👂┇game-feedback

[cunning kernel]

legit just turn it off in settings tf

[languid breach]

if they do that i quit frl frl

[woven sand]

Forever 🖤🖤

[mighty briar]

Who else is having trouble with playing a game with friends in their party?

[uneven ermine]

🤚🏽

[green root]

did they fix aim assist yet

[sour bane]

Why does voice chat almost never work? I would leave and re-enter, and while I can hear my teammates talk, my voice chat doesn't go through to them

[verbal mason]

@green root what's wrong with aim assist?

[slim yoke]

Hello 🙂 i have Enjoyed the finals game i have 100hrs played, one thing i would like to see is a mode that isnt based on luck and waiting to 4th party the cashbox, the 12 player ffa is even worse because no amount of skill can actually secure you the win. Also i love playing with my friends! so i would love to see custom games in the future! and possibly smaller maps to acomadate that : )

[nocturne falcon]

nerf medium they have way too much power right now...

[quick coyote]

so they didn't do anything abvout the soloq ranked game .... still playing with silver and i'm plat 1 ....

[hot tartan]

How do you fix error code TFMR0100?? Can’t play cross play right now?

[mystic plinth]

everything black = blackface go protest or smth

[deft merlin]

RECON NEEDS TO BE REWORKED!

Gathered and brainstormed by a few people in the community, if Embark REALLY needs this Specialization in the Game it should be reworked into an Active Gadget rather than the current Togglable Specialization that just gives you straight up ESP.

Give it to Light by replacing the Thermal Vision, cause as that gadget stands its currently overshadowed by the rest of Light's kit.

The gadget would be a camera or a device of some kind with limited usages that recharge. Say 3 uses and they recharge. Instead of constantly seeing players position, it should be a ping of about 50-75m that marks the location they were pinged in. You can't shoot while having it out as well.

I think this would both simultaneously help to lessen the current Medium meta and give light a reconnaissance/intel gathering role since its already a roamer playstyle, Recon right now is a specialization that just promotes a very solo, deathmatch playstyle in a Team Base Objective oriented game that actively is killing the games sense of identity in creative freedom and player expression

Also I forgot, ought to replace it with a waaaay better and more team oriented specialization, cause in the current meta it's way less objective based and just a big deathmatch server

[placid valley]

They do, and I know what they are playing with, Medium Recon Fcar. Stop whining and play the class which devs wants you to play

[quaint vigil]

yeah for the love of god turn on auto respawn for solo bank it

[lime crescent]

Exactly. Remove AA on PC, remove crossplay, balance the game independently.

[wicked crest]

C4 on barrels still one shot...math is hard

[astral cipher]

also experiencing this issue

[tulip nimbus]

TFMR0100 error cant get it its been on and off al day please fix

[sharp belfry]

How about a buff to glitch grenades(like make them work at all) and let more classes use them?

[mystic kernel]

LINUX users, we should make a troubleshooting group, I would love more feedback ://

[finite dew]

Revert the update, this shit is gonna kill the game

[wanton quarry]

If you see that, it says a lot about you.

Embark - Fix AA on PS5

[stable oxide]

LF1 top 2000 player

[fading yoke]

I am so sick and tired playing against 3 mediums with recon senses every single ranked match. Meta is STALE. https://i.imgur.com/iptfVb1.jpeg recon senses needs a complete rework

[candid flame]

🗣️

[noble nimbus]

I agree with aesthesis. Impossible to flank a coordinated sweat fest, 3 Medium running recon... AND defibs. Defibs also need nerfed, very boring to be in a 1v1 and within seconds it's back to a 1v3 with 2 of them being invincible for seconds 🙄 Recon definitely needs a nerf, more than this patch gave. Constant wall hacks is not fun.

[languid breach]

If you remove AA on pc all the roller players are gonna play a different game

[nocturne falcon]

rework recon please its impossible to play the game with everyone using soft wall hacks it just shouldnt be a thing, replace recon with defibs as a spec

[wind forge]

At the very least I hope you guys are planning to add new weapons and gadgets to all classes next season to shake up the meta for all these changes and nerfs.

Why the game was balanced pre-patch:
-We enjoyed overpowered nukes as a heavy despite other classes hating it.
-We hated invis lights and stun guns but as a light player that's all you found joy in.
-Medium most balanced class pre patch is now most OP class post patch.

Changes only shift the gameplay to an influx of medium players now. Not complaining since you guys are way better than Respawn in addressing fixes, but hope there's better things to look forward to in the future in terms of combat and game modes.

[edgy lotus]

let me leave THE SECOND the game ends. i do not want to sit around to hear about other people winning

[spiral merlin]

absolutly not why would you remove crossplay, this will just seperate the comunity and prevent alot of people from playing with their friends, just seperate mnk and controller players

[lime crescent]

I don’t need console peeps to ruin my fun. Please put them I box, put a lid on it and send them somewhere.

[misty heath]

I've never experienced an invincibility as a medium with the defibs. I always die when using them and my team mate always gets slaughtered immediately after getting revived.

[tiny grail]

I just unlocked recon and realized... that you can toggle it on and off? so you use it in parts such that you can check where literally everyone is essentially whenever you want, you just can't leave it on. It's more than a little crazy.

[native jewel]

Are servers down

[glacial salmon]

God GAS should not go through surfaces and do damage.

[teal thistle]

yes but it takes a fat chunk each activation

[livid oasis]

It should take a few seconds to take effect like a choking sound effect for a like 5 seconds then do damage or sumthin idk it is op asf rn it does way too much damage

[sharp belfry]

That's not how gas works

[cursive cloak]

There's should be more healing than jus mediums, like little tf2 pickups. You could do branding stuff too, like an ospooze energy drink pickup for 25 health. or more gadgets

[cunning kernel]

[CLOAKING DEVICE SHOULD BE A COOLDOWN BASED ABILITY NOT TOGGLE ]

[cloud jungle]

RECON NEEDS TO BE REWORKED

[rocky verge]

Why tho…

[shut spire]

because light user wants the counter (recon sense) of invis to be cooldown based, so yeah invis on cooldown based too. its balanced

@placid valley then find another way to balance recon sense, not by changing it into cooldown based if invis didnt wanna be cooldown based, its a invis counter after all

[celest summit]

I can't play with friends, it always says matchmaking failed. Anyone knows why?

[bleak vector]

thank you for keeping the wall hacks (recon senses) in the game. it makes me, a shit player, great.

[placid valley]

if invis on cooldown based then it shouldn't be stopped when getting damage. Otherwise one shotgun or smoke will simply destroy the feature

[compact wharf]

Can't play with new update. FIX!!!!!

[tepid hatch]

???

[oak kernel]

I think a large issue that's still not being addressed along with all the other stuff is gun sight visual recoil, alignment, and feel.

The pistol is very frustrating for me because to fire at the max firerate because I have to cover my screen with the body of the pistol while mashing left click. The recoil and bullets barely follow the sights at all since all bullets are fired at the center of the screen, meaning all the visual recoil is entirely pointless and distracting. The LH1 has this issue to a much lesser extent, but I still don't like how the visual recoil feels personally. I feel like the revolver on medium also has this issue? The act of aiming with these guns is simply unpleasant for me - despite me loving their archetypes. You can get around it by pacing your shots of course, but I feel that wasn't the intention of the devs here because they patched the sniper's same sight issues after the OB. If the guns are meant to block vision and take forever to reset to center to make it harder to shoot at the max bpm, then color me surprised. If the bullets actually followed the sights, or the guns bounced around a bit less, I think these guns would feel more consistent to use and be more fun to use for everyone.

For some other issues and complaints; the KP gets misaligned significantly enough when moving left and right that you have to aim to the left/right of the chevron. The revolver has bullet spread when moving and standing still - for some ungodly reason. Headshot ranges aren't disclosed to the players anywhere - and I feel like they've defo been shadow changed a few times on some guns (M60, I'm looking at you) since I've tested them since the OB once I found out they exist.

You can kind of get around this stuff by aiming with the hitmarkers, but that disproportionally gives way more power to automatic guns imo. People use 3rd party crosshairs as well - which I personally consider a form of cheating - but they shouldn't feel like they need to.

[stone crown]

1. Verify game files
2. Check GPU drivers for updates
3. Try running DirectX11
4. Buy new graphics card

[pastel plaza]

The matchmaking in this game is crazy. Feels like literally every game I look at the scoreboard and one team destroys the other 2, doing about 4 times better than any other team. Why is it always like this?? I’m not going crazy

[tired belfry]

I really enjoyed tonight's gameplay with nukes not killing me every time a heavy respawned it was refreshing to have actual gunfights again.

|| I was playing heavy ||

[humble pawn]

The Hide UI key F12 should be changed because that's the Steam screenshot key, so you have to take an extra screenshot to bring the UI back.

[misty heath]

For the people that might be having trouble loading in, you might have to update your drivers if playing on PC. Might help

[wicked crest]

Half my bullets aren't registering, is this normal for this game?

[quick coyote]

I feel like medium needs to be buffed next patch. I still see too many lights and heavy's in ranked that ruin my run so I think medium should be strong enough to compensate. Maybe buff FCAR so that it has a faster ttk?

Alternatively, I think there should be a way that if you get two lights on your team you can quit without penalty in ranked.

[limber juniper]

Ok ok but what about xbox

[wraith wharf]

I cant open the game it keeps saying certificate check failed, i cant seem to fix it nothing works

[lofty bough]

Can we get ranked skill based matchmaking please

[rose surge]

Be careful, I'm not sure if the AI bots that filter these discussions can detect sarcasm.

[real marlin]

Fix mmr I have bronze teammates as gold who suck

[primal marlin]

Even though VC is on by default now, I have to turn it off and then back on for it to actually work

[crisp hull]

do u also suck tho?

[cloud stream]

@hazy willow Please remove randomized weapon bloom. Please buff light class in general (undo cloak nerf?)
Also please make glitch grenades rupture on impact thx

[echo lynx]

Is anyone else having issues with matchmaking failing with friends? How do I fix Error: TFMR0100

[finite dew]

Heavy should be able to play stop nerfing it into oblivion

[fleet flame]

why did they take m&k support of the finals!?!?

[shut spire]

check announcement bro, they are in it

[fallow cypress]

bro said undo cloak nerf NAAH

[bleak vector]

Day 1 of asking for wall hacks (recon senses) to be removed from the game

[placid valley]

Cloak nerf is fine, but light needs more hp to counter the nerf

[solid totem]

they should nerf defibrilator, ive played a lot of ranked matches and i think that there is no point in killing everyone but one medium in the opponents team so he can just come and rez everyone like if he was a god, they should make the cooldown longer or something to make it more balanced

[runic stump]

So, i loaded into 2 game modes at the same time....i loaded into quick cash, attempted to swap to bank it as the time ran out. Loaded into quick cash, played for like 5 seconds then got booted and put into bank it immediately. Solo bank it i mean.

[quick coyote]

Need loadout change mid rank game.

[heady forum]

I think they should implement the keyboard and mouse on consoles, I mean it worked well, it already had the keys assigned to all the mechanics and functions, but they removed it in the last patch, I don't see the reason why to do it since when playing with keyboard and mouse we didn't have aim assist or something similar and the option to put Cross play wouldn't make much sense in my opinion.

[rose surge]

Medium recon isn't good enough. In order to make it balanced, it should come with the ability to insta kill a random enemy once every 10 seconds. Then, it should also have laser eyes that can shoot through walls and kick targeted opponents out of the game. That way the recon sense can actually be useful.

[tepid hatch]

This games got the battlefield trait where it’s literally a BATTLE to try and get it open every time you wanna play

[orchid smelt]

think so

[misty heath]

Idk. I play on PC and sometimes when i have trouble with something, it's the drivers. Try the usual trouble shooting stuff, restart game or system. See if there is an update missing. But there could also be some bugs that came along with the update. That is a thing that happens, i'm sure they will fix it soon hopefully

[upper citrus]

please no. this isn’t overwatch i dont want counterswapping

[rustic scarab]

THE FUCKIONG JUMP PAD IS BUGGY WHEN IT GOES DOWN PLS FIX IT

[outer axle]

anyone having a problem where it says matchmaking cancelled by [Player Name] from your party when they didn't cancel

[placid valley]

Please don't nerf Recon. I have a friend used to use wall hack in CSGO. The day he played The Finals he surprisingly discovered that everyone found him faster than he did, and then he quited the game. This is the best Anti cheat system I've ever seen. Who cares the blue bear. Buff Recon, there are too many hackers around!

[wild axle]

Everyone is over reacting about the changes and the balance of Solo imo. I have been 100% pumped about the changes, they really helped further define everyone's roles in the game and smoothed a lot of the grievances I had.

I haven't seen a major impact on my cloaked gameplay. I have noticed I can't clear as many open stretches without risking someone catching me on the other side completely dry. This makes sense, and I have to think more about my ability rather than just spamming it on and off.

As a light main, everyone is being a big baby about Recon senses. Run goo grenades, or god forbid you pick up goo canister before you peak a corner. Flashes are awesome if you want to still push the player once you know where the are. Medium is losing out on either an automatic gun or arguably the strongest ability for a coordinated team in the game and the only source of healing in the game. Wallhacks as a game mechanic is not automatically broken, the game is designed around them.

Heavy, medium, and light feel exactly like the rock paper scissors they should be. Each excels in a specific type of fight. Each can reliably kill each other.

Solo has filled the hole I could feel in the game modes. Finally I can practice against real players without dragging other people down because I just unlocked the dagger and want to use it with the grappling hook for shits and giggles.

A++ on this update and I hope to see more like it.

[candid delta]

STILL LOSING GAMES THANK TO NUKE!

[real marlin]

Nope I dominate lobbies just hella annoying to have no sense tm8s

[winter sparrow]

please fix the extreme waiting times to get in to servers… +15 min is insane

[olive tree]

why cant i play tirros right now

[tired belfry]

You're sensible and handsome and I hope you have a wonderful night. I'm also enjoying the patch a ton. Recon might still need ironing out but I wouldn't revert a single one of these changes.

[upper coyote]

I played a lot during the beta and loved the game. But lately I have felt that the game was just less fun, mainly because of some issues with the movement system. I understand there must always be a limit but feel the current limit is to strict, I think this issue could be solved by reducing the friction on sliding and letting u slide any direction. doing this would allow movement players such as myself to have fun while not making it so that u need insane movement to win.

[plucky veldt]

game name change the mediums. RIP
disgusting patch.

[cold pilot]

the finals ❌️
the recon medium ✅️

[runic stump]

Im pretty sure its only a visual bug on my side but occasionally ill have perma invis even after death if i die while invisible

[sudden tangle]

hey embark, so, I'm sure you looked at success numbers of the 3 classes in a ranked setting before you released 1.5.0, I'm not doubting your competence one bit, but I just want to say that you might have made a slight mistake with how you attempted to balance things.

You see, even before heavy and light nerfs, medium was the absolute king of ranked. I mean, sure, nukes oneshotting people from across the map we're also very dominant, but medium scales extremely well with aim skill. This, combined with instant rezzes (with respawn protection!!), the best mobility, utility (aps, mines, tracking dart etc), incredible damage, and arguably the most game breaking OP ability ever: literal wallhacks, all made Medium the most OP class in ranked.

Funnily enough, when I woke up today, I was hoping your big, game changing balance patch would address this. Instead, you slightly nerf nukes (which mind you, still one shot quite well with red cannisters), don't do anything to Medium (?!) and hit L with three incredibly meaningful nerfs. Not only do you hit L with 3 meaningful nerfs, but you also do not compensate one bit. L has invisibility, which is an ability inherently frustrating when paired with high damage output (which is the literal identity of L: big damage/squishy), but in a ranked environment, this ability gets outskilled by coordination, good aim, and overall game sense, that it isn't even oppressive. Don't get me started on recon...

Anyway, you nerf invis, I'm like "fine".. guess you need to somehow balance L for the casual playerbase. Then you nerf stun gun and I'm like "okay.. two pretty fundamental components of what little L has to offer in ranked nerfed", but fair, 5s was a bit much, and 3,75 is still a decent amount of time for a CC. But then, I see the double barrel nerf, practically rendering saving grace, the one thing it could do that other classes couldn't do better, gone. Completely gutted. Why are you nerfing the weakest performing class so hard? WHY?!?!

[robust zealot]

any 1 else gotten meled to death by some 1 invisible in the practice range?

[earnest granite]

1.I love to play as the heavy class and now both heavy and light are unplayable,medium with the model 1887 is overpowered ,fix the heavy and the light

2.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

3.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

4.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

5.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

6 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[trim charm]

I don't know what happened, but this latest patch + Nvidia 546.65 drivers are not playing nice with each other.

I was getting well over 140fps before, now I'm getting between 30-90fps in the main menu alone.

[boreal fox]

Does anyone know why after the 1.5.0 update on the console I can no longer play with keyboard and mouse?

[calm lily]

Current Major Problems **[Post Patch Notes 1.5.0 Update] **(IMO): <@&1012034066876473384>

-contestant profile can be bugged out, cant unequip charm/sticker [fixed]
-game always kick you out one time in a match after a while after the game is first launched, then you never get kicked again[fixed]
-dagger attack animation can just disappear when attacking, very annoying as you cannot tell if it can hit
-unnecessary unmentioned "nerf" to dagger's secondary attack, can't hold anymore
-cash box can be stuck in the void and later disappear [fix status: unknown]
-underwhelming experience as light in ranked, not viable enough for a healthy use rate in high ranked, suggestion would be to prevent duplicate classes in ranked match if hard to balance (HML)
-unbalanced matchmaking, weird matchmaking logic that possibly puts solo-queue player with lowest ranked/new players if hidden rating is high
-solo-queue players having to fight against teams with communications
-nukes guaranteeing kills to any class with a huge aoe range[fixed]
-weirdly unbalanced respawning locations
-cheaters [fix status: unknown]
-no rewards to earn after finishing the battle pass and getting to max level (40)
-3000/3000 credits being useless after unlocking everything

[fallow cypress]

1.5.0 did just about nothing.

• hackers still rampant yet AHK is detected as hacking now. (I can't disable Alt-Tab ???)
• crashes supposedly "fixed" but they still happen.
• new bloom/spread bug introduced.
• still no loss forgiveness.
• spawning in where teams can instantly shoot you.
• ADS/shoot bug still exists.

[gritty tinsel]

hey embark, so, I'm sure you looked at success numbers of the 3 classes in a ranked setting before you released 1.5.0, I'm not doubting your competence one bit, but I just want to say that you might have made a slight mistake with how you attempted to balance things.

You see, even before heavy and light nerfs, medium was the absolute king of ranked. I mean, sure, nukes oneshotting people from across the map we're also very dominant, but medium scales extremely well with aim skill. This, combined with instant rezzes (with respawn protection!!), the best mobility, utility (aps, mines, tracking dart etc), incredible damage, and arguably the most game breaking OP ability ever: literal wallhacks, all made Medium the most OP class in ranked.

Funnily enough, when I woke up today, I was hoping your big, game changing balance patch would address this. Instead, you slightly nerf nukes (which mind you, still one shot quite well with red cannisters), don't do anything to Medium (?!) and hit L with three incredibly meaningful nerfs. Not only do you hit L with 3 meaningful nerfs, but you also do not compensate one bit. L has invisibility, which is an ability inherently frustrating when paired with high damage output (which is the literal identity of L: big damage/squishy), but in a ranked environment, this ability gets outskilled by coordination, good aim, and overall game sense, that it isn't even oppressive. Don't get me started on recon...

Anyway, you nerf invis, I'm like "fine".. guess you need to somehow balance L for the casual playerbase. Then you nerf stun gun and I'm like "okay.. two pretty fundamental components of what little L has to offer in ranked nerfed", but fair, 5s was a bit much, and 3,75 is still a decent amount of time for a CC. But then, I see the double barrel nerf, practically rendering saving grace, the one thing it could do that other classes couldn't do better, gone. Completely gutted. <@&1012034066876473384>

[celest tree]

New bank it mode idea: Elimination (or you can change it)

• Solos
• Open vaults and deposit like solo bank it
• Every minute, the lowest player on the leaderboard is eliminated

[edgy lotus]

what about players with tied scores or no cash?

[quick coyote]

PLS Hardware/IP-range/Account bans not just account.

Also does this seem balanced? 1.8 seconds kill time with an auto weapon 😕

[elder swallow]

Bro got evaporated

[winter sparrow]

because Embark hate their customers and “Fixed an issue that allowed Mouse and Keyboard to be enabled on some consoles” instead of adding support on all consoles like they promised before launch

[tired belfry]

I do not remember them promising M&K support on consoles, let alone prelaunch you got receipts for that?

[wraith hinge]

[bleak vector]

Hey I did the first win of the day daily on bank it, but didn't get credit. Is this expected?

[sour bane]

Triple M Recon + Defib meta in ranked right now.. Good job devs. Literally no one stays dead unless you wipe.. and everyone knows where you are at all times lmao. You really knocked it out the park with these balance changes! @peak nacelle

[sudden tangle]

if anyone from embark even reads this chat, please release 1.5.1 asap, because this meta is NOT FUN AT ALL. We need to see less M and more L in ranked. PLEASE!

[fathom pivot]

M&K again when?

[fallow cypress]

Totally lost faith in Embark.. gonna give the game at least a 3 month break.

