💣┇weapons-gadgets

[patent cliff]

theres alot of people good with the dagger, but its still throwing

[uncut timber]

I said nothing about the dagger

[patent cliff]

oh i misread, i thought u said if youre good at a weapon u can do major damage

have u seen eidorian? @uncut timber

[nova moon]

Sniper needs a buff. Either a HS multi increase or a rechamber speed increase. It feels really unrewarding to headshot a medium and them either getting away or killing you if you miss a single follow up shot.

[patent cliff]

damage should increase by distance so maybe a one shot really far away but up close less damage so its not op

[nova moon]

That would make it even more unreliable and would force light players to stay away from obj. It should be a bit clunky in very tight close-up fights, but med-long to long range it should reward accuracy which it doesn't atm. Also m14 needs a buff as I literally never see it played.

[patent cliff]

i mean defualt damage up close but 1 shot from far

but yes it does make the lights play further

but in a game light this sniper isn't fitted

[nova moon]

We have no way to gage distances outside of pings. Having its damage change on distance would just force people to either rushthe light, putting us back at square 1, or make players build a fort of goo. Which would lead to lights just not using the sniper at all.

[patent cliff]

fair enough

idk if it needs a buff anyway, not every gun in a game is gonna be meta

[nova moon]

Not asking for it to be meta, I just want it to feel rewarding. You're already playing the weakest class in the game and using a single shot weapon that requires high accuracy. Which is why I said either a rechamber buff to land follow up shots easier or a HS multi. Body shots are fine with the damage they have now imo

Even with the rechamber buff it would still require 3 body shots to kill a medium

The only thing I can see being an issue is an increase in riot shield usage by medium. But even still its not really played as is so it would mix up the "meta" we have now.

[patent cliff]

idk bro its fine where it is rn imo, good for causal bad for ranked as it should

[nova moon]

How is being bad in RANKED a good thing? That just leads to the same exact playstyles every single game

I'm not asking for it to be another dmr. Just buff rechamber by like 10-15% and it should feel much better

[olive jetty]

I agree that the sniper need a change or balance; in specific hands (less than 15% player base) a 1 shot sniper would be a menace for the other players (casuals), but in overral, i think that a "Buff" like doing more damage depend on the class you shoot or slightly damage boost would be at least interesting at this moment in the game, have to wait in S2

[patent cliff]

wdym

[nova moon]

If certain weapons are "bad" then they'll never see play (m14). Leading to a stagnant meta. What we have now isn't bad. I like the med/med-long range play we have now. But outside of that lights are completely useless. Super close range and we get 1shot by like 30 different things. Super long and we can't deal meaningful poke damage or secure kills reliably.

Giving us at least 1 long-super long range weapon would open up different options for lights and also make riot shields more useful indirectly.

[barren harbor]

bro really just said the lh1 is underused lmao

get blud outta here i see it every other match

[patent cliff]

m14?

[nova moon]

Congratulations? Just because you see it doesn't mean it's where it should be.

[patent cliff]

sniper shouldn't see play

[restive plover]

The real gun the lh1 is based on.

[nova moon]

Explain why

[patent cliff]

Not everyone can snipe for 1, and in a game where u win by cashouts in competative play its not useful

[barren harbor]

it's actually based off the m1a (revised version of the m14 without select-fire)

[restive plover]

Annoying to fight and doesn't really work for objective play, albeit that second part is a problem with light in general.

[restive plover]

Yeah but I didn't want to turbo nerd.

[patent cliff]

facts

[nova moon]

That's subjective

And buffing it will also lower the deaths to 1 shots as it would require a different playstyle

Most of the one shots being mines or nukes

[humble latch]

That could be kool with a k

[restive plover]

It being annoying? Sure. But unless the cash box is both out in the open and already under your control a sniper isn't doing much.

[humble latch]

Finisher concept for this item: (u go up right behind them ether light or medium as the concept said that those are the only ones that can use this item and u hold down the punch button or right joystick) The camera pans out to third person and then your character shoots the back of their knees with the revolver or the pistol the opponent falls on his knees then your character throws the acid on the head of the opponent and then the opponent starts to scream as they melt into coins and all that’s left is coins and the acid that’s on the ground

[nova moon]

All cash boxes can be made to be in the open? That's what heavy players are for.

Have them demo the building. If it's not under your control then having a sniper for cover fire would be ideal to push in and take it.

[vapid garnet]

lvl

[sharp vault]

ak on top

[twilit junco]

Im on top of you 🙂

[sharp vault]

just how i like it

[dire fulcrum]

Personally I like to think that the vault is the most underrated weapon imo

[marble stream]

2

[vital forge]

How can we bring attention to barricades being ruined on console? They've made them easier to pick up which is probably good for PC but that's unintentionally made them useless in combat on console. Deploying them quickly and pulling your primary out is impossible on Console now.

[restive plover]

Lol

[restive plover]

Hello, I need help, after yesterday's update I can't start the game. error keeps popping up. I've tried everything and still nothing 😦 PlayStation. Connection Failed
Your login attempf. Please try again.
Error code TFLA0028

[trim grotto]

change your button layout

[vital forge]

@trim grotto picking the barricade up and swapping to your primary is still the same action no matter what button.

[trim grotto]

What are you using for up on the dpad

[sonic heron]

They should let controllers have the option of auto sprint and separate use item and pick up buttons.

[thorny hollow]

If you have good movement and are tricky enough you can get super close and decimate enemies, take it from me— I main sword and tk

[wooden steeple]

Completely agree when I used them originally I would throw one down switch to my gun and shoot but it’s so clunky and slow now you can’t really use it in combat

And the giant ui (press y to pick up) is annoying too

[remote turtle]

wih swapping was faster

[exotic oxide]

Big question what is the best loadout for medium please Help me

[patent cliff]

fcar, heal beam, jump pad defib and aps/grenade

[topaz sparrow]

Is mini-me's knife any good?

I tried it out in training grounds and it seems extremely clunky

[humble latch]

Do a loadout that fits your play style but sense want best loadout in my opinion it’s the FCAR and RECON SENSES,GOO GRENADE,JUMP PAD and the DEFIBRILLATOR

[topaz sparrow]

And I doubt I can catch up to anybody while backstabbing

[inland breach]

How much does it backstab for? Is it 330??

[topaz sparrow]

No idea

So far melee weapons look like a meme

[inland breach]

I know its somewhere around the 330s for a backstab so a single quick melee or another light swing of the dagger kills heavies

[topaz sparrow]

But you need to backstab first

[inland breach]

I just don’t like the weird lunge feel this game has sometimes, especially the sledgehammer 😭

[topaz sparrow]

I tend to turn around whenever someone runs like crazy behind me

[inland breach]

The Sword bangs though, the Sword is probably the best melee weapon in my opinion. Sledgehammer is good and fun, but sword

[topaz sparrow]

Well, mini-me is known to be able to rapidly decrease distance from your butt

But one well placed burst and they're out

[weak kernel]

have you ever had melee lunge fail to hit someone and launch you out a window at the same time

[soft juniper]

Riot shield I see being the better since it has a higher chance to get close to people

Sword yea mobility is nice but I find myself running into people that are just the little bit to far away with guns

But the same is with guns I end up running into people close range more often with gun then melee weapons

[steady prairie]

Sword + dash
Knife + invis

[raw turtle]

Ak has better recoil then the scar right

Also is sword actually bad?

[soft juniper]

The other way around works good too it’s alot of fun to dash behind someone and stab there back and my friend goes Cloak sword and loves it

[soft juniper]

Sword is good but if you prefer to have some kind of range go M11 since it’s very good at close range

[junior salmon]

no.

[steady prairie]

Ive seen the dagger dash tech. Its crazy, I cant personally pick it up for some reason though

[junior salmon]

.

[soft juniper]

It is very fun the only problem is that to make it work you need to be less then 10m away to get it off

But it does help since it let you get behind someone if they happen to see you

[gray flame]

best light build rn?

[crimson hound]

My light build may not be the best but i think the build is fun

[soft juniper]

Honestly I would say do what ookepooke above my message does don’t go for the best build go for the build you have most fun with

[crimson hound]

it's sniper, vanish, bomb, dash and pyro granade

vanish bomb

[soft juniper]

Ok never mind he’s a sniper 😂 Im joking

[gray flame]

im bad with nsiper

any substituee?

[crimson hound]

nah i think the sniper is the most fun to play with but it's the most anoying

[soft juniper]

Ok wel any gun/gadget that you personally like for light?

@gray flame

[gray flame]

evasive dash, invis, and other doesnt rly matter for me i js go frag and weapon any but sniper and sword

[crimson hound]

but the graple is the most usefull in my opinion

[soft juniper]

Do you prefer close range or being able to shoot at a little bit of a distance?

[gray flame]

i prefer dash

[gray flame]

any

[soft juniper]

Ok so XP might be your best weapon choice since it’s an all around weapon but if you want a faster reload but slightly less range go for the M11

[gray flame]

is the v9s bad now?

[soft juniper]

It’s still good but I don’t find it good

[gray flame]

oh alr ill prolly go for m11

[soft juniper]

I still encourage you to try as much as possible you might like the V9 more

[terse grove]

actually it's the fasteste ttk for light class if u land all shots

[soft juniper]

It’s all preference

[terse grove]

the problem I find with v9s is range and the bad iron sight

[gray flame]

ill test all

[gray flame]

i like the scope 💀

[terse grove]

so go for it, pretty viable

[soft juniper]

And don’t forget use the practice range to get a feel for each weapon/gadget too

That’s where I found my weapons choices

[gray flame]

ok

[teal gale]

Akm gas gren defil heal beam jump pad w or L

[crimson hound]

i don't like the ak

rest of it is valid

[teal gale]

What weapon better (please dont say fcar)

[crimson hound]

sh900

[soft juniper]

honestly dont worrie about what other people say is good because you may have a strong playstyle with another weapon

Between the Fcar and Ak Im suprisingly better with the AK

[minor rune]

New gadget: desorient gas and makes you slow?

