easter-eggs

[winged marlin]

oh it certaintly ccould be all over the place, as the guns are not straight lines

[sharp flame]

I mean we could use a straight line edge

[pure loom]

You’ll need to wait until you can post images (you can’t while you’re name is white)

[sharp flame]

DM it to me and I'll post it @winged marlin

[pure loom]

20 or so posts and you’ll be able to

[timid solstice]

33 degrees

adjusted

[winged marlin]

what if we go with a common factor both guns have to create the lines, like the text

[sharp flame]

here you go

[winged marlin]

thanks fish

[coarse dagger]

That's the second 302 we've found, the other straight from Rob, so I think it's likely good

[winged marlin]

mines not particularly accurate tho

[sharp flame]

I think that's just lining it up though

[winged marlin]

I wasn't aiming for 302 but idk

[sharp flame]

something on the gun?

[timid solstice]

lined up to the text

[sharp flame]

haha well thats interesting

[winged marlin]

Thanks

[coarse dagger]

But....
#easter-eggs message
#easter-eggs message

So there's something there

[sharp flame]

Look I mean there's nothing wrong with doing this

either way we already know 302 is a clue

but if we agree it's 30.2 then we are eliminating any other possibilities

[timid solstice]

its around 30 degrees..

[winged marlin]

Have we seen the egg friend with a Halo before?

[sharp flame]

I think 30 degrees is good

[sharp flame]

only in the Closed Beta

[coarse dagger]

We've seen devil horns too, right?

[timid solstice]

yup its the CB2 skin rewards and charm

[sharp flame]

probably not EE stuff

[pure loom]

I agree

[winged marlin]

do we have an angle and distances for the 3 circles found?

[timid solstice]

was just working on it

[coarse dagger]

FYI you can add labels to connections in Padlet for a pithy description of how they're related

[sharp flame]

wait

here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_359

[timid solstice]

Are we looking at adam and eve ?

[sharp flame]

the answer is no hehe

[coarse dagger]

Sorry, how did you get here?

[crude topaz]

2 more on the white line above this

[sharp flame]

Named after Max Wolf, director of Heidelberg Observatory (found Aethusa 1064, it's a long story)

[timid solstice]

checking against orions belt

[sharp flame]

also happens to be with Alpha centauri as one of the closest stars

[coarse dagger]

Is it the dot to the right of the alpha in centaurus?

as in α.?

[sharp flame]

no dot I think

[timid solstice]

thinking its a bug, I think the image THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_Keep_It_Simple_2160x2880 is under it
#official-art message

[sharp flame]

need to find a diagram where there is a dot

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message

[timid solstice]

is that the point they orbit around?

[coarse dagger]

I don't think so

[timid solstice]

yeah that would be weird haha
hmm they do orbit eachother

Alpha Centauri A and B are gravitationally bound together, orbiting about a common center of mass every 79.9 years at a relatively close proximity, varying between 11.2 to 35.6 astronomical units (that is, 11.2 to 35.6 times the distance between the Earth and our sun)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri

no 😱 on this

[crude topaz]

hmm the -pis seem to be red

[timid solstice]

excuse

me

[sharp flame]

me after the surgery

[jade citrus]

seek medical assistance

[timid solstice]

ouch

[floral axle]

[sharp flame]

XLVI CCIV

46 204

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message

[timid solstice]

apis is a honey bee

[sharp flame]

haha yeah that's me

but I just wanted to remind us

to find something with it

46 204

[coarse dagger]

Trying to figure out if the Alpha in this Centaurus image is α Centauri A and B, or if maybe the dot to the right is α Centauri B

[crude topaz]

yep XLVI CCIV

[sharp flame]

I'm about to post something reallllllllllly loose

nobody take my word on this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_(album)

• 1979 album (but that's not relevant)

[coarse dagger]

Very loose

Gaping even

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/galavant-bit-of-a-stretch-stretch-smile-gif-4898322

[coarse dagger]

Nevermind, it's tightening up

[sharp flame]

1979 - Polar - Stockholm, Sweden

okay now you might think me crazy for using the ISBN number...

but Rob's shown us it's the type of thing he's already doing

[crude topaz]

wonder if the clouds/smoke means anything..

[timid solstice]

https://youtu.be/NnE4-TvJY48

[coarse dagger]

I just added clouds to the padlet

[south wyvern]

M or a pair of tri__angles__

[crude topaz]

McDanaldu

[south wyvern]

the easy approach im seeing is collapsed buildings

[sharp flame]

oh!

oh!

guys here's another crazy one

This is the ISBN 46204 book

and here is the serotonin page:

❗

[coarse dagger]

Anyone tried both buttstock angles?

[timid solstice]

still on proxima B . -33 degrees

[worn badger]

ok ok i have some time now
did you already find something out?
we are you currently at?

[jade citrus]

padlet has everything

https://padlet.com/Kyne/the-promise-t1f-e13p6j3z8rtoabls

[sharp flame]

We have 3 clues

💀

[worn badger]

best image quality in #official-art ?

[pure loom]

Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean

[sharp flame]

this lol

Resk in January!

[coarse dagger]

~~Asking on /r/Astronomy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Astronomy/comments/14pup9s/in_the_constillation_centaurus_what_is_the_dot_to/ ~~ Post deleted as "Poorly researched question". If they only knew

[pure loom]

I know! I guess we need to check back every now and then

[sharp flame]

or maybe he does this after we solve the tier hehehe

[worn badger]

so far we have something related to stars/space?

[coarse dagger]

I thought someone pointed out that reaction prior to solving, but not positive

[sharp flame]

we have a single star

[crude topaz]

feels like there always stars and space lol

[sharp flame]

bro

that dot is a star

[coarse dagger]

Yeah, which one

[sharp flame]

like the other ones in the background

[coarse dagger]

_<

[sharp flame]

Proxima Centauri

[coarse dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[jade citrus]

anyone know what this thing is on her leg? c4?

[sharp flame]

new gadget maybe

maybe it's a Radiation Detector

who knowwws

[crude topaz]

those look like primer caps

[worn badger]

looks like a flair

or syringe

or life straw

[crude topaz]

man ill get fbi on me if i post pictures of primer caps lol

[worn badger]

are we looking for the name of the dot?

[coarse dagger]

I'm trying to. I think fish may be right that it's Proxima, but not sure

[hidden nacelle]

maybe a stim

[proud minnow]

Been out celebrating @hearty oar tonight… looks like I have some reading up to do when I get home… ._.

[sharp flame]

Rob here to comment on the 3 clues we found 👀 ❤️

[proud minnow]

Taking the scooter home first, hehe

[coarse dagger]

Scoot safely

[sharp flame]

here you go, all 6 clues

[south wyvern]

Two missing white blocks or different but pine green color?

[jade citrus]

ah, just part of the outfit i guess 😅

[coarse dagger]

I count 32

[sharp flame]

Rob by the way I think that's an error...

it was there in Tier D too...

