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@lapis kindle

Wikii yippee
so, i asked Rob to provide us the Sponsor logos we've seen in the trailers and in Seoul so we can add them to In-Game Sponsors as a gallery for the time being
-- additionally asked for Team logos/names, tho a member already worked on a few that we can use
(As a heads up I'm still messing with things and dialing in others on the side, so things might explode, but bear with me!)

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oh deer
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Great! Thanks!
I can't get what the channel is supposed for😕.
General feedback about wiki?
Did you read the channel description
Welcome to 75 years Wikipedia of THE FINALS. Yep, Wiki still exist in 75 years, still useful
Wiki pog
yo
thank god it's the classic wiki 🙏
I think it would be nice if we can do a description of each weapon, ideally with damage numbers and skins.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O5JKQCp6a6SAahYQ3rFGMOBoCQgjWW78ISXxMwTTB50/edit?usp=sharing
Google Docs
Store
#,Type,Display Name,Credits,Rarity,Description
1,BUNDLE,DRACO STAR,960,LEGENDARY,Trace your future in the northern sky (and may your stars never set).
2,BUNDLE,SNOWFLAKE POINTE,1200,EPIC,For contestants who plan to bend, stretch, rise, jump, turn, glide, and dart in the arena.
3,BUNDLE,STY...
Wasn't able to finish it but if this helps for any descriptions or costs ^^
like the Osthyvel has the Swedish cheese and the repeater with the firing animation.
yup, tbh i've only worked on the lore side. everything else i wish i had grabbed footage for it and such
but i def agree
if you give me the rights i can write some of it down I guess
anyone can contribute! or do you mean editing the spreadsheet?
the spreadsheet
@silent hawk
For anyone who's interested, here is a bunch Screenshots of weapon skins I've taken from the closed beta:
Assasin's Dagger Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
M11 Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
V9S Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
LH1 Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
AKM Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
Repeater Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
R .357 Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
Pump-Action GL Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
M60 Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
Sledgehammer Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
FlameThrower Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
RPG Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
.30-06 Sniper Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat message
M32 GL Weapon Skins: #🔴┇media-chat messageWeapon Charms (Part 1): #🔴┇media-chat message
Weapon Charms (Part 2): #🔴┇media-chat message
**Credit to @shadow crater **
exactly what we need, i was looking through chat and couldn't find them 😅
Love yall by the way, can't say how much it makes us happy seeing you guys build up the wiki 🥹
@lapis kindleI'll make it editable by whoever wants just let me know ur email and ill add it
@shell mauve
I requested access 🙂
done
the voicelines are gonna take a while ig, since theres just so many different ways they're said and when they're said
***ive heard of duck duck goose but never duck goes boom 🥴 ***
so what do we have so far in the wiki
a lot actually
I laid down a baseline for most of the articles for now
its Prästost thats being sliced righty?
SPEAR's largely been taking care of the Sponsors and Companies
Yeah
A couple of weeks before the Closed Beta I was visiting an old friend. During dinner he told me a story about how dangerous a simple "osthyel" (a traditional Swedish cheese slicer) can actually be... It was a hilarious story and I sent a text to Theodor (artist) and Oskar (animator) to suggest that it could be a weapon. Just two days later it was in the game.! For authenticity, they also scanned a chunk of cheese and then added the amazing slice taunt. The cheese is a Swedish traditional Prästost, you should try it when you visit Sweden, hehe.
nice
We've got the baseline for Monaco down, a bit of Seoul done. And a few of the weapons have articles but most of them, and all of the gadgets, don't yet.
15 and 61 are duplicates
?
Oh
yeah i spent till 4am one night just recording these lol
so probs a lot of mistakes
i wish i had recorded all the animations and inspects and stuff for all the weapons :/ since i had time and the pc horsepower to record them at max settings
np we'll gather it in here and probably just make a single strcture so we can make like tables for each weapon
If we can get a good summary
we can probably fill the weapons' part up in no time
sounds like a solid plan 🙂
you think we can ask one of the devs to give us that or is that a dead end
wdym?
nvm
In case you're wondering what I'm doing, I'm currently writing down all the weapon skins in the respectable tab
pog
Iirc common weapons were 300
hmm
common weapons are free
included
All light weapons are noted
(that we have so far)
that was fast
yeah yeah
the definition of speed

pog
if anyone knows the prices, please add them for me.
i was kidding 😭 😭 😭
i wrote the rough draft for mediums, any feedback would be nice
Pretty good! 
nvm got 41 done haha
the standard issue and the dye job are the same description so I can copy paste that every time
OH NO THE SWORD IS MISSING D:

