[bleak vector]

as someone who plays recon, I swear its overpowered

[bronze pumice]

u r sillyyyyyyyyy

[gloomy sapphire]

Remove stun gun in its entirety, it offers 0 counterplay for hammer heavies.

[desert moat]

I'd still suggest turning recon into those pulse type scan things.
Or like reveals your enemies last seen location like Titanfall 1's Pulse. Where it shows a silhouette and a skeleton and shows their last location in short intervals.

[plucky veldt]

They told to look forward to this patch
and I was surprised to see this trash balance patch
game name not the finals = the medium's esp game

[waxen granite]

Remove recon its for people who are ass at the game.

[daring fossil]

I can't tell you how many times I've been hiding on a random floor of a random building no one saw me retreat to, waiting for health to regen just to have a medium kool-aid man through a window, or run up 3 flights of stairs and run straight to me and blow my head off.

@ebon kiln I see people mentioning this all the time, I play maxed settings with DLAA (no upscaling) and I haven't even noticed it.

@wintry frost agreed, I'm wearing mostly CB 1 and 2 rewards because most of the clothes are meh, doesn't help that the characters are so androgynous looking too. Heaven forbid females look female in 2024!

[subtle tree]

added weight from breach charge/c4 on barrels is excessive

[indigo condor]

[quick coyote]

They even made mines even heavier than they were last time. They were already HEAVY but now they basically just don't move if you try to throw it.

[upper citrus]

remove recon

[hard ether]

Fighting invisible fucking enemies is the least fun thing anyone has ever come up with in a videogame and there is practically fuck all you can ever do to make the stealth skill something that anyone will ever enjoy playing against. It is actively anti-fun for everyone playing against it. You can nerf it into the fucking ground and it will still be un-fun to get fucking destroyed by some invisible little fucker every now and then. It does not matter how much you nerf this skill, it will always infuriate people on the receiving end of it because it fucking sucks fighting against anything invisible.

It doesn't matter whether it's once every 30 seconds or once every 5 fucking minutes that you get wrecked by an invisible cunt. It will still piss off the recipient.

[fossil walrus]

So what you're saying is remove recon and remove invisibility?

[cold pilot]

JUST DO SO

[long jacinth]

What to do if xbox reports error 0002

[thick edge]

what if I wanted just the FCAR from the urban operative set? If there isn't a way, can we buy individual parts of bundles?

[real marlin]

Make the sword do more damage

[quick coyote]

Buff recon, make light players seethe more.

[hard ether]

Yes actually I think that's a reasonable solution. One exists to counter the other but the real problem is that they both fucking suck. Recon is less suck because at least you can see the other enemy but it's very quickly come to dominate the entire game.

Recon currently needs to be practically permanent wallhacks because it's needed as a counter to the invisible cunt. But if you get rid of the invisible cunt then you can also make recon something that doesn't suck anymore, like more of a Apex Legends Bloodhound ping instead of always-on.

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[waxen granite]

Remove recon remove recon

[lapis acorn]

If you’re high elo invis isn’t the problem, even if recon is nerfed invis won’t be a problem. It’s soo loud and they got shot once they die.

[reef tangle]

Yeh, a lot of people would say Apex went down hill since it became scan legends, so I'm nevrous about any wallhack like abilities

[young minnow]

No clue i only want the skin and helmet

[quick coyote]

Lights would be more useful if they had a special that could disable aps and other gadgets without it getting eaten. Then they could actually work together as a team. Because glitch grenade just doesn't cut it. APS just devours it. I know Thermal vision can already see invisible lights if you play as a light. But there is no counter to recon.

[quick coyote]

If you're that bad you need an ESP to fight lights with invis, I think that says more about you than it does the game.

[rose surge]

My dude, cloak doesn't work if they're shooting you. This is a skill issue. Get good.

[thick turtle]

Hotfix disable FCAR and Recon untill you can finaly deal with them, each game is basically suffering because you have 6 mediums at the least each using the same weapon, its not playable

[upper citrus]

no offense but invis is very easy to see and hear. it’s the only specialty that requires your enemies to be bad to get value

[burnt dawn]

can we get custom games please

[twilit leaf]

gas mines should not pop if you break them that makes zero sense

[hard ether]

It's not a skill issue lmao. It doesn't matter if it fucking sucks or not you still get blown the fuck up by an invisible cunt every now and then and it's still utterly infuriating when it happens because there was fuck all you could do about it.

Everyone pretending this is not the case and that they never get killed unexpectedly by these little fucks is completely full of shit.

Not a dude either. Fucker.

[reef siren]

Custom games would be amazing for sure

[grizzled wyvern]

Restore aim assist, nerf turrets

[reef tangle]

Maybe you have a graphical bug, because if a light is moving towards me, I can see them easily if I'm paying attention
The harder part for me is that they have no footsteps, so behind is a problem

[timid reef]

Cloak is going to hold light back from being a good class. If the rest of lights kit was good cloak would make light broken. Cloak needs to be reworked or removed entirely. Also light should have a double jump similar to scout from TF2, would create more opportunities for skilled movement and would give lights a skill based way to stop people beaming them. (it could be a specialization even)

[lapis acorn]

We have all gotten killed by an invisible light. What usually happens is the teammate next to us just instantly rez and we spray the light down as he tries to run away and now it’s a 3v2

[spice sequoia]

they gonna do it,they kill already 50% of the player base xD

[gray marten]

Buff lights 🙏

[exotic fiber]

Suggestion: Remove recon completely, buff sonar nades. Replace recon with "combat fury". Increased movment speed, equipment use speed, reload speed, for a short time.

[unkempt basalt]

Stim would like a word

[thick tapir]

But most players are "bad' we always get lost in the fact that players that engage in discords, YouTube, twitter and all that are a minority and often the minority that are better at the game hence why they're more engaged in it.

But there is a large portion of those "bad' players in every game and everytime that there is invis inna game it will always cause balance problems that ripple throughout the game as it's a massive tuggle war between those "bad' players and good players and honestly I wish they just didnt put it in so they could avoid the headache all together, I mean it's just one of those cheesy abilities that only is good in lower ranks usually yet lower rank players hate it, yet it stays like a cancerous tumor on the game always causing toxicity.

[daring fossil]

unless they are your own mines, I use them to throw on ceilings and shoot to set them off to gas the people above

[grand belfry]

Skill issue

[floral hedge]

can we PLEASE put in countermeasures for deathmatch players?

[quick coyote]

Model barely doing any damage against a turret. So sad to see.

[proven pelican]

all yall whiners zip the lip and watch this clip

[rose surge]

That is not nice :(

And dude isn't really gendered. Just a way of saying "hey person" without sounding like a serial killer. Anyways, hope you have a nice day/night.

[quick coyote]

Bro left the server. 💀

[real marlin]

Annoyance=/=op

[finite stream]

Are you guys going to have 120fps on consoles

[daring fossil]

gotta do something better about cheaters and closet cheaters (it's pretty obvious when I die to nothing but headshots), between leavers and cheaters I probably have 100+ people blocked at this point.

@unkempt basalt the sound

[floral hedge]

this is a wild way to engage with someone. seek therapy

[unkempt basalt]

How do you know you’re dying to hs

[bronze pumice]

skill issue... do you not have eyes or something? 💀

[brave pollen]

it's obvious right when they see you and shoot, every bullet is a hs even at a 20M+ distance where normally that isn't possible to be that accurate

[vagrant raptor]

increase the recoil for lights guns or reduce the range before damage drop off happens.

[quick coyote]

[edgy herald]

All this chat has devolved into is people calling others problems skill issues while presenting their own skill issues on full display lol

[floral kindle]

I think the game could be more "intense" if lets say you get a kill with a rocket laucher or a mine. that kill should take like 5 secs off of the timer and the time it take for a teammate to respawn like rebirth/resplendence from cod. Idk just some ideas i thought of with my mates and could make the game more fun.

[unkempt basalt]

You guys should make a game mode where it’s 3v3 with revives. The goal is to eliminate the entire enemy team. There would be multiple rounds and maybe call it Trials of the Finals. Maybe even have a card that tracks wins and if you get seven wins in a row you get to go to mercury for a cashout

[rose robin]

Re-add mnk to console pls if PC can plug in controller I should be able to plug in a mouse and keyboard

[proven pelican]

please god put a fucking text chat in

[daring fossil]

if you didn't see my edit, the sound when getting hit by a headshot is different, more bassy? its pretty distinct anyways and obvious when you hear it 7 times in a row

[real marlin]

Ngl buff sword I only have a 4.2kdr wit it

[quick coyote]

The bro isn't even here in this server.

[bronze pumice]

what are you saying to me

[wide aspen]

@true epoch @rustic bloom Will anything ever be done about all of the cheaters plaguing this game?

[manic aspen]

dont nerf recon, remove it

[waxen granite]

Remove recon and buff land mines back to their original state

[plush hare]

This game match making is amazing it gives me bronze 2,4 rank teammates and my opponents gold 4 platinum 3 wow

[cunning kernel]

currently c4 + throwable is the dumbest fucking strat possible. even heavy can get 1 shotted immediately

[daring fossil]

it has a range of like 4 feet now, it got over-nerfed IMO. Heavies kill themselves more often than not now and the red canisters are more inaccurate than the RPG

[uneven prism]

PLEASE FIX THE CHEATER ISSUE OMGGGG EVERY 2 GAMESSS I AM SOOO DONE

[edgy herald]

Pretty much, but it wont happen, same with this remove recon movement.

People squawk about a problem until it gets nerfed just enough where its forgotten and talking about it becomes a skill issue, and 2 weeks from now recon will get nerfed and saying you hate recon will be another skill issue as everyone says the game will die because of this new terrible thing.

[manic aspen]

medium is dead if heavy with red can nuke looks at him

[subtle barn]

Does someone have C4 lost bug ? I deployed it on barrels and it lost to the ground, detonate doesn't work as well

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[wide aspen]

And add real anti cheat measures

[quick coyote]

Mines got even more nerfed. Throw some on a canister and see how it goes nowhere.

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E F K N W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[sage bison]

Remove recon and replace it with a toggleable aim hack. I can't hit these broken lights dashing a million times one shooting me with the throwing knives. It's not fair.

[daring fossil]

mines were always heavy on cans

[spark oak]

pls remove las vegas from this game

[livid oasis]

For turrets and defibs (two of the most annoying gadgets in the game)

Turrets: change from 360 degrees to 180 degrees as to make people think more of their turret placement.

Defibs: make them a specialization so people have to choose between healing beam or defibrillator this I think would balance out pretty much everything regarding them

[gray marten]

Can we add the ability for console players to use mnk but remove aim assist if they do? Vice versa with pc players (if that’s not already a function)

[proven pelican]

give every default skin in the game a 'finals-less' option to make it look cleaner

[quick coyote]

Yes I think that’s a good idea it would balance pretty much everything regarding those and make it so the classes don’t need to be limited as well so those who like to run 3 mediums can do so

[quick coyote]

No shit. I already know they were heavy. But they didn't need to nerf it even more. It was already heavy but they made it even more heavier with the patch. And it's not like many people were using it so nerfing it even more than it was already nerfed makes no sense. It's not like you can manually detonate it either so it's not even as powerful as the c4 or breach charge.

[wide aspen]

your game has so much diversity in its current state, jeez, i wonder if there is something you could remove to improve it.

[grim cloud]

a 6v6 would hit different in the finals

[fickle phoenix]

Just spent the last half hour fighting 3 teams using recon, stun guns, double barrels and I officially uninstalled. The game is way too unbalanced. And putting literal wall hacks in a game is so stupid. Not gonna miss it

[indigo osprey]

you're just ass

[robust nebula]

boo hoo ;_; wahhhh

[brave plover]

Fix RAW Input mouse bug and the light MPs please …

[dense marlin]

Change how deadzone works on controller

[quick coyote]

Why is there no settings for both a radial and axial deadzone?

[daring fossil]

I just played a game where literally EVERYTHING happening was delayed. The cashout timer went beyond the actual visual timer EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. and then would give the cashout to the team before the cashout would even disappear. We just lost a match because of this because it looks like we had the cashout, but the timer bar filled up and they just kept stealing.

Also fix the fucking terrible interpolation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maj1gScmuyg

[placid valley]

Buff fcar

[indigo osprey]

that was just a shit fight lmao he shot you first

[manic aspen]

optimize the game more so that this game is accessible to more players

[daring fossil]

bruh if you don't know what interpolation is, don't comment. im not complaining that I lost the fight, although it was kinda bullshit. He's literally facing away from me for the entire fight.

[edgy herald]

Add a seige mode of some kind, but implement the destruction.

Maybe the payload can be blown up onna bridge which sets you back, adding risk to if you wanna push it during a team fight or not, or maybe taking a route through a building without the building being blown up saves time but if it does get toppled than it sets you back.

The game has the set up for a tf2 like experience, and I see lots of people asking for more gamemode so maybe it's worth a thought.

[bronze pumice]

nuke recon pls

[quick coyote]

a suggestment of attachments and more abilities and gadgets for other classes like for ability for heavy you can lift a house or something like that and release like snd gamemode

[small wren]

Bring back keyboard and mouse on console with input based matchmaking

[quick coyote]

turrents 120 degrees already, you can perma block or one tap turret with any carriable or goo gun/nade/barrel

[woeful juniper]

My game keeps closing after each match ends, and on every first matchmake I get booted from the server, lmao

[sonic spoke]

i really want to see my blocked list... lol
Flag anyone on more than 50 block lists

[cunning dagger]

Remove Ls from matchmaking, add more team player types

[plush hare]

In ranked I got bronze 4 and unraked player in my team (I ma gold 4 )

[bronze pumice]

dont solo queue ranked

[reef tangle]

NGL as a turret user I'd actually like this, I hate when my turret ends up facing the wrong way - also means there is more skill in turret placement and use

@quick coyote from memory it only sweeps like 120deg, but if it's tracking a player I've had them end up facing backwards (maybe it's just bugged sometimes idk)

[rancid dagger]

Grenade indicator

[quick coyote]

Why people still able to use rewasd aimbot after 2 ugly security patches? have you forgot something? you told us you fixed the problem, why 37 000 active player using aimbot and wallhack cheats still not banned? its more than 30% of the playerbase lmao
BTW how is that happened that whole chineese server have debug cheat that allowes to killl players with a command in the console and noclip/spawn stuff and since closed beta none of them got banned? WHY All THE STRING LEADS TO THE CODE YOU SOLD RECENTLY TO CHEAT MAKERS?
you embark is bigges L in the whole gaming world, and in your case L is exactly CAPITAL
also never seen light/heavy players since you nerfed every single gun and ability except fcar, defib and recon, you BUFFED it, brainrot moment

[unborn elbow]

Please enhance CL 40 damage on objects, 6-8 shots to destroy a wall or concrete is too much

[placid valley]

Someone tells the balance team, I have lung cancer, the last will is playing a everlasting recon and 30 bullets Fcar to eliminate lights.

[cold pilot]

Someone tells the balance team, I have covid cancer, the last will is playing a everlasting recon and 30 bullets Fcar to eliminate lights.

[bleak coral]

Someone tells the balance team, I have mild cancer, the last will is playing a everlasting recon and 30 bullets Fcar to eliminate lights.

[narrow parrot]

Someone tell the balance team, I ate cancer yesterday, the last will (of the crab) is playing a everlasting recon and 30 bullets Fcar to eliminate lights.

[rancid dagger]

Grande indicator and/or split screen would be very good additions

[molten trail]

just in a day btw, every day people like recon less and less as the meta develops. Notice how most posts aren't saying "nerf recon", they're saying remove recon because it is that broken and something simple number adjustments couldn't fix. Make it pulse and do x and y but it's still a wallhack in the end.

[noble nimbus]

Someone tell the balance team, I saw cancer tomorrow, the first will (of the frog) is playing neverlasting fcar and 40 bullets to recon to eliminate knights

[pure bluff]

NERF RIOT SHEILD

[blissful vector]

shoot their feet or throw a grenade behind them tho

[lapis pollen]

Tell me you buff the dagger, or I will wait until it happens

[rancid dagger]

Cloak should be shorter but make you completely invisible (also silence footsteps) or make the time longer with higher visibility

[thin hinge]

Nerf nuke.
Also, no need to remove recon. Recon just needs slightly adjustments and its fine. You could just change the radius of it and I believe it will be more balanced.

[sage sapphire]

Some things that I'd like to see hopefully in the future~
-Comms, the comms wheel should be customizable to allow those without mics, who are unable to talk, or those who don't wish to speak, the ability to communicate with their team effectively while still being engaged. Things like "I'm sorry" , "group up" (instead of huddle lol) , "Go for the revive" (instead of yourself), "Fall back", "Need healing" (I know "I need help" exists, but healing would be a nice option), Compliments ("Nice Job!", "Great Work", "You Rock!")
Just so we can effectively communicate even if its not all tactical.
-More achievements would be cool. A few creative ones to keep people who are at the cap occupied.
-More unlocks for leveling equipment, the colors are nice but getting more charms and stuff, you should be able to place stickers and charms on barricades and APS.
-Turret reactivity, I feel that turrets could do with a blindspot or a slight reduction on how far they can turn. Once a turret is shot at, it rotates all the way around and tracks just as easily beyond that point. In introducing something like this, it will require a little more thought when placing them instead of placing them in a panic.
-We need more drip (tattoos, shoes, facial hair, wristwear)
-Crowd chants and banners for teams, seeing "fans" come out to support their favorite teams would be really cool. Looking into the giant halo ring and seeing your teams name or maybe even the names of a few players would really sell the immersion.
-More "sponsored gear" the Holtow smg is really cool, seeing more items like that would be cool.
-Class strength scaling, everyone can pick up mostly the same items, but i believe that the bigger you are, the larger the item you should be able to throw.
Ex: Heavies can pick up pieces of chunks rubble/debris, dumpsters, big box planters, tree chunks. Mediums can pick up smaller pieces of rubble, a few tables, splintered wood, vases, etc. . Light can pick up planters, chairs, buckets, waste bins, etc.

[quick coyote]

Good morning Embark, remove defib and recon asap

[placid valley]

Good morning Embark, buff defib and recon asap. don't forget Fcar. I need to kill all of the lights

[small wren]

Good morning embark, bring back keyboard and mouse to console with input based matchmaking

[noble nimbus]

Good morning Embark, buff nukes, make defib invincibility longer. Stun gun needs buffing to 10 seconds. Don't forget double barrel, I need to 2 shot heavys

[loud vale]

revert the cloaking changes and make the knife base dmg more bc i have to hit em 3-4 time with a backstab sometimes and the backstab itself is bad if u dont hit it just right it wont even hit plus some can just turn around bc they can hear u like pls guys let use are brains a bit

[reef tangle]

It would be interesting if they tried stealing parts from Crysis
It takes a bit more time for you to go in and out of cloak, but if you shoot during transition (or cloaked) it kicks you fully out and drains your charge completely (likewise if you get damaged) - but you are 100% invisible while active.

