easter-eggs

[dull marsh]

It's a bug, when a player dies there are a couple elements that don't disappear such as glasses/custom eye, watches, plushies, ...

For some reason some of these elements (like glasses) can be glowing orange, and they will often move slowly in 1 direction in 3D space (can be any direction, including up/down) and will phase through walls.

Could be something else of course but it 99% sounds like that

[abstract spindle]

nock of finals

[limpid cloak]

Maybe you need the skin's vision device to find something on the map. Because on the banner description it says that it disappears at night, so maybe a night map. And then you have to burn it when you find it and the codes on the banner can be map information or something like that

[dusk siren]

I was kinda positive that I solved the "Top Secret! Burn After Reading" puzzle. Not sure that's what you were referring to, though. #1289041185549324288 message

As for the possibility "BEACON" is the entire solution, it could refer to the traditional Japanese stone lanterns on Kyoto. Or some combination of the Statue of Liberty's torch, NYC, and the "ASCONCE" clue. Or... is not even correct. Felt right, though.

[gloomy anvil]

ah I missed this

[dusk siren]

I noted at the time a possible connection all the way back to the title of the puzzle, "Hot Gossip." With a beacon, you can send messages, presumably including "gossip," and beacons can be created with the use of large open fires, which, as we all know, are "hot."

Also, @burnt sun noted that the "Noctovantage" bundle could have something to do with "IR beacons," and it really got me to thinking about "infrared" ("sub rosa", "under the rose", secrets), some of those associations.

Note: Other people posted good ideas for how else to use the numbers, including specific dates. I wouldn't discount those possibilities, too.

[topaz arch]

@dusk veldt i tried to get as many hints out of rob as i could last night LOL

[keen wind]

did the pink and blue thing always say 이슬-T? i thought i remembered it just being a blue circle

[dusk veldt]

I knooow thank you so much, you lifted my comments in the chat too hehe. Thank you so much

You helped a lot of us out!!!

[topaz arch]

🫡

[dusk siren]

If there is anything to this long shot Practice Range Roses theory I posted, placing the "rose-arrows" into Monaco might reveal more (e.g., locations in the Monaco map) than placing them in the Practice Range. #1203859365610922036 message

I'm posting that awesome map you made in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036 just in case.

I think the issue might be that 32 Rue Colonel Bellando doesn't exist (someone in the practice range roses thread said this first, I think), but what seems to be 12 Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro IRL:

(a) has the exact same sign as the building in the Practice Range and (b) definitely is situated right there in the Monaco map, looking toward those two palm trees and across the street from the cathedral. Pls tell me if I'm on too much of a tangent here.

[limpid cloak]

Wait! This is my where I life

[dusk siren]

Lol! Nice place

[limpid cloak]

Thank you, but its scary that u send a picture of my house

[dusk siren]

Maybe I don't know how to read the Monaco street maps, but this seems to be where Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro ends (based on the numbered addresses). I'm looking back down the street which curves off to the right. Totally a street in the game, too, but maybe this actually makes the practice range address less significant (just a nod to Monaco)

Sorry if this has long been discovered/discussed. Just news to me.

[empty plaza]

How to Dox yourself 101

🤣

[dusk siren]

What are you talking about? I didn't see nuttin' 😉

[empty plaza]

I just thought “wow these graphic settings are good” and then I realized it’s a google street view

[dusk siren]

lmao... I wish

I get 7 FPS on those graphics settings

[limpid cloak]

thats more then i have, i have only 6 FPS

btw how i can send pictures?

[dusk siren]

I press the "+" symbol and upload them from my drive

I hope I'm doing it correctly. Still trying to figure out how to behave on here as a responsible EE hunt citizen

[limpid cloak]

hmm + dont work, i am new with this discord stuff

[crisp eagle]

You’ve gotta level up first by chatting

[limpid cloak]

ach ok, thats sound reasonable ... but are they shortcuts

[crisp eagle]

#👋┇welcome message

I believe you have to be Rising Star to post pictures. Then just hit the + like Tom was saying. I believe there’s a work around though. I’m also not great at discord yet haha

[dusk siren]

This line of thinking prob eventually needs to go back into https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036 , but since it deals with Monaco, just one post about it here.
Concept: Match the 'identical' Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro signs from the Practice Range (Address 32) and Monaco IRL (Address 12), and use the theory of "rose-arrows" from the perspective of where "St. Valentine" is hidden in the heart-shaped Practice Range building.
Result: This map of Monaco recognizable from the in-game version.

Too tempting to point out that one of the red arrows would appear to point at the spiral stairwell which hid the gold nama tama in the Cathedral ruins variation. (Green arrows just to illustrate the result of arbitrarily scaling.) Have EE hunters found anything else significant in that vicinity? (Prob not and why I'm doubtful of this whole idea)

[dull marsh]

I noticed last night that for some reason some of the letters on the Argon casino are not lit up

Those letter seem to be R, S, E and P

That would make more sense for Rob to count those letters 1 by 1 and even miss one temporarily

Rather than if he was just reading a plain word, then it would OBVIOUSLY be 4 letters

So I think those letters are either something like that, either on the big dome

Lol, I think this graffiti spells DICE

[alpine junco]

could be part of a bigger word

[dusk siren]

The fact that it's the Argon has significance? (Has that been used before?)

Ar = 18 in the periodic table; alphabet -> periodic table: R = 18 = Ar, S = 19 = K, E = 5 = B, P = 16 = S. "BARKS." Just another random association, though.

[alpine junco]

are there any others on the other casinos?

[low escarp]

10+ 30% 🤷

[rigid adder]

Is that label new ?

[dull marsh]

There are other texts but no off letters

[keen wind]

not sure if relevant but its not here on the yt vid

[cold heart]

yes and no
https://youtu.be/on14c8UDss0?t=62

last season the Korean wasnt in the bean for some of them, but it was definitely shown at the end of the WT intro... and im pretty sure also on the WT screen/ map

just an error on the intro last season i think

[keen wind]

oh i guess they just reused the thumbnail for this season then xD

[alpine junco]

iseults logo looks like prince reuperts drop

[dusk siren]

Quick search didn't turn up Taegeukgi, but maybe someone wrote it in Korean? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taegeuk

My image editing skills are crap, but this is what I was trying to point out.

Guessing someone tried to translate "Iseul" already. I def don't speak Korean, so I did my best guess.

I don't know the context, but a search in the thread actually turned up one "dewdrop" h/t @unkempt dune

Guessing how to put in the "-T"

[unkempt dune]

so Blue Danube, the song, was maybe a clue given to @opal pond at TwitchCon -> https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1283141140719075459

and there's a river with the name Danube

[dusk siren]

Suggests "East", but that's one of those Korean transliterations of English words, not the actual Korean word for east

[unkempt dune]

not sure where I got the keyword "dewdrop" though

[dusk siren]

Prob here

"Blue Danube" would be cute since fairly safe to say "blue" is one of Iseul-T's main color associations

"Blue Dewdrop" = Iseul-T? Not sure that's so helpful, but maybe good to remember down the line

I just figured it was from "Tristan and Iseult," and surely that has to be a reference: e.g., "Tristan+ and Iseul-T"

I'll spare you guys more screencaps (too many already, I know), but looking up "Tristan" and "Iseult" separately was... idk

Now that @pure loom has me hooked on the giant asteroid impact theory ("The Big Splash," if you will), I was wondering about the strange Iseul-T slogan "The Bias Wrecker" (pretty prominently featured in the latest WT promotional video). Maybe like other strange sayings in the Finals it refers to historical events that take place in the interim between our time and The Finals time.

A reference to "balls" (no, not that kind)

"The Bias Wrecker" = "The Wrecking Ball"?

But I thought perhaps "The Bias Wrecker" would be a reference to @pure loom 's giant asteroid (a true "wrecking ball"). Don't know why the sayings in the Finals time would be so glib about a cataclysmic disaster, though.

[fast magnet]

New to the EE hunt and wondering in anyone has already found the "blackhole" with a way point you can make with the cashbox hoops?

[fading harness]

Has this been found it’s the number on the regales

It only shows up @ a certain angle

Nvmd just a deagles thing

[gloomy anvil]

Doesn't sound familiar to me, can you share more?

[burnt sun]

I guess he's talking about the cashbox gateway interaction?

[dusk siren]

sounds fun, if nothing else

[dusk siren]

By the way, the address of the house in the Practice Range is not "32, Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro," it's: "32 bis, Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro". In French, 'bis' signifies the designation of "a second thing with the same number." It's kind of like when you get an address like 32-1/2 in the U.S. between 32 and 33, or a 32, 32A and 33 consecutively.

This may also suggest the existence of "a first thing with the same number," perhaps in the Monaco map (even if we have to decipher where that is)

Is this a new stripe in the Practice Range? Have people figured out what those stripes on the other maps are yet? I've seen the pics others have taken and saw one on Kyoto, as well, the other day.

Re: "The Bias Wrecker"
Just learned 'bias' is sometimes used as a translation from Korean to English for "a fan's favorite" (e.g., a fan's favorite k-pop idol). Possible that's all this refers to and is nothing special beyond that (i.e., that Iseul-T gear is for the player who "wrecks a fan favorite")

[fast magnet]

Yeah throwing a gateway into the smallest hole creates a black cube. When you stand under it a certain way it starts flashing letter and numbers. Could be a code could be nothing but the fact that it gives a way point and doesnt despawn makes me think it might be part of a larger sequence. you can put it pretty much anywhere and that makes me think that there could be a "correct place" to put it.

Already tried putting a rose or cashbook in but it doesn't seem to have object interaction like a gate

[sharp mango]

Isn't that just how gateway works?

[sly quest]

What’s the deal with the person running through the woods in the islt ad

It seems totally unrelated to the entire message of the ad

[lone wave]

It looks like a melee hit

[undone quartz]

hear me out this is our first actual look of the meatspace (plausible)

[gloomy anvil]

Just a small connection to the Level 2 oval theme

"If you're not first - you're last!" > "If you ain't first, you're last!" > Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby > NASCAR > Ovals

[fervent minnow]

does anyone know what "12 29 58 8 28 43 13 7 32 08 58" could mean?

[gloomy anvil]

where is it from?

