👂┇game-feedback

[crystal cloak]

damn i have lower specs running this shit on max settings with a good 60-70fps thats crazy and i never had issues

[oak marten]

i wanted to try this game out today but i keep getting an UE5 error MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK, any suggestions?

[iron lantern]

how do i fix this then like its honestly so bad

@quick coyote im so used to just playing 60 fps or under which was normal to me on my old pc but on here its constantly lassing frame skipping and just freezing for no reason

[frigid cradle]

Beta's were better, all the clases worked, now its heavy shotgun med spam

[quick coyote]

TRUE

[fallow glacier]

Try clearing your cache and reinstalling the game

[quick coyote]

Yea but people NEEED 240+ fps these days, or they whine like babies

[spiral nest]

thats the issue that my friend is having

[orchid rock]

wasn't mocking but google will help 🙂

[zinc sonnet]

Please pretty please add text chat I wanna talk to somebody, anybody. The dead silence is unbearable every game.

(If the worry is toxicity, they go into voice chat anyways to mouth off )

[crystal cloak]

idk tbh but ig make sure everything updated yo gpu, motherboard,bios, cpu etc. im running on ultimate performance too

[pastel marsh]

Dude if I spend 3 grand on a setup I expect it to perform. When it doesnt, and reaches a THIRD of what I am expecting that is annoying. You're acting like it's cool to just run at 60fps in 2023. That doesn't make you right. And it has been proven time in and time out that playing at a competitive level, frames matter. My old esports team had a guy who accidentally played overwatch all year on 60fps. Found out, switched to 240 and guess what? #3 widowmaker in the game. You can look up our team, we played against misfits and took 2nd in toronto. Guess what we all played at (because it made a difference?) Like it LITERALLY matters and you not even trying to do research on it before making your statements is ridiculous.

Then again, im feeding into it so what does that make me 🙃

[clear cobalt]

If this continues players will stop playing the game, one hacker is always there with aimbot sitting on crane with lewis beaming everyone on the map.

[iron lantern]

ive already did that and everything is good ive stress tested it completly and works wonderfully its just this game @crystal cloak

[eager spire]

Ive never had anyone use the in game chat tbh

[untold blaze]

If I wanted 60 FPS, I'd get a console. It would have saved me atleast 2k plus the cost of the mic, boom arm, pc chair, desk, and monitor.

[vale haven]

Need more loadout slots

[proper prairie]

60fps on PC in a competitive shooter is bad

[orchid rock]

a stress test to show your system is stable doesn't mean it's optimized or running correctly with your specs, it just means it's stable

if it's just this game it's likely this is the most demanding game you're playing, if not an incompatibility or bottleneck when it comes to what UE is demanding from your PC. Again, google is your best help when it comes to specific issues with game performance

[crystal cloak]

everyone needs that smooth gameplay

[untold blaze]

Yea because I spent money on a PC. Not a console. That would be like you buying a Switch expecting to get 60FPS and it ends up running like an old Atari. 😂

[crystal cloak]

fr

[proper zenith]

I mean even next gen consoles can run games like warzone at 120fps at 1080p but it's missing in this game

[hasty citrus]

CM momo calling us xenophobic, what great PR

[quick coyote]

Lol so defensive haha, I don't need to read about anything my friend. I'm well-versed thanks. You do you bro 👌

You might want to read up on what the human eye can actually see and process. Big tech is swimming in money due to people being oblivious to biology.

[plush plaza]

Nerf C4 + barrel ICBM

[glad pumice]

I dont even play heavy but its funny af pls keep that shit

[arctic pelican]

just gonna drop this in the hopes a dev sees it and it gets traction:

this game would benefit enormously from limited-time modes with set loadouts or loadout restrictions; picture all players are Light with cloak and melee only, or no gas no smoke no fire only explosives allowed, etc.

the game is great, but throwing in a more playful goofy mode occasionally that breaks up the standard format would be awesome to cycle between and keep players from burning out. just my opinion! ❤️

[quick coyote]

People typing books to defend themselves lmao, I'm out guys I got work.

[plush plaza]

Not fun since its the only thing that is viable in higher ranks 🫠 as a heavy main i can say hes busted AF right now

[pastel marsh]

The human eye can process 60 frames per second in real life scenarios. The human eye can also process SMOOTHNESS. I don't need to see every frame and determine when one ends, and the next starts. But the more frames in a monitor the more information being sent, which the average human having around 200ms response time (some of us better) means I can react quicker to the information on the screen, 60fps means I get 60 frames of information per second. 240 is (you guessed it) 240 frames worth of information. Are we seeing how maybe with a 200-250 milli second response time, more frames of information might mean a better result even if finite?

If we get into it real deep, every single movie you've watched up until about 5 years ago was 24fps. Smooth right? Until you watch a 60FPS movie (the newer ones are using this more and more). Now the 60fps ones are like butter woah! Why? Because more frames = smoother transition = less chop = better.

So in short, it doesnt matter what I can process frame by frame. It matters when my brain sees X information and then I respond and react to it. That, is why 240 matters. It is very possible frame 8 shows an enemy on 240fps but on 60 it might show on frame 40. So I have that many frames sooner information to work with. Might not save me, might get the win. who knows!

Please, I have worked in film, I have worked in games, I have competed and I have designed. I understand this, and I am telling you if you went from 60 to 240 you will notice a significantly smoother gameplay and therefor, probably better game results.

@crystal cloak theres a delay so I'm editing thise to respond haha. We got here because divine believes 240 is a sham and not needed, and I am just petty I suppose 😄

I'm going to bed lol.

[crystal cloak]

how did we get here ☠️

[silk whale]

Look like some kid name divine got shit on

[quick coyote]

240 is indeed utter bullshit, please do some basic research on biology

[scarlet shoal]

1. add option to enable auto-switch to primary weapon after using gadget (probably should not affect C4?)
2. add keybind option to switch to previous weapon/gadget

[crystal cloak]

cuh just hit you with that high intellectual shit really cant argue with this man

[rotund stag]

ADD CHAT FFS

[elder plaza]

Dude you know how cod has the thing where you can hear there voice after you kill them, add that please

[crystal cloak]

that would be fire but they need to fix things before they can add things

[subtle horizon]

I'd rather just a simple kill cam tbh

[elder plaza]

But dude I mean this game has a lot of fun annoying ways to die, it would be funny to hear a dude rage after a team of only big guys with sledgehammers kill him lollll

[plucky sonnet]

Have the server issues from the weekend been addressed? Also, does anyone know if they're working on a Mute Focus setting so i dont lose audio when I tab out?? Makes streaming a little funky

[fresh shell]

should not be able to spawn on the other side of the map with <1min on the cashout remaining

[half orchid]

Kill Cams would be AMAZING

[rotund stag]

WWHAT KIND OF FPS GAME DOESN'T HAVE CHAT FOR COMMS, HOW WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO FUCKING NOT SOLO LIKE ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SHOULD THINK OF THE START?? IS THAT NOT SO SIMPLE?? A CHAT SYSTEM??? FOR YOUR TEAM???

[subtle horizon]

Isn't there already voice chat?? Regardless calm down

[sick obsidian]

Many Hackers. Please Fix

[fresh shell]

There's a keybind to quick-toggle voice chat (push to talk by default, make sure you bind that too, or switch to voice activated), or you can enable it in the menu.

[past sinew]

Not being able to use your reserve in ranked feels pretty awful and makes for less counter play. What’s the point of a reserve if you can’t use it? Guessing? That’s bad

[untold blaze]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING? lol No one is going to type in it. lol I go into several FPS games with both VC and TC. They never use it other then to tell you "git gud kid" or call you a slur when you lose because none of their friends in the game have a lick of aim. lol

[half orchid]

I totally agree dude. Would love to use Reserve for counter play

[fresh shell]

Changing weapons at stationary points would be awesome.
Kinda sucks how you can't adjust your loadout for a new box/cashout point without dying (i.e. swap to/from sniper), which is kinda difficult on some maps and takes way too long with the individual respawn timer.

[indigo briar]

RED BARREL+C4 GOES BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[fresh shell]

When late-joining into a session we need to be able to see our teammates classes/loadouts. I've joined into an impossible to win teamup several times now (LLL vs MMM/MMH)

[snow plinth]

add a safe area storage configuration for the console

[prisma sigil]

Pls add “Auto run” / “Walk” button
That would be better in this game

[bronze sphinx]

make China server separately most of them hacked in game.

[vernal vigil]

Can we please separate Asia server into East/West/South Asia, and SEA? Every time I'm going into a match with players from China/Japan/Korea (dk if I've ever met any players from West/South Asia tho), I'll be having severe latency issues.

No other games that I play has latency/ping problems.

[dreamy salmon]

Please add a mode which che I enjoy if I decide to play solo…
Maybe like Fortnite in which you can select the number of your team members… this way is unplayable alone

[naive sandal]

How can I report cheaters?

[plucky summit]

^++

[thick tinsel]

Ask for the manager at your local Dairy Queen, they'll take care of it licketysplit

[orchid rock]

-reports

[spiral light]

Report suspicious behavior <:magnifyegg:1111293374897590292>

Have you seen suspicious behavior in-game?

Send a report through the Social menu (ESC -> Social or press P). Press the icon near the player's nickname to report them.

You can also send detailed reports to our support team: LINK

[cunning escarp]

hit the social button after you press start or esc

[naive sandal]

Hope that will do it. Chinese name, 44 kills in one match. made screenshot and recorded. Aimbot killing from far distance

[plucky summit]

1. Theres a big bug thats happenning
   the vault sinks into the ground and then it can not be taken. this means whole game wasted. Happens a lot on Las Vegas with sand storm

2. A LOT of Chinese hackers. They take snipers. climb towers. dont miss a SINGLE shot. Please separate servers for China.

3. PLEASE add in a "audio in background" option for when the game is tabbed out / in background. i still want the audio to know if i found the match / i have been revived

[orchid rock]

Known bug, happened in the beta as well, issue with clipping on some maps and will be fixed with time.

Agreed on separate servers but everyone has said this

+1, is a thing in a lot of games. Valorant even force tabs you in once match is found

[tepid sandal]

anyone have problems with voice chat
i cant hear anyone and they cant hear me

[plucky summit]

Yes, i LOVE the Valorant force tab. Unreal has a node for the force tab, "Set Focus to Game Viewport" i believe, so its very doable and not too hard.
But the background audio is also a big requirement often.

Specially for people like me who game during work haha

[lost helm]

I dont have a issue but my friends voice chat audio plays on the wrong Audio device on his computer.

[orchid rock]

have him disable his other audio device(s)

[hallow eagle]

When will anti cheating be added? I really like this game and I don't want it to be destroyed by hackers

[teal creek]

I'd like to see the crit heal mechanic from Team Fortress 2 to be introduced to the heal beam. In short, you get healed slower if you've been damaged recently and the heal rate would ramp up the longer you stay out of the fight. Also i think that the defibrillator should speed up the revive instead of it being instant, forcing the player to stand still.

[blazing pier]

after playing a few more days these are my primary wishes for the game, no particular order

Medium needs more weapon variety
Light needs faster health regen (maybe by 1 or 2 seconds) and cloaking needs to be more visible (within 5m, make the player’s name and outline show up?)
Heavy needs a health regen penalty (1 or 2 seconds longer) and overall weapon nerf
mantling needs to be worked on, I’m climbing onto the second floor of buildings too often while trying to jump into the first floor windows
desync is particularly bad post launch, moreso than the betas
Heavy’s mesh shield should be a little less tanky
gas effects should be less lengthy
spawns need to be worked on to encourage more fighting, I’m spawning across the map from obj a lot
add text chat or make voice chat default with the option to mute
fire hitboxes are a little weird, I’m sometimes catching on fire from invisible flames
overall Light weapon balancing
R357 gun charms flop into my iron sights a lot and it completely blocks my aiming
anti-cheat buff
fix ghost reloads
add deathmatch, team or FFA
add private games (at least allow parties to go into the range together)

[rich igloo]

Pls, in ranked when we got AFKs get kicked, don't make loose point, or eventually make loose less point
But damn, solo queues are pain

[sharp cipher]

We need team deathmatch and other modes, capture the points etc
We also need private games

[past sinew]

I believe the social menu needs some tweaking. As of right now, if you try to report a cheater in game being killed/revived kicks you out of the report tab. Also the game on console has issues with actually getting to the “submit report” button. It feels very unintuitive and clunky as of right now.

[clear cobalt]

Bruhhhhhh you can just go play other games then, this game has unique modes, do you want same sh*t in every game, But I agree about private games.

[slender thunder]

so me as a mute can you explain to me how should i talk ive been trying to do that for almost 25 years now, teach me how to talk please

[weary hill]

We need a solos mode. I hate playing with randoms. I swear I'm getting paired up with toddlers. Amazing game though.

[sharp cipher]

Imagine if there was something that you would throw and then after 2 seconds u teleport to it

[gray flare]

bro, y'know how this game is really unique and a much-needed breath of fresh air for the entire genre? yeah let's dedicate a large amount of resources to making it more like literally every other shooter game on the planet

[little terrace]

♥♥♥

[quick coyote]

Can a feature maybe be added where I can view contracts mid match? I would like to know if I completed one before finishing the match. No complaints on anything else. Very fun and not pay to win at all.

[zealous kraken]

They should improve the enemy audio system in the game. I literally can't know where they are

[fierce grove]

something that could be improved is the contestant screen, i can create 7 slots and i would like to move them/rename them for easier identification

[uneven mountain]

Give cloaking a cooldown

[zealous kraken]

Need to improve the audio direction in the game

[thorn thunder]

please improve the directional audio (turn it on)

[rancid rover]

When having multiple builds of characters we need to be able to name them.

[cosmic sable]

Why is it that the more I play this game the more broken it becomes? I'm getting severe lag, input delay, screen tearing, etc. etc.

[little terrace]

Is there a glitch in the game? Someone against me killed me from a distance of 400 meters with a gun. I hit her with a Kalashkov and he doesn't die?

[edgy gulch]

Embark I feel like I'm one of yours biggest fans for this game, but as of today the cheater situation really has become out of control. I ran into cheaters 10!!!! times in a row. Not sublte, the instakill across the map kind. One match even had 3 cheating teams. I have 200-300 hours of playtime across the betas and the full release, that's how much I love this game. I really really really don't want this game to die. It's the game I've wanted to exist for the past 10 years. But I'm really afraid you're gonna lose too many players if the cheaters aren't dealt with soon.

[zealous kraken]

Even connected, it needs to be improved.

[worldly nymph]

They dont give a fuck, they havent given a fuck since open beta. Its been a problem for 2 months and since its out now more people are realising it

[ocean widget]

No matter what you do, please add any type of cosmetics related to raccoons I beg you I will empty my whole wallet for it

[haughty mica]

😳

[neat lantern]

They wont care; they'll collect the cash they made from everyone who buys the battlepass/skins and then go out for some drinks.. "good anticheat is impossible"🤓 ...

[ionic berry]

Y'all need to chill for a second 💀

[daring linden]

chill ? xd dude cs have less cheater xd

[gilded breach]

I would absolutely love to see a little dragon pet, that breathes a little fire, every time I kill someone.

[indigo briar]

HOLY SHIT THE HIMARS (BARREL+C4) NEEDS TO GET NERFED TO SHIT THIS IS UNPLAYABLE WIPING TEAMS WITH 1 CLICK ALMOST GOT 2 TEAMS ONCE CAUSE THEY WERE POINT BLANK SHOOTING EACH OTHER

[coral hedge]

I wish I could refund my battlepass purchase

[thorn thunder]

i really only want this game to be better optimized, it's kind of silly how bad it plays

[quick coyote]

Yes

[haughty mica]

the most annoying thing for me is when i have not reloaded to the full magazine gun and i want pick up some object, the game firstly reloading my gun, and then i can pick up the item

[placid shard]

aint no way the heavy shotgun has more range than most ARs 😭 I was literally getting killed crossmap fighting another team cus a team of heavies on a dif cashout were spamming us from the rooftops

[dire kayak]

How to fix UE Discovery crash?

[white shadow]

Yeah that would be funny lol just hopefully not too obstructive for enemy players too.
What I hope they will do is something a game called S4 League did with pets.
The pets would react to your movement actions so like if you ran/walk it would run next to you, if you stand still it'd be on your shoulder, if you crouch it'd stand/rest on your head.
Just makes the pet a lot more interactive and nice to have (+ mega cute)
In this video you can see a lot of the different pets the game had and their uniqueness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkze8C8tvQ

[little terrace]

Ask a game modification company
I just want to play one-on-one

[neat lantern]

Yeah i added money and got one of the skins. if i could refund it i would have

[low mango]

ban all the chinese cheater mf

[slender thunder]

fix the anti cheat

[narrow parrot]

Unplayable, cheater in every single round, not only in ranked, also in normal modes now

[valid bridge]

i've encountered 3 cheaters in asia servers

[limpid remnant]

how bout we just ban china they have all the cheaters 🤷‍♂️

[coral hedge]

Wish I wasn't so impulsive and stuck to what I posted here. #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[little terrace]

Who played with me, my name in the game: SALEH4TAHAINA

[white shadow]

You realize the game has been out for a week and a half right? Games that are alive for 4 years and more are still infested with cheaters, hopefully in due time they will manage to pinpoint cheaters better, trust me that is their top priority, as with any other game dev who has cheaters in their games

[coral hedge]

"Top priority" when the same cheat providers who were offering cheats in open beta were able to also get their cheats running from open beta build within the same day of launch. LMAO. 😹😹😹😹

[wild sand]

Top priority, it’s been 4 days :/

[ionic berry]

The problem is that they really think harrasing the devs and the CM will make the cheaters banned faster 🤡

[coral hedge]

4 days? No. It was a major problem in the open beta too.

[summer plank]

I legit just took the L in a ranked game because my 2 mediums both were 0/8 with less than 1k damage almost halfway through the match… like WHAT. I just left it

[real fog]

I think there's a bug with the rocket launcher that causes the rocket to blow up in the face of the player shooting it. It's happened to me a few times where I'll go to shoot and it just poofs in my face, when nothing was infront of me.

[tawdry kraken]

why are all the guns so insanely accurate in this game? im dishing out and dealing plenty of damage at most ranges

[ionic berry]

I felt like it happened to me too, I shot through my shield but got blew up instantly

[little terrace]

Am I too angry to play? I want to buy hacker, where is the purchase site?

[quick coyote]

Sorry dude, you need to be Chinese to hack

[verbal orbit]

Did Embark already hint something about Custom Matchmaking / 3rd party tournaments?

[little terrace]

Who played with me, my name in the game: SALEH4TAHAINA

[ornate shoal]

well you prob can go some forums to ask them to party up. or they'll advertise via their ign

[summer plank]

Wrong chat my bad😭😭

[cunning ravine]

Fix the revolver!!! It's doodoo

[verbal orbit]

you can check ingame

[high creek]

🤯

[little terrace]

My name in the game SALEH4TAHAINA? I am 15% professional

[jagged moss]

please do something about the hackers

[quick coyote]

plz fix fps bro

[gilded inlet]

they wont cuz it xenophobic to do so XDDDDD

[worldly nymph]

dont forget racist apparently

[idle edge]

cheaters spend a lot of money on skins, they can't ban them lmao

[hybrid apex]

when we'll get coop practice, i want to train with my team

[narrow anvil]

Remove shotguns and this skilless stuff

[worthy haven]

where tf the dev...every freaking game theres a cheater

[hallow stag]

UI feedback:

• sometimes I get the opponent teams to have the same color (both red teams) and it's hard to know who is who - there should be a condition to not have the same colors (seems like now it's randomized)
• it would be cool if key events like "cashout" would be in color of the specific team... yesterday while playing tournament we got confused by which cashout was done... opponent vs. our team

[silent hare]

🛑 Remove the ability to connect a gamepad to a PC; in this way, players will bypass the “cross-play” system, thanks to which they will play against PC players with auto-aiming.🛑

[hallow stag]

Cashout glitch:

• happened to me once in 100 games - something happened to the cashout station and the progress was stucked at 100% for the "winning team" and we had to wait until the main match countdown when to 0 for the match to end

[daring linden]

i guess devs want to creat a hvh game, if its the case they did a great job 👍 . Every game 2/3 cheaters. start to be done with that game. Nothing done , cheaters even by skins xd

[orchid rock]

Hit head

[vestal coral]

you should find ways to avoid getting stuck under the rubble

[steel fossil]

asia server is unplayable because of cheaters

[daring linden]

Dw EU as well

[glass granite]

FIRST WIN OF THE DAY SHOULD HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR NUMBER OF GAMES PLAYED

[vestal coral]

The defibrillator should be improved. It happens too often that it doesn't revive your partner even if it's fully charged or you hit him directly.

