easter-eggs

[dull marsh]

you heard me.

[hearty meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/blender-banana-smoothie-food-fail-fail-gif-14381891265409864362

[surreal sinew]

ocb is also a cigaret rolling paper

[snow walrus]

nah nah dont go too far it's original can of beans

[dull marsh]

it's 99% a "clue" back to geocaching, searching stuff IRL

[surreal sinew]

"OCB is one of the world's largest producer of rolling papers, filters, tubes, and other smoking accessories for the RYO-MYO market. The brand has already developed eco-designed products, that strives to respect nature and the environment." https://www.google.com/search?q=OCB&ie=UTF-8

[fading vigil]

so, lvl4 will be not about the earth and ground digging.. to the stars and beyond!

[rugged breach]

Just praying it's not a trials fusion ee situation where the geocache has keys that will open a box in 100 years

[surreal sinew]

oh okay

[hard forge]

it's not that.

[surreal sinew]

oh god please no

[surreal sinew]

ok

[snow walrus]

further read: level1

[proud minnow]

Dusty and Janice are busy with the stream, but they are telling me to stop, haha

[inland hemlock]

(thx gamers for updating https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332758896594387066)

EE hunters more like Castle Hunters

[unkempt dune]

@low escarp want to go find that castle?

[hard current]

@cedar owl it took us 400+ days to make progress, we'll take another 400 to find this castle!!

[surreal sinew]

okay bai bai rob thanks for running away from home but ig mama dusty found you

[fading vigil]

with that map - i was crying because of your evil humour ) sent to all my friends)

[hearty meteor]

im setting an alarm for in two hours, lets see if he has it by then

[proud minnow]

Janice is from Germany, so she knows, there are a lot of castles in GER…

[errant imp]

he is MIA rn haha, dinner time

[fading vigil]

GER..MANY?:D

[surreal sinew]

GER... (this is intentional)

[dull marsh]

bruv

[gloomy anvil]

That's interesting then since Level 3 does have its own connections to geocaching, like May 3 = 123rd day, STS = original acronym for stashes, and the three Xs from Level 1 corresponding to the Level 3 page.

I wonder if those will still factor in to Level 4

[velvet narwhal]

Maybe Dustys drones could help to check them

[solid jay]

alchemical/astrological symbol for cancer?

[sharp flame]

okay here are all the pieces

[proud minnow]

Dusty is threatening to ban me muahahaha

[white patrol]

admin abooze

[sharp flame]

hi dusty!

[inland hemlock]

ohoh she is here

[gloomy anvil]

scram!

[hearty meteor]

ruh roh

[white patrol]

hihiii dusty!

[hard current]

RUN

[white patrol]

xD

[inland hemlock]

classic

[snow walrus]

Dusty's vacation is over

[cedar owl]

My drones are pretty busy these days, currently they are looking for Rob.

[hard current]

wait why would Dusty care about the castle

unless it's a leak for one of the future seasons

[sharp flame]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panicking-panic-run-stressed-gif-5303378

[errant imp]

She is a queen so she lives in one

[surreal sinew]

Rob if u gotta go do you mind taking a look att my cosplay on the way out

[velvet narwhal]

Have we ever tried to dig the sand where the X is on the Masterplan Spray in Las Vegas Sandstorm?

[surreal sinew]

RUN ROB RUN

[inland hemlock]

i think we did

[solid jay]

We need an old book right? Any old Alchemical texts?

[hard forge]

@cold heart already has his location #easter-eggs message

[inland hemlock]

maybe the wrong way

[hard current]

it's inside the vault, there isn't really any sand in there, but yes I have

[crisp eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-farfetchd-pokemon-gif-17872492

[surreal sinew]

@cedar owl wondering whats akim up to cus he told me to ping him round the 7th but he seems to have perished (how many of u are back att work)

[hard current]

Robs badge updated to CNS

[hard forge]

safe to say post holidays withdrawals

[hard current]

maybe the old CNS images?

[surreal sinew]

yep hes working on cns stuff now

[surreal sinew]

huh i might be dumb but i dont understand this

[crisp eagle]

Tired from how busy the holidays get haha

And you are NOT dumb.

[surreal sinew]

he told me to ping him round the 7th tho

[cedar owl]

I saw him today! but first day back from vacation so it takes some time to get fully back in the swing of things

[gloomy anvil]

You can expect people to not be 100% sprung into action after the holidays so if Akim isn't online he may be prioritizing other Embark work atm

[surreal sinew]

decided to wait a day

[snow walrus]

The only triangular castle in Europe

[hearty meteor]

thats not in baden württemberg

[dull marsh]

is this the 3 hares symbol just downhill from the St Mary church in Whitby?

[surreal sinew]

i see thing is i was asking bout if you guys can send assets like the stickers on the eyecaster headwear and he told me to ping him round the 7th so ig now i wait

[proud minnow]

she can’t find me once a hacker, always a hacker… muahaha

[dull marsh]

yaya Hackness

[cedar owl]

Waiting is my #1 recommendation hehe

[proud minnow]

he got back today… ._.

[surreal sinew]

then be free rob live your life and build the ee hunt (but do come back for the majors i need to intorgate you more (also sorry for so many questions att the major 😅))

[fading vigil]

oh, Rob! Someone asked you about roses ee, and you told hime SOMETHING but that person cannot tell us that "secret" or is he?

[hard forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-22344136

[surreal sinew]

wep i waitath

[surreal sinew]

big UU

[proud minnow]

if this is about the vinyl… didn’t he post that in the channel.?

[fading vigil]

iirc yes, but there was something more

[surreal sinew]

he said that you said smth more but didint want him to say but he was gonna ask you about if he can share more

[severe creek]

something about the beanstalk...

[fading vigil]

(or do we need try roses ee from the spring?)

[proud minnow]

haha yes I told two people part of what will happen WHEN you solve the roses… and said don’t tell anyone… but it has nothing to do with HOW you solve it

actually 3, I told Ardy too, but again NOT how to solve it, kust part of what will happen… ._.

[surreal sinew]

is it really cool?

(its gonna be really cool)

[fading vigil]

330 meters at least! )

[surreal sinew]

nah 1337 meters tall

cus this ee hunt is so 1337

[proud minnow]

Yes it is a huge homage to one of the most legendary platformer ever made… ._.

[errant imp]

i can literally see us solving the L3 before the roses 💔

[dull marsh]

bigger than the megalodon, that's for sure

[surreal sinew]

WAIT WHAT

PLATFORMER OMG OMG THIS WILL BE SO COOL (JACK AND THE BEANSTALK?????)

[hearty meteor]

mario?

[proud minnow]

haha yes that was big in the early days…

[surreal sinew]

are we climbing the beanstalk

[past karma]

I wonder if Rob is a fan of FEZ........

[dull marsh]

ok but how do we GET the beanstalk?! 😄

[errant imp]

plant a seed and water it... maybe some TLC

[dull marsh]

Rob gonna make us crazy (again)

[fading vigil]

first time, son ?:D

[severe creek]

jack and the beanstalk on c64?

[dull marsh]

Do we need to be careful about the root nodules?

[sharp flame]

that's what I'm thinking

[fading vigil]

do we need root access to form a beanstalk?

[proud minnow]

I’ve been saying “fee-fi-fo-fum” for a loooong time now…

[snow walrus]

it's easy, just gotta water yk

[proud minnow]

Take care see you soon.!

[errant imp]

Im tall, but im no giant Rob 🥲

[sharp flame]

bye robbb

[proud minnow]

L M H G

[gloomy anvil]

The magic beans grew overnight in that fable

[surreal sinew]

wait can we talk about the rose stuff in roses

[fading vigil]

Light Medium Heavy GIANT

[rugged breach]

We don't hav e any cows or magic bean peddlers to trade with though :(

[surreal sinew]

im tryna transfer it overa and its allot

[gloomy anvil]

bye Rob, thanks again for stopping by

[solid jay]

Jack and the Beanstalk for the Amiga published by Thor Computer Software

[velvet narwhal]

What if the practice range house is The House Jack Built https://www.c64.com/games/615

[solid jay]

That's my second set of eyes baybeeee let's GO!

[rugged breach]

Light Medium Heavy Giant

[inland hemlock]

so many eyes today

[snow walrus]

why are you guys acting like today is the end of the world and finding out the all clues....

[severe creek]

its a trilogy

[solid jay]

It's cause I returned after a LONG hiatus lol

[solid jay]

1 2 3

[severe creek]

i had this one in my notes too and couldn't find it 😭 glad it got called out

[fading vigil]

Guys, leave Rob for now) Let him enjoy his vacation) he already gave us A LOT today 🙂

[surreal sinew]

but we are hungry

[fading vigil]

leeks wont make you full, yk 😄

[gloomy anvil]

I'm hungry IRL I haven't had lunch

[solid jay]

same lmao

[gloomy anvil]

back in a bit

[surreal sinew]

but i can make it into soup

[fading vigil]

and you dont need rob for that, see?))

[surreal sinew]

bye bye rob cya around soon i hope as long as u stay away from dusty

[solid jay]

It's funny the Jack and the Beanstalk clue links directly with my last clue which got 👀 was the colour spectrum iirc.

[dull marsh]

Home Sweet Home

[snow walrus]

beat me to it

[solid jay]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash

This reminds me of the diamond clue

So perhaps we have to apply the remedy for this?

[dull marsh]

that's the only flowers I see? idk XD

[surreal sinew]

guys put this in the rose channel

[solid jay]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash#:~:text=The ZX Spectrum used,of backward compatibility.

[surreal sinew]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036

[solid jay]

This links to a specific paragraph that I found interesting

I gotta eat lunch. I'll check in later.

[odd sequoia]

Could the legendary platformer be Mario?

[fallow agate]

This is a stupid question but is there a watering can or smth on Monaco to trigger the roses?

[dull marsh]

it all looks like it's Jack and the Beanstalk from Thor Computer Software 😄

[surreal sinew]

yeah it does but please can we move this to the prange chat cus i dont wanna move more stuff over 😅

[rugged breach]

It was eyed #easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

#1203859365610922036

[fallow agate]

Does anyone need me online for hunting purposes?

[surreal sinew]

yes go to looking for group

[fading vigil]

I’ve just realised that arc raiders strip colors and sys horizon rainbow can be homage to ax spectrum logo

[dull marsh]

yup

[past karma]

Um, does anyone remember seeing greenery on this building on Kyoto?