[fervent minnow]

From the battlepass items

Some items have the number 24 on it, but the icons of them have another number at the same place

[gloomy anvil]

ah yeah, I'm not aware of any progress made there yet, there's a thread for the cosmetic numbers here: #1289459917337399317 message

[fervent minnow]

Ok thx

[unkempt dune]

IRL

Iseul-T is about escaping "reality" and being who you really want to be in virtual reality

[alpine junco]

Anytime they show the woods i feel like theyre hinting to the woods of Monaco where an EE could be then i look there for 30 minutes and cant find anything

[gloomy anvil]

Like @full token pointed out earlier this year, PSOD could also be a reference to the "Purple Screen of Death" that indicates a critical error in virtual machines (another "VM" like Van Morrison and Virgin Mary)

It was added to Vegas in 1.6.0, so it's not the Level 3 letters that Rob said have been there since "the launch of Season 1", but could still have other meanings like above.

[fallen summit]

ummmm, guys?

ariad looking ahh t posing

[low escarp]

i remember something about a balloon ee what if we get alot of ppl doing this the whole round
i just did that solo nothing happened

[dull marsh]

When we talked about shooting a million rounds Rob said something along the lines that "it's not that simple" (not exact words)

[boreal delta]

Maybe it would be something like throwing knives as that would be logical to bursting balloons

[keen wind]

idk if typo or ee hint but Platrform

[hard forge]

I bet all my multibucks that it's a typo.

[torn swallow]

What abt gateway and cannons

[dull marsh]

I don't know, Patrick may have had that username before VMware was really famous, and maybe it's on purpose. I mean Patrick Söderlund easily gives PSOD

Hahaha wtf I'm becoming more aware of graffitis now

I was just watching an interview of Patrick from 11 years ago about BF4, there is some gameplay in the background

And I think this one could be spelling Uppsala?

[boreal delta]

I have found a way to get under the map on Monaco don't know if it's useful or not

[dull marsh]

It shouldn't be useful for any EE, as they don't ever require getting out of bounds (at least not as a glitch)

[boreal delta]

Ok thanks for letting me know

[granite bough]

lol

[gloomy anvil]

Is "PSOD" specifically associated with Patrick? Like a username he uses?

[dull marsh]

@sharp flame the number on the bins in Vegas, A-439 is a road in the UK, which leads to Stratford-upon-Avon, Shakespeare birthplace

Also his resting place is the Church of the Holy Trinity

[dull marsh]

⬆️ yup

Our current New York clues may be leading to Broadway and to theatre

[low escarp]

the forehead is inside the map and with goo gun u can stan "on" it maybe some melee weapon dagger hammer 🤷

[dull marsh]

Given the fact that Monkey Island 3 has an island with a cliff that looks like a big duck and that the guy controlling the place had plan to destroy that island with explosives controlled via satellites, I think this could be a lead 😅

[low escarp]

all stand under the head with oribital laster active

[snow walrus]

was that scene coming after the compass conversation

[low escarp]

@boreal delta

[boreal delta]

Idk if this brown line was always there or not?

[dull marsh]

yup, I mean the part of destroying the island is lore from somewhere else, but yes this is the island... literally a BIG DUCK

[dusk siren]

cool idea

[boreal delta]

Down to test that out.

[alpine junco]

tried it in season 1

[sharp flame]

no that's a rabbit

[random mauve]

Holtows Sun Insurance? Easter egg or nah?

[shy oracle]

there's a subliminal message in the ISEUL-T video that I just can't put my finger on

It has to do with the first few black/white seconds of the video

the multiple bodies and the eye triangle

and the music is also hinting towards something too

Also when the narrator guy says "absorbe" the second time it sounds like he's stressing and pushing for you to absorb. I think that's just the start of it because it's so well done that it doesn't even feel like a game trailer, it feels straight out of a Cannes or Paris Fashion Week trailer.

I also can't help but point out the similarities of the first Hitman mission "Showstopper" and how the main star of the show is also a bald guy just like the people in the ISEUL-T video

Eye 🤔

[acoustic urchin]

Is this being tracked? Was spinning the sticker around when I noticed it

14 14 15 22 24
12 14 22 00 24
11 00 11 23 00

[silk bolt]

#1289041185549324288

[winter meadow]

wowwww

[silk bolt]

Soooo...any idea?

[abstract spindle]

no

[rigid sandal]

idk if its new, but i found a barcode

on my hand in game

how can i show the video

[opal pond]

You’ll need a yellow role for that. Just keep talking in the server and you’ll get it eventually, is the barcode from the robot body paint thing?

[rigid sandal]

yeah i think so

[abstract spindle]

yh

[rigid sandal]

where does it lead?

do yall know

[opal pond]

I dont think we ever got something from the barcodes

But im probably wrong

[rigid sandal]

hmm ok

[dusty fern]

there's a red light on the side of the building in seoul, im not really the TFEE so i dont know if its related to anything, does anyone know what it is or if it is related to the red dot on the Holtow's Sunny Sign Up sticker?

[alpine junco]

Just a red light

[dusty fern]

seems odd to be there for no reason

[boreal delta]

Found this out of place on Monaco

[crisp eagle]

wrong channel

[opal pond]

Hes just spamming in all channels… <@&1012034066876473384> pls fix

[calm tide]

Hola quién para jugar

[silk bolt]

@fallen jasper

[opal pond]

Hahahaha

[fallen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-shocked-worried-nick-wilde-zootopia-gif-17028979

[dusk veldt]

It will be literally almost impossible to find, it could be something as faint as color patterns (like in Vegas with the koi fish) or numbers etc.

[silk bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-love-my-love-for-you-hearts-i-love-you-gif-16323316

[silk bolt]

rip :(

[low escarp]

i havnt seen anyone mention this but why does the bat nama have 24 on it

the pumpkin sticker and shirt have 2024 on it but why only 24 on nama

[cold heart]

the easter one also only has 24 on it

probably just for the year..

[bright ruin]

There's a LOT more surface area to work with on those other models

The egg goo grenade is pretty small, scale text down too much and you can't see it when it's actually used in game

[low escarp]

on kyoto part of this building is over the water and i thought there could be something with the pillars

33211

or from the other side in the water
235

[rigid adder]

#heavy-hangout message

Is this supposed to be one of S5 soundtrack or… ?

[snow walrus]

Dx country prefix list
https://www.arrl.org/files/file/dxcclist.txt

YO is Romania

SM is Sweden

SR is Poland

VVV is commonly used as a general attention in Amateur radio

Would you stop

[random mauve]

why

[snow walrus]

isnt a good place to farm

@fallen jasper could you explain that sending this spammy messages to all over the channels means farming

[unkempt dune]

24 you say...

there was something interesting I found with the number before. Too bad I forgot to write it down because it was really cool from what I remember

[snow walrus]

Found the current one

[low escarp]

just saw that stuff about 24 u forgor to write ur right it is really cool
i didnt see it before posting 😵‍💫

[unkempt dune]

24 hours in a day 🤔

[cosmic garnet]

Hi, I saw another floppy disc on kyoto during powershift game mode. It disappeared when I walked on it

https://imgur.com/a/QgLnnH5

[opal pond]

What number was on it?

[cosmic garnet]

I dont rembember

[opal pond]

If you can remember

Okay no problem

#1252315342328565760 message

Was it like this?

[cosmic garnet]

it was in that tree when i blowed it up with cl-40

[cosmic garnet]

yea but I think it was 28

just not sure

[opal pond]

Ok just so you know, If you remember what "type" of tree it was. All trees of that type have a small chance to drop the floppy disc

We just dont know what to do with it and if theres even something to it besides it dropping from a tree

[cosmic garnet]

maybe we need to collect them, like when instaling old programs you need like 4 of them or more

or single person needs to

[opal pond]

In the #1252315342328565760 thread there's some stuff we already tried. You can check those for more info

You'll have to scroll up a bit

If you cant talk in that channel its because your rank isnt high enough yet. Keep talking in the main channels until your name becomes yellow then it should be enough

[woeful cipher]

Check "B0CQXNMVSS" on Amazon

[alpine junco]

why

[woeful cipher]

[pure loom]

one thing I've mentioned previously about this, which could be the only catch, is that X is the 24th letter of the alphabet, so it could be a X marks the spot kind of thing. We need to see what 2025 Nama brings.

[unkempt dune]

X on the batatama (wrong name, but close enough)

could be a clue to go look at older #official-art

[weak dragon]

we also got a pirate outfit so that could be it

[past karma]

Does anyone want to run around Monaco in private lobby to look for any clues right now? Personally I want to investigate generators more

[hard forge]

#1217498821563514951

[dusk siren]

TL;DR: 'oye' is an archaic French version of 'oie,' which means 'goose.' I didn't see any connection yet to "OYE" in a search of the EE thread.
background: I was thinking of random associations with the Practice Range Roses and thought of the "Ring a Ring 'o Roses" / "Ring Around the Rosie" nursery rhyme. Nursery rhymes associate with Mother Goose -> the Goose that Lays Golden Eggs (see also Aesop's "The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs.") The French name for Mother Goose was historically Mere l'Oye. Hopefully worth a mention.

[timid solstice]

https://fxtwitter.com/reachthefinals/status/1856018726979535135

193,003,827,331,903

[stuck fulcrum]

Hmm

[fallen summit]

numbers

[delicate pivot]

He’s cooking tho, sorry I’m catching up on chat

[dull marsh]

As a distance in km its close to the distance to this star which has exoplanets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581

SETI has sent a signal to one of the planets

The signal will reach Gliese 581 in early 2029

Ragbir Bhathal claimed to have detected an unexplained pulse of light from the direction of the Gliese 581 system

[gloomy anvil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Men_(The_X-Files)

In addition, the episode relies heavily on mentions of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) program, the collective name for a scientific surveys undertaken to search for intelligent extraterrestrial life.

[gloomy anvil]

worth noting that this happened in 2008

2008 and 2029 are years we've had multiple clues / possible connections to

[hasty anvil]

Some symbols on the right of that picture and might align with the grid

[tawny cove]

I realised I posted this in the finals chat and was confused why there is off topic rage. Anyway, someone mentioned the Leon bundle. I just posted this : if the bundle is inspired by Leon the movie, then a simple rearrangement of the characters could be a clue to some other easter eggs. A key or sorts. Leon => Lone

not sure if we covered this already but the simplicity of it could be a hint that we need to apply this to other clues already found

[unkempt dune]

Oh! Like the Lone Ranger!

that's a good idea!

