easter-eggs

[balmy fog]

If I type it ''WAWA''

it'll say ''WAWA'' LayerText

Bascially, its the layer duplicated X amount of times

[hasty anvil]

I dont understand it, but im with you haha

[balmy fog]

Ok wait

[hasty anvil]

the MIT scheme pattern is a match

[balmy fog]

Let me exaplin

[sharp flame]

10 layers called "W"

then?

[balmy fog]

b2,r,lsb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 16 times]
b2,r,msb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 12 times]
b2,rgb,lsb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 48 times]
b2,rgb,msb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 36 times]
b2,rgba,lsb,Yx .. text: ["W" repeated 8 times]
b2,abgr,msb,Yx .. text: ["W" repeated 8 times]

[hasty anvil]

is it like there are 10 'W' in the image?

[balmy fog]

b2,r,lsb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 16 times] → 16 text layers ''U'' with that exact scale and size inside the image
b2,r,msb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 12 times] → 12 text layers ''U'' with that exact scale and size inside the image
b2,rgb,lsb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 48 times] → 48 text layers ''U'' with that exact scale and size inside the image
b2,rgb,msb,Yx .. text: ["U" repeated 36 times] → 36 text layers ''U'' with that exact scale and size inside the image
b2,rgba,lsb,Yx .. text: ["W" repeated 8 times] → 8 text layers ''W'' with that exact scale and size inside the image
b2,abgr,msb,Yx .. text: ["W" repeated 8 times]

and so on

[sharp flame]

ohh you got text layers?

damn

[balmy fog]

It's basically the history of the photoshop file

[sharp flame]

that's a lot of Us haha

[timid pebble]

b6,r,msb,xy,prime .. text: "uUUuUWUU" UwU 😆

[quaint wing]

I found that in the data online, didn't know how to interpret it.

[sharp flame]

Rob is a .. uhh...

[quaint wing]

Thanks for explaining that

[hasty anvil]

RDI Acoustic Doppler Current Profiler (ADCP) = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Doppler_current_profiler

[balmy fog]

so

What I say is

We extract the only text with only one letters

I was saying I tought it could be ''C-A-N Y-O-U R-E-A-C-H T-H-E F-I-N-A-L-S''

[hasty anvil]

im already looking at the whole words we have

[balmy fog]

not words

search for letters

[hasty anvil]

i think these are clues to the golden clues

b3p,abgr,lsb,xy .. file: MIT scheme (library?)

like this line points to MIT scheme

[balmy fog]

Ye

[hasty anvil]

you have given us hope haha

[balmy fog]

Man im so happy lmao

[hard current]

good stuff @balmy fog how’d you pull the history of the file?!

[balmy fog]

Zsteg

[hasty anvil]

you must've seen that and felt so relieved

[balmy fog]

You have no idea

when I saw UwU

I was like

oh Rob

I got you

[hasty anvil]

thread might be good

[balmy fog]

b4,rgb,msb,XY .. text: "U533SUU53"

could somebody translate this?

UR EE SUURE?

[hasty anvil]

USEESUUSE

this is leet but might be wrong

use esu use?

[timid pebble]

How can this even be present in the file? I don't get it.

[hard current]

U+533 = Գ armenian capital letter gim

[timid pebble]

I'm looking at the description of it and it makes no sens to be included as a file to a png??

[hasty anvil]

in this theres a line: b5p,abgr,msb,xy .. file: RDI Acoustic Doppler Current Profiler (ADCP)

[balmy fog]

don't dig too deep for now

[quaint wing]

You can hide anything in a file

[balmy fog]

maybe the answer is actually easier than watching profiles

[timid pebble]

One of ADCP utilities: Modelling fish egg and larval fish dispersal in lakes and rivers where cooling-water intake entrainment is a risk

Maybe the golden egg is Caviar 😆

[hasty anvil]

just to summarise before rabbit holeing, its used to measure water current velocites with doppler effect and sound waves

[balmy fog]

Don't dig into profiles for now

try to find l33t messages inside the .txt

[pure loom]

I used the Darker blend mode. Then moving the top layer around

[timid solstice]

What is happening

[hasty anvil]

this

[balmy fog]

also

This is only Zsteg in black ?

imagedata .. file: VAX-order 68k Blit mpx/mux executable
b4,rgba,lsb,xy .. text: "fofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofo"
b4,abgr,msb,xy .. text: "ofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofof"

[timid solstice]

Could this be the history of how layers were moved around

It’s too much text

Also what image are you looking at? Ha

[balmy fog]

The white ?

Nah the symbols on the white ? were full of random texts

per example

b2,rgb,msb,xy,prime .. file: VISX image file
b2,abgr,msb,xy,prime.. text: ["W" repeated 10 times]

one layer of an image being added
W being repeated 10 times (with the same scale/size)

[hasty anvil]

is there a way to remove these layers on the image?

[balmy fog]

nope

we'd have to have the whole psd image

as example of this SS

[hasty anvil]

ahhhh ok

[balmy fog]

rob probably did this

b2,abgr,msb,yx .. text: ["W" repeated 8 times] means W→is 8 times repeated with the same exact size/scale

[sharp flame]

why are there like 50+ layers then

and also what does the black image look like with this then

[hasty anvil]

black image is this : #easter-eggs message

[balmy fog]

wdym

[sharp flame]

all the repeated layers means there must be like tens of them

[balmy fog]

basically is like this

[sharp flame]

yeah so like 50 layers

[balmy fog]

probably more than 50

i was wrong in the letter choices but

this is 1/8th of the image

and look how many letters I could foresee behind the SCHEME patterns

[sharp flame]

"vvvvunvwumnmnnedd][[[b[[ZRZZRIQ@HGG???7?M=.>-=-%-$" is such a weird thing to name a layer

takes so long to do as well

[balmy fog]

he didn't name it that way

it names itself once you input the text in the image

[sharp flame]

haha well then what I mean is

crazy thing to name it

[balmy fog]

oh yea

for sure

[sharp flame]

does it get named after the initial text?

[balmy fog]

yea

[sharp flame]

or the latest text you type in it

[balmy fog]

it changes whenever you change the text

[sharp flame]

I mean on the "History"

[balmy fog]

it's link

what's in the history is the text shown on image

[sharp flame]

ahh k so the final version

[balmy fog]

yep

[sharp flame]

does it show folders too or nah?

[balmy fog]

nah I dont think so

b3,rgba,lsb,YX,prime.. text: "IrOIy'IrOm"

this one caught my attention

[sharp flame]

could you try saving this file and trying the method?

to see if all the layers get captured accurately?

[balmy fog]

yep

[sharp flame]

oo post results

[balmy fog]

actually no

can someone make a dumb photo on photoshop

and send me jph

jpg

cuz im not using photoshop

with random text

plz

[sharp flame]

Join the not-having-photoshop club!

[balmy fog]

I do have it but im at work lol

[sharp flame]

(temporary member)

[balmy fog]

what's rob full name?

for curiosity

[quaint wing]

Saint Rob

But also the wiki page says Runesson.

[coral wing]

Rob runesson

[hidden nacelle]

Robert Runesson

[pure loom]

To me this steps totally outside our own rules around where we search for answers. I don’t think we should be trying to solve it this way.