[fallow agate]

oh i never asked. but in the practice range are any of the builind names or numbers needed for anything?

[sharp flame]

Oh that looks sick

[past karma]

Right???????

[sharp flame]

amazing 😍

[past karma]

Am I going insane or it was never like that? The building

[white patrol]

this is 100% new

imo

[fallow agate]

not new but its redesigned

wass not like that before

[split egret]

Krahule is so similar to Karlsruhe Germany. There’s a palace there

[white patrol]

pixel dynasty if anyone wondering

[hard current]

So now that we need to look at CNS stuff

I think the FIND PASSWD xx-xx-xx thing is going to be part of this level

I think we have to dig back through those images

There’s a bunch of them…

[crisp eagle]

Gotta chop down the beanstalk so the giant falls, before he has a chance to climb down after us

[low escarp]

L+M+H=G

[alpine junco]

i win one game of deadlock and come back to a major breakthrough, amazing

[crisp eagle]

I need a refresher. Which images?

[alpine junco]

light, medium, heavy, giant

[odd sequoia]

What if the G is gas?

[split egret]

What if the giant is the person playing? 🫨

[alpine junco]

back to the reddit?

[dull marsh]

@low escarp you need to solve the 9 passwords now

[white patrol]

Light stand on Medium, Medium stand on Heavy = Giant maybe?

[surreal sinew]

True

[hasty anvil]

the unicode for æ is U+00E6. 00 (0vif0rm) ,e=3 and g=6 were all key truths in level 3. Just a small coincidence

Just thinking Ægean and Cædmon connection is the æ symbol

[dull marsh]

which iirc connects a lot to Welsh and Norse stuff

[hasty anvil]

Cædmon's only known surviving work is Cædmon's Hymn, a nine-line alliterative vernacular praise poem in honour of God.

[dull marsh]

My understanding is that it's about The Fall of Man, also known as Lost Paradise

[gusty timber]

Did anyone note down the dates/URL on this week's store update trailer

or is this a poster on fangwai that I never noticed?

[solid jay]

Yup that's the association I made also

Also the 9 realms in Norse mythology

[hearty meteor]

dante's inferno?

[solid jay]

Asgard: Home of the Aesir gods (Odin, Thor).
Midgard: Home of humans (Earth).
Jotunheim: Home of the giants (Jotnar).
Alfheim: Home of the light elves.
Vanaheim: Home of the Vanir gods.
Muspelheim: Primordial realm of fire.
Niflheim: Primordial realm of ice and mist.
Svartalfheim: Home of the dwarves (or dark elves).
Helheim: Realm of the dishonorable dead, ruled by Hel.

[crisp eagle]

If we gotta dig up IRL Golden Nama Tamas, I’m gonna be so mad and happy at the same time

Midgard (middle-earth) makes me think of Lord of the Rings. I doubt that’s anything though

[solid jay]

Yeah I made that association earlier today but it got lost in the Rob hype.

The gates of durin required a pass code

[crisp eagle]

Nice! I figured I wasn’t the only one with a giant group of nerds haha

[solid jay]

Wasn't the football player image wearing a number 9 also?

[crisp eagle]

Yea I think raid mentioned that yesterday? Today? Mind’s a blur

[split egret]

Skateboarding, Vinyl, Platformers, Graffiti... I'm calling Jet Set Radio?

[solid jay]

Jack and the beanstalk on the Amiga 64

[split egret]

still catching up on reading, my b

[hard current]

hey guys... we already know where to look

we have to look at CNS now

[dull marsh]

that could be for Level 4 tho

[hard current]

hmm, rob said it was the "next phase"

which makes me think the cns images are still part of this level

[hasty anvil]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1031539174743998526/1265367066869895209
Which sponsor is this?

The DISSUN images were clearly the ones Rob wanted us to focus on, so I think they connect

[velvet narwhal]

Should be Dissun or at least related to Dissun

[dull marsh]

One of the graves in St Mary's Churchyard is said to be Dracula's one

Dracula means "son of the dragon" which seems to be a recurring theme 🤔

Also in Whitby is where Captain Cook's Endeavour ship was built

[gloomy anvil]

today was great but it's kinda screwed up my level 3 geocache theories

[hearty meteor]

[dull marsh]

There's also legends saying Tom Thumb is burried around there

who's story is related to King Arthur

[proud minnow]

Just wrong level…

[solid jay]

Read something about this earlier

[dull marsh]

yeaaaaah, ready to go find actual namas IRL!! (for Level 4)

[gloomy anvil]

haha yeah

we presume it's still those three Namas that we need to find in-game for level 3 though

[dull marsh]

why would it be in-game tho if we're looking for IRL stuff?

oh you said Level 3 am blind

[robust junco]

ROB!

are we on the wrong level?

[gloomy anvil]

ᴵ ʷᵃˢ

[low escarp]

rob on a stream hinted fe fi fo fum and then went like dodododododo
that does kinda sound like the crunchy music from that game hehe

[proud minnow]

IRL is level 4, but level 4 is in game, IRL and in lore… anyway you have still PLENTY of things on level 3 to solve… (ohh and OFC these lovely little namatamas are hidden and available in game too… ._.)

[errant imp]

Have you hidden a Rob-atama?

[low escarp]

hehe theres a song called run rabbit run

[proud minnow]

YES, hahahahah, BUT that is not part of the big hunt… ._.

[errant imp]

IDC ILL DO ANYTHING TO FIND IT

[odd sequoia]

Surely the remaining 2 Nama Tama are also hidden in a similar fashion to the one on Monaco and don’t require an elaborate trigger…right? 😅

[severe creek]

kyoto nama is buried somewhere begging to see the light again

[proud minnow]

the ”dododododoodo, dodododo” is actually Trance Dance You’re Gonna Get It…
(not related to anything haha)

[low escarp]

gonna listen to it rn

[errant imp]

Are we gonna get it though? 😔

[gloomy anvil]

This kinda makes it sound like the in-game NamaTamas aren't required for level 3, but I don't want to read too much into it. Right now still trying to turn them into passwords.

[low escarp]

wait the dissun image hint lead us to a stained glass in a church monaco nama was "in" a church

[proud minnow]

It was a GREAT song when I was sitting writing code and making ”art” and trying to make games, not even a teen back then… ._.

[snow walrus]

Mirror latin egg gold space 5 truths from L2 also fits

[dull marsh]

Ok so 1 2 3 may very well be the 1 night 3 dawns

• Argon = Ar 18 (astronomical twilight)
• Eastwood = 12 not sure how (nautical twilight)
• Zaraby = Sixth dynasty burial grounds = 6 (civil twilight)

[severe creek]

theres also the multico docs but sponsor websites have changed...

[dull marsh]

Thinking about this because the song Rob just linked has a sample of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, which was starring Clint Eastwood

[snow walrus]

We have the thread #1244010150420021340

[pure loom]

Interesting that it stars Lee Van Cleef, and the Sabata movies, which he starred in and also feature a Heavy, Medium and Light build trio, have also come up previously - via the Frank Kramer clue.

[austere solstice]

[gloomy anvil]

Yeah I was wondering about that, although cathedral technically. It was built on the site of the first parish church in Monaco though.

It's so tricky to narrow things down when there are 9 passwords open at once.

Normally I would think MW.AREA #1 = Europe = Monaco, so focus these passwords there. But now we know a fair amount of clues have actually been for Level 4, I don't know if I can be as confident.

[hasty anvil]

The church was in the NE segment of the crossroads (X) of Dunsmure and Bethune Road

And we've had a few clues around 'middle'

So i'm thinking we are on track for either the middle or top-right password

[eternal violet]

what clues are for level 4?

[gloomy anvil]

We don't know which exactly, but some in the non-Dissun images have been about Level 4 - #easter-eggs message

[eternal violet]

oh

i wonder what cns art user8 is refering to

[dull marsh]

tho realistically we only need to focus on something which goes by 3

[hasty anvil]

From the reddit QandA asking how to piece the clues together rob said '2Dunsmure'. 2 and NA matched locations on the S5 keyart, but Dunsmure road is London....

[snow walrus]

was searching for the old book

[dull marsh]

"chalice" close to Holy Grail

[onyx hollow]

Is the SYS in SYS Horizon an abbreviation or an acronym?

[low escarp]

jack and the beanstalk by thor computer software release date 1984
amiga release date July 23, 1985

im guessing the eyes are for "thor computer software "

[solid jay]

Probably on other platforms?

[dull marsh]

yeah it was C64 first

[worn rivet]

It's all coming together

Btw

Any passwords?

[low escarp]

ok so that narrows the eyes down
the game was mentioned before but only now when mentioned with the Thor computer software it was eyed

[rugged breach]

May be worth focusing efforts on monaco in terms of rose gardening

Thor -> thunder -> rain variant

That red spot in the ground near underpass

[pure loom]

could relate to these guys then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin_Computer_Graphics

[dull marsh]

yeah I can see the idea of Monaco with Giant duck + Golden egg, during Stormy Night it gets lightning AND water 🤔

[low escarp]

lightning could be orbital laser
june mentions lightnining and the orbital lasers somethimes when the event starts

[eternal violet]

Reminder that the key art had 1-24 clue

[white patrol]

just a reminder, Monaco fog weather have rain SFX

[hard current]

Rob… the masterplan markup spray… I’m begging…

Are we just clueless

[worn rivet]

I wish I grew up like that instead of developing a tiktok addiction

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf

Beowulf defeats a dragon, but is mortally wounded in the battle. After his death, his attendants cremate his body and erect a barrow on a headland in his memory.

Vitellius sounds like vitellus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowell_Codex

[crisp eagle]

that's where my mind went earlier too. I mentioned it, but it got lost in the chaos. I think we might have their locations being similar to major clues we find

[dull marsh]

Tolkien was professor of Anglo-Saxon 🤔

[crisp eagle]

you thinking about Middle Earth?

