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this is literally the topic of ||1899||
I'll be honest I've never understood this phenomenon more than when I started EE hunting
which could mean, clue themes on 1899 and has the earth symbol, look at the planet symbols, look and find saturn
In the European and Arabian traditions of alchemy, lead โ was considered an impure base metal which, by the separation, . . . , could be transformed to . . . gold
okay wait
"But what of the fabled transmutation of lead to gold? It is indeed possibleโall you need is a particle accelerator, a vast supply of energy and an extremely low expectation of how much gold you will end up with. More than 30 years ago nuclear scientists at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL) in California succeeded in producing very small amounts of gold from bismuth, a metallic element adjacent to lead on the periodic table."
only one step away, if you think about it
just run, then your particles will be accelerating
trueeeee
Maybe they match another rover? Also this clue would coincide with the "tire-tread" tattoo the previous character has on her ear.
crash test marker, Cassini was crashed into Saturn in its Grand Finale
This and the other luminescent lighting on the weapon look like images of aurora on Saturn
Also the overall colour palette is similar to this image
..." Cassini science team announced that the proximal orbits of the probe would be named the "Grand Finale""
Leith clues were to Atmospheric models
Even including the green from that image
they were?
So, confirming this path, you think?
Did you guys see the Leith -> Brain In a Vat connection?
ofc I mentioned it ๐
I think so
must have been a weird coincidence
It's really weird that the clues can have dual or triple meanings
not possible surely
Leith is a rare name
the image is saying "Saturn- saTURn.... SATURN!"
and the Film is the only one which appears on the BIV wikipage
oh really
oh yeah
so wierd that i was watching it and didnt even mention it and it shows up
my Wife was like " wtf are you watching "
If the lines on the legs are just waves, then this is an interference pattern
Chicxulub
that.. is a pretty good connection to asteroids
maybe the crash test symbol is supposed to represent a crash of some sort?
either meteor impact or satellite crash
Sprite lightning
These could be sprites blue jets
I mean they're also accurate reflections of the blue light source on the right
but they might be bright enough to mean something
THE FINALSโข๏ธ
Hey @timid solstice with the padlet, the green colour should be for observation of clues (just noting they existing) and the orange is possible interpretation - if the green has interpretation in it, then it gets confusing if alternative interps are linked to it
pretty sure its just a weapon charm
Rob has used the T-rex in the past, in BF EEs
maybe hinting at a another asteroid
Could be, or an impact. I think Jupiter is the only planet where a comet impact has been observed
sorted it
I see that! Thanks! ๐
can you give other certain people permission to move/edit in padlet?, would be nice
Yeah, move especially
fr fr
It gets crowded in there
The image names may be a reference to Brownian noise
which can be called both brown noise and red noise
as in Brownian motion?
and the fact that when youu manipulate the image you get red noise
Yes exactly
the name is derived specifically from that
im here waving my arms around to feel the gas particles in the air now that i cant see
I can only let everyone edit. I think I've made it so you can edit it only if you're logged in now.
oh cool hopefully noone is naughty
Hopefully~
Reading up about crash test dummies is alarming...
yeah careful
nutters
If you leave your body for science here in the states there is a very good chance the military will buy your corpse for munitions testing
The Secchi disk (or Secchi disc), as created in 1865 by Angelo Secchi, is a plain white, circular disk 30 cm (12 in) in diameter used to measure water transparency or turbidity in bodies of water. The disc is mounted on a pole or line, and lowered slowly down in the water. The depth at which the disk is no longer visible is taken as a measure of...
Virginia Leith from The Brain That Wouldn't Die donated to medical science at the UCLA Medical School.
you think the army blew her up?
Angelo Secchi S.J. (Italian pronunciation: [หandสelo หsekki]; 28 June 1818 โ 26 February 1878) was an Italian Catholic priest, astronomer from the Italian region of Emilia.[1] He was director of the observatory at the Pontifical Gregorian University (then called the Roman College) for 28 years. He was a pioneer in astronomical spectroscopy, and was one of the first scientists to state authoritatively that the Sun is a star.
spectroscopy is the new Byzantine Empire
Have the markings here been resolved?
and the character is blue and the rim light is orange
annoying gif lol
we got side tracked by the ceres is saturn symbol
thanks
This is what I see. Anyone else refined them more?
can you share that clean image no notes, its nice, will try adding my interp
sorry yes, SPEAR tried #easter-eggs message
Oh yes, the C X thing looks more correct that my star
I see you lurking, waiting to post the answer!
Angelo Secchi also discovered solar spicules. And I wondered if these patterns/lines on the first character's face might be those.
In solar physics, a spicule, also known as a fibril or mottle, is a dynamic jet of plasma in the Sun's chromosphere about 300 km in diameter. They move upwards with speeds between 15 and 110 km/s from the photosphere and last a few minutes each. They were discovered in 1877 by Angelo Secchi, but the physical mechanism that generates them is stil...
I see "Fifth Element" for some reason
Oof.
America ๐บ๐ธ
Gg
i love how they have the ๐ฆ on the bluescreen
Still, I thought that wouldn't be an issue with a decent water cooler
I have over 100 and use a laptop, what tabs do you have open haha
Where did you find that?
EZ
Your image looks right though
A binary star is a system of two stars that are gravitationally bound to and in orbit around each other. Binary stars in the night sky that are seen as a single object to the naked eye are often resolved using a telescope as separate stars, in which case they are called visual binaries. Many visual binaries have long orbital periods of several...
In astronomy, the barycenter (or barycentre; from Ancient Greek ฮฒฮฑฯฯฯ (barรบs) 'heavy', and ฮบฮญฮฝฯฯฮฟฮฝ (kรฉntron) 'center') is the center of mass of two or more bodies that orbit one another and is the point about which the bodies orbit. A barycenter is a dynamical point, not a physical object. It is an important concept in fields such as astronomy...
