hey @lone monolith can you add h3 { overflow: visible; } to the Common.css? 
#📂┇the-finals-wiki
heavy gale
burnt urchin
Ey
I got assets that can help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946555235
dusty quail
Ey
I got assets that can help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails...
RIP the WIP ones..
dusty quail
I had this done weeks ago lol
plenty of time smh
now the wiki will be incomplete foreverrrrr...
burnt urchin
For some reason some of the logos there are gone?
I'm going to re-check and correct those
heavy gale
forever and forever
burnt urchin
I think I can't edit the guide anymore since that steamid app (closed beta) got locked out
I can upload those somewhere else tho
lapis kindle
ye what i mean is you can follow the brand visual identity from here and in-game. there is a clear style for it 
shell mauve
trueeee
heavy gale
we shall make it the best wiki ever somehow
shell mauve
Haha
heavy gale
I mean, give it about a year and fuck load more helpers and maybe someone who knows how to create mediawiki skins
shell mauve
You don’t want to take all the honor 
heavy gale
you can have all the honour
heavy gale
heyyy, I don't do this for recognition
shell mauve
Haha never meant to say you were xD
I do think its good if we do some kind of proofreading system when everything we have brewing now is finalized.
heavy gale
I agree
how's the gadgets/specialisations going?
"When teamed up with Cat Mom do not let her ever put this in her loadout. She will flash you with it, she cannot be trusted! " 
shell mauve
I’ll pick up healing beam, evasive dash and mesh shield
shell mauve
"When teamed up with Cat Mom do not let her ever put this in her loadout. She wi...
Haha don’t read the goo grenade in that case
heavy gale
haha, nice
shell mauve
I’m gonna work on defibs, breaching charges and explosive mines too
But not tonight, got to sleep because aussie gp tomorrow
heavy gale
fair enough
shell mauve
But worry not, its all in the works
heavy gale
I shall never worry when stuff is in your hands
shell mauve
Yeah thats how these cautionary notes appear haha
lone monolith
hey <@456226577798135808> can you add h3 { overflow: visible; } to the Common.cs...
That's one of the special pages you sent right?
I need to start bookmarking them 
heavy gale
lone monolith
What does it do?
Trying to make sure we have them commented so we don't accidently nuke the style in a few months working on it
heavy gale
basically for this instance that I need it: stops that from happening if I resize the window
so it moves the H3 header to the bottom of the infobox
lone monolith
heavy gale
it also allows that to happen which is not the best however as it's only H3 and used for headers, shouldn't have to worry about it
heavy gale
oh god
lone monolith
Alright
I have all of the code for the color changes saved just commented out
The page should be back to the white we're used too
heavy gale
we'll somehow get a dark theme sorted for it
with the colours of finals
guess something like this for the mean time
but modified to our use and our colours
heavy gale
we could use that, yeah
lone monolith
The problem is we'd need someone from Embark to do that
heavy gale
true
we would need to use the v1 version of the skin though and not the v2 as I don't think our MediaWiki version supports the newest ones as I can't seem to get it work
Version 1 looks like this though http://vps-7a93429a.vps.ovh.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
still looks nice
also being able to change the page width to your liking is interesting and works well
I wonder if we could convince Embark to give us (aka you or a CM) SFTP access to the mediawiki directory
allows us to add any extension/skins and edit the LocalSettings.php without having to annoy them
lone monolith
I'll ask on Monday
I can't promise anything as that is probably a giant security concern but I will inquire.
heavy gale
worth a shot
lapis kindle
idk i didn’t see this. i’ll allow it 
lone monolith
lone monolith
idk i didn’t see this. i’ll allow it <:spear_lol:839199209425338429>
Congrats Lorekeeper 👑
sweet locust
Lore keeper
heavy gale
lore keeper
shell mauve
ok time to write some shit
sweet locust
lets go
shell mauve
sweet locust
bro you forgot thing
shell mauve
add thing I missed
sweet locust
you forgot to add "will break your entire wrist trying to tracking them"
sweet locust
povich is cooking
sweet locust
nah make it the most controversial
shell mauve
shell mauve
🙂
sweet locust
it was perfectly balance
manic reef
750
shell mauve
awesome.
ok i'm done for now
small bits each day
hehe I put it in the main chat
and I can conclude nobody read the second sentence.
heavy gale
manic reef
Beau certainly did
shell mauve
@empty light we do all the wiki stuff here
heavy gale
empty light
<@618702398394728458> we do all the wiki stuff here
ok thanks
shell mauve
I generally bother myself with strengths and weaknesses
check some of our other pages to get the feel for what we got going rn and feel free to write something for the cloaking device 🙂
try not to write it critically btw, its not a "feedback" page so to speak hehe
heavy gale
I was thinking in the future, would it be worth having the skin pictures in the table with the skin names/prices instead of a gallery?
shell mauve
That was my original plan but the current images are not consistent enough for it
heavy gale
true
shell mauve
thats why i hope we can get our hands on renders at some point
empty light
alright i will try to write something for the cloaking device page
heavy gale
have fun
shell mauve
when you're done, make sure to tell so we can give some feedback 😉
and compliments ofc
heavy gale
H3
empty light
ok thanks!
Wait 3? seems kinda small compared to the ones in the already existing pages
empty light
ah ok
shell mauve
the weapons pages are veryshallow so don't have alot of hierarchy (yet)
heavy gale
why would they put sub-heading 1 as H3, sheesh
shell mauve
xD
sweet locust
heavy gale
wonder if the devs thought about the manufacture of the guns (e.g. Namatama made the V9S)
stiff dove
hey, what do yall think about renaming the heading "Introduction" to "Setting"? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page#Introduction
or background
heavy gale
I think background would be better than setting
shell mauve
well its based on real life guns.. so
stiff dove
but would Background be better than Introduction? i personally think introduction "looks" a bit off
shell mauve
healing beam is clearly cold war tech 
heavy gale
it's based on RL guns however not real names and it would feel nice lore wise if they had like weird manufactures that aren't "Kalashnikov"
heavy gale
but would Background be better than Introduction? i personally think introductio...
