#📂┇the-finals-wiki
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Or cattle?
But it's a plushie of a cow 😅
Cow
Ok then I’ll leave it there
Cow is probably the easiest
you should be able to use visual editor on pages which have custom styling without it breaking anything now
awesome!
Dope
Can I ask for confirmation? Does the AKM decrease its damage when it gets far?
oki oki
i feel like i actually wanna say no
seems like there's little if not no damage drop off in the game
The only damage drop off is your ability to hit your shots at that distance 🧠
If anyone here wants to add the recent tiers from the hunt to the Wiki, that'd be greatly appreciated 💪🏻
it will be great if they added a damage number to the game like an option to enable it.
For the purpose of putting data into the wiki sure
But for actual gameplay the hp bars are all we really need
New sidebar!!
Ohhh works nicely on mobile too
And a new about section
the arena pages look incredible good
so good


Wiki team is doing awesome work at the moment, where do I join?
down the hallway and to the left
Welll, we're gonna be working on a customization section whenever we can play the game next
Which is going to require a lot of screenshots and transcribing :3
Well of course I can 🙏
For now people can try to add more details to gadgets
Overview: No more than 3 sentences long. Try to keep it short and to the point.
Uses & Interactions: You can be a bit more detailed here. If there are any standout interactions between other gadgets or specializations make sure to note it down.
I've updated all the all builds grenades already for the most part.
Would be uhh nice to be "in" on whatever you guys are experimenting with on the design/structural side too 
understand if you need to keep it hush-hush for whatever reason though
Will get to work on those pages
It's less hush-hush, just don't want to have too many cooks in the kitchen stepping on each other too much.
One I will definitely be having more outside people helping with is the Easter Egg hunt because uh, I have no fucking clue how to organize that 
I like watching chefs cook though 😭
vs
Yeah.. padlet stuff is already growing too fast
@knotty rune Which one do you think would be better? A single page for each tier, or a single page that has tabs for each tier/level?
Hmmm, good question
This is not a definitive answer or anything
I think a page for each tier would probably be better since
1 page for each tier would work better
I dislike text walls and that would be the entire tier 
Luke said that tabception was possible, how about: level tabs with sub tabs for the tiers?
That much tabception isn't possible
separate pages makes things easier to navigate
plus nobody reads that much in 1 sitting
Yeah, then I agree with fish, one page per tier makes it easier to navigate
separate pages also allows us to add images :)
I would just need to loan a few EE hunters with understanding of what is going on to help fill out the pages.
(and less overwhelming for the people reading in the future 😛 )
You won't find any 😂
Because I am a bit too busy to be spamming out EE tiers 
happy to help there too!
maybe after this current EE slog is over
Literally every single edit I have done to it was past 11pm 
Rob assumes we can get to the answer just from this new image..
he probably would be right if we could solve a single clue 😭
Hmmm
Are you able to have multiple groups of tabs per page? 🤔
That I don't know, but I'm not really wanting to use Tabber for this anymore now that we have the new design.
We can make a pretty good home page for all the EE tiers now
Because the format could be something like:
Level 1:
intro to level 1
tabs for level 1
Level 2:
intro to level 2
tabs for level 2
Tbh, I like the tabs. But I trust what you guys are doing, since you've taken a lot of good decisions so far 💪🏻
yeah i'm dumb, i thought 1 page per tier meant 1 tab per tier

dose wiki prepare open for us after release or since CB3? Or we can visit and edit it now
You can visit and edit it now
You might not be able to edit the home page
thanks 
guys does the pocket park include cannons like the royal plaza?
Idk never been there
I don't think there's cannons there, at least I don't remember them there
There is one cannon on the north side of the pocket park
It is in the little square at the top
There also used to be a cannon next to that on the stairs entering the forest part.
But only in the alpha.
Maybe we could just remove the "solver" credit and just have everyone's names in the contributions list #easter-eggs message
but remember it's not about who enters the final password, it's a team effort.!
I think having a "solver" credit encourages people to participate, which is good. In the beginning it used to be just the "solver" credit, but we thought it wasn't fair as it is a team effort, so we added the "contributions" list. I think that even if it's not on the Wiki, we'll end up keeping track of that (Like we did on the Doc, Padlet, Timeline, RHB videos, etc), so we might as well leave it on the Wiki too 🤷🏻♂️
But I see how my opinion might be biased, so I'd like to hear what others say 💪🏻
I'd like to hear what others say
Of course! Just a suggestion I thought of, we'll see how it goes down.
any thoughts on removing the fandom wiki so it isnt the first result on google
@quasi dagger how though
admins simply remove it
It's not like we're actually responsible for that existing 😂
is it just some randoms?
i assumed it was officially made then later switched to the current platform
They could always ask the fandom one to be deleted but afaik its a seperate group and they might just refuse
So Embark helped us make the "Offical" Community Wiki since they didn't want the Wiki for the game having intrusive ads. The Fandom one is unrelated and hasn't been updated since CB1
assumed so
fandom is so bad its laughable
just sucks that its still the top result for any game because of how big it is
SEO is real
That's on us, we should just post links and click them over and over to drive up engagement to the real one.
its more to do with fandoms popularity not the finals wiki specifically
when you search game wiki on google it gets a trillion results from fandom
Yeah, because it's the most clicked. You can replace the top results via usage. People have fought to keep their official merch stores above other fake ones by making sure people use their direct link to make it the most popular site with those search terms.
Unfortunately Google doesn't even remove phishing ads (people are able to buy ads that appear to have the same url as the real site, even)
A totally valid and generally harmless, even if not officially endorsed, wiki page has no chance of being removed or pushed down
google results also arent as simple as just search for something get that result
when the engine recognizes that youre searching for a wiki involving video games it will basically default to fandom
which why even after years of the terraria wiki being migrated to wiki.gg the fandom is still the first result
thats not how the internet works
I’m like 72% sure you can delete wikis from fandom
But I wasn’t aware it was fan made
Hey guys, humour me for a while about the proximity sensor. I know it detects enemies through walls, but does it detect enemies when they are facing the gadget? I barely even use it.
i need some clarifications
pretty sure it's just sonar grenade if it stuck tto wals
ohh so its like that
That’s why I never click ad searches
+they’re usually paywalls
Contestants have a wide variety of weapons available to them to dictate firefights and change the way engagements work. From a simple dagger to a rotary grenade launcher, if our Contestants can imagine it, we have it.
are you testing the embeds
No we updated the pages
I think the reason why Specializations wasn't embedded was because the content of the page was under a heading while the weapons wasn't.
idk why I though the cache would update that quick
imagine cache updating quickly 
Specializations are abilities that are available in a contestant's loadout, and each Build has different Specializations available to them. Having a choice of different Specializations allows contestants to further customize their Build to compliment a preferred playstyle.
Specializations are themed around the Build that they belong to:
Light B...
Light B...
welcome to mediawiki embeds
Is the a way to add hyperlinks in the Wiki without the highlight? I think being able to click the builds and being redirected to each specific build would be cool
Perfect!! Thank you so much! That helps a lot with the navigation 💪🏻
THE FINALS is not a hero shooter as much as it is a hero Builder. You don't make a hero, you customize them. To this effect, THE FINALS has a three-Build system, each with its strengths and weaknesses.
You can create multiple contestants associated with either the Light, Medium, or Heavy Build. Each Build has a different body size as well as a ...