[quick coyote]

Quick match no it’s literally an unfair advantage to be able to aim with your whole arm instead of using your thumbs like the majority of console

[wanton heron]

I said it before, I will say it again. Bank it needs a ranked or tournament mode, be it team or as I see now in solo. Being knocked out in second place most of the time is lame. Can we get rid of stragglers that lose and get in the way and add that to properly match make?

[frank nymph]

Input based match making lobbies.
Like a lot of people are suggesting. If your playing on M&K then it puts you in pc lobbies. No AA available there.

If your on controller, then console lobbies. AA available there.

But the main thing is to separate the lobbies. If console lobbies have AA, they should not cross into lobbies without AA.

Cannot queue if someone is playing on M&K, but others on Controller.

[cunning kernel]

LOL JUST PLAY ON PC WHY RU ON M&K ON CONSOLE

[cold pilot]

Im happy to see some newbie said: they nerf recon
XDD

[tired belfry]

I need to be on top of the chat meta I need to be on the bleeding edge. After they nerf recon and defib what are we complaining that embark hasn't done enough of yet next?

[sour bane]

Welcome to balance patch 1.5 where no one stays dead, everyone has perfect information, and every game is MMM in ranked! Embark absolutely NAILED this balance patch yo!

[wraith hinge]

No you’re 200% right, that’s why I want to play mnk, it’s obviously way better. Let me just play with other mnk players PLEASE, input based matchmaking is not a novel concept.
I play M&K on console because I prefer playing mouse and keyboard, and I'm not trying to drop $1000 on a gaming rig when the $300 Series S is 120 fps and runs the games I want to play anyways. I'm not sure I understand why people are against m&k on console if we're advocating for input based lobbies. Especially when they've already had m&k support it's so weird to "patch" it and remove a feature. I hope they fix this soon because I love the game and want to play but I'll have to take a break until they can fix that.

[sweet rain]

100% this unfortunately..I literally quit out of the first lobby when my mnk didn't work and I read the patch notes now I'm here. Never in my life would I ever go join a video games discord but this is incredible.. I'm at a total loss here. I personally can't use a controller to play fps games due to a disability but a mouse I can no problem. Haven't had so much fun with a game in so long I'm telling everyone I can about it. Now, I won't play, I can't play until this gets addressed

[daring fossil]

I played the alpha and all 3 betas. I had over 300 hours in the game before it came out. I wanted to play nothing else but this game. A couple weeks post-release im already getting bored, completed all the progress with nothing to keep me interested beside the game play.

yesterday I was excited for 1.5, today I don't even want to play. Keep adjusting those damage values and nerfing things into the ground while leaving the annoying ass metas to run wild. The freedom of choice and sand-box nature of the game from betas no longer exists, you either play what everyone else is playing, or you have a bad time.

There are dozens of other ways things can be adjusted without adjusting damage values, but that takes actual effort, Im losing faith in these devs. This game had/has a lot of promise, but the lack of actual meaningful changes to the game paint a different picture. I hope im wrong because I really loved this game. but it just seems like things constantly get nerfed/buffed the wrong way or too much, they say they don't balance based on feedback but that's exactly what seems to be happening. #makethefinalsgreatagain

[plucky veldt]

need nerf Recon Senses. fk really discusting patch.

[placid valley]

dead game. next one, we will release The Mediums soon.
#makethemediumsgreatforever

[quick coyote]

The Medium is a real game.

[plucky torrent]

You should get loss protection if both your teamates rage quit

[burnt coral]

Hi, I just updated my game and now everytime i load into a match i instantly crash, are there any fixes to this? I’m on pc and it was working just fine before the new patch.

[clever haven]

Had a leaver at the start of the match. 5 minutes into the match, I decide to leave as I knew I wasn't going to make it to the next round. Next thing I know, I lost 600 fame points just because I left a match with a leaver on my team.

Fix this crap.

[winter sparrow]

sure, buy me one and i’ll join the “master race”

[cunning kernel]

if you cant play on pc dont complain when they remove softcore cheating (m&k on console whilst others r on controller)

[tribal spoke]

Its a little concerning that the melee weapons have some of the lowest dps and longest ttk in the game... Doesnt sound right

[hard ether]

This change to stealth is inadequate. There is absolutely fucking nothing you can do to make fighting against an invisible enemy fun. Absolutely nothing. It's just not fun. It will always feel like complete and total bullshit to the person the receiving end 100% of the time because it's just really bad game design.

[sour bane]

one of the wildest nights of ranked in a fps game lol (this is mid gold). everyone ran mmm with recon, so everyone had perfect information about every team, everyone had wall hacks during fights, everyone knew where everyone wants, and no one stayed dead because of back to back defib because of mmm

embark truly truly out done themselves with this balance patch XDD i got to experience what an all hacker lobby feels like

[wanton heron]

got killed while in second place and the game had me stuck in camera mode in solo bank it.

[daring fossil]

working as intended. play medium, fcar, defib, recon sense. duh 🙄

[rancid skiff]

My friend has finally dragged me into play today. I am pleased to report the game is now just not fun to play. Thank you for an excellent patch.

[placid valley]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's perfectly balanced. every team now has the same fair players. No more worries about matching with sad light or heavy players anymore. We hope to nerf those two again until they totally vanished

[gloomy wraith]

All the ppl that are mad they cant use mnk on console i understand u wanna play mnk but its not fair for console either but yes u should be able to use mnk for console so we dont have to spend our life savings on a pc💀 cs i wanna play mnk aswel im controler

[wraith hinge]

Dude I just want to play the game, if they can get rid of the competitive disparity between inputs, that’s GREAT. I literally just want to play the game at all without buying an entire PC to do so. I’m leaving some constructive criticism so they can reach a larger player base, I don’t understand why you’re straw-manning what I’m saying into me wanting to whoop controller players. I’m not that good 😂. I could care less if I never play another controller player again, just let me play mnk players with my setup please

[woeful arch]

⚠️ We've all been fighting over a ghost cashout box for 2 min in game. Awesome glitch 😄 The cashbox fell through the floor on the map. It's indicating 1m below ground floor.

The game doesn't seen to end, the announcers are acting as if nothing is glitched, it's amazing. People left the game but I'm going to see what happens. A team cashed out 10k before the glitch so they should win, hopefully.

Yeah the team that cashed out before glitch won. That was a hilarious game, but hope not to see this glitch anymore.

💡 Suggestion : implement a check for the cashbox to make sure it's always above ground or else hard-reset it to a nearby location, just the way it does when it falls in the open area of the map? Because clearly it can fall under concrete type floor.

[stone crown]

Ya'll really don't need to keep spamming about the balancing issues with the new patch. Obviously, the Embark team has seen the poor response to the patch and are most likely working on a hotfix to push out in the next 12-24 hours and/or will be releasing another patch soon. Please chill lol 🙂

[ashen elbow]

bro parties are not working!! its always one person that can not see the searching and it says matchmaking canceled by player when we are all in a lobby?? please fix!

[wraith harness]

IS anybody having problems with it canceling the matchmaking?

[tepid hatch]

why is there no rejoining a match after crashing feature for casual

[dense canyon]

My friend and I are currently having that problem only as a party. We went to our individual games and found games easy. But as a party it just seems the match making gets canceled.

[broken lake]

yeah, then they didn't even buff throwing knives at all, or dagger. Two weapons people have been begging for buffs for since launch.

Or grapple, which sorely needs it, or dash, which also needs it, just not as much as grapple

[obsidian kettle]

also having this issue

[winter sparrow]

kbm isn’t cheating, aim assist is but that could easily be turned off when using keyboard and mouse, so stop whining and let people enjoy the game the way they can afford. not everyone can buy a 5-10k gaming rig just to play games

[cunning kernel]

u dont need 5-10k pcs to play the finals. your console $$$$ in pc money can run the finals

[molten dagger]

m and k for console please

[daring fossil]

in 2 weeks we'll get a patch decreasing the range of recon sense from endless to 200m, nukes will get more weight making them drop at your feet, RPG will do 50 damage, and invisibility will be changed to have a single cool down instead of a pool. They will also continue to ignore the grapple, throwing knives, dagger, riot shield, and all the other useless weapons and abilities, and buff all the weapons that are over-used. Oh, and then we'll get a bunch more $22 skin bundles, and the main menu UI will still be shit. It'll be great 🙄

[dark umbra]

Man this update was a bad decision considering how much chaos I am seeing here

[wise flame]

solo cashout 24 player mode

[manic aspen]

fix symbols, they take up a big potion of your screen
i couldn't see the stealer because of that defend symbol

[sand sable]

Love the balance updates but please fix aim assist on console its basically unplayable

[quick coyote]

Controller

[languid ridge]

Grateful that the elim name tags are now colored accordingly to the team on which the eliminated player belonged to. It would be nice though if when a team is depositing in bank it, the color of their team would appear on the letter of the deposit station thing instead of just red indicating that a team is depositing.

[waxen granite]

also nerf recon to the ground

[sweet rain]

Won't be back until mnk on console is supported again.. love this game to bits but I physically can't play it on a controller. Fixed incomes are a real thing and completely taking away an input that was there prior seems really quickly thought out. Cod allows me to broadcast I'm playing on an Xbox with a mnk prob puts me in mouse preferred lobbies as well. Can't be that hard to emulate here.

[quick coyote]

Kbm support on console

[humble tinsel]

Dead go boom is 0% fun

[native horizon]

Mnk on console fs

[undone belfry]

Holy moly man... so many k&m players on console... the patch did actually good for console...

[round nest]

what is this error code when matchmaking that doesn’t let us play the game

[wraith wharf]

I cant open the game it keeps saying certificate check failed, i cant seem to fix it nothing works

[dark umbra]

On pc I keep getting a login failed message, It has been for a week or so

[honest parcel]

Please for the love of god debuff light shotgun more it is still so op and just balance more stuff please

[rancid skiff]

Update: still playing and as a controller player I cannot hit shit. I really hope these devs know what they are doing, but somehow I suspect the opposite.

[minor gale]

I'm here literally just to complain and ask for S.O. Sleek assaultvest polyester greencamo to be compatible with watches in your style setup (call the clock in this case). I honestly am confused as to why this isn't compatible, seeing this is sorta common as a combination in several FPS games, and the main thing about my customization I really cared about the most is having this sort of visualization in my first person camera animations.

also I feel bad for lights. I don't understand how they're supposed to play. :(

[quick coyote]

Medium Medium Medium No more recon sense please.

[sour bane]

only recon med's are allowed in ranked from today on

[placid valley]

Ok, we've heard your request. Buff the shotgun of medium and nerf them from light and heavy. please be patient

[gloomy wraith]

Lobbies are glitched

[winter sparrow]

ok so buy me a pc then :)

[cunning kernel]

lol (dms)

[unique flume]

make the time it takes for defib to charge (as in the animation, not the cooldown) slightly longer

[quick coyote]

play on pc then wtf

[wraith hinge]

Why are people suggesting this like we have spare PCs lying around. If I did I wouldn’t be here asking for the update

[quick coyote]

Dev are you gonna patch today?
We have lots of thing to tell you.

mnk support on console

[devout geode]

Some folks can’t afford a pc

[plucky veldt]

embark want everything nerf? = why medium not nerf
recon & fcar fking OP

[wanton heron]

I feel like it's a bit lame to be stuck with only carrying 9000 coins, especially at the beginning, I am supposed to defend myself and not have the option to not pick up the coins when I slice someone up when it puts a target on my back?

[sonic spoke]

or enable transparency setting for Icons

[rancid skiff]

Honestly amazing to see how bigoted some people are. As though they just cannot grasp that not everyone drips money and can just afford a quality rig on top of everything else going on.

[daring fossil]

they also need to remove invincibility on revived players, but im sure instead the defib will get an extra charge, and increase the invincibility length. "cuz data showed it wasn't effective enough"

I literally can't be in here anymore, this game became such a meme and I can't not make jokes. been sitting at the main menu for 45 minutes trying to gain the courage to play a match and further plummet my k/d and w/l by playing a class/loadout I enjoyed but has been at a disadvantage since the game released.

[sudden marlin]

Yep

[mellow mortar]

Seriously make it so heavies have less health damgae when hit with there own RPG, If it cant 1 shot a light or medium their is no reason it should do 252 too himself.

Mediums are the strongest class hands down with the best guns, gadgets, utility, and diversity
Lights have cool mechanics, fast gameplay, satisfying movement, and powerful gun options like the XP-54, V9S, SH1900, and the SR84.

Heavies... They get a flamethrower and sheilds that are now basically made of plastic. Their grenade launcher is outshined by mediums, its shotgun is outshined by both mediums and lights, its lewis gun is outshined by the FCAR and ARGUABLY the AKM. The RPG basically is only good at ranged destruction and even then the random items you find around the map are better, they have the most limited grenade options, theyre C4 just got nerfed this patch making breaching charges arguably better cause of low cooldown and barely any less damage dome shielf only has 300 HP less than a god damn heavy the mesh sheild only has 1000 now and is likely to get nerfed again. and sledgehammer can now be literally backpedalled by any class (Still fun tho) oh I guess they get barricade so yay 1 item and 1 gun.

Before any idiot with parents that are related to eachother says skill diff. Nah I love playing heavy still cause he is fun but he is by far the worst class, everything unique to him has either been stolen or nerfed and his health means nothing, I end up playing more like a medium then a heavy especially on maps like vegas or monacco

[manic aspen]

how?

[reef jasper]

RECON FIX IDEA!!!

• Make it a pulse ability not a constant vision

[placid valley]

watch out your words. Medium is not included in everything. Medium is God. Medium dominates everything

[quick coyote]

Way Less Cheaters after Update, W

[sweet rain]

It's honestly pretty redundant, back when I was younger a gaming PC was costly but within reach. Now they fetch what a used car cost to run a game like this.. how is that an answer? How is removing an input from a console completely not a heavy handed response to a controller input based issue (rewasd aa exploit) mnk doesn't make me a god, it simply alows me to play the game as intended (mobility issues in my hands) when I was playing before it was clear there was no AA enabled so what gives? You could play them both interchangable which I can see becoming a pathway for exploit but a simple slider disabling input from the controller would solve this completely

[nocturne falcon]

Why did they decide to buff flame thrower

[sour bane]

uhh, what did the balance update do? these were my ranked matches tonight XD

[quick coyote]

Update when

[woeful juniper]

This is generally something I noticed with the Quick Cash game mode, if an enemy team captures the Cash Out station, I would think (and it would be more balanced in gameplay IMO) if the progress had to go down and then start the capture (Similar to how COD Domination works)

And this is mainly because it would make it more difficult to capture than an enemy team to swoop in at last second, eliminate all enemies there, then capture, since that generally makes it easier for other teams to get the cash out if they wait it out.

[quick coyote]

mnk support on console

[frail prawn]

they balanced some thing pretty good, but forgot to balance Medium class so... all the L and H classes got a couple good nerfs on their respective issues so now Recon Sight and medium class in general are the only things than wasnt touched at all, you can guess... now M its the only OP thing here since they nerfed the other classes

Im not gonna lie, Im happy about what things got nerfed since they really nerfed the most OP things to a point than there are no more that huge issue but... they should balance also the M class cuz now its the only non balanced class

[rigid void]

I turned off crossplay and it's noticeably better. Can't compete with MnK anymore. Queue times seem fine.

[gloomy wraith]

Aim assist on console isnt cheating u kbm players just dont understand its needed on console smh Crimsonchin lookin ass mfs go wash ur a**

[wanton heron]

In solo bank it, it gets weird to play sword after winning a while. Long range and turrets, I feel like there's a balance issue or I need a secondary short or long range or focus on throwables. Feels off, could be me. I May need to work on my build, idk.

[dark umbra]

I have a problem where I can’t talk with the in game voice chat

[fossil walrus]

Gyro. That's been the solution but no one on console wants to look into it. You can "use your whole arm" with gyro but it actually takes practice.

[potent meadow]

Maybe time to sell your console and play mnk on a pc. Goodbey!

[ashen elbow]

PARTIES ARE BROKEN WE ARE ALL IN LOBBY BUT CAN NOT PLAY

[languid ridge]

I’ve literally experienced 0% of what people are saying in here, not saying there aren’t any issues but I definitely haven’t come across any game breaking issues.

[unique flume]

make a toggle to have game audio when tabbed out, kinda annoying if youre queueing for a match and tab out to check something, but then dont hear you get into a match

[fleet flame]

M&K support for console, like they had it in the game for a time then decided to take it out???

[mellow mortar]

What good nerfs for heavy? the RPG does more damage to heavy THAN ANY ENEMY, On top of this the C4 had a LONG cooldown so why dont I get a lower cooldown for lower damage? Medium was always a powerful class arguably the best class. Now there is no argument Medium is best, light is cool, and heavys got the shortest god damn stick ever plucked from the smallest forest grove

[daring fossil]

man I love bounce padding when low gravity is on and being stuck in the air so long that I get beamed from 100+ m away by a medium with fcar with nothing I can do

[frank nymph]

Right...
So Imma just leave this here.

Embark should really stop nerfing things into the ground. The game has its own unique identity compared to the other shooters on the market.
With all the nerfs, it feels like the game is slowly losing its identity and uniqueness, making everything feel underwhelming. Well, if thats what your aiming for then thats good I guess.

Building destruction physics will probably be the only thing that will be left if they keep nerfing. Its a tight rope, and I hope embark can continue to keep the game alive to make it to season 2.

[sonic spoke]

just agreeing with you on the need to fix that. can't right now it could be something that is in a future patch as a "fix"

[quick coyote]

The finals =

[young drum]

Can't make everyone happy but after this update they've gained my trust.

[quick coyote]

Heavy needs nerf on solo bank it takes way to much damage compared to other bulids that is unfair advantage

[torpid venture]

is anyone else getting error code TFMR0100 when they que up for matchmaking

[frail prawn]

Why would you shoot an RPG to someone 1m away from you? they just reduced 10dmg to it so light class are no longer in the fear of the 350hp dude to one shot them any second, I think the damage reduction to the C4 was bad tbh, the weight change was good, but the dmg nerf wasn't necessary, hope it gets buffed again

and yes, Medium class needs nerfs

Recon Sight its just not okay, it could be kinda fine if it was a charge based worldwide recon pulse instead of what it is now
Idk how they nerfed a lot of weapons but forget about FCAR

At least I'm glad they buffed FlameThrower, seems pretty fun to use

and Light its not that good, a quick hp regen would be perfect for the class, so instead of the 10sec wait to start the regen, it could be 5sec, so the regen rate its the same but starts earlier on light class... that and the points I wrote on this msg #👂┇game-feedback message

[fluid raptor]

Bring back vault launch/superglide, grappling objects attached to barrels and a Version of the zipline jumps with a capped max speed. The game only profited from having all of these mechanics to make it more fun and I'd argue that it doesn't suffer competetively because of them either. Turret junping was op af tho. Also remove random events from ranked. They don't belong in a competetive gamemode.

[hearty hound]

remove reflections completely, i want more frames

[lapis pollen]

Don't ignore melee(especially dagger) and knives, they are the coolest thing in this game. If you want to attract people, you should buff them or at least make them playable in recent rank environment.

[fossil walrus]

The game obviously does need some optimizations. There also should be settings to turn things off so that it runs on lower end hardware for population reasons. Kind of like Fortnite Performance mode

[placid valley]

Play Riot Shield please. We are asking for another nerf to light because of so many hates.

[daring fossil]

embark needs to start buffing things to bring them in-line with other things instead of nerfing everything in the ground ruining the fun, freedom of choice and sandbox nature of the game.

[unborn tangle]

anyone else unable to join a party or have ppl join theirs? this is stupid

[sonic spoke]

i suspect that most of the calls for nerfing are associated with aim bots and no recoil. Dealing with hack and exploit players will likely resolve most issues. Tonight's play felt much better. Still some no recoil and aim bots but most don't do objective and lose the match.

[marble blade]

Every class has its ups and downs, to me it seems really balanced the way the game plays. Don't really get why ALOT of people are complaining about it. As stated it is a sandbox style game just have fun and fuck about

[proud ocean]

Please bring back 1.4.1 AIMING SETTINGS / CONFIG on console. And no, reverting zoom multiplier to 60 doesn’t feel like it was before the patch. Still feels higher then it used to be.

[mellow mortar]

RPG was nerfed twice. you can kill any class as light in 1.7 seconds with ease. RPG didnt need the nerf. If you dont want to play a glass cannon maybe dont play the glass cannon, in fact lights can be 1 shot by
⬤ Explosive mine
⬤ Propane tank carryable
⬤ C4
⬤ Breaching Charge (Unsure but am pretty sure)
⬤ Sledgehammer heavy attack
⬤ S1900 Meatshot
⬤ SR84
⬤ Throwing Daggers (Not technically a 1 shot but a 1 tap)
⬤ Frag grenades

also their is many more items that can 2 shot them

Everyone he put an X on my post. Is either just wrong, uneducated, or in denial of the facts

[plush hare]

Need a performance patch

[vernal girder]

This patch is turning out to be incredibly boring - 10/12 players in my last tournment lobby were FCAR/AK Mediums

[pine wharf]

The last two updates reset my video settings to Epic, which lag my game, so I have to reset back to Low

[solar sequoia]

I just wish the devs would listen more to everyone than just the angry light mains for feedback

[summer venture]

This guy dum dum fr

[quick coyote]

TRUE

[quartz glade]

Recon has got the be the most broken ability ever.

