easter-eggs

[proud minnow]

2:18

[hidden nacelle]

[sharp flame]

Holtow..?

[sharp flame]

I think it could be...

Well in terms of headgear

Was it in the alpha?

Yeah

Idk but it doesn't seem like the other two sponsors

in the shop right

golden

so not on the sponsor tiers

anyway maybe I'm getting my hopes up

I think I here's a document where all the descriptions were written down

no idea how to find that

Also "Into_The_Mystic"

Omw home right now so can't do any analysis 😭

[hidden nacelle]

i can only see this, its in the bottom left corner

[sharp flame]

Need to get on my computer cause that just looks like black

Photopea.com

Layer -> Adjustment Later -> Brightness -> turn the slider up

if anyone wants to try

It's a jigsaw again😭

Like the Copernicus signature

But in the Finals Saira font

so it's a phrase

not a recognizable image

that's all I can tell

3 words?

There are triple verticals splitting them I think

[sharp flame]

Into the Mystic

Van Morrison song

[solar glade]

photoshop:LayerName="Hi there amazing EE-hunters.!" photoshop:LayerText="Hope you are having fun and are enjoying the weekend... from embark with love.!"/>

bit of contrast

[sharp flame]

not sure if Van Morrison is supposed to feature more than that

cause he now appears twice

by the way I'm pretty sure this was morse

can't be just me right

-.-.

c

[sharp flame]

ooooh

[solar glade]

dumping everything i see before i can't work on this anymore

[sharp flame]

Finding clues is half the battle

[solar glade]

on the suppressor

[sharp flame]

things would probably go a lot smoother for us if we had all the clues instead of some

also loads of these clues are cut in half haha

[solar glade]

[sharp flame]

CCCLXV

haha

[sharp flame]

CCCLXV = 365

days in a year?

10th, date?

[sharp flame]

what's this

[solar glade]

i think there are some characters on the left side of the eye

context for mask clues

see how the markings are darker than the surface of the mask

on top of the logo

[sharp flame]

That looks like half an X

[solar glade]

these pixels seem intentional

don't see any other letters having them

the 'N' or 'Z' shape again

what i mean by it

these textures don't appear anywhere else on the suit

[sharp flame]

there's kinda a grid thing in the background

okay I'm starting work on the jigsaw

[solar glade]

these specular dots could be something

[solar glade]

these remind me of the overlapping congruent circles

[sharp flame]

there must be something like this in geometry

this is the third one

just the third

part

it looked the easiest

I don't think we're supposed to

it's unicode though

yep

• • O

Rob's really training me to be the fastest Photoshop artist there is 😭

all of these settings are becoming second nature at this point hahaha

[solar glade]

i will not mention the last ARG i worked on because i don't wanna give Rob ideas

[sharp flame]

no.dos

o

little o

_oO

no it orients super well

also the oO fits with the other O=0=o=0 clue

right

?

I think

they must be connected

also 004f and 006f are close

009f just in case

I already know the U+ so this should be quicker

[solar glade]

great stuff

[sharp flame]

I think this is super solvable

we just need to piece these new clues in right

okay I was stuck

so I cheated

unicode character for '.' is U+002E

which fits my pieces

I just can't fit them together

.oO

hm

the . is wrong I think

I'm stuck okay

give me a second 😭

nevermind I'm a genius

U+2400

it means.. nothing

•  \\ o \\ O   -
  

it's.. growing?

this could be something like Halley's comet approaching earth, getting bigger and bigger

// o // O

[sharp flame]

I think I might be busy for the next day or two, but I'll try and sort out the other clues when I get back

[sharp flame]

Xth again? or something else

I do not have it in me to try and decipher that lol

I think the clue here is that this X is split in half

triangles here

[tulip matrix]

Oh snap I thought I was actually going to play videogames today

So happy to be mistaken

[sharp flame]

well there's about 50% to this image that we haven't yet found

feel free to chip in

[tulip matrix]

Could be moons between Saturn's rings

[sharp flame]

well the first one is empty (or not visible)

since it's so small

[shell shoal]

I like fish

[sharp flame]

as.... food?

[pure loom]

Another interference pattern in the middle there.

[shell shoal]

Both

[sharp flame]

I like your profile pic

[shell shoal]

Thanks yours to

[tulip matrix]

Cross-hatching maybe. Similar too the portraits of the Scientists we've been researching

[sharp flame]

edge of the same symbol?

[pure loom]

He looks like he recently joined this group

Note Rob left out the word “to”

[tulip matrix]

I feel another emoji idea coming on
Also, I think my computer forgot how to spell every word

[sharp flame]

ITU8 or ITUB?

There's only one result on the web for ITUB

[sharp flame]

Thunderbolt - ACDC?

orr symbol of Zeus/Jupiter

[tulip matrix]

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-astrophysicists-moons-saturn-music.html

[pure loom]

This is interesting. The interference pattern thing - seen in pretty much every image for this tier - could hint to a mixing of two things like science and music.

Titan - your G string

[tulip matrix]

Yeah I was thinking "Into The Mystic" could be a double meaning.
Cassini Orbiter being plunged into the mysterious unknown of Saturn's atmosphere
Also That song is from the Album "Moondance"
Which may be a reference to Orbital Resonance or moons "dancing" around Saturn.
In that article there's even a quote
"Saturn's dancing moons now have a soundtrack," says Russo.

The letters on the characters hand are conveniently on the part of the fingers where you would keep rings

If you did place rings on each finger the letters would be inside the rings / occluded by them

maybe each letter is a moon within Saturn's rings or embedded in them

I can't for the life of me make out those letters tho

[boreal trench]

geometric

[thorny birch]

Could the letters on the characters knuckles be itus?

itus (Latin)
Origin & history
From Proto-Italic *itus‎, from Proto-Indo-European *h₁i-tus‎, from *h₁ey- + *-tus. Related to eō ("go, proceed").
Noun
itus (genitive itūs) (masc.)
a going, departure
a gait
the right of way, right to travel

A gait could have something to do with the dancing part of the theory. Otherwise the word describes motion. Seems to fit. Not really helpful other than adding to the idea of motion though.

[boreal trench]

I think I see 5?M310N69N4 not really sure what im doing with image manipulation tho

[solar glade]

diff look at it just in case

#easter-eggs message

[pure loom]

M31 is the Andromeda Galaxy (M stands for Messier who mapped a bunch of celestial objects) - although that could just be a coincidence.

