🌍┇maps

[sleek swallow]

let me destroy it 😈

[cursive pike]

I don't know if it would fit the game well, but what if we had a map where the contesants were shrunk down and we played in an arena the size of a house. Like, since the game is VR in canon, we aren't exactly limited to size? So we could be in a sponsor boardroom that has been set up with notebook ramps and shoebox buildings. Not a super original thought but I just wanted to throw it out there anyway.

[fresh drum]

Idk I think it’d fit the game well, I really like the idea too. Like we already have ufo attacks and kitchen cutlery melees and animal pajama outfits I think having an equally wacky stylized map would be pretty cool actually

Not necessarily an arena but I’d like to see some new events, like maybe a flooding event where water or maybe lava slowly starts rising and people are forced to play on roofs and play high ground, though that might slow down the pace of the game a bit too much

[rare wing]

matchmaking concept

a few maps will be randomly selected to be available
every available game mode will be randomly assigned to these maps
(more players in a mode -> more representation in the map pool, example, lots of players in QC = 3 maps, few people in TA = 1 map)
the maps and modes will be swapped around every x minutes

potential additions:
-clicking on a map will que you up for any game mode on that map
-clicking a game mode will que you up for any map where the mode is currently available (close to how it is now)
-if a mode has lots of players, so more than 1 map, but it heavily leans towards 1 of the available maps (maybe a 70:30 distribution) all players playing the less used map will receive a small xp/vr/fans gain boost to reward them for keeping matchmaking short

just wanted to drop this here for some feedback and improvement ideas before i post it
what do yall think?

[cursive pike]

I like that they are trying out events via world tour. My favourite so far have been the headhunter we just had, and the one where eliminated contestants dropped those heart bombs.

[fresh drum]

Yeah honestly I’m not sure where this games heading in regards to whether it’s focusing on a casual experience or a hyper competitive one but in the case of it being casual I think more wacky crazy stuff being added would be cool

[fresh drum]

I like this idea, good call with the xp boost on less used maps but I wonder how that’d be calculated/adjusted. Like wouldn’t players just be incentivized to go on the least played map, making it the most played, making the xp boost go to another? How would you get around that?

[cursive pike]

If they wanted to remove a selection of the more unserious events for comp but leave the wild stuff in qc or world tour that would be fine by me.

[rare wing]

in theory yes, but as soon as the map reaches "acceptable" saturation of players, the bonus would stop being applied to new matches, so it would hover just around that mark
even if it were a problem, it doesnt really need fixing because it doesnt harm anyone
but i doubt that enough people would even care about it to the point where a single map can be swayed this extremely this quickly

[fresh drum]

Yeah I’d also be okay with that, I pretty much only play casual and only when my friends are on anyways

[rare wing]

im more worried about a potential downward spiral
like, lets say we start on 3 maps with QC, since a lot of people want their map, they would play QC to get it
since QC was played a lot, the next round has it a lot again, so there is a higher chance it has players favorite, leading to it being played a lot, again, and being prioritized, again

[fresh drum]

I mean assuming there’s a vr bonus I think newer players especially would be flooding the less popular maps in any effort to unlock new equipment faster, but yeah I guess there’s no harm no foul in any case

[rare wing]

but even if that was the case and we had to prevent it

i wouldnt mind every mode just being available 1 time on a random map
at least i get to see where it is and if i want to play there

some choice is better than no choice

[tame vine]

Time travel event

[rare vessel]

resets/turns back destruction

[leaden thorn]

y

y

l

k

k

[snow zealot]

du bist ein haken

gedanken

[snow zealot]

.

Wasuup[

[heady cove]

how do you light players deal with gaining height quickly using evasive dash? I'm so hardstuck on grapple hook because getting on top of buildings is so nice but yeah

[sturdy mirage]

Day 162 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 137 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[fresh drum]

Dash is never gonna be as good as grapple for just outright scaling buildings (unless there’s a jumpad nearby, I’d honestly say it’s better in that case) but it’s got advantages in many other areas that make it crazy popular. Honestly grapple needs a buff

[wise plinth]

Grapple should let you hold on to the wall instead of letting go immediately
It should also have two charges and a longer cooldown

[dire vector]

Grapple kinda does let you hold on for a little

Not very long but enough to think clearly; like half a second

[placid wren]

just grapple up and chuck a goo nade at the wall, sit there as long as you like

[viral wing]

I’m convinced that THE FINALS has the most beautiful/ healthy MAPS in any FPS ever (try changing my mind)

[rare vessel]

i wont even try casue i agree

[viral wing]

W

[wispy mortar]

Amusement/Theme Park map please!

[fresh drum]

Ooh I like that idea.
Could have a cashout on a Ferris wheel

[fathom harbor]

kyoto (healthy):
also monaco is just not that like recognisable
idk how to explain it, if you're into team fortress 2 you'd maybe understand what I mean

[fathom harbor]

ask anyone playing on kyoto right now they'll complain about how terrible playing (not looks) it is

[covert bluff]

Stupid bamboo blocking me grenades

[harsh creek]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-grenade-stun-grenade-flash-out-fail-gif-11816755546242520873

[hearty mango]

i agree, new maps stand out more so im just glad that they are branching out to unique themes instead of staying with the original ones, though i cant deny that they still hold some charm into them i cant see in the new ones

[remote dragon]

I'm bavk

[hollow sentinel]

in my opinion Kyoto-worst map

unless we're talking about sightseeing

[dire vector]

I don’t get it; I am a pc player and I never had framerate drops, or much decrease in overall performance. I also play Kyoto regularly so it’s not like I just lucky sometimes

I will accept any explanations

[hollow sentinel]

I'm mainly talking about gameplay, I don't know how to explain it, but after playing a bit on each map I only have aversion to Kyoto

As for fps, at the beginning when they added this map I had big problems with fps when bamboos were collapsing, but I don't feel it so much anymore (i5 13400f/ gtx 4060gaming 8gb)

[pseudo rock]

I really only dislike kyoto in TDM. I don’t really have an opinion on it in other modes. It’s a little hard to get the platform going in powershift but that’s it really.

The only other map I have any negative feelings about is skyway stadium. I pretty much love every other one, especially Seoul and Bernal

[jolly musk]

Don't know why but bernal is for some season the map I have lag spikes on.

[wide mica]

my least favorite is like a tie between $SYS_HORIZON and Las Vegas (the "rework" didn't change the map like at all)

horizon just feels too static and doesn't gel nicely with the map destruction that makes this game special imo, and vegas is just a drag because it's just so wide and flat

both lack any meaningful variants, so getting either map in a tournament means you're going to be playing pretty much the exact same map with no changes up to 3 times in a row

kyoto at least has suspended structures and moving platforms

[forest sage]

Does the new Vegas have the sandstorm variant, I haven’t seen it yet

[forest pollen]

yes

[tranquil trail]

my guy this ain't splatoon (unfortunately)

[tranquil trail]

yes and most of ENGIMO gets buried in the sand, which is representative of this season in general i think

[rare wing]

i mean, its not, but if it improves the players experience, could be worth a shot, right?

[forest sage]

Rude

But accurate

[primal mango]

yo

bro

gt

[lost kernel]

Anyone else not like Kyoto

[lost merlin]

played it 8 times out of 10 matches today no joke in wt

[wise plinth]

Join the club

[sturdy mirage]

Day 163 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 137 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[latent cloud]

medieval map would be cool

[junior chasm]

It's a cool map aesthetically but it's traversal isn't pleasant.
I was excited to hear season 6 would have a medevil European map leaning into the whole West world vibe.
We got a future city , 1500s (don't remember the exact date rn) Japan. It'd be interesting to see them add more maps maybe a 1960s cold war vibe if Alfa acta returns as a sponsor down the line.

Unfortunately no medevil europe this season.

[fathom harbor]

sys horizon best map BECAUSE IT DOESNT RANDOMLY MAKE ME LOOSE 50% OF MY FRAMES

[high coral]

goo mine

trust it woule be peak on monaco

[ruby solar]

If we keep asking for it maybe embark will do it. I think the light could obviously get a medieval sword skin but I think the heavy should get a long sword for the spear or maybe the sledgehammer.

[broken gulch]

guys you dont need to run kyoto on 4k high settings

[rancid aurora]

vegas is best map because people stick together

same with syshorizo

[fathom harbor]

HERES THE THING
I DONT DO THAT EVEN IF IM ON LOWEST SETTINGS IT DIES BECAUSE ITS A CPU ISSUE

kyoto has severe cpu related shenanigans and I don't understand how or why but that severely nukes performance
its especially even worse when destruction

[heavy torrent]

I feel like I've been getting kyoto in world tour around 75% of the time😭

I'm so bad on kyoto, and if it's moving platforms then I'm completely screwed. My friends and I run MHH

[fast cairn]

Kyoto?

[cinder stag]

I mean theres only a few maps selected each week so...

[heavy torrent]

I know, but of all maps for that to happen, why does it have to be kyoto

[white apex]

There should be a jump pad inside to get to the top

[fast cairn]

I think there was

[sturdy mirage]

Day 164 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 137 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[hollow sentinel]

[weak plank]

Me and my friends always joked that Kyoto with moving platforms was the worst thing ever, it's funny to see the majority of the community actually agreeing

We would blame Kyoto moving platforms when we would lose, even if we weren't playing on Kyoto lol

[covert bluff]

I have ptsd from being gun down in the lake and moving a a slugs pace

[digital lagoon]

We talking KS slugs?

[covert bluff]

Sure

[night pollen]

If we get a midevil map the heavy should get a battle ax sedge skin

[ebon sleet]

I would feel an antique rome styled map

[fast cairn]

Do it

[wise plinth]

hate it

[errant cradle]

I blame Kyoto whenever I lose on it, and only somewhat sarcastically. I don’t ever recall playing another MMO game where the map feels like it’s actively fighting you

[gaunt copper]

is Kyoto the best map in a game?)

