easter-eggs

[dusk siren]

No consensus that I'm aware of, but we considered potential double meanings...

So both the dude and also the Caesar shift to "PWabC"

[unreal jetty]

Yeah I did that last night

But like I was saying the passwords might not be all bunched up different things this time

[dusk siren]

I agree

[unreal jetty]

I was thinking it could be relatively simple but more to find

[fresh quiver]

Just read somewhere that x^y could also be „the set of all functions from Y to X“

Sets would fit with {

[unreal jetty]

How do I make a thread?

[dusk siren]

I've already posted my best ideas for: (i) Four "big, colorful, cryptic" letters on Las Vegas that are easy to see (seriously considering that that could just be a string of length 4); and (ii) "xyrr1x2," which itself could be a short string or refer to a short word like "vector" or "real vector"

[fresh quiver]

For what do you need a thread? We might have some already

[unreal jetty]

For potential t3 passwords

So we can just talk about what the passwords might be

[worn rivet]

Don't we have that already? -9

[unreal jetty]

I have no idea can someone link it if there is one?

[fresh quiver]

#1226677330689261631

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I've shifted my probabilities in favor of "xyrr1x2" being something specifically mathematical. Keeping an open mind, tho

[fresh quiver]

We try to type the password into all 9 password slots. Just to be sure

[fresh quiver]

I am thinking about this since a while too.

It really sound like one

[unreal jetty]

Yeah I'm pretty sure the website is bugged for me it just shows me a pw screen instead of letting me choose one

[alpine junco]

no need to ping

[dusk siren]

You might be landing on the page where you have to enter the final password from Level 2 to access Level 3 (the one with cetacea, asconce, and slies mashed together, i dont recall how)

[unreal jetty]

Okok let me try

[pure loom]

Here's a page on a code that Lewis Carroll made up: http://alangarner.atspace.org/code.html

[unreal jetty]

Bruh where can I find the code again

For lvl 2

[dusk siren]

Anyway, I got sidetracked... was just going to give an example of how something like this might end up working... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_II_of_Tosny

[unreal jetty]

It might've reset my website

[pure loom]

you mean this info: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_2_-_The_Promise

[dusk siren]

The wiki?

[unreal jetty]

Yeah I just got it lmao thanks though

[dusk siren]

Oh, yeah, thx, RHB!

[unreal jetty]

My website reset for some reason

[dusk siren]

Re: Raoul II of Tosny's dates... I do not think it's right, or even remotely close, but "XYRR1X2" would work something like: X = 10, Y =27 , RR = "Raoul II, (son of Roger I?)" , 1 = 1 , X = 10 , 2 = 2...

[alpine junco]

@unreal jetty this might answer your question about how hard this tier is

[dusk siren]

Decoded.... 1027 - "RR" - 1102

[worn rivet]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

Im green now

[unreal jetty]

Oh ok so the black night IS the picture we need

Okok

And how many clues have we found so far? Has anybody been keeping track?

So SZdeF is related to one of the clues inside the Black Night image...

[alpine junco]

• more

[unreal jetty]

Ok so all these clues are probably linked to the black night clues in some way

[alpine junco]

well i did recently find the letter "i" in that image but it lead nowhere

[unreal jetty]

Haha maybe we need to see something else first for it to make sense

[dusk siren]

Sorry if this has already been looked at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRRrrrr!!!

[dull marsh]

lmao, didn't expect to ever see a reference to that in this server

[dusk siren]

Was news to me!!! 😂

It does seem to have a bit of a cult following at first glance

Also, you guys probably carefully concluded or had Rob confirm that it was "Karl-Robert"... but the first time I heard it, what registered was "my name is called Robert Ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-rupertsius." Also...

1. If I counted right, that would make 7 R's, just like in RRRrrrr!!!
2. Made me guess that you guys probably already also looked at this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Rupert (sounds like a guy Rob would be fond of, but not for the puzzle?)
3. Waterdance's reaction was priceless (even funnier when I tried listening at 0.75x and 0.5x speed)

[ruby prawn]

I really didnt think i was the only one that spotted it lol

[dusk siren]

"Knight" in German is "Ritter"... perhaps relevant to xyrr1x2... especially if the xy and 1x2 are codes for dates which I'm guessing would need to be something like 10yy A.D. and 1102 A.D.

"Red Knight" would be "Roter Ritter"... would not be an "easy" get the way Rob is always insinuating it is, tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Knight

According to this article, Lancelot was briefly called the "Red Knight" along with having been called the "Black Knight"

[hard current]

is it possible we should count how many times it runs its route before leaving?

[pure loom]

Just stumbled on this massive list of ciphers - might be useful https://www.cryptogram.org/resource-area/cipher-types/

[hard current]

hey wasn't someone in here remaking the miro at one point?

[dull marsh]

wdym?

[hard current]

I thought someone was making another miro that had been updated with ideas

it was @empty plaza

[dull marsh]

I don't remember another miro being mentioned

He was working on the Rose EE clues on it tho

[hard current]

ah nvm then

[empty plaza]

Wha?

Oh I was making an updated PRR board

[hard current]

yeah I just checked it out

props to whoever has been updating the tfee wiki, it's very well done

it feels like the answer is staring us in the face yet again, it hurts

I wish we could figure out the vegas letters that are a password

[empty plaza]

I’m still waiting on confirmation that some of our PRR connections are correct

[crisp eagle]

Yea I keep going back to the wiki and reading past levels I wasn’t involved in to get ideas on how the clues worked. It seems so easy and obvious, because science is fun when you know the secrets. Then I review level 3 and feel stoopid

[dull marsh]

I don't think we'll get much confirmation until we get a breakthrough

[hard current]

damn we've been stuck on this level for a lot longer than I thought

[fallen jasper]

a thread where?

[rugged breach]

Not really, just the courtesy of checking whether one on the same topic already exists, and not megabloating the list

[fallen jasper]

has anyone any idea of moles in steam forums trying to tarnish this games rep?

[fresh quiver]

Feel free to ask before you open a new thread. Some threads have not been used for some days and are kind of invisible.

[worn rivet]

Rob send the string of numbers 1+2+3+4+5 here, and the scene the quote is from is act 4 scene 5, is there something between word, row, ?, act, scene

Because it might have pointed to a specific word

I mean like word 1, row 2, ? 3, act 4, scene 5

[fresh quiver]

1-5 Are the 5truths of hamlet Ophelia

[hard forge]

why are we looking at Ghost from the past?

[worn rivet]

And here the columns are LIGO and XVII, first one pointing to a gravitational wave observatory and second one being 17 in roman numerals

[hard forge]

wrong chat

[worn rivet]

I'm catching up on the hunt, and that's some observations i made

[proven steeple]

the 17 could refer to GW170817 possibly?

its the famous gravitational wave (and gw170817A is the gamma-ray burst follow-up) that LIGO detected

on August 17th 2017

[worn rivet]

I looked more into ligo 17, and there seems to be some interesting stuff

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW170817

Do any of these numbers match anything we've seen?

[fresh quiver]

yeah. JBB / LIGO was a clue we got iirc in T3?

JBB = Jocelyn Bell Burnell

[worn rivet]

JBB = Juliens block battle /s

[fresh quiver]

wrong channel here for OT 🙂

[worn rivet]

Was it used as part of the solution or was it a dead end

[eternal violet]

it was used in the sense of jbb -> nobel medal -> gold

[gloomy anvil]

ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ᵃᵉⁿᵉᶦᵈ ⁺ ᵃˡˡ ᶠᶦᵛᵉ ᵗʳᵘᵗʰˢ

[crisp eagle]

Thought this seemed pretty interesting. His work on Orbital Rendezvous caught my eye, and he’s also the one who determined that the Black Knight was space debris.

He worked in the Mission Control Center for several Space Shuttle missions from STS-1 on, specializing in orbital rendezvous techniques. This culminated in planning the orbit for the STS-88 mission, the first International Space Station (ISS) assembly flight.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Oberg

[silk bolt]

i smell lore

[worn rivet]

Because of "Scotty made me do it"?

[silk bolt]

yes

[hard current]

just for fun hehe we never found these

[fresh quiver]

I know 😄 And they might still be in the menus hahaha

[alpine junco]

I feel like theyre time related or we gotta type in something like how in battlefield you had to press “f” in the loading to unlock a new map

[hard current]

see you tomorrrow…

the repeated r’s…

the missing r’s

[fresh quiver]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRR_(disambiguation)

[hard current]

the shifted r’s

it’s not even necessarily pointing at any one thing with R, we have missing r’s in powe is powe, repeated/stuttered r’s in rob hints, too many r’s in tomorrrow

[worn rivet]

Maybe he was trying to tell us that he will be back in three tomorrow's

That means he will be back today.

(Cope)

[fresh quiver]

R could also be Leet = "|2"

which could be read as L2.

[hard current]

is there something with R in alice in wonderland we’re missing?

“Oysters should only be eaten in months that include R”

the R flashes during that sequence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walrus_and_the_Carpenter

Lewis Carrol through the looking glass

recited in chapter four to alice by tweedle dee and tweedle dum

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/alice-IV.html

[hard current]

this is chapter 4 of through the looking glass, includes some interesting white rabbit things and Dinah

https://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/resources/chapters-script/through-the-looking-glass/chapter-4/

remember that waterdance clip where rob was running around in a circle? 4 times around be enough for a dance

that’s the only connection to R i could find for aiw… let me know what you guys think

[spice lark]

so uhh... I take it nama tama egg represents humpty dumpty?

The AIW references connect almost everywhere

[lusty marlin]

guys

what about the watch and the sticker from the battlepass?

last time the map duck sticker indicated the golden Nama Tama

[earnest juniper]

hi, new to the EE scene, but have been playing since mid season 3. i just finished watching all the rockhound videos and theres something thats stood out to me. he showed a clip of, i believe the man responsible for making the music, and he was jammin hard and air drumming. but his drums werent accurate to the song, and tho the tracks are catchy and bangers in their own right, has any one thought to look thru the music for any EE clues?

i also found it odd that they have included all the past seasons OST as well, like maybe weve missed something in older songs as well. and based on the vids, rob does seem to like to help us along at times. maybe them making so we can hear the old music is a twist on the namatamas hed send if we were getting stuck

just a thought thats been keeping me up since discovering all the EE content

[worn rivet]

Is there something in AiW that's space related? Either outer space or like a special place or a character that can warp space

Warp space as in the scientific space

[lusty marlin]

I don't think is something directly about warp space, indirectly it's in AiW, like the multiple doors of different sizes and at the beginning the infinite looking rabbit hole if i'm not mistaken, in game is the cube statue in SYS$HORIZON map that looks like a tesseract

[fresh quiver]

Just noticed this while setting Miro up for S5 BP.
H20h So Cute.

