💣┇weapons-gadgets

[timid lava]

aight

[fleet zodiac]

obspuze, its egg yolk, I promise, just cook it in a different way

[cedar peak]

real

[minor sky]

Anyone else missing that crushed ospuze can revolver skin?

[cinder jetty]

that's twitch drop isn't it?

[trail hamlet]

huge nerf stun

[hardy frost]

The knives feel like complete dogshit lmao

way too slow, projectiles are way too slow

the m2 is way too slow aswell. With how slow the anims are youd expect it to be hitscan

[prisma comet]

Looking for Cis Female!

[slender lava]

a

[prisma comet]

Hello!

[peak prism]

hihi :3

[prisma comet]

Hello!

[prisma comet]

Do you have OF?

[peak prism]

🗿

[sage wyvern]

thats the same mf who just said hes looking for a "cis" female in the other chat💀

[fathom siren]

.

[prisma comet]

you are the only mf

[sage wyvern]

ok lil bro whatever floats ya boat

[prisma comet]

?

[fathom siren]

i have an of

[olive totem]

bro what 💀

[fading schooner]

Would love for weapon customisation like suppressors etc later on and removing adding sights frfr

[weak lintel]

FOR THE DEVS please make something like a watergun that can kill all the fire that spreads in the woods it would be a nice gadget!

[fathom siren]

dont believe everything you read

[fading schooner]

Except it isnt water and its more fuel to make more flames 🧐

[weak lintel]

hahaha

[fading schooner]

Would be interesting to have a gadget to have either or though

[weak lintel]

yeah

[fading schooner]

I love being aggressive so furl would be awesome

Fuel not furl xD

Damnit steve xD

[shrewd warren]

yes

[stable basalt]

im missing it too

[cedar goblet]

Big bottle for heavy 😧

Fire would have to stay up for longer though

[old beacon]

wait yeah i dont have it either

[fading schooner]

More fire is always good

If it aint on fire, it aint worth it

[indigo cloak]

idk if its just me but the grappling hook feels a little different, like you carry less momentum or something

maybe i just got rusty in the month away from the game 🤡

[fading schooner]

Is it faster with light? Wonder if its a weight class thing

[indigo cloak]

grappling is exclusive to light iirc

[fading schooner]

Ah shii, just started today so xD i just hop around with my jumpy pads and cause chaos xD

[indigo cloak]

real

[tidal sorrel]

im sure i sure the option to buy it in medium screen might be wrong tho

[leaden pollen]

[indigo cloak]

checking rn hold on, i coulda sworn it was a light only

while its booting up it says on the wiki it's a light only item

[tidal sorrel]

then im stupid

[leaden pollen]

alright, only light can buy hook

[tidal sorrel]

my bad lmao'

[indigo cloak]

yeah no grappling hook

all good

[tidal sorrel]

thats weird tho cause i swear i saw the option to buy it but the light starts with it

[indigo cloak]

but yeah maybe the light class put on a few pounds over thanksgiving or something

[tidal sorrel]

so where did i see the option to buy it

[indigo cloak]

it was all a dream

[tidal sorrel]

ig so

[leaden pollen]

anything can happen

[hearty idol]

What counters what for gadgets?

[modern ridge]

Did they murder stun gun?

Reading the patch notes it sounds like you don't stun anymore right now as they can just turn around and shoot right back?

[shadow ferry]

glitch grenade counters heavy bubble

[restive plover]

What's your opinion on the Dagger?

[zinc crag]

is there a way to get rid of gas its so annoying

[simple quest]

Did we get sights for guns? I am tired of iron sights. At work rn cant check

[dusk solar]

W wish I could hold it longer tho

[restive plover]

Fire can get rid of gas

[restive plover]

just unlock a gun that doesn't use iron sights.

[obtuse cargo]

Was the akm nerfed? It feels weaker. The suppressed pistol also feels weaker compared to the scoped smg

[simple quest]

FSCAR does same damage but has less ammo so its like nerfing yourself

At least it was like that in beta

[obtuse cargo]

FCAR is shit compared to akm bc of its ammo

20 is far too little

[simple quest]

Thats why it needs to do a slightly more damage like 1-2 per bullet

[thin canopy]

Where do i go to report bugs

[serene bridge]

i keep seeing people talk about the stun gun being ruined, but what has actually happened to it? do people actually not get stunned anymore?

[pine herald]

• Stun Gun
Removed sensitivity reduction from stunned players
• Added glitch effect to stunned players, rendering their Specialization and Gadgets unusable for a short time

[serene bridge]

hm aight thanks

[grand turret]

On their website

[sudden valve]

The stun gun isn’t useful at all anymore, using it reduces your chances of winning a fight.
The only reason the stun gun was viable was because the sensitivity. Now that it doesn’t change the opponents sensitivity, you would do better just shooting.
TLDR : Revert stun gun change

[half parrot]

Old stun gun was a guaranteed kill. New change is good imo.

[pine herald]

I would agree if everything didn’t one shot lights.

[tender patio]

What class do you play

[half parrot]

Usually med. I've been trying out sniper recently though. In beta I tried med/light

[peak plank]

There are like 2 what are you talking about

[graceful oasis]

how much costs the battle pass ?

[wise sedge]

10$

[naive raven]

fire removes gas

[rough wing]

the moves are slow?

[fringe sparrow]

I haven't played much yet but i tested the all the guns in firing range:

• I think v9s is balanced, but it feels a bit week now compared to lh1 and xp-54.
• LH1 was OP in open beta, but it's still strong now with fire rate nerf. I think it's a good chance, even though i loved how it was before 😄
• Lewis gun has faster TTK than AKM + more bullets + heavy has 350hp, seems balanced(not)....
• RPG still OP, hit anywhere close to the feet = 180dmg, doesn't even need to be direct hit
• Autoshotun still broken op, how is this not nerfed?!?!
• I liked the changes to akm/scar, i was akm main but now scar is as viable.
• Flametrower feels balanced now.

Heavy still is way too strong for how much hp he has.

[harsh galleon]

Yeah idk how they didnt nerf the autoshotgun

[wary shore]

This is why the firing range isn't used for balance purposes.

V9S is still crazy good.
Agree about LH1
Lewis is way less accurate (especially in hip fire) than AKM.
Its a freaking RPG dude.
Autoshotty is not that good against someone with half decent movement.
Agree about AKM/FCAR
Mostly agree about Flamethrower.

[thin vault]

Why is is that when I purchase a new gadget (in this example the heavy gadget shield thing) that it goes away the next game?

[rocky shell]

weird glitch, happened to my friends too

[fringe sparrow]

Most of the time you won't be hipfiring with either akm or lewis anyway, soo irrelevant. Lewis is as good at range as akm...
rpg should only do 180dmg on direct hit to mid body/headshoot, not in legs and much less as splash dmg...

How is autoshotty not that good against good movement?!!? What u saying makes 0 sense.
Heavy way too strong for how much hp he has. not balanced whatsoever

[fallen shoal]

Was anyone able to get their stuff from the beta?

[wary shore]

I melt heavies constantly. Sounds like a you problem. Especially since I dont think I got killed by an autoshotty all day.

if you arent hip firing then you don't know what half decent movement is. you cant move ADS like you can hipfire. you're the guy who I just run circles around because you're ADSd and cant keep up with me.

[wary shore]

wrong chat

[fallen shoal]

Sorry

[zenith sand]

My pc is too shit for this game 😔

[fringe sparrow]

funny how everyone flexes i'm better than u when they don't even know the person on the other side. I hate to flex, but i don't really think u even stand a chance against me

[rocky shell]

what are your specs

[zenith sand]

Dogshit dogshit and more dogshit (i have the wrong graphics card 😔)

[rocky shell]

ah, i dont have the most amazing pc and it runs at a stable 80 on low

[zenith sand]

Idk how to check my specs

[rocky shell]

task manager shows most

[zenith sand]

Im on a work laptop, its runs pretty good but it has no graphics card im pretty sure

Dont take my word on that though

[wary shore]

"funny how everyone flexes i'm better than u when they don't even know the person on the other side."

followed by immediately claiming to be in the top 1% while saying heavy is OP, V9S is balanced, and the base medium gun is worse than an earned heavy gun. Fucking LMFAO. Go ask mommy for your allowance so you can get some pretty cosmetics.

[zenith sand]

Heavy is OP but light is better

[rocky shell]

v9s is still op, rpg needs to be nerfed a lil, and akm is better than lewis gun

[wary shore]

nonononono. You dont get it. @fringe sparrow is top 1% in practice range. He knows exactly how all the weapons work.

[lapis bluff]

I really hope, That Light will get the Mobility back it really needs

[rocky shell]

oh true true, i cant disrespet his majesty like that

[wary shore]

They said the sluggishness is unintentional and they are looking into it. They didn't nerf movement. (I think everything but heavy feels fine but I also max my FOV and graphics settings in every game as soon as I open it the first time. That helps a lot with the slow feeling.)

[lapis bluff]

Tyvm :3 @wary shore

[wary shore]

On a real note, if they nerf the RPG dmg they need to increase the splash range. It a noob toob. Its supposed to be a free kill on the squishiest of the squishy. The most complaints come from the Lights because they don't like being 1 shot to half the weapons but that's kinda Lights thing. Squishy but hard to squish.

[wary shore]

np

[steady verge]

Guys the urban skin Can be unlocked by leveling or is only to buy?

[rocky shell]

i mean yeah i am a light player and its why i dont like rpg, but i think it should be a larger radius with like 10 damage taken off or smth, 5 even

[fallow mason]

they need to up the one handed sword dmg three hits to kill a light is too many for how slow you swing plus 74 is a horrid number

[rocky shell]

ask tsu in #light-build-main, they can tell you how effective the sword is if used right

[prisma comet]

@Cameron weed
cameronweed is a very bad person, be careful everyone when dealing with him!