[south wyvern]

yeah, double checking

[worn badger]

a lot of "pair" clues

[sharp flame]

it's in the bottom left

[timid solstice]

THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_Keep_It_Simple_2160x2880

[sharp flame]

here @south wyvern

[south wyvern]

saw that too

[timid solstice]

its the same from the other image Keep_It_Simple so might be a layer error
#official-art message

[sharp flame]

it's the exact same

Rob you gotta confirm it before I graph EVERY colour value

[timid solstice]

The genus name Apis is Latin for "bee"
Centauri B

[coarse dagger]

32 bullet DERP 33

[crude topaz]

Apis is some kind of cow god, if yah want the rabbit hole named greek mythology

[worn badger]

R: 46
G: 204
B: X
= always green color

[sharp flame]

what about that one

[coarse dagger]

Wait

Yeo

Yep

[sharp flame]

💀

even the sneaky one you said

[coarse dagger]

Was too zoomed in in my image editing

lol

[timid solstice]

33 again

[sharp flame]

WAIT

33

[worn badger]

where was 33 earlier

[coarse dagger]

Actual bullet count

[sharp flame]

the apparent uhh, degrees between the guns

[coarse dagger]

18 bullets on the left 15 on the right

[south wyvern]

confuse

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message
#easter-eggs message

[south wyvern]

im on the fence between 33rd or sneaker scrap

[coarse dagger]

100% bullet IMO

Its the same brass color

[worn badger]

33° is a degree within freeamsonary

[coarse dagger]

Looks like the back of the firing cap to me. with the more silver colored circle in the center

Oriented similarly to this bullet

[worn badger]

saw that too! looks off for sure

33°
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Rite

[timid solstice]

numbers could be interesting

[coarse dagger]

Scottish 💀

[worn badger]

i think there is some text hidden in the cap

[coarse dagger]

AB?

Alpha Centauri A + B?

[south wyvern]

It's tough. As for now, I'll roll with A. 33 and just in case B. 32 for later/noted.

[sharp flame]

yeah haha what a coincidence

AB possible

[coarse dagger]

@south wyvern Your image is clearer than mine. Did you sharpen it, or do I need to grab a higher quality img from somewhere?

[sharp flame]

#official-art

is the best possible

[coarse dagger]

Alright, that's where I got mine from

[sharp flame]

and then try not to lose any quality on the way

[coarse dagger]

I must be crazy

[south wyvern]

Zoom tool from Photoshop.

[timid solstice]

tried matching the scales

[coarse dagger]

Has anyone ever tried doing some sort of pixel diff between the website image and the #official-art channel image?

[sharp flame]

always possible

[timid solstice]

What does Proxima mean in Greek?
proximus (feminine proxima, neuter proximum); first/second declension. superlative degree of prope. nearest, next, neighbor quotation

interesting Proxima (if it is) is in between them

ohhhhh

they are literally wearing BETA

[coarse dagger]

And of course we have tHe AlPHa MalE

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-25193407

[sharp flame]

wait that actually makes sm sense

[coarse dagger]

We sure proxima isn't the the dot near α? α.

[worn badger]

AB

= Aktiebolag = Swedish for "corporation", similar to AG, Ltd or Inc

= AB postcode area, UK, including Aberdeen, Scotland

= AB blood, a blood type in the ABO blood group system

= Albite, a feldspar mineral
= Ammonia borane, a chemical compound.
= Alabamine, a former name of Astatine.

= Artium baccalaureus, Latin for Bachelor of Arts

(Aβ or Abeta)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyloid_beta

canTAUri -> tau proteins
"... and are abundant in the neurons of the central nervous system (CNS)..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_protein

[timid solstice]

not 100% as this is a rough not to scale repesentation

but I dont think its known as Alpha Proxima
ok it is
Alpha Centauri C (Proxima Centauri)

[coarse dagger]

Tau, the ratio of the circumference to the radius of a circle, which is equal to 2π (6.28318...)

[worn badger]

2

pi

pipi

[coarse dagger]

LONGSTOCKING

[worn badger]

^

[proud minnow]

Error...?

[coarse dagger]

😮

NOT AN ERROR

ROB IS FLAWLESS

Tau in astronomy is a measure of optical depth, or how much sunlight cannot penetrate the atmosphere

[worn badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau

[neon stream]

Rob might be recycling clues, given how many we miss 😂

[timid solstice]

we think we can see the Keep_It_Simple image mixed into this one (which might have had an error as in the footer doesn't cover the image all the way to the edge

[south wyvern]

hmm... Kapnobatai or capnobatae (Ancient Greek: καπνοβάται; Latin: capnobatae), meaning "those who walk on/in smoke/clouds"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapnobatai

"milk and honey"? you looking for bee @timid solstice

[timid solstice]

I lined up the scale of Centuari B, the others dont quite match but I think it does represent them

[worn badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

[sharp flame]

I think Rob would tell us if it were an error...

[coarse dagger]

Where did we get those scales from? Them as a constallation, i.e. relative to earth? Perhaps the scales are relative to something else? The Sun?

[sharp flame]

Not an error!!

SR returns

[worn badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology

[proud minnow]

Open your eyes.

[timid solstice]

think outside

[sharp flame]

okay I'm outside and thinking

now what

[timid solstice]

am I rose? is rob Jack
https://tenor.com/view/xpnrrr-gif-19367066

[coarse dagger]

Maybe we need to X-Or those images?

[worn badger]

all namatamas are angels

[coarse dagger]

Angels? Thunder corrected typos

[south wyvern]

halo above the head

[worn badger]

angels* yes

[worn badger]

the 33° one too

[sharp flame]

NO WAY

[worn badger]

look he did some eyes

[coarse dagger]

Okay, so the guns are 33 degrees apart then

[south wyvern]

We have Model 1886 lever-action in the game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.33_Winchester

[coarse dagger]

Pointing us to proxima

[proud minnow]

Such amateurs... they have not even started to scratch the surface of the maze--- --

[coarse dagger]

There's 302 in dashes again

[worn badger]

--- -- = OM?

[coarse dagger]

One sec, I came across something with surface and Tau earlier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_depth

[proud minnow]

OYE

[sharp flame]

So ... It's been there all along?

or are you just showing us something we missed 😂

[mild imp]

i just came back after the cacoiii code

it was infront of us the whole time

if rob had said caco3 with roman = the code, it wouldve been found out instantly

thats crazy

[timid solstice]

too easy

[proud minnow]

haha, far from it, but you know this

[proud minnow]

YOU SOLVED IT.!

[coarse dagger]

another Titanic link OFC

[worn badger]

YO

he racted to golden ratio

[proud minnow]

Think I've gone through all your texts now... pretty good start on this tier.!

[worn badger]

thank you rob, i love the golden ratio

[timid solstice]

https://youtu.be/jul0lb5waoo?t=52

[worn badger]

i have a whole book about it, should i pull it out and read through it?

[crude topaz]

yes...

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[coarse dagger]

Titanic -> Heart of the Ocean -> love

[sharp flame]

Hahaha I think we need to find a few more clues

[coarse dagger]

Maybe some cardioid connection? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardioid

[worn badger]

Euclid

Fibonacci

[timid solstice]

t-1d clues...

[coarse dagger]

Golden ratio

[worn badger]

= Φ = phi
(21st letter in greek alphabet)

[timid solstice]

good start everyone
goodnight!

[crude topaz]

yep, time to pass out

[sharp flame]

Yeah same.. gn all!

[proud minnow]

(it's 00:30 here in STHLM... time to get cracking...)

[coarse dagger]

I don't see any way to fit the Golden ratio curve onto the circles and a.

But it's kinda difficult as @winged marlin just finished her residency and we lost access to Photoshop

Noticed my file from the website and from the discord were significantly different sizes, remembered @fish 's comment #easter-eggs message

The max one from the website is slightly larger

[sharp flame]

Ooooooo

[coarse dagger]

Perhaps there's something important in those 30 kilobytes?
Would be worth doing a test to see if discord alters the size at all when uploading a PNG?

[sharp flame]

@coarse dagger Rob reacted

I think that's what our circles are?