[boreal trench]

I was thinking maybe the 0N part of it my just be the word on, which would fit with M31, so like M31 on 69N4. or something

[pure loom]

A lot of Messier objects have N numbers too

NGC numbers rather

M31 is NGC224

[boreal trench]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_69 is in the andromeda galaxy

[pure loom]

(NGC stands for New General Catalogue)

[timid solstice]

lines and dots?

[pure loom]

Andromeda constellation. Both M31 and NGC69 are in the constellation of Andromeda

A lot of NGC objects are nebula, or planetary nebula as they’re known because earlier observers likened them to planets

Like the Ring Nebula: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Nebula

[timid solstice]

geometria - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Géométrie La Géométrie?

[boreal trench]

yeah that fits better

[pure loom]

What clue was that connected to? (And how?)

[timid solstice]

Its on the mask

[pure loom]

Thanks! I’m only on my phone at the moment.

[timid solstice]

Theres a bug/insect above the code on the back, its some kind of bee or butterfly

[sharp flame]

geometria

which would make it Italian

[timid solstice]

ah good point it could be an Italian mathematician

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_mathematicians 💀

[sharp flame]

Imma skip all that

[timid solstice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_Fano

[sharp flame]

I think it's Leonardo of Pisa

Aka Fibonacci

[timid solstice]

"Fano went on to describe finite projective spaces of arbitrary dimension and prime orders"

[sharp flame]

under no basis except the mic shape and the fact that he's Pisa based 😎

[timid solstice]

could be, he had a work called Practica Geometriae (1220)

[timid solstice]

5 M310N63N4

"5 M310N63N4" is Leet speek for "S MELONGENA" aka Eggplant 🍆 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant

[boreal trench]

wtf good find you are on a role 👍

[timid solstice]

I will be afk to Lapland (UK) soon so trying my best to crack some eggs 🙂

[solar glade]

niiice, didn’t see the butterfly originally

[timid solstice]

its something like that, cant see for sure

[boreal trench]

I think the end of the silencer might be CXXXVI CVIII

so 136 108

[timid solstice]

like mixed = 110D631 ? no 8 and 6

[boreal trench]

it might be slightly different roman numerals but this looked closest to me

didnt the 110D631 end up being found? as 110.631?

or are we not sure on that

[timid solstice]

it could be paris meridian 110.631 but not sure how it ties in. its for working out the size of the earth and important for astronomy so that could be it

[timid solstice]

the shape could be the Eggplant flower not a butterfly actually

[timid solstice]

That is a good fit

[pure loom]

It reminds me of the moth from Silence of the Lambs

[timid solstice]

totally

but has a top part so I think its petals

[timid solstice]

so from roman numerals we have 365 136 108

goodnight all, good luck with the hunt!

[pure loom]

Gn

[latent peak]

Geometria is also an asteroid in the main asteroid belt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/376_Geometria

and a Movie by Guilmero del toro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometria_(film)

[latent peak]

I read it as Itus as well

[boreal trench]

this seems to have a lot of links, Elementa geometria https://www.loc.gov/item/73213223/, which is the 13 books of Euclid's Elements the tenth book is called Book X https://www.claymath.org/library/historical/euclid/index.html

[latent peak]

So.. The 10th book is Classification of incommensurables

"The term 'incommensurable' means 'to have no common measure'. The idea has its origins in Ancient Greek mathematics, where it meant no common measure between magnitudes"

[latent peak]

I don't really understand this level of math/geometry. But can it be connected to the O0o0 ?

[sharp flame]

Weird coincidence

"coincidence"

Cause yknow the first finger is obscured

_ITUS, so it could be Titus

[latent peak]

Good point ☝️

[sharp flame]

And it's the only TRex connection I've seen

[latent peak]

The trex have been bugging me.. Its odd clue compared to the rest. Besides the eggplant

Bode-Titus Law:
The Bode-Titus law is an empirical rule giving the approximate distances of planets from the Sun.

http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/bode_titus_relation.html

Mostly written as Titius though

[proud minnow]

"There are no coincidences in this world"

[sharp flame]

oooooh

Okay so Titus the TRex

[proud minnow]

Everything is connected, but it's not THAT obvious... ._.

[sharp flame]

I- okay

let me have a think

it's another Titus?

Named after Titus Andronicus

a reference to Titan maybe?

[proud minnow]

Great puzzles need to be deep and complex to be fun and challenging, for this little EE-hunt there are always at least 4-5 connections between different clues on each level and often also multiple connections between both tiers and levels. That way the web becomes an intricate aventure, a beautiful painting and a puzzle that is much more satisfying to solve... after all don't we all want to honor Archimedes.?1

[sharp flame]

I very much appreciate the effort, and this is a great puzzle! I hope we can come to a point where we are beginning to understand the bigger picture 🙏

also, Archimedes 👀

[pure loom]

A “d” missing from adventure, and a 1 instead on an exclamation mark.

He left “to” out of his last rant um, helpful comments.

And the “h” missing from character in the title of the second image.

[pure loom]

A couple of thoughts - I wonder if the missing characters refer, indirectly, to something being removed. In addition to that, the ‘Saturn aurora’ light on the MAC-10 made me wonder if it has something to do with the polarisation of light (aurora = polar; polarisation also removes a wave direction of light). Light elements play a significant part in all three images, so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne-Louis_Malus

[pure loom]

^ discoverer of polarisation

[sharp flame]

who's quote is this?

[vital cove]

Rob Embark

[tulip matrix]

Master Oogway

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-oogway-accidents-there-are-no-accidents-destiny-gif-16270886

I sure do love Fig Newtons

[latent peak]

I think ive found it :
Haumea (minor-planet designation 136108 Haumea)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea

It's also an egg-shaped planet.

[timid solstice]

Discovered by Brown

There’s also the “10th” planet by Brown https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/solar_system_level2/eris.html

[latent peak]

oooh

On a funny note he also killed pluto lol

[timid solstice]

Eesh

[pure loom]

At this rate the answer is going to be “the universe”

The more we get clues that point to objects in the solar system, the more I think the answer is unrelated to it.

Byzantine Empire when??

[tulip matrix]

Feels like we're just dancing around the solution

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-dancing-david-brent-the-office-gif-8193002

[cold forum]

https://tenor.com/view/farcry6-gif-23383353

[zenith crown]

i absolutely love Giancarlo Esposito

[cold forum]

who doesn't

[latent peak]

Could also be Vth ?🤔

[sharp flame]

Could be, but the deliberate highlighting seems to extend to the bottom half too

[latent peak]

Good point

[timid solstice]

Another route for Xth, Pope Leo X

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_X

From the Copernicus blog http://scihi.org/nicolaus-copernicus-heliocentric/ : “De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium

Around 1512 Pope Leo X presented the possible calendar reform for discussion. Since the mean length of a year in the Julian calendar did not correspond exactly to that of a solar year, the date of the winter solstice had shifted in the course of the centuries by ten days. The Frauenburg canon Nicolaus Copernicus said that astronomical theory had to be corrected before the question of calendar reform could be addressed.”