[fiery nebula]

FAMAS????????

[uncut timber]

Instead of buffing the dagger, make it a specialization instead for the medium. And it does less damage

[dapper idol]

Should I get the zip line or tracking dart next if I run the revolver

[unique badge]

I feel like the ml60 and lewis gun need a slight buff to dmg

[inland breach]

Tracking Dart for sure. I am very biased towards it but with the Revolver against Lights specifically you can tag em and drop em with two shots or 1 headshot

[uncut timber]

Tracking dart legit is just recon but weaker, zip line is the second best mobility in the game so I’d go with that.

[tiny tapir]

aint no way you think the lewis needs a buff

[unique badge]

Yes becausw the auto shotty is annoyingly better when you learn it

[tiny tapir]

shotty better but lewis still op

[unique badge]

Nah both the ml60 and lewis gun need a slight buff maybe +1 more damage per bullet and the ml60 can have a better recoil

[tiny tapir]

hard disagree, imo lewis honestly needs a slight nerf or left alone, m60 needs a slight dmg buff if anything

[teal lance]

Lewis does good damage for it's range imo

[unique badge]

All fair but please buff the ml60

[restive plover]

If m60 had better recoil it would just be better than the lewis. Similar DPS with a larger magazine.

[calm lily]

We need a scope on LH1

[chilly chasm]

yes

[ivory berry]

Did lewis gun get a buff? Feels like I'm being shredded by heavies now. Haven't played in a few weeks.

[snow isle]

Hey guys does anyone have a link to a video on the Light class breach charge tech?

basically you throw a breach charge and as it's in the air you walk forward a bit and melee and it can explode mid air, hurting other players

I think I saw it on reddit? but I can't find the post

[unique badge]

Its really what you say it is.

[snow isle]

yeah I'm just hoping there's a video cos I wanna send it to a friend. he's more of a visual guy so I don't think he'll get it if I just type it out

[unique badge]

Livestream it to them

[snow isle]

and I swear I watched a video on it but can't find any in my history

[warped quiver]

I have seen that video too but no way I'm going to find that again

[warped quiver]

i don't think so, but yeah the lewis gun really does deal a lot of damage, especially when you hit them headshots

[digital saddle]

niche skill like snukes...

[deep basalt]

any word on when we might get the stick skin for the saber again? i miss my precious lol

[azure terrace]

Add akimbo pistols

[ancient elk]

automatic ones 🙏

[sand monolith]

lewis just needs a nerf so it doesn’t completely overshadow the m60. it already shreds at close range despite the fact it’s supposed to be the long range counterpart to the m60

[ancient elk]

[fringe socket]

[unique badge]

The solo pistol is already strong

[unique badge]

Fair

[lunar sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sling-shepard-sling-slinging-slinger-gif-21799645

light weap w chargeup of sword and accuracy of knives he he

[low bison]

do yall think we will get a new weapon for season 2?

[ancient elk]

most likely

[unique badge]

most likely 1 or more per class

[low bison]

nice

im ready for season 2

[ancient elk]

not me, I need to finish this battlepass

[low bison]

you still have a couple days to finish

what teir are you on?

[ancient elk]

ik ik ik, but it gon be a grind

[ancient elk]

74

[low bison]

you can get it if you do challanges and win tournamets that gives you the most xp

[ancient elk]

is that ranked?

[low bison]

normal tournaments are good for xp too

[ancient elk]

ok, I'll keep that in mind. I appreciate you letting me know that bc I just been grinding out quickcash for xp and been wanting to find a quicker way

[low bison]

np bro, i used to do the same till i learned quick cash has an xp cap of 1000 but tournamnets have an xp cap of 5000 so tournaments are much better for gaining xp

[ancient elk]

wait what, never knew there was an xp cap... no wonder I wasn't gettin that much lmao

[unique badge]

this is news to me thank you

[errant junco]

The arm time for mines is too long.

[uncut timber]

nuh uh

[uncut timber]

Dagger loadout

weapons goated if you play it correctly

[hardy galleon]

bro thinks hes the spy

[uncut timber]

💀

[thorny hollow]

That’s a pretty solid loadout

[low bison]

No problem

Is dagger or sword better ?

[sullen tree]

I prefer dash with the dagger, but invis can work too

[uncut timber]

yeah, i mainly use it for picking off alone players

[restive plover]

Sword easily, dagger is a bit too gimmicky.

[unique badge]

Sword for range dagger feels weird

[rich slate]

i need a maching gun

[soft latch]

Minigun for heavy

[heady dragon]

VSS for medium

[spare turtle]

Does the APS turret take down the stun gun?

[stuck pier]

[azure terrace]

Musket

[rigid epoch]

APS turret tops glitch grenade right?

[errant whale]

I'd do the opposite and buff the M60 to give it its unique style compared towards the Lewis

[vocal flume]

Sniper still isnt being fixed, what is embark doing

[stuck pier]

What is wrong with the sniper ?

[long oxide]

I think he might be talking about the scope on the sniper a lot of people are talking about it

[wooden bear]

yall think the m11 melts faster close range than the MP5???

[junior salmon]

Yes

[patent cliff]

sword

[patent cliff]

mp5 is quicker, but m11 is more consistent up close

[celest pebble]

Damn when are we getting new equipment or guns

[reef sage]

Season 2 might bring something, we have to wait for now

[restive plover]

Does the M60 have the ability to “cut” through some structure like the Lewis? I rarely if ever play heavy so haven’t tested it out myself.

[brisk silo]

Famas is all but confirmed for S2

[sand monolith]

idk it’s kind of silly that the lewis is able to play close up so easily. it makes picking the lewis kind of a no brainer and you don’t really have any reason not to. also i think the m60 is already good on its own tbh. just completely outclassed by the lewis

[errant whale]

And the visual recoil is atrocious

[sand monolith]

true they could fix that

[blazing osprey]

I prefer the m60 personally and at range it feels like I'm fighting the gun more then the other team and the hip fire is awful unless they are in your face it makes beating lights with the stun gun impossible

[vague monolith]

Might be a weird take but I wish the APS worked in a cone in front instead of a circle around it. It still prevents grenade spam in doorways, but still allows breaking walls around it. As it stands APS just reduces viable options instead of being a defensive tool that you still have to think about placing. A good comparison is it feels like they gave the dome shield the same HP as the barricade on heavy. It should either be directional or eat less explosives

[teal lance]

Just shoot the floor or wall right out of its range

[low bison]

any tips on playing shotgun on havy?

[dense marsh]

i dont think its too long.... you can still throw one at your feet and kill a light pretty easily xD

[dense marsh]

roll with another heavy shotgun 🙂 and wreck everything that moves

[tardy leaf]

I definitely recommend the two shield abilities to counter longer ranges, RPG for at least some longer range. And the last thing of your choice depending on your play style. C4 is what I would use to counter people pushing you while someone is stealing the cashout

[low bison]

okay thanks

[compact prawn]

50 Caliber Heavy Sniper that's a one shot one kill with only one bullet for heavies xD

[heady dragon]

It could 149 on body shot on all rangers and even be magazine fed, with extremly high recoil, slow relod and cycle rate and iron sights imo

[reef sage]

I'd say make it a specialization where you have to put this rifle on a bipod(I assume it's gonna be Barret M107) with everything you said but let's still give it a scope. This would make heavies think what would they prefer: protection, goo, charge or range rifle

[heady dragon]

That might be a bit too much overpowered, imagine being able to have superior dps both close and long range. Maybe if it had recharging ammo?

[reef sage]

Hmm, maybe it could be a Gauss rifle

If you played Stalker or Fallout you might know what I mean, that thing was crazy

[modern jay]

five grenade ideas:

1. heal grenade
   will heal anyone in the aoe, friend or foe.
   aoe similar to pyro grenade.
2. knock nade
   deals very low damage but has huge knockback.
3. reinforce-nade
   makes walls unbreakable for a few seconds in a large area.
4. translocator
   sombra translocator
5. bouncer
   bounces off walls dealing damage to anyone it hits

[reef sage]

Last two could use some explanation but first three are pretty neat

[modern jay]

fair

[reef sage]

Heal grenades especially

[modern jay]

translocator is hard to explain

basically you teleport to the "grenade" a second after its thrown

its a dash but you throw it essentially

[reef sage]

So, basically, teleportation grenade

[modern jay]

honestly hard to call it a grenade but yeah

[reef sage]

That's... Awesome!

But it should have a long cooldown so people won't abuse it

[modern jay]

yeah

also bouncer could either be useless or the most broken ability ever depending on how its implemented

[reef sage]

I, personally, want to see cluster grenade from Worms. You throw it and it explodes in smaller grenades

[modern jay]

frag but better

[reef sage]

Those grenades individually would deal small damage but in closed quarters it would be devastating

[modern jay]

basically the point of bouncer

[reef sage]

Let's say the grenades will behave like heavies grenade launcher grenades, they bounce one time and then explode

[ebon garden]

yo whats the best medium build rn?

[tame comet]

Riot shield

Jk

[ebon garden]

:/ bruh i mean like full loadout, like ability and all

[tame comet]

Depends. If you’re playing with a heavy, heal beam is great. If you have good aim, recon and fcar are good. Turret is useful if you want to play defensive. Fcar vs AKM, Fcar if you can hit your headshots. Jump pad and zip line are both good and you should probably use one. Defib is great combined with heal beam.