[hasty anvil]

i think youve accidentally found files in the png we need to extract lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography

Steganography is the practice of representing information within another message or physical object, in such a manner that the presence of the information is not evident to human inspection. In computing/electronic contexts, a computer file, message, image, or video is concealed within another file, message, image, or video.

[neon stream]

100% agree. We are here to solve puzzles, not to find answers. Looking at things like this that spoil the puzzles are not part of what we do here 😅

[hasty anvil]

I think it was accidental

[jade citrus]

I'm still not even sure what I'm looking at in those messages, seems like a bunch of pointless gibberish idk

[hard current]

yeah that’s where I’m at I’m not even sure it leads to anything

[hasty anvil]

Also, for anyone not on photoshop, in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078 it recommends a website (Stegonline). If you upload the tion.png to it, you can find the symbols easier there.

[hard current]

why would the tion file have a bunch of “clues” in that manner but not the ques file makes me think it could be what smashel said, gibberish?

[hasty anvil]

I've found what we are looking at without photoshop now

[hard current]

edit: we need rob lol

[coarse dagger]

I feel like Rob would've stripped this if he didn't want us to look at it? It's not hard to stip....

[coarse dagger]

I think @proud minnow would be the one who needs to weigh in

[jade citrus]

Rob has mentioned before that no real clues would be hidden in metadata

[balmy fog]

Steg is hidden values in an image that you encode that way, a normal JPG cannot be Steg has there’s no value to be found since there’s nothing encoded

I personally think Rob wanted us to find the steg

I just made a dummy jpg image with bunch of words and then nothing showed up when I tried to Zsteg it

The only way you can find values in a Zsteg is if it’s encoded

As this says

Steg

[hasty anvil]

i found this on ques.png

using stegonline

I agree that i think steg is the way, and its recommended

[sharp flame]

we've been looking at image metadata before, to be fair, and Rob's been hiding clues in that before

[coarse dagger]

Zsteg is also a tool like Jsteg but it is used to detect LSB steganography only in the case of PNG and BMP images.
@balmy fog is right.
This is NOT extracting metadata from the image. Rob EXPORTED metadata (maybe), then HID the metadata in the image using LSB steganography

@pure loom

[balmy fog]

I've tried to decode an JPG image I did myself with bunch of text layers, then have it go thru the Zsteg and nothing came out, to find any text values it would have to be ENCODED in the matter of it

then decoded

[coarse dagger]

detect stegano-hidden data in PNG & BMP

The compression in JPEGs will likely kill LSB steg

[balmy fog]

Oh my b

I dont know all the terms

but yeah, that's my 2 cents '' Rob EXPORTED metadata, then HID the metadata in the image using LSB steganography''

so

I might've been wrong

I think what we see is what Rob encoded in the image for us

it is not literal replications of the text layers

[tulip matrix]

[pure loom]

From what I read my understanding was that the photoshop history for the file was looked at, which made it possible to see an action Rob took making the file, is that not correct?

[coarse dagger]

Wait, I'm confused... T3 images are JPEG?

Here's what I get when I try to run zsteg on them...

[tulip matrix]

I wonder if they are highly compressed jpeg because they don't need to be high quality because there's nothing to find

[balmy fog]

Zsteg is png and Jsteg is jpg I think @coarse dagger

[sharp flame]

If there's one thing I'm sure about, there is def clues in these images 😭

[balmy fog]

b5,r,msb,Xy .. text: "3F)e\pJ(" this one got my eye

[sharp flame]

Don't think Rob would ever release an image without anything hidden, especially a tier-ending image

[balmy fog]

3F)e\pJ(

3Fe0pJ9?

[hasty anvil]

i really think using stegonline and trying to extract files is the way forward

[balmy fog]

No that's my bad, poor description

[hasty anvil]

we know the files are there now

[coarse dagger]

I'm trying to replicate @balmy fog's results, but if he's correct in what he's doing and is using JSTEG to extract that output, then no.

[sharp flame]

Just wait for Rob to comment on that stuff honestly

cause either it's mastermind clue-hiding or an unintentional shortcut haha

[coarse dagger]

Hmm

[timid solstice]

He has mentioned there are other “tools” to find hidden things

[pure loom]

Yeah, this sounds like a grey area. I never look at any of the data parts when using Stegonline to avoid stepping outside our own “rules”

[hard current]

do you have that message

[coarse dagger]

Again, if @balmy fog is correct the only way this could've gotten there is if Rob hid it

[hasty anvil]

has rob specifically said what we cant do, or is it our own rules?

aside from the obvious brute forcing passwords, etc

[hard current]

no brute forcing, and a long running joke that rob wouldn’t hide clues in metadata after a funny incident early on, tho if people looked at the metadata in past clues they’d still find funny (note: not clues iirc) messages from rob every now and then

[hasty anvil]

i think he knows someone will end up looking

[hard current]

yeah but it’d go against the status quo for him to hide something in metadata in the final tier

[coarse dagger]

I can't seem to replicate these results with JSTEG

[hard current]

not that I even fully understand if what @balmy fog is metadata or not

tho if I remember correctly, steganography is not metadata, it’s things hidden in images

[pure loom]

Exactly. I’d be surprised if he did that because he knows we’d need to break our own rules to solve it.

[pure loom]

In which case we should be able to find them by image manipulation

[hard current]

well not exactly, steganogrpahy is more of a tech way of hiding things, not layers

[hasty anvil]

i think steganography is the way, we just skipped some steps

[coarse dagger]

Using the example JSTEG encoded image from the JSTEG documentation I can replicate their results:
https://wiki.bi0s.in/steganography/jsteg/

I cannot replicate your output @balmy fog .
Idk what utility you used, but I don't think the ouput it gave you is actually from JSTEG.

Again.........

If the results actually came from JSTEG this IS NOT looking at the image's metadata.

I currently suspect this output IS NOT from JSTEG.

[sharp flame]

we had metadata rules?

[solar glade]

i was the one that made the tools list, and in fact, that infographic. those tools are not really brute force, and i only recommended them because of previous ARGs i participated/developed

usually when used, clues will appear rather easily — because they were meant to be found that way by the creator (same applies with metadata). if you can’t replicate something or it looks just too complex/random, chances are there’s nothing there — esp. if you can’t pinpoint the clues or connect them to existing ones

just wanted to comment that. anyway, carry on. glhf

[sharp flame]

cause Rob's been hiding stuff in metadata for a while anyways

with the "layer name" stuff we've been seeing already

[hasty anvil]

I think it would be a problem if Rob asked us to not do certain things, otherwise I feel like he plans it

[coarse dagger]

Trying to find mention of this, but Discord search is failing me....