[frail prawn]

• Explosive mine doesnt one shot
• Propane tank, pretty fair if you manage to land that on a light since it only does 150dmg if tou get hit, not by the explosion
• C4, its fine since it is a trap, carreable tanks with C4 was pretty broken but now its gone for good so, it isnt an issue
• Breaching, Havent been killed with one never so I dont think so (edit, same as nades, it does one shot but only if you are literally on top of them, so its pretty fair)
• SledgeHammer HA, its literally the slowest attack in the game and its MELEE, light its so fast than it can run away from it easy
• S1900, yeah, im not happy about that, but the issue its not the damage but dispersion, it should have more dispersion and more dmg drop from long distances
• SR84... a headshot with a sniper... like... really...
• Throwing Daggers... the hardest weapon to use in the entire game which its also the worst weapon... at least it can kill lights (If you manage to HIT them with a so bad weapon)
• Frag, Im almost sure it doesnt one shot @daring fossil, Thanks for the info, I just tested it and it only one shots if you are literally on top of the nade so... its not an issue neither, even 1m away it deals 149, which its not a one shot

And yes, it is a light class, it should die faster, but the issue is not than but than the less hp doesnt get covered by nothing so the best aproach its an earlier hp regen so it has the same hp but a better position on its shot and run playstyle

[royal flume]

Why do I have cross play turned off but I still have globes in my lobbies? Also, why am I playing ranked but seeing everything from bronze to diamond in the same lobby? What is ranked about this?

[daring fossil]

can't have fun and fuck about when every class/loadout besides M fcar, recon, defib is at a disadvantage and you just get beamed from all angles unable to even run away because you die often 2 feet around a corner (shit interpolation). i rarely play heavy and I think the heavy nerfs today were fucking brain dead. when I play medium, I use revolver and it's so fucking hit or miss, it randomly misses even if you and the target are standing still, the iron sights often don't line up with the center of the screen so you miss even if it looks like you are bang on, and the terrible interpolation makes it so the players hitbox is not where the player appears to be making hitting moving targets complete RNG, they need to bring back OB revolver.

@mellow mortar breach charges will only kill a light if they are literally standing on it. if they are more than 2 feet away it does like half health.

as a light main, I will always advocate for RPG to one-shot lights, at least on direct hit. They could have nerfed it other ways instead of giving in to the whiners. The RPG's issue was being able to swap to and fire for free kill within 1 second. It needed a slower swap-to-fire speed, and a slower velocity so lights could actually attempt to react to it.

@frail prawn frag does one-shot lights, frag and breach charges are the only utility I have max level

[gleaming marsh]

This patch is pretty horrible with the 2 more unique classes being directly nerfed. Feels almost like the devs want to force a medium meta upon the game. Weapon bloom was an unnecessary addition. Overall feels horrible to play. Solo bank it is not it either.

[marble blade]

That is true, sometimes it does feel like a shit ton of meta. But on the other hand i get its bs but i don't have any problems with it what so ever cuz at the end of the day its a new game has som minor flaws in it but you can easily outplay 90% of people who use the meta loadout. For me that is atleast.

[plush hare]

Guys it's been 1 month since the game launch you guys expecting too much

[mellow mortar]

Explostive mine does kill just tested it.
Breaching does kill tested it but if your like 1.5 meters away from it you survive on half

Also its an rpg... Really? why should a light survive it. first nerf ehh whatever it somewhat needed it but not one shotting lights is mega dumb especially when it does 252 damage to self

[soft rain]

Hate to break it to you, but rank has nothing to do with ranked. Players are picked by global SBMM. So bronzes might face diamonds etc. This seriously needs to be adressed by Embark. Why play ranked if ranks dont matter lol.

[sour bane]

https://imgur.com/a/pGBAr3D ranked btw

Shit was hilarious. Everyone had recon senses. There was no hiding, every team knew where every team was at all times. Fights were even crazier cuz it was just wall hacks chasing wall hacks

Then you down a person and its immediately defibbed

[placid valley]

TIDE was still playing light, the nerf is not big enough. We still need some efforts

[quick coyote]

How can the devs be this short sighted?

[dark umbra]

I’m getting killed by other mediums using the same gun as me which is the akm faster than I can kill them without both headshoting

[olive epoch]

Solo bank it w 11 recon guy lul 😄

[daring fossil]

they've probably hit you 3 times before it even appears they started shooting, the interpolation is shit in this game.

[frail prawn]

Explosive mine doesnt kill a Light, not even if its literally on top

Nade only kills if you are on top

Breach is the same

Both breach and nade are 2 utiltys that had the little difference than none of them are instantaneous like the RPG (yes, a 1 sec animation, but its also long range and explodes on impact, not like the nade) so none of those one shots can be used as an instant tool to kill the lights like the rpg used to be, so yes, the rpg nerf was something good and it does have sense

@mellow mortar I cant believe than even with literal VIDEOS you cant accept than you are wrong lmao

[quick coyote]

I, for one, welcome our recon sense overlords.

[sinful gazelle]

Healing beam > Recon sense

😤 keep team safe. Be a support goblin

[unborn tangle]

this shit needs a performance patch the new patch has utterly dropped my performance

[pine needle]

The devs out to tick the chekbox for enemy teams to also see and hear player emotes and quips

Being stuck in an 1v1 with a cornered melee heavy with a mesh shield the best thing you can do is spam hello at one another

Shit would be hilarious tbh

[viral fern]

Second day in a row logging in that my win counter has gone backwards from the day before. Seriously has nobody else noticed this? Your stat tracking sucks.

[swift pulsar]

Nerf fcar & recon sense pls, triple mediums in every lobby now running it :/

[mellow mortar]

Ok. Well you can be wrong many people are.

[vernal girder]

Would love to see FCAR with slower rate of fire, increased hipfire bloom at the very least - something has to differentiate it from the AK

[deft wing]

I desperately hope they add MnK back to console, make it so if you use it you have to have crossplay on. Me and many others dont play FPS games with a controller and theres no reason to remove it. I've already uninstalled it and wont be reinstalling it unless MnK comes back

[visual basin]

I wish big guys couldn’t rocket themselves when a small comes running up and just one shot the small and it does a fraction of their health

[placid valley]

Easy! We buff the damage per bullet of Fcar to 140. now it's automatic RPG. Totally different from AKM. We will wipe out any crying babies standing for light and heavy classes.
#nevernerfmediumfcarandrecon

[sour bane]

Guys I think scoreboard is bugged in ranked, it's only showing one class for me, anyone else?

[reef jasper]

Recon:

• games are entirely too dependent on which teams have recon or not, the information gained from the ability is removing a lot of key elements from the game. Make it a pulse ability

DEFIB:

• the invulnerability off revival should be much shorter and not allow you to shoot your gun while invulnerable. Cooldown should be increased. Too many teams are abusing 3 mediums and ruining the ability to play diverse teams and win.

Light:
Problem with the new DB nerf is it’s literally just a smidge too much I think, 2 shots and 2 melee to kill 1 heavy is a little much

[latent bobcat]

Light are too op. you cant counter their glitch granade and stun wich both have no sense to exist because they give you free kills. With the latest update you cant kill light with explosives wich were the only things in capable of save u against a light that stun and glitch you. And why they buff again light weapons? They were the strongest weapons in the game, why they buffed them?

[green bison]

please for the love of god remove the aim assist given to all melee weapons, it's killed me so many times because it messes up my movement, i'll be trying to melee someone and dash behind them but instead i end up dashing to their side or right in front of them which i never wanted to do, it also completely ruins a backstab on the dagger sometimes because the aim assist changes your aim to move away from their back

[daring fossil]

I revolver lights when stunned on the regular, then teabag. Dip dip potato chip. also the light buffs only helped lights kill other lights

[solar sequoia]

They also nerfed them, buffed V9S by one damage and nerfed shotgun damage by 2 per pellet which is quite a bit for a shotgun

[frail prawn]

the issue wasn't really the DB damage but its range and dispersion, its okay to one shot if you need to be at 1m away, not 5m

agree with the Recon and Defib, should get those nerfs

[pine needle]

Can we just push the LH to deal 50dmg/bullet instead of pretending that buffing it from 45 to 47 and then 49 would change a damn thing?

[quick coyote]

Update letsgooooooo

[viral fern]

Can we please get separate audio slider options for ANNOUNCERS and for PLAYER CALLOUTS (Hype, Going cashout B, etc)

[reef jasper]

I think so too! Nerf the range not the damage. The issue people have is the distance it works from not how effective it is up close I’d say

[fresh shell]

Turrets are still annoyingly OP. Having them fire in bursts might be better to give some reaction time to them.

[hallow ruin]

When it was 45dmg:
4 body shots to kill light
6 body shots to kill medium
8 body shots to kill heavy

Now with 49 dmg
4 body shots to kill light
6 body shots to kill medium
8 body shots to kill heavy

They are pretending to buff XD

[royal flume]

They should probably look into that but in the meantime, try turning off aim assist when you’re using melee weapons?

[fallen mango]

2 schlechte Updates! Alleine die Zerstörung ist jetzt so übertrieben viel total nervig. Waffen werden totgepatched ein Witz ist das

[quick coyote]

mnk support on console

Recon Sense FCAR M M M

[plucky veldt]

recon sense + fcar every where = crazy OP
they want medium op = MMM MMM MMM MMM

[half pagoda]

Developer Api

[shell jacinth]

No longer one shots stop crying

[wary storm]

this! crossplay off but nothing but pc players

[daring fossil]

it 2 shots lights in the head now. like I said, the light buffs only helped lights kill other lights.

[proud ocean]

NEED FIXING: AIMING on console. It’s in a broken state right now. Revert to 1.4.1 settings. CROSSPLAY can’t be turned off. RECON may need some rework/balancing

[fresh shell]

If you lower the TTK of a gun enough that it gets drastic change in a 1v1, it's gonna become unbearable in a 3v3v3(v3)

[mild veldt]

Wait, crossplay cant be turned off, is that why there were some may consoles in PC matches

[shell jacinth]

Recon just fine where it is can we stop crying and actually try and get good at the game😩 only thing thats a pos is multi turret teams. Yall love drinking the copium juice

[lament minnow]

literally get ESP that bypasses EVERYTHING for an extended period of time wdym its fine where it is

[cunning ravine]

thats only valid for solo bank it, maybe they're telling you to play with your team more so your damage matters more?

[cosmic spear]

Aim assist on pc and console is completely turned off right now. Not working at all with any guns.

[subtle oak]

Is crossplay still broken? Don’t feel like playing against mnk players

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for either a themepark map or a film backlot map

[hot tartan]

Good riddance

[tawny oak]

Since you guys nerfed AA, why not nerf the no recoil shit when you scope in and moved your keys to the left or right repeatidly cause your gun to just remain in the same spot since it refreshes the recoil pattern with every press.

[potent meadow]

Indeed!!!!

[violet elbow]

Jitter aiming is a mechanic you have to learn and is skill based, aim assist is not

[terse slate]

You can work around that with macros again.. thats the issue..
edit: it was just switched from countering recoil pattern to A-D-A-D Pattern..

[waxen karma]

Nice video

[proud ocean]

They didn’t nerfed it. It’s just broken. They messed around with settings and now it’s unplayable. Waiting for a fix.

[shell jacinth]

if ur having issues with aim on console check your ads sensitivity for some reason it was adjusted im assuming because ratios changes this update and @lament minnow ur just bad bud keep chugging tht copium juice and get plenty of it 🥤 youll be needing it

[crystal cloak]

i just got shot through a dome shield 😂

[cosmic spear]

Did they announce any timeline for the fix? It physically doesn't work anymore. Completely off, and with the recoil on console being so intense, it's beyond unplayable

[lament minnow]

u play on roller+console enough said

[jagged ocean]

Still up for more bodyshapes for each class and more in depth-character custimisation + more feminine models and animations 😔

[digital snow]

It's still broken and no idea if they even gonna fix that. They only confirmed the bloom bug.

[steel fossil]

anyone know how to fix tmfr0100 error? cant queue it keeps getting cancelled

[latent bobcat]

I play ad M and H and i have to say that turrets are OP. I am still convinced that light is a stupid class because of glitch granades and stun gun that give you free kill without any counter maesure

[placid valley]

Delete heavy please, they always block the roads with stupid mines. I have nowhere to place my turret

[kind iron]

Place the turret on yourself then

[pliant crest]

fuck turrets use the healing beam and be a good opponent and teammate

[mellow mortar]

Mediums havent earned a single win since launch. Cry about if you dont agree

[quick coyote]

mnk support on console

[late warren]

The game does not start and shows an error. What to do?

[crimson ravine]

You're coping out of your existence. The AKM used to be the best short, medium and long range weapon in the beta. The gun was so good you could duel light snipers all beta lmfao and thats the only adjustment medium has gotten. Somehow defib got through and it has literal wallhacks even though all beta we told embark the same thing that walls are stupid op
nvm realized you can't english lol. we agree medium is broken

[tawny oak]

what? mediums are a bit op when you run 2H and 1M

[idle totem]

Literally played a ranked with 11 mediums recons and 1 guy that was on heavy. That was.. interesting

[noble steppe]

Post 1.5 update and I and my regulars are still encountering a 50% and higher number of extremely obvious aimbotters per round.

Not 50% of games. 50% of enemies in each game.

Your anti-cheat system is not working.

[rose robin]

Instead of removing keyboard and mouse off console can we have it as a option to use it. It's obviously there I used it when it was up and loved it. Maybe only allow it when cross play is enabled?

[midnight kelp]

After patch 1.4.1 FPS dropped by 40% due to increased CPU load. During the battle, the FPS falls to the bottom. How? How can a game be so broken after release? Players are waiting for your patches to be optimized. Thanks for your attention, if anyone on staff is even reading this

[placid valley]

it's working. it blocked me from opening the game because of a screen light control tool

[distant gulch]

My computer turns off when I play the game without reason. The temperature is excellent, I play other games without any problem, only this game. I tested the computer, the processor, the RAM, and even the graphics card, and there were no problems. The last solution I did was to delete the Steam local data folder. The game worked perfectly, I played for an hour, but when I came back to play after hours, the computer turned off and I don't know why. My computer specifications are Ryzen 5700x, 32GB RAM, 3200, RTX2070Super help me

[mellow mortar]

Nothing is more broken than FCAR Recon. It literally just in-game hacks. that and 2 mediums and 1 heavy just for the decent but not great shields makes the mediums into literal fucking tanks. If you dont agree with the literal evidence that you can see from loading up a game. You are coping cope, seethe, and mald baby boo.

[quick coyote]

bro is lost af

mnk support on console

[shut tartan]

based

[obtuse yew]

lower damage higher fire rate gun for medium class 🫰
something similar to the CAR 816 assault rifle

[hasty rampart]

Speaking the truth

[edgy urchin]

half the servers already punching the air right now, make them smash their monitors and remove light all together

[fleet meadow]

when devs are goinna fix problems with fkn threading?
I have 20 cores, and game using only 8 of them, which are energy-effective (non-performance) cores.
in other games when I have same issue, I can change core affinity via Task Manager, but because of EAC I can't do it for The Finals. Because of thi game running like 20 fps - it sucks dudes

[bright knoll]

game is now not fun to play with Heavy, only Mediums everywhere with recon, i think game is now on the way to die

[summer venture]

Is this satire

[subtle oak]

Please fix crossplay. And possibly aim assist after that.

[latent bobcat]

Sì many light players i see here

[olive epoch]

We have crossplay off but still get some pc players in the lobby?

[keen yarrow]

Uhhh, wha-

You know that this is a team-based game, right? And currently the composition meta is 2H/1M and 2M/1H. So it is a viable build depending on each player's loadout.

[placid valley]

No, meta is MMM

[vale lily]

Not really enjoying the changes made to heavy, specifically speaking of the barrel toss with c4. I'm not sure if this is a bug or something added in the recent patch and I was just not aware. It has changed the meta significantly, as most lobbies run triple medium to double medium with a light(maybe) now. It takes away the ability for the heavy to begin with an entry kill unless the red barrel is on hand. With you only being able to viably use 1 of the 3, you now have less destruction, less map reconstruction, and slower paced heavy based teams. With this game being as fast paced as it is, I think it hurts heavy played teams, at least at a casual to average ranked player level. I think this also makes the dog walker build very inferior to the builds mentioned above. Heavy currently, at a higher level at least, is very 1 kit dependent. If we're going to change c4 on barrels, then I think adding more to their kit allows them to be more versatile and useful. This also nerfs the usage of the orange and green barrels tremendously. I could see players stacking orange and green barrels in specific focal points for lures, but only for lower ranked players to fall for. With no SBMM, I guess this is a plausible plan of defense, but again, once SBMM is added(for the love of god add it please) then this will fall through the floor. I think lowering the damage of the c4 in itself, but keeping destruction ability the same with it would be the better overall move. Even lowering the overall damage of the barrel itself, I think would be a better move. Prior to this change, I really enjoyed the versatility in team selections, and now it feels very lopsided. I would like to add that if we're going with a triple medium build, then we need to make changes to defib. Fighting triple medium against triple medium is just boring and dragged out. A wipe of a triple medium team,feels so good, but can sometimes take upwards of 5/6 kills to complete.Sometimes the fights feels like an entire game

[undone belfry]

Nice. Pc players got what they wanted I see... thanks embark!! /s

@sour hollow yeah it feels like embark doesn't care anymore on console...

Crossplay is broken, you turn it off and its on, aim assist doesn't work or works unreliablely... not good console news.

[sour hollow]

What in the hell is going on with console aim?! Feels way different than before patch. Tried last night and again this morning and game straight up feels horrible to play now. Putting it down until hear of a fix to whatever’s been altered.

[pliant pagoda]

Another win 🏆

[subtle oak]

Please fix crossplay and aim assist on console.
Playing against mnk without any aim assist isn’t fun. 🥱

[obtuse yew]

i have 24 cores, now it makes sense why my CPU is very cold under 55 for gaming but my GPU is getting close to 76c
my friend has a 4070 and i have a 4090, and but we both have the 13900k i assume at 1440p such GPU's require the CPU to work more and if the game isnt utilizing it its kinda hard to get anything beyond 180fps or so

i hope this does get fixed.

[noble steppe]

Proposed Defibrillator nerf;

I would just make it so that if you get defibbed you should be 'glitched' for as long as you are invulnerable.

No switching to RPG's instantly, no defibbing the third team member whilst you're invulnerable, no instantly cloaking and scurrying off.

It's what 1.5 seconds or something? Would it be so unfair to be Glitched for 1.5 seconds?

[royal flume]

Check your settings. This happened to me as well and my zoom aim sensitivity was way higher than I usually have it which made my aim all over the place. For some reason the patch changed people’s settings as well as break most of the guns 🤷

[graceful sequoia]

Recon Senses Rework
Someone purpose on reddit that Recon Senses work like Bloodhunt scan in Apex Legends and this have a lot of sense. I think is the best way to balance a walhack hability. Instead of making it constant, just give it 1 or 2 pulses, like a giant scan grenade. I think it should be like a cone instead of a sphere, to force the player to use it with brain instead of spamming

[wintry basin]

There was a ping about this in #game-announcements theres a bug where the zoom sens multiplier is set to 120% randomly and you have to reset it.

[chrome verge]

there's still too many aimbotters

[tacit frigate]

how are u dealing with lights now that RPG is nerfed?

[sour hollow]

Yeah it’s not that. I reset my settings back to what they were. Still feels ass.

[quick coyote]

Because rewasd aimbot and xim still works and not bannable after 2 security patches, they give no poop

[proud ocean]

Resetting it to default still feels broken and higher compared to before the patch. They definitely screw something with settings and values.

[raven osprey]

hey embark i see youve revamped your daily contracts page but have you considered my proposal i did a while ago

[undone belfry]

The thing is... also on console it got worse. Not performance wise but efficiency wise...

My series x is turning so loud after the update. Like they changed something which requires to use more ressources now IG. Or just poor optimization.

Before the patch my xbox wasnt loud at all. And on other demanding games its never turning up that loud.

Does any other console player feel a difference in noise levels? Also its Winter and cold. I cannot imagine this in hot summer lol

[formal pasture]

After quiting a match (not torunament nor ranked) lobby with the same team I had just played with, I'm stuck on infinite search for a match. Someone know anything aboout this?

[rough skiff]

After the update, my game is not opening, what should I do?

[pliant rock]

please more optimization fixes I just want to run it at a constant 60

[plush plaza]

Give recon sight to light class so light is viable in competitive 🙂 also fits lights "scout" kit way better than mediums

This way all classes have their own value they bring to ranked games
Light = scout info and damage
Medium = sustain and support
Heavy = destruction and tank

[eager rivet]

We need gyroscope for controllers

[cosmic spear]

Console aim assist is off entirely. Regardless of whether or not you're playing crossplay. And turning off crossplay doesn't work either

[olive epoch]

Wtf first nerf AA and then put console players in the pc lobbys when crossplay settings is off. Thank you 🤡 fix u game. Remove recon. I go play cod

[quick coyote]

audio broken for person in stealth standing still does not make the stealth noise that it should just got screwed for that

[upper mortar]

I love how it doesn't let you do 5 missions for that extra exp

[woeful prairie]

Please reduce the reload time on the revolver to bring it more in line with the other weapons, it doesn't make sense to help damage shields a lot of the time because it's just a death sentence whereas the FCAR can mag dump all day pretty safely with it's substantially faster reload time. That combined with the fact that you typically need to be on full ammo before starting an duel so you're constantly reloading anyways regardless of accuracy. You give up at least 40% of your sustained damage potential (factoring in reload time) to run the revolver instead of the currently dominant FCAR.