heyo theres no baseball bat skin for sword. (sorry i keep coming back to say it, im sure im getting annoying)
haha I keep forgetting it was in!
do you know the rarity or cost or description? any of those would help
i honestly dont know anything i just remember buying it and keeping it on forever
never really looked at that stuff
It was a legendary, and didn't come in any packs afaik
i found this in an art folder for arc raiders, recognize it from the finals
Bro you are not a real person
Istg that HAS to be the dell logo
Not dell
Maybe fell
I’ve seen it on a computer before
It’s a irl company
it's definitely hp you're thinking of but it's not either in the game, it looks like it's dp
not in the game currently! we've yet to see that one get used
try checking the cb1/cb2 trailer on yt
I call that logo Dewlett Packard 😂
ye we’ve known about it since the start.
just in case we have all
logos in the Wiki as well under “Other Featured Brands”
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsors
That only applies to shareholders of stock companies… if you own 51% of shares, then yeah
☝️
I’m acshully it’s “ 🤓 ☝️ “ 🤓
Hp logo lmao
hey may i ask if you still have the art and video folders of the finals i really needed it just dm it to me. thanks.
That one was for ARC Raiders, not THE FINALS
i know i am just asking if they still have the finals folder IF like i was assuming if they have the ARC Raiders file then they must have the finals folder
literally unreadable /s
working overtime Smashel
AI ftw 
Literally me
Aweessssome job 🏆
does anyone know what happened to the 7th MTM episode
This one: #1118247079647662212 message
i think they just decided not to keep it
unfortunately
you sure?
we can just ask them
Embark Asylum: Lost Media 

Holy shit lost media
yes pleease
yes papa
We might re-record this topic in the future
it was a bit too short in the live format.
Well, I didn't say that haha
LOL
hahaha
At least 3 messages from embarkers in #📂┇the-finals-wiki from the last 24 hours
Huge W
Ok! Thanks SD 🙏 
Funny behind the scenes naming of the saints
i wonder if anyone in the community recorded the mtm podcasts live?
All the people I know recorded it only did the first couple episodes before it was announced they'd be uploaded to Spotify later.

Yo why have i never heard of these
Sick anyways
is it really made by the community if it's official
what is?
recordings of MTM
ye those are definitely official imo
that's what i'm sayin
right good idea
but no one probably did that :(
The wiki is made by community about an official game made by an official studio
Yes, everything on the wiki is official
wrong answer
I’ve made more edits, opinion invalid
I have 1.5k
sounds like an afternoon
Sounds like no life
says the one who's already made the edits
sure it wasn't
I have a life a swear 😭
Hush child, all will come to light
imagine knowing you have 1.5k edits
You 100% don't have 1.5k edits
I'm the most active editor and I have 740 
And I have 733 
that's cool and all, but I have 0 so I win
he wins
Honestly yeah true
is there a section with all the team names yet? I tried looking for them but could not find them
It’s closer to 1.1k, most of my edits are small things like grammar and spelling mistakes, but I’ve added some big things to pages too
link your user page
Idk if you’ve noticed from my texts, I like to not share things that could reveal info abt me
My wiki edit page is anonymous
I intend to keep it that way
But I’m not gonna edit on the wiki anymore