[latent peak]

Here's a compilation of our current finds

[pure loom]

I watched Guillermo del Toro’s Geometria - the lighting Rob uses in this image is very similar to the movie.

[latent peak]

True !

[latent peak]

So. The film is about a boy who fails geometry in school, summons a demon while at the same time protecting himself by drawing a pentagram, but fails the protection because he drew a hexagon.

Saturn has a hexagon at it's north pole.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn's_hexagon

Discovered by the voyager and revisited by cassini-huygens.

One theory is that it forms where there's "steep latitudinal gradient in the speed of the atmospheric winds in Saturn's atmosphere."

Titan also have a somewhat similar phenomena called the "Titanian polar vortex "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Titan#Circulation

It also have similar colors as the two latest wallpapers

https://tenor.com/view/alice-rabbithole-falling-tumbling-bye-gif-5308157

[boreal trench]

David Bowie lightning bolt

[tawdry jungle]

absolute legend

one of my fav artists of all time

[boreal trench]

also ziggy stardust is from mars

[timid solstice]

very nice, I missed the 10th in this one

[timid solstice]

The Saturn V rocket had its first flight in 1967.

Apollo 16 mission was the Fifth crewed lunar landing, at Descartes Highlands.

NASA sls uses similar markers as Secchi disk

[latent peak]

Nice catch! It even has the blue shadow

[timid solstice]

hmm I mentioned this exact image before on another clue, the namatama zigzag, I wonder if its related

[sharp flame]

I'm really struggling to sift through all of these astronomy pages haha

there's so much content

ayo

wait

what's that doing there ^

also, this might be a stretch but the triple lines here look like the triple lines dividing the words in the jigsaw |||

[solar glade]

nice catch

[sharp flame]

well I'm not sure if it means anything yet

[solar glade]

still

[sharp flame]

hmm, it certainly got rob's attention though

gonna look into it

[proud minnow]

Did you miss that at first..?

[sharp flame]

well I just assumed that Euclidian geometry was the clue, which we found earlier, with all the Euclid stuff

but maybe I missed another aspect to the Geometry stuff....?

I also didn't think that that *specific edition of the book was what we could've looked at

so yeah, I missed it haha

[timid solstice]

Full book here incase you missed the link; #easter-eggs message

[pure loom]

Good spotting. Right under our noses 👃

The nose emoji is the weirdest emoji.

[sharp flame]

it really is

[sharp flame]

I wonder if those words each symbolise a book

[pure loom]

I thought that was the cover of the elements book

Or paper

[sharp flame]

Well yeah

but there are 13

[pure loom]

Oh, another book?

[sharp flame]

no no

but it contains the content of all 13 books

I just thought each word could represent one of those

[pure loom]

Euclid clearly had too much time on his hands

[sharp flame]

Weird how Musica is one of the words on the front page

wonder what that refers to

[timid solstice]

hes the Shakespeare of his time

[sharp flame]

also our Ceres symbol thingy appears right on that cover too

Also, if anyone can notice, it appears below "Arithmetica"

between the B and F

[timid solstice]

btw there is a Latin version of Renes book

https://www.maa.org/book/export/html/117542

[latent peak]

This rectangle from figure 197 in book 10 kinda lines up. https://www.claymath.org/library/historical/euclid/book10.html

Thats all i got : P

[tulip matrix]

Pretty wild how that edition of the book is dedicated to the wrong person
sheesh

[timid solstice]

lets buy it and edit it

https://www.forumauctions.co.uk/65599/Euclid.-The-Elements-of-Geometrie-translated-by-Sir-Henry-Billingsley-preface-by-John-Dee-first-edition-in-English-of-the-first-complete-translation-by-John-Daye-1570?auction_no=1057&view=lot_detail

[tulip matrix]

I wonder why the 1557 Edition has a chicken in it

Ok, now I sleep

[timid solstice]

sorry I got that wrong, heres some of the english versions 1570 with that image https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbc0001.2010english20856/?st=grid&c=200 and https://library.si.edu/digital-library/book/elementsgeometr00eucl

[slender lodge]

dude that logo

[fallen jasper]

Does anything need editing on the Padlet?

[pure loom]

I haven’t added much for a while. Sorry - been a bit slack on that.

[timid solstice]

with the extra powers you granted all is good 🙂

[fallen jasper]

[sharp flame]

I think, following this trend, Euclid's Elements are the key here

[sharp flame]

Not quite sure what the eggplant clue is connecting to

except for eggplant

Ohhhh

Solanum Melongena

Solanum

"of the sun"

[fallen jasper]

the progression

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright-line_brown-eye

The butterfly might be a moth

[pure loom]

Which is ironic considering they’re part of the Nightshade family

[sharp flame]

I'm wondering if the sun might be more connected than we thought

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-baby-sun-gif-19474019

[pure loom]

The problem is, we could find a way to connect the sun to almost anything.

[sharp flame]

But directly I assume

by name

or coincidence, not connected through scientists

[pure loom]

“Sometimes called a Titan”

Helios is not the password

[sharp flame]

Hyperion

I recognize that name

it's one of his own

[pure loom]

Maybe the Titan reference is just pointing to the answer being closely related to one of the Titans

[sharp flame]

but also one of Titan's brother moons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(moon)

[pure loom]

I wonder if it might be related to Hyperion’s sister, Theia, who was the Greek goddess of sight and vision?

(She’s also a Titan)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia

We need a way to tie Euclid into it

[pure loom]

I might have made some progress...

[solar glade]

the suspense...

[pure loom]

haha!

lemme just put it all together. Hold please caller.

[sharp flame]

ooh... now I'm interested

[pure loom]

Johan Ludvig Heiberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Ludvig_Heiberg_(historian)) published one of the early manuscripts of Euclid's Elements. He also inspected the vellum manuscript in the library of The Church of the Holy Sepulchre at Istanbul in 1906, and realized that it contained mathematical works by Archimedes that were unknown to scholars at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Palimpsest This is a page from the Archimedes Palimpsest.