[dull marsh]

Middle Earth, "RR in the middle"

obvious ring connection

[crisp eagle]

He liked dragons too

[dull marsh]

even the eye of sauron

[crisp eagle]

but so does George RR Martin haha

[dull marsh]

he created a lot of languages

yeah but Tolkien is connected to Caedmon and Beowulf, not GRRM

[crisp eagle]

maybe the broken up bits on that Dissun image could be elvish

[dull marsh]

Tolkien described the region in which the Hobbits lived as "the North-West of the Old World, east of the Sea", and the north-west of the Old World is essentially Europe, especially Britain.
Reminds me of the NW "coordinate" we got from I_Want_To

One pattern I'm seeing is with very old literature, with Tristan and Iseult, La Morte D'Arthur and now this 🤔

[fading vigil]

Oh, I’ve missed second Rob presence in chat..

[low escarp]

Namárië is a poem by J. R. R. Tolkien hehe

[dull marsh]

What's that poem about?

[low escarp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namárië

sry im to tired to read rn
i got that dyslexia debuff

[gloomy anvil]

Poems have popped up a bit. Lewis Carroll, his Jabberwocky, and also his "All in a golden afternoon" which depicts him first improvising Alice in Wonderland. Cædmon is the earliest English poet whose name is known.

[fading vigil]

We still don’t see the whole pattern of EEs..
First levels was about geocache(3 steps to 1 password)
second level was about golden egg (8 passwords to 2 halves and one final pass)
The third level is about??? (One opening pass to nine passwords to ???)

[gloomy anvil]

Three groups of three

[fading vigil]

Also, ABC tier of lvl2 was about gold

And while reading the wiki: Rob said that “all passwords use latin somehow”. Don’t know is it viable to lvl2 or ALL passwords

[gloomy anvil]

which wiki page says this?

[fading vigil]

But wait!
If Rob was telling that level4 is about IRL things..
We have lvl1 - geocache(how), lvl2 - golden egg(what),
lvl3 - ??? Coordinates (where),
lvl4 - literally finding things IRL

[fading vigil]

Same page:
so maybe, we have three groups of three passwords, to get three locations

[earnest stone]

They just added today lol

[fading vigil]

Centrum Europae.. (In latin)

[gloomy anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

reading this knowing full well I'm who wrote it and just forgot

I don't think all passwords used Latin though. e.g. T1A with 1064 and T1F with 5f137s2.

[fading vigil]

What if burrw gif was all about echolocation or other wave based systems to prepare us for digging mud for lvl4?)

[gloomy anvil]

I hope we don't have to dig mud for level 4

[fading vigil]

Drink the ocean is better for you?)

[inland hemlock]

when did this evolve

[unkempt dune]

I'm not seeing anything that has evolved

[inland hemlock]

it was just a streak on the wall before

the the finals logo was not there

[unkempt dune]

the logo was always there

[hard current]

that logo always there

[unkempt dune]

the streak is at foggy night

[hard current]

the streaks overtage it tho at foggy night

[inland hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959659611475042335/1445034628976214106/togif.gif

[fading vigil]

While I’m hiding from air strikes in my city, I have a possible theory.
We got today some answers and had a fission clue from Rob all this time.
What is dissun? Sort of power/fuel company, right?
So I’ve dived to the petroleum/kerosene history (also an interesting node: Whale oil is oil obtained from the blubber of whales.Oil from the bowhead whale was sometimes known as train-oil, which comes from the Dutch word traan ("tear drop").)

[white patrol]

the streaks are still there

[white patrol]

you can still see in other conditions, just not as visible

[white patrol]

what a badass (I hope you are ok rn 8 :c)

[fading vigil]

Somehow, kerosene history is connected to bitumen, which is used in asphalt (silk roads?)
Even Herodotus mentioned it: The Greek historian Herodotus said hot bitumen was used as mortar in the walls of Babylon.

[hard current]

did we ever analyze old cns images?

[inland hemlock]

i was talking about the logo

im 90% sure i have screenshots without the logo, not on foggy

[dusk siren]

While it seems almost too simple, that was my first thought.
Sorry, Wolfy, that means it's not. 😅 https://mario.neoseeker.com/wiki/Beanstalk#Super_Mario_Bros._3

[white patrol]

oh really badgy show me :3

logo is there all the time as well iirc

[hard current]

does anyone have wikipedia page of st andrews church

[inland hemlock]

i can't find em i think they are too old, could've been different graphics setting since i did switch those

[white patrol]

too old? grow up then you can find them

[inland hemlock]

i only have these in my notes, and then there's an entry called "no TF logo, clear night" but the image is blank so im probably losing it who knows, could've been a bug too, missing decals happens ig

and sunny is missing too

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1378665246247616567.gif?size=160&name=melonhead

[hard current]

updated the miro with findings today

nice to see more red on the big whoop

[inland hemlock]

was thinking about the tutorial EE, we really did get nothing on it, just that is supposedly an Activation EE

[white patrol]

could be :3

[hard current]

sooooo

Rob's pointing us to CNS now...problem is, what CNS images specifically?

[inland hemlock]

this came to mind

[white patrol]

I want the WR tattoo on me 😭

[hard current]

keep throwing out more CNS images if you can

I don't have them saved, trying to add to miro

[dusk siren]

Not the first to bring it up but the Prince Rupert's Drop is also known as "Dutch Tears" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert's_drop
EDIT: And there was the "R-r-r-r-r-rupertius" clue.

[inland hemlock]

we haven't solved: QjtofWEjcml9MhKBubGc4kBvpV+bZzENOIukEMcpglwgbq6ubU944Y8L0mibTU2JhDtcQ/MNGAygC0XL5VOEQICMjPqZ6q0LYWPC2QCqYr0dONuhErv+5cAmOn01uqWWI0VG0Zv5K4Ru9P8aEAMsPxe82pCyh6TosRTlEtyqgTg=

that is found in that image (70.68.71.67.72)

[alpine junco]

the 64 bit key

[dusk siren]

Also, stay safe?!

[inland hemlock]

i would probably take a look at this again: #1204573219894468648 message

[inland hemlock]

i think that is the only one "CNS Themed"

[hard current]

there were some more on reddit iirc

[inland hemlock]

oh i thought you wanted official art ones

[alpine junco]

HydraQ and that one cube image

[hard current]

I think that and reddit ones could both be used maybe?

[fading vigil]

What key can be?
Golden egg, ovoaurum…

[crisp eagle]

that's what I was thinking too. I just don't have reddit haha

[inland hemlock]

the ospuze one too:

[hard current]

got that one on there 🙂

did we ever end up even using eulers identity for anything?

[inland hemlock]

https://www.reddit.com/user/4RCU5/ all of the CNS gifs too are here

[hard current]

oh man

I don't think we ever found a reason for eulers identity did we

[inland hemlock]

that one video too

[hard current]

surely that's gotta be used for this level then?

lets do just images right now if we can

[inland hemlock]

most of the things on reddit were leaks for upcoming content i don't think we found much else in them

[hard current]

yeah I think so too

[inland hemlock]

apart from the multico files

[hard current]

There was this too

[alpine junco]

i dont believe so

maybe cns in the trailers? those can be clues or hints

[hard current]

hey everyone... we have a bunch of CNS images that need solving for level 3 😉

I wonder if the multico docs are part of it too then...

[inland hemlock]

they were scrambled

i wonder if there's a way to unscramble the text

would be one heck of a job

[alpine junco]

theres also that one location in the document

[inland hemlock]

he also mentioned OCB today

tho probably because we switched to the beanstalk mid convo

[hard current]

my guess is a callback to geocache, as we were in the midst of discussing IRL level 4

[inland hemlock]

or that tru

[hard current]

@unborn pilot hehe are you excited, I'm wondering if multico docs are coming back into play...

[inland hemlock]

111

[hard forge]

don't we have that one cns image with long string.

rob said we didn't need it now. so I am guessing those are for either this lvl or 4

[hard current]

Yep, added it to the miro:)

[hard forge]

thanks!

[thorn kestrel]

are there any roses on monaco if so has anybody tried putting them into one of the fountains on the map?

[unkempt dune]

which one are you referring to?

[unborn pilot]

Ofc. I called it yesterday. There’s energy to solve things. Let’s go.

[eternal violet]

Im pretty sure It was used to point to Euler > Euler's totient function > RSA

[surreal sinew]

Don’t forget the various gods domains like frejs (can’t remember the spelling and I’m Swedish )

[surreal sinew]

Ayyy Rock your back good to see your around

[surreal sinew]

I belive sys stands for system as in system horizon that’s attleast how I allways interpreted it since s2

[surreal sinew]

Don’t want this to get drowned out so imma replied to it so yall can take a look (I would but I start class soon )

[surreal sinew]

Wait that’s a really cool idea

[surreal sinew]

He only changed it because he said now new know to dig more into dissun he said that cns was the next stage so maybe we gotta focus on dissun first before cns?

[dusk siren]

Dang that's fire... 🙂

[dusk siren]

Wait, so today it was confirmed that the Practice Range EE is an homage to a classic video game, the platformer "Jack and the Beanstalk".
We also know that the SYS "Secret Room" EE seems to be an homage to a classic video game, the point-and-click graphic adventure game "The Curse of Monkey Island".
Presumably not every EE is going to be an homage to a classic video game, but it seems like it should be a consideration when we are working on one?
For instance, is it likely that there is a DISSUN-related EE that is related to a video game involving the clue "DIG" based on what Rob said today? No.
But nonetheless thinking about classic video games involving the clue "DIG" might not be completely pointless.

For instance, the arcade maze video game "Dig Dug" would definitely qualify as a classic video game.

Just thought it was an idea worth throwing out there.

[dull marsh]

For the "dig" part my understanding is that we're looking for someone dead within Level 3, maybe a character which can come back to life, as he said Level 4 was for when we would be alive

[surreal sinew]

@dull marsh what if this includes somebody who rob knew who died and we will find some statue of them or smth (not really usefull idea but would be sick and smth i could see rob doing cus he is such a good person)

[white patrol]

@low escarp I hope I wake up again and the audio image is solved peaches :p

[worn rivet]

U a lotr fan?