In other news I wish I had seen this post earlier

[sharp flame]

Rob has mentioned before if we've been "overextending", a.k.a when we've been looking for clues when there wasn't

like here

[pure loom]

Yeah, so the full story is: in the very first clue (the samurai “slash” image) the words “Devon crossing” were in the metadata which Duhmeister discovered because he didn’t know about not looking there. Rob didn’t realise they were in there and also probably didn’t think that most people in the hunt wouldn’t know rules like this, which stem from Battlefield EE days. After that the metadata became a joke place for Rob to essentially tease us about looking in there and we also established the rules - no brute-forcing passwords and no looking at file data that shows us anything that only Rob should know - photoshop file history would definitely fall into that, for instance. The metadata became kind of the boundary line (or the gap between what we can and can’t look at more accurately) because of Rob’s jokes etc in there.

[hasty anvil]

that makes sense

[sharp flame]

I read Rob's initial messages a while ago, don't think I found that!

maybe it's actually a Rob react

[pure loom]

There were a few DMs between us so those of us (me and Duh probably) aware of all this could suggest the rules.

[sharp flame]

Thanks for this! I think this should also really be in the egg-hunt-info

[pure loom]

It is in my video

Why you no watch 😭

[sharp flame]

haven't watched it since it came out 😭

do people usually rewatch vids like that 😭??

[pure loom]

It’s not in cinemas anymore you’ll have to stream it

[sharp flame]

I would've had to be in a low place to review the Beginners' guide again

[pure loom]

I watch it myself sometimes. #lowplacesarelikehome

[sharp flame]

@fallen jasper adding Metadata to the egg-hunt-info pile would be nice :)

wonder if Rob's just muted this chat so he can detox or something.. like he promised he would not help this tier..

[pure loom]

I agree. With more victims people joining, the rules need to be very up front

[sharp flame]

better safe than sorry

[sharp flame]

but yeah Rockhound you can see why these (nearly) blank images lead us to look at the metadata or something else 😭

[pure loom]

He’s probably busy to be fair

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-to-resist-irresistible-tempting-seductive-katherine-langford-gif-15629128

[fallen jasper]

"Do not look at file data that shows us anything that only Rob should know - photoshop file history, etc." ?

[sharp flame]

is that you pointing out it's already there, or a draft of what to put in

[pure loom]

Maybe add - if in doubt ask

[fallen jasper]

Draft

[sharp flame]

haha

[fallen jasper]

I wanna double check the EE related rules with the people actually doing anything with the EE hunt before I add things in

[pure loom]

Add: thou shalt wait until NamaTama images turn up before trying too hard

[balmy fog]

Soooooooo

[sharp flame]

"It's agreed that metadata of the images do not contain intentional clues, and so shouldn't be accessed; photoshop file history, layer names, etc."

[balmy fog]

Do we look at it or no?

I extracted these infos from an image analyzer tool online

It's not a program I wrote lol

[sharp flame]

probably not 😭, but it's fine that you did. now we know there are CLUES in there 👀 ❤️

now we need to find them by actually analysing the image hahaha

[pure loom]

Yeah, and I think add to that, if you’re unsure if you might be close to breaking the rules just ask

[balmy fog]

https://www.aperisolve.com/

[balmy fog]

''Aperi'Solve is an online platform which performs layer analysis on image. The platform also uses zsteg, steghide, outguess, exiftool, binwalk, foremost and strings for deeper steganography analysis. The platform supports the following images format: .png, .jpg, .gif, .bmp, .jpeg, .jfif, .jpe, .tiff...''

[pure loom]

Or work out if there’s an area we can look along these lines

[sharp flame]

• If you're unsure you might be close to breaking the rules, just ask!" put that a line break below

[balmy fog]

I don't think steganography is cheating tho....

I've watched that .txt file

Like I said

[pure loom]

Yeah, so I think we need an explanation of it

[fallen jasper]

[balmy fog]

I've taken a random .jpg I have made, with multiplate text layers and used it in aperi'solve

It gave me nothing

but

the jpg from rob

[pure loom]

Hahaha

[balmy fog]

gives me something

why?

I don't think this is breaking the rules

I think this is intended

[sharp flame]

did you save it multiple times across multiple devices, and did you turn off file optimisation etc. ?

[balmy fog]

I did the exercise with multiple images

even #official-art images

and none of them were positive finds

all of them wrote this:

[pure loom]

And was the Photoshop history not what was being revealed?

[balmy fog]

It's not a photoshop history

It's embedded message inside an image

[sharp flame]

go on

[pure loom]

Ah ok. Gotcha

[balmy fog]

all of them said this :

but

[sharp flame]

lol

[balmy fog]

the one from ? images

[pure loom]

And there’s no other way this could possibly be revealed?

[sharp flame]

Rockhound Steg messages are intentionally hidden ones

[balmy fog]

I dont think so

I tried to watch via the strings

and even extract them into different paths

but never came close too

plus

[turbid tinsel]

that or there to many people participating for him to look over hundreds of messages.

[balmy fog]

here's an other 2 cents

[fallen jasper]

Did you get the ? images from a discord copy or the one hosted on Squarespace?

[pure loom]

Yeah, I get that. I’m just trying to understand it fully 👍

[balmy fog]

squarespace

So

Right look at this

This was an A I decoded

I am 100% sure it's an A

But

in the Zsteg

[fallen jasper]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/62d66fa29e72c560f8efc020/cac370a9-8940-4e3b-a230-2a0c1cd1c485/X.png?format=1500w See if this picks up anything on Zsteg

[balmy fog]

there's no mention of A text layers

[sharp flame]

still on the fence about that one 😭

[fallen jasper]

I think you're just picking up data that got removed when you upload things to discord that aren't removed on squarespace images

[balmy fog]

It gives me the regular string

[pure loom]

Yeah, that’s where I thought overlapped images might complete the letters

[fallen jasper]

Damn

[balmy fog]

Nah

There's hidden text that correlates some clues we've had

this per example: "?3?3?3?3?3?3?3?3"

and again

file: MIT scheme

gave us the actual symbols

Also

the evidence

The gold ? with black background if it was a PHOTOSHOP HISTORY, I shall have seen the importation of an image or an ? but it's only this:

imagedata .. file: VAX-order 68k Blit mpx/mux executable
b4,rgba,lsb,xy .. text: "fofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofo"
b4,abgr,msb,xy .. text: "ofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofof"

No mentions at all of img or file nor ? text layer

[coarse dagger]

I get way less output in this field, and the field being called ZSTEG (which doesn't work on JPEGs) makes me think aperisolve isn't accurately describing what that output is....

[balmy fog]

b5p,r,msb,XY .. text: "`goooooooo"

[coarse dagger]

Andddd aperisolve doesn't seem to be working on a file I KNOW had data hidden with JSTEG:

It just "loads" forever:

And I've installed JSTEG on my machine and can extract the string from this image:
#easter-eggs message

But not from tfee_tion.jpeg

[balmy fog]

if you find hidden values in the image

that means it has been encoded for us to find

[coarse dagger]

I don't

[balmy fog]

scan this

[normal spruce]

every time i look through this chat it feels like a bunch of hackers discussing their next move

[balmy fog]

if

we follow what we say

we would be supposed to see a bunch of text layers

LIKE PER EXAMPLE

b4,rgb,msb,xy .. text: ["A" repeated 24 times]

but we don't

To encode something in an image you have to manually do it

[sharp flame]

loaded up old images, these things are in all of them

[balmy fog]

then let's explain this

b3p,abgr,lsb,xy .. file: MIT scheme (library?)

how this

would lead straight to the patterns we have

on the actual image

[sharp flame]

here is another one

this is from T1B

the first one was from T1D

[coarse dagger]

Cool. What i'm saying is I don't think the output you're getting from aperisolve is actually hidden using JSTEG/ZSTEG

[balmy fog]

Oh that I don't know

But I know it has to be encoded some way

because you can't just open the .jpg in .txt format and see this

b5p,rgb,lsb,xy .. text: ["v" repeated 16 times]

Photoshop history would give us positions and actual movements

and clicks

[sharp flame]

more fun

wow loads of 3s here, must be connected

[hard current]

don’t you normally need a key when it comes to steganography in order to access that stuff?