[broken gulch]

so much kyoto hate ://

bamboo forest is super fun

[fathom harbor]

best looking
worst to play on

[open anvil]

they gotta add some more maps

[harsh creek]

at least we can say kyoto is still the best looking map in the game. and sys horizon is the worst. barbie ahh map

[coarse idol]

sys horizon at night is beautiful, kyoto look alright but og las vegas will forever be #1

[harsh creek]

og las vegas was fire fr. but guy sys horizon night look creepy as hell idk what u on about. sunset is good tho

[coarse idol]

maybe its just bc i love the synth wave retro themes then

[harsh creek]

yeah everyone has their favourites. ngl mine was kyoto serenity kind of thing

[eager sentinel]

My favorite is Monaco or skyway

[true geyser]

real

[dire vector]

It’s thing from the finals

[dire vector]

They built it in real life because they like the game so much?!

Hats off to Japan

[sturdy mirage]

Does it come in different colors depending on the season?

[jolly musk]

I know lots of people despise playing Kyoto but what map is your favorite to play on?

[tidal shoal]

I love Kyoto what about a forest map?

[errant cradle]

Hard to say, but I think I would pick Fortune if I had to choose just one

[cosmic lava]

prob monaco or sys horizon

[plush kiln]

Love sys when it's daylight, hate it at night when it has that blue hue to it

[sturdy mirage]

Day 165 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 138 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[harsh creek]

Bruv just make an excel spreadsheet or something? i mean ik everyone has seen the ppl in the roster already but can make stuff really easy

[vivid hamlet]

@sturdy mirage add me to that roster

[jolly musk]

Count me in, also I second the spreadsheet idea

[round furnace]

@sturdy mirage im in good idea

[sturdy mirage]

It’s not exactly a spread sheet, but this was the first like 70 people

[worthy crypt]

My old account is there! You can add this one too if you want. Not ping able tho pls.

[steep kelp]

i hate vegas sm..

[coarse idol]

bait used to be believable

[steep kelp]

what bait gng💔💔

[coarse idol]

vegas is NOT bad lmao

[steep kelp]

most obv rage bait

[coarse idol]

bro for sure glazes kyoto 💔

[steep kelp]

Kyoto mid gng✌️✌️

[coarse idol]

first decent opinion

[steep kelp]

Monaco prolly my fav map

[round furnace]

old vegas is trash

[coarse idol]

holy L bro 💀 😭

old vegas was more alive and had a perfect charm

[round furnace]

i perfer new vegas cuz its so much better to play

[coarse idol]

less clutter isnt always the best

it feels empty and dead, but there are aspects that look good

[round furnace]

its not clutter it just flows completely differently

[coarse idol]

i beg to differ with that, it depends on the gamemode tho

[round furnace]

im mostly talking about cashout, me and my freinds would slander vegas especially in the sandstorm theme

it genuinely felt terrible to play especially as light

i mean when you play heavy with the lewis or m60 it feels a lot better

[coarse idol]

i hate sandstorm with a passion. but the cashout stations are mostly in the same spots as old vegas and those spots have been mostly empty in both versions so i dont see much of a difference in playablity for that

[coarse idol]

or med with a pike or famas, still annoying ash

[round furnace]

true, i used to main medium and would switch to heavy most of the time

[round furnace]

ive seen core parts of the map change quite a bit between vegas and vegas stadium.

ive noticed this one cashout spot on new vegas thats really fun to play around

[coarse idol]

like i said, mostly the same. i liked the look and feel of the old map better since it was more realistic, instead of trying to make it a fortune stadium copy without the void. it definately has too many open interiors now and some exterior hideouts have been wiped too which makes it start feeling like another kyoto

[round furnace]

yeah kyoto and vegas are defenatly sniper hell, mostly kyoto. vegas staduim has latge roofed area that allow hiding, but still- they can always be a crazy battlesniper running around hs everyone.

[coarse idol]

thats what gets annoying. it just feels like a very big downgrade for no reason, they couldve made it a varient that comes by random instead of wiping the other map. from what weve gotten in the past this kinda feels lazy from the devs and its sad to see since they've dished out beautiful and detailed maps with warm atmospheres

hopefully they cook next season tho

[round furnace]

true, i see why people unlike me dont like the industreal/futuristic ashetic.

i personally like the stadium theme, i wonder what theyll drop next season (medival map???)

[coarse idol]

i dont dislike it that much but it needs to stay in its lane if that makes sense. like thats the theme of fortune and its a really nice map but why shove it into las vegas? like why not have each map keep its uniqueness?

[round furnace]

yeah i agree with that, we should have more personal and unique maps. But i think they might be playing into the lore with all of these stadiums. idrk, we'll see next season.

[coarse idol]

who knows, there hasnt been much lore since the season 3 trailers, at least from what ive seen

[round furnace]

yeah i know, its all hidden now and really- i want more lore. even from the trailers.

[coarse idol]

real

[harsh creek]

oh yea this does the trick too. but damn bro this is real dedication keep up the good work

[merry drift]

Real

[cedar mural]

MAPS

[plush kiln]

PLEASE for the love of god remove SYS horizon at night

or atleast remove the blue hue

[wispy mortar]

Amusement/Theme park!

[fathom harbor]

hell nah this map lit asf
remove kyoto instead

[plush kiln]

Hell nah, remove both of em

[fathom harbor]

syshorizon is the only map i have maximum frame rates with no lag
no thank you id rather keep syshorizon's excellent optimisations

[plush kiln]

can keep the daylight version, but remove the night one

[fathom harbor]

i think the night one looks (literally) cooler

[plush kiln]

it would be cool if you werent blinded by all the strong blue lights all around

[fathom harbor]

hahahahaha

[fathom harbor]

your eyes are weak
get good mortal
i dont even know what lights you're talking about

[green stirrup]

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[plush kiln]

you're a menace to society

[turbid osprey]

Does anyone else think Kyoto needs to be removed or revised like with Las Vegas? Idk sometimes people tell me I have really bad takes

[queen ridge]

Well it seems like overwatch stadium is going to be a gameshow PvP shooter by devs who understand that multiple teams in the only ranked mode and purely balancing off of pickrate are bad ideas.

Genuinely unfortunate because I’ve dumped 1000 hours into the finals hoping that it would become a better competitive experience. But there’s been 1 viable playstyle per class in ranked since launch and you’ve said in dev logs that you actually think eh game is well balanced.

No idea how anyone thinks this game will be ready for an actual competitive major in 2 seasons

[plush kiln]

i would post a picture of what i mean but im not cool enough to do that yet

[turbid osprey]

I complete agree with this entire message. I got 700 hours on the game and honestly hate how they don’t balance the weapons on skill, and how some weapons lack depth, like revolver with no recoil. Along with this the games visual clutter is out the roof, and the game is overall pretty inconsistent. The line “anything can happen in the finals” makes you think of clutch plays, but in reality it’s usually something unfortunate like the game crashing or the building perfectly collapsing on top of you while you’re stealing. I think this game needs to support its comp community more, as that’s probably going to be the community that continues to stick with the game for a while. As some who try’s to be more competitive in this game, it really doesn’t feel like the devs really care fire players like me.

[queen ridge]

Wow I meant to send it in game feedback oops. But yeah comp is cooked. I hope they can bring it back cause this game has insane potential

[round furnace]

syshorizons excelent optimizations are of it being made of cubes 😭😭🙏🙏

[sturdy mirage]

Bro

Wait use this https://tiermaker.com/create/the-finals---maps-season-6-18045266?presentationMode=true

And send it to this chat. I want to see what you would put

Day 166 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 141 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[plucky ember]

Why does everyone hate kyoto??

[fathom harbor]

performance
HORRIBLY HUGE sight lines compared to all other maps
Lack of true verticality on cashes compared to other maps
Everything breaks with the force of a mosquito
Water
The bamboo area

[fathom harbor]

Gameplay wise Bernal suffers of some of the same problems here too

[ornate dock]

and sniper or some random BS aimbots on that tower in centre of map who land head shot from 120m far away

[weak plank]

Basically all of what @ascellayn said added with the fact that it doesn't really have the same gameshow vibe as the rest of the maps and the layout just doesn't feel good to play on

[cedar mural]

Maps 2!

[versed sigil]

The Pans Labyrinth 🗺️ map

[jovial gull]

Santorini, Greece.

[vale urchin]

Check out this map idea! Mont Saint-Michel

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/hLndH8q0NS

[green stirrup]

YOYOYOOY IDK IF U PLAY A GAME LIKE THIS BUT THE BLOX FRUITS SERVER IS FUCKED UP JUST JOIN IT AND SPAM BRAINROT PLS THIS IS MY COMEBACK

[fathom harbor]

what

[reef oak]

is any one else horrible at Kyoto map

[plush kiln]

yes

[warm vapor]

all map is great !

[fathom harbor]

except kyoto and maybe bernal

[weak portal]

remove kyoto

can we start a voting to remove that map and js make it a background

or at least put it on certain gamemods and not ranked or wt

[fathom harbor]

YO SICK IDEA
like the barely known feature in tf2 where you set a map as the background menu that'd be SICK

[rare wing]

id also love to be able to pick old seasons background like we can with the music now
extra immersion and helps a bit if we find certain seasons back being uneasy on the eyes

[sterile totem]

add skibidi toilet city as map

[plucky ember]

Man wow that is just so funny😒

[weak portal]

LFG 41K

[spiral hull]

Guys

I just saw the Minecraft movie and we chicken jockied so hard like it was soo cool fr fr

[astral knot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/kEXJmIA1Ct

[marsh scroll]

next map predictions?