So. H20 is cleary. but the following "h" ? dunno

Also "So Cute" are both beginning with capital letters. None other description until this item had Capital letters mid sentence.

[worn rivet]

I think H20h is H2O + oh so cute

But that the capital letters are interesting

[fresh quiver]

ah yes

[lusty marlin]

I think it's a combination of the H2O and the word Oh!, a juxtaposed compound

I tried some chemicals and there's only one, CuSO4, copper sulfate from the combination H2O S Cu, nothing else

[worn rivet]

H2OSC

houte

[spice lark]

Well... I just spent the last 20 minutes in a private match destroying every candle on Kyoto. Nothing interesting happened.

[lusty marlin]

i'm digging more into chemicals, CuSO4 can make metals have the aspect of the Sundial watch in the battlepass

remember "Science is fun when you know it's secrets!"

and technically CuSO4 can produce toxic gases(trying to connect this with the gas canister in game)

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_(spacecraft)

It's the 9th mission of Discovery Program

[earnest juniper]

Also, I can't post photos, but the sticker "lost legacy" is a part of a map that is similar to the spray map that rockhound talked about in the past. Not sure if there's a way to find the other pieces, but I think it could lead to something.

[snow walrus]

4th is Stardust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_(spacecraft)
11th is GRAIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRAIL

Let's check S3 OSTs
Stardust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgFRj4cCM5g
Mizty's Ebb and Flow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiKUIEq0wEc

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVq_aoh53IZEb1DPa3usrT4--jeNVk-do

[lusty marlin]

I'm now analyzing the "Arena Legacy Sticker", it seems to have 4 symbols repeating on the inside circle, I tried mayan alphabet but nothing so far: https://imgur.com/a/IldVZKL

[earnest juniper]

it kinda looks like a cashbox and a cashout station

not sure what the charater in the middle could be, maybe a rendition of the player

the box looks like its in motion

[lusty marlin]

I'm seeing a cube ≡ circle
a "T" in between a rock and the rectangle and then that tower that looks kinda like a cashbox: https://imgur.com/a/oMv35tY

[fresh quiver]

we talked about that around 10 days ago.

I think we agreed that Its "a person/player who throws a cashbox into a Vault over Goo"

[dusk siren]

I bet people have done some work on this, but I've liked that idea for a while. Was looking into the absurde lyrics at one point. Glad you might be joining the scene

[earnest juniper]

sounds right to me!

[lusty marlin]

I joined recently, didn't see it but it makes sense actually

[earnest juniper]

yeah i thought that was a very interesting thing to do, then with all EE vids, i started to think.... glad to be a part and hope to help make some progress!

[fresh quiver]

the others are also fun/ sounds familiar to me.
DAVINCI (2031-2032), InSight (Open your eyes?), Kepler, Dawn (3 dawns), messenger, stardust

[dusk siren]

"Axie Amigo" contains "aegi"... if it's something, maybe i'll find out more...

aegi axiom... lol... 'baby' axiom?

Someone pls save me if "Axie" is obviously something

[sharp flame]

Axolotl

[dusk siren]

I still sort of like the aegi thing tho (double reference) 🙂 The "So Cute" did make me think of it instantly

I know it was an opportunity for Rob to highlight his love of Rs and their relevance to the EE hunt, but I hope Rob didn't also hint "Your EEs Tomorrow"... If so, just hoping he's ok 🙏

[lusty marlin]

I'm still thinking of a connection with that sundial watch, I've seen some variants with a compass inside

[earnest juniper]

the sundial watch all together is a weird one for me, i certainly would bet its got some EE behind it. being part of the battle pass ttoo

[dusk siren]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covellite

[lusty marlin]

thats what i'm thinking, It has to be something with it

my connection so far is:

The axolotl description, CuSO4 from "H2Oh So Cute!" witch connects to the sundial watch by the chemical reaction making that green-ish blue color
Then this chemical also can technically make toxic gases like the one from canisters in game
These with the phrase " Science is fun when you know it's secrets!", makes sense to me but could be just another rabbit hole

[fresh quiver]

can you ellaborate to us how you got to CuSO4 from "H20h So Cute"?

[earnest juniper]

i find it weird they even have a sundial as a watch. i thought they only worked if the dial was on a fixed point, like the ground, so that it could tell where the sun is acurately.

[earnest juniper]

i think you might be onto something tho

[fresh quiver]

just a nod to the mayas i guess. Also the sundial just fits into the seasons theme

[lusty marlin]

H2O
S
Cu

combined, the only chemical I could find is copper sulfate

because all the capital letters

[earnest juniper]

i did chalk it up to that, and the fact that watches seem to be a indiviual thing in the game, but now the EE have me thinking differently

[lusty marlin]

did anyone tried glitch and sundial watch? it's possible to see it when you are glitched?
I'm trying to see how we can make that compass

[dusk siren]

It is tempting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(II)_sulfate

Lots of good copper sulfides, though, too. (Since the "o" after the S is not capitalized.)
Example: Chalcocite, "sometimes found as a primary vein mineral in hydrothermal veins."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcocite

This also puts us adjacent to pyrite (fool's gold) territory

fwiw... names like chalcocite feel like they could be anagrams for Aztec words or names

Too bad something like Xochicalco doesn't quite work (two letters off)

I was also reminded of "Alice" along these lines, or even "Alice's cat" or something like that. Just interesting anagram potential.

[earnest juniper]

that would bring us back to AiW, there could be something with that

[lusty marlin]

do we have any connection with the Yorkshire Sculpture Park so far?

[lusty marlin]

I just discovered that when you have the Key Command Charm and press ctrl or Z it also shows pressing the keys on the charm itself, didn't knew that until now

[earnest juniper]

Has anyone look at the "first-fray doodles" body paint yet? there are some odd doodles as well as what looks like the planets in a line, as well as quite a few numbers, a pair of dice, and what looks like could be the white rabbits

not sure what else can be seen, im wearing the top for the mayan character this battle pass

[lusty marlin]

I m looking into it rn

the planes look like the normal order of the solar system

dice 1 and 4

and there's a number 105 under the right armpit

GT = on a piece of bread

809 also downwards

[eternal violet]

everything on that tattoo has been discovered when it released, in march or april

[lusty marlin]

nama trauma lol

[burnt sun]

copper sulfate monohydrate would fit it even better. CuSO4·H²O

[gloomy anvil]

This is most likely a reference to GToast (player & community member)

[burnt sun]

or Boothite (Cu[SO4]·7H2O[3]) - which is a mineral

[fresh quiver]

@indigo chasm you ever thought about this? 😄

[mossy wedge]

So, I just wanted to fly around the map as a spectator. Is there an easier way to do that without needing my PC and two laptops running the game simultaneously? 😅

[gloomy anvil]

you can try getting a few people together in #1217498821563514951 !

[burnt sun]

tomschmo been faster than me, already presented some hydrates :D

[lusty marlin]

I'm searching around the maps too

[earnest juniper]

thanks, new to it all so i wasnt sure

[mossy wedge]

Is there no way to choose the spectator slot until all the other slots are filled?

oh, just press "X", i see

is there any reason SysHor almost always hosted at clear night?

[hard current]

use thermal on it 👀

that’s my next step, that and vegas

[mossy wedge]

strange single glowing cube https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1331049436117340190/image.png?ex=679033e3&is=678ee263&hm=01e95ad44581eb40f8f33c7d8460758a30ec32419290cb46ebae4e3bc9cbfdb7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1294&height=542

[alpine junco]

arrows changed

[unkempt dune]

ayup

t'was a funny coincidence that they were V shaped previously

(for reference)

[fresh quiver]

damn

[unkempt dune]

I still like that Skyway Stadium hub idea I had a while back #1282815551944659104 message

[lusty marlin]

anyone tried to make something with these: https://imgur.com/a/2pkmJQU

[mossy wedge]

yes, just yesterday xD

[lusty marlin]

haha, did you put the apple in the hand?=)

[sharp flame]

thank god I might add

looks good now

[mossy wedge]

Yes, but not perfectly. Goo and anti-grav cube is the most useful there

[lusty marlin]

hmm, I wonder why they are all 3 one on top of each other, to me looks like some kind of puzzle

[lone stratus]

i shouldve taken screenshots for proof, but for a little while in the practice range i was in there was a reflection of the spawnroom in the back wall of the shooting range and a big floating logo board for the finals between the furthest 2 dummies, i threw a grenade in the spawnroom and it disappeared when i went back to check

i cant tell if thats just a bug or if there was something important in that

[sweet thistle]

I'm pretty sure I know what you're referring to, that's a bug

[lone stratus]

good to know

[hard current]

how funny would it be if rob dropped a new image rn

it’d be pretty funny methinks

rob saying R all the time clearly hints at reversing guys it’s just

ecnocsaaecatecseils

😭

we always over complicate… hmmm

wonder if... maybe r just means 18

r = 18, but we had so many 19 clues leading to the length of the password, however if we were to remove a duplicate, say, the double aa between cetacea and asconce, would lead us to only 18 characters, which could then allow the rule of 3rds...

but, probably not, would be a big guess to just say the aa between asconce and cetacea

The letter R is sometimes referred to as the littera canīna 'canine letter', often rendered in English as the dog's letter. This Latin term referred to the Latin ⟨R⟩ that was trilled to sound like a growling dog, a spoken style referred to as vōx canīna 'dog voice' (e.g. in Spanish perro 'dog').[7]

In Romeo and Juliet, such a reference is made by Juliet's nurse in Act 2, scene 4, when she calls the letter R "the dog's name". The reference is also found in Ben Jonson's English Grammar.[8]

The doubled ⟨rr⟩ represents a trilled /r/ in Albanian, Aragonese, Asturian, Basque, Catalan and** Spanish.**

given our current battlepass... wonder if we're maybe looking for a spanish password(s)

it's lonely here at night est

[sharp flame]

I'm personally spending time on the MultiCo files, from pre-Season 2

I only just recently found which font they were using (Typeka) and I'm just going through the redacted words to see if anything persists

[earnest juniper]

i cant respond in the other section, but im down to search for stuff and lend a hand

[pure loom]

I just noticed these two black bottles of OSPUZE at the Glamora outdoor bar are indestrucible.

correction: hard to destroy

[earnest juniper]

the black and yellow ones on the bars inside the spots are also pretty hard to break. usually are still floating after the bar has been destroyed

[hard current]

@pure loom

can you throw something as far off the western shore as possible

and then something off the north shore

throwables only clip through the north side shore I'm pretty sure

do you have vortex grenades equipped

these grenades trigger out of bounds

but they won't trigger if you throw off the west shore

[dusk siren]

SZdeF... I just learned there are 52 white keys on a piano. Notes are usually all capitalized, of which "deF," there is only F. Lower case could suggest "minor" keys. At least one website says if you have a song with Dm, Em, and F, it is either in the key of C or Am.