[little terrace]

I want an explanation on YouTube? How to open the door without pressure? Or open the scene with the right mouse without pressing

[quick coyote]

JUST GET BETTER AT THE GAME

[glass granite]

everytime I've been close to winning the game has crashed 🙃

[little terrace]

I want to explain the editing settings. For example, when running, I want to enter an automatic door without pressing the letter E

[ember swan]

make the crossairs more customble. or let us use 3rd party crossairs or monitor crossairs or smh

[proven forum]

I just want to suggest a dot crosshair instead of having the bulky cross hair. Just allow us to get rid of the width completely

[long lagoon]

when custom matches?

[half storm]

can we get only -10 on rank points when 1 of our teammates disconnect, I got -80 bruh but when we lost the next game as a complete team we lost -30.

[silent hare]

🛑 It is necessary to introduce an in-game system into rating games so that it is impossible to take 3 identical classes. Because each class has a certain superiority over another class, this way you can balance the teams.🛑

[median mist]

Any mods free?

[young yarrow]

too many hacker, i cant put my screenshoot right here 😭 , pls fix it, i cant enjoy the gameeeee😭

[night kettle]

https://imgur.com/a/SJTj9u9 hackers, fix this shit

[solid cliff]

So far only played against 1

[pure horizon]

Can we just deploy a team of embarl vod viewers.there job will be to watch vids of repeatedly reported players & manually hardware ban them.

[tropic egret]

I don't get the point of cheating is this game lol, you want that diamond pistol so badly???

[craggy karma]

everything is good just you can improve FPS and Performance for old machins

[olive cairn]

Imo mines and turret do too much damage especially compared to the other gadgets, i think the mines should do at least bellow 130 damage and the turrets should do less damage especially since the rate of fire and health is so high, they kind of act like a 4th teamate, great game though

[worn ridge]

That is a very great point I have five frames not that I can see it because there is no way to see your frames in game or cap your fps!! btw love this game

[balmy hare]

Please do more of the unique weapon skins with custom animations, theyre really cool and whoevers working on them on the animation team needs a raise

[terse quartz]

Fix rpgs

[scenic epoch]

the team colors should be customizable, at least for me its hard to see the difference in team color when looking at the outline around players (theres like 3 pink teams??)
a problem with that however would be that you cant easily call out a color if people have different colors, so maybe just make them more different?
i dont understand why there has to be those weird colors that are almost the same, when theres clearly more colors to choose from? there should be a more limited color palette at least, not 3 teams with different pinks

[reef oak]

buff right click on sword, prepared time is too slow. Also make role queue for teams to be more balanced, I dont want to be with all just lights, but with a M and H too

[valid hemlock]

is all my account items from the beta all gone? and if not how do i get that back

[reef oak]

There's a problem with custimization for weapons, at least for light class. When I try to put a new skin on my sword, change the sticker, add a badge, etc; it doesn't save into the game once I start playing, it just goes back to the default sword.

[sudden pike]

If three players in the team play the "fat man", and then with a hammer, you have no chance at all. One hammer blow kills an average player and it takes at least 1.5 magazines to kill the "fat one"!

[quick coyote]

This game is dying 🚨
Pls do something right dev
If you gonna go vacation with out any solving, this game will die 100%.

[robust garnet]

Arent they patching like all the time? So major things too.

[quick coyote]

130k players right now, i guess not lol

[umbral halo]

Weapons: Revolver Iron Sites should match the color scheme for each tier instead of being yellow for all variants

[patent blade]

What the heck is going on now? Almost everyone was hacking in my last game, my teammates had aimbots my enemies had aimbots and were wall banging everywhere. It was a quick play match not to mention

[pale citrus]

Hi there. I spotted a bug. If you play as heavy and use shield? after that your fov will mess up and you cant see weapons and etc. Its not critical but tthis is annoying. Pls fix

[solar quiver]

Make the respawn button (SPACEBAR) insteaf of having it to press once to respawn, to hold it for 2-3s to respawn. At least for ranked, you can press space by mistake and that in ranked, can mess up the game.

[undone kestrel]

Nerf mines or game will die

[robust garnet]

just shoot them bro, they are super easy to see

[naive slate]

Would love for this game to have kill cams. So many decent kills go un noticed as well as when you die i at least would like to see how as the game is so fast paced a pov from the guy who killed you would be good. Would also help in reporting for cheaters.

[plush plaza]

fuck no thats awful. Sometimes u need to panic coin if ur teammate can't get a res to avoid wipe. git gud and don't press space 🙂

[lament karma]

how much steal time?

[jagged moss]

huh??

[idle edge]

yeah mines are the problem not cheaters lmao

[humble stream]

it's the mines.... the mines are cheating!

[balmy mesa]

add solo gameplay not everyone have 2 friends to play perfect comp 15h per day

[hot flower]

give me clothes that aren’t yellow and black 😑

[quick coyote]

im almost never dying to mines, no idea what you guys are talking about
they can be easily avoidable
game does need to reduce toxic gas duration

[livid kiln]

just throw fire on gas

[stoic swan]

do you guys still have the missing angelscript callstack crash ?

[steel fossil]

is it safe to use vpn thinking of playing in NA server cuz asia is unplayable rn because of cheaters

[scenic epoch]

many people ask the devs to make drastic changes to things like gas and mines, however i think we need to wait for a proper meta to form, people need to start using glitch grenades and fire
there already are counters build into those things

[quick coyote]

yeah? but see, i need the granade slot for actually meaningful equipment, i shouldn't be carrying counters just for the sake of it
its a unfortunate reality since playing solo with randoms often leads to people running around alone and getting kiled thinking this is COD

[spiral pike]

Go for it embark doesn’t care

[livid kiln]

isnt it meaningful to stop gas? and tbh I play solo too and most of the time we stick together

[clever raft]

I think that the game, being competitive, is intended to be a light game, but I have a GTX 1050ti and the game is running very poorly with literally everything at minimum and in ultra performance mode, with an average of only 60 fps, I have Friends with a GTX 1650 running really badly too, so I wanted to know if you have plans to improve the game's optimization.

[round goblet]

256+ games here now damn, I actually counted my blatant cheaters encounters and some caught using softhacks in asia. 97 of them holy sht. Im even surprised, wow.

[heavy spindle]

bro the game is cpu bound. and 1050 ti is so freaking old man, 60 fps is decent for this

[true isle]

will we get some options for smaller crosshairs/static crosshairs? I don't want to use crosshairX because it is maybe detected by EAC but the in game one is hideous

[quick coyote]

my notebook has a i3 10100u cpu with a gtx 1650 ddr6 gpu
im running the game fine on low settings, never below 60 fps using dsr 2x

trying resetting your graphical settings to default, might help with weird config files shenanigans

[clever raft]

Games like Valorant or even CS 2 run at more than 160 fps in this same configuration

[heavy spindle]

this game is UE5, with real time destruction. and forced RTX. valorant and cs2 are 2d potatoes game made in paint. game for sure need optimisation but you cant compare it to those games lmao

[buoyant wyvern]

If I am playing practice I am getting around 120-160 core i7 gen 4 GTX 1650

[mint jungle]

The game is not bad. But here you can get a ban even if you are low-skilled and have AFK in the menu.

[stoic kernel]

i have a 1050ti too and it runs 75ish fps for me on the same settings, your cpu might be weaker than mine though

[clever raft]

no joke, but warzone 1 ran on this pc at 90 fps 80 fps, a little frustrating considering that I was really having fun in the finals

[quick coyote]

I'm only a step up with a 1060 with low/medium settings, and haven't had any performance issues yet
the game might not like the rest of your rigs parts

[heavy spindle]

best you can do is to put same refresh rate so the game go smooth at least. and cracked visual quality as much as you can while being 60 constant

[stoic kernel]

the 1050ti overclocks greatly so consider doing that, i did. quite a big difference in smoothness between 60 and 75
i can get 75ish which is my monitors refresh rate with 16gb 3200hz ram, i5 11400f

[zinc sentinel]

please fix the issue with respawning, Not being able to shoot/not seeing urself and spectating even though ur alive

[slate schooner]

Please give lights a med pack or something for healing in their arsenal simply because you cannot always count on a medium to heal

[lavish shard]

Crash on serie s 😓😓

[spare mango]

Pre launch I was getting about 120 fps on high with my system (3060; i7K 11th; 16gb ram), now on launch if I get 60 I'm being lucky, I've seen the issue is not about ram, but rather low cpu and gpu usage.
Please take a look into notebook gamers too ❤️

[spring sparrow]

why are there so many people with chinese characters in their names, is the asia region playing on eu servers?

[empty dagger]

More customizable equipment? Like faces in general

[white shadow]

Apparently some people are also "hiding" behind chinese names lol idk why

[stoic swan]

because it's not fun to play against cheaters when you're a cheater, it's more fun to play against normal player who absolutely can't do anything against you

[dusky steeple]

special mode rotation / recurring event

[true nexus]

I’ve had this error code tfla0002 for 2 days I can’t play anyone know?

[open fulcrum]

1st. nerf heavy
2nd. my items from open beta aint with me
3rd. i bought a medium gun but i cant use it

[somber wedge]

really liked the beta and the launch but I hope to see the AI announcers and contestant voices (outside of grunts) being voiced by talents at one point - I thought they were for the beta mainly so embark could put out content and proof of concept but now the release is here and they are still artificial.

[stoic kernel]

quit all background programs and try again
causes could be anything like
mouse software, screenshot software, other anti cheats, etc
i still get it but i restart the game a couple times and it works eventually
could also reinstall anticheat

[wild sand]

they are AI?

[true nexus]

I’m on Xbox and I’ve reinstalled it like 10 times and restarted my router same error tho

[dull vine]

Ц

[fierce grove]

I think ranked should allow using tokens to switch equipment during a match, its a bit annoying seeing what you are up against after you have picked your stuff

[calm musk]

What's the point of the revolver dealing 148 damage headshot close range? Either make it 150 damage headshot, or lower headshot damage and give it more body shot damage, so i dont get a headshot on a light that jumps away and magdumps me, or get 3 bodyshots on a medium that leaves him 1hp just for him to one shot body shot me with a shotgun or grenade launcher, a slow firing weapon that constantly leaves ennemies to 1hp are bound to be frustrating and never used. I think 150 damage headshot is very reasonable considering the skill required to consistently get headshots with a revolver, specially against light ennemies who go melee + dash constantly

[stoic kernel]

ah if xbox not sure what you can do
Google if you haven't already but it's probably the games fault not your systems
i get the same code on pc and i have to restart game a couple times for it to eventually work

[reef oak]

PLEASE ADD A KILL CAM ONCE YOU DIE, im really trying to see how I die because ill never know how. And if I do then I can actually learn and get good

[graceful garden]

The game's point is the competitive and the CHEATERS ARE RUINNING IT the game won't survive too much time going this way

[dull hill]

Guys the game keeps crashing for me at startup . After the splash screen of anti cheat the game crashes and I get either unreal crash report or just a crash handler report

[calm musk]

The game isnt competitive, its incredibly casual in its weapon balance, low skill weapons are high reward, and high skill weapons are underpowered, looks like the objective is to get the casual crowd interested first, good in the short term but stinks of "game that will die in 3 months because the meta is stale and boring"

[cerulean fulcrum]

the cheaters are giving it a whole new competetive aspect, can you beat the aimbot B) ?

[scenic chasm]

WE NEED MORE NAMATAMA

[south widget]

I think a text chat could be a good addition.

[tawdry kraken]

the fuck do dome shields even block?

[abstract marlin]

Day 10 of begging for knife to have charge added back

[thorn venture]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

Discovery
Discovery

literally cant play

[scenic epoch]

i think they are doing that for better dynamic announcers in the future? dont think its a cost thing, they did pay voice actors for this.
im hoping for announcers to say custom team and player names in the future for example

but maybe its just so if something happens to the voice actor they can still create new content with the same voices

[zenith linden]

Fr last night 3 tourneys in a row I ran into cheaters

[quick coyote]

dam im running 30 fps

[last summit]

You have said about cheaters but why are the ranked servers still up? There are people livestreaming cheating.....Just turn off ranked.

[primal mirage]

fix equipment wheel.

[quick coyote]

im finna buy a new cpu to play this game lowkey

[somber wedge]

they claimed in a statement that they are doing it so they can get content out faster and smooth out later. the voices are apparently both voice actors and in house employees used as models (as well as breathing and grunting being non AI). They also said as much in a MTM podcast episode

the main issue is the sorroundings here - in september voice actors joined the SAG-AFTRA strike which is happening because they ask for better regulations for AI among other things. for a game to come out with AI TTS voice acting still in place (i.e. this means it wasnt just a beta thing) is a bit of a setback to an otherwise great launch for me.

they also said in a statement that this is not supposed to be the finished state - but with a grand full launch almost behind us I wonder when they plan to replace the TTS voice acting. Its not like its super expensive or takes an insane amount of time - you can get pro VO for less than a grand total and bang out a couple sessions over a workweek and you got all the audio you need (especially since its mainly call outs in this game)

the game is overall great and I feel like giving this feedback is the most effective way of the things I can do and may actually get heard.

[pseudo latch]

Give heavy an anti-material rifle ability/weapon. Single shot, 200 damage, takes forever to reload so its actual DPS sucks as a gun if you make it a gun, but its got a wallbang Acog and can penetrate walls, so you can line up shots through walls and just slam a dude for 200 damage.

[white totem]

nerf heavy shotgun, nerf C4 barrels, buff combat knife

[scenic epoch]

if they stated otherwise then probably youre right and they should get real voice actors to do the casting in game
i was just assuming / hoping they will put effort in making a more dynamic system that can react to things happening in the game
for example:

• team names can be customized
• player names are being mentioned live by the casters
• just in general more interactive casters

[wet hatch]

OK so I have an idea againt's cheater :

Why we don't make a system like the overwatch (not the game) system, when a player is suspected to be a cheater, his game play is send for investigation and player can spectate the game play and if they find that is probably a cheater he can confirm (or not if he didn't do anything bad and then remove the false or abusive report) the cheat, and then let the moderator or the bot sees the gameplay and ban the person

And give reward if you manage to get good judgment multiple times

[terse tapir]

How about adding the feature to CHOOSE what Roles you want your mates to be? Id rather wait 5 Mins in queue to find 2 med for example, than play with 2 braindead light class players, who are trash and cant play this game the right way. I dont get the matching. Im just trying to climb and have fun in rankeds but I get like ONE good team in about 6 matches. Other than that its exhausting and feels like my Team plays with a steering wheel and doesnt even use their brain on ANY decision they make.

[midnight girder]

How long do we have to wait for the first ban wave? There is a cheater in almost every ranked game I play

[round goblet]

Play the 2nd mode, less cheaters in general, tested. In cashout both normal, tournament (40% of my games are filled with Chinese usernames with blatant cheats). Man I don't advocate region-lock but... They need to taste their medicine sometimes. No point in playing rank since the reward is a USP (Crystal), we got the free diamond skin which is already fire.

[barren gyro]

h

[maiden jackal]

Or just have an anti-cheat lol

[violet scaffold]

Remove arena carriable contracts, they are near impossible and significantly harder to complete compared to all the rest of the contract types. the only way a 'hit' is registered is via a direct hit by any throwable object which is stupid. the only way you can complete these contracts is by hoping for an enemy to be stealing a cashout and not shoot back at you while you go up to them and throw a chair at them.

[indigo python]

Does anyone know if china is region locked or not in this game?

Played for a couple hours and I have already encountered 3 cheaters with Chinese usernames in asia servers.

[wet hatch]

Well I can understand, I haven't really used that system since it was of counter strike if I'm right and I never played so I don't know the limits of that

[hearty jay]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ConsiderateBreakableSrirachaPoooound-Iodr2qH1HqcOjyAj feedback enough

[broken bison]

ranked pretty much unplayable 2-3 hackers per match most asian some not

[north fox]

If role lock is not a option, devs should really look into shared equipment pools.

[tawdry kraken]

role locks would solve so many problems

[rustic grail]

THE FINALS IS ALREADY DEAD BECAUSE ITS GIVING NO CONCERN TO THE CHEATING PROBLEM. IN 10 MATCHES, THERE ARE ALMOST 8 MATCHES WITH CHEATERS RUINING MY WHOLE DAY. IT IS DRIVING ME MAD. WHAT IS CONFUSING IS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER U ARE REALLY PREPARING FOR A BAN WAVE SECRETLY OR U JUST CANT FIGURE OUT ANY SOLUTIONS.

[wicked axle]

You guys are all talking about hackers. I have played around 120 matches already and have encountered none. You guys are just unlucky

[broken bison]

haven't found much in non ranked, but if you go ranked there a bunch

[normal steeple]

i dont see the problem with all the people screaming here. Many jobs will be replaced by AI, no regulation will be able to stop it .. voice acting in games might just be one of the first dominos to fall

[quick coyote]

current dialogue/narration feels rather boring, i had no idea they were using AI
makes a lot of sense

[tawdry kraken]

ak nerf 🫶

[quick coyote]

Some feedback here; we would appreciate updates on what the team is working on and what is next. It doesn't have to be specific, but having a general roadmap would help us and calm the waters a little bit, I think. It's better than waiting in silence until the team randomly decides to communicate with the community IMHO.

Edit: even if it's a general short/mid-term overview of what will be added or fixed in the next update/s, among some other stuff.

[normal steeple]

Ai doesnt actually write the text lines. So what you called boring is actually what was handmade. Only the text to speech part uses AI for the voice that you then actually hear.

[ornate adder]

You really need to take care of this cheater problem you have, this is insane. Cheaters are raging in almost every game. This game will die out for sure if this is not taken care off.

[prisma tartan]

am i the only one got stuck on the ranked tournament final round ?

[crystal imp]

https://mp1st.com/news/embark-explains-why-theres-no-roadmap-for-the-finals

It seems that there is no intention for a roadmap, and they just flat out don't want to

[somber wedge]

if you dont see the problem then frankly you havent taken the time to inform yourself properly - unfettered usage of AI only makes the rich richer and everyone else more miserable. it has potential for good and hopefully we will end up with solutions that work on these benefits, but as of right now its an evolution of tech that is already being exploited for the bottom line.

Many great characters in gaming and video are recognizeable or cherished because of their voice. You cant ever fully replace it, especially not with the way AI models actually learn. if we just stopped using voice actors in favor of AI models over night we would never hear a new voice in any medium.

no sane person calls for an outright ban to AI - but many many people call for ethical usage of the medium. And that starts and ends with every area it influences.

it doesnt take much to actually cast voice talent - I am hoping they will.

[gritty crystal]

GG for this games future yall, give up now

[manic aspen]

OPTIMIZE THE FUCKING GAME, ty <3

[normal steeple]

It does take so.ething to cast real talent - money.

So aslong as AI voice i just good enough (which it is in this game), and costs less, yes of course a profit oriented company is gonna use AI.

Technology changes, ways change, society will change too. Problems will arise and some will be solved.

Its the natural flow of the world - in my opinion we can scream as much as we want its not gonna stop something thats just more cost efficient

[wet hatch]

OK I GOT A NEW IDEA!

New grenade for the medium, who is actually healing everyone in the Grenade radius (Allied and enemies) for like I don't know how many hp you are the pros I just drop the idea

[quick coyote]

Well, I must say that the reasons sound like generic excuses to me because either they don't know where they are going (which is dangerous in a company) or they know and they don't want to share it (which is suspicious). In any case, that blog talks about a long-term roadmap, I'm talking about a short or perhaps medium-term one as an overview of the general things that will be added or fixed in the updates, among other stuff.

[crystal imp]

I do agree though, this game needs way more transparency on a lot of different aspects.

Ingame stats for guns are awful, meaningless bars that in some cases are incorrect.

Little to no response on most things people have been asking about and are concerned about.

We can't even get a feedback channel where feedback can be sorted and realistically seen, instead we all just yell at the community wall here, lol.

[formal bramble]

DEVS learn something about cheats. Easy Anti cheat has been proven over time to do nothing. If a player starts heashotiing ppl with a shotgun accros the map without the anti cheat detecting it, well maybe change.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzIq04vd0M

[rustic grail]

RIP

[woeful cradle]

i am sorry but i really like the idea of this game. but why is it even out if it's unplayable for majority of people ? rubber banding is insane, it's unbalanced and crawling with cheaters

[stone bone]

Is the game literally unplayable for anyone else? I keep on getting error code tfge0000 that prevents matchmaking

[manic aspen]

OPTIMIZE THE GAME, BETA HAD MORE FPS

[somber wedge]

attitudes like that have cost us many great things - trying to change things for the better is something everyone should be able to subscribe to. and every bit can help. A natural flow of the world how you see it is far from the whole picture - its mere headlines. Things and people dont simply vanish if we stop caring or aim to replace them . it is impossible to increase profits forever, and the little difference in time and money wont break embarks bank I am sure.