[ebon garden]

mkay so like a turret, akm, jump, defib and like a gas mine should work?

[tame comet]

That works. Had some fun with Turret,
Model, gas mine, explosive mine and defib, jump pad. You can hold a cash out all day but pushing offensively is hard

[tame comet]

Play what you find fun though 💥

[ebon garden]

alr, what would you recom for more offensuive tho?

[tame comet]

This works. Just sub turret for heal beam or recon

[ebon garden]

ah okay so the ability would be best to change for more offense, bet

[tame comet]

Turret takes like 4 seconds to deploy so not that amazing offensively

[ebon garden]

ah okay

and like heal beam for more team support ig

[tame comet]

Keep in mind fire will kill your gas, so you can pivot to frag if flamethrowers in the lobby

[ebon garden]

yeah okay but thats just mid match changes

imma just try this for now and see what works, i used to run light but im tryna climb more in ranked which is not idea

[tame comet]

I climbed to plat with medium and then realized light is where I have the most fun. Been climbing plat with sword dash

[ebon garden]

yh i have a lot of fun with light too, but im stuck in silver too because mostly bad randoms and im not good enough to carry

i do climb but at a very very slow pace

[open ermine]

Is it just me or is the deployable shield pickup area extremely large can can often not swap to my guns without looking away.

Tbh It is so annoying I wish they would change it back to what it used to be

[restive plover]

Now I have to worry about geometry along with all the rest during a match 😭 Edit: Already some when using zip line I suppose.

[pearl relic]

is playing the sniper goated or not

[tame comet]

Depends if you’re 🐐

[pearl relic]

oh ok lol

cuz a headshot with the sniper doesnt insta kill

[heady dragon]

honestly it's incredibly fun

[tame comet]

Yeah it’s hard 😂

[heady dragon]

It does lights

only

[somber knoll]

I cannot decide between m11 and the xp54 😓

[unique badge]

xp54 on light the m11 isnt as stable in most distances

[reef sage]

m11 is the best at hip firing but mp5 is more agile so I'd suggest starting out with mp5 and then see where the wind takes ya

[somber knoll]

For sure. It’s just that I was getting so used to controlling the m11s recoils pattern so being at a distance didnt really bother me. But yeah I gotta aim really well with it. With the xp it’s much smoother. And It actually gets trickier for me using the xp at close range. That’s where the m11 shines. Love both guns but yeah I wanna be more agile so imma get good with the xp. Thank you 🙏

[vocal flume]

Shots dont go where the reticle/crosshair is and the scopes kinda off. It just doesnt feel good since like 6 patches ago

[slim gorge]

Please nerf; light stun gun, medium turret & heavy nukes so it’s less irritating to play against!!🙃

[covert parcel]

would you guys throw away your teammates trophy, not using defib, with 20 seconds on the clock.
or defib them and try to steal

i swear these are the type of teammates i get in ranked

[amber coral]

Who has Ray gun in the finals

[royal pier]

MGL32 idea: After bouncing, the mass of the grenade increases so it doesn't go as far. It would make firing from above easier, not to mention closer range.

[teal lance]

Nah better idea, it explodes on contact with an enemy but still bounces around if not

[unique badge]

throw my teammate away and jump off the map

[tame oriole]

🤣

[random panther]

can the Medium class please get a selfish gadget like a heal dome or something for them not just to be support

[cedar salmon]

vro i play on ps5 but idk how to use my throwables and my secondary i js started and have my shoot puttons switxhed to my bumpers can anyone help

[unique badge]

That's a playstyle and skill issue. The fragger build for med is recon fcar defib jump pad and a nade. Also the healing beam is strong even if its just 1 on a team.

Also if anything the medium class has more flexibility in playstyle cause all gadgets are viable and 3 mediums could only go wrong if none of them have a healing beam or defibrilator

[rich slate]

need someone to kiss😚

[unique badge]

./ban

[soft juniper]

could give healbeam a secondary fire the heals the user but makes it over heat x2 as fast

[edgy horizon]

Quick question, is the LH1 a piece of garbage or do I just suck with it? I feel like it has the potential to be a cool ass gun.

[toxic isle]

the Damn Stun Gun keeps getting me killed, mainly when i use the flamethrower bc of the range

[unique lynx]

Brass knuckles for medium would be cool, spiked bat maybe for heavy. Someone needs a .50 cal Deagle, not light. Light needs an assault rifle with either a lot of recoil or not as fast TTK. Medium and heavy need precision weapons, kinda.

[clever sail]

heal nade for lights

[unique badge]

you see the problem there is you have a flamethrower hahaha

[toxic isle]

whats the best heavy gun

[unique badge]

the usual loadouts you'll see are: Mesh Barrier Lewis Gun/Auto shotgun Dome Shield RPG C4

you want to abuse the natural tankiness of the heavy

[restive plover]

It's good, just hard to use with bounce and pretty poor iron sights.

[edgy horizon]

Yeah I think I just gotta prac with it more.
Figured I would get some opinions before just being like "devs plz buff this weapon, nerf things, etc."

[azure terrace]

Add gadget to wall run

[late lark]

What gadgets should I use for light?

[hearty pecan]

Hello! what is your favourite weapon?

[raven flicker]

that's not a gadget nor weapon

[stuck pier]

but this is a Weapons and gadgets channal

this is not a place for this

i have no idea

nope

[topaz sparrow]

Is the dome shield destructable?

[stuck pier]

[potent ledge]

Hello

[remote turtle]

hello

[sullen turret]

Hello

[gritty swallow]

anybody know how to do the thing where you launch yourself with goo?

[little monolith]

Ohhhh incredible

[warm lion]

the what

you could just, use an actual search engine

[gritty swallow]

I found out how to do it but thanks for the advice

[topaz sparrow]

Why is mini-me's shotgun so bad?

[midnight mango]

Buff the dagger

Speed up/remove the alt stab animation
Or
Make alt stab do 100 dmg when its not a backstab
and
Make backstab do 350 dmg so its easier to kill heavies
Or
Make the "back" hitbox very large /have the backstab lock onto the back

Alternate idea :
Make the knife a piece of util and nerf backstab dmg

Please fix the dagger so its useful

[little monolith]

4 bullets for the light's shotgun would be great

[vast sun]

yea too op

just take the shotgun out

[hard field]

It's a double barrel they would have to redesign it •~•

It'd be easier to halve the reload speed then to double the ammo

[little monolith]

Yeah true 🤔

[hard field]

Think about it

[wide forge]

true since missing shots punish you a lot since u can barely oneshot

[hard field]

Actually yes buff the light shotgun

[wide forge]

aham also the more ammo to the shotgun is just going to be the same one as the medium build already have

[patent cliff]

dagger is meant to be niche

Not every weapons is meant to be viable, when u do get the back stab it makes it feel more rewarding

[patent cliff]

can’t double ammo as it’s a double barrel gun lol

[patent cliff]

I think it was fine before, people just be complaining that oh invis double barrel was too op, it wasn’t that deep

[hard field]

I have invis shotgun, but I use grapple V95 personally on light

V95 is op

[empty charm]

Make a gadget that makes you blow the fuck up

[hard field]

The kamikaze

[chilly turret]

The smgs are too fucking good

Fucking hate em

[hard field]

I don't hate em

[chilly turret]

It just seems to me that the XP-54 is wayyy too consistent and allows lights to basically melt anything with mid-tier aim

[royal flicker]

You can do the same as light if ya punch the breaching charge as you throw it out, I stand 199 damage,

For when you really want someone dead

[golden adder]

It is a busted gun but the class overall sucks so people defend it

[chilly turret]

I played a few games of light recently and I kept getting ganked by the 54, feels like I have to switch classes for any sort of counter play

[restive plover]

Well there's your problem. It's not that the xp melts too hard, it's that light gets melted.

[digital saddle]

not likely, but it needs to

[hard field]

Could the heavy get some sort of sticky bomb gun that works like the demomans in TF2? It could give the heavy more movability, and it could be low DMG to counter the fact that it would have high knock back

[royal flicker]

I know how to fit the light shotty,

Make they akimbo wield it

[chilly turret]

Even as heavy it feels as though I’m getting out-damaged

also we do need akimbo weapons

[royal flicker]

"We realized that light seems to be dying too much, so we gave them another gun"

[restive plover]

Not to be rude, but you should probably work on your aim. The times to kill in that scenario are still very skewed in the heavy's favor.

[royal flicker]

Yeah I mean killing a heavy is like killing 2 and a half lights

And arguably is a lot more valuable then killing a light

[south vault]

Now lights can miss twice as many shots when they die

[sharp relic]

no.

[pale coral]

Fuck stun gun

[sharp relic]

you only need one backstab on a heavy and then a right-click to kill them.

to me, you just sound like a massive skill issue, boss.

[digital saddle]

*stun gun fucks

[chilly turret]

I do very often kill the light that initiated, but then I’m either stun-gunned or cleaned up by some rando

[pale coral]

Light is ass

[digital saddle]

can be

[charred cloud]

So when are they fixing light class

I've mained light since Christmas, and have 62 wins as light, I am now switching to medium because light is becoming almost unplayable and it is actually terrible

[azure ice]

Heavy carries the game fr😭

I don’t have a single match without 5 heavy’s being in the game and mostly with sledge hammers

[charred cloud]

Bro lights are becoming rare

Last game I played there was only 1

[azure ice]

I like playing light with the sword sometimes

[green sonnet]

I see 2 heavies with one medium healer or all mediums running heals not to many lights

[azure ice]

Recently people have been using throwing knives

[green sonnet]

Or all mediums running turret

Throwing knives are OP

[midnight mango]

call me crazy but what if they gave light either the mobility util or recon util to make them a decent pick

[green sonnet]

Lights weapons are OP but there health bar is vicious

[azure ice]

Mobility? Bruh what about the grapple and like the dash thing

[midnight mango]

like mobility items for the team (bounce pad, zipline) so they can actually help other players

[azure ice]

Light would be good with 200 health

That’s what having a medium on your team is for

That’s the whole point of medium. If light did that then what would medium do?