Perhaps a related example?

These chord charts look an awful lot like that image along the right border of the whiteboard in the game?

* sry, if the potential chord chart was already noted previously

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Dm, Em, and F can all be played using only white keys... fwiw

I don't know music, but looking at one of the images above, if Dm-Em represents the iv-v progression... maybe Dm-Em-F represents a iv-v-vi progression.

"iv-v-vi" is certainly kinda cool

I guess those roman numerals would make sense if we were in the key of A minor (Am)? * First thought: Am ~ America?

Ironically, I'm finally watching "Alice in Borderland" and saw a "52" EE-ish thing and that's the only reason I pulled 52deF back up to see if I couldn't come up with at least one other potential angle...

[earnest juniper]

that looks too close to be a coincidence

[dull marsh]

It's G6, that was used as a clue for Level 2 as G=6

[dusk siren]

lol... I'll delete 🙂

[dull marsh]

nah

it's fine dw

you can leave those fr

now it makes the convo weird 😄

[dusk siren]

No worries...

[dull marsh]

and it can be good to mention old clues again as a refresher

[dusk siren]

Maybe the d-e-F thing is still something 🤷

I think you're post on G6 will be enough of a reminder. But I'll remember that for the future. thx 🙂

Anyway, I think you can cover all 52 white keys on a piano playing only Dm, Em, and F triads
Well, unless you're being really strict about the roots of the triads, then all but the first three white keys beginning at the left (A, B, C), maybe.

Just wrapping this up... each A minor scale is 7 notes, repeated for 7 octaves, 7^2 = 49 of 52 white keys in total.

[south cedar]

a friend of mine found this on kyoto, was apparently in a tree or something. is it important?

he got a pic of when it broke

[velvet narwhal]

We have already found a few of those trees. Could you please check if this tree is already on our map

We still don't really know what they are for...

[south cedar]

I'll ask if I can get the full clip so I can find where it is

[cyan mulch]

Maybe it's related to the sys horizon model 1887 skin (disket bezel)

[velvet narwhal]

We know it's somehow related to this clip from Monkey Island, but we don't really know what to do with this information
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5imGrkuqCSc

[south cedar]

its not, the tree is here

at least I think that's where it is? I may be wrong

TA messes my brain up with map knowledge

[cyan mulch]

But it can be related to that weapon skin

[velvet narwhal]

Thx, we'll check if it's a tree near there

[south cedar]

the one that spawned the disk is exploding in the screenshot

[velvet narwhal]

Possibly. But I don't think you need the weapon skin itself for the EE. This would make it an EE gated behind a skin you'd have to pay money for.
There could be information on the skin that could help tho.

[cyan mulch]

I'm talking about this

[dusk siren]

Robert Edwin Peary shows up in S1E7 of "Alice in Borderland" (2020, TV series)... I do not know if that detail was in the original manga (2010-16)... One of the mapped coordinates is at the northern tip of Greenland, associated with Peary and his expedition(s), with a region even named Peary Land... I haven't noticed a huge number of links to mapped coordinates of late, so posting this as a long shot.

[velvet narwhal]

Doesn't one of our coords also point to the northern part of greenland?

[fresh quiver]

I think he might mean our mapped coordinates

[velvet narwhal]

ah... I misread

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_in_the_Sky_with_Diamonds#Background_and_inspiration

is Beth Hart's first cover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Hart#Beginning_years_(1987–1998)

"Beth H" is a given clue in VAIIYA official Art
#1320004425019949097 message

[hard forge]

very interesting dread

[snow walrus]

Chapter Which Dreamed It? 's poem

Lingering onward dreamily
In an evening of July —

Children three that nestle near,
Eager eye and willing ear,
Pleased a simple tale to hear —

Long has paled that sunny sky:
Echoes fade and memories die.
Autumn frosts have slain July.

Still she haunts me, phantomwise,
Alice moving under skies
Never seen by waking eyes.

Children yet, the tale to hear,
Eager eye and willing ear,
Lovingly shall nestle near.

In a Wonderland they lie,
Dreaming as the days go by,
Dreaming as the summers die:

Ever drifting down the stream —
Lingering in the golden gleam —
Life, what is it but a dream?```

Another Beatles song inspired by Lewis Carrol's poem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_the_Walrus

[mossy wedge]

i found an (Easter?) EGG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1331262566646939711/image.png?ex=6790fa61&is=678fa8e1&hm=4a59070c8808480a7f74d19a90dd3e8eaa0e6dd34dde84f8cf0dab4c9b5d76de&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1294&height=542

3 of them placed nearby

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1331265589863518208/20250121161145_1.jpg?ex=6790fd32&is=678fabb2&hm=c10512a74f9ccb7d51a3f398aa928216eb5b8543d2e8ee06817386367267c1c8&=&format=webp&width=1294&height=542

[low escarp]

probably a bug but u never know

[warm bobcat]

I love scrolling through this chat. It feels like schizophrenic rambles lol

[mossy wedge]

I think he just jumped over you, as he started shooting from far behind right after

[low escarp]

pretty sure i would have seen him jump over me and u can hear bullets from behind the wall

[warm bobcat]

Schizophrenia

[keen ravine]

why so many lights in that game??

[low escarp]

average bank it moment

[keen ravine]

dam

[mossy wedge]

there is a single account that belongs to "Embark" role without "Embark |" preffix

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1331302290992140309/image.png?ex=67911f60&is=678fcde0&hm=71c40fba6b6c16a2b40e8c40cc6dd2a5f82797fd7c6ae816181cc3fc9a6ec951&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

"OrangeBlossom - teaonthefourthfloor"

[spice lark]

This would actually make such a cool specialization. One that turns you into another objects for x amount of seconds, and you can only stand still. In this case, they would turn into that plant pot.

[dull marsh]

I don't think Embark dev accounts should really be looked into, unless they're really involved with EEs, I wouldn't dig anything unless it's Rob or @raven zenith

[mossy wedge]

it just that the account stands out, and its name and ID looks very strange with the provided color and position. But it was created a long time ago before release though

[alpine junco]

I think there is a schizo thread

[dusk siren]

It's a good point Ludonope makes, but to the extent that it might not actually be a person at all, then it could be a clue

[dusk siren]

I think I will repost the G(maj) and G7 ideas here...

I was thinking maybe we should be more open to the idea of double, even triple, meanings for clues

For instance... maybe it's just a nod to "52" that, of 10.52, 24.71, 44.90, there are two numbers that don't match the land mass areas to the correct number of decimal places (at least from that source).

I was reminded by 10.52 of 01:23 (e.g., 10.52 might translate to _..52, which would be d52, which reminded me of "SZdeF" =? 52deF)

So the source I was pointed to had Europe at 10.53 km2, while the clue was 10.52, and had Asia at 44.58, while the clue was 44.90. Meanwhile, 24.71 was right on the money for North America... Just a thought that was bothering me this morning.

Also, as long as we're starting to track connections to STS-88, I realized this morning that the idea of 52 white keys on a piano opens the possibility of 88 keys on a piano being something at some point, even if not for STS-88

This has a combination of some cool "STS" and music connections, even if not really to pianos, per se. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_synthesizer

H.G. Fortune (RIP) was someone who wrote software synthesizer plug-ins, one of which was the STS-33 (also a name of a different NASA mission)

[dull marsh]

The clue was not 10.52, it was just the top of the number which could have been interpreted 2 or 3

And I get these exact numbers as a Google result if I search Europe area, etc.

[dusk siren]

Ah... appreciate that... I'll def take your word for it, but I'm still having trouble with Asia at 44.90... sorry to make trouble, tho

Anyway, I just thought staying relatively open-minded might be useful (although I get the problem with being too open-minded)

E.g., since 10.52 could be "10.52" or "10.53," maybe both are relevant...

Morse code translation of 10.52 (converting 52 to binary) yields "BAND"... Even if not right, maybe we can review how having settled on Europe, Asia, and North America has helped us to date. The more connections to those, the more confident we can be that it's the primary/only meaning of those clues.

Anybody know this font? Would be nice to know to compare the shapes of 2s and 3s.

[snow walrus]

in the thread there should be a few ideas about it. maybe rcade or toxena did experiments on that i dont remember very well rn

[hard current]

afaik those are the land areas of asia, america and somewhere else

[snow walrus]

#easter-eggs message

[hard current]

I think it’s per the world atlas cause lots of conflicting numbers but those seem to match up

[dusk siren]

Much appreciated, dude. Well, that video has the number as 10.52, fwiw...

[hard current]

wondering if all the R’s could be pointing this way

The set of real numbers, sometimes called "the reals", is traditionally denoted by a bold R, often using blackboard bold, ⁠
R
{\displaystyle \mathbb {R} }⁠.[2][3] The adjective real, used in the 17th century by René Descartes, distinguishes real numbers from imaginary numbers such as the square roots of −1.

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I'm just saying the numbers are close, but only the number for North America is spot on with wikipedia's numbers, and even using Ludonope's numbers such that Europe is spot on at 10.53 (and I can buy that it might be either 10.52 or 10.53 having looked at some similar fonts), Asia seems kinda far off.

If there is any discrepancy, that might also be pointing to a clue

[hard current]

The largest continent on Earth, Asia’s total size is roughly 17,212,048 square miles (44,579,000 square kilometers), or 30% of the planet’s total landmass.

from world atlas

[dusk siren]

oh.... it's 44.58... why I've just been seeing 44.90 is beyond me. 🥺 my bad

[hard current]

nooooo worries!!

[dusk siren]

Several of us have been playing around with one meaning of Rs being that for sure... It is very tempting. The xy...1x2 all seem very 'mathematical'

[hard current]

agreed, maybe not rr though

[dusk siren]

Well, RxR or R -> R or even R^R... these are mathematical concepts

You guys are gonna have to ban me at this rate, but I'm still having a hard time finding one consistent source matching those three numbers simultaneously (especially Europe, it seems). That's the one that should match 10.52/10.53... several sources have put Europe's land area at 10.19 km2, at least one even less than that. This image is from worldatlas.com (although maybe unaffiliated with the official "World Atlas")
BOTTOM LINE: It might be nice to have the sources, and preferably links, to the Europe number just to make sure the precise N Am and Asia numbers aren't pointing to an interesting discrepancy with the Europe number. sry to trouble, as always

[hidden basin]

there is another one with name "embarkyta" / metsawyr

[snow walrus]

Embarkers are not involved with easter-eggs unless specified clearly

[mossy wedge]

still, there is "Embark" at the start of the nickname

[fresh quiver]

Fourth floor was a little EE iirc in the beta of BF Hardline / appeared to that time.

