easter-eggs

[timid solstice]

still doesnt quite line up with the others

[neon stream]

Thanks for trying still, I appreciate it 😃

I guess it would make sense for the answer to be that infrared lens

[pure loom]

Maybe we should put our monitors under a black light

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-blue-digibyte-dgb-crypto-gif-18286785

[neon stream]

Hmmm I got goodish news

[pure loom]

👀

[neon stream]

Our prayers to SR have been answered

We have to figure out what "114 102 116 114" means

I know you are reading this SR, thanks! ... ._.

[pure loom]

Maybe break it into pairs of two digit numbers?

[tulip matrix]

I actually attempted to view the first few images through my cameras night time mode just in case

[pure loom]

Desperate times call for desperate measures

[tulip matrix]

in octal those numbers give me LBNL
In decimal they give me rftr

[neon stream]

I have no idea what I'm looking at, it's a genetic map info thing, but it just looks like the Hollywood version of "hacking"

[neon stream]

(I doubt that leads to the answer, but I found it weird 😂 )

[neon stream]

I was thinking of doing that and tapcode, until I saw the 6 😅

What else can it be...? 🤔

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-think-gif-5059908

[tulip matrix]

Man I was gonna say a long time ago that the aglets on the shoelace might be tolomeres but all my DNA related suggestions haven't gained any traction

but now I'm back down that path

[neon stream]

I left a NN training for one of my homeworks, and I'm going for a walk, hopefully I come back with ideas 😂

[timid solstice]

On mobile the candles are the full emoji haha, the chat does look a bit cult ish

[timid solstice]

I also have some good news

[neon stream]

lol I just saw that, it does look weird. But whatever, we are not a cult, and our prayers get answered by SR, so we are good 😂

[neon stream]

Niiiiice, so it would mean that it is "92+1", interesting 🤔

[neon stream]

I came back with no ideas, btw 😂

[neon stream]

Imagine the answer just being 93 😂

Rob: "we have to make it a bit easier for them"

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gtfo-get-out-of-here-gif-6207127

Element 92 + element 1? Uranium hydride

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_hydride

Doesn’t seem too fruitful

[neon stream]

Good thinking though

[pure loom]

I’m trying to think of what other things can be numbered up to at least 92 and you can combine them

Don’t say “numbers”

[neon stream]

Wrong ideas we have, but that goes waaaaay past 92

[pure loom]

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Psalm 92:1
New International Version
Psalm 92[a]
A psalm. A song. For the Sabbath day.

1 It is good to praise the Lord
and make music(A) to your name,(B) O Most High,(C)

But that could have been shown as 92:1

[neon stream]

I was thinking that maybe it could be a way to represent a variation of Uranium, like an ion or an isotope, but I don't see anything useful

Maybe Rob just has a radio station set up in Stockholm, 92.1, and at 1:14am, 1:02am, 1:16am and 1:14pm he broadcasts the answer 😛

92.1 Rob FM

lol there's actually a 92.1 Bob FM 😂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBBO-FM

[tawny mural]

I may have figured out 114 102 116 114

https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=1994Obs...114..102G&db_key=AST&page_ind=0&plate_select=NO&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_GIF&classic=YES

Vol 114, page 102, paper 116?

also the planet format of starting with 8 followed by 4 digits makes me think that "680384" may refer to minor planet 80384

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets:_80001–81000

[hidden nacelle]

Kitt Peak is a Observatory

[neon stream]

Could be. How did you get to that book? 🤔

[neon stream]

Hmmm I don't see how the missing 6 from the planet fits

[neon stream]

I find it funny that the site of that planet [planet 80484] is called "Socorro", that means "Help" in Spanish, which is what we currently need 😂

[tawny mural]

lol yeah the number might be a stretch, but the contents of the paper are so relevant to other clues that I hope it's right

I found it by looking up the number on google scholar - it's like the 7th result

[hidden nacelle]

was there a number clue with the number 719?

[neon stream]

I typed 80484 🤦🏻‍♂️

[hidden nacelle]

im wondering if we came across the number 719 in any artwork cause theres an asteroid called ''719 Albert''

[neon stream]

hmmm how did you get to "Albert"?

[hidden nacelle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacewatch

[pure loom]

Maybe the 92 means U-238 and the +1 means the number we’re working with is actually 239, but nothing to do with Uranium?

Like 239 is the clue

Oh, wait. There is a U-239 isotope

Uranium-239 is an isotope of uranium. It is usually produced by exposing 238U to neutron radiation in a nuclear reactor. 239U has a half-life of about 23.45 minutes and decays into neptunium-239 through beta decay, with a total decay energy of about 1.29 MeV.[23] The most common gamma decay at 74.660 keV accounts for the difference in the two major channels of beta emission energy, at 1.28 and 1.21 MeV.[24]

239Np further decays to plutonium-239 also through beta decay (239Np has a half-life of about 2.356 days), in a second important step that ultimately produces fissile 239Pu (used in weapons and for nuclear power), from 238U in reactors.

And there is this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-239

[neon stream]

Do we have any connection with the color yellow? Because in the town... where I was born... lived a man... who sailed to sea... and he told us of his life... in the land... of submarines 😛

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/sean-connery-hunt-for-red-october-conclusions-wrong-your-conclusions-were-all-wrong-gif-24654679

[timid solstice]

I said “ the + 1 not so good ” and that’s what he thumbed up I’m guessing .

[sharp flame]

114 102 116 114

I reckon there's some sort of connection that we can make with this without doing too much digging

[slender lodge]

i reckon devoncrossing

jkjk

[sharp flame]

' FNLF ' for periodic table

' rftr ' for ASCII

have we found any alternatives for the coin/medal?

apart from Mendeleev?

rftr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_for_the_Rainbow

rainbow -- ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Foundation_for_Technological_Development

the only two I could find

[boreal trench]

Yeah I saw that as well, no idea how that helps tho since we already have so many rainbow clues already

[sharp flame]

I mean maybe rainbow is where we should be looking

[boreal trench]

I found it also could be LBNL if you use octal, 'lawrence berkeley national laboratory' is the only thing could find relating to those letters.

[neon stream]

... ._.

Elements discovered by Berkeley Lab physicists include astatine, neptunium, plutonium, americium, curium, berkelium, californium, einsteinium, fermium, mendelevium, nobelium, lawrencium, dubnium, and seaborgium

[mortal ivy]

This tier drained me 😦 Was so happy and positive in the first and second image, but all the clues have amounted to nothing and all the later clues have just stirred it up even more 🤷

[neon stream]

It makes sense, we've been solving these for a while with no rest in between. But we're almost there! You can rest during the next tier!

118...

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory was originally a branch of Berkeley Lab (LBNL)

[neon stream]

You should add that to the Padlet

[sharp flame]

Oooh so we should be looking at Oganesson

[neon stream]

I think that the most difficult thing about this tier is that we don't seem to have a clear baseline, like Frank Kramer was for the previous one 😂

[neon stream]

I want to say that the baseline for this one is spectroscopy, but... it's not 100% clear

[sharp flame]

I think the evidence in sequential images are supposed to confirm what the clues in the first image are supposed to mean

[neon stream]

Angstrom seems to be used to describe the resolution of microscopes, but I don't see how that helps us 😂

[timid solstice]

we mentioned what if the clue: 10-31 was when we were close to the answer, you know what was first mentioned then...

[neon stream]

hmmm could be 🤔

[tulip matrix]

Back to the Og

[timid solstice]

hes on the padlet twice now

[tulip matrix]

At this point I know that guy better than his own wife

[tender leaf]

Hello 🙂 any updates? I haven't been active in the last few days

[timid solstice]

not many, this is the latest confirmation;

SMG body strap clip clue: 114 102 116 114 = LBNL Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory where Victor Ninov faked finding element 118

[mortal ivy]

That Ninov boy, such a rascal

[pure loom]

This might be useful to consider: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_elements,_materials,_isotopes_and_subatomic_particles

[neon stream]

"Newton is traditionally regarded as the founder of spectroscopy", not another rabbit hole please 😭

[neon stream]

And "opticks" is not the password 😂

[pure loom]

This has increased the gravity of the situation

[tulip matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-creepy-gif-10908693

[pure loom]

#idontwanttoknowwhatyousearchedfortofindthis

Maybe we’re supposed to make an element up? My money is on Robidium

Thankfully autocorrect didn’t change that to Rob idiot

[tulip matrix]

Copium

A superheavy element

[pure loom]

Element_You_Need when?

[neon stream]

"1s2s2p3s3p3d4s4p4d5s5p4f5d6s6p5f6d7s7p", the electron configuration of Oganesson written with just the name of the subshells, like one of the clues would point to, is not the answer... 😂

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a fifth image... 😅

I think at that point we should just let Rob know that we've known the answer since the very first image...