YOU FORGOT THE SWORD

I only know the standard, dye job and the stick (but not the full name! D:)
#exposed
I'm honestly amazed by the work you all are doing here as well, I'd like to share a bit of a personal preference to consider before fully completing everything
imho the basic wikipedia site is ugly
Creating a fandom is free as well, right?
That is the usual platform of the game wikis
and I'd prefer browsing a nicely made fandom page than wikipedia
I used the list you sent me :(
don't know if it's too late though
eh.. might as well do this first and you can always do a fandom page later on
when all info is gathered.
isn't it too tedious of a process to copy everything?
oh so you got a separate sheet
tbf this Wiki was built with Embarks help
we can always just translate everything over to Fandom
as long as each page has a good Table of Contents and hyperlinks, it won't be that hard to navigate
yes it'd be much more aesthetically pleasing to look at a fandom page 
(i too prefer Fandom fyi
)
Glad to hear it's not a hard task to do then!
if we build the structure and have the info, we just paste it over
so it honestly isn't lost work
yup!
in any case, this Wiki can help just iron everything before the game releases
I can't seem to provide new information for the wiki but I'd be glad to help planning wiki structure for example
Do we have sawecd off shotgun skins somewhere?
I know the Polished Pyrite was also for the sawed off but that's all I remember
did a little bit of correction on the main page
I got 73 skins noted down so far (Light and medium)
it still said the closed beta is running
sorry.. 74.
oh no nvm 73
ok I'm gonna leave it for now
Will continue tomorrow probably
to do all the heavy stuff and hopefully fill the gaps
Also need to make a mental note to add the SA12 shotgun
Got almost 100 skins now (counting dye job etc. as 1 on the list)
ur a little too crazy
Nah.. I feel like.. being such an old yolk.. I should be one to contribute to the parts that actually last
I’m not really getting into the EE hunting so might as well do a little structuring here and hopefully on the wiki itself when I finished the list
i feel that 
Omg I have some great descriptions for weapons.. hopefully I get a chance to write those too
I have some very good descriptions for the AKM, Repeater, Sword, Knife, Revolver and Sledgehammer I think
But gonna sleep now, will do it tomorrow
I was only kidding about your age back then 😭
Oh this is super cool, I would love to contribute to the wiki
How's the progress gamers
oooh shit all the lore will finally have a place. Im tryna read up on all the puzzles once they finish them
Are Beta strategies that occurred going to be added? Just for historical purposes
good old wiki worriers are now have arrived
You love that old yolk thing
Haha I mean its a good pun
It is, I don't doubt that
but it starts to feel you're the uncle of the server
Hmm.. well regardless, does anyone have all the SA12 screenshots?
wiki
Wdym?
Japple should have a wiki page
I think half the people here would deserve a wiki page but we should probably stay to the point haha
regarding screenshots, we also need the BP cosmetics 😅
i think i have footage of it, just won't be in the same format/angle for each -- need to check later
I'll check my clips and see if I have anything from the BP page in there
I’m sure if we really need it we can ask the devs to make some screenshots/visuals
If we really get stuck.
I’ll be on my way home to finish my list
And see if I can start filling the pages
all of the diamond players in the beta should be on the wiki 😎
I can provide weapon inspection shots for all weapons
Nice! I didn’t even think about that yet!
It was something I went through and did on one of the last days
So for the SA12 I don’t have any screenshots of skins. 😦
So also no info, description etc
Aside from the obvious standard issue and dye job skins
Don’t have screenshots but every weapon but the riot shield has those
I’m wondering if it might be best to hold off on the skins until the store is actually up and running properly as there might be changes?
Apart from permanent ones
I mean I can just stick to the skins I already inventoried
Its a work in progress anyway
I’ll probably have some.
But I can definitely provide images of every weapon with inspection images
We got most of the screenshots, only the SA12 and Sawed off are incomplete afaik
I used a plain wall in the practice range as a background
Ah nice!
Yeah I’ll just do all the text stuff and add what I can access
Perfect 👍
Wonder if there is someone on this server who would be willing to chip in in terms of web design
(it's a massive task)
i learned html/css for a year, i remember a few bits 😆
I'm to smooth brain
Yeah that's me
V95 if I remember
That's a 5