[tawny cove]

yes the cosmetic bundle, people are certain ints inspired by the movie Leon

ive seen it years ago and i think its such a simple play on the word that it might be a 'Key' for us to try on already found numbers and strings

[dull marsh]

Was talking a bit about the 4 letters in #1270882064249520198, but I think it belongs more here for now

So with each casino we have potential letters from the subtitles: AD, C, LV, D

There is also Magma in the back of one of them

So maybe by taking only the first ones for the roman numerals we can get MCDL, which is 1450

That's the year from which we know Gutenberg had a working press

I dug a bit into the topic and it seems pretty interesting, as Gutenberg's press has been described as the single most important invention of the whole second millenia

This is what allowed the scientific revolution to happen later, and the spread of knowledge and information

His biggest printing work was the Gutenberg Bible, which could explain why we've been getting some bible quotes within the hunt

New York and Central Park can point to Times Square, which is named after The New York Times, a newspaper, aka press

It also relates to the Gutenberg Project, which was started around the beginnings of internet itself, aiming to make knowledge free and accessible (stuff that Rob cares about)

There is also the related Runeberg Project, which aims to archive nordic countries literacy

Interestingly it has some owls on the front page (could be a coincidence tho) https://runeberg.org/

Gutenberg also had a goldsmith background and had worked with gems before

[crisp eagle]

There’s also a Gutenberg Bible on display at the New York Public Library

[sharp flame]

Close.. not sure how close we want it

the number itself is super specific

reminds me almost of the Hunt coords lol

[sharp flame]

Gliese 555 hits it exactly btw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HN_Librae

This one has a "Super Earth"

and 555 is interesting as a number

We, in fact, already brought up Gallery 555 at the Met museum which actually holds Faberge Easter Eggs

[sharp flame]

Explaining this: 193003827331903 km = 20.4005 Light Years

Gliese 555 fits comfortably in that range

[dull marsh]

555 could be vvv

[hard forge]

lore clue i assume

[shy oracle]

if we take this at face value and instead of looking at the literal lines of coding, because i dont think it's actually that many lines of code for the game

then i think it has to do with the actual lines of the map and it's possible it's the number of numerical lines in that map?

if we're counting it as "units" like a single hammer unit

[dull marsh]

No that's absolutely impossible, that's 193 terabits at the bare minimum, I don't think anyone around here has enough drive, RAM and VRAM combined to store that

[fast hare]

13-awps76

[sly quest]

I think yall are looking to that way too deep

Touch some grass

[low escarp]

grass > plants > roses 🤔

[hasty briar]

the roses mason, what do they mean

[dull marsh]

What does it mean then? 🤔

[sly quest]

Oh god

[alpine junco]

OPEN YOUR EYES

[unkempt dune]

What kind?

real or artificial?

[dusk siren]

Kyoto's been troubling me. Other than the fantails (Type 6 as I understand anyway), have we discovered any other major EEs?

So I thought about the "moonviewing" idea and thought maybe it's as simple as "looking through the moons" in the traditional stone lanterns

[rugged breach]

Stump https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1252315342328565760

[dull marsh]

Yeah the Stump is the biggest thing, there are also some references to Ariad and CNS in Japanese

[dusk siren]

I know EEs are typically pretty clear (e.g., 3-headed monkeys, white rabbits, letters on stones), but is it possible in Level 3 we get a different take?

[dull marsh]

And those lanterns are actual lanterns that are near the IRL pagoda, so they could have added some meaning to it (maybe through the fireflies?) but there might be nothing

[dusk siren]

Anyway, I'm prone to "seeing things" unfortunately, but I followed the lanterns (many aligned with what seemed to me pretty clear directions (e.g., 30 deg, 150 deg, etc.) and thought they could lead to markings.

[rugged breach]

There's a lot of very very subtle hints towards them. The 3 circles on the art deco in vegas being a nod to "three dawns" for example

Same with the numbers etched onto the parking garage on the map

[dusk siren]

I'll post a few pictures, but feel free to disregard (at least one is a repeated assets, but such an odd one in my view).

btw - thanks for all the feedback, that is very helpful, since I have a lot to catch up on from the hunt's history

you get the gist on the number thing (again, I understand it's likely totally hallucinated and nothing)

then this thing (repeated in a few places)

Finally, a more distinctive marking than usual (again, prob hallucinated, esp if merely repeated asset)

I am slightly more confident that "moonviewing" could be a legit thing, whatever that might mean. Sorry to fill the thread up. Trying to refrain when I can.

[gloomy anvil]

I noted some brief mentions of lanterns and UFOs while reading about Talladega (#easter-eggs message)

https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/talladega-frights-never-underestimate-this-place-on-and-off-the-track/449974/

The past few years, NASCAR campers have taken to lighting these Japanese lantern-looking devices, which are lightweight globes with candles or wicks inside.

They rise, float for a mile or two, catch fire and plummet to the ground, while the local police field calls of UFOs surrounding the track.

[crisp eagle]

I keep just staring at the level 3 page, and I can’t get past the fact that each tier has X’s already. I don’t know if that’s been mentioned, or if it means anything. I wasn’t part of level 2, but it looked like each time a tier was solved that’s when it would have an X, not the other way around.

[gloomy anvil]

This is what the Level 2 page looked like, all tiers had an X but only completed tiers had theirs highlighted. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1065308196677361704/image.png?ex=6734d512&is=67338392&hm=458757690f7e0ae7ed693f510a0faea230531ca4a6246df95d225c0aac5b0a68&

[crisp eagle]

Ohhh ok thanks! I swear I’m partially colorblind. I never noticed those X’s that aren’t highlighted yet. I had to really focus. Well dang haha

[ashen vault]

Isn't this was part of the easter egg?

[alpine junco]

ONE

[hearty meteor]

now we have to find loss

[ebon wind]

I have a speculation for the rose EE in the practice range im fairly new to the hunt and not too bright but seeing that when you go into the practice range your actually not alone could the rose EE be something multiple people have to do in the session cuzz if so that's a nightmare

And if you add a sequence that you have to do that's even scarier XD

[dusk veldt]

There is hidden graffiti on Kyoto, in a basement somewhere!

[dusk veldt]

Theres a good theory from RHB regarding this very thing in his latest vid!

[ashen vault]

Okay👍👍👍👍

[dusk siren]

Possible to hint at the theory? (I'll go watch the vid at some point, but don't have time just now)

[dusk siren]

I need to look that up. Thx for the pointer

I wonder if the height of the stripe is significant. The one I believe is a stripe on Kyoto goes literally up from the ground, which might be correlated with the placing of the Kyoto map to the far left relative to the other maps if placed on a timeline. But I'm guessing Skyway has had stripes, as well, and putting a "date" to the Skyway map gets controversial.

[dusk veldt]

there is a good collection of older stuff here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1245543670283894785

(I sorted through thousands of Rob messages ._.)

Some of it is outdated though, 3HMs have been found, same for dolphin charm etc

[iron bridge]

Someone told me that multiple people cannot join the same practice range

[opal pond]

Practise ranges are servers with other people. Under normal circumstances you can’t interact with eachother but people found ways to get out of their own range and meet others. But cant interact with anything on others people ranges or even see it.

So all you’ll see is someones player walking around in the air

[main acorn]

Could there be a Connection?

The one in black and white is Patrick Troughton , the actor who played the second doctor in the Dr Who series... He was born the 25th of March 1920 and died the 28th of March 1987.

[ebon wind]

yeah no you cant but by themself they have players in them they're out of bounds in they're own plot and people did branch together but the game will only render your range

[dusk siren]

Tried going through the LV thread and doing a search, but still feel like this is either known or an artifact. Anyway, found this behind that Las Vegas stripe. Looked mainly like steps.

Also, I'm tempted to try to decipher these light patterns, but doubtful I'll ever have the energy tbh

Finally, probably known but when I saw the flies around the garbage on LV, I did kind of think of the fireflies around the lanterns on Kyoto.

[shy oracle]

I found something cool, so you guys know the trees in the practice range has tags that say 738? Guess what, the namatama images in #official-art are exactly 738x738 pixels #official-art message

[sharp mango]

it's 2333x2333

[shy oracle]

oh wait you're right, so what's the 738 referring to then?

[fresh quiver]

these are called "Tree Survey markers"

so it might be nothing

(as the tree with the same markers is also on Monaco)

[ashen vault]

THERE ARE NUMBERS

[velvet narwhal]

The 567478 is engraved on most skins

But we don't know what it means yet

[cold heart]

567478
Flamethrower (H), MGL32 (H), Lewis Gun (H), M60 (H), AKM (M), Model 1887 (M), V9S (L), SR-84 (L), XP-54 (L)

those numbers arent new, refer to this or Discord search when looking at numbers on weapons: #1231616408270405762 message
.. though that table hasnt been updated since S3

[ashen vault]

oh okay that is good to know

[sly quest]

Love this skin man

Devs are really really creative, not enough credit

[gaunt bluff]

Any word on the roses in the practice range? When I destroy them my controller starts to vibrate in a sequence of 6 buzzes?

[dull marsh]

567478 in ASCII hexadecimal can be V t x

VT-x is another name for x86 virtualization, which allows OS to separate ring 0 (direct access to hardware) from higher rings, in which programs and users work

[undone quartz]

let him cook

[dull marsh]

Am probably cooking garbage rn ngl

[fresh quiver]

🥲

[rigid adder]

Lmao true

You’ve been hard at searching..

[sweet void]

Explosive

[sharp flame]

is that what it's translated to?

[sweet void]

I think so

[sharp flame]

Toy Bullet Charm has text on it

on the top:
DISCO

[velvet narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54

[sharp flame]

That's what I'd first thought and searched

but it looks like S4, more than 54

[velvet narwhal]

oh true..

[shy oracle]

Ugh I wish this could be a hint for the next season, especially with the mainstream vaporwave/cyberpunk take this has

[sharp flame]

the word "DISCO" is interesting

possibly referencing DISCOVERY

[lavish trellis]

Y’all needa gts

[sharp flame]

In latin, "disco" means "I learn"

in spanish, "disco" means "disk" (like Disk 22?)

Disco could be in reference to the style of the Toy Gun, but I'm not finding anything concrete, nor any IRL example of "Disco" appearing on one

and this gun doesn't particularly scream "Disco" as dancing, so I believe this is a clue

[ocean dagger]

May be it has something relationated with the disk found in kyoto map?