Good linking!
they all equal 0 or similar right?
What was the answert?
we dont have it yet
another clue?
ye we got a new image
this would link it to Copernicus
Lol I wish. I'm trying to keep myself a bit up to date with the hunt for when I come back. The semester is almost over and I have tons of things to do. After December 10 I should be free to continue with the hunt ๐
New shipment of Yerba Mate just arrived, 15 Kg ๐
They cost like $15 each, but buying many it costs like $10, so it's cheaper ๐
I feel like at this point you should just grow your own ๐
Sadly it only grows in certain climates, and the process and the return is not that good unless you have a lot of land. Otherwise...I would 100% would ๐
Thank you Dusty!
what is this?
They are dried leaves of Yerba Mate (a plant). It's used to prepare an infusion drank in South America called mate ๐ง
Mate or matรฉ () also known as chimarrรฃo or cimarrรณn, is a traditional South American caffeine-rich infused drink. It is made by soaking dried leaves of the yerba mate (Ilex paraguariensis), in hot water and is served with a metal straw in a container typically made from a calabash gourd (the mate proper), but also in some areas made from a cattl...
Basically it's like a tea, we just drink it in a weird way ๐
And Yerba Mate is an official ingredient of the OSPUZE energy drinks
. That's my own lore ๐
good ole energy tea eggnog
pretty weirdd yeah lol
The weirdness doesn't stop there. It's more of a social drink, so we all drink from the same straw ๐
So it's like a russian roulette nowadays, but a corona virus edition
sounds kinda interesting, where can I buy one
or can I make my own
A Venn diagram of unions and intersections for two sets, A and B and their complements, within a universe ฮฉ A,B .
So, from that 79=48=111=0x30 clue, the left circle group could be 79, the right 111, and the intersection of the Venn diagram 48. But what would 0x30 mean?
Hahaha
John Venn, FRS, FSA (4 August 1834 โ 4 April 1923) was an English mathematician, logician and philosopher noted for introducing Venn diagrams, which are used in logic, set theory, probability, statistics, and computer science. In 1866, Venn published The Logic of Chance, a ground-breaking book which espoused the frequency theory of probability, ...
Circles are similar to Copernicus planet orbits too
This diagram, presented in the more mathematical focused section of the book, illustrates the underpaying complexity of the system. The sun is at the center and the other circles are necessary to illustrate the movement of just one of the planets. Copernicus' system required perfect circular motion, and as such, it still required (much smaller) epicycles, for the planets to match their observed motions.
I saw CX D| |B |A |E
I can't see the circle however
The circle isn't completely there it just lines up perfectly with the X and the lines next to each letter
Aah got ya! Now it makes sense
The circles line up 100% and are exactly the same scale. The C and E is there 100%. The D is there but to me also looks like a bigger sideways 6. The B is kind of there and I canโt really see the A at all.
I found the A is easier to see if you dont zoom in to far
Hello ๐ Ping me when you've solved this tier and I'll get back for the next.
Almost done with becoming the greatest master of Pokรฉmon again ๐
I know, I know. It's shameful really, but I've been catching them mons for the last 24 years or so, can't stop now ๐คท
I just started
It's so much fun wtf
@prisma stump Solving the EEs are fun as well, but it can get a bit exhausting when you work a full day and then spend 5 hours just analyzing a single image for the fourth night in a row ๐ Just needed to unwind with some mindless fun
Okay, I think now would be a good time to organize all of our current clues
cause we have loads of connections
and I think we have enough to see the big picture now
pin is up to date #easter-eggs message
yeah, was just looking at it
I think the padlet does a pretty good job too
you just kinda get hit with information overload sometimes, if you know what I mean
did we ever figure out this eye
cause that is one big pupil
.
I measured both irises and they were the same, but the pupils might be different. It looks odd. Possible reference to David Bowie?
I think thats just the source of the finals text beeing that been beamed on her face
I agree, the sputniks made the most sense as well if its reference Van Morisson
FOUND IT
congruent circles
it's this
right?
the E lines up perfectly
the r is basically a c
yes I think that's it
okay nothing new really, just it's appearance in Euclid's Elements
it has a wiki page though
I mean I think Euclid might be our password holder maybe
Yeah ive been wondering the same. Im trying to find a way to connect it to Renรฉ Descartes
A Cartesian coordinate system (UK: , US: ) in a plane is a coordinate system that specifies each point uniquely by a pair of numerical coordinates, which are the signed distances to the point from two fixed perpendicular oriented lines, measured in the same unit of length. Each reference coordinate line is called a coordinate axis or just axis (...
oo nice
so either the clues are pointing towards Descartes, or Euclid
325 seems like a Euclid thing from the start
but maybe we were supposed to link him to Descartes through Virginia Leith with the Brain thing
aaah that makes sense. Cus Cecil Leith doesnt really fit in anymore
OHHHHHHHH
O = 0 = o = 0
"Euclidian Geometry is the study of geometry without the use of coordinates"
in other words
no grid or scale
oooh
I think the O = 0 = o = 0 refers to geometry which doesn't care about shape/size
just realised Euclidian geometry is kinda the opposite of that
That makes total sense, I thought it represented planets lol.
Projective Geometry is mentioned early on the page of Euclidian Geometry
anyway buncha clues stemming from that Euclid one
probably more than before
but it's one down
Thats great! I got a lot to research after work. I still don't understand how to get any numbers from Euclidian Geometry.
Like, can you apply it to for example Titan ?