Remember Rob's comment about Archimedes

[mortal ivy]

I have missed so much, better to close my eyes abd back away 🫣

Just wanna wish you all good luck ❤️

[pure loom]

A team of imaging scientists including Dr. Roger L. Easton, Jr. from the Rochester Institute of Technology, Dr. William A. Christens-Barry from Equipoise Imaging, and Dr. Keith Knox (then with Boeing LTS, now retired from the USAF Research Laboratory) used computer processing of digital images from various spectral bands, including ultraviolet, visible, and infrared wavelengths to reveal most of the underlying text, including of Archimedes. After imaging and digitally processing the entire palimpsest in three spectral bands prior to 2006, in 2007 they reimaged the entire palimpsest in 12 spectral bands, plus raking light: UV: 365 nanometers; Visible Light: 445, 470, 505, 530, 570, 617, and 625 nm; Infrared: 700, 735, and 870 nm; and Raking Light: 910 and 470 nm. The team digitally processed these images to reveal more of the underlying text with pseudocolor. They also digitized the original Heiberg images. Dr. Reviel Netz of Stanford University and Nigel Wilson have produced a diplomatic transcription of the text, filling in gaps in Heiberg's account with these images.[17]

[sharp flame]

Very interesting

I wonder if it links to anything else

[sharp flame]

also I spot an X..

[pure loom]

The criss-cross pattern in that text is very similar to the "interference patterns" shown in the images, and the first "grid"

[sharp flame]

Honestly, Rob's web of clues is probably so large that all of these things connect in some way

[pure loom]

I tried putting all the numbers here in a row, not the password... UV: 365 nanometers; Visible Light: 445, 470, 505, 530, 570, 617, and 625 nm; Infrared: 700, 735, and 870 nm; and Raking Light: 910 and 470 nm.

[sharp flame]

we just need to figure out which ones connect the most, iykwim

[pure loom]

Euclid could just be pointing to Johan Ludvig Heiberg, which, in turn, points to the Archimedes Palimpsest

Still gotta work out the Titan/s link

[sharp flame]

There was a meridian clue, could you repeat that one?

The O with the cross through it

is the latitude symbol

[pure loom]

Another image of the Archimedes Palimpsest

In April 2007, it was announced that a new text had been found in the palimpsest, which was a commentary on Aristotle's Categories running to some 9 000 words. Most of this text was recovered in early 2009 by applying principal component analysis to the three color bands (red, green, and blue) of fluorescent light generated by ultraviolet illumination.

https://tenor.com/view/smells-like-victory-apocalypse-now-gif-5656800

Or maybe just burnt toast...

The original Archimedes text shown in the document after image processing

[sharp flame]

I... found a Wikipedia mistake

it's actually supposed to be 361 feet I think

[pure loom]

The Archimedes Palimpsest is amazing really: Following the sack of Constantinople by Western crusaders in 1204, the manuscript was taken to an isolated Greek monastery in Palestine, possibly to protect it from occupying crusaders, who often equated Greek script with heresy against their Latin church and either burned or looted many such texts (including at least two other copies of Archimedes).[4][5] The complex manuscript was not appreciated at this remote monastery and was soon overwritten (1229) with a religious text.[6] In 1899, nine hundred years after it was written, the manuscript was still in the possession of the Greek church, and back in Istanbul, where it was catalogued by the Greek scholar Papadopoulos-Kerameus, attracting the attention of Johan Heiberg. Heiberg visited the church library and was allowed to make detailed photographs in 1906. Most of the original text was still visible, and Heiberg published it in 1915.[7] In 1922 the manuscript went missing in the midst of the evacuation of the Greek Orthodox library in Istanbul, during a tumultuous period following the first World War.[8] Concealed for over 70 years by a Western businessman, forged pictures were painted on top of some text to increase resale value.[8] Unable to sell the book privately, in 1998 the businessman's daughter risked a public auction in New York contested by the Greek church; the U.S. court ruled for the auction, and the manuscript was purchased by Jeff Bezos.[9] The texts under the forged pictures, and previously unreadable texts, were revealed by analyzing images produced by ultraviolet, infrared, visible and raking light, and X-ray.

[timid solstice]

Bezos and his books

[pure loom]

amazon is not the password

[pure loom]

The Fields Medal for Mathematics has Archimedes on it, effectively honoring him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal

[pure loom]

The Archimedes Palimpsest-like grid is in the background of the new image too

Comparing the shape of the S melongena flower image and the clue, they look the same to me - probably created from this image, which is one of the first found when searching for S melongena

The chevron shapes are back again too

[timid solstice]

That looks like a fern

[timid solstice]

I wonder if the specific image is of interest
"Flower
Norbert Nagel, Mörfelden-Walldorf, Germany
CC BY-SA 3.0"

[pure loom]

I think it's too geometric to be a fern.

[pure loom]

Can someone please remind me if the passwords can include characters like / or (

or is it just letters and numbers?

[latent peak]

As long as it's ascii it should be fine

[pure loom]

Thanks!

[slender lodge]

everytime i see a coin i really cant stop the urge to post the "on god we bussin" coin 😭

[sharp flame]

It really does look like a fern

[sharp flame]

Have we noticed this??

@pure loom I can't really make out what you meant by that, even though it's confirmed.

which part is the horizon?

[spring pollen]

man what did I miss lmao

[sharp flame]

Nothing concrete haha

[spring pollen]

y'all be goin deep

[sharp flame]

not deep enough apparently 😂

[pure loom]

I hadn’t noticed Rob’s reaction, no. I’m not sure what you mean about the horizon. I mean that the circle in the leather has a line across it and that looks like Saturn with its rings.

[sharp flame]

ahh right

It's definitely saturn

I was just wondering which line you thought was the horizon

The diagonal slash or the buckle

probably the buckle

[pure loom]

What horizon are you meaning? I meant the circle is just Saturn 🪐

[sharp flame]

The horizon you mention in Robs reaction message

[sharp flame]

the one he eyed

[pure loom]

Oh, I did! Lol

Yes, I guess I meant the buckle could be the surface of Titan

Hahaha

I forgot my own interpretation

[sharp flame]

I wonder if that part is what Rob also meant with the eye

as it could mean Titan, or could not be

but the eye makes me think it is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Saturn

Oooh

There's lots of links here

[pure loom]

Also notice when Saturn has its rings edge-on how the moons look a bit like Rob’s dots along a line clue

[sharp flame]

Galileo and Huygens

oh, Saturn was a Titan

could be what the Titan clue was referring to

directly

[pure loom]

True

[pure loom]

Had we found the Euclid/Saturn link, because I just found it?