[mortal ivy]

Something just doesn't add up nice between image 1/2 and 3/4 imo 😦

[neon stream]

Yeah, it's difficult to confirm a connecting theme, which makes Googling more difficult 😂

The fun thing is, once we solve it, we'll see all the connections and how "obvious" they were 😅

[neon stream]

I'm looking at the Padlet of the previous tier, and I guess those music clues weren't that connected either 😅

[mortal ivy]

Well previous tiers never felt very connected, but this one seemed so coherent in the first two images and then completely shattered in the later haha

[neon stream]

I wonder if the next tier will be a new sponsor, that'd be cool

[neon stream]

@cedar owl we have a secret mission for you, but don't tell Rob... we need you to take a picture of his board, where the Tier 1C clues are, so we have a better idea of how these things connect. Thanks in advance! 😇

[fallen jasper]

Dusty sneaking into Rob's office:

https://tenor.com/view/swigidy-swooty-sneak-sneaking-sneaking-by-traffic-gif-15057631

[cedar owl]

https://tenor.com/view/iceage-nothanks-gif-9927583

[vital cove]

Okay so Rob is dangerous

Could that be a clue

[neon stream]

😂

[fallen jasper]

Rob has the room booby trapped. If anyone besides him tries to get in it sets off a firebomb and destroys all the evidence and clues.

[neon stream]

I figured out, the clue! Given that they are from Sweden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFNRh26TPmM

[proud minnow]

Brilliant song… ._.

[neon stream]

Brilliant band, thanks for Roxette Sweden!

[quiet silo]

How goes the easter egg hunt friends?

[neon stream]

We know that we know nothing 😛

[quiet silo]

Ahh the sweet smell of nonintentional ignorance in the morning. I saw one of you guys was digging in a genetic map template. That must have been a hell of a rabbit hole to follow.

I wanna help more but the semester is closing out and my job's work load spikes right around this time. After this week I hope I can help put another brain that knows nothing into the think tank lol.

[mortal ivy]

I would suggest waiting until T1D before jumping back in 😅😂

[tulip matrix]

[low summit]

what in the world is going on here lul

what is this SR cult

appreciate your work guys this is mindblowing

[mortal ivy]

... ._. = SR = Saint Rob

[low summit]

embark employs saints huh?

cool

[mortal ivy]

Nah, a Saint created Embark

[low summit]

and how can this easter egg hunt be so complex

scrolled up a bit and uhh

have a few questions

[mortal ivy]

It's not, it's just us missing the answer

Whenever we eventually get it, it's gonna be "oh... ok 🥹 "

[low summit]

tho its nice to see the process

yall searching everywhere

[neon stream]

Agian: It's not a cult, we are just lost hunters in search for guidance from Saint Rob, Patron Saint of Easter Egg hunters and Lost Time 😂

So far SR has been answering our prayers, so it works 😛

[low summit]

THE FINALS Egg Hunt lore summarized

[mortal ivy]

(I'm in a cult, even if the others aren't)

[low summit]

mysterious

[mortal ivy]

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[low summit]

is the pinned docx file from early october still relevant?

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

[sharp flame]

I'm pretty busy for the next few days, but I can't wait to dive back into this stuff. Hope you guys are doing okay!

[low summit]

finalist check

hi:)

[tulip matrix]

Pls Enjoy this adorable scientist man talk about Og 118 https://youtu.be/5YQwFjJ9GX4

[sharp flame]

I feel super vindicated that my original Oganesson hunch was correct

but I also dug into it for a while and found nothing

so there must be something I was missing

[timid solstice]

Yes it’s up to date https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLzGtj2w2elVkqEdPV6NgqRiszNAxnwIANXHK-Pa1Bk/edit?usp=sharing

@mortal ivy I’m loving your pfp

[sharp flame]

I'm gonna try do some digging actually

[low summit]

tyy

[sharp flame]

is the consensus that this coin is Mendeleev?

[timid solstice]

I think so, and it points to the periodic table

[mortal ivy]

Ty ty, I made it myself, kinda ☺️

[sharp flame]

looks great!

[neon stream]

It looks like it, but I think it's better if we take it as a "maybe"

(Because the match is not as obvious as the one we got for the Iris Sibirica)

[slender lodge]

SR cult is growing

[mortal ivy]

Maybe they distorted the image after I caught them red handed with the iris haha

[neon stream]

I tried recreating the image a bit, I guess it could be

[mortal ivy]

I've looked at a fair share of gold coins the last week and I've yet to see something closer to it at least

[sharp flame]

I gotta say the hairstyle is pretty spot on

exact details could line up but I can't be certain

but along with the text on the rim, it really does look like the same thing

[solar glade]

busy with work and PTO

glhf hunters

[south wyvern]

The more time passes the more i start to think it might actually be the one

[neon stream]

I've been trying to find a match... no luck. I share it here in case one of you sees something

https://personal.psu.edu/a0j/periodic4.html
http://umop.net/spectra/

[sharp flame]

I think there's gotta be a year, or name, or value that lines up between the Spectroscopy thread and Oganesson

[sharp flame]

^^^^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Light_Source

too much science for me to sift through

[neon stream]

I tried a few of those things and I couldn't find anything. The most promising finding was "oåm", but sadly that wasn't the password 😂

Hopefully one of you finds a connection

[neon stream]

Berkeley + Angstrom + Lithium = oåm:

https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/MSD-1-Ang-microscope.html

[pure loom]

The triangular-looking gap under his chin isn’t there at all. If it’s supposed to be the same coin then it’s more an “inspired by” thing rather than the actual coin being used for the image.

[sharp flame]

On the medal there are three points of high brightness

forehead, hair, and collar

you can line it up based on that

[pure loom]

The size and shape are different. It’s definitely not the same image. However, it could be Rob’s interpretation of the same coin.

[sharp flame]

Oh hey Rob 👋

[neon stream]

Yeah, it's a bit hard to tell, but as Giriko said earlier, it's the closest thing we have

[sharp flame]

from what I can tell, the image is cropped and zoomed in so that the bottom 15% is gone

[sharp flame]

I don't wanna say it's confirmation... but...

[neon stream]

There were others that came up with a periodic table before Mendeleev, I figured either of those could be the "Og", but none were the password 😂

[neon stream]

Yeah, I guess we could take that as confirmation. If not, Rob: Speak now or forever hold your peace 😂

"...and lead us not into rabbit holes..." 😂

🙏🏻

[sharp flame]

Better?

[proud minnow]

I will never hold my peace, hehe

[tulip matrix]

[sharp flame]

I gotta sleep soon, but I feel like we're real close to the answer

all our clues line up one way or the other

but... not as a whole

[tulip matrix]

Yes I've thought that for a couple weeks now

[sharp flame]

there's gotta be one number/year/thing which links the two that we haven't found

[neon stream]

Has anyone tried the Byzantine Empire yet?

[sharp flame]

gonna hop back on this in a day or two, hopefully put this thing to bed finally

[latent peak]

Where can we test the password btw ?

[neon stream]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-c

All the tiers of this level are here: https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2 , we are currently on Tier 1c

[latent peak]

Thank you!

[neon stream]

np!

[neon stream]

We also have a Padlet with the current progress, as well as a Doc with detailed explanation of the whole hunt

Padlet: https://padlet.com/JusticeCharity/vdxdc9hmjexfjsa7
Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLzGtj2w2elVkqEdPV6NgqRiszNAxnwIANXHK-Pa1Bk/edit?usp=sharing

[latent peak]

Wow, this is amazing!

[pure loom]

Yeah, I think we should just assume it is and push down that path. There’s nothing to lose for it, but time, and we’re well used to that already

[slender lodge]

bro im telling ya

on god we bussin

[mortal ivy]

frfr

[unkempt crypt]

Idk man.. ignoring the forehead situation seems rather counterproductive

[boreal trench]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_(crater) the founder of LBNL has a crater

[pure loom]

The thing is, we’re basically at a standstill anyway. Rob may have doctored the coin in the image to make it a bit ambiguous - the forehead difference could just be a ‘glint’ on the image coin.

[cedar owl]

This egg hunt is flatlining! Someone call a medical doctor!

[proud minnow]

...or at least a registered nurse..!

[pure loom]

A bystander with aspirin, even?

The lines on the denim, which I thought looked like a seismograph drum, do look a bit like an ECG printout, of a very dead patient.

[mortal ivy]

Thank you for you hints Dusty and Rob, but I have yet to encounter a registered nurse through my wikipedia rabbit holes 😕

Hmm, but Carl von Linné was a physician

[unkempt crypt]

I don’t think so because there is a shadow too! There are a lot of greek gods with that am profile

Poseidon has a lot of similarities.

[unkempt crypt]

Really anyone with first aid training

[neon stream]

I hope this is an actual clue, and not their way of saying the image was doctored 😂

[pure loom]

Oh, now you’ve pointed it out, it probably was their way of saying that.

Having said that, I have learned that Uppsala University wasn’t only home to Carl Linnaeus but also Emmy Rappe, who was Sweden’s first registered nurse. She was taught by the OG nurse, Florence Nightingale.