[fringe sparrow]

you're the one that flexed trying to explain your point. I just flexed back 😄
And now you go and insult me... ok dude

[rough wing]

@fringe sparrow dont worry bout him

[rocky shell]

we already had an argument in light and now we got one in heavy too, lets go

[wary shore]

I didnt flex. I said if you don't hipfire, you're the type of person I run LITERAL circles around bc you cant keep up with me while ADSd without cheating. It's pretty straight forward. And I insulted you because you claim to be top 1%. Top 1% ain't in discord talking about how the guns feel in the practice range because they know the practice range doesn't mean anything compared to live games.

But uh, it's 8am for me and I haven't been to bed yet. So you go ahead and reply and tell me all about you being top 1% and I'll be sleeping like a baby knowing that at least I didn't lie about my skill on discord. To each their own.

[rough wing]

🤓☝🏻

bros jealous cuz hes sucks and cristiano ronaldo is top 1%

[fringe sparrow]

This isn't flexing?? you're literally implying that i suck. And now that i'm lying... If you still think i'm lying add me in-game and let's do an aim challenge...
Also game just came out, ofc you not going to find many autoshotgun users. but i shouldn't need to explain this should i?

[tranquil bay]

FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW
& JOIN DISCORD
I ALSO MAKE MUSIC!

[rocky shell]

he lives rent free in your head

[strange parrot]

Thowing knives seem cool

[vernal viper]

crosshairx allowed??

[trim trench]

I mean the easiest way to take down heavies is glitch them or stun em as a light then beam em

But for some reason lights seem to hate the glitch and run of doing other things

The only good reason to pick a light is for stuff like this. Otherwise it has 0 utility for the team.

[rare imp]

@team finals you guys need to fix this ui its not too precise with the mouse when navigating screens and some screens are too zoomed in

[trim trench]

Glitch and tazer are the lights best friend but its seen too rarely

[mortal basin]

goo grenade so underrated it just needs to equip faster

[loud junco]

Y’all should check out my new TikTok video @loud junco on TikTok pretty dope edit I just made on their

[sharp flame]

I played a few rounds against them and I think they are quite balanced but I hate them so much 😂 you can't hear your opponent shooting as there isn't any gunshot and I feel like they never run out of knives as they keep spamming them. I haven't played them so idk if they have infinite knives with no cooldown or smth like that

[crystal mesa]

That is the case. Infinite with no cooldown/reload. Huge delay on the alt fire though.

[crystal mesa]

Goo Nade MVP. Trapping a light in with a heavy and watching them squirm is hilarious

[strange parrot]

I mean not hearing them makes sense... but infinite knives seem... unbalanced, qt least give it low fire rare as u "pull" out the ither knife

[crystal mesa]

They have slow travel time and a really weird throwing arc. It takes some adjustment

[strange parrot]

Them ya seem good

[crystal mesa]

Also the alt fire has like a delay before it releases and like a full 1-2 seconds before you can attack again with anything

[slender aspen]

Man, those Kunai are busted.

[sharp flame]

low rate of fire, not that much damage and slow travel time for infinite knives, seems balanced to me

[slender aspen]

Not really. People can use that logic with a shotgun but yet shotguns can be pretty broken... They do so much damage per hit that is why they're pretty op. Being able to 2 shot people with the Kunai is silly.

[strange parrot]

Then it has a really low ttk... meaning its not viable in combat

[sharp flame]

they also have the stealth factor , that's why they seem quite balanced to me

[random thunder]

可以讓大陸狗單獨伺服器嗎?世界的亂源，連遊戲都亂，垃圾之國

[sharp flame]

in english pls

[strange parrot]

Can mainland dogs be given a separate server? The world is a source of chaos, even games are in chaos, a country of garbage

Thats what it translated to

[random thunder]

Separate Chinese servers, Chinese VPN affects servers, poor quality

[sharp flame]

ok

[random thunder]

u so good

[smoky tide]

Throwing Knife is just trash or i use this wrong? too low dps

i just throw 4 knives but v95s shoot 20 bullets

[slender aspen]

The throwing knives isn't at all trash. If you land headshots it can 2 shot people.

[smoky tide]

it head multiply is just 1.5x

same as other weapons
nope, there is 2.0x weapons (like sniper/revolver)

[fast condor]

skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-get-coined-nama-tama-gif-26831859

[sharp flame]

how do you use it ? cuz I think it's not really made for like 1v1 scenarios but more for stealthy attacks such as flanking

[smoky tide]

If you use this wapeon for flanking
just use v95s
its dps is higher than TK. (240vs700)
same as Headshot multiply (1.5x)
same as range

[cedar beacon]

The throwing knives are kinda nice after you get used to them

[digital topaz]

The V9S is kinda doodoo now compared to LH1

[strange parrot]

I might stick to sword and dash, but def gonna try out throwing knife, also why is there no light build channel

[steady juniper]

No one likes lights lol

[strange parrot]

Fair enough lmao

[steady juniper]

There is one tho

[strange parrot]

Oh it isnt showing for me... weird

Had to search it

[steep canopy]

there is #light-build-main

[strange parrot]

Found it thx

[keen tendon]

glitch nade or stungun what are people finding better?

[steep canopy]

apparently stungun seems to be trash now I hear

[keen tendon]

yh apparently it dont stun no more XD

dont wanna wast my money if its no good hence why i ask which are people finding better?

can only get 1 rn

[steep canopy]

gadget or just in general (ie weapons as well)

[mortal basin]

what would you guys think if sonar nade got moved to light? they kinda butchered the weakest class on release and medium has all the most op utility on lockdown

[junior ingot]

Is the sawed off shotty good for light

[sharp flame]

I feel as they already have quite some offensive tools to work with but I don't have that much experience so I still have to play a bit more to get a better picture (and I'm a medium main so I don't typically play with the light)

[pseudo pelican]

Yup literally no point, you gotta go close to stun em and then you get hip fired gg

[graceful fiber]

why my keyboard keeps disconnecting and delaying wtf

[pseudo pelican]

I don't think it's the keyboard causing delay l, it's the servers maybe

[earnest shuttle]

Y'all think Frag Grenades should be able to make small holes in floors/walls? I think it'd be a nice change for them.

[shadow ferry]

In general, no.

[pseudo pelican]

@mortal basin Couldn't agree more, been light playing since beta. Especially with the stun gun nerf too ouchhhh

[mortal basin]

the problem i think is that they lack team utility, medium has so many options that teams will just take 2 mediums to use all of them

[sharp flame]

agreed

[shadow ferry]

Mediums could only have defib and still be the best support

[pseudo pelican]

Medium was absoulty meta in beta and so is it now, I feel like they nerfed every class other than Medium in terms of utility, guns etc

[mortal basin]

it’s so strange how heavy and medium were almost untouched and light was nerfed

[vapid inlet]

light should be nerfed more, annoying little rats, want to wallop them with hammer but they walk too fast

[celest lotus]

Were we meant to keep unlocked weapons

[sharp flame]

nah, they already die very quickly to everything, their mobility is the only way to survive

[tired eagle]

It's riculous, Light haven't been touched on the most problematic thing of the build (-4 ammo in the V9S mag is not a nerf), but gained the most powerful gadget of it's build (the camouflage grenade). Light is still by far the most powerful build in the game

edit: change and replace the taser by the camo nade and that's it, exactly as strong as in OB1

[pseudo pelican]

Literally doesn't make sense to have a light now, either 3 mediums or 2 mediums 1 heavy. Literally cannot see advantage having a light.

[mortal basin]

light has been reduced to the official class of bank it

[sharp flame]

they have incredible mobility and great offensive capabilities, they are still relevant to me, what isn't relevant is a team full of lights which I think is great cuz they can be very annoying

[pseudo pelican]

My point is a light's contribution to the team is little to nothing compared to the rest of the classes, it has always been this way since beta but atleast in the beta light could be used as a swift duelist but now with the nerfs it just makes it, for lack of a better word trash

[sharp flame]

for me, they contribute to the team by doing quick skirmishes against enemies and eliminating isolated enemies securing the path for the rest of the team, they have for me a bit of a recon role

in that regard, the sonar grenade would be usefull, and don't forget they also now have the invisibility grenade which he can use for the whole team

[steep canopy]

Love how no-one can agree on if lights are amazing or trash tier 🤣 there's no in-between haha

[sharp flame]

😂 true

[pseudo pelican]

This might be controversial, but I can go as far as to saying the only thing that saved light class in beta was the stun gun (strictly in regards to ranked tournament mode and NOT QUICKPLAY)

[steep canopy]

Possibly also how oppressive the v9s was too

[stray obsidian]

I say again lights are good as long as you’re not bad. People who complain lights are bad often just don’t know how to play them

[sharp flame]

that applies to everything bruh

[stray obsidian]

But especially lights. People will play one game, charge straight into an enemy, and than complain the class is bad

[pseudo pelican]

That's pretty vague bruh

[steep canopy]

A capable sniper is deadly, a competent SMG player is deadly, a sword player causes havoc in close quarters. There's a lot of reasons the light is decent to play, but the lower hp pool does tend to hinder in team fights

[pseudo pelican]

#💣┇weapons-gadgets message

[small gale]

Each class requires players to think about how they're playing instead of just turning off their brain and pressing keys

[golden adder]

Light just doesn’t offer enough utility for their teammates nor can hold or capture objectives easily.

They can rack up kills in fights that don’t matter and get cheesy flank kills around the objective.

Thats not much compared to all of the things the other classes bring to the table.

The last person I want helping me capture the objective last second with enemies still around is the light.

[pseudo pelican]

Exactly my point

You gotta remember we are strictly taking about Ranked tournament mode and NOT QUICKPLAY. Light is very fun in bank it but not very practical in ranked mode

[indigo fox]

That heavy shotgun and rpg need a damage nerf on heavy

[small gale]

Can't wait to screw around with the rpg again

[shy abyss]

How do I use c4 without pulling out the gadget?