Again, I hope they do the right thing and cast talents sooner than later

[hybrid rain]

dont make soloq alone in matches?????

[spice mauve]

Playing against 3 stack hackers in ranked, this "protection" is a joke

[stuck fox]

why am i getting teammates in bronze when im in gold???????????

[undone kestrel]

Nerf mines

[normal steeple]

But youre proposing something that would for humans. And lately as i have seen it capitalism does actually not care about humans at all.

So just from a realistic perspective i dont think big hyper capitalistic countries like the USA will put forward meaningful regulation.

That will put pressure on all other countries in the world, its like an arms race and if you dont partake in it youre left behind unable to compete in the world for ressources - in turn making your local humans even worse off.

Personally im rooting for some good regulation coming in from the EU but i dont think it will be substantial enough to have a positive impact

Also how did we get here in launch feedback 😂

[bitter elm]

How is region locking China xenophobic when vast majority of games dedicate servers based on region for ping reasons alone? The lack of region locking is evidence of an unoptimized game, the fact the people run into cheaters because of it is just more reason to do so, yet it seems like the suggestion is making them obstinate.

This is an extremely bad sign for development of the game. If they can't make practical decisions for the good of the game out of a misplaced fear of "xenophobia", then it's truly no wonder things aren't optimized. Their priorities are out of place, and it's evident in the problem they're ignoring.

It's probably the smallest of the obviously fixable problems, yet it's the only one they responded to, and they just said "no"

[oak pike]

It's not. The chinese have a disproportionate amount of cheaters. It's just a copout to call everyone who points that out racist.

[crystal imp]

But it's not imbalanced?

Heavy shotgun is fine, force a different engagement range. I'm okay with it being nerfed, but I don't think it's necessary.

Invis is fine, the shimmer is relatively easy to notice and it has a very loud and distinct sound. Sonar grenades can help prevent/detect people trying to flank you with it.

Sniper is fine, it does the exact right amount of damage on headshot. Enough to leave a medium on life support, and enough to kill a light, while not being enough to headshot bodyshot a heavy.

On that topic: Light is fine. You're not supposed to be able to just get into 1v1s and win every one of them regardless of your opponent's class and loadout. Sawn-off is bit of a betrayal to this (I'd just consider it an option for a different playstyle), but I think every other weapon for light supports this.

C4, RPG, Mines, and Gas are all fine. The only thing I think maybe should be done is making canisters easier to destroy. It takes a surprising number of shots to destroy them. I always think "I'll quickly shoot this barrel" and it's never quick. I also agree with at least gas mines not triggering when destroyed.

Nothing else balance-wise that people have mentioned is really worth addressing imo, but I think medium needs access to glitch grenades in addition to light, and to move glitch mines to heavy. Glitch grenades feel like a support tool medium should have, and glitch mines are inconsistent, but also feels like heavy should have a glitch option (If but only useful to attach to something and throw it). Alternatively, make medium's glitch mines a glitch cloud like a gas cloud.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[primal mirage]

please fix the Gadget Wheel not working on KbM and please add a ranked Bank It.

[broken bison]

They are afraid to be "canceled" probably. Even tho 80% of hackers are from China. Its in their culture to do it even.

[somber wedge]

Hey I mean we did it before. Think about how far workplace safety has come from between the 60s and now. its not far removed to protect job statuses or set a quota for human involvement in projects that require writing, voice or acting.

handshake on the EU doing a roundhouse "fuck you" and putting up a good first measure.

also, gotta say, videogame companies arent that protected by nepo families that we might actually stand a chance here.

and for the final, I repeat, again, that I hope embark will do the right thing and cast real voice talents.

[lucid spindle]

almost entirely based, but heavy shotgun and light shotgun both need slight nerfs. light shotgun should do slightly less damage so it goes from 2 tapping meds to leaving them at like 1hp, and heavy shotgun needs a bit more spread. making heavys just a 15m nono zone is insane

[gritty crystal]

i’m really scratching my head at the takes i’ve read from community managers. do they want to hold some imaginary moral high ground? stubbornness? are they purely just uneducated on the matter and jumping to conclusions? i don’t know.

the bottom line is, this game isn’t going down without a fight. but if anything would kill the finals, it would be the devs refusal to do you-know-what to you-know-which country

[iron fable]

guys a question, did anyone else has this TFLA0004 ban problem?

[oak pike]

"heavy shotgun is fine"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm not reading the rest of this
(Oops wrong post sry)

[crystal imp]

Heavy shotgun I think has more falloff than people give credit. If you go into the practice range, at about 13~15m, it takes all four shots to kill the light dummy (Three if you're lucky), with ADS and carefully controlling them. That said, it's not a hill I'm interested in dying on. If people want it nerfed, I don't think nerfing the heavy shotgun would harm the game.

Light shotgun is weird, I don't know how to feel about it so I don't feel like I can say what should be done with it. As far as game health goes, nerfing light shotgun is a bit weirder, as I do think it's an interesting playstyle for light. But maybe dagger already fits that, so this is just stepping on the dagger's toes?

[past pulsar]

Is there any way to get my 2k Ranked Points back that i lost because of Game Crashes? I feel kinda mad about it cuz im only playing with friends there is no reason to give such high penaltys if the game is not workig

[normal steeple]

light shotgun isnt that good either as soon as you have a coordinated team no light is gonna come near enough to one / twoshot you

it is overpowerd against unskilled teams tho

[lavish shard]

Crash crash crash crashhhhhh

[gritty crystal]

rule 1 of keeping your sanity:
never argue about balance in the finals discord, nobody has anything smart to say about it. people unironically calling flamethrower OP, and heavy shotgun balanced are your red flags to stop trying

[oak pike]

Horrible metric to use for what you consider balanced. You need to get it together.
@gritty crystal I've started just laughing at people instead. Most people here are either delusional, misinformed, or trolling.

[crystal imp]

Ah, good counterpoint. You've bested me in this game of wits.

[visual bronze]

same only i have played 240

[rich lake]

I am getting aimbotters in every game of ranked? Is that happening to anyone else?

[quick coyote]

Man its. Not easy to climb up jn ranked, with solo queue its hardcore difficult, make ranked that easy for solo queue cmon embark

[astral jewel]

Oh you both have definitely encountered hackers by now you just don't realize it.

[unborn kraken]

Optimize the game for us amd users please devs

[hasty terrace]

Any thoughts on implementing a DPM/average dmg per round statistic? It's a lot more meaningful than KD alone

[wide grail]

LES GOOOOOOO UPDATE TO ANTI CHEAT GOOD JOB EMBARK

[soft ibex]

I would love to see damage stats on the scoreboard

[bitter elm]

This is arguably the most commonly brought up complaint here. The community managers out right refused to take appropriate steps to stop it. Unfortunately, I do not expect this to change.

[crystal imp]

Yooo, hold on. Since when did mines and c4 affect the red cannister trajectory?

Mines weigh it down and it travels extremely slowly, and C4 makes it go off course significantly earlier.

I genuinely thought they didn't affect it at all and that's why people were bitching so much.

[naive scroll]

Text chat would be a nice addition. Sometimes I play with 1 random, and to be able to give them basic instructions, without both of us having to have vc on, would be nice

[quick coyote]

SCAR L is unplayable trash, have less damage, accuracy, magazine and ROF than AK, wee need additional 6 bullets magazine so it will be at least usable

[oak pike]

This is probably a worse take than the sa1216 being balanced. The scar is less consistent than the akm but still very good.

[light barn]

Scar is more damage thank AK

[rich lake]

That is too bad, everyone I keep talking too is saying it's going to kill the game which has caused at least 5 of us to stop playing for now as of this morning. Every team we go against has one aimbotter at least. Ruins the fun.

[woeful ore]

when i am sitting in the loading screen i cant here the game when it starts and hear the gun fights and stuff until it kicks me

it all started today when i clicked on my contestants and was editing them and i decided to delete all the contestants but the light class because thats all i play with so i could only get the light class when i was in a game. and when i deleted the heavy class then i deleted the medium class and then i went back to the main menu and my contestant was invisible and them i could not get into a game and it would stop and stay at the loading screen and get error codes like this tfge0002, tfge0003, tfge0004

[crystal imp]

bUt I pLaYeD dUrInG tHe BeTa

[quick coyote]

its only has half of ROF of ak and half of its magazine, its simple mathematic, 30 damage in 6 bullets per second on AK more damage than 35 damage with 3.5 bullets per second on scar, ngl its one of worse weapons ingame, even sight soes not work and just squashed and shows wrong direction, worse only people who bad at maths and trying to argue with me after skippin school

[quick coyote]

I partially disagree. I think that although it would be nice to have the chat option, the important thing is to improve the current ping system. An example of this is the cooperative shooter Deep Rock Galactic where people use the ping system to communicate 99% of the time since most of the time you are busy to write and even when you are not the system works so well for communicating the gameplay needs that it comes as natural to use it. I think THE FINALS should do a rework on that system to be more useful.

[naive scroll]

I could do with a better ping system too. And yeah, wouldn't want slow typing teammates to get killed while typing :)

[oak pike]

The scar has 10 more dps than the akm. It's the 80% less rounds per magazine that makes it overall worse than the akm.

[violet scaffold]

i feel like you're coping, if this AI vo is eventually put to good use in this game, we could get realtime generative commentators that have 100% different voice lines each game which is insane and never done before and increase immersion

[light barn]

I stated damage, it hits harder and takes less bullets just land shots and back off?

[woven wraith]

TFMR0100 error since the latest patch - how to get it fixed?

[manic aspen]

optimize the game pls

[sterile rivet]

Sounds like an issue with EAC, thats what I'm running into right now.

[covert grotto]

Is it only me who's crashing every other game i play. I've had this problem since i downloaded the game, and my friends had it too. Just wondering if anyone knows why this is happening:)

[crystal imp]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11wA3KDdLcd_YY4yCKsT1E7HqxNdBF2XaMWwYay9JExM/edit#gid=0

Here's a sheet of data for all weapons compiled by a couple people.

[stray tangle]

There's a heavy delay issue

[somber wedge]

well I think youre coping (take that). First of all, the future will likely be that we will have both and second of all out of the gate AI TTS is ass. I liked the idea someone else had in a comment in response to me saying it would be cool if you could pick your name and the commentators called it out. Which, well, yeah is a cool idea but barely doable even WITH the capabilities that AI TTS brings. the blacklist for words, combinations and signs would have to be longer and more extensive than any password requirement you have ever seen.

not to mention realtime generation and generative AI may be working but it is still far from ad-hoc good and usable. ad-hoc it is at best a proof of concept that you can refine. the ones we know that work well usually learn from thousands of hours of that one voice they try to generate and even then struggle with certain inflections and pronounciations.

[naive sandal]

I just realized the Tournament mode gets LESS AND LESS FUN the longer I play it. Why? Because of full stack squads just playing lots of explosions and H and M. Impossible to fight that. They push through everything,killing everything. The game is unbalanced af.

If I play solo, I should NEVER be placed in a match against full stacks. Never.

[severe musk]

Will finals support linux?

[sterile rivet]

This ☝️

[scenic grove]

yeah, they must nerf gas mines and explosive ones, is really unplayable and unskilled

[shadow dragon]

hopefully u find a consistent squad one day

[slate mauve]

ok then nerf glitch nades, buff glitch mines, nerf dome, nerf mesh shield...

see gas: bring fire barrel. they are literally everywhere.

[misty owl]

Please, BUFF THE DAGGER
Remove the auto aim, because it's ruining almost all the backstabs.
And make a backstab attack faster.

It's unreal to use Dagger against any good player rn.

[bitter elm]

Given how easy it would be to enable the EAC api through proton, I am guessing that they have some less-than-practical reasons for having not done so already.

They've already demonstrated obstinance when it comes to other easy changes that could greatly benefit the game, so I'm guessing they're just going to be too stubborn to add this. I've only ever seen the community managers respond once, and all they did was say "no" without good reason. Don't expect support from this team.

[hallow eagle]

Brothers, is anti-cheating about to restart?

[atomic radish]

Dunno if it’s just me but 70% of my matches end by disconnecting from the servers, had a flawless experience in OB but with the full release it’s struggling to keep a stable connection. Server fixes is super generic feedback but still

[tight dome]

nerf heavy

[naive sandal]

It started with them claiming that they made anti cheat more strong

[gray bough]

A quick play game mode without sbmm please

[quick coyote]

Is it intended or bugged that when you put down a APS turret on top of mines/c4 it does not deactivate them?

[plucky musk]

fr, I bought the dagger and within one game I was like "should've bought the sword"

[little bloom]

please add decimal input for sensitivity and FoV, the sliders are extremely inaccurate, especially at higher dpi

[slate mauve]

aps is anti projectile. not sure why we should expect it to deactivate anything already placed

[scenic grove]

for me they can nerf everything, in my opinion the only thing that should deal damage are the weapons. I think it would become a more skilled and competitive game.

[quick coyote]

what is the problem? get a light in the party and he will simply turn off all the mines, turrets and garвets including heal and shields, why people so lowskill and silly

[gray bough]

Sounds like someone’s brain is so small the only thing they can handle are weapons
That really is a skill issue

[slate mauve]

i think if you mindlessly run into objectives, repeatedly... you'll need more than weapon skill .-.

[plush grotto]

Medium needs a dmr pls

[queen cloud]

How is heavy not nerfed yet? It's been broken since beta...

[scenic grove]

Actually i am GM on overwatch and champion on rainbow, i wouldnt say that. Btw i am Just saying that me as heavy i shouldnt oneshot a light (i play heavy). I Just hate that when i have to deposit there are 5 mines and a team camping on that, i Just want a more skilled game that's all.

[onyx timber]

bro just got shot dead

[round goblet]

Man im a light main for 200+ matches, decided to lewis gun heavy. Drop a 23 bomb in my 4th try, true lol moment.

[cobalt blaze]

Can you guys fix the probelm that if your game Crashes that you can rejoin?

[gentle oxide]

1 shot are ridiculous in this game, only weight class who should have any 1 shot available is light to balance their small health pool

also they should make it so that any classes have a aoe emp available (optional equipment on high cd) to counter the mine dumping on obj

[plush grotto]

If glitch grenades fully deactivated mines and c4 it’d be great. I don’t get why they don’t. They should also glitch heavies when they have a mesh shield up or bubble. It takes two glitch grenades to get rid of a bubble… why?

[dusk eagle]

i would suggest replacing glitch mines for glitch grenades for medium. helps with pushing objs

[scenic grove]

Yeah, there Is still a lot to balance in this game and i Hope that they listen to the community and not like other games. I Will give It time

[gray bough]

I do hate getting one shot by a mine when playing light but… they’re not that hard to spot once you get used to it

What should be nerfed though is the time to activate. It’s stupid that someone can run away in a staircase and just throw a mine while I’m following them

[prime pebble]

damn I load up and it says im banned any1 know how to fix this I did nothing but just play the game normally

[slate mauve]

glitch =/= disable already placed gadgets. seems fair to me.

although i would love to pick up opponents c4/mines...and toss them elsewhere

[jade cairn]

hahahahahahahahahahahah git good @prime pebble maybe dont cheat

[median bramble]

fix cheaters

[grave gazelle]

#game-announcements

[steady sierra]

Enable EAC for Linux!

[plush grotto]

I wish they would be more accurate to where I step. I will walk around them and still activate. They act more like claymores than mines.

[royal gust]

Lock of the region when?

[scenic grove]

Yeah the explosive ones, but once u spotted a gas mine you cant do really much, u can Just Active It and wait till it's finished.
Btw @jade cairn i am good enough don't worry bro

[cyan monolith]

throwing knives need accuracy buff and maybe a right click time reduction, heavy shotgun needs nerf, TDM/solo game mode of some kind with healthpacks around the map, more freakin skins cuz i wanna SWIPE SWIPE SWIPE my credit card

[slate mauve]

you can run back and pick up the millions of fire barrels around and toss it in there. or a pyro nade. or a pyro mine.

fire removes gas
smoke removes fire

[gray bough]

Yes
Especially the in air throwing knive accuracy. It’s horrible

[unreal marsh]

teamplay seems to kind of be ignored tbh, depositing 23k in a bank it match is almost worthless if your teammates only bank 5k between the two

[wispy rain]

If we bought credits or other things in the beta I thought they were transferriing over to the full release? or I thought we were just getting credits back? Am I wrong?

[gentle oxide]

Yeah, tho i gotta say, as a medium main myself, they gotta increase the cd on gas mine, sure you can counter em but occupying a gadget slot just to counter something is kinda cheap

also is bad when it comes to rando queues

[jade cairn]

no it is not busted, i noticed i was getting really frusterated playing the game cause ive been playing it a lot i took a day off and tbh i was just getting angry. there is a couple things that are unbalanced but for the most part you have to learn how to counter what your fighting against

[astral jewel]

When I die, allow me to immediately switch my view to specate, rather than locking me into viewing my enemy for the next trillion seconds.

[iron fable]

yeah, just been playing casually, idk it worked for 5 days straight

[plush grotto]

About everything has a counter, that’s what I love about it. Light is honestly slept on for ranked. It’s the perfect counter for heavies.

Outside of the shotty, lh1 ttk is quicker than either the lmgs (if you’re accurate)

[twilit lily]

Heavy is busted period. Keep personal taste/opinion out of it and look at the general consensus amongst people in general, even pro players from other games. All of them agree heavy is over tuned. While the shotgun might not be the worst part of the kit at all, it's still not balanced either. Sometimes you gotta put personal feelings/opinions to the side and see that if MOST people who have 10's of thousands of hours in FPS games say something is busted, it's likely busted. I can bet both my nuts we'll see a heavy nerf whenever a balance patch drops and it'll be significant.
@plush grotto HUH? Lights evaporate against heavies...What are you on about? That's the LITERAL meme people post everywhere. Is lights being just decimated into coins in different gifs/memes everywhere by heavies lmao.

[slate mauve]

definitely harder to counterplay with gadgets being solo queue, but fortunately that's where all the map throwables come in

[prime pebble]

Dude I don't cheat smfh

[round goblet]

Man I love using Lights, the outplay potential is real. Just buff me a tad bit Embark.. please🫠, no not the shotty (nerf that spread).

[hoary scaffold]

Whatupppppp!

[plush grotto]

It’s because most suck. They just rush in and die. If they would take a second to think instead of trying to play tdm and bitching about how quick they die, they’d do a lot better lmao. It’s all skill issue and lack of intelligence.
But light does suck if your teammates are incompetent as well.

Also I evaporate heavies 9 times out of 10.

[gentle oxide]

@slate mauve
Yeah but again, thats why i mentionned cooldowns, cool you used barrel, now you got a whole runback to do just to get another barrel to counter a second mine

[jade cairn]

than why would you get banned you goofy goober

[solar trellis]

Could we please have the option to turn off anti-aliasing? Playing the game at 1080p with the forced Temporal AA makes me feel sick as I'm watching a moving watercolor painting on my screen, trying to discern blurry ghosting blobs of color into shapes. It's especially egregious when sniping, as characters in the distance are literally ghosting so incredibly hard, like those Animorphs book covers. Would post a screenshot if I could but cant.

[prime pebble]

You are a 🤡

[slate mauve]

that's a fair point. maybe i'm being to optimistic that my random teammates follow-up 🤣

[raw lion]

localize the price for Türkiye (day2)

[gentle oxide]

Yeah but yk, its a game about coordination so youre right in that way, it all comes down to who has the best teamplay

[plush grotto]

Hopefully the eac update will be good

[ivory fern]

Getting killed by a single mine as light is kinda not fun, atleast RPG's have long cooldowns, mines dont and comes in a pack of 2

[storm hare]

Hello

[gentle oxide]

greetings

[pastel mason]

Having hours in other games don’t mean as much and you contradicted yourself by saying you have to put personal feelings aside and listen to other people’s personal feelings. That’s a terrible argument. And light used well absolutely does shred heavies as they have the 4 highest ttk weapons in the game

[plush grotto]

Glitch grenade before dropping into a cashout room. See where the mines are, report back to your team and figure out how you want to disable them. Don’t chase behind people too. If you’re gonna go after someone, cut them off somewhere else (a lot of players will drop mines as they’re running).

[gray bough]

Hp takes way too much time to come back which force you to use heal bean

It’s not fun to have to rely on 1/9 of the classes in a game where you cab only play trios

[ivory fern]

guess ill die to a medium throwing it to my face ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[small karma]

Day 5

Hello Folks and Yolks! It's ya girl, comin' in again with the Bank It request, you know how it goes! 🤭

Daily request/reminder to revert Bank It to it's Open Beta state - 2 vaults active at once!