[sharp flame]

(that's T1A btw)

[coarse dagger]

No password is also an option

[hard current]

ah ok gotcha

[balmy fog]

no pw is blank

[sharp flame]

look if this works on the older images and still turns up the exact same random text then I don't think it actually illicits anything intentional

[coarse dagger]

In order to understand if it was intentionally hidden we have to understand where it came from.

[balmy fog]

b3p,abgr,lsb,xy .. file: MIT scheme (library?) either this is pure randomness

or it was hidden

[coarse dagger]

Or it was metadata Rob never intended for us to see

[balmy fog]

It can't be metadata because you cannot metadata an image that isnt encoded!!!!!!!!!

That's what im saying

You'd have to encode something INTO an image already made

[hard current]

there’s a difference between metadata and an image/file/text hidden inside an image

steganography does not equal metadata

[coarse dagger]

Agreed 100%

[quaint wing]

All you're doing is taking stuff, and hiding it within the bytes of the image. Doesn't change the image, but it does add some stuff to the background

[coarse dagger]

I'm saying I can't verify the output that @balmy fog is getting is from steg

[sharp flame]

steganography also does not equal Things that we are supposed to find

[hard current]

yeah agreed @coarse dagger if we put past clues in there and get the same randomness my bet is that it’s not of value

[sharp flame]

I will guess this is not "intentional"

but you never know

[balmy fog]

b3p,abgr,lsb,xy .. file: MIT scheme (library?) then this is random and basically gave us what is the pattern we were looking at

[sharp flame]

all I know is that there are clues hidden in the actual image's pixels which we CAN find, and those WILL help

[hard current]

Has it been established that steg is not to be used? if it has then that’s my bad I am still pretty new to this ee community:) I’ve used it in past ee’s for other stuff

[hasty anvil]

steg is in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078

[sharp flame]

at the beginning we agreed not to look into the image's data

[hard current]

yeahhhh but the thing is there’s an argument to be made over what is data/metadata vs what isn’t

steg probably sits very comfortably right in both

[coarse dagger]

OHEY! IT FINALLY LOADED!
Yeah this is definately not JSTEG/ZTEG.
Here's what was actually hidden using JSTEG:
Jsteg is used for JPEG steganaography.
and here's the output on aperisolve:

So yeah it's bullshit

[sharp flame]

language 😭

[sharp flame]

it's 100% data of an image in my eyes

[hard current]

@balmy fog it was a good place to run to but probably gibberish:/

[hard current]

fair:) I think next time we see Rob we should def ask for clarification on steganography

[sharp flame]

maybe he'll be silent until this whole tier is over..

[balmy fog]

Well

Atleast we got the MIT SCHEME out of randomness?????

[hard current]

He might be.. guess we’ll have to keep looking!!

[balmy fog]

I am pretty sure it is Steghide

and not Zsteg/Jsteg

[sharp flame]

MIT has a lot of open tech things which have been used https://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/

especially in conjunction with photoshop and jpg/png files

[balmy fog]

these patterns

on that book

correlates to the patterns I watched for hours

I don't know why but they do

In our patterns you see a bunch of 25 facing each others like mirrored, you see the same on that book cover with R

[sharp flame]

all we know is that the image is divided into 8x8 pixel blocks

with blocks that repeat frequently

[sharp flame]

I think that version puts them in a very strange way

creates outlines that aren't there

[balmy fog]

wha?

[sharp flame]

like obviously this is not what it looks like in the actual image

there are hard outlines and brighter pixels

[balmy fog]

The lines are letters behind

[sharp flame]

bro 😭

[balmy fog]

the brighter pixels is on top with low opacity wich creates this

[sharp flame]

I'm saying it's not like that in the actual image

[balmy fog]

Yes?!?!

[sharp flame]

there are no hard outlines

if you get what I mean? @balmy fog

[balmy fog]

og image with totally nothing and image with curves and gamma adjutment

[sharp flame]

yeah there are loads of symbols like that

[balmy fog]

the only thing the filter does is outline everything he sees

[sharp flame]

yeah exactly

[balmy fog]

and you put the detail to extreme

but it doesn't create stuff

that is what I am saying

it simply changes the color of stuff

[sharp flame]

meaning it's easier to highlight patterns which aren't exactly there tho

[balmy fog]

so this is created

by photoshop

[sharp flame]

can you let me know where that is in the image if at all possible?

just like zooming out and circling it or something

[sharp flame]

k now zoom out to the whole thing:

[sharp flame]

thanks!

[balmy fog]

5 mixed with a 2

that is everywhere

on the image

is photoshop created too

or these binary too

[balmy fog]

or the same EXACT Y from you being seen lots of places

[sharp flame]

this tile

[balmy fog]

Look

You can believe me or not

Im saying

[balmy fog]

We've never worked with pure images like this

we've always had lots of treshold applied or some sort of changes

[sharp flame]

yep yep but the shapes of letters and symbols before did not need highlights, they simply came out. but Rob might be stepping up his game here.

[sharp flame]

obviously it's better for EVERYONE if you're right though. keep looking. but I will try and decipher the whole symbol alphabet in the meantime, even if that might be impossible hahaha

[balmy fog]

this was browse bitlanes on StegOnline

wich correllates 100%

to the one I have

altough mine is a tad more precise upper right

[sharp flame]

holy crap this is perfect

just went and tried a similar thing with the "superimposed" mode

this is a near-perfect grid

[balmy fog]

take this

and put it in front of mine

and lower the opacity

its the same thing

[sharp flame]

yeah I just needed something which showed the whole grid

without interference from the gradient nor the Qstn. mark

[sharp flame]

👍

[balmy fog]

altough this is extrememly accurate with everything, even more accurate then what I had

[sharp flame]

k mine doesn't do that but cool either way

[balmy fog]

wym?

[sharp flame]

Mine is just black and white

[balmy fog]

No I know

I put my pattern behind

and then overlayed what you linked

[sharp flame]

ahhh

[balmy fog]

It fits perfectly

so both are good to use

but the black and white version is better for seeing the actual negative space

ie:

[balmy fog]

• we know that's an M so it can't be ''Can you reach the Finals'' so my theory with that is dead in the water

[jagged ore]

Seems like there was a big discussion about the meta data. But honestly just saying meta data might be to vague anyway. Technically the creation date for example is meta data. But there is no way we were not supposed to see it

[balmy fog]

also this is A in latin

[balmy fog]

I think we will need Rob to actually decide

First, was it accurate

secondly was it intended

thirdly can we use it

#easter-eggs message

@proud minnow

[jagged ore]

Yeah of course. But I just think it might have to be a little more specific than just "meta data yes or no". Since the information in meta data can vary vastly

But yeah at the end of the day Rob just has to tell us if this was too much or not

[sharp flame]

much clearer to discern the "grid" now

and since this is all black and white pixels.. we can codeify it!