[coarse dagger]

Stupid discord was taking me to the wrong comment

[sharp flame]

It always does that for me

[coarse dagger]

Testing uploading the website max file size image back to discord:

Discord did not change the PNG

There's something there in the website photo which isn't in discord. Maybe metadata, idk

[coarse dagger]

It's like a 50/50 for me

[worn badger]

Summary T1F (1st day)

Eye (👀 ) reactions by rob:

302
Romance (in The Finals)
33 / 33° / -33°
Proxima Centauri
79 orbital period
Clarissa
Centaurus (constellation)
pis
lapis
46 204
Seratonin in CNS (central nervous system)
GOLDEN RATIO

"box around embark"
"blue line"

[coarse dagger]

We're not sure about lapis

IMO

Seems sensible though

[worn badger]

he eyed the comment though

[coarse dagger]

Oh

Nvm then

[sharp flame]

We are not but he eyed it

maybe cause it's from last tier

[coarse dagger]

I'd say that means we're sure, lol

[sharp flame]

Also Thunder the "morse code" is 302

---

3 0 2

[timid solstice]

No eyes on golden ratio btw

Maybe split the reactions

[worn badger]

true, i will fix it

[sharp flame]

Plenty of other reactions

[worn badger]

but shouldnt 3 other reactions be the same indicator as the eyes? :D

[pure loom]

Alpha Centauri A and B - these can be separated visually with a basic backyard telescope

[timid solstice]

I always thought the is acknowledgment of a connection rather than we we found the clue

[pure loom]

A + B and C could be interpreted as a "family"

[coarse dagger]

Here's lapis eyes
#easter-eggs message

[worn badger]

the word "lovelace" is used for MANY things btw

ada lovelace = first female programmer in the world

[timid solstice]

yeah I also checked and saw the same, ( 1 ) is from square space web link

[worn badger]

In 1844, she commented to a friend Woronzow Greig about her desire to create a mathematical model for how the brain gives rise to thoughts and nerves to feelings ("a calculus of the nervous system")
-link to CNS?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

[pure loom]

Hmmm... hopefully not just seeing things here but does the female character here appear to have a slight 'baby-bump'? Her abdomen does looks a little wider than other ones.

Like that lower belt is quite curved

[coarse dagger]

Alright I've figured out X-ORing images finally. Don't know if there's anything there but heres couple xor simple:

[timid solstice]

lol

[coarse dagger]

Bruh did you literally just do the same thing?

[timid solstice]

no about an hour ago

when rob was telling me to open my eyes

[coarse dagger]

I slow. Took me a bit to figure out how to do it in python

[timid solstice]

but thanks for doing it because now I know it wasnt a stupid idea

[coarse dagger]

I think it was a great idea, but I'm biased lol

[timid solstice]

I just did it in photoshop, difference mode blend I think

[coarse dagger]

from PIL import Image, ImageFilter, ImageChops
img_couple = Image.open('THE_FINALS_CB2_Couple_website.png')
img_simple = Image.open('THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_Keep_It_Simple_2160x2880.png')

display(img_couple)
display(img_simple)

result = ImageChops.add(ImageChops.subtract(img_simple,img_couple), ImageChops.subtract(img_couple,img_simple))
display(result)

[timid solstice]

ah must have been subtract

[coarse dagger]

subtract/difference same... difference

[worn badger]

guys

[coarse dagger]

That's on simple

[timid solstice]

yeah previous things

[coarse dagger]

Oh, but the guns line up

[worn badger]

guns line up perfectly

we're going back to rome?

wait oh

you just put 2 images together?

i'm stupid ................

[coarse dagger]

Yeah, we XORed simple and couple

But I think it's probably significant the gun lines up between the two images?

[worn badger]

my bad i read it wrong, nvm then :D

[timid solstice]

I think its the same just the pose is making that area stretch more

[coarse dagger]

In case anyone was wondering XORing all the tama's together from T1E does not yield anything of significance.

Chimeratama.png

[coarse dagger]

copyright? Where was this?

[worn badger]

sniper scope

[coarse dagger]

Hmm, I think it's more likely a glint off of 2 concentric circles adding some detailing to the scope, but idk

[timid solstice]

3 stars in orbits

[coarse dagger]

Ooh I like that

[timid solstice]

Alpha Centauri AB (left) forms a triple star system with Proxima Centauri, circled in red. The bright star system to the right is Beta Centauri.

[coarse dagger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri
The pair orbit around a common centre with an orbital period of 79 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxima_Centauri
It is currently 12,950 AU (0.2 ly) from AB, which it orbits with a period of about 550,000 years.

Trying to figure out if that depiction of concentric circles would make sense

[timid solstice]

Rigil Kentaurus Alpha Centauri A

Toliman for Alpha Centauri B

Proxima Centauri for Alpha Centauri C

[coarse dagger]

I'm wondering if we're thinking about this wrong in some places as well....
The only known planets in Centaurus are orbiting Proxima Centauri.
One of theme is Earth-sized and in the habitable zone.

Perhaps when we're looking at 3 celestial bodies it's not always the 3 main stars in Centaurus, but sometimes Proxima and it's two planets.

Proxima Centauri has two confirmed planets: Proxima b, an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone discovered in 2016, and Proxima d, a candidate sub-Earth which orbits very closely to the star, announced in 2022.

Maybe THE FINALS is set in a post apocalyptic world where humans have fled to Proxima b

[timid solstice]

the planet rob eyed was Proxima B

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message Eyes on Proxima B

@timid solstice might be worth busting out the relative sizeometer again for Proxima Centauri, Proxima B and, Proxima D

[worn badger]

the picture is in 2160x2880px
That's a 3:4 ratio

~> golden ratio

[worn badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio

[coarse dagger]

Ehhh, pictures are usually in common aspect ratios. Anything's a ratio if you try hard enough.

[worn badger]

A ratio may be specified either by giving both constituting numbers, written as "a to b" or "a:b"

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-morpheus-coincidence-providence-gif-22366085

cant find a planet relative size but this could be useful

[coarse dagger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stars_in_Centaurus
46 204 Gould designations?
They're right next to each other in the table

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Centauri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_Centauri

[worn badger]

maybe Pi is important

1.618034..

[coarse dagger]

Pi pi Longstocking w/ our tau connections. I'd say definitely

[worn badger]

but he didn't eye it 🥺

[timid solstice]

3 glints again, could be stars

[pure loom]

That is good spotting, I reckon

The main glints even look a bit like that image I posted earlier

#influencedby

[coarse dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-simon-cowell-glowing-eyes-gif-16217022

[timid solstice]

damn I really need sleep, goodnight all... again !

[coarse dagger]

Goodnight flex!

[worn badger]

amateurs

https://tenor.com/view/caffeine-overcaffinated-frye-reaction-futurama-gif-5028184

[worn badger]

Proxima Centauri
= red dwarf
= closest star to the sun
= most common star type in milkyway

AB <-> BA
= ABBA

Hep Stars - Wedding (Benny Andersson-ABBA) (song)

[coarse dagger]

@sharp flame Deleting a dupe from the padlet FYI

Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society Volume 302
About Beta Centauri
https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/302/2/245/968172?login=false

This figure reminds loosely of the Cross cypher:
https://academic.oup.com/view-large/figure/16639662/302-2-245-fig001.jpeg

[worn badger]

was thinking about exactly the same

it's called "spatial frequency"

[coarse dagger]

Aperture Masking Interferometry?

[worn badger]

i feel like we could've used it for decoding the old clue

with X and Y values

[coarse dagger]

This seems to indicate to me that the dot after the alpha isn't Proxima Centauri... We may still need to try to identify that

[worn badger]

🧐
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaurium_erythraea

[coarse dagger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur

In the latter version of the story, Centaurus's twin brother was Lapithes, ancestor of the Lapiths.