[shy oracle]

i think the most plausible thing here is it's short for discovery and referencing season 4

i'd like to see it hint the disks in kyoto, that'd be an epic easter egg thru the skin

[unkempt dune]

VERY DISCO

would be fun.. like a disco party

[fresh quiver]

The skirt has some numbers. Dunno if important

[crisp eagle]

What is that new set called? I’m at work and can’t get on yet

I’m thinking maybe disco - discovery - Star Trek: Discovery season 4 (S4)

[gloomy anvil]

Today's sets

[gloomy anvil]

I don't know anything about Star Trek, but came across this

[alpine junco]

what if we take all the numbers and smash them together really fast and create a even bigger number

[crisp eagle]

I don’t either. I just googled “disco S4” and came across something similar haha the synth stuck out

[gloomy anvil]

.04
00.008

"Little Green Men" is the 8th episode of the 4th season of Star Trek Deep Space 9. Just noting #easter-eggs message
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Men_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)

[crisp eagle]

Episode one of season 4 has a planet destroyed by a Gravitational Distortion. Looks kinda like the moon we had for a bit

That season was also filmed during the pandemic. Which could explain the mask in the set maybe?

[unkempt dune]

but yes fish... DISCO is 5 and VERY is 4

for 54 or S4

[pearl fossil]

a friend of mine mentioned getting a funny m60 reload animation where bro throws away his weapon and grabs a new one. i cant find any video of it anywhere. anyone know anything?

[dull marsh]

Could be a super-rare animation 🤔

[gloomy anvil]

I remember seeing exactly this, but I can't remember if it was in The Finals or not

[dull marsh]

I think there was something like that in some Battlefield and probably some other game, but never seen in THE FINALS™️

[gloomy anvil]

It's 'Grit & Glory' and is specific to the Grit & Glory skin

[pearl fossil]

ahhh

[gloomy anvil]

It also has a unique inspect where you clean the gun

[pearl fossil]

i have been educated thanks

[dull marsh]

Same 😄

[alpine junco]

wondering why 525 is on two battle pass items

[snow walrus]

777 caught my attention

there is an obelisk, an egg shape garden, a museum and Abraham Lincoln's sculpture nearby

what do you think?

the pic from Indiana State Fair

[dusk veldt]

Not really similar, its white and blue and pattern isnt matching

[unkempt dune]

I think it's fascinating

when I hear Indy, I think of Indiana Jones and Indianapolis 500

https://www.britannica.com/video/did-you-know-Indianapolis-500/-254813

[clear violet]

Have we already tried looking at the id numbers and names of the dioramas inside the maps?

[acoustic urchin]

Hey does anyone know anything about the holtow website and its search bar?

https://www.holtow.com/search

[acoustic urchin]

The full image

[sly quest]

Nice

[spiral meadow]

Anybody else notice the hand holding the insurance card for Holtow in fortune stadium looks a lot like lance’s hand from arc raiders? Sorry I can’t find a higher quality photo of the hand holding the insurance card but hopefully you can see what I mean.

[alpine junco]

has this been noted?

[unkempt dune]

not that I'm aware of

[dawn prism]

I don't have permission to share pictures, but i want to share something i don't know if its old or what
there is a code under a wrist watch

Where can i send it?

the code is 567478

Nvm this code is on alot of skins

[unkempt dune]

it's an interesting code

it means something

[dawn prism]

yup

[gloomy anvil]

Molecular Weight is an "M.W" I happened across. Just noting.

[alpine junco]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/567478

[shy oracle]

how does rob generally confirm if easter eggs are active or inactive, if he does say anything?

i remember reading somewhere that one was a timed ee but that's about it

[alpine junco]

Glitch clusters were a timed ee iirc

[unkempt dune]

like a mol?

[fresh quiver]

he confirms "true" statement like RHB posts 2 links that are connected to the Big Whoop. Rob will eye it "👀".

Else sometimes he answers us to questions or give us hints like "there is 1 EE which is time limited for the time of S1. etc

[shy oracle]

Thank you!

so it's safe to assume the 2 other golden namas are still discoverable 🙂

[exotic stone]

I really wish we could've gotten that as an inspect for all M60 guns

[fresh quiver]

yeah. But sometimes it lacks. Like the last weeks.
Rob told us he will tell us when they built a hidden Room ingame like in bf4.
Rob confirmed on a stream its there. But never told us 😄

[dull marsh]

Trying to think a bit about that, this is very likely a stretch, but I'm just trying to brainstorm

First thing is that he says "o" (the letter) not "zero"

[fresh quiver]

as letter? or a "OH"

[dull marsh]

Then he says there are 2 dots, potentially linking to Morse

[dull marsh]

Idk, just saying o for 0 like some English speaking people do

[unkempt dune]

I was going through old EA videos and noticed a familiar name... #easter-eggs message

Dante's Inferno
Cover Art: #1282815551944659104 message

Video Game
About: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante's_Inferno_(video_game)
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVs0zC3V5GQ
Publisher: EA (Electronic Arts)
Developer: Visceral Games

Animated Film
About: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante's_Inferno:_An_Animated_Epic
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBYGmoS2AHM
Distributor: Anchor Bay Entertainment and Manga Entertainment
Production Companies:

• Starz Media
• Film Roman
• Electronic Arts
• Visceral Games
• Production I.G
• Dong Woo Animation
• Manglobe
• JM Animation
• MOI Animation
• Digital eMation
• BigStar

[dull marsh]

If we rotate 01:23 it can look like

[fresh quiver]

funny enough "THE FINALS | Season 4 | Trailer" is exactly 1:23 long

[dull marsh]

If we make the 1st part Morse it could be .-.. which translates to L, then the 2 and 3 can be N and W (closest shape)

LNW-80 was an early computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNW-80

[fresh quiver]

1:23 rotated 180° is E2:1

[dull marsh]

And Light & Wonder is a gambling and casino machine manufacturer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_%26_Wonder

As I said, probably a stretch tho 😅

[fresh quiver]

we are all now just throwing things in that fits 1:23 aren't we? 🤣

[dull marsh]

Gotta see if anything fits through the square hole

[velvet narwhal]

pretty much everything fits in there...

[fresh quiver]

Is also exactly 1:23

[unkempt dune]

interesting guess

I like it

[dull marsh]

Also the duration of Dueling Sirens

[tardy drum]

I haven’t checked into this Discord or played the game since the new season, why interesting guess on an old message? 😮 did something happen?

[unkempt dune]

just looking at an old EA game #easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

Which relates to Steal The Spotlight, and we've had some STS (Space Transportation System) stuff in the hunt

[unkempt dune]

lots of sun references... holtow... and destruction too

[fresh quiver]

right now we are just throwing things at "1:23" and hope something might fit very well 😂

[dull marsh]

The 0 is likely as important as the rest

[fresh quiver]

01:23

[velvet narwhal]

The : could also be seen as a division symbol. 1:23 = 0.04347826087

[tardy drum]

Ahhh
Good luck y’all
3210 liftoff idk lol

[unkempt dune]

lol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw)

[tardy drum]

Final countdown
321
People counting down to near year
Y2K
People thought the world would end 💃🏻🤪

I hope on to spew some random BS after months
My work here is done

[unkempt dune]

silly geese

[fresh quiver]

I guess the also important bit might be "Oh I have seen a timestamp, 0, 1, 2, 3 [01:23], there's also two dots in there, huh. Still no-one has cracked that code."

So we probably already have seen it and might have worked on it?

[velvet narwhal]

I think he's mentioned 01:23 before

[unkempt dune]

but yeah

01:23 is 3210... 3 2 1 0

it's just a countdown

the final song at the end of a game is a certain kind of music thing

Shepard Tone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone

[velvet narwhal]

He posted this in offtopic once #1201288968562552863 message (That message was sent 01:23 in Swedish time)

[fresh quiver]

yes... i have also something in my mind about
something rings there. But i cannot assign it to somewhere

[unkempt dune]

descibed as "a musical barber's pole"

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah he has mentioned 01:23 a lot in:#easter-eggs from: rob_embark 23

[dull marsh]

Trying to convert to Morse by alternating: 0 = ., 1 = -, : = .. 2 = -- and 3 = ... gives .-..--...
That can translate to various things, including

RATS .-. .- - ... (death by rhodent, big rat, etc.)

L7 .-.. --... (ENGIMO, Layer 7)

There are 111 possibilities so...

[ashen vault]

Uh.....guys if I say 0123 is Season 4 trailer length then do I ruining the mood

[fresh quiver]

just searched for the same 🤣

(just took a second longer because i pulled all 4 links where he said it)

#1201288968562552863 message
#1201288968562552863 message
#1201288968562552863 message
#easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

He said 01:23 plenty of times long before S4 tho, there might be some link to it but unlikely to be the main meaning

[ashen vault]

Oh

[unkempt dune]

I liked this #1201288968562552863 message trivia @dim totem

[fresh quiver]

hadn't we connected 01:23 to something before S4?

[unkempt dune]

maybe elvis?

[fresh quiver]

idk

Another Idea:

01:23 Sweet dreams

01/2023 Sweet dreams

[dull marsh]

It was connected to a rocket launch for the Iridium constellation which he confirmed as a correct connection to the whole Elvis/Sun thingy, but it didn't go much further than that

[unkempt dune]

23 : 01 is oddly sus if we're talking about 01 : 23

[dull marsh]

The part that catches my eye is "it has two dots in it"

[eternal violet]

Looks like date time: 2023-01-13 14:57

[fresh quiver]

https://www.planning.go.ke/photo-2023-01-13-14-57-45/

state department of economic planning ?

edit: probably not

[unkempt dune]

probably not

unless..? 👀

https://www.planning.go.ke/faqs/

anyway, I have some other stuff to do

gotta rename a bunch of old family photos on an old hard drive so we can easily find certain photos

good luck

[unkempt dune]

Engimo and Holtow?!

who knows

mega conspiracy stuff

[opaque hazel]

not sure if it was mentioned before but for at least the iseul-t extraordinary background you get on the last page of the sponsors when your tilt the preview of the card up so the light reflects off of it it shows fingerprints

[arctic hemlock]

intersting

[dusk shell]

I haven't been paying attention to the lore recently where has the obsession with 1:23 come from

[crisp eagle]

#1292576119849095210 message

[dull marsh]

Rob has been saying a lot "01:23, time to sleep" followed by "sweet dreams" (with variations) a LOT, and now he added that we still haven't figured out this clue

[crisp eagle]

can you please stop?