It had depth, and yolks had the option to go "Rat Mode" instead of "Chad Mode", and play it smarter around the less-contested vault. The flow the game had with the OB settings was engaging, near-perfect and unique to Bank It.

Post-launch Bank It is a fraction of a shadow of a thought of it's former self. 1 vault and 2 cash out points has ruined the gamemode's flow and turned it into a Moshpit Simulator™️ that is very similar in flow to Cash Out / Quick Cash, thus makes Bank It redundant.

There is no more thinking involved. Objective 1 - Get to or near the first vault. Objective 2 - Eliminate the competition because everyone goes there, it's the only vault up, so people moshpit around it. Objective 3 - Go to the cashout point with the most time remaining (because the first one is too dangerous 99.5% of the time).

It is dull, tactics-bare and lacks the unique and engaging flow that OB Bank It had.

With all due respect; please revert Bank It to it's OB settings and near-perfect flow.

Thank you! 💜

[dapper flare]

have you tried not stepping on a mine?

[solemn crescent]

ive been meet a lot of cheating lately kindda annoying ,is it just me or anyone been feeling it more lately?

[ionic crescent]

get rid of the sbmm change, i dont want to be running exclusively meta loadouts in pubs because everyone plays like its ranked.

[plush grotto]

I’m 50/50 on regen time. It would be nice if light had quicker cooldown, med a little slower than light, and heavy what it is right now. But idk, might unbalance the combat too much.

[clever jackal]

hello, what with my skins from beta finals.i dont have any of them

[quick coyote]

Cheater welp

[ivory fern]

i tried, but they dont have setup time, so i just die by them throwing them to me

[frank harness]

Try smoke grenades

[small karma]

As someone who dislikes situations with no counter-play.. I'd say indeed that you've got to watch your step! Plenty of ways around mines!

It COULD be interesting to give mines an "activation sound", like you're stepping on a switch, and if you step OFF then it blows you up, so if you're quick, you can stop dead in your tracks (difficult as Light, we want to go F A S T, I know, I love playing Light a lot! 😆) and maybe interact with it for 1.5s to disarm it?

The person who placed it could then get a "Mine disarmed!" warning and the mine would still work as an area control tool, even if it didn't kill you, they know you're coming now so they keep the advantage.

Thoughts? ?

[neat forge]

CAN WE PLEASE GET A REAL ANTI-CHEAT, EVERY SINGLE GAME HAS A CHEATER..... IM BEGGING PLEASE

[dapper flare]

i guess it depends how far they are, but if they are a more than a few feet away you can actually shoot the mine and it does the damage to them. Other than that I would just dash away.

[lapis acorn]

What rank? If it’s low Elo then I get it but otherwise you’re just a statue the whole game

[red pollen]

I had this idea for the game, When and if you decide to make a esports scene you should 100% allow users to spectate the rounds with the team wipe camera. You could make it cost money to have a ticket to watch the esports or something like that or you could get it automaticly with the premium season pass. Me being a game developer i know that this could be very heavy on the game but you should check look into it. I really like the game and I want to see it grow and I think this is a awsome way for it to grow.

[plush grotto]

Gold 2

Running lh1 or the pistol for higher ranked lobbies is much better than shotty too. It’s weird how different it is than unranked

[amber bison]

Add ranks to Scoreboard in ranked matches so we know who we are playing!

[small karma]

Unsure what kind of feedback this is.. I'm seeing a scoreboard. It's difficult to gleam anything meaningful out of this kind of post.

That might've been going through the whole match, also their ally has 7 assists, so they're together, maybe just.. matchmaking diff?

I can't even say skill issue, I have NOTHING to go off of except the scoreboard. Cheats? Maybe this was instantaneous at round start? There's score on the right side, I don't think that was it...

See what I mean? I'm having to detective through the screenshot to figure out what exactly happened.

If you're bringing it as feedback, please be detailed, just going "cheater welp" doesn't contribute much at all. 😅

[quick coyote]

No ._.
Was hitting us from accros thé Mactch with shotgun
With 100% accuracy and 100% damage

[pure pagoda]

you know they are never going to try and resolve the issue bro when they had chosen Easy Anti-Cheat as their anti cheat system🤭

[brittle turret]

french spotted

[sly ravine]

baguette

[gray bough]

It’s so annoying when I’m playing light and take some splash dmg (lets say a poison cloud) and I’m forced to stop fighting for 10 sec

[crystal imp]

You aren't really meant to be able to handle every scenario as a light though, that's probably the main takeaway. Have a medium healing you, have the heavy go in and tank the damage, have a teammate bring the fire, etc.

[autumn surge]

getting black screen at launch. PLS HELP

[plush grotto]

Try verifying game files and check your drivers

[quick coyote]

You have le problème avec franchise

[lusty pivot]

haha you cannot heal toxicdamage and from guns. Yea, tracer is easy to kill, like a light

[crystal imp]

Tracer is a whole different beast though. Light in this game brings things like glitch (Sombra ult), ability to spot players and ping/use comms, support with a sniper, finish kills, distract and harrass. Tracer plays way more selfishly in comparison to how light is designed here.

[fierce grove]

this isnt overwatch

[small karma]

As a light main, I run LH1 and focus mediums since they're the support class 90% of the time. Then the heavy is left alone with no sustain and it's a war of attrition I can win because mobility and mid-long range damage from my LH1. 🤷‍♀️

I get that teamwork's strong, but I think it's something that can be dealt with. Even better, you have glitch nades that nuke abilities out of the game for way too long in my opinion. Just use them and overpower them both. 👍

[autumn surge]

can i run this game in i3 5005u 8gb ram intel 5500 hd graphics?, valorant run easily

[agile gust]

east asia server be like consecutive 6 games with cheaters and CMs and reddit mods are asking us to shut up about it 😦

[solar trellis]

anyone else feel like the M60 is poorly balanced? Has way too much recoil for how low damage it has. It does even less damage than the AK but has way more and far less controllable recoil. The 70 bullets per mag it has does not make up for the lack of damage and slow rate of fire at all, as you'll mostly be dead way before you can land all your hits on target. Takes 21-22 hits on the Heavy in test range to kill, while AK-47 takes 18-19. Lewis gun is 14-15. Imo the M60 should have the same bullets to kill as the AK with how much recoil and how slow it's rate of fire is. The M60 just doesnt compete at all and I can't find a place for it. It deserves a damage buff.

[hoary scaffold]

Motion sensor work?

[quick coyote]

Woah woah what's that emoji @plush grotto

[fiery harness]

dude game keeps on crashing wth

[patent barn]

There’s currently a glitch that somehow doesn’t let you shoot your gun, use the healing beam or defibs, i saw this glitch back in the open beta it somehow passed over after launch would send a vid but i cant send in this channel

[lunar halo]

when i want to start the finals it says ,,launch error 0xC0020015"

[dire matrix]

Another day and the chinese keep cheating 🙂

[abstract marlin]

It’s almost like the heavy has much more health than the medium and therefore doesn’t need to deal as much damage for it to be fair. Also Lewis has more recoil so that’s the trade off

[solar trellis]

that doesn't make up for it or balance it out. The Lewis gun does 14-15 (to heavy) bullets to kill and has FAR more manageable recoil. The M60 is unbalanced and has literally no place or use, and zero reason at all to use it over the Lewis gun. Literally any other gun will kill you faster than you can kill it, AND you have to manage the terrible recoil of the M60. It's a lose-lose in all situations.

[quick coyote]

The finals is only game dont have text chat in history EMBARK ADD TEXT CHAT

[slate mauve]

the flashing lights and beeps are a dead giveaway.

[abstract marlin]

From what I am seeing online the m60 isn’t anywhere close to 22 bullets to kill, also m60 has faster rpm than Lewis

[solar trellis]

it literally is to a heavy. I just tested it in the range. I also tried using the M60 yesterday for around 10 games and its literally unusable with how much recoil (horizontal specifically) it has, and how low damage it has. Switched to Lewis gun and immedietly had a much better time. No reason at all to use M60 and it should be buffed. Either a recoil buff or damage buff, but I would vote a damage buff to make it more in-line with the AK-47.

[native jolt]

I would really like to see separate relative aim percentages for each oof the weapons, I want a much lower percent for something like the sniper rifle and zoomed in but somewhere in the middle for most of the other weapons with some differences for some of the other weapons I use a little differently, it's pretty annoying that I have to go in and change the percent when I swap weapons, I sometimes forget and then get into a fight where the zoomed aim isn't what I expect / need. This would be a huge QOL change!

[thorn venture]

new bug where the game with straight up crash with no error then when you launch again it crashes on launch

[sly ravine]

to any dev listening please add a brightness setting, I literally cannot see anything in the dark maps

[hoary scaffold]

Gray launch!

[abstract marlin]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NHg1VZ3rILNSv6Z-PxQ9krM0VNNtIMh7HX4G4SDFufk/edit ttk for all weapons, there seems to be a bug rn for damage variations

[crystal imp]

Right, which is why trading kills is usually not that great, and the game isn't about kills or damage. It's about coordinated efforts on the objective. Me and my team generally don't get the most damage or kills, but still end up winning. Prioritizing teamplay as a light is how you win as a light, having the most damage or the most kills doesn't necessarily mean you're being the most useful to your team.

[gray flare]

the light player on your team in tournament solo queue off on the other side of the goddamn map camping in corners for kills and then literally screaming at you in voice chat when the team inevitably loses

[gray bough]

Light needs buffs

[dire matrix]

Need not to get cheating chinese everyday on EU lobbys

[small karma]

I'd say Light excells at Bank It due to the fast-paced nature of it. I've rarely seen any other class, even Med with zips, be able to match the frantic pace of Light. That's where it excells IMO.

Cash Out / all the other gamemodes even tournaments rely on holding a position, and light has very little tools to do so, so it makes sense for those gamemodes to see MMH / MHH / MMM / HHH run more often.

It's like asking a Tracer to hold a point on a 2CP map. That's not her forte. She's there to poke and prod and hit the enemy backline... maybe try playing light that way in the Finals? Hell, you could say Light is a lot more like a Sombra on crack with their cloak lol

I understand that in comparison, Light's weak on defense.. but rather than nerf defense, I'd just say if you're a hardcore Light main speedfreak like yours truly... then you really have to adapt. You've got plenty of tools to do it with, I'd experiment with it more before asking for nerfs, personally.

... or be like me and only play Bank It because that mode's FUN compared to holding a cap for 2 minutes getting 3-teamed 😂

TL;DR :
Light bad in a straight-up fight unless you're using the sawn-off.. but you only get ONE KILL with that thing before you reload, so you're wide open (which is perfect, folks need to have some downtime..).

Play less "in your face", flank more, be sneaky with cloak and other traversal tools at your disposal. You got this, it's not unwinnable. Team up and wreck em'!

[hardy jay]

CM momo gonna make you guys lose a lot of player base. Gaming in no place for WOKENESS. We are here to game and game alone

[slim sapphire]

Hello ! Is there a possibility to add a « Sabotage / Trolling » report option ? Some players just don’t play, troll, sabotage the lobbies or just « feed » the ennemies and let us 2v3v3 or 1v3v3 🥲 Thanks for this

[gray bough]

Glich grenades should delete all mines, turrets and shields

Tf am I supposed to do if I enter a room and it’s full of mines, shields and turrets?

[steady sierra]

Enable EAC for linux please!

[dire matrix]

REMOVE C4S ON BARRELS LIKE WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT?!

[visual bronze]

can you please make it to were mine dont work in a raidius LIKE WTF EMBARK IM SO SICK OF SEEING MINE AND NOT STEPING ON THEM AND THEM STILL BLOWING UP freaking annoying starting to hate this game

[sturdy crater]

is anyone else getting a random blue glow in the lobbies ? happens randomly and it doesnt happpen anywhere else in game. just in lobby it will disappear after a few seconds.

[small karma]

👍 for mines, 👎 for turrets and shields, personally.

Mines are on a similar cooldown to glitch nades, it's an equal investment to reset the field, makes sense balance-wise to me!

[quick pasture]

custom maps might be cool idk

[regal silo]

Hoping for the ability to bind interact/pick up object to the same button, its been how i've had keybindings set up all beta and it worked well, dont know why it was removed.

[gray bough]

But how am I supposed to deal with turrets them? It takes 3 sec to destroy one with throwing knives and by the time I’ve destroyed it i only have 25% of my health left because I’m on light

[steady sierra]

Enable EAC for Linux please!

[fickle haven]

Getting your team wiped at the last second is an unfair advantage to the other team because its a guaranteed win; What if a 30 second overtime is added if a team is knocked out right when a cashout will take place?

[visual bronze]

the light class is the most useless class in the entire game you cant even out dps a medium

[crystal imp]

I dunno, I just disagree. Glitch grenades are just fucked up right now, and the way people move around objectives, being on the outskirts and taking out people who are backing off, or otherwise being behind a team, shooting them long enough to get them to turn around, and then leaving... All of this has been really valuable to our team. Hell, if you're playing safe, defib is only -so- good, as it's a resource you made them spend and if you're ahead, you're still ahead.

@fickle haven Also this is the stupidest take I've ever seen, I had to comment, lol.

[sacred siren]

1. glitch grenades disable everything including turrets 2. idk why you're trying to take on the entire world as a light, theres a reason you have a team, and you need to rely on them sometimes 3. dont play light (especially throwing knives cause its sucks) LOL

[stray tangle]

Bring back old flamethrower

[kind fulcrum]

shotgun needs buff to bullet spread. overall damage. head damage. tracing bullets. and more

[small karma]

I'd say Light is the most adaptative class in the game due to it's traversal tools.

Dashes have close to no windup, it's VERY difficult to win a strafe battle as M/H when the light's strafe sends them out the side of the screen because it's a dash... or when they dash ONTO you and one-tap you as a medium, or two-tap you as heavy.

The grapple (my beloved ) lets you enter engagements from wacky angles, above, on the side, by the window.. and you can use it on the ground to circle-strafe around folks in wide open areas at mach 2. It's got some uses there, but it's not the best at straight-up fights. I use it like I use Tracer's recall. I disengage and skedaddle to a weird off-angle where the defenders can't see me and I heal up.

Cloak I haven't used offensively, YMMV, you'll have to figure that one out.. but you have plenty of tools to be relevant, especially with the fact you can yoink downed ally tokens and revive them elsewhere with EASE with the grapple.. I think you're under-estimating the impact Light has.

@gray bough

But how am I supposed to deal with turrets them? It takes 3 sec to destroy one with throwing knives and by the time I’ve destroyed it i only have 25% of my health left because I’m on light
Turrets are a direct counter to Light and a deterrent for Mediums. You don't engage it head-on. You chuck a goo grenade on it, or a glitch grenade, or you just disengage and let your heavy bonk it with his hammer or something. It's not your job as a light to clear turrets.

Goo grenade is goated against them, land it on the turret and it's blind. 👍 Easy as 2-Aim-Leftclick!

If you really really hate the turret, throw a flame nade on the goo to show it who's boss! And then run away because your goo's gonna be gone soon. 🤣

[cyan perch]

are we fixing the false afk yet? i keep getting a ban after playing a full tourney for afk but i played the whole thing

[dire matrix]

server block chinese players pls, they often cheat blatantly. Not racist they just like to hack in video games

[worldly hollow]

@quick coyote he racist

[indigo oracle]

Make it so c4 doesn't stick to carryable objects, nerf heavy shotgun, nerf double barrel shotgun. The meta is incredibly stale in ranked tournaments. One shot or two shot mechanics need to go, it is not fun to play when you or your opponents die in less than a second.

[glass frost]

^^^^ also nerf the bubble shield

[pure pagoda]

is there a patch for connection problem plz? often got a 30min cool down after the game don't allow us to reconnect nor connect ty

[small karma]

I have a strat / suggestion for you instead of the vitriol being chucked your way (please ignore them, if it's not constructive it's not worth caring about). Here's the strat I use for late-capture defense :

Last 30s of a point, fake-desert it. Leave it WIDE OPEN for greedy little late-comers to the fight who'll try to yoink the OBJ from you... and shoot them in the back. Go "outside defense" when the timer gets low, to lower the heat on yourself by being further out from the OBJ, but still close enough where you can C4/RPG/Breach a wall and nuke the cheeky ones trying to steal the glory. 🧠

You got this, it feels bad when you lose, but you've got to adapt! It feels amazing to win that clutch fight when you're the aggressor, so think about both sides before swaying the balance to one or the other!

[wide mortar]

cry about it

[kind fulcrum]

They should block americans, canadians, russians, middle eastern, europe. TLDR; ban the world

[thorn thunder]

devs, consider battleye. that is all

[wet hatch]

Can we have a way to use keyboard on console and be able to change the settings pwease :(

[untold field]

NERF RPG AND HEALING BEAM

[quick marsh]

C4 sticking to throwable items is part of the game. Instead of nerfing those guns find strategies around them like the game is meant to be played. For every broken thing there is a counter, except for the heavy hammer

[dire matrix]

Nop 10/10 times I get a cheater they have chinese name soo

[dense star]

my finals has been crashing constantly does anyone else have this problem?

[glass frost]

I and probly others want to know ur work around for getting 2 tapped by shotguns plz as a medium ?????

[ionic berry]

For the ranked rewards, it would be nice to add something else instead of the stickers, like it was in both closed betas

[crystal imp]

Vitriol is a way of life.

I get where you're coming from, you're being very kind and levelheaded, I just assume that the type of people who come here and say "This sucks, here's my idea on how to change it" aren't looking for advice and likely won't be accepting of it.

I'd rather be a jerk and save my breath, but that's just me. Continue being positive even though this community doesn't deserve it, lol.

[quick coyote]

a lot of hackers

[small karma]

Consider this; copy-pasting characters into a name is not solely something available to the people who speak that language. 😅

I understand the frustration, but HACKING is the issue. Not someone's nationality. You don't fix a problem by walling an entire nation from playing your game. They have to address it at the root, and they've been doing nothing but that for the past couple messages in #game-announcements .

Patience, hold on, take breaks if it tilts you, give em' time, it's on the way!

@crystal imp
Positivity is equally my way of life 🤭 Couldn't change it if I wanted, just comes naturally lol

Thanks! I'll keep it up, we'll see down the line what kind of feedback has the bigger impact! Can't tell until time passes and Embark keep workin' on it!

[neon jasper]

Ban cheaters.

[slow musk]

its not fair every shotgun to be so ez to use+ to deal so much damage= PLS NERF THEM... if they are not getting nerf, there is no point playing the game, bc ur basically forced to play shotgun (the game is not competitive when there is 1 strong weapon with is shotgun )

[exotic trellis]

still no solution on error code TFLA0002? I want to play the game, but I can't

[severe ibex]

SHIT COMPANY!
The CEO of this company is talking about developing other games already, when this game was in BETA for 6 months and is still product with SHIT processes.
They are saying how EMBARK STUDIOS listens to player feedback, but there is only one Support and Feedback channel.
This is ridiculous! Please stop developing games and focus on other things

Nobody replies from them, but then they advertise how they listen to player feedback.

[small karma]

Remember that "auto healing takes time" is countered by having your own medium who cuts that time down to 0s after you revive them. 😛

I'm being cheeky, I'm sure you get that, I just think that a team-oriented light can alleviate SO MUCH pressure because lights are kind of insane glass cannons.. Hell they're not even cannons, they're more like glass ICBMs with how fast they go, far from a static canon but I digress. 😆

The gripes you raise seem - to me as a third party / someone who plays Light a different way (we all do, to an extent) - to rise from solo-light moments vs. teams / other classes.

In a 1v2, you're fighting uphill, it'll feel rough no matter what, that's the nature of number advantages. There are no classes in this game that's a "carry class". You must work with your team when fighting against a team... or you have to put in some SERIOUS WORK to win those 2+ vs. You encounters.

I'd genuinely like to party up at some point, because you seem to get a lot of fundamental stuff that I wish some of the friends I party up with knew 😂

Imagine if you had a light who could keep up with you, and equalize those 2v1s into 2v2s.. with the insane damage the LL pair brings. 👀 I'm just sayin'~ It'd be sick~

[slim mountain]

If defib is pretty much an instant cast then they should not spawn invincible, you should be able to attack anybody who has been revided INSTANTLY

[crystal imp]

Most of my concern is that people coming into this game from other FPSes are wanting the game to be something it's not. Especially when people are seemingly refusing to adapt or change their playstyle to suite the situation.

This is a team based game, where every class is designed to bring something relevant to the team, and when you put everything together it works really well. But it seems like people want every class (light especially) to be able to get an equal amount of kills and be able to 1v1 everyone (I even saw someone try to say that they should be able to 1v3 a team as long as they're "skilled enough").

I just want this game to be good, and continue to be unique. I'm playing The Finals because I want to play The Finals, not every other FPS.