[surreal sinew]

can somebody take a look att my idea in horizon secret room bychance

want another set of eyes

[surreal sinew]

(whats lotr)

[worn rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-6225662105541051721

[surreal sinew]

[low escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-gandalf-indeed-gif-18505269

[low escarp]

if were analyzing cns stuff makes sense to look at the vaiiya art we got #official-art message

[snow walrus]

2022 xd

saltatoria in latin

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/St._Patrick's_Cross

[crisp eagle]

“Available” was an interesting word to me. I wonder if we can unlock them as charms somehow

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypericum_hypericoides

[white patrol]

good catch pibb, I was too excited I didn't even notice :3

[crisp eagle]

I also thought about dig dug whenever I saw him say “DIG”

So does each artwork or sponsor maybe have their own theme? Like everything in the ISEUL-T art might all relate to one thing

Words r hard for me right now. Still early

[surreal sinew]

Wait you didint see it was this not even screenshotted

[crisp eagle]

I think she means she just didn’t notice the wording since we were all reading a bunch of info quickly. I’ll post it to latest news. It’s not on there yet

[snow walrus]

Scotland's flag is considered to be the oldest flag in Europe.

[harsh nebula]

Apologies if im late, im looking at it rn and i noticed that theres this on the most recent image in the official art drops

[snow walrus]

#1337427318716629002 message

[harsh nebula]

Last asl man lord have mercy

[white patrol]

yeah pibby is right

[snow walrus]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/63fz8NZfT3XUxwnX8

[crisp eagle]

Did someone say we’ve had St Peter clues too?

[snow walrus]

During the Carboniferous, Scotland lay near the equator in a position akin to central Africa.

[low escarp]

hehe prob nothing but i turned the fragments from the dissun image into a flower 🌼

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[gloomy anvil]

with Monaco in consideration

[low escarp]

now its jsut pixels

the only place i know where we can dig ingame is that dirt in seoul data center that u can punch and it disappears

[hard forge]

monaco also sounds a good candidate

[low escarp]

i mean its possible, but i dont think so, that all namatamas are on one map

[gloomy anvil]

tbf, as has been pointed out, you need to "dig" for the Monaco Nama Tama by breaking the rocks.

Maybe Rob's use of "DIG", *in the context of the DISSUN images*, meant simply to search for clues, and just doubled as a hint that we need to "dig" for the other Nama Tamas. Like the Legacy Finder map suggests already.

[snow walrus]

Holopychius flemingi fish, which lived during the Devonian period, around 400 million years ago.
https://collections.st-andrews.ac.uk/item/dura-den-fossil-fish/762345
The fish appear clustered together as they were buried during a sandstorm whilst they were forced together as the rivers were drying up.

[crisp eagle]

You can kinda dig on Vegas too. You can smash up the sidewalk. Also makes me think of Sand Storm variant with Zaraby being the only buried casino. It’s also a burial site IRL

[white patrol]

ahh I was looking for this thansk raid

always forgot his name

Is this Jan matejko's bust?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+Andrew's+N16/@51.5706481,-0.080275,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sCIHM0ogKEICAgICu4rL7UQ!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fgps-cs-s%2FAG0ilSyQtQMUIixwlritXBWTRUzva0U90lSuzpBBe0pog0EcG3nzNCEkGXJIy6CwGU9dI_ksDOhmsQxc3RFT8Hj6uFLuBBA9UE9K6u2NHiSziq-_gjIk9__ERTrdrHOcvHUdBtDHEEsb%3Dw203-h226-k-no!7i3024!8i3372!4m7!3m6!1s0x48761c6e4e7b2d73:0x1e5ab04cce7f0f8f!8m2!3d51.5706481!4d-0.080275!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11bwp1v1h5?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNC4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D#

[crisp eagle]

The rune for æ looks like the finals logo

[velvet narwhal]

I think Skyway also has dirt like that

[surreal sinew]

but where is it on kyoto

[hard current]

The whole EE is heavily inspired by retro gaming, history, and concepts :))

[hard current]

Agreed

[hard current]

My guess is “Dig” might be literal here too, I think level 3 is going to be mostly about The Who, what, when, where of the geocaches we have to find in level 4?

[crisp eagle]

I’m dumb with computer thingz, but maybe this be something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_(command)

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeological_excavation#Phasing

[crisp eagle]

Archaeology

[snow walrus]

Phase is the most easily understood grouping for the layman as it implies a near contemporaneous Archaeological horizon representing "what you would see if you went back to a specific point in time".

[gloomy anvil]

We have Dissun clues pointing to the St Andrew church. We know the Monaco cathedral is associated with St Nicholas. There's a reference to St Fidelis in the Northbound Rebel bundle. One way to possibly read STS is "STs" meaning "Saints". Just a thought.

ST in ascii (Oct) is 123 + 124 = 0247. I'm not confident that's relevant but just thought I'd mention after getting it wrong a few days ago lol.

[snow walrus]

why dissun->st andrew tho

[crisp eagle]

The name of the church where the Caedmon glass is

[solid jay]

Wasn't there a dead body on a Vegas roof at one point?

[crisp eagle]

This might be nothing, but the first audio book company that sold spoken word recording is Caedmon Audio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caedmon_Audio

[dusk siren]

mmm... got it, thx.
yeah, that's a good interpretation

[snow walrus]

I mean why did Rob make that link why not vaiiya for example

[solid jay]

Do we know why Dissun is named Dissun?

[crisp eagle]

Ohh ok I get ya haha yea interesting

[crisp eagle]

I was thinking about that earlier. Almost sounds like “anti-sun” in English. Like we don’t need the sun

[solid jay]

Yes but the prefix "Di" in Greek or chemistry means 2

Wondering if we have any actual info on why the sponsors are named the way they are

[surreal sinew]

[solid jay]

I know binary stars were something we looked into previously which is why it interests me

[crisp eagle]

That could be something. My only thought is it would make more sense to spell it “Disun”

[solid jay]

Fair which is why I would want something more concrete

[crisp eagle]

Yea for sure

I like the double sun idea. I think you’re right about the binary stars. I just can’t fully remember either

[dusk siren]

In addition to this being a very good and logical interpretation, without committing too much either way, how much do you think there are two categories of clues and how much does it help to think in these terms (I know there was a big hierarchy of clues you guys were talking about from the start of the hunt, maybe a brief refresher for people would help).
I was thinking, yeah, there's a big gulf between homages to classic video games like Dig Dug and thinking in terms of historical figures who might be buried at a specific church.
Again, without committing too much, the difference between "in-game" EEs and "Big Whoop" EEs?
Opinions?

[crisp eagle]

I think many in-game EE’s are now married to The Big Whoop

[solid jay]

It could be the people surrounding the games too or the inspiration for those games. Like Thor Computer Software links to Norse mythology.

[dusk siren]

Me, too. (Personally, my ramblings here have been mostly obsessed with the in-game stuff.)
But then I tune in to the latest, and people are rocking up with amazing breakthroughs in the direction of an obscure church. 😂
Feels kind of undeniable, Ludenope's suggestion, at least with respect to the logical next step for this clue.

As always, I feel very ambivalent about the whole thing... lol

[solid jay]

Also, and correct me if I am mistaken, but rob mentioned a Legendary platformer right? So is there an in game item or cosmetic that is Legendary rarity that is required to activate something or move forward?

Perhaps a Dissun item?

but then also keeping in mind certain EE's have been there since launch

[crisp eagle]

Didn’t he say that in the context of the practice range EE? That’s when you got eyed for Jack and the Beanstalk game

[solid jay]

Yeah he called it a Legendary platformer, but that could also just be referring to the folklore or a legend shared by generations.

[crisp eagle]

I think he was saying that the result of solving the Practice Range Roses is the homage to that game. And since you got eyes on your guess, that means it’s it

[solid jay]

Yeah I'm bad for conflating things sometimes. We should probably keep this discussion in the Practice Range thread.

[crisp eagle]

That’s how I took it. I think he meant legendary in that sense. It was just a great game of the generation

[hard current]

I think this would be digging too deep, it’s likely the platformer he eyed 🙂

[solid jay]

I'm trying to find if there is a link between Thor Software Company and Rob

[surreal sinew]

only if the item was free

and still obtainable iirc

but has to be free

[surreal sinew]

correct

actually it might be cosmetic cus idk if the free rule applies to all EEs since the roulett lewis was not free but theres an ee with it

[solid jay]

Interestingly here the guy who did the music for Jack and the Beanstalk, Fred Gray, also did the music for Mario Bros.

[hard current]

Rob very well could just be a huge fan… he grew up playing retro games on the amiga and C64 iirc

[solid jay]

Yeah maybe someone who inspired him or that he got to work with though?

[hard current]

Doubt worked with, he was young at that time. Any connection would be through his demo scene days probably

But even then… I think it’s more about the game, and will likely not lead to us finding the “pattern” of the roses in the maps

[solid jay]

Fair, the timelines don't line up well. You're likely right about that. Was just looking for a connection. Same company or something that links Jack and the Beanstalk to something else.

[crisp eagle]

This has also confused me for a while. I’d like to ask Rob if I can ever remember haha

[solid jay]

https://www.mobygames.com/person/44352/robert-runesson/gameswithcompany/5837/

[dusk siren]

Some of us had that thought over on the Practice Roses thread, but devx pointed out to us that it was the "Jack and the Beanstalk" game that was eyed specifically. I think he was suggesting that the platformer Rob was referring to was that kind of "legendary" (as in obscure, but famous or infamous to people who really know video games).

Honestly, though, I have no basis for assessing whether that "Jack and the Beanstalk" even qualified as "legendary" even in that sense.

[surreal sinew]

lets hope hes around more

[dusk siren]

Over in the Practice Roses thread, I did try to map the PR to the 4 levels of the "Jack and the Beanstalk" game.
One of the nice things if that were the "legendary platformer" is that the search space is much smaller.
Mario is an enormous universe of games and game mechanics at this point.
Jack and the Beanstalk is literally an intro text crawl and 4 screens...

[alpine junco]

maybe theres something on sys$horizon we missed

or season 2 related

[hard forge]

dusty graffiti and EE room

[alpine junco]

there was the apple

[hard current]

does anyone remember what this was for

it's on the bottom of this

damnit I can't find any of the threads we looked into for these :/

[solid jay]

So a couple things yesterday Jack and the Beanstalk for c64 was mentioned prior to me getting eyes for Jack and the Beanstalk for the Amiga published by Thor Computer Software. So the clue isn't just Jack and the Beanstalk. The clue was Thor Computer Software.

[hard current]

wait that's strange.. I found the CNS Posts thread, but there's no mention of these hex values in it

did we never decode this??