[worn badger]

star cluster =/= cluster of flowers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflorescence (Centaurium erythraea)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllotaxis

[coarse dagger]

Stumbled across 10199 Chariklo again while investigating Centaur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur_(small_Solar_System_body)

The largest confirmed centaur is 10199 Chariklo, which at 260 kilometers in diameter is as big as a mid-sized main-belt asteroid, and is known to have a system of rings. It was discovered in 1997.

[worn badger]

oh yeah, this could be interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapiths

many refferenes to centaurs

[coarse dagger]

AEOLIAN AGAIN

[worn badger]

+lapis

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message
#easter-eggs message
Aeolian connections

[worn badger]

aeolia is Thessaly

connection to byzantine

[coarse dagger]

Interesting

Connections to Virgin Mary loosely through Centaurs. I got there from something else loose as well earlier. Just leaving this here in case others bump into her as well.
Oh, and T1E had me looking at Virgin and Child with Angels because of the crown similarity
Also Virgin Mary -> Immaculate Heart of Mary -> Heart -> Love

[coarse dagger]

From the Centuar (small Solar System body) link

Ceres may have originated in the region of the outer planets,[7] and if so might be considered an ex-centaur, but the centaurs seen today all originated elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet)

Dawn found Ceres's surface to be a mixture of water ice, and hydrated minerals such as **carbonates **and clay. Gravity data suggest Ceres to be partially differentiated into a muddy (ice-rock) mantle/core and a less dense but stronger crust that is at most 30% ice by volume.

Looks like Ceres was talked about a lot in January and November. Was it ever used to connect to a clue?

[coarse dagger]

From Centaur (small Solar System Body)

For example, 55576 Amycus is in an unstable orbit near the 3:4 resonance of Uranus.

OOO 555 #easter-eggs message

The relatively small size of centaurs precludes remote observation of surfaces, but colour indices and spectra can provide clues about surface composition and insight into the origin of the bodies.
We need to scratch the surface

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_index

Back to Tholins from Centuars

Is there usually a lot of overlapping clues from previous passwords? T1E was my first.

If not, one of the themes of this could be 302 Redirect
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/302

We're being re-directed towards stuff from previous passwords

[coarse dagger]

It's as if Rob's saying "ALL TOGETHER NOW!"
Wait... passwords can't be over 30 characters right?

I think all the other passwords are 30 characters together

1064lxxix5f137s20vif0rmcacoiii

[worn badger]

maybe 302 tells us we need to look for an URL/ a link for another clue/image

[coarse dagger]

Yep, 30 characters

And this is the last part of tier 1

Tried passwords:
1064lxxix5f137s20vif0rmcacoiii
cacoiii0vif0rm5f137s2lxxix1064

Rob say it with me: "ALL TOGETHER NOW!"

Wonder if there's a substitution cypher?
CNS -> PTE could be part of a substitution cypher

But I tried
1064lxxix5f137e20vif0rmpap0iii
1064lxxix5f137e20vif0rmpapoiii
1064lxxix5f137e20viformpappoiii

1o64lxxix5f137e2oviformpappoiii

Did we have 1337 leet as a clue previously?

lo64lxxix5f1ete2oviformpappoiii

Having only come in at T1E if I'm on the right track I may need help from others for substitution cypher ideas if we're pulling from the full tier

[worn badger]

💤

[coarse dagger]

This section is interesting. Will list connections momentarily
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattered_disc#Scattered_disc_versus_Kuiper_belt

Alright, I'm getting lost in the sauce here... let me just start typing

So first off that section starts talking about orbital resonances which are expressed in ratios

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance

In the asteroid belt beyond 3.5 AU from the Sun, the 3:2, 4:3 and 1:1 resonances with Jupiter are populated by clumps of asteroids (the Hilda family, the few Thule asteroids, and the numerous Trojan asteroids, respectively).
Now we've got 4:3 ratio and Thule which keeps coming up for me

#easter-eggs message
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/486958_Arrokoth
Ultima Thule and Tholin again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/279_Thule
279 Thule is really the one with the 4:3 orbital resonance though

And we're back to John Herschel, Hyperion, and Titan

3:4 Hyperion–Titan (Saturn's moons)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(moon) Titan's clouds

Oh yeah, and

Since the discovery of Newton's law of universal gravitation in the 17th century, the stability of the Solar System has preoccupied many mathematicians, starting with Pierre-Simon Laplace.
Laplace -> Lapis

[coarse dagger]

"This simplicity of ratios will not appear astonishing if we consider that all the effects of nature are only mathematical results of a small number of immutable laws."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics#Spectrum_analysis
Parseval's theorem -> Parzival -> Ready Player One -> THE FINALS & Easter Egg Hunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parzival

Parzival is a medieval romance by the knight-poet Wolfram von Eschenbach in Middle High German.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-body_problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_cellular_automaton <- Rule 30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_30

I should've thought of cellular automata when we were talking about space invaders

And Elementary cellular automaton remind me of our cross cypher.

[coarse dagger]

Struggling to find out any way 2 rows of 15 (cross cypher) could fit into an elementary cellular automaton

I fit what I could into an elementary cellular automaton using the cell cypher...
Don't think too much of the triangle pattern, such patterns are common in elementary cellular automaton.
Think I'm at a dead end with this for now

[coarse dagger]

In case the color temperatures for 206888 or 1f6888 help, I believe they're 429961.083794, and 543194.16586 respectively:

Although those seem an order of magnitude higher than anything on the Color index

[sharp flame]

Yooo Rob react

[sharp flame]

Ooh here too

[sharp flame]

Oh and here

Lulz you should contract your URLs

put a < and > on the front and end

So it removes the big embed

[worn badger]

Rigil Kentaurus, Rigilkent, Toliman or Bungula

alt. Alpha Centauri names

[sharp flame]

I still think we need to get to the bottom of 46 204

or (46204)

[sharp flame]

Morning!

[timid solstice]

We got react on a specific name!

[worn badger]

😮☝️

[timid solstice]

Could be a route forword

The area we are looking at is the toe of centuari

[sharp flame]

I guess those are our 3 circles

[worn badger]

The star is known by the following names :- Alpha Centauri, Alf Cen, GL 559, GJ 559, HD 128620, TYC 9007-5849-1, LHS 50, HIP 71683, HR 5459, 363 G. Centauri, Gliese 559 A, 2MASS J14393592-6050069

[sharp flame]

A LOT of clues pointing to these 3 stars

[worn badger]

Rigil Kentaurus is Arabic for "Foot of the Centaur" because of its location in the mythological character outline.

Was thinking about the same 5mims ago

The stars are located at the front food

[sharp flame]

So far 46204 is the only thing I'm wondering about

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Princess_Royal_Class

[worn badger]

wolfburn batch 204 madeira cask finish

46% alcohol

[pure loom]

Why was this mentioned? I may have another link to it.

[worn badger]

Simply because of A & B

AB mirrored = ABBA

The song specifically because Benny Andersson (abba member) produced it

And wedding because of the whole romance/love theme

[worn badger]

What’s your link?

[sharp flame]

Lmao I was bringing up ABBA because of Polar Studios (Formed by ABBA)

No rob react though

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/abba-gimme-gimme-gimme-a-man-after-midnight-give-me-disco-gif-17892807

@worn badger , do you think you can add the direct messages to your list of 👀 messages?
#easter-eggs message

need to add the new stuff then we can pin it

[worn badger]

Which direct messages?
Tell me what to add and I will do it

[timid solstice]

something like this, I can help tonight gathering too;

302 : #easter-eggs message
Romance : #easter-eggs message
Proxima Cenuari : #easter-eggs message

[worn badger]

How do I link the comment to the clues?