I don't think we're supposed to get numbers from it
Oh right
Titan might have been the direct reference to Huygens
Christiaan Huygens discovered Titan
Cassini-Huygens is named after him
the satellite which had the SATCAT code appear in the 2nd image
Right, damn this changes everything
Or just a reference directly to the Cassini probe, which was sent directly to Titan
Copernicus is referenced in Giovanni Cassini's page once or twice
I'm just not sure whether we're supposed to find the point where these two clue threads meet, or if they're already connected by the fact that Copernicus inspired Cassini/Huygens
a lot of inspiring going on
This is an interesting article that brings together some of the clues that we have been working on:
Article is about Neptune - Which seems to be a clue but we haven't used it much.
A comet hit Neptune - Possible connection to the impact clues.
The reason scientists think a comet hit Neptune based on the carbon monoxide and methane distributions found in Neptune's atmosphere - I bring this up because there was mention of a bovine disease and possible link to those gasses.
This was studied with an infrared telescope (Herschel Space Telescope) - Maybe that means something?
I suppose, all that to say, we may be looking for something having to do with comets/asteroids impacting other planets in our solar system. Also a possible explanation for the overlapping circles (overlapping orbits/trajectories). Maybe I'm reaching, this article just seemed to graze a number of topics that have been discussed.
https://www.space.com/8807-comet-smacked-neptune-200-years-data-suggests.html
Yeah my girlfriend pointed this out to me at the time
Yeah the 6 degrees of separation is really tight when it comes to those big thinkers
She's not involved with the Easter egg hunt otherwise but she's very chuffed that Euclid has made a comeback since then
hey, maybe Euclid is gonna be the answer too haha
yeah, Degrees of Separation was the phrase I was looking for
Copernicus, Euclid, Descartes are all appearing just as much as Plato, Pythagoras, Kepler etc.
it's hard to know who are supposed to be connected as they all already are
Did you see this? #easter-eggs message
Yes
looked into it a bit more
Vesica Piscis is the shape formed in a specific overlapping of 2 circles
2 circles, where the centre of one lies on the circumference of the other
the exact clue image is specifically of the Vesica Piscis in Euclid's book
the only reason I found this image is cause I searched "congruent circles" in wikipedia
Top letter looks like a C though
Not gamma
idk i've learned that if it's 90% there then it's probably that
especially with Euclid being the artist here
wait
isn't the left symbol
Delta
= D
and Gamma
= G
it's the Euclid proof with English characters
G looks like a C
could be that
also I see the triangle now
me too
it was faint but I see the triangle corners on A and B
look there's no way it's anything but this
we can treat this as a Descartes family crest
or a Mendeleev coin
what do you mean?
Descartes method was NOT this
as in, it looks close enough that we should treat it as true, solely because of its connections
I see
although to be fair that Descartes crest looks identical
but so does the Euclid diagram
either way, can I put it on the padlet?
im on it
okay deleting mine
where do we go from here
you can move things around
okay but something like the venn diagram thread
I mean I guess it can stay, but it doesn't really fit into our clues anymore, or at all
yeah things should stay but can be moved to clear space
makes sense
it's just quite hard to follow once you have to look back on it and they all seem as important as each other
Dante's 9 Circles of Hell stayed ๐
I only noticed it when trying to sift through it to make the recap ๐ญ
but anyway yeah
I just feel like it would be easier to remove them and readd them if they did mean something
we could decide a colour for more or less confirmed routes
Red - โyouโre getting hotterโ 
this one for example can probably be cut out of the middle
Red seems like a pretty good colour choice actually
I renamed 'Symbols' to 'Vesina Piscis Diagram'
if that's okay
Maybe instead of some sort of Venn diagram or binary orbits, the overlapping circles could represent an interference pattern from two point sources?
On my phone but let me see if I can find a better example
did you see the Vesina Piscis diagram
I think that itself was our 'connection' to Euclid
The interference of two sets of periodic and concentric waves with the same frequency produces an interesting pattern in a ripple tank that consists of a collection of nodal points and anti-nodal points, each of which lies along some distinct lines.
No, Iโll take a look
this
Replace the C with a G and everything else lines up
can you also post the raw image
sure will do
yeah im trying to get the B to pop
that's great!
triangle is clear
you can probably use VP-2 on the padlet
it's just a geometrical thingy which appears in Euclid's Elements
it's how you make a triangle
without using a grid
Yeah, maybe it just confirms Euclid. Euclid is the new Mendeleev
by just a compass and a straight edge
Where euclidium? 
That list is good! Rabbit holes waiting to be rabbited.
it's 00:28, so I might have to put that on hold ๐ญ
Iโm at work and finishing lunch, so Iโll looks later
Where in the world are you
I just heard the phrase "Cartesian coordinate system" used, first time hearing it in my life. And only a few days after learning of it myself
the universe is a strange place
anyway goodbye y'all ๐
really? interesting. i studied Architecture and itโs sorta general knowledge for us 
get gabed
Iโm going to throw a wild card idea into the mixโฆ
Three out of the four symbols for the band Led Zeppelin have elements represented in the clues - Jimmy Pageโs logo (first on the left) is a medieval symbol for the planet Saturn - also the lower part of this symbol might actually be shown on the outer ear of character one - the white line that runs along the edge of her ear looks a lot like that part of the logo and could be drawn on. John Bonhamโs symbol (third from the left) is potentially represented by the overlapping circles clue. The feather of the Maโat in Robert Plantโs symbol (4th from the left) is potentially what is shown next to the cross on the character in image two. I donโt think weโve see anything from John Paul Jonesโ symbol (second from the left). Rabbit hole presenteth. 
(Bonus fact - Jimmy Page played guitar on an early Van Morrison recording).