But that's just me being honest instead of jaded, so I'll go back to being jaded.

[spice mountain]

No way game doesn't support kbm on console...

[verbal wadi]

For context I don't play ranked.
I think the heavy should be able to access a mobility option. Something like the zipline seems best imo.

[candid cypress]

I'm an undisputed fan of The Finals, but the stun gun really gets under my skin.

Slows down walking speed: OK
Disable Gadget: NO
Disable specialization: NO
Impossible to aim: NO or maybe (I'd be willing to accept that)

Not to mention the range of the thing, it's almost a sniper.

But what drives me crazy more than anything are the Invisibility + Stungun + shotgun players, this kind of individual shouldn't have the legitimacy to live, toxic gameplay has fuck.

(Totally objective opinion, certainly not written after a few inconclusive games c: )

[oak pike]

The big thing with lights is that you need someone who understands positioning and movement. However heavies are also capable of immediately invalidating light players which also cuts out another chunk of those 1/10 players left. It's overall a very weird situation and I'd rather not have a light on my team at all when mediums and heavy are so strong.

[quick marsh]

Simple, have your heavy switch to flamethrower and break open the room and heal your heavy.

Its a team game, counter their shit as a team!

I find usually dropping the objective down a floor and laying down traps is a great way to shake up a shotty, they have to run at you and set everything off.

If a full team with a heavy shotty is setup on an objective, its stupid to just push into them. SHAKE UP THEIR PLAN. Canisters, poison, full building demolition. All of these things can be used in so many ways, find the way that works.

[graceful lily]

Suggest to be able to equip weapons customizations on the Equipment screen, not on the specific contestants loadout screen.

[crystal imp]

IMO if heavy was ever to get a movement option, they should be able to rocket/c4 jump. Have it cost a decent chunk of health, like 100, in exchange for about as much vertical accessibility/momentum as a grappling hook.

I'm sure heavy SHOULDN'T have an option like this for balance reasons, but it would be really funny to rocket jump up and then elbow drop down through the roof.

[brittle ginkgo]

shooting out a mine/c4 should destroy it and not trigger it

[lavish shell]

the heavy movement option is moving the objective to you

[thorn estuary]

Tune down the SBMM...game was so much more enjoyable when the matches had variation and you could actually experiment with off-meta kits. Practice playing classes you are not great with and still enjoy your time.

Friends won't play with me due to my lobbies, I can't mess around and try things out without being severely punished for it in my lobbies. Game was fun in the closed and open Betas.

[verbal wadi]

Fair take 🤣, tho I would like something for map traversal for those awkward far off spawns.

[native halo]

Apparently every chinese PC comes with pre-installed cheats. Maybe it is time to finally separate them from us?

[plush grotto]

Don’t judge a man till you’ve cranked a mile on his hog

[visual bronze]

pls nerf the heavy shotgun

[crystal imp]

Can we work to get actual real problems fixed though.

The inspect for the guitar skin for sledgehammer needs to either play a full song, or at least loop cleanly. This is unacceptable.

[tulip furnace]

Hello i like your game alot but i have would like to inspect skins and have a preview on them and there ingame animations so i could decide wich ones i prefer. Much Love a little Knife addict

[small karma]

Genuinely, I appreciate the honesty on display, and agree with you wholeheartedly here.

The Final's got a HELL of a unique concoction. Movement heavy, teamwork heavy, where a single change as small as desyncing the timer between the spawn of two Vaults can make or break a gamemode (again, this is me begging for Embark to make Bank It OB again 😭 I miss it so muchhhhh)..

They've got a game on a razor's edge of goodness, and if they listen to too many loud people, they might really ruin this unique blend they've got, and it'll start tasting like every other FPS blend out there. 💤 That's not what I want, I want The Finals to flourish into it's own and stay relevant!

Enjoy the jade, I'mma go back to replying to folks to hopefully keep things constructive instead of destructive! 🤭

[oak pike]

If heavies take even less damage when rpging their feet then it just promotes using it purely offensively to rocket players even more.

[crystal imp]

Yeah probably, hence why it's not that great of an idea, more just a funny one.

[neon jasper]

Lights need a 25 health buff, RPGs should not one shot them and a mine should not one shot them.

[worldly scaffold]

Can you make the bunny jacket from store to display upper back items? Also would be nice of the final BP reward would be modular (don't really see reason why not? Separate top, bottom, and the skirt maybe as lower back item, or part of the pants.

[small karma]

RE: Lights get nuked by folks, very dangerous to play when H/M strong.
I understand the critique and worry, and somewhat share it! I just doubt that Lights are as "useless" as yolks paint them. It's not all sunshine or storm, there's plenty of in-between.

It is very difficult to keep up with a light as a M/H, though, and when your Light is someone who got filled in with your duo.. it sucks to have to try to herd the runaway cat so they teamwork instead of dying on repeat. 😅

I'd like for classes to get difficulty ratings, like HVY would be 1 ⭐, Medium would be 3 ⭐ and Light would be 5 ⭐ . That way, maybe newbies are scared off from Light a bit.. and focus on the team-play more..?

Maybe a teamplay tutorial / video you see often on the main menu could help? Or even in-game on some billboards, where it keeps drilling home the "Make it through to the finals TOGETHER, or GO HOME ALONE!" slogan or something idk.

There's so many ways to tackle this, but the root issue is; A Light who strays is a Light who dies 90% of the time. The community/playerbase as a whole needs to understand this at some point! Teamplay RULES, you gotta reach The Finals as a team!

[jade cairn]

maybe you should not run into the mines and start to look for them

[covert grotto]

Me and all of my friends have experienced mid-game crashes every other game for the last few days, has anyone else had the same problem?

[verbal wadi]

Would joining an inprogress game feel better if the game told you we got bonus xp or the match doesn't count if we loose?

[lost umbra]

Sniper should get a serious buff. At least 1-shot mediums by a headshot because it's so frustrating to play it

[naive sandal]

Matchmaking is HORRIBLE in Tournament. First I had a good winrate.... not too good. Now I lost like 10 games in a row. Just out of a sudden. Too many sweaty full stacks with H H M full explosives and healing

[safe latch]

I love chinese players they are so much fun to play with 😄 apparently they are all just gods at this game and for sure not cheating 😄

[neon jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-obvious-captain-thankscaptainobvious-gif-18783644

[oak pike]

if they listen to too many loud people, they might really ruin this unique blend they've got
Honestly they've already ruined it to some extent. The game is at it's peak when it's about destruction and chaos. The real meta for winning matches right now is a fucking miserable stall meta. Most people who post in these channels are genuinely not good enough to run in to the sweaty players who know how to abuse the gas, aps, ziplines, mesh shield, etc. to stall but when you run in to them you might as well give up if you don't have at least two teams attacking that cash out at the same time. I've given up trying to give real balance suggestions since Embark doesn't listen to players anyway but it really needs to change soon.

[dire matrix]

ALL explosives need to be nerfed it's RNG now. No attaching explosives to barrels

[jade cairn]

git good that is the whole point of this game is to use your brain/enviroment to your advantage.

[vernal terrace]

Please get rid of the dumb wall the Heavy can put up the shield.... It blocks a dam rocket has to be the most broken thing i have ever seen. Bullets I understand not a point blank rocket does 0 dmg lol

[hoary scaffold]

level

[quick coyote]

Agreed but use glitch grenade done

[small karma]

Sadly, unless they adjust their Discord, this place is just more of a rant channel than a feedback channel.

🧵 T H R E A D S 🧵 would fix this. With a max of 1000, we'd have enough for quite a while, and we could react with ✅ and ❌ to the suggestion in the thread title to show support / being against it.

(If you wanna be cute, we could have and instead lol)

It would make more sense than having a SINGULAR feedback channel, with a couple of channels to discuss very few things (like classes, every single map and every single weapon and gadget in one).

I'll keep trying to repeat my feedback until it gets seen / read by someone at Embark, though! That's all I can do, so I'll give it my all!

[orchid island]

one time i was facing one, got him one shot, chased him down the stairs, and while i was mid jump he turned around, placed a mine under me, and blew me up. I've never recovered

[safe latch]

chinese players are just gods i guess

[slate mauve]

technically still feedback x)

[dire matrix]

Add custom games?

[noble steppe]

Stun guns need to appear on damage log, so we can see who stunned us

[mellow notch]

anyone getting really bad lag whenever the alien invasion event is going on? I have a ryzen 7 7800x3d + 6950xt and getting 5-10 fps during those events

[small karma]

Useless feedback is - indeed - technically still feedback. 😂

[jade cairn]

people need to learn how to counter peoples loadouts in this game, yes there are a couple things that are broken but for the most part all of you just dont know how to counter mines,turrets and invis and it def dosent help when you play solo with no comms but if you have a team you got from lfg and you play as a team and stick together it pretty hard to loose a match

[crystal imp]

Flashbang should be reworked into a malware grenade, make it cover people's screens in popup ads for the sponsors.

[hoary scaffold]

ah

[night spire]

multibucks and cosmetics deals.

[quick coyote]

Nice idea bro

[quick marsh]

Thats fucking hilarious id vote for that

[slate mauve]

i'd like not to have a mini-seizure when the match starts and the bright white light blinds me into another state of being

[vernal rock]

fix the snipers....

[wide summit]

what is wrong with the sniper, dude everyone has a problem with something lol. Jesus christ. I had one dude last week saying the sniper sucks because you cant fight up close and blah blah blah. I was doing so well with it yesterday and even up close. I swear ppl want this game nerfed to the point of no fun

[vernal rock]

whats wrong with the snipers? 1. The cross hair isnt always accurate as the bullet always go from the centre of your screen not where the scope crosshair is. 2. The hit reg is hit and miss on a good day. 3. You get punished for hitting headshots close range as you always need to follow up with a second unless against another light. I personally believe the headshot damage should be at least 250

[quick marsh]

People are stuck playing one single playstyle and hate that it cant 1v8 the lobby

[random pecan]

BUMP This!!!! Need some steam deck Support please

[dense ice]

Have the devs / CMs create a channel on this discord with a list of known issues and or issues that are being worked on, so we dont spam the bug channel with the same bugs over and over. Its hard to know if its been acknowledged by a CM in the sea of hate and bug reports

[swift sluice]

can the discord moderators PLEASE MAKE A CONSOLE ONLY CHANNEL ITS SO HARD TO FIND A LFG FOR PS5

[grave spoke]

@quick coyote @quick coyote Please add a console only Lfg 🙏🙏

[short thistle]

is there team text chat in this team game? i can't find it?
i thought this the game is finished now. i don't wanna listen to kids in voice chat, text chat is a must have.

[chilly gale]

so many cheaters impossible to play, every game i play against cheater for 3 hours, this game will die with such weak anticheat

[open epoch]

i want to hurry up and unlock ranked im finna go pro

[ionic berry]

Or at least change how the stickers look, kinda like the R6 ranked rewards with the charms changing every seasons

[naive pier]

Where can i contact support?

I am having weird issues with audio chat

[sacred junco]

nerf heavy

[grizzled scroll]

There is #📧┇contact-us

[river sparrow]

I didn't know this game existed until a few days ago an now I'm addicted

[oak shuttle]

Unplayable game with these hackers

[oblique siren]

I don't know if others agree, but personally I'm not a big fan of having to reload after being revived, I forget about it all the time haha

[verbal wadi]

I wish there was a wildcard game mode that introduced the game end events much sooner on the clock.

[dull isle]

dear dev-s when do you buff the china lake grenade launcher (cl-40)? its deals less damage than lever action shotgun THIS IS GRENADE LAUNCHER IT SHOULD ONE HIT KILL but for the sake of game i understand that would be broken but still it deals too small amount of damage you know for a freaking 40MM EXPLODING CARTRIDGE that sould annihilate everything in 5 meter area after explosion so just add some more damage to it please

[silver grove]

i keep getting an error saying not enought video memory allocated to run. is there any fix or a way to still play the game?

[opaque pier]

I crash more now that they addressed it in the patch notes fffs

[tropic flax]

Rocket make them go boom

[acoustic hedge]

It's so frustrating to play against people that are clearly using crosshair overlays.
The game in it's current state pretty much screams "use a crosshair overlay or have a significant disadvantage against those that do".

It's also something the developers can NEVER prevent - people using their monitor's built in crosshair will NEVER be detected.
Simply not possible on a technical level.

There's also people just physically sticking something in the center of the screen.

Is there any community manager that can give a comment on why using a custom crosshair isn't allowed for the time being?

As long as bullets fire towards the middle of the screen instead of what's in your sight, it's just not logical to put in this "don't use custom crosshairs" rule. There is a portion of the (competitive) playerbase that can and will always use this, completely undetectable.

@quick coyote @quick coyote

I feel like the true answer to issues like this is to fix the underlying issue, not punish players for wanting to enjoy the game and have the same chance as everyone.

I love this game a lot, and I really enjoy it, but I feel like being harsh on players that want a level playing field really isn't the right thing at this moment and time.

I don't want to break rules, I just want a fair chance.

[versed depot]

Unplayable of 2 heavies with spam shotgun [every round moment]

[restive otter]

In asia servers its absurd how many hackers their are

[jovial flicker]

Still getting "connection failed" error, cant play competitive 😭

[paper forge]

I guess yeah

[cloud jolt]

heavy meta goes absolutely insane

[river sparrow]

I haven't run into any obvious cheaters but I exclusively play quick play. Are they all in tournament mode?
I've been having a blast playing casually. Balance is kinda wacky, but this game has been a breath of fresh air.

[lilac tundra]

add support to linux and macs os so more people could enjoy the game ! i find that stupid that people still does not unlock the eac for mac os or linux xD but great game so far but i hope soon more people can enjoy it

[wide summit]

i played all day yesterday and ran into one cheater

[sacred junco]

good for you

[winged wyvern]

nerf c4

[verbal wadi]

I feel like instead of nerfing C4 they could add gadget exclusivity. Like c4 and RPG can't be taken together. Light couldn't take glitch grenades and stun gun. Medium can't take defib and x?

They would have to be careful. I generally like that gadgets have no real restrictions.

[oak pike]

PLEASE add fucking hud opacity options. Having my view blocked by objective and revive markers is infuriating

[rotund rock]

RPG cooldown is too fast. Right now, it cools down fast enough for it to be used again after a team got wiped with it. It needs to be more punishing to use if strategy is to be encouraged. The counters to the RPG are riskier than the RPG itself when attacking (when defending its not that bad imo, especially with an APS turret in loadout)

[cobalt blaze]

Again a creash and i cant join????? hello??

[fickle haven]

Why would medium not be able to take defib?

[tame basin]

Its fun at the start but over time you get put into too many hacker lobbies x_x

[winged wyvern]

no the c4 on fire barrils is way too op it one shots a heavy

[dry sedge]

uh i just logged on

[novel lion]

good game, community too racist

[lament marsh]

they just need to weigh the barrels down when C4 is on them

[silent hare]

👎🏿

[daring salmon]

pls enable team killing on lights, exclusively lights.

[verbal wadi]

in my scenario I don't think the medium has anything that's worth making mutually exclusive with another gadget. I've just seen some people complain about defib being OP. Even tho it usually get me killed half the time lol.

[gleaming siren]

make healing beam stop healing for 1 or 2 seconds after taking damage

[fickle haven]

I find defib to be quite useful

[wide summit]

so you wanna force ppl to play a certain way basically

[runic dawn]

suggestion for further season: new gadget: a portable crane that you put on the celling and you can activate and grab the cash box or cashout! Or maybe simply a reverse jumpad so you can put it on the celling and grab items like the alien spaceship

[verbal wadi]

I want each class to make gadget decisions with trade offs. Each gadget should be powerful, maybe theres a case were a gadget is so good it cant be paired in specific ways. But who knows, my particular example is definitely flawed.

[deft shadow]

Please

[sturdy wyvern]

Optimise the game please...

[oblique warren]

If we report cheaters we will receive a notification when banned ?

[thorn igloo]

THIS GUY SPITTIN !!!!!! THIS ONE RITE HERE !!! THIS THE ONE RITE HERE !!!

[wide summit]

i dont see much of a point of limited items, maybe limiting team makeup like overwatch so you dont run into a heavy with 2 healers on him or a point that has 6 turrets on it. ETC But again I dont have an issue with ppl using c4 and the RPG. The heave doesnt get things the other classes have as well.

[tame basin]

get a real anti cheat pls

[gleaming siren]

no

[alpine wren]

I think my comments may seem a little superficial to many people. But it would be interesting to have the game's music available as an album on Spotify, Deezer, ITunes, etc...

[verbal wadi]

It would be really cool if they published Win rate stats to see how well different class comps do with different special gadgets.

[oblique warren]

i think we need that

[raven locust]

One thing I would appreciate is maybe being able to select like 3 weekly/daily missions and have them show up when I click tab during a game. I absolutely despise playing melee so knowing when I can immediately stop playing it after 1500 damage and actually go back to helping my team win with a gun would be nice.

[strong wave]

For winning the tournaments instead of getting loads of xp can we also introduce like a crate system where u can get random items, or credits to open crates like in rocket league, i think that would be a good way to have more ppl play the tournaments as there is something to win

[dull isle]

BUFF CL-40!!!!!!!!!

[hot hound]

Loot crates are the last thing we need in our games rn

[gleaming siren]

defib, heal beam are kinda op imo in its current state, since you can just put heal beam on someone to help them push instead of (what i assume its purpose was intended to be) a way for mediums to help teammates who just got in a fight or to help reengage with their team

[sudden trail]

Let 2 frag bombs to destroy environmemt

[dim narwhal]

How did this even come to this lmao!?

[daring salmon]

it will happen, because this is modern gaming

[verbal wadi]

They are op but it also means the medium isn't on DPS which is a rather large trade off IMO.

[abstract pebble]

my god there's a gamer that actually WANTS loot crates GET ME OUT AAAAAAAAAAAA

[jade cairn]

thats called gambling

[strong wave]

better than spending money on it

[wide summit]

we dont need item roulette like counter strike ETC. dont ruin the game please

[drowsy sparrow]

i get kicked for something with anticheat every round

[clever heath]

cool animations with a chance to get any item > pay 20$ for item

[gleaming siren]

if youre a half second late to stop someone from stealing a cashout and they have people healing them theres almost nothing you can do

[bronze widget]

i just got banned for no reason anyone else have this issue

[dull isle]

BUFF CL-40!!!!!!!!

[abstract pebble]

pretty much 90% of games that have loot crate systems do it so they can justify putting 'buy 10x loot crates for x real money and get special items (epic / legendary rarity)' in the store. it creates a very very unhealthy ecosystem for the game where all the good cosmetics / items are only gained through gambling and common / rare cosmetic items are pushed into the actual store. There's heaps of case studies on it from modern games that show it has a hugely degregatory effect on peoples perception of the games' store

[honest musk]

Please add a way to see your teammates rank when you party.... (: Similar to valorant & apex

[verbal wadi]

I think that's a fine case, it feels great for the clutch steal. It does suck for the defending party tho.

I want healing beam to be strong so people feel good about playing supportive roles.

[alpine wren]

I know we've all had enough of this game mechanic, but what do you think of a battle royale mode? With the game's mechanics, I think it could really bring BR back to life. Obviously it could just be in the form of an FFA on a big map.

[wide adder]

Nerf Sniper and Light Class in general, buff sentry, nerf heavy sledgehammer or fix the animation cancel, nerf ballistic shield make it have a slowdown when you shoot it

[jade horizon]

Private matches please, we have to have fun with friends in casual lobbies without others disturbing us.. thx

[wide summit]

random item i dont want < any other form of microtransaction ever

[clever heath]

you can also get items you dont want from a level up/XP system?

[gleaming siren]

all i want is for healing beam to stop working or heal less for like 0.75 seconds after the person youre healing takes damage

also @wide adder hmm yes light class needs nerf trust

[daring salmon]

pls give light class rpg or lock on missiles

[quick coyote]

RPg should do 30 splash 80 direct it should be not be considered a kill option same with TNT and any other explosive they are on to short of a CD and to easily spammed

[slim mountain]

Why is nobody talking about defib? Fuck defib it needs a nerf, it needs a longer charge up time and whoever gets revived should be able to take damage immediately

[hardy jay]

they can get damaged right away and it has a pretty long cd. melted plenty of fools that go for a bad rez and i get a free triple kill

[tropic finch]

They can take damage immediately and have half health.

