easter-eggs

[neon stream]

Then join us 😛

[strong hare]

can someone give me the map of the lvls of EE? I saw it on a video from RockhoundBlack, but since then idk where you at

[fallen jasper]

https://padlet.com/Kyne/2l7qa8t74gbnvijy

:)

[strong hare]

oh thx!!! :3

[neon stream]

There's a Padlet for the tiers and a Doc with info about the hunt

[strong hare]

omg so many things

[fallen jasper]

I've also got Fel4d's document linked so it's easy to go to

Although I am working on a replacement for Flex4d's guide that's a bit more streamlined, for posterity's sake.

[sharp flame]

https://padlet.com/Kyne

[fallen jasper]

Yeah every other padlet I've made is there

[strong hare]

ok if i ever get to read all of this to keep up with the EE I help yall out. I want to be helpful

[fallen jasper]

I've got one for Tier B, C, D. And then a timeline for THE FINALS and ARC Raiders.

[neon stream]

There are also pinned messages with Flex's summaries of each image, those are really helpful too

[strong hare]

btw, is the finals related in someway to arc raiders?

[fallen jasper]

Probably not, but possibly.

[strong hare]

i've always had that feeling that the finals is a game within arc raiders

[neon stream]

Yeah, that's an idea that's been mentioned

[fallen jasper]

One of the logo's shown is the same one ARC in ARC Raiders uses

[neon stream]

☝🏻😂

[strong hare]

ooo, ok i like this. I'll let you guys be and when i get all this in my head all the things read, then i join you

[fallen jasper]

My theory is that one of the corporate sponsors of THE FINALS is Arc Corp or something.

[strong hare]

I SAWWW. like on the helmet right?

[fallen jasper]

Like how ULTOR in Saints row is a giant company that controls most of Stilwater, but in Red Faction they're the company that originally settled Mars.

[timid solstice]

In no way is it meant to be a guide haha, its a document really for future egg hunters if they care really that interested in how things went down.

[fallen jasper]

Yeah

[sharp flame]

to be fair this game is all about Corps

[timid solstice]

I would have loved to know how things in BF1 were solved like the peace keeper or BF4 phantom program

[sharp flame]

Discovery Corp is something I'm really interested in

[timid solstice]

but all that remains really is the final walkthrough guides

[sharp flame]

I.. was doing that a while back

not successfully haha

[sharp flame]

ah, right, different to what I was doing

[neon stream]

What I like about Flex's Doc is that it shows the whole process. It's like a more organised version of the Padlet

[sharp flame]

also I never realised the ISO appeared earlier, gives it credibility for some of my theories now

[neon stream]

It's like:
The Padlet is the actual story
The Doc is the narration of the story by someone that was there
Any TL;DR is the Hollywood adaptation, which might lose the essence 😂

[fallen jasper]

Mine is more just a short overview that shows how we got to the answer, the clues that were relevant to solving the tier, and what the clues meant to the overall tier.

[neon stream]

Yeah, it's good to have those too. But I don't think it should replace something like the Doc

[sharp flame]

oh, yep, what I was going for

I think I should be able to pump T1B and C out and share them

[neon stream]

It's good to have all these summaries, with different levels of detail, so people in the future can choose how much they want to be informed about how things went

[sharp flame]

yep. I'd say mine is definitely more streamlined

[fallen jasper]

Replace is probably not the right word but for the purposes of my Padlet it makes more sense to link the simplified version.

[sharp flame]

than Kyne's

[sharp flame]

honestly the knowledge of just the big themes should often be enough

I've only ever gone

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

when I've noticed a previous answer/big theme pop up

[neon stream]

Yeah, just link everything, and let people choose how much detail they want 😂

Btw: Thanks to everyone that takes the time to do these summaries. I would @ you guys, but I'm afraid to miss any of you

[sharp flame]

we'll always need a high-detail one for when that final challenge comes around, anyway 😭

[fallen jasper]

Also going through Flex's document I've realized there's a few timeline errors

Which nobody would've noticed if it wasn't for the fact I've went through and tracked everything

[sharp flame]

Power in numbers haha

Once we get more people onboard we can spread the load, so no single person has to do all this

[fallen jasper]

The two statue EE photos weren't uploaded on the same day

I'm sure that's probably a time zone issue more than a timeline issue but still

[timid solstice]

oh really?

any thing out of order is marked with * this stuff came later * but fits with the image

[sharp flame]

oh, a single day 😭

[fallen jasper]

One of them got released <t:1662661320:f>
The second one got released
<t:1662728580:f>

[timid solstice]

Oh I see I wrote" later that day"

[neon stream]

I guess that was "later that day" in some timezone 😂

"a few hours later", I guess would work everywhere

[sharp flame]

within 24 hours, so yeah

[neon stream]

https://tenor.com/view/a-few-moments-later-gif-20230109

[timid solstice]

Yeah I think need to stick to Swed time haha

[timid solstice]

BtW Dwarf did mention Galileo's birthday from the numbers given but yeah it was confirmed after with the ISO 8601 clue

[fallen jasper]

Yeah

[sharp flame]

Interesting also, eccentricity of an orbit comes up a lot. is also known as 'ovalness' of an orbit

waiiit

I was wondering why Kepler's Supernova seemed so familiar

which is super similar to Aethusa 1064

not quite the same though 🥹

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricity

[sick stone]

Just realised the first image referenced here is from 1482, so both 48 and 82

[sharp flame]

Interesting coincidence

Could be what the clue is pointing to

[timid solstice]

what was all the talk about zeros earlier?

I just started to play boneworks and its made by stress level zero

ITS PATRUDING!

[sick stone]

but it's mirrored

well, I guess you could argue so is the 82/48 clue

I'm a bit lost if I'm being honest, don't know where to go from here, but we'll figure it out! I will look more into the map projection wiki tomorrow when I'm rested.

[timid solstice]

The friend we need gave us "zero"

[sick stone]

U mean the namatama with a glowing Ø?

[timid solstice]

yeah

[sharp flame]

idk

doesn't look like just a 0

[sick stone]

I personally believe it's not a 0. If anything I believe it is either 'null', the empty set, uppercase Phi or it is just symbolic; as in "orbit" or "accretion disk" for example.