so this isn't you then
Are you talking about the Fandom wiki?
I made that first time lol, didn’t know it wasn’t anonymous
I can see every edit anyone has done on the Wiki in the past 30 days and you aren't on it. I trust that you're editing something but it isn't the wiki I'm in charge of 
stinky
@lone monolith where did you guys find this?
like modelled it yourselves?
gawddamn yeah I thought it was a lil different
looks v. cool!
Sponsor pages have been updated with beautiful art
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/OSPUZE
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/ISEUL-T
wait what
@lone monolith don't you have the playtest installed still
it's in there somewhere
for starfield 
Based
Thanks 
🎺 🥁 Hello wikisters!
We've done a few changes to some things and now feels like a good time to go over them! In no particular order:
- We've now got a Style Guide. It's located under the Wiki Community section on the main page. When you're working on new pages, or updating old ones, please make sure to reference the guide!
- ** MTM & RHB's Interview** with Rob have both been transcribed now. You can see them in the pre-release section! We hope it makes it easier to easily reference anything said in them!
- The In-Game Sponsors page has been updated with the Team Names & Icons, and ISEUL-T & OSPUZE's pages have also been updated.
- **TFEE **has had Tiers A-F written! Should make it easier to revisit previous tiers!
so much cooking..
does anyone have the file for the tutorial video (i want a high res screenshot) because i would like to add the diamond AK teaser in pre release
assuming nobody has objections
been meaning to do it for a while but i forgot about it
just wanna add like a trivia section to the ak page, something like that
I think the video itself flashes by it so quickly it's not that high quality
But I'd you wanna add it as a trivia bit to the AKM page feel free. Just remember to not speculate on what it might be
It says that the FCAR has a slower fire rate than the AKM but i don't believe thats true on the wiki
i think it does that why it has a smaller mag and higher damage i think
I feel like it had large recoil and pretty fast fire rate when I used it
There is a video online that has all the guns from cb2 so I’ll check that
Honestly I'd hold off on rechecking weapon stats
I have completed my trivia section if you would like to check it out and make sure its all upto snuff@lone monolith
aaah so the ak is faster fire rate but fcar has higher recoil
also would be nice to make sure the formatting isnt borked on other clients
Looks good.
Might remove the image for it tho. Figure it'll be seen eventually anyway 
it would also be nice if there was ways to have tabs so like thefinals/weapons/fcar so u can go back to weapons after
i would rather make it a unused section in the skins section but obvs dont have that build of the game to get the same angle :/
unless one of the devs is willing to chip in :)
could i edit this so they all caps
sorry for asking so much just dont wanna get IP banned lmao
Uh
Hmm
The font we use now makes all the heads appear uppercase even if it's all lowercase
but how come the bottom two contents tab arents
I have no clue 
🫠
I don't think we've said anything on the style guide about it yet
Another thing to bring up
where is the trivia page
Bottom of the respective pages
the sledgehammer is missing the bamboo pole for skins
We don't have all of the skins since
ahh
Yeah lol
sleddge screenshott hardd
the tabs will display whatever you typed in the section title, regardless of how it looks when stylized. On short pages you can just put __NOTOC__ to hide the table of contents.
cheers to who changed my sentence its much better now
@static light
I just saw the TFEE pages, really awesome work
well done everyone that contributed to making the wiki so damn good
Thank you!
Couldn't have done it without your documentation, it helped a lot.
holy crap
those are amazing
🥹
now the important stuff is writen I can push it out of my brain
just dont lol
what??
it's just so succinct 😭
I love "collaboratively guessed" here as well
Between me and Flexed we had a lot of information ready to get written down
And I gave Smashel the template for it 
I'm also working on moving the timeline to the wiki
feel free to add stuff, there's a lot that i skimmed over and didn't explain
nono the whole thing above it is super informational
I just love the timeskip between that last Nama image in April and Dev solving it in July 🤣
yeah that is quite hilarious
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Teaser_Trailer_Easter_Eggs added some old stuff to this page
Keen
hello fellow yolks 
for everyone's benefit, i'm sharing a Google Drive folder of our Wiki Assets. i'll keep it updated as we add content to the Wiki
You're the best
After the game launches remind me to help ye with assets for the pages
You da best
will do, thanks Hydro
pin that so we don't forget
Spear, are we allowed to use this for example in a YouTube video? (Ofc, crediting you)
yes ofc, this is all for the community