is it an 5?
V9S
The devs are trolling with that font
true
its 100% an S
U know now that I think about it an s makes more sense then a 5
Cuz it's a silenced pistol
Oh
dagger too
Sword too
I've skimmed through my videos and sadly got nothing about the battlepass on there
I don't know much about the prices so someone who does, feel free to add that.. I'll add space for images later on.
for what purposes exactly?
@upbeat silo Hey is it alright if we use screencaps from your video for the wiki? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK9jh7oY1nU
This is the full battle pass and store for the closed beta..
Be careful on the item you select so you get the permanent item before its too late.
#thefinals
#thefinalsgame
Yeahh
thats a pump action shotgun cut off by the katana in concept art..
Think that's just part of the outfit and not a weapon
not a double barrel sawed-off
oh hehe I've been playing a few games which are super in-depth and the type that you have the wiki open as you're playing it. those communities are really good at setting up and maintaining wikis and resources and stuff
I've been playing Star Citizen recently
honestly amazing wiki, left a really good impression haha, bespoke af
Looks like it's a short over under shotgun
might be a shotgun coming to the game at some point but its not the one we had ingame haha
Yeaaah
ye i get that, that's Media Wiki a different engine tho
Anyway..
mhm mhm
all the light body type weapons are now on the wiki
i just don't think we're at that point considering the game isn't even released so
it's something that will come with time
yeah that one took years
same with Apex (now at Fandom) and other Wikis
but.. they're the same engine (sorry if I'm being dumb)
Think this is the pump action shotgun model they're using, before the blank paint finish and such gets added to it?
(it's the same one we're using)
:x
:k
the star cit one does look cool
I think SPEAR meant that it might be on the same engine but it's been customized a lot
sorry playing Apex
smh
gah my comprehension
but yes it would take a LOT of effort
and a lot of time
it's ok Fish haha
we'll get there at some point
once the game releases with more players coming here, people will begin flooding in and naturally some of them will be able to contribute to the backend etc.
that's far future stuff though
i have no worries about the Wiki
i'll just provide the info i have and let others work on it
let nature take its course

Ok all the weapon skins are not complete for the Light and medium (for as far as I could get)
gonna complete my heavy list now and also add those
I'm just adding prices to the skins that I can find
Doing my part 🫡
I do think the landing page in particular needs a lot of love
I really regret not taking a video of every menu 
in terms of skins that are bundled, would it be worth adding the price of the bundle and then adding a part to the notes just saying "bundle item" ?
same
What do we want the weapon descriptions to be
I need to clean up the descriptions for the older weapons when the names were different but yeah
the cars 🥹
Weapon Descriptions:
V9S - Short-range, semi-automatic, suppressed pistol
LH1 - Semi-automatic rifle
Sawed-Off Shotgun - Double-barrel shotgun with a wide spread
M11 - Fast-firing but erratic; machine pistol-class firearm
.30-06 Sniper - Light, bolt-action rifle with a scope
Assassin's Dagger - Close-range melee weapon
Sword - High-damage melee weapon
i agree, it'd be cool to incorporate the game's visual identity and such
but again, wouldn't worry too much about that since the game hasn't released yet
i see what you mean
we can definetely do better.. I'll do some copywriting you can judge if it works.
I mean those are the in game descriptions for the weapons 
i'll see what i can help with later today
yeah but its.. not giving the full picture 🙂
ok I got all the text in for all the weapons
I dunno all the prices so someone else who knows them can do it 😉
Gonna do some copywriting instead ig
I'm slowly adding prices to the skins I can find
aha, just saw the spreadsheet that Swa posted yesterday
charge and goo gun
thank you
can someone give me feedback on the Sword page.
is dagger going be most opportunistic
The table should go on the bottom of the page
i like it but it should go above the skins
you should also make the "current abilities" link to them when the page is finished
They're called Specializations not Abilities 
I am not very experienced with wiki, I just added the info 😉
yknow when the knife ppl try to jump me I realise how Achilles must have felt with his heel, haha
ok but is the game mode called cash out or extraction
they call it Extraction in the Guide but in-game it's Cashout
i would keep Cashout, because it's what people saw in game
either way, you can just add that note
Ok, i've added prices for all the weapons skins that I could find
still a lot missing though
anyone remember the price of TOTALLY IRONIC sledgehammer? I have 860 in my mind but I don't think that's correct
anyone have a good game Wiki reference that uses the old layout?
(most of the ones i follow use customized or Fandom)
Factorio having a unfancy wiki sounds about right 
I kinda like factorio's one 
I went and looked at the Train Signal tutorial and my brain broke again
this is my first time contributing to a Wiki - so just wanted a reference to other Main Page layouts in the old one
We're lucky to have all of you guys on board for this 
there is a russian one for the game "stay out" however it's in russian https://so-wiki.ru/wiki/
Самая полная и актуальная wiki база знаний по игре Stalker Online | Stay Out.
ok I don't want to say I wrote something beautiful
but I wrote something beautiful
Wonderful
right?
I wasn't sure if I liked the images being on the side of the page but it looks nice
I understand this is likely going to change whenever things get rebalanced but still.
regardless, this is the type of content we need (deserve)
btw, any chance we can get an RTF favicon for the Wiki?
I think they would look better on the right side but it might be because I'm used to most wikis having images on right
that's something i wanted to ask
Uhhh, I'll ask around who I need to ask
in terms of structure, do we prefer text on left, image on right
100% right side for me
for Titles, i suggest they all look the same: Sentence Case -- bold with no colons :
for images
seconded
agreed
since the contents sums it up and the colons are out of place then.
yeah, and if they're gonna appear in the Table of Contents, it also helps visually
thirded
looks clean
It looks great Povich
whoever helped setup the wiki/acct
Might take a bit but I'll look into it
i think the meta-image / main image should be the game's keyart - since it's the one every player has seen
-- would make the changes myself, but i'm working atm 😅
The second one
second one, personally
we could even use one of the templates to add secondary text
It'd be too much empty red space on a picture that's supposed to be remarkable and draw attention
well i don't mind the Wiki look tbh
I think it's fine for now
We can worry about the looks when we have more of the wiki done
you could also use one of the Banners to come up with something like so -- sorry just opened it one sec
yup, let's focus on gathering data first
This would be the perfect choice tbf
i can work on some banners later today