Okay not a EE. But a dogtag you got from the BFH closed beta.
Probably also an old dice employee

[mossy wedge]

Looks like the map conditions (weather) are tied to some kind of rotation by every 10-30 minutes, is that true? I just restarted the lobby and got three standard issues in a row

[alpine junco]

SK TH TR TH

[hard current]

who got the SR summon

[snow walrus]

What is the common point of Wonderland and The Big Whoop?

They are not real. So..

The Hunt is a lie dream 🤣

[pure loom]

Like those, the Hunt is just a story for Rob to play with...

STORY is an anagram for "SR Toy"

[dusk siren]

Positing three thoughts cuz im still iffy on that clue ive been harping on (and probably will continue till I track down a consistent statistic for Europe):

1. Perhaps the areas of N Am and Asia match precisely in order to point to the area of Europe, where it's the discrepancy we are supposed to notice.
   • 10.52 - 10.19 = 0.33
   • 10.53 - 10.19 = 0.34
2. Perhaps 10.52 really was meant to be translated to "BAND" using morse, which, in turn, might suggest that the other numbers are frequencies. If they were 24.7 GHz and 44.6 GHz, these would fall into the satellite communications and radio astronomy bands (see image; now also being considered as bands for 6G mobile services). I don't know if you've had any puzzle clues related to sponsors yet (VAIIYA already seems promising), but ENGIMO was a sponsor of S4 and its promotional videos prominently featured sine waves.
3. Separate from these hidden decimal / continental land area clues, I wonder if we should bear in mind the idea of "black-body radiation."
   • One argument for doing so is the connection to the sun and, in turn, DISSUN and HOLTOW
   • The second is the possibility that Nama Tama in space as the "Black Knight" could have as one interpretation as a "black-body" satellite (STS-88?), which as a satellite, would naturally use radiation to communicate.
     Further stuff along these lines, I'll start putting in the Rabbit Holes thread. thx for considering

[hard current]

rob seems to only hop on when there’s lot of activity in this channel

let’s get active 🤪

[static ingot]

It's probably a reach but I noticed some plants are very susceptible to breaking with just walking into them. Could there be a universe where WITP can be walk in the plant lol?

[hard current]

hm… maybe? but there was that one water dance clip where it’s… sort of implied by rob that a witp may involve walking in circles

[dusk siren]

24.7 GHz in the ka-band of radio frequencies... Kara?

44.6 GHz in the L-band... fwiw

Actually, looks like there are three main classification systems (ITU, NATO, IEEE)... 44.6 GHz could also be in the V-band

IV-V-VI, in theory, could refer to UHF bands or the channels in those bands. That's all I got for radio stuff for the time being.

[dusk siren]

"Band KaL" would literally be these guys... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kal_(band) The other most promising interpretations of "KaL" strike me as (i) Kal Online (MMORPG), (ii) Kal (first villain ever on Doctor Who), and (iii) Korean Air.

[dusk siren]

Longer shots: Kal Penn -> Pennsylvania (Penn.) or University of Pennsylvania Band (which actually has a pretty long wikipedia entry)

Only "KaV" of note... Kaspersky Anti-Virus (which seems controversial, even if VAIIYA is a cybersecurity association within the game)

[spice lark]

If anyone has been trying any passwords for MW, at the very least try to enter them mirrored. For example, if the password you are inputting is "mirror", try to input "mirrorrorrim" as well

[crisp eagle]

do you know about our password thread yet?

[spice lark]

Sure, i'll post this there too

[crisp eagle]

Oh no I was just asking if you had. It’s just a spot for us to put in passwords we have tried so we can keep a record of them. So you can add any that you’ve tried too

[sharp kayak]

What if the only way to get into the secret room is be in spectator

[dull marsh]

I don't think so because Rob said that you can go in it and "hide", which implies you were not hidden before, so not a spectator imo

[dusk siren]

Re: "XYRR1X2"
Given that the "RR" was once the name of the "R" line in the NYC subway system, and 1 and 2 are also names of lines, perhaps someone could figure out one or more subway lines that "X" and "Y" could represent such that, including transfers, you had a subway route that could be followed.
I was thinking that at least it would be another NYC connection, and perhaps Rob emphasizing the "it's easy... it's got an RR in the middle" was just a hint that we could be talking about something as simple as a "railroad"-type transit system.
Posting in case someone wants to take a crack. I tried, and could argue that EFRR1E2 works, but I think there are other possibilities, one of which might translate more obviously into something.

[earnest juniper]

i was actually gonna make the railroad connection too after seeing the bit about Penn. university, as Penn. has a very rich railroad history

[dusk siren]

Well, I think RHB was talking about RRs back in his Gilded Age video. I bet my first thinking along those lines (no pun intended) traces back to that.

[earnest juniper]

gonna have to re watch that one!

[pure loom]

This might help: https://map.mta.info

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I was working off one of the MTA maps. I bet a clever person could use each stations' lines served to map a large number of potential routes using a computer program. That's certainly not me, though!

[pure loom]

here's the lines it shows

[dusk siren]

Anyway, I only posted it as a long-shot. (Sry, guys - that pretty much describes everything I post, unfortunately)

btw - people like different kinds of reading and viewing material, but if you haven't read or seen "Alice in Borderland," you might find some echoes to The Finals, whether or not they have anything to do with the EE hunt (although an AIW connection could be spot on). Anyway, yeah... so many "orbital lasers" 😭

[pure loom]

This info is off Quora, so maybe use it with caution:

The New York City subway system skips the letters H, I, K, O, P, T, U, V, X, and Y in its line names primarily for historical and practical reasons:

Avoiding Confusion: Some letters, like I and O, can easily be confused with numbers (1, 0) or other letters in certain fonts, especially on signage. This could lead to misinterpretation by riders.
Existing Designations: Certain letters were already in use for other transit systems or designations. For example, K and T were used for other rail lines or services, which could create confusion.
Simplicity and Clarity: By limiting the alphabet to certain letters, the system maintains a level of simplicity and clarity, making it easier for riders to remember and navigate.
Historical Precedence: The naming conventions have historical roots dating back to the early 20th century when the subway was being developed. The decisions made then have largely influenced the current naming system.
Overall, these letters were omitted to enhance clarity and usability for passengers.

[dull marsh]

Especially as now Quora has A LOT of AI generated answers 😅

[worn rivet]

I was thinking that it might be above the buildings, in the parts that just fade out of existence

[dull marsh]

The heck is Redstream?

[gloomy anvil]

Sounds like a trademarked name for some technology or infrastructure Dissun owns

or like Nord Stream

[dull marsh]

Sounds like an "artificial oil" or something

[little charm]

Guys?
https://youtu.be/qXpMRW9BA4M?si=GkjQ9V35IEV6zlM5

[dull marsh]

New charm in the IVADA CATACLYSM SET is a 9x9 matrix with various images on it

[velvet narwhal]

The backside has 2024-5 on it

[dull marsh]

They get inverted and blink like that, some of them many times, some of them a couple of times, didn't count them

Not sure if we had IVADA slogan before?

EQUIP. ENGAGE. EXCEL.

[dull marsh]

Oh yeah the back seems pretty interesting

[tawny cove]

i think its synthetic fuel. their slogan says 'limitless energy' and the V8 engine would indicate fuel

and ofc v8 or any combustion engine that far in the future would have to run on something renewable and synthetic, as is the case for us IRL by 2030 at least here in EU

just for reference, SHELL and Ferrari have been co-developing renewable fuel for F1 that will come to consumer markets 'soon' as a direct replacement for petrol. Ferrari has been pushing EU hard to allow developement of combustion engines after 2030 and so has Porsche, and they seem to be successful from what I've heard in F1 engineering news recently. This largely voids the all EV rule the EU planned for 2030. anyway, i think Redstream is a mirror of the F1 fuel we have IRL

[gloomy anvil]

It seems like some flash more than others. The number of flashes for each symbol in the sequence could mean something.

[ornate ice]

aight guys im back
have any passwords been found

[snow walrus]

MW Area 1-2-3 🤔
❌ ❤️ ☀️

GLITCH9 Helmet

[alpine junco]

F5

[fresh quiver]

Intersting things that could be connectet that happened in May 2024

• May 7–11 – The Eurovision Song Contest 2024 is held in Malmö, Sweden. Swiss contestant Nemo wins with the song "The Code"
• May 10 - A series of solar storms and intense solar flares impact the Earth, rated G5 by NOAA, creating aurorae at more southerly and northerly latitudes than usual. This was the first G5 storm since 2003

atleast these are the most interesting ones. Other things are just a lot of recent politic things

[rigid sandal]

A Nyabyte could refer to a playful term coming from a nybble which is 4 bits!

[fresh quiver]

how did you thought about nyabytes? it wasnt event talked once about here? 😅 Just trying to understand your thinking

[dull marsh]

It's in the title of one of the cosmetics

Just noticed this number at the top of the DISSUN ad right at the end on the DISSUN logo

[worn rivet]

@fresh quiver converting the big letters in H2Oh So Cute to binary you get 1110101000, wich when converted gives these results

Although I'm not sure whether to count the "2" as a 1 or a 0, and whether the spaces should be converted to something as well/ ve input in the binary (as in 1110 10 1000)

[dull marsh]

Also not sure if we've really looked into the binary code on the VAIIYA billboards, I've tried a little without success

[worn rivet]

Ok so if you exclude the 2 you get 110101000, wich gives you a character that appears in the latin alphabet, and is based in the number 2

[fresh quiver]

coordinates maybe? atleast it would work as coordinates.
72.575625 77.08928

added to a map with all 5 origin NE coordinates.
red is marked the new one.

almost looks like they are mirroring with the point in the middle and 2 other points

[hazy girder]

did anyone solve the cns leaked documents?

just stumbled upon them and now im curious

[fresh quiver]

we just have a few words that you can read barely. but else? nope.

We still don't know where the leaked multico documents might be uploaded to

[crisp eagle]

They show up here too. I never noticed them

[hazy girder]

all i got was that the 'civil nautical astronomical' was referring to the sun setting

as in different twilights

[alpine junco]

just realized this helmet is modeled after the Monaco grand prix firefighter helmet

[hazy girder]

ha i noticed that on an f1 video i got in my feed

[alpine junco]

also modeled after f1 racing helmets

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadriga

[opaque reef]

whats this?

[low escarp]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1252315342328565760

[worn rivet]

Are the in-game dissun trailer and the one in updates different?

[hard current]

I’m guessing it’s not a trivial thing to run a simulated virtual reality as complex as the finals is

[worn rivet]

There is this symbol on the overburn mask

[crisp eagle]

I’ve been seeing people saying the car in the Dissun ad looks like it’s the new Batmobile, and it does resemble it. Maybe another Dark Knight nod?