Interesting line from the LZ song โGood Times, Bad Timesโ: โGood times, bad times, you know I've had my share
When my woman left home for a brown-eyed man
But I still don't seem to careโ
This marking on the first characterโs ear is what I mean by the similarity to the lower part of the Jimmy Page logo.
I kinda see it, yeah
Separately, character two appears to have a bullet wound in her right shoulder.
Is it supposed to represent a crater?
And are those symbols along the edge of her top next to the wound/crater?
oh yeah i saw that when the image was released, thought nothing of it lmaooo
Probably we need to compare a bunch of craters that are named after people that we think are linked in clues. The top right of it looks a little like Cassini crater
Cassini is a lunar impact crater that is located in the Palus Nebularum, at the eastern end of Mare Imbrium. The crater was named after astronomers Giovanni Cassini and Jacques Cassini. To the northeast is the Promontorium Agassiz, the southern tip of the Montes Alpes mountain range. South by south-east of Cassini is the crater Theaetetus. To th...
But then the inner surface of it looks very rough, which wouldnโt match that well.
how is going the hunt? im always busy at work ๐ฆ
I didnโt see anything about it, but Iโve only been in here in and off the last few days
Okay, I think it's supposed to mean something
going well I think
it's supposed to be harder, right? ๐ฅฒ
Oh i totally missed that! Nice
I haven't seen it being discussed, its the first time we see the Mac 10 from this angle. I havent found a real life version with 2.. screw holes ? (I dont know guns).
Usually theres only one, like this https://modernfirearms.net/en/submachine-guns/u-s-a-submachine-guns/ingram-mac-10-m10-m11-eng/#group-2
On the other sides there's only one "circle" https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031539174743998526/1035157401457930300/THE_FINALS_Extra_OSPUZE_Candy.jpg
They could be alluding to the same thing as the eyes from the first pic..?
pair of circles, similar size
not sure what this pair of circles could represent
but if it means something, it's probably something in the realm of Descartes / Euclid or Copernicus
I'm still perplexed about this clue
the 831 Stateira kinda came out of the Max Wolf connection, which Rob had highlighted
and then Rob specifically points out the 831 for us
18th of February beta test?????
I assumed he was correcting us since we were on the track believing it was 110D631.
I think the key is discovering what the D stands for.
Maybe Delta again ?
GRAU identification seems pretty similar
also another observation:
also I suppose a coincidence
although that word doesn't seem to apply in this space
The Descartes crest comprises of 4 palm branches
The plant named after Copernicus, Copernicia,** is a palm**
and also this
dunno why palms are appearing everywhere
quite the coincidence
oh wait
found something else
but I'm kinda clogging this space up with all my ideas hahaha
lol go for it
with 2 stars
(2 circular eyes of the same shape)
nah wait a minute
"As of 2015, five extrasolar planets (designated 55 Cancri b, c, d, e and f; named Galileo, Brahe, Lipperhey, Janssen and Harriot, respectively) are known to orbit 55 Cancri A."
anyway yeah gonna pull myself out of this rabbit hole before it gets any deeper
Well @pure loom was on the same track with binary stars and Barycenters.
We can still tie it to Euclid i guess ?
sure, the dual circles could definitely also bring itself round to Binary orbits
clues can be reused
like, most recently, the 325
I think there is a specific name for a binary pair where they are so close they share atmospheres.
Stars have atmospheres?
The corona is the upper atmosphere of the Sun.
Also, Iโve been wondering if VM-57 is the initials of the binary pair
Maybe the โVโ is a Gamma?
Yes, I wonder if itโs a brown dwarf? Is that the right term?
Yeah, so it could be a brown dwarf pair that are very close to each other.
Man maybe Rob wants us to get a telescope and find it ourselves ๐คฃ
I had one when I was a teenager. Sold it to by a gaming PC
Joking. I did build a telescope though. Fun times.
I canโt watch this now (at work and finishing lunch), but this might be useful: https://youtu.be/wc5orB-3h3Q
160,000 light years away, the Tarantula Nebula houses many young, hot stars. But the weirdest is probably the "over-contact" binary named VFTS 352 whose two huge, hot surfaces are touching as they dance rapidly around. Whether as a gamma ray mega-burst or twin supernovas leaving binary black holes disrupting space-time, there's no way this ends ...
Umm... Excuse me?
Closest thing I've seen so far to that tower shape
The distances of each planet from the Sun can be described by a unique geometric representation, or Solar Geometry, for each pair of planets, as shown below. Alan Bennettโs original Solar Geometries show more intricate interrelationships between the planets. The geometries below are simplified to illustrate the basic concepts within them. Click ...
Inputting 831 and 110 into Euclid's algorithm outputs a common divisor of 1
or perhaps using Euclidian division
110 divides into 831, 7 times with a remainder of 61
Could be.. Back again at 2061 ? and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2061:_Odyssey_Three which Hank mentioned
2061: Odyssey Three is a science-fiction novel by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke, published in 1987. It is the third book in Clarke's Space Odyssey series. It returns to one of the lead characters of the previous novels, Heywood Floyd, and his adventures from the 2061 return of Halley's Comet to Jupiter's moon Europa.
Clarke had originally ...