[midnight mango]

heal, recon,revival, locking down objective w mines

[azure ice]

The heal thing is broken fr

[midnight mango]

real question, what do you think lights should have for team play

[azure ice]

Maybe more ammo in the magazines😭

[normal cliff]

Maybe they get a med pack that heals for about 25 initially then starts the health regen.

[mighty prism]

fr its crazy

[mighty prism]

this is a good idea too

[digital saddle]

this. something like stim to heal self or team.

[modern jay]

four grenade ideas:

1. heal grenade
   will heal anyone in the aoe, friend or foe.
   aoe similar to pyro grenade.
2. knock nade
   deals very low damage but has huge knockback.
3. reinforce-nade
   makes walls unbreakable for a few seconds in a large area.
4. bouncer
   bounces off walls dealing damage to anyone it hits

[empty otter]

sledgehammer is broken, it one hits a light

[amber ingot]

i think that's the point

[empty otter]

then they should lower the movement speed while swinging becuse the heavies can easily catch up to us lights and mediums

[charred lily]

I have a question? I run medium with healing beam, jump pad, defibrillator, and revolver. What should my 3rd gadget be?

I try a bunch of different gadgets and none really click.

[molten lava]

i use a frag or pyro nade

[charred lily]

ok

[trim hull]

gas grenade, its the best grenade for defending cashouts

[charred lily]

that’s what i have been using and it’s alrighttt

[trim hull]

or maybe try gas mines

btw you can set traps using explosive mines and jump pads

[charred lily]

bouncing?

[trim hull]

place the mines under a jump pad near cashout stations

[charred lily]

ohhhhhh

[trim hull]

yes enemies will bounce but they will also take damage of explosive mines

[charred lily]

i’ll try that, thank youuu

[trim hull]

its really fun

[trim hull]

np

[restive plover]

Yooo, that is such a ratty play 🤣

I’ll be sure to do that every time now haha

[trim hull]

yessirrr, cat pfps ftw

[restive plover]

You know it!!!

[radiant kelp]

LOL since when was this a gadget skin? I love that

I don't know how I got it or when, but I'm not complaining

[warped quiver]

it's a reward skin from the open beta battlepass

[radiant kelp]

oh, cool!

[topaz sparrow]

What's up with the silenced pistol? Why would I take it over MP?

[uncut timber]

It’s goated

[copper sand]

ooooo i might try this

[next slate]

what’s the best loadout for mids

[obsidian island]

We need turret skins

[restive plover]

Love them all

[restive junco]

glitch grenades could use a buff

explode on impact would be fantastic

also a larger radius

considering light is quite underpowered at the moment

and heavy is a bit overpowered

hoping this new season introduces some balance changes

light is so much fun to play but feels weak against double heavy,double medium teamas

being shot with a nuke/rpg as a light is tough

especially sicne heavies very often open up fights with one of those two

sa12

could also use a rework

maybe a longer reload time and shorter range?

or maybe lower damage overall?

[patent bloom]

fire extinguisher as an ability for medium? would be used mainly to counter flamethrowers, but also could be used if your teammate is light with thermal vision. ability could work in the same range as flamethrower, but throwing smoke instead of fire)) aand the ammo should be less, because smoke stays quite long

[reef eagle]

For team play: healing beam, AKM, Jump pad, sonar grenade OR zipline, and Defib
Solo Play: recon senses, FCAR or AKM, gas grenade, defib, and Jump pad

[next slate]

thank you i’ll try it out

[reef eagle]

Good luck!

[regal relic]

i loves me some goo gun fellas

[flat moth]

Yea let's recommend gas grenades to solo players so they can kill their tms. Nice
If you are solo and bring gas you need heal

[reef eagle]

No, gas blocks off a certain part if the map, and you really want to be communicating with your teammates, so i think it is more beneficial to run recon and gas grenades if you aren’t a designated support player

[flat moth]

Why would you recommend recon sens to solo when you have to give callouts and recon grenade for team when it tells everyone. Makes no sense

[reef eagle]

You are really just trying to get yourself kills, If you wanted to find peoples locations, you would just use sonar grenades, but it comes down to preference

[regal relic]

mines are the best

[flat moth]

Yea if you were going for kills sure but I think that is a losing mindset. Should try and work more as a team. Nothing worse than a solo que who thinks they are top shit that just end of dying

[reef eagle]

Exactly

[regal relic]

anyone here like barricade im really loving it over mesh and bubble and it alows me to play goo gun or charge what do u guys think

and mines with it are sick

[flat moth]

For cover sure but in terms of outplay it's nowhere close. Can peak out with bubble since you can shoot through it and dome for tms while providing cover fire etc

Dome is way more aggresive that's why I like it

[regal relic]

i find the ballistic sheild is better because its instant cast so in combat i can place it down as a outplay tech and it wont stop my flow. bubble sheild feels too clunky imo, but maybe thats a me thing 😛

[flat moth]

Yea the instant cast is why I gave it a go but I like it duck behind cover so I dome out from cover to re aggress. The barricade is like the cover but it doesn't really sheild you when shooting (just a nice head glitch). If you play cover optimally during a fight shield should be better.

[unique badge]

the placement even if its an underhand still bothers me that it moves

[patent bloom]

bubble shield is used 90% when either you're healing somebody, or stealing a cashout, whereas the ballistic shields are made for defending your cashout, thats why you can place them up to 6 (+ they are quite strong)

[flat moth]

Just look down and bubble it hardly moves.

Otherwise if throwing a distance place it against the wall

[patent bloom]

• i hate the thing that bubble shield bounces before deploying, which is annoying. better would be if it was deploying on first impact, and maybe even stick to the surface

[unique badge]

it still gently bounces and that is the problem

[flat moth]

It's not a problem I see tbh, just comes with experience. If you move forward with it and and look down or throw it where it pops covering your movement instead of trying to get inside it, should be no problem

[hasty cloak]

I hope embark adds a toggle melee assist I cant use my riot shield

[naive bear]

this game needs actual recoil or weapon sway or something, getting crossmapped while playing against a Lewis Gun player is unbearable. or maybe the Lewis gun just needs a fat nerf because its clearly the hvy classes best weapon, outshining the m60 by hundreds of miles.

[wet vigil]

Ciao come si puo giocare con un amico dopo avergli inviato la richiesta?

[naive bear]

I tried both and there is no clear reason to use the M60

[wet vigil]

Sono italiano e non riesco a trovare niente per capire come giocare con un amico

[azure terrace]

Add summons/pet attack gadget. Summoning will have an animal homing to an opponent and does damage.

[loud violet]

add a wingsuit gadget that will be so mutch fun

[echo crest]

medium needs a good semi auto rifle option

[loud violet]

true

[jovial shard]

M16, colt 1911, ar15, RPD, uzi, and a spas or mossberg shotgun would b cool :0

[echo crest]

lever action rifle that shoots faster when you hip fire but has more range when you ADS

smoke grenade/smoke canisters hide any objective icons from showing if they are in the smoke

some kind of mountable camera you can place to watch objective or clear a room

new ability for medium called flow state where your recoil/dispersion is reduced and your reload speed is faster

new ability for heavy called flesh hook where you hook and launch an enemy straight into the air, breaking through any ceilings

[jovial shard]

i would like a AKM in the game. dat wuld be cool i think.

an*

[echo crest]

new ability for light where you summon a decoy that can trigger mines, turret, etc. and has the same amount of hp

[jovial shard]

add a fart in the game

[stuck pier]

and this is what ?

[jovial shard]

my friend, it was a joke

i love dat skin alot tho

[jovial shard]

this wasnt a joke tho

[echo crest]

make frag grenades clear smoke

[jovial shard]

i rlly hope the devs got a good paycheck from this game, they deserve it

[floral glen]

We pretty much already have an Uzi which is the M11 and that alone is already annoying

[jovial shard]

maybe for medium?

how is the m11 annoying tho i love dat weapon🦅🦅🦅

[sand monolith]

smoke is already bad why make it worse

[chilly turret]

akimbo weapons PLEASE

[teal lance]

Any good way to level cloak? It feels like I'm not earning much exp even though I'm cloaked most of the time

[chilly turret]

easy

dont use cloak

[bronze needle]

pls remove sniper i hate random teamates that get 10k combat score but 0 kills

[fickle radish]

Rework sniper at least, atm is useless

[ripe coral]

Sniper isn’t the issue there it’s the players, I don’t like it either but I don’t want a weapon removed because some players are morons

[ripe coral]

If you’re bad at the sniper yeah sure but used well it’s a very strong weapon

[fickle radish]

It's not about it being strong or weak, it's about the fact that is just annoying and not that useful for how the game is made. It's only useful for farming KD cause it's easy AF to kill people with it, bit it's not the best weapon for winning matches imo. For my experience 90% players using sniper are just camping 200m away randomly tapping people

[teal lance]

Bruh I wish but I want the ghost charm

[warm lion]

that's players using it playing in a useless way, not the weapon being useless

[potent ledge]

All the siper mains i see camp on a crane an shoot the hole game

[ripe coral]

Same here but I’ve always seen good snipers

[potent ledge]

all campers in all games suck an just ruin the game for everyone

[fickle radish]

How do you play on an useful way? You can for sure play it more aggressively and deal big burst of DMG, but it's an high risk with an high skill ceiling, so at the end of the day is still better to play another class or another weapon instead

[warm lion]

skill issue tbh

[fickle radish]

If a weapon has an high skill ceiling and even if after learning how to use it is still worse compared to other weapons then there is a problem with that gun.
Fun on quick play for sure (for the ones using it, not for the ones fighting against it), but far away from being meta.