[steel oriole]

you geeking

[shut spire]

someone just got killed by a revived enemy using defib lmao

[abstract pebble]

not sure on this one, cooldown is pretty long AND they get rezzed at 50% hp, pretty big payoff

[jade cairn]

defib is not op please learn how to counter its almost like glitch grenades exist

[wide adder]

light mains need to stop coping and accept their class is OP

buff or readjust stats for the 2 machine guns heavy has as there is no difference between the two really at this point, maybe make the lewis gun have faster reload or something, there really is not much of a difference they do the exact same damage, just mag size and maybe accuracy

buff grenade launchers or give them alternative grenades that explode on impact and not just time

nerf the sniper rifle or give it a heavier and more obvious way to see the player, half the time you cant even see the shine cause they are at a certain angle

buff the amount of xp or whatever the currency is for gear, also buff the xp a tiny bit or give us like weekends where its double xp
(light is the easiest class in the game to play all you gotta do is circle and m1, literally carried several games like this, get your head out of your ass)

[verbal wadi]

I wouldn't cry if healing beam was 50% effective while under active fire. Jumping into cover should bring it back to 100% effective after about .3 seconds. But that's my subjective opinion as a medium main.

Defib is fine imo

[deft shadow]

give lights a brain

[quick coyote]

cough cough sorry but when everyone is playing double heavy and medium for meta in all ranks light are not OP. LMAO

[gleaming siren]

im fine with nerfing sniper rifle, i agree with that one

heavy is NOT bad tho, if theyre with their team guarding a cashout and they play right its almost impossible to get thru, and theyre rlly good at melting ppl and destroying construction

[daring salmon]

lights are easy to kill, problem with lights is that there's no cap

[wide summit]

just nerf the entire game so ppl stop having issues with weapons they dont use

[slim sapphire]

Lights got the most broken guns in the game RN, pistol MP5 and sniper got the lowest TTK…

[stone steeple]

Am i the only one who thinks the shorty is kinda... one of the best weapons in the game?

[alpine wren]

By the way, isn't anyone talking about the SA1216 shotgun from the heavy? It clearly deserves a nerf.

[tropic finch]

Lights die the fastest. In a fair 1:1 the health pool of a medium and heavy over come the damage output of a light. A light can be 1 shot by every class.

[gleaming siren]

lights get melted really quick too, as long as your aim isnt terrible then youll win a 1v1 with them
an ak, fcar or any automatic gun can kill a light super quick, the only issue i can see is if they stun gun you and pump headshots into u, but u can still shoot them, especially with heavy its really not a problem, but stun gun isnt too bad if youre with your team

@slim sapphire yeah butt 🍑
the light class also has by far least hp

[quick coyote]

Lights are suppose to be glass cannons but are destoryed dps wise by a heavy they cant melt a heavy or medium fast enough glitch gernade radius is way to small to be worth it.
Its why everyone and their mom is playing double heavy with shields and shotties and a medium because heal and insta rez

[hoary scaffold]

Woooo

[fallow oasis]

pistol received a huge nerf on release, the xp-54 (mp5) is good but by no means carries the class, and the sniper is fucking ass, light desperately needs a buff to be usable in ranked

[daring salmon]

just cap them, 1 light per team, anytime im with a team of lights, they run off and die and I end up having to clean up after them.

[wide summit]

what do you think will happen if the shotgun is made weaker? the heavy will not have fast enough TTK with it and will die in most fights unless its a light class. because the shot reload delay.

[scenic field]

This game crashes so hard that Discord crashes as well, and not just once

[crystal imp]

Lewisgun does 4 more damage per shot, is more accurate, has less recoil, and can headshot at a further range.

Grenade launcher for medium does explode on impact, and the one for heavy explodes after a bounce. It also explodes on direct impact if you hit an enemy player.

[wintry axle]

Good afternoon, I haven't received an award for the last beta test, who should I contact for help?

[slim sapphire]

I’m 100% agree, I just disagree with the guy asking for RPG on light tho, I’m not complaining about light’s health or anything else 😅😅 @gleaming siren @tropic finch

Btw I agree there should be a class cap each game, especially in Ranked @daring salmon

[dire matrix]

MINES ARE SO BAD ONLY 1 PER PLAYER PLS

[clever haven]

Embark, can you separate rank based on platform? Separate between console and PC. MnK players don't want to worry about how strong aim assist is, or how strong it'll become. So rank should be separated based on platform. Exclusively, ranked mode should be a mode with crossplay off at all times, and with two separate leaderboards.

[hollow mango]

would love global text chat on pc (when crossplay is disabled)

[mighty nova]

Thanks guys 👍😁

[earnest stump]

time to kill

[strong wave]

what would u want instead then from winning touenaments?

[quick coyote]

defi needs to be removed or heavily nerfed

[worldly nymph]

in game announcer's are ai generated so let premades create their own team names when loading into a game so the AI can announce them. Would make things more unique

[tropic finch]

Ok makes sense on the rpg. Disagree on cap. You’d create really stale game play.

[elder spear]

Add some ginger hair options please... and curly

[clever heath]

is that why people love rocket league blueprints and the overwatch 2 store so much?

[steel oriole]

oh yea let them announce our Kool Kids Klub

[keen steppe]

Lights should get faster regenration out of combat to improve the harass-playstyle. Maybe even improve their damage across the board a tiny amount if the regen buff isnt enough and slightly tweak the invis so it doesnt overshadow the other two abilities

Nerf heavies shotgun damage or rate of fire (maybe even both), slower travel time for rpg so its not a insta-delete button

After getting resurrected by defib you should not have invulnerability, maybe even limit defib uses per life to 1 or 2 at most, since its by far the strongest ability in the game, especially if you run more than one medium (getting defibed shouldnt reset the amount of uses only regular respawn should)
or
make it so defib isnt instant but just significantly shortens the revive-time. So it plays the defib animation which should take half the normal amount of time for a revive.

[wide summit]

The heavy shotgun will be made useless, i can already call it. And then ppl will want the lewis gun nerfed and the rpg nerfed and then heavy class is bascially not fun to play anymore because you will just die.

[alpine wren]

The trick is that the intermediate reload animation should be slightly lengthened, or else the intermediate reload animation should only be able to kill a light one, but the intermediate reload animation should be forced for medium and large ones.

[daring salmon]

hey embark, my wife was cheating on me, will she get banned?

[slim sapphire]

You’re not obligated to do a 1-1-1 class cap, but just, disable the possibility to 3(L)-0-0, you know what I mean ? 😌
2-1-0 or 2-0-1 can be nice if the lights are good, but you know like me that people playing light are oftenly bad, just spam light to get invis and try to kill people and just die cringely/stupidly then come in this discord to complain about others classes destroying them 😅😂 BTW, let’s move to another chat if u wanna continue to discuss about it ✌🏼

[quick coyote]

@quick coyote ⚠️

[turbid crystal]

buff it

[sacred junco]

all the things youve said have to be bait lmfao

[random latch]

💀

[keen steppe]

well if they make it useless they should buff it again. I want it in a balanced state and not made useless. But as it is right now, I believe it to be overtuned compared to the other guns in the game

[spring storm]

id like if controller players could bind their gadgets to specific buttons rather than having to pull out the equipment wherl

[steel oriole]

BUT who modelled the gyat 🤔 that's the real question

[elder spear]

controller isn't keybindable? that kinda sucks. I have my gadgets bound to mouse buttons and stuff

[wide summit]

I dont know what you are wanting, ive died many times because i have to reload the shotgun. it means if you can dodge my shots im basically screwed. Now what will happen if its nerfed? it will be a bad idea to use the weapon just like the flamethrower. Its not bait, heavy is my main class and i remember how I die and what is going on when I die on my end. Reloading or missing shots.

[pearl mica]

Are they developers going to look at the double C4-explosive barrel? It's way too strong right now

[signal vigil]

cloak needs a cooldown after using it or getting shot out of it

[tough sphinx]

didnt no blud was 🤓🥼☝️

[haughty trellis]

Loving the game but the battle pass progression is too slow! Embark probably has other priorities but I would like to see this tweaked this season or next one at the latest because it feels like a huge time commitment not many people have

[soft sable]

Would love to see them add assisted suicide kills. The amount of times I've had a kill robbed because someone fell off a ledge or blew themselves up in unbelievable

[unreal saddle]

remove barrel c4 meta its breaking the game completly in comp , there is no fun gunfights it just who gets the barrel c4 dubble kill first wins. also make rpg do max 50 dmg or so its wayyy to broken

remove shotguns out of the game => inpossible to balance and is hella OP right now

gunfights are absolute dogshit now that everyone is doing this broken heave meta with c4 on barrels and rpg + shotgun and shield

gunfights where amazing in beta.

how to destroy the c4 meta? please make it not be able to stick to a barrel only to walls or floors ez

[undone glacier]

Why does this game block the GPU at 65 degrees ? poor performance comes from

[oak acorn]

can u split ASIA to some of regions? too much China Cheaters... u can split to SEA, JP+KR,and China server, Dont allow any high ping also.. lock that China region for better gaming experience...

[exotic bough]

Game full of cheaters actually

[wide summit]

remove shotguns? I love how ppl want shotguns to literally not be shotguns. I saw thie exact same thing happen in COD and then the guns were made useless so then everyone uses the same weapons. Why have pistols? knives? hammers? swords? rpgs? grenade launchers? The medium shotgun is prolly the most balanced shotgun, a light class shotgun needs to kill fast otherwise they are dead because they are so close to the enemy. The heavies could use a power tweak but it needs another change to make it still viable if it is made weaker.

[keen pumice]

Awe awesome launch i did not have any issues what so ever, the only issue is we from south africa, we have to play europe, and our ping to europe is about 250, we really need south african server tomalso enjoy the game to the fullest like others, we can see the lag problem and we get killed behind the walls and stuff, please look into it, cape town or johannesburg server will work please…. Thanks again for wonderful game, it also keeps my wife busy…

[tropic finch]

I still don’t think limiting people is the right move. Each class should have something unique that provides benefit. If people are only picking a single class, then the other classes need better abilities, counter plays, or buffs on certain items.

[sacred junco]

a light can die to two of those shotguns shots from mid range

[turbid crystal]

let it stick to chairs and plants and stuff because getting a kill with an exploding plant is pretty funny

[elder spear]

i think most of the complaints about the meta are a skill issue, but it is true that light is slightly underpowered (best comp seems to be MHH or MMH), the only real suggestion I would make is reducing the damage of explosive mines and RPG to 145, otherwise it is way too cheap to get one shot by a AOE explosion

[manic aspen]

OPTIMIZE THE GAME, YOU CANT JUST LAUNCH A FPS GAME IN WHICH 85% OF STEAM PLAYERS CANT GET 80+ FPS
YOU GUYS SHOULD REALLY LEARN HOW TO READ

[wide summit]

a light class can die to any gun from mid range in a matter of seconds. This is why light class has speed / cloak / grapple / dash. light class could maybe use more health but then you are giving the class with the highest DPS more health and all those extra evasion abilities.

[clever heath]

get a better PC

[pearl mica]

Heavy has too much damage output and survivability right now. 180 damage RPG, double C4, 2 Shields and Semi-Auto shotgun. It's need to lose some damage output.

[neon lagoon]

the games fine for me

[exotic bough]

Bye, I left, so many cheaters, heavy are really overpowered (2 shields + RPG + shotgun), 160 betas for heavy overpowered class ! really nice

[unreal saddle]

you clearly havent played any comp games

[sacred junco]

2nd highest dps heavys kit is fucking busted

[tame sparrow]

There are tons of hackers start to spawn in the game, i think you should take some serious actions cuz it can kill the game so fast. It really annoys me when 1 heavy guy stand on the rooftop and 3-4 bullets to each person without any missing to their head and killing the whole map. Also it cause our rank to get decrease seriously <@&1012034066876473384>

[wide summit]

well that is one way to make heavies go away, just make them really weak, slow and easy to kill. @tame sparrow they literally made a post about it this morning.

[cyan geyser]

have the fixed UE5 crashing yet?

[elder spear]

Nothing should do more than 140 damage in a single hit, except some melee secondaries perhaps

[toxic tulip]

So many hackers

[languid pendant]

can we get some kinda accessibility option, i am deaf and die constantly to mines a friend told me they’re very obvious with sound however i am entirely deaf and cannot hear them. i realise i could be more visually aware but in the intensity of battle it’s hard to focus on the ground

[sullen thorn]

( https://i.ibb.co/bPQv7Bj/125.png ) Well done, Embark team! Another great ranked game lost due to skill issues, and not because you outright refuse to keep them on their own server. <@&1012034066876473384>

[elfin swallow]

I wish I could place jump pads a little further away, so I can place them while I’m sprinting and do a slide jump without having to stop and back up to slide into. Right now you don’t have enough room to do a full slide into the jump pad if you put it down in front of you while sprinting

[visual prawn]

Yeah this would be nice to have

[wide summit]

why would a melee weapon do more damage THAN AN EXPLOSION??????

[untold blaze]

Nerf this class. Nerf that gun. Buff this grenade. Delete this charge attack. All I'm hearing is a lot of people wanting things adjusted so they can be top dog easily rather than mastering the game. This isn't Burger King. lol

[elder spear]

it's not about logic, it's about balance. Any bullet to the head should instakill if we're doing realism. an explosion takes less skill to land since it's AOE, whereas melee weapons are quite difficult to use

[sacred junco]

its just heavy lmfao @paper void do you understand what happens when you dont deal with cheaters

[paper void]

i see why you mad and greatly agree with you, but like.. stfu, your complaining will do no good and you sound like a complete ass, embark is working there asses off and you just gotta disrespect them like that, and before you start whining that "its not that hard of a problem to fix" all i have to say is then go do yourself, make your own game, fix all the problems, and listen to dumb fucks like yourself nit-pick the every little thing.

[sullen thorn]

bro you dont just release a game at a global stage, hype the s out of it for $$$ and then booom 学中文 snipes you with a revolver from 500m while looking the other way... if you think im being an a$$ then ok, play with the cheaters, see where the game goes in a few months

[quick coyote]

The first change I would like to see would be creating a more effective feedback submission method. Only having a Discord Channel makes me think we are just being given a place to yell into the void. At the very least changing to a Discord forum channel would make much more sense.

[wanton root]

Reduce mine damage for lightweights I see it last second and before I know I'm dead

Ranked is cheater heaven so avoiding it

Tournaments is full of meta

Quick play full of bots

Pls hlp

[exotic bough]

Ah and the C4 on stuff strat, nerf it cause it's impossible to counter it

[wide summit]

oh right! light and medium are just perfect classes! each class has to have situations it has an advantage in. What I see is ppl want heavy class made bascially pointless. We should just play medium instead, why not give them the shield items and C4 then remove the heavy @wanton root Why would they make light take less damage compared to other classes for mines? its a mine, you can see it. All I can see really is ppl want the have the heavy class removed, snipers removed, shotguns removed, and mines removed. Also remove the mechanics that make this game more fun. Sounds like a boring game. Next were gonna nerf the goo gun too

[naive sandal]

RANKED really needs to be divided by Solo only for all or only full stacks vs full stacks

[sacred junco]

@exotic bough the only way to counter is light dash @wide summit heavy is the class that stomps everything thats the issue

[paper void]

@sacred junco there actively working on it
@lucid gyro im aware of the problem, im not slow
@sullen thorn i clearly stated that your complaints are valid and warranted, i was addressing your tone towards the devs , just a little respect for the people working on this game is all
im not defending the state of the game, just calling @sullen thorn for being rude as hell

[sullen thorn]

yeah bro, calling me a dumb fuck is surely helping, the f is wrong with you? what planet are you on?

[eternal gust]

i want deathmatch

[wide summit]

so heavies never die? I can kill them but you cant? Use your tools. If a light class runs up to heavy face to face expect to die, they are the exact opposites of a light class. You can throw the glitch nade, fire nades, attack and move ETC. I dont see how you nerf every part of the heavy and the class still being used.

[sacred junco]

Oh yeah I kill them but when they have an rpg or a fucking c4 barrel or dome shield in their hand I can't do jack shit cause I'm shitting on their lights and mediums and have cds from it

[elfin swallow]

If heavy grenade launcher is going to be bounce shots and not explode on impact it should at least have controlled detonation, like you hold down the trigger to shoot and when you release the trigger it explodes where it is in the air.

[paper void]

your mad someone called you out for being a rude dickhead and turned to insults?
you are a child my friend, and there's no point for me to keep feeding you attention.

also to the people watching this, he insulted me in dms and blocked me

[quick coyote]

Some feedback ideas:
Make canisters easier to detonate. When ever I see an enemy standing near or holding a canister my instinct is to try and shoot the canister but they can take a lot of damage without detonating and I believe this should be a more effective strategy. Also it would be good if they detonated faster, once hit and thrown, the game is too fast paced for them to have such a long detonation time.
Some of the outfits in the battle pass, like the wedding dress and ballerina only really make sense on a female character, therefor I believe they would be better suited as store items, and future battle passes should contain outfits that work for both body types.
Also the battle passes should be available to buy and progress permanently, like Halo Infinite
I would also like to ability to text chat with my team (unless this is an existing feature that I have missed?) as well as chat with enemy.

[exotic bough]

You're not objective, that's real, heavies are to strongs, everybody tells it. You love the class we have understood but it's so strong and versatile. We don't speak of suppress everything that make the game special but the game need balancing.

[wide summit]

its a team game... not solo lord of war. You clearly wanna kill a whole time alone. @elfin swallow agreed, that is the one heavy weapon along with the hammer i refuse to use. @exotic bough he literally just said i killed their whole team and then I die to the heavy, where the hell is the rest of his team? Again you wanna make all those nerfs then the speed of the heavy needs to be buffed, things can just be made weaker and still slow. people want this game to be like Cod or apex and remove waht makes it unique.

[untold field]

healing beam every game is lame some diversity in comps would be nice. Would also be cool to make light have more useful utility for the team so that dps nerfs would make more sense.

[quick coyote]

Defi needs to be removed and explosives cannot be put on anything carriable. Game is becoming stupider every day

[sacred junco]

Yes because I clearly said I run in the middle of everything and don't use any of my util to get rid of a healing beam and try to catch another by himself trying to flank unless there's two mediums unless I get them both with glitch grenade im fucked unless I run shotgun but you know it's kind of a gamble cause I can't really switch my weapons at the first round @manic aspen no because a nerf to him would apparently make him unusable

[proven pelican]

just got here but toohat is right in whatever you guys are arguing about because i like his pfp more

[manic aspen]

NAH 2 c4 barrel needs a nerf tho,

ALSO OPTIMIZE THE FUCKING GAME
ryzen 6800h and rtx 3060 laptop 16gb ram

80 fps, massive fps drops to 50 fps at the most crucial moments (usually during destruction)

[paper void]

if you dont mind me asking what specs are your pc
and explain what problem you are haveing

[verbal wadi]

What medium specials could be added to tale over healing beam?

[wide summit]

something that makes heavy weaker

[quick coyote]

I get kicked by the server when I click too fast when shooting with the V9S...

[orchid abyss]

Wow that’s so clever, stun gun for Mediums would be really nice ngl. And of course, needs a tone down but not in a way that rend this utility useless, this is the last thing I want.
Medium healing beam feels really weak, and I’m not even suggesting a healing buff but a way to get some sustain while not being able to defend myself. To balance this out, players should not be able to pick the same Specialization in the same team, meaning that could only be 1 Healing Beam Medium player per team. (I was expecting this to be implemented after open beta, but it didn’t). This balance decision is game changer and opens the possibility to add more Specializations per build while removing unfair and annoying to deal combos. (For ex. triple heal, triple camo, etc.). Obviously if this goes through some Specialization would need a buff, but maybe they already explored / play tested this idea. Not sure.
About the defib, maybe a CD increase so players use them for intense team fights instead, but I still feel like it doesn’t need a change (you respawn half hp, you have to reload and your teammate cannot defend himself while trying to use it on you), I’m not asking for an insane time reduction, I don’t want to replace or nerf the Defib. I just want to further define all builds nature, characteristics and roles.

Thanks for reading 🥹

[faint vale]

Change the cashout so that you get the % of the money that you claimed

[north fox]

In no way should Light have a shotgun. I've been playing Sombra as my one-trick for seven years now. The point of her design is to surprise you but not to make it so that you can't fight back. This is why they gave her an SMG to extend her time to kill (TTK).

That same logic should apply to invis

[quick coyote]

Oooh nice. Very nice indeed. This would be a good idea

[boreal lotus]

why is the voice chat so bad? no proxy chat either, even after u kill them (like on halo 3). what was the point of releasing the game half cooked. other than some trash ass nurfs, nothing has changed from the beta

[violet field]

i think it would be a really nice to give the medium class a stim shot to heal themself instantly

[paper void]

ohhhh that would be cool
but it might poorly effect the outcome and flow of the game

[wide summit]

we all know why prox chat is no longer used in games really.