The answer to this tier is definitely โยงโฮ ฮผฮฉ
New password joke required ๐
I donโt know why we havenโt examined this more closely
Me neither, yet
Guys, I've found that it's really helpful to just search these keywords in Wikipedia
There are loads of different things which pop up

major focus on Halley's comet here
can't look into it right now but it seems very likely to have some connections
I spent quite a bit of time looking at Halleyโs Comet info, but nothing jumped out
Yeah, only other thing I can find is 2061 Anza the asteroid
I think the novel seems the strongest then
Yeah i spent some time reading as well, but couldn't find much. The book seems pretty awesome though
110D831 is still kinda stumping me
or 110D631
the D is probably short for something
Iโm also wondering if VM-57 is actually 995-57 if the VM is Roman numerals. That would give us 938
but obviously it could very well still be a connection which Rob wanted to Piggyback off of the Van Morrison clue
so we shouldn't completely discount it
I just had to check
Van Morrison seems too obvious to me
This saved me from a rabbit hole. Thanks! ๐
Sputnik appears as a small sentence in his paragraphs
it only caught my eye cause I searched for "57" on his page
I think that's as far as Van Morrison goes
Sputnik-1 is less obvious, so that's what I'm assuming is the clue
Also how many other musicians are writing songs named after physical characteristics who also happen to have a first band named after a satellite launch ๐ญ
Gotta give Rob the credit for even finding that in the first place haha
Yeah, true.
Also we haven't really connected Sputnik directly to anything yet either
Brown-eyed NamaTama when? 
Imagine a NamaTama with hair ๐๐
Maybe both characters being female suggests we should be looking for an historical female?
could be
the Sputnik-1 clue (being the very first satellite) could mean that another satellite is what we're looking for
Cassini? Maybe this was before we got it's literal SATCAT number
yeah that makes sense
Has anyone had any thoughts about what these blocks represent? They look quite Arecibo message-like.
I think we'd also recognize that if we stumbled upon it
These lines, which we thought might have been rover tracks (or similar) could represent a Fresnel lens.
A Fresnel lens ( FRAY-nel, -โ nษl; FREN-el, -โ ษl; or fray-NEL) is a type of composite compact lens developed by the French physicist Augustin-Jean Fresnel (1788โ1827) for use in lighthouses. It has been called "the invention that saved a million ships."The design allows the construction of lenses of large aperture and short focal length without...
Augustin-Jean Fresnel ( FRAY-nel, -โ nษl; FREN-el, -โ ษl; or fray-NEL; French: [oษกystษฬ สษฬ fสษnษl]; 10 May 1788 โ 14 July 1827) was a French civil engineer and physicist whose research in optics led to the almost unanimous acceptance of the wave theory of light, excluding any remnant of Newton's corpuscular theory, from the late 1830sโ until th...
'Brown eyed girl'
'Red sports caracter'
I think colour might be being hinted at here
as part of the password maybe?
I would not be surprised if this answer is a hexcode for a colour called "Descartes Red" or something haha
"Mars looks reddish-brown because it is covered in dust which has a high iron content."
Would be a first clue to mars though.
Brownian Noise aka red noise was a path @tulip matrix mentioned a while ago
A pretty strong Saturn clue in the first character's earring though
yeah, but chances are the third image is gonna be Yellow_Hat_Boy or something haha
and then our brown and red theories get thrown out the window
I mean Ceres also seems just as likely
I thought that got ruled out, but then I wasn't following posts closely that day
All I saw was posts about it being Saturn, not Ceres - did I catch that wrong?
No thatโs right, itโs not as ambiguous or Ceres or Saturn, itโs a clear clue
Thinking about Leith, I think thatโs a clue in the first image to Titan, as itโs a moon with a thick atmosphere and Leith created atmospheric models
Yeah, that's what I thought too
perfection
The other clues are about coordinate systems/spaces and positions of things in the solar system
So what is around Saturn/Titan and what position
I think it was either an old version of the Saturn symbol or an upside down and flipped version of ceres symbol.
then what's insane is that Virginia Leith also starred in the Brain That Wouldn't Die
for the whole Brain in a Vat thread
which I can guarantee is connected
cause there are only 10 names on the Leith surname wikipedia page
and she is one of them
I think that clue is to Descartes
I think you found the coat of arms to easily ๐
Yes, but Rob could have added that BIV clue in to get the double-Leith clue thing - just as a funny clue
well it took a bit of deduction haha
but Descartes?
It could just be a continuation of that line - I could be wrong though. The Titan atmosphere rabbit hole and the BIV one seem pretty desparate

Brain in a vat is the clue, the movie is connected by theme and Leith staring is very big coincidence imho
I'll be honest the only reason I looked into the BrainVat was cause I read through the Methane connection and was like "no way"
if you guys didn't know already, the Wikipedia Disambiguation page is a lifesaver for this ๐ ๐ ๐
Yup
what's the methane connection? (sorry, slowly catching up here after being only partly on board the last few days)
Bovine fart methane
Yeah I missed that to hahaha
wish I was kidding
oh, haha.
so yeah I kinda thought a redux of that clue might be needed
I think the BIV being inside the skull was the biggest giveaway
then Descartes appears in the first paragraph
Ancient Philosopher, always worth looking into
go onto his wiki, scroll down and this appeared
yeah we logged that Rob ๐
The Descartes-Huygens Prize is an yearly scientific prize created in 1995 by the French and the Dutch governments, and attributed to two scientists of international level, a French one chosen by the Koninklijke Nederlandse Akademie van Wetenschappen and a Dutch one chosen by the Acadรฉmie des sciences, to reward their work and their contributions...
the coat of arms represents Descartes, and that's that clue finished
unless there's something else we missed?
Descartes-Huygens - that's a crossover with Titan
I'm not too sure what that ๐ could mean now haha
I mean, if we weren't sure where to look, I guess that's pretty good confirmation... ๐
worth a look
also
I think this might be
what we were looking for
Wiki is asking me to donate. If it gets shut down how else are we going to solve this egg ๐คฃ
Maybe
but yeah I can't be certain at all
also looks like our "chevrons" in the previous picture
but only loosely
Maybe Titan was meant to lead us to Huygens, which could lead to the Descartes-Huygens prize, which leads us to Descartes?