Time to get our boots dirty
guess who cant read (me ( || le head le empty || ) )
thank you for updating the main page!
So big
wiki people, there is new info here on the game
https://embark-studios.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-the-finals/
new ||event, new ping wheel, new unlock system with unlock currency, new arena varient||
If you are here to see new stuff after it arrives, not recommended to spoil you!
^^^
Does anyone know how we can find more lore about Namatama?
Big one
the knife section of the wiki is missing one of the legendries skins
why is my account reset ive played every beta my steam name isnt even on the account
all we know for now
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Mascots
check if there's close beta skins
yo how do i unlock weapons and such on this beta?
bc the old system seems to be gone where u would select one thing to progress towards, says something about VRs?
You buy from the "Equipment" tab from main menu
this channel is for working on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki, ask your questions elsewhere
idc about the questions rn cuz no one has responded to it
but theres a movement glitch that acts like if ur controller disconects but im on mouse and keyboard and its fucking me over
Not the correct channel for this
i just said idc
Wdc too
they need to fix the issue its been here for 2 playtest
So is anyone taking notes of the damage of each weapon
Are there actual statistics on each weapon damage?
If anyone wants to bother scouring thousands of clips to accurately jot down each weapon's damage using their own hp
Or pixel measure in the practice range
Yeah
Doing the practice range seems the best but there's the change of a large margin of error
There's a youtuber that made a video about it from cb2, but not sure it's up to date for this open beta
that is true, consitering there might be changes
Anyone spend vrs on recon senses yet so we can tell that it still works the same
I'll do that
The question I wanted to ask is if your TEAMMATES can see the enemies highlighted
otherwise why not use the grenades
@dusty quail I'm at work rn but I'll get to it when I get home
If I can enter at all with the queue
Hey guys! May i ask a question are there some changes (dmg or something) in the weapons except for the M11 cuz the suppresor doesnt exist in cb1 and 2
riot shield now kills in 3 hits instead of 4
so yeah, changes maybe
jeez
i am now 25% faster at killing people
Thanks for the info man i appreciate it
guys does playing tournament give you more than 90 vrs points than the quickplay. sorry if my questions is not for the finals wiki page idk where to ask.
i don't doubt that those points are getting changed in some form so i'm not even paying attention ngl 💀
arghh so im gonna grind just to cover them up, mann im crying
Keep in mind that this channel is only for wiki related content.
If we ever need lore building or stylize copy just let me know! Would be happy to help
Vouch 🙏
Haha hey Sugi!
King 👑
Lore on the sponsors when?
Sponsors play a major role in THE FINALS, as they are currently the main vehicle for the world and narrative of the game. Sponsors want exposure to the game show's massive audience for their brand and products/services, and sponsored gear is a sign of a success for Contestants.
we only have so much done, they are slow to reveal the lore right now
you can check my videos on lore + what Smashel sent from the Wiki
Ooohhh
is this meant to say "meatspace"
it is
i thought it was just a typo from "metaspace"
i would love to live in a world where the metaverse is called the meatverse
meatspace 
what meat are we talking about? 
“It is a principal aspect of the electric age that it establishes a global network that has much of the character of our central nervous system.”
Central Nervous System = CNS
I'm getting into easter egg territory here, my bad
Recent Changes:
Loadout https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Loadout
- Updated all official quote description for specializations, weapons, and gadgets.
- Moved "Breaching charge" to "Breach Charge"
- Moved "Proximity Sensor" to "Motion Sensor"
- Moved "Incendiary Mine" to "Pyro Mine"
- Moved "Incendiary Grande" to "Pyro Grenade"
Lore https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore
- Replaced "Mascots" link with a "Characters" link
- The characters page contains "Mascots", "Scotty and June", and "The Announcer"
- Images for these cards are still a WIP
i did some testing with lh1. so i thought incase you guys need it for calculating dps for lh1 or something i will just send it in here. markers were set exactly where shots were fired. i recorded in constant 120 fps. i did this multiple times and every time it was 18 frames from first to second
here is raw footage for the tests
big
Excuse me would you mind if I Dm you for info about the game (gadgets and specializations), Thank you!
sure
sure wait a min let me finish one game
Guys how many specialization/gadgets/weapons have you unlocked?
probably like 7 total by now
is it medium or heavy?
overall
really? i might ask some assistance maybe later.
If your discussion does not relate to the wiki, please take it elsewhere.
its kinda relate to the channel im just asking people who research all of the specializations here i just need some clips of them im also helping the wiki.
do
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to make big text
If your discussion does not relate to the wiki, please take it elsewhere.
Would the wiki be interested in TTKs and DPS checks for each of the guns? I did it for the March beta, so would like to update my figures once all guns are unlocked and for the release. Thought I'd offer assistance if it was any use
i personally would appreciate it
and would contribute if i had the VRS 😭
are all the battle pass rewards permanent?
for OB, yes
much love
Sure thing, are you looking for the figures in this beta, or just for release? As I'll need to grind a lot to get all the guns unlocked I think haha 😉
i mean we can surely wait a week
or wait for a balance change that exposes raw numbers haha
the assassin knife stats in wiki are wrong or something? i take 320 dmg to the back not 130 :/
you're looking at the wrong wiki
look at the channel description
I'll see what I can do!
considering shooting whatever weapons i have and just record myself shooting at the heavy dummy
but it's 5 am
oh ty :c whats the other wiki?
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki this is the one we're maintaining
granted it might not be completely accurate still considering we're all plenty busy playing the game after so long haha
the other one is just outdated and made by other people i guess?
pretty much none of us here do anything there yeah
don't remember the reason why but i think the ads is one of the reasons
Mainly ads and the fact you can't do like mega customization with fandom
and fandom sucks
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@heavy gale Hey lukey poo, do you know where Embark stands on data mining? Would they ever hand out game files or
I have no idea. @vagrant compass any ideas?
oof was worth a shot, this is for @tired dirge . Since he can't post here so if you got an answer please ping him for me. He's a awesome dude who did some work on Maruaders and actually another nexon game. He can go into more detail himself, sadly my brain power is too low to shill at maximum capacity.
time to ping the other CM that's online
they'll get to it once they have time
Will check!
Lmao I pinged the entire CM role earlier like a dumbi
i can't believe that's an actual thing we can do 💀
Do it just to test lmao
hell naw
aight that's enough silliness
back to actual wiki talk
is it possible to turn on damage numbers in-game to cross reference? Like in training?
For @tired dirge
it definitely isn't in settings that's for sure
In what ways can I help to contribute to the wiki?
pick your choice from fixing text, providing numbers, providing videos or pictures of certain stuff, etc
Finally I can use my friends for something 
I like proofreading
these questions aren't related to the wiki, ask them else where ||though i don't you'd get an actual answer from any of the staff anyway||
????????????????????????????????
the finals lore?
nah spread misinformation
Don't do that