[shy axle]

There is a HUGE problem with cheaters, there is tons of them:
https://i.imgur.com/b4TEX4s.mp4 - cheater is shooting through the mesh shield

https://i.imgur.com/wdvu0bI.mp4 - cheater is shooting across the map through the trees etc. and shooting me and my team 2 sec after we respawned...

2 games with cheaters

[upbeat ore]

Limit shotguns range

[gleaming siren]

join finals discord
see launch feedback channel
bitch and moan while avoiding any real problem that they can try to fix
why dont the devs listen to my ideas

[dusk forge]

nice game guys, thanks for giving us this highlight at the end of the year ❤️

[sacred junco]

Not at all to many people winning last fights right when it's about to finish and win it would make people get kills for more money

[quick coyote]

People so toxic about a great game, which is FREE ffs

[manic aspen]

OPTIMIZE THE GAME

[chilly flicker]

L PC

[wide summit]

As cheats infest The Finals, devs say a bug stopped them from "banning cheaters efficiently," but now they're "re-upping anti-cheat measures" https://www.gamesradar.com/as-cheats-infest-the-finals-devs-say-a-bug-stopped-them-from-banning-cheaters-efficiently-but-now-theyre-re-upping-anti-cheat-measures&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=oxm/&utm_campaign=socialflow-oxm/ @quick coyote it def needs more range.

[small karma]

RE: Healing beam feels weak
I agree that it would be nice to limit heal beams to only one per team... but I'm worried about your teammate having ONLY the heal beam unlocked. What happens then? They get no spec for the round? 😅 Maybe... diminishing return per med beam on your team? That way they're never overpowered, and you can still use it / have it by default.

RE: Defib
It was already nerfed pretty severely from OB to Post Launch. The CD on it is a lot higher than it used to be (it felt like 10s cooldown in OB, now feels closer to 20-25 if not more, TL;DR : It got a significant nerf.). My suggestion above could also apply. The more you stack these very VERY strong survival/sustain mechanics, the less you get in return. Just to chuck random numbers in the air, +25% CD on Defib. for each player in a team. So if you have only one, it's on default cooldown, two it's 25% longer, three it's 50% longer.

Thanks for reading 🥹
Anytime! Honest critical feedback is welcome, and I want folks to speak up and propose stuff, not just gripe and whine, so I'll always give a bit of my time to reply and move the discussion along!

[untold blaze]

But but but! We need it to be toxic VC and TC like in COD! lol He demands he be called every name in the book and be told to "git gud" while some kids has Mo Bamba blaring in the background. lmao

[paper void]

bro, check dms, im trying to help you out

[storm oriole]

add text chat, i really want to be able to communicate with the other teams 😊

[silent berry]

Oh boy, better not @crude star More like warcrimes once a light gets to someone

[crude star]

People would end up making truces

[quick coyote]

💀 tbh i would say its better there is no all chat in the game , it creates unecessary toxicity

[gleaming siren]

overtime when the cashout is being captured while timer ends?
might be bad idea, but maybe could be intneresting in some modes

[gleaming ice]

day 7 of begging for a shotgun nerf

[karmic kettle]

anyone else having random stutters

[sacred junco]

It just optimization too many rooms best thing to do is turn on motion blur and view distance low also when will we get ranked coin grab

[shut spire]

(self) device issue tbh, since my spec is same but 120fps +

[wide summit]

if you are on PC lower your graphics, change upscaler ETC. My game was crashing and blue screen of death multiple times a night after the first patch until i lowered my graphics and im on a 4070ti / 3900x / 64 gb of ram. Just change dynamic lighting to static will help a lot

[chilly flicker]

when someone kills you, it should have an ai look them up and write a paragraph about all the things going wrong in their life to make you feel better about it 🙂

[spice charm]

why would someone play anything other than heavy?

[manic aspen]

doesn't change the fact that game is poorly optimized and needs more optimization

[dire skiff]

new gpu

[unborn kraken]

6700xt and i79700k i get shit fps too

[modern flare]

why all chinesee people hacking

[vivid kraken]

that's kinda odd, i have a 1080 ti and 6700k and i have "playable" fps. not 100+ but around 50-80 i'd say and it works well for me

[shut spire]

u guys need to check ur device tbh, and check background task/app. telling devs to optimize when u playing with so many background task is a meh

oh yeah my cpu is lower than @manic aspen so idk what issue he/she get

[rustic scarab]

how is this even fair to get for ranked tournament?

[sacred junco]

you have a 4070 and still have issues? @spice charm its not racist if its true its always QQ1929248189:2551

[spice charm]

shut up bigot racist @sacred junco so now numbers are Chinese??? shut up racist

[warped dagger]

brooo i still can't play i still can't queue into games it cick me

[manic aspen]

no way you are getting 120+ fps in middle of a fight, you are capping

[small karma]

This seemingly-innocuous suggestion I WHOLEHEARTEDLY support!

As someone who played OB Cash Out, lost the point in the last 10 seconds and got NOTHING for my hard work and never played it again, I was happy to see some sort of reward in Post Launch CO... but it's chump change. It's barely anything. You get like $500-1500 or something when you hold it for a minute and it gets stolen.. the rewards are not proportional.

Extra suggestion / going in more depth / riffing on your idea (All credits to you! Heh, get it, credits because Cash Out 😏) :

2 - Every 10s held gives your team $1000, for a total of $12 000 if you held it all the way.
3 - First to $24 000 wins (instead of first to $20 000).```

To spice up / make the box-carrying part of the game more fun, give a team a reward for starting the countdown. $1000 or so. Just a little SOMETHING for risking your life carrying it ALL THE WAY to the cashout point with the whole map looking at you hungrily and/or chasing you!

[nocturne mason]

Yo I can't get into the game it says "your login attempt failed" anyone know how to fix it?

[modern flare]

? Not racist just asking

[untold blaze]

He can. People don't realize that you can be bottlenecked multiple ways. There is cpu bound, gpu, ram, power, poor game optimization, bad wifi, and on and on. It's not a one shoe fits all thing.

[faint vale]

yeah im so tired of holding for 99% and getting so many kills/team wipes just to lose the last 10 seconds

[wide summit]

i was until i lowered / changed my settings to high etc. Some game update caused some issues for sure

[shut spire]

shut up cheater supporter. Its indeed a fact that most chinese player is cheater not all but most. so its not racist when it is a fact.

[prime summit]

Steamdeck support when?

[sacred junco]

i know your name is garfield after all lol

[untold field]

buff my teammates

[manic aspen]

most chinese are cheaters ≠ most cheaters are chinese
learn the difference

[normal steeple]

youre capping man, if you have the correct settings u should be getting a lot more

if not then thats crazy or u have a 4k monitor

if itd actually that bad then im gonna agree with all the guys screaming for optimization

[crystal imp]

<@&1012034066876473384> Racism levels getting out of control over here

[astral jewel]

Fire will straight up not be touching me and I'll still catch fire.

[spice charm]

im just fucking with you i also hate them

[vivid kraken]

i would send a screenshot of my settings but im not allowed apparently

[wide summit]

sounds like real fire

[teal night]

any1 know how i can customise my crosshair and get rid of the outer lines?

[untold blaze]

No they don't want voice chat because they don't want to hear that racist/prejudice vile garbage you just puked into this chat. Always funny to watch people run smack into the point and still not get it.

[normal steeple]

Use your monitors built in crosshair cause software corsshairs will get u banned and the game one is bad as ****

[smoky gust]

the mines should only activate when physically touched
not on proximity

otherwise you get moments where you think you can just slip by but die anyways because you could not have know how big the trigger radius actually is

[small karma]

Folks and yolks... Could we please remain civil and avoid racism, bigotry and attacking one-another?

It's Discord 101. Hell, it's Human Discourse 101.

Don't resort to insults and yelling at one-another, take a breather, log out for a while, go out and calm down before you reply. Act respectably and you'll earn people's respect. Don't stoop to the lowest of lows. Cool it a bit, please.

CMs, I know this place is essentially a "#TheFinalsLaunchRantVoidRoom", but a bit of moderation to avoid egregious racism/bigotry is welcome!

@crystal imp I was on slowmode and could not ping the CMs to intervene. 😭 Thanks!

[exotic cedar]

It doesn't matter what the radius is, get rid of the one shot

[manic aspen]

Optimize the game pls ty

[tawny maple]

m'y game crashes every 5 minutes and i have 4070...

[wide summit]

lower your graphics, change lighting to static.

[quick coyote]

Cheaters, HMM meta, dying instantly to explosives attached to carriables on any class, Heavy with 1600 hp, Medium spamming defi, fps drops and stutters. I’ve been waiting for this game for long but the love is rapidly fading away

[crude comet]

heavy

[quick coyote]

Is it just me or dose anyone else think the spawn time is slightly to long i feel like im on the death screen forever

[small karma]

Have you seen my suggestion for them?

TL;DR : Mines "click" when you step on them, and if you step OFF they blow up. Same damage they have, but if your reaction time is on point and you FREEZE, you can look down and disarm. Mine's owner gets a "Mine disarmed!" warning.

Thoughts?

[sacred junco]

"theres nothing wrong with heavy mad cause bad"

[heady crypt]

slows the game down.

[odd timber]

Please stop the CHEATERS !!

[dusty sky]

fix false bans

[small karma]

Only if you're willingly stepping on mines, in any other case you'll be zooming by and the result will be the same as the current mines, you just get SOME sense of "I could've done SOMETHING to prevent this, my bad, GG go next" instead of just "REE THE MINES INSTAKILL ME I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING REE".

In all other scenarios aside from the "I know there's a mine, I'll slowly walk over it and disarm it" tacticool, slow-paced minded gamer moment, you'd just run past, hear a click, look down, press your "pick up throwable" button (F by default?) and go on your way to push the OBJ or something.

Optional fun thing; make the disarmed mine actually throwable just for laughs, like a fake flash into a room and then you move in or something 😂

[smoky gust]

the radius will always matter, because someone can also be already damaged and then have my named issue

but i do agree, being 1 shot is bad and shouldn't happen like this

@small karma yes i have seen your suggestion and i think it would be a step in the right direction

however, with how fast players move, there is a high chance most players wouldn't have the time to react, so it might not end up doing a lot
and even if they manage to freeze, if the other person is watching they are as good as dead since they can at most try to crouch and uncrouch

we can probably expand on this idea a bit but im not quit sure it would work if it was exactly like this

[half vector]

Are you guys working on providing keyboard and mouse support for ps5 by any chance?

[quick coyote]

I wonder what the masterminds at embark are doing in the meantime. We have 3 classes and they fuck up this badly. I wonder what they would do in a hero shooter. Oh i almost forgot the dome. +600hp, 2200hp total. Very balanced. I don’t play L that much but during OB a lot of players complained about that class, wrongly imo, and it got nerfed to the ground. Heavy is still untouched.

[worn mulch]

This crap performance couldnt be related to abusing DLSS as pretty much the only mean you relied on for any optimization whatso ever right?

[small karma]

Could just let go of the finnicky / gimmicky "disarm" solution, keep the "must step directly on it to click and then off to BOOM", but instead of insta-killing you (talking about the High Explosive trap, here, ofc!), it would do 50 damage and PUSH you further.

It would delay you without just.. nuking a Light out of existence. 😅 If you're low enough to die to it, too bad. I mean at that point play safer / have better awareness when you're on low health, gas/fire traps have the same lethality at that point.

[severe thunder]

Can you please upgrade the damage on melee weapons just a bit, you should not hit someone on the back with a melee weapon and have them turn around and blow you away and them have just a sliver of health left.

[brazen sparrow]

not sure what happened really, but after getting revived, my primary fired simply didn't work, like the game didn't reginseter that I pressed the button

[sour citrus]

The Skateboard upper back cosmetic needs a shoulder strap. It looks awful like it is now, just floating around the character's back. It also needs proper kingpin and bushings on the trucks.

[exotic cedar]

I don't think the disarm thing would fix anything. The one shot is the problem. U don't deserve to be one-shot by a 0 skill ability. Like my 6y old nephew knows where to place mines in video games he plays.

Imagine junkrat trap in Overwatch one shotting u

[gritty kraken]

Mouse and keyboard for ps5???

[crystal imp]

I genuinely think that if explosive mines dealt 50, no one would use them.

A lot of this is the downside of having 3 classes with wildly different health values, but you need the damage to stay relevant against other classes too.

Lights will probably always be oneshot by quite a few things. IMO it's likely just how the game is designed and it's up to us to adapt around it. Right now I'm mashing light with the M11 to just get good and try to beat the things that people complain about.

[glass fjord]

Faster store updates dawg......

[worn mulch]

I think that this game sets a dreading precedent for what AI image generation will mean for games, it should not be using for skipping optimizations during development (DLSS = AI)

[sacred junco]

last thing we need

[vivid kraken]

could you give a quick summary on that? i had no idea about ai being used

[spice charm]

what would you like to do? whats wrong with h h m meta?

[hidden goblet]

Dont allow c4 to be attached to carriables so they cannot 1 shot multiple people

[median dawn]

16 hours and ive never seen a cheater - just cus someone is better than you does not mean hacks. Fps drops and stutters? might be time to upgrade your potato.

[quick coyote]

Remove defi, shield with 600hp instead of 1250.
@median dawn no time to waste with idiots, sorry

[exotic cedar]

no one would use them.
Oh no...nobody would use mines, how horrible that would be 😅
I say let the garbage gadgets that slow the game down and require no skill be underused. I don't see a problem.

If you want you can give them debuffs, damage doesn't have to be 50, it can even be 125 for all I care. I just don't like opening a door at random and being one-shot. Or chasing someone low-HP and he just drops a mine right as he turns a corner. It's stupid.

[vivid kraken]

i have over 50 hours and seen plenty of cheaters

[gritty kraken]

Is there any info on when and if they will release mouse and keyboard for ps5???

[spice edge]

wtf is up w this 0004 ban

[crystal imp]

Play more careful then, and you'll die to mines less. You're describing perfectly acceptable situations where you failed to listen for mines, or failed to consider what the opponent might do.

The game is MEANT to be a slower paced FPS with an emphasis on teamwork, creative use of utilities, and shaping the arena to benefit you.

[sour citrus]

PSA: The Finals is not TDM

[upbeat zinc]

I love the fact my turret and gas mines clap them yeekies

[desert summit]

The heavy’s shot gun needs a nerf. This Mfer should not be able to throw up a mesh shield and stare at me well he pushes me and then drops the shield and 2 shots me from 25 feet away. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[pine rose]

remove defi xdd aint no way

[sweet surge]

nice im running into cheaters every ranked game now sweet anti cheat

[shy axle]

yup, rankeds are unplayable.

[mental slate]

hey...this may have been answered but my contestants are entirely invisible and I cannot find a server or get into practice range...any fixes on this? news?

[small karma]

Fair, limiting the damage to non-1shot range for lights could just be enough to alleviate this. What about 125? Disarm was a gimmick I found neat, but the radius being point-blank / "step on it to trigger" + 125 dmg would be a huge alignment for them.

@crystal imp

I genuinely think that if explosive mines dealt 50, no one would use them.

A lot of this is the downside of having 3 classes with wildly different health values, but you need the damage to stay relevant against other classes too.

Lights will probably always be oneshot by quite a few things. IMO it's likely just how the game is designed and it's up to us to adapt around it. Right now I'm mashing light with the M11 to just get good and try to beat the things that people complain about.
Fair point about the damage value, I'm notoriously bad with on-the-fly numbers, I usually just yeet a number to make a point / a rough draft of an idea.

Maybe 125 DMG? That way it still meeeeeeeesses you UP as a light, but doesn't one-shot. Still a super strong deterrent... and if you teamplay and stack fire + expl mines.. the fire takes care of the 25 hp left. 🤭

+1 to adapting, and also you should try playing my beloved, the LH1 💜 it works very effectively as a light weapon that counters up-close stuff folks might hate. Tap heads and it's got insane DPS.

[quick coyote]

The stupidest gadget in the game. Anti-fun and overpowered combined with beam. Make it usable twice per game if they want to keep it. In any other game that kind of stuff is super rare, just so you know

[tawny junco]

Adjusting voice chat doesn’t do anything. People are so loud it hurts my ears and I cant turn them down

[vivid kraken]

idk will i get banned if i say i enjoy the game as it is even though it's obviously far from perfect?

[exotic cedar]

The game is MEANT to be a slower paced
The Light class isn't meant to be slower paced. I don't mind the mines when I play heavy. You're playing a class most likely to step on mines because you're going fast, and is also the one who gets one shot due to HP.

I don't know what you mean by "failed to listen for mines", I'm not walking at a turtles pace to every door I come across, I'm sprinting. You don't even have time to process the little beeps they make, especially when it's on the other side of the door where noise is almost unrecognizable.

You say it's meant to be played slow, but I don't see this reflected anywhere, not on a single diamond rank players stream. I play Overwatch, and it's definitely faster than OW. Yet OW doesn't have an absurd one shot like a mine, with a very low cd. Mind you, it would be less annoying there, because OW doesn't even have doors, and the characters move slower making them more likely to see it.

[quaint ember]

Anyone else getting stutters today?

[shy axle]

Me got some.

[small karma]

😅 I hate being the devil's advocate here but it's not rare in Battlefield.. Battlebit (okay it's pretty much DIY Battlefield lol), Overwatch, Squad, Hell Let Loose and I'm sure I'm missing quite a couple..

Don't get me wrong! The gadget IS an INSANELY powerful one, and it has no contest on that front whatsoever. It's very problematic, but it can be balanced. Glitch negates it's use, the CD is fairly high (and could be raised if need be! or given charges per life - not per game, please, let's be logical and progress step-by-step instead of nuking it), it's got a decent chargeup, needs point-blank range (so you can acid/flame a body to prevent it).

It's got counterplay. It's problematic, but not infallible!

[smoky gust]

the push effect sounds fun but it may end up being gimmiky
and with it only dealing 50 damage, it would feel like the ghost of a kill gadget that doesn't succeed much at killing

so i had a different idea

the mines are all very useful on the cashout, both pyro and gas both make use of an aoe damage over time effect and thus deny others from cashing out while their effects persist
(unless they can tank it, have a healer or counter)
and medium doesn't have any options to destroy walls yet (besides the grenade launcher which makes your playstyle dependent on it)

so what if we just make it deal low damage to players but HUGE damage to buildings
(if planted upright) it would destroy the ceiling, the floor its placed on and the floor below it
(if placed sideways) it would basically be a breach charge with way higher range (but little spread sideways) (i don't use mines, if they don't explode if the user shot it, it would need to be changed for this item)

that way it would deny anyone from stealing the cashout until its done falling, making it somewhat in line with the other mines, while giving medium a way to easily breach walls (at the cost of only being able to carry 1 and having a long cooldown)

because a player walking on will be dropped a floor and is now in lowground and has to fight upwards, its still useable against other players without nuking them out of existance
and even without that last point, the confusion it can create on a cashout might already be worth it

(done now, thank you for the patience)

[brazen moss]

On god loving the devs and i think its an amazing idea to have discord as the primary community communication tool its easily accessible to everyone and allows for a more community based way of talking to use and us talking to the devs great game great start and on god absolutely obsessed with the game

[swift horizon]

motion sensors not counting towards detect opponent contract, why? it did before

[sacred junco]

hell yeah but holy shit this thing is unbalanced lmfao

[glass fjord]

But thats where all the fun is 😦

[ionic crescent]

balancing and sbmm are going to ruin this game, I dont want to run meta builds in nonranked modes to be able to compete. Pathetic

[hollow shoal]

PLEASE fixed ranked matches. Im in bronze 1 rn, just started playing ranked last night. Todays matches have been awful. Saw a cracked team with TTV in names and pulled up their streams. They are close to top 10 on boards and yet im getting in matches with them. What is the point of ranks if it means nothing and everyone is in the same lobbies? How are you expected to work your way up and plateau off at your skill level if you are thrown in with people that high up right from the start? Seriously wild. I was thinking people just arent ranked where they should be yet and thats why the matches are rough but nope, literally playing against the top players while in bronze.

@desert summit let me clarify, one of the players in that last match is currently in diamond, ranked #8 in the world. Theres no reason they are being put in bronze lobbies lol

[silver grove]

I have a 4070ti

[crystal imp]

You don't have to be moving at a turtle's pace to hear the mines. You just have to be paying attention, staying alert, and considering things like "doors are common places for mines to be". If that means stopping for half of a second before opening a door that's very likely to have a mine and waiting to hear even a single beep, then you should do that.

And yeah, I do think it's meant to be played slow. You have all kinds of destruction mechanics, heal beam, defib, shields... You have to approach things thoughfully in this game, do what's correct in the scenario rather than just trying to run fast and click on heads.

The better you get at the game, the less time you have to dedicate to processing what's the correct option, so the game will naturally speed up at higher levels.

