easter-eggs

[queen rain]

Fuck

[turbid sorrel]

This just gave me chills:
https://www.twitch.tv/thefinals/clip/IcyHorribleSnailMau5-lHx6373_NzgQaD5I

[unreal jetty]

So the black night "satellite" is really just a thermal blanket for the shuttle that slipped from an astronauts hold while on a spacewalk

[dull marsh]

Yes, you should check Rockhound videos tho, we've found that a long time ago 😄

[low escarp]

ok i had a really dumb thought about the stage on vegas thing its really obvious
the stage is the centre of the map

[hard current]

was rob playing on twitch? I missed it

[fresh quiver]

he just is again

waters stream

[errant imp]

all them hunters in the chat lol

[unreal jetty]

How do you get the sponsor logo next to your names?

Ok I got it I wanted Holtow:(

[unreal jetty]

Yeah I just got done watching quite a few just now

[dusk veldt]

Did anyone catch anything?

[unreal jetty]

Nope nothing

At least from what I heard

[fresh quiver]

only this in regarding to morse ingame https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/ShyBigTomatoMoreCowbell-ZHC69H9wUFTSxqa6?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

but not sure which exact words he says. can be no, o, or a swallowed yo

[gloomy anvil]

To me it sounds unrelated to the question. Rob makes an "oh-" sound moments before we hear a grenade explosion as his HP takes a hit, like he was reacting to the grenade. But that's just my impression.

[unkempt dune]

or maybe... he was speaking in morse code 🤔

only E (short) and T (long) are possible if that were the case

[unreal jetty]

Rob just gave me clue

He said S33K

In waters chat

!!!

Though I have no idea what S33K means haha

[fresh quiver]

s33k = seek.

but did he only said seek?

[unreal jetty]

He only said S33K

WAIT

SZdeF

He gave another!!!

SZdeF is a clue Rob just gave me

WHERE TF IS EVERYONE AT

Then I asked him if it's a clue and he gave me 👀

SZdeF

[empty heron]

discovered today under the rotating platform

[unreal jetty]

@fresh quiver SZdeF

[pure loom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octagram

[unreal jetty]

@pure loom SZdeF

Rob gave me clue

[hard current]

SZdef and S33k ?

[unreal jetty]

Yessir!

[cold heart]

you can actually see this on the hanging-platform version of the map ❤️ but nice find regardless
.. pretty silly you can get under the rotating platform lol

[unreal jetty]

S33K and SZdeF

[empty heron]

Oh I thought the rotator was there regardless

[fresh quiver]

just the "def" would remind me of L2 DEF

[pure loom]

Just seeing that now. Interesting...

[empty heron]

Fits right into the rising sun motif

[unreal jetty]

Hey I was useful with my $30 android

[empty heron]

On both maps

[low escarp]

#1309265877056622613 message also irl

[pure loom]

I managed to capture the SZdeF one

[unreal jetty]

Yes! That's me

[low escarp]

#1309265877056622613 message

[unreal jetty]

He also said S33K earlier

Like right above that a little bit

[pure loom]

Presumably that's SEEK - but what is SZdeF?

[low escarp]

this the one?

heart seek heart
didnt rob mention that the "new" white rabbits are holding a heart

[unreal jetty]

Man I wish I knew

[fresh quiver]

oh btw was s33kingtreasure also in chat?

[stark saddle]

yes

Might not be anything but pasting it here just in case

[unreal jetty]

Not from what I saw in that interaction

But hey WE GOT A CLUE!!

2 of them!

[pure loom]

Yeah, good stuff!

[unreal jetty]

Man it was all coincidence haha I literally just joined and saw he used a sticker

[sharp flame]

Roses on Dustborn Sombrero

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive_performance_characteristics#SEEKTIME

[unreal jetty]

Now that I've done something productive I'm going to watch TV and let that clue marinate a bit

S33K SZdeF

[mossy wedge]

What does it look like? Why there is a small pile behind the contestant?
A swan? A logo of the game with some additions?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1329588374406828103/image.png?ex=678ae32b&is=678991ab&hm=1882065eea30ae015d73228c41a1412a8319143ac0ec43f632b7317a55cd8bfb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=517&height=350

[unreal jetty]

That is def the logo going up to the leg if you look at it upside down but idk what the rest is

[sharp flame]

The pile of coins which drop from every dead player. It's just a dead contestant!

[mossy wedge]

don't you wonder why this form looks like this? Why is it even there if it is not really needed in that moment? Why it takes a whole screen?

[crisp eagle]

it also has the octagram in the middle where that jump pad and rotating platform are

[mossy wedge]

also contestant moves so you can see that the circle pile is separated from the other part
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216038943175217193/1329590593915195526/image.png?ex=678ae53c&is=678993bc&hm=7bbac42167eef48541c5bb62158b126894b3e072ecf56345ced000bb86d9243f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[sharp flame]

yeah the shape is interesting

to me I first assumed it's just cause it's showing they won a fight..

but the head position is weird

[mossy wedge]

but isn't the current emote event related to frags at all? Really strange to see some piles of coins there if making a frag is not a mandatory
"This week, your team will be rewarded with some extra cash for showing off by emoting near a cashout that your team starts, steals, or completes! :partyglass: "

[sharp flame]

the dance floor appears after a steal, so this could show an enemy team defeated and cashout stolen

and the Contestant is dancing after the steal

[dull marsh]

Yeah I'm kinda confused by the current convo ngl

[dusk siren]

My initial thought was that it could be a name of a person or place "S[ ] Z[ ] de F[ ]"

Long shot as everything is, but if anyone knew how to use regular expressions to search a database for something like that, might be worth a shot.

So, yeah, as everyone knows, it's obviously San Zapato de Flores (a joke)

Pls don't be sent on a wild goose chase on my account, though. srsly

Separately ❤️ S33K ❤️... just makes me think of romance and one person (or rabbit) seeking another. Admittedly, paired with SZdeF, I wondered if it was something someone was seeking, the way Ponce de Leon was seeking the legendary fountain of youth (but prob only because I had Spanish names on my mind) EDIT: and Bernal, Mexico (and possibly San Diego/San Franciso, see 'rabbit holes')

Ah... so, s33kingtreasure was something once? Seeking treasure... Treasure of the Sierra Madre... and surely Conquistadors were all about seeking treasure (sadly)

[stoic cloak]

this area looks like a giant version of the jump pad hologram

https://imgur.com/a/RELW3Y8

[dusk siren]

Worth looking into sun symbology in Aztec culture? https://aztec.mythologyworldwide.com/the-symbolism-of-the-sun-in-aztec-culture/

Dissun is a sponsor during the Bernal season, fwiw

Pls delete if violating terms of service on IP rights, but some images of a stylized Huitzilopochtli are a bit like our season 5 key art character. Huitzilopochtli is the Aztec god of both sun and war.

[snow walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kotal-kotal-kahn-kahn-mortal-kombat-sun-gif-18812078

[dusk siren]

Brief tangent... I just noticed the little riot shield dudes on this battle pass skin. lol

[snow walrus]

"<3" -> ascii values are 60 and 51 which in total 111

[dusk siren]

Is this in reference to ❤️ S33K ❤️ ? You're saying ❤️ S33K ❤️ might be something like 111533(K)111? Since K is the 11th(?) letter of the alphabet, maybe even 11153311111?

[sly gale]

Yo! Never really followed the whole Easter egg stuff outside of the rockhound black YT vids, but is there a place I can find all the latest up to date info? Not great with Discord so I’m sure it’s right in front of me some where lol. But I found a few coincidences and I’m trying to see if any of you have covered it already. Thanks🫡

[crisp eagle]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Easter_Eggs here’s the wiki to the Easter eggs specifically 🫡 welcome soldier

[dusk siren]

Awesome! I'ma let the EE hunting veterans answer mostly, but I use the search function ("in:easter-eggs" for example) when I want to see if an idea has been covered before.

[sly gale]

Thank u goat appreciate it!

[crisp eagle]

Any other questions just ask. Everyone is really nice and helpful

[sly gale]

Oh that’s a good idea ty

[dusk siren]

it's not foolproof, unfortunately... I'm not too good with discord either... still learning some tricks

[sly gale]

I’ve had it for years and I’m still like an 80 year old trying to open internet explorer somehow😭

[crisp eagle]

The level 3 page was just updated I believe by Raid. That’s our current level. There are also different “types” of Easter eggs.

[sly gale]

I’m about to fall deep into a rabbit hole aren’t I?😭 this is crazy and amazing

[proud minnow]

This is a good guide, who wrote that.?!

[sharp flame]

👋👀

[dull marsh]

Hi Rob

[hard forge]

Hi ROB

[sweet thistle]

[dusk siren]

I could swear you were typing something else though... no?

[dull marsh]

IT WORKED!!!!

[proud minnow]

Hi…!

[snow walrus]

He is everywhere that's right

[sharp flame]

missed you.!!!

[proud minnow]

Just reading up what been happening since last week… ._.

I see more clues are needed… hehe… ._.

[snow walrus]

Hope there is something eye-worthy

[dull marsh]

oh no

[snow walrus]

Whoops

[sweet thistle]

Nah they're smart, they'll figure it out 😏

[dusk siren]

yeaaaaaaaah, about that

[dull marsh]

Is the New Forest something interesting? 🤔

[crisp eagle]

Hi Rob!

[proud minnow]

🐈‍⬛

[sharp flame]

I read Nausea by Sartre and now I'm depressed

[sweet thistle]

[snow walrus]

Did we not extract enough clues from official arts or we can't connect the clues well?

[crisp eagle]

You’re killing me, car

[dusk siren]

yeah... i don't recommend... maybe you're young though... you get past it 🙂

[proud minnow]

GOOD read… yes it’s a bit down

[sharp flame]

Nothingness.. makes me feel empty..

[hard forge]

Roquentin

[dull marsh]

I just feel like falling and falling and fallinnggg.....

[sly gale]

So do I just post some coincidences I noticed in this channel? I guess it would fall under the “teasing EE”. Might be a stretch but figured any additional info might help?

[proud minnow]

Will be reading up on the latest progress and work on a new picture tomorrow… ._.

[dull marsh]

ISEUL-TTTT

[dusk siren]

I'd almost say I had an existential crisis over that book

[sharp flame]

ISEULT! Please put them in a cool pose...

Iseul-t needs fashion!!!