[maiden pagoda]

I mean that's how you are meant to play light, flank kills, hit and run kills, you are not meant to just strafe and fight head on lol

[maiden pagoda]

Rpg is fine where it is, it's a rocket, it's supposed to do alot of damage, you one shot lightd by DIRECT impact, if you hit the floor to the side of them it doesn't one shot. You only get to use one a fight with the cooldown too

It does if you can aim, they be lethal

a full team of medium with turrets it's ridiculously ridiculous

I can barely aim so I'm a heavy main xD

Glitch grenade and tazer and you can literally handle most situations, that placed with correct positioning and you are golden, most lights die because they are always out of position

The gif go poof :0

[stray obsidian]

Glitch grenade

[stray obsidian]

I forgot I don’t have embed perms anymore

[maiden pagoda]

Rip

[golden adder]

Light if they had a gadget like the ACS from MWIII that you can throw out to capture objectives/revive teammates would instantly fix the issues with the class.

Or if they were slightly quicker at capturing objectives themselves to make up for how squishy they are.

[maiden pagoda]

I don't see any issues currently with light myself, just position right, do what the class is designed for, flanking kills, maybe scoop up a player and revive them in cover.

It's a team game, leave the objective to your bigger healthed teammates and light just focu on securing the area.

The only issue I see is having teammates that can actually help

[digital linden]

Did they buff the frag grenades?

[maiden pagoda]

Glitch grenade in to remove gadgets at the objective

[crude bison]

Personally i’m wondering how the LH1 (light’s dmr/m14) faired with the nerfs it got hit down to 300 rpm from 400, it was my favorite weapon in the open beta and im hoping it’s still good (i haven’t unlocked it yet, we will see)

[crude bison]

i don’t think so, if they did it wasn’t in the patch notes

[shadow mist]

try it in the practice arena

[crude bison]

oh true lol

i should totally do that

[golden adder]

Leaving the teamwork for the other more helpful classes is exactly why nobody wants a light on their team.

Lights are dead weight at doing anything besides getting meaningless kills that will be revived.

[crude bison]

i’ve only played one game of quick cash in 1.0 because it launched at 23:00 my time so i had to go to bed

[crude bison]

i feel like light classes can be effective disruption with glitch nades and high single target damage, when I played in a three stack we always had 1-1-1

our light player would get on flank with grapple and invis and then when we engaged he would shoot them in the back

[maiden pagoda]

This, they help by whittling down the attacking team or defending time by catching them out but idk it's just the way I see it

[tender dew]

did they nerf flamethrower

[crude bison]

if the light is considered in a vacuum i think it’s the weakest class by far, but when considered in coordinated play (not solo queue, can’t speak to that as much) I think light definitely has a strong role, even if it isn’t the strongest class

[maiden pagoda]

No idea but it shouldn't get nerfed, just backpeddle or run away then turn and shoot ^^

[crude bison]

yes #patch-notes

they removed the infinite ammo glitch reduced the damage and fire rate by a bit, and made it so it isn’t as blinding when you get hit by it

the blinding part was the really annoying one to me, the flamethrower made it impossible to see sometimes and it was really frustrating

[pseudo pelican]

With respect, In a skilled lobby this will never work

[crude bison]

we made it to diamond, so i disagree

[golden adder]

I have the complete opposite opinion.

Lights are the weakest link in a coordinated team as well as the last class you’d want to play against a coordinated team.

[crude bison]

i don’t think that it’s that useless even if it is the weakest, that’s massively exaggerated

[crude bison]

there definitely were some moments where it went pretty freakin bad, like if they had comms and a heavy, rpg goes boom

[maiden pagoda]

I try to mostly go for lights with the rpg but if I can see you that's bad on the lights part, they need a flank and get me from behind and not be close to me where I can turn and kill you quickly, best to always stun the heavy imo

[crude bison]

yeah, that was usually the goal, we would try to stun the heavy and take him out first. Nobody is perfect though so sometimes we messed up and light goes poof lol

the strat we used was glitch nade, stun gun the heavy and then focus him down then deal with the rest

[maiden pagoda]

Yup I personally try to seek the easiest target, if no lights then I'd prioritise enemy heavy with rpg and burst them ^^

[pseudo pelican]

Exactly, so ideally you'd go for medium than a light, the classes are supposed to be balanced with regards to each other but the difference in skills required to Play medium decently than to a light is massive

[crude bison]

yeah i agree, though my friends are huge titanfall players so i couldn’t keep em off light if i tried

we play to win but we aren’t too concerned with the meta, as long as it’s “good enough”

[dire trail]

is the FCAR damage even worth it with the small mag

[pseudo pelican]

Well you bois are gamers, I respect it

[calm urchin]

no

[maiden pagoda]

Personally though with all being said I prefer not to have lights on my team because I'm a pretty damn aggressive player lol

[crude bison]

maybe after the recoil changes

[maiden pagoda]

Not if you can't aim too well, I never use it lol

[stray obsidian]

Light is one of the most suited classes for agressiveness IMO

[crude bison]

i used it a fair bit as medium

ak was def better in ob tho

[maiden pagoda]

I agree, I just don't tend to get teammates that play light well, I solo que, did in the beta to diamond

[stray obsidian]

That’s fair don’t hate us till you get a good one though

[dire trail]

i just looked the DPS of the FCAR is only 10 more than the AKM on the wiki

[pseudo pelican]

Bruh climbing ranks was way too easy in beta Ihope the decreased the mmr gained per win

[crude bison]

i do attribute my generally positive thoughts on light to the fact that i don’t solo queue often

[maiden pagoda]

Anything with a bigger mag is better

[crude bison]

the fcar could melt tho when you hit shots, i think it has potential

ak is still probably better though :/

[stray obsidian]

The thing in the beta was that it was high damage but low mag size and accuracy

[pine flax]

add dual guns, plsss

[crude bison]

yeah the recoil was rough

[pseudo pelican]

Yah once the servers are on ice, cause I can definitely feel lag in hit reg

[maiden pagoda]

I'll try not to, it's hard when solo que I don't really have friends and I struggle to make them lmao

[maiden pagoda]

This would be sweet for lights I think

[stray obsidian]

yea I feel you. -lfg always exists but it’s annoying to get the right group

[crude bison]

i recommend lfg, it’s hard i agree but i’ve made some good friends to play games like tarkov with

[pseudo pelican]

Ultimately this was a great launch, surprised how quickly they got the server issue fixed, BIG WIN

[crude bison]

my irl friends hate tarkov lol

[pseudo pelican]

Excited for arena??

[crude bison]

50/50

[mellow hazel]

what do yall think of the CL-40? I really like the grenade launcher :P (medium)

[crude bison]

i actually think i’ve never used it lo

[pine flax]

Yeeeewsss

[pseudo pelican]

Same as the rest, amazing in good hands, nothing crazy

[maiden pagoda]

Autism + awkwardness + shyness makes me avoid lfg xD @crude bison

[mellow hazel]

four shots, you can shoot between reloads, threeshots mediums (five for heavy I think), has a good AoE that can get rid of lights like instantly, and it's just fun to lob grenades at people from on top of ziplines

[stray obsidian]

That’s fair I typically just solo queue also so I shouldn’t talk

[maiden pagoda]

That requires aiming ;^;

[acoustic rampart]

barely

[tired crescent]

you can't have grapple and invis?

[stray obsidian]

That’s why I use a sword

[maiden pagoda]

You can now with the invis grenade

[mellow hazel]

the aoe's giant, the aim is more like a game of angry birds, just seeing how high you should arc it

[crude bison]

yeah, i feel that, im on the spectrum but im also pretty confident, but even then sometimes it just was “scary” (i cant find the word im lookin for

[maiden pagoda]

I have bad experiences with it xD

[mellow hazel]

hmm

[crude bison]

not until the new invis bomb

[maiden pagoda]

Mostly me with sledgehammer until I found the shotgun, and the first lmg is really good too

[crude bison]

yeah i should totally try it out, and i love quake too so im kinda used to gls

[stray obsidian]

Yeah I hate going against shotgun users if they can aim

[mellow hazel]

also how's the zipline

[crude bison]

i hated the shotgun lol i know it has no range but as a medium getting one shot was not fun (1 pump, 4 shots lol)

[mellow hazel]

there were a lot of med builds saying that gas mine jump pad defrib was the best but I really like jump padding onto a zipline and then just chucking nades at people

[crude bison]

i ran jump defib sonar

with medi gun

[calm urchin]

It is an absolute for me on medium

I run gas, sonar, zipline, turret

[crude bison]

i tried it once but went back to jump pad, but i also probably didn’t give it enough of a chance

[mellow hazel]

yea I run zip, jump, defrib, heal beam

[maiden pagoda]

pat pat

[calm urchin]

Just become dps medium

youll get way farther, turret is OP escpecially if you have two of them

[mellow hazel]

I'm a battle medic trust

I chuck nades at people, space em, and just fly around the battlefield

[crude bison]

that seems fair

i loved sonar and frags too much to give that for a zip

[mellow hazel]

I dont understand nades

[maiden pagoda]

When I used medium, I used healing beam, gas grenades (super strong), defib and zipline

[tight obsidian]

Is the pistol still worth using?

[mellow hazel]

I find the pistol easier to use than the akm but I suck at beaming so

[crude bison]

what do you mean?

[mellow hazel]

They feel weird to use cuz I play cs2

[crude bison]

absolutely, hit your shots and it has the same high ttk as before, just more falloff and less ammo

[tight obsidian]

Yeah I used it for 90% of closed and open beta but heard it was merged so idk if it’s still better than the uzi

[mellow hazel]

I thought uzi was for the light

[tight obsidian]

Nerfed

[crude bison]

ohhh yeah i get that i play it too, and tarkov so i am used to a lot of different nade throw styles lol

[tight obsidian]

Both the v9s and uzi are

[crude bison]

yeah it did get nerfed, but try it to see how you feel, might be a bit ranty but play what you think is strong not the internet lol

i talk about these things because it’s fun, but i feel like people focus on meta too much

i’m sure the pistol is fine looking at #patch-notes

[maiden pagoda]

Stun gun is broken and not in a good way, it's been used twice on me this match and I was avle to freely turn

[safe ginkgo]

V9s was due for a nerf, but nerfing it's damage and its clip size is overkill imo

[crude bison]

yeah that’s the new change, are you saying that’s bad?