Or at least some experimentation, because the state it's currently in is a bit icky.

Also I think defib shouldn't spawn players with as much health.

[neat siren]

It's already 8 days since AA nerfs, what do roller bros on PC opinion on these change so far? Just curious ofc, I think it's great.

[rancid dagger]

That sounds perfect actually

[sudden marlin]

Its balanced

[pulsar flower]

Invis seems fine as it is right now

[delicate yarrow]

boohoo

[quick coyote]

lmao, they where able to track invis players so i think they’re still pissed

[cunning dagger]

Final round isn't much fun after all those back to back chaos rounds

[junior arrow]

yeah true

[quick coyote]

Remove Recon.

[raven talon]

need better crossair customisation

[wide aspen]

Awesome anti-cheat software you guys are using

[icy aspen]

Is controller AA not still bugged?

[worthy helm]

REMOVE RECON

for the comment below, THERE IS NO COUNTER TO WALLHACK
"uuh but maybe if we give everyone aimbot to counter the wallhacks" 👏🏻

[lime fable]

I love how everyone is demanding items to be nerfed or removed but no one thinking about what could be buffed to counter act, shame this game will lose the majority of its player base. Would have been cool if each class had something going for them but i can already see where this game is headed

[rancid dagger]

More so for melee builds

[pulsar flower]

nigh permanent wallhacks should absolutely never be the standard

[earnest ermine]

Buff the Heavy's grenade launcher's damage like holy shit that thing is so bad

And while on the subject, make both grenade launchers do structure damage, it makes.no.sense why a 40mml grenade shouldn't tear a hole through drywall

[livid heron]

Someday we need a big QOL update, I'm talking equip to all contestants/guns buttons on accessories, a friend list that shows last online and account level, an in game text chat or even in lobby one to communicate with your region, a DP shot and DP second reading on gun stats, etc

[placid valley]

You lost your life since you played the game. Buff recon

[cunning dagger]

Remove L class
They are the dumbest class in the entire game and no one wants to be matched alongside them, they never fuckin listen and always die

[forest creek]

Light need buffs

[opaque oyster]

just remove dead go boom event, its ruining the melee class. i nearly team wiped a whole squad and won the game with sword and that mf i just dropped blew me up to the sky with that deathrattle shit.

[quick coyote]

It is still bugged.

Why people still able to use rewasd aimbot after 2 ugly security patches? have you forgot something? you told us you fixed the problem, why 37 000 active player using aimbot and wallhack cheats still not banned? its more than 30% of the playerbase lmao
BTW how is that happened that whole chineese server have debug cheat that allowes to killl players with a command in the console and noclip/spawn stuff and since closed beta none of them got banned? WHY All THE STRING LEADS TO THE CODE YOU SOLD RECENTLY TO CHEAT MAKERS?
you embark is bigges L in the whole gaming world, and in your case L is exactly CAPITAL
also never seen light/heavy players since you nerfed every single gun and ability except fcar, defib and recon, you BUFFED it, brainrot moment

[uncut pier]

Big claims but no sources. Could you elaborate and give us your sources?

[queen ocean]

Embark, I dont know what you did exactly to the performance and to your servers, but playing on the Asian servers since 1.5, I noticed the latency has improved alooot. I always used to have the minimum white to red "ping" alert, but more often its completely gone.

[wide aspen]

Bro who cares about REWASD with this in the game:

[violet elbow]

The 1887 shouldnt punish you for reloading early, the reloading of the first round in all non-empty reload animations makes the reload really slow in fights where it matters, its the only weapon to actively punish you for reloading early while every other gun rewards you with a tactical reload (no rechambering a round)

[neat siren]

Not to my knowledge, what makes you think it's bugged?

[molten trail]

remove recon

[clever gorge]

Agreed way too OP

[cunning dagger]

There are just excuses, they never use their brain, a team was guarding a site which was in center and i pinged alot of times to go to other site but he never listened and guess what, he lost us a match we were easily winning

[forest creek]

Ye remove light coz pankhil get bad team8

[delicate notch]

I agree, especially in Ranked. You can’t switch to a different weapon to avoid DGB. It’s a miserable experience. I enjoy Melee weapons a lot, I don’t think an event like this invalidating them is fun. Just my opinion.

[round axle]

Ngl bro clipped you

[clever gorge]

Bro was cheating 💀💀💀

[velvet lantern]

Is this bug going to be fixed someday?
https://i.imgur.com/7XZgjm2.jpg
The one when you can equip multiple weapons skins and being unable to play with that loadout. I'm tired of redoing loadout :/

[quick coyote]

ye, there is more, none of them got banned so far, and moders banning everyone who will report chineese players for racism

[granite lava]

We're gonna need South African servers. Game is unplayable for many players

[foggy ginkgo]

Bad at the game

[split sluice]

Anyone know how to fix this problem, the finals is only 2% of my gpu

[round axle]

bro aim is on point

[violet elbow]

how does someone good at the game counter Wallhacks again 💀

[quick coyote]

with wallhack

[placid valley]

I know a guy using full time wallhack, but he is running medium. Nobody thinks his a real hacker 🤣

[wide aspen]

Ran into that today, guys name was Chief. Monaco blasting me through the tree line I'm like when does this guys recon run out. Then I saw him heal beaming someone. Fuckin loser.

[sage solar]

He must have at least 2000 hours in Kovaaks

[carmine ginkgo]

recon just needs to be changed to only show snapshots of enemy position much like the sonar grenade then it’ll be balanced imo

[ruby kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGvJC7wsUw8 if this is a bug fix it asap

[foggy ginkgo]

We complain about recon then if people start spamming recon nades everygame are we gonna cry about that too

[lofty berry]

I really wish it was easier to unlock all the weapons. I find myself not wanting to experiment because it'd be better to use my VP on the meta.

[hard wasp]

Remove recon from the game and swap it with defib.
This will get rid of the wallhack as well as balancing the issues with defib right now and medium as a whole. No one likes a 3x medium team who just rezes non stop and you cannot have any down time in fights, and if they choose the supposed defib ability, fine, they lack heals or turrets.

[deft moth]

Please consider making low gravity NOT AFFECT MGL32 grenade launcher projectiles

[gleaming summit]

this is not a bug, its a cheater

[opaque patio]

a grenade that affects a small radius =/ walls with infinite range which you can have up most of the time during fights

[green bison]

not sure if it's just me, but it should feel a little more rewarding to get a kill or get a team wipe, it kinda just feels bland as if it's the same as vaulting over an obstacle

[midnight kiln]

I think people dont see, that the balance was never really the problem, it was the mistake to add these things to the game, as they are almost impossible to balance due to them having vastly different impact on different levels of skill.

[foggy ginkgo]

Not trynna hear it just dont be dog water all yall complaining are simply BAD. 0 anticipation skills 0 awareness. 💩 on mediums with recon consistently on different classes yall are just dogwater

[blissful bridge]

Role Lock Ranked

This will stop the spamming of stacked meta loadouts which will balance out ranked while leaving casual mode and equipment alone.

Let's keep ranked competitive, but let's also keep casual chaotic and fun.

[naive apex]

alright until audio is fixed on console im done playing, fuck this game, its a headache for other console players as well

[opaque patio]

calling people trash when u have that gameplay on your channel is crazy. and you use fcar defib and recon no wonder youre insulting everyone you see complain about those

[cold pilot]

another weekend, another cheaters 💀
not that rude but still got powerful in game
upgrade your EAC plz

[proud ocean]

People have to find the cause for them to loose. 🙂

[foggy ginkgo]

The fact that ur using a video from a MONTH ago when the game dropped lmao tells me how sad and garbage ur life is bud get better ❤️‍🩹

[velvet moth]

Arguing and calling people trash, sad, garbage, over a video game woooow. And recon senses is broken, it needs to go or reworked somehow.

[quick coyote]

The level of projection here is insane. You don't argue, it's just insults.
We're not the sad ones lmao.

[sage sapphire]

KAIJU MODE! We need a 1 v all mode where one gargantuan contestant is let loose in the arena but only has a hammer with slower swings. Essentially AOT in a lobby, a bunch of lights swinging around, jump pads, the whole deal. With how movement heavy and destruction based this game is I feel like it'd be cool lowkey with all the explosions and stuff. Kaiju wins if they destroy the entire map, and the defenders win if they defeat the Kaiju
( I understand asymmetrical gameplay can be a bit difficult to implement but in a virtual environment such as The Finals, its not out of the realm of reality!)

[opaque patio]

making your gameplay public and getting upset when someone judges your skill from it doesnt make sense to me but youre right im sad cause i can type a name in on google. also id love to see your imporvement

[tawny oak]

Improve the servers, update sucks and so do the servers, make them consistent with damage and actual hit registration, why am i around corners and STILL taking damage, why am I 10m away from someone and STILL taking sword/melee damage, like what the fuck is going on with your game?

[pliant yoke]

It would be nice if there was a seperate store for excess vr points, even if it's just a bunch of recolours or seperate skins

[neat siren]

I hope the problem with cheaters will get address soon

[south sedge]

I see everyone talking about Recon, but no one is talking about cheaters and the ranking system.

In fact, cheaters are ruining the game, since launch, I met cheaters daily, they were never banned, I wrote their names to report them in the ticket, I search for them every 2-3 days, and they still up in the leaderboard, besides, I reported a cheater a week ago, and I met him today twice, it's not even a new account or something, he has a battle pass with full tiers, and he even bought things from the store, he seems sure that he won't be banned, that's why he's paying on this account, and people who play with him should also be banned, it's been a while and we just heard there was a security update, but we never saw anything.

When it comes to rankings, the ranking system is terrible, I'm a gold player, I play with the top 100 players on the leaderboard, and bronze which makes the game really unfair for a lot of people, we should queue with people who have fame points close to you, but why do I end up playing against someone in the top 200 on the leaderboard, when I have a bronze on my team who doesn't have enough knowledge to play against? I'm a gold player, and I don't have much knowledge to end up against the top 200 players on the leaderboard, the game is really good, but it's getting boring day by day with these two problems.

The game I joined either has hackers or people on the leaderboard making the game extremely difficult just to survive in a fight, please, look into the ranked system and anti-cheat before it's too late.

Recon is really OP and I'm not going to lie, I use it all the time, but you can still play your game, but those two points above ruin the whole game, it's system issues.

I didn't actually see the channel, looks like y'all were talking about cheaters before, my bad.

[golden iron]

Is it me but that model shotgun needs a nerf?

[deft moth]

"No one is talking about cheaters and ranking system", uh, pretty sure EVERYBODY already talked about it

[rough ember]

nice

[granite lava]

I think gas shouldn't start at full damage. It should start low and ramp up the longer you are in it. Enough to defend a position but not enough to kill people who just touch the barrier or are actually trying to escape the gass. Also South Africa needs Servers. You skipped an entire continent

[sage sapphire]

Oil drums, or something similar to the goo gun would definitely make fire a little more viable, given that fire doesn't really spread much (indoors). People probably wouldn't be too keen on it taking an equipment spot unless it. It would do some good to implement a form of water barrels or something to counteract it.
Smoke canisters are good for putting out some fires, but it wouldn't do anything about the oil.
This damn game is like elemental rock, paper, scissors sometimes lmao

[quick coyote]

Bronze should fight bronze silvers should fight silvers gold should fight golds plats should fight plats diamonds should fight diamond. What is the poop raking system

[feral canopy]

Does anyone know if blocking players means you won't go into future lobbies with them? If so that might be a good way for people to not get into lobbies with cheaters tthey come across in future matches. If enough people block cheaters they'll just end up in lobbies with themselves

[foggy ginkgo]

bud its sad because you really took time to go to yt and do it😂 and ur judging my skill off of the first few days of the game being out so kinda useless information . and Cuz im tired of hearing yall cry and moan everyday about recon when theirs 15 other things that need addressed yall are bad its okay just keep sippin the copium juice and cry yall are DOG WATER😂 its insane😭 just continue to be sht and cry🫡

[stone crown]

Suggestion: Text Chat

Press "Enter" to open chat window. Press "T" for team chat or "G" for global chat. Thanks. Have a nice day 🙂

[foggy island]

this might be a bit random but the glitch grenade should definetly get a buff, like fully glitch the oponents screen or smthn

[proper quarry]

Stream sniping would be a big problem

[fathom gale]

Remove recon

[soft gorge]

Please Embark, add MKB support on consoles and input based matchmaking!

[topaz barn]

Nah, I think recon can be tuned to be a lot more balanced than what it is now.

Give it 3 charges, when activated pings the location of enemies for you and your team once per activation. Range reduced to 100m

[opaque patio]

It takes a couple seconds to search something again idk if you realize. Also it's an fps game skill easily transfers so it's not hard to not have garbage aim on release (like you). idk why ur upset over people leaving their feedback on recon in the feedback channel there are lots of problems but clearly recon is a big one. just cause u abuse recon and defib doesnt mean it's less important. u also love insulting people if you wanna 1v1 on smth and prove im trash tell me

[green bison]

recon either needs a massive nerf or just needs to be removed and replaced or reworked

[hexed frigate]

Can you guys relook aim assist again? I feel as though it’s nerfed to a point it’s unfair to console players. I am forced to turn on cross play as I’m not able to get into any games. Plus I feel pc players are dominating the game because of their ability to control the recoil with ease. (3rd game cueing up for 5mins+ and matchmaking failed with cross play turned off)

[pseudo briar]

just make recon like apex bloodhound

[manic aspen]

got chinese hackers 3 times in a row in 1st round of tournamen, ggs

[torpid plinth]

nobody cares about recon grenades, they're not MAP WIDE FUCKING WALLHACKS are you STEWPID?

[indigo jolt]

On that note mayhaps the ability to completely turn it off could be the best solution

[foggy ginkgo]

But i dont abuse recon ur just assuming that off of one video you searched up on yt🤣🤣 i havent run medium since release bud try again😂 and everyone who continues to cry is still just bad wont change my mind yall are all 💩and @torpid plinth and stfu you trashcan you definitely suck by ur name alone meat licker

[smoky storm]

M8 got mad cus someone looked up his gameplay, which is his handle, and realized he sucks. What do you think lmao.

I use recon/defib as well, I want recon deleted from the game and defib reworked/nerfed so the rez doesn't block bullets and the charge gets canceled on taking dmg. Recon especially is the most broken ability introduced in any fps game in history.

[opaque patio]

all those insults and words just to say nothing lmfao. if you haven't played medium since release i don't understand how you can really have an educated opinion on it either. 1v1 still open btw but if you'd just like to keep calling me mean names then that works to

[stone crown]

Suggestion:

Please give the option to forfeit the match, with no loss to FP, in ranked tournament if your playing on a team that is not full (i.e. 1 player disconnected or the server had an issue).

[small wren]

This wouldn't work coz there is meant to be 4 teams for a reason. It would be messed with 3 teams and 2 cashouta

[sleek delta]

Suggestion for light changes:

LH1:
needs lot less recoil. its almost impossible to hit anything how it is now.
1-2x scope would be also nice.

grappling hook:
needs 2 charges to make it more viable

dagger:
only footstep sounds while invis? that way it would be possible to get behind people.

Glitch grenades:
bigger AOE to the blast. currently they are kinda hard to hit/get full potential out of them.

motion sensor:
bigger ping radius and it should show people longer than now

[slim karma]

Seoul (Under Construction) feels like it should be the default map layout, it just plays so much nicer and it's easier to move around the map.

[hard wasp]

less than 9% of the playerbase as per the leaderboards play on console. This is not a console game. Devs should elimite aim assist entirely as Blizzard did in OW.

[foggy ginkgo]

So i dont have an opinion because i dont play medium….. that makes no sense you sound dumb asf i still have to play against medium/recon you goofball😂😂😂😂 the copium is crazy you sippin ts heavy asl🫗

[sudden marlin]

why should they remove aim assist if they don't dominate, it bothers you? are you afraid?

[hot flower]

can we get an actual tdm gamemode, or even a round based elimination gamemode with whatever objective (tdm or cashout) like search & destroy on cod. i'd play the fuck out of those icl

[manic aspen]

Asia servers are not playable without a hacker every match (good job fucking devs)

[sterile jetty]

Hey, there might be a glitch you wanna check out, i cant get my PC to record for the life of me but if you use cloaking device and the server lags (pretty normal sadly) it will make you permanently invisible until the end of the match. Even if you shoot things

[opaque patio]

again resorting to insults and not backing anything up lmao. and yeah it would help you understand recon more if you actually played it idk how you don't understand that

[solemn linden]

I hope there will be any kind of matchmaking update for ranked. I dont want to play against top500 players, while getting silver teammates myself (im plat)

[valid night]

remove recon replace with defib. roll back lh1 to OB version

[stone crown]

1. It wouldn't be messed with at all. The game would function just fine.
2. You're missing the point. It's unfair for 2 people to, essentially, be forced to lose FP.

[tough topaz]

bring back mouse and keyboard support on consoles!

[quick coyote]

bring back kbm on console controller is too easy

[cinder frost]

Still can't join a ****** group 😁 is that normal 😃?

[placid valley]

When will we remove fking lights from the game. They never offend or defend anything, just fking keep shooting and throw games. Not Even fun when they on the other team. They just randomly assault the other team and help the rest team win. Fking trash balance.

[random scarab]

add a bow or something it would be cool and make the dash momentum based that would also be cool

[brave quarry]

bro just wants hanzo in the game

[foggy ginkgo]

Just continue to cry. Im Having no issue against recon even with multi M teams. Obviously your just bad its that simple. Have a good day shttr 🫡

[reef galleon]

Toxicity, by definition, is harmful and damaging. It can have negative consequences for individuals, relationships, communities, and even the environment. Therefore, promoting or advocating for toxicity, even in hypothetical scenarios, can be misleading and potentially harmful.

Instead, I'd be happy to explore the complexities of the word "toxic" and how it can be used in different contexts. For example, we could discuss:

The nuanced meanings of "toxic": It can refer to something physically poisonous, harmful behavior, or negative attitudes. Different contexts can change the meaning and impact of the word.
The potential for positive change: Even though "toxic" generally has negative connotations, it can sometimes be used as a catalyst for positive change. For example, recognizing a toxic relationship can be the first step towards healing and building healthier relationships.
Exploring alternative perspectives: Different individuals or groups may have different perspectives on what constitutes "toxic" behavior. Examining these diverse viewpoints can be valuable for understanding the complexity of the issue.

If you're interested in exploring these topics further, I'd be happy to provide you with more information and resources. However, I would strongly advise against framing "toxic" as a inherently good thing. Remember, promoting toxicity can have real-world consequences for people and the environment.