Descartes is the new Mendeleev
it really could go both ways
it does seem like you could link everything towards Descartes
yeah same
I think the big question, as always, is what format the answer is going to be in ๐ญ
hmmm Galactic Coordinate system?
yep thats a thing
The galactic coordinate system is a celestial coordinate system in spherical coordinates, with the Sun as its center, the primary direction aligned with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy, and the fundamental plane parallel to an approximation of the galactic plane but offset to its north. It uses the right-handed convention, meaning...
actually I've seen those
tried the one for the Copernicus Binary system and Descartes star but no luck
I wonder if 110D831 comes into that?
110 days?
Ive been checking 110D orbit planets but couldnt match them with 831
the term itself turns no search results at all
we might have to manipulate it a bit
maybe D = 4
maybe 110 is binary
Idk, there's a few things we can do to it
it does seem like the fact that the first three digits are 1s and 0s could be considered
Did anyone notice the Z / N shape on NamaTama?
ooh I see it
Yeah to me it looks likke it's trying to hide in plain sight as a crease
Maybe it's just a tease at @pure loom for his Zorro idea in the FKramer Tier

Is this another clue? It kind of looks like a very long flag
also some light dots here
Renรฉ Descartes' final philosophical treatise, The Passions of the Soul, was dedicated to Princess Elisabeth of Bohemia. This is her. She is a brown-eyed girl.
Elisabeth of the Palatinate (26 December 1618 โ 11 February 1680), also known as Elisabeth of Bohemia, Princess Elisabeth of the Palatinate, or Princess-Abbess of Herford Abbey, was the eldest daughter of Frederick V, Elector Palatine (who was briefly King of Bohemia), and Elizabeth Stuart. Elisabeth of the Palatinate was a philosopher best know...
"She may have been tutored by Constantijn Huygens"
I read that as tortured
I know, thatโs a pretty cool coincidence, rightโฆ?!

Where did you find this?
The atmosphere of Titan is the dense layer of gases surrounding Titan, the largest moon of Saturn. It is the only thick atmosphere of a natural satellite in the Solar System. Titan's lower atmosphere is primarily composed of nitrogen (94.2%), methane (5.65%), and hydrogen (0.099%). There are trace amounts of other hydrocarbons, such as ethane, d...
@tulip matrix maybe represented by this curved light here
Yes exactly my thoughts
I'm glad you came to the same conclusion
Makes me think that this is a solid connection
I was trying to figure out where that could fit in. Totally forgot just to look at the Titan page
lens flare JJ abrams stylee
I've been thinking about what the (red) Brownian Noise and connecting that to Euclidian Space, which uses vectors. Pulling those things together I came across Brownian Motion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion). Brownian Motion, or pedesis (from Ancient Greek: ฯฮฎฮดฮทฯฮนฯ /pษฬหdษหsis/ "leaping"), is the random motion (with velocity vectors) of particles suspended in a medium (a liquid or a gas). This got me thinking about the atmospheres of Neptune (unsure if Neptune is an actual clue at this point), Saturn, Titan, etc., and how we determine the elements of a given satellite (planet / dwarf planet) by interpreting how those elements bounce or reflect light. It is possible that the password is a translation of a shared atmospheric element of the stellar bodies that we believe we've been given clues for. This would also tie into our space exploration and observation clues.
another element answer back to back. hmm
tier 1a and 1b were both date related
I suppose 1b and 1c could both be element related
The Huygens probe was unable to detect the direction of the Sun during its descent, and although it was able to take images from the surface, the Huygens team likened the process to "taking pictures of an asphalt parking lot at dusk".
Quite hard on themselves haha
sorry i meant that reaction from Rob 
๐ eyes is clue solved
"Here we NamaTamaGooooooooooooooo!"
oh haha
no worries
Or maybe "you're getting warmer"
๐ Eyes is also "yes thats a clue"
Yeah, eggsactly
ok gn all
good night 
Oh, OK. Thanks.
"Like the "114 102 116 114". That HAS to mean anything, and we don't have anything good for that so far"
gn
Thanks!
4 numbers could be vector coordinates.
Decimal to text = rftr
That msg was referring to the previous EE hunt though : )
So what does the โZโ sticker mean ๐ค
Ah, that's right
looks familiar
like a logo of some sort
lol If this ends up being Zorro related I'll give you five dollars
Oh... Sad face.
Thanks for reminding
@timid solstice what was the link between O=0=o=0 and Saturns moons?
Layers of atmosphere, image from the Cassini spacecraft
From the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory:
Experiments at Berkeley Lab have helped scientists to zero in on a low-temperature chemical mechanism that may help to explain the complex molecular compounds that make up the nitrogen-rich haze layer surrounding Titan, Saturnโs largest moon.
https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2018/10/08/new-clues-chemistry-mystery-titans-atmospheric-haze/
I tried "Purple Haze" as a password. That would have been sweet.
That would have been groovy, man

They just looked like little moons to me ๐ฅน
Fair enough! And I guess the = are Saturn's rings
Something like that
But I think this is a Euclid clue
And ties into the overlapping circles
I was so hoping it was gonna be
aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu
A fiducial marker or fiducial is an object placed in the field of view of an imaging system that appears in the image produced, for use as a point of reference or a measure. It may be either something placed into or on the imaging subject, or a mark or set of marks in the reticle of an optical instrument.
The crash test thingy is a fiducial marker
Oh, back to the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secchi_disk
The Secchi disk (or Secchi disc), as created in 1865 by Angelo Secchi, is a plain white, circular disk 30 cm (12 in) in diameter used to measure water transparency or turbidity in bodies of water. The disc is mounted on a pole or line, and lowered slowly down in the water. The depth at which the disk is no longer visible is taken as a measure of...
yiss
Did we know that the guy that made the Secchi disks was a asttronomer
Yes we did nvm
Cool. Anyone want a beer while we wait for Serpenger to put the answer in? 