[sharp flame]

it's more of an 0 than a O

so that does rule out quite a bit

[sick stone]

we know it links to 0 (Ø=0=o), but that doesnt mean they are the exact same. They are equal, but not necessary the same, because exactly the same is technically a different mathematical symbol

[sharp flame]

was there a clue with an Ascii or other version of Ø?

found it

unicode 2205 yeah

Ø = o

what on earth do we do though 😭

[sick stone]

If the map projection angle pans out it will narrow down our search by a lot. If we are looking for something along the equator it can map to a 1D line instead of us looking for 1 thing in 3D space, lowering our search space by orders of magnitude

Speculation, sure, but it is what I tell my self to not lose hope 🥲

[sharp flame]

we gotta take it as literally as possible

holographic Ø

[timid solstice]

I meant it gave us "zero" progress 😅

[sharp flame]

man I keep looking at this and scratching my head haha

[pure loom]

I was thinking about supernovas recently as being like time 0 for a star if you count down.

[sick stone]

https://tenor.com/view/delusion-michael-arrested-development-gob-bluth-illusion-michael-gif-19919749

[sharp flame]

The answer is virtual/online in some way

and is directly connected to Ø

[sick stone]

Took ages finding the right gif

[sharp flame]

coulda sworn it was illusion

[sick stone]

No, it’s a trick

I get paid in candy

I’m Tim the enchanter, after all

[pure loom]

Yes, and oviform got confirmed by both Rob and Dusty almost immediately, so I’m thinking “egg-shaped” is very close to the answer

[sharp flame]

I'm just thinking the A slots in somewhere

it has to

[timid solstice]

could be the female of

[pure loom]

Oh. Lol. I never saw the A!!

[sharp flame]

love Arrested Development with all my soul

[sick stone]

The greatest comedy show ever made

[sharp flame]

Yeah, Oviform A, or Oviforma

Oviforma is Romanian, but that doesn't fit anything we've had so far

[pure loom]

Or AVIFORM - in the shape of a bird?

An aeroplane?

[sharp flame]

there are a few species which end in oviforma

actually

[pure loom]

Some good paths! I’m back in a couple of hours.

[sharp flame]

Acanthella oviforma

is the only one that comes up actually

1989 discovery

spicing up my recap recap a bit

[tranquil ivy]

Omg we were first in something

[sharp flame]

New Zealand 🥳

some of the patterns in the images kinda look like this?

[tranquil ivy]

Australia 🥳

Japan 🥳

[sharp flame]

wait you're from Japan?

[terse ivy]

im 0.01 perecnt japanese

les go

im japanese

[sharp flame]

(Cunningham's Law 😈)

[terse ivy]

ooo

brains

fish isnt your name samuel

[sharp flame]

no it's fish

[terse ivy]

isnt your real name (one in birth certificate ) josh

[sharp flame]

no it isn't it's samuel

[terse ivy]

fuck

[sharp flame]

your name is literally frucksty

[terse ivy]

fish isnt your discord password 123

[sharp flame]

no it's 12345678 dummy

[terse ivy]

your name is litterally sea creature

[sharp flame]

wait...

[terse ivy]

wait did we solve the tier?

oh no

i didnt realise how far back that was

[sharp flame]

lmao

[tranquil ivy]

No lmao just congratulating them

I'm Australian

[sharp flame]

YESSSS

[tranquil ivy]

Well from australia

[sharp flame]

Cunningham's Law strikes again

[terse ivy]

not like he said that alot of times already

[terse ivy]

so ur ethnicity is new zealand?

[sharp flame]

bruh

[tranquil ivy]

No I'm Lithuanian but I was born and live in Australia

[terse ivy]

ayy we close then

[tranquil ivy]

In fact I don't know if I have any part of Australia in me lmao

[terse ivy]

daaamn

[tranquil ivy]

But hey I live it here and wouldn't choose to live anywhere else

Love*

[terse ivy]

spiders<

[tranquil ivy]

Spiders are easy

Snakes you gotta watch out for

[terse ivy]

snakes are easy

[tranquil ivy]

You ever been bitten by a inland taipan?

[terse ivy]

yes

[tranquil ivy]

Gg

[terse ivy]

isnt it that cool fish

or smthing

(never heard of it)

[tranquil ivy]

No most dangerous snake in the world lmao kills you in a below a hour of bitting you

[sharp flame]

oh

[terse ivy]

bro this snake aint even glass proof

[tranquil ivy]

You're not glass proof

[terse ivy]

well not me , i bet ii can survive 10 of its bites

[terse ivy]

i am

[tranquil ivy]

Let's take this to #🥚┇off-topic quickly

[terse ivy]

i mean glass is anti snake but not me

[sharp flame]

so satisfying to see it drain

okay all this chronicling is hard

also am realising how little we've actually found in these images 😭

[terse ivy]

how would you know its little if its all we found

maybe that is all there is to find

[neon stream]

I saw so many messages that I thought you guys had solved it 😭

[terse ivy]

there better be a snickers bar at the end of this easter egg hunt

[terse ivy]

oh shi

[sharp flame]

yeah

[neon stream]

We've only found the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg

[sharp flame]

man I miss when we had Beethoven No.79, Sharona releasing in 1979 and FKramer's 79AD

those were the times

and now we have about 20 different Os and 0s and 10 different ∅s

if only the answer was ∅

[terse ivy]

have u tried 0

[sharp flame]

wait no way

it worked

[terse ivy]

i swear all of the answers to this tier have only been numbers or something to do with numbers

[sharp flame]

cept this one

I am almost certain it is a word/phrase

maybe coded

[terse ivy]

what if the word is zero

[sharp flame]

wait no way

it worked

[neon stream]

Shhh, don't say when you find a pattern or SR will change strategies 😂

[terse ivy]

mb mb

[sharp flame]

I think there's supposed to be a pattern

but the form of the answer has been constantly shifting

[terse ivy]

its the only thing i noticed when i first checked out this whole easter egg thing

but didnt think much of it cus ik my small brain cant figure out anything

watch the final tier be in mandarin or smthing

NOO

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki

[terse ivy]

FISH

i have undeafened

[sharp flame]

People who made the 'empty set symbol'

also wrote something called Elements

[neon stream]

I hope Rob follows the "English Only" rule of the server 😂

[terse ivy]

lmao

[sharp flame]

technically, Empty Set is the only form we've seen the ∅ Named by the clue itself

so maybe it's just Empty Set haha

and 404 is not found

o = ∅

means no Os

which explains why there are no Os in Rob's messages

O = 0 = o = 0 could just mean all ovals the same

therefore o = ∅ means no ovals

and now what

[terse ivy]

FISh

not agian

i will remember this

[sharp flame]

have it your way

I'll enjoy my own music thanks

[terse ivy]

lmao

ill listen to that

[sharp flame]

elements --> set theory stuff

[terse ivy]

i only know 4 elements

fire , water , earth and air

[sharp flame]

it's known as html &empty

[boreal trench]

maybe we should look at the fifth element, aether, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element), it an old element that they used to think existed, and was used in alchemy. it was meant to be the material that filled the universe.