[dull marsh]

Most progress is in this channel, #1320004425019949097 and #1318635922350149736

[crisp eagle]

You ever read The Dark Tower?

[proud minnow]

THX Ludo.

[ruby prawn]

#BringBackCNS

[hard forge]

Rob we appreciate you sparing some time here from your busy schedule

[snow walrus]

N⁰

[dusk siren]

Y3S

[ruby prawn]

tbh cns is already here, rumour is that vaiiya is a CNS front 👀

[proud minnow]

❤️C❤️N❤️S❤️

[dull marsh]

Queen of Heart = CNS

[ruby prawn]

Hmm 4 hearts....

[proud minnow]

The king novels..?

[cold heart]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-of-hearts-alice-in-wonderland-off-with-their-heads-disney-gif-22345329

[snow walrus]

[crisp eagle]

Yea!

[dusk siren]

So, they're frauds? Like CIA crossed with NSA? (I highly doubt it)

[dull marsh]

bro missing one

[sharp flame]

Rob you've got it all wrong, the Heart is not part of the CNS....

[snow walrus]

Ye one went under the hole

[ruby prawn]

i think so... one of the names on the vaiiya image is "Kate N" and one of the hacked images way back has a message that says "dont trust them?" and its signed by someone with the initals "KN" 👀

[dull marsh]

The whole hunt might just be about KLK, he was a little white rabbit after all

[proud minnow]

I read the two first I think, or at least the first one… we actually thought about calling smoking guns for gunslinger as an homage..!

[dusk siren]

Or Kate N infiltrates the vaiiya images and says not to trust them... and their brain chips

[cold heart]

speaking of.. that AiW stuff. @proud minnow... do i need to be more active when i next go Llandudno, it HAS to be on your board
... i need to take some pictures of the Alice stuff there at least right? 😭 🙏

[sharp flame]

speaking of which.. can we have that event back?! IT WAS SO FUN!

[proud minnow]

hehe

Time to sleep see you soon again.!

[ruby prawn]

could very well be.. but if the "KN" is kate N she must know something

[sweet thistle]

Bye Rob!

[hard forge]

ah the classic "hehe"

[proud minnow]

Missed you too BTW

[proud minnow]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE.!?

[crisp eagle]

my headcanon is finally put to rest. Thank you

[sweet thistle]

Miau is Miau.

[dull marsh]

Red (sport) car

[sharp flame]

😭

[proud minnow]

OMG

[ruby prawn]

rob has said hehe twice when i asked about cinematics for The finals....every time i see it i get flashbacks now ):

[dull marsh]

we are SO back

[hard forge]

you mean GO ?

[dusk veldt]

So since this isnt off topic, does that mean everything he says is a hint

[keen ravine]

GOO?

[dull marsh]

I've seen Rob say a lot of clues in off-topic too haha

[dusk veldt]

Impossible, he never leaks!

[proud minnow]

FUEL. FIRE. CAT.

[snow walrus]

Power. is. fuel.

[dusk veldt]

Good to see you Rob

[ruby prawn]

dissun gets their power from cats confirmed

[crisp eagle]

Rob. Is. Power

[sweet thistle]

Ooh I like that

[proud minnow]

Amhr = A true friend

[dull marsh]

awww

[dusk veldt]

Hehe

[sharp flame]

ROB BTW

[dusk veldt]

Gonna frame this ._.

[sharp flame]

I only just realised... MY TOWN...

is important to Lewis Carroll...

[proud minnow]

See you tomorrrow.

[sly gale]

Is this the right channel to post my theory with what I think is good evidence to a hint at a space map or something space related to an EE? Sorry lol still bad with discord😂

[dusk veldt]

hopefully you have 1k twitch followers by then...

[ruby prawn]

3 Rs?

[sharp flame]

and I walk past his grave sometimes..

[snow walrus]

Morrow

moRRow 🤣

[crisp eagle]

yes sorry Rob (the blue name) is one of the main creators of the EE's and we are all pumped he's here talking with us. it's been a while

[sly gale]

No worries, Rob is the goat!

[crisp eagle]

so you might get flooded out a little bit right now haha

[sly gale]

Okay but here:

idk if any or all of this is stuff you guys have figured out, but noticed an official art had a character with a tag on their clothing reading “END-12-4-98” which is the date of the launching of the unity module for the international space station. Also it’s on a VAIIYA sponsor clothing article and their CEO is SAL Scoria, similar name to the AI HAL from “2001: A Space Odyssey” Last name Scoria means vesicular volcanic rock formed from ejected molten lava. The new Bernal map has a volcano. And then it coincides with a Bernal Sphere which is a type of space-settlement intended as a long term home for permanent residents. Coincidence or SPACE MAP or space something lol?

[crisp eagle]

anything and everything with rr is sus

[dull marsh]

Heyo, the "END-12-4-98" is the launch date of STS-88, which is a space shuttle launch that started the assembly of the ISS
It's definitely EE Hunt related, not sure how related it would be to ingame content 🤔

[sly gale]

Ah gotcha, thanks for the info🫡 I think I saw or heard somewhere there was like a code we need right?

[hard forge]

also most CEO's last name is based on rock

[sly gale]

Love that

[worn rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-pim-smiling-friends-oh-my-god-adult-swim-gif-14927522876686070493

[hard forge]

except engimo not sure about dissun

[worn rivet]

My fav books are and will always be LotR

[alpine junco]

iseult art not confirmed

[hard current]

EYED

[crisp eagle]

If it's CNS art, I'm going to cry

We've got eyes people

[hard current]

So S33K confirmed to mean seek

[worn rivet]

Two of them

[alpine junco]

wheres the 2nd

[worn rivet]

In my head

They're next to each other

[alpine junco]

xd

[worn rivet]

Im sleeping now

[crisp eagle]

in ASCII S is 123 and Z is 132

[hard current]

123 132?

try leet

[crisp eagle]

I don't know what def would be in leet but SZ might be 52

[alpine junco]

wait

what if it is S Z de F

some name or title?

like Sebastian Ziani de Ferranti

[hard current]

5Zd3F in leet maybe?

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Ziani_de_Ferranti

"His first invention, at the age of 13, was an arc light for street lighting."

seek the light?

[sly gale]

I remember xbox dudes made their names 1337 to mean leet in like 2007 idk if that helps lol

[pure loom]

this is AMAZING!

[alpine junco]

can we make this an official sticker?

[crisp eagle]

I was doing some thinking about possible Titanic connections, 123, and 0. 0 possibly meaning a starting point or a new start. The Titanic was supposed to make it's way to NY where people could get a new start in the New World.
The term "New World" is used to describe the majority of lands of Earth's Western Hemisphere, particularly the Americas. The term arose in the early 16th century during Europe's Age of Discovery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World

This also stuck out to me: This realization expanded the geographical horizon of earlier European geographers, who had thought that the world only included Afro-Eurasian lands. Africa, Asia, and Europe became collectively called the "Old World" of the Eastern Hemisphere, while the Americas were then referred to as "the fourth part of the world", or the "New World".
Made me think of "123" with the New World being 4

[dull marsh]

@velvet narwhal hello sir could you run your script again so we can catch any potential latent eye Rob left?

[dusk siren]

I don't know about other people, but I'd give this a pretty big thumbs up.
.....

Sorry to interject, but correct me if I'm wrong, we already have two clues that are supposed to take us directly to** Level 3 passwords**?

1. You can fly around a relatively small part of the Las Vegas map and see "3, no 4 letters" (perhaps suggesting 4 letters, 3 distinct) that are "big, colorful, and cryptic" and those 4 letters make a password.

2. Something that could be transcribed as "X Y R R 1 X 2" but may have other transcriptions, where the answer is also literally a password.
   Is this right so far?
   ...

All my ideas end up way off base, so I know you guys will figure these out, right, but a couple thoughts/questions:

• For Las Vegas, reviewing Rob's VOD, does anyone think it might be the big yellow blocks that are arranged on top of the parking garage? One might already form an "L" and the other ones seem possibly jumbled, but that would fit with Rob's clue that they are "cryptic." Certainly big and colorful, at least compared to other things I could think of.

• For "XYRR1X2," can we get a list summarizing the various interpretations you guys have come up with so far that you think are 'best ideas'?

I don't know how to organize such an effort (again, bad at discord) but I have a couple that I have no doubt are wrong and nowhere close to the best ideas you guys have had collectively, to date.

[hard current]

for reference, if you look back at what Rob said in that twitch vid

it looks like he means
XY
RR
1X2

are all parts of three separate passwords

[dusk siren]

You think? Are you basing that on his saying "it has 'RR' in the middle"?

I mean, that idea definitely qualifies for such a list, at least.

I had 2 not very satisfying ideas:

1. XY = some word connoting something masculine (chromosomes) / literally RR = "rr" / 1 = "i" / "X2" = X^2 = XX = some word connoting something feminine
   Yeah I don't like it either. Like, this is surely wrong, but "herriher" would fit that schema. Unfortunately, it is basically nonsense.

2. X and Y are variables representing unknown letters (so, x and y) / literally RR = "rr" / 1 = "i" / "X" = x / 2 = "z"
   For instance, it could imply a word ending in the letters "rritz," although I can't think of one that also has "t" as the first letter as represented by x.

I just got the impression that Rob was saying this clue was relatively straightforward and not some complicated cipher, although I'm starting to learn that Rob might only be saying that kind of thing ironically. Also, my ideas are simple, but possibly/probably too simple. Anyway, this is why I'm counting on you guys to get these two soon. 🙂

[dusk siren]

Makes me think of all the playing card related stuff in the game and from the things Rob has said. 🙂

[crisp eagle]

Bit of a stretch, but “de” could be 45. There’s SZ-45 series microscopes which could be used to “SEEK” things. I don’t know about “F” though

[unreal jetty]

I see Rob stopped by

That was nice of him, we needed the spark

[dull marsh]

With Caesar shift -3 we get PWabC, which I interpret as SEEK PASSWORD a b C

Aka focus on the first line of passwords

[crisp eagle]

Maybe with C capitalized it means that will be the starting point of the line?

So MW.AREA#1 mma1-c maybe

[dull marsh]

The passwords are in 3 columns, going from mma1-c to mma1-a, mma2-c to...