I hope you understand my position on this matter. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions 🤡 🫵

[finite dew]

obviously satire, but it is hella annoying having to sweat as a heavy to beat triple recon med. like 3 recon in last round on construction is so overpowered it’s crazy

[woven briar]

Is there anything on mouse and keyboard on console being brought back and fully supported? I get it would take time to fix how it would change matchmaking. I don’t mind being put up against other m&k or pc players. I just want to have fun in the game again. Controller is not fun. The controls are wonky and after a few games, hands be hurting.

[queen rover]

Looking forward to a new balance patch in a month

[opaque patio]

okay im glad your lobbies are full of people who are your skill level and can't capitalize off of walls, but if you look at any ranked lobby there are going to be a ridiculous amount of mediums and lots of triple medium teams. to ignore the pick rate of medium and say the class is fine is just ignorant

[manic aspen]

I GOT PLACED AGAINST THE SAME CHEATER IN 3 TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW LIKE WTF

[quick coyote]

cheaters again & again.... pls Embark ban them when we report 😴 we just want stop play your game when u don t do your minimum work , not easy to counter cheaters & make the better anti cheat but just PLS ban the players reported

[placid valley]

Embark, can you please fire your balance team? they are ruining the game for sure. I don't even know if they really play the game lol. fking medium has been the strongest class since the game launched. I don't can find out any reason that allowed it not being nerfed this time. Brain dead team. 🧠 🧠 🧠

[proud ocean]

Even if I agree that some abilities needs a bit of adjustment (Nothing that broken like some people say…recon and revive for example) and not considering known bugs (crossplay) already being resolved, I think that with the latest hot fix 1.5.1 the game is in a good state. I’m having lot of fun and the gameplay still feel something fresh and gift players who look for fun with epic moments, especially if played with friends!

[somber inlet]

Remove Recon

[full thistle]

I really like maps in this game and I would love to see maps that have the theme of nature. More trees more greenery maybe some treehouses we can climb on? Every map now have a lot of buildings and having a different map would a fresh, interesting take and would be fun for sure

[primal vault]

Dead game

[hard wasp]

Light needs an hp buff. On most of these maps where you end up fighting close quarter, or trying to 1v1 someone, you are doomed to lose. 150 is just way too little. Needs extra 50 to be viable. No one wants a light in their team, no is looking for one on LFG, and the best lights in the world say the same thing.

[olive epoch]

How long it takes to fix crossplay?

[dull hemlock]

Light needs a fix to the servers/better tick rate. A huge part of light being murdered is the fact that people can continue to delete you even after you dash/nyoom away due to the game registering hits on their end. Nothing says fun like dying to the player across the world with 350 ping on top of the servers being shoddy after you've dashed and have been behind a wall for a full second.

[brave quarry]

Feedback:
General:

• When a player is eliminated, their gadgets are also removed (turrets, mines etc)
• Remove "dead go boom" game mode - invalidates running any melee/close quarter weapons

Medium:
There needs to be some outplay potential for recon, ie. crouching makes you not able to be seen on the recon

• This still gives the ability of recon to see where players are coming from as they run towards the objective but also gives opponents an opportunity to outplay the recon ability
  or it could be something similar to cypher (Valorant) where when the recon ability is used it pings the locations of opponents for half a second (would have to be balanced with 3 cycles similar to dash)
  Remove defib invulnerability

Heavy:
Flamethrower buff was unnecessary, roll back the buff damage from 30 back to 28

Light:
Nerf shotgun

• increase reload time
  Faster health regen
• They will still be squishy but this gives them more of an opportunity to flank and get back in the fight faster instead of hindering the team
  Faster Gadget regen for all gadgets except:
• Stun gun
• Glitch nade
• Vanishing bomb
  This gives light players a reason to chose other gadgets instead of having to only play with these to be viable
  The general nerfs to gadgets also give light players a little more breathing room instead of stepping on a mine of a player they have defeated and being useless to their team again

I would also like to see some data from comp in the middle and end of each season:

• Class win rate
• Weapons/gadgets chosen etc

I like the game and the devs have made good balance changes so far (I was surprised and happy with the AA changes) and I believe they are on the right track

[small wren]

Change the game to input based matchmaking instead of platform based matchmaking so then you will be able to use keyboard and mouse on console

[reef galleon]

Light needs an hp buff. On most of these maps where you end up fighting close quarter, or trying to 1v1 someone, you are doomed to lose. 150 is just way too little. Needs extra 50 to be viable. No one wants a light in their team, no is looking for one on LFG, and the best lights in the world say the same thing.🤓 🤡 🫵

[bleak vector]

remove recon senses/wall hacks

[placid valley]

imo:
simply nerf the game.

[fierce flume]

the point of a light player is to be skillful enough to avoid dmg and kill first. they are a glass cannon. this is literally a skill issue.

[manic aspen]

cheaters are already nerfing the game

[sage bison]

Ur a clown if you think recon needs removed, light is super op right now it needs nerfed. invis and double barrel is so broken!! I keep getting one shot because my wall hack run out and they kill me so fast. Please embark nerf light, it is too tanky right now, give it maybe 100 hp and buff wall hak duration to at least a minute. Thanks you this will help me so much in my bronze games 🙏

[limpid basin]

Or possibly just get better, why are you trying to use mnk on console? For easy kills? Go to pc

[nimble steppe]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

[midnight wing]

Please use punctuation and proper spelling if ur gonna rant😭

[quick coyote]

Saying "since PC can use a controller" is just not a good argument. You're actively putting yourself at a disadvantage on PC with a controller, there's no benefit at all and you actively hinder your aim. Switching to mnk on console puts you at a massive advantage to other players who are majority controller players. PC is majority mnk players. Just not comparable.

[remote scroll]

please add the missions while pausing in-game

[small wren]

I'm sorry bro but I don't think u got the point. It won't be easy kills if the people who I am against are also playing on mnk but not controller. The reason is coz I can't actually afford a pc so.. @limpid basin

[cunning stag]

Hi devs, if you won't add MnK support back on console, please just let us know so the ones waiting for it can uninstall, thanks.

[placid valley]

Hold on, the devs are still enjoy wallhacks in APEX. They will reply you after that.

[reef galleon]

xd

[hard wasp]

Skill issue, then why do the best lights in the world make this statement? There are various youtubers you can check from Lyric to Piggyxd, people who got at the top and can barely play their class. There is no skill issue here.
Everything and anything will kill you in a split second. There is no way to avoid damage because Recon exists. I got chased in this last game for literally 1 minute. I juked, parkoured and vaulted my way out of farm constantly and I would've definitely escaped if not for the mongoloid behind me spamming recon. I was hearing the dumbass sound that I am utterly sick to my stomach of.

There are fights like monaco houses for example, where movement means nothing. I even dashed out of windows and dashed inside another window, basically outplaying people by high speed movement, and it did nothing because when I started shooting, they turned and I died instantly. I even died to FCAR in 0.25 seconds which is just bonkers. Light is the only class experiencing this in the whole game. No one is asking for Light to be tanky or like medium healthwise, but it does need some help. There is a huge misconception about the Light class due to noobs playing only bank it and quickplay. The real game is not like that at all.
Light is the worst class by far. Cloak is not even worth picking due to everyone having recon and you die to basically anything. Mines, RPGs, nukes, guns, gas, flame throwers. Everything ends your life in a split second.

You here telling me everyone is supposed to play perfectly every second of everyday to enjoy a class in a game? Get outta here bro. Even if you were to make this argument, that's bad because you shouldn't have a class that is THIS weak that it requires such performance. But even then, best lights agree with the issues.

[velvet moth]

Against PC players most definitely, but what about when you go to a console lobby?

[distant storm]

this is not OW, its a tad bit diff

[limpid basin]

But you're still going against xbox players majority of the time, you're using mnk instead of you're perfectly good to use controller bc mnk is better by a long shot. You want all the advantages a mnk player have but with aim assist

[placid valley]

Bro, you don't have to waste time arguing with those losers who love using wallhacks. They just enjoy cheating, thinking it's the right thing to do and that they're only bound by the game rules, not the ethics of their actions. For them, the same behavior is only considered unfair when the rules explicitly prohibit it. In the current game, recon is not just scanning; it's identical to the hacks being sold outside. There's no reason to scan enemies who are already invisible. Should enabling recon also allow bullets to penetrate heavy player shields? I never argue with kids; just tell them to keep being foolish.

Buff Recon btw

[rose slate]

Correct. It should allow bullets to penetrate heavy shield.

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.
That's why I haven't played the finals.

[wind frost]

REMOVE RECON, and when RECON GETS NERFED heal gun will be the new meta, and you will see 2X HEAVY MESH SHIELD DOME SHIELD getting perma healed, and it will be FUCKING GARBAGE, so nerf it preemptively.

[fossil walrus]

This is one thing that isn't exactly true for everyone. The game has forced upscaling so if you're playing at 1080p and low settings you basically are forced to use FSR2 unless you have a newer GPUS which makes the edges of everything have cross hatching in motion. Normally you look for distortion to find out where the invis player is but everything is distorted. The only thing that's kind of reliable is footstep audio which is the exact same volume for enemies and teammates. It's not always about low skilled players. On lower end systems invisibility is legit extremely difficult to see. If we could run the game native then that wouldn't be an issue.

[earnest ermine]

"they're only bound by the game rules, not the ethics of their actions"

Jesus Christ mate you are talking about a broken item in a video this is not a matter of life or death. Touching grass isn't enough, you need to be forced to go on a week long camping trip with no internet access to unrot your brain

Also please read up on *The Scrub Mentality"

[smoky storm]

It's really not even worth arguing with bots, most have never played past gold lobbies in any FPS and in this game most have not touched ranked or played in a higher MMR. To them, the problems literally don't exist because they play against people who are complete ass and still die to them.

It's the perfect example of why you never balance around casual players, because no matter how imbalanced the game actually is, they cannot actually perceive the imbalance at all, because them and everyone else in their lobby are making so many mistakes while playing that the actual balance of the game is irrelevant. They perceive light as powerful because they can easily kill bad players with it and die to it constantly.

A game balanced around the top % is balanced for casuals as well, but not vice versa.

C4 nukes needed to be nerfed, but the nerf wasn't enough. Mines being nerfed to 140 dmg was needed. RPG nerf is good, it's still a monster ability but it's ok now.

The biggest issues in the game atm are the same they have been since CBT. Nuke, Recon, Defib.

Nuke needs a ton of changes(#👂┇game-feedback message). Recon should be deleted from the game - cheat level wallhacks is just not ok in any FPS game, it removes too much skill from the equation. Defib is almost ok, it needs a few minor changes to nerf it. Imo, being able to shoot through the invincible player(can't use them as shield) and having it's charge "reset" upon taking damage would bring it into a balanced state. #👂┇game-feedback message

The above 3 things completely change the flow of the game. Nuke is capable of 1hko in a game with slow TTK, with a low cooldown and no skill requirement. Recon literally breaks the game in so many ways I could write a book about how bad it is, and defib currently breaks the flow of fights.

[hard wasp]

remove recon and replace it with defib as an ability. Defib already gives the illusion of options when in fact it is mandatory. Almost 400h in game and I have never seen a medium without it, even when the game was fresh and there was no meta yet.
Mediums should have the ability to choose meaningful loadouts without being pigeon held into a must have. That's not healthy for a game, never was never will be.

If defib is an ability and they wanna go cringe MMM with 3x defibs, they will sacrifice heals or turrets.

Easy fix for both issues. I personally do not believe recon needs a rework. It just needs to go away. Let people use their ears to know where people come from. Let Lights scout for their team. Let the cool gigachads using melee weapons have a chance to engage a team from under/above levels without the enemy knowing everything.

[pliant trail]

remove recon!!! nerf 2 healers with a heavy give deflib longer cooldown remove c4 and nerf heavys dmg with weapons they already have shield 2 op gadgets and still melts with shotgun and lewis gun and fcar is still too easy to spray with that give it a nerf aswell

[placid valley]

Ok, hope the day when I come back, the recon is buffed and the game is dead. lmao. Buff recon, buff fcar, buff defib, and some sad cheaters' brains

[upper citrus]

this is true that’s why invis needs to be balanced around being fully invis like other competitive games do

[pliant yoke]

It would be nice if there was a seperate store for excess vr points, even if it's just a bunch of recolours or seperate skins

[pliant onyx]

25% more hp is wild, but something like 160 or 175 would be good

[livid hawk]

can you please stop putting me in ongoing matches ffs It's not funny

[steady ruin]

fix the cheating in thee game.. playing with a blatant cheater rn

[pliant lion]

Can you guys PLEASE do something about the ranked matchmaking or at least let us know if you're working on it? I'm pretty consistently being put up against top 200 players and I'm currently gold 3. I just played 6 or 7 ranked matches, one of which we got knocked out in the Finals after one player suddenly got incredible aim after being ass all match, but that's not the point. In the following matches we got screwed all the time and I've now lost any gain in Fame points that I've had over the last weekend. There almost seems to be a pattern that you get matched with people worse than you so you win one ranked tournament and after that the game puts you into matches that you can't possibly win, even if you suddenly got twice as good during the match. At the very least let us know what our hidden MMR is so we know where we are in the entire pool of players.

The entire ranked tournament gamemode can be summarized as "one step forward, two steps backwards". Seemingly the only way to get higher in rank is to play 16 hours a day and just force yourself through the bullshit you get in 9/10 matches, but the majority of the playerbase probably doesn't have time for that.

[north siren]

Remove mines. Zero skill item.

[fossil walrus]

I've said it before but they can keep the health the exact same and just make lights start healing out of combat much quicker than any other class. If you did the work to get out of a fight you should be rewarded. Instead you have to wait forever in addition to having the lowest health in the game.

[wind frost]

They need to be very careful with buffing light. The only reason they feel "underpowered" is because everyone else (recon med + fcar) is so strong.

[opaque patio]

i agree i think aside from the op things the ttk in this game feels good

[smoky storm]

healing beam:Heal from two beams DOES NOT STACK. Healing is paused for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg. Help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay. environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions: #👂┇game-feedback message

[quick coyote]

Replace recon with defib, throw recon in the trash bin.

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[mellow gull]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

[earnest ermine]

Stop expecting people to play by the rules in your head. If you step on a mine it is your fault. Skill is based on results and if you lose 10-0 to someone turning the battlefield into a game of minesweeper then who is the real unskilled one here?

Also read this https://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win

[pseudo briar]

heavy is still so strong the nerf felt like a tickle 😴

[hard wasp]

I agree for them being careful buffing light, but Fcar + recon is not the only reason that our life is miserable in ranked. You die to everything in a split second. Heavy still exists and at higher mmr they just go shotgun and you die to no matter what in the cringe dome fight. RPGs the same, mines although rare, the same.

Defib makes this even worse because you tryhard to outmanoeuvre your opponent, you get that sweet kill, you have 20hp left you run for your life, and the guy just gets insta rezed. By the time my regen kicks in, I am chased with recon, already dead, or just have to deal with a 1v2, wait for team or whatnot.

[solid narwhal]

To be completely honest the mouse and keyboard problem can be fixed easily,
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.
Also, fix the cheating and the recon senses

[half swallow]

Restore Keyboard and Mouse support on consoles please. We have adapted to it and going back to the use of controller is not fun. If you want fairness don't allow players using K/M on consoles to turn off crossplay. So it will match them with K/M players

[finite dew]

everything but the first thing is reasonable. MORE MICROTRANSACTIONS, WEEKLY META CHANGES THAT ONLY BUFF MEDIUMS !!!!!

[placid valley]

Fuck no, who cares Mnk, balance, bugs or even the game. You should all go fishing. Buff recon. I want to see the game dying more quickly.

[hasty oriole]

Man this game is really stale now. Only mediums are viable. Every game is all mediums.. an occasional heavy. T

[finite wind]

matchmacking in soloq is trash, getting against 3 stack platinum with 2 random bronze and silver every time, and they don't even use the voice chat

[small wren]

What's wrong with u bro talk to me if ur having a bad day I'm a therapist

[reef jasper]

Medium class needs to be put in check

[blissful bridge]

The only nerf recon needs is to make it non-togglable.

This would make it be used more sparingly and tactfully without destroying it's overall design and function.

[upper citrus]

remove recon

[smoky storm]

I haven't played console since the xbox 360 days, but I agree with you 100%. MNK, Controller, Gyro should be natively supported on both PC AND Console.

Console players should have the exact same options as PC for peripherals, and should have full MNK support, customizable hotkeys, sensitivities, etc.

Disable the ability to change input mid-match, and let the console MNK players play with the rest of us PC MNK players. Console players who want to play native MNK deserve the support.

I can only hope that Embark temporarily disabled the bugged mouse input on console in prep for releasing a patch where it's fully supported.

[north siren]

Maybe it’s just the light needs a buff. Specifically you should be able to dash through windows and doors (break/open them) you should be able to dash through mines without setting them off. Maybe like a .15 second damage mitigation every dash. And I still think mines need less damage range or something. And y’all’s issue with recon can easily be fixed by giving it the same rules as the thermal vision where when deactivated it’s put on a cooldown again.

[exotic condor]

3 hours of ranked tournament. 5 games with aimbotters/cheaters, and they are even teaming. Server: Asia. LOL. Currently stucked at Platinum 1 trying to grind to Diamond solo. GG Embark. Got to fix the cheats above anything else. Can you get an admin or someone in your cheating department to look at the games in Asia servers? LOL.

[brave plover]

Fix raw Input Mouse, Input lag since Patch 1.5.0 sucks :c .. lighty MPs doesnt feel like before and FCAR is so broke … pls fix it

[twilit anvil]

Please make a killcam/replay system so we can find cheaters easily

[neon timber]

just wanna throw this out there me and my 2 i mainly play with friends all have over 100+ hours on this game and the battle pass is still not done which blows our brains apart

[subtle oak]

We need more challenges or a higher level cap to keep us busy.

I’m now going for trophies because it was getting boring just running the same stuff over and over again.

[quick coyote]

Replace recon with defib, throw recon in the trash bin

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console

Remove recon

Fix cheating problem

Nerf defib

Fix input lag for mouse

Fix the doors everyone keeps getting stuck on

[half swallow]

I agree with you, of late gaming is advancing technologically and now consoles behave like PC so game must start supporting Keyboard and Mouse on consoles. It will make consoles mini PC and we all can enjoy, XBOX is trying to publish games on Smart Phone, Smart TVs, PC and consoles. Playstation has moved some of its games on PC and such games can be played using K/M on PC, so what stops Console players also enjoying thier favorite games using K/M. The console devs have made the consoles to support Keyboard and mouse, so Game devs utilize it .

[fossil walrus]

I disagree. It's a mechanic that doesn't need to be in any FPS. It's lame in Apex and it's lame here. Wall hacks shouldn't be a thing. I like what others have said in removing it all together and replacing it with defibrillator.