[slender parrot]

dude literally chicken jockey no lie

[spiral hull]

Fr

[sturdy mirage]

Day 167 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 141 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[spark sage]

day 167 of asking for medieval map with @sturdy mirage @clear gull @earnest hornet and 141 others

[gentle portal]

Oh my lord we hit over 150 days already

[left coral]

I think I already was in the roster but if I ain’t sign me the fuck up

[versed sigil]

Add teleporting points or areas.. Could be tested on events

[wispy mortar]

Theme/amusement park map please!

[bitter crown]

Do I dare go upstairs?

[warm vapor]

🙂

[forest sage]

I hope we get a Cairo or Istanbul map

[wise plinth]

medieval france
just a game show map, lots of moving walls and platforms (why dont we have this already)
london with big ben

[daring spruce]

this Christmas it would be awesome to see like a old time holiday decoration map. like how they used to do it with the buildings. cotton for the snow on the ground. and like a toy train going around the map. I think that would be so fun

[sturdy mirage]

Day 168 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 142 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[strong carbon]

next map needs to be a mall. have there be a round1 arcade in it and make sure to include wacca, music diver, sound voltex. ddr, dance around, iidx, dancerush stardom,chrono circle, chunithm, project diva, and maybe museca. ideally these should all be playable in game with official emuse support

[harsh creek]

https://tenor.com/view/night-city-cyberpunk2077-night-city-skyline-chilling-at-scenic-view-watching-city-gif-26943044

next map needs to be Cyberpunk-ish

[red yew]

Next stop should be Madagascar, Africa 🌍.

[jaunty arch]

Volcano Vault:
Research facility built into the side of an active volcano,
Key Features:
Lava rivers that rise slowly over time, cutting off paths

Seismic tremors shake the map and cause parts to collapse

Destructible bridges over lava

Geothermal vents that shoot players upward like jump pads

Power room where sabotage can disable enemy gadgets or open lava valves

[hard trellis]

yo

[pseudo minnow]

Can we please have that

Or fix the spawn issue of being 100 meters away from the Cashout and not making it back on time without relying on the Medium’s Ziplines

[candid torrent]

BRING KBM TO CONSOLE DAY 8182

[shadow cliff]

what so you can dog on everyone else on console without having to enable crossplay?

[candid torrent]

Have you heard of input based matchmaking

[shadow cliff]

why would you use kbm on console anyways....

[candid torrent]

BECAUSE ITS BETTER

[radiant portal]

Buffmodel

[shadow cliff]

pc?

[candid torrent]

Buy me one

[rancid gyro]

@sturdy mirage Add me to that roster brother

[pulsar hedge]

whats the map that looks like china?

[sturdy mirage]

Kyoto?

[pulsar hedge]

i think.

[pulsar hedge]

is there only one like that?

[fallow flame]

Kyoto is in China, apparently

[gentle portal]

wrong asian country vro...

[pulsar hedge]

RESEMBELS

its not a real place. hopefully you knew that

[fathom harbor]

im not japanese but damn i'd feel hella offended lol

[fallow flame]

Kyoto isn’t a real place, it’s all a simulation

[fathom harbor]

you are pixels in a screen
you are a simulation
and me as well
lets fcking go we gained sentience

[gentle portal]

i went there a month ago vro 💔

[limber stag]

why not australia, or someplace like dat?

[somber smelt]

spider event

[void fossil]

☠️

[spare mirage]

SYDNEY WOULD BE AWSOME

[sudden pewter]

Hell yeah I'd be down for that

[sturdy mirage]

Day 169 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 143 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[native fox]

yes please
mediaval stuff rocks

[marsh juniper]

Add me in

[haughty orbit]

Make a castle

[versed sigil]

Upside down map

[wise plinth]

Theme park map
London w big ben (and dr who tardis reference)
Game show map, with lots of moving platforms, walls and obstacles (how is this not a thing)
Rome coliseum
Medieval French castle

[tall peak]

i like kyoto

[native ibex]

nah bro
i want a beach themed map

since its summer u know

or a water park lmao

[inland rampart]

A boardwalk at the beach!

[native ibex]

yeah, something like that, idk, a resort, idk

[inland rampart]

So Atlantic City or Dubai?

Both are great ideas. Everyone was asking for an amusement park and Atlantic City covers that. Dubai has the world’s biggest mall.

A jungle map with an old decayed Bronze or Iron Age city would be cool.

[proud zephyr]

Jungle map would be too much like Kyoto. Lag city

[forest sage]

Kyoto Japan. 35.02556° N, 135.76247° E

[peak skiff]

hello

[wispy mortar]

AMUSEMENT/Theme park map!!!

[glad mason]

Remove kyoto entirely no one likes it

[plush kiln]

and sys horizon on night time

[nova dune]

Word

[hushed kestrel]

Please do something for those of us who use Logitech Scripts Aim mouse that never moves. We are suffering from this.

[scenic frost]

true

[bright tangle]

Atlantic City map would go hard. It’s a virtual game show. The possibilities are endless

Örf themed Aztec temple type deal (I like the idea of Örf characters engraved into ancient stones or statues)

Map on an airship or airships up in the clouds

[feral dock]

Air ships, heck, Air Pirate Ships, with platforms flying between and around them would be awesome. A deathmatch of Light's swinging like pirates, and Heavy's getting cannon based weapons would be pretty fun

[dire vector]

Bro it’s fine, it honestly a staple of the game wether u like it or not

[wooden badge]

sys on night is literally the best version of it what are you on

[sturdy mirage]

Day 170 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 145 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[languid oxide]

i like kyoto 😦

[carmine aurora]

Kyoto is rlly good unless ur using a shot ranged weapon

[pseudo minnow]

Replace Kyoto with a Shibuya Map instead

[gusty scroll]

I'd love to see a theme park map

Or a city map with bridges and fully destructable skyscrapers but take a lot of beating to fully destroy

[haughty orbit]

Being put in a really big house

[quiet maple]

remove Kyoto only from Powershift (or change the route of the platform) it plays fine in the other modes, there is nothing more exciting than playing TA on Kyoto at night, so much atmosphere

[versed sigil]

||A Dark room ||

[plush kiln]

Nah terrible map at night time

[tall peak]

Whats the vest map

[gleaming charm]

I highly agree with this. The route always has something blocking angles, blocking throwables, etc. Or the best angles leave you completely open

[tall peak]

kyoto is the best and most beautrifull map though but its to open as wel they should ad like a temple or something thats hard to destroy

[coarse idol]

ah hell nah

[gleaming charm]

Maybe best aesthetically, but not for gameplay, especially on powershift. Powershift is really its only fault

[shy phoenix]

Kyoto is a beautiful looking map, but I've always said it feels way too big. Reduce the size a bit and it's fine imo. In power shift the map seize is especially noticeable since you don't even get to play in the lower section of the map. Same can also be said for the far hospital on Seoul ig, but still this feels far more egregious since it's a much larger section of map.

[gleaming charm]

I'm gonna be honest, I see the lower sections enough. I try to take out people getting angles on the platform, the lights tend to run down there to get away. Also mediums are sometimes there trying to pick people off, but that's rare. But that's just my experience. I do agree with you on the hospital in Seoul

[vivid hamlet]

Bernal

you get roof peaking simulator and the rest of the game at the same time

[hushed kestrel]

Guest, select the map before the round starts because we are tired of the Kyoto map being annoying during this period until you enter the bathroom and the Kyoto map appears

[fathom harbor]

don't forget fortune stadium
peak close range and long range balance for both maps, decent verticality and insanely good performance wise

[tardy inlet]

week 9 of trying to add these following maps
city-moving platforms-25 percent of buidling you cant go in<--- (25% you cant go in-just for reduced lag in game)

museum-quick cash map only maybe moor-little buttons that move fossils

cybert-own(spelt like that)-medium map-cyberpunky-powershift map -LOTS AND LOTS I REPEAT LOTS AND LOTS OF PLATFORMS

[harsh creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-intensifies-gif-19486549

urge for kyoto to get improved intensifies

DO NOT REMOVE KYOTO, MAKE IT BETTER

[tame haven]

midevil map please!!!!!

[fringe gazelle]

Will Tencent server be cross-platform?

[ornate dock]

NO, it's obvious

[prisma hazel]

Kyoto is great because few of the strategies used on other maps work, so it catches everyone off guard and forces innovation and unique tactics. It helps preserve the dynamic nature of The Finals.

[scenic frost]

[sturdy mirage]

Day 171 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 145 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[left python]

you can add me on here if you imply that it should entirely replace kyoto

[spark sage]

fym, kyoto is fine

[unborn vortex]

kyoto is best looking map imo but super hard to play on

[still basin]

anyone wanna run around Las Vegas in spectate with me? need 2 to start custom game

[gleaming charm]

Damn, that sounds fun. I can't right now but wish I could

[finite bough]

STERBEN

[gleaming charm]

Hello?

[finite bough]

dude sterben whats up

[finite bough]

yo sterben wake up im talking to you

[ashen pivot]

love bernal

[proud zephyr]

og map, skyway high rise

[dire vector]

I know right!
people r going a bit overboard… I know there r some performance issues but cmon

[versed sigil]

New map mid season /?

[forest sage]

Never

[brittle robin]

Map with a bottomless pit that starts covered up by destructible terrain

[silent valley]

purely gameplay, kyoto is high A tier in prettyness

[frigid path]

W

[sturdy mirage]

Putting sandstorm Vegas on the same level as Kyoto is criminal 😭😭😭

[silent valley]

im equally as dissapointed when both pop up

[sturdy mirage]

WHAAAAT

WHICH VEGAS

[silent valley]

sandstorm dawg

[sturdy mirage]

naaah but new or old Vegas

[silent valley]

thats a good question, i think i liked old vegas sandstorm more but not a letter grade more

[sturdy mirage]

Interesting

[silent valley]

just felt like it made more sense to be sandstormed than the new cyber future vegas yk

they both play ab the same though old and new sandstorm

[silent valley]

but yeah the tier list is ab new vegas lol

[silent valley]

oh i understand now we have a sandstorm fanatic over here

are u a medium main?