[hard current]

yo I actually see the grid now

[formal moon]

you guys are this much just to go insane XD

[jagged ore]

Did you find out what kind of patterns these are supposed to be?

[hard current]

maybe the real pattern is the friends we made along the way (no)

[formal moon]

looks like a big QR code for me XD

[ruby nymph]

QR code

[sharp flame]

yep!!

[balmy fog]

depends, we're all hard-headed hunters, sometimes we hate eachothers, but sometimes we love each others

like 15 minutes ago I wanted to fight fish

now im glad he still me fwen

[sharp flame]

oh.. :s

just because I didn't see it don't mean I hate u or anything <3

[balmy fog]

I know

It's actually better that way cuz we both push each others to actually validate our findings

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-21732737

that's what fwen are for

let's solve this shit now im tired

Pretty sure there's a simpler way to select all the pixels instead of going one by one @sharp flame

how many pixelsxpixels is one square

[sharp flame]

8x8

it's pretty clear there's some sort of grid of symbols

[jagged ore]

That's gonna be a lot of pixels💀

[hard current]

send image I’ll try to see if I can separate it all into 8x8

nevermind bokb got it:)

[balmy fog]

png w transparent bg

[jagged ore]

Okay hear me out. What if instead of trying to find what the patterns mean, they are just supposed to represent a brightness values for a lower res image🤔

Like each 8x8 being one pixel

Because if you look at it from far away it does kinda look like there is something hidden in there

[balmy fog]

Shades of gray

I think

I think there has to be a way to use the 2 images at once

[hard current]

ques and tion

would make sense

maybe overlay them and said opacity at 50%

then do bit planes?

[balmy fog]

Tried that

The black images has nothing in background

So it’s just solid black

If we go into the meaning of gold you have to find it, I mean, gold doesn’t grow on trees so what I mean by that is searching for it

Maybe there’s a way to use the gold question mark on the planes

[jagged ore]

I'm gonna start writing a small program to try this out

[jagged ore]

can you maybe send me the "raw" version of this without the red lines?

[sharp flame]

tried to parse as many as I could before I got bored

it's definitely a symbol grid, and loads of the symbols are inverses or rotations of each other

[pure loom]

that thick line is similar to where I have this grid marked

[remote terrace]

Aren't some of these on the C64 keyboard cursor/painter thingy?

From a while back

[sharp flame]

I genuinely think the amount of unique symbols in there is <30

[balmy fog]

I just used a png image for the grid

[sharp flame]

was definitely something we were trying to look at earlier

[balmy fog]

It’s because it overlaps @pure loom

It was made by me not the image

[sharp flame]

I'm not good enough to code this but I know there are people here who are

so I need help

[pure loom]

the one I posted you mean?

[balmy fog]

The grid is mine made with overlapping png images from google

[pure loom]

which grid - mine or yours?

[sharp flame]

his

[pure loom]

ok, well there is a grid there anyway

faintly visible in this one

plus the faint sloping lines like a forward slash

[sharp flame]

I definitely see it

[balmy fog]

Use the planes image tho

[pure loom]

I think the forward slashes and the ? relate - a "shift" is required to go from a / to a ?

[sharp flame]

Need help - parsing the grid of symbols

[pure loom]

oh right, I think I understand now

[sharp flame]

man the symbols seems like a gargantuan task without automation

but it's obviously solvable

I just hope we have someone with the skills™️ hahaha

since it's black and white it could be done by parsing the image into
strings of 64 1's and 0's, one for each pixel

[balmy fog]

That’ll take forever @sharp flame

[sharp flame]

code which goes through each 8x8 and notes down if its new, or counts it if it's not

[balmy fog]

Also has to flip it to make sure

And rotate

[sharp flame]

no need, worst case we'll have 8x the symbols we need

[balmy fog]

True

[sharp flame]

maybe the flip and rotate ones are different letters

[balmy fog]

🥲

Walk in the park huh

[sharp flame]

I mean... yeah?

it's just 1 clue without any rabbitholing yet

maybe it gives us the psw, who knows 🤣

[sharp flame]

if we solve it in the next week it'll be the shortest recent tier

[balmy fog]

Is there a tool online for image similarities?

[sharp flame]

maybe I'll just ask one of my coding buddies

hahaha

[balmy fog]

Okkkk

[sharp flame]

anyway in the meantime

let's start rabbit holing again

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox–Zucker_machine

[balmy fog]

That seems deep af

I’m afraid to click on it lmao

[sharp flame]

it is

[hard current]

[balmy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[balmy fog]

Jésus

[sharp flame]

see? wikipedia can be fun too 😭

I will say though unironically the EE hunt is so vast now that this is a genuine connection

[jagged ore]

yeah so this was a dead end

[sharp flame]

that does look v. interesting though

I already observed some striking lines going diagonally

those White squares and Black squares have that large scale stripe formation

[sharp flame]

looks like a low-res image of Saturn's rings or something

[pure loom]

I'm wondering if we can build a QR code out of the overlapped images? That would also link well with the / through the image

[jagged ore]

oh wait this is also the inverse. I should count the white pixels instead of the black ones

[sharp flame]

also very possibly

wouldn't fit with the 8x8 grid idea but would be it's own thing to look out for

[hard current]

I think @balmy fog tried the overlapping images thing but said it goes nowhere because ques image has nothing on it

[sharp flame]

since the 8x8 symbol grid is a different scale to QR

[pure loom]

I mean using at least two layers of the "tion" image

[jagged ore]

This would be more accurate but still seems useless

[pure loom]

maybe "ques" comes into part 2 of the solution

[sharp flame]

solu tion

tionques ?

[pure loom]

so looking for a part that can be converted into this for a start

we should also consider inverting them at the start

[sharp flame]

if the code outputs any type of square shape like that we should totally go for it

as Rob has hidden QRs before

[jagged ore]

also the "symbols" become way less recognizable and more granular the further down right we go into the image

[turbid tinsel]

am i the only one who can't find robs walk in the park message in the discord anymore?

search isnt showing it anymore

[hard current]

I couldn’t find it anymore a couple days ago

[turbid tinsel]

wonder if he deleted it because it was leading us the wrong way

[sharp flame]

??

[turbid tinsel]

oh i thought it was posted recently

my bad

[sharp flame]

december 2022 :)

lmfao

[turbid tinsel]

well if its supposed the be a walk in the park isnt all of this a bit much work?

[hard current]

yes

but nobody else has any leads 😦

[jagged ore]

he did post one after the last tier was solved but yeah looks like he deleted it

because I remeber him saying it again

[sharp flame]

not really.. there aren't side paths or secondary clues..

in fact we only really have 1 clue on the grill at the moment

[sharp flame]

by walk in the park he means straightforward I think as well

[jagged ore]

#easter-eggs message this message by rob is edited btw

[turbid tinsel]

rob used "one" quite a bit last tier, not sure if that was supposed to get us to move to VI for 6, but if so wouldnt this password be roman numeral related again?