[sharp flame]

We have not

I don't think

nothing direct

[pure loom]

Saturn is named after the Roman god of wealth and agriculture and father of Jupiter. Its astronomical symbol (♄) has been traced back to the Greek Oxyrhynchus Papyri, where it can be seen to be a Greek kappa-rho with a horizontal stroke, as an abbreviation for Κρονος (Cronus), the Greek name for the planet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyrhynchus_Papyri

The Oxyrhynchus papyrus is the link between the two

[sharp flame]

Yep, it checks out

[pure loom]

The Thomas Heath mentioned also worked on translating the works of Archimedes.

[sharp flame]

good job! I think this is it

[pure loom]

Thankfully, he wasn’t born in Devon

I thought the letters of his honours (“kcb kcvo frs fba”) might be the password - linking back to the original CBE clue on the 404 page. Sadly not.

Oxyrhyncus isn’t either.

[sharp flame]

Sol Invictus is a pretty interesting lead

[pure loom]

http://www.papyrology.ox.ac.uk/POxy/multi/index.html

Info on multi spectral imaging of papyri from Oxyrhynchus

[sharp flame]

will look into it when I have time, I think this might be very close to the answer

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_Oxyrhynchus_29

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theon_of_Alexandria

Solar eclipses 👀👀

[pure loom]

I've added the Saturn name-Oxyrhyncus papyri-Euclid link to the padlet

[pure loom]

A informative little video about the Oxyrhyncus papyri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJ0hqbu904

In 1612 the Earth passed through the plane of the rings and they became invisible. Mystified, Galileo remarked "I do not know what to say in a case so surprising, so unlooked for and so novel."[4] He mused, "Has Saturn swallowed his children?" — referring to the myth of the Titan Saturn devouring his offspring to forestall the prophecy of them overthrowing him.[5][6] He was further confused when the rings again became visible in 1613.[4]

Early astronomers used anagrams as a form of commitment scheme to lay claim to new discoveries before their results were ready for publication. Galileo used the anagram "smaismrmil­mepoeta­leumibu­nenugt­tauiras" for Altissimum planetam tergeminum observavi ("I have observed the most distant planet to have a triple form") for discovering the rings of Saturn.[7][8][9] Interesting little Easter egg-like bit in there - "smaismrmil­mepoeta­leumibu­nenugt­tauiras" is not the password, but would have been a good one!

Huygens began grinding lenses with his brother Constantijn in 1655 and was able to observe Saturn with greater detail using a 43× power refracting telescope that he designed himself. He was the first to suggest that Saturn was surrounded by a ring detached from the planet, and famously published the anagram: "aaaaaaa­ccccc­deeeeeg­hiiiiiii­llllmm­nnnnnnnnn­oooopp­qrrs­tttttuuuuu".[11] Three years later, he revealed it to mean Annuto cingitur, tenui, plano, nusquam coherente, ad eclipticam inclinato ("[Saturn] is surrounded by a thin, flat, ring, nowhere touching, inclined to the ecliptic").[12][4][13]

Is Rob descended from Huygens??

"aaaaaaa­ccccc­deeeeeg­hiiiiiii­llllmm­nnnnnnnnn­oooopp­qrrs­tttttuuuuu" is not the password

[fallen jasper]

I already tried that a bit ago

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-work-christian-bale-nodding-gif-12150720

[fallen jasper]

It's not the Latin phrase either iirc

You can try it tho

[pure loom]

I'll try

Yes!

You were right, it's not the password

[sharp flame]

Oh wow

that's a lot of words

[tulip matrix]

When you just tryna be a Thrinacian sun cow but some Greek frat bros show up and start calling you handsome

[pure loom]

I’m crying!

[fallen jasper]

My man is seeing into another reality

[tawdry jungle]

I've been coming back to this message every 10 mins to have a laugh

[tulip matrix]

Hahaha I'm glad y'all found this even funnier than I did

Must have eaten the wrong kind of grass haha

[tawdry jungle]

wait I just noticed the COW react LMAO

[vital cove]

calling odysseus and his companions "greek frat bros" is so irreverent and yet so correct

[tulip matrix]

They've clearly been mooved by what they saw

[tulip matrix]

[tawdry jungle]

🐮

[tulip matrix]

John Daye, printer of Euclid's The Elements, has little lightning bolts in the frame of his portrait

Interesting how all the wiki pages of these dudes seems to feature a woodcut portrait

[fallen jasper]

Which is kinda weird considering Woodcut was a bit more expensive to do until the 1700s when paper became a bit more widespread.

[tulip matrix]

John Day also printed Cosmographical Glasse by William Cuningham which features the same title page art as Euclid's The Elements

The book features Morpheus, God of dreams

Morpheus like the matrix?

The Matrix, as in the Brain in a Vat Argument?

The Matrix received the award for "Best Science Fiction Film" at the 26th Saturn Awards

[tulip matrix]

Morphine was named after Morpheus (the God)
Morphine is an Alkaloid

Solanine, the poison of the Nightshade family of plants (including Eggplants) is also an Alkaloid

[sharp flame]

I think John Daye is a really good lead

[tulip matrix]

Yes, a lot of connections there

[sharp flame]

Only cause I thought the Geometria in the Title page of the Elements was unique to that

but if all of John Daye's works have that cover, that's a whole new thing

and the lightning bolts are a dead giveaway

[sharp flame]

Good spot!

[sharp flame]

William Cunningham

Heidelberg

I think that's a pretty strong connection?

[tulip matrix]

I forgot how Heidelberg plays into this 😅

sun cow makes another appearance

[sharp flame]

Heidelberg observatory

1064 Aethusa was discovered there

[tulip matrix]

Ok gotcha

Thanks!

[sharp flame]

.

also 325 was in the 404 image

the asteroid named after Heidelberg is...
325 Heidelberga

so anytime Heidelberg appears I'm sure it has to be connected

Therefore Cunningham is a very good find

Cosmographical glasse doesn't have John Day's name on it

Oh wait I think it does

[tulip matrix]

They spell it weird

Iohn Daye

same with his portrait

Initials I.D.

[sharp flame]

can you find any other covers made by him?

[tulip matrix]

Foxe's Book of Martyrs

The password about to be something related to Woodcut prints and movable type lol

[sharp flame]

Yeah I'd seen that

not quite the same

[tulip matrix]

Well I haven't seen any other's that are the same style if that's what you meant

[sharp flame]

it's just that I've had no luck, yeah

would be quite the coincidence if it were only these two covers

[tulip matrix]

SR? is it really you?