[potent ledge]

nerf the sniper, the shotguns, the pistols, the fcar, and lewis gun

[warped lagoon]

nerf everything please

make rpg and grenadelauncher do same damage on others as on yourself so its super op

[potent ledge]

grenade launchers is for the people i call captein noob

[warped lagoon]

its not that bad

[potent ledge]

i know but you just get to hig grund and spam and then you get 5k combat score

[warped lagoon]

yeah well thats how you play that thing in like any game

[potent ledge]

no need for aiming

[pulsar cove]

does anyone have the icons for all of the weapons and gadgets

[umbral leaf]

no

[potent ledge]

the rpg needs a 10 dmg buff and stop the self damadge nerf

[regal relic]

rpg doesnt need to define the heavy and it does if it 1shots anything

same goes for the nuke

[fossil basin]

The sword and flame is overpowered

[reef sage]

My suggestion: give smoke grenades to heavies and mediums as well, it would open so many new possibilities and tactics, lights so rarely use them.

[vital hound]

i use it a lot as light 🤷‍♂️ makes you harder to see, plus it can be paired with thermal vision

[reef sage]

Good for you mate but, unfortunately, most of them prefer vanishing bombs instead of smokes. If smoke grenades were given to mediums and heavies as well it would make thermal vision more popular as well so it's a win win I think

[vital hound]

good point

[reef sage]

Medium-medics would utilize them to revive in a middle of the battle, mediums with recon would also find use for them seeing enemies in smoke. Heavies with sledgehammer could apply them to safely cross an open area or stealthly creep on opponents, flamethrower users would use them to put out fires they made so they won't burn themselves

There's a lot of possibilities, as I mentioned before, it's just a small fraction

[finite aurora]

I think giving it to heavies would be a bit broken in some cases, assuming they're running goo gun

FIre is one of the best ways to get rid of a well goo-fortified area; if a heavy could just toss one down to prevent the goo from being lit and to extinguish it, then the breaching team would have to restort to either explosives - if they have any - or they would have to shoot it, which generally doesn't work against a competent goo gun heavy

[reef sage]

You have a point

But there's a way to deal with it I think: if a cashout is in some kind of building you could make a small breach and toss a few gas grenades in there before heavy notice it. Gas and smoke blend together and cause of smoke gas cannot be burned so it would make a hard time for an enemy team to position themselves in the way where gas doesn't damage them and they can see the breaching attempts

[finite aurora]

This is true, but my concern then would be dealing with more than one heavy; not to say this wouldn't work. It would be great in any tight spaces which have been goo-fortified, especially in areas like the elevator.

And, since I don't know, for one, does gas or smoke have a bigger AOE, and for two, if a gas grenade is partially within a smoke's AOE and fire touches the gas in the area that is not in the AOE, does it still end up burning and clearing the gas?

[reef sage]

I'm not sure about the last one, all I know that gas and smoke mixed together are very difficult to deal with but it needs some testing to be sure if there's a way to burn it

And I think it mostly depends on heavy's skill to react fast

If they miss one breach it could mean the game changer, who knows

[finite aurora]

Honestly yeah. I'm pretty sure I could react fast enough if it were just one person, especially to patch medium sized holes or smaller, but if there were multiple doing it at once, especially combined with glitch grenades, I'd be KO'ed

[reef sage]

Imagine what would happen if enemy team use a bunch of mines to blow up the whole wall, even two goo gun heavies wouldn't manage to counter such breach

[finite aurora]

Wouldn't even have to do that; I have the hardest time patching a hole that has rapidly appeared underneath my feet

https://tenor.com/view/fall-the-mole-people-drop-falling-fall-through-hole-gif-18789135

[finite aurora]

I have failed.

[reef sage]

I have a problem with falling down a lot when I use a sledgie

[finite aurora]

A teammate of mine accidentally created a hole on the SEOUL bridge when I was crossing it with either the sledge or the heavy's charge, and I ended up falling to my death cause of it. They were new and testing out what the heavy could do, to my unfortunate peril

It made for a good laugh though

[reef sage]

Same thing happened to me but I was the one who KILLED my teammate 😂

[sleek bramble]

Should I buy virtual extension skins ( 125 credit, the classic wood skins ) or wait for free battle pass s2 skins ?

I mean for 1887, shorty, lewis

[jovial shard]

why would ur teammates kills bother u, especially if they got high combat points lol

[bronze needle]

because on sniper combat doesnt matter as much because it gives like 150 every shot but u need to hit at least 3 to kill someone and if you just hit people once or twice it doesnt matter

[reef sage]

I'd suggest to wait a bit. I have a strong craving to buy that medieval hammer for sledge but season pass won't buy itself

[patent bloom]

rocket jump should be a thing, imagine falling off the building and launching yourself back in the air by shooting rpg in the ground? would be quite neat and useful in some tactics, + one more use for rpg

[steep stag]

Wall running?

[crimson blaze]

Wall running would be legit

Lights need more utility for sure wall running could be a utility but it’s not team based so ehh

[slim linden]

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[crimson blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wow-oh-wow-gif-10644935457501613476

[ivory kestrel]

is there something wrong with the sword or is my internet just bad because i hit people, gold coins come out, and it don't do damage

[vestal tulip]

Guys imagine a oven mitts skin for the defibs, frying pan skin for jump pad and a mustard/ketchup shooter healing beam, you could cook the lobby 😂

[crimson blaze]

That’d be hilarious😂

[unique badge]

Nth Day of saying remove all forms of nukes on all classes

[crimson blaze]

No

[restive plover]

Yes

Ok

[lusty ibex]

why remove a risk/reward thing, to make the game boring?

[unique badge]

Where's the risk in placing 2 c4 and explosive mines on a can that can be shot from 50 meters and detonated also exist. On more than 2 heavies as well

[lusty ibex]

you make it explode and they die bro its not so hard lol

[crimson blaze]

Well, shooting off a canister not always the easiest sometimes

[lusty ibex]

hitting stuff with a nuke not always the easiest sometimes, and while its in the air you can shoot the heavy while he's waiting for the nuke to land

[long thunder]

hi

[copper moth]

hi :0

hi me

[crimson blaze]

Hi you

[normal cliff]

Hello all

[blazing crescent]

shooting red canisters is pretty hard

[amber cloak]

Very

[fast mulch]

Trying to get the yellow barrels to blow up on time is hard

[sleek hound]

I like it

[stone rampart]

nah we need trumpet cup mutes for defibs

[sharp berry]

I know some people enjoyed wall running, but most did not. thats why call of duty ended wall running nearly 10 years ago. if it was fun, it would be main stream.

[warm lion]

that's because cod isn't titanfall

[slim linden]

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[soft latch]

What if they add the pump shotgun (i dont know gun name/models name)

[warm lion]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[soft latch]

Give the healing beam a leaf blower skin

[warped quiver]

put that into #👂┇game-feedback please

[soft latch]

Ok

[warped quiver]

thank you :D

[grizzled mantle]

CATTLE PROD FOR RIOT SHIELD/ CHAINSAW FOR HEAVY

[warm lion]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[tropic snow]

this acc the best theory as to the cns weapon leak

[slender magnet]

it's not fn f2000. It is indeed famas

New map will be tokyo, and new rifle would be famas. 100% guarantee.

[grave harness]

ACCEPT NO LiES

[tranquil ferry]

my perfect medium build:
specialization: healing gun
weapon: akm, although occasionally i switch to fcar or even riot shield
gadgets: explosive mine, defib, and gas mine

any suggestions on how to make it better?

[lapis lotus]

i run grenade, zip or jump pad and defib
mines aren’t my favourite to run, grenades have more offensive potential when they work you can team wipe 1v3

[tranquil ferry]

fair fair, i love mines to protect the cashout station

i get a lot of eliminations off of em, and i absolutely love defib and healing beam because its quick revive at full health basically

[lapis lotus]

yeah mines are great when ppl don’t see them lol i’d recommend swapping one mine for movement tho if you don’t have another medium can’t get the team to the floating cashouts

[spare owl]

hear me out

when used correctly dagger is nuts

[midnight mango]

when i use the dagger i either go like 10/1 or 1/10

[spare owl]

SO TRUE

[brisk silo]

Anyone got any ideas for gadgets we might see in this upcoming season?

[spare owl]

i hope we get like a wall run

for light

[brisk silo]

I'd sooner see them get a healing gadget like a grenade that you can throw at yourself and team mates

My friend is a light main and they don't have anything for team play

Wall run specialisation would be cool but kinda niche?

[spare owl]

yeah

[slim linden]

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[loud violet]

add banana gun🍌

[spare owl]

lmao

[shy sigil]

looks like a burst rifle, a burst pistol, and a new shotgun are being added?

[warm lion]

that's a pumpy

[shy sigil]

also teleport grenade, wall deleter, grav nade, and prop/gadget swapper

[warm lion]

another turret counter 😭

[dawn glen]

I saw a burst pistol in the trailer👀

and a new shotgun

[uncut timber]

They did it

[stuck osprey]

that was so hype

[remote fable]

YO i was just thinking about this

[uncut timber]

They actually did it

[remote fable]

they ALSO did the glitch thing, except mine was a gun and theirs was a grenade, I was cooking fr

[uncut timber]

Fr bro are you secretly embark staff

[remote fable]

I wish lol

[shy sigil]

Im guessing the pistol is light, the rifle is medium, and the shotgun is heavy

unless they skip over light since they have more weapons anyway and give both burst guns to med

[mellow holly]

New shotty for heavy, my guess is KS-23

[grave harness]

@slender magnet how about now? Where is japan, famas? 🤡

[slender magnet]

Famas in trailer

[mellow holly]

And the burst fire pistol looks like Berreta 93R

[grave harness]

Its f 2000

[slender magnet]

Famas felin g2

[warm lion]

it's famas
but it aint japan

[grave harness]

U know how famas looks like?