[sharp flame]

proposed by Mendeleev, yeah, very interesting

that, and Coronium

I was leaning towards Coronium since it was named after the Sun and the "royal" clues and also that it was supposedly found in Vesuvius at 79AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronium

[pure loom]

How would it tie into oviform though?

[sharp flame]

it doesn't

yet

just stating all the connections it already has haha

[pure loom]

This is the attitude we need in this server haha

[sharp flame]

obviously when we find something that connects everything, all this will be over I hope

[pure loom]

At this stage Rob should be the answer then

[boreal trench]

if this is what the answer is about im gonna be so mad, i literally spent months researching the fifth element for the branding for my esports team that i ran.

[sharp flame]

During the total solar eclipse of 7 August 1869.. (coronium was discovered)

(Mendeleevs input was in 1902)

1869 was also a clue last time

Mendeleev's first Periodic table

so obviously this coulda just been for last tier

[boreal trench]

coronium "an element that 19th century scientists believed might exist in the corona of the sun", i guess that would link to Copernicus

[pure loom]

Nothing worse than the answer being something you should be an expert in. My worst nightmare!

[sharp flame]

but the Solar aspect and the eclipse stuff ties into this one I think

however, all the solar eclipse and sun-viewing clues could pour into the Camera Obscura path

originally intended for viewing the sun

[pure loom]

Potentially, although the interference patterns we see everywhere would be right at the fringe of that, if they’re a central clue

[sharp flame]

In 1724, French-Italian astronomer Giacomo F. Maraldi recognized that the aura visible during a solar eclipse belongs to the Sun, not to the Moon

[pure loom]

Also Eureka/Mars Stadium

[sharp flame]

*he was the nephew of Giovanni Cassini, and worked most of his life at the Paris Observatory *

He also helped with the survey based on the Paris Meridian.

[pure loom]

Maybe we should re-examine that

[sharp flame]

haha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot

Poisson spot = Fish spot

eclipse clues also could be eclipsing binaries

Pinning this for later research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Observatory 📌

In 1835 Arago used this telescope to observe the return of Halley's Comet that year.

*Sometimes Giovanni Cassini (1671–1712) and Jacques Cassini (1712–1756) are listed as "Directors" retrospectively. *

(At Saint Veran) A coronograph was in operation there for ten years

[timid solstice]

with all the talk of fifth element I went back to my comment and got excited @pure loom 👀

[neon stream]

I think we should replace the "👀" with "🤔" in this chat, but Rob and Dusty might change strategy 😅

[sharp flame]

it's what I've been trying to do at least

[timid solstice]

yeah makes sense, I've been using it too if something makes me think "hey, that could be the right track"

[neon stream]

Yeah, I try to react with either "🤔" or "☝🏻"

[sharp flame]

I wanna call attention to this, which we managed to somehow get from the very first image

[tulip matrix]

e-e

[sharp flame]

hello there

[timid solstice]

Duh stop playing games and go down some rabbit holes

[tulip matrix]

hola senor fish

[sharp flame]

waiiit

extending the screenshot from my message back in Image 1

[tulip matrix]

I've been popping in here and there
Been down a hole or two

[sharp flame]

Berkeley, California!

missed that the first time,

Brown Eyed Girl, Scorpio 404, Berkeley, California. Was there all along

[tulip matrix]

but Tarkov has wiped and I must live my destiny

Did you know that Sean Connery was offered the role of The Architect in The Matrix movies? Sadly he turned it down.

[sharp flame]

shame

[tulip matrix]

OG double oh seven

[pure loom]

Discord said you’d been playing for 11 hours the other day. Do you have shares in BSG?

[spring gust]

You guys play tarkov?

[broken flame]

Nah but I’ve heard it has a massive learning range

If that makes sense

[pure loom]

Duhmeister plays a lot of it. I played a bit with him until BSG decided they didn't want to let us play together from different regions

[pure loom]

It does, and is probably most enjoyable when you dedicate a lot of time to it (I've seen other creators talk about 10+ hours a week as a minimum).

[tulip matrix]

I am invested in many ways lol. My monetary investment paid off about 4000 hours ago

[sick stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Notable_lines after reading the most boring wikipedia page I've ever read in my life (skimmed the last half to keep my sanity) here's what's noteworthy: It connects to grids, superellipse, geometry, geometric projections, geodesy, coordinates, as well as mentions where Haumea *and pinhole cameras are mentioned as examples of what it is/is not. In addition if we take Ø to represent the uppercase of Phi it connects to longitude notation, which could point in the direction of something linked to the equator.

Also, there is a connection between planet nine and David Bowie :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Nine "In 2018, Batygin has also informally suggested, based on a petition on Change.org, to name the planet after singer David Bowie, and to name any potential moons of the planet after characters from Bowie's song catalogue, such as Ziggy Stardust or Starman."

[sharp flame]

Egg of Columbus, I think this could come into play too. Columbus is very involved with the shape of the earth not being flat

twenty øne piløts (a music duo) come from Columbus, Ohio

Also interesting that the R in R0 can mean Radius in geometry

[sick stone]

? Any specific reason other than it being an "R"?

[sharp flame]

Cause the 0s we've had are all ovals and stuff

and R0 in maths means the radius of 0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radius

like this

It is a thing in maths I promise

[vital cove]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-spiderman-far-from-home-everywhere-i-go-i-see-his-face-i-see-his-face-everywhere-i-go-gif-22706003

[sick stone]

If that's the R you are talking about it is specifically for Nominal Solar Radius. In maths radius is usually denoted by lower case R

Although, that might be mathematical norm dependent nationality; that I'm not sure of

[sharp flame]

That's where I remembered it from 😭

[slender lodge]

XD

[pure loom]

I’ll take another look at this again. I didn’t spot so many connections when first looking at map projections

I think I got onto the South Pole thing pretty quickly from there

[sick stone]

I do not envy you. I'm never going back there, I am traumatised by boredom

https://tenor.com/view/will-you-escuse-me-please-tobias-funke-arrested-development-gif-18793780

[sick stone]

The superellipse is connected through Tobler hyperelliptical, so not too strong a link, but it's there.

[pure loom]

This looks promising with relation to Haumea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobi_ellipsoid

Interesting that one of its satellites is called Namaka

[sick stone]

I thought someone had already looked into Haumea

You thinking we should go back?

[sick stone]

If you are specifically talking about Jacobi ellipsoids I've already read that page, not too many links

[pure loom]

Yeah, I think multiple looks at things that look pretty relevant are good.