[fallen jasper]

I was just talking about morphine

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_asteroid

"Karl Reinmuth"

guess where he was based

Heidelberg Observatory

10th Apollo mission was based in the Descartes Highlands

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4197_Morpheus

just a lot of connections haha

wait

Oh my god

Apollo is the god of the Sun

I totally forgot that

[bleak ledge]

[solar glade]

did a bit of backreading. so many cool findings

[sharp flame]

Not sure how to connect them though 😭

[solar glade]

hardest part

[sharp flame]

hmm...

[pure loom]

G’morning all. Great progress overnight!

[fallen jasper]

Morning Rockhound

[pure loom]

This looks like prequel cow to me.

[sharp flame]

If Rob hadn't confirmed the Saturn rings then I might've suggested the Apollo symbol

[pure loom]

If we’re looking at publication-related things, we should probably also keep Arthur C. Clarke’s Saturn Rising book in mind.

[pure loom]

The Matrix baby-farms look like eggplants

[sharp flame]

Absolutely horrifying but nice catch!

[tulip matrix]

Yes this is clearly an image taken before the trauma. He's far too trusting of those humans

[tulip matrix]

matrixeggplantbabypods is surprisingly not the password

[pure loom]

Rob clearly made a typo when setting the password up!

[proud minnow]

It was my original plan, but then I realised that "matrixeggplantbabypods" would be way too easy for our amazing EE-hunters... ._.

[pure loom]

True. I admire your judgement of our abilities.

[quiet silo]

Catch me sending "matrixeggplantbabypods" through every cypher I can get my hands on.

[pure loom]

This might be a stretch, but I wonder if these mic lines could be a representation of a Sentinel ('Squiddy') from The Matrix?

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-about-time-happy-excited-gif-15811226

or is it this ^

[sharp flame]

https://tenor.com/view/david-harbour-thumbs-up-planning-thinking-dwyerkev-gif-26116480

obviously the only way to find the answer is to enter the Matrix...🕵️

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

[sharp flame]

Just entered "matrix" as a keyword

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(printing)

might be connected somehow

to John Daye ( the guy who printed The Elements, and has the lightning bolt on his portrait )

also I don't think we've solved that X in the square yet

[pure loom]

which one, can you post the pic please?

[fallen jasper]

Is it x marks the spot again

[sharp flame]

this

[pure loom]

thanks

[sharp flame]

now that I look at it, it's quite curved actually

and lopsided

[pure loom]

it's quite curvy

[sharp flame]

it doesn't go straight in the centre

looks more like this now

if I knew what that was called this would be a lot easier 🤣

[pure loom]

It doesn't look like a Greek character

[sharp flame]

"X with curves but curving upwards and not sideways"

also I do think it's interesting that the Xth appears again

[pure loom]

^ this looks a bit like a chromosome

[sharp flame]

maybe the Xth was one of the first things we were supposed to find, and Rob, just so that we wouldn't miss it, had it readded to this one?

just a theory though

[pure loom]

yeah

These clues are heading towards including everything we know in the universe

[sharp flame]

yeah, but we also gotta consider that the trimming in the Jacket itself just happens to be tall where they used it

also this might say TITUS

[pure loom]

The answer will be "life, the universe and everything"

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus

^^79 AD^^

[fallen jasper]

We're getting closer to the Byzantine Empire again

[pure loom]

I'll go through every letter combination for a 5th letter on the thumb

[fallen jasper]

[sharp flame]

gonna look into Titus

if I'm being honest it's probably cause Titan is named after him

or vice versa

or they're named after the same person

[pure loom]

Maybe the person has "MENIN" on their right hand and "GITUS" on their left

It's a med student going to extremes to cheat a test

[fallen jasper]

Born on Dec 30th 39AD

Hmm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus

[pure loom]

In Catalan mythology, Nitus are small matter, impossible to describe by their smallness, which fall into a person's ear and go to the brain. They do not kill, but are said to feed like maggots on the memory and create tiredness and forgetfulness. My god.

Horrific.

I went through every _itus - Titus seems almost certain

Vitus was the only other word that has any decent Wikipedia entries, but they're almost all short entries with no obvious relationship to the clues

[sharp flame]

Assuming the final letter is an S, of course, and not a B or an 8

But Titus seems like a very strong connection to the 79AD answer

now give me an hour to go through Titus (disambiguation) 😭😭

[pure loom]

Devon got dumped pretty quickly. Not pretty enough.

[pure loom]

Hard to tell, but I think an S is definitely a possibility

[sharp flame]

oh right

[pure loom]

T Rex!

Yes

[sharp flame]

makes a lot of sense actually

[pure loom]

He is named after the protagonist in Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Andronicus

[sharp flame]

wait

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned before

[pure loom]

I can't find any mention of it before

[sharp flame]

nevermind 😭 😭 😭

^^here^^

[timid solstice]

Hello hunters

[sharp flame]

and it was me 😭

[sharp flame]

hello there!

I'm only just realising how lost I am in all these clues hahaha

[sharp flame]

and also confirmed by Rob

[timid solstice]

Who’s named after shakespeares titus? Rexie?

[sharp flame]

yeah

Titus the Trex

[timid solstice]

Yeah you were the one that found that trex 😅

[sharp flame]

I mean he says it's not that obvious

meaning there's more connections than just that

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-what-lets-just-start-over-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-from-the-beginning-never-mind-gif-20020560

[sharp flame]

well I didn't realise before that Titan was a reference to 79AD

so it's some progress at least

[timid solstice]

Titan or Titus?

[sharp flame]

Titus sorry

also it seems obvious that Titan and Titus are connected

but I'm not sure there are actually any direct links yet

need to look a bit more

[timid solstice]

Is the moon named after him then?

[sharp flame]

no actually

the race of Titans in Greek Mythology

[timid solstice]

https://www.britannica.com/place/Titan-astronomy

Look at all those moooons

[pure loom]

Coincidentally, right now I'm listening to 'For All The Cows' by Foo Fighters.

https://tenor.com/view/dave-grohl-that-sounds-like-gif-16064683

Willis H. O'Brien was the first person to put T rex into a movie, using stop-motion animation. He also happened to work on The Last Days of Pompeii in 1935

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_H._O'Brien

[sharp flame]

No luck with the curved X so far

[pure loom]

Imagine if we get a live T rex as a special event in THE FINALS...