[jagged ore]

Just leaving the link to my python script here in case we need that in the future https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1F8Bb1QD-9HZ5aftkYV2DDhMw2WVoNoIk?usp=sharing

[pure loom]

QR codes can have up to 177 by 177 pixels

[sharp flame]

not as bad as our image.. 1149 pixels 😭

so much info to parse...

but @coarse dagger is on it. ❤️

[pure loom]

a walk in a very large park

[turbid tinsel]

did we ever relate anything to rob liking the numbers 6000666?

[sharp flame]

1000111 is G in binary

[turbid tinsel]

ahh kk

[sharp flame]

obviously it's 6s instead of 1s, and so 6 instead of G

(and then vi, but we didn't have that brain capacity yet 😭)

[jagged ore]

🎵like a G6🎵

[pure loom]

This is 6 layers overlapped using the "subtract" blend mode. There is a curious void, almost a circle shape on the left side which is completely empty of lit pixels compared to the other areas.

Also, having done this, I can see that it would be possible to actually form a star map with multiple layers on top of one another in exactly the right position.

hmmm... adding a 7th layer in really starts to form more voids, so maybe it's just where a lot of the darker areas are coinciding

[coarse dagger]

Yeah I think you're just revealing the darker portions of the gradient

[pure loom]

I feel like if the layer thing is the right path - we need some clue to tell us how many layers and their positions.

Having said that, it would be very easy for Rob to have used that technique to hide an image or words/numbers or a QR code in the image

You'd just draw what you wanted to be in there pixel by pixel over multiple layers - colour those pixels and then mess with each layer's pixels in whatever way you wanted (make the little patterns etc) being careful not to delete any of the coloured pixels, and then flatten the image

[ripe cloud]

Ive been crossviewing the image and I feel like layers is the way to go (as a cross view is basically two layers). Hard to really study my way, though, as my eyes get tired and are by nature out of focus to view it this way.

I swear theres a schooner in there somewhere

[turbid tinsel]

what if the question marks are actually supposed to be inverted question marks?

[faint rivet]

I’m just curious if the answer is still GoldEgg related

[ripe cloud]

whats the golden question? whether the chicken or the egg came first. Boom. Solved

[pure loom]

I have tried turning them upside down and messing with them as layers, but didn't seem to gain anything that way

[turbid tinsel]

becuase in spanish they use 2, one upside down to start and another regular at the end

[pure loom]

maybe the gold one contains clues to how we manipulate the layers in the white one

if it does, they are well hidden

[pure loom]

yeah, the problem is the gold one doesn't have a grid like the white one - there's just no obvious clues in it

the dot on the gold one has some texture to it, but nothing workable

[faint rivet]

Maybe gold has half the answer and the white has the other. Put em together and you get ONE
Maybe over laying the white (egg) to the gold (yolk) and then do the image manipulation process and MAYBE we’ll get something 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pure loom]

yeah, I tried this already, but because the gold one is basically featureless it doesn't produce anything

the upper part of the gold one has the same texture

tbh they all just look like jpg artifacts

the white one's grid patterns give us something to work with, which is great. But the gold one remains a mystery

[sharp flame]

weird page name when the URL was t1-f-1

[turbid tinsel]

not sure if this is anything, but almost looks like a word towards the bottom

this is on the black and gold one

[balmy fog]

S

Something

e

p

[river flame]

t

[hard current]

oh shit it does

[sonic mantle]

I read beef, but I think that’s wrong 😂

[tribal oar]

hmmmm

[pure loom]

Are you just hungry?

[honest sail]

bEEf

[turbid tinsel]

that was messing around with the select by color in gimp, you can selection certain spots and delete entire sections and stuff. kinda hard to explain

ill make a clip in a few

not sure how accurate using it can be

[timid pebble]

Did we ever mentionned those?
http://www.carlosbasanta.com/portfolio/the-man-who-stole-the-golden-egg/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegreville_egg

Big eggs in parks 🤔

[turbid tinsel]

Essentially this is what im doing for those wondering.

maybe someone else will find this usefull

[unborn pilot]

No and he also looks like a matchstick man kinda

[timid pebble]

I'm thinking, it could be a great idea to go back to the G doc, and try to find some new reachthefinals.com/......... links, with actors family name that seems like they meant something for the hunt.

You guys found a link with Burrow and with Galileo.

Last time you guys found a link, there was a picture with Namatama and saying Loading.

[unborn pilot]

Oh burrow was Galileo?

[timid pebble]

And lately with got a Gif with loading written en nothing was hidden in it.

I bet while that gif was up there, it unlocked a new URL that we were then able to find, and until now no one found it.

They found a QR code with Galileo and a Diamond clue with Burrow if im not mistaken.

[unborn pilot]

Egg is oval. Oval is an ellipse. The orbits of all eight planets (lots of planet and moon clues) in our solar system are elliptical, which means they are oval-shaped. The golden sun is in the center (first pic). It casts a shadow (shadow in second pic and not fully centered). Just things I’ve been trying to figure out if they point to something that connects them all now again.

I gotta dump all the words and phrases I tried once I can get access to that thread

[timid pebble]

You have access now I believe 🙂

I just turned Yellow and I can hop in the chat

[balmy fog]

Also Velga

[unborn pilot]

Oh whoa me too

👍

Vega?

One rabbit hole I wanna figure out is if the shadow on the ? is casting to a particular date or time. Which maybe points to a particular person or event.

[turbid tinsel]

Something else to think about, usually when we solve a password the image we get is supposed to be for the next password. So was the abc pic "ques" supposed to help us get the next answer which gave us "tion"? and are we supposed to combine both photos for the final tier or is the final teir a summary of everything weve done?

[faint rivet]

sooo im really terrible at these, lol, but i hope i actually found something

[unborn pilot]

Combine in some way. I agree. Just might not be the obvious ways we’ve been considering so far.

That one I idea I read earlier about using it as a magnfying glass gave me the thought about using it to cast a shadow with it as the sun on top of the ? Just need to try it when I get a chance

[balmy fog]

Im pretty sure it's artifacts

but you can try different %

I might be wrong

[timid pebble]

If we really go on that route, and the golden ? is casting a light ray on the white one.

Should we then look for a date as the password?

[faint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/countingvotes-lets-go-gif-19097939

how i am right now. lol

[jade citrus]

🜚 is the alchemical symbol for gold, looks like a comet (1064)

[turbid tinsel]

kinda looks like a telescope

[jade citrus]

🝁 is the alchemical symbol for quicklime (calcium oxide, maybe like cacoiii)

🝌 is the alchemical symbol for **calx **(Latin for limestone (cacoiii))

seems like there could be an alchemy connection throughout the tiers, especially because of the whole "creating gold" thing

and rob called the clues that lead to the final tier of level 2 "gold clues"

[turbid tinsel]

does 6 have any other bigger references?

other than g = 6

in the EE hunt

[faint rivet]

idk anymore. lol

[unborn pilot]

Yeah I believe it was near end of T1C he said there were already 8 golden clues pointing directly to the final tier

[turbid tinsel]

Did we find and other answers using x = s or x = 5?