Yes so C is the first line (better word would be row)

[alpine junco]

a+b=C

[velvet narwhal]

I'll do it after work 🫡 Could you also please add the missing jsons to the map? #1228108436042940445 message

[fresh quiver]

just dont held each other hostage 😂 like "If you do it, I do it"

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/bellatrix-harry-potter-hermione-witch-crazy-gif-7396263

DO IT. or it's over for the sheet

[hard forge]

while you are at it, could you also enter the password

[alpine junco]

And also solve #1178137622359593043

[quaint stream]

There's a watch my buddy was talking about called The Nixon Newton?

[fresh quiver]

42 solved

[fresh quiver]

42 solved

[toxic hollow]

is there a way to do private matches alone to search for things?

[velvet narwhal]

No, 2 players are needed to start a match

You could try making a 2nd account

[quaint stream]

This makes me think of the giant ball on sys horizon

[toxic hollow]

I see

ty !

[errant imp]

i missed a lot of rob messages, can annyone make a quick summary of the interesting things he said?

[gloomy anvil]

The mix of upper and lower case suggests ASCII values to me. The sum of ASCII values for each character is 444 (83 + 90 + 100 + 101 + 70), which is an interesting number, but other interpretations seem more likely.

[rugged breach]

"Looks like you need more clues, gonna work on picture, see you tomorrow"

• S33K = seek and another twitch chat hint

[errant imp]

yoo new picture drop today? sick

[errant imp]

more rabbits?!

[untold tiger]

where is the thread about the secret room on SYS Horizon?

[low escarp]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1315046366417915994

[untold tiger]

thank you

[worn rivet]

If a password is correct, can u enter it in any field and succeed or do u have to get the right one

[hot lagoon]

Ayo idk if anyone noticed but General Goodboy's name is Darius

[worn rivet]

Arc?

As in arc raiders?

As in the L3 solution is in arc raiders?

[quaint stream]

The Finals might be a toroidal process where others fall so you can rise

And maybe those rings around the CNS art gallery items are plasma toroids

[crisp eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-leigh574-question-understand-wisdom-gif-12472040

[quaint stream]

Are we in a huge tokamak? and The Finals is the process of the reactor?

[crisp eagle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Island
Monkey Island always makes me think of this book and then I found this little detail.

It was also released during The Gilded Age

[crisp eagle]

In the semi-official prequel story Porto Bello Gold by Arthur D. Howden Smith, Ben Gunn was the servant of captain Andrew "Rip-Rap" Murray, Flint's associate and the mastermind behind the capture of the treasure ship Santissima Trinidad [translates to Holy Trinity], whence the buried treasure was taken.

[fresh quiver]

you could see a connection to https://reachthefinals.com/devoncrossing

[crisp eagle]

The book starts out with two pirates getting into a sword fight at the inn that the main character works at before finding the treasure map. Reminded me of #1211002564015824906 message

[crisp eagle]

Yea I was reading through old stuff on the wiki again. Might not connect but it’s sus to me that this EE hunt started with Devon, Rob says it “started with swords and an X,” and Treasure Island started with a sword fight and the finding of the treasure map in Devon

[fresh quiver]

ye. just looking back into geocache again. Because we are not yet done with it

funny thing. just found it too the user 😂

[sharp flame]

LOL

that's sick

[fresh quiver]

ye... rob apparently has a place where he linked it. But dont want to share it publicy 😄

[hard current]

so excited for a new rob image

you guys think this weekend?

oh I just found robs twitter too lol

[fresh quiver]

Theory: we are not done with G=6 yet

[dull marsh]

o=0, i=1, e=3, g=6

So many convertions 😵‍💫

[gloomy anvil]

where's i=1 from

[fresh quiver]

1337 1 6u355?

[scenic geyser]

guys i glitched out of the map in sys in spectator mode and i found 2 suspicious places that look like rooms

[dull marsh]

Idk I made it the fuck up

[worn cairn]

I OOB'd today under the sys map with my friend and we noticed big cube structure that doesn't connect to anything on the map or to anything behind the borders. I have a screenshot but can't send it here for some reason

Also it may just be the area where initial animation of the match plays because it looks big

[dull marsh]

OOB shouldn't be necessary for EEs, but it seems like those big black boxes are on all maps, I can't remember if we had any confirmation about them ( @cold heart what does your memory says)

[ashen stump]

anyone tried floating the "compass" on the anti-grav cube? if the monkey island hint is even valid.

[static ingot]

Hi guys, I'm new to EE, dunno actually where to start as I just watched two last videos of RHB. But one thing I noticed is that author of AIW is Lewis and we have a Lewis gun in game. But I'd say that's nothing new right 😂

[dull marsh]

Hehe yeah that's been pointed out before, but you never know, sometimes we miss VERY OBVIOUS stuff

If you're interested in the hunt you can check his Easter Eggs playlist, he has covered pretty much all of it

[cold heart]

correct, you dont even need to be Out of Bounds to see them on a few of maps, they are just well hidden... Seoul comes to mind for example

[static ingot]

So regarding the hidden room, there is a consensus now that compass is probably goo barrel with an arrow and we are looking for a body of water for it to float?

[cold heart]

i seem to remember they serve as the loading animation areas, when you see all the contestants in their teams.. and when you do the "walk in" animation

---

its cool whatever its for, but its NOT the hidden room we are looking for ❤️

[worn cairn]

I guess it also could be glitch barrel

Because we need to magnetise the pin

[cold heart]

im not in game rn.. and dont have a screenshot of it to hand, but if youre curious the one on Seoul can be seen around here

you can see that from inbounds from the mall, but its easier if you go into free-cam and go to the "ceiling" of the map

[scenic geyser]

thats what i found

[worn cairn]

If it appears on every map then I am sure it is a place where initial animation with contestants play. It looks similar to window where you can trigger some of reloading animations in lobby then quickly switch to window where you change contestant's appearance to then see mags from a weapon laying on the floor. There needs to be some place to play those animations and it may be it

[worn cairn]

Just tried it with goo and glitch barrel. Nothing unregular

[dull marsh]

I'm not sure I'd call that a consensus, just one lead/idea

It's hard to tell how literal vs metaphorical Rob clue is

[scenic geyser]

here is that room

[opal pond]

Im 90% sure that the black boxes are the contestants intro screen

[agile wren]

this is room for intro of players

(have been confirmed by devs)

[dull marsh]

Yeah I'm very sure it was confirmed that it's nothing interesting for us anyway

[fresh quiver]

[sweet thistle]

They're no longer with us.

[timid solstice]

what if the little room is actually little, as in scaled down

thats why its almost impossible to get into

[dull marsh]

I feel like he did clue us about that, potentially related to Alice in Wonderland which grows bigger and smaller

And he does say multiple words about it being small

[alpine junco]

like those mini models of office buildings

[crisp eagle]

Only lights can fit! Barely

[snow walrus]

if we had a "drink me" bottle

[dull marsh]

He said it was basically impossible, which makes sense if we first need to be tiny, or to squeeze into it somehow

[crisp eagle]

I still get stuck on monkey island with him saying “that’s actually a really good clue for that room” in reference to the science is fun quote

[static ingot]

What comes to my mind regarding to shrinking and stuff in game - maybe gravity vortex shrinks smth? Or it could be some sort of optical illusion, when you are standing next to smth it appears bigger/smaller etc.

Also, can we pinpoint one of the sponsor to being capable of developing stuff capable of shrinking?

And in AIW, shrinkage happened after drinking water/liquid

[cold heart]

the thing is, is the gravity vortex was added in Season 5

the EE was doable in Season 4... it might have even been Season 3, i dont remember

[gusty timber]

I have no basis to go off of when I say this, but what if its not crafting a compass like RHB tried doing, but something to do with either Biology (related to dolphins being on SYS$HORIZON) or Chemistry, with some mix of barrels and or grenades

[hasty anvil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

Just some ideas based on the double rr and s33k hints

[hasty anvil]

https://alice.fandom.com/wiki/Dinah

Appearing in Alice Through the Looking-Glass
Several characters from the original book, other than Alice, appear. The most prominent is Dinah who reappears now the mother of two kittens. She assumes the role of **Humpty Dumpty **(EGG)

[static ingot]

House FIRE

[dusk siren]

i dont know how others do it... maybe it's much simpler than i realize, but as a noob, i have used the free nvidia gforce now tier to run a second player out of desperation. if it is much simpler to run two instances of the game simultaneously on one machine, might save me a minor hassle to know.

[toxic hollow]

Ye

[dusk siren]

My first thought was something physics-related, actually (like you need to hit something with a sufficient force at the right angle or something to reveal the room). Anyway, I hadn't thought about biology or chemistry yet. Def seems like any of those sciences could work.

[dusk siren]

Super tenuous: I recall people talking about the Double R Diner when the "double r" clue dropped (Twin Peaks, RIP David Lynch). I, too, feel like Dinah will be something (Alice goes on and on about her in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland). But I'd agree that trying to connect Dinah to Diner is a stretch.

[hasty anvil]

I think that could be a plausible link

[proven steeple]

just saw the latest RockhoundBlack video on the secret room on sys$horizon, has anyone tried making the goo-arrow compass thing float using the gravity grenades?

[dusk siren]

Maybe I missed the formation of a consensus, but is this Rob basically confirming @sharp flame 's idea, as in the interpretation (and not just the book) was a "GOOD read"?

[sharp flame]

yeeep

[dull marsh]

How does that relate in any way to SYS$Horizon room tho?

And Rob saying something is a good read doesn't necessarily means it's a clue

Could be, could be not

But fish idea was about the concept of "emptiness" from one of the two images we got, so to me it's pretty unrelated to the room

[sharp flame]

oh I didn't think it was related to the room at all

[worn rivet]

Do we expect ISEUL-T today or somewhere in the close future?

[crisp eagle]

It sounded like he was going to work on a picture today. Might not mean it’s finished and posted today though

[fresh quiver]

atleast expecting rob back today.
If with or without new picture? idk

[worn rivet]

That's what I was thinking

[dull marsh]

not expecting it today personally

we don't know how long it takes Rob to prepare such image

[worn rivet]

5 mins

[unreal jetty]

Any news?

[dusk siren]

Yeah, it was just those hidden letters in that "THE FINALS" logo... if it's easy to recall, what artwork did that logo and clue come from?

[sharp flame]

the VAIIYA one! in #official-art

[dusk siren]

sorry to ask for more, but is it easy to recall the other major clues you guys found in that artwork, if any?