[deft moth]

can we please get a "Join back your match?" option when our game crashes?

[rocky pollen]

I cannot play since i lag after everytime i use the dash ability ??

[rigid vessel]

Recon sens need a rework or remove and get something else

[quick coyote]

why

[primal marlin]

When you say whats up at the start to see if anyone has comms, and they wait until the last minute of overtime to finally say "we should work as a team" XD

[grim steeple]

Because info is very strong in FPS games.

[pale ice]

Skill issue

[tall herald]

ok the report function still needs some overhaul, but which bothers me more: there is a bug which is kind a weird, im making a group with my friends, start searching for a game and then it says that one of them quit the search... but noone did quite the search and most of the time the person "who ended" it, didnt have a timer for the search... its a quite common bug and most of the time its easy fixed with the one "who ended" leaves the group and rejoins, but sometimes he/she has to restart the game...

[dull elm]

It would be very nice to have a 'devs note' in the patch notes explaining the reasoning and why they chose it .
Overwatch has it and it's always very interesting to read and gives even more communication from devs to players

[loud silo]

what happen if like, the finals added capture the flag or sum like that

[desert sorrel]

LoginId:6b8933dc45fe1186c3b8f49848c6de8b
EpicAccountId:cfa0ca39e8c94ba584d65f80f5235b4b

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000d10

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

Discovery
runtime
runtime
ntdll
ntdll
kernel32
ntdll

[elfin hearth]

guys i need help i cant launch the game everytime i launch it it says connection lost TFLA0002

[naive apex]

hey embark your games not working

[stone crown]

Memory access issue.

1. Update GUP drivers
2. Verifty Game files
3. RUn game as ADMIN
4. search online

[cinder frost]

Can't join people groups

[sage bison]

As a medium player please fuckin nerf recon, this shit is so boring.

[mellow cape]

I need these asap:
option to hide hit markers
option to hide/fade/make less visible 3d objects like cashout position/player names... sometimes i can't see a s*it

[elfin hearth]

i need help

[chrome verge]

oh yeah static crosshair and/or the option to hide the crosshair blades would be nice

[warm hull]

and just like that, you have a dead game. You put wallhacks on cooldown and expect players to not get angry. Then you failed to listen and fix it so you have lost confidence. Prediction: game offline in two months

[uncut pier]

Try to verify the file in steam or reinstall. Check for potential conflicts with firewall maybe as it is related to connection, but I never heard such a problem

[gleaming geyser]

something seems off with medium players using revolver?? I have seen 2 players doing the same thing and it seems that they have 100% accuracy with it?? Anyone encounter this?? It feels like cheating especially they are racking above 20 kills, while the lobby was only around 5 kills???

[spark inlet]

Feedback/Idea - Can we makes Recon Sense for everyone?

Current problem : Recon sense makes medium players to get advantage against other team(especially against team who don't have no RS at all). They can pre-plan to when to attack, how to attack, or attack at all with their own preference. As @grim steeple said, info is very strong in FPS games. RS can counter many of light player's ability but got countered by less than none. Maybe glitch or smoke? RS know they are coming way before they comes.

Problem Analysis : Balancing by 'Deleting' RS are pointless and lame developing choice at current stage. People pick RS because they need it, not because other ability(Heal or Turret) are trash. And also, other information gadget - which is Tracker dart - are trash. If we are going to nerf/change RS, it needs to have viable option to diversify their strategy.

Possible Improvement :
Give information to everyone.
ex) Add a new UI

• to let players know enemy teams rough location on every 10/15s mark.
• to warn other players when people make noise(gun fire, explosion holding/shooting props)
• tells exact location when teams are not moving(which is camping)

And change RS into have a pros and cons.

• Reduce RS range and spacialise it to counter Cloaking(See trough invisibility) or fast movement like Grappling Hook or Evasive Dash by highlighting them.

Make other information gadget vaiable

• Tracking Dart SUCKS. While you have to risk yourself to hit the dart, only gain are few dmg and track only for 15 secs. Considering TTK of Finals, just shooting them are more fast and elegant solution.
• Sensor grenade nerfed too much. In comparison between CB or OB, range of pulse are too narrow and gone too fast. Rollback any one of two and make counter of it - like smoke or new item like signal jammer to cloak nearby teammate against recon ability. That would makes a fair game.

[proud ocean]

Aiming is in a broken state right now

[quick coyote]

doesnt work. This game have bad anti cheat

[kindred creek]

Buff the dagger or make it a secondary weapon already, how did it not even get a buff in the patch lmfao devs so out of sync

[manic aspen]

defib nerf idea, You cant move while charging defib

[quick coyote]

cant find a game searching for 20 mins already

[kindred nest]

recon and pre firing hahah

[void scarab]

RPG and 1 bullet

[slim karma]

I don't understand why people are saying heavy is bad or unviable?! Nuking was stupid op and needed to be toned down massively. But even without nukes, he's solid, he's got great defence and can set up fights in a favourable position. Lewis, except for the random spread they added, and SA12 are solid weapons. Flamethrower buff was pretty good and it's pretty powerful within its range. It feels too much of an exaggeration to say heavy was ruined, especailly with the changes they made to light.

[rough skiff]

Who is interested? I have a problem with the game. No one is calling back. I have been tagging for a few hours and wrote my problem again.

[opal leaf]

The Finals is another great example of why making a wallhack an ability in an FPS competitive game is completely stupid, remove this thing from the game ffs

[chrome basin]

Mediums = Easy mode

Medium class is easy mode I've said this since the beta and here is why:

1. Defibs With The Got Ya Mode: Mediums can revive folks with a 2-second 'can't touch this' bubble. It's like playing tag, but the other kid keeps yelling 'time-out' every time you're about to tag them back.

2. Healing Beam on Hyperdrive: Their healing beam works faster than I can say I hate myself. Seriously, it's like their health bar is on crack. Up down up down.

3. Recon Ability - Basically Espionage: Their recon is like having a GPS tracker on everyone and their mothers. It's less about skill and more about 'peekaboo, I already see you.'

4. FCAR Weapon - Point, Shoot, Repeat: This weapon's so easy to handle, it's like it comes with training wheels. Loads of damage, minimal effort.

Why We Can't Just Keep Quiet Anymore:

Look, I've been around the block (or arena) more times than I can count, and it's clear - Mediums are stealing the show, and not in a good way. We're here for a challenge, not a walk in the park.

So, What's the Fix?

1. Recon Rework: Let's make it a 3-charge pulse thing. Each pulse gives you and your team information on where people are for a few seconds but also generates a ping on where the pulse was initiated revealing the Medium's location.

2. Defibrillator Tweak: Drop the invincibility act. If you're revived you should be able to take damage.

3. *Healing Beam *: Make it more skilled. Players should face the player they are healing. The beam shouldn't be a mile long and have the ability to go through walls.

4. FCAR - Feel the Kick: Up the recoil especially on the mid and late stage ammo count.

I've said it since beta. Medium is the true broken class. It's just light and heavy have been the most vocal part.

[tough topaz]

Embark PLEASE bring back support for mouse and keyboard on the console!

[quick coyote]

PTT is not working anymore after patch. anyone else experiencing this?

[wanton root]

Bro wrote an essay just for it to be ignored

[limpid bolt]

Hello all, ty for this great game,
Where can I please leave a complaint or feedback?
In case it is here : Just played two ranked games in a row where the 3rd player was never selected (triple dot ...) and the 2nd player decided to afk-wait it out, vs full teams. Obviously, lost both, but also lost 80 fame for each of them. This doesn't feel fair, and I dare say it's bad for the player experience. Maybe there shouldn't be fame loss when matchmaking failed to get all 3 players, and/or maybe we should be allowed to leave the game and start a new one without repercussion.

[still island]

is it here i report a bug?

[tropic sequoia]

You really ruined the fun for me. Light is the weakest class already, nobody plays it in ranked and you nerf the cloak?

[nimble steppe]

☹️☹️☕

[mystic gyro]

We need to be paired up with whatever our ranks are and play against whatever our ranks are. I think it's stupid that I get two bronze players in a lobby where there are top 500s in the other team

[fleet coral]

cheaters rise again

[quick coyote]

Add Keyboard and Mouse support for the PS5 for those who have turned on Crossplay

[chrome basin]

Git gud and switch to dash

[quick coyote]

its called rewasd aimbot, which is not bannable, and after 2 anti cheat serurity updates its still works and devs gives no shit

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[worthy helm]

REMOVE RECON

[valid night]

slightly nerf fcar recoil (just roll back to OB version fcar) nerf it's damage from26-25 (this'll not effect ttk should be ok)

[shadow gyro]

https://streamable.com/7pdkds

if you push someone off the map you dont get ANY credit for the kill

[tough topaz]

You're right. They should hear us console players and make the game more balanced for all! I really love to play the game but aim assist is not sufficient to make the experience of an FPS better! Dropping the game if it doesn't happen :(.

[covert nest]

There are no "casual" play in this game anymore, It's all really sweaty and frustrating. You need to hit nearly every bullet or you have no chance.
Being good at shooting is the only way to be good at this game. It doesn't matter how well you strategize if your opponents can aim better than you anyways. Now this is a shooter I know, but it has become just like any other shooter. If you aren't highly skilled already then you almost might as well not play. I want to relax and play some matches, but I need to be really really focused every game and play sweaty asf.

[quick coyote]

Yes they should add Keyboard and Mouse support for console if Crossplay is turned on

[lethal coyote]

I feel like the filter when going invisible is really bad at night time maps

[little jacinth]

We need the feature of auto sprint on controller like other FPS have. My thumb hurts after playing some hours.

[sinful gazelle]

There isn’t a thing where you can blind X button to sprint hold? Like the same on pc? For Shift on hold sprints

[plush grotto]

They should at least let console play mnk if cross play is enabled

[brave plover]

Please FIX the FrameRateLimit, It dosnt Save After restarts .. and I just can set it by 5r steps (350, 355. 360) … I want exactly 357, and I have much more Input lag After These Update! Needed to take my mouse sense higher and it feels Not the same Like before the Update … its hard to Play with these changes, recon Sense Makes light Class unplayable, thougt After These Update light Class is playable in rankeds, but it isnt .. Heavy feels stronger then before, scar is too op, rpg is to strong anyway, mp’s Feelin like nerfed and unplayable

[shrewd vine]

Remove recon.

[subtle oak]

Please fix crossplay.
Console vs console and not pc please.

[loud mauve]

Please remove recon or rework It.

[pseudo briar]

LET US CHANGE SPEC IN RANK

[merry creek]

Give us AA back so console can compete with MNK and cheaters

[sour bane]

Remove Recon (ranked btw)

[proud ocean]

Recon has been there forever. Wonder why people discovered it today….

[ionic berry]

We need private matches and more maps

[sinful gazelle]

Game can’t just “remove” something. At best rework would be the best possible outcome. Removing something that been in the game for a while is what I would say unprofessional and doesn’t set the tone of the game. Just how supergliding or whatever you call it got removed not too long. Apex have this bug untended movement glitch and they haven’t remove it for 3 years while they builded a whole community off of it and ppls got mad when they remove it after 3 years. Recon ain’t going to be remove. At best rework or more commonly nerf in some way

[fossil kelp]

Release Team deathmatch (no cash)

[cunning stag]

So now I'm forced to play against MnK players but I cannot use MnK on my console? Does this make sense to you Embark? Only a few people turn cross play off. Bring back MnK on console so the game is fair. If PC supports both inputs, consoles should too!

Not everyone that owns a console play on controller, consoles have native MnK support added by Sony and Microsoft, which is why many of us bought a console, you're literally missing out.

[gaunt perch]

FIX SNIPER RIFLE SIGHTS MY BULLETS DONT GO WHERE THE CROSSHAIR IS

[wanton root]

I havent won 1 round of ranked as a solo player in the 5 games I've played today, I carry, please do something😅

[tight spade]

just today you think? xDDDD

[serene hearth]

waiting for other team to finsih for like 10 mins and going its just glitched for the entire team in ranked any way to fix this?

[brave plover]

Please FIX the FrameRateLimit, It dosnt Save After restarts .. and I just can set it by 5r steps (350, 355. 360) … I want exactly 357, and I have much more Input lag After These Update! Needed to take my mouse sense higher and it feels Not the same Like before the Update … its hard to Play with these changes, recon Sense Makes light Class unplayable, thougt After These Update light Class is playable in rankeds, but it isnt .. Heavy feels stronger then before, scar is too op, rpg is to strong anyway, mp’s Feelin like nerfed and unplayable

[placid valley]

ｍｅｄｉｕｍ　ｉｓ　ｓｏ　ｆｋｉｎｇ　ｂｒｏｋｅｎ　ｌｏｌ
this game is dead. everyone is playing fking medium

[undone belfry]

For this they need input based matchmaking or put the k&m players in pc lobbys. Because otherwise they just doom their console Plattform community if those k&m players play with the console Pool...

And no ive learned that aim assist isnt better then an average pc player. (Because of broken clossplay on console with pc...) The average pc player shreds the average console players. Maybe not the top 500 console players but everyone else... and the majority is everyone else...

[quick coyote]

I put crossplay off on ps5 and I got against 1 sniper PC player who ended 35 - 0. That and the shit aim assist is making me get really frustrated... playing in console es sooo bad rn

[bold tendon]

Hey guys, very nice patch! Love the balancing! I have a little suggestion that is quick to make I guess. It is about the view on preset contestants either on the "contestants" page or before starting a game. I am forced to make my contestants look differently, so I can choose the right contestant right away. This is what comes into my mind to fix this:

1. Add the specialization icon somewhere into the avatar.
2. Show the entire loadout (incl. reserves) when hovering over the avatar. Like in a 2x4 table showing the loadout and reserves with their pictures.

[fossil kelp]

Release Team deathmatch (no cash)

[minor sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-23548728

[orchid quarry]

Can we get a QoL option that would AUTOMATICALLY switch back primary weapon after you use a gadget and you still have one in your inventory?

Example:2 flashbangs->throw 1->I get switched back to Primary weapon

[cosmic spear]

Aim assist isn't working rn. That's why

[compact shard]

I propose it again

[sand sable]

Have you considered to make recon work a little like the lights dash ability? So you can trigger it 3 times where you see everyone for a second or two.. and like 15-20sec cooldown for each trigger...

[soft mist]

1. The Number one thing that is currently ruining the experience and is killing your player gain is the C4 + Barrel combo. I have 4 friends who quit the game because they are tired of getting 1 shot out of no where. The problem with the C4B Combo is NOT the RANGE, it is strictly the DAMAGE BOTH SOURCES DEAL TO YOU.

You guys nerfed the Damage for the C4 and put Mass on it.
Range was never the problems for good players.
a) You can dodge the C4B on range with your movement.
b) You can destroy the barrel on range.

The problem is that it still deals between 250-350 damage combined and flies at such a high velocity close and mid range that its simply impossible to react to that. The problem ist hat its 1 shotting light, mid and even heavys. The problem is that 3rd partying is a thing in this game and its ok, its part oft he game and youll develop a game sense for it.

But how does a fight go?
a) You get shot with a gun, YOU SEE IT = You can react and either run or commit and shoot back.
b) A nade is being throw at you, YOU COULD SEE IT = You can react and move ur position.
c) Even a ligh can zap you, AN ABILITY THATS DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU DO NOTHING FOR SOME SECONDS, = You still can shoot and kill the light player.

But C4B? No. You cant do anything.
Why dont you guys safe alot of time with working on newer skins or upcomming balance changes and add a button on the ability for the heavy where he can just kill a random player thats in his radius of 200 meters? It has the same effect. You have no counter player to it.
It feels so frustrating you guys cant imagine. You cant do aynthing about it.

Fix:

• C4 Alone? Not dangerous.
• Barrel Alone? Not dangerous.

But remove the ability to put ONLY c4 on anything and its completly fixed.
Its the only viable damage source the heavys have. And its so disgustingly unfair that you will NOT see a single heavy NOT using it. The little damage nerf you guys made will not safe it and will just keep players disconnecting from your beautiful game.

[rose robin]

Idk why remove mouse and keyboard of console to begin with if the ground work was there why not add it all the way instead of remove it😕 Cause even without being able to change my sensitivity or keybinds it was still really good

[opaque meteor]

ROLL UP SLEEVES FUNCTION FOR WATCHES PLEASE

[brave plover]

+1

[terse slate]

Crashing bc of angelscript stack at the start of ranked and being punished with zero option to rejoin is pretty bad.. why is that a thing?

[opaque patio]

took 5 minutes and many restarts to be able to play the game with my friend today due to "matchmaking was cancelled by user" edit: we alternated host many times and it never fixed it until the final restart

[cloud ermine]

how can me and my freind join eachother it says failed to join party

[hoary hull]

If you remake party with a different party leader I believe it fixes this problem. It worked for me last night

[void horizon]

I have that issue sometimes, restarting the party or having someone else host fixes every single time

[fierce hinge]

Nerf turret health absolute joke. nerf recon more. nerf fcar. im a medium player too

[smoky storm]

Anyone else experience performance drops since patch? Specifically during gunfights.

[tough topaz]

PERIOD!

[smoky gust]

you should be able to see your teammates class, even if they are dead

often both of my teammates die and I now have to make a choice, who do I revive?
but I frequently don't get that choice because I cant remember what name corresponds to what player, making it essentially random who I revive

[vapid lion]

Ranked rewards are garbage. Hoping they improve next season. Gun stickers are lame af. The only good reward is locked behind diamond rank (which is fine. Top rewards for top rank). However: as a medium main I see no incentive to grind for a light weapon skin, gun stickers that show rank are quite frankly: lame. Lower tier rewards need to be better to incentivize the more casual playerbase to engage with ranked mode.

[chrome basin]

This is dumb. The patch completely fixed the issue. C4 and throwables should go hand in hand its a viable tactic. Maybe dont run in after a heavy and play range. They can barely throw it a meter now.

[austere magnet]

I like playing medium, but recon senses could use some change.

-Now detects movements instead of just wall hacks

-Being motionless or crouching can prevent being spotted by the gadget

-Recon senses cannot detect the whole team for 10 sec that just respawned back in to prevent getting pre-fired

-Activating the Recon senses sends out a brief short range pulse based on the direction and audible sound.

[placid wedge]

Thank you for listening to the community and update good patchs and fixes

[silk inlet]

Hello,
I’m an avid user of practice mode. Everyday before playing I warmup and utilize this mode to use and try out new gadgets and guns. Kudos for making such a complete training range 🙂 The main issue I have with this mode is that it’s only a solo experience. My enjoyment of this mode would greatly improve if up to two more friends could join me in the practice range. Specially when introducing friends to the game, being able to use the training grounds with them instead of having to stream my pov to show them strategies and mechanics would be great. This would also double as sort of a custom match where we could fight against each other in a low stakes environment to train countering against different gadgets, guns and classes. I feel like this is the only thing holding the game back from feeling like a complete experience (or the lack of some other custom match option) and I think it would make a great addition to an already great game!

TL:DR: Add the ability for up to two friends to join my practice range

[radiant sinew]

Hey I found a Reddit post talking about class passives and I tought it was really cool imma send the link to it here
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/RKdDtYmkkF
It should be with my reply included on the post I hope they consider class passives it could mean more various gameplay

[bold tendon]

Please show ranks of opponents in ranked games. Until today I am not sure if the lobbies are skill based or random.

[inner hill]

Recon is still mandatory and still too strong. Make it a gadget you pull out like thermal vision.

[slate shale]

fix the fact that we can deactivate crossplay on console

[muted imp]

is there a bug going on with Heavy? i cant zip line i cant shoot my RPG and everything is red warning on right screen ??

[golden iron]

Can you make sword be able to attack more than 1 person? It’s weird that it can only target one person at a time even though the sword swing should be able to connect with more than 1

[gusty mountain]

Could the "open in browser" button, open the link in steam overlay please

[bleak vector]

DAY 2 OF ASKING FOR WALL HACKS (RECON SENSES) TO BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME

[terse slate]

C4 Player Damage was nerfed to 155 or what was it? How come I get nuked by 190 damage by a single C4 ? o.0 (the other C4 was listed seperately )

[smoky storm]

All gun sight sway removed during ADS,stay centered on screen,ironsights included

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

Option for more neutral background colors, too vibrant, causes eyestrain.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Allow access to the keybinds config file for improved keybind options

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Reduce gas and dust particle opacity

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

[pure cedar]

make a deathmatch game

[meager remnant]

can you fix their game kicking me out of the game because of a server timeout?

[brave apex]

Add multiplayer to firing range and add friendly fire so you can practice with ur friends.

[lethal coyote]

thats basically solo bank it

[subtle oak]

Fix crossplay so console players can have fair matches again. Literally don’t want to play atm because mixed lobbies.