but if anyone wants to take a stab at it
might help to have different ones for the Main Page for now
just a thought
also added Strengths and Weaknesses for the Assassin's Dagger.
I have fairly limited experience with some guns so I would recommend others so also give it a whirl. I could write it all down if someone can give me good descriptions of certain weaponry.
What one would you like to write next
hmmm
Sniper?
I only played a handful of matches with it but I feel there is a clear story to be told.
Kinda wish we had a VC so we could screenshare
Good damage at all ranges, massive headshot potential with the scope. Decent hipfire spread. Good weapon to annoy from afar
this is okay or should i rewrite it
I gave it a whirl.
I would change and a sledgehammer to or a sledgehammer.
can we add a breadcrumbs plugin one day (not urgent), just makes navigation a lot simplier when it's like
so main page -> weapons -> weapon_name etc.
Actually, thinking about it
didn't Builds have in game descriptions? Why not use those
I feel like we should just describe it ourselves
fair
And use the in game descriptions under the images of the builds
okay i changed it to or a sledgehammer

bois we are cooking
I did something huge guysd
this wiki is gonna be goated
perfection
we definitely need those
dap me up bro
lɛts ˈfʌkɪŋ ɡəʊ
what
oh
most wikis have it eventhough in this case.. it adds little value haha
language teacher moment
😄
guess we'll have to add all the apparel at some point
pffttt
hey, i made some small changes on the main page. i hope yall are fine with them
I think the concept art probably shouldn't be hiding to the side
its early days.. don't worry about it too much anywayz
can we compact the pages a little.. like.. instead of "loadouts > another menu > what you're looking for..
just have "Load-out" and the list directly below.
on the main page
not a fan of the main image on the right but that's just me
Same for the maps.. we just have a ton of pages that are not needed right now.
tbh i think we could have them right there in the Main Page, even the sponsors
I feel like it clutters up the text if its set right above it, but just revert it if yall think it shouldn't be like that
at least the official ones
like not having all the cosmetics on the main page makes sense and the easter eggs are also likely too much ..
once we get an actual banner (if we are doing that) it'll look a lot better when sat on top but that'll be a lot later stages probably
but most of these are not wortrh lcicking thorugh multiple pages
ingame sponsors is likely going to be a sub 200 word bit.
i agree with having all of those in the Main Page
you could always have the redirect anyway for when they become a larger list (for all items i mean)
I think an infobox e.g. like here would be cool, but you gotta implement some template for that I guess
i like that
Alright I got it looking good again. @stiff dove I did really like your text reformatting so I kept that 
having that for the weapon pages would probably be cool, could have the image of the weapon, name of weapon + damage of weapon and any other stats there is
kinda like how tarkov does it but way less stats because yeah
yuss, we can work on the structure and then fill-in when we have stats and assets
we love tarkov
my favorite gun was the sks
i haven't played it but i really like everything about it -- i've watched streams
it's a shit game that I love to play at times
goated game but i now get scared of loud noises as you kinda have to have the volume up to hear if someone ads
Its a little messy, but this way we can get some actual information on the main page 🙂