[neon stream]

Yeah, I'm not sure. I guess it could be either

[neon stream]

Interesting 🤔

[vital cove]

the color from the 680384 color hex is indigo, the color that was absent from the refracted light of the dark side of the moon album cover, and a color that is considered to not exist in spectroscopy/modern color science. mendeleev has a crater named after him on the far side of the moon, right next to which is this crater: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuster_(crater)

named after this man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schuster#:~:text=Sir Franz Arthur Friedrich Schuster,integral is named after him.

a spectroscopist

Idk where to go from there but maybe you smart guys can do something with this

Oh yeah October 31st is when someone first pointed out the absence of indigo from the pink Floyd album cover light beam

(the 10-31 thing)

[vital cove]

That crater has satellite craters

Identified by letters

Wasn't one of the clues like an orbit symbol?

[neon stream]

Good finds!

[neon stream]

Yeah

[neon stream]

If one of those would have been L, I think that would have been the answer

[vital cove]

Maybe wrong crater but right idea?

You guys already looked into ancient indigo dye right?

[neon stream]

(I'm not convinced about the hex indigo part, but that's probably because there are like 10 colors in my vocabulary 😂 )

[neon stream]

I don't think so 🤔

[vital cove]

Ancient indigo was blue, not purplish

[neon stream]

@vital cove make sure to add these things into the Padlet 👍🏻

[vital cove]

The Schuster crater was known as crater 218 before it was named. Trying to tie the number 218 to the periodic table hints leads to theoretical element 218, Biunoctium (Buo). neither biunoctium nor buo is the password

[vital cove]

Uhhh idk how that thing works

[fallen jasper]

If you double click on the background it'll make a post there

It's fairly easy to figure out from there.

You connect two posts by clicking the three dots on the top right of a post and connecting it to the new post you made.

[vital cove]

I haven't even figured out how to navigate that thing properly, I'm a boomer leave me alone aaahh

I'll fiddle with it later

[neon stream]

I'd recommend creating an account first, so you can edit the posts later

[vital cove]

I feel like I'm starting to get a vision for the clues in this tier though

[neon stream]

You'd be the first 😂

[vital cove]

Well mostly the lunar crater stuff, it feels thematically appropriate as a follow-up from the asteroid/meteorite theme from last time

Now we just have to... find out how all the clues go together. You know, ezpz

Far side of the moon, which has craters and features named after scientists involved in the periodic table, and also spectroscopy, which is related to colour science and also studied at that Berkeley lab thing... Periodic table elements that share a numbering system with unnnamed lunar craters... It is all related somehow

[neon stream]

@vital cove I think you are on mobile, so I'd also recommend the desktop version. Padlet on mobile is not that good 😅

[sharp flame]

In theme, sure, but I think they want us to stumble across the password two separate times

One for each clue thread

[sweet narwhal]

This looks like a dope Easter egg hunt but my brain is to smooth to come up with where to start

[sharp flame]

I think the problem now is finding where to end

[neon stream]

You can take a look at the Padlet, and see what we've found so far

[sweet narwhal]

Is the link in the pins?

[neon stream]

Padlet: https://padlet.com/JusticeCharity/vdxdc9hmjexfjsa7

[neon stream]

Yeah

[sweet narwhal]

Thanks!

[neon stream]

You can also take a look at the Doc, to see how previous tiers/levels worked

Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLzGtj2w2elVkqEdPV6NgqRiszNAxnwIANXHK-Pa1Bk/edit?usp=sharing

[sweet narwhal]

Alr

[neon stream]

The Padlets for previous tiers are pinned as well

[sweet narwhal]

Ok

[fallen jasper]

Also in the padlets themselves it links back to the previous ones

[pure loom]

One day, a long way into the future, the padlets will be stumbled upon and a paper written about the manifestation of insanity.

[mortal ivy]

We are not trying the same thing over and over..... yet

[neon stream]

I'm sorry Rob and Dusty that it's taking us so long 😭

I guess it might be an actual clue after all, and not just their way of saying the image was doctored 😅

[zenith crown]

what if

we get the password

[neon stream]

And I'd take this as Rob saying "Yes, it IS my interpretation of that coin, now please solve it I'm going insane, HOW CAN IT BE TAKING YOU SO LONG?" or something like that....

[neon stream]

Nahhhh, that'd mean no more concept art, no more NamaTama images, and a sane Rob. We need Rob with a bit of insanity so he can get great ideas for Embark's games. So lets keep pretending that we haven't figured it out yet 😛

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-will-ferrell-anchorman-gif-5016662

[zenith crown]

ahh true true, good plan

[pure loom]

I think we can probably assume now that the 118 points to the periodic table as a whole, as does Dmitri Mendeleev. And the 92+1(?) possibly to Neptunium, or elements above Uranium.

[pure loom]

Wait - is "Registered Nurse" a clue for the element Radon (Rn)??

There are Radon gas emissions on the Moon

https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2009.465#:~:text=NASA's Apollo missions and the,decay below the Moon's surface.

Gas eruptions would be a cool in-game feature, just sayin

From the Radon Wikipedia page" In 1971, Apollo 15 passed 110 km (68 mi) above the Aristarchus plateau on the Moon, and detected a significant rise in alpha particles thought to be caused by the decay of 222Rn. The presence of 222Rn has been inferred later from data obtained from the Lunar Prospector alpha particle spectrometer.[86]

This is also the same location as this: In 1911, Professor Robert W. Wood used ultraviolet photography to take images of the crater area. He discovered the plateau had an anomalous appearance in the ultraviolet, and an area to the north appeared to give indications of a sulfur deposit.[6] This colorful area is sometimes referred to as "Wood's Spot", an alternative name for the Aristarchus plateau. Clementine image of Aristarchus and surroundings mapped onto simulated topography. NASA photo. Spectra taken of this crater during the Clementine mission were used to perform mineral mapping.[2] The data indicated that the central peak is a type of rock called anorthosite, which is a slow-cooling form of igneous rock composed of plagioclase feldspar. By contrast the outer wall is troctolite, a rock composed of equal parts plagioclase and olivine. The Aristarchus region was part of a Hubble Space Telescope study in 2005 that was investigating the presence of oxygen-rich glassy soils in the form of the mineral ilmenite. Baseline measurements were made of the Apollo 15 and Apollo 17 landing sites, where the chemistry is known, and these were compared to Aristarchus. The Hubble Advanced Camera for Surveys was used to photograph the crater in visual and ultraviolet light. The crater was determined to have especially rich concentrations of ilmenite, a titanium oxide mineral that could potentially be used in the future by a lunar settlement for extracting oxygen.[7]

The Aristarchus region on the Moon mentioned above is named after Greek astronomer and mathematician Aristarchus of Samos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos

This is a diagram of his on the relatives sizes of the Earth, Moon and Sun.

It could relate to this clue showing an angle:

More on Radon outgassing on the Moon: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2005JE002433

[neon stream]

Not sure about this, honestly. It's probably one of those things we'll understand once we know the answer 😂

[pure loom]

True - but it's a possibility. Also, I think there is definitely a reason why Rob chose to use the phrase "registered nurse" - he could have just said "nurse"

Rn for Radon is one option

[neon stream]

Yeah, same with "medical doctor". People, as far as I know, usually just say "doctor", the medical part is assumed in those situations

[pure loom]

Md = Mendelevium

[neon stream]

Interesting, funny that we never mentioned that Mendeleev has an element named after him that was discovered in Berkeley Labs 😂

[pure loom]

We need this as a new emoji

[neon stream]

(I only copy pasted the elements discovered in Berkeley Labs, never read them 😅 )

I was like, "okay, they discovered astine and a few -iums"

[pure loom]

I smell something...

https://tenor.com/view/smells-like-victory-apocalypse-now-gif-5656800

[neon stream]

Smells like teen spirit

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-grohl-gif-24300974

[neon stream]

Funny how that guy looks exactly like Foo Fighter's singer 😛

[pure loom]

Distant cousins I reckon

Nothing to do with the answer, but this is a damn cool diagram

I love that they chose to use the Great Pyramid as part of the scale

[latent peak]

This is probably a stretch, but about 10-31. I found out that he mass of an electron is 9.1 × 10-31 kilograms.

https://www.atomicarchive.com/science/physics/atomic-structure.html

[pure loom]

Oh, that is interesting!

Funny

[neon stream]

Looks like a Gantt chart 😅

[neon stream]

I like that there's a row for multiverse

[slender lodge]

thats what i thought 😂

[timid solstice]

Mendeleev medallion confirmed ! we are one step closer!

[boreal trench]

Hippocrates was born in 460 BC as well, traditionally referred to as the "Father of Medicine" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates

[pure loom]

Good combo - the clues seem to be all over the place around elements, medicine etc

[latent peak]

On the nurse/medecine track i found out that.
"The Berkeley lab has been a worldwide pioneer in the development of radiation therapy for treating cancer."

https://www.ucop.edu/laboratory-management/about-the-labs/overview-lbnl.html

[pure loom]

In a way it would be a well-made easter egg if it starts out with Soviet space race, and ends with a USA-based answer.

[pure loom]

Interesting that Berkeley Lab invented the Chromatron (a type of colour TV) - the images have all has what is mostly a black and white blanket in the image with other colour elements added to it. There could be some sort of connection there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatron

[latent peak]

That's interesting!