[placid valley]

buff AKM, I don't like Fcar. Buff it to Fcar level. Stop playing non medium. lol

[weak escarp]

Nerf med weapons

[brave plover]

please nerf the Fcar, lights are dead in 0,5sec

[wise quiver]

Make revolver bullet size 10x larger

[copper plover]

WOuld love to see a one game ranked format. Tournaments are super fun but Id love to play ranked without an hour time commitment. Just 4 teams and winner and 2nd get to slightly gain points, somewhere around 50.

[split rain]

ye, that sucks, whats the title of the post?

[dusky yoke]

Guess I gotta get a new monitor with a crosshair overlay built in LMAO

[autumn garnet]

is it just me or equipment wheel pc is not working?

[median frost]

Please Embark, just acknowledge Recon in its current state is a major issue that should be adressed ASAP

[wanton quarry]

Day 2 of asking for AA to be fixed on PS5

[cinder frost]

aim assist is perfectly fine?
Just check announcement

[rose robin]

Announcements and gameplay are 2 separate things they say they fixed it but if it's broken in game it's broken in game

[pure cedar]

not really if the game is about money and not kills

[quick coyote]

Any chance we could have the ability to rename our build classes? Rather than it just being medium 1 meduim 2 etc...

[brave quarry]

When Embark will understand that the heavy class is OVERCHEAT ?

[prime wing]

leash lights within 100m of the team so they dont fuck off and chase butterflies all match ❤️

[carmine warren]

THISSSSSS

[placid valley]

nerf heavy, buff medium. The game is boring af rn. lol Everyone is using medium Fcar and shooting at a long distance. lol trash balance

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS GOING DOWNHILL FAST…

[opaque sky]

lol

[somber monolith]

can we PLEASSSSEEEE get proper 32:9 support. Dope thanks lol

[wicked heath]

They nerfed heavy in 1.5

[misty bone]

any update on when the heavy lmgs bloom will be fixed?

[dim pond]

can we get a monitor selection please. its frustrating to have to change from fullscreen to windowed then resolution slide it over then revert these settings back every time I play
reason this is helpful in my case I have two monitors one for gamming one for work/ discord one is 4k 60Hz other is 1440 144Hz

[stiff tusk]

A pulse effect like I'm division 2, you get 2 or 3 charges, pulse scans targets out to 50m, last for about 15 seconds

[void scarab]

hopefully soon..

[floral thorn]

Make recon senses a pulse like sonar grenades and make it a cone shape in front of you (Or remove it)

[lament talon]

Just found a discord cheating server with 4k members. Makes me sick

We need a death replay or a replay system as a whole so we can help the devs by reporting

[prime wing]

first death back i was beamed instantly with an fcar from rooftop to rooftop on vegas, same shit different patch lmfao

[quick coyote]

Uhhhh dev
You should update😂

[marble walrus]

Rework recon senses, its disgusting

[tacit aspen]

NERF THE REVIVE its fucking annoying to get killed by a guy that you cant even damage

[pure bluff]

remove equip, jsut make it equip when you clikc on it

[wraith wharf]

its says fatal error certificate check failed everytime i try to launch the game. ive tried everything but nothing works anyone know a fix? It was fine before the update

[quick coyote]

A guy is telling me that aim assist on console was fixed last thursday. Is that a troll or legit?

[wanton quarry]

AA slowdown within 20m bug still active on ps5. No AA within 20m.

Please fix it Embark. tysm

[strong nova]

The devs keep forgetting to nerf turret

[weak escarp]

Add a limited gamemode on vegas where you get vaults (bank it style or regular) but you deposit them in slot machines and they give you like a random midifier like sometimes it will deposit double and sometimes it will take all your money. The more money the more risk. (Meme gamemode)

[valid night]

slightly nerf fcar recoil nerf damage 26-25. all AR LMG hipfire accuracy nerf plz fix melee bug

[shadow gyro]

day 22 of asking for beards..... can we get some beards plz?

[ornate badger]

The Grenade Launchers should break a
floor/wall/roof after unloading a full magazine into them.
They barely do any destruction and this way it would be balanced while still giving them more utility.
#👂┇game-feedback

[odd timber]

How to Fix Error Code TFGE0002 - i make acc on the website & verfiy the game what can i do more ??

[stiff tusk]

Goo, and I think glitch gernade

[sick marten]

game still crashes on EAC screen, and I can't even send the logs to support because "file name must be under 70 characters" when the file name is literally EAC_LOG

[sweet sable]

Please Embark! let me gamble away my money on bank it in vegas I just want some working slot machines with higher loss ratio

[smoky storm]

It is about kills. Objective based game modes have more killing in them than tdm does, because there's a reason for players to congregate at one spot, instead of being spread out over the entire map, camping in random corners or searching for each other constantly.

In any online fps you always get way more kills in objective modes than in pure tdm.

[prime wing]

devs keep forgetting to make cl40 usable again

[quick coyote]

Add a limited time mode which is Normal quick cash mode but premades cant queue for it, only for loners. Instant success

[placid valley]

The whole game is bugged. broken balance, broken AA, broken recoil bloom, broken cheaters. Don't expect anything from the game. Everyone is using medium to spam recon and shooting with Fcar rn. to some degree, the game is dead.

[shut lava]

Allow parties to go into practice modes or create a Sandbox like gamemode

[golden wasp]

meme

[dreamy heron]

what is happening to M60?

[lament talon]

They will do custom games once it's somewhat esports ready

[queen rover]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[quick coyote]

I really feel like light should lean into it's stealth/recon role more and should be encouraged to avoid firefights. I think it would make sense to reduce to the max range on xp-54 and M11 to encourage more close quarters play. This would make the class more viable in ranked modes imo.

[plush grotto]

@dense niche LeadingRocker#9269 hacking with sledge

[quick coyote]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[leaden stag]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[placid valley]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[foggy orbit]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[cloud jungle]

In your opinion, what would grapple need to be viable?

I feel like they should rework it to work on a resource system, consumed based on distance grappled.

So you could grapple like 1-3 times in a row depending on how far you grappled.

[oak kernel]

Just give it 2 grapples

[quick coyote]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[flint goblet]

Aim assist needs to be looked over and adjusted again. As a life long control player, playing on either pc or console against m&k players is simply not fun now. No matter how good you are with control, it doesn't come close to a fair fight against m&k players.

• The guns that had aim snapping removed completely are unusable rn (shotgun etc).
• General aim assist needs to be slightly improved to even the playing field against the precision, reflexes and quick movements of m&k players.

Either this, or use input based matchmaking so controller players can have back the well needed aim assist as it were before without upsetting the m&k players.

[lethal coyote]

its not just m60 its all guns

[mellow gull]

keyboard and mouse support on consoles
zzevelt

[pine needle]

This is mostly what happens if ya'll cry nonstop and the devs nerf virtually everything into the ground so only the niche stuff remains

explosive gadgets are completely cancelled, shotguns are a joke, glitch was never a thing, teasers are gone, so I think it's pretty much what we all wished for ig

[rose robin]

I just want mnk back

[fleet coral]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[twilit lily]

Devs used their own data. Had nothing to do with people crying. You know, how every other dev ALSO handles these things. If they see something overperforming and causing annoyances, they nerf it. What people like YOU really need to start doing, is stop becoming SO attached to video games that the moment a particular thing you use gets nerfed, you cry instead of just using something else.
Game isn't balanced around YOU specifcally. You are meaningless in the grand scheme of pretty much anything besides your own family. They look at STATS, not random discord chatters. Obviously community outcry can add to things, but the devs are going to purposely tweak/change things unless they feel it would make the game better/and MAJORITY happy. They don't care if 5k people hate the changes if everyone else enjoys them.

[strange mountain]

Some of you need to chill the fck out, the game is literally two months old and some of you are already calling it “dead”. Give them time to work on the balancing issues, they are probably fixing the bloom bug as we speak. So far these devs are really good when it comes to community feedback, they even gave you this space to complain like a little rat.

[placid valley]

someone who calls others little rats asked ppl to chill out 🤡

[oak kernel]

For the FCAR I think the issue is purely that it out DPS's everything at almost every range.

A change I propose to bring it more in line with a longer range AR type role is to lower its rate of fire, but decrease its damage falloff to compensate. Ideally what this would do is make it a menace past certain ranges, but be out dps'd by the akm up close. It wouldn't be useless up close, but it would be out damaged if you got caught out and snuck up on.

Would be an interesting balance change I think and be positive for the gun balance

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[quick coyote]

Hey Embark: Check your player count. Should probably fix your game

[willow laurel]

Definitely this, as in any other game, discord is at best a stat that helps them seing what the community is pointing out that should be noticed by their team. The final decision is mostly due to their observations about what is pointed out and take action if they see it necessary for the game health. That's why they didn't nerf the defib' invincibility imho, they probably don't have enough data or the data they have is not significant enough to make a nerf that would harm the gameplay (maybe they think it's okay as it is, maybe it's for the people with bad internet connection having delay, maybe they need more time to make adjustments). On the contrary they probably had wayyy more datas about the heavie's nukes considering every ranked lobbies had a ton them launched every round, so they were confident enough in nerfing it for the good of the game and it's playerbase...

[foggy orbit]

Insane that people are upset over other people are raising legitimate criticisms and concerns of the balancing issues in the game. We want the balance to be improved so the game is more fun which leads to better player retention and player counts.

[thorn elbow]

all of this is easily understood but then they have in-game wallhacks and think it's perfectly fine to leave that in

[covert yacht]

I don't know why but since the update, i have more lag than before

[sonic spoke]

Dev team has some of the best response rate in a new launch. 🍻

[fresh crown]

fcar is balanced

[pine needle]

I don't think putting "You" into caps lock will help get your point across, but you do you, girl. Hope your employment carreer is better than your debate management skills.

While your point is appreciated, please do a reverse-search on my messages to see that my input regarding nerfs is less than a dozen messages. I never outright asked for stuff like this. Even if that puts me into a minority, I still won't put myself into the same group as those people.

[stone crown]

https://ibb.co/LNqv88v

so sad

[earnest ermine]

120HZ support for ps5/Xbox series X

[spare arch]

Devs, please for the love of the game, can you remove/nerf cloaking.

[robust yew]

Why is solos an LTM? I think they should just make it permanent because LTM are bad for games just look at Apex, I think the more game modes the better

[terse turtle]

Cloaking was just nerfed in the latest patch

[vapid lion]

The game was designed around team play with different classes fulfilling different roles. My guess is they are using solo bank it to gather data regarding solo play and how to properly implement a permanent solo mode in the future

[slate shale]

PLEASE FIX DISABLE CROSSPLAY ON CONSOLE

[undone belfry]

I really had hopes in the dev Team as they were active here... but guess they didn't really listened like most of the devs always do. They study marketing, game engineering, statistics and stuff but none of those are real gamers ig... its obvious which problems the game has. But it seems that devs are trying to dodge it.. and create solo modes which is a joke, like ofc there will be cloacking lights and recon mediums... who didnt thought that off?

But again, hey we get some more cosmetics!

[sick marten]

anyone know what TFLA0002 mean? I got the game to launch only on my alt steam account and i'm getting this code

[quick coyote]

Dev dont watch here maybe.
CM will filter and give them stat.
Korea The finals official discord server work like that.

[pine raft]

fix the fucking matchmaking, u cant keep matching top players with fucking bronzes

[hollow shoal]

Here's my thing about invis: everyone who is using it complains that it sucks and you are completely visible etc etc etc....but that begs the question, why is just about every light using it then lol why not take the movement if the cloaking sucks so much? I think they know that it does work fine and is absolutely strong in a lot of situations. Maybe inconsistent cause weird lighting can make you more visible than other situations where a light is running full speed and the glare/night time crap hides you even better than normal. Idk man I just find it weird when the primary used ability is talked about as being essentially useless yet everyone is using it 🤔

Also will add the invis is absolutely BETTER than most invis abilities in most other pvp games that feature it. I mean I've never seen a game that allows you to stand still and it 100% makes you undetectable. When I have played light I find it hilarious to run and jump around someone and then just let go of all the keys and stand there and watch the person look around in confusion lol

[cobalt flume]

cant play due to error code tfla0002

[north dew]

Sensor needs to be reworked completely

[serene meteor]

WE NEED NEW GUNS AND UTIL PLS

[subtle zealot]

Nerf LIGHT please best dps, tazer and hide. He should not be able to hide when he takes damage, there should be a timer.

[unborn niche]

heavy should not have health while he takes fking ton of damage

[plucky veldt]

Recon is discusting skill need more nerf
if don't patch everywhere MMM MMM MMM MMM
and deadgame.

[placid valley]

Cloaking was definitely too powerful before, but it seemed to take for 75% of the reasons why LIGHT could work. It's nerfed now, and there is nothing else really important can make up being added into the patch. Light just simply became trash at the moment.

[nimble steppe]

Add keyboard customise for the keys and mouse sensitivity and crosier, on consoles

[severe linden]

Pc players can join console lobbies without crossplay enabled:)(:

[fathom jay]

make more maps

[pine needle]

Pull an Armored Core. Don't nerf the strong stuff, buff the weak stuff.

[robust yew]

hopefully, because I've been having fun playing it when my friends aren't on since Randoms in this game I'm convinced are just cats walking on a keyboard and I don't enjoy LFG surfing

[wise quiver]

Light: dying
Medium: dying
Heavy: dying a bit slower

My solo queue teammates be like

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[sonic spoke]

Most of the balance issues are probably aim bot & no recoil related.
@sick marten
TFLA is a ban code: it is a know inssue. Go to FAQ site for more info.
Recommended action is: Please ensure that you have a stable network connection and try to log into the Embark ID website again. Afterwards, please restart the game.

[pliant rock]

lacking optimization excludes a lot of the free to play playerbase to access the game. A free to play model relies on wide playerbase. Urgent optimizations needed

[patent solstice]

@ devs
NERF THE DEFIB FFS. 3 MEDIUM TEAM NEEDS TO BE WIPED TWICE!
PLAY THE GAME BEFORE DEVELOPING AND PATCHING STUFF!

[quick coyote]

Buddy the game literally just came out lol. What would be a cool and balancing change to recon is if it had a temporary ping on where someone is at one moment instead of wallhacks. A ping that only you could see tho would bring a bit more balance than a team. Which mitigates tracking through walls and eyeballing teams across the map. It would give a quick general consensus as to what teams are where and not too powerful to where we know where and when and how they’re getting there

[pliant hill]

delete recon

[white furnace]

Delete turret

[reef jasper]

Recon rework

[noble nimbus]

recon rework, nerf wasn't enough, if anything it's made it worse because everyone has switched to recon mediums for ranked

[tiny grail]

Just realized people are complaining about the rpg one shotting but the light shotgun does too (ahem and dead go boom)

[eternal apex]

Defibs should be an ability instead of equipment the triple medium meta is really annoying to deal with when the entire team is sucking eachother off with heal guns or running walls

[quick coyote]

Please add an option to ranked matchmaking to filter out classes. Every time I get paired with a heavy or light my team loses which makes the game less fun for competitive players who want to play medium and win. Thanks!

[brave plover]

INPUTLAGG IST INSANE HIGH AFTER THIS UPDATE; ATFER USING HIGHER SENSE IT NEVER FEELS DAT GOOD LIKE BEFOR THE UPDATE; PLEASE FIX THIS

[placid valley]

No, it doesn't. And compares to the RPG, light shotgun forces a 150 hp player to get enough close to you with broken cloak ability. You have a high chance can wipe that poor guy before he can

[median path]

Daily exp post. Sup

[sudden tangle]

daily the meta sucks post. sup

[thorn elbow]

i would do this and filter out medium lmao

[pine needle]

Bruw the turrent is piss in the wind they should buff it like wtih a damage ramp so instead of chip damage it amplifies over time the longer you are targeted

[robust yew]

why has my screen been cloudy since the update is it a bug?

[fleet coral]

what is the reason it's so hard to remove recon sense?

[tacit aspen]

Fix skillbased matchmaking im very tired of playing against top 500 they absolutly clap me and my team its even more annoying then playing against cheaters

[toxic light]

fix frag granade taking 5 years to pull out

[neon oak]

So people feel like playing god despite refusing to play anything else

Would love to see it removed or reworked so these mediums learn game sense for once

[willow laurel]

because the game launched less than one month ago you dum dum

[tame sparrow]

when do u plan to make elo system for ranked matches?

[rain gust]

I've supported you guys at Embark for the longest time, banking that you'd make a solid FPS game. But now, you're in the danger zone. Players are quitting and moving on, and your team right now, as it stands, has to collectively decide and make changes and address the issues at-hand, but most importantly this:

Recon and C4 barrels/nukes.

Recon is just so absurdly strong. A great leader with pings and callouts, on top of winning 1v1s is overly broken. Across the map, you can see all enemy teams potentially. It's broken, it's silly, and it's akin to that of wallhacks. My team consistently wins with this in ranked tourneys. You should NOT be able to know where your enemies are for the vast majority of time, it's wrong. A rework is in order.

C4 nukes are boring, monotonous, shameful, and unfair to the opposing team. You've done whatever you can to nerf this with the C4 nerfs, but it's just not enough. People are just getting one-shotted still, content creators and comp players are outright quitting and uninstalling because of this. I watched a top 50 streamer just uninstall the game after they ended the stream, because they got C4 barreled an absurd amount of times during a stream. One-shotting people back and forth in every ranked match is insanity, on my side and on my enemies' sides.

These two make the meta. A meta that is boring, monotonous, and quite frankly, stupid.

[vale basin]

I imagine someone has to have brought this up, but when you try to use a chat headset on Xbox the voice chat still just comes through the TV speakers. And to clarify I’m not talking about proper headphones where all the audio would play through, I mean keeping game audio on the TV but voice chat just through the headset. I hear PC has an option where they can control what device voice chat comes through.

[astral abyss]

Totally agree. I would rather have the option for input based matchmaking and have acceptable AA than not. M&K vs controller will never be completely balanced and devs and gamers alike need to accept this. Cross input gaming is casual at it's heart and has no real competitive integrity anyways. Nerfing AA into the ground in the name of fairness without regard for controller player experience was and always will be a mistake. Input based matchmaking options would solve this neatly and satisfy both camps.

[eternal apex]

Mmr is silly it shouldn’t be in the game if I’m in gold I should be fighting other gold players in ranked. don’t protect bad players with sbmm and make good players have a miserable time cus every game plays like there is 1.2 million on the line quick cash and casual games should be random matchmaking if you have 1-2 high kill games you’re better off solo queuing ranked for the rest of the day it’ll be just as miserable

[earnest granite]

1.I love to play as the heavy class and now both heavy and light are unplayable,medium with the model 1887 is overpowered ,fix the heavy and the light

2.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

3.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

4.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

5.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

6 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

7.Medium:
-defib should be a specialization instead of a gadget so mediums can have more variety in their builds, at this time it is practically necessary as a gadget, this would also alleviate the defib healing gun chain that frustrates so many players
-CL40 should do more self damage or bounce like the heavy GL
-FCAR needs slightly more recoil, it’s too strong compared to the AK
-AKM needs to have less firerate

[burnt cosmos]

Rollback patch?

[thorn elbow]

rework recon senses

[red shard]

Rework the whole game tbh

[slate shale]

ROLLBACK PATCH PLEASE

[fathom pivot]

The revert in K&M changes when?

[placid valley]

uh, can we rollback to 2023? I want to refund the outfits

[latent garnet]

new anti cheat when?

[quick coyote]

The best anti cheat would be reworking recon senses.

[final crag]

Anyone here unable to queue up when you’re a full party? We can duo just fine but as soon as a third person joins we get an unable to connect message

[crude path]

solo bank it boring
90% of lobby are invis players.

[brave copper]

I'm just coming back to say again, the recon nerf was the wrong approach. Adjusting the cool down will get us no where.

You need to change the strength of the sense itself. I suggest making the color blobs deviate around the enemy they are highlighting so the information is more ambiguous.

Hunt Showdown sets a good example for how to handle such an OP ability.

The game is not fun in ranked because of the amount of recon sense. Out maneuvering people, breaking thier ankles as the last standing person on your team, ambushes, flanking, 3rd partying, all of these strategic plays are being greatly suppressed by almost all teams having at least 1 recon.

Recon sense is dominating the flow of the game and nothing counters it, not even cloak.... which you also nerfed even though it's already well countered by gas, fire, recon nade, motion sensor, thermals, and... recon sense....

Not to mention this is on the class with the best overall weapon selection and an instant revive that grants iframes in the middle of combat.

[raw carbon]

Anyone else experiencing lag in Vegas?

[urban heath]

some way of checking match history, like the stats of each match played

[bleak tangle]

The sound engine in this game needs work. I frequently don't hear foot steps of people right on top of me. Team mate footsteps seem to be loud all the time even sometimes through walls when they are in another building. I will also intermittently hear my own footsteps as if they are behind me making me think someone is behind me. Finally, there is a bug where the whole game will become slightly more muted and wooly sounding. The next game it will be fine again.

[tropic sequoia]

I think the cloak nerf is bad. No one plays light in ranked because its the weakest class already so why do you nerf it even more? I think all classes should be treated equally so everyone can play whats most fun to them, still medium gets better and better every patch

[spiral merlin]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLS JUST PUT US IN PC LOBBYS, ITS A WIN WIN PLEASE

[eager sage]

WTF everything was working pretty well and now my game crash at launch

[modern wedge]

underground metro system in vegas

[pine needle]

Oh okay then I'm not schitzophrenic

istg I kept hearing my character's footsteps lag behind me

[regal estuary]

https://i.imgur.com/CikmZO0.png

im getting this on multiple pc's

[quick coyote]

It was nerfed but invisibility grenade was significantly buffed. All the devs did was ask the player to sacrifice an equipment slot to play invisibility spam.