That way you're killing two birds with one stone and you can probably keep defibrillator the exact same and have it be somewhat balanced if mediums had to give up turret or healing beam to have it. Decent trade off imo

@north siren Light just needs faster healing out of fights and maybe I would remove the invisibility toggle and replace it with something else. I think a better, less cheese mechanic would be something like Nokk from Siege.

A toggle that makes you not appear on any sonar or motion sensor and your steps are silent but you're completely visible. That way sword play is viable, flanks are still there and you can still have multiple playstyles but you're not just able to sit in a corner and not be seen.

Maybe they can do something else as well but I think that's a better alternative.

[stone crown]

Suggestion:

Once all equipment has been unlocked, let us convert VRS int MB at a rate of 3000 VRS --> 150MB

[sonic flare]

If you want m&k just buy a PC

• Fix crossplay so people can stop complaining about getting beamed by PC players

[blissful bridge]

You don't enjoy this gameplay style.

The FPS genre isn't limited to one kind of style or function.

[quick coyote]

REMOVE DEFIB AND RECON SENSES

[smoky storm]

Except wallhacks completely limits the game to one kind of style because everyone has knowledge they should not have. There's a reason wallhacks are universally the most common cheat in FPS, even more than aim cheats. It gives a bigger advantage than they do for all but the worst players, and removes the need for the vast majority of FPS skills, excluding aim. Having it be an ability stifles the creative gameplay you want.

@north siren I don't mind sonar as much because it functions more like an area denial and you can easily avoid it. Recon is much different. From apex, bloodhound/seer are also both issues because it's an unavoidable scan, just gives wallhacks and that makes it OP. If they were more sonar like(ie, a grenade that you could see and avoid), they would be much less troublesome. Recon is worse than any other ability ever introduced in any FPS game; it gives nearly as big of an advantage as downloadable cheats.

[north siren]

Thoughts on sonar grenade, since everyone hates recon. (I run heal beam)

[solid narwhal]

@smoky storm speaking facts 🗣

[upper citrus]

sonar is in a great spot rn but i think it just needs to be destroyable

[half swallow]

This is archaic ways of thinking. Then console games should not be published on PC and PC game should not be published on Console. Technology is advancing and we are moving into an era where you can play games on any smart or computing devices so controls should not be restricted. Anyone should allowed to play with any controls the gamer prefers (Proper Accessibility) and measures should be put in place to ensure fairness not restrictions. See through the future of Gaming.

[sonic flare]

Theres just no point you get m&k on console you only gonna be able to play against pc players anyways unless what you want to use m&k against controller players? You that bad?

[modern sparrow]

Can we get a thumbs up or kudos or cheer feature after a match? where we can let a player or our teammate know we appreciate them or thought they were good?

[mellow gull]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

[queen rover]

Really dissappointed with Embark after launch. This game will have 10k concurrent in 3 months if they're lucky

[sour bane]

You explained it far better than I could have

Cross the map wall hacks had no place in a FPS game

[reef jasper]

The game has incredible potential! Great maps, cool abilities, solid mechanics. However the recon ability as is, is taking away from the creativity of the game.

The game with recon being used, as much as it is, relies on positioning only. Taking away the need for map knowledge mostly, along with 3rd and 4th parties being rampant bc of the information given to teams through recon. Movement doesn’t matter too much because, as said before, positioning going into fight (knowing where everyone is) is all that is needed.

Would be good to rework/remove the ability to allow for more diversity in gameplay.

Side note: between actual hackers and wall hacks as an ability… the game is going to die if not changed or corrected sadly

[quick coyote]

Talking to that guy is like clapping with one hand. He wants his game on easy mode otherwise he won’t be able to do shit

[still pewter]

I feel like you should be able to play the 3v3 quick cash game in quick play like how it is in the final round of a tournament, it would really go a long way to helping with that team versus team practice

[blissful bridge]

You should play a game that has the gameplay you want in it instead of advocating for changing the style of a game that I enjoy.

This game needs to be balanced around the style that Embark has envisioned for it.

I enjoy this game and it's style. I love that players have access to fun and powerful abilities.

@quick coyote you said about me "He wants his game on easy mode otherwise he won’t be able to do shit"

I don't use recon, and I want it kept in the game.

Advocating for it to be removed is "wanting the game to be easier".

You do understand your hypocrisy right?

@hard wasp ranked and casual both play differently from each other.

Ranked is filled with players maximizing there chance to win. So they always choose the best optimal loadouts.

Balancing for ranked concerns will throw the game into an unending mess of balancing issues because of the way it's played.

The game needs to be balancing around the experience and style it's trying to deliver.

There are far more popular titles that have been ruined by constant nerfs and buffs stemming from the competitive fanbase.

Role Lock / Specialization Lock Ranked Mode

Fix SBMM / Matchmaking

These two fixes would stop a lot of complaints which usually stem exclusively from the competitive fanbase.

This would help balance out Ranked without removing or destroying the equipment.

[hard wasp]

You must be playing only quick play. There is nothing fun in ranked. It's just stacked mediums with recons knowing everything at all times. There is literally zero fun and 98% of the builds in game are worthless.
@exotic slate if I would make clips of my games...thats like 90% of the ways I die. Corner peaked, chased, cannot flank as light. Impossible to play really. It's just respawn simulator.

[north siren]

We need a game mode like uplink from cod bo3. It would be fun to throw items into an objective to get points.

[gusty mountain]

Remove level 40 cap. Thank you. I want to grind to lv100.

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console

Remove recon

Fix cheating problem

Nerf defib

Fix input lag for mouse

Fix the doors everyone keeps getting stuck on

[stray basalt]

Honestly solid work Embark with the game so far. You guys are one of the most responsive devs I’ve seen in a while for changes, bugs, etc. the updates overall are pretty solid but minor gripes I have would be a big lack in content. Like new events such as earthquake, acid rain, the floor is lava. You guys have probably thought of such events so that isn’t even a major issue. I know probably worked on this at some point but seeing as it a virtual game show could we maybe in game callouts on players(like having a certain amount of kills, things like that 🙏). You guys have a very solid foundation for the game and I’m excited to see where you guys take it.

[slim karma]

Recon Senses needs a rework to the way it detects people, and it also needs to be non-toggleable. It shouldn't have constant up-time.

[oblique mango]

DEVS can you guys change the regen for for all classes. If movement and health changes for all, then so should regen. Light should take the least time and HEAVY should take the most, with Medium in the middle. The current heavy regen time is perfect but i believe med and light regen time (the cooldown time between damage and regen start) should decrease to balance the lights.

[keen steppe]

You should stop defending wallhacks and learn how to predict enemy movement instead of relying on a crutch to make the game easier and only fun for you.

This game needs to be balanced around fair engagements that allow both parties to have fun with it and not only the ones using wallhacks.

I enjoy fair games without ingame wallhacks that allow all players to have fun and not be forced to play only one ability to even the playinfield.

[pliant hill]

delete recon

[modern sparrow]

geeze guys you all really struggle that much with recon players? kay how about they add a counter to recon at least. buff invis and make it undetectable to recon?

[fossil walrus]

Then you'll have two toxic abilities instead of one?

[sonic flare]

If you use recon you are trash at this game end of story.

[queen rover]

https://steamcharts.com/app/2073850 Should probably fix your game while you still have players. A month between balance updates is unacceptable so soon after launch.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[quick coyote]

how in the hell removing wallhack makes the game easier? i feel like i'm losing neurons whenever you say something

[plush grotto]

If they end up heavily nerfing recon, if not removing it completely, I think invis would also require a nerf. I use recon to prevent getting tazed lmao. Better yet, leave invis the same but make taser a melee range, maybe just a little longer like 5 meters instead of the 15

[orchid plinth]

played this game in the beta or whatever it was found it really fun and played it again last night it was actually really fun again

[stone crown]

Ya, they've lost about 73% of their playerbase since release.... from ~240,000 at release to about 64,000 currently players now...

[blissful bridge]

Once again, I do not use Recon Senses. I am no good with them and I enjoy the turret.

The toxicity of removing or debilitating abilities will erode the style of this game.

@modern sparrow all the people wanting it removed are just toxic competitive players who struggle in ranked because recon is the meta right now.

They only derive their enjoyment from winning and ranks.

Ranked needs to have better matchmaking and Role Lock to help balance it without ruining the equipment and style of the game.

Competitive gaming is extremely toxic to balancing an enjoyable game.

"X item is meta in ranked, please remove/change it so I can win."

They literally don't care about the style of the game and helping to craft it.

EDIT:
After Recon is changed or removed the meta will move onto another combination of abilities and they'll cry about those until the game plays nothing like it was originally intended.

[edgy tundra]

Out of every game I've tried to get my wife to play, this is the game she's actually stuck to and enjoyed! Keep up the good work.

[near silo]

You only need one of those changes, being damage. If anything, the Sledgehammer needs a buff for swing speed.

[livid trail]

Any chance to get a main menu FPS cap? No point in 250w GPU usage at the main menu

[stray basalt]

Ok I think we can all agree that we don’t want the finals to die. There are issues with cheaters and certain ability(main two are invisibility and recon) In my opinion, I think it need to either be heavily reworked(makes it so it like bloodhound’s scan ability in apex. Secondly heavily nerfed, and finally removed entirely(that’s fine by me). I think if we are to compromise there should just be heavy nerf made to it.

[ebon surge]

Nerf rev

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.

[viral pulsar]

Hello guys i have a very simple very small very important thing,

Can we make it so there is a way to look down off a ledge without slipping off it ?!

[keen steppe]

You should stop defending wallhacks.

The toxicity of keeping wallhacks in the game will erode the fun and this game overall.

All the people defending wallhacks are just toxic and want to have an unfair advantage against anyone not using wallhacks. Like any other cheater.

They only derive their enjoyment from using overpowered and unfair advantages that ruin the fun for anyone not doing the same.

The game needs to have better balancing and to stop ruining the fun for anyone not using this one ability.

Using wallhacks is extremely toxic and ruins enjoyable games.

Wallhackers literally don't care about the game and and its longevity and just want to use legal wallhacks.

[quick coyote]

For the invis I think that all it needs is an increase in distortion. Make it actually distort light, of course in the open it’s gonna be visible but during a fight with buildings collapsing a bunch of dust/smoke/gas everywhere it’s gonna be impossible to see. That’s my idea at least

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[molten trail]

Remove recon

[modern sparrow]

I am legit trying to think of a way to make everyone happy here. first off the people saying this game is going to die within like a month please leave your stupidity knows no bounds. Second since so many people seem to have troubles with recon players we should devise an actual counter instead of the many people here just simple bickering nonsense and complaining. What are some ideas? Maybe instead of straight up seeing the people in real time through walls it could act as a sonar ping that goes off at least 3 or 2 times before shutting off? but I also understand the need to counter invis with recon because invis is basically damn near perfect perfect invisibility. What if we made invis like the halo cloaking? where you are only 100% invis if you are standing still and then 50% visible when moving? im just throwing ideas out there would love to hear actual feedback instead of people just crying over and over.

[light parcel]

+1 , can't play with Controller , when it worked m&k i always enabled crossplay and i love to play with PC ones
Matchmaking should be like COD on consoles , if it detects that you have M&K , then the game should just let you to play just with PC guys or players that use like me M&K on consoles.
If this feature is not going to be added, well , can't play with controller, so , have to drop this wonderful game. I really like it and it gives a added value on the games industry, is something new. So , please listen to us , and make the game like COD on matchmaking detection !!

[hard wasp]

The devs clearly let us test certain features in the game anyway, like the solo mode etc. Just remove Recon for 1 week and see the feedback. 100% better game. Such a slog to keep getting ran down by this shit ability. I am still amazed how a dev who worked in battlefield thought this ability is a good idea.

[north siren]

What if recon worked like dash in the sense that you had a couple pulses/usesthat would scan around a 10 meter range for 2 seconds or something.

[quick coyote]

i'm having the weirdest bug i've ever seen!! i see myself through allies pov but i can move and shoot

[plush grotto]

I think everyone would be cool with recon being gone. It’d make for more strategic play.

Although, after nerfing or getting rid of recon, we’d have everyone bitching about heal beams and defib again lmao.

[near silo]

Just make recon sense the same/similar effect as the sonar grenade, simple.

This would be (compared to the sonar grenade):

• A larger range compared to sonar, though not too far.
  Distinguishes itself from sonar.
• 1 scans/blips.
  Gives a short but immediate information to both your team .
• Centered around you.
• Based on charges like the dash.

Solves the issues of it giving 100% map knowledge for free, adds counterplay snice it would reveal both that it is happening and your position. Also give the light the tracker darts and sonar grenades aswell, since light needs more than just being the pick class.

Other options would be replace it with thermals, give it to light instead or remove it.

[round thunder]

not everyone, recon is good when the whole team is camping in the corners. It's too powerful rn but we could nerf it like @modern sparrow said "it could act as a sonar ping that goes off at least 3 or 2 times before shutting off"

[rigid minnow]

MAKE RANKED HAVE 1 OF EACH CLASS PER TEAM. DEFIB SPAM AND HEALING GANGBANG IS CANCER AND WILL KILL THE GAME

[main badge]

remove the dead go boom

[carmine ginkgo]

100% agree on this, they really should stop trying to do what apex does at least when it comes to mnk&controller balance, apex has set a very bad example imo, they took the easy and cheap way out, and embark should really step it up if they wanna prove themselves to be free of EA’s influence

[wary mulch]

I uh just want to say thanks Embark. This is the most fun I’ve had playing an FPS game since I was a kid rocket jumping in Quake 2 during a LAN party.

How this game rewards teamwork AND creativity with utility and destruction is just something so ingenious and addicting. Thank you guys so much!!!!

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console

Remove recon

Fix cheating problem

Nerf defib

Fix input lag for mouse

Fix the doors everyone keeps getting stuck on

[quick coyote]

full team cheating. this game is gonna be dead in a couple of months

[sage bison]

Hi Embark, since you don't seem to care about giving players wall hacks, can we also have aim hacks too? It's always so hard to track those pesky lights!

[blissful bridge]

I think the best nerf would be to make it non-togglable.

This would stop players from spam scanning and chasing down other players.

They'd have to use it more sparingly and it's use would give it more tactic.

If they are chasing someone they'd only have a small amount of time before it runs out and they lose sight of them.

[round thunder]

Def agree! Can't tell you how many times I've been trolled with 3 turrets at once or one heavy build just spamming the flamethrower with two medium healing him at once...

[lilac terrace]

Can we get rid of the glaring red background in the lobby screen? 🚩

[quick coyote]

The best nerf is to throw it away.

[urban crow]

Been using recon for the past few days. It is definitely overpowered. Maybe set it to have a limited range, and maybe only pick up on moving targets? (meaning standing still would make you undetectable).. or make detection pulse like the sonar grenades. Either that, or introduce other gadgets that counter it effectively.

[quick coyote]

we already have, new reWASD aimbot still works and not bannable, like debugcheat that allowes you to killaura anything that spawns

[rigid minnow]

give turrets a 25% miss rate. so like 1 in 4 shots dont hit or dont register. trying to take a cashout with basicially a 4 man team 3 med defib spam and 1 turret is horrible

[cunning stag]

I'm so sad that I had to go back to cod after they removed MnK from Xbox, I just don't enjoy controller.

[upbeat pumice]

MFERS USE AN ACTUAL GUN IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE.

Nukes, mines, g launcher spam, rpg + flamethrower, riot shields, turrets.

The AA nerf turned everyone in to an actual gremlin.

I haven’t died to a gun in 5 games.

[vernal edge]

heavy on the kmb on console!

[tender stratus]

We need to patch HE out, nukes are overpowered and unfun to play with and against. I assume the throwing range nerf actually works if you just remembered to do it to propane as well. I think that would solve most of the issues.

[manic aspen]

i have no idea why people cry about stun giun invis lights

@gilded ivy light is bad, end of disc

[gilded ivy]

lmao you getting one clip of a light being terrible doesn’t make it any less annoying

[untold haven]

invis is actually so easy to see and infinitely counterable regardless

[modern sparrow]

we could always go the direction that arcsystems did with dragon ball fighterz and just make everyone broken and overpowered so it cancels everything out. seems to work great for them lol.

Jokes aside I would like more unlockable free content guys. Already unlocked everything and finished battlepass super fast. I have nothing else to work towards 🥺 also I know it's probably highly unlikely but could we maybe free the cap on the free currency we make and make it so we can buy store items for a really high VRS currency price that players really have to grind for? idk I just want more content I have nothing to work towards now lol.

[quick coyote]

Hahahhahaha lol yeah. That’s most of my encounters. Though I use dash so I get a bit more time on the clock before inevitably dying

[viral pulsar]

But really, somehow preventing "slipping" off ledges
-since it seems this game applies a generous ammount of grease near any ledge-
it would be nice, just saying

[quick coyote]

THIS IS THE WEIRDEST BUG I'VE EVER SEEN.
We respawned and the game gave me my teammate POV. The guy with the AK jumping and shooting is me. I could move and shoot but i had my teammate POV. Wake the devs up and show them this shit please. @balmy delta were you the guy in my team?

[solid narwhal]

Please bring kb&m support back into the game for console players, there was never a problem with it and aim assist didn't transfer over to players using kb&m either

[midnight meteor]

me and my friends have gotten a crash all day is it client or server side?(For some reason i cant send a picture)

[blissful bridge]

If they could balance it out that would be a fun and cool ability to have in the game.

Imagine McCree's or Soldier 76's ultimate abilities from Overwatch.

It'd be more balanced to allow the player to have to stand still and be highlighted while "aiming" making them an easy target.

It could work and be balanced.

[stone crown]

That's just you bud

[tepid violet]

Just nerf Recon Senses…it’s so hard to push other teams because they see you before you even close to them💀💀

[jagged jolt]

Light is just useless compared with other clases

[earnest ermine]

No they ain't

[supple flare]

Please devs do not listen to your casual playerbase, they have no clue what is actually broken and what is not. Don’t go down that route. Look at data from your top players lmfao

[quick coyote]

Consider adding 2 sets of daily challenges would be nice to be awarded for putting in the time to do them

[upper citrus]

this works so well in games like apex (it ruined the game) and when they did it in fortnite (it ruined the game) and also siege (it ruined the game)

i really think finals should do this!

[smoky storm]

idk bout the other two, but apex is an example of a game which didn't listen to it's good players at all.. virtually of the things they've been complaining about since S0 have not been addressed. So not sure what the fuck you smokin

[rose snow]

Not sure what all of the settings mean/do. There are “best settings” videos. I just need a settings explained video.

[sage bison]

agreed. casual = ignored.

[twilit leaf]

Buff light regen speed, remove recon.