I think Background would be better than Intro
heavy gale
isn't that the whole reason we have M11 instead of Mac-10, LH1 instead of like M1A, so could be like OSPUZE M11 and I guess still keep the Kalashnikov AKM
and yes, I did just make OSPUZE into a gun manufacture
stiff dove
and yes, I did just make OSPUZE into a gun manufacture
^
heavy gale
I know, it's just an example instead of having RL manufactures attached to the guns
heavy gale
great energy to fire our guns
heavy gale
so we just link it to it's inspiration
yeah, true
empty light
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Defibrillator
how do i add a video like here ?
shell mauve
I just get clips of a video and yeet thme into ezgif.com to make agif out of it
of max 5 seconds
empty light
and how do i insert them
shell mauve
let me show
insert, image and media
then uplaod it
give it a clear name (doesnt have to be perfect but clear enough)
shell mauve
then just follow the instructions
stiff dove
alright so I think I'm gonna rename "Introduction" to "Background" on the main page. I think it flows better with the page, since technically we already have an introduction above "Introduction"
empty light
alright for some reason the video is a bit weird but everything else https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cloaking_Device
quasi echo
try compressing it more
empty light
i will do that when i come back i gtg now
quasi echo
fixed some grammar
shell mauve
we need to probably find a clip that also includes movement and action.
because now it just looks like your disappear.
unreal mortar
can you use an actual video instead of a gif? gifs have HORRIBLE compression
shell mauve
gonna add some details one sec.
shell mauve
can you use an actual video instead of a gif? gifs have HORRIBLE compression
that might be an option yes, also since the sound is an important factor.
unreal mortar
you can maybe try .gifv, which is just a .webm/.mp4
stiff dove
i don't know if the extension supports it though
shell mauve
probably easier to have an .mp4
stiff dove
while I think looping as in gifs is cool for e.g. ability showcases
unreal mortar
shell mauve
alright for some reason the video is a bit weird but everything else https://www...
good job though 🙂
another addition near completion 😄
unreal mortar
not sure about the specifics of embedding it on websites, but gifs should never be used as a video format
stiff dove
mediawiki doesn't mention .gifv as supported, could try it out regardless, but i need to leave for now
shell mauve
I fucked up.
heavy gale
what'd you do?
shell mauve
#⚡┇the-finals-chat clearly said something to enable some folks to go rogue
unreal mortar
heavy gale
we already have https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo
shell mauve
so some white names are basically completely missing the point of the wiki as we are building it and want to build a fandom/wiki.gg page
sorry beau.. didn't expect .. this
tropic fjord
Don't take it too much on yourself to be concerned with that. We've added our official wiki links to both #👋┇welcome and #📌┇faq to ensure everyone is aware it exists.
The reason this chat is higher role locked is to avoid a large amount of off topic and non-contribution that could stress you guys more than assist you for the time being as we figure things out.
stiff dove
at the point where he wrote he worked at fandom, I stopped typing instantly xd
tropic fjord
We don't like gatekeeping or community in any way, I say it wholeheartedly, but we're trying to ensure everyone is comfortable as well!
Not the first person to arrive asking for us to change wikis and will not be the last.
unreal mortar
we already have https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo
I dont think theyre the same thing
lone monolith
i will do that when i come back i gtg now
If you need help with the video when you get back just lmk. We've got a way of doing it and I'll help you with it
lone monolith
I'm doing good
sweet locust
do we have any Sawed-off Shotgun/ sword and SA1216 skins anywhere
shell mauve
does anyone have a clean clip of:
- Breaching charges used
- Healing beam used
- Cloaking device in action (without chatter/music)
sweet locust
i can go look
stiff dove
I should've recorded all my playing sessions 😢
shell mauve
My clips are all.. well..
I got a explosive mine clip but its not "normal"
let me poop out the gif
heavy gale
I have this one
shell mauve
shell mauve
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072100368852451388/1087838785460514887/M...
perfect clip!
sweet locust
lets go
heavy gale
most of my clips have music in the background
empty light
does anyone have a clean clip of:
- Breaching charges used
- Healing beam used
-...
I might still have a clip of the cloaking device not sure though will check when i get home
heavy gale
or something like this for cloaking
empty light
or something like this for cloaking
that looks good
shell mauve
or something like this for cloaking
nice, I can actually use this without making it a gif xD
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Breaching_Charge @sweet locust 
sweet locust
breaching charge skins when
empty light
heavy gale
it's a shame it only shows a still frame unless you click on the gif
sweet locust
is there a plug in for that?
heavy gale
looks like it's a limitation of just MediaWiki as it says "Note: Due to technical limitations, thumbnails of high resolution GIF images such as this one will not be animated. "
we could change this setting though by the looks of it https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxAnimatedGifArea
stiff dove
https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler
this is another alternative modern webplayer extension, could be a possible solution. but that would mean adding another extension or maybe even replacing the current player extension
heavy gale
I would say we steal https://github.com/StarCitizenWiki/mediawiki-extensions-EmbedVideo considering it's basically forked original EmbedVideo however slight improvements like being able to autoplay + loop videos and muting them
unreal mortar
yeah gifs suck
sweet locust
heavy gale
not sure why we started on 1.35 unless MediaWiki has been installed for quite a while
empty light
whos even hosting the server?
heavy gale
Embark
manic reef
i think i got a decent one for healing beam
sweet locust
ooh y’all been at it
we have been cooking
shell mauve
i think i got a decent one for healing beam
NICE!
shell mauve
breaching charge skins when
did you like my description of your GIF xD
shell mauve
haha did I now?
manic reef
@shell mauve how's this
https://img.guildedcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/d9bb3b7e978d5ee8769980789c6ff3e4-Full.mp4
stiff dove
lmao
shell mauve
... I don't think I can cut a piece out of that that can hide my disappointment
I was hopeing for something a bit more straight forward and ideally.. something that ended in victory haha
sweet locust
its all fun and games until you see 3 mediums healing each other
i won a tourney like that once
manic reef
better(?) clip for healhttps://img.guildedcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/306a0c2850000d82e80465b45dac177f-Full.mp4
heavy gale
so many healers in that clips
sweet locust
better(?) clip for healhttps://img.guildedcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/306a0...