[desert summit]

I think my theory is a lot of casual players haven’t unlocked ranked yet so every skill level is in bronze

[tough elm]

ok. if i get revived, PLEASE AUTOMATICALLY RELOAD MY WEAPON

[small karma]

1000% for this change. Absolutely for it. Wholeheartedly support it. Like it. Love it. Want it!

Taking that BIG impact, and swapping what it impacts would be a wonderful way to keep it's oomph without keeping the problem of it one-shotting folks in a fast-paced game and being used as one-shot cross-map gastank nukes.

Wonderful change, amazing idea, Embark, pls implement!

Edit : After reading the change, add another 1000% support please.

It sounds SICK, IMPACTFUL and GRANDIOSE to use. A real The Finals Moment™️ generator!

[exotic cedar]

I just think the argument that this game is meant to be slowly played is a load of balloney. You don't have time to be slow when there's only time for like 2 teamfights tops to steal a cashout before it's banked. And especially when there may be another team approaching to the same cashout.

This game is definitely faster than most team-based objective games I've played, the characters move faster even in their base sprinting form compared to most games I've played, not even counting the other movement gadgets and skills.

[crystal crow]

I think simply being able to disable mines somehow, maybe while they are glitched or something without them blowing up would sort them out a lot

[brazen moss]

Meh every game will b lets b honest especially team based games with classes thatll get iron out over time but these devs vs cods devs i feel more involved with leaving feedback reporting bugs is easier getting help pn fixes and just talkin to other people and making friends is so freaking amazing and honestly sbmm isnt really a problem especially in ranked for me ive had games that are insainly close ive had games where i get steamrolled ita EXTREMELY BALANCED and i noticed better games in my opinion after the patch cheaters iv only experienced thrice but they were surpisingly easy to deal with my team ive been playin woth has came up woth strategies to counter them so my games have been going so well honestly if sbmm wasnt a thing in this game then i wouldnt have fun steam rolling everyone i go up against until i find the occational player or team thats actually pretty good and makes it a challenge

[vivid kraken]

in my experience the only TRULY broken thing is the c4 on a barrel that one shots LITERALLY EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE

[sweet surge]

fix the cheaters please ranked is unplayable rn

[hidden goblet]

The only 3 broken things atm is invis being able to isntantly reactivate even after taking dmg, medium turret needs lower hp, and remove c4 from throwables

[solar flame]

whats the number; how much damage does it do

[desert summit]

I fully agree, this game is 100% supposed to be fast paced tactical shooter. That’s why this game is so different than other games like cod or apex. You have to be so niche with how you play to make sure you can win.

[crystal imp]

Damn dude, who broke your , and . keys.

@exotic cedar Maybe our definition of "Slower paced game" is different, I think how the game is being played right now is slower paced. I dunno what else to say.

@tough elm Just reload before you die and it won't be a problem.

[smoky gust]

i changed quit it a bit after the accidental post, please read it again if possible so i know if it is still ok this way

[tawny maple]

give it time its still early

[crude star]

I think if canisters had less health it'd be fine, that way they could be shot down.

[small karma]

The fact you're getting a second chance is already a contender for "most powerful gadget in the game". Magically reloading your weapon would exacerbate this issue. It doesn't make sense, and I believe it falls onto the player - especially new players - to learn "Oh, these defibrilator paddles gave my heart a quickstart, time to use my brain and continue where I left off - which was... Right! I was out of ammo! Load first, regroup, re-engage!".

You got this, it takes a couple of revives, but you can eventually wrap your head around it, don't lose faith, you got this!

[quick coyote]

They can make beam a specialization so it’s either a revive or healing. Both is stupid, anti-fun and it’s too forgiving. I still cast my vote on removing it though. In a fast paced game like this with 12 people per game there shouldn’t be this kind of things. I killed you, you either get revived away from the hot zone by a teammate hiding in a bush or spend your coin. What’s the advantage of getting a kill if 3 seconds later you’re full hp again and next to me while i have 0 bullets? An advantage situation for me translates in a almost certain death or me going away. Stupid.

[heady crypt]

l,'K;J LLJ;;'K;

[crisp briar]

lucky, i cant even use it its just bugged

[brazen moss]

Im on phone and im lazy 🤣

[hidden goblet]

no the rpg and explosive tanks are perfectly balanced as is, a well placed rpg will absolutely give a huge advantage, but the combination of c4 and propanetank is just stupid how much dmg and range they have. I have seen the tanks kill 3 people in 1 shot multiple times

[ripe parcel]

Option to change color for red dot sight / scoped weapons, I'm color blind so it can be hard to see it sometimes with the default color.

[vivid kraken]

no clue but one shots heavy :^)

[rough moat]

I would love it if we could get more facial customization options like make up, face types, and or even hair types or eye colors

[atomic prism]

honestly i think the game is fine as is only needs better matchmaking so im not getting paired with fresh install 7 yr olds on chromebooks and the enemies are like top 20 in my region

[quick coyote]

Hopefully devs do something sooner than later. Still can’t believe they fucked up this badly with so little stuff going on

[tough elm]

sorry, im just annoyed cause theres been 3 instances already where i get revived and immediately get challenged by someone else and dont have any ammo in my gun

[small karma]

I'm sure "slower" doesn't mean "slow" in this case, it's more like.. you're chasing a medium that has access to mines, expect them to act like a panicked squid and send mines behind them as you chase!

Same thin if you're chasing a heavy that has Slam. Prepare for them to whip around and one-shot you with it.

It's not about playing slow, it's about playing slower and/or thinking more as you chase, instead of going full headhunter mode and turning your cortex off and running on instinct.

@quick coyote

RE: Defibs as spec
100% this. Agreed, I'd like defibs to be on the same pedestal of importance kit-wise as the heal beam. They're a DRASTIC thing to chuck on a cooldown and say "sure have three of them on one team if you want". It's dangerous.

Defib. as spec. would alleviate this. You get to revive OR heal. Not both. It would balance it wonderfully IMO. MM<L/M/H> would need one defib Med, one heal Med. Easier to know who to kill depending on the state of the fight (1 dead, 2 M alive? Kill the one without the heal beam. all alive? kill the healer ASAP).

+1! Good suggestion! Defib as spec please, Embark folks!

@tough elm
No worries, I get the frustration, still happens to me! I now just panic-switch to my beloved Incendiary Grenade and make do with it while I skedaddle and disengage! 😆 You got this, give yourself time!

[vivid kraken]

explanation of "fucked up"? there's a lot of things people complain about and i wanna know what you're referring to

[exotic cedar]

or failed to consider what the opponent might do.
Also, how the hell was I in the wrong for "failing to consider what the opponent might do". So if I'm full HP, and a 1 HP Heavy drops, do I just let him go? Because he'll just go into a window as soon as he drops. If I would have stayed up and shot downwards, I wouldn't have killed him. Should I look for the mines as I dropped on him? Wouldn't have helped because it placed almost as soon as I landed.

There was nothing I could have done to "outplay" him there except LET HIM GO. A one HP heavy, that was all on his own. It's not acceptable.

If that means stopping for half of a second before opening a door that's very likely to have a mine and waiting to hear even a single beep, then you should do that.
The problem is you're interpretting my example as like the most common way mines were used. At like a door right in front of the cashout or something. Which I admittedly sometimes fall for, and know to look out for in general. This isn't the problem. Most of the time I'm window hopping anyway. The problem is mines are also used very randomly, and at very random doors, at random walls, on the top of random staircases. And u can die very randomly.

The slower-paced/ faster paced game is moot. Regardless of our definitions of slow/fast. What is undeniably a fact is, the game is NOT meant to be played slow for LIGHTS. You have this variability and choice in classes to pick because people like playing at different paces and speeds.

[queen rover]

Please reconsider the SBMM changes from last Wednesday. My fun has really gone down since launch.

[shy axle]

Light class' stun device should be nerfed, bc makes slower so much and unable to use anything for 5s? or even more... Can't even capture the Cash

[quick coyote]

Game is not fun for most of the time. The majority of teams are composed by HMM with little to no diversity in builds (have you ever seen a H using a goo gun?). They got 3 classes and they managed to make one extremely OP compared to the others. Game is very basic, rightfully so, but it feels stagnant already.

[vivid kraken]

i see where you're coming from, heavy is extremely powerful and light is almost a no-go in ranked (though i have seen ONE heavy using goo, and i think we won that game, but that's besides the point)

[long lagoon]

all chat...

[small karma]

Chasing heavy scenario.
I think in that case it depends on what you're running kit-wise.

If you have a grapple, jump out further from the window, and turn around, give the heavy time to place the mine (and you to see it), you can outrun a heavy any day of the week as light. there's no rush.

If his teammates were down there, the mine would've made no difference. You would've gotten clapped. If he had his RPG, you would've been dead too, there's too much "rushing" going on in this scenario. Play smart, drop and grapple AROUND the house, and enter from another angle. Backstab him.

Random traps everywhere
That's the nature of having placeables, but also having enemies around, like.. imagine another light sitting in a room, you come in, they taze your butt and mow you down. Not much you could've done there after you were already in a bad spot. You walked into an ambush and got punished.

I don't mean to just say "get good", what I mean is that you've got tools as light that help you work around it. Glitch nade mines, Grapple and re-enter elsewhere, Cloak so you can walk slower without getting gunned down.

It feels like saying "When I run at mach 3 and someone puts a wall in front of me, I go from mach 3 to 0 and die, make the walls break and not kill me when I do this."

When you pull out Scissor, and your opponent pulls out Rock.. you get smashed. It's pretty simple. It's frustrating, because you lost, but it's something you can understand and strategize around!

Edit : I have hindsight here. I can tell you what to do after you've messed up, it's easy to sit here and armchair direct your past moves into better outcomes.. the issue isn't the tools used to reach the outcome, it's the decisions taken that lead you to this outcome.

Easy to think when I'm not in the heat of battle.. but I fuck up that way SEVERAL TIMES A GAME. I just.. shrug, facepalm a bit, and try to change how I approach things so I get a different outcome.

[exotic cedar]

game is facing the same problem OW faced during Goats meta, 3 tanks 3 healers.
Solution: force 1-1-1 setup in matchmaking 😂
At least that was the only solution for OW (2-2-2 setup)

@small karma

it's more like.. you're chasing a medium that has access to mines, expect them to act like a panicked squid and send mines behind them as you chase!
That's fine if he does that, but why can't his cheeky mines do 125 damage instead of one shot me? 125 will stop my chase, and he will have succesfully gotten away. I'll be an idiot for not seeing the mine hidden in rubble or thrown in grass or whatever. But I'll be alive.

[quick coyote]

Has anyone got an issue with voice chat? I can hear some people and some people can hear me but not everyone can hear me. I have checked everything from in game settings to pc settings and everything seems fine?

[hearty knoll]

how about yall remove this dogshit matchmaking update, game was fun and now every game is just sweaty af. boring. actually had a fun game and yall just gonna do the same shit as every other game? cool. shit product. hope the devs grow a braincell

[unreal spire]

Mine shouldn’t one shot lights it’s annoying and slows the game down way more for a kit that’s supposed to be able to move fast wait someone just said that lmao I didn’t see

[vivid night]

I see a lot of people complain about the battlepass taking too long to complete so I thought it might be a good idea to just handle them like apex does; let weekly challenges stack up so you can do them in one go

[bronze widget]

anyone know how long an appeal can take

[exotic cedar]

🤝

[small karma]

I understand you're frustrated, but put yourself in the shoes of the people who have to take in your criticism.

How do you think they'll read your post? With a smile and a fix-it attitude, going "wow they sure are right! let's fix the game magically!" 🙃

Think about it for a moment.. It's difficult to take it seriously and view it as legitimate feedback when you're literally being rude as hell and insinuating awful things about the devs. 😔 Actually shaking my head right now.. Come on.. 😮‍💨

This is not how you bring feedback to anyone. Strangers or not. This is how you get slapped in the face and ignored for being rude as hell.. Think before you type, calm down, and be constructive, please.

[vivid kraken]

i feel like the 1-1-1 solution only works if you're comunicating well. in a random ranked match it's (in my experience) safer to go hhm or hmm (which is the meta i know but to entertain the thought(?))

[warm hedge]

c4 on throwables gotta go.

[sweet compass]

Introducing 1-1-1 might increase matchmaking as well, as nobody will want to play light in ranked

[exotic cedar]

A good solution could be to give it like a decent cd time before u can detonate c4 after throwing the item. Like a very decent cooldown. A heavy who can accurately directly hit the player with the object would still have kill-potential because this would then explode the barrel and the c4 without the need to detonate it urself.

[vivid kraken]

if you're talking "forced roles" such as overwatch, i strongly, strongly disagree with that. that makes the game feel way too strict and just not enjoyable to queue imo. but it is a "hot topic" with the meta and all that so some solution has to come i suppose

[smoky gust]

i think we need more variations for the in-game advertisements
with our 4 current sponsors we already have some variation but it gets pretty obvious when they only ever mention "pop, pour, perform" when talking about ospuze

[small karma]

re: role queue / limitations
Please search posts made by myself with the words "role queue" or "limit roles". I've made a couple at this point.

Role queue ruined OW. OW2 is nothing like OW1. Legitimately a different game altogether.

Take an open-ended, fun, casual, creative game, and turn it into a forced, streamlined, stale version of itself.. and you know what's funny? It didn't fix the issue. Heal-stacking and deathballing still happen. 😂 People just get mad at snipers, or Dive, or the now-gimped-but-still-present form of Deathball lmfao. It fixes nothing, and brings in a legion of new problems. Queue times being the LEAST of them.

Please, never bring class limitations to The Finals, Embark team. That's legitimately my only wish. Add role limits, the game dies.

If I want to play mirror compositions, I'll go play COD 5v5 or OW. I don't want to see EVERYONE have the same comp, running the same guns, doing the same thing, and whoever clicks better wins. That's boring as hell and I'd rather play COD4 at that point. 🤷‍♀️ That's the hill I'll die on, Role queue stole one of my favourite games of all time being OW1 away from me, I'll be damned if it does the same for this new game I've slowly grown to love. No role queue, ever, please.

[solar flame]

i think youre in the wrong. ofc the game is gonna get sweaty as soon as its avaiable to everyone. because the people who wanna be the first master at the new game is dime a dozen these days

[halcyon meadow]

I feel like that would ruin the point of this game though. The whole point is that you can use the environment to your advantage. + that ruins the whole point of c4, being able to stick it to objects.

[warm hedge]

Just make c4/breach not attach to canisters. Heavy has enough aoe with rpg and light doesn't need a mini nuke.

[prime drift]

are mods avaiable here for game suggestions?

suggestions:
enable chatting with party so we can communicate better (ingame also maybe)
!!practice range with your party(this would be really helpful because i can teach my frens to play better)!!
enable adding friends on steam
sandbox on maps with party
custom matches to play against other parties
match history

[exotic cedar]

nah, limits the scope of the game imo
I don't mind one-shots if the one-shots take skill to hit (unlike mines, fuck mines)

if heavys had to hit their enemies on point with every throwable they threw for the c4 trick to work, think that would be fine

[languid orchid]

Will there be skins for the CL 40?

[solar flame]

Jesus this slow mode is getting on my nerves.

especially if the game has new and high popularity behind it

[hidden goblet]

how can yout alk about skill and then complain about something that is a direct skill check to you, you can see the fucking mines with a bright flashing light if you walk on them you are quite litterally the problem

[hearty knoll]

real shit

[gilded breach]

Please, please, please, allow us to change the lobby background color to something les intense. The red background melts my eyes, after a minute or two.

[brazen sparrow]

so, I've a very much a casual "the finals" enjoyer. But I really think you need to add something line measuring "objective score" or something when the cashout is the same in "quick cash"

[elfin swallow]

a throwing weapon gadget would be great, add it to the light class as a way to deal a small chunk of damage for cleaning up kills.

[fallow oasis]

mines' detection box does need to be changed tho, had times where u are jumping over a mine or running around and it still detonates cause the area is so large

[balmy valley]

Its not as bad as beta but yeah still not the greatest lol

[tidal vector]

Las vegas map there is just a thing in the middle it might be cool to have a massive jumpad that goes straight up for fun

[exotic cedar]

How can you talk when talking is a sign of intelligent life. No intelligent person should read my messages and assume I'm walking into visible mines out in the open. So I'm assuming you aren't.

[stone swallow]

is anything getting done about the amount of cheaters on the game?

[real plover]

Fix the easy anti cheat seriously its been 4 days

[hidden goblet]

Didnt know they added invisible mines, must of missed a patch note

[boreal rune]

main feedback rn:

NERF THE MINES. Make it so when an enemy shoots it, it just gets destroyed. Only have them go off if the team who planted it shoots it.

HEAVY DOME SHIELD- make it so the team who placed it down can't shoot outside the dome when they are within it (similar to Winston dome shield from OW). It's too OP because it forces a close quarters fight, and light/medium is practically useless in that scenario.

[hazy lake]

this fk meta for 3 meds make me crazy...

[solar flame]

MY BIGGEST problem; tthe steal of cashout.
THE MAIN OBJECTIVE of the game can be cheesed by waiting for the two or three teams to fight it out, only to third party the remaining team which still has not healed, or reloaded their weapons so its an easy kill(s), steal the last cashout( for what, 3,4,5 secs?) and INSTANTLY get the cashout.
So how do we fix this?
I say everytime there is a steal of the cashout within the last 5 secs, the timer of the cashout goes up for 15-20 secs up.

Anyone else got a better idea?

[pseudo goblet]

Any word on private matches

[vivid kraken]

i actually really like that idea

[exotic cedar]

Bruv, if you're too stupid to understand what I'm saying or too lazy to actually read the situations I described where you can't see the mines, or only see them if you slowly walk up to every door/angle (i.e. SLOWING THE GAME DOWN, which was the original complaint), then why are you still talking to me. Bait some other idiot into a discussion.

[smoky gust]

imo, looking for mines isn't a skill check

its not hard to look for mines, instead they just force you to do something other than "playing the game"/having fun
(looking for them is part of the game but it isn't really fun, thus the " ")
it feels more like a chore: "do this or die"
i want to play, not do chores

similar story with invisibility
normally you just do whatever but to counter this specific ability you need to turn around often and scan the whole area thoroughly just to be sure you aren't being snuck up on, unlike non-invisible players that you will probably spot by just quickly spinning

[cunning yoke]

F mines, other than that I'm having a blast. Big up to the developers for creating an awesome game that runs the way it should in 2023.

[hidden goblet]

Damn sounds you guys need to load into cod since cant handle any tactical gameplay or thinking. Need to check every door haha. As if 99% of mines arent placed on entry doors to points

[pseudo surge]

medium main and I think if you play with a team your set lol

[gilded breach]

Idk bro, looks exactly the same to me.

[robust hatch]

I suggest the ability to put skins in random select so it change when u start a game or when ur team get wiped.

[balmy valley]

I did get a new monitor so maybe it changed for me a bit, i dont mind it as much now...

[modern flare]

team chat please, i rarely find people talking in vc

[exotic cedar]

literally the Annoyed Bird meme

Small bird: Yeah so basically, mines are a very low-effort mechanic with a one shot kill potential on the one class that is most likely to walk into them. There is an relatively easy counterplay sure, but it slows the game down considerably which ruins the point of playing Light and-

Crow: SKILL ISSUEEE, GET GOOD. JUST DONT WALK INTO MINES LMAOOO, PRACTICE ON MINE SWEEPER

[stone swallow]

This is so dumb, i am vsing cheaters every 3rd game. This game will literally die because of the amount of cheaters

[sacred junco]

remove being able to put explosive shit on items and nerf heavy where did you read that i dont like the game tiktok brainlet?

[rugged portal]

Bruh if you dont like the game just say thay get good💀

[buoyant viper]

fix game crash

[finite torrent]

**Make in-game announcers say your name when doing a sick play implementing the AI engine

after being strict with names and filtering out potential workarounds for offensive names just make it so the AI reads Embark account names ONLY and if the name is too long/has too many incoherent characters then skip saying it, cut off being able to read numbers in a scale longer than 2 digits so “ilovecheese19744” is just “ilovecheese” and the announcer says “Contestan illovecheese” or “by ilovecheese” so there’s a clear parentheses to what the name of the player is and avoid confusion it would definitely be groundbreaking for immersion and in the overall industry because no other game has ever done something like that **

Edit: you can also implement a screen section where the players will be shown a preview of pronunciation of their name so the player chooses which one sounds more correct, if none of the previews fit the players criteria then they can “re-roll” making the ai algorithm change certain patterns until the player finds whichever fits best. this is also beneficial for the developers since player feedback could train AI and make it more effective in the long run

edit 2: if name is not preferred for whatever reason then give pre-made nicknames (take for example forza) for the announcers to say, the key point is the immersion and make the player feel special