[errant imp]

someone already talked about this in the SySHorizon Secret Room Thread!

[crisp eagle]

That’s one of our Hunter too 🫡

[white estuary]

Wraith's pink suit has the same symbol with "DISSUN" written on it. I would send a photo, but I don't have the authority, as I understand it. THE SYNTHSPRAWLER

[worn rivet]

What cosmetic is it on? If i have it i can send a pic of it here

[white estuary]

THE SYNTHSPRAWLER

[worn rivet]

They seem to be flipped tho, interesting

[worn rivet]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

Sir Saint Rob

Please🙏😔

Return to us once more

[burnt sun]

I'd say redstream = dissun fuel

[hasty anvil]

fire engine red + redstream = water

(/s)

[hard current]

we NEVER went anywhere with the fire engine red eyes on the og holtow record website did we

[fresh quiver]

i think not?

[hasty anvil]

Yeah nothing came from it I think

apart from a link to the Seoul fire stuff in servers?

[fresh quiver]

just thinking about it, it reminds me about the smart fridge 😂

a green line on the right side.

[hasty anvil]

The only other bit of green is on the car dashboard inside

that might just be a glitch effect

[burnt sun]

theres a similar green line on all of the letters

[fallen jasper]

There is much better and safer AV out there

[fresh quiver]

It does not matter if there are much better and safer AV out there.
This is the EE channel for theories etc.
and seeing KAV as Kaspersky antivirus for comparing with the smart fridge? why not.

[dusk siren]

Well, there's a strike against my theory that DISSUN was primarily a solar power company.

But a strike for my theory, going all the way back to RHB's Gilded Age video, that sponsors have industrial analogues both in our past and present. E.g., DISSUN = Standard Oil, NYC ca. 1890 but also DISSUN = ExxonMobil, Houston present

Also, vehicles in the game confirmed (a dude can wish)

[dusk siren]

My thought, too. Another example is how the oil and gas industry talks about upstream, midstream, downstream... just fwiw.

Anyway, yeah, lotta streams going on.

[earnest juniper]

is this is first were hearing of what the dissun company is? or has it been disclosed before?

[spice lark]

nah that's xspuze

[earnest juniper]

ospuze is a beverage i thought

[spice lark]

you drink ospuze, you don't drink xspuze

[earnest juniper]

this could also hint to cars becoming a thing finally. i know rob has made comments about how he couldnt get the handling right with them some seasons ago. pretty sure its in a RHB vid

[earnest juniper]

never have seen it spelled like that before

[spice lark]

Well rob did say we have something fun to look forward to in 5.6. Something hilarious. What was it?

[plain river]

That's sick

[spice lark]

@civic jackal, forgive me for @ you but if you put the file in a txt document and upload that it is much cleaner. Here you go.

[plain river]

The special firing range that has skin silouhettes doesn't actually exist. It's a false reflection with nothing on the other side.

There's a random dot behind it in the distance though, may just be a lighting element

[dusk siren]

The second row seems clearest to me. I got (010011110)bin = (158)dec = (9E)hex = U+009E = "PRIVATE MESSAGE"...
I think it's pretty easy to just keep increasing the search space until we just get something that looks coincidental, though.

[fallen summit]

have we looked at the top of the end of the dissun commercial?

[fresh quiver]

I suspected it might be like hidden coordinates

[fallen summit]

hmm i could see that ya

[fresh quiver]

it would be the point with red rectangle. If you ignore the coordinate directly at the top of the others. It looks like its almost mirrored in the middle point.

[dusk siren]

Not as intriguing as all the seemingly random digits, but this is the second sponsor in a row with a prominently featured "2000." In VAIIYA's case it was the series number of their chip, and their promotional video also rendered it at the bottom of the screen in binary. When I converted the binary to morse, I got "OMENS."

I worry some of this stuff is just cool lore and not helpful EE-wise, but just like I came up with an interpretation of "OMENS" to fit VAIIYA, perhaps there is a double interpretation that also suits DISSUN (whether a different interpretation of "OMENS" or of the original "2000")

Anyway, thx to that translation, it seems like the number of 2000 series or editions is starting to pile up?

(ok, we have two)

[dusk siren]

I haven't seen how you deciphered these coordinates from the image yet, but back in my serious rabbit hole days, I decided that many of the 20 possible locations you could map have strong connections to major oil and gas deposits.

Pretty sure that Kara Sea area is known for them, for instance.

[fresh quiver]

Kara is only at 4 of the 5 coordinates. so this is still something unkown if connected

[dusk siren]

Yeah, but were you saying it's up near there?

[fresh quiver]

coordinates are usually written in NE. Everything else is mostly marked when not using N/E

[dusk siren]

Maybe better... how did you extract those specific coordinates from the image

[fresh quiver]

just took the order of the numbers?

[dusk siren]

Okay, I think it's good we continue to have this "usually NE" convo because I need someone to look back at the code along the edges of that original image (the one with all the X's) and explain why it looks like it translates to a N coordinate and a W coordinate, then? Perhaps just a coincidence?

[fresh quiver]

its described there how they got to it?

[dusk siren]

my point was it is W not E

why does everyone insist on N/E?

I'm sure someone will eventually explain it to me

But if we have in the image itself something that points to a westerly coordinate, but most positive coordinates refer to easterly coordinates, then why wouldn't we start thinking about arbitrarily applying those decimal coordinates in both N and S directions and both E and W directions (this was my original thinking)

[fresh quiver]

but I apparently did a mistake. with the translation of the coordinates. Had a brain lag at work apparently. BUT its "only" 340km difference. still in KaraSea

[dusk siren]

As for why you might get a different point not quite at the "Kara Sea" coordinates on that we've had, one interpretation might be that when DISSUN says "Production N/O" followed by coordinates perhaps it corresponds to a specific offshore oil and gas production platform (although I don't know what the one would have to do with the number of a "DISSUN video production")

Also... I guess I've just been assuming N/O = Number (No. = numero) but I guess there's no good reason to assume that

[fresh quiver]

we have. just in case.

But L3 has not said anything about the NW so far.

The clue your talking about was in Tier 1B of Level2.

[dusk siren]

that's very helpful context. much appreciated

was that clue in Tier 1B of Level 2 ever used in the course of Level 2?

If not, one of the questions I've had in the back of my mind is whether clues are not confined to specific levels in space or time.

Example: I'm still laboring under the assumption that there is a Level 3 clue just sitting in the Las Vegas map based on that twitch clip of Rob flying over the map. Las Vegas debuted all the way back in S1. Unless Rob changed the Las Vegas map in some significant way as of the most recent seasons, then in theory, there was something about Level 3 we could have noticed long before.

So... long story short: if we've never used that coordinate formatting clue before, this opportunity in Level 3 might finally be the time.

Anyway, greatly appreciate everyone's patience!!! ❤️

[fresh quiver]

my bad. it was not T1B....
It was the image we got after T3....

Thats now absolutely my fault.
But Please. next time dont only send a screenshot but also the Source

I searched Lulz Vault for it and it spit me out the wrong image when searched for 14xx

[dusk siren]

sure... no problem

mb

[fresh quiver]

I just couldnt complete figure out where you took the screenshot from. was also my fault too.

[dusk siren]

nah... i was being lazy... the wiki loads really slowly for me so I'm always looking for an excuse to not load it up. honestly my bad
(We are all trying to get serious work done in the most efficient way, here! It's the least I couldve done! 🙂 )

[eternal violet]

well if we didnt notice anything after rob said there is a password hiding in Las Vegas then theres no chance we could have notice it before lol

[fresh quiver]

ahhh. it was the wiki. damn it 😂 it looks almost identical to the vault.

I mean... when just seeing this screenshot? Both could be from the same Website

[dusk siren]

Your advice is seriously good in general. Good reminder for us, imho

[fresh quiver]

did rhb now get everytime pinged when we forward that? xD

[errant imp]

wait which drawing? the one rock made?

[fresh quiver]

yes

[sharp flame]

[errant imp]

amazing

work of art

[errant imp]

next EE on my to do list

[burnt sun]

ospuze is pee

[plain river]

It's almost as bad

[earnest juniper]

bottom left of the dissun vid there are some characters and a logo i personally havent seen yet. the characters look like they could be Japanese or Chinese to me. thought it would good to share

[worn rivet]

I WANT THAT STICKER!!!😭😭

Make it one of the finals server stickers @rob

[fresh quiver]

I see what you did there 😂
I can see a slight tease to the Dissun video today.

FUEL. FIRE. CAT.

replace the last T with a R.

FUEL. FIRE. CAR.

[slim harbor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1i7mjb1/new_dissun_trailer_seems_really_familiar_to/

[pure loom]

interesting reflection here

[snow walrus]

Octagon right there

[fresh quiver]

regarding this.

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/HelplessBelovedNigiriPupper-xyIvCFV_LYrweOpu

But i can't make out what rob exactly says

[sudden urchin]

I dont keep up with this channel but has anyone else noticed this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295901291184263171/1331743805149548587/z.mp4?ex=6792ba91&is=67916911&hm=2a5c6af9514fdc659f1da122fd8dc466fa8babafb4266d334220309414cb486c&

[fresh quiver]

what do we see here? the clip is not even 2 seconds long

[pure loom]

Have we seen these numbers associated with Dissun previously?

[fresh quiver]

Or i might be blind

[sudden urchin]

Z

Take a close look at the path and the fallen leaf pattern

[fresh quiver]

ah. yeah. with just one second video its barely to see. Especially with not explaining and just naming it "Z".

But its fine. I gotcha.

[sudden urchin]

I am not an easter egg hunter at all, I just wanted to share this in the case nobody saw it yet

[noble root]

RockhoundBlack im a big fan

[pure loom]

OK... I have a wild theory about a few things in the Dissun video, which could go beyond lore, and potentially point to a future map location. It is kinda wild, but I want to put it out there in case it's correct.

The character saying "we are glad to do the dirty work" I think might be a reference to the AC/DC song 'Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Deeds_Done_Dirt_Cheap_(song)) from the album of the same name, released in 1976. AC/DC are an Australian band.

I also think the car could be a reference to Mad Max's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_(film)) 1972 HQ Monaro - the Pursuit Special https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_Special

The overall red theme, as well as fitting with Dissun's colour profile, could also refer to the Australian red iron oxide soils, as could the very flat landscape with low hills in the distance, and a refinery would also fit ok with that - there are a few plants like those in the Australian outback.

So, I think it could be a hint to an Australian map.

[earnest juniper]

"uhhhhhh, yeah......i think i do" is what im hearing

[snow walrus]

Cactus closer look @white kindle

[earnest juniper]

now that you bring this up, and having just recently watched these movies, i see this link big time. even with the dissun gear drop in the store too, very mad max styled

[snow walrus]

Mad Max was one of my guesses too

[gloomy anvil]

What if "See The Signs" (STS) should be taken literally? As in, the various in-game signs?