[warm lion]

guys check the steam page
it's right there

[slender magnet]

I was wrong on tokyo, I admit.

[warm lion]

im just happy we have a bullpup
bullpups are cool

[slender magnet]

Famas felin g2 without the optics. Tell me it isn't the same rifle as in the trailer.

[mossy sigil]

Hear me out

Healing turret for mediums

[warm lion]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2073850/view/4130435365862894609

[grave harness]

Its not

I was wrong

[grave harness]

Sry

[warm lion]

takes a lot of courage to admit being wrong

[midnight mango]

Why is no1 talking about the pump shotgun n the the burst pistol?

[warm lion]

still crying at the reshaper countering turret 😭

[quartz hatch]

The burst pistol finna be crazy fr

[hoary coral]

I love the new gadgets they show cased!! The new specialisation could be soo op! lol

[shy sigil]

can't wait for whole lobbies of people only trying out the new stuff

[dull furnace]

Gotta get my hands on sweet daddy slug shotty

[chilly turret]

I’m on spring break right now but when I get back I am SO getting the KS23

[slender magnet]

Ks23 for the heavy is gonna be wild

[mossy sigil]

So there is the new shotgun for heavies?

[chilly turret]

I’m so fucking hyped for how the gameplay loop’s gonna change with all the new shit

[shy sigil]

pump action slug shotgun

[slender magnet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KS-23

This one

[chilly turret]

it’s a massive fucking gun

[slender magnet]

I agree

[chilly turret]

hilariously stupid and unnecessarily brutal and I am so glad we’re getting it

[mossy sigil]

Yessir

[normal cliff]

Are the lights getting a burst pistol and a new smg?

[chilly turret]

No, just the burst pistol

[normal cliff]

Okay

[slender magnet]

This one. Beretta 93r.

[hoary coral]

Was there a new shotty????

[slender magnet]

@hoary coral this one for the heavy

[warm lion]

read the steam page news thing

[hoary coral]

That’s so cool!!!!!!!!!

[normal cliff]

Is it gonna be slug, it didn't look like a slug

[warm lion]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2073850/view/4130435365862894609 read

[chilly turret]

slug shotgun for the fucking win

[shy sigil]

I hope there are skins without the 93R's ugly-ass foregrip

also no stock pistol stocks are goofy

[chilly turret]

Didn’t look like it had a stock

[normal cliff]

Oohh, can't wait to miss 99% of the time with the slug

[chilly turret]

But that 1% is gonna be so sweet

[shy sigil]

literally, medium shotgun spread is tight enough I always miss by inches, slug will probably be the same

[normal cliff]

Right, gotta scare the lights my leaving it to a 1 in the chamber showoff

[chilly turret]

Like the Kraber in Titanfall, it’s gonna be a pretty damn good dopamine loop

[normal cliff]

Oh yeah. As nice as shotguns feel I don't have the precision for them all the time

[normal cliff]

That's if it one hits people

[warm lion]

considering heavy's relationship with lights
I can see that

[shy sigil]

I wonder if the 93R will be easier than the V9S, the sight looked better at least

[warm lion]

ok but v9s has raygun

[normal cliff]

It'll be nice to have a 3 burst instead of single tapping. I don't have a massive trigger finger

[shy sigil]

yeah my finger always hurts after playing V9S for more than a few matches

[chilly turret]

I hope they buff the M60 with easier visual recoil or something

[shy sigil]

yeah M60 buff would be great, I love the look and 70 bullets are a nice crutch but it is unfortunate when half my mag gets wasted on air

[normal cliff]

It looked to be a bit better of recoil during the trailer

[chilly turret]

yippee

[obsidian delta]

the m11 looked different in the trailer

[chilly turret]

skin

[royal flicker]

I hope the slug shotty got some good range to it, so heave can poke better at range like a mini sniper

Irl I think slugs are good at 100+ meters

[chilly turret]

God I fucking hope so

Ofc it’ll have irons and some pretty decent damage drop off but it’s still a bigass shotgun

[digital saddle]

so: baretta to L, famas to M, shotgun to H. is this it?

[midnight mango]

Is the heavy getting 2 new guns? I saw a heavy holding what looks to be a mp5 at the 23 seconds mark, feel free to correct me

[shy sigil]

I love the squared off supressor and no stock is great but not a fan of the blocky back of the gun, reminds me of minecraft

[stoic briar]

Nice trailer, looked like the stuff being shown off was mainly Medium and Light. Was that new Special for Light, too?

[digital saddle]

L seems to be getting baretta and portal

[echo crest]

new special is for med

there could easily be more since its just a trailer, they didnt even announce the new guns

[echo crest]

i cant seem to figure out what that is, you might be onto smth

[digital saddle]

that is the new shotgun shown off in the close of the teaser

[reef sage]

Holy fuck: FAMAS, pump shotgun and some new pistol will be added, I'm so hyped now!

[fresh tinsel]

so the dematerializer gonna make a hole the same as your team badge?

[karmic pivot]

Is the grenade the TV head throws at the start the same as the Anti-Grav? It looks the same, it could also be the deployment method for the warp gate

[buoyant epoch]

what do u guys use with dagger?

[karmic pivot]

Invis+Smoke+Thermal. The smoke masks the invis flickering and I can see through the smoke with the therm

[buoyant epoch]

have u not seen the dash strat? check it out on yt ive been using it lately

[karmic pivot]

I don't care about meta or good strats, I just like being The Predator

[buoyant epoch]

yeah yeah but like when using the dash, u can like stab, instantly dash so the animatyion continues, and then u turn back and insta kill them

[young quail]

use this shit in tarkov i cant wait

[karmic pivot]

So it is a new shotgun?

[young quail]

ye

hope it one shots lights

[karmic pivot]

Sick, it looks like the guy who's holding it is a heavy but I can't tell

[zenith dawn]

The new shotgun is for the heavy class, yeah. Check the news post on steam.

[karmic pivot]

Oh I didn't see that thanks

Everything I know is from frame-by-frame analysis from the trailer

[sterile zinc]

I wonder how the absolute ridiculousness of the KS-23 is going to be in The Finals. 4 gauge slugs can produce up to like 200 lbs of felt recoil and could realistically delete a light class from existence. Absolutely love the KS-23 and glad to see it in another game.

[buoyant epoch]

u rly should check out the strat tho

[radiant star]

Anyone know if season 2 will be buffing/nerfing weapons?

[buoyant epoch]

it surely will, i dont think they have said anything about it yet tho

[empty halo]

Heavy get new shotty

[quartz hatch]

So in total that’s what like 3-4new weapons??

[narrow bane]

3

[quartz hatch]

Been at work so haven’t had time to check out everything if someone tryna give me a quick rundown😅

[north chasm]

can't wait for everyone to use the same weapsons from last season xd

[harsh valve]

Looks like 3 new weapons

• pump shotgun
• famas
• burst pistol
  3 new gadgets and 1 new abilities maybe more.

New mode 5v5 push king of hill style

[hasty sundial]

when is s2 ?

[zenith dawn]

Wait holy shit I think there's gonna be more than 3 weapons

Check around 1:08 in the trailer, I'm pretty sure that's a heavy wielding a deagle

Jumping down on the 5v5 platform

[narrow bane]

in 3 days

[narrow bane]

prob a new skin for the revolver

[inland breach]

Gonna abuse the two tap headshot bursts on the new famas to bring that in line first then l’ll probably go to the AKM since that’ll be better in general after the initial patches

I swear to god if we get a shit ass meta of explosives lm gonna lose it

[empty halo]

Dematareliser +nuke and gateway nuke to stop aps nice

[shrewd vault]

i just hope heavy gets it i just fucking hope

[slender magnet]

It's for medium. Heavy will get ks23

[woeful agate]

make glitch impact

[buoyant epoch]

i really hope that mediums get the famas

[quartz hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-smiling-cat-cat-cute-kitty-gif-12097880735853048722

[woeful agate]

they do its confirmed on steam

[buoyant epoch]

thats very cool, i also hope that along with that comes a fcar and ak nerf so people actually use the famas instead of it just being forgotten

[woeful agate]

honestly people will use it regardless if its new. but i hope that it is strong enough on release that it can compete with current fcar and ak

[golden adder]

My prediction is fcar and ak will get nerfed and the famas is balanced around that.

If it’s built to be even more of a longrange laser than the fcar because of the burst It’ll be the new best medium weapon.

[violet basalt]

fcar cant be nerfed because it has a little bit more damage then AK, and AK has 16 more bullets in the mag, also AK already have a kinda long TTK for a balanced" class like medium, if this weapons be nerfed, Lights will never be countered by mediums, in a gunfight at least, just my opiniom. I think famas will be a burst" fcar and thats it.

[tidal hollow]

Revolver getting it's bajillionth legendary skin before other weapons get a single one

[rare comet]

Nah thats the burst handgun for lights

[tidal hollow]

Lh1, xp or shield legendary skins when

Medieval sword and shield would go so hard

[quartz hatch]

Deadass tho I’m just wanting some legendary skins for fcar😤

[tidal hollow]

Sniper 🙏

[quartz hatch]

Yall think the VR count will reset when the new season starts?? Or if we already got it stacked to 3000 it’ll stay like that

[hybrid wasp]

You'll be able to spend the VR on new weapons and youll earn more VR to complete the collection. Then stay at 3k all over again through season 2.