Only on mobile rn, could do it later when I have a computer available

[timid solstice]

yeah no problem we can work on it later

[jade citrus]

flex just farming SR eyes last night lol

[sharp flame]

Alpha Centauri is the 3rd brightest in the sky

Sirius and Canopus above it

[pure loom]

In Greek mythology, Abas is the name of a centaur that attended Pirithous' wedding

However, we have a pretty consistent list of passwords now that relate to real things: geocaching, an asteroid, a volcanic eruption, an element, the shape of an egg, calcium carbonate, so a direct relationship to Greek mythology seems unlikely

[sharp flame]

33 here? ^^^

[coarse dagger]

Alright, I think I've added all of Rob's communication to the bottom of the padlet. You've gotta scroll down a little bit because I wanted to leave space for the normal padlet stuff to expand

Hit me up if I've missed anything

[fallen jasper]

Thankies

[coarse dagger]

I wonder if Rob's reactions to golden ratio are trying to connect it to romance? He reacted with , two hearts

[sharp flame]

maybe he just loves us ❤️ ❤️

[coarse dagger]

Trueee

[sharp flame]

also amaaazing work

[coarse dagger]

tyty

[winged marlin]

Have we used the cross cypher yet?

[coarse dagger]

Don't think so

[winged marlin]

Any chance the 30 characters from the previous answers can be filtered down to less characters by the cipher somehow?

like it's telling us which bits to exclude?

[coarse dagger]

Oh

Yeah... The cross cypher is 15x2

[winged marlin]

hmmmm

[coarse dagger]

Or maybe not which to exclude, but which format they're in?

[winged marlin]

ooooo

[coarse dagger]

Because there's 3 different symbols, 4 if you include the blanks

[restive ferry]

801 W Washington St, Indianapolis, IN 46204, Vereinigte Staaten

The Oval

[coarse dagger]

From @winged marlin :

[winged marlin]

(reminder colors are just for visualization)

[coarse dagger]

Maybe the blanks represent that we don't have to change it at all from the original password

And the others need to change

All of the Greek Crosses (+) are symbols that are in roman numerals

👆 These comments in relation to the cross cypher image from @winged marlin

MCXVII = 1117

[winged marlin]

can someone explain where we got the first password, I dont see a padlet for it

[restive ferry]

The Oval is an egg shaped park in the City Indianapolis which has the ZIP Code 46204. You had clues related to eggs. I thought it might be useful.

[sharp flame]

yeah that's actually a great connection

wonder if that's intended

[coarse dagger]

Anyone else seeing slightly non-transparent boxes around T1C and T1D on https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2 ?

Don't see it on the others

Just a CSS website display issue?

[winged marlin]

Actually, now that I'm looking at the main page, maybe the cross cipher and all previous passwords is the next stage where we ge tthe 2ABC and 2DEF split?

[timid solstice]

yes and 1B is a larger cross but its been there since it got added

[coarse dagger]

I like that theory. It fits well with the cross cypher being 2x15.
Although part of the reason I liked the idea of combining all the previous passwords was due to them adding up to the max password length of size 30.
If we split them in 2 it no longer adds to 30

[pure loom]

Yeah, I feel like the natural places for a password based on the past passwords would be that split or the final password of the level. This tier doesn’t feel special enough for something like that. I’ve no evidence for any of that, but if I was Rob I wouldn’t do it here.

[coarse dagger]

1f is the final password for the tier

[pure loom]

Oh, true! Is it just on mobile that there’s no split?

[coarse dagger]

Any EE's from the Highlight reels? New one dropped today. Both have some glitchiness at the end of the video:
#game-announcements message

[coarse dagger]

Desktop appearance:

[pure loom]

I’m gonna do the mobile one. Seems easier.

[unkempt crypt]

Yo welcome dude! very quick on the EE hunt!

[pure loom]

If the romance/family/baby path is real, ovulation could be a good egg-related path

Lots of ovals in a three-body star system

Ovalulation 😂

(It’s not the password )

If calcium carbonate makes the shell, what makes the yolk?

[sharp flame]

Damn...

Maybe we gotta look at the albumen composition

[pure loom]

Probably worth looking at. Just from a “where does this go next” point of view

Breakfast time here. Guess what I’m about to have.

Porridge.

[proud minnow]

REALLY, really close but no 👀

[sharp flame]

Robatama...

[sharp flame]

Somewhere close?

[proud minnow]

I know… It’s not correct… BUT in the right direction… so then I gave it a Robatama, haha

[sharp flame]

Okay 👌

now to search that whole area for something relevant..

😭😭

No way am I doing this on mobile.. need help with this tomorrow 🙏

[proud minnow]

took me some time Fish, but yes there in one obscure clue in that area…. ._. (tertiary)

[pure loom]

On the west side - White River (WR)

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers'_and_Sailors'_Monument_(Indianapolis)

"The obelisk-shaped monument is built of oolitic limestone from Owen County, Indiana."

The sphere under the woman at the top of the statue has 3 stars visible (and two others barely) on it

[quaint stratus]

Cool

[coarse dagger]

Guys this means I was close to something when I said

Scoot safely
#easter-eggs message

[winged marlin]

can't emote yet but wanted to say thanks for the welcome!!!

[jade citrus]

In the MTM interview with Rob, he makes a reference to the T1E password: "i i i" at 34:10 https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/embarkstudios/episodes/MTM--THE-FINALS-Rob-and-Jonny-e26hjom/a-aa38a6v

this was all the way back on June 18th

[coarse dagger]

God dammit. I didn't even know there was a podcast

[proud minnow]

yes, happy that you noticed that, hihi

[coarse dagger]

Is that the only episode w/ rob?

[jade citrus]

I actually listened to the whole episode, your part about ME was really inspiring! I've always wanted to get into the games industry, but I'm not sure where to start and sometimes its hard to take the leap of Faith.

[sharp flame]

Oh no way!!!

[pure loom]

That’s crazy!

[pure loom]

ROBBIE THUNDERSTORM!

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-spit-take-cracking-up-haha-so-funny-omg-gif-17921247

[sharp flame]

Hahaha

Maybe we'll be seeing a video covering the info from these podcasts 👀

[pure loom]

Maybe, I’m in the process of figuring out the future direction for the channel a bit - which is part of the reason I haven’t actually put much content out for the last couple of weeks.

Following two games is actually going to be too much.

Unless, I change my style. So just figuring all that out at the moment

[sharp flame]

Good luck ❤️

[pure loom]

He also talks about an incubator at that point - again, I think we are on the right track with the baby path for the current tier.

[worn badger]

quick question

are we allowed to use programs such as ChatGPT to solve things?

or would this be considered brute forcing too?

[pure loom]

It would be considered a lack of skill on our part

In my beginner’s guide I said it was one of the unwritten rules not to use it

[sharp flame]

Everything a chatbot solves is something we don't solve

I equate it to Rob just telling us what a clue means

but even then that's cause he wanted to tell us

[cedar owl]

ChatCheatPT?

[hidden nacelle]

What if I AM chatgpt?

[wanton sundial]

GPToast

[fallen jasper]

is that a BUNNY!'?!

BNUUY

[timid solstice]

It’s ok to ask for more context of a topic

[nimble iron]

No one here has the audacity to use it right?

[nimble iron]

Just a small reminder everyone, rate the MTM podcast on spotify!

5 stars!

[wanton sundial]

Good idea

[unkempt crypt]

Can I steal this haha

I actually have a good use for it here

[upper mantle]

has anyone suggested that this might relate to "breaking the 4th wall", aka going meta or outside the medium?
edit: just noticed this is an older comment that I replied to

[coarse dagger]

Was trying to see if I could find anything in the relative distances of the circles in the image.

I was working in Microsoft word 🤢 but I think I was able to get fairly accurate measurements. Unfortunately I couldn't seem connect them to the relative distances of alpha centauri or proxima centauri's planets to the star. (I guess I should check proxima centauri's planets relative to the star itself.)