@dull marsh @unborn pilot @gloomy anvil do you guys have any memory of my messages above? ^^ I can't find anything about it in the discord

[unborn pilot]

Yeah that was solved. I don’t recall what it was

[unborn pilot]

#1213500600117891122 message

[hard current]

@unborn pilot technically, we don't know what this means though right? reboot required, but it never lead to any passwords or anything else yeah?

that and the SYS 64738 command

both indicate a reboot/restart/reset but neither of them were relevant to the current level we were on when these were released

[unborn pilot]

Right nothing yet. But it’s def tied to CNS. That was around the time that reboot “glitch” happened and we got old Kyoto as the map

[unborn pilot]

We also had the “ready” gif, RURDY, etc.

So ready, reset, reboot….so many r

[hard current]

so then, these could very well be relevant to this level

DIT DAH DIT - R
STS - RSR

wait lmao

we're so dumb

Ready, Set, Reboot -> RSR @unborn pilot

[gloomy anvil]

Keep in mind this image was a S3 tease and S3 was all about "the system" going to Kyoto after VAIIYA tried to reboot it

[hard current]

fair, but afaik outside of these CNS images and the multico docs, there's nothing else to look into regarding cns

and.. RSR -> ready set reboot is insanely coincidental if it has no connection...

㈰
the binary translates to this

㈰ Sunday

the ideograph for sun / day

So... a gif that indicates Sunday with a Red flash

[severe creek]

it may have also been to clarify that game specifically since there was another c64/vic20 jack and the beanstalk but it was text-based and not a platformer (although i still think the Thor Computer Software = Thor = Lightning/Electricity is still in play)

[dusk siren]

Okay, but didn't Rob say that the whole EE was an homage to the "legendary platformer" video game itself?

[hard current]

ah Rcade got it I think.. sorry to rehash a bunch of old stuff guys, just trying to dive into CNS

[crisp eagle]

The result is an homage. Not the EE itself, I believe. In context, he’s talking about how he’s told people what happens WHEN it’s solved, not HOW it’s solved. And the thing that happens is an homage. If I’m understanding correctly.

[hard current]

that's my understanding as well

so... I would personally not dig in that direction too much

we know it's likely an homage to the Jack and the Beanstalk platformer produced for the amiga/c64

[solid jay]

Jack and the Beanstalk mentioned several times before that. It might be a clue to the actual clue because it wasn't until I said exactly what I said that I got eyes.

[dusk siren]

Ahhhh! Very helpful. And apologies all around.

I guess I think it's a little ambiguous still

[crisp eagle]

Could be. I’m just saying don’t marry only one possibility. Especially with Rob haha we could do things in-game unrelated to Jack and the Beanstalk that results in something that’s a nod to it. Maybe we do things unrelated and then a giant beanstalk grows as a result.

[dusk siren]

Oh, for sure

[solid jay]

It likely is alluding to what happens

[dusk siren]

It's not obvious to me how "a beanstalk" is alone a huge homage to an entire video game, but perhaps when we see it, it will unmistakably be the beanstalk from that game

[crisp eagle]

I think there will be Jack related things we actually DO in-game. But I don’t want to get tunnel vision and think every action has to be related to Jack. If that makes sense haha

[solid jay]

What made that game Legendary is my next question.

[dusk siren]

100%

[dusk siren]

Well, that would support your "Thor" is the actual clue theory

Or could... not getting wedded to any one idea at the moment

Thor being a legend (kinda)

I dont know, Rob being cryptic as always

Thor... sledgehammer time... Is this one of the things people have been thinking?

[solid jay]

Hammer is certainly interesting

do we need to break the generator with the hammer to infuse it?

mjlonir

[robust junco]

Are we ever gonna try to focus with the namatamas? Or maybe try to figure out next steps for the nazomi citadel arcade levels thingy

[crisp eagle]

My main focus is the Golden Namas, actually. I’m just out of ideas

[robust junco]

Just look i guess

[dusk siren]

I've been working on the Gold Nama Tamas but using mostly in-game hints.
I like the ideas, but others... um, have not. 🙂 ❤️

By in-game hints, I'm including battle passes, LTMs, and other cosmetics

But not exclusively. The Kyoto one could very well have to do with the Bell in the Bell Tower on the cliff, and we have the various "bell" clues from the hunt

I have a theory about smashing it down below in the cellar of the building nearest the cliff in a certain way.
But it is too elaborate to get lots of buy in, and I don't really blame anybody.

I think I laid out my theory for the Las Vegas one, as well... also, very elaborate, involving Alien Invasion, golden flamingos, pyro mines and C4s, and a cashbox

Waiting for other people to have better ideas at this point

[dusk siren]

I was thinking hammering those stones in the garden plot in a certain way.

@rotund swan was cracking me up showing me one of the old Curse of Monkey Island EEs where you just spam an action for some specific number of times until something happens.

[hard current]

so.. @unborn pilot if kyoto was the map that came out with the first CNS incursion.. then maybe that's more supporting evidence for a golden nama to be there?

[unborn pilot]

I think so.

[hard current]

there's a bunch of stuff we got during that time that SEEMINGLY had to do with restarting/reset/reboot but nothing WE could do with it

and, tbh, I can't think of anything we can do with it now, unless we need to find a map and "input" those commands in the text chat, but I doubt that's viable either

[dusk siren]

Hammer these stones in the garden plot a certain number of times or in a certain sequence to "plant the magic beans"?
If the "less N and more P and K" clue were an oblique reference to the relative positions and quantities of the three groups of stones, it might make some sense (N = 3, P = 4, K =5). Just a hammer and beanstalk-related thought.

[unborn pilot]

Hard to say. Might just be lore, might be pointing to an EE on SYS or Nozomi or even those keys we never used from CNS image. 😪😮‍💨

[robust junco]

I wonder if the pebbles are like coordinates or somehow showing us where to go. Or for where to be in IRL or even in game

[hard current]

that key disgusts me

QjtofWEjcml9MhKBubGc4kBvpV+bZzENOIukEMcpglwgbq6ubU944Y8L0mibTU2JhDtcQ/MNGAygC0XL5VOEQICMjPqZ6q0LYWPC2QCqYr0dONuhErv+5cAmOn01uqWWI0VG0Zv5K4Ru9P8aEAMsPxe82pCyh6TosRTlEtyqgTg=

only thing we MAYBE had for it was Eulers Totient/RSA

[unborn pilot]

This monster

[unborn pilot]

Rob said we were “missing” something. missing seems to be a theme now for sure

[hard current]

do you know where the message is? I want to review stuff from that time and see if any of our new stuff could maybe help?

[unborn pilot]

Try discord search with that word from Rob. I have no clue where but probably that thread

[hard current]

i found the messages around it, but can't see where rob eyed a message about RSA

I can't find it in the spreadsheets either...

gah I cannot find

does anyone else by chance have it saved?

[solid jay]

This message has something to do with Euler right?

[hard current]

it might? but nobody knows

Rob brought up this image immediately after saying he wonders what the cipher key could be... @unborn pilot maybe something in here?

[solid jay]

So we need a cipher to decrypt that RSA encryption?

[hard current]

think so...

[solid jay]

but isn't the point of RSA encryption that it's nearly impossible to crack if the string is long enough?

[hard current]

not if you have the key necessary

we'll never brute force whatever this is

[solid jay]

right

[hard current]

and it being ssh relevant likely means it's probably a connection string to a message board

potentially to a BBS specifically

[solid jay]

This seems like the correct thread to follow

He said we were correct about the Black Knight satellite conspiracy but also said:

[dusk siren]

I was thinking just now, if DISSUN has fossil fuel connotations (does it?), then one meaning of "DIG" could be digging for fossils, paleontology.

To extent Ludonope's thinking about being dead and buried and then coming back from the dead, there is the idea of bringing extinct species back from the dead. If the paleontology idea is relevant, likely just one of many other meanings, ofc

[solid jay]

Or oil bringing energy and electricity.

[low escarp]

the } from the vaiiya art also has a direct conection to dissun, we found it by overlaying a dissun image with the vaiiya one

[dusk siren]

Hmm... interesting. It's unfortunate that I may have paraphrased Ludonope poorly. Partly he was referring to something like Lazarus, I think.

[solid jay]

Dissun is an energy company

[dusk siren]

No, I know, hence my reference to fossil fuels... Ludonope's idea of bringing back to life would become more metaphorical in your "oil bringing energy and electricty" and I'm here for that idea too

Especially when you have things like the story of Frankenstein's monster...

Things brought to life or back to life with electricity...

I like your idea a lot, really

But to back up to the Rob clues I was starting from, DISSUN and "DIG", all I was suggesting was that fossils could be one idea for a next step
It's possible electricity ends up downstream from that though

[solid jay]

Well you dig/drill for oil also

[dusk siren]

Yeah, true

🤔

I like the metaphor, I do...

Burning fossil fuels is a bit like bringing back to life the stored energy from the sun over millennia

[solid jay]

Fossils are interesting too after all what is oil made from? I think I'm more inclined to stick with the energy narrative given the sponsor is an energy company

[dusk siren]

Then I say "digging for oil" (or coal) in that case

I thought oil was a promising theme going back a ways, really. When we were plotting those geographic coordinates as N x E, one of them was conspicuously close to the Tengiz oil field in Kazakhstan. Possibly the only interesting connection I was able to make for that location, really. I'm still on the fence about whether those coordinates are just literal locations on Earth, but why not, right?

[dusk siren]

Another question, because it's so hard to keep it all straight, even with a search of the thread, didn't Rob make reference to the DISSUN logo...
It feels like that could line up pretty well (no pun intended). In one orientation it's as if the sun is on top beating down onto the Earth or even into the ground. In the other orientation, it's as if a pool in the ground is emanating emissions, like smoke.

Again, I can't keep it all straight, but if this was in connection to the powe_i_powe breakthrough and St. Andrews church connection, there is the Scottish oil industry (Scotland being just one St. Andrews reference), but that's more offshore oil than onshore oil if that complicates the "DIG" idea.
I'm inclined to let the people who crack the powe_i_powe image to cook on that one, though. I feel like they're the ones going in the right direction on that one.

[solid jay]

Well when you burn petrol you technically are just increasing the entropy of the chemical compound to create energy.