[snow walrus]

#1320004425019949097 check pin in the thread

[dull marsh]

#1320004425019949097 message
#1318635922350149736 message

[dusk siren]

thx... ah, pinned comments, I see

[dull marsh]

Those images are mostly up to date, not quite tho

[sharp flame]

we found anything new since?

[dull marsh]

just little details like the pentafoil and such

[gloomy anvil]

Ludo pls fix, birthdate > deathdate

[dull marsh]

Yes I was planning to do so very soon

[dusk siren]

fwiw... when I started inspecting the VAIIYA image, I'm not seeing the "B" in "Terry B"... Did you guys already consider "Terry 9"?

fwiw... when I searched "Terry 9," the only interesting entry was the comic book issue "Planet Terry #9" https://www.comics.org/issue/211985/

I trust you guys agreed on "Terry B" but, again, fwiw...

per @eternal violet , guess this was deprecated, though?

[eternal violet]

yea, there were better guesses

[dusk siren]

A bit surprised that this was the only QE2 reference that came up (in Rabbit Hole, ofc)

Anyway, I'll put other thoughts along these lines in Rabbit Holes for now

I get why you guys were talking about "null matrices", "nothingness", "the void", etc. now based on the VAIIYA image, though.

[hard current]

rob sent

{

randomly last week

could be interpreted as “the beginning”

we see { } in the same image

been thinking, wonder if it could be considered a set of nothingness, and simone weil, since they’re encased by the two brackets in vaiiya, here’s a quote by her

Nothing can have as its destination anything other than its origin. The contrary idea, the idea of progress, is poison.

our origin in this case is simply sliescetaceaasconce, or, it’s geocache

or I’m schizophrenic

[dusk siren]

It did occur to me that in 'advanced'(?) L337, "Terry 9" would be "Terry g," but it's not as if we'd need more "Terry Gilliam" clues at this point...

"I'm something of a mathematician myself..." so it is interesting you would have xy RR 1X2... the first pair certainly reeks of a function from x -> y, which is typically defined in the space R^R... other mathematical interpretations potentially interesting as well

[dusk siren]

def worth noting, imo

[dusk siren]

I posted this idea previously connecting Tolkein's "Vaiya" to "The Void." Maybe relevant, or simply thematic, or simply coincidental (in truth I kinda assumed the 'AI' in 'VAIIYA' was an AI reference, though I guess replacing the "a" in Tolkein's "Vaiya" with "ai" would generate "VAIIYA")

[dull marsh]

Within the hunt usually G=6, rather than g=9 🤔

[dusk siren]

It's just that in the image it looks like a 9, so maybe lower case g versus uppercase G?

The way most people actually write a "g", not the goofy way it is typeset

Wait wait wait.... just searched for "root" in this thread.... tons of stuff!

So, the antecedent of Andre Weil's work is traced to Gauss... specifically work relating to "roots of unity." In basic real functions, roots are the 'zeroes.' In a 2x2 matrix setting, the analogue to roots (zeroes?) would be the matrices that are taken to the null matrices by the function.(?) Someone who is a professional or still in school can help out, maybe.

I took linear algebra too long ago.

E.g., if this is a legit connection, and what Rob calls a "code" in the form of xy rr 1x2 is some representation of a function, then that function might have roots that are relevant. e.g., y = 1+x^2 will have imaginary roots... it would be a quadratic function... maybe something of interest here.

[copper brook]

whats the general consensus on using bugs to find ee's. Like no clipping and stuff

[dull marsh]

We avoid it + it's unnecessary as far as we know

[copper brook]

sounds good

[dusk siren]

if i reach back in the recesses of my mind you get something like a "null space" and maybe "kernel"?

[sharp flame]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[timid solstice]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[dusk siren]

(chanting) image... image... image...

oh, and fwiw, {} are often used in defining functions in both mathematics and programming

[hard current]

if rob drops the new image tonight or tomorrow night i’m gonna cry, I’m already a few beers deep at the bar

[dusk siren]

we can raise a glass if he does

[rough sail]

https://tenor.com/view/adalfarus-saber-sader-artoria-artoria-pendragon-gif-22798476

[dusk siren]

uh-oh... i did the eyes thing once

[dull marsh]

big mistake, if Flex was not a veteran he would be banished forever

[fresh quiver]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[snow walrus]

I have an idea. If we solve level 3 Rob has to show up and we don't need to pray chain anymore 🧠

[fresh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-shh-quiet-hush-shut-up-gif-21648270

[timid solstice]

how do we summon rob? im rusty

{ vaiiya }

vaiiya group

*VAIIYA - We. As One. *

[dusk siren]

I We Who

[sharp flame]

@rob we miss you again!

[crisp eagle]

5 candles. 5 coordinates. I've done it!

[dusk siren]

You guys might like this...

The number is 567478, right?

Several suggested that this could be hex

I converted it to binary: 010101100111010001111000

I converted that to morse: .-.-.--..---.-...----...

After some trial and error I got: "ART TEAM AS ONE"

(Someone might need to check all that)

To the extent this number was showing up on cosmetics... could make sense

[worn rivet]

U guy's don't know how to summon rob!

Let me do it

Tomorrow

I'm tired

I should be up in ~8 hours

10:15

[dusk siren]

Here's a little bit of nonsense...
Calydon -> Artemis -> Arktos + goddess of the hunt -> bear hunt -> anti-arktos -> Antarctica -> Level 3 coordinates

[alpine junco]

Remote
Operations
Beacon

[dull marsh]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[thick rune]

I may have found a secret

[empty heron]

If you wouldn't mind, could you give a wide view of each spot so I can give them a look over?

I would like to visit them in game and check around.

[thick rune]

Erm I just took these two pictures I don't have any extra angles or nothin'

[empty heron]

Give me a general idea of where they were taken perhaps? I know the maps pretty well, but it'll still take me awhile to find them without a bit of info

[dull marsh]

What's the secret? 😄

[thick rune]

The 1st one is Monaco and I forgot the 2nd

[empty heron]

Yes I think I know where the first is. The second looks like either Seoul or skyway construction sites

But I suppose it could be Bernal, I don't know that map well yet

[thick rune]

There's a sign that occasionally appears in Monaco. I don't recall seeing it before so I took a photo. And the other one shows some writing on the walls

[thick rune]

It's not Bernal

[thick rune]

It's either Seoul or the construction area of Monaco

[empty heron]

Ah right Monaco might make more sense.

Well for the first, here's what I found. I parsed together the missing bits and discovered it refers to the cross streets next to the castle in real world Monaco. In game the historic building is conspicuously missing, replaced by a slightly less than standard condominium on which you found that sign. Additionally, one of the statues used for a previous Easter egg is right where the entrance to the replaced building would be.

This is the conspicuously missing Monaco courthouse.

[thick rune]

Interesting

I found a secret

[empty heron]

If this clue is anything like the previous, there may be a hidden nama tama where that statue is looking.

[dull marsh]

It is the exact same spot lol

[empty heron]

Shoot that is where it was on the duck and cover variant isn't it

[dull marsh]

yup

[thick rune]

I helped find a secret 🤑

[empty heron]

So this is a clue to an already solved ee

[dull marsh]

We don't really know if that sign is an EE, and if it is it could be unrelated

[empty heron]

Interesting though, helps us more with how to find and follow the in game clues, and understand Robs process

[thick rune]

I'd imagine it's important considering I've never seen it before even after playing for a long while.

[empty heron]

Yeah it's good to generally assume anything unique or out of the ordinary is a clue.

[thick rune]

$$$

[dull marsh]

oh... the number of things we ended up "discovering" that were there all along... and there is still plenty 😄

[thick rune]

Perhaps I'm just blind. But I really don't remember seeing that sign

[empty heron]

Here is a high contrast closeup of the other clue

I will replicate and digitize the aberrations shortly.

[hard current]

this has been discovered and discussed many a time over the years, nothing concrete yet!

[empty heron]

Not to be schizo but... Here's what it looked like when I held a mirror under the tracing...

It seems to resemble complete and utter nonsense!

[dusk siren]

People also tried reading it like this... still basically indecipherable from what I can tell

[dusk siren]

Well, I guess if I read it like (4' 7 1/8 " something something...) it is at least an actually meaningful measurement

This is... suspiciously close?

[dusk siren]

Yeah... hilariously, pretty much every length except the one we want...

[empty heron]

Doesn't help that it looks like whoever wrote it did it with a trackball

Maybe we should ask Rob who on the art team is designing textures on a laptop XD

[dusk siren]

I can only assume you guys have long since gone over these with a fine-toothed comb. A shame if these were just left over from IRL scans and I'm trying to make sense of them.

Anyway, if you guys decided it was something like 3434.5° (ofc, I imagine seeing all sorts of things), did you guys find a good use for whatever it was?

(Tried to search for it in the discord threads, but came up with nada)

All right... weekend time...

[empty heron]

My redstring board starting to look like this smh

[bleak salmon]

Re: The Compass Clue; I just had a prop rotate north on stream 👀
Try attaching a turret to a goo glob then have it reshaped by an enemy. I don't have anyone to test this with. 🤞 https://www.twitch.tv/superherowannabe/clip/CutePreciousOwlPunchTrees-6w8ROeHumKAhShHB

[dusk siren]

In the VAIIYA ad for the 2000 series chip, 2000 is rendered in binary. Converting the binary to morse code (since I guess this is the only trick I know) yields "OMENS"

[empty heron]

The "oh no imma have to... Be social"

Cheers m8 me too

[empty heron]

"I value the one trick practiced 1000 times over the thousand tricks practiced once"
-Bruise Slee

[dull marsh]

Am kinda confused there, doesn't it disappear every time after a few minutes? Do you mean in-round time or like an actual fixed time during the day?

Oh wait I think it's because Discord is converting the time to different timezones lmao

Oh hmm

But how would it work for when it disappears at other times? Cuz I'm pretty sure if you start a PR right now after a few minutes it will be gone 🤔

Ok gotcha

[slender lodge]

[gloomy anvil]

I was looking at other Rolling Stone lists. In the 2020 top 500 albums of all time, Aerosmith's "Rocks" (CEO names?) was ranked #366. The album is what "awakened" the musician Slash to get into music. Slash famously went on to join Guns N' Roses as lead guitarist.

Slash's debut solo album is named "Slash" and was produced by Eric Valentine. It's cover art is a skull and crossed bones.

Just a mishmash of some themes.