Sorry if thats a random question but can anyone from the devs tell me whats osp (that yellow cane drink) and is it a real life brand or no because its so intersting for me c:
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/OSPUZE not real life
Ist croshair v2 banebal
not the correct channel for that question
Soon🙏
yet 🙏
Do we have names of the specific items of apparel?
Working on another poster like the one I did in fanworks almost like a player showcase
i don't think any of us have bothered listing out all the cosmetics
yet
Yeah it seems excessively tedious, I just want to make sure I have the naming right or at least toy with
The showcase poster is from the POV of Scotty and June introducing a player to the spectators or audience
you’d need to go in-game and grab it 
we’ve hold off on it since we don’t know what’s gonna get cut for release
Sounds good
outfits might be worth but individual cosmestics probs just a waste of time with cus some stuff might get bundled or what ever
least outfits are probs set to ship
It makes sense to wait, outfits could change, maybe the permanent rewards we could highlight, like the CB2 Tank Top or ranked rewards, they are guaranteed as individual assets that will be in the full game
at least we know that some pieces of clothes are recolors
so it's somewhat easy to compile those
Charms (to my knowledge)
Like taking a picture of very cosmetic icon and appearance? I can do that if you want.
Male and Female or?
only if you want to
i don't have the heart to tell people to take pictures instead of actually playing the game
i saw what you deleted 
They look more like badges to me
Keep on topic please
stickers
E
Well then my knowledge has failed me once again 
Ufff
what exactly are the teams winning for ?
Money money money
fame and recognition from sponsors
NOOO WHEN DO I GET GIF PERMS
Oh at next rank
Anyone know the actual rank requirement for “qualified”
1k messages
what happened if that fame led to drug addiction 
and who are the sponsors
Sponsors play a major role in THE FINALS, as they are currently the main vehicle for the world and narrative of the game. Sponsors want exposure to the game show's massive audience for their brand and products/services, and sponsored gear is a sign of a success for Contestants.
there gotta be some corruption within the organization
Might be, might not be
Hey lads a bit stupid but was doing this for @tired dirge .
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18e2_kbZy66w7nAGif4DdQjQPnqPQuLKy?usp=sharing
If anyone wants some downloadable clips of just weapon testing it's all yours. I did most weapons besides a few that he already had done, and didn't do melee
Updated to add melee
yee grind
@heavy gale
Hey Luke you're the person who founded the wiki right? I got a friend who isn't able to type here wondering if the damage values on each gun in the wiki is correct and/or how they verified it?
If you get a chance to answer can you ping @tired dirge with it?
every other brand that you see in the Arenas or in the cosmetics is a potential future sponsor - we have their logos in the Sponsors page as well
The Distinction for Sponsors and Brands is that sponsors seem to have a more material role in THE FINALS in game show actually functioning.
OSPUZE, ISEUL-T, and VOLPE either are funding it, or in VOLPE's case helping develop it or fund it? (not sure about them entirely yet).
yeah, essentially that they've been clearly confirmed in game
The FInals lore???
(Gameplay wise the Sponsors are different from the other brands primarily because they'll actually have cosmetics)
i have made videos on it since the Alpha - and that's what we've shared in the Wiki as well 
oof I missed that
no time like the present 
For now it seems like the sponsors are probably
OSPUZE, ISEUL-T, VOLPE, and maybe HOLTOW/VAIIYA.
They've showed their logos in most of the trailers now
judging how popular the finals shows in lore, it likely the sponsors are top largest companies
wonder what happen to player characters if they lose next match
we need some Meatspace lore, for sure
I'm not a founder of the wiki. I just make it look pretty with the help of SPEAR's designs.
In terms of the damage though, I think people tested how much damage the gun roughly did during CB1 or CB2
Ah okie doke, apologies I got a horrible memory but thanks
Also @tired dirge ^ there's your answer
(I'm not the founder of it either but I am the lead of it) For the most part the weapon damage stats are just guesstimates.
For the gadgets I just went frame by frame estimating roughly how much damage they do per tick.
Gas grenades are definitely outdated now as their dmg per tick went up drastically.
Oh apologies, @heavy gale horrible memory. I think I misremembered you saying he was the lead. Instead of vice versa
Also thanks for the info spooks, @tired dirge is just really into datamining and like helping wiki stuff from what my small rat brain understood. Hopefully he can work with you guys to make the wiki even more amazing. I am but a simple messenger cause he doesn't have the roles lmao.
I know he did alot of work on marauders wiki stuff (if im right) if you've ever played it and kinda want a rough reference, Though I'm sure he could do a much better job of like explaining what he hopes to do better than I can
i wonder what real life look like outside the finals virtual world
Either a utopia or a complete dystopia
since it take place in far future, either there a war for resources or they went to space and farm the resources from mars and the moon
Make sure the stuff they datamine is public information, no leaks! Theres a section on it in the style guide.
inb4 it's
ARC Raiders
@tired dirge ^^^^
i heard people didn’t like the game because they changed it from pve mode to free to play extraction shooter
I hears stuff about that, i think use to be pvpve
Hope they didn't scrap using robots
anybody knows the damage output per hit of each weapon
I don't have a number, but I can get shots to kill
the majority of info I have is from the March beta, but there's been changes and I'm in the process of updating
Surely not the first to ask but is there plans to age pages for level rewards? I know up to level 20 what items you get but from then on I have no clue
probably once we get full release

I seem to be getting this error at the top of the wiki
does anybody have any footage someone cloaked infront of them? like in the practice range for testing I mean, could be nice to see how the cloak actually looks to other people. would also be good to add to the wiki somewhere I think
Being looked at
I have someone moving in front of me, not got any where they stand still as it wasn't a controlled environment. Would that help at all?
DW about it I'll see if I can get someone to do a test for me
You barely see them unless you are actively looking for them, but you will hear them before you see them usually
same error for me
Lets go MONEY!!! 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰
updated the glitch trap stack size 🙂
I am really hoping sponsors almost act like Destiny 1 Factions, For Honor Factions or Sea of Thieves reputation where you can pick a sponsor that has a design style you like, and build up reputation with them to get more and more tiered gear. I want to load in and see an outfit, having it mean that a player has pushed all the way up in a sponsors eyes.
Contracts, and stuff as well as killing players of an opposing guild granting you rewards. It would massively help with audience retention and replayability. They have the ecosystem for it. If I had the time or incentive I would sit and develop a system for it but I am sure someone at Embark already is tasked with doing that.
https://www.ign.com/wikis/destiny/Factions_and_Groups like this and you would commit allegiance to one, and it would be public information. In terms of the Finals, it would be cool to see the players name a certain highlighted color or having a logo next to it as they load in
Pledging allegiance to a Faction will enable you to gain Faction reputation points whilst simultaneously earning Vanguard reputation points, too.
Ranking Up will sometimes come with reward packages, and you can use your Legendary Marks to purchase gear from your faction of choice.
military defense company sponsors when?
Some of them likely are, we don't have confirmation on what most of them do, only guesses
i wonder if military use the finals arena to recruit players to army, like cod for example
IRL the Marines advertise heavily at Halo tournaments so that would not surprise me in the slightest if in universe that is a thing. I would also imagine that the armed forces would have sponsored players like now, think US Army football or US Navy Esports
I love world building, and this game has so so much potential to go far. I really hope it lives up to how far it could go. They have such a good foundation.
Lastly little bit on the concept of factions/sponsors I talked about earlier. In Destiny 1, there was branded everything from each faction. All had distinct designs, styles and personalities and there were only 5. The FINALs could go so much farther. Weapons, apparel, gear, stickers, name plates, badges, kill feed tags, etc.
I agree, I like the implications of this Full Dive-esc ESports world. There's a lot of room for both colorful characters, but also real world ties and issues to be brought in. I'd imagine there's disagreements fought through the VR space, maybe not war-creating conflicts, but enough for IRL politics to leak into it, and back out.
Especially with "Meatspace" sponsors like OSP, very clearly advertising for the real world in the virtual one heavily, so there must be an economy and value in doing so
Not to mention the amount of clout having someone from, say, a nationality or demographic winning in this world would bring their peoples. Isuel-T sponsoring Korean teams very heavily in the hope that they'll win and indirectly bring more attention to Korean brands (and thus boosting the Korean Economy), for example.
Yeah The FINALs has a chance to really make a good universe here, not just a good game. It lets casual players acknowledge the brands and the intense players really get into it
i heard the game take place in 2100s so the real world either a hellhole or they manage to colonize mars
That too- What's the real world like in this?