[sick stone]

3 if you count haumea

[pure loom]

Yeah, it was more the image that I thought looked like a good fit

[sick stone]

Also had a gander at hydrostatic equilibrium

no luck there either

[pure loom]

Oviform - plus you could interpret the brown patch on it as an “eye”

[sick stone]

yeah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methone_(moon) Space-Namatama here actually checks a new box

If Ø=Phi then we have the axial tilt = 0=Ø

[sharp flame]

I think this was an early reference to ellipses

[sharp flame]

I actually think this is connected (but like at a lower down level)

[sick stone]

yeah, just trying to go back and investigate like RHB is doing

because I honestly have no idea where to go from here

[sharp flame]

We've had plenty of moons named now

moons and other orbiting objects

all of which abide by Kepler's orbit stuff

Sputnik-1 (main clue from image 1) literally means orbiting object

so either our thing is just something that orbits (not super likely to be the whole story) or is tied to orbits as a whole

[sick stone]

Copernicus links to the heliocentric model as well, so more orbit stuff there

[sharp flame]

orbits could point directly at Heliocentricity perhaps?

we can combine it with the Sun clues

[sick stone]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/9th-planet-x-1.3412070

use command F r whatever u do on your system and search egg on that article

[sharp flame]

high eccentricity means a very oval orbit, I think the egg connection planned a very long time ago 🕵️

I've tried to look into eccentricity itself (ovalness)

the two-body problem looks a lot like the Vesica Piscis outline we had earlier

hmm

another appearance of the symbol,

in the Elliptic orbit page (confirmed)

[spring gust]

Ok ok, what's your regions

[sick stone]

I think we should make a system to place purposed primary/secondary/tertiary etc. in order. It might help so we can figure out what circles back and what is new. If it would help now I can only imagine it being very helpful in the future levels.

[sharp flame]

yeah I was thinking that a few times

[pure loom]

Australasia

[neon stream]

Yeah, I thought about having something like a Trello with the clues, but it's difficult to know what should lead us where. Like with the symbol (0? Empty set? etc..?) and ovals, what would the primary and secondary be? could both be primaries? I'm worried that it might lead to bias 😅

But I guess that having just a list with the clues would help, without giving them a place

[pure loom]

Both oviform and Eureka/mars stadium being 👀’d suggests to me it’s not far from those

[sharp flame]

All the stadiums seem to primarily feed into this

any other connection I'd consider a more secondary

[neon stream]

And also "stadium" (the shape) is a type of oval

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_(geometry)

[pure loom]

Yeah, it looks like the answer should be an oval something. I’ve looked at so many ovals my eyes are going oval 👀😂

Oval stadiums, oval planetariums with camera obscuras, oval vinyl records, oval architecture

[sharp flame]

they already are 😭

the 👀 is two ovals 🤣

If the colosseum is confirmed to be Ovals, then I'd say the Stadiums are too

[pure loom]

The answer is probably 👀

In binary Roman numerals

👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[neon stream]

Should we go back to the images and look for more clues? I wish I had PS knowledge 😭

[tranquil ivy]

Not the eyes!!

[sharp flame]

okay I cooked this up very briefly

our clues look something like this at the moment

we have main aspects (3 iirc) which need to all lead to one answer, and lots of side ones

we should be able to get this from just the first image-clues

we can use the our current clues to interpret what these first image-clues point to

[neon stream]

The problem is where do we place what we currently have. Something like the symbol (0, empty set, or whatever it is), where would it go? Is it something close to the answer? Is that only one of the 3 primary clues? is it just a secondary clue that we need to interpret in some way to get the primary one? It's good to know the hunt looks like this so we know how to interpret the clues, but I think we'll only be able to see the final shape once we know the answer, and all the pieces of the puzzle align 😅

[sick stone]

We could probably solve a couple actually, by checking which clue has multiple other clues leading to it and not the other way around we can place it as being of a higher degree than the clues leading to it, then use this process on multiple clues, conglomerate, conjoin, conglomerate and conjoin and rinse and repeat. I’ll see if I can make an example tomorrow, because if we solve 1 we could probably infer the rest (except the answer) from there. Thus there will be just a gaping hole we have to fill

[sharp flame]

gonna just gather first-image clues

[neon stream]

Looking forward to the example! I hope it helps us get a better idea of how these things relate 😃

[timid solstice]

The slashed zero glyph is often used to distinguish the digit "zero" ("0") from the Latin script letter "O" anywhere that the distinction needs emphasis, particularly in encoding systems, scientific and engineering applications, computer programming (such as software development), and telecommunications.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

This leads to Homoglyph, some interesting things here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoglyph

I see RHB has been here berfore #easter-eggs message

known as "confusables"
is that us?

This could be useful;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø_(disambiguation)

[sharp flame]

I visit that page twice daily 😭

[timid solstice]

did you see

Ø, Denmark

[sharp flame]

means Island

haven't connected it yet, island = coordinates maybe?

[timid solstice]

Lets connect oval and Island...

hmm took a dark turn: http://wikimapia.org/550507/The-Oval-Island

have we mentioned The Oval Cricket ground?

[sharp flame]

Rockhound did look into Cricket

[timid solstice]

yeah I looked, cant see this reference though

[timid solstice]

what above this page the main one for Ø ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø

[sharp flame]

3 times🥹

[timid solstice]

so reading that, in Namatamas' hand it is not a zero;

Slashed zero is an alternate glyph for the zero character. Its slash does not extend outside the ellipse (except in handwriting)

[sharp flame]

yep

I think it being called 'empty set' should tell us a lot

[timid solstice]

yeah it is more like empty set for sure in type

Did wee flag this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_set

Leads here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory

[neon stream]

I guess it would make sense for it to be the empty set symbol, we had a clue from Dusty that pointed to sets

Or at least that could have been a reference to

That was the message

[pure loom]

The Swedish extra letter does though, doesn’t it?

[timid solstice]

Danish yes, unless you mean another one

[pure loom]

I guess we shouldn’t overlook the obvious, which is that the character in Brown Eyed Girl has headphones and a microphone, which could also be a clue

What if the “D” in 110D831 represents a dash?

http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

There was quite a lot on radio communications between the Huygens probe and Cassini spacecraft.

The significance of an earring on the first character could hint to an audio/radio clue too.

As far as I can tell it’s a bit of an unexplored path for us too. Ovals and radio…

[timid solstice]

hmm im not sure, worth checking that path. I think we were close with cassini ovals now looking at it all again

[boreal trench]

I actually already started making a Trello for this tier but very quickly realised how much time id have to spend to add all the current clues to it, and decided it would probably just be better to do one from the start of the next level. But I personally do think having it laid out in a Trello would help to visualize and organise some of the stuff we have.