[rocky verge]

Add a Venice map pretty please

[quick coyote]

check pinned in #💥┇spawn-point, if troubleshooting steps don't work, please contact player support

[burnt hazel]

Any news on the ads bloom bugfix?

[tight karma]

THE BLOOM AUUUUUUUGH

[placid valley]

Please be patient and wait until it wilts naturally. 🤡

[distant storm]

you should able to load into th epractice ran gwith your friends to be able to 1v1 / 1v1v1

[bleak shell]

That would be cool but I think Amsterdam would be better, imagine the cash out floating around on one of the tour boats going through the canals

[hot tartan]

How do you fix TRFM0100 error code??

[jaunty harbor]

This is coming from a non light main but i like to play light occasionally. Maybe the only buff the LH1 needs is having an optic instead of any more damage. Maybe a 2x and it could be meta changing for them

[tall willow]

how can I solve the login failed issue now ? I Just installed the game right now ?

[tiny grail]

Dead go boom is honestly crazy unbalanced against lights (short range/low health). Maybe give it a fuse and give the statue an accelerating red tick.

[brave plover]

mousefeeling is busted after this patch, such an high inputlag now, please fix this embark <3

[sturdy galleon]

MAKE THE WATCHES VISIBLE WITH ALL CLOTHING WTFFFF I BOUGHT IT AND GOT FUCKED

[twilit flame]

I just updated to 1.5 and now I am getting a fatal error when starting the game. it says Certificate check failed. I validated game files but when that didn't work I redownloaded the game. That didn't work either. anyone else having this issue?

[vast jetty]

I mean idk what the point is but if someone says you in all caps does make it seem more legitimate

[green root]

did they fix aim assist yet

[proud ocean]

Aiming still broken

[orchid tendon]

Would be great to change the range on the medium Recon sense. The range is to big, you can see where all the enemies are.

[grave grotto]

W patch notes

[tribal zinc]

please fix the random crashes on pc, also controllers on ps5 seem awful no matter the sensitivity changes

[oak kernel]

I don't think the cloak changes were really that significant. Cloak feels more in line with other abilities now tbh. Feels fine.

However, the game's not going to significantly change until medium's are brought in line. I think defibs are actually equal or more of a major issue than recon because they extend every fight unnecessarily long, make some fights feel unwinnable, and basically remove a gadget slot by being essentially required with how good they are. It genuinely feels like exactly the same as when Overwatch reworked mercy with her revive for the first time - terribly oppressive. It's to the point where my strategy at times is to simply waste my enemies time rather than go for a kill because I know they'll just revive and end me if I try to dive in to finish a few of them off and dip out. Fights are simply lasting way too long because of these damn things.

There's a simple fix for defibs, make defibs lose all charge upon death and make defibs revive you with barely any hp. This makes it so medium's reviving each other isn't an instant team revive, and makes it so reviving a teammate as a meatshield isn't a dominant strategy. I still think defibs need to be a specialization, but I think this'll be a good middle ground till that can be done.

[pine needle]

My point is that the group of individuals the guy associates me with does not actually include me, I do NOT actively cry for nerfs or buffs

[quick coyote]

Fair and balanced!

[molten trail]

every game now is just 30 mediums with recon sense, getting really stale and boring. please remove it from the game already

[bleak vector]

I don't recall any other games puprosefully introducing wallhacks

[vernal girder]

Another server with almost all mediums and FCAR

[shrewd vine]

Haven't noticed any drop whatsoever in cheating since the patch, but heard someone say they improved their anti cheat allegedly? I'm not a coder but these guys aren't exactly subtle, they are always 1 beaming from over 200 meters with the lewis gun. All I hear is dink dink dink as my teammates melt next to me.

[winged cliff]

Lewis gun isnt a hard weapon to recoil cancel tho. For me at least. But yes it is annoying. I had someone shooting out of their back

[drowsy vector]

Love the game in general, and also like the most recent changes. However, every time I go into ranked I have the leaderboard right next to me, and almost every time there’s multiple players from the top 500 in my game even though I’m gold. Hopefully this gets resolved, because it eats my motivation to keep playing ranked tbh

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for more visual feedback when both of your teammates are dead, and you dying will result in a team wipe. Having to look in the bottom left and see if they have skulls or healthbars takes too much time in the heat of the moment, and doesn't show the urgency of staying alive in that moment

[sinful lance]

You misspelled remove

[tiny grail]

This and something for dead go boom (some time to get away and their statue flashing red to tell you to get the f out)

[finite charm]

Such a fun game, I’ve played a ton and still find ways to keep it enjoyable. I do think that we need a game mode with like 5 players so larger friend groups could hop on. I also think yall need to try and get some brand deals so the player base increases! Amazing game and people just hating right now and not realizing this could be the next big fps.

[hearty jasper]

stealing should stall the cashout timer

[wanton quarry]

Fix the AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5. tysm

[minor gale]

I feel like the issue is not recon senses in particular but mediums being able to capitalize super well on recon with crazy damage output. Cloaked lights can't really do much, and other players just sorta get shot the second they peek, but it's especially thanks to the AR set allowing them to do this at plenty of range and sufficient TTK.
Recon senses would probably be better with a little tweaking, and keeping the Medium damage a little lower than current rates.

[sly sapphire]

Buff melee on PC by allowing us to not have aim assist. Thank you.

[noble steppe]

The number of extremely obvious aimbotters is killing all enjoyment I have for this game.

Great game, dog tier anticheat.

Close to uninstalling and moving on.

[minor flax]

It seems like patch 1.5 unintentionally increased the self-damage range for c4. I've died to my own c4 when it was 10-15 feet away from me multiple times since the patch. And this wasn't mentioned in the patch notes, so I assume it's a bug.

[reef jasper]

Recon rework (maybe make it a pulse ability ?)

FCAR headshot multi down to 2.0x instead of 2.5x to even out fights

[waxen granite]

This patch made me realize how little the devs play their own game. Recon senses is busted. the cheaters are actually ruining tournaments. People cant play because of server issues and being kicked randomly. Easy anti cheat is ass. The Devs just don’t even care anymore they got a little bit of money and are now just chilling.

[molten trail]

the issue is 100% recon sense. u could give mediums a terrible pistol or something with less damage output, but the information u get from recon is still too valuable. u shouldn't know where the enemy spawns or where they're coming from 24/7. u shouldn't always know where to prefire and prenade and premine. players should rely more on audio and game sense and other gadgets like sonar nade or thermal vision in order to spot enemies, and not a legal wallhack feature

[hard wasp]

Recon shouldn't even be reworked. It should be literally taken out of the game. Wallhacks have been one of the banes of FPS games for 2 decades alongside aimhacks. There is no need for such bs.
Take it out of the game and replace it with defib instead as an ability. 2 birds with one stone, you have some balance.

[fallow flume]

Hi! Do you think in the future we could set our announcer dialogue to different languages? I would really like if I could change it to Japanese of possible. Changing the games text language via steam do not change the announcers! I'd like to see this in season 2 if possible. Otherwise great game, runs smooth, stupidly fun even when bricking and feeding. Though we did have a glitch where we we couldn't join a match without rebooting in this patch with my friend nelly. I won't mention anything on cheaters, I can't tell if most are true or if people are just upset they lost. Having moved from PS5 to Steam recently I'm not sure what the actually stats of cheaters vs real players.

Stay Safe Devs! Can't wait for more!

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a bow

[quick coyote]

Recon Senses HUD Suggestion: Have it place a coloured dot on the compass for each enemy when it is toggled on, so that it is effectively a 2D spot rarther than ESP/Wallhack. Then a Recon can communicate to their teammates "NW" for example as well as reducing it's power when it comes to prefire/prenade/distance particularly around elevation and chokepoints. It will also incentivise usage of the compass and communicating with their team.

TLDR; 2d spot instead of 3d spot will create balance around direction, not where they are in 3d space.

[minor gale]

I disagree. If Recon Sense information was always as dominant as you'd imply, it should've been overrunning tourneys and casual beforehand within medium fullstacks or LMH teams, but it's in huge contest with healing beam before 1.5. That isn't really the case though, especially since the lethality and impact from a lot of L and H weapons beforehand were pretty successful at overturning M damage even with the advantage. Right now, M just has some of the best general-purpose gear to delete people, and recon feeds that fire really hard.
also I thought M was supposed to be more of a support, not a full multi-purpose workhouse. That, and premining/prenading, callouts, etc. seems to 100% be the point of information like that anyway.

[worthy helm]

every single good player is running recon when tryharding, they only swap because its boring. Good players recognized recon was beyond broken long before latest patch, the noobs are now catching up on it.

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[thorn elbow]

oh yea i keep dying from my own explosive damage so much even tho i throw my shit sooo far from me, they'll say bug but it's just to make heavy even less relevant

[short cove]

true

[keen dragon]

please add a way to see challenges in game

[digital shoal]

I want the ability to custom name my loadouts.

[sour bane]

Thoughts on update 1.5 from a ranked player

• Light -- honestly, the nerfs on invis/stun/DB feel fine for me. I never used DB, so it doesn't affect me. Invis/Stun nerfs only affects bad Lights, which, unfortunately there's a lot of, so that's fine for me. 3.75 seconds to kill even a Heavy is plenty time.
• Heavy -- I am very happy that RPG/Nukes got nerfed, and it feels much better to play against now. I like that the RPG nerf is a break point nerf, and not a complete destruction of the weapon. Good signs.
• Medium -- Mediums barely being touched (both Recon and Defib) was a bit of a head scratcher, and naturally with L and H being toned down, ranked now is primarily MMM, all teams having at least 1 recon sense, providing perfect information at all times during rotations, fights, engagements, etc. Attached some screenshots from ranked last night
• MMM solified as the meta also means chain Defib is common across all my ranked games, and it's exceptionally frustrating to play against, because it's awarding poor positioning and poor plays because you can simply get Defibbed by being overly aggro. I don't think poor positioning and over aggression in a team game should be instantly nullified. In Overwatch, you only needed to kill one Mercy to get rid of resurreciton, but in The FInals, you need to kill an entire team of Ms to not get deaths instantly Defibbed. Not very fun, or very balanced, because every team is encouraged to run all M.
• Combined with FCAR being one of the best guns in the game, Recon Sense, Defib, and the movement of Meds (Jump Pad + Zipline), it means M is the ideal class to play. I'm not saying L and H aren't viable, but M is by far right now the best and easiest class to get team value out of.

I hope Embark sits down and play their game a little bit to understand what the tournaments/ranked games feel like these days. I think they are maybe gathering some more data + being thoughtful of the rework first? Hopefully.

[shrewd vine]

Recon just needs to be removed, like as a recon medium main its just dumb. Wallhacks in FPS are legitimate cancer. MAYBE there's a world where its changed enough to be not OP, but I don't think Embark is up to the task frankly.

[meager rain]

"Fatal Error" on game start -what is this? i updated nvidia driver and this happened

[hearty jasper]

holy fucking shit PLEASE rewasd eac patch. make it an emergency patch at this point oh my lord

[civic osprey]

People just hadn't caught on to it yet. You get killed literally off spawn now, especially in the final round against three of them. Had a game vs that last night, hail of bullets right of spawn, couldn't even get near the point.

[stone crown]

There are multiple causes for a "fatal error" you need to provide more information to get more accurate help

[vast jetty]

THANKS for the caps lock

[quick coyote]

1. They've tried. There's a million work arounds for people wanting to use it regardless what the devs do.
2. A lot of cheating you see has nothing to do with rewasd (wallhack, instant kills, shooting through the map, etc.).

[fleet meadow]

"aim assist is not working"
literally 7 games with aim assisting (or aimboting) pistols, who killing you 100-150m away

[quick coyote]

nERF FCAR THANKS

[vernal girder]

Defib should revive with 20% health and no protection whatsoever - meaning if you defib while in the middle of an open area and being shot the revivee usually dies immediately again. It should encourage players to pick up the body token and move to some safety... you still get an immediate revive, but no more of this nonsense in the middle of a fight with no shield or anything

[dapper cliff]

add recoil to fcar

[molten trail]

i disagree even more. Recon should be removed in a hotfix patch. The devs have no clue how badly it is ruining the game. im one of many people taking a break just because its exhausting and repetitive to play against every match

Defib + healing gun are op yeah, they need nerfs too, but recon just gives everyone wallhacks and it feels like ur cheating against cheaters with wahllhacks because ur both prefiring each other and tracking each other through walls, its a bit goofy and silly

[timber iris]

Please do something about hacker having complexity helping their friends pushing rank on asia server are just cancer, getting ban from playing with hacker or something like other game. Mostly they are from China players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg7qG6ITa1c&ab_channel=AceedzBurn

[quiet lily]

release it on mobile xd

[waxen granite]

Embark devs proved with this patch that they don’t deserve any more of our money. Recon needs to be removed. Easy anti cheat is so ass it makes me want to soak my hands in chemicals. The fcar is busted. Lights are not viable. Devs got some money now they don’t give a shit. Its actually crazy how cool they were in the betas but since they got some battle pass money they think their job is done.

[limber sonnet]

Anyone know if there are anyplans to tweak punishments for leaving ranked matches? I had a buddy just get a ban because his game crashed and he tried to rejoin the same match but it wouldn't let him.

I understand there needs to be a punishment for people that leave tourneys, im all aboard with that, I just hope they tweak it so crashes don't equal a ban.

[worn spade]

Just came on today after the latest update (Xbox Series X|S) Mouse and keyboard is completely removed, I have no idea why, and i kinda don't want to play the game any more, movement feels too slow and clunky on controller.

[undone cobalt]

Disable melees in ranked until you fix whatever this is 💀

[minor gale]

Agree to disagree. TL;DR though mediums need to be cut down imo. It's kinda insane how much utility, damage, and information they have without really earning it in any skillful way

[modern wedge]

TESCO ITS YOU

[eternal apex]

So are we gonna get ranks back once 20% of the player base gets banned for cheating or are you guys gonna keep pretending easy anti cheat is gonna work

[next meadow]

No idea if its only me, but the games performance seem to have chunked pretty heavily post 1.5.0. Used to get around 150fps but now I'm barely hanging around 60 at times. then again it could just be my potato PC

[dawn sand]

why is Medium wallhack fcar still the thing bruh

[dark night]

las vegas is lowkey poorly optimized compared to the rest of the maps. everyone i play with says they get less frames on it

[daring fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[misty wasp]

It would be great to have an option to match with players using the same type of controller, such as matching mouse users with other mouse users. This seems like a fair solution to balance the aim assist feature for controller players and the potential abuse of aim assist on PC. In my opinion, aim assist distorts the ranking system, as it compels players to use it to keep up with others in higher rankings who are using it.

[oak rivet]

Would greatly appreciate left hand view model option

[dry lichen]

Somebody wrangle their child

[uncut pier]

this update brought lag and it is awful............ and FPS loss

[quick coyote]

You know how you could cut them down?
Not giving them a free cheaters pass with recon. It's always been extremely meta (why wouldn't it?), if you haven't noticed or disagree with that then it's simply a skill issue.

[cunning ravine]

What do you mean I get a Light out of Invis and they go right back on invis before I can shoot my shotgun again? They took two steps and slid and got back into invis.

Nerf your abilities all around and focus on the gun play, that's where the skill is and the fun is. This is never seen as an ability shooter, just a shooter with abilities because of how realistic the shooting is and the guns rooted the guns are to reality.

[quick coyote]

Recon sense should be 10m and no longer (also way noisier when someone uses it)

Fcar is OP

[muted drift]

When you wait for rankeds, you should be available to play in small rounds (like in ow)

[stoic vine]

Please fix the game feeling ass. I have had fps drops and stuttering in close fights since release but something feels worse this update. Getting a lot of no Reg bullets.

[languid breach]

Fix your game for real idk what yall are doing but you're losing players by the day

[waxen granite]

Embark sold some battle passes and now they're just like "Okay guys recon meta goo brr everyone run medium recon and fcar" Make suree to sheck out the shop and give us more money.

[indigo condor]

get a pc

[gilded ivy]

that’s very helpful feedback im sure embark will find this very useful in improving their game 👍

[molten trail]

remove recon so teams don't have wallhacks and 24/7 callouts through walls and it'll resolve all of the issues you mentioned. Not sure how you can disagree with that. Why does recon need to be part of the game so badly. Why not just remove it and add something more sensible?

ppl are so desperate to fix it or nerf it and i'm sure that's what embark will do by just adjusting the numbers until ppl stop crying, but there's literally 10000000 things you could add to the game that aren't a literal free wallhack.

[tough topaz]

Everyone knows that FPS games were made to be played with a mouse and keyboard, no one complained about this support before the release of this update, such a downgrade to the game. I already uninstalled it.

[sour bane]

Thoughts on update 1.5 from a ranked player

• Light -- honestly, the nerfs on invis/stun/DB feel fine for me. I never used DB, so it doesn't affect me. Invis/Stun nerfs only affects bad Lights, which, unfortunately there's a lot of, so that's fine for me. 3.75 seconds to kill even a Heavy is plenty time.
• Heavy -- I am very happy that RPG/Nukes got nerfed, and it feels much better to play against now. I like that the RPG nerf is a break point nerf, and not a complete destruction of the weapon. Good signs.
• Medium -- Mediums barely being touched (both Recon and Defib) was a bit of a head scratcher, and naturally with L and H being toned down, ranked now is primarily MMM, all teams having at least 1 recon sense, providing perfect information at all times during rotations, fights, engagements, etc. Ranked was 95% MMM last night.
• MMM solified as the meta also means chain Defib is common across all my ranked games, and it's exceptionally frustrating to play against, because it's awarding poor positioning and poor plays because you can simply get Defibbed by being overly aggro. I don't think poor positioning and over aggression in a team game should be instantly nullified. In Overwatch, you only needed to kill one Mercy to get rid of resurreciton, but in The FInals, you need to kill an entire team of Ms to not get deaths instantly Defibbed. Not very fun, or very balanced, because every team is encouraged to run all M.
• Combined with FCAR being one of the best guns in the game, Recon Sense, Defib, and the movement of Meds (Jump Pad + Zipline), it means M is the ideal class to play. I'm not saying L and H aren't viable, but M is by far right now the best and easiest class to get team value out of.

I hope Embark sits down and play their game a little bit to understand what the tournaments/ranked games feel like these days. I think they are maybe gathering some more data + being thoughtful of the rework first? Hopefully.

[tame sparrow]

BAN THESE FUCKINIG HACKERS! GUY IS ELIMINATING EVERYONE WITH NORMAL ATTACK WITH HAMMER

[quick coyote]

Just change recon to pulse who decided wall hacks was a great idea I don't know what the playtests were for fr

[modern wedge]

add a proper suggestions channel where we can vote for good viable suggestions

[undone jay]

Change matchmaking cause low rank (silver/gold) soloQ are playing versus diamond premades. It's not even fair and It's frustating af

[sand sable]

Have you considered to make recon work a little like the lights dash ability? So you can trigger it 3 times where you see everyone for a second or two.. and like 15-20sec cooldown for each trigger...

[chrome moon]

First sensible thing I’ve seen posted in awhile.

[harsh pier]

Not sure if has been already asked, but there are any plans to change/customize background colors?
That vibrant red color leads to eyestrain and headaches.

[lofty tusk]

fix ranked elo loss, i should not lose any or far less then normal if 1 teammate never even joins

[daring fossil]

RPG should one-shot lights, it could have been nerfed other ways, but that takes effort and Embark doesn't seem up to the task, sledge hammer heavies have no way to defend themselves from a distance now. Nukes got nerfed from being able to throw them 100m to being able to throw them 5 feet, it was a little extreme, and the damage nerf to C4 did nothing. They should have made C4 add a bit of weight (not a tonne like it is now) and made C4 like breach charges (after placing one, have to wait for a cool down to place the second, only breach charges are like this) and that would have stopped most of the double-c4 nukes. I'm a light main and I think the heavy got nerfed into oblivion. now they die more often than not to their own nukes, unless using the red canister. I mean, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the fact that ranked has ZERO heavies in it now, speaks volumes.

I can see the loud minority of terrible light players are all online right now

[turbid galleon]

please make the game modfiers the NUMBER ONE announcement priority. So fucking tired of dying to dead go boom and then seeing the active modifier message pop up 30 seconds later

[quick coyote]

Wait console kids have had keyboard and mouse + AA????

Why is it that light pistols out dmg a grenade launcher?

Nerf fcar....

[hollow dune]

👀

[sour bane]

Uses Sledgehammer, and complains they have no range. Get good and use a gun.

Bro really said in a public channel that he can't hit one bullet after one RPG 💀 and letting the world know. delete your message man

[molten trail]

still too op. just remove it and add something more interesting that isn't a wallhack

[visual basin]

How can a large just rocket himself and do like 2 percent of his health but all of mine, its kinda annoying and takes no skill whatsoever.