Another thing, they also house the ALS (Advanced light Source) facilty.

"One of the world's brightest sources of ultraviolet and soft x-ray light"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Light_Source

[pure loom]

Also, the white dots on the blanket could be static on a TV.

[pure loom]

Speaking of space flight, if you didn’t already know, Artemis 1 is currently on the launchpad for its test flight. Launching, hopefully, in the next hour or so.

https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

[latent peak]

👀

[pure loom]

Launch in 8 minutes

[tranquil ivy]

watching it rn

[pure loom]

🚀

[boreal trench]

maybe rob has put an easter egg in the official livestream somewhere, better watch to make sure

[tranquil ivy]

1min!

[pure loom]

[tranquil ivy]

WOOO

It did it!

[tropic lichen]

les gooo

[pure loom]

That was awesome!

[tranquil ivy]

Is this the first moon launch since a few decades?

[pure loom]

First time flying a rocket designed to fly humans to the Moon since 1972

[tranquil ivy]

Ahhhh ok

Wow tho

truly amazing

[pure loom]

Albeit without humans in this test flight

[tranquil ivy]

Still

[vital cove]

I lied and added nothing to the padlet yesterday

[neon stream]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates_(lunar_crater)

Ok Rob, so we had an image with all the weapons, one for the AK, one for the LMG, and one for the UZI. Now we need one with the shoes I guess, or maybe that piece of cloth 🤷🏻‍♂️

We'll get this, soon ™️

[tulip matrix]

ye

[neon stream]

Don't lose your hope on us 😂

[tulip matrix]

I have faith

[neon stream]

Same

We have SR on our side, that has to count for something 🙏🏻

[solar glade]

this reminds me of the Crypto-ARG in Apex, we also had a canticle for the ARG creator. we called him Cryptoppa

[cold forum]

what a throwback ❤️

[pure loom]

MAC-10 rather than UZI. Sorry for being pedantic, but while they’re very similar, they do look slightly different - UZIs are a bit longer than MAC-10s and a bit less aesthetically pleasing to look at.

[neon stream]

No worries! I have no idea about guns, so it's good to learn. I took the name from the Padlet 😂

[pure loom]

I hope we get something other than these three to look at in the next tier. Goo Gun Tier when??

[pure loom]

There’s something about that blanket. The white specks on it look like TV static

It’s the black and white element and everything else is colour

[neon stream]

Do we know anything about CRTs in space?

or medicine 🤔

Unless static is not related to CRTs and I just don't remember them post CRTs displays 😂

[pure loom]

I think Apollo only had digital calculator-style readouts. The LEM computer was green digits IIRC

They also had film cameras. 16mm

[pure loom]

The signal arrived on Earth and was converted for TV here. For Apollo XI they actually lost the original data. They taped over it years later

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

There was a project to try and find it, but they concluded it was gone

There was TV recordings of the high res monitors in Australia which they do have. They gave slightly better footage than the one we usually see when they show Armstrong on the foot of the ladder. And there is the 16mm colour film that Aldrin took.

The blanket seems to represent TV footage of the landings. Or something like that.

I think the later Apollo landings (maybe like 14 onwards) had colour TV footage.

[neon stream]

I just remembered this 😂😂😂

[pure loom]

I don’t know how we’d fashion a connection between any of this and the other clues though.

[neon stream]

I guess I should've known 😅

[pure loom]

Lol.

https://tenor.com/view/master-teacher-darth-vador-the-force-star-wars-gif-14314475

To be fair, I often refer to Duhmeister for gun info.

Then just take all the glory for myself

[pure loom]

Isn’t film made of cellulose? Maybe a Linnaeus connection?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose_acetate_film

But the blanket, with the ‘static’ seems to refer more to the TV signal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera

I think for Luna 3 the Russians used American film they’d recovered from spy balloons or something like that.

[neon stream]

Very environmentally friendly of them

♻️

[pure loom]

The blanket has bothered me all this time - it looks like it’s full of interesting clues, but doesn’t seem to fit any of the other clues.

I mean, how would we link the blanket to Mendeleev??

The new element, Rugium

[neon stream]

EZ:

Blanket>Invisibility cloak>Harry Potter>HP>Hewlett Packard>Partnership with Berkeley in Fall 2012>Berkeley Labs>Oganesson>Periodic Table>Mendeleev

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-26205842

And then there’s Dusty and Rob’s text clues yesterday. “Medical Doctor” presumably = Dmitri Mendeleev and “Registered Nurse” presumably = Radon (Rn) or are they something else?

[neon stream]

Going back to that connection... does this look familiar...?

Could the "orbit" clue be that? 🤔

[tulip matrix]

Blanket kind of looks like particle trails in a cloud chamber

[pure loom]

Oh, interesting that Rutherford is nearby. I didn’t know that. Ernest Rutherford and Robert Owens discovered Radon.

Rutherford also split the atom for the first time. He’s also on our (New Zealand) $100 dollar note.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford

[pure loom]

Yes, a bit. Could be another link to nuclear physics.

And where does Linnaeus fit into the nuclear physics?

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[solar glade]

me rn

[mortal ivy]

Good evening! Another day closer to the NamaTama

[cold forum]

I love this so much

[pure loom]

Hilarious!

[mortal ivy]

After some random googling I found this https://worldhistoryproject.org/1869/elizabeth-blackwell-and-florence-nightingale-opened-the-womens-medical-college-in-england

Florence Nightingale (from Registered Nurse clue) opened a Women's Medical College in 1869

[pure loom]

nuclear_friend_you_need

[pure loom]

And she taught Emmy Rappe, who attended Uppsala University - so a link to Carl Linnaeus there

[mortal ivy]

Yes, I saw that you wrote something about it the other day, so that's why I looked into what she might have done around that time period 😄

[pure loom]

I still think we need Mendeleev to be somewhere close to our path because of the coin, and Rob making a point of commenting about it

[neon stream]

We need more NamaTama memes so Rob sends him to help us 😂

@prisma stump unleash your role as Meme Royalty

[tulip matrix]

The Last Eggbender

[fallen jasper]

Making memes from other properties?
Making memes from other Embark properties?

[neon stream]

👀

[cedar owl]

Byzantine empire makes me belly laugh every time! 🤣

[fallen jasper]

She said Byzantine Empire it must be a clue

[cedar owl]

Sorry for the false hope

[fallen jasper]

If there isn't a spray at some point in the game that's just Byzantine Empire? I will be sad

[zenith crown]

[fallen jasper]

It would make no sense to anyone besides like the 5 people that would get it but that would be funny

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnamflashback-gif-7780922

[cedar owl]

I would laugh every time, at least

[pure loom]

My therapist is like "you want to talk about that empire again, don't you?"

[fallen jasper]

Listen I'm just saying

This is Byzantine. It's from Greece. They're using Roman Style helmets.

[neon stream]

Leaked skins 😛

[pure loom]

I wonder what's the minimum degrees of separation between the Byzantine Empire and Kevin Bacon...

[fallen jasper]

If I could walk around in a roman emperor's robes I would 100% do that

[pure loom]

For those wonder what on Earth I'm on about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon#:~:text=Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon or Bacon's Law is a,ultimately leads to prolific American

[fallen jasper]

Embark stalking the chat for cosmetic ideas:

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[neon stream]

Thanks! I didn't get it without that 😂

[pure loom]

Next stats update: 6,327 kills by gold scepter

One thing that Mendeleev and Linnaeus have in common is that they were both responsible for the organization of information. I found a paper talking about both of them https://studylib.net/doc/8943249/linnaeus--mendeleev--dewey--and-ranganathan

both of their systems are a taxonomies (systems of classification)

They both have medals named after them, as well as lunar craters, and asteroids (2769 Mendeleev, 7412 Linnaeus).

[tulip matrix]

two and a half

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-24076054

[latent peak]

What kind of password do you guys think it will most likely be?
Personally I've been looking for an Ångström number or atomic weight etc.

[neon stream]

It could be anything, represented in any way, as long as it's ASCII 😅

[pure loom]

A difficult one.

[latent peak]

Yeah I know 😅 Do you lean towards any theory personally though?

[neon stream]

Not really, honestly, I think that ends up adding bias and we might end up missing the answer 😅

I was leaning towards it being spectroscopy related a few days ago, but now I have my serious doubts 😂

[pure loom]

I don't feel as alone any more

[neon stream]

We are all part of the guild/clan of hunters, we are all lost until we find the answer with SR's guidance, and SR works in very mysterious ways 😂

[latent peak]

Fair enough! : )

[pure loom]

I found a paper with an author named "Lacko" which references someone as Berkeley Labs, but it's a pretty specific paper about melanoma - doesn't seem too relative unless there's some link to UV rays causing skin cancer, which would seem like a pretty odd path for an answer.