[neon stream]

Oh, nice! And for the lists what were you using? the "level" of the clue (primary/secondary/etc) or what it pointed to? 🤔

[timid solstice]

are you able to view this?

https://padlet.com/Flex4d/a2ussq9twicy0jth

[neon stream]

wow yes

[timid solstice]

trying in a "trello" style - not sure how to pull out and link primary/secondary/etc

[boreal trench]

cause its quite easy to move cards in trello i just started organising by themes, and then i was planning on using tags to show the "level"

[timid solstice]

you can copy my lists and paste into trello as new cards I think

[boreal trench]

wow thats a much better layout then the other padlet, at least for going back over previous clues

[timid solstice]

main padlet is the hive mind

[boreal trench]

for this stage I think im just gonna try and use what we have already got, but for the next one I defiantly want to try and make a trello, with it all.

[timid solstice]

We should discuss what we think the 3 primary clues are. I put this in the padlet as the 2 namatamas together contained these 3 things.

1. SATURN / CASSINI HUYGENS
2. OVALS
3. EMPTY SET / NULL

technically, because the o's were missing from oviform, HappyNamaTama_2023 could contain all the primary clues right there.

Just throwing this out there again because of the more recent CD clue;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

Rob react guys!

[timid solstice]

leads from here, cancelled sonic game that contains X and was to be the first sega 3d game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_X-treme

Lead programmer was Ofer Alon who later created Pixologic and Z-Brush!

Date the first CD was created https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l14Znof8TE

[boreal trench]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Saturn#A_Ring "The Encke Gap is a 325-km (200 mile) wide gap within the A ring" (the letters on the confetti VIFRMA, No O's, Oviform A), Saturn XV (Atlas) is in the A ring, Methone the egg moon, also crossed 0 looks like a planet with a ring, I think Saturn is looking really promising

[sharp flame]

Good find!

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-will-ferrell-anchorman-gif-5016662

[sharp flame]

Perhaps..

The Ø is Saturn and the O is it's orbit, or it's ring?

I mean.. if you look at Saturn from the top down, it would look like an O with the rings just outlining it

Maybe O=0=o=0 are just different angles as an object orbits

Maybe O and Ø are just different angles

[boreal trench]

maybe its this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Saturn#Propeller_moonlets "four tiny "moonlets" were found in Cassini images of the A Ring"

[sharp flame]

I guess we could try bleriot as a password

Out of all the answer formats, we haven't actually had just a 'word' yet

[pure loom]

“Geocache”

[sharp flame]

dammit

[sick stone]

This is just an example of how we can plot data into columns. From here we can shift them up or down respectively as we learn new information about each clue. For example in this sheet the "brown eyed girl" and "frombark" clues would be primary, wile the Copernicus signature, "VM.57" and the Saturn symbol would be secondary and the egg clue would be tertiary. With this system we can get a order of observations, shift them up and down if we need to shift a clue from primary to secondary for example. And if need be we can just flip the columns to keep the order correct while connecting it where it needs connecting. I have no experience with Excel however, but if someone more talented than me were to get in on this we could have multiple spreadsheets where we connect hints with hyperlinks to other spreadsheets covering single clues and their different connections.

Then we could maybe concatenate the hints in a format similar to this:

Again, I really suck at excel and I'm sleep deprived, so if this seems like the excel ramblings of a madman feel free to reject the idea. If I made myself understood however; this would need to be a collective effort, sending files back and forth to re-format according to every new path explored. This way any apparent dead end would still be an open-ended link in the chain, which might be useful later. Including the steps it took to get there. Then we can omit certain steps of the link if it messes up the primary/secondary/tertiary format in the relevant spreadsheets, while keeping them in others. It would also form - in essence - inverse pyramids of hints (that might overlap) that maintain a linear form of progress towards the answer. This might be too big a challenge when not started at the start of an easter egg

In example_2 the idea is that any clue connects to a cell directly below it

Although I did in hindsight mess that one up a little

You could probably do the same thing with a padlet for every hint, and a padlet connecting the padlets in the same way, but that would be a lot of padlets

[timid solstice]

How about something like this? (primary clues and sorting is up to debate)

[fallen jasper]

Wouldn't be the worst idea

[timid solstice]

im guessing the "25 Quaternary" clues are the ones posted in chat by Rob and Dusty

[solar glade]

this would be helpful, considering at this point i'm overwhelmed by the amount of clues and can't really help in the hunt

[sick stone]

Yes, but I think we still need links referring to how individual clues link up with the rest in order to keep interchangeability of clue-links on the primary page

As in how Saturn+(insert clue here) or how Saturn+(insert different clue here) might both seem relevant and connect to seemingly relevant things, but as we learn more and more one of them might prove irrelevant, which would show by it not being progressed and thus exchanged on the primary page for whatever now seems the most relevant connection

It will probably help us when/if the clues become relevant at a later date as well

[sharp flame]

I do think with the amount of images we have, we would be better off sorting by topic rather than image

[sharp flame]

I wanna also undo my Saturn symbol contribution

I do think it's intended to be Ceres

Just cause that symbol just fits better

Also cause Ceres is Minor Planet 1

The same way that Sputnik was the first satellite

And with hindsight Sputnik and Ceres fit very well into our Orbit bunch

If that symbol were Saturn, that would be it's secondary meaning

[sharp flame]

This is a really good idea though

[neon stream]

It looks like a good way to organise the clues, but Excel might not be the right tool

[sick stone]

You are absolutely right, just the tool I had at hand at the moment

[neon stream]

Yeah, this is pretty much what I meant by using Trello. I probably would have used the columns as primary/secondary/etc and then the labels as to what it leads to, because you may have clues like the "Symbol on belt Ø" that could point to all those things (Saturn, empty set and ovals)

[fallen jasper]

https://trello.com/b/XnWkTO8t/tier-one-d

Is this visable for you

[neon stream]

nope

[fallen jasper]

Request access and I'll let you in

[neon stream]

Now you know my name is Matt 😅

[fallen jasper]

Now you know my name is Kyne

[neon stream]

touche

I changed my name so I keep my anonymity 🕵🏻‍♂️

[fallen jasper]

You'v been added to the workspace

[neon stream]

Perfect, thanks

We do probably have the same name, that's just a nickname 😂

[neon stream]

||Matías||? 😛

[solar glade]

[neon stream]

Yeah, it's basically the same name

[solar glade]

🫵🏿

[neon stream]

I like how there are so many different variations of the same name 😂

I thought that "Matias" was the hispanic variation... until I saw that Kimi Räikkönen's full name was Kimi-Matias Räikkönen 😂

TIL "Matias" is also used in Sweden 🇸🇪

[timid solstice]

yeah clues with multiple connections could have more than one tag then good idea

[fallen jasper]

YOu've also been added to the board

[sharp flame]

Fine. Double clue 😅

[sharp flame]

Requested

[fallen jasper]

Added

[sharp flame]

That Stateira 831 asteroid is the same type as the Chicxulub was rumoured to be (disproven)

[pure loom]

Is it just me, or does the light-coloured line on her ear, that kind of runs the length of it, look like a wine glass?