[sturdy mirage]

Honestly

I play all of them

[silent valley]

thats chill, just asking bc i always have the most fun w jump pad on sandstorm, feels iffey on other stuff

aw my tier list didnt have ice kyoto FUCK i actually kinda like ice kyoto, more than any other kyoto varients at least

[sturdy mirage]

Same

Wait
I gotchu

https://tiermaker.com/create/the-finals---maps-season-6-18045266?presentationMode=true

[silent valley]

ty goat

[sturdy mirage]

Anyways more important matter await

Day 172 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 146 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[languid oxide]

Man sandstorm Vegas is annoying asf

[desert carbon]

No way Kyoto is definitely F

[harsh creek]

ngl for me its skyway high rise on A instead of syshorizon and any variant of og las vegas instead of monaco duck and cover of A

But variants like sandstorm is just beautiful. I think devs were trying to incorporate the same kinda thing in kyoto when they brought out the winter version, but kyoto was a map doomed from the start.

[woven onyx]

all moving platform f. that shi can be anoying as f because its in the sky basicly untouchable

[inland rampart]

A few ideas:

1. A series of connected movie sets
2. A giant museum.
3. A shopping mall.
4. Atlantic City boardwalk

[slow yoke]

i hate monaco bro...

[proud zephyr]

Add me back

[autumn kiln]

I actually can't argue with this

[sturdy mirage]

What do you mean

[wooden badge]

blasphemy

[proud zephyr]

oh idk I thought you restarted the thing

oh wait nvm I didn't read the 146 other people

[wooden badge]

seoul standard below turretsand tripwires?

or is it not in any particular order

[real sedge]

Don't like neither maps, seoul standart is just hospital camping, the turrets were annoying lol

[wooden badge]

yeah i hated the turrets

[rough valley]

channel

[wooden badge]

just talk to get the role

[rough valley]

wym

how do i get more points all im tryna do is start a vc

[wooden badge]

yeah just talk

[rough valley]

ok thanks

[austere hinge]

yeah trying to lvl to haha

to make vc, does it take long or?

[limber stag]

a new map idea, how about australia? or china?

[elder tide]

Am I the only one who liked ice kyoto better than normal kyoto? It was way more fun for me, espec with all the water out of the way

[limber stag]

kyoto is a steaming pile of garbage, not good for any weapon or gadgets

[languid oxide]

a giant museum would go hard

[fiery charm]

@fiery charm I agree with you Monkey Man

[sturdy mirage]

Day 173 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 146 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[languid oxide]

i heard about rumors or somethign before season 6 that this season is gonna be medieval themed? maybe that will be next season so lets just hope lol

[finite prairie]

(left turrets and tripwires out because i hardly remember it at all sadly and i cant check back through clips cus xbox sucks)

[silent valley]

w f tier picks

kyoto higher than skyway high rise is a crime unforgivable im afraid

[dire vector]

No your not; I love ice Kyoto way more than regular js because the water is gone

[rare wing]

im trying to make spitball ideas around an apocalypse season

id love to see a ruined map with sky scrapers, but im worried about performance issues around large scale destruction, so here is what i came up with to try and work around it:

all buildings are placed on individual cliffs that collectively form a giant staircase
each building can only fall a little bit on its own level, reducing physics calculations, but still allowing large high differences

[dire vector]

Clever

[rare wing]

as map it could look like this, a street going uphill, with buildings on both sides, occasionally connected by ziplines and stuff

[dire vector]

Start a petition I’ll stand with you

[rare wing]

a few buildings are a little larger, to avoid giant sightlines

on their own, the tallest buildings are only about 4 stories tall, just about matching the taller buildings on seoul/fortune stadium, but they add up while going uphill, making it feel far larger

[rare wing]

i dont really feel comfortable doing this by myself

although i do plan on releasing more polished material alongside skin ideas in a fanworks post

some additions to just throw out there

a flooded map varient where the lower area is in knee high water and the street turns into a river for fast downward movement (somewhat like tlou2)
a big (underground) parking garage thats in knee high water no matter what, and completely flooded in the flood varient (would require coding the interaction for deeper water though)
potentially rain carved dirt trenches with partially collapsed street debris on top for the lower area
the bottom most building could be a looted shop

[wheat sky]

This is super cool

[inland rampart]

Can we get cybernetic body parts as cosmetics.

[proud robin]

San Francisco?

[rare wing]

I was more thinking of seattle from tlou (hence the river idea)

[sturdy mirage]

You got the ospuse ceo backing you up 😭🔥🔥🔥

[atomic moth]

add me to that roster big man

[proud robin]

The steep uphill streets just made me think of Sam Francisco mb.

[forest sage]

This idea is great, we need more people to format map ideas this way. I love the mix of vertical movement with sight lines and the ratio of indoor to outdoor spaces. Keep it up

[round iron]

Anyone else dislike kyoto? I feel like its a playground for lights. They should’ve had a season ending poll where we can vote on the least favourite maps atleast for data purposes & future implementation or changes. I also get it a lot more often then others.

[atomic moth]

i play light and i still don’t enjoy it much unless its kyoto (ice)

[elder tide]

I think a "future" map would be pretty cool cause its supposed to be set in the "future" anyway and we already have past and present maps

[bitter crown]

If I remember correctly, didn't Kyoto happen because the finals' ai turned back time as a defense system following CNS' attempted takeover? CNS came back at the end of season 5, so another past-themed map might be on the table. We might actually be seeing that medieval map in season 7!

[sturdy mirage]

Day 174 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 147 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[warped basin]

@sturdy mirage I'll sign

[tranquil forum]

Sign me up too! Give us a catapult like the canons in these other maps, to both crush walls and throw players and items too! :D

[forest sage]

Las Vegas was set in the future before they overhauled and just made it another area map

[prisma hazel]

@sturdy mirage Sounds fun!

[warm plover]

sign me up !

[rough tangle]

u know what, add me aswell, EXCITED TO SEE FOR HONOR TYPE ARMORSSSS ⚔️

[proud zephyr]

watch embark decide to rework Seoul instead of giving us the medieval map again 😭 🙏

[sturdy mirage]

I will destroy their map maker with a claymore

[proud zephyr]

They're gonna spend another whole season reworking vegas arena

[honest apex]

Map

[glad crescent]

wow what a great ma0o

[honest apex]

I'm new to this, but thank you

[copper yacht]

AHHH

[copper yacht]

H

[cedar oxide]

Hear me out. Toronto, Canada

Destroying the CN tower would be the best thing to exist.

[finite prairie]

my red flag is i like base kyoto, ice is obviously better but i like the water. i do not like skyway on account of me having a spurt for like a week where i got like almost nothing but skyway and it got unbelievably annoying

[finite prairie]

north sentinel island map when

[elfin quest]

@sturdy mirage me to

I want that longsword sword ski. And crusader armour

[sturdy mirage]

6 signatures in one day WOW

[elfin quest]

Hell yeah

[sturdy mirage]

Day 175 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 153 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[elfin quest]

Maybe a crossbow weapon for m or h

[sturdy mirage]

Yeeeaaa boiiii

[elfin quest]

That s an amazing idea

Yo

What about a medieval shield plus axe for riot shield

So many cool options

Basically could be an option for all melees

And a holy hand grenade skin for frag

[rough tangle]

A medieval season would be such a great opportunity to introduce something they failed to do back in season 3. (remember that szn 3 was the szn of the ninjas and samurais but didnt feel like it imo beacuse of a missed opportunity to lean into that vibe a little more)

A LTE to introduce the new season and contents, where u strictly play with medieval weapons (no guns, just sword/bows/sledge/spear) with only armor cosmetics. (Would also be a great way to introduce some cosmetics before they release it into the shop, for a little teasing).
And you try to siege each others base/castle in a similar way as in Chilvary.
It would make the finals so fresh and different for a little while, would be epic. And a great way to feel like the season is medievaly based instead of the usual, a little bit of this little bit of that themes that we've been getting.

[wispy mortar]

Amusement/ theme park map!!!!

[warm plover]

would be sick, could work similar to siege if shanghai from bf4 (and there’s a lake right next to it too!)

[wintry belfry]

the japan map is so bad imo, everything looks the same and theres a million stupid trees that block los. hella roofs but barely any ropes to get up top.

[forest sage]

We need a Gamla stan map. It’s a small enough area with lots of character. Embark is based in Stockholm after all. They could even do a medieval version and make that the location for the medieval map. It’s just too perfect

[torpid nova]

I like this 👌

[sturdy mirage]

Absolutely incredible

[wanton gale]

Winter map🤤 and maybe blizzard

[honest apex]

My new map submission

[glad crescent]

looolllll

[marble socket]

the entire country of tuvalu would be amazing

[normal elm]

This is such a great idea. Embark???

[astral maple]

im sure somebody has recommended it at some point but satorini greece would be the coolest map for the finals as a real location

[elfin quest]

Maybe also a capture the flag type game but I guess light would be op so maybe noy

[elfin quest]

They should add a flintlock to finals idk what class tho

[teal ivy]

Give us a beach map!

[olive sandal]

Why is kyoto back again 😭

[sweet acorn]

I want to play the saving mode, and this map is too shit. I can't even play Monaco before. Haven't the stun gun been made yet? Can you hurry up

[bitter crown]

A capture the flag mode would go crazy either as an LTE or just a new permanent mode.

[elfin quest]

Ye that's what I said but light with grapple would be kinda broken

[bitter crown]

The same goes for most other specs too though. Heavy can guard someone getting away with the flag, both charge and demat serve as good breaching tools to get to the flag. The only things I worry about being to broken would be grapple and demat.