[latent peak]

That's kinda interesting though, I found LDNL has been pioneers in cancer radiation treatment

[pure loom]

I find a file with "lacko" and "karol" on it together

[latent peak]

: O

[pure loom]

Not even sure what it is - some sort of record

hmmm... this looks like a living person who works for a company called Merk Food. This might just be a weird coincidence

[latent peak]

I think its an invoice,
Faktura means invoice in several languages

[pure loom]

This is the company they work for: https://www.merkfood.eu/

Looks like some sort of supermarket. Surely this has to be a coincidence and not a proper path, especially being someone that is living

[latent peak]

I think so too

[pure loom]

This looks better. A physics paper by someone called Michal Lacko and Karol Wnorowski: https://epjd.epj.org/articles/epjd/abs/2015/03/d140721/d140721.html

The subject of the paper, iron pentacarbonyl, has been found to be a strong flame speed inhibitor in oxygen based flames. A few hundred ppm of iron pentacarbonyl are known to reduce the flame speed of stoichiometric methane–air flame by almost 50%. However due to its toxic nature it has not been used widely as a flame retardant.

This is something that could be game-related - fire extinguishers

Michal Lacko has a whole bunch of papers around the spectrometry area

[latent peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-interesting-batman-gif-11990772

I think i might have found a strong connection.
There's this sculpture/monument to the periodic table with mendeleev in the middle made by artist Karol Lacko

https://www.meta-synthesis.com/webbook/35_pt/pt_database.php?PT_id=186

[pure loom]

Oh! This looks like a much better connection! Hadn't someone posted this previously?

The image that is

[latent peak]

Ah yeah ..? Maybe when we were searching for the coin!

[pure loom]

I'm gonna look at Bratislava, Slovakia where the monument is

[timid solstice]

Very nice finds well done 👍🏼

[sweet narwhal]

This may be a stretch but the coin looks like Jonathan Apphus who had some relation to an earthquake/flood that occurred in 92 bc which is the hidden number in the lmg background the only reason I don’t know the link is that the Wikipedia article on the earthquake just says “earthquakes are also connected to the earlier rein of Jonathan Apphus” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/92_BC_Levant_earthquake https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Apphus

[timid solstice]

The coin is confirmed as Mendeleev

[pure loom]

I think Dusty and Rob's comments about the coin yesterday point to it being Dmitri Mendeleev

[sweet narwhal]

Mb

[timid solstice]

So that’s 2 clues to Mendeleev in that mac10 image and the other

[shell spear]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-amazing-shocked-omg-omfg-gif-17956745

[timid solstice]

I did a quick search for Karol Lacko a week ago, saw someone on linked and Facebook and went off it. I even saw that monument skimming the page 😩

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/its-okay-its-okay-baby-yoda-gif-21232706

[neon stream]

To answer your previous question: I lean towards THAT

I think we are VERY close to the answer

That image pretty much connects all the clues

[solar glade]

wonderful find

[sweet narwhal]

Ngl think I had a Charlie moment

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[pure loom]

You need to level up in the discord before you can post images

like 30 posts or something

[sweet narwhal]

Rip

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

It's what he would have wanted

[solar glade]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

Rob rn

[slender lodge]

😂

[timid solstice]

Let’s solve 92 [insert something]

[pure loom]

I was looking at that earlier - it looks a bit like 92^-3

Maybe another atomic particle thing?

[sweet narwhal]

My only thing related to 92 (besides the earthquake) is cesium but i don’t think that’s related

[pure loom]

Caesium?

[sweet narwhal]

Spellings hard

[pure loom]

What's the connection?

[sweet narwhal]

In Mendeleevs periodic table Ce is = 92

[pure loom]

oh, interesting, I didn't know that

[sweet narwhal]

When I looked more into Ce I couldn’t find anything else related tho

[solar glade]

this why we needed fresh eyes

[sweet narwhal]

Cerium not cesium

[neon stream]

@sweet narwhal @latent peak keep talking, you almost got Rob to speak

[sweet narwhal]

We nearly woke up an eldritch god

[pure loom]

I've added the sculpture to the padlet

[proud minnow]

Hi all.!
We know you already solved this tier, so you don't need any more clues... anyway here his a small little thing that you apparently don't need... ._.

[neon stream]

Yeah, he mentioned the sculpture before

[timid solstice]

THE_FINALS_a_friend_you_APPARENTLY_dont_need.png

LOL

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

[neon stream]

Okay guys, now we can say the answer! Let's just wait a few hours to be discrete

[latent peak]

we got this!

[timid solstice]

i thought you had it

[solar glade]

<rdf:li photoshop:LayerName="...yes we know..." photoshop:LayerText="...you already solve this tier loooooong time ago (lol)... with love embark.!"/> </rdf:Bag> </photoshop:TextLayers>

[timid solstice]

so we are looking for the name of a chemist/scientist?

[neon stream]

Yeah, now that we got the four images + NamaTama, we can start talking about answers. We lost the leverage, now we have to speak

[pure loom]

Interesting little detail there

[slender lodge]

waiot u guys solved it?

[solar glade]

i believe that just the right side strap of the goggles

[sweet narwhal]

i leave for 5 minutes and rob drops a new image

[slender lodge]

this joy... was temporary

[pure loom]

Yeah, I agree - interesting that the black threads are there though

[sweet narwhal]

imma investigate any chemists related to cerium

[timid solstice]

they have something to do with everything

Mendeleev wiki-

[sweet narwhal]

idk he woke up close to my cerium post so i thought it could be connected

[timid solstice]

92 is keyboard alt code for \ BACK SLASH btw

[pure loom]

Also, there's nothing in the test tube, so we may be looking for a colorless gas

Henry Cavendish discovered hydrogen - his birthday is 10 Oct 1731 - maybe the the "10 31" clue? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cavendish

Also the "orbit" clue could be hydrogen with its single electron.

[latent peak]

Good point!

[fallen jasper]

You know those goggles have to be a OSHA violation. The strap goes right over a bit of yolk it'll just fall off of Nama Tama

[pure loom]

Also, hydrogen is a common rocket fuel

[fallen jasper]

Could have something to do with Albert Ghiorso, he's the one that co discovered 12 elements, his partner for most of them was Glenn T. Seaborg

[timid solstice]

fishxw mentioned a while back "'By definition, superheavy elements are also transuranium elements, i.e., having atomic numbers greater than that of uranium (92).'"

this could be the 92+ clue: Transuranium elements

[pure loom]

yeah, true

[sweet narwhal]

i would totally think this is the scientist but where do you go once you have the scientist

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-moon-grabatar-xyzgrabatar-gif-25342834

nah, I dunno

[zenith crown]

i think we should solve it ngl

[boreal trench]

The main thing I'm confused about is if the the link to spectroscopy is just because you use it to find elements.

[pure loom]

One thing I just thought of is that the Moon actually has a super-thin atmosphere. The most abundant element in that is argon, which is a colorless gas exhibiting a lilac/violet glow when placed in an electric field ('neon' light).

But that "orbit" clue really points to hydrogen

Until 1957, the symbol for argon was "A"

[timid solstice]

Didn't we kindof see the halflife Lambda symbol as a scratch somewhere λ . 118 Og oganesson is 0.0007 s but that didnt work

[pure loom]

Other numbers we have: 5, 9TE (the 9 could be another symbol), 0

[sweet narwhal]

i thought 9TE was solved

[pure loom]

oh, was it?

[timid solstice]

not really

SMG mag zip: 9TE = 9TE-5 Telescope ?

[sweet narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heinrich_Klaproth this guy co discovered cerium and was the discoverer of uranium both elements are related to 92

[pure loom]

Several well-known chemists went to Uppsala University (where Linnaeus was):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jöns_Jacob_Berzelius

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torbern_Bergman

[sweet narwhal]

correction he independently discovered cerium

[timid solstice]

9TE could be the 9th Transuranium Element ... mendelevium

[pure loom]

true

good linking

[timid solstice]

dont forget Angstrom!

[sweet narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaproth_(crater) moon crator was named after him

[pure loom]

Yes!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Jonas_Ångström

Carl Scheele who discovered oxygen was also in Uppsala (different lab though) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Wilhelm_Scheele

[tulip matrix]

5f137s2

[timid solstice]

YAYA

[tulip matrix]

[neon stream]

@tulip matrix SR!!!!!

[timid solstice]

just as we planned

i was just reading the wiki lol

[pure loom]

How?!

[tulip matrix]

someone verify the clue

It won't let me

[pure loom]

the Rn!

[timid solstice]

and literally just added this too to the pin 9th Transuranic Element Mendelevium

well done everyone!

[neon stream]

niiiiiice!

[pure loom]

Serpenger 2, Duh 2 - a mighty battle! hehe

[neon stream]

We are all a team here

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/welldone-gif-21785034

[tulip matrix]

[neon stream]

I tried something similar a while ago, but for Oganesson 😂

whoops

[neon stream]

I sent it, crediting you ofc

[boreal trench]

Nice work!

[timid solstice]

from Block: f-block ... so that morse on the label in the first image was F

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

https://tenor.com/view/noris-dyd-support-on-to-the-next-jurmala-next-chapter-gif-20897031

[tulip matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[pure loom]

Funnily enough. I am listening to Dark Side Of The Moon...