[brittle turret]

yep

[quick coyote]

People say Fcar is op but on console i gotta play AK cause i fail too many bullets

[gloomy wraith]

Im Medium player and that nuke bs was too op And Broken just bcs u cant get a teamwipe w ur nuke doesnt mean they have to buff it again get good heavys have diffrent roles then teamwiping with 1 nuke they gotta be a TANK not a Oneshot nuking mf

[fleet coral]

Cant believe there's still ppl who doesnt know beta or playtest thing. Wtf

[cunning stag]

Who said that? The only ones with AA on MnK were these people from PC that were using a program to trick the game.

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[tacit aspen]

Uninstalled this game will come back when you fix ranked

[quick coyote]

for years not just year. Years. Honestly who let them cook

[astral abyss]

The FCAR does not need a nerf. It's got enough recoil (which is already tough to control for controller players) and only 20 bullets. We just need to have LMGs and the AKM buffed a little so they can compete at medium-long range.

[quick coyote]

The Beta was honestly funner. I was so excited to come home from work and play the Beta but the game in it's current state is bad. It's only gotten worse.

[daring fossil]

clearly you didn't read my post before you down-voted it and then responded like a child. you should take your own advice.

@gloomy wraith jesus christ, fucking read before you respond to people. I'm a light main you fucking dunce, the only time I play heavy is when im forced to for contracts which I don't have to do anymore because ive already maxed out progression. my suggestion was to still nerf nukes, just in a different way, jesus christ zoomers have no reading comprehension or attention span. Nobody is even playing heavies now.

[deft thicket]

There is a bug with binding a second input for an action. Once the menu is closed it deletes the original input. Also, if you change the jump bind, you can no longer use spacebar to raise the free camera. Can there be separate controls for free camera please?

[sand sable]

They will again play heavy after medium gets the needed nerf and then it could be fine again
Heavy still very strong they just removed the noob tactics wich didnt need any amount of skill
Right now they play medium because its op

[hollow dune]

chill that's how diamond rank YouTubers make their content

[quick coyote]

Pulse recon with charge and each charge refilling would be cool.

Nerf fcar

[finite dew]

all the people that disagree are medium main d riders

[ripe solar]

Nerf Flamethrower

[idle totem]

As a heavy main, i think it should one shot with a direct hit. Add a 10 damage when a rocket direct hit and bam it's fixed. Nuke nerf are a good thing though, shit was OP, now it's still doable but we see a lot less of them.

[bleak vector]

Thank you for keeping the wall hacks.. I mean recon senses in the game. It makes my medium build the best 🔥

[lofty tusk]

hit a bug that stops the use of my primary fire, i could not shoot or throw anything, changing the hotkey for it didnt change anything was just not working

[quick coyote]

I, too, would like to thank the devs for letting me use my cheats- I mean ability freely in the game.

[sour bane]

as a heavy main, i think you should learn to shoot one bullet after a rpg launch. i know it's a lot to ask for though. may i suggest using a controller with aim assist?

[plush solstice]

Thank you for nerfing RPG ❤️ best change minus removing aim assist ❤️

[high wing]

nice nerf to nuke. NOT

[wanton quarry]

What AA?

Embark - Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5. tysm

[vast jetty]

Game is so badly optimized that my PC blue screened and shut down???

[daring fossil]

embark keeps listening to these idiots and its ruining the game.

@sour bane and what are sledge hammer heavies supposed to do? throw a flower pot at them?🙄 50 IQ take

[undone cobalt]

Me, a heavy having an rpg that does 90% splash dmg struggling to kill a person who has to mag dump into me meanwhile all I need to do is press q or simply pull out my 2 tapping shotgun or 5 tapping lewis gun to counter their push (they're fast and smaller so I need aoe instakill)

[smoky gust]

damn, its almost like someone running a melee weapon should be weak on long range
just a though though

[quick coyote]

Wait but console never officially had MkB support so it was treating console Mouse + Keyboard like a controller, thus AA? Right?

• Nerf fcar
• Switch recon sense to a pulse/charge ability
• Buff CL and off meta weapons
• Make revolver aim consistent.

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[tiny grail]

Honestly recon would make more sense for light, because it would cost them their invis/movement abilities, and they don't have the same strength in fighting head-on

[sand sable]

Have you considered to make recon work a little like the lights dash ability? So you can trigger it 3 times where you see everyone for a second or two.. and like 15-20sec cooldown for each trigger...

[hollow dune]

how about the team just remove invisibility and Recon all together 🤷‍♂️

[daring fossil]

its almost like they could have made the RPG a skill-based weapon instead of a swap-to-fire within 1 second for free kill weapon, and then they nerfed it into the ground instead of fixing the real problem because of people trying to pick fights with a heavy they shouldn't be and then whining about it when they die.

[scenic idol]

The only setting u need to change is zoom sens (not the scoped zoom sens). That fixed every single one of my friends AA problems

[velvet oyster]

yeah they cranked everyones ADS sens up so you just rip right past the reticle friction

[quick coyote]

*N E R F F C A R * now!

[quick coyote]

I didn't even noticed there was any friction at all.

[finite dew]

all medium mains are biased about this update, with only one class being viable in ranked, this game will lose a major part of the player base if this isn’t reverted. RPG should one shot lights because if you get stunned with it out you die, and if you hit yourself you take 270 and are 3 shot. Mediums should have recon reworked, heals should be capped lower. FCar don’t really need to be nerfed, just more recoil or stronger recoil pattern. Lights should be kept the same, maybe xp54 ammo size nerf, maybe slight dmg buff. Heavies should get their 1100 shield back or give our bubble more health, don’t nerf both. C4 should be slightly weighted, barrel size + # of c4. Smoke canister + 2 c4 should not move the same as 2 c4 + fire canister. Just a thought, but you guys are killing the game. Movement also got fucked, revert it, it was perfectly fine. (Only medium d riders would 🤡 this, y’all are the problem)

[tiny grail]

Honestly I like that. Maybe make it a pulse that starts at your location and spreads out, and have the highlight of where they were when the pulse hit linger a little bit instead of being a continuous update or instantly revealing farther away positions. Still strong because you still get the info on where people are pushing from or defending, just not as consistently or immediately.

Also, @quick coyote , on the FCAR, I would rather see other things be buffed to match than it nerfed.

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[sand sable]

The pulse with delay idea i like,
The buff weapons not really as i like the finals ttk being higher than other games and id prefer to nerf things that are (at least in my opinion) too strong to keep the ttk high..

Also PLEASE fix console aim asap because the game is not palyable anymore

[proud ocean]

The default value they suggest (60) still feels different and weird from before the patch. They screwed up the values a bit….

[frail prawn]

Yeah, pulse sounds pretty nice

FCAR its too overpowered, its literally la laser beam that can kill anything in a second, yes, some hings need buffs but FCAR does need some kind of nerf, it has range, damage and fire rate

[olive epoch]

REMOVE RECON

[smoky gust]

nerfed it into the ground?
you need to hit them once for them to die

given, that's a bit harder when you're melee only, so here are a few things you can do as sledge heavy when a light approaches:
-charge at them and bonk them (if the charge itself didn't already kill them)
-block with mesh shield until you are in a favorable position or they retreat
-shoot them with the goo gun to make them get stuck, you can now approach and hit them
-use a dome shield to block damage
-use any grenade (instant effect grenades like pyro will be a great choice, since any damage will kill them after being hit by the rpg)
-use a goo grenade to make cover, should they run around it without a save distance, they will be easy to hit

that is if they don't just retreat straight away, because who in their right mind fights a heavy while at 5 hp?

all of this helps if you play where you are weak, you should obviously try to position yourself where you are at your strongest (a.k.a. indoors/around corners), where just running at them will often be enough to either kill them or intimidate them into a retreat

heavy has plenty of options to outplay light, even with a sledge and the rpg remains a great deterrent and utility/destruction tool that now just doesn't one-shot light but instead leaves them at 5 hp

[midnight nest]

Hi

[quick coyote]

The time to kill on fcar is just way too low right now, I would be fine with leaving it as be if they raised every classes health by 20-30%

This doesnt seem like the type of game where "if you peek you die insta" would be good for the game play.

[undone cobalt]

How is it nerfed to the ground? You could literally double rpg double nuke double shield with 2 heavies on your team 💀 it was not balanced at all
Even as a heavy player he has too much killing power with a shotgun that 2 taps everything non heavy, a really good LMG, an rpg that basically instakills lights (destroys terrain too), c4s (also destroys terrain), 2 shields that can cover both teammates and himself

[daring fossil]

those are some good suggestions and I applaud you for not being a childish dickhead like everyone else on here. but my opinion still stands. It's a fucking RPG, it should one-shot everything, but that I understand would actually be overpowered, so instead they could have slowed the swap-to-fire speed, and lowered the projectile velocity a bit and made it so only direct hits one-shot, making it still a viable utility, but also requiring skill and giving lights and mediums an actual chance to react to it. (and it leaves them with 10hp, not 5)

[unique galleon]

Not sure what happened, but the game went from having decent controller support to borderline none. I'm sure everyone's aware already unless it's just me. That is all.

[stiff linden]

there is a bug where people can steal without being close to the cash out machine... if they start stealing and the box moves they can still steal

[green root]

its horrible, even with a pro controller with custom settings

[wind frost]

Please do some to medium class. Every ranked diamond game is 75% medium recon fcar, and/or medium fcar heal on mesh shield heavy. It's really fucking boring.

[rancid kelp]

are there no plat players online like i only get bronzse and silver teamates when im plat how does matchmaking work??????????????

[patent solstice]

Meta in ranked before patch 1.5.0: HMM / HMH
Meta after : MMM

Why even bother having a Light class in the game?

It is baffling at the least that you guys made no improvements towards viability of Lights in Ranked after a so called "Major Update". BS!

[sour bane]

last nights ranked 🙂 and yes, every team ran at least one recon sense

[carmine flare]

As a Diamond 3 player. I can confirm this is hellah annoying.

[wary hazel]

here's some valuable feedback: nerf mediums to the ground

[hoary turtle]

Would LOVE some Lore to the game. Tell us Scott’s history as a contestant, IF he’s ever been one, create some badass boss type contestants that won “the final round” and some history maybe ? Idk the right way to ask for it but the gameplay is already amazing , imagine a little back story to be more immersive(the game is immersive but can’t complain about more ) something like overwatch does, but better. I’d love feedback on my request too , if it sounds dumb I’m willing to accept that I just have lame interest ! Have a great day.

[vast quail]

a lot of games like this currently, almost the entire lobby has a bad kd due to recon spam and defib zombies

[sick parcel]

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[wise zinc]

Add keyboard to console but require cross play to be enabled to use it

[quick coyote]

Delete recon and add Winston overwtch to the game. Or else

[quick coyote]

Just fcar and recon.

IDEA!!!!! Make all specialties super OP, buff them crazy, but make them an ult that charge over time/kill/objective score.

[soft haven]

I had the idea for a weapon switch system. Put permanent weapon lockers on the map that switch your current and reserve weapon when you interact with it

[pale moon]

I'm sad that xbox lost keyboard and mouse support. It's honestly ruined my experience. I specifically bought a mouse and keyboard to play this game on xbox.

[crude cave]

Man I tell you what I've been looking high and low for something more inviting than six hours of Rockhound's EEH content. The Easter Eggs are cool, but the world for this game is not fleshed out

[quick coyote]

So what does it look outside of the virtual stadium? How do the announcers actually look like and how long his this game show been going?

[smoky gust]

a slower swap-to speed would only have mattered inside of fights
nothing stops a heavy from just having it out at all times while rotating just in case a light strolls by
which is where light is normally supposed to shine

a lowered projectile speed would also not have helped much, since most 1-shots happened at pretty close ranges
the speed downside only adds up over long distances, so unless you were gonna cut it by more than 50% it would also not have done much

and as far as I know you already needed a direct hit for a 1-shot on lights, so that wouldn't have been new

maybe you imagine it differently but I think that the way it is now is better than what you're thinking of

(edit: remember, we can always just agree to disagree)

[daring fossil]

no, its not direct hit. just within like 3-5 feet, with the random deviation they already added and my other suggestions, I think it would have been a better fix. If you miss within 3-5 feet then sure, leave lights with 10hp. the rpg being used inside fights is where 90% of the lights complained about it, I've died from a heavy swapping-to and firing the RPG before it even showed their player model holding it (that's an issue with the terrible interpolation though). As a light main though, I've always accepted (in most cases) that if I died by an RPG, it was my own fault

[twilit hawk]

Such a problem in the game, start in the game and throws out in the lobby with an error TFGE0000. Maybe someone who has faced and can help with the solution! thx

[tall trout]

If Light is invis Traps and turrents shouldn't target you

[flat shale]

the finals removed keyboard and mouse last update from Xbox so I made this song so the devs might listen https://clipchamp.com/watch/GrKWomuKTRx

[wary hazel]

not enough. triple medium filth is broken regardless. triple healing beam is disgusting, defib is completely disgusting
and ultimates sound like an unnecessary complication to justify the lack of balance which just rubs me the wrong way.

[pale crane]

STOP ONE SHOT WITH HAMMER !

[grim steeple]

How are they getting in hammering range of you?

[hoary turtle]

I agree. Apparently my comment was laugh worthy but I meant it from a good place. I love this game so much, and I would not complain about seeing some bad ass cinematic. Some lore, even a small but would be awesome. The EHH is cool for sure but the world needs a little more.
You have people here that don’t care for what we want, and you have people that don’t want but gotta prove the point that they don’t want the lore or whatever I’m trying to describe

[quick coyote]

I don't think it's fair that FCAR has the smallest clip of all the automatic weapons. Lights and heavies have an unfair advantage. Please buff FCAR to 30 for fairness!!!!

[patent solstice]

<@&1009839355801636904> <@&1012034066876473384>
You all did a good job building this wonderful game and i heartfully thank you for it.

I only have 80-90 hrs in game and i know for a fact that light is definitely not viable in ranked.

How come your team missed to notice it?

I appreciate you all for listening to the community. But seriously, PLAYING YOUR OWN GAME would have better results.

[sonic drum]

please give the AKM 34 more bullets in it mag

[crude cave]

I'm not sure. I think it's year 2100 in-game, which is why they specify it on the maps. I honestly haven't dived too deep into the EEH stuff yet. I know there's some really dedicated people out there working on it, and my hat is off to them.

However, I'd really like to see more from Embark on this. There's minimal to no flavor text in-game, which is a significant part of the issue. Jumping out of the game to look at wikis, the information provided is something like: "there are sponsors, they're the logos you see in game". Which I would call pretty minimal info.

I want to know more about the "meatspace". Are we dealing with a Neuromancer situation here? Some sort of Altered Carbon "the Finals is your only ticket out of crushing poverty" sort of thing? Is everyone underground bc of environmental disasters, which is why the game is virtual?

Folks in here are going to call me a nerd because I'm not bitching about balance changes. I get that. Lots of people are more competitive than I am.

@hoary turtle I hear you.

[vast quail]

MMMMMMMMFCARDEFIBRECONMMMMMMMMMMM

[manic aspen]

nerf red can nukes, a gadget shouldn't one shot a medium

[royal flume]

Please fix the ranked matchmaking system. Not sure if it’s sbmm or eomm but it needs tweaking for sure. When every match has everything from bronze to diamond I’m not so sure that’s either skill based or engagement optimized.

[quick coyote]

how about don't tag the devs?

[daring fossil]

there's a cheat right now (that embark already tried to fix) that lets heavies with sledge one-shot you from outside actual hammer range

[frail prawn]

General Feedback

I genuinely thanks to the devs for all the work you did on balancing the RPG and Nukes (the C4 weight change was good, the C4 dmg nerf wasn't that necessary), even when I'm a Light main I'm happy to see than Nukes didnt got removed since that kind of freedom its what makes this game so good

Some points that I found on the recent patch:

• Baseball skin: Give back the old charged attack swing animation that was removed, it was very cool and original to the weapon skin

• Dagger: in this recent patch due to the change of the crit hitmark, it has been removed from the backstab, its not just than it feels better to hear the "ping" crit and see the golden hitmark but also it was a good way to tell if you hit a proper backstab, now lacks a visual or sound difference between a backstab and a failed stab unless you see the enemy hp (vid 1).

Alongside with the dagger, I really think backstab needs a fix or a rework since its so inconsistent due to the so long startup animation letting enemies to move spontaneously and preventing the backstab, it could be a hold or an instantaneous with a long end animation to prevent the spam (than its probably the reason you added the startup in first place) (vids 2-4)

• Throwable Knives: Thanks so much I now can see the cards as a projectile, I love it, I don't think its a need but it would be nice an increase on the projectile speed or the shooting rate alongside with decreasing/deleting the dispersion when jumping, sliding since its really high chance to fail in those situations for an already so hard to land weapon (vid 5)

• Recon sight: it really needs a rework, I played with it and you can literally know where anyone spawn or is at any moment, it could be a mapwide sonar pulse with charges (like 2-3) instead of an skill than its always active

• Defib: Please just remove the respawn protection only when revived by a defib and it would be nice

• And again, thanks so much

[sly sonnet]

For Ranked games. please remove penalty of losing points when the game starts and your team only has 2 players. As much as i hate losing becuase I get a poop-tier player (Bronze) they are at least doing something (most of the time) but starting a ranked match with only 2 players is nonsense. Adding a prompt to forfeit penalty free for not having a full team (for ranked) would also be much appreciated.

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E F U C K İ N G W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[flat shale]

the finals removed keyboard and mouse last update from Xbox so I made this song so the devs might listen https://clipchamp.com/watch/GrKWomuKTRx

[visual basin]

R E M O V E F U C K İ N G W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[hoary turtle]

Yes I agree. And I’m willing to be called a nerd myself
cough @wind frost
And that’s okay. I like being a nerd. Atleast I’m having fun, and would ALSO enjoy making The Finals universe a bit more interesting.
I like what you said about the dates, like let us know what’s going on in their world! It being a virtual game show is already super interesting , but imagine the potential!
I’d love some back story on some of the sponsors! Would be sweet, because the logos are already sweet!
It’s okay not to be a sweat man, not all of us are. Some of us are parents , don’t live at home, work full time, etc. I’m happy that I’m a casual player. Imagine the extra stress they carry. Hey, let’s hope together! Hopefully they see the convo, and even a response saying “no” would be some closure, I’m just waiting to find out. @quick coyote yeah those are great questions. Shoot give us some official art work even.

[hallow ruin]

R E M O V E F U C K İ N G W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[wind frost]

R E M O V E F U C K İ N G W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[sullen shoal]

R E M O V E F U C K İ N G W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

[wary hazel]

remove medium from the game 🙂

[dense niche]

Guys please no spam. Post your feedback in a constructive manner.

[glass fjord]

Day 342 of asking for some basic changes if they're not going to remove it: reduce the range to anything less than the ENTIRE MAP, and make it ping like sonar.

[reef galleon]

🇳 🤡 🇴

[patent solstice]

Noted.

I hope you must have understood the current state of the game from these beautiful men and handsome women in the chat already.

I understand this game's potential and i pray for this to be a dream FPS game and hence my grief.

Please, make BETTER changes in your next patch!

[quartz lake]

Is the game fully out?

[vast quail]

I suggest that they remove recon from the game

[north dew]

If you would, perhaps, remove the wallhacks, that would be good !

[south brook]

I just want steam deck support. Seeing the easy anti cheat window just closing makes my blood boil

[sour bane]

4x the headshot damage too!!

honestly if i have recon and fcar, give fcar bullet penetration!! whats the point of seeing people through walls if i cant shoot them?

[plucky torrent]

Track pvp deaths so we can see actual pvp k/d ratios

[eager raven]

Day 2 of saying we need this

[brave quarry]

and 1000x better precision

[stray sage]

did the devs say competitive isn't their focus?

[visual basin]

hey just a little quirky and fun idea... mayyybe remove or nerf the damn free of charge wallhacks? 🖕

[wind frost]

I suggest that they remove wall hacks from the game, as it detrimental and shit. They can do this by selecting the part of the game code that codes for wall hack and fucking delete it.

🖕

[quick coyote]

Make defib to charge 3 sec

[shell jacinth]

Orrrr orrr here me out hear…. DONT BE DOGSHIT SKILL DIFF

[lime relic]

delete wallhacks
nerf the stun itself so i can at least aim down the fucking sights and actually have a chance at fighting back with anything that isnt a shotgun
do something about the defib (imo the on-revive immunity should go away but im not too sure about this)

[rocky verge]

Add Canmore map?

[pulsar flare]

Bro I was banned for no reason what are you on?

[wicked crest]

Why do I still have to play a match after my 2 teammates quit?

[vernal girder]

FCAR Medium Recon FCAR Medium Recon FCAR Medium Recon EVERY LOBBY in ranked
Went from an exciting, new dynamic game, to boring nothingness in one patch. No different than CoD with higher TTK at this point

[rustic maple]

please fix matchmaking, i dont want to play with people that have 2 braincells and no arms

[cunning kernel]

[CLOAKING DEVICE SHOULD BE A COOLDOWN BASED ABILITY NOT TOGGLE ]

[opal leaf]

My feedback is that this game is unbelievably good 😌

[smoky gust]

what if recon only showed you the enemy for like 1-2 seconds when activated?

you cant actively search for enemies, because it would take too long
(so it would mostly be useful in confirming your suspicion of enemies, rather than straight up telling you where they are)
so you would mostly either quickly get a rough idea of where people are just before you jump into a contested zone or when you are about assault a cashout
(perhaps this would also go well with changing it to only show you people that are moving and not crouching or standing still)

it can technically still be used to corner peaking enemies but if we combine it with a "you've been spotted" alert it would warn enemies to not peak for 2 seconds
if a medium now want to use it for this purpose they have to play riskier which may leave them vulnerable

[hallow ruin]

I suggest that they remove wall hacks from the game, as it detrimental and shit. They can do this by selecting the part of the game code that codes for wall hack and fucking delete it.