💀
shell mauve
better(?) clip for healhttps://img.guildedcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/306a0...
Both these clips are perfect
I’ll cut them so it doesn’t look derpy OP
The cloak clips are perfect, will probably mash them up
heavy gale
I have one or two clips of evasive dash if also needed
shell mauve
I got one but sharing is caring
heavy gale
dashy McDash
past current
thats me
heavy gale
damn that really covered a long distance
shell mauve
https://img.guildedcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/a0fc579cade076138c9596f7dc5d...
Is that still possible in the current version?
Because “air resistance” was increased to avoid certain exploits
Any of the clips without the top code I can’t say if its current mechanic
manic reef
Is that still possible in the current version?
i mean is dashing 3 times in the air really an exploit
besides this was post movement nerf
1 day after the nerf and 2 days before the dash sound bug was fixed
lapis kindle
dashing 3 times in the air wasn’t an exploit afaik
– there was even a Contract (challenge) about it
final token
Any of the clips without the top code I can’t say if its current mechanic
Also add that anything can change between last patch and next beta or release
But I would say yeah stick to content that was at the latest patch if possible
sweet locust
dashing 3 times in the air wasn’t an exploit afaik
okay i thought so cuz i was so confused
shell mauve
the three dashes weren't the exploit, there was an unrelated exploit that made people fly far away
it might be that the extreme FOV makes it look like it is leaping way further
empty light
the three dashes weren't the exploit, there was an unrelated exploit that made p...
you mean prop surfing?
shell mauve
and some other things yeah
quasi echo
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Breaching_Charge <@318648517453283330> <:kekw:10...
should have used this
damage to enviroment:** 0**
lapis kindle
better to use in-game footage than trailers for this type of thing, imo
shell mauve
HAHAHAHHA
quasi echo
better to use in-game footage than trailers for this type of thing, imo
i mean the clip in there
shell mauve
There is a clip in there SPEAR
how can you not see it xD
the breach charge bit is a player clip xD
shell mauve
can someone add these to the cloacking device? I can't seem to get it to work
lapis kindle
can someone add these to the cloacking device? I can't seem to get it to work
that first clip is DIRTY haha
shell mauve
it does show it best though
lapis kindle
i agree - that's how powerful Cloak can be
shell mauve
we have clip of a bug somewhere @past current also shows some great moment right there.. TRAUMAS
quasi echo
Updated the breaching charge
shell mauve
wait what..
I hope not with the full trailer ey
ah I see
one second I'm gonna rephrase that a little because you make it sound like it's a guarantee xD
good point though, Magica!
@past current ready to relive it?
@subtle quest come join us
empty light
<@275922759417200640> ready to relive it?
lmao
past current
ohhh that 🥹
shell mauve
guys look at the score...
empty light
i had something like that happen to me on the moving platform thing
shell mauve
notice there are only 2 teams
empty light
notice there are only 2 teams
wait what
past current
nono, not funny
heavy gale
<@275922759417200640> ready to relive it?
ooo that would be annoying af
empty light
nono, not funny
you poor people
shell mauve
would be.. THAT HAPPENED D:
heavy gale
also updated the infobox style to see what it looks like https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S
quasi echo
<@275922759417200640> ready to relive it?
Thats like #📂┇the-finals-wiki message but worse
shell mauve
looks good
lone monolith
I like that
quasi echo
someone should add proximity sensors
lone monolith
@shell mauve You need to upload videos via this link #📂┇the-finals-wiki message
Then do this:
[[File:*FILE_NAME_HERE*.mp4|thumb|400x200px|*Caption Here*]]
heavy gale
where you putting it?
shell mauve
nvm it worked
heavy gale
shell mauve
second video is having issues >.,
nice they're both in ❤️
dunno what that was about..
manic reef
the lh1 clip seems to take forever to load
shell mauve
I think its really cool my dude, but its not a wiki thing
marble sinew
I think its really cool my dude, but its not a wiki thing
Sorry it wasnt intended to advert it
heavy gale
to be fair though, nice skins from what I've seen
marble sinew
Since I'll be using the wiki I tought y'all might be interested!
subtle quest
<@767502631999373343> come join us
marble sinew
Would it be possible to AI enhance the pictures then upload them on the wiki?
Instead of having a 1200x800 pictures y'all could ai enhance it to x2/x3
Just an idea
shell mauve
wdym upload them on the wiki? you mean the screenshots we have or the skins you're making?
subtle quest
<@767502631999373343> come join us
Don’t make me relive it
marble sinew
wdym upload them on the wiki? you mean the screenshots we have or the skins you'...
The screenshots
As of right now, the screenshots are low-quality 1200x700, or some like that
Let me show you
This the SC on the wiki
1200x600
This is an enhance version of it
shell mauve
most of the screenshots we use aren't taken by us, or well, have been taken 2 weeks ago
marble sinew
If you open in browser you'll see the differences
shell mauve
I don't think they need to be enchanced because they are already quite sizeable and it doesnt add value to us. I understand that it does to you because you are designing new skins for m
marble sinew
I don't think they need to be enchanced because they are already quite sizeable ...