[unborn pilot]

Which 8 might be a way to start looking and picking out ideas that connect as well.

[hard current]

we thought about this yesterday but the sheer scale of clues.. it would be incredibly hard to sort back through and determine what clues are pointing to the final tier

but not impossible

[unborn pilot]

Team effort!

[hard current]

what if we each picked a tier?

we’d have to disqualify anything pointing directly to the tier answer I believe

[unborn pilot]

We could and then I could as I have time go over others to see if anything was missed.

I was also thinking to tag each type of clue and see if there is a lot of something we haven’t used yet

Somethings like astrology were big early on pointing to answers, but then also had clues in later tiers which made no sense

[turbid tinsel]

honestly probably need to go back and look at https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1106236741037338634/IMG_CDIV.png?ex=6568a5bf&is=655630bf&hm=f51b985be441ed7755f8b6cd463e71ca1a06acf93c715526df4493c0087d2bbe&

and the periodic chart in the background

[unborn pilot]

This picture haunts me @turbid tinsel

So many clues in it

[turbid tinsel]

some things look they had edits on them

[unborn pilot]

Small rabbit hole but I’ve been wondering if there’s a connection here

Arrows, squares, Xs,

[hasty anvil]

This image has a Christmas card and wasn’t it posted around March/april?

And maybe what keys are missing / what keys he has his fingers on

And one last thing, the namatama on his shirt I’m not sure was looked at too much

[unborn pilot]

DHL? are the keys I believe

[hasty anvil]

I can’t make out the figure though

I see ADCO missing and maybe fingers on DHL

[quaint wing]

Number 3 is missing too

[hasty anvil]

Yeah missed that, good spot

[quaint wing]

What about the thing on the cup?

[hasty anvil]

Maybe they’ve spotted these before, I can’t access the Padlet atm

I think the cup they said wasn’t part of the Easter egg

[unborn pilot]

They have

[hasty anvil]

It’s on one of the padlets

[unborn pilot]

It’s on the wiki and Padlet but I don’t think all them have been fully solved or found all connections.

[hasty anvil]

From memory I think they keys, namatama and Christmas card weren’t looked at in detail

The namatama looks so familiar

[hasty anvil]

As in the one on the shirt

[unborn pilot]

Yeah. The only thing was the compound mirrored on the wall mattered on this tier but the rest maybe seems for other stuff then.

[hasty anvil]

Was this the cacoiii tier?

[unborn pilot]

Yeah I’m pretty sure it was

[hasty anvil]

Snowflakes was a common clue that came up somewhere else

And rob mentioned Christmas a few times, so maybe referring to this picture

[spring tusk]

Did we find anything about the y=6 and x=5 on the top left?

[unborn pilot]

Not anything conclusive.

I wonder if the periodic table is gonna be used as some sort of cypher key.

Lots of things underlined and crossed off

[hasty anvil]

The PTE=CNS that we need to remember

[unborn pilot]

CNS is all over the place

PTE not so much

But those could be keys as well

[hasty anvil]

We need to collectively look back if we start to lose hope with the ? Images

Or start a thread for it lol

[unborn pilot]

The ? Images lead to more questions so far

First time I’ve seen clues so far with nothing obvious in them at all

[hasty anvil]

Yeah and the issue is the non photoshop users can’t do anything now lol

So we’re just waiting

By the time I learn, it will probably be solved

[jade citrus]

yeah most of the clues here are unsolved, maybe some hints to a diamond clue tho

[unborn pilot]

Yeah. Though that might be by good design to make us look back.

I think there’s another connection between some primary clues from different tiers that Rob referred to as golden clues.

[turbid tinsel]

there are definitely edits on it like hidden things.

im like 90% certain there is something written on both of their arms. and something above the coffee stain, possible arrow and some more stuff. but their are weird pixels all over.

[hard current]

did y’all nail down what this was?

[jade citrus]

its a chemical present in eggshells

[hard current]

should we start a golden clues hunt thread or nah

[turbid tinsel]

you guys ever use the x=s ?

or 5, not sure what it is.

[jade citrus]

I think its a 5, but no we never really solved that

i think it means 5 spots across, 6 spots down

which is the element Tantalum, possibly just a troll, like they're just "tantalizing" us

[turbid tinsel]

unless we have to convert roman numerals or something

[hard current]

what tier was this from again

golden clue hunt

[hard current]

yo @turbid tinsel

did anyone ever notice how edited this looks?

[hasty anvil]

Can we make out the word that’s covered?

[hard current]

looks like a fancy signature of some kind

[hasty anvil]

And also has anyone looked at the embark studios podcast Rob featured on?

[unborn pilot]

Haha

No but you’re right.

Esojourn

[hasty anvil]

It looks to be a gold award, so promising sign

Esojoin maybe

[unborn pilot]

I can’t find either to be a word though

[hard current]

It looks like a signature potentially

[unborn pilot]

A signature is usually way messier

And not at the top of an award

This almost feels like it should be the name of the award itself

[hard current]

hm, I'll keep looking 🙂 it def looks edited onto it tho right?

it could just lead to that tiers clue but

speaking of which, which tier was this image from?

[unborn pilot]

Cdiv 404. I think tier E

[river flame]

Aren't we supposed to look for 8 golden clues?

[hard current]

what about this? Fingers on

D
H
L
0 (maybe)

Missing keyboard inputs include

3
C
O

was this something you guys recall being in discussion?

sorry Ik I'm asking a lot of questions, just wondering what clues are/aren't looking into for golden clues

[unborn pilot]

I believe it’s more that we know at end of tier C there had been 8 clues. More likely appear in DEF

[hard current]

there's definitely more than 8 based off wording, but as of 12/20/2022 there had been 8 released

[unborn pilot]

So that narrows a search by a lot actually

And then the ones in DEF might become obvious

[river flame]

Wouldn't they relate to gold

[unborn pilot]

Not necessarily

[hasty anvil]

Uh oh. Quote from the podcast from rob “I need to spend some time in the incubator on this one cause I-I-I am cracking up”. Maybe a cacoiii hint

But there’s clues in the podcast

[unborn pilot]

Omg I juts heard that too last night

[hard current]

we think it could either be gold related OR "golden" in the sense that it relates to the final clue

[hasty anvil]

Egg incubator, cracking up and iii lol

[river flame]

we have no leads though

[hasty anvil]

I’ll need to go back over it tomorrow properly

[unborn pilot]

Look back at very recent Rob messages he throws in an extra i for no reason too

[hard current]

that's why we're looking back at the old tiers, Rob said the clues for the final tier are out there already, problem is what clues are for that tier and what clues are for the golden/final tier?

[hasty anvil]

The iii I think is for cacoiii password

[unborn pilot]

That’s what I think too but 1 might also be L

Or another letter for the final tier

[hasty anvil]

True true I kind of skipped to the end lol

[river flame]

How will we know if we find one

[hasty anvil]

It’s late here so I’ll listen again tomorrow

[hard current]

we won't for now.. it may become obvious the more we find

[unborn pilot]

It seems like each tier only uses one form of code.