[elfin quest]

Yeah

Maybe it could remove them from your choice pool

[uncut trail]

A medieval season would be such a great opportunity to introduce something they failed to do back in season 3. (remember that szn 3 was the szn of the ninjas and samurais but didnt feel like it imo beacuse of a missed opportunity to lean into that vibe a little more)

A LTE to introduce the new season and contents, where u strictly play with medieval weapons (no guns, just sword/bows/sledge/spear) with only armor cosmetics. (Would also be a great way to introduce some cosmetics before they release it into the shop, for a little teasing).
And you try to siege each others base/castle in a similar way as in Chilvary.
It would make the finals so fresh and different for a little while, would be epic. And a great way to feel like the season is medievaly based instead of the usual, a little bit of this little bit of that themes that we've been getting.

[bitter crown]

It still sounds awesome, but did you really just copy paste?

[still token]

i guess theres going to be HongKong map in 6.6

[elfin quest]

Ye why copy paste

[uncut trail]

Galactican why say this

[elfin quest]

What do you mean bro? Why wouldn't I?

[finite prairie]

chat, ithaca map when?

[sturdy mirage]

Day 176 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 153 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[elfin quest]

Would be so awespme

[honest apex]

Here's a blurry map of Silverstone circuit, i have no clue what it is or what it's for.

[normal steeple]

add me to lmao great idea

[static brook]

i wish we got to play in monaco harbor

[shrewd bronze]

Has anyone been able to play on Kyoto recently on Quick Cash? I played yesterday like 8 hours straight and not even once Kyoto, same today.

[stoic venture]

I just played at least 2 rounds today in Kyoto. One was in quick cash the other in powershift

[fresh patio]

formula 1, as the image says

[honest apex]

i never looked at the image

[fresh patio]

give me your eyes you dont use em anyway

theyd sell for a bit of cash and I could use that cash

[honest apex]

ill sell them to my followers

[fresh patio]

your who

cares

sorry I had to lololololol

[honest apex]

[honest apex]

gotta wait for my response vro before saying that part

[fresh patio]

nah I said it because I couldnt wait

[honest apex]

XD

[versed sigil]

New map for S7? Hawaii ?

[slender nimbus]

piccadilly circus

[elfin quest]

Heck yeah

[sturdy mirage]

Day 177 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 154 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[iron sonnet]

Can anyone tell me where ppl are going in the channel to see what map is live when queuing ranked?

[sleek pelican]

evry map is good

[forest sage]

Based

[frigid ore]

Hey, I know I'm a cringe white role, but can I pls get in there?

[tiny ingot]

delete kyoto

[inner schooner]

Fr

[elfin quest]

Why?

I guess I like the theme but not really the desighn

[stoic venture]

agreed honestly

[uncut trail]

skibidi yoself

[elfin quest]

I was refering to the map design as In purely gameplay related

[elfin quest]

Almost may 2025 bro

[uncut trail]

Thanks sis

[elfin quest]

Pipe down bug boy

Dw

[sturdy mirage]

Day 178 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 155 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[stoic venture]

Midevil map would be so cool

Like fr tho we need that next season

[rough pulsar]

delete kyoto

[gusty badger]

agree

[floral flume]

Egypt please

[queen ridge]

It’s a server I can send u an invite to if you’d like

[quasi flare]

Guys..?

This isnt an existing map..
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJEex-3Abx0/?igsh=cTFqaGtsZDZhZmR4

[rare wing]

that looks awesome

people were constantly throwing around that a 2nd map may be added
did that have any grounds or was that just them thinking out loud?

it does have alfa acta in the background...

[round iron]

oh my god no way we are getting a kyoto 2.0

[rare wing]

reworking 2 maps instead of adding a new one 🤔

[quasi flare]

would be so mad, laggiest map in the game as if im not already stuttering in mf BERNAL

[rough pulsar]

They have to be kidding right

[quasi flare]

a castle would be so fire tho

[rough pulsar]

Medieval Kingdom replacing kyoto would be so fire😻

[quasi flare]

Hey hey its like 1% of the map we cant judge based off that- i mean monaco has a lil forestyish area

[quasi flare]

booo kyoto 💔 💔

[rough pulsar]

thats true

[round iron]

its going to be 99% water 1% tree

above sea level map 🗺️

[quasi flare]

if jesus can walk on water then may he bless us with that ability too

[stuck leaf]

i feel like this structure on the right would be the giveaway but tbh can’t for the life of me place it

[warm plover]

am i tweaking or does that look like dissun’s red

doesnt make sense from the perspective that this is supposed to be a reworked map (probably not kyoto cus the trees) but thats what that color reminds me of

[pseudo minnow]

That’s what I’ve been sayinggg

[west horizon]

Alfa Acta is also red.

[warm plover]

i know but that shade looks closer to the dissun shade at least to me

[rare wing]

look at the picture above, should be alfa actas A

[rare wing]

top left

[warm plover]

ohhh actually ur right tyy

[onyx knot]

The new forest map is gonna have a special loading screen where you wake up on a cart and someone notices you're finally awake

[zenith raven]

its in monaco

[sturdy mirage]

Kinda looks like Bernal floating platforms

Cuz the dissun logo is in the bottom right

And it looks to be floating

[coarse idol]

baseball stadium with a couple locations outside of it and suspended structures like bernals in the diamond

[zealous patrol]

Ngl I just want Embark to give the kids the mideval map the kids think they want so they can shut up after they realize it's going to be their least favorite map

If everyone hates Kyoto what In the hell makes everyone think they will love another map in set in the past bro

[warm plover]

the map being set in the past is not the problem with kyoto

[torpid nova]

I've got a few predictions
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE6nZaRkqf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[marble dove]

ARC RAIDERS MAP AND SEASON BP THEME BASED OFF IT PLEASE EMBARK

[lime marsh]

Mfs see foliage and automatically booo because Kyoto sucks, but like Monaco has had a forest the whole time

But honestly want a map like skyway stadium again a few pieces from other maps but with areas that are new but still fit

[coarse idol]

Yeah but the forests arent as thick as Kyoto and the image looks like full fledged foliage once again for little little lights to grapple away and hide

[lime marsh]

Forests are hard to do, I personally dont like the Monaco forest because there’s no cover but then there’s Kyoto forest which lags my game to carp anytime something explodes

[coarse idol]

Exactly, and this one looks pretty damn open so it might go bad

[forest sage]

I honestly thought this was real life for a hot minute

[subtle turret]

map

[torpid nova]

map 👍

[subtle turret]

👍

[pallid bobcat]

Seoul is bad

[honest apex]

This is a map

[sturdy mirage]

Day 179 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 156 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[regal schooner]

@sturdy mirage

[fickle thorn]

@sturdy mirage

[tawdry oak]

A space map would BE also nice Like a NASA Headquarter or Something , or a Bunker map

[winged tide]

new map looks like it will be a full map in the future 🙂

[mild cove]

A map that would make you feel small and all the objects in the arena are giant. Kinda like honey i shrunk the kids vibe

[sacred lynx]

@sturdy mirage Add me to this map roaster boss

[spark anvil]

Ngl I like that they have smaller maps for sum game modes

[glass rampart]

it's never coming out of rotation lawd

[stray flame]

I feel like the towers on the new map need to be harder to destroy because that zip line across the map just gets deleted almost immediately

[fathom harbor]

delete kyoto
ok i didn't try out the new cashout spots tho
MAYBE its 0.1%+ more bearable

[uncut trail]

I like tdm map

More of those pls

[remote sluice]

I love the esthetic of the new map so much we need one of these for quick cash!!

[fathom harbor]

problem is that we'd get basically kyoto 2 though...
but yeah the esthetics are crazy

[remote sluice]

That's true maybe cut some of trees down and make it more like the other maps in terms of playstyle

[fathom harbor]

fortune stadium but overgrown with grass and trees
id love that (no seriously)

[remote sluice]

I'm fighting the environment more than the players half of time 😭

[fathom harbor]

in kyoto yeah

[remote sluice]

ONG

[fathom harbor]

i mean we have insane modifiers like las vegas sandstorm which basically is literally another different map
why not a fat ass modifier for funkier maps like fortune stadium where it's like "more realistic" (natural) and like the thing is in ruins / abandonned

[fallow tree]

@sturdy mirage You know what I mean

[fathom harbor]

wait a minute
MEDIEVAL MAP
T R U E

[fallow tree]

well im not the one to ping

[fathom harbor]

I DIDNT LIKE THE IDEA OF A MEDIEVAL MAP UNTIL I PLAYED THE NEW TDM MAP

FUCK YOU ADD ME TO THE LIST I'M IN FOR IT

[fallow tree]

ping him

[fathom harbor]

its alpha rex right?
cuz i saw in the funny pronouns text "make medieval map"

[fallow tree]

yep

[fathom harbor]

@sturdy mirage

[fringe lichen]

Played the new map and loved it, it feels like what Kyoto was meant to be like

[bitter crown]

I'm loving the new map. The two towers on opposite ends with the zipline feels like it's just begging to be used in a clip.

[honest apex]

I think this is a map

[timid prawn]

baseball stadium with a couple locations outside of it and suspended structures like bernals in the ruby

[celest cape]

Love the new map! thanks embark I love you

[clever viper]

Where’s the PLR16 skin for the Pike 556

[tranquil trail]

watching a video of Tripwires and Turrets and ugh it looks so good. the fact that all the lights are off too so it feels like a casino heist is. ugh why did it get removed

[bitter crown]

Thoughts on the new map? I heard someone else mention that it seems pretty similar in layout to a medieval map, which I can totally see. I've been loving it, and the open space really let's some weapons and gadgets shine through. The two towers are also a very bold choice, and they seem pretty interesting to play around. They also function as places to farm easy kills off snipers, because all of them seem to gravitate there.