There's a ton of speculation I could and want to make but- a lot of it is baseless (and also I don't know how much is there, given that I just joined not long ago and am mostly glancing at the wiki)
we just have to wait to gain more information from devs
hopefully they reading this all of this
I hope they are and take the faction system into thought, and see how much the community wants to explore the universe they are creating through lore or interactions out of game
I am interested in contributing to the game's development by sharing some creative ideas, images, and conceptual designs. I believe these contributions could enrich the upcoming game release and allow players like myself to see some of their visions come to life. Could you please guide me on the appropriate channels and contacts for sharing these ideas? I would like to ensure that my efforts are not in vain but rather contribute positively, confidently, and joyfully to the game's development. 
depending on the year arc is set in, that could make sense, as in like, the finals take place way after arc raiders story
the best way to do it is contacting the team through ModMail
it’s just fun speculation, we’ll see how it turns out 
if you lose a match, do your sponsors kick you out and you become homeless?
what we have on the Wiki is all confirmed lore. it’s what i’ve discussed in my videos, so you don’t have to worry about speculation in the Wiki 
you collecting more lore stuff from this Open Beta?
I would think toward football sponsors, if the team is consistently losing, their reputation drops, but winning brings it back up and they gain more incentives. Someone getting dropped by sponsors then having to regain the status would be cool
yeah this is vr world so the sponsors can always replace the players with other million players
Take notes Embark
football players are hard to replace,
pro vr players on other hands, can always replaceable, welcome to meatspace
i did, i have a video lined up — but i refrain from EEs or very vague tidbits
we’ll be updating the Wiki after OB
I would contest that, look at esports players, thousands of players in CSGO, only the top few are worthy of teams, sponsors and contracts. I would imagine that the VR Sponsor world is a lot like our pro esports sponsor world rn. Millions of players, almost none worth it
It would also be cool to be able to gain a "Partnered" status, like a "OSPUZE Partnered Contestant" where they have some sort of marking in game. It is the top 50 of any given sponsor

I imagine it taste citrus-y like a Full Throttle or Nos, similar branding to NOS
well the brand drink say it no sugar,all power, but we all know about corporate corruption
Sugar water
The Finals based in a VR world where actual players take on the role of a digital player that fights for the top in a competition studio set aired live and watched live by the world in a VR world full of destruction chaos and lets not forget team work can you reach the THE FINALS
Thank you for the answer. I'm already familiar with EggMail, but not with ModMail. Where exactly can I find this and how can I access it?
right click on EggMail and press "Message". then follow the instructions to send your inquiry 
i just realized these are sd cards that are loaded in vr to set the stage
my fucking god this lore is DEEP
I feel an STL or OBJ file coming from someone in the community
I already made myself an IRL version of the golden holo OSPUZE sticker so I can put it on my airsoft gear
random video for finals lore
the maps might have hidden lore
the creators childhood memories?
Wow, what a great video ! I subscribed and liked !
not mine tho 
you wouldn't know who made that video, would you?
Does anyone know the damage output for the lewis and the drop off damage?
oh shit i can chat here now
welcome to the cool club
keep it wiki related though, this isn't to chat

Need that render tbh
About the Double barrel SH1900, the damage value on the wiki shouldn't be 150 as it can 2 shot a 350hp heavy, im suspecting it deal at least 175
got it from here
Thank you master chief
can someone edit the eggs passing you the boof
Maybe
For damage testing: Does the Practice Range body types match the health values of the actual contestants?
yeah
I second this
is there a text chat in the finals?
thats ... really bad ngl
using team vc doesnt help if 90% of the people i play with either dont have mics or dont care to press k at the start of the match :C
like i dont mean to be negative but every online game i can think of in the last 20 years has some form of text chat
personally speaking I'd rather no text chat if it means my mute teammates dont get to flame me for them falling off the map 
or for running melee
Hey this isn't wiki talk
Get outta here
Already sensing difficulty looking at damage numbers for things like flamethrower and shotguns. Wonder if the Devs would be kind enough to put in floating damage numbers in practice zone only to assist?
Only as it'll be hard to judge how consistent a shotgun can be outside of full pellets landing as we won't know a per pellet number, plus flamethrower has a damage tick and then ticks for the burn effect afterwards 😅
more in depth stats would be nice even on the gun overview screens and for items, like cloak duration 12 secs ect
they should all so automatically calculate winrate

Cloak max duration, but you can turn it off and on and they should note that aswelll
You can count the amount of pellets tho?
I've got the pellets, the problem with the HP bars is it's a little hard to get a specific Damage number. Like each bar is 25hp (iirc) but any chips into a bar would be guessing and could be out by 1, 2, 5 points etc
Oh like that, there is no custom games yet ofcourse, I guess testing on light dummies would be best then
Like I love the damage of the SA1216, that thing chunks! But if I needed to guess when it falls off damage wise, or if it's a linear decline in damage per pellet, or how many specific pellets need to land etc it's nigh on impossible (or so it feels from my side)
175 seems correct, if all pellets connect.
slightly over 175
Hey did anyone see if Recon Vision on medium shares spots with your teammates?
I can test it out later today if no one has
i swear it doesn't
Where can I find the lore ?
i've covered it on my videos and it's what we have on the Wiki as well. there haven't been major developments as of yet
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore
Can I see the video?
you can check my channel, it's on my profile 
(i haven't done the Open Beta yet, but not much hasn't changed)
@unreal yarrow I recommend watching spear's videos on yt
I watched
does anybody know if there is skill based matchmaking
Nopeeeee that would make it so much better , always have a random who runs and it and can’t communicate to us where he sees them
As to when my friend runs it in a pre-made it’s quite OP he can see people all the way across the map and he can comm exactly where who is pushing
The second you hit D4 you get the diamond ak tied to your account and you receive it when the game drops right?
yes but this is the wrong channel to ask
i forgot which dev it was but could we get a image for the diamond AK
on the skins section
also i have the diamond sledge if u guys need a pic just insturct me on framing the image
mb
yet
AKM skin can be found in the #1169229124028616774 channel
we know
it's just not positioned in a way that fits in with how these guys did the rest of the skins
Wrong channel dummy
not wiki
oops lol
So the Rival to OSPUZE is probably Tiger? or T:Ger?
i called it Tiger on my videos for readability purposes
considering the skin resembles a tigers’ pattern, it’d be safe to say it’s Tiger for now 
OSPUZE has no rival, no other company will match them 😛
It's part of the lore... we have OSPUZE, and then everyone else at a lower level