look..
now we're going places
People check the main page
I think there are a lot of options to put on the frontpage rather than having a separate page
so if you are working on something, please consider copying your work to the main page instead 🙂
I'm gonna leave it behind for now because I don't want to get too controlling hehe
looking good
might get mediawiki on my PC and see if I can create a draft infobox for the right side of the weapons pages
the main page is looking good
Not bad, but I think some additional styling may be adequate
Perhaps a dark theme with The Finals red theme color as an accent colour ?
So its nice to read but also is visually consistent to some extent ?
poor povich
styling is more like a last step kinda thing, get all the info in
Haha no no
and then it can be styled
I know how difficult styling mediawiki is
I'm just.. working it
It is for sure, but you have to consider that a wiki naturally grows and expands over time
So once a good baseline of content is reached it may be worth it to look into :)
it's looking good content wise
+\ok..
I think i fixed it
please make sure nobody is working in obselete pages.. that way we can probably delete some clutter
main page is looking sweeeettt now
I need a break >.>
yeah we really only want to have pages for weapons and gadgets.. cosmetics
things that are really detailed.
povich is goated
no..
also im guessing switched out tanky to tanklike thank you, i knew there was a better word for it
Povich has been making original and awesome English lesson series all day..
Build/Body types need some tweaking since they are reading as just once sentence atm in the Main page
and thus he got really perfectionistic and overly controlling.. that is why Povich is taking a break xD
feel freeto adjust it 🙂
also i changed swap out for to swapped out for cuz i think swapped is the proper word
I'll see if we can get some like finals inspired discord/twitter/whatever clickable images
I'm not saying Embark can assist.. but uhh.. @tropic fjord feel freeto assist 😉
will do when i get a chance
or someone else might do it before me 😅
Something you guys need?
povich you deserve a nice cold glass of orange juice for your hard work
well.. not me 😉
look at the wiki we did so much
Yall did the most work, I only moved stuff tbh
and added/changed where needed..
most of the owrk I did I did yesterday in the excel sheet haha
just wondering if you guys have SM banners/images
i could work on some later tonight, but we wanted to know if there's already some
Social media.. not S&M..
sorry, it's a habit from work
I'm just joking haha
its a miracle i can still type relatively ok in the wiki.. on discord I'm a lost cause haha
I can check, but I'm still a little lost on what exactly is what you need. Are there any specifics to these SM banner/images you guys have in mind? Or just generally banner sized art for twitter/insta/etc?
I think some banner sized, not just Icons
kinda like social banner links, like the image below but I guess finals themed would make them cooler
Thanks beau
Make the patreon button have a cashout station
What?
idk
What do you guys think about doing this instead of having the entire content of every page on the home page lol
im okay with it
i wouldn't mind it but we need a paragraph in that section that explains Maps
(e.g. how they're virtual arenas that are based on some of the most iconic places on Earth, etc)
but if we do that, removing the content from the Main Page, then we need to be consistent with the rest
Its just not very useful having seperate pages for the little amonut of information there is..
I put it on the mian page because otherwise the main page is empty AF 😉
so i'd say when we have more info, then we go that route
for now, Main Page with the content works
I don't mind it if we can agree to a balance 😄
I just think the mainpage should be a portal to the other areas, not so much the one area to go lol
Guys regarding the banners, can I ask quick question?
I'd need the sizes and a short description for each of the banners if possible.
Do it like this, in hindsight the maps have a lot of clutter with m
Banners should like 80x320 pixels, each with info towards relevant social media for Embark/ The finals
Copy, I'll pass that along, thank you 
noice!
honestly im okay with the portal idea
I'm gonna work on it a bit more when I get home
I think it should be healthy balance. People aren ot going to click through 3 links just to get info on something barely covering 3 lines
I think shallow info like that can easily stay on the main page. Weapons for example, kind wish I could make two colons for the summary but aside from that its easy to follow and to the point. same for Gadgets
I also have an idea for that
ok I'll just leave it in your capable hands then!
yea I agree
how do I not have a portal emote, what
🧑🍳👨🍳👩🍳
so for the whole info box thing on the right, looks like most people just import the Lua module + the template which Wikipedia uses and then creates a template which uses the main infobox template as a base
looking good so far
HAHHAH I FIGURED IT OUT
these are broken
prolly WIP
Dude, I’m gonna be brutally honest.. you literally made it a sitemap
And its extra clicks.. over a simple table that made it super easy for people to find the exact weapon they are searching for
@shell mauve I remember a while back snack made a few videos of each weapons bullet patterns and recoil stuff like that and i was gonna ask if we wanted this?
i liked it before this iteration. like the two Images and then the Weapon and Gadget tables
@shell mauve are there any other weapon images you need?
The weapon and gadget parts were efficient. The summary above it could’ve been a wee bit more compact by putting it over two columns and put an image to the right.. but thats it
the tarkov fandom is like that
Uh I haven’t done anything with the images yet.
You could add them to the right weapons as a gallery for the time being until we have one specific structure for all visuals
ok, cool. I'll do that later today. I have to head out for a bit now
i thought these would live in the Main Page
Np! I gotta sleep anyways
Just testing things
-- we all have different opinions on how it should look and we need a middle ground 😅
don't mind testing things for sure 
we got time, thankfully game shouldn't come out for a while 
indeed!
imo - ease of finding information should be a priority over it looking slick
Also, if we're gonna use the wikipedia infobox stuff, someone will need to setup https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles
I'mma guess you just changed the whole loadout bit @lone monolith, looking good
Yeap
Is there a french version of the wiki? I can try to translate from eng to fr
for the Main Page, it wouldn't hurt having some sort of "Overview", like these bits
Game Premise. You’re a contestant in THE FINALS – the ultimate combat entertainment game show. You and your team fight for fame, riches, and the favor of generous seasonal sponsors.
Core Game Mode - Cashout. A fast-paced game mode, where teams of three compete to find and deposit boxes of cash. Customize your contestant, enter the arena. Find a vault, grab the cash box, and take it to a cashout station. Defend against attacks and steals. The team with the most money at the end of the round wins.
-- these come from the Brand Guidelines but give some context for people that haven't played
additionally, is there a way to add or embed videos? we could add the Tutorial somewhere as well
Do we have the tutorial?
yes
Can you link it?
we could also add those, maybe the section can be named Eggcademy
YT only has trailers and BTS, but in any case we can use the links in #social-updates1 ?
we could
who's hosting the wiki?
Embark are. Duhmeister and I worked with them in getting that set up so we didn’t have to use Fandom (which is awful).
ah fair
i see
I guess that means only people from Embark has access to the mediawiki root directory
thank you so much for making sure to not use fandom
so you're telling me that they can see edit logs
oh they can see all the times i messed up grammar or misspelled something
im in shambles