[stray obsidian]

It got nerfed badly

[crude bison]

it needed the nerf, as long as you can’t ads and move i think it’ll be fine, old stun gun was so stupid, even as my team abused it to diamond lol

[tight obsidian]

I’m fine with clip size, it was to much for its ttk, but damag fall off makes it lose to so many guns from other classes

[stray obsidian]

Oh yeah stun gun used to be broken but I’m still salty it got nerfed

[crude bison]

you probably just need time to adjust, or just try experimenting with maybe the lh1

[maiden pagoda]

I am indeed, it needs to stop your aim, I just turn around and get a free kill 🤣

Maybe hinder your aim for 1 or 2 seconds but not at all is silly

[crude bison]

oh yeah, i haven’t gotten to play with it yet so i can’t comment unfortunately

[tight obsidian]

Yeah tru dat I haven’t played it yet it’s downloading rn

[bitter tusk]

Anyone tried the throwing knifes yet they’re so fucking cool 😭

[crude bison]

all i know is stun gun was actually dumb ob

[crude bison]

you got hit and just die wasn’t fun at all

[crude bison]

i want to so bad they actually look amazing, gonna turn my light into a ninja lol

[safe ginkgo]

The biggest issue I see right now is the Grenade launcher, or RPG... Both YOU and your ennemies should take damage if you are in the splash zone. Right now, the one shooting the nade launcher or RPG doesn't get any damage.

[main sable]

i agree. stun gun is so bad, pvp is so stale when other teams use it. takers away uniqueness of game

[golden coral]

Is the M60 not viable in the face of the drum gun? Like It just feels really weak compared to the other, maybe the stats are othewise

[maiden pagoda]

Out of the two lmgs I use m60, more ammo is better

[crude bison]

i think they are about the same strength wise, but i don’t know after the 1.0 patch

[dire hound]

The double knives should have a buff

[golden coral]

But even with the ammo, it feels the m60 takes solid second more to kill. I can't enjoy it at all

[frail aurora]

what is the meta heavy build guys

[young ledge]

what is the best build now

[maiden pagoda]

I don't switch from auto shotgun, dome shield, explosive mines, rpg, and charge

[rare storm]

Did they increase grande launcher dmg? I got two tapped against it playing light

[maiden pagoda]

Your a light, alot of things one shot you 👀

[rare storm]

Yeah but i dont think they used to before

[maiden pagoda]

Ah oki

[rare storm]

Sledgehammers can now one shot combo lights btw

I love it

[maiden pagoda]

Sledgehammer always one shot lights with heavy attack

[rare storm]

Regular attack, stack/animation cancel it with quick melee

[maiden pagoda]

One swing of a normal attack one shots now?

[rare storm]

Yeah before it was click melee charge to fastest ttk combo now its just click melee

[maiden pagoda]

Oh lol

[stray obsidian]

I’m sorry what

[maiden pagoda]

I misunderstood him

They are not, its a free game lol

[neon sun]

Yeah they are lol 5$ for a hat?

Get real buddy

[vapid inlet]

every heavy weapon should 1 shot the little light rats scurrying about 😠

[maiden pagoda]

It's a free game, expect freemium prices

[maiden pagoda]

Just rpg them then charge a different light it's so funny to squish

[neon sun]

You're delusional

[maiden pagoda]

How else are the devs supposed to generate money to keep the game online and supported?^^

[median ice]

yo question is it just me or did all our shit from play test get wiped

[crude bison]

yeah only thing you keep is the skin for if you hit diamond and the beta battle pass skins

[median ice]

ok thx

[crude bison]

everything else is gone

there are still cosmetics tied to account level though, which is very nice, so you can get some with that for free, and there are free items in the battle psss

overall, my take on monetization right now is that it’s pretty fair for a f2p game

[half flower]

is anybody else thinking that the grenade launcher of the heavy is not good enough

[crude bison]

i hated how the grenades had a delayed explosion and don’t cause much damage

[maiden pagoda]

I felt that in open beta aswell

[half flower]

you cant even shoot down boxes

[maiden pagoda]

Can also only spend money on battlepass and save the coins

[half flower]

it would be better if they had an impact fuse

[crude bison]

yeah i unlocked it and thought “wow im gonna literally level the church on monaco”

[half flower]

[crude bison]

and then reality hit lmao gl did no damage to walls

[half flower]

jeah if you have it its just so sad

[crude bison]

sledgehammer is super fun though me and my friends would go around leveling every building that had a cash out

[sinful canyon]

buy the starter bundle

[half flower]

but the flamethrower is much butter in combi with rpg

[sinful canyon]

EVERYONE buy the starter bundle then the pass

[glossy nebula]

Speaking of buying, does the career level give multibucks at any point?

[safe ginkgo]

RPG and Grenade Launcher should do damage to those shooting it if they are in splash radius!! Please fix this, way overpowered.

[crude bison]

rpg does iirc

gls i have no idea, frags definitely do self damage too

[crude bison]

maybe, but probably not i’m just gonna get the battle pass myself cause im super hyped to play lol

[karmic oracle]

Idea I stole for rpg variants: an rpg that does increased damage to players but very little damage to buildings and a rpg that does increased damage to buildings but decreased damage to players

[maiden pagoda]

Personally I'd only ever use one, rpg for people, charge for buildings

[crude bison]

increased player damage if it isn’t direct hit would be really annoying, but a two charge low player damage high building damage one would be really fun

[crude bison]

charges are also really good as mines but yeah pretty much

[dire hound]

M60 and RPG need to be nerfed

[obsidian abyss]

The auto shotgun need to be nerfed

[dire hound]

Also true

[wide torrent]

m60 is fine

[crude bison]

m60 is fine

[obsidian abyss]

Auto shotgun is OP

[crude bison]

rpg is also… begrudgingly fine (getting one shot as light hurts)

[acoustic rampart]

yall defend whats good for yall i see in here lol

[dire hound]

Double knives is underpowered

[crude bison]

auto shotty that thing is annoying af lol

no clue about knives strength

[dire hound]

I played the whole day with them

[crude bison]

they look super cool, it might just be a skill ceiling thing, i don’t want them buffed or nerfed until people have time to get used to them

[dire hound]

The "burst" attack of it takes soo much time to get activated

[crude bison]

i’m not trying to say skill issue though btw it just seems like one of those weapons that seem weak but get really good once people get good with them

[mortal basin]

dome shield should be turned into a specialization so you can’t have 2 shields to block like 2 thousand damage because your dumb ass was in a bad position

[crude bison]

i need time myself just to see how good knives are

[crude bison]

yeah done shield can be really annoying i agree

[dire hound]

I mean, I can only shoot 2 knives per 2 seconds. While the other people can spam whatever gun they have

Idk exactly

[crude bison]

yeah that’s true, do headshots have a high multiplier?

i just genuinely don’t know

[young ledge]

is light good

[maiden pagoda]

If I'm honest the auto shotgun needs a nerf, it's all I use lol

[dire hound]

I don't know, it is very rare to get 2 headshots

[crude bison]

i’d say they are good, but they are probably the weakest class overall and very hard to play well

[crude bison]

so… kinda?

[crude bison]

but honestly, play what makes you have the most fun, if you wanna play light don’t worry about it man, all this x class too good or too weak is kinda crazy rn just play what’s fun

[dire hound]

The special crosshair that comes with this gun is minuscule, it is comparable to a point. So, it is pretty difficult to hit headshots with them

[crude bison]

is the projectile super slow as well?

[dire hound]

Not really

[crude bison]

ok that’s good

how would you buff them? i’m curious to hear because they sound like if they got overbuffed they’d be insane especially in high elo

[dire hound]

It is only good in close combat. In combats where the enemy has a mid or high distance, it is impossible to kill them.

[dire hound]

I would like it if it had at least 4 knifes

[crude bison]

to be fair outside the dmr (… and the sniper) that’s just true for light in general now that the pistol is nerfed

[inner sierra]

I'm sure someone mentioned this before... are there any attachable sights for the weapons? or is this what we get?

iron sights are not it

[dire hound]

There are no modifications in the game

[upbeat totem]

Throwing knives are they most rewarding but hardest weapon to use in the entire game

[dire hound]

That's true

[upbeat totem]

You can essentially one tap a light with one shot

[crude bison]

replacing the revolver i guess then, i love that thing 149 headshots are wild

[acoustic rampart]

its frustrating

[inner sierra]

I don't need attachments.. just a sight.. I'm blind

[upbeat totem]

I looove the revolver. Im such a sucker for the difficult weapons that pack a punch

[dire hound]

And the damage is mid, if you are fighting against a shotgunner or someone with ak, it is pretty difficult to deal with them

[upbeat totem]

I think throwing knives could use a bit of a buff to fine tune their reliability overall

[crude bison]

same lol and i’m one of those m&k players who’s obsessed with the clean flicks lol revolvers got it

[upbeat totem]

The secondary fire needs a much shorter windup so it’s a more reliable use in battle rather than a mediocre sniping mechanic. The damage should be increased slightly for how difficult the projectile is to it. It needs something to help push it forward so it’s still realistic as a weapon to learn

[dire hound]

I played with the double shot shotgun in the beta, and it was also mid like the throwable knives. But now it seems pretty good, I don't know if Embark buffed it

[proven peak]

what do people use their mouse buttons for? I feel like I'm using them effectively

[crude bison]

the mp5 and scar have sights

[upbeat totem]

I just throw my melee on one, that’s it

[crude bison]

voice chat and an ability usually

[inner sierra]

that's exactly why I only play them lol

[crude bison]

fair lol

[upbeat totem]

I think the revolver bullet should have a slightly larger hitbox, so it’s more consistent over range

[dire hound]

Did they buff the double shotgun?