i just learned something new
heavy can throw objects further than medium and light
medium and light throw the same distance
who is this character?
I think it might be Sofia Petronelle (OSPUZE's CEO)
Part of me wanted to say that but - it's very baseless. (At least to my knowledge.)
I think she's The Finalist™️
we don’t know 
Mommy

We don't know yet. My guess is it's June as Scotty has said he was a contestant prior so it stands to reason June might have been a contestant at some point.
Is the ingame universe like irl but waaaaaaay in the future or alternate reality or on a different planet type deal?
it takes place 2100
which possibly means different planet because earth would be shithole in far future
Damn ill be a 100 then
I think it'd be pretty cool if like the massive stadium has like ads for ingame items floating above the actual arena type thing, and in between tourney rounds
what is this channel used for lol
lore
Deepest of lores
wiki related things
Is the lore that the characters are trapped in an amazing digital circus arena?
THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100. It is the greatest virtual game show on the planet, with a large, global fan base, and considered a window to a bigger world outside of the real one - known as the Meatspace. But most people spend their time in the Virtual World. Contestants join through VR-techno...
wtf actual lore
are there lore reason why seoul always get picked?
what is sequl
there's no sequel yet
just the first game so far
it the map name 
You mean Seoul?
yea, the ingame word style made me thought the O was Q
Best map tbh
They way I misread so badly by "June as Scotty" The plot grows
what time does the beta end?
Do we have data on weapon damages or other stats?
do we know about the ingame creator of the final arena?
Maybe
@gaunt pond didn't you upload recordings of weapons
Yeah here, I'll link the file but it was less dmg stuff and more just so @tired dirge could get some data on frames or something to that effect
Not really dmg apologies
All good I was just trying to find out the differences between weapon dmgs etc. I’ll look into this and hopefully when it comes out we can get those dmgs finalized 🫡
I was looking into the Lewis to see how I can most effectively use that 💀
Courtesy of @tired dirge
Sheet3
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is extremely WIP :D
This document is...
I can see some glaring mistakes
But looks mostly alright
@tired dirge Was wondering if you could clarify
well here's one
grenade launcher having a heavy swing damage
@tired dirge ^
Also sorry he cant type here yet
He says thank you btw
can clearly see that light weapons went first haha
there's also these that clearly don't exist in the game
unless... 👀
Lmao @tired dirge did you per chance use the same file from Marauders?
@tired dirge ^
I have a file that can be used if needed, unfortunately it was last fully updated before the hotfix in march that changed a few weapons and how the LH1 performs
I wanted to get in and test more this beta but personal reasons cropped up, but I'll be looking to fully update on launch/another beta
beta ended and we haven’t got any new lore yet
Ello the-finals-wiki people, idk if this exist yet, but i made a nutritional value thing for ospuze with an ingredients list that i think would fit the brand and taste nice. Was wondering if this is lore accurate 🤓
we did get a few new tidbits
Im sure once the actual release happens we get a ton of new lore
WE NEED THE FINALS NOW !
true!
Yeah Its quite an addicting game
Very much so
are there any plans to add any information about the destruction system to the wiki? I think it'd be great to have a page dedicated to things like "how do you knock down the bridge on seoul" to "what is the easiest way to level different types of buildings" and everything in between
still trying to figure out how to destroy the crane
2 rockets to the shaft
Or red canisters
tf a shaft 
That long part, we shoot 2 canisters at it and it went boom
Might have been at the connection with the platform, but yeah 2 is enough

Also did you know it can rotate left and right
i wish it fall exactly way as battlefield hardline to cause more destruction
Certainly is a shame that it just bounces off buildings
mfw i thought it going destroy half of the building but it get team rocketed blast off

Most of the buildings follow this rule; knocking/destroying half of the foundation will collapse it
And for the hanging cubes its destroying two of the chains that are next to each other, not opposite
Caffeine content label missing :(
The Fcar is missing entirely from the finals wiki, where did most people get the guns number stats?
you're probably looking at the wrong wiki
the fandom one is outdated and unofficial
Cl-40 does less to the body I believe. At least when I tested in the prac range this beta. (Also just look at that ttk horrendous).
Yeah, I really dislike fandom. No matter what, they'll always show up first in google searches. It'll hamper the adoption (and awareness) of the actual Finals Wiki.
Barotrauma's official wiki just barely gets over the Fandom one in Google's searches.
The Hollow Knight wiki community is another in a long line of wiki communities choosing to leave Fandom behind. But why is that? What is it about Fandom that is pushing so many communities away recently? To answer that question, I talk for 22 minutes and 18 seconds.
Check out the new Hollow Knight wiki here:
https://hollowknight.wiki/
Download...
this part
@tired dirge ^
Lmao did they wriggle into here as well?
They just infect everything don't they
why is there nba there