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/inna-drinking-drunk-trendizisst-drinking-wine-gif-14720190

[sick stone]

I'm thinking about planet X again

[pure loom]

Egg

[sharp flame]

Oh shoot, yeah that makes sense

Nonary is base 9

Like binary is base 2

[pure loom]

Ballarat, where Eureka/Mars stadium is - is on the Australian “Great Grape Road Tour” and is renowned for cool-climate wines.

The wineglass path might not be too crazy

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

365, and 7 planets

[pure loom]

Also we did have another wine clue - Aventure

Which was very direct

Grapes are oviform too

Grape isn’t the password

I’ll explore this path a bit more

https://tenor.com/view/conan-wine-tasting-awesome-gif-22833092

[timid solstice]

BTW @pure loom Did you see the eyes react post on sega saturn? was that already seen before?

[pure loom]

No, I hadn’t actually. Interesting.

[timid solstice]

yeah this thread

I think you were right with the CD data bits on the leg

[pure loom]

Interesting that he reacted to “the Sega Saturn may yet live” but not my original post on it - maybe it’s a future path?

[timid solstice]

ah yeah it could mean that or the reactions were getting less obvious

[neon stream]

Dionysus was mentioned a while ago 🤔

Here. I guess this could be another connection with wine 🤔

[sick stone]

In this context it is probably more like 9th, as the previous ones are primary, secondary... etc

[sharp flame]

Yep but nonary is an actual word and it does mean in the binary sense

[sick stone]

It doesn't necessarily mean it in the binary sense is my point, as the word doesn't necessarily belong to the base 9 context, but when used in conjunction with secondary in stead of binary rather points to a way of counting in base 10.

[sharp flame]

Agreed. Planet X seems the more likely

We gotta move away from the answer so Rob starts helping us again 😂

[zenith crown]

do u guys need some motivation to solve the puzzle?

[sharp flame]

...

a little

[zenith crown]

ight

ive got a plan

you guys solve it

that way, we can move on

simple

you're welcome

[sharp flame]

😭👍

[zenith crown]

motivation so good, made you cry

[slender lodge]

everytime i try to understand this tier my mind gives up lol

the padlet is filled to the brim

[sharp flame]

I agree

[sick stone]

We need more👀

[slender lodge]

gonna try again tho

gotta remove this fomo feeling

[sharp flame]

Just look at the red boxes

[slender lodge]

are they the chekpoints

[sharp flame]

They are confirmed interpretations

[slender lodge]

ahhhh

[sharp flame]

so no theories

[slender lodge]

thats guud stuff

ima try this again

[sharp flame]

Good luck!

if you need any clue clarified just ask

I have another theory to push but I'll give it an hour

[slender lodge]

i feel like ill need a lot of clarity haha

because like idk how 404 is related to the inventor of WWW

like i see it but hows that the confirmed interpretation

[sharp flame]

Since TBL is confirmed

[slender lodge]

whats tbl

[sharp flame]

TBL made 404

[slender lodge]

oh tim

oh he did

i see

[sharp flame]

Tim Berners-Lee haha

[slender lodge]

bros making acryonyms like crazy

[sharp flame]

His wife is a clue's name (LEITH)

[slender lodge]

OHH

dayum

alright ill read a bit more before asking dumb questions haha

[sharp flame]

Leith also refers to two other people so yeah

[slender lodge]

[sharp flame]

Chuck Leith, unconfirmed, worked at a Lab which was Last Tiers clue

did work on Atmospheres

[slender lodge]

i seee

ill keep that in mind

thats an unconfirmed clue tho riht

[sharp flame]

word 3

of the message

🗿

second leith is Virginia Leith, actress, almost definitely confirmed

connected to the clue which says "BIV"

BIV is a philosophy concept (Brain in a Vat)

one of the movies on the BIV wiki page has her face on it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonino_de_Bivona-Bernardi

to everyone else I found a new BIV connection

Biv here, he founded a scientific journal, "L'Iride" ("The Iris")

[sharp flame]

^

just wanted to tag Swa haha

[slender lodge]

:3

[sharp flame]

^

[slender lodge]

ok im up to date now

(i still feel like i know nothing lol

so whats the general direction that everyones going now

[fallen jasper]

Home

[slender lodge]

LMFAO

[sick stone]

I'd say we're pretty stationary atm. Might need to go back to previous clues and investigate more

[sharp flame]

we have Saturn

we have Ø

we have orbits

we have ovals

[sick stone]

we have X in an Egg

we have "nonary"

[sharp flame]

we doo have the X

[slender lodge]

oh yeah

[sharp flame]

and a main 1st image

clue

was

Xth

[sick stone]

yup

[sharp flame]

which we haven't pinned down yet

[slender lodge]

rob said u guys are super close

so its probably closely related to all ur findings

[sharp flame]

10th Apollo (god of the sun btw) crewed mission was to the Descartes Highlands

[sharp flame]

I-

imagine if it wasn't 😭

[slender lodge]

LMFAO

nah it probs is

[sharp flame]

OBVIOUSLY

it's the how which I'm racking my brains for

[slender lodge]

it better

[sharp flame]

Rob is radio silent atm

so either we're close enough to not need any nudging

or he's given up on us

🥹

[slender lodge]

im thinking the latter

[sharp flame]

I mean

hunger is the best sauce

just the sight of that new image will be euphoric for me

[slender lodge]

i feel like new images may cause diminishing returns lmfoa

if eveyrthing is on the table

all u need to do is to cook it

or eat it

and since u are already hungry

[sharp flame]

in this metaphor

[slender lodge]

idk where im goign with this

[sharp flame]

I cannot cook

[slender lodge]

LMFAO

[sharp flame]

Rob is the chef

and I am a skeleton at this point

[slender lodge]

in this metaphor, the food was meat and im a vegetarian

[sharp flame]

😭

[slender lodge]

but now im transitiioning

[sharp flame]

I'll have your share then

damnit

[slender lodge]

no

meat isnt that good imo

i think vegetarian food is more creative

but thats beside the point lol

[sharp flame]

for the sake of EEs I suggest we stop talking a bit hahaha

[slender lodge]

sorry

[sharp flame]

s'okay, but if someone misses two hours they'd have to pick through a lot of text to find an actual connection 😭

[slender lodge]

yeah :-; yessir

[sharp flame]

also wanna put in another Gold/Sun connect

we had the Golden ratio appear in our Mic Lines

[slender lodge]

Euclid's book 2 - "Golden Ratio"

[sharp flame]

holy crap

the Golden Ratio does cover lots of our people

[slender lodge]

what other people did u cover

[sharp flame]

(we had pythagoras, kinda stemmed from Euclid)

but Euclid, Leonaro of Pisa (aka Fibonacci), and Kepler

which does connect the two Maths ends of our clues

Euclid and Kepler, that is

[pure loom]

It covers about 1.618 more people on average than it did previously.