[errant imp]

Maybe its like the wood pallets and such, just measurements on them? Like the pergola in Monaco/Las Vegas

[empty heron]

Even the largest standard pallet size is 4ft exactly. It wouldn't be crazy for them to be measurements, but it would have to be at least half a foot larger than the pallets.

That said, it would be weird to use the imperial measurement system regardless. Most of the world doesn't recognize it.

[errant imp]

No I mean not the same numbers but rather just the meassurement of the items, like the pallets for example. They also have numbers on them, but every pallet has it I believe

[empty heron]

The trouble with the pallets in particular is that the scale no matter which way it's read doesn't align with the measurements of the pallets. It could be a measurement for something else though. I'm leaning on the idea that it's coordinates. There is a symbol that is an obvious Z, and a less obvious y in the mirrored format. Can't help but wonder if the remainder is an x. I don't know if there is a way to debug mode your map position in game though.

Even that though, y,x,z is a weird configuration

[snow walrus]

𓄣

[opaque reef]

why is there so much conected to aliec in wonderland?

[snow walrus]

we have been asking the same question for quiet long time

[fallen jasper]

i have seen it dissapear at other times too. never recorded, seemed like a bug.

[low escarp]

canisters in the game are pretty much random which type spawns where right?
but on vegas this spot always has 2 red

[inland hemlock]

i kinda feel like that is a design choice

[cold heart]

im not sure - ive had this happen back to back a couple of times...
from when i and others looked into this bug it seemed pretty random IF it happened

but when it does it always disappears at around 26 mins time remaining

thats the earliest date i remember seeing it, so its been in the game a while

[lavish meteor]

anyone found the sys horizon secret room?

[lusty marlin]

I'm gonna start looking for the secret room too, any clues so far? I know about the "Science is fun when you know the secrets!" and I'm thinking about the gas grenades, arrows, smoke, vortex and pyro in some combination on a specific spot

[snow walrus]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1315046366417915994

[lusty marlin]

don't have permission, do I need a role or that's how it is

[snow walrus]

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[lusty marlin]

ok, thank you

[gloomy anvil]

yeah, they make breaching the wall easier

[dusk siren]

Those are great, because you use one to breach the wall, then take the other to breach another wall... Have no idea if they save time, but it's fun blowing stuff up

re: xyrr1x2... occam's razor suggests that when Rob says you get one of the Level 3 passwords when you "enter this code," he just means the xyrr1x2 is just a code in the generic sense (just something to be deciphered). But given the x and y and thinking about what might look like a password that could be entered, is the answer a snippet of computer code (e.g., function definition)?

Even if it is unlikely, surely we have some leetcoders in here who could give their opinion 🙂

Also, I think I prefer other interpretations of SZdeF that you guys have come up with so far, but "deF" is a bit reminiscent of just how you start a function definition in many programming languages

[hard current]

like python?

[dusk siren]

yeah

just thought i'd put the thought down... someone might be like oh, yeah, it's obvious then

not obvious to me though 🙂

[hard current]

clearly rob meant def SZ 😭

[dusk siren]

Is SZ something that I don't know about... wait... People were saying it's "52"?

[hard current]

or he’s talking about the country Eswatini🥹

[hard current]

leet I think

[dusk siren]

52 "de" F (as in function)... compute a function taking 52 as an input? (I just can't believe a password would be an answer that is presumably some relatively short number)

I don't like this line of thinking much but in that case more likely something to do with programming a card game?

[hard current]

which could point back to queen of hearts again in aiw

but so far we have no concrete password ideas

[dusk siren]

yup

[hard current]

a lot of idea mashing the black knight, aiw, space/sts88 and such, mysticism and null through simone weil and her brother and the zero matrix

but… nothing concrete yet

and tbh… if her brother lead to null, then I think we can eliminate mysticism as that’s probablyyyy the primary connection there

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I concluded Simone Weil was just to get to Andre Weil... but I have had the sense that mysticism is a recurring theme, too

since you've been following this, were there explicit black knight- or aiw-related clues in that VAIIYA art or were people just trying to leverage those from the past?

[hard current]

rob has said cryptic things that have lead to aiw

[dusk siren]

sure.... but anything in the art specifically?

[hard current]

and the term black knight, black night, dark night, dark knight have come up over the years from Rob

but nothing specifically for aiw/black knight outside that black knight image

and there wasn’t anything for aiw in that as far as we know

I’m partially wondering if black knight/aiw are leads to diamond clues that would help us, not solvers for this level

[dusk siren]

Yeah, when people deciphered 01:23, I was hoping that would lead to something faster 😅

[hard current]

the first diamond clue

burrw

was discovered in relation to aiw

[dusk siren]

remind me what diamond clues are?

[hard current]

so, wondering if maybe that diamond clue holds some of our answers? all we’ve really turned out of it is saturn connections

Diamond clues are exceedingly rare and hard to find, and span the life of the ee hunt (iirc) and are helpful for parts of the hunt

[dull marsh]

There was nothing about Alice in Wonderland except that since the beginning of the hunt Rob has been talking about "rabbit holes", we've had a White Rabbit, and that all 3 of the level3activation EEs are related to Alice in Wonderland

[dusk siren]

Also... did you guys long since confirm the burrows were those tunnels along the edge of Monaco?

[hard current]

OH YEAH @dusk siren read chapter X (10) of aiw online

it mentions all of our passwords either explicitly (porpoise = cetacea) or implicitly (white rabbits -> slies)

[dusk siren]

Do people think more passwords going forward as well?

[dull marsh]

AiW Chapter X has:

• Griffin (was 1st clue of Level 2)
• White Rabbit
• Porpoise (Cetacea, mentioned in Dolphin Charm description)
• Askance (an other spelling of ASCONCE)

[dusk siren]

I started reading AIW...

[dull marsh]

It's a fun read 🙂

And there is William the Conqueror

[hard current]

I still think the lobster quadrille is a clue… somehow

[dusk siren]

The way Alice was trying to get out of or run through the burrows made me wish there was something down there, but you guys have scoured that part of the Monaco map, I bet

[dull marsh]

Also Alice in Wonderland sculpture in Central Park

[dusk siren]

Anyway, thx a ton for trying to bring me up to speed

[dull marsh]

And Rob had talked about "maybe we are very small in a normal park" or something like that

[hard current]

Rob has hinted many a time that things are not as they appear in relation to size

[dusk siren]

Last thing... "diamond clues"? what r thos

[hard current]

@dull marsh correct me if I’m wrong

[dull marsh]

You should check around the wiki, there is a lot of stuff in there

[dusk siren]

oooooooh, okay will do

[dull marsh]

Afaik Diamond clues are clues for the last stage

not sure if we're there yet tho

but one of them is burrw GIF, which directly relates to Alice in Wonderland so it's clearly possible

[hard current]

I’m stuck on the whole black knight satellite/sts88

sts88 is the mission that saw it and captured footage

but.. where does it go from there?

the only thing I can think of is because it’s theorized that it’s likely a piece of the sts88 thermal blanket, there’s something in game that can only be seen with thermals?

maybe during the night mode of a map?

[lusty marlin]

what about the in game events? anyone tried thermal when some event is active?

[static ingot]

Retro invasion? The Alice movie is stated to be from 1982 in some sources

[unreal jetty]

SZdeF

S33K

[pure loom]

I just spotted that we have a black panther Jaguar in the S5 Battle Pass and a panther is also mentioned in Chapter X of Alice In Wonderland: *Alice did not dare to disobey, though she felt sure it would all come wrong, and she went on in a trembling voice:—

“I passed by his garden, and marked, with one eye,
How the Owl and the Panther were sharing a pie—
[later editions continue as follows:
The Panther took pie-crust, and gravy, and meat,
While the Owl had the dish as its share of the treat.
When the pie was all finished, the Owl, as a boon,
Was kindly permitted to pocket the spoon:
While the Panther received knife and fork with a growl,
And concluded the banquet—”]*

[hard current]

owl - 0v0 right?

[unreal jetty]

Has there been any latin references in lvl 3 so far?

[hard current]

not that I’ve seen

[unreal jetty]

What about sacrificial offerings?

[pure loom]

Looking at other characters in AIW - seeing as Rob hinted to “what secrets do you have that are coming” (or words to that effect), the Caterpillar in AIW has a connection to René Descartes:

When the Caterpillar asks Alice to clarify a point, the child replies "I'm afraid I can't put it more clearly... for I can't but understand it myself, to begin with, and being so many different sizes in a day is very confusing". Here Carroll satirizes René Descartes, the founder of Cartesian philosophy, and his theory on innate ideas. Descartes argued that we are distracted by urgent bodily stimuli that swamp the human mind in childhood. Descartes also theorised that inherited preconceived opinions obstruct the human perception of the truth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar

[dusk siren]

I like any Descartes connection...

Slight possibility that the xy in xyrr1x2 is a reference to cartesian coordinates?

Also, some sources say this isn't the etymology of Descartes, and probably discussed previously by you guys but French etymology and defn of cartes:

Also, that thing I posted above about VAIIYA's 2000 chip eventually referring to "OMENS" potentially had me thinking this could suggest "0 mens" or "zero mens." So basically "zero mind"... this idea that VAIIYA promises to effectively eliminate your mind and ability to reason.

Prompted by the Descartes/AIW idea just above...

To stretch the metaphor... perhaps one could say that VAIIYA can add people's minds to the "null space." Incidentally, I'm pretty sure if I remember my math that, by linearity, you can combine any entities in the null space and they will still be in the null space, perhaps suggesting that all the entities in the null space really are absorbed into a kind of "one"

I'd been lazily putting off looking this up, but this is more or less what I was remembering (sorry if repeating previous ideas on here):

[crisp eagle]

#easter-eggs message I believe this is the best lead for SZdeF. Sebastian Ziani de Ferranti even had a company called S.Z. de Ferranti which has some pretty interesting history. Still slowly reading through it and links tied to it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferranti

[dusk siren]

endorsed

There was an interesting discussion around the time of those cryptic Japanese team names transliterations. "Live Wires." I've thought electricity might continue to be a thing, maybe for one of the Level 3 passwords...

[dull marsh]

Isn't "SEEK PWabC" clear? 😭

aka "seek password a, b, >C<" (aka first row)

And it's S33K with 3's, and SZdeF shifted by 3 is PWabC, and there are 3 passwords and 3 areas like in level3activation with 3 EEs

[dusk siren]

Yeah... I like it

[worn rivet]

In what context does SEEK PWabC First appear?