[sharp flame]

👀

[tranquil ivy]

Wrecking ball 2.0

[sharp flame]

now THAT would be insane

[pure loom]

Rexy ball

[sharp flame]

I hope the T Rex charm makes it into the game

it's cute

okay also this might be a bit of a stretch

but before, "projective geometry" was mentioned

and in all of these images

the Finals logo is projected onto the character/background (+glare for added effect)

[pure loom]

Yeah, I've been wondering about the projection thing too

Maybe a hint to an old movie

Actually, to be fair, they still use projectors...

[pure loom]

I've found a new lead...

Do you remember how Rob wrote about the EEs here, and in that he left the letter "d" out of "adventure," writing "aventure" instead?

[sharp flame]

mhm...

I was trying to connect those to the old english in the Elements and stuff

since they were missing out quite a few letters

[pure loom]

Well, Aventure is a brand of wine, made by Chateau d'Astros in France: https://www.chateauastros.com/en/homepage/.

One of their wines is called "Moon" https://www.chateauastros.com/en/our-wines/moon/

[sharp flame]

ooooh

[pure loom]

That's all I have at this stage

[sharp flame]

gonna look up "aventure" to see if anything pops up

[pure loom]

Freely inspired by the palaces in Tuscany, the Château d’Astros was built in 1860 by a keen admirer of the Italian Renaissance. Sumptuous decorations are hidden behind its stately frontage and its imposing columns: a gigantic dome representing the 12 astrological signs of Zodiac, an inlaid marble stairwell and many lavishly decorated salons. The beauty of this castle is enhanced in every colour scheme, noble material and attention to detail.

From the d'Astros website

[sharp flame]

he also ends it with a ?1

instead of ?!

[pure loom]

yes

[sharp flame]

not usual for him

plus the message is edited, so he definitely could've changed it back if he wanted to

maybe

idk might be reading too deep into that

[pure loom]

I also noted he used the word "web" - possibly a reference to Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars, but that might be a stretch

We do have the David Bowie lightning mark

Which is from his Alladin Sane album

The one after ZS and TSFM

[sharp flame]

also just realised that Rob signs his messages with ._.

._. = R

for Rob..?

lmao

[sharp flame]

adorable

[pure loom]

I've added the Rob comments as a starting piece in the padlet

[pure loom]

We should probably also keep a painting in the back of our minds too, based on his comments

[tulip matrix]

Dinosaurs in general are sometimes referred to as titans

[pure loom]

true that

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dinosaurs-probably-older-saturns-rings-180967565/

TIL

[sharp flame]

wait WHAT

no way

my whole worldview

[pure loom]

A graphical representation of where we are with this:

https://tenor.com/view/lots-of-rooms-veritasium-tons-of-rooms-many-rooms-long-hallway-gif-24985959

It feels like we have sooo many clues and none of them go too deep

@sharp flame Titus Andronicus was the first Shakespeare play to be put into print

[latent peak]

I've been down that route too, no luck with google lens/picture search.
The closest thing i could find was a swedish train company called MTRX 😛

Here's a reconstruction though if anyone wanna try their luck at image search

[neon stream]

I finished all my projects already, and took my last two finals today. Finally some peace! I'll be flying home tomorrow, so I guess I'll catch up on the hunt during the weekend! You guys seem really close already! We got this! 💪🏻

[neon stream]

Nononono, he signs the messages " ... ._. " which is " SR ", meaning Saint Rob 😛

[pure loom]

It looks a bit like images of event horizons for black holes in various sci-fi movies

[pure loom]

Ha! Good spotting, I hadn't seen he had started doing that

[neon stream]

That's actually why I started the Saint Rob joke 😂

☝🏻 😛

I see that the Padlet has no altar for SR yet, I'll add it so we get his guidance 😛

There we go, now our chances of solving this have increased by a lot... ._. 🙏🏻

[fallen jasper]

🙏

[neon stream]

@fallen jasper congrats on being mod now! 💪🏻

[fallen jasper]

Thank ya

Keeping the Padlet, and now the server safe.

[pure loom]

I may have found a breakthrough rabbit hole that relates to multiple clues. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

https://segaretro.org/Sega_Titan_Video

Other clues that could fit: all the light/rainbow clues pointing to the system using a CD-ROM; the Sega systems apparently weren’t great at processing polygons but were good at processing “sprites” (the lightning dots clue); T-Rex could relate to the Jurassic Park game being released on Sega systems.

[sharp flame]

We'd have to connect this to the Elements, at which point we'll probably have an answer!

[pure loom]

The Sega Saturn article discusses the geometry of polygons being an issue for the system. They used rectangles vs triangles for other systems.

Which was one of the main reasons it failed, apparently.

[vital cove]

what the fuck

I did not expect this turn of events at the start of this tier lmfao

[fallen jasper]

Do we get a lifeline like in that one gameshow

If so I can call my dad he's a big sega Saturn fan

[pure loom]

I had considered the lines and light relating to CDs, but couldn’t make a way for it to connect.

Until now.

The first character also has scratches on her face - a major issue for CDs.

Neither sega or polygon are the password.

For reference

[pure loom]

In particular, Dreisbach criticized the Saturn's use of quadrilaterals as its basic geometric primitive, in contrast to the triangles rendered by the PlayStation and the Nintendo 64.[152] Ken Humphries of Time Warner Interactive remarked that compared to the PlayStation, the Saturn was worse at generating polygons but better at sprites.

These dots might represent the CD pits and lands seen above.

[sharp flame]

Oh, that looked more like Morse to me

[pure loom]

I thought so too, but the lengths aren’t even. Morse should be pretty clear 3 dots worth of time to a dash, the same between letters and 7 between words. The CD pits and lands seems to fit the more random nature of these marks.

Plus we have the multiple sections of parallel lines, which could also represent the lines of pits and lands on a CD, just on a different scale

[sharp flame]

You'd think there'd be more than one line of the pattern next to each other

and not so far apart

[pure loom]

Yeah, perhaps. But maybe Rob was trying to keep it subtle.

[sharp flame]

I'm gonna try a few passwords related to that then

but if it's Morse, the "c" might be as important as "f" was for Mendelevium in the f-block

[pure loom]

Maybe Rexy refers to a dinosaur console?

[sharp flame]

I think the PS1 T-Rex demo is more likely here

since the PS1 and Saturn were the main two out at the same time

[pure loom]

It is extinct

https://tenor.com/view/siutbot-dinosaur-reaction-planet-gif-20931745

[sharp flame]

Good to know 😭

[pure loom]

That’s a good possibility

[proud minnow]

Hi all.!
Just wanted to wish yu all a great weekend.!

[fallen jasper]

You too

[sharp flame]

You too

missing o this time

[pure loom]

Is the o a Moon or a CD?