[crude bison]

i don’t the iron sights are bad in this game but that’s just me, i also would be fine aiming with a dot in the center of the screen and nothing else so im not really sensitive to it

[crude bison]

not in #patch-notes so, probably not

[dire hound]

Alright

[upbeat totem]

I mean the iron sights are meant to serve as a balancing mechanic with better weapons tending to have worse scopes

[crude bison]

really?

i never noticed that at all lol, all the weapons have good sights in this game

[upbeat totem]

Yeah, that’s why the revolver has the most atrocious iron sight, it’s the only thing that keeps it from being busted af😂

It’s why they don’t give guns multiple sights. They use them as a balancing mechanic for their weapons, which I think is really clever

[humble basin]

their anyways to make the kuni's faster ? they feel rather slow and slugish

[neat flax]

Literally cannot get through a game without crashing and I'm getting no response from any community support method. Anyway I can refund my battlepass money?

[crude bison]

the only game i know with bad irons as a balance thing is hunt showdowns nitro rifle

[crimson blaze]

Wrong chat pal

[neat flax]

It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be a right chat

Get no response no matter where it's put 🤷‍♂️

[crimson blaze]

What platform are you on?

[neat flax]

Steam, I think I've fixed it, but I had to give the exe Admin Access, which I don't particularly want. So would like a more reliable and secure fix tbh

[crimson blaze]

Just want you to take into consideration that this game was announced during the game awards with an already high play count during the betas so please expect issues

It’s a rough launch but it’s getting recognized off the bat it hasn’t even been out for 24 hours and the devs are already working on it

Just give it time I guarantee it will turn out fine

[neat flax]

I played the betas, if the game was going to launch with some players having an unplayable experience, then it shouldn't have launched, I appreciate that its a fast launch, but imo this level of issue is unacceptable

[crimson blaze]

Have you ever thought it may be a hardware error

[neat flax]

I have to rebind my key bindings every game, which I also had to do in the beta, I can let those bugs slide, but a crash in 14/15 games is not okay

It's not a hardware error, I've checked all my hardware and updated all my drivers

[crimson blaze]

This game runs fine the patches are a different story cuz the movement definitely could be better but it’s really ignorant to assume that this is unacceptable

[neat flax]

Verified DirectX, steam files, windows etc, hardware and drivers are not the issue

[crimson blaze]

It’s a free to play game that you decided to spend money on this sounds like a personal issue

[latent kernel]

no

[crimson blaze]

I spent 100$ and I’m having a blast I haven’t had any issues at all

[neat flax]

Ah okay! My bad, so we can just ignore all the issues people are having because you're having "a blast"! My bad 🙂

And you say I'm ignorant 😅

[crimson blaze]

You can be a totally normal person like me and my friends and just recognize that this is the first day

[neat flax]

I recognised that during the betas

They had ample time to fix all these issues

[crimson blaze]

I went to sleep when it first came out and said lemme give it a few hours and I logged on at 4 am and it was amazing

[neat flax]

I'm glad you thought so

[harsh grail]

Does the tracking dart help my teammates see or just me?

[crimson blaze]

How do u fix server + software issues when the game wasn’t playable for a month

That’s why launches exist in the first place

[neat flax]

But its unplayable for me and likely others, but that's fine because chae and her friends are having fun

[neat flax]

No, that's why betas exist

[shadow mist]

bro you'll obv get ur money back or get what u paid for. u don't need the devs to personally respond for that to happen. just file a support ticket or whatever or go through steam

[crimson blaze]

Betas exist to test out gameplay not servers

[young ledge]

yo guys whats the best gadgets for light

[harsh grail]

wrong

[crimson blaze]

If it was for servers then it would be called a stress test

[neat flax]

You clearly know nothing about aoftware/game development 😊 thats fine, I'll find my answers from someone who does

[harsh grail]

it's for both

[crimson blaze]

I mean obviously not if I’m the only person who responded lmao

[inland fox]

It'd be cool to give everyone a shitty pistol that you can use as a backup, mostly for utility. Melee classes, especially light, have no counter to enemy mines, so you have to either waste a grenade or find another way around. Would also be nice for the sniper class

[sturdy sand]

Bad

[restive plover]

i wonder if they will reintroduce the legacy skins for the weapons if anyone remembers them from cb2

they were kinda cool with a few ewapons

[sweet mica]

Nothing in the patch notes about heavy shotgun being nerfed but sure seems like it damage wise.

[valid pond]

GREAT IDEA: With evasive dash, if comboed with rapier, everytime you hit a rapier lunge it gives you back on evasive dash, this is likely to be fun af

[solemn dome]

Hey I don’t have my open beta twitch drop rewards, do you guys know anything about that? I would go in the other channel but it’s blowing up

[subtle star]

I don't have my revolver skin 😦

[solemn dome]

Yeah that’s what I’m missing

[restive plover]

the revolver was a charm tho

[solemn dome]

It was my favorite skin too 👺👺

[steady chasm]

What's the best weapon for Light?

[unkempt monolith]

The best weapon for light is arguably the AR15

[restive plover]

oh the ozpuse recycle

[clear dust]

It was a skin, there also was a charm

[restive plover]

yeah im missing that too

[unkempt monolith]

AR stands for assualt rifle. or Adventure Rank if you play genshin.

[steady chasm]

xD

[viscid breach]

-lfg

[lethal raven]

light doesnt have an ar?

[restive plover]

ar60 gang

[analog spindle]

Throwing knifes should have no mid air inaccuracy so you can jump with them

[restive plover]

throwing knives need some tweaking cus its too sevrer sided

because of physics and also sometimes hits not registering with knives

[analog spindle]

For me I like using them but I hate this inaccuracy while jumping it’s annoying

[restive plover]

i myself idk whats going on sometimes i hit someone and it dosent register

hell i was throwing knives at a heavy shield once 5 m from me for a solid 10 seconds and half the knives didnt register

but yeah im missing my twitch drops too man

[analog spindle]

I don’t have too many issues it’s pretty responsive and quick just that one thing I wish they would change to make them more versatile cause rn you almost have to stand still for them to be accurate

[unkempt monolith]

it's interpolated using the derivative of the client side. They register accurately.

[cinder bronze]

I want to be able to remove the sights on weapons that have them, the light’s XP-i forgot the numbers gun, i really liked the iron sights in CB2

[restive plover]

yeah idk whats going on but like 50% of my throws didnt register yesterday

maybe today it will be better maybe my internet wont take a dump this time

[subtle star]

I like how steam has mixed reviews because people can't move an fov slider

[cursive breach]

yo i just got 1k gems from one game is that normal???

[charred compass]

thats disgusting. this is the best game 2024 besides Nighting Gale

my Beta Skins havent registered on my account yet either and i chatted on the website and nothing happened...

[astral sand]

they said that beta skins won't stay? everyone got those free coins just to look at the new skins

[young ledge]

what’s the best gadgets for light

[dawn dock]

glitch trap

[charred compass]

no the Battle Pass Beta Skins i Unlocked are permanant and havent applied. its their first post.

[buoyant hawk]

stungun#

[dawn dock]

glitch trap, glitch grenade is what i meant

[young ledge]

is the vanishing bomb good

[unkempt monolith]

its good. It lets you see enemies but enemies cant see you.

[pulsar sage]

yoo what u guys running for light

[unkempt monolith]

use stun, ar15, and cloak

[pulsar sage]

ar15?

[steel loom]

cloak, flash, stungun, glitch, and for the weapon most people run pistol or mp5

[solar sedge]

best loadout for heavy after patch?

[hidden cloak]

guys one question, the things I bought in the beta for coins, I no longer have them, why?

[wise solar]

I think that was all just for beta - they gave everyone urrency for free to try but now you have to pay i think

[hidden cloak]

ohhh okey okey thanks

[unkempt monolith]

your welcome.

[young ledge]

tthe xp 54 is pretty good for light

[clever pilot]

yes

[unkempt monolith]

its been nerfed

[cinder bronze]

there were certain rewards in the beta that you could keep (the battlepass and ranked rewards)
#1169229124028616774

[cinder bronze]

I just want to take the sight off of it, i preferred the iron sights tbh

[hidden cloak]

So the skins that were purchased with real money in the beta will no longer be available today?

[worthy moat]

Buff the vanishing bomb radius please

[warm lion]

well you never actually spent real money

[pseudo owl]

Lmao

[warm lion]

i'm not wrong 😏

[unkempt monolith]

Yeah bro, cash desposits. paypal doesnt exist in my world.

[cinder bronze]

where is all the money i stole from cash outs, what do you mean it isn’t real, i thought the finals was a gambling game

[narrow oxide]

?

[young ledge]

what is the mp5

[cinder bronze]

XP-54, based on the MP5

[cinder bronze]

it was a joke

[shadow oriole]

@maiden trellis yeah read the patch notes

[raven bobcat]

how do i put the weopon skins on ?

there is no equip button i cant tell if its on or not

[stiff galleon]

The crosshair shake is pretty bad right? Bullets go straight to mid screen tho am I wrong?

[twin swift]

hover over the weapon in equipent and a yellow button with customize writen on it should appear bewlow it

[dusky violet]

You have to go to character then press customize then hover over the guns and it will be in yellow below the gun saying customize

[raven bobcat]

oh i see thank you wow I was confused

[ocean sundial]

Last I check bullets come from center of screen regardless of what your optics say.

[analog pasture]

Gas is so OP, how do I clear it off a point?

[tranquil atlas]

Fire 🔥

[analog pasture]

but then fire also blocks me....

[lucid oyster]

Smoke

[burnt jetty]

the guns kill way to slowly

[karmic ledge]

So can someone explain to me what the reserve is? When is it used, how is it used, and is it worth making a good loadout?