[dull marsh]

Rob wrote "S33K" and "SZdeF" on Twitch

[dusk siren]

But it's a bit like that "Terry 9" = "Terry Gilliam" idea I had... would it give us enough new information to be worth Rob dropping it as some hint

[crisp eagle]

Actually yea. Dude I forgot about that idea haha I’m sorry Ludo. It’s been…a week

[worn rivet]

Or it has to do with level 2 tier abc/def

[dusk siren]

I kind of dumbly assumed we were already seeking password C... (and a and b)

[dull marsh]

Yeah there might be other meanings of course, but it might be a clue to focus on first row, which reduces to 3 passwords already

[dusk siren]

yeah that's the part i liked best about your idea

[worn rivet]

I didn't get that far into RHB's videos tho

[worn rivet]

In the twitch chat?

[crisp eagle]

#1292576119849095210 message

[dusk siren]

fwiw... should also note that we have a power-related sponsor in DISSUN... so an IRL parallel to the power industry or a power business seems possible

[dull marsh]

No I don't think so, it's just the current password URLs are mmaN-X with N being 1, 2 and 3 and X being a, b and c

[pure loom]

There’s potential for double clue here though. Ferranti leads to Marconi who leads to Morse (which also has a Central Park connection).

[worn rivet]

What is the first picture to t3?

[dusk siren]

Do you mean the connection to Central Park via the Met? That was the connection I remember finding.

[pure loom]

https://www.centralparknyc.org/locations/samuel-f-b-morse

[dull marsh]

T3 or Level 3? T3 was the 2 question marks, Level 3 was Black Knight namatama

[dusk siren]

High Voltage is often associated with DC... It sounds like Ferranti's work was related at least in part to "stepping down" voltages, which I've always associated with electrical transformers...

[dusk siren]

Ah... he also has at least one painting in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, if that place is still of interest to you.

[pure loom]

Always haha

[worn rivet]

Are they not in #official-art ? I can't find them

[dusk siren]

I did a crazy rabbit hole thing about artworks in the Met and morse code, motivated by the artwork there in one of the galleries. I'll spare you guys the craziness until and unless something points in that direction again. 🙂

[dull marsh]

No, we got them from entering the right passwords

A lot of stuff is on the Miro board but we have not taken the time yet for T2abc, def and T3

[worn rivet]

I really need to continue watching RHB's videos🫠

[dull marsh]

Worst case you can go on https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2

[gloomy anvil]

or https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt because the wiki is awesome and exists

[dusk siren]

Long shot warning: S33K SZdF -> seek Ferranti -> (anagram) seek near rift

[worn rivet]

Isn't row 1 all c's? 1c 2c and 3c?

Or is that just on mobile

[pure loom]

Looking back on this now, the I_Want_To Black Knight image should probably be considered the “reward” for solving Level 2 as opposed to being part of Level 3, seeing as it didn’t really contribute to the activation of that level.

[gloomy anvil]

[dull marsh]

Yeah that image and level3activation are pretty disconnected, appart from the 19 rivets

[worn rivet]

This is actually so much fun trying to help, I never realy did anything in the main ee channel

I'll watch some rhb now tho

[dusk siren]

Any zinnias known to be in the game by any chance?

I gotta call it for the day, but this did remind me of the lamposts and generator in the practice range and elsewhere (if we've established that it is a "generator" and not, say, a transformer or switchgear, in case that might matter)...

[alpine junco]

one thing i see is "a b C" visually look like theyre getting bigger

so maybe a = small pw, b = medium pw, and C = big password

[alpine junco]

or password a + b = C

[dusk siren]

(I lied)... I didn't really want to post this because so far-fetched but in the event "S33K" is acting as an "anagram indicator" in a "cryptic crossword" clue, I tried working out an anagram for the entirety of "Sebastian Ziani de Ferranti." The most promising result was some ordering of the following:
"ZINNIAS ABIDE EAST NEAR RIFT"
This seems absurd except that we have the following connections:

• Bernal, Mexico
• the Peña de Bernal monolith
• the Trans-Mexican Volcanic Belt (sometimes abbreviated by geologists as C(entral)-MVB, and which is believed to be a 'contintental rift')
• and zinnias (a genus of plant known to be native to this region)

Alas... not zinnias

[alpine junco]

could be desert rose

[dusk siren]

The flower in the middle of this sticker has 12 petals, though... a zinnia sighting?

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenium_obesum

[gloomy anvil]

If this is the case I will lose my marbles

why would it have clues in it if it wasn't for Level 3 though

[alpine junco]

because "you want to believe"

[dusk siren]

ISS connection...

It does appear that zinnia maritima (Palmer's zinnia) has 8 petals and would be native to regions in the Trans-Mexican Volcanic Belt, also in the vicinity of Bernal. There also seem to be a few images purportedly of the species that have 6 petals. Either way, that could put those other season 5 battle pass cosmetics in the mix. (Anybody else sometimes rock the SHAK with the flowers on it?)

(Any other thoughts to follow in 'Rabbit Holes' - sry)

[worn rivet]

The namatama space image is also space related, maybe space/universe is a primary/secondary clue

Or it is a secondary clue leading to space as in room

SPACE and time

You get what i mean?

Do we have a place to look at all current L3 clues?

[sharp flame]

R Lies™️

[dusk siren]

If I ever want to use that, I'll be sure to ask your permission

This is crudely stylized (and maybe totally wrong) but this scheme might be useful, fwiw...

some mathematician is gonna put the laughing face on that, aren't they...

[lusty marlin]

I've stayed some time on the SYS$HORIZON map and I saw this: https://imgur.com/a/VfzVZ1e (can't send pictures yet)
It's in the North side too, in between Workspace and Library, Hope its something new=)

[empty heron]

Hey! So far as I know we have never followed up on turrets on goo reshaped into mop buckets pointing north. Really does seem like that could be related to the monkey island reference.

Does anybody wanna hop into a lobby with me and run some tests?

We have video evidence of it occurring in skyway, so I feel like we ought to try it in sys

[rugged breach]

You found the starting screen where you run out into the match, there's one on each map. Also, no EEs require going out of bounds

[dusk siren]

Did anyone ever point out that "Look Beyond The Walls" contains "We Shall Not Obey"? Unfortunately it leaves some goofy letters left over... (i.e., l, o, k, and d, which of course can be made to mean something interesting with a carefully chosen Caesar shift, if one insisted)

[lusty marlin]

good to know

[empty heron]

Bear in mind though that the Easter egg room might not be out of bounds, just in an area that seems out of bounds.

Due to lack of access

[dusk siren]

It made me think of John Carpenter's "They Live" (1988). I searched "Carpenter" in the thread and you guys actually had something about "the Walrus and the Carpenter," whatever that is. Maybe a connection to something actually in the hunt that you guys found? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live

They Live seems like it would have some distinct parallels to The Finals lore, fwiw

(I actually thought it was "Seek Beyond the Walls," so was working on Beyond the Walls anagrams. "Obey" seemed too good, but it actually helped that it might have been "Look Beyond the Walls" all along.)

And I thought of that because of that schematic I threw together and posted above, where the boundary of the null space could be walls that we want to be outside of.

Sorry if this is too heavy on the lore side and not heavy enough on the puzzle side...

[lusty marlin]

if the room is on the map and accessible without any special activation doesn't that mean we can just brake everything with hammers down? It seems too easy, atm I'm still trying to figure out the compass thing

[dusk siren]

I don't like thinking that Nama Tama's yolk is the null space, but perhaps the fact that Nama Tama is often shown broken with the yolk coming out would be a metaphor for breaking beyond the walls...

or not...

Wow, this image goes kinda hard... from waaaay back, I guess. Before my time, anyway.

[empty heron]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the room may be in bounds, but access a space that seems out of bounds after activation.

I.E. we activate it and a door opens in the boundary showing a stairwell down below the map. That space isn't out of bounds, just inaccessible until activated.

[empty heron]

I always assumed it was a parallel for the players spilling into gold coins when they died.

"A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid."
-J.R.R. Tolkien.

[dusk siren]

Was that Tolkien line just something nice you added, or was it a clue in the puzzle / has Rob explicitly referenced Tolkein in the past?

[empty heron]

Just something nice I added.

[lusty marlin]

I may be yapping again but S33K SZdeF could mean:
SZ = Süddeutsche Zeitung ( a german newspaper )
de = indicating the country code
F could mean the month but Idk the year, I tried to use 1984 because the Retro Invasion 84 event and the only similarities I found in the newspaper where the Macintosh launch(looks similar to the computers in the workplace from SYS$HORIZON) and some other news indicating to Sweden(Them planning for some tunnel to Denmark - Øresund Tunnel(maybe some clue for the room))

Also, I recommend seeing the 1984 Apple's Macintosh Commercial, it somehow fits the game theme, and the girl running with the hammer looks like a Heavy=)

[dusk siren]

Interpreted naively, it's just a stylized image of a shepherd, mirrored vertically, and superimposed on the DISSUN logo, which might be taken as a stylized image of the sun.
With that as background, this was interesting, I thought...

ORION?

[dusk siren]

Maybe that also... 🤔

[dusk siren]

I definitely think that "Retro Invasion 84" and the "1984 Apple Macintosh Commercial" is an interesting connection, the commercial itself referring to Orwell's "1984," which certainly suits the lore and perhaps the EE hunt of The Finals. Anybody get any connections to Orwell or his novel "1984" so far in the hunt?

And yeah... good recommendation. Great commercial! 🙂

Done by Ridley Scott, of "Alien" fame. How 'bout that? I'd forgotten that, I guess.
EDIT: In "They Live," the entities in control are actually aliens... we got some alien and alien invasion stuff in the game, certainly...

And you're right. The main character of the commercial might make for a good skin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErwS24cBZPc

[lusty marlin]

I think CNS is the rebel part, Scotty is the main protagonist and June his coworker, they will fall in love with each other in the future and they are gonna question their position as commentators and the gameshow, probably in the future another commentator is gonna be added or some character that will betray them stating is a rebel but he is actually a MultiCo associate

thats what i'm thinking after seeing the book, it kinda fits the game lore but it can also be a rabbit hole

[empty heron]

Taken to the tracing table.

It appears to be an illumination of a man pointing to a viper. I find it notable that he has no halo, and does not have a shepherds staff.