[quartz hatch]

A skin for the pyro grenade to make it look like a Molotov would be dope too

[golden adder]

Both AK and fcar deserve to be nerfed because they dominate medium’s other options as well as every other weapon of the other classes save maybe trading with the Lewis.

Also classes shouldn’t outright counter others. This game isn’t set up like rock paper scissors.

[quartz hatch]

I thought so I was just curious cause I’m tryna try it all out as soon as it drop lol

[hallow leaf]

If we are on the topic of medium weapons then the revolver needs a range buff

[hybrid wasp]

You don't have to @ me, you asked a question and got an answer.

[hallow leaf]

Currently it's just a worse shotgun

[normal cliff]

They could give it the ability to fan the hammer, then the revolver would be deadly up close

[hallow leaf]

It needs something, it's main selling point was it's range but then they nerfed it's range for no reason now it's just a harder to use shotgun

[orchid lagoon]

But it is in a lot of cases

Smoke > Fire > gas
Sledge > flamethrower > defib rushing
Charge > barricade
Glitch > Shield > dmg

[golden adder]

Eh the only thing close to a triangle is the interaction between smoke fire and gas

but gas is way stronger than the rest by far, fire has utility yet it’s not worth it typically, and smoke is weak and not worth running.

[orchid lagoon]

Some things have more general use than others, I don't argue that, but most things have a counter

[golden adder]

In general though I wouldn’t say any class counters another, the meta is what it is because light doesn’t provide anything substantial enough to be worth running.

Why run a mostly short range glass cannon with little other utility when you can run:

a medium which is a midrange DPS on top of a healer/support

or a heavy that also does a lot of damage, reshapes the terrain, and provides a ton of shields.

[orchid lagoon]

i'd say the problem lies more in medium and heavy and not light so much.

light does have it's issues and needs more utility it can bring to a team. but the fcar, imo, is a problem in its current state. and some could argue the lewis is a little much also.

currently, there's a bug for mesh shield though. unconfirmed if a bug or not, few ppl are acknowledging it. explosive dmg goes through mesh shield. if a feature, it's a pretty huge nerf to mesh shield.

[topaz sparrow]

Are all weapons hitscan?

[orchid lagoon]

oh, and the other big issue. defibbing shouldnt be 50% it should be a static amount. as a result, lights get fucked for getting defib'd

[terse raptor]

No the throwing knives aren't

Or the flamethrower

[minor trail]

what do yall think the best gadget/specialization is based on the trailer

[umbral arch]

The portál thing

[minor trail]

i think its the one that changes the stuff into the other stuff

[terse raptor]

It's not even out yet how can you say that for sure

[minor trail]

but i mean the dematerializer seems pretty good, unless your whole team can't go through it

bc im just imagining ways you can use it and if your whole team can use it then it would be amazing

[golden adder]

Even with every aspect of heavy/medium toned down, lights still are gonna suck in the main game.

They’re by far the worst at surviving 5 seconds completely immobile in the middle of the chaos and do nothing for sustain/protection for teammates doing the same.

Reviving is the same way, huge loss of value when your only option for revives are running/sneaking around.

[minor trail]

what i'm wondering is if the new dematerializer will allow other teams to go through it, or if its just your team

[next marsh]

I was wondering if you used the dematerializer to drop a cashout (like the video showed), could you re-seal the floor so people cant get through and would have to go around to drop down a level. make for easy steals

Or like a timer delay for re-seal

like a 5 second re-seal time

[terse raptor]

Is there any place where we can read what's coming next season or are you just basing it off of the trailer

[minor trail]

what would yall think of a passive ability as the specialization, where if someone is shooting at you, you can get a blurry outline (like recon senses but far away) for like 5 seconds

[next marsh]

I havent seen any written detail, just the video. I may be wrong

[terse raptor]

Ok thx

[next marsh]

Like invis?

[minor trail]

no

[next marsh]

Oh sorry... like outline of the shooter

Eh, I dont know. I think I have a good game sense to know where someone is shooting from. Might not be worth substituting for the other specializations

The portal gadget is going to be interesting.

Im interested to see if you can bait people off map lol

[lament mountain]

the data reshaper seems like a hard counter to the turrets. like screw you, *turns your turret into a flower pot* i'm still not sure how the gateway works though, when i first saw it, i thought it took you into this odd looking version of the world before realizing that no, the new map just looks like that

[orchid lagoon]

we can definitely agree on this. they are the worst at surviving. smoke isnt thick or fast enough, but vanish bomb is pretty nice atm

[golden adder]

From what I’ve seen that seems to be the case.

[next marsh]

The portal looked like it shoots you forward a determined distance in the direction you throw it. Like +50 yards forward

[minor trail]

what if the effect is temporary

it seems like it could help with any issues with just completely nullifying the turret

[lament mountain]

even then, it seems to only turn things into throwable things, so you can just throw the new turret away.

[minor trail]

bc its a specialization, it shouldnt be hard countered by a gadget

[minor trail]

yeah

[lament mountain]

i did also realize it's not just for turrets, it counters covering the objective in defensive items in general, like mines.

[vocal flume]

fix the sniper, fix the damn servers

[next marsh]

Yea I wonder how many changes can be made before cool down

It would be sweet if it could just switch the enemy turret to a friendly

[lament mountain]

i assumed one use triggered cooldown, regardless of the things changed.

[lament mountain]

oh, i just checked a reddit post. the gateway comes in pairs, so you throw one, throw another, and then go between them.

[next marsh]

nice!

I also just did a slow-mo on the data reshaper. There's a short clip of it being used on 3 different objects in one use. So it works as an area effect gadget. So if 3 mines are on the chashout, all three change

[midnight mango]

is the new gun a berreta or a 93r

[late lark]

I hope an berreta

[eager aspen]

its a 93r according to their steam announcement

[lone compass]

any one know what that new shotty looking thing was

[next marsh]

Im guessing a heavy pump action

[lone compass]

thats what i was thinking not sure if good or bad for heavy

but still glad for new stuff

[fluid oak]

wondering which specialisation for the medium class is best?

[lone compass]

i still think medi beam for winning

[fluid oak]

what about the turret or recon sense?

[lone compass]

recon is super fun i run that when solo and maybe its just casue im bad with placement but turret never really does good for me

[fluid oak]

i think it looks slow to fire in the overview video

[narrow bane]

i hope this is a rethorical question

[fluid oak]

hmmmm tufff choice

[lone compass]

im not a medium main but i just run medi gun so i can help tm8s but with recon u can prevent your team from getting snuck up on

[fluid oak]

yeah true

but for defense especially for a cashbox a turret with mines can be good no?

[lone compass]

def

annoying to play against as well

[eager aspen]

KS23 Slug Shotgun for the heavy

[lone compass]

so maybe a slower firing but long range shotty?

[eager aspen]

most likely yeh
the real KS23 is a 4 gauge iirc so it should be a super heavy hitting shotgun

[lone compass]

im down for that

[eager aspen]

it holds 4 shells total (3+1)
so if they stick true to what it is irl it'll be interesting

[fluid oak]

alright i will get turret why not

[eager aspen]

im most excited for the M93R cause that pistol is smexy

[lone compass]

also any info on the m60 changes i noticed that in the trailewr it appears to shoot faster

[eager aspen]

Oh im not sure about that; they havent posted any patch notes yet, just general info for the next season

[lone compass]

ok

[dusty flare]

Wonder if you could turn stuff back to mines to set up ambushes

[lone compass]

that would be interesting or like making enemy mines yours

[dusty flare]

Yeah thatd be sick, like turning a sign back into a turret to shoot them in the back for retake

[lone compass]

lot of out play potential for sure

[robust cargo]

https://imgur.com/a/tSFnBms
Throwing this in here as well, havent seen people talk about this at all, but there was a few frames between 0:35-0:36 with an smg that wasnt shown in the rest of the trailer but my guess its the pps-43

[lone compass]

that does match up really well maybe a version of the weapon without the stock like a run and gun type

[robust cargo]

Possible, said it earlier, but since it wasnt shown a lot in the trailere its possible that its not going to be in this update but it'd be weird for it to be used just for those few frames

[lone compass]

yea maybe a mistake on their part or leaking a gun early for a release later in the season

[robust cargo]

They love leaving little hints as well so its not impossible that its a little treat for the observant

We'll see in three days i guess lmao

[lone compass]

true lmao

[upbeat kite]

I might be wrong to say this, but it feels wrong that u can’t one tap mediums with the headshots from sniper rifle

[lone compass]

i think that u can be too mobile with the sniper for that to be not op

and the sniper is too easy to use

[upbeat kite]

That would make sniper riffle more viable tho and could be effectively used in mid range fights, rn u can’t fight medium with it, cuz before u’re able to shoot a second shot they already beamed u to death

[empty oracle]

Hold on, is the gateway meant to be like the Zipline placer where you choose a start and end or is it like the Fortnite rifts where it just teleports you to a random place?

[red spruce]

So…there’s 3 new guns and 3 new gadget One for each class, with a new spec for mediums?

[digital saddle]

thus far

[fringe badge]

Has anyone identified all the guns in the teaser? I have some screenshots but cant post them

[supple hatch]

theres a new smg lookin thing

a shotgun

[robust cargo]

Confirmed thus far is the famas, ks23 and 93r. I spotted another one that looks like the PPS-43 which hasnt been mentioned in the posts

[narrow bane]

a beretta 93r, a famas, and a pump action shotgun

[supple hatch]

nowayyyyy

[narrow bane]

where? what timestamp?