[crisp valve]

Game mode suggestion: co-op. It could be a time trial thing where you and/or a friend have to deliver several cash boxes to either one or more cashouts, but you can pre-plan a route, set up zips and pads etc.

Also Private Lobbies. I literally have 10 other friends, we all play this game together, and we’ll even all be chillin in Discord while in our own games and let the chaos of our voices echo😂 but a private match thing - whether it be expanding the menu lobby, or making a passkey system where someone hosts - that would be awesome

[solid narwhal]

They're mainly focused on making it a fun experience for its players, they say that all the time🤦

[fierce flume]

the comp playerbase is not as good also tho

[quick coyote]

This guy really talks about balancing walkhacks and aimbots. 💀

[stone crown]

They're a company. They're mainly focused on making money first and foremost..

[twilit lily]

No one remembers that anymore. The company DOES NOT care about your "fun" especially since Nexon is the big daddy funder in the background. Nexon is VERY greedy, they aren't going to allow "fun" unless it's profitable. No company is concerned with your "fun" unless it makes them money.

[worthy helm]

REMOVE RECON

[blissful bridge]

You should find a game you enjoy that doesn't have abilities you hate.

[quick coyote]

How do i learn this trick? This guy was shooting on the floor and the bullets are ricocheting on me. Wow. Truly mind blowing. I wish i had this kind of skills

[edgy tundra]

Heavy doesn't care if it's seen taking down your building.

[sour bane]

buff medium
buff recon sense
buff fcar
buff defib
revert nuke nerf
revert rpg nerf
reduce health of light

^ only way to save the game

[wanton quarry]

First, thanks for fixing AA on PS5.
2nd, Lower damage to self on heavy's rpg. It makes no sense.

[cunning dagger]

Shoud be able to leave the game if a teammate has left, and bonus points should be awarded for it.
Why the fuck am I supposed to play 10 minutes duo just to fucking get a negative rating

[fossil citrus]

replay mode?

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.

[indigo condor]

lols

[turbid moss]

Nerf turrets…

[gloomy sapphire]

move sniper ot medium , remove stungin,

[half swallow]

100 percent support, I will have to drop this game and move to Rogue Company if they refuse to restore the keyboard and mouse on console.

[vague shadow]

Give heavy a 50 cal sniper rifle that one shots every class

[blissful bridge]

I trust Embark to balance this game without removing or over-altering existing weapons and abilities while keeping faithful to the gameplay and style that they have envisioned for it.

[glacial basalt]

after Player die they cant see the countdown of respawning other team fix it

[reef jasper]

this game will die with recon as is

[feral jungle]

can anyone help me out, i believe i was falsely banned, i have never cheated in my life, on any game, never have and never will. I do not support it either. But yesterday all of a sudden i started having issues loading into games. It would go to loading screen then just freeze on loading screen but i could hear the game and everything until it went to a black screen and gave me the error code (TFGE0002) i’ve tried to go on there support website to appeal it but they never contact me back. Does anyone have any advice?

[whole rain]

You don’t get credit for kills after you die IE burn or mine… or credit for charge kills off map

[noble nimbus]

Idea: Big Team Game mode, 6v6. (Maybe limit how many ppl can play a certain class, no thanks to 6 M defibs)

[tacit aspen]

fIX RANKED NOW MAKE ME FACE PLAYERS WITH SAME RANK

[glacial salmon]

Remake recon, dumb ability

[proper quarry]

Custom games

You can have your own people to make a game/tournament

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console

[dreamy river]

fr bring back kbm to console controller is boring

[junior ridge]

why the hell can an rpg not break a gas barrel anymore

[velvet moth]

[blissful bridge]

I trust Embark to balance this game without removing or over-altering existing weapons and abilities while keeping faithful to the gameplay and style that they have envisioned for it.

@noble nimbus I'd love a TDM, but role / ability lock should only be added to it's ranked mode variant to stop most "please nerf X item because it's meta in ranked" complaints.

[limpid basin]

Then goodbye, won't hurt the game at all if you leave😂

[queen rover]

https://steamcharts.com/app/2073850 Should probably fix your game while you still have players. A month between balance updates is unacceptable so soon after launch.

[sand wasp]

take a look at past month player count performance and tell me major balancing doesnt need to happen. youre a fool dude

[oblique bramble]

Idk, they made their season 0 season pass. get in, get your money, get out

[coral axle]

I need a hell hound event PLEASE!!!

[quick coyote]

Please do something about the cheaters in Asia server ffs it's so bad

[solid narwhal]

Kbm on console wasn't a problem before they removed it, please bring it back

[exotic depot]

Finals devs deserve a raise, love and appreciation tell me otherwise and u simply dont understand what went into this game

[wraith hinge]

Yes please

[outer iron]

Just make recon sense the same/similar effect as the sonar grenade, simple.

This would be (compared to the sonar grenade):
A larger range compared to sonar, though not too far.
Distinguishes itself from sonar.
1 scans/blips.
Gives a short but immediate information to both your team .
Centered around you.
Based on charges like the dash.

Solves the issues of it giving 100% map knowledge for free, adds counterplay snice it would reveal both that it is happening and your position. Also give the light the tracker darts and sonar grenades aswell, since light needs more than just being the pick class.

Other options would be replace it with thermals, give it to light instead or remove it.

[safe idol]

😍

[tropic swift]

Agreed. I vote for this

[soft rain]

100 times yes.

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E R E C O N

[dusty tide]

alr bruh i just used recon and got crowd pleaser this shit is overpowered, remove it pls its wallhacks

[wild ginkgo]

A simple nerf to recon sense would be to not allow you to hold/fire your gun while its active. Still not a fan of it but at least it would stop people from being prefired constantly

[buoyant monolith]

let me play with proton-ge on linux😴

[limpid basin]

Yes it was a problem hence why they removed it, being able to play kbm on console shouldn't be allowed it's clearly unfair and considered cheating. I agree with the guy who said ppl who play kbm should be put in lobbies with other console players who play kbm, but that hasn't happened yet so just go get a pc

[silent lance]

alright.. this guy won the internet for today!

[icy aspen]

After nerf, aim assist was in a good place and that was fine, but another update came out and it felt non existent. Went from average game of 17 kills to like 2

[olive tree]

you guys should add a practice that you can do with a duo.

[oblique bramble]

You two are the same person. You're always both in there posting and liking each other's mentions and posting the same exact messages.

[solid narwhal]

Yes bro that's literally what I've been saying this whole time, they should have input based matchmaking for console players. But before they "patched" it, it still wasn't really a problem because the aim assist was literally dominating us. Now, I'd they have kb&m support and input based matchmaking for console that would still not be a problem being that they basically removed AA.

Also stop riding my meat bc I'm not getting a pc

[molten trail]

Text chat

[tiny grail]

Give light a knockback grenade or smth (why medium got all the movement shit)

[odd harbor]

fix aim assist its been bugged ever since 1.5

[outer iron]

Kbm on console

Remove recon

Fix cheating problem

Nerf defib

Fix input lag for mouse

Fix the doors everyone keeps getting stuck on

[safe idol]

[fiery thorn]

there needs to be a leaver penalty in all gamemodes. as a solo player it is average every game to at least go through 2-3 teammates if not more

[reef jasper]

game is just hackers and recon

[livid spoke]

Need kbm on consle

[final mason]

I would love it if the revive was faster and the cooldown for leaving the tournament was 15 mins instead of 30

[limpid basin]

If aim assist was dominating you then you just suck tbh. Kbm is so dominant on this game that console players don't want to play with cross play cause the instantly get beamed, so why would they have to go to console servers and still have to deal with kbm, deal with it kbm is gone from console

[vapid crystal]

more game exp please.

[solid narwhal]

Of course you don't know shit about the AA bc if you did you would know why they fixed it you think you are the one beaming people? Thats just a fantasy dude that AA was godly, bro you need to chill out bc firstly you most likely play on pc so how is this concerning you? Secondly, we wanna play on kb&m bc we have been since the game started and switching to controller is like starting from square one. Like, I was agreeing with you at first now you're just acting like you lost both of your parents just yesterday

[quick coyote]

Rpg consequetive nerfs are way too much, it does

• shit max damage
• low splash range
• poor accuracy
• does full pre nerf damage to you regardless of range. (C4 does too)

What's even the point of rpg? If you want it to just be a destruction tool then remove the accuracy nerfs and make the cool down lower, if you want it to be a damage tool then keep the self damage but make it do at least 150 damage on direct hits, a fucking Grenade does more damage than the rpg and you can carry TWO, and any light getting directly hit with an rpg with all that mobility had it coming.

[opaque patio]

an rpg is a lot easier to hit than a grenade

[south sedge]

Do they even care about this channel? I've been seeing people actually talking about cheaters since launch, and we've never heard anything but some bullshit, no offense, but at least communicate with us, tell us what's your plan with cheaters, most of people on the leaderboard are cheating already with full battle pass tier, let me ask another question, do you even look at the reports? I've never seen a game that has a cheater been playing for 3 weeks with obvious cheating Spawn killing, and etc..

I've met the same cheaters in different days, and I've reported them, but they still grinding in the leaderboard, people already are leaving, you better wake up and fix this shit, it's almost 2 months, what are you working on? Even the ranked system is terrible, what are you waiting for? I'm so confused.

[worthy helm]

REMOVE RECON

[rancid skiff]

The answer is likely no. If people buy the battle pass and cosmetics then they’ve already won. You must remember they are running a business first, if that business makes money then they have no reason to work harder

[limpid basin]

I play both and mainly xbox so I know exactly what I'm talking about, when I was on pc vs console players I and my team dominated them each and every time, it's not even a comparison, I never had a problem with it so why do you? Bc you're not that good that's why you're on mnk bc it's easier then a controller. U want the benefits of a mnk player with aim assist, you could've bought a pc with the 500 u spent on your console but you got a console and decided to spend a extra 60 on a xim, im done with this, you're making 0 points, goodluck getting xim support on console again👍🏾

[quick coyote]

REMOVE RECON AND DEFIB

[gilded ivy]

🤡

[soft gorge]

And add to PS5 as well! It was working only on xbox

[kindred jewel]

do NOT add kbm on console back embark… 🦅

[little sail]

REMOVE DEFIB I-FRAMES

[lime fable]

Can you please change it so the event ends after the commentary/warning, please and thank u

[true coral]

hey guys just wanted to take a moment and offer some feedback on the SOLOS game mode. saw that it was "experimental" so figured yall would be accepting to some of my thoughts 😄

ill keep it brief and easy to digest.

1. first of all i had a lot of fun so this isnt me complaining 😄

2. camping: stationary cashouts leads to a ratty form of gameplay where backstabing some1 depositing is a better tactic then actually going for the coins yourself.
   since i doubt yall want to make the cashouts mobile i have a few unique ideas

   idea a: maybe more direct deposit upon elim?
   idea b: my fav, most wanted contracts like warzone, activatable from either a bulletin board or after certain cash on person like if ur caring 20k auto activate. once active if u survive for like 30-45 secs auto deposit ur cash. this would give cash carriers an additional method of depositing instead of taking a risk with the cashout and give ratters a reason to chase/leave cashout.
   idea c: i like this too maybe killstreaks that after 3,4, or even 5 elims auto deposit cash on person. though i like b better ;P

3. imbalance: though some forms of play are countered and balanced in trios, solos mode brings to light and accentuates the difference in classes. i.e. a counter to certain abilities are literally playing with your tm's like stun gun. but when u dont have tms its kinda... different. for example playing light is extremely difficult in solos

i dont really have an idea for this or know the root cause so im just ganna leave it as something i felt from my experience

im not a dev by any means and hell maybe this game mode is strictly jsut ment to be chaos and imbalance. thats cool its yalls game make it how yall want it to play 😄 i still enjoyed it. these are just some ideas i had thought id toss em in here.

thanks for an amazing game!

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for grapple hook to have two charges

[mint stream]

can fcar have more than 20 rounds? just a few? 😭

[woeful perch]

Sure but increase recoil. Oh wow 15 min slow mode

[solid narwhal]

Ok? So you're better than the average Joe. Good for you, but you're so ignorant to the point that I made earlier, they could add input based matchmaking to the game so it is more fair for console players. I'm trying to find a common ground here but you're being an ass. The people who don't want to buy an expensive ass pc can live life how they want to, can they not?@limpid basin

[soft gorge]

It is considered cheating using xim/ chronus to get aim assist on mouse, it was working natively so no aim assist. Stop repeating nonsense.

[indigo condor]

It's already pretty good as long as you can hit your shots

[sharp kraken]

bro tf is this shit, game crashes mid ranked and doesnt even give me 5 minutes to get back? can you guys fix this obvious oversight?

[limpid basin]

Ok whatever makes you feel special 👍🏾

[opaque patio]

don't know why you were accusing them of using xim were they not just asking for mnk support?

[lime fable]

Aim assit deserved the nerf and is in a good spot

[manic aspen]

Skull markers are very very small, I almost saw the enemy, pls make them bigger @quick coyote

[wanton quarry]

Agreed. It should 1 hit lights and mediums.

[bleak tinsel]

Make new maps, the game will get dry if there isn’t nothing new and it’ll die out

[real hollow]

I'm having a lot of difficulty finding you a match, in any modality it's taking a long time to find one

[lapis acorn]

RPG puts lights at 10hp and mediums at 110hp. Just need 3 bullets after w Lewis or one shotty shot. The nerfs were fine. Heavies were using it as they primary weapon and engage tool. Now you have to think about self damage can’t crutch on it to win a fight close range

[indigo condor]

which game mode?

[tribal spoke]

The ranked system needs to be reworked, I should not be put up against top 50 players as a silver player or if I do I should get much higher fp if I win

[reef jasper]

game is just recon recon recon recon recon recon recon

actually boring as hell now

[limpid basin]

Bc they use xim... and the guy I last replied to have 0 idea of what he talking about which is why I basically ignored him, they're begging for xim input to be back on xbox cause they took it out, not really interested in this anymore

[orchid island]

yeah i noticed while playing ranked that i was going against diamond and top 10,000 players while we were silver, me and my friend got less then 1000 dollars and got wiped like 7 times

[sage solar]

is it known around what date the next patch will come? I'm actually bored of out my mind at this point fighting Recon players the whole time.

[tiny grail]

Yeah I've heard about that and I don't know how that happens? like just rank lock it to one rank above or below ffs (or just like premade rank matchmaking pools)

[real hollow]

either way

[waxen granite]

Embark is just chill with recon neck beards ruining the game

[pliant lion]

Remove or severely rework recon senses

[granite topaz]

Remove recon

[modern sparrow]

Just rework recon and ignore the trolls saying to remove it altogether.

[reef jasper]

made a great game, let it die by keeping recon in it.. we are getting tired and bored

also Light is underpowered more than anything in the game and it got nerfed before recon.... horrendously off balanced game. big maps ruled by wall hacks eliminating the need for movement and map knowledge.

game is just wall hacks at this point and a mix of actual hacks. Game has one more update to fix what's needed, for me at least... then im done with it like many others already

[wheat island]

Recon + fcar + rewasd is the true enemy

[sharp belfry]

Pretty much the takeaway every match since the update has been MMM+Recon is incredibly unfun to play against and playing anything else is a chore.

[indigo condor]

to my last knowledge reWASD was fixed

[upper venture]

Why does the Sledgehammer not count as a melee weapon for melee kills / damage? I would like for it to count as a melee weapon, since it literally is.

[solid narwhal]

@limpid basin nobody said you have to stay, you can read my last reply if youre feeling less like a prick, I don't use xim and you can keep saying that I do, and if I do then why am I asking them to add kbm support? you can keep saying things to bring down hopes but if you don't want to play kbm on console then that's just your preference bud go back to your pc. 🖕

[opaque patio]

i dont think they realize that playing mnk on console does not mean you're using xim. xim is a kbm made to trick the game into thinking you're controller

[viscid raft]

nerf recon into the fucking ground. or rework. PLEASE. i BEG you embark

[spiral merlin]

Add mnk to console

[quick coyote]

RECON REWORK
No global wall hacks, just make it slightly stronger than sonar made

• One time use, no longer “pause” to regain charge
• No 100% real time position, make it pulse similar to sonar grenade. Pulse every 2sec; 1sec active scan, 1sec off time, for however long
• MAKE RECON USER GLOWwhile in line of sight of enemy, as if they’re being scanned as well, making them an easy target since it’s minimal skill
• Cloaked enemy’s have no/heavily reduce radius detected, making them sneakier

[glacial salmon]

Pulse recon sounds better. Periodic beat of a person's location. Another person once suggested that it only points the direction of nearby players but not their location. Either way are better than how it is now

[tribal spoke]

Nerf recon

[mint stream]

gotta spam recon in ranked before it gets nerfed 😹

[untold haven]

this is literally the only way that you could keep this in the game (which you shouldn't) with it still being useful and not decimate the meta, id like to add that it shouldn't go much further than 25m away from the player so that it's mainly a close to medium range utility

[wanton dove]

Remove Recon

[lost owl]

delete recon senses from the game entirely

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[pliant lion]

Increase the TTK of the FCAR and slightly increase the magazine size, like one or two more bullets to kill and a little more in the mag so you can still kill people with 1 mag.

To the people saying "AKM"; the TTK of the FCAR is broken atm, only way to nerf it and not make it unusable is to increase the mag size. I'm using the FCAR rn as well because it's broken

[quick coyote]

Agreed, forgot to add. It’s super strong, so maybe if it is still too broken, maybe
Recon reworks:

• Tracks recent footprints/ledge grabs & current enemy utility while super close?
• Original idea but with radius limit
• Gives delayed location (gives enemy position where they was 3 seconds ago) in pulses, similar to original idea/sonar grenade. Radius limited of course

[solemn topaz]

Can we not get PENALIZED when a 3rd disconnects BEFORE THE CHARACTER SELECT?!?!? Had a 2V3 in ranked for the ENTIRE GAME and the game still said "ope too bad minus Fame Points"

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.

[glacial salmon]

Fix the SBMM, really

@wheat island Im sure your ranked matches and quick game matches are both affected by SBMM no matter your elo. I just dont have a picture in a ranked match, only a quickplay.

[wheat island]

Yeah for ranked, sure, who cares about quick games?

[nimble steppe]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.

[tropic swift]

SBMM in pubs like quick cash is a bad idea. It should be implemented just in ranked

[crisp valve]

There should be more game modes. The game is surprisingly super fun as it is, but I do really want there to be more than just 2 game modes. I don’t really like the repetitive “3v3v3” over and over. Yes, I know there’s that solo mode - who cares. I’m tryna play with my friends. Add more modes that aren’t just duplicated or reimagined versions of the same stuff we have right now

[oak lily]

its such a huge advantage for teams that have mics too. pretty much perfect map awareness for an entire squad. the only solution is to goo everything up. Recon just provides too much information to a team, the only solution is to make an impenetrable fortress around an objective or just beat them face to face. you cant flank, you cant hide, you can barely run.

i think to make recon better, replace it with old recon grenades. bigger area, longer cooldown, entire squad gets all the same info you dont need to communicate via mic.
or make it so that it doesn't see through walls and simply makes it easier to see through poison, smoke, and fire kinda like thermal vision. highlighting enemies and maybe even tagging them for teammates.