[pure loom]

This is solid

[sharp flame]

Golden (sun), Ø, Euclid, Kepler

if it were the answer I wouldn't be super surprised

however it leaves out orbits/ovals

Saturn I think might actually be pointing at the big Ø aspect

[pure loom]

Inb4 NamaTama holding a Chardonnay

[fallen jasper]

I want Nama Tama holding the answer

[sharp flame]

okay I'm not sold on the wine one just yet but...

[fallen jasper]

Have we tried 42

[sharp flame]

the golden ratio.. of an egg?

if eggs have a golden ratio that changes things

[pure loom]

Fair enough. But it might be worth prodding around in

[sharp flame]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36052445/#:~:text=Previous studies have established that,0.618 in its reciprocal form).

no way

[fallen jasper]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36052445/#:~:text=Previous studies have established that,0.618 in its reciprocal form).

[sharp flame]

LMFAO

[fallen jasper]

Jinx

[sharp flame]

yeah

[fallen jasper]

I like how we both went for the egg ratio LMAO

[sharp flame]

damn, I hope Rob was expecting us to find this

cause that's a crazy connection on his part

[fallen jasper]

Previous studies have established that, for chicken eggs, mean k corresponds to the golden ratio (Φ = 1.618, or 0.618 in its reciprocal form)

[sharp flame]

🙏 insane how he can make it all fit together like this

[fallen jasper]

Me thinks RHB knows about the article already

Oh NVM I get it I'm a bit slow

[pure loom]

Ha! No, but I think this is a super solid path

[sharp flame]

'specially since we had the equation for an egg

[pure loom]

And I can totally imagine Rob doing a golden ratio related Tier

The nice middle ground between science and art 👌

[fallen jasper]

Thus, the study of the mathematical secrets of the eggshell

That is a sentence that hits harder than it has any right to

[slender lodge]

i didnt take any math courses this term so this tier is a substitude for it

[sharp flame]

wait, surely, the Golden clues are not just clues involving Gold, and Gold in the name

cause that would be insane if they all connect to this EE

Eureka being the California Golddigging motto

LBNL transmuting Lead into Gold

all the Sun clues leading into Gold

[neon stream]

79

[sharp flame]

and now Golden Ratio

[neon stream]

79 too

[pure loom]

Ballarat was a goldfield too

[sharp flame]

wait how so

[sharp flame]

goldfield 🤣

[fallen jasper]

79, atomic weight of gold

[neon stream]

Aurum

Yeah, the atomic number

[sharp flame]

atomic number 79

holy shit

I think it actually is intended, all this 😭

[zenith crown]

fallout 79

wait no its 76

[sharp flame]

WHAT THE F-

[pure loom]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfield

[sharp flame]

I'm not even kidding I think this is it

[slender lodge]

wait whats the relation

[pure loom]

[sharp flame]

1064, 79, two passwords

[neon stream]

☝🏻

[sharp flame]

79, no. of Gold, 1064, melting point of Gold

[fallen jasper]

Password isn't 1064

[slender lodge]

ahhh

i swear 1064 was mentioned very long time ago too

like very, very long time ago

[neon stream]

@sharp flame stop solving Tier 800 and come back to help us with this one 😂

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/were-on-the-verge-of-something-were-close-we-almost-got-this-almost-there-history-gif-16120592

[fallen jasper]

1064 Aethusa

[sharp flame]

it was

[slender lodge]

ohhhh

[fallen jasper]

Yeah I

[slender lodge]

yeah lmfaooo

[fallen jasper]

Realized that LMAO

As I typed that it wasn't

[sharp flame]

gold and gold

no way

[strong hare]

You got it!??

[fallen jasper]

Rob please

[slender lodge]

uhm

[fallen jasper]

You're gonna give me a seizure

[slender lodge]

wait lxxix whats that in english

i mean like

numeber

[fallen jasper]

79

[slender lodge]

oh god

oh god

lmfao

what are the others

[fallen jasper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruption_of_Mount_Vesuvius_in_79_AD

[slender lodge]

idk how to reach that page

[slender lodge]

i forgot how to reach that page someone link

[sharp flame]

okay this isn't related.. yet

[slender lodge]

maybe it is

[sharp flame]

pinned 📌

https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2

[slender lodge]

tyy

[sharp flame]

about to head off, been delaying it for a few minutes

[slender lodge]

;-;

ill cya later

[sharp flame]

I think I've made a breakthrough here though so I'm gonna bask in that for a bit

[slender lodge]

you got this fishy

[neon stream]

You have made a breakthrough 💪🏻

[slender lodge]

Mendelevium relating to something might be cool too

[fallen jasper]

You make Mendeleevum by shooting a precursor element at a thin band of metal, usually gold

[sharp flame]

They're both... Elements

[slender lodge]

Au - 79 - 1064c
Md - 101 - 826.8c

[fallen jasper]

The recoil momentum of the produced mendelevium-256 atoms is used to bring them physically far away from the einsteinium target from which they are produced, bringing them onto a thin foil of metal (usually beryllium, aluminium, platinum, or gold) just behind the target in a vacuum.

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gold

I'm literally gonna go through this entire page if that's what it takes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_compact_disc

David Bowie ^^

[pure loom]

Golden egg?

[slender lodge]

oh

[pure loom]

🥚 has been a pretty solid path on its own. Gold seems like another now.

[slender lodge]

[pure loom]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Egg_(disambiguation)

A new whole neighbourhood of rabbit holes

[slender lodge]

time to dig them and fall into them

nvm doesnt lead anywhere

[fallen jasper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Medal

[slender lodge]

YEP LOLLLL

[pure loom]

The last time solid gold medals were given at the Olympic Games was Stockholm 1912

[fallen jasper]

Hmm

[slender lodge]

what does this relate to

nvm

im dum asf

[fallen jasper]

It's a gold medal

[slender lodge]

ahh yeye

real gold?