Yeah I guess you are right, let's also not speak about the size of the file if you do it for each and every weapon
shell mauve
and the AI enhancements kinda destroy the text I see haha
marble sinew
Yeah
heavy gale
Also, in terms of the one on the wiki, it depends on the image, but they are usually larger than 1200x700
it's only limited to 1200 width for consistency sake in the gallery
if you click the image, it should show bigger as the M11 one is actually 1,959 × 1,023 (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/File:M11_standard.png)
shell mauve
maybe move this conversation to #⚡┇the-finals-chat
final token
and the AI enhancements kinda destroy the text I see haha
Artificial Non-Intelligence
tropic fjord
Please make sure to read the rules of our server - Linking directly to your social media platforms is considered advertising and is not allowed.
This is also not the correct chat to talk about it #🔴┇media-chat is there if need to share clips of your edits or work on skin mockups 
marble sinew
Please make sure to read the rules of our server - Linking directly to your soci...
My bad!
tropic fjord
All good!
shell mauve
excuse me?
tropic fjord
Please try to be more respectful towards your fellow Contestants
shell mauve
Beau.. he hurt my feelings :c
sour laurel
shell mauve
I'm gonna listen to it again RIGHT NOW AND DIAL IT TO 11!
heavy gale
what did I miss
forest mirage
werent opinions
heavy gale
what they say?
tropic fjord
werent opinions
Not sure whats the deal here, but if we're not using the chat to contribute with the wiki and specially to make inflammatory comments, I'll have to kindly ask you to stop 
shell mauve
but yeah no
anyway, back to wiki business
I'll add the dash thing
I think its the fov that made it look really far
heavy gale
do we know who made the fandoms wiki?
sweet locust
what
heavy gale
ahhh
heavy gale
sour laurel
this was made in september, hmm
lapis kindle
latest updates were recent in late March
heavy gale
shell mauve
shell mauve
Which also is a moderator on wiki.gg subreddit
gotta admit he works fast haha
he has different stats than us though..
heavy gale
for the guns?
heavy gale
we'll get the real stats and everything from hopefully legmek when he's back from the weekend
shell mauve
we can factcheck with the devs thats something he can't.
I kinda wanna bother esbjorn to make something custom for the wiki haha
heavy gale
what job is esbjorn in at embark?
shell mauve
tropic fjord
Wizard
heavy gale
ooo
sour laurel
Esbjörn is a very good artist
tropic fjord
Same 
sour laurel
ill change it
shell mauve
Haha I mean that's what rob would say too
@astral raft we're appreciating your work, feels weird not to let you know so a singular ping (apologies in advance)
sweet locust
gotta admit he works fast haha
but there are edits from 2022
shell mauve
hmm i see
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Evasive_Dash omg this is starting to get chaotic
I'm just gonna note this down as.. temporary
heavy gale
maybe we should limit it to like 1 - 2 gifs per page unless it turns out to be a super long page
shell mauve
well ideally we just combine all three gifs into one
but I am A. too lazy to install photoshop and B. the tool I use because I'm a lazy bum.. doesn't allow me to stitch the gifs
so see this is a temporary solution
heavy gale
fair
stiff dove
you and me, we are the same
shell mauve
hehe, good
heavy gale
I might change the table style, it looks like a W98 table design
stiff dove
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Evasive_Dash omg this is starting to get chaotic
i'll see later if we can make this look better by embedding the gifs in a different way
shell mauve
cool
heavy gale
yay or nay?
lone monolith
I like it
heavy gale
shell mauve
Finals Black
heavy gale
red for reference
shell mauve
I don't hate it
manic reef
ketchup and mustard
heavy gale
I don't hate it
yeah, looks better with white text than the black text I had before
anyway red, yellow or finals black? or just white
manic reef
is that white
or The Finals™️ white
final token
⚪ 
heavy gale
is that white
or The Finals™️ white
Just white, just transparent
shell mauve
black
shell mauve
Y'all need help for the wiki?
we're not there yet Blank 🙂
but keep an eye out because we aren't far off it!
marble sinew
Bet
shell mauve
there's multiple people thinking about the design (hell I might also when everything gets together but I stopped working as a graphic designer for a reason haha)
marble sinew
talkin about the site page?
lapis kindle
there's multiple people thinking about the design (hell I might also when everyt...
ye i’m not gonna even enter that territory
shell mauve
haha well.. I'm kinda like.. "when in rome"
Does anyone have footage of them using the mesh shield?
shell mauve
I might not be the Loremaster but I'm definitely something xD
currnetly writing the Explosive Mine page
lapis kindle
I might not be the Loremaster but I'm definitely something xD
master copywriter if you ask me
heavy gale
Truee
shell mauve
HA
I found out..
we're missing a gadget
the........ Frag grenade.
I just don't remember if its exclusive to a build
heavy gale
Frag grenade ?
shell mauve
yes
heavy gale
Ah, goddamn it your message never showed up before I sent mine
I think the frag grenade is for all builds
I'm 99% sure I remember it on light and medium
shell mauve
ok I'll just.. leave it there
we'll check it later
so who wants to pitch the RPG xD
heavy gale
I think it's fine and I mained light
keen kernel
what kind of clip are we looking for
I know of a pretty sweet RPG clip that @real stirrup has 
shell mauve
show me
keen kernel
Duh is typing
manic reef
shell mauve
keen kernel
I should really check in on this wiki thing. Haven't been there since we made it 😅
shell mauve
great clip.. but the light ruined it with the cloak :c
manic reef
AHAHHA
shell mauve
I should really check in on this wiki thing. Haven't been there since we made it...