[grizzled sphinx]

USB Device disconnecting needs to be fixed (preferably as a priority) - it's a widespread problem (google "the finals usb/keyboard disconnecting reddit" and there are a multitude of posts about it). Usually happens 3 or 4 times in a round which can completely ruin the experience

[red shard]

I agree I said that yesterday 😔 exact same words aswell

[quick coyote]

everyone is playing the exact same way in all the fucking matches. you took away the fun from the game, embark. congrats and fuck off

[sharp belfry]

It should be replaced with defib. Then someone can't have medic gun and defib.

[stray crow]

The aim feels completely off on console now. They need to revert all aim assist and aim/zoom changes on console, right now it’s not fun.

[solid narwhal]

Because you put your words together nicely my dude, I'm just spreading it around. Thank you!

[grizzled sorrel]

Fr i agree, most people have been playing since beta with this so randomly taking it out sucks

[hallow ruin]

Remove Recon

[smoky gust]

if an enemy kills someone you were shooting you should still get an assist

[oak lily]

hmmm. its not a bad idea but i dont like the idea of medic gun and defib not being equipable at the same time. just because i think you should be able to play as a dedicated support medic.

i think the defib is the problem. not the medic gun. in the way it is really ruins some aspects of gameplay. a squad can come back from a full wipe in a matter of seconds. and a player can get res'd in the middle of a firefight with little consequence. theres been so many times im 1v1'ing someone and they res someone i just killed and now suddenly i have to 2v1.

[sour bane]

I am kindly asking you to fix the ranked matchmaking. It's so common to get teammates that are all different ranks, it's insanely tough to play this game when new ranked players are mixed in with experienced ones, especially since 95% of people don't use mics. I am begging you.

Why did you even release a ranked mode when it is so unfinished?

Also, rework Recon Sense. Cross map wall hacks has ZERO place in a FPS game, ever. Do better balancing decisions.

[woeful perch]

Stole from reddit. Wanted to share it around.

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[sage bison]

Instead of removing recon why don't you learn how to counter it?

[stray basalt]

I mean light with stun and melee is just as annoying tho

[quick coyote]

how do you counter free wallhacks?

[rose surge]

One way to nerf defib could be to have a period of time after a player is defibbed that they can't use their gadgets or abilities, similar to the glitch grenade. This would prevent defib chaining so triple medium teams wouldn't be so OP.

[viscid raft]

recon is literally just legal map-wide wallhacks, and something like that should NEVER exist.

[midnight meteor]

idk why everyone is complaing about recon and not nade lunchers? remove pls

[dense marlin]

Fuck allat I need my true zero deadzone they really need to change how deadzone works on controller zero deadzone isn’t zero deadzone

[sharp belfry]

Or replace recon with it, nerf defib and recon simultaneously. Also buff glitch grenade

[eager barn]

Yeah I am done with that game.. boring af.. everyone plays the same boring shit.. and embark?… idk what they are doing.. get new devs.. who are working idk

[tacit aspen]

PLZ FIX RANKED MODE I WANT FAIR MATCHES IN RANKED

[stiff linden]

Add more parkour/movement mechanics maybe? Also please create the skateboard specialization for light class

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse support back to the finals on console, you can add input matchmaking to make it fair for non-kbm users
Please and thank you!
Credit to @red shard

[soft gorge]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console.
In the settings put "enable keyboard and mouse" when we enable that it'll put us in other keyboard and mouse lobbies so no unfair advantages will be occurred.
Please and thank you.
Credit to @red shard

[oak lily]

@rose surge That's also a good idea. What if the player started prone on their back and had to get up before they can do anything? that would also fix the problem of a freshly res'd player becoming an impenetrable shield for the person that res'd them. some foggy vision and reduced senses, maybe a glitch debuff.

@sage bison the ways to counter recon are not fun. and not in the "oh it takes skill" its that you only really have a few options. recon counters too many avenues so isntead of being able to bust in through a roof/wall and surprise them, or invis and flank, or assault from multiple directions, all you can really do is meet them face to face and hope you win. it turns the game into a simple arena deathmatch and not a game where you can outsmart your opponents through better mobility, better observational skills, or inherent map awareness. because all three of those things get trumped by wall hacks.

[alpine jungle]

well it's not meant to be easy

[undone veldt]

I don't know how many times I've placed down a zipline only for it to not place down the zipline and still consume the charge of it

[half swallow]

Restore back Keyboard and Mouse support on console. For fairness prevent the K/M users on consoles from turning off crossplay. We need it back.

[dull dome]

I played with a friend of mine on xbox series x and myself on PS5 but he heard me over his tv instead of his headset ‼️ anyone else have this issue??

[rose surge]

@sharp belfry I agree with @oak lily that it should be an option for teams to have a dedicated medic. Defib is definitely too OP for a gadget, but each class has a pretty OP gadget: taser for Light and rocket launcher for heavy. Defib for medium just needs a small nerf IMO. I think the reason people get angry ab it is because of defib chaining and also the period of invincibility. Fixing one of those could work.

[green smelt]

Invis cloak stun gun sword/shotgun isn’t fun for others also imo

[woeful perch]

Not arguing that, the point of the meme has more to do with the Recon FCARs

[past fox]

remove everyhting

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[quick coyote]

it is just me or does everyone have 0 recoil and hits every single headshot in a public lobby

[sharp belfry]

Legit the most fun way to play this right now is to just leave every match until you find one without a MMM lineup. So frustrating.

[topaz barn]

Back in Closed Beta 2, the battlepass was different and it allowed you to obtain the items that you wanted first through unique BP credits that you earned by playing the game. They could do the same in future battlepasses tbh

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse support back to the finals on console, you can add input matchmaking and add another section in the settings dedicated to keybinds and kbm settings to make it fair for non-kbm users
Please and thank you!

[oak lily]

each one of those is frustrating on its own. getting instantly killed as soon as you're res'd is frusterating too.

if you nerf paddles too much, there would be zero reason to pick them over a regular old revive. the paddles need to incentivize players to remove trophies from combat before starting a revive, or to put themselves heavily at risk to revive someone mid combat.
so im thinking:
A: players respawn prone and disoriented. it is very hard for them to enter combat and before they do, they are extremely vulnerable.
B: minigame to make reviving quick, but requires more focus.
C: rework the paddles to revive people more slowly but still allow you to fight while someone is getting res'd. maybe an AED that makes the player getting res'd have to play a minigame to revive themselves while the person who initiated it can go fight elsewhere. I like this one because it gives players an opportunity to reject the revive if they're gonna res in a stupid spot. and the AED can also be destroyed by enemies stopping a revive. might also have some fun moments where a squad gets wiped, but one person got res'd by an AED a few moments after a team thinks that they're safe.

[edgy herald]

As long as you have stuff that counters other stuff that directly, you'll always have people complaining like this.

Games should simply be aim vs evasion vs gamesense, and as soon as you add things in that benefit anyone too much in any of these to the point players start using them to counter each other with the abilities rather than the actual skill they have in those areas you will run into massive problems.

For example invis is a crutch for positioning, it allows players to clear rooms and make plays on others without actually learning the gameknowledge and evasive tactics needed for it or recon is for gamesense and positioning because you just know where everyone is and now everyone is using abilities to do the work for them rather than assisting them, it's why you either have invis and recon abilities and deal with people complaining about it as long as your game exists or you dont. Because you're right if they remove recon now, invis will become a huge problem, and since you cant swap your special mid match you'll have to gamble on if it's worth running a slightly better version of a gadget, and again if you nerf invis to much than why have it? There is literally a gadget that gives you invis as well.

They either gotta remove both or double down and allow specials to be swapped like gadgets and weps.

[pliant rock]

tell me you like titanfall 2 without telling me you like titanfall 2

[wanton nimbus]

Day 4 of asking to bring back keyboard and mouse support for xbox

[quick dew]

too hard to level up the battle pass, i have 40 hours in the game and only level 20, that’s actually crazy

[delicate marlin]

The goo gun being able to stun players is kinda an interesting idea and it makes the sledge hammer semi viable. If stun locking is an intended feature then please make it less janky. Sometimes shooting goo at players stuns them for a good bit but other times they are free instantly. Its completely random

[waxen cedar]

it is extremely easy to level battlepass, your character on the otherhand is pretty lengthy/"difficult"

[lusty gull]

I'd have to counter that with the opposite, I feel like the battle pass is to short and required to little grinding to get done, did it in like 3 weeks maybe 4

[lofty remnant]

Heavy should be nerfed. 300 HP instead of of 350. RPG should be a weapon only.

Light should be buffed, sprint faster maybe ?

Medium should be nerfed, heal is too strong, it actually counters bullets.

[sharp kraken]

heavy mines need nerfing everything else seem good for what they are supposewd to be

[quick coyote]

heavy has already had a major nerf, rpg, C4, and basically every weapon for heavy is nerfed and almost terrible. Lights are the most broken, being able to run really quick, have a shotgun that can 2 tap any class regardless, a sniper to hit really far ranges, and OP Smgs that outgun any gun in a gunfight. Lights also have stun gun which is just an easy kill for them and cloak is almost impossible to see unless you have maxed out graphics and perfect eyes. Lights make the game way more difficult and are very broken atm. I wouldn't be complaining about needing a buff when they are literally the strongest class in game. you don't need the ability to solo every squad, so stick with your team in a team based game, and win

[lilac coral]

Haven’t being on the game in a week and honestly I like the feel of it nice hotfix and patches GGs 🇮🇪

[wild ginkgo]

The pick rate in ranked for light is nearly zero right now, if it were viable it wouldn't be like that. The biggest problem is recon sense entirely negates the ability to quickly rotate or play stealthy, beyond that they will likely be buffed at some point as there is no way Embark are happy with a class that almost never gets used in Ranked

[sour bane]

Ranked solo Q Light player here, around mid Gold right now:

• Light and Heavy actually feel fairly balanced. They're not weak, but may feel "weak" because Mediums are that much more versatile, high DPS, and have high team utility
• no FPS game should have cross-map wall hacks as an ability. It's that simple. Lion from Siege, Bloodhound/Seer from Apex, UAV/AdvancedUAV/Sonar in CoD - none of these game's "wall hack" abilities are close to as strong and uncounterable as Recon Sense. As veteran BF devs, the decision to leave Recon Sense as it is is disappointing to say the least. I wish we can have some communication regarding this specific ability.
• FCAR has a bit too manageable of a recoil and a bit too high damage. Compared to the XP from Light, it has just a little less DPS power, on a class with 100 more HP
• 3x Medium running 3x Defib is akin to fighting 3v6 in any given team fight (more w/ Turret @ 200 HP). You need to take down not one, not two, but all three Mediums to guarantee a number's advantage. Not even Mercy when she was most strong with her Ultimate buff (she could rez 3-4 players in rapid succession) felt this overbearing. At least you only needed to kill one Mercy, not three.
• Turrets should be disabled when a Med dies
• RPG/Nuke nerfs feel good. You still die to them, but you are seeing it significantly less even as Light in Ranked.
• Light could use more team utility; in a team game like The Finals, being DPS-only feels a bit awkward. Glitch Grenade requires a coordinated 3-stack to take full advantage of. I'm not even asking for anything super strong, just give Light another gadget that offers more team utility other than "click left mouse button and aim for the head"

Overall, this game is super fun! It is very addicting, and I've dropped almost 100 hours on it so far. I think some tweaks would make this game not just fulfilling for casual players (which I think it's in a good spot with) but also sweaty ranked players

[signal root]

<@&1012034066876473384> feedback for the Discord but have you guys thought about having voice channels in the server for the LFG teams? I would love to have voice channels to quickly hop into with the teammates l squad up with!

[final mason]

There should be a throwable pan for light

[raven folio]

did anyone mention removing recon?

[normal shale]

no its perfectly balanced fr

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[opaque patio]

hi so there's a bug where i just can't shoot for like 10 seconds after heavy slam sometimes and my character still has their hands up with no gun

[oak lily]

ive got 60 hours and im done with it. i think maybe you're not doing your daily assignments?

[humble folio]

Please make the easy class more playable again. The middle class needs changes to the recon and to the shield with stick that drags way too blatantly. The heavy class needs a rework of the shield I have in mind to let grenades and objects fly through and that everyone can shoot from the inside out

[quick coyote]

I hate how this is true because in Ranked if you're on steam and you see the funny 🌐 icon and you look and see their kills it's always 0 to 1 kill on average. They can't even turn off crossplay right now even if it says off they can't just play among themselves either.

[edgy herald]

Light is far from the strongest, it's actually prob the weakest, it just has alot of really really really annoying abilities lol it needs buffs in some areas and nerfs in others. Same as heavy. But medium needs some rebalancing before either light or heavy are touched in major ways.

[icy aspen]

They fixed the sensitivity issue for controller which helps a little bit but it’s still in a really bad place. I’m confident that it is bugged

[exotic helm]

The Model 1887 is a competitive gun that's being held back by QoL features. If you guys ever end up adjusting it, I'd suggest something like a 20% reload buff and allowing players to reliably cancel the reload animation by shooting instead of swapping to another gadget, currently this there are use cases where a shot sometimes queues or has horrible input delay; I don't have Repo steps. The damage is fine, if you make it a consistent 2 pump (vs medium w/o HS) I imagine there will be shenanigans to follow. Currently the TTK, Fire Rate, and ammo capacity don't really justify how clunky it feels to use.

[wintry basin]

Riot Shield

Recently I've been playing some fun builds in quickplay and noticed some weird interactions with the riot shield while I was using it.

• The Light dagger can stab through the riot shield, Imo this shouldnt be possible.
• The Heavy sledgehammer does full damage when striking the riot shield, imo the damage should be reduced slightly because its striking the shield directly.

On a side note Id also like to add that I feel if you're removing your ability to attack at long range you should have protection for your feet with the shield at least if you're standing still. It is somewhat frustrating facing someone with the shield and they can just burst your feet before you can get near them with it but this could just be brought down to a skill issue on my part with it. Maybe it would be a QoL change for myself.
Id also like to note that the melee with the riot shield seems inconsistent at times, Sometimes it feels like my hits land perfectly but on other instances my hits look like they would hit but miss completely. Once aagin could be a complete skill issue on my part.

[real hollow]

"Since I started playing, I've only managed to join a tournament match once. Whenever I try, it takes over 5 minutes to find a server, and other game modes also take a long time to connect.

I play on PS5 with the region set to automatic. I would like to know the reason for this.

Detail: I've only managed to play the solo mode once as well."

[green smelt]

I understand, but I’m talking about the other thing that is problematic

[proud ocean]

Fcar isn’t that manageable on console. And you have to be very precise given the numbers of mags (just 20). I think overall it’s in a good spot.

[tepid violet]

Fcar on Console is so hard to master especially after the Aimassist nerf

[sudden spire]

Why does it close the report player form when the match ends. People always shout abuse right when we lose so thats when i fill out the report. But it always closes partway through once i get returned to the menu

[rose robin]

Nvm rethought it trash idea

[steep lance]

Game been crashing alot on PC since past couple updates

[gloomy plinth]

I wish the daily and weekly challenges would show up in the pause screen during a match, that way when you are waiting to respawn, you can check what you need to get done

[reef jasper]

this game is just mediums wall hacking each other

[daring fossil]

UI Fix suggestion. Contestant and Equipment options merged into Loadout. You pick your contestant as you would now. On the loadout tab, you ONLY pick loadout, no customization. There is a new Equipment button on the contestant screen, you equip skins, etc everything from here.

[calm patio]

sa türk var mı

[thin hinge]

DONT remove recon.... just CHANGE the radius and it's all fine... That's all it's needed. If we remove everything that makes this game unique we will kill the game. If we remove everything that is OP we will kill the game. Just changing the recon radius is enough.

Why not remove nukes too then? Everything just needs rework

[golden wraith]

@naive plume

[quick coyote]

On controller you just press Y again and it cancels reloading. Ever since the model nerf I just stopped using the gun completely. It barely does any damage to a turret now when a FCAR can just rip a turret apart even in close range. You can cancel reloading pretty good already on controller at least. FCAR is more accurate than the Model because of the nerf so many controller users are swapping to FCAR me included. But what I think most controller players don't know is, STOP HOLDING DOWN RT YOU MOOLAH . That's not how you use the FCAR on controller. In close range it's fine but stop missing your shots on purpose. If you don't hold it down the gun shoots straight on controller.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181451432549941308/1192917467509563392/TheFinalsModelGameplay1.mp4?ex=65bd46f7&is=65aad1f7&hm=ac6f90375e3b3e30222cbd414c8ec67df230e2102d6fd08a1e3d7914151790c2&

[hoary marten]

Increase XP gain or just make weekends a dubble xp event I think that will help a lot since the grind is hard and annoying at some times

[young minnow]

A heavy with sledgehammer can kill you through the wall???

[undone belfry]

Wut, it's the easiest gun to controll... try the Modell on console... without snap etc. Its trash. But well devs dont want to buff fun guns, but keep meta guns meta..

[exotic helm]

^ Also maybe adjust AA for Console players who have crossplay disabled

[quick coyote]

With or without crossplay. I stopped playing on ps5 cause its unbearable to shoot. Perhaps of they rework or fix a lot of things in season 2 ill return

[oak lily]

change the radius, make it so it cant be kept on at all times, and have some way to convey that information to other teammates so squads with comms aren't too advantaged over squads without them.
im thinking a directed radar pulse would fit all this pretty well

[reef jasper]

Squads with recon have an extremely unbalanced advantage over those without

Fix it for the love of gawd please fix it so this game can be fun again

[mint stream]

i think universal gun/gadget skins would be awesome, kinda sucks to have this cool looking metal rainbow skin that cant be used on anything else but the 3 starter weps

[sudden spire]

So what range is not the assault rifles' effective range? Is there any meaningful decision/reason to pick any other weapon?

[final mason]

There should be a pan for light that when thrown at, gives a bleeding or poison effect

[mighty wave]

Daily reminder that defib invulnerability needs removing from the game. You can stand behind someone and heal them while invuln and neither of you will be killable.