Oh
Angelo Secchi is the reason for the Martian people living in channels on Mars
Damn you Secchi
The atomic number or nuclear charge number (symbol Z). Just something interesting that I came accross.
Looking at his history is kinda funny
In 1853, under his direction, the crumbling observatory was relocated to a new facility on top of the Sant'Ignazio Church (the chapel of the college).
Gerard Peter Kuiper (English: ; Dutch pronunciation: [หkลypษr]; born Gerrit Pieter Kuiper; 7 December 1905 โ 23 December 1973) was a Dutch astronomer, planetary scientist, selenographer, author and professor. He is the eponymous namesake of the Kuiper belt.
Kuiper is considered by many to be the father of modern planetary science.
Gerard Kuiper was the first to observe Titan's methane atmosphere using spectroscopy
He also has the Kuiper Belt named after him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt
The Kuiper belt () is a circumstellar disc in the outer Solar System, extending from the orbit of Neptune at 30 astronomical units (AU) to approximately 50 AU from the Sun. It is similar to the asteroid belt, but is far largerโ20 times as wide and 20โ200 times as massive. Like the asteroid belt, it consists mainly of small bodies or remnants fro...
Whoa - Carl Sagan was a student of his.
Secchi seems really connected
These scientists and their inter welding
He definitely made his mark 
Do we reckon Secchi was there to point us towards Copernicus?
or maybe the Copernicus Binary star?
I think that if the double circle on the gun was intentional, then the binary star is definitely what it would be pointing towards
Just being hopeful here, but perhaps Copernicus is our Mendeleev
and perhaps the Star is our Mendelevium
It's hard to imagine a scientist in the 1800s collecting data on 10k binary stars.
He wasnโt spending any time on Discord! 
No, not yet
but our current clues seem to be coming together pretty well
apart from that pesky 110D831
Titan passing in front of the binary star system named NV0435215+200905 - dammit, when I found this I really thought it was going to be the password
The video does look cool though: https://www.reddit.com/r/Astronomy/comments/5nxyy3/titan_lenses_a_passing_binary_star/
There is going to be a binary star system named after a species of panda and we are all going to hate ourselves.
Here's a reminder for some of the other unsolved clues.
Thanks for posting this
Maybe the NamaTama โZโ is a W with the left upright going between NamaTamaโs eyes.
Ah yep! I can see that
I wonder if NamaTama being next to / overlapping the Secchi disk means anything.
Is the 4:8 the rule of thirds, phi grid lines or Euclidโs pythagorus theorem proof?
The phi grid/fibonachi doesn't really line up with the mic pattern, which i think that theory came from ?
Interesting you called the tower โ13 story stackโ
Does it represent a 13 book stack?
Does the rule of 3rds fit better?
Could this have something to do with wavelengths? I was reading about the red/blue shift and how that happens because wavelengths are extended or contracted when we are observing extraterrestrial bodies.
I've got myself on this rabbit hole of thinking that this password has to do with the way we use light to observe space and determine the atmospheric makeup of stellar objects.
Atmosphere = Elements = Space (Haha)
Iโm thinking we need to move away from Cecil Leith and stick with Virginia Leithโฆ like @sharp flame said go with your gut
Meaning the atmospheric models / atmosphere link is out really
Nah not really
I mean those lines are not thirds
but I think the golden ratio fits this better
Ah yeah sorry that was the phi grid.
Rule of thirds does line up
those lines are the golden ration, its called a phi grid, so golden ratio doesnโt really fit
I think Fibonacci has a very real chance though
they're named after Italian mathematician Leonardo of Pisa
Kepler also contributes to the Fibonacci sequence stuff
And this Mathematician Pingala
living around possibly 325 BC too
who is credited with the first ever use of binary numbers
and the binary numeral system
(star reference..?)
yeah it still symbolises it for sure, just proportionately doesnt fit
Fibonacci and Euclid are really connected
Xth
I see it now
10th?
oooh ๐๏ธ
Okay I'm certain that says 10th
100% how the fuck did no one see th lol
yeah in hindsight it's really clear hahaha
Thats all I can see now
this is a very specific clue
Fibonacci
10th in the sequence?
Sputnik 1 was the first satellite ever
10th satellite?
Maybe planet X, the hidden 10th planet?
"There is no known Planet X or 10th planet in our solar system. Scientists have been looking for about a hundred years. It was believed that such a planet was required to explain the orbital characteristics of the outer planets Uranus and Neptune."
Or maybe Eris, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)
Eris (minor-planet designation 136199 Eris) is the most massive and second-largest known dwarf planet in the Solar System. It is a trans-Neptunian object (TNO) in the scattered disk and has a high-eccentricity orbit. Eris was discovered in January 2005 by a Palomar Observatoryโbased team led by Mike Brown and verified later that year. In Septemb...
10th month ?
Euclid's 10th class: Euclid's Division Lemma
Euclid's Elements book 10
A Pythagorean triple consists of three positive integers a, b, and c, such that a2 + b2 = c2. Such a triple is commonly written (a, b, c), and a well-known example is (3, 4, 5). If (a, b, c) is a Pythagorean triple, then so is (ka, kb, kc) for any positive integer k. A primitive Pythagorean triple is one in which a, b and c are coprime (that is,...