[latent peak]

Thank you!

[tulip matrix]

I'm listening to hip hop
maybe that's the key

[neon stream]

Nah, definitely SR is the key

🙏🏻

[pure loom]

Only 44 tabs to close...

[neon stream]

.. ._.

[tulip matrix]

GG!

[timid solstice]

so... whats VIOLET about?

[pure loom]

Even Dmitri is pleased to kick back

[timid solstice]

im putting out my SR candles

[neon stream]

Keep them nearby, we'll need them for the next hunt 😂

[fallen jasper]

Did we solve it

What was the answer

[timid solstice]

yes

5f137s2

[pure loom]

that's the colour our foreheads are after banging them against the wall for two weeks

[neon stream]

The last part of the electron configuration of Mendelevium

[fallen jasper]

I was cleaning my cup and then realized I was using something with bleach in it so I guess I am not drinking from it for a bit

i stg lmao

I have no clue where to begin to mark the right path for that on the padlet LOL

[neon stream]

@proud minnow psssttt, I know it's 2:20 in Sweden, but Duh solved the tier and we need more images 😂

[pure loom]

Yeah, hurry it up can you?

[timid solstice]

haha, i added the answer at the far right btw

https://youtu.be/DrssJRb301k

nutters

[boreal trench]

literally yesterday i put the electron configuration for md as the password put i put rn at the start haha

[timid solstice]

oh no!

[fallen jasper]

I moved it over lol

[boreal trench]

i tried everything on that Wikipedia out of boredom

well done

[pure loom]

this is hilarious

[boreal trench]

what about spectrography?

[pure loom]

racing in the VW

[boreal trench]

and violet?

[timid solstice]

no idea ha

[boreal trench]

is it just because its an element

[sweet narwhal]

DID WE DO IT

[neon stream]

yep

[sweet narwhal]

LETS GOO

[neon stream]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-gif-24453551

[timid solstice]

giriko, SPEAR and fishxw tomorrow...

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-frodo-waking-early-gif-12303392

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-lotr-wokeuplikethis-frodo-gif-5614684

[neon stream]

It was a clue to this song, the guy looks like Mendeleev but without a beard /s

(sorry for posting this meh song 😂 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHZJFAk3dI

[tulip matrix]

[boreal trench]

looking forward to the next image, wanna be there so i can be first to post some easy clue

[timid solstice]

I think that played out well, we got 3 extra artworks and a Nama Tama!

[neon stream]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[sweet narwhal]

im so hyped for the next image

[timid solstice]

new Sponsor?!

[boreal trench]

i wanna be here for when it is posted, ball park how long did it take last time to get the new image?

[timid solstice]

it was 9 am for me, so in 7 hours. they had to confirm the right answer first then update the website

[boreal trench]

but what time did you guys solve it?

[pure loom]

Just under an hour ago - they'll probably post new images about mid-morning Sweden time

[boreal trench]

i meant the last stage

[timid solstice]

checking, it was night before

[boreal trench]

ah ok, cool

so similar to this time

[timid solstice]

ah hover over says 3:17 am so was 6 hours later

[tulip matrix]

Actually knew that the whole time
Just was waiting for Dr. Namatama

[neon stream]

I got pinged, but I see no message, what was it? 🤔

[tulip matrix]

ghost ping 👻

[timid solstice]

@fallen jasper could you kindly create a new padlet for T1-D please

[timid solstice]

me sorry, was asking the time that you got the answer for t1B

[neon stream]

Oh ok. No worries!

[tulip matrix]

Only six more tiers to go!

🫠

[neon stream]

Not sure, it was late 😂

[timid solstice]

So Im guessing clue ark for 118 was;
118 - Oganesson - Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory - Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory - where Mendelevium was also discovered

[boreal trench]

Maybe it was just 118 - 118 known elements - Dmitri Mendeleev - Mendelevium

[timid solstice]

good idea

[solar glade]

DAYUM

[solar glade]

HAHA

what a solve!

[tulip matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/crowd-goes-wild-sport-vs-santa-cruz-cheering-crowd-ecstatic-gif-16690428

[timid solstice]

the 10-31 clue, first time element and periodic table was mentioned perhaps?

[boreal trench]

yeah makes sense

[solar glade]

everything is connected at the end. always

[fallen jasper]

Yeah I'll make one

[timid solstice]

thankyou!, let us know if you want contribution for the subscription in some way

[fallen jasper]

It's like $6 a month it's fine lol

[neon stream]

We can all just meet once a year in Sweden for coffee, and we pay for Justice's coffee /s 😛

[fallen jasper]

https://padlet.com/JusticeCharity/w720itqruz4njx1b

Ignore the cover for it it's currently pending a image

[timid solstice]

haha, btw that Tier 1B should be Tier 1D

[fallen jasper]

oops

[slender lodge]

U GUYS DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tulip matrix]

Why would you change this cover image

[slender lodge]

CONGRATS!!

[tulip matrix]

it is clearly perfect

[slender lodge]

i see it

[timid solstice]

T1-D

4 - Into_The_Mystic
Into_The_Mystic: Song Van Morrison✅
Scrambled text footer: U+004F = O U+006F = o U+2400 = NUL✅
Symbol on wrist: Electricity symbol❓
roman numerals: CCCLXV = 365✅
Silencer text: CXXXVI CVIII = 136 108 Haumea❓
Hidden word: Geometria = Euclid's Geometria / La Géométrie 1637 René Descartes❓
Tattoos on fingers: ITUS = Vespasian Titus Roman Emperor✅
Dots on shadow:❓
Hidden text: 5 M310N63N4 = S melongena Eggplant✅
Hidden drawing: Eggplant flower❓
Lines and dots in footer:❓
X: 10❓
Xth: 10th✅
Crescent Symbol: Mayan Zero❓

3 - Red_Sports_Caracter
Red: Red noise/Brownian noise❓
Caracter: missing h = Red Sports Car Van Morrison✅
BIV: Brain in a vat✅
X Coat of arms: René Descartes✅
Text: SATCAT no. 25008 = Cassini–Huygens✅
Hidden text: 79=48=111=0x30= O 0 o 0 Euclid's proof✅
Hidden symbols: Vesina Piscis Diagram✅
Crash test symbol: Cassini crash into Saturn❓
Dino: Throwback or extinction❓
Blue glints: Saturn aurora❓
Namatama: w crease❓
Pixels in corners: 1637 = René Descartes Geometria✅
Symbol on belt: Ø = Empty Set✅

2 - Brown_Eyed_Girl
Brown: Brown noise/Brownian noise❓
Brown_Eyed_Girl: Song by Van Morrison✅
Transparent pixels: 44 24 44 11 33 = TITAN ✅
Hidden block pattern: Binary LEITH = Cecil/Virginia Leith ❓
Hidden tower pattern: = Euclid's 13 elements✅
Earring: Symbol ♄ = Saturn✅
Headphone scratch: ❓
Mic stripes: Golden ratio ❓
Strap text: 110D631 or 110D831❓
Mask engraving: Xth = 10th✅
Mask text: VM.57or VM.67 = Van Morrison 1957 The Sputniks / 1967 “Blowin' Your Mind!”❓
Mask engraving 2 : Frombork✅
Footer signature: Nicolaus Copernicus✅
Weird right eye:❓

1 - 404
Numbers: 3 2 5 = Euclid 325 BC✅

https://tinyurl.com/mpse5crx
https://tinyurl.com/4t89xc33
https://tinyurl.com/29znfchc
https://tinyurl.com/yck2mbe9

[slender lodge]

i see a pattern

[pure loom]

5, 19, 18 = E S R = Eggs from Saint Rob

https://tenor.com/view/you-see-it-is-part-plan-explain-gif-20448886

[tulip matrix]

Hunters

this team

it needs a name

[neon stream]

ASAP ^

We have time until next hunt, lets come up with a name in the meantime

[pure loom]

How about "Why Is It Taking So Long Incorporated"

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tuss-jokes-gotcha-burn-ouch-gif-5645546

[tulip matrix]

don't anyone dare say Å-team

[neon stream]

https://tenor.com/view/ateam-plan-together-i-love-it-when-hannibal-gif-19272497

[slender lodge]

😂

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-fours-the-a-team-gif-8052560

[neon stream]

The Order of Saint Rob /s

[timid solstice]

Bigus Tardus latin for Team Slow 🤣

[neon stream]

Byzantinen't Empire /s

[fallen jasper]

Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων Imperium Romanum

[neon stream]

Whatever we decide for the name, like any good group we should have a song to represent us /s

My proposal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0HO1KloJeM

😂

Rob is already subbed to the guy that composed the song, so that's a plus 😛

[timid solstice]

goodnight all, I will miss the fun of any new artwork if it is in the morning but will catch up... dont solve it too quick 😜

[neon stream]

gn!

You know we won't solve it quickly, we need to get all the images first!

[latent peak]

Good night!

[slender lodge]

was this EE level hard?

like were the clues deeper than before's?