[fallen jasper]

Idk

[slender lodge]

hahah

ill bite it

also what does this clue to

or is that literally just rob's way of expressing his dissapointment

[pure loom]

The golden gun?

Not that it is one, but it is a Bond movie

[slender lodge]

ohh

the man with a golden gun hmm

[sharp flame]

GOLDENEYE

surely

[pure loom]

Probably showing how much time he has on his hands because we’re so slow

[pure loom]

Good idea 👍

[slender lodge]

[sharp flame]

🧠🧠🧠

Actually there's a lot of Bond stuff with 'golden' in it

[slender lodge]

there was a golden gun in golden eye

[fallen jasper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfinger_(film)

[sharp flame]

I'm sorry WHO does Honor Blackman play?😭😭😭😭

[fallen jasper]

Hmm

[sick stone]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-gob-franklin-bluth-look-gif-17174721

[sharp flame]

tried to speak the word and got instabanned 😂

[slender lodge]

the golden gun in the goldeneye game is only available in the mission called 'egyptian'
there were some egyptian references earlier so idk

[sharp flame]

anyway, Goldfinger, Goldeneye and Golden gun

goldeneye, is a satellite weapon

[slender lodge]

yeah lmfao

ah yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldeneye_(duck)

[fallen jasper]

Goldeneye is about the life of the author

[sharp flame]

If anything I think this stuff is Late-game content iykwim

[fallen jasper]

Reading the descriptions of the James Bond movies are uh

Hmm

[sharp flame]

Rob:

[fallen jasper]

The 8 copies of goldeneye Rob has on his shelf

[sharp flame]

😭

[slender lodge]

i was also looking at golden eye

like gold colored eye

egg eyes

[sharp flame]

this helps us at the end of Level 2, but to be fair we aren't making much progress on our current thing 😭

[slender lodge]

this stuff fucks with my brain lol

[fallen jasper]

Lmao

[sharp flame]

Link

[slender lodge]

Van Morrison was mentioned but where did we with that

[sharp flame]

First band he made

VM.57

1957

1957, at the age of twelve, Morrison formed his first band, a skiffle group, "The Sputniks", named after the satellite, Sputnik 1, that had been launched in October of that year by the Soviets.

[slender lodge]

ohhh

i see i see

[pure loom]

Plus each of the character images are named after a Van Morrison song

[neon stream]

Btw, I'm sure this has nothing to do with the hunt, but I found funny that there a connection with the "Trillizas de Oro" (Golden Triplets) on this tier... they are also known as "Las Tres Marías", which is another name for Orion's belt (The Three Kings) in Spanish 😂

[sharp flame]

"Sputnik 1 was launched during the International Geophysical Year"

[sharp flame]

Sputnik 1 was the first satellite sent out ever

[slender lodge]

Pier Hein's Superegg was made of Brass

we're crossing a lot of different elements

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_1

Sputnik's sister

Sent towards the moon

Missed

Now in heliocentric orbit forever

First ever object to reach escape velocity, actually

And wasn't Luna 3 a clue last time??

[slender lodge]

yeah smth like that

[timid solstice]

so many messages did we get the answer

[sharp flame]

sorry.. 😅

[timid solstice]

damn ok. worth reading back? or ?

golden clues hmm

[sharp flame]

To the gold at least

I feel a bit proud of that haha

[slender lodge]

good connection discovery

[timid solstice]

5f137s2 is gold too?

[slender lodge]

project discovery's EE discovery

[slender lodge]

thats Mendelevium

[timid solstice]

I know but does it convert to another meaning or connection of gold

[neon stream]

not yet

[sharp flame]

It's an element, so there's gotta be some connection

[timid solstice]

the roman coin could be a golden clue..

[pure loom]

Didn’t someone post before that Mendelevium was made using gold?

[sharp flame]

Yeah

Can be

[slender lodge]

someone explain why this is 'ANNO (upside down)'

i read JNN(something)

[sharp flame]

Me too

ONNY in my case

[neon stream]

That was my interpretation, but I might be wrong

[sharp flame]

It's super valid, given the 365 we also had

[fallen jasper]

Mendelevium was first discovered when they shot alpha particles at Einsteinium in 1955

[neon stream]

We'll know for sure once we get the answer 😂

I hope...

[sharp flame]

Idk, we've left plenty of clues in the dust 😂

There are a LOT of people named Sonny

Including Skrillex 💀

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_(2002_film)

look at production companies

and perhaps the distributor

I'm decently confident in this one

🪐

[slender lodge]

gold circle films hmm

samuel goldwyn

saturn films

[sharp flame]

Saturn 🪐 does resemble the other symbol

Rob reacted to a Rockhound message saying that symbol looks like Saturn actually

(rising over Titan)

[slender lodge]

ohh

wasnt there something about saturn's moon having its shadow casting on saturn

looking at frombork as no one really did anything with that in the padlet

nvm i see the connections

[sharp flame]

It was Copernicus I think

[slender lodge]

yepp

man where do we go from here loll

[sharp flame]

🤷

[pure loom]

True that. Maybe we should focus on that combo - egg-shaped (Cartesian ovals), golden ratio, Titan/Saturn

[slender lodge]

Can you link that image @pure loom

[slender lodge]

Ohhh

How tf did u decipher that that's. Crazy

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-gif-9922745

[sharp flame]

we.. had a few tries

but maybe that symbol was Saturn all along

also

I FOUND IT

[slender lodge]

Found what

[slender lodge]

I can't find the Saturn rising wiki lol

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_angle

[fallen jasper]

i stg

[slender lodge]

Holly shit

[fallen jasper]

Okay so, gold and angles?

[sharp flame]

phew I have big exhale now

[slender lodge]

Golden angels

[sharp flame]

nono I think it's a meta thing which connects the answers

although we might be able to get our next answer by looking at gold

not sure if that's a viable strategy though

[slender lodge]

137° angle
Gold(Au) - 1064°C melting point

I still don't know how all this fits as a whole

137° melting point lol

[pure loom]

Amazing.

[sharp flame]

yeah phew

you know what would be crazy

if this wasn't intended

lmfao

[slender lodge]

Then.

[sharp flame]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-jeffrey-lebowski-the-dude-stir-gif-4685331
Rob watching us find all these connections to Gold which he never intended:

[tranquil ivy]

Wait did fish get the password?

[slender lodge]

Then I'm gonna find the melting point of rabbit holes

[sharp flame]

no 😭

just connected 5f137s2 to gold

(137 is the golden angle)

[slender lodge]

1064, 79 and 137 all connect to gold now