[dusk siren]

I am but a simple man... 😄 I think when I was very little I heard someone tell me, as a little story, that "the plants from millions and millions of years stored lots and lots of sunlight, and when they got buried and hot, they turned into oil, and so when you burn the oil you are just releasing the power of the sun from all those years ago."

I'm not sure I was able to get more technical in my analysis of the DISSUN logo, either (nor am I a graphic designer) 🙂 ❤️

Think of me like a small child

[gloomy anvil]

Dissun's product Red Stream reminds me of RSR, albeit just RS

[dusk siren]

oooh... the missing RSR in powe_i_powe

[solid jay]

I'm def oversimplifying, but really the states of matter are just dependent on the amount of entropy. Think water has a higher entropy than ice because the molecules are not able to move around as freely.

[dusk siren]

I gotta let all you powe_i_powe people tell me what it means. You're on a roll.

[gloomy anvil]

The second dissun image was POWERIS_POWERIS_POWERIS which you could see as 2/3 of "power is power" and therefore 2/3 of RSR - RS. but that may be stretching it.

[dusk siren]

Had forgotten the poweris_poweris_poweris title... @unborn pilot over on powe_i_powe was speculating on getting 3 ❌ 's...
There are a few proposals on in that thread of what they might be.
I thought both St. Andrews Castle and St. Andrews Church were promising. The power of the crown, the power of the church/god, the power of... ??
Probably too abstract to be helpful, though.
EDIT: a random association: R = Rex; S = Savior; R = ? (Reason?)

Only thought of "Savior" because I guess it is related to the IHS Christogram... this Jesuit one is something else

[unborn pilot]

Good find. Hmm.

[silk wolf]

Could the password be a punnet square of sorts

[hard current]

I still think RSR might be pointing to ready set reboot…

[solid jay]

Are there specific codes used on the Amiga used to ready, set and reboot?

[dusk siren]

Reboot definitely fits with ludonope's idea about coming back from the dead, or something like that

Can you think of any possible connections yet to "reboot" wrt the powe_i_powe image and clues?

[hard current]

Yeah, checkout the miro for what I have below the level 3 rework, can’t see it rn:))

[hard current]

Yes - RSR ready set reboot, that’s all I can think of at this time

I still think we need to look at CNS images but nobody else seems to be interested in them

[solid jay]

It def makes sense to look at considering rob changed his logo back to CNS

[dusk siren]

Which ones... I'm not sure I know where to look (not that I expect to be of much help)

[unkempt dune]

I believe that was a coincidence since (from what I can remember) you can see } without using any kind of overlaying

I'd need to verify that again

[calm plover]

👌🥷🏿👀🥷🥷

[hard current]

Checkout the miro board, in the level 3 rework area!

[dusk siren]

Atsuhiro just reminded me that at least in this "Beth" clue the number next to it seems to be 18 (=R?)

[hard current]

I’m pretty sure it’s undecided on if those are letters or numbers after the name?

[dusk siren]

It could be a hint as to where the "Bethune Dunsmure" -> St. Andrew's Church crossroads fits in the RSR sequence (first in the sequence? R = religion?)

[dusk siren]

Sure, but it might be worth a redoubled effort to decipher them at this point given the recent "Bethune" clue. 🤷
That was my only real thought on the subject.

[solid jay]

We need to identify the variables that would be required to decipher the RSA encryption and then plug them into the Euler equation or use the euler equation to decipher?

[unkempt dune]

I'm mainly questioning if they're actually numbers instead of letters even though the missing connection seems to fit

[unborn pilot]

Letters I think cuz they match last names from the movie

Which I believe are meant to lead us to

1. Edmund
2. Kate
3. …

[hard current]

These names (if we include letters instead of numbers) all match up with actors from a movie called “‘Missing”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_(1982_film)

[unborn pilot]

1. Cædmon (poet)
2. ?
3. Piet Hein (poet)

Missing one

[hard current]

Where did our connection to piet come from again?

[unborn pilot]

Gruk came back in 3rd image

Also he made the game hex

[snow walrus]

there is a lens flare during the loading screen maybe that's relevant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_flare

[unborn pilot]

1. RSR
2. STS
3. TUT (if we continue +1)

[gloomy anvil]

Tutel 🐢

[fading vigil]

idk why, but this message associates with word "equinox" for me.. like: ∅= No, X=X , but O=equi is not working..

[unborn pilot]

Actually that’s not O

He posted an Omicron

Ο is 927 Unicode not a normal o

[fading vigil]

Oh, I see

[unborn pilot]

It’s quite odd and specific he used that one… 🤔

[gloomy anvil]

certainly intentional

[fading vigil]

Omicron.. there was a cool game “omikron” back in the days.. with David Bowie, and it was quest+fighting+shooter

[snow walrus]

Letters that arose from omicron include Roman O and Cyrillic O and Ю...

Ю is yu

Ю can reach the finals

[unborn pilot]

Yeah. I noticed it when I couldn’t search for it normally.

[snow walrus]

omicron-iota = Ю

[unborn pilot]

1. Ο / 927 / Omicron
2. ∅ / 8709 / Empty set (matches what we found in image 2)
3. X (marks the spot…normal one)

[gloomy anvil]

Something to consider when we get hex as a clue is that hexadecimal is commonly denoted with the 0x prefix. 0 and X. Just one interpretation to keep in mind.

[solid jay]

Probably not related but worth mentioning X or Chi is the 22nd letter in the Greek alphabet

[snow walrus]

yu

not a strong claim ik

[gloomy anvil]

🞬

The bold Saltire unicode characters do bear a resemblance to the Xs used in the hunt. (which is to be expected... not many ways you can draw a thick X).

But still, reminds me that a Saltire is also known as St Andrew's cross, and we've had our Dissun clues pointing to St Andrew's church.

[snow walrus]

rot1(CNS) = DOT

[surreal sinew]

no the reward is a homage

[surreal sinew]

based on my eye asking if we climb the beanstalk

[crisp eagle]

can someone ping me in the thread for this? I never seem to remember what this was from haha

[surreal sinew]

same

[crisp eagle]

I might be losing it, but Ο ∅ X makes me think of tic-tac-toe. X's and O's and if O wins then they all become ∅. Not an omicron, I know.
The tic-tac-toe board even looks like our current password list for L3

[snow walrus]

Why CNS doesn't have a website

[crisp eagle]

Maybe they do, and we just haven't found it yet

[eternal violet]

would be pretty weird for a hacker group to have a website

[dusk siren]

Yeah, that's what I thought, too!! Leading to Costa-Gavras' film Missing (1982).
I think the "Bethune Dunsmure" clue combined with the clue that was deciphered from that Rob chat/stream...
Ed Terry Beth
Dunsmure
Mervin
...together they kinda threw me, speaking only for myself, as if "Beth" had to be revisited in the other clues as well.
Sorry, I hope that's relatively clear

[dusk siren]

Me, too re: tic-tac-toe and the Level 3 passwords page 🙂
The following idea is probably not helpful, since the directional flow is presumably from the burrw gif Diamond clue out, but one coincidence about those shapes is that they all appear in the gif one way or another, given the way the hidden diagonal clues form an X on top of the O's. 🤷

Also, I've been thinking about 1,2,3 and A,B,C a lot and just categorizing mathematical versus linguistic, that could be an example of:
Letter-Number or Letter (the absence of one)-Letter

Finally, ∅ can also be a letter (e.g., in Danish), which is why in some languages, the reverse empty set symbol is sometimes used for the empty set.

U+00DB is Latin Capital Letter O with Stroke, Ø
U+00F8 is Latin Small Letter O with Stroke, ø

It does look like Rob used the empty set, though. ∅

[crisp eagle]

oh ok noice! I missed the context in the chaos haha

[dusk siren]

sorry... lol

Is there anything that would "logically" go between a Greek letter and a Latin letter? I always naively think of the Romans immediately succeeding the Greeks, even if that is a silly way to look at history.

Greek Letter - Missing Letter or Number - Latin Letter ?

[white patrol]

area, route/road, point

[hard forge]

maybe they use BBs

[dusk siren]

If the empty set ∅ in Ο ∅ X were to represent a missing synthesis of the Ο and X, perhaps it is something like ⨂ or ⓧ ? Like a dialectic.
@crisp eagle was saying it reminded him a bit of the Level 3 passwords page, where each link to enter a password is represented by approximately this symbol: ⓧ

[dusk siren]

interesting...

Reminds me of that idea around the Aegean-themed clues:

• Area: Aegean
• Route: the Silk Road
• Point/Location: Kalydon (i.e., the small island that is part of Elounda off the coast of Crete)

[crisp eagle]

omicron (can't type one) is the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet. X is 24th of the English alphabet.
maybe something like: 15 0 24

probs not though. just slingin' random thoughts that lead nowehere. you know me

[fading vigil]

from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø

[surreal sinew]

swedish keyboards like mine have ÅÄÖ

Å Ä Ö

[fading vigil]

idea was in replacing Æ and Ø

[dusk siren]

007 = 00G = GOO backwards? ☠️

[odd sequoia]

I think this jacket might be important. I think it may be pointing to something to do with sandstorm Vegas. Sandstorms can onset rapidly. I don’t know what to do with this information though.

[hard current]

did we ever investigate the name of the CNS image that had the RSA cipher and eulers identity?

853bzry7wxlc1

I don't see any references to it when searching in discord...

trying to pinpoint what the cipher key could be

I think translation to hex is a good idea, it has 1024 bytes I think?

maybe rob will see this and give us a hint heheh

[alpine junco]

maybe Rob hinting at CNS also means Vaiiya since they show up both on Sys$Hoirzon and Nozomi/Citadel

[dusk siren]

Going by Ancient Greek numerals, omicron (Ο) was equal to 70, but we know that the modern notation was used in a previous clue, which would be written Ο'.
Still, maybe worth noting, since X = 10 in Roman numerals.

[vagrant mauve]

Is this Rob's vague way of saying we're getting a new art or something? He says he's gonna refresh it a bit...

[dusk siren]

Mentioning only because it borders the Aegean Sea, but Caedmon is an anagram of Macedon (aka, Macedonia)

"Center of Europe" = "ro"? I'm just a bit perplexed at where the Krahule clue leads, or does it just mean "center of Europe" for now?
btw, insane find by @low escarp 🤯

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesome_(video_game)

[gloomy anvil]

Is that the name? I thought it was the numbers like 72.68.71.70.69 or something.