[river flame]

I think we should check them off of what we have for 1A

Rob said it was important

[hard current]

iirc this was never figured out right

[hasty anvil]

There’s 8 golden clues between t1a and t1d, so we should all start together in the same place I think

But I can’t find t1a Padlet

[hard current]

hang on I can find it one sec

[unborn pilot]

Correct. We might need a thread for unsolved puzzles? Even if we solve them to be yolk or something. At least it’s out of the way.

[river flame]

t1a is in the t1b pallet

[hasty anvil]

Ahhh I see ty

[hard current]

https://padlet.com/duhmeistertv/tfee-level-2-the-promise-t1a-jn8pzep2feryjhm6

you guys wanna join the thread?

[unborn pilot]

Themes during T2ABC that don’t seem to be related to gold, egg or g6.

• Hours, days, months, any, ahead (time relations)
• One & i said often by Rob (could refer to 1 being i in next tier as each tier had its own leet used)
• Ticking repeated & laughed at gold clock. (more time relations)
• ETA Cassiopeiae (stars, time)
• Brilliant said often?

Wip but I’m working backward removing what was NOT related lol

[hasty anvil]

Yeah start using the thread for this

[unborn pilot]

I’ll leave that as a reminder but I’ll put other stuff there.

[river flame]

brilliant chess move

[jade citrus]

yep I caught this a while ago

[jade citrus]

this was never a clue, its a running joke because dusty accidentally sent typed that and sent it in this channel

[hard current]

noted 🙂

[jade citrus]

also the missing keys on the keyboard are 3 A C O, pointing to CaCO3 (the password)

[hard current]

perfect that can be eliminated then too

[jade citrus]

not sure if we ever figured out D H L though

[river flame]

550?

nvm

[unborn pilot]

Delivery?

[river flame]

what

pizza?

[unborn pilot]

Oh DHL is a delivery service lol

[river flame]

oh

I thought it looked familiar

[unborn pilot]

On that note. Is there a chance the solution from level 1 “geocache” might mean something overall to level 2 (3,4) solutions?

[hasty anvil]

Gonna post this here. ? Clue maybe on this image that we wouldn’t have found without the new clues we’re given for this tier

At bottom of s pic

[pure loom]

These possible TAM letters have probably been noted before, but maybe a possible path for them hasn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Age_Message

All "G" spectral types

[river flame]

and there are 6

[quaint wing]

Here we go again.

[split forge]

How's the hunting go lads

[hard current]

starting from the first tier lmao

[river flame]

what

[quaint wing]

G=6

[river flame]

ye

I'm not going down a rabbit hole

[split forge]

Lmao

[quaint wing]

But don't worry, it's a walk in the park! We'll be through this park in no time.

Except it's getting dark, there's a ton of trees, and I'm suddenly in a forest with booby traps.

[pure loom]

You forgot the distant growling noises

[quaint wing]

You heard those too? Thank Rob, I thought I was going crazy

[coarse dagger]

@pure loom did you ever answer this? Sorry if you did and I overlooked

[jade citrus]

Thank Rob 😭

[pure loom]

yeah, I did. It was blend mode

[coarse dagger]

Which blend mode?

[pure loom]

I tried various ones actually

[coarse dagger]

Those lines seemed intriguing to me, do you know which one you used for that image?

[pure loom]

I think I used "darker colour" for that one, but then that was using the old image, not the raw black and white ones from stegonline, so I'd probably ignore it

The lines on the left are a result of each layer being moved to the right

so only lines on the left would remain (mostly)

[hard current]

jsut a thought but... I'm noticing many different things that have to do with ressurection/respawning maybe?

an egg symbolizes fertility and birth/rebirth

jesus ressurection, rise from the ashes or "Oriri ex cinere" from dusty

[unborn pilot]

i would not be surprised if the answer was a latin term

two words we combine

i do have the theory that in the last one we'll do something else new to change a certain letter into i

like E = iii

[hard current]

if anyones interested I think we've found a lot of potentially new things in #1176727687063154748

I'm gonna start a 1B soon

was this building ever identified

it could just be built like a cathedral for clue purposes

or it could be something else

[quaint wing]

I believe so. You can check the other padlets, but I'm pretttttttty sure it was one of the first few.

[hard current]

mmm I see that the pisa cathedral was named but that's it

it's not the pisa cathedral whatever it is

[hidden nacelle]

Saint Nicholas Cathedral

[hard current]

aha you're right

was that ever investigated?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_Immaculate AKA

[hidden nacelle]

i think we investigated a little bit but nothing came from it as far as i know

[hard current]

seems like that could be important for the current tier? we'll have to keep that in mind

[hard current]

The present day Cathedral of Monaco symbolizes the rebirth of this small principality in the late 19th century, when Monaco turned into independent and very rich country. The old, medieval church was torn down and in its place was built new, magnificent cathedral.

rebirth... again

https://www.wondermondo.com/monaco-cathedral/

limestone used to build it

for everyone waking up in the am, please tear apart #1176727687063154748

[sharp flame]

bro???

it's there in real life Monaco 😭 we were all over that in t1A

wasn't too hard to find haha

[naive mulch]

dont act like everyones heard of the monaco cathedral lmao

[hard current]

i wasn’t here😭

[naive mulch]

when playing, i was calling it "castle"

[river flame]

why do you think it's in the stage called monaco

[sharp flame]

I hadn't heard of it either lol, but like it's the main feature of the Monaco map haha

[naive mulch]

yeah its just not something you think about

[sharp flame]

We def searched it up

[hard current]

I’m a bozo

[river flame]

sorry

[hard current]

nah in all honesty I didn’t recall that maps name was monaco 🙂

[sharp flame]

Hahaha it's okay

All I was saying was we def covered it in T1A, not that I remember what we found

[hard current]

I didn’t see anything in the padlet unless I missed it

[sharp flame]

cause it wasn't exactly relevant iirc

It was there to point us towards Pisa Cathedral

[coarse dagger]

It was related to T1A's Phoenix connection, but didn't really lead to clues

[hard current]

if you guys see anything interesting in #1176727687063154748 let me know or if you can add onto it

<@&1012034066876473384> homie posting this in a few diff channels now

[bitter comet]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-i-cannot-read-gif-10549564367608169258

[stone tangle]

This guy has a point, adding the words “最终决战” when looking in STEAM for the game (In mandarin) will make it very easy for mandarin speakera to find the game.

I don’t know if this is the right place to post it though.

[vocal lintel]

感谢支持，我们中国人很喜欢这个游戏

[sharp flame]

Love you guys too! However it's the in server rules everyone uses the same language here, so please translate the messages next time!

[last dragon]

What if @limber crest’s banner possibly has an Easter egg

[limber crest]

Lmao it is not

[quaint wing]

😢

[hard current]

analyzing as you speak

[last dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-gif-26520567

[hard current]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-16730883

[stone tangle]

The release of the sega saturn console was november 22nd…. Am I triping????

@jade citrus

[jade citrus]

yeah it looks like it

what about it