[neon stream]

I don't think so. I think that the most difficult part about this hunt was figuring out the theme, it felt more disconnected than previous ones

But we got the answer! So now to the next hunt 💪🏻

[pure loom]

How about Masters of Egg Hunting?

MEH for short

[latent peak]

what about 'Eggheads' ?

[pure loom]

[zenith crown]

Ahhh another one solved

[neon stream]

Yeah, we followed your idea 😛

[zenith crown]

See im a genius

[latent peak]

Nevermind i thought it meant to opposite

[zenith crown]

My ideas always works

I think this just proves that im obvs a critical team member here

[neon stream]

nobody ever said otherwise

[zenith crown]

No one is opposing me so its true

[neon stream]

@latent peak new role? Congrats!

[fallen jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esrQ2_fl1K8

I propose this

[latent peak]

Thank you!

[pure loom]

My dad rock entry for the team song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-5YC_oHjE

[neon stream]

I'll support any U2 reference 😂

[tulip matrix]

Good night everyone and good luck with Tier 1D of which the first image will inevitably arrive before I'm awake haaaaaa

[pure loom]

gn!

[vital cove]

Let's goooooo!

So wtf was all the spectroscopy about?

I don't understand enough science to see how that's connected to the periodic table clues

[pure loom]

I think it was that each element has its own spectral lines, so it was telling us we needed to look for a single element.

[vital cove]

Ahhh

Yeah like how the X was to indicate Ronan numeral

That kind of clue is unintuitive to me lmao but I get it

Wait I think I get it, isn't spectroscopy used to determine the molecular makeup of exoplanar atmospheres?

[latent peak]

Not yet. Hopefully soon!

[pure loom]

It can be used for all sorts of things. The sun’s light has spectral lines from the elements it has in it. For exoplanets, they compare the spectral lines from the host star to those seen when the exoplanet passes in front of the host star to determine the atmosphere of the exoplanet.

[vital cove]

gotcha

[mortal ivy]

Good morning and good luck 👋

[pure loom]

You know we got the password?

[mortal ivy]

Nope haha

[pure loom]

It was the electron configuration number for Mendelevium (without the Rn).

5f137s2

[mortal ivy]

Can't really see how we would get to that 🤔

Completely breaking the pattern of the password as well 😰

[pure loom]

The element named after Dmitri Mendeleev.

[south wyvern]

Is that the only clue tied to it?

Sorry, didn't follow the hunt the past days

[pure loom]

There were quite a few clues that pointed to elements

Spectral lines, 118 to represent the periodic table.

118 - the element Oganesson. LBNL clue - Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory - where Mendelevium was discovered

Karol Lacko - a sculptor that made a sculpture about Mendeleev

We probably just kept trying to look a bit too far past Mendeleev

[vital cove]

Makes the dark side of the moon a bit of a red herring. Yes, he has an area named after him there, but so do many other scientists who have clues associated with them. Anyway in the end he had more clues pointing specifically towards him than anyone else by a large margin so it's all good in the hood

I'm gonna try to really get involved in this next tier now that I finally feel a little caught up on rob's methods 😌

[pure loom]

Yes, a lot of the clues are related, but just more curiosities

[mortal ivy]

Agreed, both image 1 and 2 is kind of redundant, and those was when we were aligned the most 😅

[tawdry jungle]

one simply cannot catch up on Rob's methods

[vital cove]

A little caught up

[tawdry jungle]

also hello det-egg-tives!

[vital cove]

I have no image editing skills so I'll have to wait for y'all to find the clues but I think I can be of assistance in the associative thinking department to piece them together

[mortal ivy]

As soon as we get T1-D, I'll get all of the pieces for you to look at Hank 😎

[vital cove]

💪

[vital cove]

Now we know it can be a word, a number, a numeral, and a scientific notation 😂

[pure loom]

I’m glad we have the chemistry exam… ahem… I mean Easter egg out of the way.

[mortal ivy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laff-tv-smh-bernie-mac-mr-3000-pajLsGB0Hub0naPw0p

I was so happy reading up on ultraviolet and spectrum, and it ended up being electron shells fml 😦

[tawdry jungle]

Rob is so galaxy brained it's super cool tbh

(this is not a clue I'm simply expressing my admiration)

[pure loom]

Galaxy brain. This is a new term!

[vital cove]

Looking back on it, I think the orbit clue is just part of the Moon clues in general. "Yes his name is on our only natural satellite" that kind of thing

[pure loom]

The orbit clue was a hydrogen atom, I think. Again pointing to elements

[timid solstice]

Orbit clue was for electron configurations I think. Atomic orbits

[vital cove]

Oh right like Dr. Manhattan's forehead

[south wyvern]

Could be both tbh

[timid solstice]

Yes

[vital cove]

Ok so since every tier should be solvable with the clues from the first image, let's try to reason backwards from the answer

[timid solstice]

I tried, it’s hard

[vital cove]

TIER 1C - Artwork Observations

Promo_ISEULT_Candy_

LMG pouch charm: Pink equilateral triangle = Pink Floyd
LMG stock white label: E-2A No.1 = Luna 3 codename
LMG stock white label: AAИ = 118
LMG stock white label: . . _ . = F ?
LMG stock: A = Anders Ångström
LMG stock bullet strip code:1-5-1-3 ?

LMG Ammo pouch: ЛУНА III = Luna 3

SMG body: 118
SMG handle: Striped shoelace

AK Magazine : x-X = Angstrom unit
AK Buckle on grip: 460 = Democritus atomic theory
AK Near the sight: A = Anders Ångström
AK Buckle on stock: BC = Democritus atomic theory

[timid solstice]

That’s old btw

[vital cove]

you guys got more from that image?

[timid solstice]

Morse is F so likely for F Block, that element 101 is in

[vital cove]

I'm trying to see if anything you guys found points to Mendeleev specifically

in that first image

it became really obvious later, of course

[timid solstice]

This is a good summary tbh of what could have been the clue #easter-eggs message

[tawdry jungle]

you guys need anything pinned btw?

[vital cove]

yeah but most of those things are from later images

[pure loom]

Ping da boss

[mortal ivy]

Took 4 days until Mendeleev was even spoken about

[vital cove]

oh wait nevermind

[tawdry jungle]

I'm still drinking my coffee leave me alone

[mortal ivy]

@tawdry jungle We need t1c confirmed so we can move on

[tawdry jungle]

I meant pinned

[vital cove]

Mendeleev came up with the first periodic table in the first place

so that's why, an element named after him in the construction that he invented

yeah theoretically that was enough information

Duh mentioned that on november 4th

[timid solstice]

118 is the only clue to Mendeleev in my eyes from image 1

118 elements - periodic table - Mendeleev

[mortal ivy]

1869

[timid solstice]

No idea on that

[mortal ivy]

1869 is the year he published the periodic table

[timid solstice]

Oh haa

[mortal ivy]

And it was a cistercisan number we found on the acryllic gun stand thinguy

[vital cove]

was 1869 a number in the original image?

[timid solstice]

Nope

[mortal ivy]

No, the third? maybe

[vital cove]

yeah I'm sticking to the first image now

[mortal ivy]

ah, sorry

[vital cove]

to reason backwards from the answer

[pure loom]

Plus Russians.

[timid solstice]

Was image 2

[vital cove]

trying to learn how Rob thinks about clues and hints

[mortal ivy]

Yeah, then probably only 118

[tawdry jungle]

[timid solstice]

The pain

[mortal ivy]

AAN was never even solved, it makes no sense

[pure loom]

Spectral lines are about elements

[timid solstice]

118 again, must be

[mortal ivy]

But it's not 118, it's 1 1 8 🤔

PIN would be 118

[pure loom]

That’s just a decode method thing

[timid solstice]

The most direct clue was 9TE imo

[pure loom]

I really wanted it to be about Pink Floyd

I hope we get a music one again later

[timid solstice]

So team names, any new ideas

The FEET … The Finals Easter Egg Team

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/zohan-gif-22437366

[timid solstice]

😂

[tawdry jungle]

the feet squad

[timid solstice]

FEEST - Finals Easter Egg Solving Team. No guarantees

[mortal ivy]

FONT - Friends of NamaTama

[vital cove]

118 = periodic table = Mendeleev
Pink floyd = dark side of the moon
Luna 3 = imaging mission, so something that was first seen then, and Russian

Lunar regions named after Russian scientists involved with the periodic table after the creation of the Atlas of the Far Side of the Moon that was based on the Luna 3 mission, officially adopted by the IAU 2 years after the Luna 3 mission: Mendeleev

That's the Who. Now for the What:

460 = birthyear of Democritus, creator of atomic theory
x-X: Angstrom unit, used to measure the size of atoms and molecules
Anders Angstrom: founder of spectroscopy
Spectroscopy: "allowing the composition, physical structure and electronic structure of matter to be investigated at the atomic, molecular and macro scale"
F= block F within the periodic table

Therefore: we are identifying the measurable structure of an atom/element, located within the periodic table's block F, named after the scientist who created it, who has a crater on the far side of the Moon named after him, first identified by the Russian Luna 3 mission.