None of the Sega Saturn guesses got 👀 from Rob, but is that because they’re wrong or because they’re close?

[sharp flame]

There seems to be a trend of missing letters

[pure loom]

Yes, definitely

[sharp flame]

someone should try collecting them

might be a word being spelled out?

Either that or our answer is related to missing letters in some way

also weird observation

it's always the second letter which is missing

[fallen jasper]

Can't wait for the spelled out word to be moon

[slender lodge]

XD

[pure loom]

There is some weird Yu-no shuttle mouse for the Sega Saturn

Most of the info is people selling them on eBay and the like

https://segaretro.org/Shuttle_Mouse

Better info

Maybe the missing letters are like a CD skipping

The password is “You my brown-eyed gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-gi…

[fallen jasper]

What

[elfin pecan]

Idk

[tulip matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/vinyl-records-record-collection-warped-vinyl-playing-music-record-player-gif-21484870

[sharp flame]

hmm

[neon stream]

Do we have a list of characters Rob missed? I remember that there was an H missing in "character" at one point a while ago

So far, what this could mean is that we need to buy him a Grammarly subscription 😛

Here. It was on the name of the image

[tulip matrix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Book_of_Songs_(1597)

Same title page
Different printer

[sharp flame]

okay wait so what does the 1-10 mean?

and if it's referring to 10 things, what's the 10th?

I'm interested now

[tulip matrix]

I assumed it's just referring to integers

[sharp flame]

could it be that there are 10 books with this cover?

with integers there'd be a 0

not a 10, right?

but it does seem to refer to the Arithmetica yeah

[tulip matrix]

or just counting numbers

something like that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number

[proud minnow]

BTW did u say u wanted a chill weekend..?

[neon stream]

No, you are allowed to post new image SR 🙏🏻

... ._.

[tulip matrix]

I'm down for either

Am sick so I'm stuck inside either gaming or researching

[neon stream]

Get well soon 👍🏻

[proud minnow]

Get well soon (but at least you are not driving and EE-hunting).!

[sharp flame]

If a chill weekend involves sipping a cup of hot chocolate in front of a new image...

[neon stream]

I'm going to the airport in 3 hours, so I'll appreciate something to entertain myself 😂

[sharp flame]

It's -2C out here, so I'd say my weekend is already gonna be quite chill 😭

[solar glade]

[tawdry jungle]

such a good image

[sharp flame]

WOAHHHH

that looks amazing??!!!

[solar glade]

photoshop:LayerName="Have a great weekend and GLHF..." photoshop:LayerText="...from embark with love.!"/>

[sharp flame]

so worth the wait hahaha

we gotta stop finding these clues 🤣

[sharp flame]

okay, buncha clues incoming

brace yourselves

[tulip matrix]

Thanks all and don't worry I'm 100% against using my phone while driving

[sharp flame]

pattern here

also

more glorious hair

🥚

[neon stream]

I'm on mobile so I can't see well, but I think there's a word hidden there

[sharp flame]

lines hidden at the top of the image

lengths:

202
456
1111

????

[tulip matrix]

[sharp flame]

what do you mean

also that can't be a coincidence

202 456 1111

in that order

is the White house number

have no idea how it connects though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beside_You_(Van_Morrison_song)

okay, any other ways we could arrange the numbers? my brain is too tired to see any right now

huh

20500...

nearly

[hidden nacelle]

[sharp flame]

can someone confirm those lengths?

just wanna make sure before I delve into the White House wikipedia page haha

[tulip matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke27QakSPxM

[hidden nacelle]

bottom right theres a signature

[sharp flame]

Kepler

[sharp flame]

He did appear in the Euclid pages and Saturn pages

but I wrote it off since these astronomers always appear in each other's work 😭

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler

what a peculiar name

[solar glade]

gotta get back to work

[tulip matrix]

Candle flame

[sharp flame]

owie my eyes

[tulip matrix]

there ya go lol

[sharp flame]

ty

0345351738

for copypasting purposes^

lil bright square in the corner

unique to this photo

[hidden nacelle]

is that on the gun?

[sharp flame]

on the E in THE

top of it

[hidden nacelle]

looks like numbers on the gun

[sharp flame]

it does

but they're super blurry

no Idea how to unblur

looks like a word actually

ooh

2061 clue returns

[tulip matrix]

I see 3 squares

little medium big

[sharp flame]

to summarise that:
The book talks about Halley's comet

He planned to release it after the launch of Galileo

The main character is called Heywood Floyd (not so sure about this)

[sharp flame]

gonna plot that now

that is also an egg

or some sort of specific elliptical shape

y intercept is ( 0 , 0.3906 )

There might be an asteroid with this specific shape that we need to find, perhaps?

[vital cove]

Hahaha I was right!

[sharp flame]

I'll never disregard a Rob comment again

[vital cove]

😂

[sharp flame]

oh woah when was this posted

[vital cove]

I've never seen that before

[tulip matrix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methone_(moon)

[sharp flame]

ooh like Methane which has been popping up too

xxxii is not the password unfortunately

[tulip matrix]

Observed by Cassini
Has "oscillating orbital elements" also known as Kepler elements

[sharp flame]

if we can link this to The Elements then we're golden

[sharp flame]

they are pretty closely linked due to their careers being so close

[sharp flame]

where is this??

[tulip matrix]

That's in the footer

[solar glade]

bottom center of the footer

[sharp flame]

okay recalculated

instead of = y

I just put it = a number

now we have a symmetrical egg

not sure what to do with it though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methone_cecilia like the butterfly..?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meton_of_Athens

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterium_Cosmographicum

[tulip matrix]

damn i was just looking at a graph that looks exactly like this

I'll try and find it

[sharp flame]

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2585473/how-to-solve-and-oval-and-a-circle

this exact formula appears here ^^

[vital cove]

Hahaha

Rob's sources unmasked

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini_oval

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_oval

just looking at things surrounding the equation for an oval

hmmm

[tranquil ivy]

Trying to get on of my other friends to use this, i've got 4 out of 8

[pure loom]

Whoa. Lots has happened. I like how you can come up with an interesting path and within hours it’s gone because Rob posts new art. Auf wiedersehen, Sega Saturn 👋

[sharp flame]

It doesn't have to be gone, Rob says there are 4-5 connections to each clue piece

The Sega Saturn may yet live 👀

[tulip matrix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_universalis

[sharp flame]

Also, I've been wondering why Embark doesn't post this art to the The Finals account on twitter like they used to