[dusk shell]

Ok thanks

[plucky kettle]

idk if this is new or not, i was playing skyway stadium and i heard a ww2 airrade siren esque sound

[opal pond]

Were you near any of the cranes?

I think what you heard was the wrecking ball breaking off

[plucky kettle]

may of been that

[fresh quiver]

#easter-eggs message this?

[plucky kettle]

why tf does it sound like an air rade siren tho...

[plucky kettle]

maybe a little but also a little softer

[opal pond]

Ive never heard that before

The crane makes a beep thats it

[plucky kettle]

neither of the cranes were moving tho

[unkempt dune]

sleep is the key

and then everything becomes a dream... a sweet dream

https://youtu.be/OOxoeGL3tTo?feature=shared

[opal pond]

Doesnt have to if something like a part of a building somehow passes the cable it will be detached

But that’s really rare ofc

[plucky kettle]

nope

the ball wasnt moving nor was the surroundings

[shy oracle]

uggh i want to know now lmaoo

[red charm]

Teach 'em the very best you can

[Chorus]
The world won't get no better
If we just let it be, na, na, na, na, na, na

[red charm]

twice rob has used lowercase i's in all caps lock sentences

[silk bolt]

ok it can't be a coincidence or just a bug or embark forgot to change the sponsors logo again, this happened last season when it was iseult weeks and happened again with iseult this season, and in last season and this one holtow logo is the one that shows instead of iseult

[gloomy anvil]

If we were betting I'd place mine on it being a bug. It seems quite noticeably strange to just be an EE.

[full knot]

idk if anyone noticed but the kingfish team logo and name are almost identical to the kingsman logo, idk if thats just a funny detail or not'

[sharp flame]

maybe there's a fan in the studio haha

[full knot]

its a really good film, i watched the 2021 prequel yesterday

this could also mean the rest of the teams could be references off movies, books, or shows maybe

[dusk siren]

Going back to "X-Files: I Want to Believe," I can't remember the idea that led me to creator Chris Carter's other series "Millennium," but it has some interesting episode titles and descriptions. Long shot. But here is Millennium E2:1 if translated as S2E1.

More to the point, I def think "01" is sometimes interpreted as "._" in morse, like people were speculating above.

Then you possibly have "._.. 23," where ._.. can be interpreted a few ways

Don't know if people already went through all the possibilities:
"." = "E"; "._" = "A"; "._." = "R"; "_." = "N"; "_.." = "D"; ".." = "I"; "._.." = "L"

"AI 23" is one
"ENE 23" another

23 = W?

23 = "BC"

Go from the two letters to numbers, and use BC to get a date?

"AI" = 19 , "ED" = 54, "AEE" = 155, "ENE" = N/A, "RE" = 185, "L" = 12

Any famous "level 23"s in video games?

I have roughly zero experience going through official videos, so unclear to me what are artifacts in the new "Iseult Fashion Week" video when I try to rip and analyze it. Also, whether this is the thread to put them. The first non-black frame I got (after fiddling with the color settings) was this one. Someone with more experience, pls let me know if you think I am just creating misinformation or if you are able to replicate.

I think it's an artifact (got another frame like that)

Rorschach test?

This Engimo dragonfly a bit too prominent?

[sly quest]

Reach

[woeful cipher]

Like the cloud in Monaco

[shy oracle]

Has anyone mentioned this? These are the flowers in Kyoto main center building and the ceiling is full of flowers and dare I say… roses?

I can’t find physical roses in Kyoto but during a game while zip lining up this caught my eye

[hasty anvil]

Been trying to crack 01:23, just found that Swedish people use ‘:’ to contract words. As by wikipedias example, S:t = Sankt (saint). So 01 - 23 could be a contracted version of something
(Probably not)

It’s also used between elements in medical journal citations

So 01:23 could be H:V ( Hydrogen : Vanadium)

[dull marsh]

Since : can stand for division, 01:23 could be A/V (Audio/Video)

Those cables, RCA connectors, also known as A/V cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector

Or a "jack" plug

Even tho it's not the same RCA, Elvis was under RCA label at some point 🤔

Ah wait I'm dumb 23 is W

I should go back to sleep

.. = i (Morse)

So 01:23 = A .. W = AIW, could be Alice in Wonderland

All-in-Wonder graphic cards by ATI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-in-Wonder

[dull marsh]

The Cheshire Cat appears in a tree, and tells her that "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
Felt appropriate for here.

[spiral meadow]

I got some better images on the hand. Lmk what you think when you have the chance. Supposedly it is the crash test dummy skin but with altered fingers that look extremely similar to lance’s. I checked the test dummy hands in practice range and they are like the Holtow Impact Candidate hands.

[dusk veldt]

I dont think there is much in there other then that Embark just re-used something from their other game, happens alot. I might be wrong though

[dusk veldt]

Theres also, kinda surpisingly, alot of swedish people and connections made in them

[unkempt dune]

I think this is a very interesting observation

what I noticed a while back is that the card has smoke coming from it

so I was like "smoke card"

and I landed on this #1282815551944659104 message

[sharp flame]

I think they probably wanted the Crash Test Dummy's hands to have those special joints, but that would require a lot of work

you can see the Crash Test skin and the Billboard have the Black/Yellow circle in the same place, meaning they are the same one

as well as that the Billboard's hand has a wrist whereas Lance does not

but it does seem like a similar asset!

though not the exact same, there are some differences in the shapes of the finger joints

[gloomy anvil]

The events of Alice in Wonderland all take place in one of Alice's dreams. ("sweet dreams")

[dull marsh]

There is that brand that makes a wearable to track your sleep, they are called WHOOP (not Big Whoop tho)

And on that post they say that the recommended amount of Deep Sleep per night is 1:23 to 1:32 https://www.whoop.com/us/en/thelocker/average-sleep-stages-time/

[alpine junco]

What if he means 1 2 3 as in counting sheep

[gloomy anvil]

#easter-eggs message #easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

Wait WTF, I'm getting some brainfuck rn

[alpine junco]

132 minutes is 2.2 hours. What was released in update 2.2

[dull marsh]

I found this tweet which seemed funny as it's what Rob said https://x.com/Lauri12227031/status/1845334409462894741

But then checking their bio I see "X marks the spot" 🤯

It's very very probably a coincidence, but wtf XD

[alpine junco]

LLL, VVV

[fallow agate]

Scotty is CEO if Iseul-T confirmed

[gloomy anvil]

That's an interesting group of connections. [Big] Whoop, 01:23, 132, sleep. It seems a little circumstantial though since those figures are user statistics and subject to change at any point.

I'd bet that, primarily, 01:23 = AIW, since Rob specifically noted the "two dots" on Waterdance's stream.

[dull marsh]

Alternatively, this is thinking a bit far probably, but maybe that can relate to nucleic bases which form DNA? It basically works in base 4, with 2 pairs that are always opposite, a bit like 0-3 and 1-2

But I think sleep and night-related stuff are much much more likely

[gloomy anvil]

Rob's "It's time to dream" and "sweet dreams" are what really convince me on AIW = Alice in Wonderland

[unkempt dune]

yeah 👀

[dull marsh]

The White Rabbit, Mad Hatter and Alice all end up at the Mad Tea Party

Looking that up in relation to New York does bring up some interesting results

In 1773 there was the Tea Act

Approved on May 10, 1773, the Tea Act granted the East India Company a monopoly on tea in the colonies with the intention for the Company to repay their debt by selling a considerable amount of unsold tea stored in London.

That lead to a Tea Party protest, and it seems like it partially led to the american revolution https://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/the-new-york-tea-party

Also interesting that we get a mention of "the rule of thirds" but in a political sense

Although many historians often look towards John Adams' Rule of Thirds, it is entirely impossible to quantify the political division in the colonies at this time.

[gloomy anvil]

Have combinations of 7, 2, 5 been clues at all? I see some mentions of 257 but not sure of its origin.

This Tenniel illustration from Alice in Wonderland caught my eye, because we've had a playing card clue associated with Level 3 before, and it features red roses (although I don't think those are related to the "big hunt"). The cards depicted are 7, 2, 5.

[unkempt dune]

257 is one off from 357

[dull marsh]

I've only in mind 3, 5 and 7, being numbers related to each Level 3 activation EE

[shy oracle]

There’s also the song lyrics “1, 2, 3, strikes you’re out at the old ball game”

Given that we also have baseball themed cosmetics 🙂

also GO DODGERS!! GGGGGG

[unkempt dune]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-strikes_law

New York reference maybe?

1797 looks to be the year for New York

[gloomy anvil]

79

[dull marsh]

Book about the story of the Chernobyl accident

Not sure if Rob would go toward that subject tho

The rotation period of an earth satellite close to the surface of the earth is 83 minutes

The 2 dots might just be two bodies orbiting each other

[dull marsh]

Looking in relation to LEO (low earth orbit) and lion, I found those Lion statues which were made in 1911 for the New York Public Library on the 5th avenue and 42nd street, called Patience and Fortitude

(caught my eye as we've had leo/lion/li-ion before)

[wanton moat]

Easter Easter

[snow walrus]

Rob has been confirmed that this is TRUE

now i can share some of my initial observations about AIW (1985) C64 game

[fresh quiver]

thats wild

[gloomy anvil]

I just remembered July 25th 2008 > 7/25 > (7, 2, 5)

The playing card clue had a black knight Nama on it, and Fish made the black knight > dark knight > July 25, 2008 connection

[fresh quiver]

Just a guess: rob plays the day without HUD & inverted mouse. For myself its too strange and it could be hidden something behind this?

[dull marsh]

There might be an EE that's only visible in those settings?

[fresh quiver]

i mean... there could be.

[fresh quiver]

Track No. 3 on the OST of Alice in wonderlands is named "Proposal / down the hole"

[gloomy anvil]

so then it sounds like Alice in Wonderland should be one of our next steps, since Rob was about to give us a picture pointing in that direction. #1292576119849095210 message

and according to that clip, we'll need to do something with, or find a pattern in, all the easter eggs that originate from or connect to Alice in Wonderland, like the white rabbits and burrow / burrw.