The only clue I can't fit in this yet is 1-5-1-3. what do we think that meant?

[timid solstice]

I was thinking the Luna 3 far side of the moon just a reference to Russian and Pink Floyd Album cover/Spectroscopy Anders Angstrom

@vital cove try and work out the violet clues

You might get there

[mortal ivy]

Just saw rob's passive aggressive naming of the latest NamaTama 😂

[vital cove]

idk about the violet colour per se, but the iris sibirica is a violet flower. "It has the common names of Siberian Iris". Mendeleev was born in the Tobolsk Governorate in the Russian Empire, which is located in Siberia.

[hidden nacelle]

did yous solve it?

[pure loom]

Yes

[hidden nacelle]

what was it?

[pure loom]

5f137s2

It was the electron configuration number for Mendelevium (without the Rn).

[hidden nacelle]

[vital cove]

@pure loom if you read the bullet primer thing the other way, so not the inverse of the previous tier, what number sequence do you get then?

(of the first image I mean, that led to 1513)

[pure loom]

Ah, I’m not sure. I’m on iPad at the moment, so can’t check.

[vital cove]

can you explain how you count it?

[pure loom]

Bullets with non-primer marks count as a number, ones without it are part of a space

In this one

The opposite on the last

But this one could have been wrong

Goodnight all. Hopefully a new image soon!

[timid solstice]

goodnight!

[vital cove]

I don't get it or see it, idk enough about primer marks i guess

just wondering if maybe if you read it differently you get something like Mendelevium's electrons per shell count

2, 8, 18, 32, 31, 8, 2

[timid solstice]

I only saw it on the vertical not the horizontal, noted in green low to high

[vital cove]

thanks

[proud minnow]

CONGRATULATION all EE-hunters, well done.!

[hidden nacelle]

[sharp flame]

Wait i just missed it 😭

[hidden nacelle]

they solved it like 10 hours ago

[sharp flame]

Like 10 minutes after I went to sleep 😶

[slender lodge]

i actually knew the answer 20 days before

found it in my sleep

[proud minnow]

hehe, well, there are a lot of clues (18 to be exact) directly linked to Dmitri Mendeleev hidden in the images released... for example his birthday is hidden in a couple of places, birth town in Siberia, Karol Lacko who made a famous statue of Medeleev, a medal named after Mendeleev with his portrait, a mendeleev flower, Iris sibirica, clues and atom number to Mendelevium etc, etc...

[proud minnow]

I know this tier was a little bit too easy, we will make sure next tier will be a little bit harder… ._.

[slender lodge]

it was easy but it still took the hunters 19 days

next tier will take 40 😂

[vital cove]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[hidden nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-no-no-emote-emote-nooo-emote-gif-23071619

[solar glade]

you have so much faith in us

[mortal ivy]

Thank you for breaking the pattern of the passwords and making sure we can never be sure again ❤️ ❤️

Just joking, this was a great tier. Guess we were just too focused on other clues instead

[mortal ivy]

@sharp flame We saw through the lies of the medal. We knew it to be him!

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

[vital cove]

@proud minnow is there gonna be a period of rest or can we expect an image for the next tier today, if you don't mind me asking? 😇

[mortal ivy]

Last time it was shortly after they acknowledged the password that we got a new image

As soon as the red X appears on the tfee-level2 page

Before they added the "password confirmation" check on last tier, we got the new image as soon as the password was correctly guessed

But of course, they could force us into rest by delaying the reveal of the T-1C image haha

[vital cove]

oh lmao

someone already sent an email i assume?

[timid solstice]

yes

[mortal ivy]

Yeah, it's just the click of a button and then press send in your mail app (it's prepopulated with the text)

[vital cove]

as if i have a mail app

what is this, 2013

[mortal ivy]

And I believe the fixed the To address for this tier as well

[mortal ivy]

Sorry, didn't know what to call the different "windows mail, apple mail, gmail" etc when used between devices / browsers / dekstop apps

[vital cove]

no you're right

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

[vital cove]

it just doesn't work for me properly on pc because i use gmail in a browser window

i was just being difficult about that

😛

[mortal ivy]

Oh, ok

[timid solstice]

I wouldnt mind a little rest 😴

[proud minnow]

Hi.!
Seems like you all need to recharge your batteries and take some rest, the next tiers will finally get a little bit more challenging, as per your request.!

(don't rest too long...)

[south wyvern]

[mortal ivy]

I have already rested for the last 2-3 days, but I'm not sure I'm ready for even more convoluted passwords hahah

[hidden nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

new image NOW!

[solar glade]

there is no try, just do

[sharp flame]

His birthday is in a couple of places?? Damn

[timid solstice]

1834-02-08

[sharp flame]

The . . _ . = F Block seems very likely in retrospect

also, I mightve missed this, but how does the whole Spectroscopy thing tie in with Mendeleev?

[fallen jasper]

I think Mendeleev predicted 3-5 elements, what their properties would be, and their atomic masses using Spectroscopy.

[mortal ivy]

But the worst thing is that Mendelevium does not have a visible spectrum 😦

I was looking through each and every graph of all the elements with spectrum readings at least 5 times, trying to figure it out 😅

[sharp flame]

The clue for violet light was also quite specific

not sure what that was for

[mortal ivy]

Many clues pointed towards this and I still can't really link it to Mendelevium, other than "Most element (not Md) have a spectrospocy reading on the visible light spectrum"

We got 10^-10 in X rays, we got the Lamba sign for wavelenght, with got 460 in the blue part of the spectrum, we had Ångström and his work on the spectrum

We had the 2.75-3.26eV for violet light

Pink Floyd / Prisms of course

[neon stream]

My guess, is that we were meant to look it the other way around. As in, spectroscopy pointing to Angstrom and far(dark) side of the moon > Angstrom crater on the far side of the moon > Mendeleev crater on the far side of the moon

[neon stream]

Ohh... so THAT's how the Iris Sibirica connected to this 😅

[neon stream]

(I'm not sure I removed the @ Rob, sorry. Discord should have the default to be off 😅 )

[vital cove]

we weren't just looking for Mendeleev, we were looking for the atomic structure of the element named after him. Spectroscopy is "a fundamental exploratory tool in the fields of astronomy, chemistry, materials science, and physics, allowing the composition, physical structure and electronic structure of matter to be investigated at the atomic, molecular and macro scale, and over astronomical distances" as per Wikipedia, emphasis mine

like the Democritus atomic theory clues, I think the spectography clues existed to tell us that the answer was in the atomic structure of an element

that said we never figured out what the spectrum of ultraviolet light/violet colour clue was for exactly so 🤷‍♀️

but that could just be me trying to reason backwards from the answer. it does seem like a bit of a red herring

I wrote this earlier to try and create a unified theory of how the identified clues of the first image lead to Mendelevium

*118 = periodic table = Mendeleev
Pink floyd = dark side of the moon
Luna 3 = imaging mission, so something that was first seen then, and Russian

Lunar regions named after Russian scientists involved with the periodic table after the creation of the Atlas of the Far Side of the Moon that was based on the Luna 3 mission, officially adopted by the IAU 2 years after the Luna 3 mission: Mendeleev

That's the Who. Now for the What:

460 = birthyear of Democritus, creator of atomic theory
x-X: Angstrom unit, used to measure the size of atoms and molecules
Anders Angstrom: founder of spectroscopy
Spectroscopy: "allowing the composition, physical structure and electronic structure of matter to be investigated at the atomic, molecular and macro scale"
F= block F within the periodic table

Therefore: we are identifying the measurable structure of an atom/element, located within the periodic table's block F, named after the scientist who created it, who has a crater on the far side of the Moon named after him, first identified by the Russian Luna 3 mission. *

you know, to try and get inside Rob's head, see how he thinks that these clues add up

because every tier is theoretically solvable with the very first image

[fallen jasper]

If you go into Rob's head your not going to come out in one piece.

Gonna come back out screaming about Constantinople.

[vital cove]

we're at the end of a tier that we got a lot of clues for and we now have the answer

this is the perfect time to reason backwards and try to see how everything fits together and identity a pattern in his way of thinking, how he associates clues with each other, or how he uses clues metaphorically to point in a direction

we'll see if it helps any in the next tier 😛

[solar glade]

definitely helpful to think backwards

the real challenge is critically thinking like that when it's active

[vital cove]

for example, something I think I've noticed is that he will show you an example of what he's looking for, but you have to find a different item in the same category based on the other clues. he shows you Angstrom's lunar crater, he wants you to find Mendeleev's. he shows you a roman numeral, he wants you to find another one based on that one dude's movies. he shows you an element's atomic number, it's a different one you're looking for.

the trick is identifying which clues are support clues and which are example clues

[solar glade]

agreed. i think early on this tier, we focused a lot on the "theme"

[vital cove]

yeah I thought the same thing when I said "well the last tier had meteorites, now we have lunar craters, could be a thematic association?" No, I was wrong, he doesn't have overarching themes between tiers or the types of answers he wants. they're self-contained logic puzzles