[hazy yew]

BRING BACK THE OB GOO GUN, IT DID NOT DESERVE ITS CHANGES.

heavy had a movement option, it was silly, it was creative, and it had clear weaknesses and they still nerfed it!

go ahead, try to make a spiderweb yourself, they removed heavy's best movement tech and one of the most silly fun things in the entire game

[golden river]

Does anyone know if the new ak tactical reload in the battlepass is slower than the default reload?

[strong wolf]

Skill issue

[worthy flint]

Same thought I miss OG Goo gun was super fun.

[wise pivot]

Got damn these throwing knives are ass

Normal attack does like no damage compared to how hard it is to land and the multi shot takes too long to charge and can’t be held

[hidden violet]

I 2 hit a heavy with it

[wise pivot]

Well that’s bullshit lol

It takes 3 hits to kill a light

[compact hamlet]

did they nerf the m11

[cerulean sun]

its kinda like gambling but you can practise it

[wise pivot]

I think once you charge the right click for the knives you should be able to hold it

So charge me up before a fight and use em when it starts

[cerulean sun]

maybe not hold just delay for like a second to use then, makes it primarily for peeking

[wise pivot]

Well the issue is how long it takes to charge

It takes the same amount of time if not longer to charge than the sledge hammer right click

[crimson slate]

Throwing knives def have a skill curve

[wise pivot]

Ye I agree they should have difficulty to use but it seems way to much rn

[fringe sparrow]

PLEASE, nerf autoshotgun + rpg already!

[hollow bloom]

AK needs to get reverted back to beta

It feels like absolute crap now

[fringe sparrow]

i think it's fine and i'm ak main. I honestly think it's balanced now, before u could beam from across the map

[restive plover]

What?

[hollow bloom]

Same but it was much better in the Beta feels kinda wonky

But at the same time I don't know how much it is the animation or just how movement currently is

[restive plover]

Did they nerf recoil? Aiming feels a whole world better (On controller atleast)

[fringe sparrow]

ak has recoil and should have recoil. Flex, diamond ak skin + good game 😄

the only thing that's absolutly descuting is heavy. I swear of those 5 deaths i got killed 3 times by heavy with shotgun

[fierce tapir]

That 11k healing carry

[hollow bloom]

Was Diamond as well but the point is I can't tell if the way movement is currently is making me think the AK is bleh or if its fine and the way I am moving with how movement is right now is causing me to think this

[fringe sparrow]

I just roamed around 😄 not even playing with team most the time. It was not pre made

[restive plover]

Personally I don't think movement feels that much worse but they should probably fix it, hopefully soon

[fringe sparrow]

feels fine to me. actually less delayed

[fierce tapir]

Movement just feels different and even though ak was nerfed, the buffed fcar is still rough imo

[hollow bloom]

Naw movement right now is glidey as hell

[fringe sparrow]

scar beams. But y i prefer running akm. Can kill multiple with 1 clip 😄

[hollow bloom]

Fcar needs 5 more bullets you give it 5 more bullets that gun would be a A Tier weapon

[crimson slate]

I liked beta movement

[hollow bloom]

Even Embark said that movement is jacked right now

[fringe sparrow]

honestly heavy just needs a big nerf. Like why does lewis have about the same ttk as akm, more bullets and u also can have 350hp + rpg + shields?!?!
why is heavy shotgun soo strong in the first place??! he's a TANK!! NOT DPS

[fierce tapir]

FCAR is good if you control first few bullets and then the recoil is easy. But yeah lack of ammo is the problem when the AK can easily kill 2 with a single mag.

[hollow bloom]

Lewis gun isn't the issue the autoshotty is

[fringe sparrow]

agreed, but if you think about it, it's also not fair too have all that

[hollow bloom]

Like its actually stupid that they have a autoshotty with 350 hp

[hollow swallow]

I wish there was an option to get rid of the lines around the center of the crosshair..

[fierce tapir]

I mean, once you know a heavy is using an auto shotty you just change how you play and it's easy

[hollow bloom]

And more so a skill that you can gap close to cover or drop a domie

[crystal folio]

aim better

[fringe sparrow]

not rly. when it's coordinated team and knows what they0're doing. You shot from far, he just relies on team heal + shield...

[fierce tapir]

I have around 150 hours and never had an issue with the shotty. But I play with a very well coordinated team always

[hollow bloom]

This a 3 stack using coms will countermand any change in approch ie pocket healed more heavily or light goes to flank and harass to get you out of postion for a isolated kill

[fierce tapir]

I will agree the shotgun is a little overtuned

[fringe sparrow]

i can get the kills of them but like feels i'm getting robbed. Like i'm playing 10x than them but just get 180rpg + shotgun
Like feels bad to get killed by no skill broken shiit

[hollow bloom]

They nerfed the fuck out the taser to

Thank fuck

[fierce tapir]

Stun gun is still good imo if the light runs away after doing it, otherwise he is going to get hipfired to death lol

V9S + stun gun in beta was brutal

[fringe sparrow]

rpg should only do 180 on direct body hit(even then i still think should do 150-160 max). Hitting the ground close to u or legs shouldn't do 180.

[fierce tapir]

I think rocket should do less damage to people and do crazy destruction to buildings

Everyone just opens fights with a rocket at your feet..

[fringe sparrow]

y, don't need to be accurate at all, super ez to hit, free kill. Fun...
like there's no outplay whatsover if you get pushed by heavy with rpg

I'm glad they at least nerfed flametrower. It was not as op as shotty but holy is was annyoing, especially consdering the insane AoE and not needing to aim

[neat arch]

yeah rpg needs to be more destruction related, and knives need buff

[clever ledge]

I think there is a bug with skins not saving on your gun

[mortal basin]

yeah i change from living to dead

[mortal basin]

you do it in contestants menu not equipment

[clever ledge]

thats where ive been doin it. I'll unequip charms, change gun skin. Then load into a match and nothing is saved

[hot pasture]

All I want for Christmas is 2 more bullets in the fcar. Thank you.

[wanton sable]

does the motion sensor work????

[frank aspen]

Anyone know why i dont have anything i had from the beta?

[undone heath]

because this isn't the beta

[kind plank]

Everyone got reset the only keep able things are from battle pass and there working on a fix for that error

[frank aspen]

I dont even think i got the things from the battlepass

So i have to unlock everything like guns and contestants?

Nvm i have the battle pass things

[stray slate]

I’ve been shot dead on with a rocket launcher and taken no damage though lol

[autumn hamlet]

V9S is still OP

[glossy nova]

I’m a big fan of just using destruction stuff, like rpg, frags, the heavy charge ability and sledgehammer and just destroying everything

[thorn sage]

more e

[ocean fulcrum]

The motion sensor actually works now lol

[mental sable]

what does gadget and weapons leveling do?

[verbal valley]

Skins.

[thorn sage]

more e

more e

[small ocean]

I just bough a skin to the akm but i cant put it on

[stone bronze]

the gadgets look awesome boys

[thorn sage]

more e

[burnt jetty]

Naw yo the ttk is jsut slow

[desert vault]

This ain’t cod bro

[eager owl]

Explainer videos for skills could also do so for gadgets and weapons.

[thorn sage]

more e

[burnt jetty]

Yo and the ttk is jsut slow

[desert vault]

As someone else said — just hit more shots. If ttk was lower light would die too quick

[burnt jetty]

Yo it takes like 20 seconds to even kill some one

[restive plover]

Hi, from where do they have diamond AK?

[desert vault]

See that just isn’t true lmao.

[static lodge]

more like 5 seconds, if you are fighting a heavy and not hitting headshots.
personally I think ttk is actually perfect rn.

[static lodge]

Last season diamond rank reward

[restive plover]

I think it's a diamond pistol for that

[static lodge]

Nop, cb1 was pistol, cb2 was a sledgehammer and ob was an AK

[thorn sage]

e

[night matrix]

Cb1 wasn’t pistol it was the smg

[thorn sage]

e

[static lodge]

oop mb

[night matrix]

The v9 is this seasons diamond skin :)

Also known as the pistol

[thorn sage]

E

[arctic bear]

https://tenor.com/view/deus-heart-love-baby-gif-16974943

[storm pawn]

Meh, there is litterly a bug that you can't shoot anymore after a fast switch between your weapon and gadgets, you have to die so you can shoot after next respawn

[wooden bison]

I feel like the dagger should make the cloaking device better

[thorn sage]

E

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E

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[supple gate]

I feel like the grenade launcher should explode on impact for heavy and have it do self damage to make up for the buff, right now it's basically useless

Thoughts?

[nova jolt]

What's this channel for?

Nvm i read the desc

[rough spire]

I CANNOT play without dash, breach charge is also quite necessary. Then M11 & stun gun

My final gadget is always a question, but I like flash as it can be used defensively to escape 3v1's and offensively.

[nova jolt]

I love being basic and just going with Medium, Revolver, Jump-pad, Desfilebrator and Goo Grenade, it's so good idk why

[thorn sage]

E

[nova jolt]

Oh, and heal gun too

[thorn sage]

No

[rough spire]

@thorn sage please don't spam

[wooden bison]

The dagger is really fun but it’s really hard to sneak up on people with it even when I’m using cloaking device

[tame thicket]

Is there any way to get your stuff back from the beta test or is that all gone?

[glossy crow]

why would we be allowed to keep stuff from a beta

[strong flax]

Hey! Do you guys can apply weapon skin ?

[ripe schooner]

LASER

[sick temple]

wow the flamethrower is really bad

I don't remember it being this bad in the beta

[hardy dust]

it got some of the hardest nerfs

[sick temple]

like I'm pretty sure the AK out damages the flamethrower at its intended range

[hardy dust]

I think it does

[main tusk]

Yeah i think shottys stayed the same so no matter 🤷‍♂️

[sharp ibex]

real quick is there a way to earn multibucks like in beta

[main tusk]

No just the battlepass rn

[sharp ibex]

dam

[mellow hazel]

anyone know the term "blocking damage" in this game? cuz it says I've done 3.2k/5k and idk how to do it

[hardy dust]

probably shields?