Meaning whatever story is being illuminated, the man is not a saint. The animal could very well be a lamb, but I found no aberrations to indicate feet, making me think it is a coiled serpent of some kind.

[lusty marlin]

It may suggest the Eden Garden, Adam?

[empty heron]

Possibly, but Adam did not accuse the serpent, Eve did, and that would be considered a gross malfeasance for a monk to misillustrate.

I would guess it's more likely John with the viper that but him, or Isaac and Jacob with the lamb.

Hard to say without having much detail on the animal. Illuminators weren't known for their realistic depictions.

Only for their devotion to the accuracy of the image to the word.

I will say that usually a serpent coiled would be depicted with it's head below the body rather than above, and most other depictions would show it as a squiggly line rather than coiled. Exceptions would indicate importance in the story being illuminated.

[dusk siren]

A bunch of people posted something like this. The weird, round tree boughs also paralleled the sculpture, I thought, and the interpretation of something solar and/or planetary

[empty heron]

Part of the issue is the zigzag pattern from the static in the animal section of the depiction. It makes it as unclear as possible what is a genuine aberration and what is just static.

[hard forge]

it's the good shepherd
either JC or John the Baptist

[dusk siren]

Why are you so certain. Did Rob confirm?

[hard forge]

that's the current consensus

[hard forge]

no rob didn't confirm it

[lusty marlin]

Try searching Moses and The Flaming Bush

the tree looks like its either on fire either full so

[dusk siren]

Also what some people saw as a sash of some sort, might have actually represented something more like this attire.

[hard forge]

We don't know if Rob drew it or if it's an actual art work.

Some people in here think it's a stained glass art

[dusk siren]

https://www.worldhistory.org/Orion/

[empty heron]

To my knowledge neither are logical assumptions. Christ would definitely be enhaloed. John would most likely be as well, since most illuminators that early on were not protestant.

[dusk siren]

So, Calydon connects to Artemis... goddess of the hunt, and if this is indeed Orion, the "Shepherd of the Sun," then we have the god of the hunt.

[dusk siren]

that's a good image... thx

[lusty marlin]

thats a goat/sheep for sure, if you look close you can see the head and everything

[dusk siren]

I'm just asking people to check the logic which led me to the artwork, even if they don't ultimately agree that what is likely intended is an association between (A) a shepherd, with (B) the sun.

[empty heron]

Ooh I like this one. I see he is indeed holding a staff as well. Still no halo though as far as I can tell. Perhaps David, Moses, or Joseph?

[crisp eagle]

That style of tree was used a lot in Manuscript art, usually portraying things in the New Testament I believe

[empty heron]

I wish I knew enough to identify the specific era/illuminator. It would be much easier to search through one artists specific works.

[dusk siren]

Reminder... this was the artwork... compare to the tree in the DISSUN image, for instance, and the color.

[dusk siren]

Somebody said we need this emote

But that might also entail a totally different face skin

Embark leaving money on the table, I'm thinking.

I'd be tempted to buy the "totally surprised guy" face

For people who don't click through, this is what @hard forge was referencing... 😂

[pulsar fiber]

the artwork resembles the artwork in the morgan picture bible. couldn't find the specific picture but there were very similar trees portrayed in the artwork.

[hard forge]

(unrelated but I love your pfp )

[dusk siren]

Oh, yeah... that's interesting...

[crisp eagle]

that itself is an easter egg for any new hunters haha

But yea I've been wondering about that hidden image. I think Rob probably did it himself, maybe to not get us caught up on the specific picture itself, but to focus on the type of art.

[empty heron]

O.O

It's stained glass

[hard forge]

that's a good thought

[empty heron]

I know it is! The cathedral in Monaco is known for having 183 stained glass windows depicting biblical history. I would bet anything that's one of them.

Preliminary check looks good. Style matches on many of the windows. Trouble is I can't seem to find a dedicated gallery to parse through.

[lusty marlin]

I ve made some research, this may be Orion and Sirius or mainly Lepus, look at them: https://imgur.com/a/b3HrfT4

from the artwork inside Dissun logo it may seem as a sheep but Lepus it looking kinda similar and can be confused

[crisp eagle]

The trees in this image just look exactly like the tree in the hidden image to me. Missing branch and all, which I think might be symbolic for that time, but I haven't done a lot of digging. Art isn't my area haha

It very well could be a piece in the cathedral in Monaco, but even then I would be curious as to what that would mean as far as The Hunt goes.

[pulsar fiber]

i found a 40-minute long tour on youtube of the cathedral, currently going through and zooming in on the windows now lol

[empty heron]

Hell yeah brother. I'm still searching for a catalogue XD

[crisp eagle]

We need hunters in monaco stat!

[empty heron]

"MOM I NEED DADS CREDIT CARD WERE GOING TO MONACO" "What why??!" "I need to steal a stained glass window for a video game I'm playing!"

[dusk siren]

Everthing sort of lines up in NYC (it's NYC), but I was plotting locations of interest in NYC and the Morgan Library and Museum seems like a worthwhile addition and pretty close to one of the yellow lines I drew. (Don't worry - I already know that the map itself might be nonsense, but just to post a map at all to maybe refresh some NYC associations and memories)

If Rob is directing us to something in NYC, I'm happy to abandon my "Shepherd of the Sun"/ORION idea... 🙂

[dusk siren]

lol... I think I did the same thing for the same video trying to pin down Princess Grace's tomb... 😂

[crisp eagle]

Well, we've believed in NYC being a big part of the hunt for a little bit now. Ever since RHB got eyes on his findings for it and the Gilded Age. I think a lot of hunters (myself included) still keep an eye out for NYC things

[dusk siren]

No, I know... definitely

Most of those things I mapped are related to discussions either I saw on here or had myself.

[feral pecan]

Hi

[dusk siren]

Yo

All right, later peeps... you guys rock

[pulsar fiber]

later homie

[crisp eagle]

goodnight, soldier 🫡 God speed

[lusty marlin]

does anyone has a map of all the clues so far? something like a node map would help

[dull marsh]

I placed an APS and a turret and waited to see if anything happened, and after like 15-ish minutes, the turret did this weird clicking noise, not sure if it's random or if there is some meaning, but might be worth investigating

Also this is an EE mechanic that has been used in Battlefield games so it wouldn't be too surprising

[crisp eagle]

do you mean as far as what we've found in images for level 3?

[lusty marlin]

that helps too, but a map of everything as far as lore goes would be nice

[crisp eagle]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page I always use the wiki. It's a really good resource for everything really

and it's updated by players. The easter eggs sections have all been recently updated as well

[lusty marlin]

good to know!

[dusk siren]

Is "xyrr1x2" just a cryptic way of describing a vector?
x y (components) real real (domains) 1x2 (matrix dimensions) = "vector" (or something related to vectors)?

[rugged breach]

You know, with all the love/heart clues we have as well as the diamond clues, it does make you wonder whether there are any missed clubs and spades ones following the alice in wonderland themes

Also worth noting that the standard symbols we use now haven't always been the same across different places

[dull marsh]

❤️ = Cups could relate to the Holy grail and Arthurian stories, including Tristan & Iseult

[dusk siren]

I didn't realize @hard current had already suggested the EastwooD DougH = EDDH idea for the big, colorful, cryptic letters Rob mentioned on Twitch. I still think it's promising. #1292576119849095210 message

But I re-upped this because I wanted to finally post the image of the roof of the parking garage on Las Vegas. Just wondering if these couldn't be deciphered as the big, colorful, cryptic letters in some way (as with devx's post, sorry if this, too, has already been considered).

I have no idea, frankly... maybe an L, J, H, and F?

Just exhausting all two of the ideas I had.

If you Caesar shift HFLJ you can get CAGE...

Not sure it's worth banging my head over unless other people get interested, though.

[dusk siren]

You guys already dig into the list of Tarot cards...?
This cups = hearts connection definitely made me think of it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarot

There are probably more colorful and better presented sites on trying to understand the list of all cards and their traditional meanings

78 cards total: 22 major arcana, 56 minor arcana

The minor arcana is made of the 4 suits, including cups, each suit containing 14 cards.

[shy oracle]

amazing video rhb! just watched it

now we HAVE to solve the secret room puzzle lol

[unreal jetty]

If we solve this I say we go solve the impossible Easter Egg next for BO3 js

[worn rivet]

In L2 there was golden clues for the last tier of L2, and there are Diamond clues for the final puzzle, I assume of L4. Are there Platinum clues for L3? Would make sense imo

[snow walrus]

waiting update 5.6 👀

[mossy wedge]

is this ladder known? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216039692437426306/1330510598961889360/20250119025150_1.jpg?ex=678e3e0e&is=678cec8e&hm=5a47d43ad9241d72f61fa93db9c97c4393f30573432e77d2ec1e87081795ef6e&=&format=webp&width=1514&height=634

[cold heart]

yep~ #1315046366417915994 message
nice find regardless though its pretty odd 🤔

[mossy wedge]

Looks like there's nothing else there, but! Some textures are only visible from specific angles (for performance optimization). Ladders are fully 360-degree models thought. These stairs and the ladder are definitely worth investigating further

I remember hearing about a box or fridge outside the map in Fallout 1. Apparently, devs forgot to remove it before the release

i don't think that's the case for online game full of EEs

[worn rivet]

Imma summon rob now

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

Let's hope it works again

[sharp flame]

It's my birthday... would be cool if rob will shows up

WITH a new official art

[worn rivet]

Happy birthday to u

[hard current]

an @sharp flame birthday present (happy birthday!!) with a new image? I’d cry tears of joy

[quasi slate]

Can this be some thing?? https://youtube.com/shorts/4Zwkw6o9Cfg?si=TyQ7OuZv5lZJv5X6

[rugged breach]

That's where the intro screen takes place, that box is also on every map!

[quasi slate]

Oh ok thanks

[hard current]

rob has hinted a large ee in the finals revolves around romance

[tight bay]

Hi

Just started the game few hours ago

[hard current]

have you tried using the rose in any way in conjunction? placing the rose at the point of disappearance?