[fresh quiver]

AiW OST Track No. 8 is named "Banndersnatched"

except that its a creature in AiW its also:

• a Video game. released 1985 & a Action Adventure. Platforms: Amiga, Atari ST, Classic Mac OS.
• a creature in the Larry Niven's fictionalknown space universe.
• a film of Blackmirror.
• an asteroid 9780 Bandersnatch

[alpine junco]

thing in common with the 1951 AiW film and The Final
Flamingos
Roses
White Rabbit

[fresh quiver]

addition:

Bandersnatches are the subject of a difficult algorithm design project for an apparently NP-complete problem in the academic theoretical computer science book by M. R. Garey and D. S. Johnson, Computers and Intractability: A Guide to the Theory of NP-Completeness.

[dull marsh]

Interesting link between space, gravity and Alice in Wonderland with the Chechire cat https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/where-alice-wonderland-meets-albert-einstein/

[dusk siren]

Quick search for "mastodon" in the thread turned up very little. Has anyone placed the mastodon skeleton in the SYS$HORIZON museum at the Smithsonian yet as part of an exhibition going back to 2020? (tbh, I'm still hung up on moving to D.C. after NYC) https://americanart.si.edu/blog/mysteries-first-mastodon-conservators-perspective

Really like the Alice in Wonderland idea... Nice, guys. 🙂

[fresh quiver]

chechire cat at all is also interesting.

"There is a suggestion that Carroll found inspiration for the name and expression of the Cheshire Cat in the 16th century sandstone carving of a grinning cat, on the west face of St Wilfrid's Church tower in Grappenhall, a village 4.9 mi (7.9 km) from his birthplace in Daresbury, Cheshire."

In the 1999 television adaptation of Carroll's books, the Cheshire Cat is portrayed by Whoopi Goldberg.

[pure loom]

yes, we found the actual specimen from the Smithsonian online

and matched the tusks

[rigid adder]

Any new video soon ? 👀

[dull marsh]

This HAS to be on Rob's board, about half of the lyrics are in Italian https://youtu.be/_0QFVVMEmAo

[pure loom]

Another ARC Raiders one to come early next week and then an Easter Egg one after that.

[unkempt dune]

It's a full moon tonight btw

vampires, werewolves, oceans... gamers who live in the dark

it's a supermoon https://science.nasa.gov/moon/supermoons/

[gloomy anvil]

Can anybody identify the third example Rob gives of Alice in Wonderland easter eggs? He mentions the white rabbits, burrow, and then says something unintelligible to me. #1292576119849095210 message

[fresh quiver]

sounds for me like "you had bunnys, you had burrow, you have ... that had something" but without mentioning what exactly

but now... gn8

[dusk siren]

Have people already mentioned the roses (maybe finally another clue to the roses, pls)? The playing cards made me think of Las Vegas, as well.

Wonder if the video game reference in the same wiki article is anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_McGee's_Alice

[gloomy anvil]

I made a brief note of them earlier #easter-eggs message #easter-eggs message

[full sequoia]

not sure if this has been discovered yet (Or if its even a easter egg but its still cool) but this charm corresponds to your internal clock time

[dusk siren]

Don't know if AIW extends to "Through the Looking Glass," but that features a Humpty-Dumpty appearance. Are there any versions of nama tama that have a crack (sort of feel like I definitely saw one)?

[gloomy anvil]

https://mywikis-eu-wiki-media.s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/thefinals/THE_FINALS_NamaTama_Concept_0.1.png

from T1F

In a way, it represents Nama taking a fall, being put "back together" with the plaster, but it failing, resulting in the Nama skull.

[dusk siren]

sounds like (a) it was used and (b) going to "Through the Looking Glass" might be a stretch. OTOH, the actual original book was "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," so perhaps anything set in the AIW universe is fair game, including Carroll's poems.

52 Pickup always struck me as one of those quirky cosmetics names (I mean, I know what "52 Pickup" refers to IRL, but maybe not in-game). Anyway, the Queen of Hearts obv as the AIW reference.

[floral kraken]

I got that one specifically because it legit points out the actual time. So cool.

[full sequoia]

Looks like a super cool skin, sucks that it was time limited to an old battlepass i think

[alpine junco]

kinda like humpty dumpty

[gloomy anvil]

yea that's what I'm thinking, it's subtle but possible

[crisp eagle]

With Rob, it seems like subtle is plenty big enough

[alpine junco]

7 stages of grief, (TFEE hunters after no EE’s on fortune stadium)

[shy oracle]

If there was a hash/point of location I’m sure it’d lead to another secret that points towards the big whoop in fortune stadium im sure lol

I think there was one.. we’d have to be crazy to even think about that it is one though :/

[gloomy anvil]

So Nama Tama in THE_FINALS_NamaTama_Concept_0.1 could maybe be a subtle reference to the story of Humpty Dumpty

1. Took a great fall (breaks)
2. Attempts to be "put together" (with the plaster)
3. Attempt fails, Nama cannot be "put together again" (skull face representing death)

Some more rough findings related to Humpty Dumpty

• The story was originally presented as a riddle, to which the answer was "an egg."
• One of the earliest iterations of the story comes from an 1803 publication of 'Mother Goose's Melody' (Golden Goose ?).
• This iteration was republished in 1810 as part of Gammer Gurton's Garland (GGG, 666 ?). This is one of the earliest collections of English nursery rhymes, and contains 79 rhymes in total. Only one copy of the original edition survives today.
• There is a statue of the Mother Goose character in Central Park, with other nursery rhyme characters carved into its side.
• Humpty was first explicitly depicted as an egg in Lewis Carroll's 'Through the Looking Glass' (Alice in Wonderland sequel).

[alpine junco]

The image bothers me, why does it go from half to split in half back to half?

[fallow agate]

Nama is always being bullied by Moolah

[unkempt dune]

I guess I never said it here..? HumT DumT

[dull marsh]

Yup, all watches show the time in THE FINALS™️

[dull marsh]

Isn't it by ÖRF and his friends?

[full sequoia]

Oh nice

[late bison]

https://youtu.be/PeOb2WygFjE?si=9ALpRp0tIwVGQQVN

[sharp flame]

2102?!

Holy shit

isn't that like confirmation that the game takes place after that year

[dull marsh]

Let's gooooo

[dull marsh]

I see it more as we are in 2102 right now, just like websites always have updated copyright to the current year

[sharp flame]

I didn't want to assume, but for sure 👀

Drip-feeding lore 🙏🙏

[dull marsh]

I mean any further than that and we would start to be about 80 years in the future, and not about 75 😄

[sharp flame]

I mean it still fits the "75-years in the future" bill

so no big surprises

but it's nice to have it narrowed down to after the year 2100

feels more future-y than 2098 or something haha

[dull marsh]

@solar glade might wanna have a look at that

[sharp flame]

"Sparks Digital Entertainment"

Sparks Digital Entertainment, under exclusive license to MultiCo, Inc. All rights reserve 2102

[solar glade]

inches of resting

[fresh quiver]

@pure loom you are something informed about all the NYC stuff that was found. Had someone ever talked about the "Faberge Big Egg hunt" in NYC? Havent found anything in search.

https://www.faberge.com/blogs/news/the-faberge-big-egg-hunt-launches-in-new-york?srsltid=AfmBOoqJtrFM5Kp9qTBcP9_msXiIM2K4TiCi5SytdhtsUQ3PPEl0ZjWy

https://thebigegghunt.org

[solar glade]

should be "reserved ©". probably a typo

[dull marsh]

And here it's MultiCO, not MultiCo 🤔

[solar glade]

ye MultiCO, Inc. for that matter

[unkempt dune]

all cap letters...MCO

https://flymco.com/

Florida connection

like the skybridge in Florida and that monkey island on Florida

Planes use row numbers and seat letters. In simple planes ABC is on the left and DEF is on the right while facing the cockpit.

so the right side has DEF like a 3-key on a T9 pad

which could be a connection to DEF CON

[fresh quiver]

depends on the configuration of the plane, type of plane & manufactur

[unkempt dune]

in this case, a basic American Airlines plane

(AA like a battery)

[unkempt dune]

Orlando Florida does have this and it mentions "Merlin" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Eye

A wheel of fortune potentially?

or maybe it's just a Florida reference

Here's a quarter design I found on Wikipedia

"Gateway to Discovery"

https://coinappraiser.com/coins/value-of-2004-florida-state-quarter/

History of the design

The land of Florida was first discovered by Ponce de Leon who was looking for the Fountain of Youth. He called Florida “Pascua Florida,” which translated means “Flowery Easter.”

in other words, the term Florida can be a flower reference. Its name is a reference to The Resurrection. Maybe there's an Uncharted connection with Florida and THE FINALS because of the Fountain of Youth part of that quote above

there's also this which I did not know:

Florida is the home to the American Space Program, NASA.

[unkempt dune]

One other theme idea was apparently "Fishing Capital of the World"

[alpine junco]

#1263921941530677370 message bumping this here since all clues havent been found

[fallow agate]

My knowledge of Nama Lore is very little

[willow bluff]

Robs hint about the secret room:
“science is fun if you know its secrets” made me think of this Tesla quote:
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
Maybe healing beam = energy, sonar grenade = frequency, charge and slam = vibration all put together

[unkempt dune]

Was that quote about the secret room? I do like that Tesla quote connection

[gloomy anvil]

#1292576119849095210 message

[unkempt dune]

Thanks for that

well, based on my current knowledge, the secret might end up being wild

[shy oracle]

rob said it was nearly impossible to get to

if that's the case and we don't find the room

i just want to reiterate one of my favorite quotes, it's not about the destination or the journey it's about the company

[alpine junco]

if you know the secrets of science

[shy oracle]

i recently had a bio professor ingrain in us that science is all about experimentation and drawing conclusions from that. he's very big on data and using that as proof to uphold theories and was a super passionate dude in all of life science.
yet HIS secret was to be open to being wrong even if our hypothesis seems like it can be right

he was a really cool dude and i respected him but he was a high energy kind of passionate tbh, i guess you have to be if you want to see what life has to offer

[crisp eagle]

isn't the quote from Monkey Island?

[shy oracle]

similar to it 🙂

[fresh quiver]

first thing that i recall when reading this.

My old physics teacher had the joke that he forgot the tests inside the wall.
Theoretically it is possible to go through walls, even in Reallife.
You just need to try it X million times.
with luck you will have the same frequency / resonance as the wall. then you could pass through it.

It would fit energy, frequency & Vibration

[burnt sun]

We should try platform 9 3/4

[shy oracle]

i love this reference 🙂

[clear stump]

So he talks about the circle around the apple, I was just wondering dose this connect to anything? The only reason why I can find there being a circle around it is to hold it up.

Maby we have to move the art pieces around?