Cause the finals of the NBA idk lmao
God damn look how far down the official is, you suck Fandom
Lmao look at the fandom wiki and it's plastered with ads, and imo pretty badly made.
Then you go to the official, zero ads, easy to get around and just looks god
not having dps makes me sad😭
just realised yeah the fandom wiki and the actual wiki are two different things

wait whats wrong with fandom in general?
idk I never see ads tbh
On fandom?
Ad blocker ftw
the v9s stats are really crazy what is this
Lmao probably why you don't see them. Without a blocker it's plastered
never noticed it was a 3 shot head shot to kill lights
It's owned by a big company that doesn't care about the fandom's it's aquired and instead pushes loads of ads, autoplaying videos, and more onto the wiki's under them. They have a lot of clout with Google's Search Engine, tending to dwarf other (even offical) wikis about a subject. Some other issues that I've heard too that I can't verify rn so I won't state them.
It's just a sucky group that's done sucky things and has a massive monopoly on fan content rn.
interesting, food for thought
Also actually, why does the model 1887 have the weird reload situation happening. you cant cancel animations straight into shooting, and everytime you reload it pops out a shell
wild honestly
if you can click fast its really op
two hits of any explosive or righclick with sledge anywhere on the base will drop it.
Technically there does not have to be a caffeine label as the caffeine in my concept comes from organic sources like green coffe and green tea whereas if it was synthetic then id have to add it
add more bullets in Fcar mag
i found some video files related to adding store currency
you need bink video player to see em tho
also seems like the ballerina stuff is still planned
Wdym, adding store currency?
basically these but for the finals
obviously we dont have the values for them yet just found it interesting also these are i didnt decrypt these or anything like that
they are video files but its just like smoke overlayed
Interesting concept
these are official :)
not very surprised tbh, hopefully its just for cosmetics
ye, these were present in previous CBs
hear me out, cosmetics you can grind for with freemium currency and cosmetics that can only be brought with premium currency
so overwatch style?
i hope its more apex like with the transactions but this is gettin OT
Pretty sure thats how it worked in the beta, you were just handed the premium at the start. And the “freemium currency” was just xp.
Fortnite❌
doesn't matter if you aren't talking about the wiki
hey guys i think ttk needs to be updated for the sledgehammer anyway how are y'all doin
No
give us lore 
stop

lotta boring ppl in the wiki channel
because this is not supposed to be entertaining
This video game wiki is SERIOUS business.
would the wiki have videos of gadgets? i want to see how some of the items behave like motion sensor gadget
only if somebody bothered to record it working
I actually have a clip where it's working I think lol
pog
its actually very short to see it
in retrospect should've done the sensor first and then c4 :p
we’ll eventually get to it when the game releases. we still don’t know how they might change. same for weapons — tho we have all the animations from CBs for those
Anything I can do Photoshop related? I'm bored
not a wiki discussion 
No I mean, can I do something for the wiki
smh
hey whats this page for?
is it special weapons? (also what defines a special weapon)
real question is what the fuck is this page
and how did you reach it
i was just saying that politely
random page button lmao, I was gonna look for spelling errors
that's certainly a way
@lone monolith https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special you got any idea what this page was used for
i could use the view history but idk how to read any of that 💀
this is an artifact of the olden days
i dont think it's even linked anywhere
I think it was originally going to be for gadgets that happened to function like weapons? Not entirely sure.
Interesting
very interesting
.
yeah no don't do that
No one talks in this chat
because it's a wiki chat
Alr mb
bc
No talkin
Is it a bad idea to try creating a page for something if you're fairly new to wiki editing?
Not at all! Worst comes to worst it'll get rewritten by someone who knows more! As long as everything you write is correct, you should be good
feel free to contribute as you like, you can always ask in this channel for feedback or revisions 
Create a lore wiki page
you mean, lore of the wiki? 💀
Plenty of that
you wouldn't know that
#📂┇the-finals-wiki so not this?
Because that requires my own reading of this channel. I want someone else to write a summarized story of every event of this channel
read the contribution history
Ooh
anyone have high quality pictures of the trophies in the practice range?
Kinda?
Didn’t even know those were a thing but that’s dope
Y tho
so we can document it dumbo
are there lore reason why they made the panda outfits to be the front cover of the finals?
im thinking it was just "pandas look cool"

Just the keyart for CB2
(I think at some point this was supposed to be the keyart for OB but they ended up not doing it)
kind goofy looking to me, i get it
Oops sorry
gofy ahh
mascot on keycart would look cool too
this is related to the wiki how exactly 
Character too close
kind reminder this a space for the wiki discussion, not moolah
!
no gif, smote, sticker here, it's wiki only
finally, we're free!
it seems like we need a lot of pics for things like grenades, their pages dont have any
They will have pictures soon, I took pictures of all the gadgets during OB
ah alrighty :)
i just assumed that nobody had them, i was willing to grab some pictures when the game released
please stop hopping channels to check on cooldowns. this will be considered as spam
Mb
I added battlepasses from past CBs to the battlepass page.
But I forgot to ask, should there be only one actual battlepass or others can too?
what are you asking?
Should there be one actual Battle Pass on the Battlepass page or can there be others?
the battle passes that exist
i think there can be others, i mean maybe there could be separate pages for each?
If you can somehow collapse sections with old battlepasses, then why not leave them on one page?
this tbh
and it's not as if we have so many battle passes already that even having them collapsed is overwhelming
But anyway, how can you collapse sections on a wiki through code?
thats true
whered you find that page
BP will change once the game releases with Seasons. we already have planned how to arrange them, this format is only temporary
here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Battlepass
it's also accessible from the Main Page
as a general rule, if you see something in the Wiki that isn't fleshed out yet in terms of format/content, it's either because we haven't updated it after OB or we are waiting for release to do so
i cannot for the life of me find it in main page 
quite literally a whole clickable banner for it 
we'll adjust so it's easier to understand
i think rn it isn't linked on the menu because we will change it eventually like i mentioned 
Man what yall wiki people do?
wik stuff
Damn so yall just wikiing about
write
Have you guys allready writen everything about the game that could be at this point?
nope
Oh what are the missing parts?
theres lots
the battlepass could be like the fortnite one
if you're saying that as a suggestion i'm telling you this isn't the right channel
Is it more about cosmetics/maps then abilitys and guns
yeah so far aint nobody's bother putting in all the clothes and stickers and shit 
yeah, we're waiting until full release before even attempting to do all the cosmetics in the game
I hope they but some lore in to some of the cosmetics like dark souls so yall have something to do
that's more #easter-eggs kinda deal
Still that would be something to document not just white t-shirt blank blank
are you considered head of the wiki?