[mellow hazel]

I havent used any

[hardy dust]

weird, I have no clue then

[tame thicket]

Some games do it just wondering

[spark salmon]

shields

[mellow hazel]

haven't used shield ever

[spark salmon]

i was reading the rest and saw that, it might be a gadget

[rough sun]

E

[still salmon]

Hey so do you have your beta items or no?

[sharp ibex]

no it didn't transfor

[hardy dust]

only bp stuff

[radiant shuttle]

my bp stuff didnt transfer

my name did, but not my bp things

even td items are gone for some reason. idk

[frank parrot]

Turrets need a lil nerf dawg they shoot too fast and need an overheat or something cause dudes be winning fights just by using em while they have trashbag aim

[hardy dust]

Try relaunching, same thing happened for me

[hardy dust]

They really don't, there's lots of ways to play around them. The heal is much stronger

[marsh heron]

you should have seen cb1 turrets

[frank parrot]

Having a ton of ways to play around em doesn't mean they don't need a little nerf considering they're stupid easy to get kills with

[hardy dust]

Well, they're not stupid easy to get kills with

They're easy if you're stupid tho

[hardy arrow]

they dont need nerfed

[nocturne elk]

They don't need a nerf they do like 30 DPS and aren't nearly as op as heal with defibs

[hardy arrow]

turrets mad trash

[nocturne elk]

They need to be removed, imo they are either going to be useless or just so so unfun to play with/against. They just don't feel like they have a good spot in the game, especially when neutral turrets in Vegas exist and are basically giving the player similar challenges to face

[hardy dust]

No?

[empty mirage]

fscar is kinda dogshit

[hardy arrow]

I think they are just balanced if your playing ranked it can work but heals are dominant making them trash

[shy sigil]

glitch grenade should go off if it comes in contact with a shield surface so you don't have to pray the bounce doesn't screw you over

[rugged tundra]

get rid of stun gun

[maiden pagoda]

It's not even good they need to rever it to ob

[distant umbra]

wasnt an issue before this update 😒

[slim solar]

Not gonna lie, L take. Turrets are literally borderline useless in terms of getting kills, their main purpose is to support and distract. So yeah using them in a fight to 2v1 is the entire purpose of a turret. I place turrets when doing a cash out so people will give their location away by trying to destroy it first

[frank parrot]

Cool

[steep spire]

does anyone have the OSPUZE Revolver skin? I don't have it after I unlocked it

[nocturne elk]

Stun gun revert is like trying to speed run killing this games playerbase

[fallow obsidian]

GUYS WHY I FEEL LIGHT IS NERFED?

[sharp plover]

Bring Back Stun Gun!

[hexed wyvern]

stun gun users are scum i don’t want them in the game

nerf the stun gun to the ground

[lone harbor]

Of course you will be hating on the stun gun, especially if it counters your gameplay well. Currently with the stun gun nerfed there is barely any value to play with lights. I started enjoying other classes more but is light now even viable? That's the question.

[compact summit]

Stun gun is ass lmao. It was the only good part about light before and now the good part of it is completely gone. Meanwhile the meta strats literally got buffed

[hexed wyvern]

🤓🤓🤓

[sonic oak]

stun gun duration should be nerfed ig

the beta stun gun was too much leverage for lights to get hits in without retaliation from the enemy

[maiden pagoda]

The srun gun needs to go back to open beta where you couldn't really aim much, now its still a free kill, just turn and kill lol

[small widget]

lowkey agree, lights are straight up the weakest class and it's not even close now

[maiden pagoda]

It is ass right now, I just kill everyone stunning me lol

[sonic oak]

man light build supremacy gone no more, i mean did it really exist lol

[compact summit]

Def not. Light was the worst class and it wasn't even close. Now they nerfed the only two things that were even close to medium and heavy and got nothing in return

[sonic oak]

but can we all agree light WAS the most "fun" build of the bunch, having 2 movement based specs, but yea i guess the risks of playing light (dying quickly cause of low hp) doesn't really make any good moments against the other 2 builds

[compact star]

This might be a dumb question but how do I equip the grenade launcher as my primary on Xbox? Lol

[half parrot]

If the light can aim it's still a pretty easy kill. Been stunned quite a few times and have been killed more times than I've killed them back. I play light and med mainly.

[maiden pagoda]

I have yet to die from the stunner lol

[half parrot]

I find it hard to kill them if they don't just barrel stuff you like most people do

[sonic oak]

does mouse sensitivity affect the camera movement slow when stunned?

[light otter]

bruh they didnt need to nerf the v95 so much like that, they couldve just made the mag size 8, imo

[sonic oak]

what they do to the v9s now?

[small widget]

i still main light and will probably not play anything else, i still pull 15+ kill games with evasive dash and double barrel on the regular

even though you're lowkey throwing playing light lol

[sonic oak]

i just know you literally do the hit and run tactics with that loadout lol

[small widget]

yea lol or break ankles

[sonic oak]

dash in pop dash out, and if its a heavy break their ankles tryna find you dashin around them

[small widget]

just sucks cause kills on a light aren't the problem you can still absolutely frag out, the problem is lights don't have much to help win games. Glitch grenade is the best thing we have for that

[sonic oak]

i mean yea the whole kit for light builds pretty much just cater to themselves, the next thing a light can really do to help the team is to reach/cashout the objectives quickest

it's pretty much the server sweatlord's wet dream of a loadout and stats to begin with

[small widget]

i'll main light till the end! lol

[light otter]

invis or dash which one is better in yalls opinion?

[lone harbor]

depends on your playstyle

[gentle rover]

its been one minute without The Finals and im starting to lose my sense of identity... when i close my eyes all i hear is the chanting of the crowd and the buzzer of the cashout being stolen. i cant last much longer without The Finals, i am going insane

[maiden pagoda]

Why not both? Use the invis grenade ^^ although I only use cloak

[jovial summit]

j

[lime bone]

dagger or sword

[wintry violet]

Why i cant play?

[small widget]

dash is by far my fav but alot of people put in work with invis

[sonic oak]

me personally its gonna be sword, the range you need on dagger is too much of a risk when people can just turn around really fast and tap you, sword's dash gives you a much more needed burst of damage that can kill med/lights really quickly

[lime bone]

I'll shall grind for that then

[lime bone]

should I go dash or invis with it?

[sonic oak]

if you ever played sea of thieves its really similar to that

[sonic oak]

again, it depends on ya playstyle but dash melds with sword so much easily so you can close the gap on enemies

[lime bone]

so hard to main one style just loving med shotgun

[sonic oak]

if you got the time you can also do the tf2 spy loadout with invis and dagger, could get ya key picks on the way

[sonic oak]

hey man its your game your choice

[runic hazel]

Buff light class when

[faint zodiac]

Heyo. I hope a mod or Game Dev sees this. (Press X to Doubt)
I loved The Finals when I played beta and really only have 2 complaints now with official release.
1: I have my own personal opinions about battlepasses and in game currency. Even if its Uber Grindy, In came credits (not VR's) should be earnable. This applies to all games.
2: TTK used to be MUCH lower in the Beta. I get that it's a game that encourages teamwork, but taking almost the entire 36 rnd mag to get 1 elim, its ridiculous. Granted, I didn't expect CoD speed TTK. But what it is now, makes us not want to play.

[stone ember]

best heavy wep?

[lone harbor]

shotgun is strong if you can do the rat strat :P ie. sit in buildings ready to deny and keep yourself close quarters

[fickle holly]

i really like AK it feels real reliable

[river ibex]

m4tex am i wrong to think that the m60 recoil is really high compared to most other weapons in the game

[lone harbor]

Honestly I never played with it, I always prefered the hammer or the shotgun

[river ibex]

oh, for me i feel like bullet 1-30 recoil so high that in close combat you lose because it takes way to long for the recoil to calm down

[lone harbor]

Hammer is fun, one right click to delete a wall.... or a light

I'm still experimenting with gear after all the tweaks. Light definitely doesn't feel the same now, it's not as fun. Finding some pleasure with supporting characters like mediums.

I played a little with m60 and lewis gun in OB but remember putting it away pretty quick

[lone harbor]

Weird, because the description on the weapon says "Short-range, high rate-of-fire weapon; dominate enclosed spaces."

I mean high recoil is generally for the close quarter engagements

[river ibex]

then why does it get outclassed by every other short range weapon

[lone harbor]

it's about the playstyle, sure, some weapons will be inferior to a lot of different weapons but you need to learn how to embrace them

You have a large mag, that's something you could go about "exploiting"

[stone ember]

M60 PROLLY WORST GUN IN THE GAME

[river ibex]

the problem is the horizontal recoil being so prominent that in close combat if people move side to side alot hiting them is going to be very difficult, but that might be a skill issue though

for me i find mid range m60 being more powerful than in close range but that could just be me being bad

[lone harbor]

I think it's mostly about being a heavy rather than a main fragger, you know? You could go with other weapons still to have a higher chance.

ie secure cashouts, fortify, deny attacks is what I mean by "being a heavy"

[hazy yew]

Funny haha hammer.

[leaden leaf]

Hey everyone, I have a suggestion for the stun gun as I don’t see it as a viable option for the light class, especially as they heavily rely on their movement to stay alive. Here are my thoughts:

Bring back a sensitivity debuff but have it affect classes a little differently.

Light: When using the stun gun on a light class, have a sensitivity of 5% as they have the least HP and also rely on their movement.

Medium: When using a stun gun on a medium, apply a 15% debuff to sensitivity as they have 100hp more than lights, this will give the lights opportunity to use their movement to their advantage as they gave 100 hp less than a medium class.

Heavy: When using the stun gun, apply a 25% movement debuff as they have 200 hp more than a light and it is extremely difficult/nearly impossible to kill a heavy as a light due to the tremendous difference in hp.