[static whale]

One of the variants for the new map looks like it was built for capture the flag

With the two big buildings on each side

[sturdy mirage]

Day 180 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 161 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[gentle portal]

almost half a year huh

[severe vine]

@sturdy mirage add me to the roster

[rough tangle]

u guys think the new map is gon be released for cashout too? or is it gon be TDM specific?

because it looks full scale for cashout, but also at the same time its fragmented well for TDM so idk what to think

[green zealot]

the new map is so beautiful i really hope we get to keep it at least for private matches

the lighting is perfect and the density of the trees works so well

[clever viper]

Soooo true

[green zealot]

usually trees in this game are pesky (kyoto) but theres just something about this map that just works so well

[clever viper]

Probably because it’s a forest and not a fckin bamboo jungle

[timid prawn]

I'm loving the new map. The two towers on opposite ends with the zipline feels like it's just begging to be used in a clip.

[silent valley]

kyoto rly has pushed ppl away from foliage when monaco does it so well

[green zealot]

i agree, with exception to some specific small areas within the dense forest part (not the one with the elevator cashout). some are a bit too dense, and having a cashout there is rough when you want to play off point, you can’t really see when people are sneaking up to the box

[timid prawn]

absolutely no doubts

[wintry goblet]

Not being able to navigate Kyoto is 100% a skill issue

The new map is a great balance between close and long range combat, I really hope we can keep it

[tame vine]

Hi guys

[vale basin]

Sledge can destroy every map

[green zealot]

kyoto foliage has nothing to do with navigation everything to do with pc performance and shooting bamboo a lot when people are in the bamboo forest. even with fire there’s no real efficient way to clear the bamboo. the map is beautiful to look at but, and i dont mean to disrespect the design team, its completely awful in a competitive setting. it plays awfully.

[wintry goblet]

Why are you clearing the bamboo if not to get through it?
You can't shoot through it because ITS COVER
You're literally proving my point

[green zealot]

you clear the bamboo to remove cover? like on most maps when you shoot trees to open up sightlines and remove enemy cover. theres no efficient way to do that. under no circumstance is sitting ontop of an outdoor cashout a good idea, so using it for your own cover is pretty useless. Embark did a great job by removing the cashout spawns in the bamboo, and it had to be for a good reason.

[wintry goblet]

I don't clear it, I play shield, and if you don't have a sightline just move
This game has the best movement tech pretty much ever, and you're sitting there shooting bamboo?
Change your play style
Skill issue.

[green zealot]

? skill issue and movement tech and playstyle what? i dont clear it either because it takes too much time. but for example on monaco when you have the cashout in the corner near the garden at grandmas house, you shoot the trees (when teams are respawning or you know no one is pushing) in the garden to have a clear sight of the cashout, as well as the courtyard with the fountain. if you dont, you change your playstyle. i can tell youre a kyoto fan because you take such great offense at criticism about a map you didnt make.

dont come at ppl when they never came at you. dont be disrespectful when people are just trying to have a conversation with you.

[wintry goblet]

Never came at me?

Huh...

[green zealot]

? what about that offended you

[wintry goblet]

When did I say I was offended?

[green zealot]

"never came at me" linking a message clearly sharing an opinion

[wintry goblet]

In response to my opinion

And again, being bad at Kyoto doesn't mean it's a bad map

[green zealot]

is it an attack to share an opposing opinion to engage in conversation?

i wasnt dogging on your opinion i was just sharing mine

[wintry goblet]

"it's completely awful in a competitive setting"

Discord pov:

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-westfalen-gif-13950428917751165554

Imbedded error

[uncut trail]

Make all maps Kyoto

[untold karma]

Imo Kyoto is pretty good, there’s so much variation to the different areas, and it is quite open(imo). I’d only have an issue if I was running, say, a melee weapon or smth

[wild dragon]

Which maps would you bring jump pad vs zip?

[untold karma]

I always go jump pad

If I don’t just do both

[fathom harbor]

zip is really good in world tour for last second clutch steals, though ofc keep in reserve
otherwise it's jump pad 24/7

[rough tangle]

im a big zip advocate 😄 wouldnt trade it for any jumpad in the world

way more versatile imo

[fathom harbor]

jump pad has speed though

[hoary rose]

Rome map

[rough tangle]

jumpad only good for quick escape yes, and even then, when u are in air flying ur easy to beam

[rough tangle]

ancient rome map would go CRAZY actually 🔥

[fading furnace]

hi

hi

[fathom harbor]

hi

[frank shuttle]

us

[digital tartan]

What are all the maps currently in the game?

[wintry goblet]

sheild on kyoto is peak

[honest apex]

This is a map I believe

[teal tide]

Yeah Im really loving the new map. It keeps a nice balance of very close quarters in the middle with long range at the edges of the map and at the top of the buildings. Definitely my most faviourite map Embark has released yet for me.

[bitter crown]

I've also noticed that other snipers seem to gravitate towards the towers as well. I recently switched to sword and I love how easy it's gotten to find easy targets. The rest of the nap feels amazing to play, and I think a part of that is the flow of the encampments, where you are able to easily jump back and forth between buildings without worrying about the height/distance you would have from targets on other maps' rooftops.

[teal tide]

Yeah ive fought a couple snipers. The only time the map has been cheesed was where a team of mediums and lights all had long range weapons and were using lots of ziplines and going from roof to roof making it annoying for some of our teams closer range heavies to do much. But even then that was a fun challenge and I think in the end we did win that one.

[gusty scroll]

I love the style of the new map

I like the random open area with the target range, feels quite old school, and its not a bad size overall

[void fossil]

Awobabob

🫵🥶🔥

Cole palmer

🥶🥶🥶😮😮😮

[median ibex]

hi

[pastel shell]

is it me or PEACE Center is quite laggy

somehow i got 30-40fps when i get more than 60 on other maps

[versed sigil]

Underwater map 🗺️ ||Atlantis (?)||

[worthy flame]

Can we get a map that takes place in Florida? Maybe close to the beach? Would be cool to go with summer coming up

[jolly kayak]

Nice maps, i like them

[torn imp]

Whats up guys

[light ibex]

I think we need more real life places as maps

[rough tangle]

i agree, would be nice to have more variation of locations (and time 😉 ), instead of just arenas like Fortune stadium and heavy sponsoring everywhere

a big positive of Kyoto is the immersion, not much sponsor banners in every corners

[uncut trail]

Add a hunger games map

[forest sage]

No it’s not, but it wouldn’t be a bad one. Cool idea

[tiny ingot]

when remove kyoto?

[formal aspen]

Sup

The finals my new fav game 🙂

[regal summit]

Fr tho

fr

[obsidian crest]

add theed, since it's basically a real place

https://tenor.com/view/naboo-gif-27343453

[jagged bramble]

Remove Kyoto, its such a dogshit map

[sturdy mirage]

Day 182 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 162 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[devout rose]

@sturdy mirage I WANT MEDIEVAL MAP

[gaunt igloo]

Need a spaceship to spaceship map to fight on clearly :]

[pastel shell]

space map or medieval map with an event where medieval map only allows melee, and bow

[tawdry lynx]

Why not both

:)

[sturdy mirage]

What happens if the space station gets destroyed 😭😭😭

[frail tartan]

I like Kyoto, besides its optimazation

[coarse badge]

I'd like to see an 'Orf!' inspired map, or maybe even an Ivada map as well!

[unreal narwhal]

where can i sign up for tournaments

[finite prairie]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/grHxfBvJEG

this would be hell to play in and learn, and especially navigate, but like it'd be really funny lmao

[sturdy mirage]

Day 183 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 163 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[gentle portal]

1/2 year mark

[spark sage]

yippee

[simple lake]

the zipline on the skyway stadium is still remains the shortest and most pointless (fix it please)

[vivid hamlet]

we forgetting the lower part of kyoto

[simple lake]

due to bug, zipline near the construction site is super short

[vivid hamlet]

ic

[simple python]

hate kyoto

[frail cave]

it cant be that bad bro

[wintry goblet]

You're bad

[wary ore]

Map looks cool, i like the lil hidey spots too

[simple lake]

i like the look of it, but its shitty

[torpid lily]

youre bot

[wintry goblet]

You're a*
And maybe instead of complaining how about you get better at the game

[torpid lily]

[real patio]

Ok hear me out, if we ever get a capture the flag mode what if we have 2fort as a map?

[heady sorrel]

Dubai map 🤑🤑🤑 because city is rich and game is about getting rich 🧠💡

Besides Dubai at night can show THE FINALS logo displayed on the burj khalifa… similar to Vegas’s sphere in the backdrop

cuz they do light shows there so yk just makes sense imo

[bright tangle]

Waiting for an Örf Sponsorship with an Örf theme park. Maybe an inflatable Örf hammer skin for the sledge

[uncut trail]

Add Fortnite island

[fathom harbor]

oh hell nah
2fort is a bad good map
porting it would be just brining the bad

it's also way too small for the finals

also lack of destruction

[cobalt storm]

Please, remove the moolah sound when switching to your gun, keep it only when killing a player, not to everytime i switch to whatever has the charm on.

[grizzled bridge]

actually make it like a 30% chance to moo when switching to, don't want to nerf moolah too much

[raven salmon]

I’ve seen a lot of people not liking Kyoto map. It’s okay, ish. Aside from the fact that the buildings Structural Engineering is bad. The walls and floors collapse on you, making it very hard to maneuver. Good sights, I like it. But is it playable? It could be improved by making the buildings to not collapse on you while you fight. It certainly is challenging and sooo frustrating. Aside from buildings collapsing on you, are there other issues with Kyoto? I like it okay.

[spiral hull]

Guys i think i might just do it ahhhh i have to chicken jockey and whom so ever wants math homework dm me

[sturdy mirage]

Day 184 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 163 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[raven salmon]

Me. Would love a medieval map

[icy pumice]

Phantasialand in Germany would make a beautiful map. But yknow, its a theme park, they wouldn't allow it.