One thing I noticed is that the relative distance between proxima centauri b to the star and proxima centauri d to the star is... almost the golden ratio.

0.05AU/0.029AU =
1.72413793103

Golden ratio
1.618033988749894
Probably not close to be an actual connection, but thought I'd mention my research.

[coarse dagger]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulor

Reached Modular from Golden Ratio. The leg stance of the figure is fairly close to those of the couple. At work now, but late this evening I should be able to post overlays.

Been seeing a decent bit of connections to Mod, Modulo, Modulor

[coarse dagger]

Alright, I've got A LOT of research from today.
When I started the research I didn't realize the extent of the connections I was going to find, so I was compiling them into my own Padlet (didn't have access to obsidian notes today).

https://padlet.com/TheLulz/getting-lost-in-rob-s-sauce-soubpnvynv7eesik

@fallen jasper Are you able to make a thread in this channel? I would like to start describing my research here without taking over the entire channel. I don't want to just leave the padlet link without describing my work, because I want Rob to be able to give me eyes

[fallen jasper]

Uhhh

I can't, no :c

[coarse dagger]

Okay, I'll just go for it then. Apologies everyone!

So today I started with the Golden Ratio in my research

As the golden ratio is present in A LOT of things, I figured it would probably be connected to A LOT in the EE hunt

So I started looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_designed_with_the_golden_ratio

And at the very bottom of the page is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen

Earlier today I mentioned I've been seeing "MOD" a bunch when I linked to the Modulor #easter-eggs message

I started seeing mod in Stockhausen immediately

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_modulation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musique_concrète (NOTE: CONCRETE, made with CaCO3)

Musique concrete has a potential connection to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism (not sure about that one)

Looking back at my notes I may have actually found Stockhausen starting from Alpha Centauri

The wikipedia page for Alpha Centauri claims that only https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius and Canopus outshine it.

Composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, who wrote a piece called Sirius, is claimed to have said on several occasions that he came from a planet in the Sirius system.[151][152] To Stockhausen, Sirius stood for "the place where music is the highest of vibrations" and where music had been developed in the most perfect way."

Then, looking at Stockhausen I found the previously mentioned connections, and more:

He died on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_5 which happens to be the same day as the Feast of Justinian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_of_Ramsey_Island

He was also noted as inspiration for Jefferson Airplane previously brought up as having sung White Rabbit

He was winner of the Polar Music Prize in 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Music_Prize

And forgive me, but I can't seem to find it now, but I believe something either him, or golden ratio, or something else directly connected to him had a direct connection to a specific Aster flower

He was also noted as inspiration for Pink Floyd who I've previously connected to CaCO3 and multiple other connections here #easter-eggs message

But the real kicker which started unlocking lots of paths for me was when I started researching another band he influenced: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orb

The Orb has worked under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Records

There are connections to both the planet Mercury:

The Orb released the Metallic Spheres album in October 2010, featuring David Gilmour of Pink Floyd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_Spheres
and Mercury from mythology:
From its inception until the mid-1990s, the winged head of Mercury was the label's trademark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(mythology)

Mercury connects to Jupiter, which connects to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur_(small_Solar_System_body)

Speaking of jupiter, the 3 white ovals reminded me of pearls and our 3 circles from T1F

Another connection between The Orb and Jupiter:

Also in the summer of 1994 the Orb provided music for The Jupiter Collision, the BBC's brief info series about the Shoemaker-Levy comet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker–Levy_9
I didn't do sufficient research on Shoemaker, I suspect there are more connections than just Jupiter.

The Orb has a single https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Fluffy_Clouds, clouds reminding me of the hidden clouds in the background of T1F, as well as the clouds of Jupiter!

LOL just searched clouds on the Jupiter wiki to make sure I wasn't talking nonsense:

Calculations suggest that helium drops separate from metallic hydrogen at a radius of 60,000 km (37,000 mi) (11,000 km (6,800 mi) below the cloud tops) and merge again at 50,000 km (31,000 mi) (22,000 km (14,000 mi) beneath the clouds).[80] Rainfalls of diamonds have been suggested to occur, as well as on Saturn[81] and the ice giants Uranus and Neptune.[82]

Diamond rain on Jupiter

The Orb also performed under record label Inter-Modo AKA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAU!_Mr._Modo_Recordings, a label which also featured released from artists Sun Electric and Blue Pearl (CALCIUM CARBONATE)

Remember how we had a wallpaper called Iseult Chill?

Well one of the genre's of music The Orb made was Chill-out music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chill-out_music

Also mentioned in The Orb's wiki is band KLF's album Chill Out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chill_Out_(KLF_album)

KLF could probably use more research, but they and their album both have connections back to Pink Floyd; who I'd like to reiterate has a song called Shine on You Crazy Diamond.

The Wikipedia page for Chill-out (the genre) also mentions:

The popularity of chill-out subsequently expanded to dedicated satellite radio channels
Our previous satellite connections are numerous

The Orb has collaborated with another band named System 7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_7_(band)

System 7 produced an album called Golden Section... which wouldn't you know it? ITS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE GOLDEN RATIO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Section_(album)

Another album from System 7 is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_7 which is Uranus, and I'm pretty sure all of the planets are connections at this point

On the album Planet 7 is a song called "Love Mission - Mission Love" (@pure loom stay tuned we've got more Love/Romance connections as well as connections to your big picture thoughts here: #easter-eggs message)

From their Wikipedia page, System 7 has multiple connections to the band Orbital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_(band)

Now Orbital has a song "Halcyon" (later remixed to "Halcyon + On + On") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halcyon_(Orbital_song)

"Halcyon" is a song written and performed by Orbital, dedicated to Paul Hartnoll's mother, who was addicted to the tranquilliser Halcion (Triazolam) for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triazolam

Triazolam, sold under the brand name Halcion among others, is a central nervous system (CNS) depressant tranquilizer

Another CNS (Central Nervous System) connection!

The main pharmacological effects of triazolam are the enhancement of the neurotransmitter GABA at the GABAA receptor.
More connections to AB/BA/ABBA

Back to Orbital... They're known for wearing... Torch... Glasses? What are those?

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/9lXJv29wevf6T-UB3yqWLyhN9kZ-kBd_WLdD_QoYCDM/https/media.tenor.com/B_6Y5fWhiYMAAAPo/yes-simon-cowell.mp4

That's right, Alpha Centauri baybeeeeee

In 2000 the single "Beached" was released from the soundtrack to the film The Beach, mixing the brothers' (Orbitals) musical style with a melody by Angelo Badalamenti and the words of Leonardo DiCaprio from the film.

Annnnddd we're back to the Titanic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Badalamenti was also under the Mercury label

Early single Choice samples a speech against militarization from Crucifix's "Annihilation"
Crucifix connecting us back to cross

[tranquil ivy]

Lulz you spend too much time in here haha, keep doing what you do tho

[coarse dagger]

And a little detour back to Halcyon by the Orbitals:

The album reached #28 on the UK album charts, staying in the chart for 15 weeks. "Halcyon" was remixed for the album, as "Halcyon + On + On". Versions of this song played live by the band have incorporated diverse samples, including "You Give Love a Bad Name" by the band Bon Jovi, "Heaven Is a Place on Earth" by Belinda Carlisle, and in 2004 "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by the band The Darkness.