[surreal sinew]

I like this idea

[surreal sinew]

Rember he said he’s changing to cns for the next part we still need to dig in dissun

[odd sequoia]

2 years ago…could this somehow tie into all the lunar/moon phase stuff from the season 1 battle pass? There’s a few references to moon phases.

[snow walrus]

Æ -> ᚫ (ansuz) -> ash tree -> Fraxinus (also means spear)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraxinus

In Norse mythology, a vast, evergreen ash tree Yggdrasil ("the steed (gallows) of Odin"), watered by three magical springs, serves as axis mundi, sustaining the nine worlds of the cosmos in its roots and branches. Askr, the first man in Norse myth, literally means 'ash'.[48] In Slavic folklore, an ash stake could be used to kill a vampire.[49] In the Old English Latin alphabet, Æ was the letter æsc, "ash tree".[50] This transliterated the Anglo-Saxon futhorc rune ᚫ

[low escarp]

🤝 i was just reading that page too hehe

[snow walrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217498821563514951/1226565429682503760/dap-me-up-dap-uo.gif

[hard current]

Maybe? I grabbed the image directly from Reddit where it was posted and that was its naming…

[gloomy anvil]

Reddit auto-generates filenames so we can't use those. I think the image with the RSA was posted in #official-art though.

[hard current]

Thank you for the heads up!!

@gloomy anvil doesn’t look like it was posted there

Wonder if Rob knows about that…

[hard current]

Oh pshh

I mixed them up my bad

[snow walrus]

Christ I is found on folios 8r-14r of the Exeter Book, a collection of Old English poetry today containing 123 folios.

All four of Cynewulf's poems contain passages where the letters of the poet's name are woven into the text using runic symbols that also double as meaningful ideas pertinent to the text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynewulf#Runic_signature

sounds like Rob :D

[surreal sinew]

wait OLD BOOK could it be a book inside that curch from the face

[dull marsh]

I wonder if MW means Major Work

[solid jay]

I know this is from a prior level but MW is a mirror of each other also.

[sharp flame]

Hello everyone! Checking in! React to this message if you are reading this 👀

just trying to catch the eye of some hunters

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

doing a major Miro cleanup, like others have been doing

I'm gonna delete some dead-end clues for now

or connections which were more "shots in the dark"

[hard current]

Yeah sorry I’ve been cleaning it up best I can, I deleted my WIP rework since it now seems like it would lead to nothing new, I also added all the CNS stuff I could think of but I’m sure I’m missing some things

[sharp flame]

just do that work on the main area, we need the cleanup anyways <3

[harsh nebula]

Maybe volpe will be involved again with cns re arrival 😗

[surreal sinew]

dont delete u should archive

[austere rover]

Hey, just a random observation, but I don't remember seeing that all too familiar hump in the middle of the Las Vegas strip in any of the trailers. Have any of you?

[dusk siren]

To go with @unborn pilot idea of forming a group of poets (they highlighted Caedmon and Piet Hein) and @dull marsh 's idea of "MW" = Major Works(?), I feel like I've come across the some of the sources of Norse mythology in the past, some of which might be considered "poems" or "major works"

OLD BOOK is an interesting thing for Rob to have highlighted though.

Probably too basic an idea to help, but in the powe_i_powe image, the Krahule clue seems a bit far afield from the several St. Andrews Church/Caedmon clues. (Unless you guys have figured out more about the Crest itself, I couldn't.)
The one common denominator between them,though, is Christianity and by extension the Bible (certainly a Major Work).

[hard current]

Don’t recall, but it has been there since the map first came out

There IS something to do with that, Rob called it a stage

Said there’s a “very obvious reason” it’s there

[austere rover]

Well, for the guitar!

[hard current]

But none of us have ever figured it out

I tried that, I know you can use the inspect with the guitar sledge to play music, but nothing ever happens 🙁

[austere rover]

Awe maaaannn I was gonna try that out 😆

Has anyone put a cashout station on it?

[hard current]

Yep I tried that last week 🙁

[snow walrus]

Death by Rhodent <=> Black Death?

[solid jay]

Black death metal?

[hard current]

I lied, I do not like nor think my idea has value lol

too much of a stretch

[solid jay]

Lmao I'm glad I just finished reading it before you deleted

[crisp eagle]

dang it. you had me looking up euler's identity haha I keep seeing ya'll mention it but have no idea where it came from in the hunt or what it even is

[solid jay]

I didn't hate it but I can see how you might think it's a bit too much of a reach.

[hard current]

let me put it another way...

so far in CNS images, stuff I've found that appears to be... "unsolved" or "unused"

sys 64738 (a restart, reset, could've just been a hint that CNS was restarting the finals, and that's how we got kyoto?)

the famous base64 string that we haven't been able to solve

eulers identity (lead to eulers totient?) encased in a 1064x1064 circle (the melting point of gold?)

potentially strange image dimensions of 1080x607

in this official art @crisp eagle

one of only a few cns images we've ever gotten

[crisp eagle]

ok noice! thank you so much! I need to get back on Miro

[solid jay]

So what can we plug into that formula?

[hard current]

this image uploaded to reddit titled "Icosahedron" in leet speek

[crisp eagle]

I miss the CNS stuff because i don't use reddit

[hard current]

nothing, we don't have valid primes or anything for that, if it's truly an RSA encrypted key

I thought the image dimension of 607 might be one of them though?

iirc these were hinting at SYS Horizon upcoming map

I can't seem to find anything else worthwile in them

Rob changed his badge to CNS but outside of that one long string, I can't seem to find anything else in the images that would... seem to lead anywhere

and many people MUCH smarter than I tried to figure out QjtofWEjcml9MhKBubGc4kBvpV+bZzENOIukEMcpglwgbq6ubU944Y8L0mibTU2JhDtcQ/MNGAygC0XL5VOEQICMjPqZ6q0LYWPC2QCqYr0dONuhErv+5cAmOn01uqWWI0VG0Zv5K4Ru9P8aEAMsPxe82pCyh6TosRTlEtyqgTg=

with no luck

[solid jay]

Could be a lead. My next question would be if we don't have anything to plug into the formula. What is the formula used for in general? Do we have any other clues regarding those uses that could lead us to values that we can plug in?

[hard current]

we need two prime numbers for sure for an RSA decryption

people seem to agree that eulers identity -> eulers totient -> RSA encryption

[solid jay]

This seems likely. I'm wondering if we have to use it to process a signal?

[solid jay]

Maybe applying it to the distortion in an image would reveal things?

[hard current]

my guess is based on rob agreeing with someone that it "looked like an ssh RSA key" it's likely an SSH login for an old BBS chat system, likely where Rob may have hidden more multico docs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system

one of these maybe

I don't know.. maybe Rob has to "refresh" his stuff with CNS still.. maybe that includes new images? though if it did, I imagined maybe he would've dropped them already?

[solid jay]

I'd imagine the clue would be doable without that?

[hard current]

can't say for certain...

Rob had Dissun badge -> look at Dissun images

so my only next guess was CNS badge -> look at CNS images

[solid jay]

Without a refresh I mean

[hard current]

I mean, technically I think so

but no direction to go with any of it right now

all we know is that CNS is important for the next phase we're in, but no idea outside of that

I think this might be the big one for this level

but so far, nobody has been able to identify a single clue in it

there's some really weird stuff I think in the yellow background, stuff that looks like a rectangle around her head, potentially mountain shapes on the left side, something in the empty space to the left of her, but I can't make anything out clearly

was posted 10 months ago, so during this level

something there but... I'm not good enough with image manipulation to understand it

[fading vigil]

Embark post an art “for lore”
EE-chat: decomposites it pixel by pixel, make theories on the objects, etc
Embark: don’t give a bonus to the artist because of “messy” art :))

[hard current]

it could very well be lore related, but Sofia Lies? S Lies?

That's what made me think it was for this level

Rob hinted that level 4 would include IRL, virtual, lore stuff

but maybe some of it starts in level 3?

[fading vigil]

We all know that ospuze not so “good” for people, so..

[hard current]

I didn't realize until I dug in more that I'm pretty sure the tiger fruit used to make it is completely toxic in it's raw form to eat

also grown in the pacific trash patch lol

[fading vigil]

All levels are connected, but we don’t know how for now

[solid jay]

Ya I kinda see what you're saying here. There's like a sheen.

[surreal sinew]

half correct tigerfruit is used in sour core

normal ospuze is made with real tigers iirc

[surreal sinew]

BOX

[hard current]

might as well start a thread for this

not that I think anyone else seems interested in it but

better than me clogging stuff up here heh

[fading vigil]

It will
Make sense if something would be found, imo
We have too much threads already (and 80% is dead)

[surreal sinew]

im intrested if that counts for anytrhing

[hard current]

I’ll keep looking for now

If I find anything that makes sense I’ll say something

[dusk siren]

Probably doesn't help to just eyeball, but I agree that there seems to be lots of structure in that image even just from the transformations you did.

I won't weigh in more because I'm likely the absolutely least skilled of anyone with the image manipulation stuff

[dusk siren]

It seems to me that you're right that this is all about some high-level cryptography stuff, but an extremely naive interpretation of the Euler's identity clue could be "imaginary island of gold". A reference to Thomas More's Utopia (1518), a "major work" of literature? If not, perhaps the mythical city of El Dorado?

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

[dusk siren]

Fwiw, some Maria Theresa thalers were struck in the Kremnica mint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa_thaler

sorry, these were meant for the powe_i_powe thread

[hasty anvil]

R u rdy - ‘missing’ AE and YO

Feels like the password is gonna be ae+missing+old English+europe in some way

Like Europa with missing ae is urop, something like that

[surreal sinew]

I belive I take that cake but I do agree that this is internal

[solid jay]

No I know. I'm just trying to relate it to music cause they are a band.