[quick coyote]

I feel like the devs are trying to make everyone move to FCAR. Before the update there was a diversity of weapons for controller but now it's dominated by the FCAR because of the changes they keep making to controller. FCAR was the least affected so it's a no brainer why many are going for that gun. Keyboard and mouse players were already going for that gun anyways but they are forcing console players to go for that gun. I'm forced to go medium because all of the people going recon sense. So I never have time to revive someone normally as any other class. They already know where I am so I just have to revive faster than they can run to me and hope I revive a heavy and heal them and hope that the heavy isn't a grenade launcher heavy. It's the only thing you can do. They see you when you spawn, when you revive, when you are across the map, through smoke, invisible. Having a light teammate is mostly useless because even if they do get a statue and try to run and hide to revive they can't because of recon sense. And reviving a light doesn't have many benefits if you revived a heavy or another medium.

[hard wasp]

Imagine thinking wallhacks make this game unique xD
What makes this game unique is the destructible environment with multi leveled buildings that give you the opportunity to engage a team from weird angles, using explosives to drop down levels and make interesting breaches. Literally all of that is nullified by recon. At the moment, the game is just a sad mix between cs and overwatch with everyone having a wallhack and an instant rez, flying barrels that still one shot, the nerf definitely did not fix the issue. I just had 7 deaths in a game all due to nukes.
The state of the game right now in ranked at least, is deplorble.

So in conclusion, the very thing (recon) that you say makes this game unique, ruins the actual unique features of the game.

[blazing snow]

Unfortunately I think I need to step away from this game until some real changes are made. Blatant cheaters are springing up again in ranked over the past few days, ranked matchmaking is fucked and puts your silver team against diamonds, nukes for some reason still exist in this game (seriously who the hell approves a practically silent, ranged AoE one shot?), and the defib invulnerability is also stupid as hell.

[quick coyote]

can we have an among us mode for imposter gameplay

[jagged vector]

Nerf small, there is no reason they should be able to kill so easy with the sword, they stun you and then just run around you hitting you with the sword, really makes me not want to play this game considering im lighting them up with my gun

[ancient hare]

If we can't rework recon entirely, can we at least disable the ability to Toggle it on and off? The fact that you can flip it on then off to save energy is indefensible. You basically always have it when you need it.

Requiring recon players to smartly time their ability is the least we can do imo

I find it hard to believe there's no internal data that backs up the community's sentiment on recon

[ivory locust]

How can I fix angelscript crash

[thin hinge]

@ancient hare imo this is all it's needed

[gloomy sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-balancing-the-finals-gif-1853460552427156863

[echo dawn]

the game crashed when going into another tier tournament match and gave me a 50 min suspension to put salt on the wound. ive been running the game great till now idk what happened

[wintry basin]

turning off XMP in your bios is one of many fixes so have a look on google theres usually a few other things to try beforehand

[oak lily]

So in conclusion, the very thing (recon) that you say makes this game unique, ruins the actual unique features of the game.
you're responding to the wrong post, little dude. i was saying how we the devs could change recon to make it less overpowered. tresdots was the one calling it unique.

in fact i actually said recon ruins the most fun aspects of the game here. #👂┇game-feedback message

but recon grenades and motion sensors can already do what recon senses do, and they don't ruin the fun because they are counterable. recon nades give you away. motion sensors can be avoided. recon senses just need to be more difficult to use, or have some easy counter, and then that should take care of the problem. i talked about potential fixes here too. #👂┇game-feedback message

[quartz girder]

Devs please fix voice chat on Xbox. It’s not working correctly.

[teal sky]

A 3 team mode with 5 players per team would be cool, I often have friends that want to join and 3 is kinda difficult for that

[tepid violet]

Remove recon senses, reduce the headshot damage from the Fcar (buff the Magazin from 20-25) Reduce the Nuke damage, remove moving platforms ffs😂,

And everyone here should TBag nooby Sword/flamethrow players and we’re good

[undone belfry]

Yeah current state of the game is very bad... but hey, New cosmetics! ....

[tiny grail]

fix throwing knife jump spread, and let hold alt fire charged a little to time release

[daring salmon]

yea game is dying as we speak, it'll end up like hyperscape if they dont fix this

[opaque mural]

Suggestions to make Light a solid pick for teamplay:

Remove/rework Recon senses, move sonar grenade to light (this reestablishes light as the 'recon/flanking' class and removes the class specialization that nullifies it's mobility advantage in lurking/roaming/figurine grabs for revives)

make glitch grenades detonate on impact (Light's ability to nullify enemy gadgets and specializations with the glitch grenade is highly inconsistent due to the unpredictable way in which grenades tend to bounce. Making them detonate on impact means he'll be far more effective at shutting out healing beams, defib spam, and shield use)

[bleak tinsel]

Lower the damn prices for cosmetics 💀

[quick coyote]

After 110 hours I'm throwing all my feedback in a single post

• Leaving a game shouldn't count as a Lost in the "Performance" tab stats basically don't matter and no one can see them but they skew the actual statistics, more statistics would be appreciated too. wins and loses with all classes for example.

• Not having a text chat on a game of this caliber is an embarrassment, make it hidden by default like voice chat, people are gonna be toxic, chat or not, there are countless of players that don't use VC either because they cant, don't have one or cant speak English very well, their only means of communications are removed.

• Not having MnK on console is dumb when you have crossplay ON by default, simply flag them as PC users and remove the option of turning off crossplay when using MnK

• Matchmaking shouldn't make you play with people WAY above or below your level, Solo players should queue with duos and other solo players, 3 stacks should play vs other 3 stacks and duos, maybe not doable in ranked, understandable, but is totally doable in Quick cash and bank it.

• Medium is Too good and has way too much utility, Light has no team utility whatsoever and cant perform his job properly vs a coordinated team.

• Allow us to rearrange the contestants in the selection screen.

• Fire in general needs a buff, is just way worse than gas in every way, the only reason people run fire gadgets is because it removes gas.

• Revolver shouldn't have such terrible accuracy, FCAR, AK and Lewis are overturned.

• APs turret shouldn't remove the grenades from the CL-40 and MGL42, they pretty much make it so you don't have a weapon so your only option is to run to the enemy and bash it to death, they also shouldn't destroy projectiles through walls

• Invisibility and Recon are inherently toxic to the game, you cant remove one without the other, my proposal is to make them a single use before going into cooldown, recon should work like sonar nades instead.

[wanton pasture]

recon senses should be something more akin to bloodhounds scan from apex rather than a complete wallhack switch

what about giving it multiple charges and removing its tracking ability, meaning you only see what happens during the time of the ping

maybe 360 degrees would be OP, so have it atleast scan infront of you.

and give it a short-ish cooldown as to not to gut it
no exact numbers i am not the one who should balance the game

[mint stream]

idea for recon nerf:

• 5-10 seconds or less active time, uncancellable
• longer recharge time & cannot be used before a full charge occurs
• nerfed range (duh) maybe SLIGHTLY better strength

[outer iron]

Kbm on console

Remove recon

Fix cheating problem

Nerf defib

Fix input lag for mouse

Fix the doors everyone keeps getting stuck on

[quick coyote]

Why the white version of the ballet outfit more than the battle pass version when the black version comes with more things for less price?

[obtuse garden]

Fr them things overpriced

[gloomy sapphire]

remove spawn protection on defib if u down and arent paying attention thats on you.

[cyan fractal]

If you can't connect to a tournament match you shouldn't get a suspension for it. A 30 minute penalty for leaving a match you didn't even connect to in the first place is wild.

[lilac pelican]

Yall Really,
And i mean really need to figure out how to get the Final Round Tournament to not spawn someone 300m away from the cashout after being wiped.

[split topaz]

Who thinks they should add a custom games. We’re you can play with your friends as you can only play trio atm

[restive hornet]

Remove the hackers

[sand sable]

Remove wallhack ability
Remove spawn protection from defib revives

[jagged vector]

Something needs to be done about cheaters with aim bot, just played a game and they were getting nothing but headshots from super far range

[normal turret]

Issue when queuing:
It seems this only applies to quick cash but sometimes when I've played a quick cash solo queue and then join a mate no matter what we queue into it'll always say quick cash on the search box on the top of the screen. Minor issue but maybe something to pay mind to as it might confuse players

[mint stream]

finally a GOOD suggestion

[twilit leaf]

wanna know an even better suggestion? remove recon.

[upbeat anvil]

scar is broken ggs

[thorn forge]

Does anyone know how to fix a black square on the left middle side of my screen

[tepid violet]

That’s dumb af.
You would make the light class too op. That’s the problem…the class is just bad cuz of recon senses. The Glitch Granate is Op and the Stungun is also very good. When you also give him Sonar…no please no.

[shell spear]

Hello, I am new to this server and I wanted to tell you if you can help me with the bug the finals with the session error tfla0002, I logged in to embark and nothing, can someone help me? thank you.

[oak lily]

No please! Come back! We need you ❤️🙏🥺
The game won't be the same without you.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

[rich fox]

recon senses is wild… can’t believe it wasn’t nerfed with the latest update.

[noble mist]

Please give us the option to disable melee weapon aim assist. It can really throw you off, sometimes it locks onto the wrong person, other times it jerks your riot shield out of the way and messes up your defense and swing. One time I had it peel me off of the guy I was chasing to turn damn near 90 degrees and whiff a swing on somebody else.

[thin hinge]

yes, true. but recon, destructible environment, and other stuff make the game unique. Even the nukes make them unique. The point here is not to remove everything. If you remove everything what's left in the game? The will have another game that is identical to all the others. What you want is rework imo

[lucid hamlet]

LMFAOO

[patent night]

Obviusly he's using a good gaming chair. Skill issue?

[mint stream]

you know what would be great? more in-depth stats on guns (i.e. damage, distance drop off, recoil, etc.)

[golden iron]

I don't think it should be entirely removed, but make the duration of invulnerability lower

[waxen vault]

How come i'm gold 4 and I am playing against a full team of top 200 players??

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[solid narwhal]

Add keyboard and mouse support back to the finals on console, you can add input matchmaking and add another section in the settings dedicated to keybinds and kbm settings to make it fair for non-kbm users
Please and thank you!

[livid oasis]

Rework Las Vegas or or or lower pick rate of this map ORRR add like 4 more maps to counteract the chance of getting Las Vegas please something this map is NOT it

[sonic flare]

Nobody want to talk about healing beam invulnerability but nerf defib 🤦‍♂️

[mighty wave]

healing beam isnt even that good. it takes 1 entire persons damage out of a fight and doesnt heal faster than you can kill the person being healed

[wanton dove]

I'm giving the **best **idea for recon sight nerf.
Remove it.

[quick dew]

can confirm i’m doing all dailies and most of the weeklys. 41hs in the finals according to my ps5

[tepid violet]

Just buy a Pc.

[fossil walrus]

I dislike these dumb responses and I haven't played on console since 2016.

[quick coyote]

Can we please dock XP from people that rage quit have way through the match. It's annoying as hell.

[keen tartan]

Full Linux support please! 🙏

[edgy herald]

Its light, but seriously? You're complaining about a sword? Like I get it's not completely trash and with skill can actually do some cool stuff but it's no where near as good as most guns. The guy has 150 hp and has to get close or yeet their entire body at you, just land 2 shots from your fully auto gun and they die 😂

[silver knot]

The issue is half the time it’s peoples game crashing or matchmaking bugging out and kicking players out instead of them just rage quitting

[daring fossil]

"10 Seconds!" round immediately ends

[tiny grail]

Let throwing knife alt fire be held for a short time to time release/ adjust jumping spread

[wide aspen]

EMBARK - cool anti-cheat software you guys use. I hope you aren’t paying them a lot of money for it (sorry re-upload in normal quality so you can actually see what is happening)

[fallow loom]

10 cheaters in 4 hours

[solid narwhal]

Hey, I appreciate your enthusiasm for PC gaming, but I’m afraid I can’t just buy a PC or a full gaming setup right now. It’s too expensive for me, and I have other things to spend my money on. Besides, I really enjoy playing on my console. It has great graphics, a large library of games, and an easy-to-use interface. I don’t think I need to switch to PC gaming to have fun. Maybe someday I’ll get a PC, but for now, I’m happy with what I have and so do many other console players bud.

[cunning stag]

Add MnK support support back on console or at least tell us if you won't add it back so we can stop waiting for it.

[jagged vector]

Not when they stun you and dash past you, while you’re getting shot at by other teams/ being done teamed by to lights

[viscid raft]

Console
• Fixed an issue that allowed Mouse and Keyboard to be enabled on some console

This definitely didnt go through correctly. im an xbox player and i have crossplay turned off, and i can say with certainty, through experience and watching some of my teammates' cams, that people still use mnk on xbox. Please fix.

[placid valley]

Hello world, another day to beg buff recon

[quick coyote]

I agree, recon needs more up time. Should last like 30 seconds.

[autumn iris]

Still too short. 45 seconds seems more reasonable.

[quick coyote]

I'm pretty sure they (Embark) have enough metrics per-player to know if this is the case. Patterns exist. Coincidentally, it always seems to happens in the third round when the team is last place. Players like this should be kicked or docked XP for wasting everyone's time.

[tepid violet]

I didn’t want to write it as a front. I played Rainbow for a long time and there are so many console player who played with MMK in console Lobby’s with AimAssist, Iam afraid of this shit and we see it right now…I turned off Crossplay and I have so many Pc Dudes in my lobby.

[fiery thorn]

it would be nice if XP gained would go to your weapon and gadgets if you've gotten to MAX LVL and are done with the BP. once you've max both of those XP is pretty much useless and is wasted, so it would be nice if it got sent to the weapons and gadgets. the weapon mastery grind is painful when I get around 1k xp per game and it takes 162k to level just the final mastery skin

[solid narwhal]

I'm afraid to tell you, but ain't nobody playing on kbm after they removed it. I think the reason why you can't stand kbm players, or literally even controller players is because you just don't have the right team, and you're just pushing the blame on us, instead of being absolutely miserable why don't you get some friends

@tepid violet what's the point youre trying to make? What I think you are trying to say is kbm players on console also have aim assist. But, that's wrong because before they removed kbm from the game aim assist didn't transfer to kbm players, it was just pure output from your mouse without any tracking whatsoever.

[dusky portal]

Add mouse and keyboard back to console and set crossplay to locked on when connected please

[daring fossil]

we need floating platform and elevated structures on vegas, and sandstorm on the other maps.

[glacial salmon]

Nope Recon is the worst ability in the game. No competition. Had a team literally spawn read our location

[quick coyote]

Do you really trust an algorithm looking at your leaving "patterns" to accomplish this? Just don't solo queue for tournaments/ranked, solves everything. If you don't have friends online at the time just lfg.

[viscid raft]

why is this something that one would want to happen

[lusty wagon]

fix the cloak and make the stun have a longer cooldown

[quick coyote]

If the data behind the algorithm is robust, and the code itself is not a spaghetti mess, than yes!

[placid valley]

You feel that shows that recon is still not strong enough, so you have reaction time. Buff recon so we can kill such players instantly without pain.

[indigo condor]

https://tenor.com/view/faizal-khamisa-faizal-khamisa-sportsnet-take-this-l-gif-27534119

[tepid violet]

You didn’t understand me right. The guys I’m „afraid“ off are people who using Cheater converter to play with MMK and the Controller Aimassist in Controllerlobbys. You just have to plug in the right device and you cheating the shit out of the lobby. MMK with Controller Aimassist. That’s why it isn’t allowed in much games. And yeah, in fact I have friends but you don’t have money to buy a Pc.

[solid narwhal]

The first bit of my last message was for another dude(Syntrax), not you, the second part was a message to you(i wasnt saying you have no friends).

But people can still use "cheater" converters on pc too right? Also yeah that is cheating and it should be fixed on any platform, not just console and it would still be a problem regardless of if they add mnk support

[fierce flume]

the devs should not listen to most of this community tbh. yall just cant have fun. (dont blame the recon for your lack of enjoyment in a game)

[fossil walrus]

Because some people don't have PCs and prefer to use raw input. Why are weirdos like you so against native mouse input for a crossplay game? Don't worry the devs can still cut them out of your controller only lobbies

[rapid ember]

Feedback: It's extremely frustrating constantly being matched with bronze players when playing as a Gold player. Doesn't really feel fun for either party i bet.
I'm really not sure whats up with ranked match making, but it doesn't really feel like ranked match making :/.

[quick coyote]

Considering the entire team in ranked gets punished for one person crashing and not being able to reconnect, I don't think these are the devs looking to spend time on a feature like this (nothing to do with an algorithin watching you, just shows bad practice/lack of understanding of players). And not ones I would trust to make it functional or accurate. Even if it was accurate, a crash would still end up getting punished because it eventually fits the pattern. With some people crashes WILL be the pattern it follows. You're just begging for random people crashing to get eventually punished for something outside of their control and want to play the game less. That's why games don't do anything like this.

Short of punishing people using the Leave/Exit button, there is no fair way to achieve this.

Just don't solo queue, it's so easy to fix your own problem instead of wanting to punish others.

[shell spear]

Hello, I am new to this server and I wanted to tell you if you can help me with the bug the finals with the session error tfla0002, I logged in to embark and nothing, can someone help me? thank you.

[autumn iris]

Make sure you don't have any special characters in your name just letters and numbers

[real marlin]

Fix rank mmr

[viscid raft]

because those of us who play with a specific input, would like to play against those with that specific input. it's abubdantly clear, through my own experience, that there are still mnk players in crossplay off xbox lobbies, who have multitudinous advantages over controller players, which include:
the ability to turn 180 or 360 in a milisecond

the ability to innately control recoil much better than controller

inherently better movement techs as a result of the first advantage.

[sharp belfry]

Please buff heavy/light so we can stop seeing so much MMM every single match

[sonic flare]

I don’t understand nerf AA on console now people want m&k on console? 💀💀

[glacial salmon]

Lower the recoil on the LH1, like literally no point in for such a high recoil with such a low health pool while every other class has easier precision weapons.

[placid valley]

I play on pc, but I have totally no idea why they don't let console players use mnk lol

[spiral merlin]

WE (1000's of us) WANT MNK ON CONSOL JUST PUT US IN PC LOBBYS

[solid narwhal]

That's why they should add input based matchmaking to make it fair for everyone and keep it so that controller players play with other controller players and kbm players play with other kbm players. Or they could buff the AA...

[tepid violet]

@solid narwhal Im sorry what I said against you. I just wanted to tell that there is a reason why they blocked this feature cuz of the cheater converter. These things are nearly undetectable even in more popular games like Fortnite. And more and more people using this shit. Atm is the best strategy to block the Feature what is hard for you (the fair players) but good for every other console player who just want to have fun.

[fossil walrus]

XIM aren't the same as native input. Native input has been taken out so any person "on mnk" is on a converter. So you're talking about a completely unrelated thing and downing people who want native input.

Native input wouldn't be in your controller only lobbies so literally nothing you said makes any sense in regards to the request. Thesaurus words don't make for a coherent and relevant response.

You console players for some reason want less features

@sonic flare mnk players wouldn't be in your lobbies "💀💀"

@placid valley it's because of all these low information players like you see here who don't understand that mnk players wouldn't be in controller only lobbies.