[heady sorrel]

I hated Kyoto at first but the map design lowky helped my team clutch up numerous times in world tour and idk how or why this is the case but I’m forever grateful and will purposely ignore its flaws

Like I can try using the analogy of it being terrible that it’s good

[wooden rune]

Don’t we all agree

[radiant quarry]

heck yeah

[livid wolf]

:3

[lavish axle]

the new TDM map is insane

probably my favorite, because it feels so real (more than other maps somehow)

[rough tangle]

Anyone know why they reworked Vegas? I just played OG Vegas and it was never a problem, it was GOOD

[fathom harbor]

Visual clutter

[proud zephyr]

I hate Kyoto

[wintry goblet]

Is it because you lose when you play on it? Cuz that's a SKILL ISSUE

[proud zephyr]

no just came off of a win on Kyoto ironically

[wintry goblet]

Cool

[proud zephyr]

looks like the shoot house from ground branch

[wooden rune]

We all do

[wintry goblet]

Just get better

[proud zephyr]

This looks like what the new tdm map is based on

[wooden rune]

No😤

[wintry goblet]

WOMP WOMP

[wooden rune]

You are definitely a sniper

[wintry goblet]

Eww no I play shield

[wooden rune]

Bruh

[wintry goblet]

???

You're what's wrong with this community

[wooden rune]

Shield? As in riot shield???

[wooden rune]

YOU ARE YOU LIKE KYOTO. It looks good but not playable, it need a revamp like Las Vegas

[wintry goblet]

WAAAAA I HATE ALL THE MAPS WAAA NERF EVERYTHING WAAAA

[rustic arrow]

ngl, kyoto is only fun in powershift

[wintry goblet]

I've never had a bad game in Kyoto

[wooden rune]

True

[fossil pagoda]

Why are we hating on others for having an opinion?

[wooden rune]

You are in creative mode then

[rustic arrow]

i have no idea

[wooden rune]

He started it. 😑

[wintry goblet]

You're just not good

[wooden rune]

Bro, I’m not the only one

[wooden rune]

Bruh

[wintry goblet]

The only people saying anything are the ones complaining

[wooden rune]

So stop complaining

We have opinions bud

[rustic arrow]

it’s just human nature to be vocal about stuff that is disliked
people who are happy with something often don’t feel the need to be vocal about it

[wooden rune]

Fr

[rough tangle]

U guys think the new event map gonna get released later for normal Cashout mode?

[bronze mirage]

anyone not like the new vegas as much as the old one? also why not just let sponsor vegas be one of the map layouts like the sandstorm?

Vegas no longer feels like vegas to me because of the change, just feels like fortune stadium part 2...Not saying I dont like fortune stadium I wouldnt mind more sponsored maps built like it, Just maybe dont take away maps that were in the game to sponsorfy them? or just make the sponsor layout be a different tileset for the original map like the sandstorm in vegas, or back in season 1 when we had security systems and turrets that would turn off and on in the map during that tileset.

[rough tangle]

Valid!

a big strenght of Marvel Rivals (best example i can think of) is that when they release a map, it's always new and fresh.

• Atmospheres are drastically different
• everytime introducing new things such as tp on the last map, or reconstructing buildings on the vampire map

The Finals could use that too, instead of just going full on sponsoring every time. Like @bronze mirage said, would be good to not only have Fortune Stadium v1, v2, v3 etc...

[chrome cobalt]

They are doing this?

[bronze mirage]

I think most maps so far in the finals have been pretty fresh and new to be fair. I think every map that has been released is a good addition to the game. But this recent season not having an actual map, but instead a redesign that ultimately removed OG Vegas is a little bogus. Would have rather just had it be a new tile set for the Vegas map, than its own stand alone thing. ALSO could have maybe been brought into the game at the mid season patch for something more new and exciting, and having a true brand new map added for a season release, just as we have been doing for the last 5 seasons

I dont think It would be too difficult to add sponsor versions of old maps for a mid season patch, since ultimately the map is already made. so I dont think it would take as long or be as difficult to do so. Of course I have no idea how to code or how making maps for video games work, but outside looking in, if the map already exists I dont think it takes as much work as creating a map from the ground up

[tender zealot]

i agree

[tender zealot]

i also agree

[formal fern]

Make a volcano map where the whole thing is lava and every time you spawn you’re burning in lava and can’t play the game

[tender zealot]

the mac 10 needs a buff

[rough tangle]

Hear me out: Paris map
And a map variant that would make it look apocalyptic, like Lumière in Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 😉

[fathom harbor]

I haven't been to Paris even though i'm Fr*nch but I'm pretty sure it'd be way too enclosed in to be playable
Worst case we have monaco 2.0 but even worse unless shit is done to improve it

Would need many adjustments, but would maybe be hype?

[sturdy mirage]

Day 185 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 165 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[lavish axle]

Damn yeah

[rough tangle]

I mean maps are never 1:1 with reality. Maybe I'm wrong haven't checked tbh. But with some few tweaks here and there, they could do a fun playable map with only the beautiful Parisian architecture and make the roof runs feel even more epic.
Doubt they would make it 1:1 and add piss and garbage everywhere with very tight streets ^^'

My point is that I just think it would be awesome to have a map, where you have a big emblematic tower in the middle. And anywhere you are in the map you can see it crumble if it gets destroyed. And Paris has that Layout.

[peak skiff]

I just want to say that i hate Kyoto

[wary sun]

+1

[marble knoll]

+2

[wintry goblet]

Wrong opinion ☺️

[marble knoll]

Bernal better

Tbh a nyc time square map would be sick

[heady sorrel]

Sweden map somewhere

[eager dagger]

Cuba or Miami map

[full flint]

-1

[peak skiff]

Technically, opinions are subjective so the is no wrong opinion

[cinder stag]

They did add back old Vegas I think

[little wind]

in some modes
i think its in quick cash

[stable garden]

is it just me or does the new map feel horrible to play

I feel like a take random shots all the time

and it's not visually clear where I am getting shot from

[rapid wigeon]

.

[frosty wraith]

lowkey I think that's part of the experience - kinda reminds me of paintball arenas

[austere hinge]

whats with the lack of maps 😦

[formal fern]

Add Verdansk

[somber smelt]

it takes a while to make them that have original ideas

[wise plinth]

@wintry goblet cursed name

[wintry goblet]

@wise plinth cursed name + skill issue

[wise plinth]

enjoy the dark souls water and walking sim

[wintry goblet]

enjoy breaking your keyboard because you cant avoid water and bamboo

[sturdy mirage]

Day 186 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 165 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[little wind]

[timid geyser]

@sturdy mirage, yes, with castles

[little wind]

As a heavy main
I need to break a castle

[trail rivet]

Another map that’s glitched, but it’s like an amalgamation of other map ideas here (whether they be fantasy ideas, or based on the real world places)

[timid geyser]

Exactly

[red hedge]

make it 168

[signal dew]

A year later and I still think a stadium set in Chicago would be an amazing addition to The Finals. I will cry LOUDLY outside of embark hq indefinetly if my demands are not met. (one chicago, please)

[wooden rune]

Me too

Kyoto needs a revamp

[wooden rune]

+3

[gleaming ice]

They just redid the cashouts lately and I think it feels more natural now

[nocturne stag]

whats wtong with kyoto

[wooden rune]

It looks great but that is the problem

It is too dense with everything and has the horrendous water

And there are too many walls that can be shot through

[wooden rune]

I’m mean on the literal map, like they did to Las Vegas

[proud zephyr]

Ong

[proud zephyr]

They tried to be unique and different but it ended up breaking the formula that makes all of the other maps so fun to play

[wooden rune]

Exactly

[sonic gust]

repeater doesnt need a nerf wtf

[wooden rune]

Bruh

[graceful herald]

Entre no TikTok para coletar corações e ganhar recompensas comigo! https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMBo35weJ/

[mossy crescent]

english only btw

[nocturne stag]

You think French people speak English
Lol

[rich hamlet]

yo

[void fossil]

ATTN: EMBARK "New map request"

🌟 Theme park with movable rides 🌟

[rough tangle]

this is brazilian portuguese.. most likely a scam dude

[fathom harbor]

Hi
I'm fr*nch
But my good sir it appears that I, Ascella might be speaking thou language

[glass rampart]

no kyoto in WT

We pray for times like this

[nocturne stag]

English isn't my language
most French people I meet in my multiple vacations there
Are very against speaking English to people that don't speak French
Great that you speak English and are willing to speak it to English speakers
But not nearly enough of your countrymen do that same

[nocturne stag]

Has French flag in bio
Automatically assumed

[left python]

max performance Kyoto runs worse than Cyberpunk on all high settings

this is the only map this happens on

I lose up to 60 frames on kyoto

can we fix or remove this map

[wintry goblet]

youre just wrong

[sturdy mirage]

Day 187 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 169 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[high dew]

Day 1 of asking for a desert map

[gentle portal]

hear me out...

ltm map covered in trees!

[wooden badge]

i like the ltm, not really many steep slopes

[wintry goblet]

sandstorm las vegas

day 1 of asking for kyoto 2

[manic talon]

Bro we want to delete Kyoto and you are asking for another one 🥀

[wintry goblet]

Yes because it's the best map

[void fossil]

L take

[high dew]

Remove bamboo forest

[high dew]

I meant like a mirage map

Also i want custom maps, like creative in fortnite

[wintry goblet]

You're just bad

[wintry goblet]

Just go play fortnight???