[pure loom]

compare the location of the silver domes on Max's jacket

[fresh quiver]

aaand we have a project for the next days. Map every sign on the maps 🤣

[earnest juniper]

yesssssssssss, the leather pants as well

[alpine junco]

red moon fortune

[earnest juniper]

💯

[pure loom]

Also, now I think about it, Midas came to New Zealand, which could have been an extension to a trip to Australia for photogrammetry.

[gloomy anvil]

woah

[empty heron]

Not to harp on old news. But have we tested the reshaper compass reproduction yet?

With monkey island having been so specifically referenced it feels really important to follow up on.

Plus an Easter egg room could have no end of clues.

I can't go test the recreation alone or I just would.

[earnest juniper]

theres also the connection to New Zealand with the fantail graffitis

[dusk siren]

Endorsed... "We're glad to do the dirty work" is a very specific and curious line. Certainly likely to mean something... and not just the production of "dirty" fuels

[fresh quiver]

yes absolutely. But the fantails were added due to another reason. (does not mean your saying is wrong)

Midas and his partner got engaged during the development of kyoto in NZ. And they both fell in love with this bird. Thats why he added it.
(Also it was his first ever EE!)

[dusk siren]

btw - I haven't earned the right yet to throw my weight around, but a thought for the group to consider:

• We have threads for specific topics, but I wonder if it would help to have threads/channels (honestly, I don't know how discord works) for specific groups of contributors, as well.
• The thinking is that maybe some of our progress is stunted by the mass of material we all post individually
• It's hard to look into everything and so good ideas might be falling by the wayside
• The issue is one person's idea is more likely a random association, even bordering on yet another "rabbit hole" (I'm guilty as charged)
• But if even two or better three people collaborated on an idea, the likelihood it's actually something good goes up and, in turn, the probability it is worth everyone's time to look into

I'm not looking for a team (most of us probably aren't), but some people have been here a long time

and maybe have essentially formed friendships or high mutual reputations with each other

just a thought. really not trying to drive the discussion or program, honest

[dusk siren]

whoa...

[crisp eagle]

I believe most jackets with that style have those. They are buttons to hold the lapels down

[pure loom]

yeah, true

[fresh quiver]

Its a idea. but IMO would not recommend it. (atleast for myself)
With all the people its like a big brainstorming with throwing things around until something sticks. More people does not change this procedure.
If you would split this up in small groups. we probably would even make less/slower progress.
And yes. Some things just got stuck and were found correct because we interacted rabbithole to rabbithole to rabbithole. Even if that was not the attend.
We always need to spin ideas further.

But to be air you can be happy that its "only" about 600-900 messages a day. and about half of them in Off topic 😄
We had times with about 3k messages a day. That was time where we started a lot of threads. Just to outsource some things. With 600-900 messages a day. Its still something easy to follow. When we had 3k it was not possible and 80% of it was repeated of things that were already found. Thats why we outsourced it to this time.

If I missed one of your questions to answer feel free to tell me 😄

[crisp eagle]

I do get a Mad Max feel though and see it as a nod big time. That was the first thing I thought of when seeing that ad today too.

[fresh quiver]

ye. they are apparently called "Brando" style jackets

[proud minnow]

hehe yes… ._.

[fresh quiver]

I should stop summon people. Either its you or CNS I always summon 😅😂

[crisp eagle]

Still no orang car EE

That was close though

[worn rivet]

Rob

Its 00:23

I need to sleep

But i need to keep up

What does one do in this situation

[worn rivet]

Black cat EE

[earnest juniper]

i apologize for the misplaced post but i cant post in the appropriate channel.

[fresh quiver]

now you can 😄

[earnest juniper]

i believe my buddy found a new graffiti

[fresh quiver]

its a great find due to the hidden nature of it 😄
But iirc we already know of it

[crisp eagle]

Congrats! Welcome to threads and headaches!

[fresh quiver]

I would love to show you. But we messed up and put the wrong image links in the map 😅

Skyway stadium? Construction Site?

here?

[worn rivet]

Guy's is rob reading everything rn or did he just drop by to say thank u

[crisp eagle]

He usually reads a lot of it. I doubt all. But he was just responding to Sam I believe because he caught a spoiler he made

[fresh quiver]

nvm. my fault. Monaco Construction? 😄

[earnest juniper]

i see its been found

[fresh quiver]

@earnest juniper you can also found a graffiti with "S LIES" in the same construction site

[worn rivet]

I'm curious to see what will be eye'd

[earnest juniper]

yes ive seen that before

[fresh quiver]

https://coolstuffgoeshere.github.io

check out the map. we normally map things like these if we found some (and someone pushes the update onto the github)

[worn rivet]

If i get eyed ill get a message no matter how old it is correct?

[pure loom]

Discord added these reaction notifications recently, right? I just noticed them not so long ago. I can try reacting to one of your oldest messages now if you like?

@worn rivet let me know if you got the notification of my flamingo reaction on your oldest message

[worn rivet]

I did

Thank u

[pure loom]

cool

[fresh quiver]

Apparently 3 months ago it was still or still is a experimental Feature.
so yeah. not that long in. But we might catch eyes earlier now then the script

[earnest juniper]

wow that map is VERY impressive. props to who ever has put it together. insane work 💪

[fresh quiver]

I think @unborn pilot and @dull marsh are maintaining it?

[snow walrus]

I smell something more on this area

[fresh quiver]

was that the vaiiya or dissun one?

[fresh quiver]

you think it might could be more like the Y and A? not only A?
would atleast be my guess because of the second "orb"

[snow walrus]

I didnt analyze Y completely

[spice lark]

I see numbers in the A

[snow walrus]

I altered the image those may be artifacts but it's sus to me. I see vertical signs/marks

[fresh quiver]

forgot about the 4x 0 again

[snow walrus]

Looks like vaiiya letters masked on a space image

[fresh quiver]

dont know if it is good seeable. but except from the lines top - bottom. i kind of see diagonal ones. but barely visiible

[snow walrus]

I cant see:(

[spice lark]

circled is where the numbers are at in your altered image. Can clearly see a 0

[fresh quiver]

you need to try to look at the vertical lines closely and slow.

[snow walrus]

I think that can be visible on original too

0 or 9

[fresh quiver]

5?

[snow walrus]

I think these pixels are just noise

[static canopy]

dude the fuel they pumped into the car looks like so cool

i wonder what its made of

[snow walrus]

From original

[snow walrus]

RedStream

[snow walrus]

Could be even .9

[dull marsh]

I just processed that the fact that we have elliptical flares means the pictures were taken with an anamorphic lens

We've had elliptical flares on most Level 3 pictures thus far

[alpine junco]

red moon on vegas

[fresh quiver]

thats not even a bad idea

[pure loom]

This is an interesting alternative to the standard Blood Moon, and also mentions the Metonic Cycle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonic_cycle) which I'm pretty sure has come up before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon#Harvest_and_hunter's_moons

[snow walrus]

New Lunar Year

[fresh quiver]

it did.

[alpine junco]

also the update was released on a half moon

[untold coyote]

not sure if this is the right place, but y'all seen the current credits? peak.

[earnest juniper]

"every byte counts" is something i caught, the i's have very large spaces between them but the word "byte" did not. also "s lives forever" maybe lies? this was after the first "end scroll text" part, there were some motivional words and amougnst them i caught that. i also saw that one of the E's in the word "true" was backwards. i hadnt noticed till it was towards the end of the scroll, but looked like this " TRU3"

[untold coyote]

also the punctuation was all like
WORDS.!

[earnest juniper]

i did notice that as well, some had more ! marks too. im pretty sure the whole thing is a huge loop, it throws you off by saying this is the end a few times, but i watched till it started from the beginning again with the pixel comment.

[jovial lark]

i cant type in practice range rose however with the eternal fires have you tried putting a rose into 5 of the fires that are in the park?

[proven steeple]

just got a video from a month ago on my youtube recommended called "SYShorizon hidden room?" by CSWSYOLO

looks like theres maybe an interaction with glitching walls and reflections if anyone else wnats to look into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXpMRW9BA4M

[crisp eagle]

Thanks! He’s actually a Hunter that’s currently working on trying to find that hidden room in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1315046366417915994

[shy oracle]

Hey that's me!

I have no idea why that video blew up lol

glad to bring more awareness!

[proven steeple]

thats crazy lol

i just saw it while scrolling lol

[shy oracle]

That's awesome to know my videos showed up lol

[brittle estuary]

i dont really know if this can help the tfee but.. im in a club where stiggson and rob are and well

yeah

idk that much about the tfee but prolly psod means purple screen of death

[white kindle]

He's referring to Patrick Söderlund.. who also joined my Mog club today.

[dull marsh]

Yeah PSOD is Patrick's username, there's also a PSOD graffiti on Vegas

[brittle estuary]

ohhhhh thx

[rigid sandal]

a cosmetic from the new costume is called so

[fresh quiver]

ye. got that already told.

[rigid sandal]

was it any use?

of any use*

[pure loom]

I don't think so

[empty heron]

HELLO IVE BEEN DOING DEMO WORK

Is this new?

[dull marsh]

This was found during the beta 😄

[empty heron]

Welp, back to it

And this?

[mint rock]

umm has anyone put the rose on the parkbench into the nearby bin yet?

the bin disappears with a congratulatory effect

oh ok

[white kindle]

It's like you're not even there to be a Moglet..

[white kindle]

Didn't Rob say yesterday that there's also a reference to PSOD on a gun or something?

[hearty meteor]

pink screen of death

[white kindle]

Patrick Söderlund.. Also.. why not PURPLE screen of death..