[fringe badge]

Yea I know about the ones mentioned in the steam post but I think theres more

[digital saddle]

Lights: we got shotgun at home.

[robust cargo]

Shown in a few frames after the KS-23 is shown with the heavy, around 0:35-0:36

[robust cargo]

Comparison image i made quickly between the two

Its hard to tell exacly because of how blurry and glitchy it is, but the profile doesn't match any of the announced or current guns, so i think its something completely different all together

[fringe badge]

I think I saw that elsewhere ill send you my screenshots in dm

[narrow bane]

hmm... i'm inclined to think it may be the famas

[robust cargo]

Please do

[robust cargo]

Its a possibility, the trigger guard on the famas is similar to that one as well, but the part towards what i think its the magwell doesnt really match the famas, to me at least

[narrow bane]

where would that weapon even fit in though? we already have 2 smg's in the light class, maybe a medium smg?
yup i noticed the magwell too

[robust cargo]

Along with the thing thats sticking out at the top of the frame, it really looks like a curved mag

[robust cargo]

I have no idea, i've seen some people mention a smg for heavy but im not too sure about that. Its also possible that this is just a gun that they are teasing, they might not add it for this update, but sometime in the future. I have a faint memory of them doing something similar with another gun or gadget but i am far from sure. They are a bit sneaky tho and like to throw in little hints and teasers into the trailers so it wouldnt surprise me if it's added further down the line if im right

[narrow bane]

yup, you have a point

[fringe badge]

https://imgur.com/a/ZnlJ7Xw
These all look new to me

[next marsh]

working on that discord rank I see

[robust cargo]

Peep the dm you sent me, explained them all there

[eager aspen]

The first one is just the 93R with the stock and the foregrip folded up
kind of a bummer that the grip is folded cause it'd be awesome for them to two hand the pistol like that

[robust cargo]

Actually, looking closer at this, the thing in front of the trigger looks like the dumbass safety on the famas, so its very possible that its just the famas and not a new one, but the thing that looks like a magwell at the top is still odd

[eager aspen]

also the cardboard mp5(?) that the heavy is holding looks like another intro emote that they're releasing
its similar to the cardboard revolver used in the western set thats in the shop

[fringe badge]

Ohh yeah makes sense

[eager aspen]

probably some kind of SWAT themed set based on the cosmetics seen with the emote

[lusty ridge]

tru

[fringe badge]

And is the last picture really just the xp-54

[robust cargo]

Looks like an AK to me, but like velol said in the dm, its odd that the heavy would have an ak, or in this case an smg. But its possible that its just a showcase and not necessarily a gun they'd actually have unlocked

[eager aspen]

are we talking about the same one at the 23 second timestamp?
i was assuming it was an mp5 based on the curvy mag and the circular front sight

[robust cargo]

The mag looks a bit too thick to be an mp5 to me, but you are right the circular front sight would be weird for the ak

[unique badge]

Nth day of saying remove all form of nukes. Bless you

[robust cargo]

Think im staring myself blind at this point, we'll see in a few days, but its interesting to speculate

[fringe badge]

😅 ty for the help

[robust cargo]

👍

[wintry raven]

They should add golden apples

[supple hatch]

medium needs the dmr instead of light imo

the dmr and the revolver switch places or sum

[wintry roost]

Idea for the shotgun for the medium, there should be a small headshot multiplier ever so slightly you should be able to 1 shot headshot a light when you are in kissing range I find. or aiming at the head point blank should reward you somehow

[covert snow]

i have a suggestion, I think having 4 equipment instead of 3 could be another game mode idea, a lot of time 3 feels a bit underwhelming. also on controller I guess nobody uses the wheel + joystick up to change equipment back to main weapon (because you can just press y instead). On keyboard just add another key bind i guess
What do you fellow gamers think?

[unique badge]

If you mean an make it gun +4 equipment instead of gun +3 then I would disagree csuse this makes heavy even more powerful. Imagine gun + dome shield +c4 +rpg and 1 nade or mine or barricade on a heavy.

[slim linden]

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[olive wharf]

Forest

[flint harness]

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[olive wharf]

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[nova fiber]

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[restive plover]

Okay hear me out u should add a bundle where the items are the Stun gun,Defibulator and Glitch grenade and they are all electrical themed

Stun gun-the stun gun u pull out ur finger in a gun shape but u also activate electric in ur hand and shoot the lighting from ur finger.

Defibrillator-You have ur hands open and as u go to run up to defibrillate ur teammate electric comes out ur hands and shocks them a bit like wattsons revive from apex

Glitch grenade-U hold a ball of electricity and throw that and it explodes and for the second one to appear u do some sort of summon animation to create the electricity

i personally think these will be so cool to have

[olive wharf]

No

[flint harness]

@supple hatch

[olive wharf]

Bro

[slim linden]

its legit lol

[flint harness]

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[olive wharf]

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[nova fiber]

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[flint harness]

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[slim linden]

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[olive wharf]

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[unique badge]

My bad homie, I just don't trust any links posted on discord

[slim linden]

it should be added here soon <3, try it out in the mean time

[rugged bear]

Each class should get every type of nade IMO.

[onyx moat]

But what about the glitch grenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadeenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadeenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadeenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadeenadegrenadegrenadegrenadegrenadeg sorry its not letting me delete that. Its better for the light

[gleaming wren]

I agree, that would be cool

[hardy slate]

the new gadgets is like exactly what i asked for in like January, this is sick

[restive plover]

I think if enough people get behind the idea it will be brought into the game which i think would just make a nice spin on everything instead of guns u have ur hand and the chains can be on ur fingers which would be cool

[merry hemlock]

Bow and arrow 🗣️🗣️

[quick bone]

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[proud otter]

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[tidal lake]

whats gonna be the s2 meta based off the trailers gadgets

def dematerializer

[heavy falcon]

thats actually an amazing idea

[hollow elbow]

this will still be available in S2 right?
https://youtu.be/CoYjTI11pkQ?si=3--YheN_zAXCr0tu

[teal lance]

Really hoping some equipment gets an xp buff in s2, I don't get how I can earn 1k-2k charge and slam xp but I've been getting around 500 with cloak

[chilly turret]

We need a skin for the sledgehammer that’s just a fucking metal folding chair

I am hoping and praying someone important sees this

[uncut timber]

YES

[chilly turret]

We need to send this to whoever adds skins to the game

[slender magnet]

famas and ks23, v.cool

[chilly turret]

I’m so hyped for the KS23

It had better behave like a 23mm shotgun or imma be mad

[dreamy hare]

someone saw new pistol that shoots in burst mode?

[chilly harbor]

That will be an interesting weapon

i hope its strong enough to rival mediums and heavys

[sharp relic]

god i love burst fire pistols

[dawn glen]

Yeah, mentioned it yesterday

I also spotted a new pump action shotgun

[sharp relic]

KS23, it's a russian shotgun that's made with a recycled aircraft barrel that fires huge shotgun shells. in this case, it fires a slug.

[dawn glen]

Cool

[lusty mist]

4 gauge shotgun... light players in absolute shambles

[restive plover]

Maybe they'll change the double barrel to be worth a damn.

[covert snow]

I agree this would require some balance, but in theory I think it could be fun

[slender magnet]

I second that

[unique badge]

Maybe for casual gameplay it can be an option but not for ranked

[kind glade]

What is the current meta for every class?

[restive plover]

I love how one of the new guns is an obscure soviet era 6 gauge shotgun that uses a recycled 23 mm anti-aircraft barrel with equally large shells. With how strong it is in real life, I can't wait to see how its balanced in Season 2!

[ebon light]

Beretta

[ebon light]

Also the FAMAS which is rumored to be burst as well

[tidal hollow]

You can see it shoot in bursts in the trailer

[boreal laurel]

Medium: FCAR, defibs, recon senses, gas mines
Heavy: Lewis Gun, SA1216 shotgun, RPG, charge & slam
Light: XP-54, V9S, stun gun

[chilly turret]

The SA1216 is too much fun not to use as well

[golden adder]

Charge and slam is not meta. It’s arguably the worst specialization for heavy

[echo crest]

charge and slam is really good idk what youre saying, it has so much value for a low cooldown

[boreal laurel]

I agree, but everyone uses it. I’ve heard people say that goo gum and shield are bad too. I personally prefer shield—it’s all down to preference

[echo crest]

you can stop steals just from the cooldown, the aoe from the jump slam is insanely good, you can counter mesh shields, direct hits do a ton of dmg

[golden adder]

Mesh is by far the best and between goo gun and charge I’d take goo gun.

Has more utility and actively counters a charge

[echo crest]

mesh gets melted soooo easily

[restive plover]

bro the new shotgun looks fire

[echo crest]

goo gun is underrated I agree but charge and slam is definitely not bad

from a movement/entry standpoint alone it has insane value, and if you run RPG and c4 you have 3 pseudo one shot abilities

[golden adder]

Charge rarely has a use in a gunfight and not being able to support the team is a huge con vs mesh especially.

[chilly turret]

Charge is just so much fun it’s hard to care about not being useful- that’s what the dome shield is for

[echo crest]

idk what gun fights you are taking where you cant utilize charge

[golden adder]

Any where you’re not within 20ft of enemies on the same ground level

[echo crest]

you just dont have to be on the same level as your enemy

and you can proc it while youre taking a jump pad

[chilly turret]

Charge can be used to tunnel down to the floor beneath you for a bait/quick escape, finish off a low health enemy, melt a light, knock an enemy off the cashout, just general silliness

[golden adder]

If it was that good it’d be run consistently at high ranks. People only run mesh because having an overtuned shield is broken with a coordinated team.