Two more love connections for ya' RhB

Now that's almost it for my research. One odd thing before I go to something I think might be big

I found this book about The Orb which I think may be a silly connection to Babylonian?
https://www.scribd.com/book/500780758/Babble-on-an-ting-Alex-Paterson-s-Incredible-Journey-Beyond-the-Ultraworld-with-The-Orb

Couldn't find much info on it though

And for the thing I think might be big:

Back to System 7

They've got an album called Phoenix

In 2006 they were approached by Rumiko Tezuka, the daughter of famed manga pioneer Osamu Tezuka, to see if they were interested in making musical interpretations of her father's Phoenix manga graphic novels. Rumiko had first become interested in System 7[23] after seeing them perform at the Miyajima festival. This project excited System 7 and it led directly to their album Phoenix

Now the manga Phoenix as these Arcs which reminded me a lot of the connections @pure loom was starting to make here #easter-eggs message https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(manga)

Dawn

Future

Yamato (Space)

Universe

Hō-ō (Karma)

Resurrection

Robe of Feathers (Civil War in English version)

Nostalgia

Turbulent Times (Also Civil War in English version)

Life

Strange Beings

and Sun

The timeline table also mentions Egypt, Greece, and Rome. All of which I've seen many connection to:

And I think that's it for my research for the day

Again, all of these connections are drawn in my Padlet. Oddly all of them seem to both transcend and connect the sub-tiers to me, so IDK if this is all related to T1F, or if it's related to diamond clues, or what

https://padlet.com/TheLulz/getting-lost-in-rob-s-sauce-soubpnvynv7eesik

Oh, I missed a couple connections.
Stockhausen analyzed Debussy's work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Debussy
And they were both born on the same day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_22 (not the same year though)

Debussy is definitely related to Modernism

And another Mod connection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music)
Connects to diatonic/Aeolian
and also connects to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_music

Modern musicological practice has extended the concept of mode to earlier musical systems, such as those of Ancient Greek music, Jewish cantillation, and the Byzantine system of octoechoi, as well as to other non-Western types of music.

Oh and I think the last connection I missed:

The Resurrection arc of Phoenix (the manga) inspired the lyrical theme of the 2018 song "M.D.O." by heavy metal band Lovebites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovebites_(band)
More love for RhB

I am now open for questions

[winged marlin]

cheesus riced thats alot

Do you think these are all mostly tertiary and secondary things just further reinforcing connections and key terms we have?

It's almost as if you spent your 9-5 today playing in the AR conspiracy space....

(I live with Lulz and am gently razzing, not trying to be mean)

[coarse dagger]

I don't really know... I've only been here for T1E and T1F, but it seems like the connections here are at least related to both of those tiers as well as other tiers AFAIK from searching the discord.

[winged marlin]

What's your colorcoding for points in your lost in the sauce padlet?

[coarse dagger]

Oh yeah, I should add a legend!
But for now:
Green is stuff we've already known to be important
Black is just research I've done.
And blue are what I feel to be important new anchor points connecting a lot of things together. Potentially primary/secondary clues

[subtle drum]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

#easter-eggs in a nutshell

[winged marlin]

accurate

Have you seen this animation of the Pepe scene? https://youtu.be/peUe-82Qgs4

[subtle drum]

No and it looks magnificent

[coarse dagger]

LITERALLY ME!

[winged marlin]

(Sorry for the tangential post but I absoluterly love this animator)\

[coarse dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-twitch-wtf-wtaf-omfg-gif-13953148

[subtle drum]

S-tier

[coarse dagger]

If I get no 👀 I'm checking into a mental hospital

[winged marlin]

https://www.kapwing.com/videos/64a64b1c1d2794001f4f22ff

sorry cant post mp4 in here the link loads slow AF

[coarse dagger]

From @winged marlin

Also from @winged marlin :

🤣

[winged marlin]

Really wishing I still had the full adobe suite so I could make higher quality versions of these extreemely specific and niche memes

[coarse dagger]

Seriously though, we may have to break down and pay out the nose for Creative Cloud

Hmm... I thought I saw Titan in my research today

[coarse dagger]

Oh yeah, I'm just now looking into a connection I never ended up researching after I opened the tab:
Joe Hisaishi is was the composer for My Neighbor Totoro:

Hisaishi was inspired by the contemporary composers Terry Riley, Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Karlheinz Stockhausen, and John Cage, and described Miyazaki's films as "rich and personally compeling". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro

Totoro shares somewhat of a formfactor with nama tama

A main-belt asteroid that was discovered on December 31, 1994, was named 10160 Totoro.

In 2013, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eoperipatus_totoro, a species of velvet worm that was discovered in Vietnam, was named after Totoro. Following the request of the paper's authors, the species was named for the character because he "uses a many-legged animal as a vehicle, which according to the collectors resembles a velvet worm".

Like other velvet worms in this genus, this species exhibits lecithotrophic ovoviviparity; that is, mothers in this genus retain yolky eggs in their uteri.

The generic name Eoperipatus is derived from an Ancient Greek combining form of Ἠώς (ēṓs), meaning "DAWN", and peripatos, meaning "walking about".

ANOTHER CONNECTION TO PHOENIX ARCS

[coarse dagger]

From the My neighbor Totoro wiki:

Japan, Our Homeland and Mai Mai Miracle (also depicting Japan in the 1950s)

I thought I had seen Mai Mai Miracle mentioned somewhere else... And I had!

[coarse dagger]

Mai Mai Miracle and Phoenix share the same production company Madhouse https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhouse_(company)

When I was trying to find the connection I looked at the disambiguation page for Mai Mai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimai

Which brought me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimai_(video_game_series)
Which has a character with a convenient birthday:

Otohime. Born on August 22 (age 18). Voiced by: Yu Asakawa

Oh, also the game is developed by Sega, connecting to our diamond clue

[worn badger]

Do the old clues from the old tiers actually connect to the new ones?

Or are they separate from each other

I didn’t have much time in the past days but I feel like we are looking for something new and nothing (too much) related to the old tiers

[timid solstice]

this is great haha

[timid solstice]

@coarse dagger when someone posts this gif after your findings you know you've reached a good stage of hunting 🤣
just dont get burnt out... I think you are are the cracking stage where everything looks like a connection

[sharp flame]

They do connect, as sorta a reference

[timid solstice]

the T-rex will be a common one I think Rob said recently

[coarse dagger]

Good to know!

[coarse dagger]

Someone needs to study Rob's brain

... other than us

[coarse dagger]

So far today's research is getting deep into the Occult

[proud minnow]

Hi all.!
How is it going, any progress…?

[sharp flame]

Some... not much 🤣

I mean it depends on if the answer is Proxima Centauri or not...

[proud minnow]

OK… today I found out who changed my name in the script… ._.

[sharp flame]

go on... 👀

[proud minnow]

Brilliant.!

(this is one of the reasons why I love embark, just such an amazing culture.! )

[sharp flame]

Robbie Thunderstorm was super unexpected haha

[pure loom]

My money is either on Jonny or one of the other founders 😂

[proud minnow]

No it’s not, and that makes it even more hilarious.! The person can come clean in this channel… ._.

[pure loom]

Haha. Intriguing!

Long odds on Gustav

[floral axle]

My guess is on the flamingo.

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-25824935

[proud minnow]

it’s not, hehe… ._.

[sharp flame]

So.. Rob.. would you say the answer to this tier is... obvious? Easy, even?

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-castiel-awkward-silence-silence-gif-12769960

[worn badger]

collab when?

[pure loom]

Just checking... do we refer to you as Saint Robbie Thunderstorm now?

[neon stream]

... ._. _

[neon stream]

Writing that in Discord is difficult 😅

[pure loom]

hahaha

[neon stream]

Try it 😈

[timid solstice]

… ._. _

[pure loom]

... .__. __

[neon stream]

Yep... Discord 😅

[pure loom]

whoa

[proud minnow]

I think it’s pretty obvious, but on the other hand I’ve been planning and thinking about this for almost a year… but looking at my board, hmm I would say it is a little bit easier than 0vif0rm… but the clues are more complex and starts further out from the center this time… so perhaps it will be slightly harder… ._.