i mean you can view the Edit History as well 
you don't even need an account for that i think, so everyone can see it lol
hope you won't cry yourself to sleep tonight
I can too. I think Duhmeister, me and Dusty have admin control. We won’t make your typos public lol
use the double arrow, it asserts more dominance
@golden laurel are you able to assist with this? ^ (the message linked above)
cheers Rock
thanks bro
I think everyone can see changes right? Just admins can undo stuff if anyone messes stuff up, I think.
yeah, I can see everyones changes
i can
are non-logged in people able to edit stuff?
Ok, cool.
I don’t think so
is that your ip?
yeah, it's visible to anyone who wants to view the changes anyway
bro im gonna send so many pinapple pizza to your house now 🤓

imagine doing a wiki race and you somehow end up in the finals wiki

Well that didnt work
Oh yeaaah
@oblique wagon found another gif I made
I uploaded it here because maybe for the wiki but its very… speedy..
Bro that looks like a backrooms level
Monaco?
Without it playing, it looks like a backrooms level
Ohhh
Bro how do you get 12:12 AM??? Shouldnt it be 0:12 pm?????
0:12 AM... It's odd, but I think the American time does not consider 0 as the hour, it's just 12 am for midnight and 12 pm for midday
doe any time consider 0 as an hour?
I guess so, we use 24hour here however I've always just said 12am whenever it hits midnight
guess it's more of a thing that clocks show because it just feels weird saying like yeah, it's 0 hundred hours or 0:12
Yeah 😄
military time gang
25% speed
This is @crisp marlin in a mocap suit
bruh
anyone need some
☕ ?
gonna use a bit of time i have before the rest of the day to plug-in some info on the Main Page
There are clearly some differing opinions on the R.357
I see on the mainpage it being described as a short range weapon, while I think its also very useful longer range
as an R.357 main, i agree. i use it for all ranges
joys of no damage dropoff
considering you could also use the V9S at long range and do some decent damage to lights
revolver definitely aint a short range weapon
hiya @golden laurel any chance we can get some sort of branded template for the Wiki? 
-- not a priority but just wondering
We might also need some templates, not sure if we're supposed to make them ourselves but we don't even have the default wikimedia templates.
You can import templates using Special:import if you've exported like premade ones from Wikipedia
It just depends if the templates require extensions which then has to be done by someone from Embark
If you all get me the specifics. I can see what i can do 💪
@lapis kindle ^
awesome. well maybe someone with more Wiki expertise can guide us then 
-- to get specs and such
@heavy gale You're a bit more familiar with Wikimedia right? Me and Spe- oh hi 
Me and SPEAR are a bit uh, not aware of how to do anything besides basic formatting so we might need some more eyes on this.
Hello there
, I'm not that familiar with mediawiki, I've just been googling a fuck ton to try and work out how it all works
we are all in the same boat 
We're all blind 😔
best way to learn is when blind
in terms of some extensions I know we will/may need in the future:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto, it's already installed however will need to be enabled through LocalSettings.php (might already be enabled)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles needs to be downloaded + extracted into extensions folder and then enabled through LocalSettings.php
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStylesExtender just because we might as well have an extension for Template Styles
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo - Allows us to embed youtube videos and such
All pages have an installation part to guide you through it 🙂
@golden laurel ^
We 🧡 you Dusty!