[void fossil]

That's true

[high dew]

Hell nah finals better

I just want custom maps

[void fossil]

Bernal > Kyoto

[wintry goblet]

The reason the finals is so good is because it's different than all the other shooters, every time it copied other games (tdm, platform wtv it is) the player count has dropped, if they keep adding other games mechanics then there's no reason to play the finals instead of anything else

They need to do more original things, instead of making it just another shooter

[alpine gust]

bernal is def better

kyoto sucks

[void fossil]

And it's not even close

[alpine gust]

fr

[proven breach]

Kyoto is so bad, especially the moving platform routes

[alpine gust]

realll

[high dew]

Kyoto only bad because of the layout

The baddest is sys horizon

[gleaming ice]

I've found Kyoto is much more manageable with the new cash outs

[wicked vapor]

Kyoto sucks

[wintry goblet]

It doesn't

Being bad at something doesn't mean that thing is bad

[void fossil]

Bro wasn't joking when he wrote the #1 Kyoto fan in his name

[wintry goblet]

It's just the best

[forest sage]

Seeing that a majority of the player base dislikes something about Kyoto, I’d say it’s likely we get a Kyoto rework next season.

I mean they already reworked Vegas; a map which very little people had a problem with, so why not Kyoto

[tawdry marlin]

Kyoto sucks

[wintry goblet]

No

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-heaven-earth-honored-one-gif-1867051690385297086

I ALONE KNOW KYOTO IS GOOD

[wintry goblet]

Unfortunate

[rough tangle]

Would be nice to not get every single map reworked, but also new ones 🙃 I dont want every map to look like the same! (like a fortune stadium V2...) I like map variety!!!
Kyoto isnt a bad map at all, stop the whinning! It's akward to play on, I agree with that, but thats the POINT of a map: different MAP, different PLAYSTYLE.

Come on people, stop critizing Kyoto, Embark needs to focus more important stuff than just giving us another unnecessary rework

[wintry goblet]

WE alone know Kyoto is good

[rough tangle]

Yes, Kyoto is good. Altho i can understand the frustration behind it. But they need to stop hating on Kyoto, or Embark will not take anymore risks and deliver to us the same exact shi- over and over again. This happening, will be very bad for the game.
Have a little faith in them, Embark KNOWS how to cook.

[desert spindle]

Kyoto is my favourite map when it comes to visuals

Gameplay wise I like Bernal the most, anyone else here ?

[stone dagger]

kyoto haters being in denial that sys horizon sucks absolute ass so they take it out on kyoto

[silent valley]

do you actually like kyoto or do you like attention

[proud zephyr]

Skyway high rise is the goated map. Good memories already over a year old now

[bitter crown]

I never realized that was the high rise map. That was easily one of my favorite maps, but I haven't gotten sent there in over 2 weeks now :(

[proud zephyr]

fr it's always a special occasion when the game finally decides to put me there

[stone dagger]

bring out the fine wine, we play on peak tonight

[proud zephyr]

I feel like I have to play well just for the map

[sturdy mirage]

Day 188 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 169 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[sullen matrix]

Hhdhhdhd

Hdhdhdh

Benihana

[regal schooner]

Idk if I was added to the roster but @sturdy mirage

[willow basin]

its sad that kyoto is so bad. i like playing a different playstyle than just rifles and stuff and it just isnt possible on kyoto. a major rework should be done to the map to make it playable. more houses, more cover, less slanted roofs. easier to navigate houses. less visual clutter. less harsh collision on bamboo so u can actually anglepad without hitting 1 pixel of hard collision 30meters into the air that stops ur momentum. more sturdy houses. smaller map overall. clearer rotate paths. etc

i feel bad for the developers that worked so hard on Kyoto. and the entire community just hates ur work. that must be really mentally painful. but we cant shy away from the fact that the map DOES need a rework, and ofcourse the map shouldnt be in as many map rotations.

theres a reason kyoto is banned on basically all comp tourneys. i see streamers only playing tdm when their next map is gonna be Kyoto.

[void fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

@wintry goblet

[sick sable]

Is the Dolphin easter egg on syshorizon still there?

[forest sage]

I agree, gameplay wise Bernal is peak

[wintry goblet]

[wintry goblet]

Isn't possible?
As a shield main I can definitively say, you're just bad

[willow basin]

wow, chill out please. u dont know me. im just giving my opinion.

[wintry goblet]

Everything you said is a problem can be easily avoided, don't bounce pad in bamboo, learn the map layout, create cover, use your movement tech
There's a reason this game has so many options for gadgets and specializations

I'm so tired of people complaining that Kyoto is a bad map because they don't know how to play anything but cod with jump pads

[willow basin]

yes there are solutions. that we all HAVE to do. but that doesnt change the fact that it FEELS bad.

Rotations are akward, holding height with rifles is just boring. the map is too open. dont forget the map also has bad performance for our homies with less good PC's.
the water mechanic doesnt add anything good to the game its just frustrating. u cant climb the houses easily like u can monaco houses. the classic 240 meter rotations.

• Kyoto is one of the only maps where if u anglepad from a roof, that u cant make it to a different roof. making rotations feel bad.

these things make the map FEEL bad. sure there are solutions but those solutions are bringing gadgets and specs into the game that u then HAVE to run.

[willow basin]

im sure that the top players are also just bad at the game and should just learn the map

i know Kyoto the best out of any map, because in season3 all Embark did was SPAM the map into rotation. by far my most playtime is on Kyoto. and i can for sure say, the map feels the worst to play

its not bad to like the map, but u cant just deny the claims of the majority of the playerbase. thats not how it works

[wintry goblet]

Im about to join a game so Yap Yap you're wrong Kyoto is great blah blah blah blah

New las Vegas :(

[void fossil]

New Las Vegas > Kyoto

[tame vine]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/xi8j3WpYbV

How high can you get on a map without bugs or glitches

[forest sage]

What counts as a bug or glitch

[tame vine]

Anything where do don’t go flying into space

[forest sage]

Because by stacking jump pads during the low gravity event, I’m pretty sure you can reach the roof

[tame vine]

The roof?

[forest sage]

That’s very vague

[forest sage]

Yah there’s a roof just like there are walls

[broken delta]

moo

[fading furnace]

hi

[solar blade]

Is this guy real?

[wintry goblet]

Yeah I lost

Got Kyoto twice today tho ♥️♥️♥️

[solar blade]

Kyoto is only good if your playing light, and even then the map is still bad

[wintry goblet]

No

[solar blade]

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve played against a triple stack top 500 team to not even have a chance with what’s being done on that map

[solar blade]

Your right the map is still bad

[wintry goblet]

[solar blade]

Self portrait?

[wintry goblet]

"I know you are but what am I" ahh responses

Go take a nap gng

[solar blade]

Took you that long to type that out

[wintry goblet]

[forest sage]

Literally everyone on twitter. Bro picks a controversial opinion and uses elementary school playground debate tactics

[noble pike]

From last season's sponsor showdown map

[proud zephyr]

Kyoto is ass

[wintry goblet]

Discord pov:

[forest sage]

my point exactly

[bitter crown]

Anyone have a favorite map condition? Mine is either high rise or suspended structures!

[wintry goblet]

Sandstorm, even if it is just los Vegas

High rise is really good to tho

[sturdy mirage]

Day 189 of asking for a medieval map with @clear gull @spark sage @earnest hornet and 170 other people. @ me and I’ll add you to the roster.

[cerulean brook]

i think an under water map would be awsome like and under water bubble with coral and fish running all around the place and its not like we would need to worry about how we breath its vr

[spark sage]

atlantis map?

[tame vine]

👍

[spark sage]

we would need a trident spear skin

[upbeat iron]

white text one a white background.. great

[forest sage]

We already got that I’m pretty sure

[cerulean locust]

People mention about adding custom maps to the game - I trust that it would be a nice decision to include maps that are worked and made by people who have the skill to pull off a good looking and well thought environment - the only thing that really is missing is the structure to allow for users to make them. Embark should definitely investigate the matter of including user generated content for the game.

[rough tangle]

write this in #👂┇game-feedback , so Embark sees it. W take

[cerulean locust]

The odds are sooooooo small though

[cerulean locust]

See it this way ;
they have employees dedicated towards the level designing and art direction - having the inclusion of user made content added into the game hurts those people and, although they would be much more useful towards the other sectors that branch from LD and Environment (Such as weapon design, player and cosmetic design, asset making, map balancing...), you would be basically taking away their main efforts in favour of allowing the community of The Finals to come up with those things.

I would LOVE to dedicate my time and game design theory and concept I've learnt from Team Fortress 2 throughout the past 7 years, from gameplay, to inclusion of movement and game mechanics to the art involved in making the environment, but I highly doubt that Embark would allow anyone without their values and principles to do the same for The Finals

[rough tangle]

I mean, custom made maps made by the community, and official maps are 2 distinct things.
Allowing us to create maps wouldnt hurt them, cuz the official maps would still be the ones allowed for tournaments and championships (esp for the Major). Even allowing us to do maps with basic props/infrastructures would be fire and help the game feel fresh.

I really don't see how giving us creative power would hurt them. It would only help to grow the community even more imo. What other game allows this?

[cerulean locust]

Throw a valve title
LoL, Rust,

I know another 5 but I forgor

[cerulean locust]

i just quickly googled about their engine - its unreal

good fucking luck integrating custom map making into unreal

https://youtu.be/jFs78NiR_fk?si=Nv6JA_6WBYzErDnw

Quote modified from the video:

"...We are looking for small teams composed of diversified artists, with each being effective in several areas, with around 100 to 120 people per project...[]"

[wispy mortar]

Amusement park map please!

[modern oasis]

I've heard a youtuber say something about this. This exact question got asked, but due to the destructible environment, the map creation studio that embark would have to make would prove very difficult or something because of the destruction engine the game runs on, even embark themselves struggle supposedly

But they are said to be looking into it

[mild birch]

i want community servers in this game like in tf2 for people to go crazy in...probably would also be good for player numbers

[cerulean locust]

something tells me that its 100% possible to automate how the engine decides what is and what is not breakable

[modern oasis]

Im sure it's a static variable no?

[cerulean locust]

i dont think so - depending on the material and asset, you can either break it into small bits or require an explosion to break it,