[solar glade]

and PSODRACING brand

[mossy wedge]

I thought the same, as purple and glitches/errors/hacks are the main themes for SysHor

[dull marsh]

So I've been thinking for a little bit that Level 3 could be related to KLK
First I believe that xyrr1x2 is a ciphered version of carroll (Lewis):

• We have /burrw and empty set symbol which seems to indicate that we might need to omit the letter o
• Then each group of 2 letters might match the word

• xy might lead to z for Ca (Calcium), being 20 (this is the one I'm the least sure about)
• rr is rr...
• 1x2 = 1 times 2 = 11 = ll

Interestingly, Carroll without the o is Carrll, which is just Carl with double r and l

That is when I remembered KLK, being Karl-Linus Kaninus
There are multiple reasons as to why it is probably significant:

• KLK is the name of the White Rabbit doodle that was draw by Dusty on Rob's birthday card

• KLK is actually the name of the white rabbit who's Rob "Karl-Robert" is partly named after
• I guessed the first K stood for Karl and Rob 👀'd that in EE off-topic, so it should mean that KLK is either Lore or EE, but in any case it's significant #1201288968562552863 message

After making that connection, I noticed a couple of other things:

• The STS-88 Day 10 Elvis song is Hound Dog, dogs a canines which could match Kaninus
• Rob has confirmed that Linnaeus is related to the hunt #easter-eggs message

Now onto the DISSUN image clue 0075 00057 5625 0007708928

• 75 is ASCII for K and 57 for 9, aka K9 = Canine

• 5625 = 75x75 or K2 (square)

• On the K2 mountain page, it is mentioned that André Weil named the K3 surfaces after the beauty of this mountain

• We have numbers 7, 5 and 3 which could converge to 75 = K and 3

• K3 and square could land back on K9

[dull marsh]

Forgot to mention that K2 is the name of the second tallest mountain in the world, which is also much more dangerous to climb than the Everest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2

And the K2 is located in the Karakoram mountain range, could be a connection to Kara 🤔

[cold heart]

🧘‍♂️🕯️

[white kindle]

[dull marsh]

Now did they do anything to Rob? 👀

[crisp eagle]

What all Rob statues do we have again?

[dull marsh]

That's not Rob, just the one on SYS$Horizon

[crisp eagle]

I knew that one wasn’t him, but didn’t know if we had more than the SYS Rob. Thanks

[velvet narwhal]

How many robs do we have in the game in general?
I can remember the drawing of him on the whiteboard.

[cold heart]

SYS$HORIZON unfortunately doesnt have the event stuff 🥲

[dull marsh]

True

[velvet narwhal]

Is robatama in the game?

[gloomy anvil]

our answer: no

Rob's answer: of course

[crisp eagle]

I wasn’t involved yet at season 2 launch. Did Rob tell us that he’s that statue? I always wondered how we knew it’s Rob, but never had the guts to ask.

Off-Topic after today has made me stronger

[velvet narwhal]

How do you know what rob would say?
UNLESS YOU ARE ROB!!!!

I GOT YOU. You can no longer hide RAID

[gloomy anvil]

[dull marsh]

It all began on a dark summer night #1201288968562552863 message

[fresh quiver]

now robs carrl rupert ru-ru-rupertius would make more sense for me.
If that might have all the time been the nod.

[crisp eagle]

Rookie question: who even is that? I could never find anyone with that name

[velvet narwhal]

Robs full name is Karl-Robert Runesson #1201288968562552863 message

Karl-Robert Runesson… but NO ONE calls me that… except my big sister (and Dusty) when she is REALLY mad at me… my parents called me Robban…

Rupertius could be connected to this... which I didn't even know of up until now
#easter-eggs message

Like my mom always used to say "Rupertius operatur in viis arcanus"...

[crisp eagle]

Thanks! Ok I’m learning a lot today. Noice! I’ll be caught up one day 🫡

[velvet narwhal]

Well... it might take a while if not even I am caught up and still learning of new things 😭

[crisp eagle]

Yea true. There’s so much info to remember and keep track of

[velvet narwhal]

Is anyone able to discern the numbers beneath the 404? It's on the back of the Dissun gas mask Upper Body.

We have this from another skin but I'm not sure if they are the same number

[fresh quiver]

good reminder I just found.

You put the quote of Guybrush there. I already forgot.

we don't need to open our eyes to look for a cartographer. are we?

[velvet narwhal]

oh you can see it better on the pants. (even though it's smaller)
Looks like the same number from the other skin :(

[analog pumice]

Hey guys, I'm new here so sorry if this is a redundant topic. I've just had an unusual occurence on the Fortune Stadium map - after placing a barricade in the Holtow building, it appeared with a large "1" sticker on it. It could be just a texutre error but maybe somehow it's EE related?

https://imgur.com/a/jwO8xfb

[velvet narwhal]

This is the description of the dissun boots. Sounds pretty dystopian

[velvet narwhal]

Interesting. Looks like a spray. But I don't think we have one that looks like this

[analog pumice]

it definitely wasn't placed by a player, it appeared as the barricade was spawning in

Here's a clip (sorry for the imgur link, it seems that I can't post images / videos on this channel)
https://imgur.com/a/gQTuSsZ

[velvet narwhal]

No problem. You have to level up a bit to be able to post them

[cold heart]

i really dont remember seeing this spray before ngl... im looking now n cant see it

[velvet narwhal]

it could be a decal that a dev mistakenly placed.
But it does look interesting

it looks like a white version of the floor numbers

[cold heart]

it does looks like a spray though - if you spray a barricade it (afaik) stays, even if you redeploy it

[velvet narwhal]

nope. the spray got destroyed

[analog pumice]

I've just checked, getting the "spray" in that spot is replicable

[earnest juniper]

makes me think there could be other spots in a numerical order. maybe to open something or make it appear?

[cold heart]

its a map decal

same thing on goo

[earnest juniper]

where is it getting the decal from?

[cold heart]

rn im assuming, like Nova said, its a mis-placed decal by the developers... so rather than being on the wall (like the 4 behind it), its not on anything

until you put something there

@analog pumice awesome find! ❤️

[earnest juniper]

oh i didnt see the 4 back there!

[fresh quiver]

might be easy to find out if it was misplaced. If we send it into our Bug Report Thread... Midas might tell us if it was mis-placed

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah I also think its a "STIIIGSOOON" moment, but I'm still trying to find a second one right now

[velvet narwhal]

Would be a good idea

[unreal jetty]

Any passwords found?

[fresh quiver]

guess...

[unreal jetty]

No🤣

[queen relic]

Follow Rob on Twitch friends

[snow walrus]

not any that I know but on ENGIMO section there is a track and field thing

[velvet narwhal]

there was a short event for the olympics where you got a few skins

[snow walrus]

and a twitch drop

when the olympics was held

[hard forge]

paris

[snow walrus]

We didn't find any EE relation afaik

[earnest juniper]

whats his twitch name

[velvet narwhal]

https://www.twitch.tv/rob_embark

[alpine junco]

i am rob's 700th follower

[queen relic]

I was his 400th

only 300 more to go tho!

[keen ravine]

Are you looking after that wild cat? 🐈

[velvet narwhal]

wtf is that sticker name

[unreal jetty]

I want the dissun cat sticker

[opal pond]

Ohh 704 we're getting close

[snow walrus]

Hello we are doing a small research, if you consider yourself as an EE Hunter we kindly want you to fill this 1 question form 🙂

Edit: No need to sign-in
https://forms.gle/QF1EBSBWfU49gXU9A

[unreal jetty]

Bruh no way

Lmao ur good

Okok my b he was hunter tho

[snow walrus]

It's okay i wanted to add that just to filter trollings. But also thought that would be the easiest question as can be

[fresh quiver]

Not if you only were once or 2 on the L3 website. And not have remembered the password without looking for it

[unreal jetty]

The question should have been what was the lvl 2 password haha

[fresh quiver]

Which one?

[unreal jetty]

The final

[fresh quiver]

Level 2 Tier 3? 0v0aurum

[unreal jetty]

No the dolphinrabbitmonke

[snow walrus]

New hunters may not know those

[unreal jetty]

Exactly lol

It was a joke tho

[crisp eagle]

"I'm not an EE Hunter"
-Marshall

[snow walrus]

Come on dont be shy 😁

[dusk siren]

Sry if alrdy posted (nthng in search)...

• Rob Post: FUEL. FIRE. CAT.
• DISSUN Video Title: FUEL. FIRE. POWER.
  Check out Cat Power?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Power

[pulsar fiber]

where did you find this billboard??

[snow walrus]

Bernal

[pulsar fiber]

thank you! gonna take a crack at it

[crisp eagle]

what is?

[snow walrus]

#easter-eggs message

[crisp eagle]

wow that one answer on there haha

[hard current]

make it anonymous

[snow walrus]

It is?

[hard current]

it said I had to sign in to fill it out

[snow walrus]

Oh? I thought i closed that

[dusk siren]

sry if the dissun video got its own thread but smthng funky with the lettering on the tire.
it's normal on the rear right tire on a previous shot.
at minimum is the "ISS" in "DISSUN" now transformed into a "122"?
possibly just a random artifact of the production process, ofc

[snow walrus]

Okay done

[hard current]

there we go;)

[keen ravine]

it doesnt work :c

[dusk siren]

If it's meant to be read vertically as "SCNN"... the most salient thing wikipedia turned up, i think, was an article on "cellular neural networks," including mention of an "SCNN 2000" emulation software

[dusk siren]

holy shamoley, this is good!
Didn't rob say the deciphered code would, straight-up, be one of the Level 3 passwords?
maybe worth entering your top candidates at this point (carroll, carrll, Karl-Linus Kaninus...), or is the standard protocol to wait for Rob to give the "eyes"?

[dull marsh]

I've tried a few which didn't work (obviously), but no we should try stuff even without eyes

If it's super close to a password there is a good chance Rob wouldn't eye it imo

[dusk siren]

great stuff... it jumps out once you point it out... i'm trying to nail down exactly each step, mainly the first one (which you said you thought was the weakest link)

Is your best guess at this point that the "z" points to atomic number and if you give the "o" from carroll to the z, you get "zo" = "20" -> z = 20 -> Ca?

anyway... bravissimo!

[glass portal]

any leads in the hidden room in sh?

[dusk siren]

not a connection to ludonope's xyrr1x2 idea, just something I was looking at and putting here in case we don't already have the "kar" = "stone, hard" connection.

[glass portal]

you can

[glass portal]

when sys horizon came out i tried to get inseide to see the reflections, its empty inside and it's just a cube map, however its been a long time and maybe they changed something

although with the dolphin ee arounf that area they should've noticed something

so i dont think is relevant that sphere

[dusk siren]

Even more of a stretch than the z = 20 idea, but I was just contemplating the possibility that you could to "Ca" from "xy" via "Cartesian coordinates" or "coordinate axes" somehow

[earnest juniper]

has anyone put the "scotty&june" building sign and logo in the wiki yet? just curious, was looking earlier and didnt see

[hard current]

I wonder how Rob is doing

miss that guy.. KLK… RSR

[crisp eagle]

Yea it's still the same. IMO I don't think the hidden room would be there, being so close to another EE like you mentioned.

[glass portal]

I dont think it is like in the "outsides" areas, since they may be prone to noclip camera shenanigans over the yeats, it must be beneath the playable area, where they usually store things. Nor I think is a enter-able area either. For what I think, maybe there's a warp or tp involved, couse modifying the terrain is maybe imposible in a map maker perspective

I've seen clips of people ignoring the death barrier at skyward stadium due to glitches so it's not a sm64 where the out of bound area is a instakill if you enter, so posibilities are endless

[crisp eagle]

wait a minute. that's a Caesar shift

[hard current]

yeahhh technically so is STS

[crisp eagle]

Luckily though I have no idea what to do with that information haha my head just stays hurting

[pulsar fiber]

same. me earlier trying to math easter eggs and finding nothing.