[crisp eagle]

yea def keep spamming it here. I'm interested too. Just been real busy, and can't use PS or anything else like it for this stuff. But I try to keep up with these findings best I can. I'm of the opinion that this main channel is like a dumping ground for all ideas haha

well, "spamming" might not be the right word. Ya'll know what the dang I mean haha

[dull marsh]

The Hudson Bay is 1.23 million square kilometers, and was discovered by Henry Hudson on the ship Discovery 🤔

Same guy that explored the Hudson River (which goes through New York)

[crisp eagle]

With so many places claiming to be the center of EU, I want to know why exactly Rob has picked Krahule. From what I'm reading, the reasons for most places to make the claim is unknown. Something interesting to me is the claim for the town of Suchowola, Poland.
"The first official declaration of the Centre of Europe was made in 1775 by the Polish royal astronomer and cartographer Szymon Antoni Sobiekrajski"
It's stated that islands were not taken into consideration for this claim, which is the interesting part to me. Just looking at the map of locations making the calim, it would appear that if we included island like those in the Aegean Sea, we would end up with Krahule. Just from eyeballing it.

or at least pretty dang close to Krahule

[crisp eagle]

looking at Caedmon Records' catalog for fun and noticed that "Poems and Songs of Middle Earth (read by J. R. R. Tolkien)" is catalog number (TC1231)

They also recorded audiobooks of
Alice in Wonderland (TC 1097)
Through the Looking Glass (TC 1098)

I think I'm going off the rails though

[dusk siren]

I did like @snow walrus 's suggestion that the Krahule clue, at least, in part, was a clue to Kremnica, actually. #1318635922350149736 message

Kremnica is a much more notable place, as @snow walrus pointed out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremnica

[dusk siren]

It's a shame that the mapped locations from the Lvl 3 pwd page (treated as NW coordinates) get close to Hudson Bay, but not quite there.
Perhaps still a Hudson on the Discovery connection for those locations?

[crisp eagle]

Oh noice! Gold mining, huh. Interesting

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremnica_Mint

[crisp eagle]

Coins. Like in THE FINALS

[dull marsh]

I think I cracked this clue

We figured it translates to Ca/Be/BFMoP

The format obviously looks like a date

THIS IS WRONG, IGNORE (Be is 2 not 3)
If we take the period of each element, we find 4/3/2253

In Roman calendar year (ab urbe condita, also noted "au") it gives us March 4th 1500

Copernicus also observed a conjunction of Saturn and the Moon on 4 March 1500.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus

And from what I understand that's while he was studying in italy, which would justify even better the use of Roman calendar

[dusk siren]

Yo..... that's nice ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

@unkempt dune and I were talking about a date, but that is so much more elegant and nice for a Rob clue.
Gives you that tingly feeling. 😅

[dull marsh]

yeah the format is so obviously a date haha, in hindsight it's almost ridiculous

[dusk siren]

Conjunctions of celestial bodies also feels like there is lots of room.
I haven't quite been able to make sense of the significance, but you can have conjunctions of two or more planets.
I'll forward a recent post just to suggest the flavor, not because I think it's right.

[dull marsh]

Yup, it's whenever celestial bodies come within very close range in the sky

[dusk siren]

In truth, I don't know if "alignment" is the same thing as "conjunction"

I might have just misremembered (sorry)

[crisp eagle]

how did you math this? my brain isn't working

I'm seeing 4 from 3 and 1 but confused about the 3 from 2 and 5

[dusk siren]

Ludonope math... it's special math (I know you trust him, though)

[dull marsh]

I think alignment is just in space in general, conjunction is as seen from earth

[dusk siren]

Oh, he mentioned elements, we might have to check the periodic table to see what he was saying

[dull marsh]

(this would be an alignment but not a conjunction)

[crisp eagle]

ohhhhh see what I mean. brain off. I missed the elements part lol

[dusk siren]

I suppose they would be in conjunction with each other but... yeah. 😅

[dull marsh]

Ah shit I may have messed up nooooooo

Be period is 2, not 3

[crisp eagle]

I don't even understand it anyway haha I just take your word for it, and am now sad

[dull marsh]

It's basically on which row of the peiodic table they are

[dusk siren]

Mystery man some actor portraying Copernicus in a film? Not that I can find a good one (yet).

[crisp eagle]

pibblix sees it now! thanks, king

[dull marsh]

I mean we found our mystery man now 😄

Well my theory's wrong anyway so we can move on and ignore lol

But overall I still think it looks like a date 🤔

[snow walrus]

The first true gold coin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croeseid

Lydians were Aegean

[dusk siren]

It's ...MoN ?
Would that give a different date according to your method?

4/2/2252 ?

[dull marsh]

i based it on that

[dusk siren]

You didn't buy the "14" rather than "16", I take it

[dull marsh]

both are possible

For that this is what I see 4/2/1499

Hans, King of Denmark is formally crowned as King of Sweden and his wife Christina of Saxony crowned as Queen Consort.

[dusk siren]

Yeah... mmm... I'm going to go back to the image and see if there is any possible connection to that fact... ever hopeful

Mystery man confirmed

[dusk siren]

fwiw... what do you think about trying to convert the days and months as if also the Roman calendar?
I tried combining what the wiki article for the Roman calendar says about days of the month and the following calculator supposedly performing a conversion from Roman to Gregorian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar#Days
https://planetcalc.com/8535/
Probably still nothing, but my best guess for how to do it spit out "Sat, Feb 11, 1499" "Feb 13, 1499"

[dull marsh]

hmm

[dusk siren]

Maybe you'll get something different with a better interpretation of how the heck to convert the Roman days to arabic numerals

Feb 13, 1499 didn't seem to be anything

[snow walrus]

The first coins known to be minted on European soil come from the island of Aegina.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint_(facility)#History

[dusk siren]

On the Aegean? 🤔

I'm partial to the "coin" idea for so many reasons, but it is so open to random interpretation...
Here's an example that I stumbled on that had good associations, but only good associations.

Coins are also related to commerce, so there's a bit of a Silk Road association, as well.

But so easy to "rabbit hole" I find

[dusk siren]

Even has a dolphin on the front side and a tortoise on the reverse side... 😭

[dusk siren]

I know there's no reason to arbitrarily do it, but if instead you used the atomic numbers of Ca and Be and then converted the year using the rows of the periodic table, you get 20 Apr 1499/1500.
I wouldn't bother to suggest it, but this battle on 20 Apr 1499 was memorialized in this painting and I couldn't help notice the "X" on the banner, and right next to it the crossed swords ⚔️ . I figured post it and let people ignore it.

[dusk siren]

Perhaps worth noting that the Discovery had at least one other captain, William Baffin, who is credited with discovering Baffin Bay and the Davis Strait in 1616, which IS where one of the pairs of geographic coordinates from the Lvl 3 pwd page is located using the NW direction.

Baffin is also the namesake of the William Baffin rose.

[dusk siren]

I just processed this, finally... this is really interesting.
I might try to see if there is any coinage that commemorates the Calydonian Boar Hunt, as Ludonope was saying recently that when it came to the KALYDON clue he was leaning toward the boar hunt reference and not the Elounda island reference.

If there was a solid Calydonian Boar Hunt-related coin, that could be at least one thing that genuinely ties together Aegean, Herodotus, the Silk Road, and Kalydon (if you don't like the Kalydon/Olous coinage theory)

[dusk siren]

Just had a thought on what many think will be the location of a Las Vegas Gold Nama Tama EE.
This image I took got plenty of eyerolls, which was captured during Sandstorm where the "X" in the vault on the Masterplan Markup map is located.
For the sake of argument, let's say the marking in the sand represents "52".
We have the "Masterplan Markup" map, of course, but we also have the "52 Pickup" throwing knives skin from the Las Vegas Battle Pass.
Hypothesis: One part of the EE trigger "picking something up 52 times"?

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomer_Copernicus,_or_Conversations_with_God#/media/File:Jan_Matejko-Astronomer_Copernicus-Conversation_with_God.jpg

[dull marsh]

DO NOT

I WAS WRONG

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1361253232193572934.webp?size=28&animated=true

[snow walrus]

Robber barons
Patron saints

patrons of places where they were born or had been active

Kalydon (island)>Elounda(town)>Agios Nikolaos(municipality)=St Nicholas

Saint Nicholas is a common placename in Greece and Cyprus, since Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of sailors, and of Greece.

[snow walrus]

There is a wikipage but not sure how accurate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron_saints_of_places

[dusk siren]

If you guys hated the previous Las Vegas Masterplan Markup idea, this one is better but I'm sure also more infuriating.
The idea from several cosmetics and clues is that the "X" in the Masterplan Markup map is just the starting point of the other half of the path.
It hinges on the path roughly representing the number "5" in the map (you have to buy this for starters)
Then, you need to interpret "52 Pickup" as implying that you "pickup where you left off", which in this case means after forming the "5".
The description of "52 Pickup" is "one card is all it takes to change the game." The interpretation would need to be that it is adding a "2" (another "card") to the "5", which changes the implications of the plan.
The description of "Masterplan Markup" is actually "Show our fans that you are always one step ahead." The interpretation would need to be that you have to go one step further from what is given to us in the Masterplan Markup map, which could be completing the path with a mirrored "5" to get a "2".
The cosmetic "X-Citing Discovery", which came right after the Monaco "Lost Legacy" map in the Season 4 battle pass, says "Every great adventure starts with an 'X' on the map."
Starting from the "X" was the key to interpreting the Monaco map. Perhaps it is also the key to the Masterplan Markup map (and possibly the key to the other Lost Legacy map, as well).
I find it striking (many will not) that when you mirror the "5" in the Masterplan Markup map to get a "2" and sync them up at the "X", the outline of the dashed lines may in fact represent a UFO "beaming something up".
Maybe where the "beaming up" appears on the map (see the graphic) is where the real action takes place for the Las Vegas Gold Nama Tama EE (similar to how the real action for the Monaco GNT was only found by starting from the "X").

[surreal sinew]

u should put this in the rob save yourself thread

[surreal sinew]

we found or dissun poster mystery man

allread unless we got another one to go crazy about

[surreal sinew]

i like this idea i really do

ik im not the biggest help this level but i love reading all this and saying things now and then i really hope i can be a bigger help next level since we will need to do stuff irl (as i belive the only ee hunter near stockholm i hope i can help btw is there any other swedish hunters idk thought id ask)

[misty halo]

hey so whats the deal with this skin for the arn? i never noticed they added a multi co sponsor skin with some eerie descriptions, the gun itself is restricted only to M.E.T.P. graduates, well what is METP??? and they keycain in the bundle states there was a ton of these but was destroyed after the initiative shut down? what initiative are they referring to? and what is that white writing under the railing for sights? am i going crazy or is there more to this?