[worn rivet]

Hi

[dusk siren]

Only instance I could find of "Havre" in the thread... Anyway, got to Le Havre via "Roquentin" and thought it had some potential relevance to the hunt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Havre

[sharp flame]

BTW the connection to "Roquentin" I figured was that Sartre (author) was a pioneer on the idea of "nothingness", matching the other "emptiness" clues in the image

though Le Havre might be a secondary connection 👀

[dusk siren]

Yeah, definitely that "nothingness" and "void" thing struck me as the primary thing! 🙂

I was impressed with the Roquentin get... 🙂

People don't have infinite time, but if they did pop into the article on Le Havre it might trigger something. I might come back to it from time to time if I notice anything else pointing that way

[tight bay]

I am new to the game should i play Light Medium or Heavy?

[dusk siren]

Gonna depend... you might also pop into the spawn-point and the-finals-chat threads

It's funny that spawn-point seems like the same kind of finals group chat as the main finals-chat thread and not really "just for new players"

Anyway, some people are just born to play light. I have to play heavy. Some people think heavy is the easiest to play. You can draw your own conclusions about my skill level

[tight bay]

I like the Medium

[dusk siren]

When I first played, I was honestly pretty new to gaming, and I began as a support medium, but the heal beam and defibs have been nerfed pretty hard so probably less valuable to your teammates that way

Yeah, medium is great. Anyway, I don't know what others think but I get the sense a lot of players main one build just based on the type they gravitate to.
I won't type more here, though, because this really is just for easter egg related stuff. Again, check out those other threads for the game play stuff.
Glad you found the game! See you in the arena! 🙂

[tight bay]

And i use flashbang frag and goo granade is that good

[dusk siren]

Controversial opinion: everything in the game is good. glhf

[worn rivet]

If u winning games with it, yes.

If u can't play with it, no.

Depends

[sweet thistle]

The convo should probably be moved out of the EE channel

[dusk siren]

Sometimes I even need to remind myself what this thread is for.

[tight bay]

Well played about 10 games won 4 is that good that i startet playing 2 hours ago

[fresh quiver]

Might rob's "see you tomorrow" have been a hidden clue in some way?

[rugged breach]

Likely, 3 Rs on tomorrrow #easter-eggs message

[burnt sun]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1182330443626983485 This is where you can talk about that

[opaque reef]

the new disco ball costume head thing has exactly 678 visable tiles, could this mean something?

[dusk siren]

Huge if true... no, honestly, I don't know how to respond to that. That's wild and I'm impressed you were able to calculate that at all. My two cents (and greatest frustration): anything can mean anything in this hunt... I thought I was going crazy seeing waaaay too many connections and then I saw in the RHB video that Rob has like 3+ thousand nodes in his map of the puzzle (did I hear that right, incidentally?)

[burnt sun]

3200, yes :D

[gloomy anvil]

somehow didn't notice this before

[fresh quiver]

now where I read it again. absolutely. 3 Rs

[rugged breach]

Issue now is what part of it is imporant

• 3 Rs = 3 = trinity = ???
• 1 extra r = ???
• Pirrrate speak = X marks the spot = monkey island/Guybrush = ???

[fresh quiver]

xy rr 1x2

how could we fit a R into it?

[rugged breach]

A stretch but it oculd be the Rs, while potentially part of the password, could also denote which area's password so RR is MW2, RRR, MW3.

And also a mega stretch, based on the 3 Rs being on tomorrow it could be a past-present-future situation with areas 1,2,3

[worn rivet]

What's MW2/3?

Modern warfare?

[rugged breach]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fresh quiver]

or Milkyway etc

[worn rivet]

Ah

[worn rivet]

Would lead to outer space again

[fresh quiver]

Our Main Problem is still we have no point to begin at directly. We have clues. But still no clue which form we need to type it in. Neither which subject it is. Space? Poetry? Greek? Latin? etc. etc.

when we finally find something to actual narrow things complete down. we are on a good way IMO

[worn rivet]

Tomorrow is something with time, we have space as a possible primary

Einstein eas the first to figure out they're connected

[hasty anvil]

#1292576119849095210 message

[worn rivet]

Was*

[hasty anvil]

First R R hint

What if he mispelt tomorrow just to point us to this word

tomorrow has rr in the middle. or Morrow

[worn rivet]

Maybe tomorrow with spelled as tomor row

[hard current]

actually I didn’t notice this either

tomorrrow -> add 1 r

[fresh quiver]

morrow only has 2 characters difference to burrow.

[fresh quiver]

none of us did until today 😭

and we all know we need to double, even triple read/check robs messages. we know that since a year xD

[worn rivet]

Huge reach, but we're figuring out they're connected right now making us like Einstein(well if it even is connected, as I said, it's a HUGE reach)

[rugged breach]

Guy poinitng it out immediately in shambles right now

[fresh quiver]

well. we are all blind.

@ruby prawn well... nice that you atleast spotted it on friday 😅😂

[shy oracle]

3 Rs.. reduce, reuse, recycle

[dusk siren]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridiculously_Resilient_Ridge

doubtful 😂

[fresh quiver]

sadly not overlaying with our coordinates 😂

[hard current]

afaik there’s no single word in natural languages that has rrr, could he be hinting at combining words again?

like purrrace purr + race

a dumb example but an example

[fresh quiver]

then it might need to be 3 words?

I can't think of a word which starts with RR or end with RR. well. except Purr now 😅😂

(but that just might be because english is not my native language)

[shy oracle]

has any of the words solved here involved shorthand? because RR is short for a lot of things depending on context, it's common take is railroad tho

[eternal violet]

im doubtful too, but this does overlay with the I_want_to coordinates

[hard current]

many clues have been given with shorthand iirc

[fresh quiver]

rob likes to work with wikipedia disambiguations

which also includes shorthand

[shy oracle]

that's good to know ty

[burnt sun]

germans: hold my beer

[fresh quiver]

some. but not that much'.

But could give you longer words without any context 🤣

[hard current]

i thought we’d get a new image today, i’m sad we’ll probs get it during the week when im busy 😭

[shy oracle]

thinking about it the only other word with 3 repeating letters is in sys$horizon where the glass windows has WWELCOW. it's also 3 repeating letters

i forgot the method RHB took to turn welcome into wwelcow but maybe it's the same?

if we apply the same method to get from WELCOME -> WWELCOW
we get
TOMORRROW -> 3TOWORRRO ?

[pure loom]

Just noting this, but the 19th word in Chapter X of Alive In Wonderland, is "Alice"

[crisp eagle]

makes me think of Rob's quote : "hey my name is Karl-Robert R-r-r-r-r-rupertius"

[shy oracle]

per this clip here https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/SpineyCogentCocoaOSsloth-QKYjptMqAtOMipfe

[snow walrus]

There is literally no easy way to find skyway board image. I hate to go finals wiki over and over and wait 2mins to page load up..

[dusk siren]

I'll be honest, guys... Rob better not be using us as a giant synthetic brain to add more good ideas to his 3,200 nodes that he hadn't even considered himself... 🥹

[worn rivet]

What notes? Plans for future ee's?

[dusk siren]

Just for his own entertainment and fascination 🙂

[snow walrus]

Pasting the fastlink here: Skyway Whiteboard
https://mywikis-eu-wiki-media.s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/thefinals/thumb/EE_whiteboard2.png/1280px-EE_whiteboard2.png

[fresh quiver]

don't worry. we already give him enough ideas. he dont need a synthetic brain for it when he has us 😭 😂

[dusk siren]

That's what I was trying to get at... "we" are the "brain" 😭 😂

Funny... I hadn't even consulted your emojis and I chose the exact same ones...

[snow walrus]

I have a suspicion that this part could be about L3

[dusk siren]

I should've said "you guys" are the "brain"... not sure I've had one idea I've liked in a while.

[fresh quiver]

yeah could be. but also other things on the board.

[pure loom]

ha, I just noticed the "P1" and "P3" in the top right, while I was reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_regress

I got to that from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Tortoise_Said_to_Achilles

[fresh quiver]

If rob does not appear again the next days. we could spent the time to revisit older clues.
Either we find old clues which hadnt a connection to passwords yet. Or things like clues we havent solved yet.

We probably have old clues which are being used in L3

[snow walrus]

Zeno's paradox ofc 😅

[worn rivet]

Hold on

DUSTY IS A WOMAN?

Since when?

Why didn't i know

[sweet thistle]

[snow walrus]

Most people don't realize haha, SHE is used to that i guess 😅

[worn rivet]

Want me to help u back up?

[worn rivet]

If you see this dusty, it wasn't mean in any negative way

[pure loom]

interesting, Alice Liddell, who was the IRL inspiration for the Alice in AIW, had a son named Leopold Reginald "Rex" Hargreaves

[fresh quiver]

"wonder what the RR in the middle could mean"

hehe

[worn rivet]

I read Alice Weidel😭😭😭

[fresh quiver]

👆 just let it be. don't google. Not getting politics involved here.

[dusk siren]

fwiw... https://www.followthevikings.com/discover/famous-vikings/reginald-king-of-waterford-and-york

[alpine junco]

what insect are you?

[pure loom]

This might have been noted before, but Lewis Carroll spoke with a stammer – a condition shared by most of his siblings

[dusk siren]

XY RR 1X2 ... Perhaps XY and 1X2 are the birth and death years or start and end years of a reign of some "R______ Rex" (i.e., "King R_______"). Possible one of the viking kings from that era.

I just can't quite figure out how to make the numbers work based on the various "kings" I've found so far, so probably not...

[fresh quiver]

could be a great idea

[snow walrus]

(x,y) € R² 1x2

[pure loom]

Curious little diamond reference - Lewis Carroll's brother, Edwin Dodgson, was appointed by the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel as missionary and school teacher to Tristan da Cunha. In 1882 Dodgson was optimistic about his progress, and his reports to England reflect his enthusiasm and energy. During that year the Admiralty diverted HMS Diamond to Tristan to deliver books, school materials and a harmonium.

[crisp eagle]

wait yea I think I remember you saying that. I'm running out of room in my brain haha

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[unreal jetty]

Any news?

[fresh quiver]

he should give us something of his room 🤣
Im still some kind of full from T3 stuff 😭

[dusk siren]

I had a few similar ideas... this the most recent.

#easter-eggs message

[unreal jetty]

So did people agree that SZdeF was a reference to that dude?

[dusk siren]

I also considered functions...

[unreal jetty]

Even if it did we gotta understand how the passwords work on this level

It might not be at bunched together like the last tier

All*

[dusk siren]

But your idea seems more directly linked to set theory, so that is in its favor given the VAIIYA image, I'd say

[unreal jetty]

@proud minnow on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard would you rank this tier to crack?