Note: this is just a suggestion as I believe it is necessary to have all classes as a viable option and I don’t see the light class being used as much as mediums and heavies due to the disadvantages they have regarding hp, now that the stun gun has been debuffed as well as the cloak, the light class isn’t a viable option for competitive play.

[bronze crescent]

whts the best light weapon?

[wooden forum]

dagger

[maiden epoch]

Please fix the goo gun I want to bridge again

[blissful belfry]

You can kill a heavy in 14 bullets with a pistol

[leaden leaf]

The TTK with a pistol compared to any heavy weapon is incomparable.

[stone ember]

double barel can oneshot heavys????????????????

[blissful belfry]

True but if your better

[leaden leaf]

Just a suggestion to make the playing field more even and we’ll rounded.

[young ledge]

whats the best build for light

[devout dirge]

is it just me or is the r.357 inaccurate with its ads scope. I feel like I miss often even on still targets when I line up the scope

[rugged tundra]

invis is so dumb

[devout dirge]

just blow up the room, invis wont help them then

[rugged tundra]

you legit cant see them its stupid

[sharp mantle]

I love invis

[rugged tundra]

ya cause youre the gay one who uses it

they need to get rid of stun gun and nerf invis

[sharp mantle]

Yes

[rugged tundra]

lmao nice

[sharp mantle]

I don’t use stun gun that guns ass

[devout dirge]

tbh invis isnt that big of a deal, they lose all of their movement abilities and it gives them almost the same advantage as grappling into a room vs being invis and hiding in the corner.

slightly better suprise for way worse movement

[leaden leaf]

Stun gun was OP in beta but now it’s ass

[sharp mantle]

Yea I never liked it even during the beta

[leaden leaf]

Light is basically useless now

[spiral ravine]

no it cannot

[small widget]

can still kill tf out of people but yea if you're trying to win it's rough

[leaden leaf]

If you compare the TTK between a light vs a heavy & a light vs a medium, the light class is at a huge disadvantage. Having debuffed the pistol, cloak and stun gun, the only things that were viable for a light to get kills and make plays (as the light is a heavily movement based class) they are pretty much useless now other than the fact that they can get to objectives quickly. As for combat there’s little to no purpose to use them and with this being a competitive FPS that’s the whole point.. combat. From a competitive point of view, why should anyone choose a light over a heavy or medium now that the only things they can use along side their movement are now nerfed?

[small widget]

oh trust i know i main light exclusively

also movement didn't actually get nerfed, they just synced up the animations

[leaden leaf]

I think they way they had the stun gun previously was a little too overpowered but it just needed some tweaking not a total nerf.. I think it should affect classes differently like a previously stated above, you know?

[small widget]

i would of just increased the cooldown of it to be honest

just so we can't have it ready for almost every single engagement like in beta

[prisma horizon]

Why can't some props be used immediately?

[leaden leaf]

Not worried about the movement so much tbh more the utility that was nerfed

[small widget]

kind of wish they would reduce the cooldown of dash and grapple a bit

and pls make it so we can't straight up get one shot by rpgs lol that shit is so cheesey

[leaden leaf]

This is viable option or the sensitive debuff increases based on your hp level? Like 350 would be affected more, 250 less and so on

Like the debuff should be a % based on the players current hp maybe?

[small widget]

yeah somethin, i don't even bother with it at all. I didn't use it much in beta but now i have literally no reason to use it

[leaden leaf]

I hope they figure out a workaround for it because unless you’re just trying to have fun and get clips, light isn’t an option for competitive play rn

[terse storm]

I hope they add in a gamemode where you can mix and match abilities and weapons from different classes, I think it'd be really fun if it isn't too much of a hassle to program

[hollow bloom]

So what do you guys think if they switched the autoshotty to the Medium and gave the Chinalake to the Heavy

[small widget]

please don't lol

[terse storm]

Why?

[hollow bloom]

Would balance it out since the Autoshotty is kinda overtuned and in the hands of someone who is 350 HP kinda cracked

[terse storm]

I mean I don't think the guns needs to be swapped to a different class I just think the damage numbers need to be tweaked a bit

[hollow bloom]

No but it was just a intresting thought

[terse storm]

Yeah, it would be quite goofy if medium had autoshotty

[sharp ibex]

wait is there no chair emote like in beta

[sonic oak]

bonk machine

[hollow bloom]

Also I hope they add a ump for the Medium

Or like a Tavor Carbine

[mortal warren]

I dont know where else to put this so hopefully this works but i feel like the throwing knife needs some more range the maps are so big and people are able to shoot quite far with most guns but maybe im just bad and need more practice witch im going to go get lol

[hollow bloom]

Naw the TKnives are mos def a close range weapon with a skill cieling that is high

[mortal warren]

ill keep that in mind and keep trying :) thank you

[hollow bloom]

Ya buddy

[quartz burrow]

Quite surprised they didn't remove tracking dart, does anyone actually use them when Sonar grenade and the Sonar ability exist?

[cloud shadow]

fcar or akm for medium

both are very good I cant decide which is better tho

[severe vector]

they're about even

[fair star]

I feel like the shotgun is better for mediums

[severe vector]

SCAR is more damage for less bullets and AKM is more bullets for less damage, fairly even

[cloud shadow]

the shotty is awful unless you get on top of someone the only good shotty is heavy

[fair star]

I’ve been using it but it doesn’t feel awful to me, maybe it’s just personal experience

[still anvil]

Yeap, SCAR really feel like that

[cloud shadow]

ive played about 50 games and see no one running it and when they do they have at most 3 kills

[wooden forum]

heavy shield is so op 😴

[still anvil]

In my beta opinion fcar is better, but I don't know what situation is on relies version

[cloud shadow]

idk if they tweaked them i think they are the same

[shy gale]

please devs add melee visual effects or melee trails to the weapons i wanna be a melee main and play this game

[spring rock]

Don’t want to bash your idea but that is the stupidest idea I have ever heard and it would look like dog shit

[shy gale]

no bro it would look so good

[spring rock]

In what way

[still anvil]

If it's so, I prefer to play fcar for myself, but yesterday I played akm and it was also very nice, so take what you like, but I think fcar better, may be not much, but better

[foggy citrus]

well i'd love to tell y'all.. im banned tho
valv- embark, please fix TFLA0004

[shy gale]

https://tenor.com/view/slash-sword-slash-gif-18633427

[shy gale]

most games with melee weapons or combat have a blur on the weapon or a trail when they swing its satisfying

[worn plover]

Flamethrower feels weak AF but maybe it's just me

[still anvil]

++, really can't play with it

[shy gale]

is it ever gonna happen

[hollow bloom]

Ok dead ass they need to fix the amount of VRs.... Like its WILDLY inconsistent I can top frag get tons of support revives ect and get 80 then I can do complete dog shit and get 180 like wtf...

[cloud shadow]

sounds like a skill issue

[still anvil]

🫡

[molten raft]

there is gadget???

can i add scope to my akm?

[cloud shadow]

no

[cloud shadow]

?

[hollow bloom]

Your comment was pure tism...

Holy pukeola

[cloud shadow]

if you were better then you wouldnt be complaining about doing bad

[hollow bloom]

What does VRs being inconsistant have anything to do with being bad and or Skill Diff.... You are actually borderline go back to the kids table and take your meds

[cloud shadow]

skill issue

[hollow bloom]

K so you offer nothing of value to the topic cool

I silence tards

[cloud shadow]

you asked why you played bad and i told you

[shrewd warren]

I would love if focal scaling would be only on maginified optics
or like toggle it per weapon or gadgets

[spring rock]

And why would the finals 2 melee weapons need that

[hollow bloom]

Tbh I want them to get rid of the auto target for melee or at least give us a toggle option

[cloud shadow]

get good

[shy gale]

The swing animation is incomplete

[halcyon trench]

I have an idea for a gedget

Gadget

[cloud shadow]

what is it?

[undone token]

What’s a good gadget for light

[wise sedge]

I keep getting crash TFGE0015 anyone know what that is?

[jagged folio]

can anyone do the arena carriables quest?

[halcyon trench]

A trip wire that a medium character can use

[bitter prism]

is the double barrel bad or am i?

[fleet thorn]

AKM has 80% larger mag but only about 20% lower dmg than the FCAR make it make sense

[stone stump]

having trouble with that one myself , i have been trying to snipe people with the red exploding cansiters , suggest you do the same

[summer nova]

we need a gadget that absorbs toxic gas or put out fire its annoying to not being able to capturer in the gas/fire

[summer nova]

or an ability

and the sword is overpowerd asf

[mortal warren]

probably a good thing lights are so squishy then they die fast rip

[royal python]

Give secondary weapon and it fixes

[tall raft]

buff throwing knife right click damage

i get more value with the sniper rifle in close quarters combat

throwing knives are useless

[stone ember]

does the mgl32 still suck?

[restive plover]

Olá

[elfin mesa]

not having a secondary weapon feels off

[old marsh]

fire kills gas, smoke kills fire, and gas kills smoke.

[small widget]

double barrel > all

[cloud shadow]

wrong

[small widget]

nope, factual

[velvet lake]

i think the sniper taking more than two headshots to kill a medium build at just inbetween medium-close range is pretty bs ngl

[tall raft]

yeah the sawed off is amazing and the whole point is to shoot it point blank, which the light can do with all that mobility

[tall raft]

did you test this in the training range?

[velvet lake]

im currently in a match, but im about to after it

[tall raft]

playing with these throwing knives more and i think the strat is playing similar to the sawed off, you need to play aggressively and hit everything in their heads, use mobility and invis to get in range and then quickly escape, hit and run tactics

[restive plover]

do you throw the throwing knife?

[bronze crescent]

You

[restive plover]

hmmmmmmmm

[bronze crescent]

Skill issue

[cloud shadow]

i havent even used it

[tall raft]

are throwing knives throwing knives only when they are thrown and just knives when they aren't being thrown, or are they always throwing knives even when they aren't being thrown