[hasty anvil]

The circle reminds me of an orbit, maybe we can find the angle of orbit / tilt angle

[unkempt dune]

Definitely agree on that one

[unkempt dune]

That's the right mindset

really good "secret"

although it feels like it ought to be common knowledge especially when you have experience programming 😂

[woeful cipher]

Has anyone check this one * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830597067292743/1307473289442103376/IMG_3331.jpg?ex=673a6ee3&is=67391d63&hm=ee02d4d34fc44c149c9a4752a2f386b9ce95712ee10b8a1512bb0e884cd17f7d&on * image manipulation ?

[rigid adder]

Who made this photo ? Or where did you get that photo from ? 😅

[woeful cipher]

#🥚┇off-topic message

[crisp eagle]

@dull marsh should we bother with making a thread for the RHB Flamingo or just pop off here more?

[dull marsh]

Idk, I feel like there isn't much to make a thread of

And there isn't a ton of EE talk happening these days so I think it's fine here

[crisp eagle]

yea that's true and kinda where my brain was at. just more thread clutter haha

[keen ravine]

its 100% on Vegas right?

[crisp eagle]

are the only flamingos the golden ones at glamora?

[dull marsh]

Do you confirm? @pure loom

[clear stump]

I’ll look into that. There are also several other pieces of art that have the same sort of orbit around them too.

[normal crow]

What gonna on?

[fresh quiver]

@pure loom just throwing this at you again. Might already have been a hint from rob?
#easter-eggs message

BTW something insane happened tonight… there was a flamingo standing outside my apartment.! Have you anything to do with that.?!

[crisp eagle]

hmmm night time

[shy oracle]

Did we discover all the Easter eggs in skyway stadium high rise? Because the golden thingies here shine during the last round

AND IN THIS CASE THE GAME GOT ME TO DIAMOND 2 IN WT LETS GOOOO

In this case they are not lit up, different game, just the first 2 rounds

[keen ravine]

was it at night that it was lit up?

[shy oracle]

Oh that’s a good question, I don’t remember but it was kinda foggy this game

[dusk veldt]

On the second floor above the area in wich Rob reffered to there being a EE (vegas), there is a second monitor

There is also a blue one on the floor below

Rob also lifted this in the twitch chat a while ago (0)

The (0) is apparently a person waving, this was most likely reffering to the halloween EEs since that was the topic of discussion at that time

but you never know

[keen ravine]

hmm interesting

[fresh quiver]

will throw some things from old rob messages again before heading to bed...

711214

HRD / Hertzsprung-Russell diagram
#easter-eggs message

Memory lane, almost like we are back where we started, I wonder why, but I guess William would be proud.
#easter-eggs message

but maybe just havent found the solutions because of lack of sleep.
Good Night

[keen ravine]

night night

[crisp eagle]

what (0) is a person waving? i think i missed something

[clear stump]

Ok so the apple that he said was “interesting” the circle around it moves along with the apple unlike the other 3 art pieces where the art pice moves separately of the neon shape around it.

[opal pond]

Rob sent the "it is" message like 1-2 seconds after I send my message. It couldve been a reply to amhr instead of replying to me. amhr asked if it was an internal joke or an EE

Just so everybody knows

[dusk veldt]

Yeah thats true now that I think ab it

[rigid adder]

👍

[ruby prawn]

Could the (0) thing be related to the burrw gif? it looks kinda similar in certain pictures, just a thought.

[low escarp]

#1292576119849095210 message take a flamingo put it on something black and let it listen to some rock music

[opal pond]

The holtow stage?

[low escarp]

idk theres a few stages on vegas

[opal pond]

Yeah but only that one plays rock music right?

[rancid rapids]

Taken care of, thank you for the notice and apologies!

[opal pond]

No problem, thanks!

[low escarp]

i summon thee oh great Rock Black Flamingo

vegas these photos / posters are always the same for u but they are not the same for every player

@wicked igloo

but this one for example is the same for everyone

@peak solstice

idk what this could mean but every painting is the same for everyone so why make these "random"

[low escarp]

there was some consistency to it the "theatre" poster for me was always the "5" poster for mammut

[peak solstice]

and the theatre women for you was a poker poster for me all the time

but there were also some poker posters which were the same for both of us

[iron bridge]

What's with the black circles on the ground of the Vegas map?

I couldn't count how many there were during the game but they were along the main stretch there, on the ground

[alpine junco]

They are there in real life

[alpine junco]

What if these are just hints.

[pure loom]

Funnily enough, this is not the first time this has been tried

[pure loom]

It could have been a hint. Maybe we take one of the normal gold flamingos somewhere to transform it

That stage? For the “rock” part?

[gloomy anvil]

These have already been mentioned, but I want to collect them all in one list because they're nice connections.

• The Season 4 "Gill. T. Fisher" bundle features a King Fisher, and is likely a reference to "The Fisher King" (1991) by Terry Gilliam (> Gill. T.)
  • That film takes place in New York City and Central Park
• In legend, the "Fisher King" is a figure who guards the Holy Grail
• Terry Gilliam previously co-directed "Monty Python and The Holy Grail" (1975)
  • That film famously features a White Rabbit and Black Knight, the latter wearing the exact same type of knight helmet as Nama Tama

It's tricky deciding what to write into the wiki when we don't receive confirmations from Rob during this level

[gloomy anvil]

I just came across this book, "The Holy Grail" by Jack Spicer, published by White Rabbit Press in 1964
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/27218559-the-holy-grail

I was about to also mention the dotted connections to "Jack" too, like

• Nama Tama was first seen wearing Black Knight armor on a Jack of Clubs card
• The protagonist of The Fisher King (1991) in named Jack
• The Joker's real name is Jack (context: #1282815551944659104 message #1282815551944659104 message)
  and now this book by Jack Spicer popped up

But still worth keeping in mind that Jack is a very common name

White Rabbit Press publications, such as "The Holy Grail" feature this depiction of a rabbit
https://archive.org/details/jack-spicer-the-holy-grail/page/n37/mode/2up

or some slight variation, not identical drawings

*pressmark

[shy oracle]

well the hand of faith, that's currently in the Golden Nugget casino hotel, is the biggest golden nugget found by a metal detector

i think the map sticker is just that like the duck map of this season and it is the location of the golden nama

what if one of the golden flamingos is supposed to act like a metal detector?

[dull marsh]

Oh lol @gloomy anvil , I was reading about the Jabberwocky, which is a monster in a non-sensical poem in Through the Looking-Glass

And Terry Gilliam, after directing the Holy Grail Monty Python, made a movies called "The Jabberwocky"

In that movie there is a "Black Knight" that kills the monster

And there is a line from that non-sense poem on the base of the Alice in Wonderland sculpture in Central Park

Because of those links, I think that (0) simply represents a looking glass

Also Through The Looking-Glass is all about it being mirrored, which is a big theme

[gloomy anvil]

That's a great find

[dull marsh]

Another potential crazy link: Through The Looking Glass = TTLG = 7716 = U+7716 = 眖 = which translate to "eye"

[gloomy anvil]

Not too confident in this but "MW" = mirror world / mirrored world (from TTLG)?

[dull marsh]

What about Mirror Wonderland?

[gloomy anvil]

A bit more info on White Rabbit Press. They published 63 books between 1957-68. It reminds me that ? = 63 in ASCII (from T3), but that one could be a coincidence.
https://verdantpress.com/checklist/white-rabbit-press/
https://fromasecretlocation.com/white-rabbit-press/

[topaz arch]

the secret room on SYS hasn't been found yet right?

[unkempt dune]

presumeably yes unless I'm out of the loop

[topaz arch]

hear me out, we get enough ppl for a priv match and we all run demats and try to find it

[unkempt dune]

I like that idea

I do have some free time right now

[topaz arch]

me too, we gotta have at least 6 ppl for a priv so if we can get enough im down to try tonight

[unkempt dune]

we only need 2 though

unless something has changed

[topaz arch]

wait did they change it? i remember it being 6 minimum

[unkempt dune]

used to be around that much

it's been 2 since last season

[topaz arch]

oohh

[unkempt dune]

I'm cool with trying later today

just ping me whenever that is

[topaz arch]

okie dokes, i have a few things to do, but if they go on longer then expected i wont be able to cuz i have work early in the morning, but ill lyk

[shy oracle]

im down too. the more people the better chances!

[topaz arch]

indeed

[floral moth]

Down

[dusk veldt]

Its gonna be alot harder, Rob said its nearly impossible to find it ._.

[topaz arch]

HAVE FAITH WE GOT THIS

[shy oracle]

I wanna say first: don't break any windows or reflective surfaces because Rob said the secrets of science. You can argue it vaguely implies that science looks like smokes and mirrors at first glance.

we might have to demat those just sayin

[topaz arch]

i think if we run a full 12 people with demats and make a plan to section of parts of the map for each round we’ll be able to find it

[topaz arch]

smart!!

i think i’ll be free tomorrow around 1530ish EST, if yall are down let me know 🙂

[shy oracle]

ah i can't ill be working 😅

[dull marsh]

We have nothing which points toward demat being the way. It could be but that's just one possibility out of... a lot

[dusk veldt]

Also doesnt it feel a bit to easy, or is it just me

[dull marsh]

Yes haha, but who knows, I'm sure there are "easy" EEs not discovered yet

It's worth a shot but I just wanted to clarify that this is just a theory, and not a fact that demat is the way

[pure loom]

I'm thinking this probably narrows it down to the museum part of the map, and maybe something to do with the displays, like the mammoth.

[clear stump]

I mean he did say somthing about the apple so it dose probably have something to do with the displays

[pure loom]

yeah, the apple might relate to the bigger Easter Egg puzzle, because the whole apple with the circle around it was a clue for New York City, but I'm not sure what the partial apple points to, or what the square means.

[crisp eagle]

So, I've never been able to get away from Sega when it comes to SYS. The apple, the hand, the apple with a bite all made me think of Genesis in the Bible when Adam and Eve saw and took (hand) the fruit and ate of it. Then of course the sign that says "Welco." Rob said the dolphins were "related to ecco" in some way. It all always has me clinging to Sega Genesis. Now he mentions the ring around the apple being important, and that has me thinking Sonic the Hedgehog. I might just be seeing what I want though.

[pure loom]

that ring idea for Sonic is a good one

[clear stump]

I mean wenever I think about an apple and science I think about the story of Issac newton finding out gravity due to an apple just falling on his head.