most of it is pretty good
some of it is.. don't worry about it
shell mauve
Specializations are in a pretty good place, most weapons are getting a decent body
gadgets are a lil.. yea
the Lh1 page is pretty much perfect
especially the caption.
manic reef
you ever get that feeling of deja vu?
shell mauve
that place, as you know.. is nightmare fuel
keen kernel
Yo I absolutely despise when it spawns UNDER the elevator
shell mauve
I dont
I think its amazing
I hope they don't change that, no joke
just goo it up
my friend Lightning
loves being a bad teammate
these are all the clips she shares
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046182972665102366/1084491098354888704/Free_Medical_Supplies.mp4 I got a good one for the turret.
this is prepatch turret btw
keen kernel
I hope they don't change that, no joke
The location is fine. I just wish it was easier to tell it's that spot and not in the elevator. Cost us a couple winds because we ran out of time looking for the damn thing haha
shell mauve
I feel ya
keen kernel
Like when I'm carrying the casbox if the Cashout gave off a perioic pulse that reveals the surrounding wireframe that would be mega helpful
manic reef
got 2 more so far in the same recording but they got some chatter and back ground noise xd
audio streams got mixed :/
shell mauve
ok so we still need to do 4 specializations. I'll gladly rewrite/adjust and whatever, but I don't have the content knowledge, so someone else needs to first do that bit.. If you guys can work on these, use one of the other specializations to get an idea. Thanks 😉
- Light: Grappling hook (don't have experience with it)
- Medium: Guardian Turret (not enough meaningful gameplay on my end either
- Medium: Recon Senses (didn't use)
- Heavy: Goo Gun (I know ya'll used this a lot)
shell mauve
thisi s noice!
manic reef
i have one surviving recording of me playing goo gun
but i never used it the entire round
💀
submission for turret
imma be honest
this was before i knew exactly how to play against them pre nerf 💀
heavy gale
I stuck with cloaking on my light basically the whole time
heavy gale
that enemy just kindly dropping you a cash crate
manic reef
that enemy just kindly dropping you a cash crate
I've had a similar instance happen but I couldn't clip it cause shadowplay was a bitch
Dude failed to shoot it into the cashout cause their team had no extra mobility to deal with floating platforms
heavy gale
I haven't really used the grapple so this is all I got so far https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Grappling_Hook
keen kernel
These image buttons are awesome
heavy gale
yeah, @lapis kindle did some great graphics
shell mauve
I haven't really used the grapple so this is all I got so far https://www.thefin...
I love it
rn got nothing I can think of that I would change haha
I would've written the same thing with the sniper haha
shell mauve
I guess maybe integrate the massive bamboozles that Seoul brings with them specifically
heavy gale
made a start on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Guardian_Turret however needs a fuck load more info considering I've never used it
heavy gale
good stuff to you too
real stirrup
I know of a pretty sweet RPG clip that <@336329234878300180> has <:leoSmirk:1050...
It is quite a long distance one. Maybe one hitting a building at mid range would be better?
heavy gale
I have completely no idea about Recon Senses nor Goo gun so gonna leave them alone
stiff dove
Goo Gun ❤️
i made some mine traps with it on Monaco at the cashout station on the map border (with the vertical moveable walls) 
heavy gale
night bud
stiff dove
made a start on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Guardian_Turret however needs a ...
the info box description though
"Player attempting to place a turret" 💀
😂
heavy gale
silent hawk
the wiki looking so nice
quasi echo
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Breaching_Charge
Who added my clip 💀 you have to delete that when the game comes out
Cause it will probably be fixed
sweet locust
shell mauve
Cause it will probably be fixed
Worry not, I keep track of all the things we should probably not leave im there.. like all the cautionary notes
shell mauve
made a start on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Guardian_Turret however needs a ...
Omg.. that clip shows nothing about the turret 
sweet locust
No it does
sweet locust
Wtf
manic reef
light's best friend 
quasi echo
Worry not, I keep track of all the things we should probably not leave im there....
The notes should remain
shell mauve
Haha I don’t think cat mom and my friend lightning would agree
sweet locust
no
shell mauve
Haha no
sweet locust
go check
shell mauve
I am enjoying my cafecito
sweet locust
i only speak facts
shell mauve
Nah
shell mauve
Yeah we need a better clip
sweet locust
i can go looking
heavy gale
If was only there for a joke anyway xD
sweet locust
yeah i cant find much
man i wish yukiotzu had the sawed and sa12 skins
im malding 
stiff dove
here is the rpg kill in a bit higher quality. no sound though because i was screaming and laughing 
sweet locust
here is the rpg kill in a bit higher quality. no sound though because i was scre...
pog
heavy gale
nice kill
manic reef
here is the rpg kill in a bit higher quality. no sound though because i was scre...
but the screaming and laughing is the best part :(
heavy gale
at least we only need Goo Gun and Recon Senses to do for specializations now
and quite a lot more gadgets
we're missing one more gadget if I am correct
manic reef
I don't think the cooldown on dash is really a weakness
that's kinda like saying cloak cd is long when you completely drain it
heavy gale
yeah, we're missing the sonar grenade for mediums, oops
heavy gale
that's kinda like saying cloak cd is long when you completely drain it
with cloak though you can still use it even if you completely drained it and just wait for a portion of it to come back. With evasive if you want all 3 charges, gotta wait for a bit
manic reef
eh idk
heavy gale
shell mauve
I beleive it can be moved though.. or did they remove that?