@tepid violet that same "cheating converter" works on pc. That has literally nothing to do with why they took it out of the game. XIMs are separate from native mnk.

[viscid raft]

@solid narwhal @fossil walrus my apologies, i've been misunderstanding yall's points. if embark were to make an input-dependent matchmaking system that actually worked, i'd be completely down for it. i also think they need to expand their cheat detection on xim and cronus tbh

[acoustic portal]

Please, please include BattlEye anti cheat for this game, the cheaters being rampant and it is annoying every match

[subtle barn]

After 200hrs and currently I'm on Diamond 3 now, I think devs should do this to improve the game:
1: Remove Recon Sense, this is the best way to balance it.
2: Healing Beam should be deploy a healing station, can heal AoE but slower. Whenever it goes to a gun fight, if the enemy team know how to play, they can kill the healed guy easily since it's 2v3.
3: There's still a C4 lost bug, deploy it on barrels but it lost to the ground, can't find it.
4: Heavy nerf is cool, it's balance, now Heavy has to depend on Explosion Barrels which don't spawn too much on the map, can think about increasing Red Barrel amounts a lil bit.
5: Improve the anti cheat or just create a whole new server for Chinese, I'm tired of those default costume + Chinese name players

[reef jasper]

Recon is doing A LOT more than countering cloak, it’s influencing the games play style. If you face a squad using recon without having one yourself… you are at an extreme disadvantage for the entire game no matter how good you are.

[gleaming tide]

Recon bad. pls remove. A map wide wall hack has no place in a first person shooter.

[sharp belfry]

This, and recon isn't even the main thing that keeps cloak in check. Cloak doesn't make you totally invisible and its loud af.

[rapid ember]

My eyes and ears counter cloak 😄

[abstract patio]

3000/3000 cap and all unlocks, not sure what can be done with this excess pointage but maybe convert max cap into in game coins?

[robust hatch]

They should add more gamemodes: tdm,capture the flag,party modes..etc

[mellow mortar]

Give us more loadouts!

[tepid violet]

Yeah but it’s much more common on Console and Pc players have the ability to counter it better than us. It doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating yeah you right.

[sinful agate]

Hello! Just a quick feedback : accidentally hitting a team mate with the RPG (because some of them like to appear out of nowhere like a magician right when you shoot) shouldn’t do as much damage as that… because sometimes you’re already low hp and it kills you. I know we all should look around before shooting but sometimes it’s hard to anticipate the random movements of teammates that aren’t on your screen… thank you for reading this! Everything else is definitely fine to me. Love the game!

[fossil walrus]

But that's the thing. PC players can counter it better because we use raw input. Console players have the capability with mnk and also gyro but when people bring up either it always gets backlash. I think both should be basic features on every game. That way you could compete with mnk players and AA wouldn't need to be strong. Gyro doesn't need it at all. I think that would be more fun for everyone.

[timid gazelle]

Can there be a team mode that if you get elongated you stay eliminated so you have to play careful

[sharp belfry]

They shouldn't do anything before they at least provide comment on the state of balance regarding recon sense and Mediums.

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[rigid shale]

💥 grenade launchers should deal damage that counts towards quests calling for damage dealt with grenades 💥

[gleaming tide]

That's actually such a great idea.

When you get to 3000vrs you get like 50/25 premium coins, it would encourage alot more play time and add activity to the game knowing you can grind for ingame content.

[glacial salmon]

Silver elo and this team rose to the final match just hunting us down with Recon. Nto mention especially their top player throwing grenades exactly at our feets and hitting every shot in his sight. Either cheating or SBMM striking again so hard. NERF RECON

[real marlin]

I just randomly lost 2k fame points?!??!???! L game tbh

[robust hatch]

What's wrong with them I'm just asking cuz I didn't have much time to play the game

[gray stratus]

teamed up with two friends that play on ps5 (i'm on pc) and we were only able to talk in game only and not in the lobby. is anyone else getting that bug?

[young drum]

my cpu temps hitting 100 C just sitting in the lobby. a lot of people are having problems with running the game. is the problem because of the optimization or is it solely because of dx12

[timid reef]

Can we get some word from the dev team about balance concerns? the radio silence is wild, and was a huge reason that OW died

[reef jasper]

Remove recon

[placid valley]

lmao

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

[tepid violet]

The game would be great if they do some small changes, Remove recon sense and lower the headshot damage from the Fcar, reduce the duration of gas mines, reduce the duration of the glitch Granate, reduce nuke damage and do what @solid narwhal said and we are fine in my opinion

And everyone should TBag toxic sword or flamethrower dudes😂😂

[rapid ember]

I'm on PC and I play with a friend of mine and he uses the PS discord app, i'd suggest giving that a go, we've never used in game coms.

[sharp belfry]

Recon sense is wall hacks which were just "nerfed" while light and heavy were actually nerfed. This has lead to nearly every game consisting of MMM teams using recon sense and its just super not fun to play against. Playing anything but that is a chore.

[glacial salmon]

remove recon, not a skill cap ability, doing every recon user a favor and helping you regain your senses

[robust hatch]

Oh

[kindred jewel]

Can we get custom team names instead of generated ones? I would love to hear the announcers say the “meat beaters have started a cash out” 🦅🇺🇸

[rustic crescent]

Remove legal wall hacks ong

[tepid violet]

„The Nazis respawned“💀💀🇩🇪

[gray stratus]

unfortunately they're discord newbs and don't fuck with it but i'll try to work something out with them.

[sharp belfry]

Lol needing to use recon sense is a skill issue

[faint sundial]

Can yall please make more cat pets of different looks to them? I have a full black cat and I'd love to have a shoulder pet that looks more like her than the conspirakitten lol

[harsh trail]

(missed a couple of days, sorry! been on palworld 😅 )

day 2️⃣6️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives bug fix/balance patch to make them a viable weapon option

the current throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior. some things i think could be done to resolve this issue:

🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 tighten spread of knives while sliding/sprinting (as they’re wildly inaccurate currently, it almost feels unintended)
🔪 allow right click to be held

please show some love to this weapon embark! i will not stop until we get something, i am begging. see you all on day 27!

[thorn elbow]

give the option to let me only buy one skin and not the whole set for 15 bucks

[quick coyote]

Time for a rematch on the World Stage.

[untold cliff]

typing furiously

[sour bane]

Ranked solo Q Light player here, around mid Gold right now:

• Light and Heavy actually feel fairly balanced. They're not weak, but may feel "weak" because Mediums are that much more versatile, high DPS, and have high team utility
• no FPS game should have cross-map wall hacks as an ability. It's that simple. Lion from Siege, Bloodhound/Seer from Apex, UAV/AdvancedUAV/Sonar in CoD - none of these game's "wall hack" abilities are close to as strong and uncounterable as Recon Sense. As veteran BF devs, the decision to leave Recon Sense as it is is disappointing to say the least. I wish we can have some communication regarding this specific ability.
• FCAR has a bit too manageable of a recoil and a bit too high damage. Compared to the XP from Light, it has just a little less DPS power, on a class with 100 more HP
• 3x Medium running 3x Defib is akin to fighting 3v6 in any given team fight (more w/ Turret @ 200 HP). You need to take down not one, not two, but all three Mediums to guarantee a number's advantage. Not even Mercy when she was most strong with her Ultimate buff (she could rez 3-4 players in rapid succession) felt this overbearing. At least you only needed to kill one Mercy, not three.
• Turrets should be disabled when a Med dies
• RPG/Nuke nerfs feel good. You still die to them, but you are seeing it significantly less even as Light in Ranked.
• Light could use more team utility; in a team game like The Finals, being DPS-only feels a bit awkward. Glitch Grenade requires a coordinated 3-stack to take full advantage of. I'm not even asking for anything super strong, just give Light another gadget that offers more team utility other than "click left mouse button and aim for the head"

Overall, this game is super fun! It is very addicting, and I've dropped almost 100 hours on it so far. I think some tweaks would make this game not just fulfilling for casual players (which I think it's in a good spot with) but also sweaty ranked players

[spiral merlin]

NEED MNK ON CONSOL JUST PUT MNK CONSOL PLAYERS WITH OTHER MNK PLAYERS ON EITHER PC OR CONSOL,

side note: i wish we could see if embark devs or people who can make decisions are seeing this, it would be nice to see dev responses to our feedback or at least have them do something to see if they notice (maybe react with a certain emoji idk)

[inner flax]

another day asking for 9 contestant slots. 3 classes with 3 specialties each. that should be 9 slots for each different play styles pls pls ty

[solid narwhal]

Nah, where is the dev feedback. Fr tho?

[near silo]

I think this would be an excellent system if the game ever had an esports/gameshow league. Something aired over the net or on TV, each team being able to submit a team name beforehand, being shout out by the announcers on air and actually building a name for themselves.
Shoot, it would need people 'filming' with spectator cams, so viewers can watch easier and proper highlight reals not just on the yt channel, but the potential is really there. This game is prime for it with its styling and mechanics, imagine if the players were fighting for real cash? $1 =$1. Seeing players deciding to play it safe, even if they don't qualify or get greedy even if they are ahead. Imagine using IRL sponsors? Giving contestants exclusive customized cosmetics in-game based on them would be both funny and intentionally disturbing.

"Today's tournament is proudly sponsored by Raytheon! Building the futures weapons, today!" Perfectly reflecting our modern dystopia, in both a actual and black-humor kinda way.

Obviously this would only work after a while when the game is balanced properly, allowing for more diversity of play. Eg, c4 having more viable uses other than nukes, more of the roster of gadgets and abilities being viable, extension of firefights, more incentive to move around other than capping, etc.

[pseudo needle]

I shoved the last couple of days of Community feedback into an AI to summarize it (your welcome Embark):

Gameplay Glitches: Users reported glitches like a "ghost cashout box" falling through the map, indicating a need for better glitch handling​​.

Balance Issues: There's a broad consensus that the balancing in the recent patch has been poor, with users expressing the need for a hotfix or another patch soon​​.

Matchmaking and Party Issues: Complaints about party matchmaking errors and lack of a rejoining feature after crashes were common​​.

Weapon and Ability Balancing: Players called for buffs to underused weapons like throwing knives, daggers, grapples and revolver. There was also frustration over neglected weapons and abilities in favor of overused ones. Requests included adjusting aim assist on consoles​​.

Class Imbalances: Complaints about the Medium class being overpowered and the Heavy class being underpowered. Suggestions to rebalance Recon abilities and class-specific items were prevalent​​.

Recon Ability Concerns: Widespread dissatisfaction with the Recon ability, with users suggesting a rework or complete removal due to its overpowered nature​​.

Technical Issues: Users reported various technical problems, including high input lag, and a bug causing invisible guns​​.

Game Meta and Boring Gameplay: Concerns about a stale meta dominated by Medium class players using Recon sense, leading to predictable and less enjoyable gameplay​​.

Nerfing vs. Buffing Philosophy: A strong sentiment that the developers should focus more on buffing weaker elements instead of nerfing stronger ones to maintain the game's unique identity and fun factor​​.

Miscellaneous Suggestions: Various other suggestions included improving the sound engine, revising reward systems.

Balance Suggestions: Numerous specific balance suggestions were made, including reducing the FCAR's rate of fire, adjusting the range of the Recon sense, and nerfing or reworking the Defib ability​​.

[small marlin]

I think that instead of certain weapons having sights and some not having sights, I think that a leveling system where you can unlock sights for the gun would be really cool

[wild bobcat]

Well I wasn't gonna post this but I can't help it anymore. Just played a game where I was the only light. All 8 other players were medium. Don't worry they were all running FCars and turrets. This game isn't fun anymore. All the fun has been removed from this game. It sucks it was so much fun at launch. The sh1900 got a nerf so now it 3 shots mediums instead of 2. Wheres the logic LIGHTS HAVE 150 HP THE RISK IS NOT WORTH IT especially with where medium is currently. I'll say it as a light and a console player the AA nerf was a huge kick I'm the teeth. Not a person I know complained about AA console or PC. I know PC players who defend AA because it's harder to aim with your thumb then your entire arm this nerf objectively harmed this game. I can hardly play this game anymore and it sucks because it's genuinely a fun game and has done enough to be unique and different from all the other cookie cutter shooters out there. With the light and heavy classes in the states that they are with nerfs here and buffs to unused abilities/gadgets there. But only buffs or tweaks to the medium isn't fair. Fix the classes or get rid of them entirely. I'm tired of seeing the same stuff in every game fcar wielding mediums with turrets and gas mines. This game used to have every weapon viable if you were good with it not if the devs say this weapon is good and that weapon is too good. Idk these are just some thoughts. Feel free to add input but this is just what I'm thinking.

[spiral merlin]

and mnk on consol and input based matchmaking

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[dreamy latch]

Make recon a single medium-range sonar ping on a cooldown 🙏

[placid valley]

No more next patch, the game has been dying. Until they finally find out they are teaching players to use wallhack, the game is dead. Buff Recon

[sharp belfry]

Remember when everyone was mad cause all we saw was cloak lights with the shotty? I miss them now

[icy aspen]

Please please please fix aim assist to what it was after the nerf that was fine now it isn’t there it has left us

[modern crypt]

LET US CREATE CUSTOM GAMES

[foggy ginkgo]

Ahhh they crybabies continue

[gleaming tide]

🙏🎮 Hey Devs, we need to talk! 🎮🙏

❓ Can we PLEASE talk about the whole Recon Sense situation? ❓

👀 Look, we get it, intel is important, but do we really need a map wide wallhack in an FPS? 👀

🤔💬 Hear me out: What if, just maybe, we consider removing it? 💬🤔

[vagrant raptor]

remove recon or completely rework it

[odd harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-7050408340647147055

[icy aspen]

After the nerf another update came out which decreased aim assist even more it’s crazy

[foggy ginkgo]

Cry 😢

[sharp belfry]

Found the recon dependent

[barren geode]

We really need a set of Finals themed ringtones.
Including the infamous Ooo-Wee-Ooo-Wee Cashout stealing Alarm.

[modern sparrow]

***Finally some real feedback that isn't just shouting and complaining. Yes I agree.

They have to find ways to rework these things. Taking one or the other out of the game now is pointless and will encourage the spam and use of the other and if for what ever dumb reason they took both out I'm sure the people here will start to complain about something else and the cycle never ends.

Truth is everyone isn't going to be happy. But these two things do need reworks. I've mentioned before maybe recon could be more of a sonar ping that activates once or twice like a pulse then turns off, instead of giving real time information to the player at all times. And invis opacity is way too good they should make it so it's like halo camo where you are only 100% invis if you are staying still, when you are moving you are 50% visible, and when you crouch walk you could 20 or 30% visible.

Some simple reworks and tweaks would be enough tbh. And hey if people keep complaining well then let em complain then send em to another game lol.***

[hallow ruin]

R E M O V E W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[noble carbon]

remove wallhack the wallhack cheat is instantly op

[sonic flare]

Just take recon out theres no defending it and give these children there m&k on pc with input detection ofc

[vast quail]

Remove Recon

[calm orbit]

whenevere I close the game out, steam still says its running and i hit stop and exit game, It just continuously says "stopping" and I have to close steam with task manager. The finals is the only game that does this. any idea whats going on?

[gritty garnet]

a custom match option would be neat to play with friends :)

[plush grotto]

I think it’s just a steam issue, I have had that happen randomly

[upper citrus]

remove recon

[glacial salmon]

remove recon

[foggy ginkgo]

Recon crybabies

[sharp belfry]

remove recon

[shell lotus]

Add mnk support on console, there’s no reason why console can’t use both inputs the same way pc can in a CROSS PLAT game like cmon dev why do yall not do that?

[placid valley]

buff recon buff defib buff fcar

[odd harbor]

aim assist is completely gone after update 1.5.0 😪

[hardy orchid]

Steam Deck Support Please

[edgy wharf]

Embark I beg you make the game steam deck compatible I'll give you 2 dollars 😭😭😭😭

[random rain]

Anybody else get a weird bug where steam doesn't completely close The Finals?
I discovered it's been running (but not) the last 3 hours.

[abstract patio]

can the devs figure out the crash report handler basically bricks computers? when the game crashes it lags the FUCK outta my system and i have a high end computer that is mostly for computer animations/ rendiner blender or unreal 5. So weird.....

@random rain ive had that issue and it added like 10 hours to my total; play time

[quick coyote]

Nukes are still overpowered

[gleaming tide]

remove wallhack thx

[fiery terrace]

https://prnt.sc/MHLKmg5byCmb IntenseLeader#7856

[hallow ruin]

Personal thought about cloak ability(plz dont punch me):

I dunno if its my pc settings or something, but me and my friends (which we constantly play together) always find its soo easy to spot a cloaked person? (We dont run recon -> we run M(turet)L(cloak)M(Heal))

Like if the person using cloak is moving, the effect of glitch and outline is visible soooo strong that I dont get how people are complaining this much.

Like the thing about cloak is to be invisible in your peripheral vison, when u are focused on something else, but u can just die to this guy once and then just keep in mind that he will try to get a jump on u!

I feel like cloak is fine as it is right now.

P.S. - remove recon

[harsh trail]

remove recon

[placid valley]

Buff recon when? We need to make sure the game only needs one class. So the balance team can finally dismiss, thanks.

[reef jasper]

only 3 lobbies with cheaters today!

(pathetic anti cheat btw)

[spiral merlin]

FR BRO, this is why the game is constantly loosing player, its such a shame because this game is extremely fun but they just neglect major things that make it just horrible to play
ex, no text chat
no mnk support on console
bad anticheat
no custom games
horrible metas, making people have to play a certain way or they will get absolutly demolished
weird bugs that shouldn't exist
and no dev feedback or acknowledgement

[shell lotus]

Mnk support for console on a cross platform game should be mandatory not optional, and especially after you nerf am assist the way yall did, there’s no reason pc can play with controller and mnk and consoles can’t, we should be past this problem

[trim swift]

For any devs in here. You need to fix having cross play off still puts PC players in the lobby. So annoying! Whole point of turning cross play off is so we don't have to play with pc players.

[rose surge]

Super disagree. Cloak is not OP especially in higher skill lobbies. You don't need recon to counter it. Anyone who complains about cloak is a dead giveaway to them being new to the game, having a crappy monitor, or just being bad.

[proven pelican]

text chat

nerf nukes (again)

limit teams to 1 spec each. no triple stack medi, turret, shield

fix melee aim assist

[fierce flume]

"limit teams to 1 spec each. no triple stack medi, turret, shield" NO!? WTF ARE YOU ON???????

[gray folio]

add kbm back to console plz

[vagrant raptor]

reduce the snipers body shot damage

[foggy ginkgo]

Dont use recon but your just no skilled garbage 🗑️