[crisp eagle]

June does mention Newton during the gravity events

[clear stump]

“Issac Newton would not be happy with this. Everything from contestants to grenades are going to move differently.”

[shy oracle]

You think we have to demat the entire mammoth skeleton bits that we have available? I'd like to think by doing so we can "rearrange" the skeleton by "rematerializing" 😄

[pure loom]

I was thinking maybe destroying the displays in a certain order, but it could be possible to demat the whole Mammoth - well, skull, body and scapulae - there are no legs.

The other thing that is weird in that area, is the display with deer on it, because there are massive oversized human boot prints in the dirt the deer are standing on.

[shy oracle]

ooh another trigger 👀 the whole timeline is misplaced too given that we have mammoth and deers co-living the museum floor

The heavy in me just wants to sledge the whole thing down but i need patience dang nabbit

[shy oracle]

I demat’d the bones and they unmaterialize really quickly, plus you can’t demat the scapula!

[strong flax]

Has anyone taken the rose from one practice range and brought it to someone else’s?

[crisp eagle]

I don't think that's possible

[haughty juniper]

uh, season 5 sponsor??

Trentila?

[pure loom]

none of the Easter Eggs will require us to go outside of the boundaries

[haughty juniper]

frames 1,2,3 and 5 in order in the trailer (4 was a black screen)

could it be Volpe, Vaiiya, and Trentila as the 3 sponsors for s5?

don't think it's dissun and that blue sponsor we don't have a name for yet because of that 1 black frame seperating the first 3

[dusk veldt]

Im seeing Vaiiya, Dissun and Trentila

How would Volpe be invovled?

[haughty juniper]

the first image

is volpe

[dusk veldt]

Oh yeah you are right

[haughty juniper]

the 4th image (of dissun mashed with another sponsor) appears after a black frame seperating the first 3 from it

[shy oracle]

green color is coming to The Finals?!

[haughty juniper]

finally Finalist role representation

[shy oracle]

finally! no taxation without representation!

[haughty juniper]

not sure why dissun is mashed in with this sponsor tho

maybe dissun and this sponsor will be the 2 bonus pages of the bp next season idk

[shy oracle]

maybe a joint-sponsor of some sort? that'd be interesting to see

[gloomy anvil]

Hares and jackrabbits are mammals belonging to the genus Lepus.

Leporidae includes Rabbits, Hares, and Jackrabbits and is in the order Lagomorpha

[pure loom]

I found a curious connection between Alice In Wonderland and astronomy, and one that could potentially link to the “CS” initials on the sword skin (from Season 1, iirc): https://youtu.be/pvzDPX0aGPg?si=wy9g8z3vWXL-eZgT

[pure loom]

Also, Carl Sagan was born in NYC

[gloomy anvil]

Apparently Elvis Presley was a huge Monty Python fan

According to Presley's friend Jerry Schilling, Elvis watched the Holy Grail movie almost 50 times. And his former bodyguard Sam Thompson recalled the singer dismissing shows that didn't go well with the Black Knight's line: 'It's only a flesh wound'.

[wispy edge]

I wanted a NYC map since open beta

[pure loom]

funny you mention Elvis, because this is in Carl Sagan's Wiki bio: "Like Sagan himself, the Sphinx House [Sagan's House] was visible and flamboyant––and also remote and unapproachable. ... Its spectacular seclusion drew looky-loos who might otherwise not have cared where Carl Sagan lived. Sagan's "Graceland" had a security system worthy of its Memphis counterpart."

Also, Indiana Jones: "Writing for New York magazine in 2014, Sagan's daughter described the house as "like something straight out of ancient Sumeria, or Indiana Jones—but it was not, in either case, something you'd expect to find in upstate New York."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/900_Stewart_Avenue

[solar tiger]

(I enjoy your vids)

[alpine junco]

#1290396780755943504 message

[dull marsh]

So I have done a thing which we should have done before, which is reading Alice in Wonderland

And huh... how to say that this is the common link for Level 3 activation (I think) 😄

Remember "X marks the spot"?

Chapter X

• Called "The Lobster Quadrille" (we've had a lobster on the mug, connecting to CaCO3)

• There is a gryphon (first clue of Level 2)

• There is a Turtle (potentially connected to Master Oogway?)

• They sing a song

But the snail replied 'Too far, too far!' and gave a look askance
(3HM ASCONCE)

• There is mention of a porpoise (Dolphins CETACEA), and there is a pun between porpoise/purpose (like in the Dolphin Charm description)

• Then Alice tells them her adventure, starting when she first saw the White Rabbit

• Alice tells a poem which includes an owl (related Minerva clues)

Now I'm 3 quarters of the way of Through The Looking Glass, I'm not seeing anything as obvious yet, but we'll see 🤔

The ring might be a play on word with ringtone, as the first edition of the second issue of Alice in Wonderland is also called Appleton Alice

Apple + ring = apple + tone = Appleton

His real name was Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, but for books he took the 1st parts and translated them into latin (like Linnaeus) as "Carolus Ludovicus". This was then translated back into English as "Carroll Lewis" and then reversed to make "Lewis Carroll".

[unkempt dune]

interesting idea

I call New York the "hotspot" for The American Dream

which is phone terminology and we've had that one official artwork with a phone

[dull marsh]

Another very interesting thing is that while Alice in Wonderland story is based around cards, Through The Looking-Glass is based on an actual game of chess

We've had a chessboard clue for the last 3HM

[gloomy anvil]

I went down this path too, but the 7th 3HM coordinate was I6, which isn't on the board

It could still be a general reference to chess though

[unkempt dune]

the interesting part is that I don't believe the coordinate provided was on point. not sure if that was intentionally done or not

[alpine junco]

Dont they play chess in AiW?

[dull marsh]

AND at the beginning she's talking about a game she just played, and she had a Check, but lost because of "that nasty Knight"...
Given that later in the book she is a white pawn and then a white queen, it's fairly safe to say that this should be a Black Knight

[dull marsh]

In the book the other pieces are Red, not Black, but they're equivalent

[alpine junco]

Heres the full article

https://www.chess.com/blog/introuble2/alice-through-the-looking-glass-some-chess-visual-imagination

[dull marsh]

Yes but this is the second book tho, very likely significant, but shouldn't be confused with the first one

Lewis Carroll was also a mathematician, and published some papers, including "Euclid and His Modern Rivals" (1879)

Also I explored a bit Looking Glass Studios, which is a videogame studios that made games in the 90's and is named after the book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Studios

Since Rob loves videogame history, there might be some stuff in there

[gloomy anvil]

small Arthurian reference here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Engine#DromEd

[dull marsh]

Also for the carpet the most obvious thing I can think of about that pattern is the diamond/ruby/... pattern on weapons

That makes me think mostly of "crystal"

And I found that the Jabberwocky had been influenced by the Crystal Palace Dinosaurs exhibition (that could also connect to the T-Rex)

It was around the time when Darwin's theory of evolution was starting to have a lot of effects

This actually makes a solid connection I think, first it's about RHB's socks and talking about dinosaurs, and then immediately after he talks about adding that carpet "too"

[upper mantle]

Just doing my quarterly "throw some ideas out there that may or may not have been mentioned already", sorrynotsorry:

The apple with a big ring around it: Big apple/new york? Could the apple represent the non-spherical shape of the earth, with the ring representing some alternative path like the equator, but instead moving through places of interest? Does the angle mean something? (inb4 it's just an art piece)

Dinosaur socks: is Rob connected to DICE or the battlefield series? It had a long line of dino-age easter eggs and references.

Carpet: the pattern loosely represents the shapes from Conways game of life

[dull marsh]

Don't be sorry hehe
The big apple has been mentioned, but yeah the angle of the ring could represent the tilt axis of the earth

is Rob connected to DICE? hehe.. YES

He worked on every Battlefield (up to BF5) and even created Mirror's Edge

[upper mantle]

oh god here we go

hmm... didn't the dino easter eggs stop around BF5?

[fresh quiver]

and to mention: The Big Easter-Eggs in BF4(phantom program), BF1 & BF5? (dont know the names of the other EE's)

Yeah... that was robs work

[dull marsh]

BF4 Phantom Program was led by JJJU tho... I still remember his name

[fresh quiver]

*rob supported. better? xD

[fresh quiver]

was a nice read.

On discord I found that some people found things like wells fargo which was 1852.

Alice Liddell was born in 1852, so she was ten in 1862 when the story was told, but her age in the story probably is seven

[dull marsh]

Yup, in the second book which happens exactly 6 months after the first, she is 7 years and 6 months old

[fresh quiver]

yeah. I read through this here https://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/resources/analysis/story-origins/

william could also might mean Father William
#easter-eggs message

[snow walrus]

"game"

[fresh quiver]

Looked now at the category "picture origins" on alice-in-wonderland.net
What did I found on the wiki page of Augustus Leopold Egg?

"Unlike most other members of The Clique, Egg also admired the Pre-Raphaelites; he bought work from the young William Holman Hunt and shared ideas on colour theory with him."

[dull marsh]

For reference, this is the kind of pattern I'm talking about (credits: @hard forge player card)

[dull marsh]

Alice's sister call her "little goose" (goose that laid golden eggs, yada yada)

[clever stirrup]

Jesus I thought there is actually easter eggs, like Im not talking about something hidden in a video but everything here has literally nothing to do with anything in the game. Master oogway, wonderland most out of box pictures. Damn yall in some crack.

[dull marsh]

Haha we have both, there are quite a couple of ingame EE that we've found, but there is also the big EE hunt made by Rob which... yeah it's big and confusing (until it isn't)

[hard forge]

There are different types of Easter Eggs

We also have an ongoing ARG on since 2021.

@clever stirrup link to our collective findings https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVK0idxbU=/?moveToWidget=3458764596714583146&cot=14

[snow walrus]

Moon also a part of AIW world

[dull marsh]

Crystal Palace reference in 1985 AiW game

There is like a bush T-Rex in the game too lol

Oh and it's at the entrance of the Crystal Palace

[pure loom]

"best known for his modern triptych Past and Present" - maybe the past, present and future reference that Rob pointed to after we found the NYC path?

[dull marsh]

We've had some "rule of third" clues and Lewis Carrolls was a photographer, and did take pictures of Alice Liddell

[queen rain]

Do we know what cns stands for?

[dull marsh]

Biggest lead for now is Central Nervous System, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is another bigger meaning to it

[queen rain]

K