I think the size got smaller to make it less pwoerful
heavy gale
I think it got nerfed and couldn't be moved anymore
shell mauve
ah good shit
during the alpha I believe the dome shield was a specialization for.. mediums?
heavy gale
I can't remember shit from the alpha, only managed to play like 3 hours of it and I spent most my time with a healing station as a medium
manic reef
"can throw down a large protective barrier. This creates a spherical shield that allows the player and their teammates to enter, providing valuable protection in combat. "
i think it should say: The barrier allows the player and their teammate to shoot through it whilst preventing enemy fire
since it doesn't allow just the ally team to pass enter and leave
heavy gale
true
manic reef
maybe call it large and intangible barrier instead?
barrier already implies protecting something
heavy gale
"can throw down a spherical shield that allows the player and their teammates to shoot through it whilst preventing enemy fire."
gets rid of the barrier bit considering if we just say barrier then people be thinking of like a wall
manic reef
or just shorten it down to that yeah
heavy gale
you can make the change as it's basically your writing edit and get some more edits on your profile 😛
manic reef
I played a bunch of fantasy games and league and barrier usually brings an idea of a translucent protective object to me
heavy gale
unless we make it instead of "spherical shield" we change it to "360 barrier"
sweet locust
technically its a hemisphere
manic reef
it's not an entire sphere?
manic reef
sweet locust
nah, I've seen it when put down near a broken wall
hes not wrong
manic reef
Was the dome shield breakable
heavy gale
I don't think so
sweet locust
i dont remember
manic reef
better than winton
heavy gale
only had a time limit but I can't remember how long it was
manic reef
might just be me but it's not loading xd
heavy gale
yeah, gifs are limited to a single frame most the time
you have to click on the image for it to play
sweet locust
we are gonna be like gremlin when the game opens up again
heavy gale
we are gonna be like gremlin when the game opens up again
100%
sweet locust
just gathering as much info as possble
heavy gale
taking screenshots of every possible screen and every item
manic reef
my ass gonna stay in the practice range as per usual lmaooo
sweet locust
and then i can finally add the sawed off shotgun skins and the sa12 skins so my ocd can finally go away
heavy gale
I'm hoping we can somehow get the models for guns and alike
then we can make the images as consistent as possible
sweet locust
yeah tbh we could probably get all of this if we asked the devs but it just seems like a bother for them
heavy gale
yeah, might get Nate to ask the devs or someone for gun stats if legmek doesn't see my ping from Friday/Saturday
shell mauve
he probably missed it
sweet locust
povich the dome shield was breakable i just wanna confirm
heavy gale
I would ping him again but I don't like spam pinging people
shell mauve
povich the dome shield was breakable i just wanna confirm
yeah .. right? xD
heavy gale
sweet locust
i didnt last long enough as a medium to see if it could break
heavy gale
I would assume it probably had the same health as the mesh shield
if it did have health
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sweet locust
i feel like it had less
heavy gale
no one knows
heavy gale
no problem
shell mauve
I am
sweet locust
iv that shit
heavy gale
I'll just slowly be trying to do pages and hopefully get some more gadgets out the way
shell mauve
my coffee machine is crippled.. already tried to clean it and partially disassembled it..
got some of the worst shi out of it by flushing it continuously
heavy gale
go back to the old fashioned days and make coffee with kettle
shell mauve
lets not haha
heavy gale
sweet locust
my better judgement just kicked in
shell mauve
just now yeah?
sweet locust
same brother
heavy gale
does look like people are confusing the dome shield with the mesh shield
sweet locust
fair
sweet locust
povich u wanna play doors
also dumb question how do i add pages to the wiki i could write the gas grenades
heavy gale
I just edit the gadgets source and add [[ ]] on the end of the word like [[Gas Grenade]]
save it and then it makes a link to the page and you can create from there
heavy gale
good luck, don't die on streets
sweet locust
im going into customs
heavy gale
but there's usually no loot there on a scav
sweet locust
i have all the stashes memorized
stiff dove
yes dome shield was breakable afaik
sweet locust
manic reef
you happen to have a clip of it breaking
sweet locust
bruh unlucky i spawned into a raid with 30 minutes left
shell mauve
povich u wanna play doors
doors?
sweet locust
doors?
yeah the roblox game
where you have to go through 100 doors without dying, it is kinda a horror game
shell mauve
dude.. how old do you think I am
heavy gale
uh its alot easier than having to write the [[ ]]
I only edit using the "Edit source", just easier for me
shell mauve
lol I don't do that because I tend to break things if I go too deep
marble sinew
Im at work and can’t really follow the chat but if y’all need me hit up my discord dms
Anything I can do to help I’ll do it
shell mauve
sure thing!
heavy gale
will do 🙂
shell mauve
we're mostly filling up the massive backlog of gadgets
sweet locust
can we keep this
shell mauve
Its accurate no?
marble sinew
Do we known the exact number of damage dealt for a grenade?
sweet locust
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gas_Grenade thoughts on this
marble sinew
Maybe include it
marble sinew
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gas_Grenade thoughts on this
Good description!
Also, although it’s greatly said in the gas grenade tab, I’d advise y’all to maintain a neutral opinion. The way the META was during CBT (blocking doors with a gas) it’s a good strat, but if y’all start to include every possible strat it’ll be a linear experience for the players.