:seemen: 🖕

[fervent tree]

but how would shitters with no game sense play? Apex already shown that's the key to get cod players into their game; lets them carry on being braindead. But hey I quit for the 2nd and final time the week they release Seer...

I already had an issue with recon mediums (and just the sonar nades alone are INSANE, even though the target knows they were scanned) but since I saw the patch notes for 1.5 I haven't opened this game, I know it's going to be all mediums and wall cheats everywhere... like they literally buffed recon relative to cloak lol?

My heart is with xp54 light which i was mainly playing with cloak, but I ONLY went to cloak because I got pissed off by enemys with cloak, I don't want to have to play cloak, nor do I want to play wall cheats, which means I don't want to play this game.

You know the old "sniper problem" that the reward in playing sniper is 1 shotting and the down side is being squishy generally (or stupid high reload time etc)... well it's a shit game design thing, 1 shot sniper. Feels shit to play, feels shit to play against. This game just added invis and wall cheats both in a fairly extreme way because "oh we need more issues".

Overwatch guess what I play(ed)? sombra widow hanzo sojourn (or whatever they made broken that season)... why? Because if there is something totally broken, and usually invisibility, 1 shots, wall cheats, and literal no aim characters tend to be broken (oh "no aim"... that reminds me I also played genji early in ow2, because no mechanical skill character, nano blade lol gg) notice something about these kinds of characters though. EVEN when these characters are balanced for "win rate" they're still annoying for 90% of players in a match.

They're also why I don't play overp2watch anymore, well ok, actually it was game going p2w + rank becoming a joke that finally completely killed it for me, i just visit to smurf and troll now.

[obsidian berry]

Yo the new Meta after the update.... Just flat out sucks!!!

[harsh trail]

day 2️⃣5️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives bug fix/balance patch to make them a viable weapon option

the current throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior. some things i think could be done to resolve this issue:

🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 tighten spread of knives while sliding/sprinting (as they’re wildly inaccurate currently, it almost feels unintended)
🔪 allow right click to be held

please show some love to this weapon embark! i will not stop until we get something, i am begging. see you all on day 26!

[sudden spire]

A gun that can wall bang would be neat. Maybe A rail gun that can pass throw destructible surfaces? Give it to light for some more direct synergy with medium.

[quick coyote]

Give it to medium for more synergy with recon

Delete recon and change it to an autoaim like soldier 64 ult. Thank you.

Oh. And a cheeseburger and a medium soda

[daring fossil]

dispersion/spread when sliding/sprint/airborn needs to be removed entirely, even if that's JUST what they did, id be ok with it

[brittle ginkgo]

its soldier 69 🤓 👆

[rain axle]

Fix the bloom devs plz😐😐😐

[regal estuary]

https://i.imgur.com/WEwnQrj.jpeg ive found a bug... i cant shoot.. .gun is invisible

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[cyan tapir]

booooooooooo 🍅 🍅 🍅 🍅 🍅 🍅

[waxen granite]

I want the blunt they were smoking on when they thought of recon that shit must have been fire.

[sour bane]

Embark, pass that blunt, must be top shelf stuff releasing Recon Senses and 3x Defib

[wind frost]

Recon chaos unleashed. Predictable gameplay reign. Fun tainted by wayward game design. Unleashing frustration every patch.

[shell jacinth]

All of yall crying over recon are no skill losers plenty of other shit to complain about but we choose recon🥱 get ur priorities right i swap of medium and have almost no issues with recon fucks yall just literally dogshit one patch its one think another patch its something else they nerfed recon for yall and yall still cry SOFT TRASHCANS lemme tell ya yall cry about anything and can never be satisfied theirs plenty of other shit that hasn’t been touched in patches that need nerfed before another recon nerf or rework

[lime relic]

no swearing in class, timmy

[teal latch]

Braindead take.

[visual basin]

ratio nerd

[delicate narwhal]

On a completely different note: the flamethrower makes me so sad. 😦
It regularly loses fights to things like hammers and swords.
It feels like the best strat with flamethrower is to just light them on fire, then switch to Q-shield until they stop being on fire.

[vast quail]

L + Remove Recon + FCAR Abuser

[haughty mica]

fix Vegas spawns

[quick coyote]

Dev dont want communicate😭
I wanna know their thought

[edgy urchin]

buff scar

calm down liberals its called dark humor

[rocky verge]

Possible balancing ideas:

Recon senses recon senses shouldn’t reveal the whole screen that well, instead only reveal 30° angle in front clearly, invis will be unseen completely until in the 30° and everyone else will be much more transparent until put into the 30°

Invis: reduce audio range

Light: increase regen rate

Fcar: reduce fire rate and increase bullet damage

Light dagger: bring back cb1 maybe

Tazer: effect ends when damage taken, tazer should have sensitivity reduction when you get hit

Light knives: make the right click throw out faster but have a lil bit of spread, decrease headshot damage a lil bit

Heal beam: increase equip time

Heavy Lewis gun: increase falloff damage

Heavy MGL: decrease fire rate, increase AOE

Shotgun nerf: just reduce the fire rate

@edgy urchin “Erm technically that’s not dark humour” 🤓

[hexed panther]

so a sword does 350dmg but a rocket launcher doesnt do 150. nice balance

[pulsar flare]

Why'd you ping me?

[quick coyote]

heres a hot take: not every game is made for you. stop bitching

[vernal girder]

Here's the reality about FCAR Mediums (w Recon) is that there are multiple smaller OP components of the whole build.

FCAR is far and away the most oppressive gun in the game at ranges most other guns can't really effectively counter. Between the stupid little ACOG, the full auto accuracy at range, and headshot damage values it's a one way fight. It needs ROF and headshot modifier decreases.

Mediums themselves have an overpowered defib ability. Defib should have no revive protection - it should be used for a quick revive just outside of a fight, but should almost always fail if someone is revived directly into oncoming fire. At the very least. That and/or 1.5x+ cooldown. It needs to be further degraded compared to a "standard" revive.

Recon needs to just match its damn description - "falling off at range." You shouldn't be able to see anything beyond 25-50 yards max. I think the loud engine sound it makes actually provides for decent counterplay, but it's a bit silly to always be getting spied on in every corner of the map. With the right limitations to distance it would allow some players to actually escape when they are trying to get away to prevent the team wipe. The range is the largest issue far and away.

Also - the RPG doesn't need the inaccuracy now that they just nerfed the damage. It shouldn't miss when we aim directly at the elevated platform attach points.

[daring fossil]

Recon Senses

Increased activation cost from 1s to 1.5s

Decreased minimum charge time to activate from 2.5s to 2s

Yeah, totally nerfed, perfectly balanced free wallhacks with endless range.

In other news, please fix all the spawns facing you away from the objective or spawning you facing the edge of the map.

[sour bane]

I've never seen a community this pissed about lack of balance in a long time (not even Apex Seer/BH meta lasting for a year was like this). Bravo.

Good job Embark. You pissed off the nerds. Not entirely undeserved though. These abilities are head scratching overpowered.

I mean not even #medium-build-main is supporting the meta which should tell you something

[quaint vigil]

change recon sense to be 2 or 3 charges of a longer reveal recon grenade with significantly more range. Have it radiate from the players position. Having wall hacks is always going to be a very overpowered skill, but at least by putting forced cooldowns on it its more balanced. Make the recharge time very long too, much longer than what is achievable right now with proper management of the recon bar. It needs to fit more into the idea of giving support to your team rather than being a skill used for solo que or the new solo bank it mode

[sudden spire]

what i find funny is recon has been in the game this whole time. But for the first weeks everyone was saying "why would you ever not pick healbeam"

[sand sable]

Please fix console aim, the game is unplayable

[undone kestrel]

Stop complaining about recon sense you should ask yourself why you can’t win a gunfight against a person with nothing

[quick coyote]

You know what really grinds my gears? We dont have a roadmap. Embark thinks they're so cool they dont need a roadmap and yet they keep doing these awful patches out of sudden without telling anyone. "Surprise! We nerfed grapple! Take it."

Its only been a month so its still soon for a roadmap but they already said that they dont wanna do one cause it gives them time to adapt to feedback.

Who knows. In my case, im f'ked on ps5 and it happened all of sudden. I was having fun one day and the next was like a slap in the face, with a chair.

[shell jacinth]

Yall just aren’t good that simple been playing light all week crushing these recon fcks continue to cry and drink ur copium juice. Go play fortnite or sum no skill fcks🤣 like can we actually actually get a feel for the patch before we just start whining you big babies😭 they could nerf recon into the ground yall would still find something to complain about 🤦🏾‍♂️

[languid flame]

Global chat would be cool

[plucky torrent]

please nerf recon sense immediately

[visual basin]

yo bro how can i mag dump on a heavys face and still not win a fight

[smoky gust]

Heal beam needs teammates to work and a turret has setup time (and goes on cooldown)

This leaves us with recon (which can be enabled at any time) and enables you to pre-aim on your target (potentially their head), who itself doesn't know when you're coming around the corner

(I only play quick cash so I don't notice recon too much but it does seem clear why your comment is unhelpful)

[vast quail]

L + Remove Recon + FCAR Abuser

[clear crystal]

Remove recon senses and replace it with an actual utility ability since medium is supposed to be support

[regal estuary]

thats like saying a zen from overwatch is meant to be only support, the fcar does insane dmg per shot

[sharp belfry]

Congratulations on understanding.

[sly sonnet]

medium isnt suppose to be support. all 3 classes can support, just in different ways. Medium is more of a role filler

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.
Its time to let go. 🙏

• Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin
• Balance is just change value. No rework
• Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep peek wrong side.

[fading zenith]

ayo embark good C4 nerf! got only oneshot 5 times this round in plat ranked!

[still pewter]

embark give me a gazillion multibucks 🤑 🙏

[daring fossil]

this usually happens, no one knew about it, or no one had it unlocked, once people figured it out, it spread like the plague.

[sour bane]

Buff Medium

• give FCAR 20 more bullets and 4x headshot multiplier. Little rat Lights aren't dying fast enough
• Recon Sense should give bullet penetration. Wall hacks is useless when I can't shoot through the walls
• double the Turrets health to 400, it still takes a full clip to destroy it
• heal beam should grant invincibility when used, right now it's useless
• Jump Pad should explode on impact when used by enemies
• give us 100 more health, we're too weak

Also automatically ban Lights when you kill them

[edgy urchin]

Guys my opinions valid i swear checklist

• gotta have bullet points to make it look like i know what im talking about
• 5 hours total playtime and its entirely playing one class and refusing to switching
• "nerf meduim, buff light"
• guys this recent update isnt good because [random nonsense here]
• have like 30 reactions from people who lurk in this channel to complain instead of playing the game
• write a harry potter book of a suggestion just to get ignored by devs

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[kindred nest]

Why ppl complaint about console aim? There’s no problems just hit your shots or go to practice range and learn your gun

[shrewd vine]

Remove dead go boom, kills melee builds and forces engagements to be taken from a farther distance. Remove low gravity, severely reduces effectiveness of bounce pads since using them with low grav is suicide and incentivizes camping in a movement based game. Alien Invasion and Meteor Shower are at best neutral events with no interesting effects.

[quick coyote]

REMOVE THE FUCKING DEFIBRILLATOR. REMOVE RECON SENSES.

[visual basin]

Defib needs some type of cooldown

[humble pebble]

dead go boom is an abomination.

[native plank]

defib is good son

[solid narwhal]

Give console players kb&m support again, controller sssssssuuuuuuucccccckkkkkksssss

[cyan sky]

braindead asf. keeps the game interesting

[humble wave]

Please we need a server in africa

[regal estuary]

youve obv not played overwatch enough then.. .zen is just a dmg with some healing on the side.... in fact he does more instant dmg than sym will ever do.. with his orb and full charge he probably does as much or more than widow lol

[tiny grail]

No need to remove dead go boom, but make it like a creeper, giving it a charge up that allows you to get away as it activates. Still forces you to move around but doesn't hard counter any CQB. Ditto on Alien Invasion and Meteor Shower as I've like never noticed the effects.

[strong dawn]

They should at least make the text "Dead go boom active" a priority so you don't die by it without having a warning

[worldly barn]

rework defib to be lifeline res

[fervent tree]

"Medium is more of a role filler"
absolutely; it can fill the light role, the heavy role, and everything in between!

@daring fossil like aim bot assist on apex... I felt like wtf how many people cheating all of a sudden for about a week... then I find out too... sad day. First time I quit for a good while. Seer was the 2nd time I quit and forever... we managed to get over the first hurdle without actually uninstalling in this game... don't have much hope for the 2nd one.

[fading zenith]

only decent event thats ingame and healthy and actually allows you to use it for your benefit also fucks you up if you ignore it is laser, rest is antifun bs or nonexistent, im unsure about gravity one if its just aids for everyone or not

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.
Its time to let go. 🙏

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

[daring fossil]

i dont mind dead go boom, I just hate when it activates out of nowhere while im in a fight and gets me killed with nothing I can do about it. I've even had it activate immediately AFTER i killed someone, and they still blew up and killed me.

[wanton quarry]

Fix the AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[cunning kernel]

[•CLOAKING DEVICE SHOULD BE A COOLDOWN BASED ABILITY NOT TOGGLE ]

[•DEFIB SHOULD ONLY DO THE ANIMATION WHEN IN RANGE FOR RESURRECTION.. IT PREVENTS INSTANT REVIVES]

[reef jasper]

DEFIB SHOULD REPLACE RECON

[boreal fable]

Store suggestion:

• Add 4 new items (top row) every week with a 20% discount.
• The following week, move those items to the middle row with a 10% discount.
• The week after that, move them to the last row without a discount.

[sour bane]

I have no opinions I just want reactions 💯💯

[soft pawn]

THROWING KNIFE X DAGGER (MERGED):
I believe Throwing knives and dagger should be merged into 1 weapon. It would make it more viable. As the melee will do more damage and the dagger stab can be the alt fire and the quick melee can do more damage.

[pulsar flare]

yeah never understood why light has 9 weapons while the others get 6

[broken lake]

it's so we can be disappointed by even more of our loadout, lmao

[strong wave]

We need custom games please.

[tiny grail]

My only "issue" with dead go boom, despite me 100% enjoying the concept, is that it seems to overly punish CQB players. Doesn't do much of anything to people that normally fight at longer ranges. It should punish them by putting them at risk, not condemning them to death if they kill someone that just popped in front of them. Light classes really only have any advantage in surprise CQB fights, and dead go boom makes those nearly impossible to survive. Giving more time to get away would help with that, at least enough to get away after killing someone like 3 meters away.

@soft pawn Thoughts on letting light bring a melee as an alt weapon?

[limpid elbow]

The game dies with this meta as we can see statistically, if you don't react quickly it's over there's no point in lying

[untold timber]

Feel like the game is full of medium recons now, i hope we can tweak things to get the balance of picked classes back to more variety.

[brave quarry]

oh salut toi mdrrrr

[regal estuary]

your starting to make no sense... stop trying to prove whatever point your trying to make ( i dont even know anymore) by telling me how good at overwatch you are like wtf lmfao .... also flamthrower is so good i love it https://i.imgur.com/fWar0Na.png

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.
Its time to let go. 🙏

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.
  We already give many chance.

[potent lichen]

I just want to echo what others have been saying about removing recon; I believe it should be taken out or made like bloodhound's ability from Apex. I've used it many times and it has served to be very op, even with the recent "nerf"

[twilit lily]

Brother, player numbers have going trending downwards consistently. Even with the patch other day. Adding custom lobbies would just separate more players and make things worse. Custom games are GREAT for games with super healthy numbers and maintain those numbers after years. This game is about month 1/2 old and already down nearly 70%.
@limpid elbow Meta's don't kill games. Every single game has FULL SEASONS of metas. Most games don't tweak the meta/balance mid-season. The fact they did it here is already great because most make you wait til next season so people aren't impacted in the middle of their grind. And there are games that have been the same meta for AGES and they are still the literal top FPS games. Meta's aren't the problem. Having a fun/unique game is. This games artstyle is very generic, no characters to love/enjoy, no backstory for the game unless you do easter egg hunting and read a bunch of shit, character models are absurdly generic and male models look like complete ass. This game has no style and nothing really unique. Destruction is the MOST unique thing they have and that's been done plenty before already so nothing new there either.
ALSO, they've been adamant about not caring if this game is competitive. Which by default means this game will die fast anyway. Look at all the top FPS games that have been around for awhile and how many of them are "for fun" games? Maybe 1? And even that 1 has esports tournaments.

[maiden ember]

Thank god, we have a mmm-meta now ... you cant even stand a chance in finals vs 3 m

[visual basin]

opinions on a 3v3 regular ranked game? just one game and its 3v3 ranked if you win you go up, if you lose you go down ?

[reef jasper]

Replace recon with DEFIB

[sour bane]

Thank you Embark for the MMM meta I didn't even want to play the other classes anyways 💯💯💯

[sharp belfry]

This, and give medium glitch grenade to enforce support role and help balance MMM/HHH

[quick coyote]

Winton overwatch 🦍

[cosmic spear]

Any update on the aim assist settings not working?
Aim slowdown is completely broken and most of the settings do absolutely nothing anymore

[solid narwhal]

Kb&m support re-enabled on console would be a blessing from heaven, please 🙏 bring it back, it will make my dad come back with the milk and my mom come back with the cookies. Controller is hot garbage to play with, if pc has it why can't we?

[quick coyote]

Controller is still completely non functioning right now.

[rocky verge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-18178013888257763473

[sand sable]

Please fix controller aim the game is unplayable on ps5

[fading zenith]

i guess because they cant make it so if you are on console with MnK that you cant use aim assist, thats kinda weird tho. Having both aim assist and MnK is pure BS

[hoary turtle]

2 skins are equiping at a time!

[tiny grail]

I still don't even know if they look at this chat or if it's like scream into a pillow therapy lol. I'd be satisfied if they just had someone look through it once a day to go like "ooh that might be a good idea to relay to the dev team". I can certainly understand not speaking in this channel bc that would probably lead to off the rails arguments fast.

[fleet coral]

Its ok to keep this meta goes on for whoever loves recon sense, cloak, nuke, no game sense, low skill-related. Not for me.

Will reinstall when it becomes a "good game"

Whoever still here, enjoy!

[strong wave]

@twilit lily I have an entire friends group on Facebook with over 5k people and we run custom tournaments all the time. There is only 15 of us that play the finals and if we had a custom tournaments option we could host a tournament and that would open the game up to all those players, who then in turn would start playing the game and adding to the player count thus making it have a healthier count.

[regal estuary]

oh my goodness stop getting so triggered my guy...even if your making fun of a disability you have it gives you no right to make fun of other people... and i know hes a support.. i was just saying hes basically a dmg... i thought that was obvious.. litterly no reason to get so angry at me bruh

[woven hawk]

LIGHTS ARE DEAD in ranked.

Playing at range won't work with FCAR & recon even more abundant than ever before.

Playing up close is no longer viable with invis & stun getting nerfed, shotgun barely kills anymore.

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.
Its time to let go. 🙏

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• 🎨 Only art and sound team work hard.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

[shell jacinth]

All the recon crybabys needa get good not hard to sht on people with recon yall are just dog💩

[plucky torrent]

time to let go after like 3 weeks? what?

[fair osprey]

Bar the dumbass negativity,
I would ask if the console ports have a setting to change trigger desdzones. It's great that there's settings for thumb stick desdzones, but I would like them for triggers as well. Pls and thank you

[vast quail]

L + Remove Recon + FCAR Abuser

[quick coyote]

Recon sense is worse than israel

[queen rover]

Player base until recon medium meta is dealt with 📉📉📉

[honest parcel]

Has anyone else been like phasing through walls and stuff because I’ve been glitching through stuff when I try to climb it’s weird

[solid narwhal]

Add cross-platform with pc so console players can run kb&m

[daring fossil]

sometimes walls and bits of floor around destroyed areas will appear to be there, when they really aren't as well. That reminds me, I need to report a bug about some weird shit that happens on vegas since they updated the destruction

[cunning kernel]

[•CLOAKING DEVICE SHOULD BE A COOLDOWN BASED ABILITY NOT TOGGLE ]

[•DEFIB SHOULD ONLY DO THE ANIMATION WHEN IN RANGE FOR RESURRECTION.. IT PREVENTS INSTANT REVIVES]

[fossil citrus]

i have a problem where my mouse doesn't let me click on any options such as contestants, equipment, and play, until i move my cursor all the way to the right of the screen, not letting me hover
and my controller doesn't work at all with these options

[umbral rampart]

I find it funny, that there were all these people complaining about heavy, complaining about light, and they get what they asked for- now it's all "game dead", 'terrible change'.

This proves that no dev should listen to the players when it comes to balance changes. They're all a bunch a whiny people who don't know what they are talking about.