Also, is it a windows or linux server?
Sup guys how can i help with translation of the wiki ?
I’m gonna assume that localization will be relevant when the wiki is near complete as far as the current information goes
I would guess we'll also want https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo for youtube embedding and stuff (added to main list)
all in all, we're gonna end up with a shit ton of extensions by the end of this most likely
As long as it adds value who cares
true
wiki
looks like Kyne, SPEAR and Alphonse been making some changes to the content
apart from that, not much else
Pog
what is specializations
oh so the ults
I wanted to but I don't know where to find the information for it
did medium have the dome shield?
That was a heavy gadget
That was heavys and that wasn't a special
Cloak, Grappling Hook, Evasive Dash.
Guardian Turret, Healing Beam, Recon Senses.
Charge & Slam, Mesh Shield, Goo Gun.
it was recon vision?
oh forgot about healing beam and turret 😆
It was Recon Senses
i thought it was recon beacon
haha rhyme

hopefully Dusty can get the other extensions working soon and then we can try and get info boxes working for weapons
Does anyone know where this info on the main page came from: "THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100."?
if been struggling with the page layout, it may come from the images but i havent figured out yet
Also this: "...and considered a window to a bigger world outside of the real one - known as the Meatspace. "
Ha, it does, but we should only have stuff in there that has some sort of source really
Otherwise it just becomes opinion-based - and there are a lot of different opinions!
True
Ah, great!!
I had actually read that before, but forgot about it in the middle of the CB
thanks
spear just making his own lore up now hehe
i would never make up lore
and i do not add anything that isn’t confirmed to the Wiki – i leave theories for videos or discussions
(and even so, i clarify if it’s just a theory) – everything else comes from official sources
which makes me think, we need to add a Reference List – the link to the Brand Guidelines could live there and others
great idea!
that way users know where the info comes from 😅
this also reminds me, the lore info in the Sponsors section also comes from in-game descriptions and observations
i’ll check my footage and such to add proper images & references later on
(esp. since the current lore is a “explore to find” kinda thing <#⚡┇the-finals-chat message>)
I think some crearive writing to give people impressions doesn't have to be a bad thing 😉
as long as you're not spitting bullshit
i agree, creative writing is good – just as long as the info is accurate to the game (and in this case the lore)
me saying the R.357 is a short range firearm, swa hold my beer
I ythink my piece on the AK is not a lie..
its written in a pleasant manner but based on the experience, what I know was the goal of Embark with it and some fluff on the wording (but not the message, its accurate enough)
i agree
my piece on the R.357 is pretty ok too
its suppose to be a short range weapon, why do you keep sniping people with it
my accuracy short range is maybe 3% 😭
give me a medium to long range target and i can shred them but give me close range and i will literally run away lmfao
ive seen you hit more people far away then people who actually use the sniper
im in shambles
hahahaha, thanks 
np gamer
is the gravity glove function called anything in this game?
i dont remember
I would class the rev as medium long tbh 4 hits
the damage drop-off is too big
I understand what the intention is, but same as the revolver.. its the actual use that defines the weapon imho
ok fair enoguh I'll change it back
No I’m talking about the revolver
A agree with the akm
Damage drop off is crazy on that
ok good haha
I personally think the AKM's window is within the 0-50 meter range
where the revolver is better in the 10 to ... honestly probably 200 meters
Exactly yeah
listen bro i beamed some people decently far away dont do me like this
we're not looknig for the exception though :c
I have also killed people long range, but its not how most people use the weapon or where it is most effective.
I also killed someone with a repeater over a longer range, but that's just luck and opportunism ;3
I just added the M60 strengths and weaknesses
I thought the repeater shot a slug round for a while
Then I realized it's just a shotgun
im messing with you idc lmao
Yeah, if it would shoot a slug it would make the revolver and repeater basically the same weapon in a different coat haha
that said.. i do think it deserves a wee bit more range
I think they should add a super 90-esk shotgun or the six12 (6twelve?) bullpup and make the repeater a true "BOSG" ;3
aka yes I think a slug tha maybe has a little more damage dropoff compared to the revolver..
Could always change the wiki font to the one that finals use xD
is it available?
if so.. I guess it can't hurt for the headers and such to have said font
You can apparently get it from the press kit that embark has
yeah but if its not a google font its probably not installed on every computer
If the wiki can use Google fonts, it can use Noto Sans and Saira, both are free
Haha, I know this from making various google docs with the fonts
Noice
I have fed a jackdaw with a piece of baguette
Did it turn it into a jacquesdaw?

🥐
Did you have any luck with the social media banners @tropic fjord ?
Lemme ask on that
I think that Duh and everyone who participated should be credited
I can definitely do that but how do you suggest doing that
I guess Duh should be credited for the answer, and then everyone that contributed something to the level, that appears in Flex's Doc, should also be mentioned
I say Flex's Doc, because that's the easiest way to see contributions. But maybe someone else can think of other method
(Going back to the chat would take ages 😂)
Kyne - Keeper of the Padlets
what if i was there for no reason?
Well you joined after the hunt was done for Level 1
I will definitely include you for Level 1 though 
epic
Just as a formatting thing, maybe change "RHB" to "RockhoundBlack"? Since, sometimes new people don't recognise him as just "RHB" 🤔
Fair point, spelled him out earlier figured it was good to just put RHB but I'll change it.
Giriko's name is misspelled I think
you can hyperlink Titles (RHB Video, etc) to prevent having the long URLs btw
Thanks! RHB casually, RockhoundBlack for awards dinners, movie premieres and wikis 