As for myself I love to have the title « Meta Breaker » so, if 50% players put gas grenade on a door and expect nobody to push because it’s « meta » I’m pushing through that gas and killing you
Simply a constructive criticism
Let’s say Embark release a mask gadget where you can walk through the gas, y’all going to have to change that description just because of that
Your personal opinion of a « strat » will never be approved by 100% of the players. That said, if a player reads the website and sees « do this occurring X scenario, you should be good » if it doesn’t work, he might discredit the wiki for that simple reason
Doing Devils Advocate work here but I just want everything to be perfect for you guys and I don’t want any of y’all to have a backlash regarding the wiki
manic reef
i don't particularly think gas grenade is even good at blocking entrances
marble sinew
i don't particularly think gas grenade is even good at blocking entrances
There’s our proof of what I’m saying
Only take 1 player to discredit a whole wiki
manic reef
i mean, good at blocking entrances against cloaks ig but that's probably it
i just think it's mid overall tbh
marble sinew
See now lettuce ain’t stupid and he ain’t going to scream that the wiki is trash because of one single thing, but some others will do
That’s a backlash you do not want
Because all the works y’all are doing will be reversed and nobody will use it, got to be the most neutral possible
Maybe have a section called Strat? Where you could describe different ideas and now then it could be perfect to include scenarios and strats, also could have author name talking about the X strat, that way it doesn’t discredit the wiki
I don’t mean to be an annoying « Karen » here, just seeing the other side of the medal
This is how you wrote it:
The Gas Grenade is a grenade that releases toxic gas on detonation, Its great for clearing out rooms or blocking off entrances, notably it can be also useful to get people off a Cashout if that situation arise
You coulda phrased it like this to clear the wiki name:
The Gas Grenade is a grenade that releases toxic gas on detonation, some players during the CBT noted that it was a great way to clear out rooms or blocking off entrances, notably, the reviews also said it can be useful to get people off a Cashout if that situation arise
sweet locust
I'm not adding CBT to it
marble sinew
I'm not adding CBT to it
Maybe CBT ain’t the right way to phrase it
I ain’t trying to be mean here, just want y’all names to be cleared if any backlashes happen
Also, do we have the damage tick for it? We could include that
sweet locust
At the moment it's mostly wip
manic reef
yeah they be kinda just laying down foundations atm
sweet locust
We have very and I mean very limited information on stuff
Most of what we write is based off memory
shell mauve
we aren't going to mention reviews
not in the literal sense
thats even more work
you could write, "there are some who believe it lacks some effectiveness to achieve what it is designed for"
you don't limit it to CBT or call it reviews because that is basically an ever changing thing
marble sinew
you could write, "there are some who believe it lacks some effectiveness to achi...
Yes I think its the best way! Sorry im native French!
shell mauve
we have to keep adjusting it anyway
lone monolith
manic reef
also have to consider the amount of people (or lack thereof) who are actually going to this wiki to grab some info
there practically isn't any
lone monolith
I've just done this so they know that anything in the loadout section is subject to change
marble sinew
also have to consider the amount of people (or lack thereof) who are actually go...
See it as a guide for new players
lone monolith
Instead of disclaiming that on every page inside of it
marble sinew
I think it'll be used!
shell mauve
rather than saying it is great, which it might be, I dunno, you could say "it is designed with x in mind." that said we also need to make sure people don't avoid weapons because we try to be too direct. we can fluff it up as long as it is not a lie.
marble sinew
rather than saying it is great, which it might be, I dunno, you could say "it is...
Yeah, thats why I was saying being neutral, if you tend to say this is great for x reasons, you put the wiki on the spot
shell mauve
there practically isn't any
the wiki is still low on content, we jsut started building it 😉
marble sinew
Cause if it gets patched, you will have to change it, every patches
Also, maybe, include a section called Patch notes?
shell mauve
Yeah, thats why I was saying being neutral, if you tend to say this is great for...
well that is why we discuss most of these points 😉
we have to agree on its position at this time
I wouldn't say it needds to be neutral, it just needs to be agreed upon it being something at this current moment.
I too write slightly biased, I do try to keep it somewhat neutral, but i do want to give my experience some room
lone monolith
I think for the moment we should just objectively say what the gadgets can do
marble sinew
Of course, players in general have to know this has been made by players, and not embark itself
Altough it looks like its supervised by Embark
lapis kindle
supported
marble sinew
Sorry my english isn't really good lol
lone monolith
Goo Grenades/Goo Guns are good for creating cover but are extremely flammable.
Gas Grenades are good for area denial but are also flammable.
shell mauve
I think for the moment we should just objectively say what the gadgets can do
I think that is not doing any of them justice. people want to understand the experience of it that is why we yeet in adjectives and adverbs and giving examples.
this is also why I didn't write the stuff I didn't play
lone monolith
I don't mean just putting that in
marble sinew
I think the discussion already been talked about but, will y'all put a gif for every gadgets?
shell mauve
not necessarily
marble sinew
Also, I could translate the wiki in french, if that actually helps
lone monolith
I don't think we're gonna do much translation until closer to the games release
marble sinew
Oh for sure
lone monolith
So we don't have you translating a page that gets rewritten
marble sinew
Yeah, makes sense
shell mauve
you're not the first one to offer that btw ;x
marble sinew
Also, is there any ways to see via Steamcharts where most of the players were playing?
It could be a good way to know what language to focus
If only 5% of the CBT were from France, it shouldn't be a top priority thing
heavy gale
to be fair though, if anyone "disagrees" with a page, they are always allowed to change it anyway
shell mauve
I think localization isn't about how many of who did what, its about the general necessity of the information being in a language.. French people seem to not be able/want to read English.
whereas if I were to translate everything to Dutch.. it would.. be a waste of my time.
because Dutch people can/should be able to read English just fine.
sweet locust
povich you can speak dutch?
shell mauve
I mean tbf even if you think so, someone else likely doesn't so the localization will come either way
I can speak Dutch yes
marble sinew
Overall question for y'all, do we know if there is any ways to find a squad related to your rank in the game before actrually joining a game?
sweet locust
I can speak Dutch yes
thats cool
marble sinew
Let's say ''Looking for a Light V9S that can lurk''
shell mauve
nope its random
marble sinew
Oof
shell mauve
egg.. egg indeed
manic reef
there wasn't an in game solution at CBT so yeah, no
shell mauve
also I don't think they'll make matchmaking so detailed
marble sinew
LFG
marble sinew
TBH I can see a major E-sport potential for the game
heavy gale
there is a LFG channel or was
marble sinew
Well that's a good start!
shell mauve
there was a LFG section for your respective continent
marble sinew
I had something like this in mind https://teamfind.com/counter-strike/lobby
I come from CS:GO right, so, I might be biased
But having a tool that can search FA, have your stats included, create teams, etc.
heavy gale
isn't that run by a 3rd party anyway?
marble sinew
Yeah!