If I can get access I'm going to ask openai ChatGPT for the answer to the tier: https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/
Weโve trained a model called ChatGPT which interacts in a conversational way. The dialogue format makes it possible for ChatGPT to answer followup questions, admit its mistakes, challenge incorrect premises, and reject inappropriate requests. ChatGPT is a sibling model to InstructGPT, which is trained to follow an instruction in
Janus is the 10th moon of Saturn. The temple of Janus shown on a coin also looks a little like the mic lines diagram. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_(moon)
In ancient Roman religion and myth, Janus ( JAY-nษs; Latin: Ianvs [หiฬฏaหnสs]) is the god of beginnings, gates, transitions, time, duality, doorways, passages, frames, and endings. He is usually depicted as having two faces. The month of January is named for Janus (Ianuarius). According to ancient Roman farmers' almanacs, Juno was mistaken as the...
Hereโs the temple depicted on a coin
The mic lines diagram looks very specific though.
Janus... in Goldeneye?
Also, I wondered if 110D831 was just 110.831 with the D standing for decimal point, but I havenโt found any strong leads from it yet
My brain just had a factory reset watching that haha
More music box noises 
im confused are you guys solving an easter egg or solving a scientific study ๐
I don't know either 

checks pocket
Galileo:
This is incredible, did you see the simulated landing? It didnโt have these amazing sounds!
I haven't seen that
I imagine it's not quite as interesting lol
bahahah
I think you were right!
And this one too! Which I'm kicking myself for not seeing
(Xth/10th that is)
Book 10 proves the irrationality of the square roots of non-square integers (e.g. {\displaystyle {\sqrt {2}}}{\sqrt {2}}) and classifies the square roots of incommensurable lines into thirteen disjoint categories. Euclid here introduces the term "irrational", which has a different meaning than the modern concept of irrational numbers. He also gives a formula to produce Pythagorean triples.
lol I know. Though to be clear he just reacted to that the X thing is supposed to be read as '10th' not that the clue is referring to the 10th book
Saturnโs 10th moon, officially named Janus in 1983, was the first satellite of the ringed planet discovered in the 20th century. It shares an orbit with the moon Epimetheus
Janus is a binary Moon, in a way, in that it shares an orbit with Epimetheus
That's interesting!
It also just might be another clue referring to Titan seeing as "Titan is the tenth-largest object in the solar system"
Good spotting!
This is probably a longshot but could this be the answear to the O0o0 clue ?
I would be more convinced if Phoebe was more oval
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about new updates from Titan and the upcoming NASA Dragonfly mission
Links:...
Quite a good summary video about Titan
@tulip matrix this symbol could be a depiction of Saturn rising over the horizon of Titan. Note that the bottom-right edge of the symbol is obscured
(I've added notes to the padlet alongside your empty set interpretation)
"Saturn Rising" is a short story by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke, first published in March 1961 in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction. It was included in Tales of Ten Worlds, a collection of stories by Clarke first published in 1962. It has been translated into French, German, Italian and Croatian. The story imagines the developme...
This is interesting as it includes both Huygens probe and interference, but I can't see where the rabbit hole could go to from here: The postimpact survival of the Huygens radio link has permitted a bonus bistatic radio experiment with uniquely constrained geometry. The fading pattern, physically interpreted as a multipath interference, contains information on the geometry of the probe and on the physical properties (particularly roughness) of an essentially otherwise unobserved part of Titan's surface in the vicinity of the Huygens landing site.
A diagram explaining it
NamaTama with a ring around him when?
There we go
Cassini mentioned as part of a survey of the Paris Meridian arc
The Paris meridian is a meridian line running through the Paris Observatory in Paris, France โ now longitude 2ยฐ20โฒ14.02500โณ East. It was a long-standing rival to the Greenwich meridian as the prime meridian of the world. The "Paris meridian arc" or "French meridian arc" (French: la Mรฉridienne de France) is the name of the meridian arc measured a...
This is the Lambton mentioned in the line with the 110.631: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lambton
Lieutenant-Colonel William Lambton, FRS (c. 1753 โ 20 or 26 January 1823) was a British soldier, surveyor, and geographer who began a triangulation survey in 1800-1802 that was later called the Great Trigonometrical Survey of India. His initial survey was to measure the length of a degree of an arc of the meridian so as to establish the shape of...
Maybe the interference lines thing is to show parallel lines, like the Paris Meridian Line and Greenwich Meridian? 
Brown eyed girl. Red Caracterโฆ Green Witch?
Greenwich is not the password (nor is greenwitch)
Except lines of longitude arenโt parallelโฆ nevermind.
I can smell that a Rob image is imminent.. ๐
you didn't know???
DNB FRIDAY TIME
man I wish I could lose track of time like that
I have end-of-week tasks at work too so I actually can't lose track of time like that either
still happens
LOL
I'm just counting down the hours until a new image ๐ถ๐
831
Every fiber of my being says 6
however, every fiber of my being has been wrong a lot
to the asteroid yeah
don't think it's related to the 110D
unless you can connect them by naming
I tried to identify the asteroid with the 110 but to no avail
I wonder if by โ(831โฅ๏ธ)โ the brackets meant โnegate the 831โ like an accountant shows negative numbers in brackets? Itโs definitely a 6 when you look closely at it.
could be the case
but there's a heart with it too
plus Stateira is connected by the 404
If you look at the left side of the 6/8 it doesn't have any indentation like an 8 does
maybe it's both
I think it's a 6 for sure
I also think that looking for Asteroids which Max Wolf discovered in Heidelberg might be wasting my time
his name appears 212 times within the first 999 asteroids
and all of those discoveries were at Heidelberg
oh my god
I totally missed this
Can't wait ๐
Hi.!
Perhaps it's time for another wallpaper, or maybe you want some more time observe the previous two.?
T-59m
I think he's implying that we're close
like very close
maybe
I'm not sure
or that we haven't observed the previous 2 before
enough
yes
or maybe it's not quite finished yet ๐
I'm at work ๐ฆ
๐
Did Rob just robbed me?
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