@final token btw feel free to edit this as much as you want https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Tiered_Pre-Release_Easter_Eggs_from_THE_FINALS_website,_Discord_and_Twitter
I know you're about as much of a resident EE historian as I am lol
are we adding credits?
Why not? It is a community effort.
where is that page anyways?
ah ok
I'm just doing it like this since it saves space
But I will go ahead and sort it alphabetically for you
Already on it
leave it to me 🙂
done
I did a woopsie so I undid my woopsie
removed my own name because I am a dumbass xD
looks good. same format can be applied to the rest of the Levels/Tiers as they get added
thoguht it was the general wiki page that was why I was confused about the credits bit because we just started*
but for EE it makes sense haha
since its a ton of effort and has been going on for so long xD
Should each level, or maybe tier, be its own page? 🤔
I feel like it's fine considering it has a table of contents that directs you right where you want to be
i do think right now there's like a ton of navigation to get to the tiers
maybe we can add links in the Main Page for quick access
(Btw, I'm sorry I keep giving feedback on the wiki without contributing anything to it 😅 )
below the EE section
Povich I love you but I'm gonna have to change the credits back to the way it was, just sorted alphabetically. It uses up a lot more space for no real reason.

Yeah, that was one of the reasons why I said have a page for each level/tier, otherwise it'll take a lot of space doing it that way 😂
and i love you too ❤️

so what i think can help is having a summary line/paragraph here and adding the links to each page below
I'm gonna add a specializations table, it's annoying me that it's still empty
i gotta hit like 3 clicks before actually getting to info atm
I think we should make a 2 click rule or something
when we have it filled, try to organize it in a way you can get all info with 2 clicks max.
agreed. we currently don't need these many steps
that way bigger subjects still ahve overview and smaller are more direct
Isn't it only 2 clicks right now?
Oh wait there's a teaser easter eggs section
Let me work on that in a second I'll get it sorted out, unless you're working on it SPEAR
i'm currently not, just looking and reacting while i get some work done
😅
-- no rush so
we now have a tiny specialisations table
sweet
It's so cute I'm gonna dieeeeeee
I was tempted to add blank rows to make it look bigger but meh, would look weird probably
inb4 they add 1 extra ability and spoils the 3x3 table
this works 🫡
also, we doing American or real English spelling all the way through?
I do both unconciously so uh, who knows.
love it!
2 clicks max will make it flow like woopwoo
Strengths and weaknesses of Flamethrower also got added
List of weapon pages on Completion (will be updated)
Largely Done:
AKM
M60
Somewhat Finished:
M11
Sawed-off Shotgun
.30-06 Sniper
Assassin's Dagger
Sword
Repeater
R.357
Flamethrower
SA1216
Sledgehammer
Unstarted:
V9S
LH1
Pump-Action GL
Riot Shield
M32 GL
should we move the image on the M60 page to the right?
Added slideshow of all AKM skins
hot
Reordered the sldieshow so it's in the order of the weapon chart
it's annoying that I can't find any info on the skins that we haven't got a price for
that was my next step 😉 thanks saves me time!
we should probably also determine the max width of images on the right side
I think 440x248 is a good one
well the width is all that matters, 440 is good
we should write a few rules down at some point
yes, every community Wiki has style guides
Yes because the main page needs to be slim
you are removing all content AGAIN
I said 2 clicks MAX
anyway I'm just gonna continue with the M60 page

i liked the previous format - the 2 clicks "rule" is for navigation once you click something in the Main Page
-- we don't have much content, the previous format gives players everything they need right there
to avoid double work, lets just make sure we have all content in first, let's keep it slimmed down and then decide what do then
otherwise Kyne has done all the work for nothing.
I'm just saying we're designing the wiki for the future, yes it's easier to just have almost everything on the main page but it looks sloppy
alright
i'm not discussing formatting again honestly haha, i'll agree to just plug in the content for now
I agree to an extend but making 3 sitemaps on a single page doesn't make sense either.
Table of contents > F ton of links > actual sitemap
either way, I've added the specialisation table to the specialisation page now so we can decide what to do it with it in the future
I'll probably see if I can find the in-game descriptions for each specialisation and add it to the page
Oh yeah sorry Luke. Had to walk across campus before I could add the table back 
it's only a 2 second page create for the table anyway
basically just looking at the history and then copy + paste the syntax for it
if it was something I spent like 100 hours on, maybe I'd cook a namatama infront of you 
When things are settled I’ll do that, migrate info from doc and then continue in the wiki

I did already spend too much time on all of this haha
but its better to have all the bits and then start the shuffle
and I need to accept that too haha
added all the M60 pictures but not too happy with the fullscreen view
we got a lot of shuffling ahead of us as well so just make sure all work is backed up
god no, hopefully not
and taking one step at a time
I wish we still had access to the game just to view like skins and stuff