Just trying to know where Embark sits, in terms of gameplay no games really feels/looks like TF. In the same branch tho I guess you could say: Overwatch/CS/RB6
lapis kindle
that exists in other games as well, just not related to the Wiki - though it can be referenced
marble sinew
Yeah, it could be a good side-projects, just pitching an idea
Maybe I could do a separate discord, that way you get a player-base that wants e-sports
Do we know if private match will be a thing?
marble sinew
Yeah, I tought maybe the CBT gave us a glimpse of private matches
lapis kindle
perhaps in a later play test (or after release)
marble sinew
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't see a reason why it wouldn't be a thing
lapis kindle
well, there could be reasons we don't know - from a technical standpoint
just saying patience is key above all
marble sinew
Oh for sure
heavy gale
@lone monolith don't forget to ask about SFTP
sweet locust
heavy gale
Skeleton having the time of his life
marble sinew
It would be great for the wiki also to have image assets in png
Would wildly increase the traffic and visits per day
If 25% of that visit actually checks the wiki for infos after they've got their png, it would be good
heavy gale
you mean like guns with transparent backgrounds and shit?
marble sinew
Yeah
Usually Embark should have the assets
If not inside the game files you can prob find them
heavy gale
It's more that we would need to ask Embark for the files
lapis kindle
that's something that'll be easy to do once the game is released, imo
marble sinew
Oh yeah, it's not a huge deal for them, if not it can wait, it'll be in the game files anyways
heavy gale
I've had a look in the playtest folder, it's basically all just encrypted pak files
tropic fjord
<@456226577798135808> don't forget to ask about SFTP <:hug_friend:10406038898729...
We're still waiting on an answer regarding this, we'll update you guys when we have it
marble sinew
I've had a look in the playtest folder, it's basically all just encrypted pak fi...
Oh, then we'll have to ask the team about it
heavy gale
We're still waiting on an answer regarding this, we'll update you guys when we h...
Thanks Beau ❤️
once the game is actually out, it'll make stuff 100x easier to do with the wiki
manic reef
fr
heavy gale
but for now, it's currently going well and looking good
tropic fjord
You're all legends and it makes my tiny heart warm to see how gorgeous the wiki is looking
sweet locust
I've had a look in the playtest folder, it's basically all just encrypted pak fi...
i think the assets are server sided i wouldnt be surprised
lapis kindle
<@632357255974486027> We can probably use this for the Easter Egg section now
do you want a banner for it?
lone monolith
do you want a banner for it?
It would be appreciated
lapis kindle
It would be appreciated <:hug_friend:1040603889872949248>
np, with the Loadout or Socials format tho?
lone monolith
np, with the Loadout or Socials format tho?
Loadout. I suspect I'm gonna have to mess around with how we lay out the easter egg section after Tier1 is done.
heavy gale
we could always add a tabbing extension
tabs within a wiki page, part 1 | part 2 | part 10000
lapis kindle
agreed. as it expands that would be very helpful
heavy gale
amazingly starcitizen tools forked it
they seem to have forked and modified A LOT of extensions
sweet locust
<:YEP:867137483804377119> I will actually make the page at some point today
unless i beat you to it
jk im tired lmao
sweet locust
we should also make the text white so its like a hidden page and its just NamaTama
shell mauve
<:YEP:867137483804377119> I will actually make the page at some point today
don't beat around the bush too much xD
I get that my writing is longwinded but this is very intense xD
sweet locust
proof
shell mauve
wdym proof?
sweet locust
proof
heavy gale
I get that my writing is longwinded but this is very intense xD
don't worry, I was about to make it and then I got shot by "I need a rest from starring at white pages"
sweet locust
when we adding color to wiki besides white
sweet locust
my eyes are starting to hurt
heavy gale
I'm hoping if we (Kyne or CM) gets access to SFTP for the directory then we can just upload a dark version
like DarkVector or StarCitizen Skin v1 (as v2 only works on the latest mediawiki install)
shell mauve
Star Citizen skin yeah? isn't that baked to have the blue/bluegreen colors?
sweet locust
we need the THE FINALS colors
heavy gale
we can change it, most of the colour variables for the skin are in a 1-2 files
sweet locust
luke thats it ive decided we are now beefing
sweet locust
idk
lone monolith
I'm hoping if we (Kyne or CM) gets access to SFTP for the directory then we can ...
You'd probably need to ask Bear about it
shell mauve
😮 bear!?
heavy gale
Also maybe we can get an update to 1.39
Lastly, there we go, star citizen skin with Finals black for the background
heavy gale
yeah
shell mauve
the rest is gucci
heavy gale
that's easy to do
shell mauve
can't believe we're using Star Citizen stuff to spice stuff up hehe
lone monolith
Usually I'd forward it but I'm a bit out of my league on wiki things
shell mauve
pretty much the opposite of Embark's vision
sweet locust
can't believe we're using Star Citizen stuff to spice stuff up hehe
we are evolving
shell mauve
gamewise not design
obviously, can't imagine them not having some kind of mutual respect..
heavy gale
http://vps-7a93429a.vps.ovh.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page there you go, slightly lighter infobox
shell mauve
I bet Rob and Christ Roberts had coffee atleast once in their lifetimes..
sweet locust
make the lines red
heavy gale
on the table?
sweet locust
yes
heavy gale
no
manic reef
what am i looking at and why is it so cool
sweet locust
please
heavy gale
what am i looking at and why is it so cool
the test wiki for testing purposes
manic reef
neato
heavy gale
there you go @sweet locust