[proud minnow]

No I don’t… hehe.!

[neon stream]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[neon stream]

TL;DR ☝🏻

[timid solstice]

Only a year pff

Further of from the center… Sounds like starting out of the solar system

[sharp flame]

Proxima Centauri... Further from the centre...

we talkin bout Poles again 👀?

[coarse dagger]

I think I've made a bunch more progress today... Still need to document it here tonight.

Although I thought I made a lot of progress yesterday, but didn't get any 👀, so I might just actually be insane.

[neon stream]

Questioning your own sanity is just part of the process 😛

[coarse dagger]

Then consider me a hotdog because I'm quite processed

[sharp flame]

Wow lulz I just read through most of that

sometimes it feels like we are throwing 100 darts blindly until we get a connection

sometimes all 100 darts were in the wrong direction 😭

I'm gonna look into some of the clues again

[coarse dagger]

Pretty sure I'm still in the right direction for something, even if it's not tier F.

I'm hoping Rob just hasn't given out eyes yet.

[coarse dagger]

I think he's talking about being further from the center of A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules from the Centre of the Ultraworld

Going to add the Padlet notes I showed and talked about yesterday to my Obsidian notebook, then I'll work on documenting today's notes here and into Obsidian as well.

So much copying! Tomorrow's my last day of work before @winged marlin and I move from Boston to Reno, so no more copying my notes from work into other locations going forward

[spare steppe]

👀 🤭

[sharp flame]

MIDAS

it was you...

[spare steppe]

Couldn't believe that made it in to the Q&A 😂

[sharp flame]

Robbie Thunderstorm will live on forever in my heart

[proud minnow]

LOVE U MiDAS.! (and THX for your MTM..!)

[coarse dagger]

I already have hints from Midas in my notes today! I just finished putting yesterday's notes into Obsidian........

But it's 3AM

I'm developing a backlog

I suppose I'll leave some quick Midas notes before I go

Publius Ovidius Naso.

[sharp flame]

I can see Midas, with all the gold stuff

[coarse dagger]

-> Ovid

Connections to Apollo (Mercury)

More notes to come tomorrow!

P.S. Rob, have you ever been to Papua New Guinea? Or maybe one of the mods has?

[sharp flame]

Sounds like a cool place

[pure loom]

Comedy gold!

[sharp flame]

Lmao good one

[proud minnow]

Everyone wrote a short bio before MTM to help Dusty to write introductions and descriptions... I was 100% sure that Dusty did that to throw me off, and she was 100% I did it as a joke... ._.

[pure loom]

The perfect set up!

[sharp flame]

I can imagine the confused look on BOTH your faces when it got to that part

[pure loom]

I think it should start a trend. Robbie Thunderstorm ⛈️ and Dusty Tornado 🌪️ 😂

[sharp flame]

Dusty Sand Devil

[neon stream]

Great meteorologist names 😂

[sharp flame]

am I just blind or can I not tell what this is supposed to say]

today is an EE day..

let's do this

can't make out what this is

3 glints.. like the three glints in the eyes?

[nimble iron]

Looks like planets

[fallen jasper]

I got a feeling we get another image today

[sharp flame]

oo 👀

[fallen jasper]

Average time between images is around about 5-7 days iirc

[nimble iron]

iirc?

[sharp flame]

Rob seeing this, not planning to release anything:

"why are they making me do this..."

[fallen jasper]

I'm actually gonna check what the average was for T1E

So I can be surprised when the average is not a week lol

[nimble iron]

What does iirc mean doe

[sharp flame]

if i recall correctly

[nimble iron]

Ah kk

[fallen jasper]

Average time between images is 7.8 days

[wanton sundial]

This guy maths

[sharp flame]

theorytime

the constellation 'centaur'

could be pointing to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur_(small_Solar_System_body)

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message
Lots of connections to it

[sharp flame]

Yeah.. I think we need other clues to really confirm any directions we take

46 204 might still need to be used

[sharp flame]

time to revisit this

also this rectangle

308 x 97

[hidden nacelle]

there is this park in middle of that, not sure if this is anything tho

[sharp flame]

308 + 97 = 405

1 away..

WAIT

Rob.. no way...

308 - 97

= 211

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/211_Isolda

[hidden nacelle]

79...

[sharp flame]

no way this connects...

to the sponsor though??

[hidden nacelle]

Iseult of Ireland hmmm

[hidden nacelle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan

ye

[sharp flame]

🧠

weird that iseul-t is korea-based then

[hidden nacelle]

i have never heard of Iseult

[sharp flame]

well the legend is decently obscure

[fallen jasper]

[hidden nacelle]

was this on Monaco?

[sharp flame]

not that I recall

[coarse dagger]

Who needs more clues when I have

Wikipediaaaaaa

[sharp flame]

and you are wielding it like a weapon 💪

[timid solstice]

dont thnk we got a react for that

[sharp flame]

Well Rob hasn't been on yet

[sharp flame]

wheres the closest react to that Thunder message

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

heres the message

this is the first react after

[sharp flame]

got it got it

we'll see if he reacts this time

but best case scenario it already confirms what we know

[timid solstice]

anything else we could have missed?

the embark box and the 46 204 was probably the only things we didnt make sense of

[sharp flame]

Bottom left

confirmed to be a clue

[timid solstice]

or confirmed not to be an error

[sharp flame]

same thing

unless it's something other than a clue

[sharp flame]

object here

[coarse dagger]

inb4 "not an error, not a clue, just poor aesthetic design choices" 🤣

Jk, all of their design is wonderful 👍

[coarse dagger]

Ooo some good connections here!

[sharp flame]

I mean just to clarify this wasn't in Monaco

[hidden nacelle]

dont think that was a connection

[sharp flame]

..yet

[coarse dagger]

You responding to fish or me?

[hidden nacelle]

you

[sharp flame]

so deadpan 😭

[hidden nacelle]

thats me

[sharp flame]

the iseul-t stuff is good though I think

intentional or not

I remember when we found the iseul-t asteroid a looong time ago and said we'd save it for later

*Isolde technically

[coarse dagger]

Well I've got notes on Christian Cross, Kings, and love
Iseult I don't yet have notes on but I should do.
And I think Tristan has started coming up enough that I should begin noting it.

[sharp flame]

honestly most things I haven't been noting

cause I feel like the clues we have are pretty direct

[pure loom]

They are, but Rob saying that this tier started further out - ie Proxima Centauri is probably a quaternary clue, means we need to find a path that pushes away from that, like the parents and child one, or something else.

[sharp flame]

For sure, I just wanna warn you guys to not get tooo metaphorical

esp looking at last tier haha

[pure loom]

But parts of the last tier were completely metaphorical - Titanic, for instance.

[fallen jasper]

Might want to look at the people related to it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_T._A._Innes

[pure loom]

Yeah, a good way to move away from the clue 👍

[fallen jasper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henderson_(astronomer)

Connects back to Scotland

[sharp flame]

Titanic was tertiary in my eyes. Titanic -> Ice -> Crystal -> (Calcium Carbonate)

[pure loom]

“He was the founding director of a meteorological observatory in Johannesburg,” Jo’berg could lead to Vredefort impact structure (crater) or gold.

[pure loom]

Equally, Titanic -> cracked -> eggshell -> calcium carbonate. Anyway, I think let’s just keep an open mind and we know Proxima Centauri ain’t it.

[sharp flame]

Haha cracked I didn't even think about

I'm gonna look at Proxima Centauri too