[dull marsh]

Can investigate that in the rose thread I'd say 🤔

Might not be related but we have too many threads already 😄

[dull marsh]

I'm... not sure what you mean 😄

Oh I see, yeah that kind of stuff could be clues if we can find strong connections

[worn rivet]

🇮 🕯️ 🇹
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

Give us the picture😩

[fading vigil]

Hi, I’m a new guy in EE hunt, but what I found about roses:
nitrogen makes roses to bloom fast, but potassium helps to develop roots better. Will try today to search, but maybe there are some flower pot to use (like a try to grow those roses) or some flower pot without a plant to use
Also, maybe there are some fight dummies with “woman” body and you can “use” them and that’s why Rob said that roses are carriable but not for the main ee

[fading vigil]

Face hidden at bottom right side, can be seen with contrast/exposure

[hard forge]

ooo

[fading vigil]

https://ibb.co/Rp47mzJ
here the screenshot

[graceful cosmos]

Wait is there a second larger face directly to the left of that? Skewed with the ground like it's a giant reflection in water.

[hard forge]

image

[dull marsh]

I'm not seeing it 🤔

[hard forge]

i don't see it

[dull marsh]

Hmm could be, I see what you mean, but I think it's pareidolia

[hard forge]

wondering if that is dante

[gloomy pecan]

Yep, this is scary af

[fresh quiver]

@raven zenith welcome back to the fun

[gloomy pecan]

Maybe like this it looks more clearer

[snow walrus]

That face 100% looks familiar to me but idk the name ):

[gloomy pecan]

AH DANG IT

Sorry guys

I just saw the thread

[alpine junco]

that one dude from medieval times

[rapid estuary]

Dante Aligheri?

[hard forge]

thats what i said

[velvet narwhal]

JO WHAT? Did they post something?

[hard forge]

check thread

[worn rivet]

I mean it ain't ISEUL-T but I summoned it

Green pixels

[fresh quiver]

Yes. Metadata

[velvet narwhal]

I may be blind. Could you circle them?

[velvet narwhal]

Either you are colorblind... or I am.
I can see pixels there but they look red... (nvmd I can see the green after zooming in)

[empty plaza]

Looks like a philosopher of some kind

[snow walrus]

Descartes?

Nah

[velvet narwhal]

Also had that thought but doesn't really fit

[alpine junco]

This seems like it’s from a portrait

[errant imp]

100%

maybe a bit clearer?

[alpine junco]

Nvm wrong nose and chin

[errant imp]

its just lord farquaad okay

[hard forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-lord-farquaad-smug-walk-gif-4571303

[atomic rock]

Woah it’s markiplier

[fading vigil]

Can it be a Newton?

Nah.. not him, but newton is related to trinity college in Cambridge

[rancid rapids]

From what i can get from the portrait
possibly 1600's renaissance due to style, possible use of chiaroscuro with one half of the face black/hidden + severe face and lack of visible background on the portrait
Getting vibes of artist Holbein but doesn't exactly match
Clean shaven, strong jaw, possible shoulder length hair + black hat, somewhat old/wrinkles so possibly 40/50 years old
more closely aligned with a noble/rich man, possible scientist, or maybe miltary ? with some white collar/cape thingy

[fresh quiver]

And out of nowhere dunley appears and works with us that was not on my list for today 😄

[velvet narwhal]

time to look at every single link in here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Renaissance_figures

[fresh quiver]

Can’t we just write a script which just downloads every image of the links? Then we just need to look at the images 😄

[rancid rapids]

i swear i saw that dude somewhere so now im intrigued

[fresh quiver]

all us swear rn that we saw him 😂

but none of us can remember

[rancid rapids]

giving me tintoretto / rubens / rembrandts vibes

[fresh quiver]

its not one of the statues ingame or? just asuspicion. but probably not

[alpine whale]

i love looking at this chat after seeing a new #official-art drop

[fresh quiver]

oh you then should also look at #1332285869574590515

we might get cns back hehe. (just a lore thing)

[alpine whale]

is CNS back?

[fresh quiver]

META-DATA of the new image:

TextLayerText    FROM EMBARK WI¤C”=[\N¤)S.!```

so probably yes 😄

[alpine whale]

we aint even halfway though the season yet, im excited

[crisp eagle]

Actually my (probably lying) brain sees a bust of that now that you say it.

[fresh quiver]

he can't be that familiar to all of us. Even @rancid rapids thnigs he remembers the guy.

[snow walrus]

maybe it's because giving renaissance vibes to all of us

[crisp eagle]

It does also sound like Dunlewey knows art. I know nothing of art or history haha and I know I’ve seen this. It’s so odd having all of us feel that same spark in the back of our minds.

[hasty anvil]

Looks like lord farquaad to me…

[dull marsh]

Lord Farquaad HD

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

[hasty anvil]

Great minds

[fresh quiver]

EE hivemind as its best again

[hard forge]

this is what I could get .

[dusk siren]

Maybe the "xy" translation in xyrr1x2 -> "carrll" has been confirmed, but if it is still a bit arbitrary, I'll throw out a less likely possibility.

• If "xy" is pointing to "z," then z = 26 might point to "Fe" rather than "Ca" and "ferrll" rather than "carrll"
• Obv we like "Carroll" vastly more, but we did have at least one or two Will Ferrell clues ("S. Lies"; "If you ain't first, you're last.")
• Full disclosure: I had a Will Ferrell meltdown in 'Rabbit Holes' a while back, so I'm prob not unbiased here
• Some other random coincidences:
  • possible double meanings of "ferrll": "iron railroad lines", "feral", "for real"
  • "xy" is "fe" if reflected across the letter "b" 🤷 : x -> f, y -> e
• Biggest potential implication:
  • Presence of Lewis Carroll and Will Ferrell ("carrll" and "ferrll") are perhaps pointing at a larger collection of related "xyrrll" clues.
  • "Ca" and "Fe" are elements, but so are other elements that would create a meaningful "xyrrll" (e.g., "Krrll").
  • If the "xy-" prefixes are all elements, are there other connections as well? ("Less Nitrogen, more Potassium and Phosphorus" -> "Krrll"? and "Prrll"?)

TL;DR: Perhaps "xy-" is pointing to "z" but that is merely pointing to the set of elements more broadly.

[hard current]

can someone link me to the new thread?

[dusk siren]

* In fact, when Rob (Runesson) says, "enter the code xyrr1x2..." perhaps he is saying for more than 1 password. This goes all the way back to Ludenope(?)'s observation that "SZdeF" could translate to "PWabC"... It would be weird to have all 9 passwords in Level 3 be "xyrrll"-related passwords, but maybe not as weird if it was limited to 3 passwords across one of the tiers in Level 3 (e.g., the C tier) .

[fresh quiver]

#1332285869574590515

[crisp eagle]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332285869574590515

[hard current]

thanks guys

[crisp eagle]

Lol

[fading vigil]

Those green pixel pattern looks alike pins of coordinates on map

[hard current]

if that new wallpaper is a picture of the meatspace in the finals, and THATs what DISSUN is doing to the planet... that sucks

[unkempt crypt]

It looks like a painting of an old nobleman.

Like old as in, from 17th/18th century and old in age of the person

[hard current]

I wish it was Nikola Tesla :/

[unkempt crypt]

Not this specifically

[velvet narwhal]

'ashes of tomorrow' sounds like they are doing exactly that (those are the boots of the gas mask skin)

[unkempt crypt]

But this age

[fresh quiver]

sadly also not neutron :c

[rugged breach]

The lighting on the face very characteristic of Rembrandt who was active around that period

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-cool-photos-sunglasses-cool-jimmy-walking-gif-24614437

[rugged breach]

Issue is Rembrandt is the portrait guy

[snow walrus]

out of topic rn but this is like an egg

[hard current]

could be a caravaggio and not a remembrandt

[unkempt crypt]

The contrast makes it harder, but its clearly an older man, with a very square face, and the style is very 17th century, I think you can even see a collar of sorts

[rugged breach]

Colourised it a bit, trying to snipe image search

Definiely a 3/4ths angle

[hard forge]

DAMN

[dull marsh]

Pretty darn good looking

I'm impressed by the result we're able to get from so little data 😄

[rugged breach]

It could also be a religious oil painting, kinda reminiscent of the style

[cold heart]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1i8ymg7/easter_egg_help_do_you_recognize_that_portrait/

https://tenor.com/view/upvote-give-this-man-reddit-gif-24364743

[fading vigil]

And how useless we feel ourselves while everybody familiar with man, but nobody can remember)

Also, happy that it was my ever first Easter egg find !)

[dull marsh]

Hehe it's a great find honestly

[hard current]

ls

[fresh quiver]

you have a linux terminal open?

[hard current]

LMFAO actually yes on my other monitor connected to my work laptop, forgot to switch over my keyboard

[fresh quiver]

I KNEW IT 🤣🤣🤣

a random lonely "ls" is just a giveaway for linux

[cold heart]

hot CRTs in my area

OOPS wrong channel

[dull marsh]

The number of times I start typing

WWWWWDWDWDDWDWDWDWWWWWWW
and then realize THE FINALS™️ window is not focused...

[gloomy anvil]

Rob yesterday: "so sad that they didn't find the thing yet, because now i need to push that again" #1292576119849095210 message

What from today's art could that be? I suspect the theme of the "first three" of something, like ABC, 123, I We Who.

[rancid rapids]

not a 100% match, but def reminded me of René Descartes by Frans Hals

this was the dude i was thinking about at least

[fresh quiver]

have the same suspicion.
second time we found I we who... (two three)"

DONT CLICK THAT LINK

@rancid rapids spammer / scammer is already banned now it seems? 😄

[distant bear]

Is there like a known scheme going on with the WT stop names? With the CNS reference in today's Dissun art that LOVE HURTS stop could mean something CNS related

From CNS with love and all that

[dull marsh]

Imma dump a little theory :3

[dull marsh]

I suspect LOVE HURTS will be for Valentines day ❤️

[distant bear]

Ah, word lol

[dull marsh]

Perhaps SR.! doesn't stand for Saint Rob, but for Sir Rob 🤔

[worn rivet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/clA0EfcCWO

[dull marsh]

So we haven't yet solved what the red moon is, and we are now getting A LOT of red moons on the current maps, so I dug a bit into it again

Red Moon is a video game released by Level 9 in 1985 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Moon_(video_game)

Level 9 also made Colossal Adventure

And they made a game called Lancelot in 1988, which basically tells a version of the Arthurian legend, and it has some interesting stuff: