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[warm portal]

or maybe i think i have to play aroud with settings in order to play with controller

[frozen shale]

brother was absolutely shredding people in the major with the controller

[astral fox]

No it's cheating and should be banned

[rancid schooner]

Do you guys use sight on r.357 and v9S

[frozen shale]

no sight revolver. red dot v9s

[pastel sail]

I use the Horizon Hammer R .357 with no sight.

[frozen shale]

reddot on revolver feels so off. i always keep missing with the red dot

[rancid schooner]

Yeah revolver don’t need a sight I don’t think. But v9S raygun looks dumb with a sight sadly

[astral fox]

Correction they'll complain they can't use their strike packs or xim controllers to get unfair advantages and that all their precious anti-recoil and aim assist scripts will get flagged as cheating and no longer viable

[frozen shale]

raygun skin is pay to lose

[rancid schooner]

How

[frozen shale]

boy she thicc

blocks so much of the screen

[rancid schooner]

It is. I have the eclipse shade one for it and the tiger one

[frozen shale]

i love the diamond studded one from s1 i guess

[hexed girder]

My first game on in a couple of days, run into teamers

[molten sphinx]

my favorite skin in the game is the spoon skin for sledge

[rancid schooner]

What about the wooden revolver

[astral fox]

Not surprising, recent surveys and studies have shown approximately 67% of all online players in games are cheating in some way. This is across console, PC, all platforms in general

[frozen shale]

peak

[rancid schooner]

I don’t have it but might get

[nimble kelp]

Like the game

[rancid schooner]

I have the snub pistol and golden for it

[pastel sail]

Horizon Hammer revolver is my favorite skin in the game.

[astral fox]

And in this definition cheating is classified as anything used outside of the original game experience to get any form of unfair advantage - both software and hardware and includes things like reticle overlays

[rancid schooner]

What’s it look like

[marsh crane]

[pastel sail]

It's the Schofield revolver, has completely unique animations where you fan the hammer to fire.

[frozen shale]

also the season 1 snub revolver = peak

[obtuse skiff]

delete the winch rn its so bs

[rancid schooner]

I don’t have it sadly

[frozen shale]

this one

[astral fox]

I've been dumping on heavies using it with the p90 as a medium

[rancid schooner]

Oh I’m never getting that that’s like the end of s1 pass

[rancid schooner]

Interesting

[molten sphinx]

legacy passes?

[rancid schooner]

Yep

Will take like 200 hr

[molten sphinx]

really that long?

dang

[obtuse skiff]

do cashouts disappear with a minute left if they dont have cashbox in them??

[olive solar]

at 0:00 they disappear if not plugged into

[molten sphinx]

just hit plat in wt

[rancid schooner]

It takes hundreds upon hundreds of legacy tokens to complete a pass. Getting 50 alone takes a while and will barely be a dent into the pass. Most of the time you get 1 token per match, sometimes 0 and sometimes 2. Mostly 1 on average.

[obtuse skiff]

naw cause it wasnt 0:00 it was like 55 seconds left and it just disapeared off my screen as i pulled up to the building with the cashbox

[astral fox]

Do you still get tokens for going 0-12 KD and losing 10 matches in a row because solo q and stupid matchmaking?

[olive solar]

it's 0:00 normal time, overtime is different counter indicated by +X:XX

[obtuse skiff]

OT didnt happen tho

[olive solar]

dunno then gotta provide clip

[rancid schooner]

I believe so yeah. You prob will get one every 2 losses.

[obtuse skiff]

alr ill try and check rq

[olive solar]

matter movin

[molten sphinx]

what qualifies you to get a show token in a match?

[hollow basalt]

you fuckin dumbass

[astral fox]

Yeah that's kind of shit tier for spending 15-25% of the matches staring at death timers

[hollow basalt]

its 1 token every 10-15 minutes spent in a match, timer is paused between matches

[rancid schooner]

Do the snowball mode

[rancid schooner]

Is it 10 or 15

[hollow basalt]

i dont know the exact number i just know its between 10 and 15 minutes

[olive solar]

IDIOT

[hollow basalt]

have you noticed how much theyve nerfed rs gain from seasons past or am i just getting shit lobbies

[olive solar]

it's not your imagination, it's much less gain

[hollow basalt]

ok fatty how about you stop eating my fucking gains then

[olive solar]

like we needed another reason to hate ranked

[rancid schooner]

No insulting allowed in this server. Please apologize and refrain from name calling

[olive solar]

bro got styled on

[hollow basalt]

im torn man I hate the current pool of gameshow events but I hate how I cant swap between current equipment and reserve between spawns in ranked

[molten sphinx]

oh I had another question. What mode gives the most potential revives per amount of time spent playing the game?

[olive solar]

point break by far

[rancid schooner]

Prob point break

[hollow basalt]

i guess at least we're getting double jump in cashout soon so i can have the best of both worlds

[daring temple]

Did embark change the way matches were rated the season?

Every match I've played for the past couple of days has been "easy" but my trio and I are struggling to get through

[olive solar]

no, the ratings have always been meaningless dogshit indicators of how easy a match will actually be

also note it's start of season so all the rubies and diamonds are in ur gold and plat games

[daring temple]

truely unfortunate

do you know what peak hours for those top players are?

[hollow basalt]

theyre indicators of how much rs youll gain/lose in the lobby though
have they also buffed rs loss?

[olive solar]

you lose less rs for placing near bottom but this good change is offset by less rs gains for wins which they DID NOT FUCKING MENTION

[hollow basalt]

well its a constant back and forth between good and evil with this game so its to be expected

[olive solar]

night NA

play in mornings through afternoon NA to avoid most rubies, and actively avoid queueing at same time as high rank streamers

[daring temple]

idk man i'm losing 800-1200per loss and only getting positive 400-800 starting at second place

[olive solar]

I play at night bc fuck it we ball

[daring temple]

I play at night because I work full time and have no choice

[olive solar]

you'd be losing 1500 before the change 💀

[daring temple]

💀 \

[rich slate]

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please tell me what kind of mistake is this?

[olive solar]

idk I don't speak robot

[atomic seal]

-ask please reach out to our Support

[amber jacinth]

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[obtuse skiff]

i cant have fun bro every medium or heavy weapon two taps me on light

[olive solar]

yep it's a horrible time to be a new light player with BFR and repeater being rampant

[solar crag]

cheers

[obtuse skiff]

i just got one tapped by a mine i rounded a corner and died

[hollow basalt]

you do not want to play light this season SPECIALLY not as solo player

[obtuse skiff]

well now i have sunk cost fallacy where everyone tellls me not to play light but it makes me want to play light

[hollow basalt]

i mean suit yourself but you're going to suffer

[obtuse skiff]

yeah fair

i might just play heavy till im silver or smthn then try to learn light, because light is legitimately the most fun ive had while playing FPS games but only when im winning

[blazing junco]

bruh i swear these all light tdm klobbies are makin me crash out

[hollow basalt]

you can always just play light outside of ranked

[olive solar]

ur just not alive long enough to learn the game by only playing light as new player honestly

that's why I will never recommend new players to start on light even if it weren't 2 tap meta

[rich slate]

there is nothing useful on my problem. and the ticket is utter nonsense. Can't anyone here read the code of this bug and tell me what's wrong so I can fix it and go play in peace??

[olive solar]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[distant mauve]

Pregnant man react this guy

[atomic seal]

we don't offer technical support here on Discord. Support can help you investigate further on the issue. Unfortunately, it could take some time during the holidays.

[rich slate]

game shit

[obtuse skiff]

whats a good weapon to start with on heavy? i play a hammer character in overwatch so that might be that strat...

[hollow basalt]

how is the ticket nonsense

[nimble kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/letterkenny-wayne-jared-keeso-hey-not-hay-gif-10084646282504896181

[atomic seal]

[hollow basalt]

m60 is the easiest weapon to learn
bfr if you already have good aim from other shooters

[rancid zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[nimble kelp]

Is bfr boy friend rating?

[hollow basalt]

sledge is viable but youre gonna be forced to use winch with it

[obtuse skiff]

oh i have the m60 skin from s1 i forgot lowk

also is it just me or do iron sights suck on half the guns

[distant mauve]

Mesh shield and sledgehammer for that authenticity

[obtuse skiff]

i unironically had a old reinhardt coach who did that in finals and consistently hit ruby

[hollow basalt]

they do its why embark added an option to change them
some of the old ironsights didnt even line up with where the bullets went

[obtuse skiff]

would Mesh shield M60 pyro mine, dome shield, and barricade be decent?

[hollow basalt]

yes but why pyro mine lol

[obtuse skiff]

mines are stupid broken in bronze cause everyone is blind, and fire helps for stall

[hollow basalt]

actually that is a pretty standard meta loadout save for m60 instead of shak/sa12/bfr but its not like m60 is a throw pick anyway

[obtuse skiff]

wait i might try the shak it feels really good

to use, not as in OP

[hollow basalt]

well its in the top 3 weapons for heavy for a reason you may aswell

[obtuse skiff]

when i watched the grand major every heavy was using it it looked like

[hollow basalt]

well bfr was banned in the major so it was the best overall pick since sa12 requires you to be nearly hugging your enemies to do damage which isnt always possible

[obtuse skiff]

wait why was bfr banned?

[glad fulcrum]

yo i havent played since just after beta, hows the game going?

[hollow basalt]

same reason p90 was, cuz it was new

[chilly holly]

i really think old side of fenwei is so hard to use cl-40

[stable drum]

Top pick in PHL

[severe cobalt]

3k for good set, but i just gotta ask, is this a pro players bundle because of the grand major or just the finals lore stuff

[hollow basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-anakin-gif-26782869

[stable drum]

when they did open qualifiers it was before both these guns were added

[severe cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-4007877678756330230

[hollow basalt]

yeah and if it doesnt get nerfed before the next major itll be top pick there too

[stable drum]

removed*

[hollow basalt]

god if only but theyve sold skins for it so they cant take it out anymore all we can hope for is for it to get gutted (which it wont)

[rocky nimbus]

they banned bfr cause they knew it was overpowered on launch and didn't want to admit they made a mistake in releasing the weapon

[stable drum]

ikik, they can't remove any gun and they shouldn't tbh

[stable drum]

they admitted it was a design failure in the 9.0.0 patch notes

[hollow basalt]

look i agree that its broken but the reasoning for banning it was just that it was new, same with the p90

[viscid mulch]

i peed my pants guys

[hollow basalt]

adding bfr was a mistake
so were pike, repeater ||and sniper||

[rocky nimbus]

the reason is bs cause p90 was entirely fine on launch idc that it's new

[stable drum]

pike is a pass tbh, you still have to hit many more shots and aim with it

[hollow basalt]

yes but the reason both were banned was because they were new not because they were busted

[viscid mulch]

i think they shoudl remove all the weapons and make everyone fist fight

[stable drum]

sniper is alright too tbh, it's just that the no scope accuracy is too high

[hollow basalt]

had they banned weapons for being busted they wouldve banned repeater too

[stable drum]

repeater is such a no skill weapon lol

2-3-4 shots to the toe and dead

[nimble kelp]

It is the moment its close range technically

[stable drum]

it's fun at close range tho I'll give it that

[stable drum]

even at its proper range

[hollow basalt]

anyway they had a full season of no balance updates to decide what to do with both repeater and bfr and then they didnt touch repeater and only nerfed the bfr firerate by a very very tiny bit
i have no hope for balancing at least not for the next 3 seasons

at least heavies can choose between winch, mesh and goo gun now instead of only winch and goo

[hushed swan]

@cosmic apex you really need to get a job mate

[olive solar]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gg-gigi-murin-gigi-gif-513589424062622192

[nimble kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/ウマ娘-シンボリルドルフ-ルドルフ-uma-musume-symboli-rudolf-gif-6827883273481018793

[hushed swan]

Being toxic ALL game is not it. The one round i tried i outperformed you. Irdk why ppl are toxic for no reason could you lmk @cosmic apex

[nimble kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-vent-horse-gif-9563360430110643126

[olive solar]

vile creature

[stable drum]

true lol, charge is also a viable option in case people run mesh too

[hollow basalt]

god i hate gigi so much i just want to kick her into the stratosphere i dont even know why

[cosmic apex]

Who needs a job when you look me up on Discord + being delusional and turning a blind eye to the final score x)

[nimble kelp]

Now u2 kiss

[obtuse skiff]

bro this is my first game of heavy ever and its immediately 30x easier than light

already qualified for round 2

[nimble kelp]

No shit

[hollow basalt]

as a heavy the only thing you need is your teammates to put down mobility gadgets
as a light you need to pray the enemies dont have hands

[hushed swan]

Why be toxic tho i really dont get it, i wasnt trying the whole game bc its 8 in the morning i dont care, but the final round i outperformed you despite having a light who inted every fight leaving me in a 2v3

[hushed swan]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-the-finals-tf2-team-fortress-2-meme-gif-6539983010219196946

[nimble kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-the-finals-tf2-team-fortress-2-meme-gif-6539983010219196946

[obtuse skiff]

I JUST SWALLOWED MY GYM

[hollow basalt]

damn youre fatter than @olive solar

[obtuse skiff]

I MEANT GUM

[rugged mirage]

is there a ranked lfg?

[cosmic apex]

It may be the only round where you played well, while I had to carry you for two rounds, but okay, you outperformed me if you want. Now have a good day

[atomic seal]

-lfg

[amber jacinth]

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[hushed swan]

Still havent answered my question. Idc that you carried for two rounds. Why be toxic?

Calling my mum a w****e and worse is really sad i dont know why anyone would do that unprovoked tbh

[hexed imp]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-golf-slappy-happy-2000-buster-jam-rattle-baby-gif-540043104156186642

[cosmic apex]

keep crying idc of your life ❤️

[hushed swan]

????

[obtuse skiff]

W grammer in the chat

[hexed imp]

Thanks Discord

[hushed swan]

How am i crying im just asking why you called me a ret**d

[hushed swan]

I gotta stay on that, won't catch me slipping🙏

[obtuse skiff]

naw it aint you its the toxic guy

[hollow basalt]

usually im all for cringe humour but these just make me cringe with no humour
im too jaded to even laugh anymore

[olive solar]

have u seen the original vid

[obtuse skiff]

are you talking about how its mocking the mario AI game thing ?

[hollow basalt]

yes ive seen the mario one and ive seen the silent hill 2 one before that

[olive solar]

it's not mocking the original vid its just silk song version

[obtuse skiff]

well yeah but its just kinda a sarcastic version of it cause i dont think anyone took the original video seriously

[hollow basalt]

Can she go away her sister is prettier when shes not there

[olive solar]

it's gotten out of hand tbh they're just calling everything a focus M game now

[hollow basalt]

I need you to explain the context, what is a focus m game

[olive solar]

you watched the original why do u need context from me

[hollow basalt]

well what is a focus m game

[rocky nimbus]

because you're teminally online

[olive solar]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2002854369369452879

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[olive solar]

shut up ascixy I HATE you go read some yuri

[rocky nimbus]

gladly

[hollow basalt]

can you read it to me

[orchid moat]

What the hell??

[hollow basalt]

oh focus m as in thats the quote not a new term god you speak awfully

[rocky nimbus]

my voice sounds terrible so no

[hollow basalt]

oh
can you pass it at least so i can read it myself

[ornate sapphire]

socially engineered them to use the m26 at the start by annoying them with it then i just plowed them down with the m11 at the last stage lol

[olive solar]

hm I wonder if point break more time efficient for XP farming skins than tdm now that I see that scoreboard

prob not

[ornate sapphire]

i just treat it like better TDM
defending the vaults just puts them together

[rocky nimbus]

i wish i don't have a set list it'll take me a while to get everything i read

[olive solar]

u still haven't finished setting up library in the app ? slow.

[paper rapids]

I not even reached 30 kill yet and 43 hours of playtime

[tepid dagger]

need a rteam

[paper rapids]

btw I am only playing casually not interested to ranked mode or not even world tour

[hollow basalt]

take your time its not like anyones going anywhere

[hollow basalt]

Not for weapon skins but for some gadgets and specs yes

[olive solar]

very bau bau

[hollow basalt]

Although power shift remains king for some
I got 18k for barricade off of 1 power shift game today

[sweet grail]

-lfg try looking in the looking for group channels as well

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked

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Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[hollow basalt]

It's already over 50% done with just a few games today

[olive solar]

someone doesnt have ruby barricade...

[hollow basalt]

i would need to do it even if i did because im addicted to numbers going up

also it looks ugly just like you so id stick with the lvl6 one anyway

or the cns one if i ever get around to buying it

[hushed swan]

@cosmic apex LMMMMMAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO

Ur so bad😭

[fiery ore]

who cares if he is

[hushed swan]

Nah he was be toxic calling my mum a w****e

[fiery ore]

fair

[hushed swan]

Then i went against him in the next game and won 🤷

[sweet grail]

Hope your doing good out there my friend 🥂

[olive solar]

[ornate sapphire]

you know what. thats fair. id do the EXACT same thing

[fiery ore]

i'm doing good, just woke up and still laying in bed. wbu man

[ornate sapphire]

but thats stupid. AI is only good as a tool its not a horse to beat to death (not that it hasnt already)

[olive solar]

ye tell that to all the companies shoving it in our faces already

[fiery ore]

did i cook or did i shit

[sweet grail]

I’m just big vibing to some tunes about to take care of myself and move around after a snack, I’m smiling man just feeling like I’m on top of the world inside myself you know, just a real nice vibe, hope you feel the same when your out there today 🥂

[olive solar]

you are legally obligated to use ape mask with ape squad fits

[fiery ore]

i'm illegal

[waxen star]

and winch and cerberus and spear and dual blades and deagles

they had such strong class boundaries on launch and just forgot about literally all of them LOL

[fiery ore]

glad to hear you're doing good man

[peak pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/tina-nurse-ice-gif-754912540866974197

[obtuse skiff]

GUYS IM SILVER 4

[olive solar]

the higher HP classes can heal and snipe now bc why the fuck not, game design isn't real

[torpid vector]

does anyone play sword

[peak pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[paper rapids]

my 3 fav on light

[olive solar]

post nerf sword players when I move slightly to the right

[sweet grail]

Thanks man, nice to hear your doing good to even if it’s only morning for you 😂 good luck getting up and taking on the day ahead

[tender torrent]

Sniper better

[fiery ore]

luckily it's only 10.36am so i have a lot of time in the day

[tender torrent]

@last bane "where tf my blunt where tf my cup where tf my reefer" 😫😫

[sweet grail]

It’s 2 30 am for me haha, my day is ending when yours starts 😂 enjoy it

[fiery ore]

yes

[olive solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739447503115649054/1454510510908244052/snaplytics_converted_gif.gif

[obtuse skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-gif-23410458

this how i used to be moving with cloak and throwing knives

[cinder relic]

at first second i thought it was king von's armed and dangerous clip

[obtuse skiff]

part of it is

[cinder relic]

oh really

[obtuse skiff]

yeah this just clips from that one video where he has a trash can i think

[cinder relic]

i see

[obtuse skiff]

why do i feel like im being judged bro 😭

[cinder relic]

you're.

https://tenor.com/view/rick-kirby-sleep-donk-gif-6675887227732068522

[solid chasm]

hi

[obtuse skiff]

Ermm.... thats incorrect grammer. The corresponding response wouldve been "You are." Just because you're attributes to traits like "you are" does not mean it can be used like so

[cinder relic]

NO WAY ANOTHER PEAK PLAYER HERE???

[solid chasm]

yessir

[cinder relic]

nerd..

[obtuse skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-baseball-skull-gif-2348602975138218239

[cinder relic]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-game-i-am-rapidly-gif-1124097110419495085

[solid chasm]

come here

[cinder relic]

CoD gameplay

oh

well

[cinder relic]

some deserve it, so yeah, go on

[obtuse skiff]

i aint hating on people specifically but i hate people who legit give that advice when someone asks for help. happens in every game ive played where someone just goes "just shoot people lol" when someone new asks for help

[cinder relic]

i did the same on PEAK's discord server when someone said: what's the point of the game? and i am like: climb.

usually this chat is so active, and there's always a beef happening between people but now it's just like this

[obtuse skiff]

yeah, i didnt mean you specifically, im more talking about the generic weirdos who actually give that advice in other games. i didnt mean to be rude to you at all, mb

its happened SO MANYYY times in valorant

[cinder relic]

sleepy ahh contestants

[lusty spruce]

Games dead

[cinder relic]

we know

[jovial moth]

hello guys, i have a question - where can i find exact numbers of the heal speed on classes? i looked on the finals wiki and didn't find anything

[lusty spruce]

Time to pack yo bags & download cod

[cinder relic]

why would you even need those are you calculating every second

[jovial moth]

yes :3

[cinder relic]

bit pricey and the last parts are ass

[jovial moth]

just want to look at silly numbers

[cinder relic]

doesn't worth it

[cinder relic]

go watch calculator letsplay

[lusty spruce]

No! Bo7 is on sale rn! Also a guy almost tried to steal my bo7 but my car alarm alerted the police

[cinder relic]

bo7 💔

he was trying to save you

from playing ts

[lusty spruce]

yeah right

metacritic gave more score to bo7 than crappy bf6

[cinder relic]

never trust metacritic

ass games are getting 75+ scores bruh

[lusty spruce]

sorry but i only trust ign & metacritic reviews! They’re the only reliable gaming media in market rn

[cinder relic]

https://tenor.com/view/ahem-shit-loser-seriously-gif-5731140

your name says it all lmao

[tawdry marsh]

IGN has about one banger review for every ten awful ones, and I genuinely don’t know how

[cinder relic]

indeed

[tawdry marsh]

I’m still mad that Eurogamer gave Arc Raiders an intentionally bad review for the AI voices alone even though the gameplay was genuinely good

[stoic veldt]

No way bro trust IGN and Metacritic over People voices. 💀

[high pier]

cant wait for them to find out they didn't just use ai for the voices but also the visual design (meaning they also used it for the art)

[cinder relic]

everyone burst when they found out that arc raiders used AI and the first thing they thought about is a generative AI, but not the one that controls npcs or something

[high pier]

it does use generative ai though -_-

[cinder relic]

clair obscur used too but how much people burst? almost zero

fucking double standards

[tawdry marsh]

I’m just pissed at the non-equal treatment, Embark deserved better. Black Ops 7 got a 3/5 without a single mention of generative AI in the actual review itself… until it got a dedicated article related to the blatantly obvious AI created calling cards

[cinder relic]

no way you guys really like bo7

[tawdry marsh]

I think BO7 is honestly whatever. Tried it, thought it was fine, moved on. The campaign was next level bad though

Like… actually bad writing

[cinder relic]

the campaign is just something from another world, the worst world could ever exist..

[obtuse skiff]

do people know what generative AI is????

this is not generative AI at all, more like a linear coding logic that uses text to speech based off the coding logic

the psuedo code would look like: if variable(kingfish) are eliminated first, have variable(scotty) read out "and the kingfish are out of the arena early, folks!". thats really oversimplified but it really isnt ai at all

[floral mirage]

AI that generates voice lines is genAI

[obtuse skiff]

its TTS, not AI. unless you consider all text to speech AI

in which case AI has existed for over a decade

[floral mirage]

Yes

[cinder relic]

sometimes on finals matches i hear female voices that sound so fucking cursed, like too high pitched

[obtuse skiff]

thats some bs logic imo, but i get your point

[floral mirage]

Does it matter what it is, it's ethical so who cares. They're paying VAs to sample

[obtuse skiff]

yeah, i just get pissed that people call it "blatant use of generative AI" and dont play cause of that.

[floral mirage]

Pretty sure they also AI generate stickers and then an artist touches them up

But every live service game is doing that now

[serene river]

Irritating

[obtuse skiff]

where did you hear that? ive never heard of something like that

[cinder relic]

just imagine, people aren't playing the game cuz of one AI generated texture that they probably couldn't even see and notice

[tawdry marsh]

Embark being at least reasonably ethical about it is a good thing. I wish they were a little more transparent about their usage. On Steam, it’s simply “During the development process, we may use procedural- and AI-based tools to assist with content creation. In all such cases, the final product reflects the creativity and expression of our own development team.” That doesn’t say much.

[floral mirage]

Nothing confirmed nor denied. Mostly rumors on reddit but the sticker examples they show genuinely do seem too fake to not be AI

[obtuse skiff]

i mean the main thing people get pissed about is the AI voice actors, since its the most popular, when its just TTS. The same thing stephen hawking uses to communicate, the same thing twitch streamers have that read out donos

[floral mirage]

Yep purposefully vague, at least they have a disclaimer. Games like bf6 don't even give that

[floral mirage]

That's a different TTS

Modern systems use machine learning in their TTS

[obtuse skiff]

I mean not as sophisticated but it really is kinda similar. embark isnt having the systems generate AI voicelines mid game even tho thats what people think for some reason

[floral mirage]

genAI doesn't always mean realtime lmao, and I don't think that's what people think. If they do, they're stupid

[serene river]

Are servers up?
And why is everyone on quick cash a noob

[obtuse skiff]

people do think that

[floral mirage]

Petition to rename New Jersey to 2b2t

[peak pilot]

….. it’s literally the ‘Noob’ starting point

[floral mirage]

Then they're stupid ig, can't expect more from gamers lmao

[obtuse skiff]

yeah fair enough

[serene river]

Ohhh, first time playing the mode. Didn't know lol

[cinder relic]

who tf calls themself "gamers" that sounds so fucking millenial

[floral mirage]

who tf did

[cinder relic]

im talking in general

[serene river]

Hmm
What are they called these days

[heavy hull]

gamers

[serene river]

Gameurs

[floral mirage]

Ew that sounds french

[obtuse skiff]

competitive not athletic competitiors that are competitive

[serene river]

Gamrata
Gameena

[heavy hull]

gaming is pretty athletic

[floral mirage]

gamora

[olive solar]

beat saber

[obtuse skiff]

my whole school hates the esports team cause it aint athletic 🥀 fym bro

[heavy hull]

youre lucky you even have one

my schools mr team is gm minimum

[floral mirage]

My hs didn't have sports cus magnet school. So basically filled with grass allergic people, no wonder our esports team rolled everyone

[obtuse skiff]

you talking about college?

[heavy hull]

yes

my college team is gm 🤮

[floral mirage]

What is gm

[lusty spruce]

grandmother

[olive solar]

goo masters

[floral mirage]

Idk what my uni is, where do you check

[heavy hull]

you could ask

[floral mirage]

ekazo

[obtuse skiff]

our esports team for like rocket league and overwatch lowk havent been bad for 3 years in a row

[floral mirage]

Meh too lazy

[obtuse skiff]

i lowk wanna ask the esports league director for the finals cause i know him pretty well

[floral mirage]

Idk what we're even called, it's just UGA esports or something idk

[floral mirage]

U should, we need more people on this game

[obtuse skiff]

thats kinda the problem, theres gonna be like 3/50 schools who have enough people who play the game to compete

[floral mirage]

Unfortunate

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-skeleton-gif-25954239

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1427256238651084895/1454560711333380106/5433-pepo-walking.gif

[wheat sandal]

arc raider mfs when they obtain a shotgun that looks like it was crafted by a toxic/racist RUST player in a real life apocolypse ( It has good stats tho)

[gleaming moss]

The honeymoon phase of new season is fading and the cracks are showing

[floral mirage]

The cracks were always showing

[gleaming moss]

It got worse than ever sadly

[heavy hull]

cracks of arc raiders being the smarter move for embark to focus on

[floral mirage]

This was the weakest season launch in finals history, worse than season 3

[gleaming moss]

• holidays xd

[forest saddle]

Meow

[floral mirage]

no

[gleaming moss]

Yeah idc I'm not really playing the finals anymore, arc is nice

[forest saddle]

Why not

[heavy hull]

i only play arc when i have friends and finals when im alone thats my balance

[floral mirage]

yes

[gleaming moss]

Fair enough, yeah I don't know anyone who wants to play the finals either xD

[heavy hull]

i dont enjoy arc as much since its so stupidly buggy

[forest saddle]

I'm gonna report you to ichikawa-san

[floral mirage]

Arc is good but been busy with game dev recently so no gaming

[heavy hull]

i just play to bullshit and lose gear with friends

[forest saddle]

What are you developing

[floral mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-blown-away-blown-back-gif-22009589

[neat spear]

soo uhhh the other day i saw someone using Pistol, but his running animations had the pistol over shoulder instead, what does that?

[peak pilot]

Completely random ahh message BUT. U guys gotta try and watch the new movie on Netflix called The Great flood(not the biblical one). It’s really touching 😭. Really sad too

[floral mirage]

It was lowk kinda weird, my mom liked it tho

[neat spear]

[peak pilot]

It was trippy at first but then when I figured out what was going on I was like DAMN!!!

[floral mirage]

Yeah but also I think the cinematography was weird lol, idk I care about the stupid stuff too much

[heavy hull]

probably v9s skin

[peak pilot]

What didn’t u like about it ? Honestly thought the confusion cut away was on purpose to make u feel as confused as the main character was.

[gleaming moss]

Yeah didn't quite understand what u mean or what the issue is

[neat spear]

yeah but which one

[heavy hull]

battlepass one

[neat spear]

i want the animations

[heavy hull]

just look in some old bps and youll see it

[neat spear]

it looked cool to me

[heavy hull]

skin exclusive

[floral mirage]

Ig that worked, I just don't like being confused ig. Also that weird orange vfx was dumb imo

[neat spear]

dont care, i just want the animations i will use the skin i just wanted to know which one is

[heavy hull]

look in an old battle pass

[forest saddle]

Chat, what is your favourite voiceline in the finals

[neat spear]

okie dokie

[peak pilot]

I guess I can give u the vfx part lol. Honestly I thought it was just gonna be a disaster movie. Was happy surprised

[forest saddle]

WRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

What about "Throwing a sonar" 🗣️

[floral mirage]

Prob that orf nade skin voice lines tbh

[forest saddle]

Or "Gooing things up" 🗣️

Or "Honey, I'm home" 🗣️

[forest saddle]

Do u have any clips

[floral mirage]

Uhh lemme YouTube it ig

[gleaming moss]

U can also test the voice lines if u are in game and keep pressing the animations for the nade

But it's a bit much for me + who uses nade lol

[floral mirage]

https://youtu.be/qsaoR0_wHA0?si=hFKABMnEkgER3qUf

[wicked tulip]

Servers so good that the guy I'm shielding with my body and healing dies before me

[peak pilot]

Obviously didn’t try hard enough. Do better

[livid sedge]

Ks23 with anti grav is like skeet shooting

[tulip forge]

ig

[livid sedge]

Yall are my clay pigeons now

[tulip forge]

lol

bro playing duck hunt on the snes

[livid sedge]

Ya gotta try it

[peak pilot]

Wut if I just do this

[vale laurel]

yo why am i getting "an unknown error occured" when i try to link my stupid account to my ps5

[tulip forge]

nah

[peak pilot]

Is that real

[tulip forge]

yeah

[livid sedge]

Peak as hell

[floral mirage]

hevy is my fav class

[tulip forge]

heavy is boring imo

[livid sedge]

Heavy is the most enjoyable class right now

[tulip forge]

i main medic medium but i agree the heavy is the strongest atm

[peak pilot]

BRO HOW😭 UR GREEN!!! Ur telling u haven’t PLAYED HEAVY OVER 8 times since u STARTED!!

[tulip forge]

i like movement options.
just is what it is

[livid sedge]

You can play like 8 different playstyles on heavy whereas medium and light are really funneled

[livid sedge]

Goo gun anti grav C&S boost jumping

[neat spear]

it was the six one

[tulip forge]

nah im alright man

[neat spear]

[livid sedge]

Youre missing out homie

[peak pilot]

grave cube is peak finals fun tho 😭

[tawdry marsh]

I think I can agree with that. Light feels like Dash + Weapon + Glitch is consistently the flavor of the month. Medium is definitely mostly Healing + Mobility + Defib since Demat got nerfed. Not the only way to play, but definitely outstandingly common compared to other options.

[tulip forge]

just not fun
so nah im alright

but i will agree that medium and light have about 3 playstyles rn

[peak pilot]

I guess i should have guess ur as stiff as board

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-jake-gyllenhal-nightcrawler-laughing-creep-gif-2704855846335329126

[tulip forge]

"If it's not fun, why bother "

-Reggie

[livid sedge]

Yeah this is definitely mediums worst feeling season, especially when you get lobbies with the repeater and have to switch or get run over

[tulip forge]

medic med will always be meta so

[peak pilot]

No one got the joke

[livid sedge]

It was kind of dead in the s7 meta

[tulip forge]

if you say so

[tawdry marsh]

I don’t think Medium feels bad imho, just uninspired. I’m actually a huge fan of the medic vibes even if it’s overwhelmingly common. Although, yes, Repeater is definitely a little on the strong side

[livid sedge]

Embark seems to think its fine since its been top dog for like 3 seasons now

I much preferred pike, at least when you got close to the pike player they'd panic

[peak pilot]

Hitscan sniper that isnt sniper fun times yes

[tawdry marsh]

Maybe it’ll get an adjustment in the mid-season, I could see at least a tweak to start

[heavy hull]

Like pike when it 3 shotted you or when it got nerfed to only 3 shot you or when it got buffed again to 3 shot you?

[gleaming moss]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[lean hazel]

Hello chat

How are you all doing?

[livid sedge]

Yeah i never really hated it all that much

[tawdry marsh]

Yeah, you’re right. I’m coping. This is Embark we’re talking about.

[sweet grail]

Hey best milk, hope your doing well today 🥂

[uncut path]

i got ruby in chinals finaly dude

[gleaming moss]

We are all coped out the wazoo in here

[livid sedge]

Mid season patch will nerf dagger and tracking dart for some reason

[lean hazel]

I'm well sir, I hope you're doing even better than me.
How are you this fine evening?
🥂

[tawdry marsh]

“So the Spear has seen quite the uptick in usage recently… we’ve made some adjustments to reflect this…”

[lean hazel]

"We noticed a good amount of players were playing melee and enjoying it, so we decided to remove it from the game."

[livid sedge]

We've seen an uptick in the usage of mgl so we've decided to make some changes (its nerfed into the ground)

[sweet grail]

I appreciate the thought, I had a really chill day and I’m doing great, just relaxing and about to get cozy in bed soon

[vale laurel]

anyone know about this??

[gleaming moss]

I am honestly getting so tired of complaining at embark thankfully a quick glance on game feedback, shows that it's the new norm (and rightfully so)

[tawdry marsh]

This was genuinely how it felt when Sledgehammer got that huge initial nerf (before the re-buff). My friend who’s a Sledge main was distraught.

[wicked tulip]

Apparently lmao, didn't know AK had AP bullets

[lean hazel]

Neat I was just binging anime.
Recently started getting into bleach again and just finished the soul society arc. Liked it a lot and it still holds up.

[gleaming moss]

We added winch to the game so now we have no grasp on how to balance anything, but let's vault thermal vision for a year

[tawdry marsh]

I do wonder how the new Thermal Vision will work…

[lean hazel]

I think I understand why Bleach is dropped so much.
Cause what do you mean theres 45 fucking episodes of filler RIGHT after you finish the soul society arc 😭

[stable drum]

No AA is basically thermal vision lol

[gleaming moss]

True

Invis doesn't work at all lol

[wicked tulip]

It'd be cool if it was akin to Glaz's sniper in R6, the more you move, the less you see, forcing lights to stay still more often

[sweet grail]

Old but still gold, I haven’t seen bleach since I watched it through once years ago, awesome to hear it still holds up hope you have been enjoying it, sounds relaxing

[tawdry marsh]

I do love Embark for making this game, 100%, and I do wish them the best (most of my heavy complaints are satire). But they also do sometimes deserve some criticism for how they handle things for sure.

[wicked tulip]

Anti Aliasing skews your vision? Didn't know that

[livid sedge]

Its gonna work alot like recon senses does now

[stable drum]

Also... we're in for a poke meta forever.
BFR got a joke of a "nerf" thereof.
Repeater is untouched.

[gleaming moss]

This used to be my favorite game, by far. Now I am resenting it more and more every season

[tulip forge]

depends
but no AA is raw pixles on your screen, looks like shit
hut is technically the best setting if you really care

[stable drum]

no, it just makes cloak more visible when the cloaked player moves

[wicked tulip]

Might start to don't use AA then lmao

[tulip forge]

jesus i can't spell, had a few tonight

[lean hazel]

Yeah it's a good show when you don't have some bitch in your ear telling you it's mid.
I wanna catch up in time for the TYBW and form my own opinion on the series

[livid sedge]

Everything is viable right now the problem is when you play against repeater it really doesnt feel like it

[gleaming moss]

Invis

[tulip forge]

idk it looks really bad i just use these settings
i think it looks good enough

[lean hazel]

I dropped bleach when i was a kid right after finishing the soul society arc because i didn't know what filler was back then

[stable drum]

click on someone 3 times at range and they die, no spray control or tracking required, rinse, repeat

[tulip forge]

iv stopped complaining about this point

[lean hazel]

I was sad I never got to saw that ninja ostrich in naruto return either

[wicked tulip]

Oh fuck, i think i left motion blur on even though now I finally have more than 144hz

[lean hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-gif-19412955

My goat

[tawdry marsh]

I’ve generally enjoyed each new season launch, BUT I understand why some people aren’t. New content has slowed down and balance changes are much less frequent so the game is starting to stagnate.

[tulip forge]

using freesync/gsync

[gleaming moss]

Play arc raiders
Complain at the finals

[wicked tulip]

Nope, why, what does it do?

[livid sedge]

Its the lack of new content coupled with their repeated claims of having new content for years to come

[tulip forge]

https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/

[stable drum]

game is super balanced outside of that shitty poke meta

[livid sedge]

Its like yeah if I release one new item every 6 months I could pad out a game for 7 years

[lean hazel]

I'd rather fight s1 model again than deal with this poke meta

[tulip forge]

winch and the poke meta are boring

[wicked tulip]

Fuck the V9S

[livid sedge]

Ill take end of s2 throwing knives meta again

[vale laurel]

dude is there some fucking customer service shit i can contact, im literally not able to link my stupid account from steam to ps5 because of "an unknown error" and its not anything on my end

[tulip forge]

lryd likr not tdo that again

[gleaming moss]

Yes fk repeater and bfr I agree

[floral mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1427256238651084895/1454774542319751188/pepe-chicken-pepe-korean-fried-chicken.gif

[wicked tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[stable drum]

yawns real

[tulip forge]

i should get some sleep

[livid sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-reading-gif-18060591

[wicked tulip]

BFR is only 5 bullets and punishes for missing way more than the v9s at least

[lean hazel]

Winch is one of the worst things to happen in the finals tbh

[tulip forge]

i got back from my buddies earlier, built a pc, for him.

but nah i was saying the winch and poke meta is boring af atm

[gleaming moss]

Good that half the player base is 5x ruby so they don't miss with it

[wicked tulip]

Fuck rubies in general lmao

[tulip forge]

even if all winch did was move cashout
it'd stil be S tier

[stable drum]

LH1 with no recoil and no skill required to use effectively

[livid sedge]

Heavy isnt really all that punished though, they have dome and heal ball to sit inside not to mention the 350 health pool

[gleaming moss]

Well on a serious note many of them are trash, but just crutch 3 man vs silver solo queuers

[livid sedge]

Realistically they have like 7 shots before theyre truly dead from shit aim

[stable drum]

yup, but in a good way

[livid sedge]

But light sniper needed to be nerfed guys

[wicked tulip]

Health isn't much of a concern tbh if you play your role accordingly, of course if you don't move and try to outgun a heavy at mid range as a light, that will get you killed

[heavy hull]

Well because the bfr does more damage has more effective range and a better hs damage

[wicked tulip]

Nah, LH1 has recoil and visual recoil and is loud af

[stable drum]

no scope accuracy maybe, not damage

[gleaming moss]

Yes, I don't want to use goo, mesh, dome shield, barricades, brain or positioning, nerf sniper

[livid sedge]

Lh1 visual recoil gives me actual headaches

[stable drum]

that was my description of the V9S
a gun that cannibalizes the LH1

[merry timber]

I swear to god if i get paid 1000 dollars for every enemy team who exploit the strat of pulling the damn Grand Vault to the Red wall and just camp behind it...I would have become a freaking millionaire

[wicked tulip]

Aaaah, yeah, make the dmr less effective than the 9mm on every aspect, that sounds about right

[stable drum]

shoot the gun once and find yourself looking at the sky lmao

[merry timber]

and embark say they fix it LOL much lie much wow

[stable drum]

CSGO logic be like

[tulip forge]

s7/8 and now 9 have been fucking bland

[livid sedge]

It was "bad" for powershift, which was really just code for people not wanting to change their playstyles for the mode

[tulip forge]

im still playing but damn

[wicked tulip]

I liked season 7 personally, but it was the season when I got really back into it after S3 so... Kinda skewed

[livid sedge]

I feel like a drug addict some times, I just need my fix

[gleaming moss]

The only thing that keeps me logging onto finals is the fomo to collect skins for the potential day when the game becomes good again, coped out

[livid sedge]

Maximum cope

[tulip forge]

i stil play the game because i like it
but yeah the poke meta for two seasons and almost no content

lack of proper balance patches especially

[livid sedge]

At the very least they could've shaken up the meta put some fresh shit at the top so the team comps and playstyles change

[wicked tulip]

I mean, CS2 has a gigantic peeker's advantage and shittier servers than CSGO for some reasons... BF6 is 70 bucks... CoD is 300go... The Finals has the light, I'm taking the lesser evil 💀

[gleaming moss]

Yea gotta make cod 300gb so people don't have space to play actual good games

[livid sedge]

Yeah the finals ruined fps for me and when its not hitting I just dont play fps anymore

[wicked tulip]

Ive heard enough, give 50 more bullets to the M11

[livid sedge]

Unironically would go hard

[tulip forge]

make winch a cashout moving grapple hook
make the bfr do about 15% less damage at range
make repeater to do 84 as body
add a way to look behinding it for you

[stable drum]

The Finals has its unique gameplay, break anything you want and interact with the environment and gadgets, true sandbox experience

[wicked tulip]

Would be a fucking nightmare but it'd be fun

[vale laurel]

yo so im a returning player, what is this "playstyle" thing i see? is it literally just preset

[gleaming moss]

Yup!

[wicked tulip]

Presets that give you a bunch of gadgets and weapons for free

[vale laurel]

okok

[livid sedge]

Im very used to dueling the m11 from a year straight of quick cash

[stable drum]

Make it the drum mag PPsH-41 atp

[wicked tulip]

yeah, now I just stop moving and mow them down with the fcar cuz that gun fucks

[livid sedge]

Ppsh would go crazy on medium

[tulip forge]

AKM all day

[wicked tulip]

Would be too P90ish

[stable drum]

80 dmg for repeater tbh

[livid sedge]

They missed the chance for ppsh

[wicked tulip]

I love the AKM, but sometimes, I need raw dmg

[tulip forge]

something like that

[livid sedge]

The ks23 is the light delete button right now, good because a bunch of pro players have been ruining point break so I gotta set them straight

[wicked tulip]

I prefer the flamethrower, makes me feel like I'm killing mosquitoes or wasps

Propane and propane accessories

[livid sedge]

There are few weapons I hate more than the flamethrower

[drowsy ridge]

I got 50 kills in my game

[tulip forge]

damn

[livid sedge]

Maybe one man army pro noob tube would rank higher in hate

[tulip forge]

ranked would be fun if it wasn't 3v3v3v3

[wicked tulip]

As long as lights exist, i'll be there to make their lives as miserable as I can, weither it'd be with a CL40, a repeater or a flamer, i'll be there

Also i don't really like shotguns cuz I feel like they have a weird lag in their shooting

[drowsy ridge]

Just kiding i got 20 kills

[wicked tulip]

I mean, in a cashout, it's not impossible

[livid sedge]

I wouldve liked to see quick cash get a tournament circuit but I doubt itd ever happen

[drowsy ridge]

I't was in cashout

[tulip forge]

any mode with mroe then 2 teams is more RGN then skill ]

[livid sedge]

The 2 team modes in this game just arent up to Snuff, powershift maybe but its strongly antithetical to the identity of the game

[tulip forge]

head to head should be ranekd

or powershift

[wicked tulip]

I sure do love to be ganked by 2 teams of 3 lights each for 10 min

[gleaming moss]

For me 3v3v3v3 is the main game, 3v3 is just boring, although it may be more balanced, at the end of the day I play for fun

[livid sedge]

Head to head would not be a great viewing experience

[tulip forge]

its balanced tho

[vague siren]

I miss season man 1 bring it back dam it

[lean hazel]

i wish flamethrower wasn't so boring to play
I only play it when my brain is too numb after playing too much mgl and don't feel like thinking

[wicked tulip]

Make place for season women 2

[livid sedge]

When your numb is too numb?

[lean hazel]

fixed it 😭😭

[vague siren]

First two seasons were magic now it's just meh

[wicked tulip]

First season was unbalanced af though

Fun, but sooooo unbalanced, like dmg was fucking crazy on every weapon

[livid sedge]

Flamethrower could be such a cool weapon

[edgy river]

what's so special about this heaven or else skin that it's legendary? seriously

[wicked tulip]

Temporary gamemode i guess?

[edgy river]

not really, they always tiered weapon properly, the hell version of it makes your gun burn more

[wicked tulip]

Also it's holtow, which makes it better than everything else (beside ospuze)

[lean hazel]

tru it could have so many unique interactions with the environment giving it more strategic use.
But instead it's just the scrub stomper or weapon heavies use when that one light is pissing them off

[wicked tulip]

Hard counter to goo tho!

And gas

[lean hazel]

it faster to destroy goo than to burn it tho.
If you're stealing for example burning goo gives you MORE time to steal

[livid sedge]

Its also just a melee counter pick with absolutely 0 skill required

[lean hazel]

its good if the enemy has a goo fort but a single fire barrel can do that too

[lean hazel]

yeah that too add that to the list of fuck melee lmao

[gleaming moss]

Yup flamethrower is for sure the least skilled weapon in the game lol, on the least skilled class, can't get much worse

[livid sedge]

Well the idea of the goo fort is to set it aflame

[vague siren]

Yeah it was unbalanced but it was fun yeah like what the fuck is this game now I don't like it bring back s1 vibes please and thank you

[livid sedge]

They could make it perform more like a real flamethrower and it would be a much more skillful weapon

[lean hazel]

Heavy isn't that hard but that title goes to medium.
It's literally advertised as the starter class and has the best balance of mobility and health of light and heavy.

[wicked tulip]

Bring back the 70 meter range of the hammer lmao

[drowsy ridge]

I'm going to play cashout now

[lean hazel]

wym i'm still hitting people through walls with hammer overhead

[edgy river]

legendary skin always have either unique model or unique texture (no matter how insignificant it is). i remember seeing in heaven or else that the preview has cracks on skin

[wicked tulip]

Still not fixed?! I thought it was in S6 bruh

[lean hazel]

we still have the sprint glitch and you're surprised?

[livid sedge]

Heavy is far easier though, naturally its gonna be a lot easier to tank with shields a heal ball a big health bar than to get into the finer understanding of positioning and movement

[wicked tulip]

Cuz it's HOLTOW

[kindred lynx]

Die. Horribly it's the worst melee weapon, which makes it the worst weapon in the game, if they nerf it, I got nothing else for ranked

[wicked tulip]

And still have the backstab dash... 🥲

[versed ore]

it might be reactive, I don't remember though.

[gleaming moss]

Thx for writing that for me xD

[edgy river]

the reactive might be bugged ngl. cuz i remember seeing cracks on the preview skin on the contracts

[vague siren]

Bring it all back ffs lol

[lean hazel]

heavy is more punishing than medium due to it's restrictive movement. More health doesn't make it a get out of a jail card.
With medium's mobility and gadgets i can easily escape situations that heavy couldn't.
Plus it's just much easier to get into

Also positioning movement is learned by everyy class

[wicked tulip]

And mobility will always be better than health

[edgy river]

really don't have any effect despite having shot it a lot.

[gleaming moss]

It has nothing to do with better, we talking what's easiest. And that's heavy, esp when u can pick stuff like dome and flamethrower to crutch your way out of situations with 0 skill

[lean hazel]

Also heres a clip of me killing someone a second after swinging my hammer

[livid sedge]

Sure id agree with you that medium is the best class for repositioning and evading, but the counter point is it is harder to punish a heavy because of their wide swath of defensive tools, i mean just throwing dome shield is a get out of jail free card 9 out of 10 times

[kindred lynx]

The humble 4000 hp-worth of dome shield:

[gleaming moss]

Even my color blind friend who sucks at fps games and almost never kills anything in shooters, was doing good on heavy flamethrower at launch

[wicked tulip]

I'd say that medium is the easiest to start with cuz it's your basic shoot shoot support guy, but heavy can be the easiest for some people in that he has the frontline kit

[cedar flare]

What up gamers and Gabe Newell lovers

[lean hazel]

P90 is boderline just as easy as flamethrower while actually being a good weapon.
Not to mention that medium can escape situations more easily than heavy.
A mistake with heavy will cost it more than a medium

[wicked tulip]

Comes a point where that value of HP makes it more or less invincible 😭

[kindred lynx]

Obviously, that's the easiest to master, you've only got movement to worry about afterwards

[wicked tulip]

Fr tho, it's stupid good

[livid sedge]

We can agree that light is the least noob friendly class

[lean hazel]

Medium is literally encouraged almost universally to be used first because it's so easy to use.
Every time I taught someone the game (mostly @devout spade ) we just tell them to play medium

edit: forgot to reply @gleaming moss

[cedar flare]

That class ain't friendly at all

[wicked tulip]

Oh god, we need a gamemode like that, juggernaut heavy with 4000hp against a team of mediums

[lean hazel]

That is tru

[edgy river]

fire effect should stack up to 3 times per tick honestly to make FT actually viable

[gleaming moss]

Yep that's my whole point

There is basically nothing to master, you press 2 buttons and win or lose

[edgy river]

also when did they push out a hotfix where snowball blitz finally don't have forced default cosmetics?

[wicked tulip]

Agreed, but the weapons ironically makes it the most attractive to new players cuz they get their kill then die and they're happy (just like scout in TF2 lmao)

[livid sedge]

Its definitely an apples to oranges deal here, some people will find medium more intuitive some people will find heavy more intuitive

[devout spade]

https://tenor.com/view/for-thousands-of-years-i-laid-dormat-gif-21763824

[lean hazel]

why the fuck are you awake

[livid sedge]

That was me until I got my grubby fingers on the mgl

[cedar flare]

Go back to sleep boi

[devout spade]

I was on a date and just got home lmfao

[lean hazel]

bruh
its almost 6am

[wicked tulip]

The humble 2tap of the db

[devout spade]

I have insomnia anyways

[cedar flare]

Boi go sleep

[lean hazel]

no u

[cedar flare]

Im awake already

[devout spade]

Im kinda hungry now tho so imma snack before I sleep

[livid sedge]

Back in my day all the lights were running db with invis

[devout spade]

And I do mean have nachos

[devout spade]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[cedar flare]

Watch out sign for toilets

[wicked tulip]

Back in my day it was db dash, not fun either to fight

[cedar flare]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-laughing-reverse-reverse-card-reverse-uno-gif-3758578067338957449

[gleaming moss]

Ahh ok snowball stage 2 is locked, right, back to arc raiders 0 reason to play sadge

Good job devs

[cedar flare]

It still there tho

[livid sedge]

Point break hits sometimes

[cedar flare]

That game mode is unbalanced as fk

[gleaming moss]

Am on my grandfather's PC not so tempting to try hard on finals

[wicked tulip]

There's one single reason to play: total light anihilation. kill lights, behead lights, curbstomp lights, dropkick lights into a woodchipper

[gleaming moss]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[rose storm]

chat I just made a peak THE FINALS sticker

[cedar flare]

https://tenor.com/view/mogi-mogi-cet-mogi-fren-fren-ada-peepo-gif-12529637841348568101

[gleaming moss]

I am the light, sorry we made you suffer so much

[livid sedge]

They fixed them pulling the station out of the map but now they just pull it to the edge and camp with repeaters out of bounds 🥀

[cedar flare]

Yo jinko

[lean hazel]

first tdm match and this is my team i cri

[cedar flare]

Yeah at this point make the whole map accessible

[wicked tulip]

I wish terrible things upon you and your sniper Jinko

[rose storm]

why

[wicked tulip]

Cuz light

[devout spade]

Im not #skillissue#getclipfarmed#shadowwizardmoneygang#welovecastingspells

[cedar flare]

Aw come on jinko u hav failed the vibe check

[wicked tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[gleaming moss]

My grandpa got a 3060 and an i7 11700F, who got a worse PC than him ?

[livid sedge]

I would be happy if theyd just remove sys horizon from the pool that map plays like shit

[wicked tulip]

Woe, flamer be upon yee

[rose storm]

I don't count

[cedar flare]

I also hav unending hatred for lights 🤝

[uneven scroll]

syshorizon was the most popular map in the majors right?

hello John Jinko from the hit youtube channel Jinko

[cedar flare]

Oh i get what u mean

[livid sedge]

Idk im only referring to point break

[wicked tulip]

A light is a light

[uneven scroll]

oh peanut butter... i didnt read up LMAO

[rapid girder]

This fat fucking cat

[rose storm]

wat

[wicked tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-belly-rub-gif-8421087136581332365

[livid sedge]

If it was the most popular its because it plays well into the strengths of repeater and arn

[cedar flare]

Yes u hav failed the vibe check

[wicked tulip]

ngl, I just think it's a good map with good visibility yet varied terrains

and then there's kyoto...

[livid sedge]

Jinko when are you gonna make a video validating only my feelings on the finals

[solid linden]

what is this garbage matchmaking?getting matched in gold with pro players from esports teams

[rose storm]

finals videos don't get views 😔

[wicked tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[livid sedge]

Game is big dead rn

[cedar flare]

Btw we need a marketing strategy for this game.....

[lean hazel]

mfers say this every season but always come back

[gleaming moss]

Man the trial skin for arc raiders so damn bad this season

[livid sedge]

The strategy is dont let embark market a game

[rose storm]

I meant my finals videos don't get views anymore
Other youtubers do great

[wicked tulip]

yeah but if it's only the same 30k mfs, it will dwindle at some point

[lean hazel]

Thats what they always say too

[cedar flare]

They burnt the marketing ngl that people know The FINALS through edits

[livid sedge]

Theres what only appoh lol

[gleaming moss]

Appoh lol, was a cool guy until the sword situation

[wicked tulip]

I mean, crack is crack, so we come back

[lean hazel]

also ronin, truce, and that shotgun guy

[livid sedge]

Sanguine?

Ronin probably gets good numbers too

[main portal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-if-im-not-silly-enough-gif-403813961331369878

[gleaming moss]

Only Ottr can make finals great again

[livid sedge]

I dont think embark could market food to the starving

[rose storm]

more like ronin

[upbeat vigil]

Is there an lfg?

[rose storm]

-lfg

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania: #lfg-oce-casual • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America: #lfg-sa-casual • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[livid sedge]

I forgot about him

[gleaming moss]

Yes, you have a 1% chance of finding good players there

[main portal]

you have a 100% chance of finding a silly goose here

[livid sedge]

I don't think embark could market blood to vampires

[gleaming moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-well-played-congratulations-congrats-you-win-this-time-gif-22916807

[lean hazel]

yeah him

[livid sedge]

Im gonna keep coming up with bits until morale improves

[main portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-carlos-casagrande-the-casagrandes-screaming-screech-gif-20241327

[livid sedge]

Gilly Soose

[vital pier]

My sibling drew me a moolah

[main portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1263831537808572477/moolah_Summer.gif

[cedar flare]

Ouch......that hurted

[cedar flare]

Somebody get an ambulance......for embark

[livid sedge]

They got arc raiders now

[gleaming moss]

Finals the ugly stepchild

[cedar tide]

dont you just hate it when a teamate leaves in a ranked tourney. and you hada really gud shot tooo. and that happens like numerously and now your bronze so you start crashing out then you go to the THE FINALS discord to get teamates but they dont want you to team with them becuz your bronze and your unskilled so you start losing your mind cuz your rank is still doodoo and you its not your fault...

[livid sedge]

They dont need us anymore

[main portal]

i wonder how long that will survive before they drive people away from that game too?

[gleaming moss]

Their team seems to be much less lost than the finals team

[cedar flare]

My daily dose of point break

[main portal]

i'm happy for you or i'm sorry that happened. i aint readin all that

[livid sedge]

Im surprised enough they got success from a game in a dying format

[gleaming moss]

It barely feels like an extraction shooter

In a good way

Very casual friendly

[main portal]

is that what it is? and people acting like its gold or something? didnt cod try that and it flopped hard?

[livid sedge]

Idk i couldn't play it i was so bored I fell asleep mid game in the beta and when I woke up I was still alive

[half lantern]

itll be much more healthier than the finals because they are actually giving it resources like advertising etc

[gleaming moss]

And with the aggression based matchmaking that has basically never been done before it's great

[cedar frigate]

i genuinely don’t see how they could kill arc raiders

[livid sedge]

Youd be surprised

[cedar flare]

Lets see how it goes for marathon, cuz it looks good but looks ain't the only thing that keeps a game running

[cedar frigate]

i mean yea i would be considering its keeping a pretty high count of players months after release 💀

[gleaming moss]

Even if they put the finals team on that project it'll be hard to make it fail 💀 but they need to start making skins that aren't ugly, to make more $

[livid sedge]

Nah marathon dead on arrival

[cedar frigate]

marathon is doa no doubt bungie alr dug the grave for it

[gleaming moss]

Marahahahahhahathon, holy hell that game looked bad

[cedar flare]

Atp, arc Raiders could use some suit ideas from dead space I swear

[main portal]

i'm 100% sure they'll find a way by introducing a "feed back" channel somewhere on a forum, like discord, where they take the absolute worst ideas made by 10 year olds and run with it. straight into the ground. just like this one.

[cedar flare]

Let's see

[cedar flare]

It ain't as worse as Highguard, holy fk that DOGSHIT game

[livid sedge]

They'll start balancing based on reddit comments and its all downhill from there

[half lantern]

i played it, it is bad

[gleaming moss]

The only game that can do worse than marathon is highguard

[cedar frigate]

brah i’m a destiny player n with the current team they got for THAT GAME marathon is beyond cooked

[half lantern]

somehow a bungie game, it feels worse to play on controller than keyboard

[cedar flare]

Aye, I got the same sentiment but let's see how it does before I can confirm that

[livid sedge]

Concord 2 before gta 6

[cedar flare]

Like I said, lets see

[main portal]

if anyone listens to anything posted on reddit its doomed to fail on day 1. guaranteed.

[cedar frigate]

i’d genuinely be surprised if marathon can keep 80k consistent players 2 months after release

[cedar flare]

Game awards fked it up, I thought we was getting Half Life 3

[gleaming moss]

I have a friend who only plays the worst games (he's still playing new world since launch), I use him as a test to check what games will fail, and he is interested in marathon

[livid sedge]

Id be generally surprised if marathon hits 80k concurrent at all

[main portal]

anyways. HONK

[cedar flare]

U need a hazard suit just to login in on reddit and start a convo

[half lantern]

if it were free then probably but 40 dollars i doubt it gets 80k on launch

[livid sedge]

Idk some reddits are pretty chill

[cedar flare]

Yall be having peaceful convo while I'm fighting wars with mentally ill people.

[cedar frigate]

i’d agree but like $40 isn’t that bad so i’m sure it’ll have at least 100k on launch

[cedar flare]

I quit reddit long back cuz of that

[livid sedge]

Stay off any competitive focused subreddit

[main portal]

like what? i'm site wide banned from reddit just because i voted for someone they dont like. reddit is a cesspool of degeneration.

[gleaming moss]

I doubt they will make profit from that project

[cedar flare]

Shit, I did that ? No wonder I fought wars in that app

[livid sedge]

Im on subreddit for dieting and everyone is super friendly, some of them may have EDs though

[cedar flare]

Anyways, WORLD WAR Z Aftermath is underrated ngl.

[half lantern]

40 isn't that bad but theyre trying to launch it around march so people will be comparing it to arc

[main portal]

im just a goose. idk what ed is

[cedar frigate]

idk man hella people are hyped for it (somehow someway) so i’m sure it will

[livid sedge]

Eating disorders

[gleaming moss]

"people" haha

[cedar flare]

Cuz arc Raiders set the basic standards of how a extraction shooter should be. Imagine delta force operation is a complete barren land

[cedar frigate]

are we not people

[livid sedge]

We must be on different planets ive seen no chatter at all about marathon except people dunking on it

[main portal]

i was eating disorder of a burger and fries last night. yum.

[gleaming moss]

I don't consider anyone interested in marathon anything else than an AI or NPC

[livid sedge]

Ew meat

[cedar flare]

Plumber be having a very hard day at work

[cedar frigate]

prob a recent thing last i saw people were still excited for it but that was a while ago so i might be wrong now

[gleaming moss]

This

[cedar flare]

Im not interested but I am curious to see how it will go tho I know how it will be

[livid sedge]

Last I heard they got busted stealing art, the game was canned then it came back and theyre releasing it

[half lantern]

delta force is more pvp focused and arc is pvpve, marathon devs have said that the game is built for pvp and people who don't like pvp (including destiny players) that the game isn't for them. so it might also be marathon also competing with delta force then?

[cedar frigate]

yea i ain’t hear all that so nvm that game is def cooked

[cedar flare]

Ngl, u got a point.

[half lantern]

anyways for a immersive pvpve experiecne we got arc, for first person realistic extractions pvp we got arena breakout and delta even tarkov

[cedar flare]

I wouldn't consider delta force "realistic"

[cedar frigate]

isn’t delta force just a garbage battlefield knockoff or is there some pve game mode i haven’t seen

[half lantern]

marathon just looks way too "lost" in the sense that it doesnt stick out

[livid sedge]

They got busted big time for stealing art

[half lantern]

theres a tarkov like mode but heavily focused on pvp, think of it as premade guns and armor pvp arena

[edgy river]

arguably COD DMZ feels better than Delta Force Extractions

[livid sedge]

They claimed it was just "placeholders" lmao caught with their pants down

[main portal]

dbd back in the day was gettin ripped on when the stock images they were using for textures had their license run out and shutterstock or wherever they got their images for their textures from was plastered all over the game maps lol

[half lantern]

i meant sort of the graphic styles

[gleaming moss]

Delta force played and looked like a phone game, was disgusted by it

[livid sedge]

Thats awesome

[cedar frigate]

it is a phone game 😭

[edgy river]

i mean it does have the mobile version, and yes, crossplay with PC

[livid sedge]

Hunt still plays good at least

[gleaming moss]

Ugh

[cedar frigate]

well damn

[main portal]

that was like 2016 or 2017 dbd days.

[gleaming moss]

That explains it

[cedar flare]

Might be, I love the gunsmith in delta tho.

[gleaming moss]

One of the fastest uninstalls I ever did in a shooter

[half lantern]

the quality is bad but once you treat it like a pure pvp and not a extraction shooter theres still some fun, think of it like if apex legends had no zone and you choose your loadout outside a match

[gleaming moss]

Delta force the type of game that should pay you to play it

[half lantern]

i like how they simplified it but you also have tons of variety

[livid sedge]

Dbd?

[cedar flare]

Also, u got a speedloader for a shotgun, which not many games hav

[edgy river]

tbf in theory it's breaking the game balance

[livid sedge]

Show me the alofs system

[main portal]

i like how all modern games these days suck so bad that none of them are worth playing. every game is microtransaction hell.

[cedar flare]

We talking delta force bruh 💀, that one is for romero shotgun

[edgy river]

there''s a reason somehow TF2 (valve) still somehow thrive

[cedar flare]

Except the FINALS, it atleast respects the players.

[livid sedge]

Technically a shotgun speedloader

[fiery ore]

ultimate battlepa..

[cedar flare]

But man is it cool

[main portal]

im not gonna reinstall the game to prove a point. so i'm just going to say ok.

[cedar flare]

Well it ur choice if u want, I find ultimate bp skins ass

[livid sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/milking-cow-futurama-dairy-milk-gif-23297178

[cedar flare]

Well cool 👍

[rapid girder]

B

[main portal]

this game is loaded with gross fomo, limited events, limited everything, fortnite battle pass, store shop with limited this and that. this games version of microtransaction hell is like 1 step over fortnites bullshit.

[cedar flare]

I was bout to say, why u in this server if u ain't got the game installed but I remembered, its any choice that they can choose and stay in the server, to talk shit or hav a meaningful interaction

[gleaming moss]

https://tenor.com/view/serious-confused-99-gif-6154845

[cedar flare]

Except the balance department, it sucks ass

[main portal]

C

[gleaming moss]

And the spawn design team, might be the same singular person

[rapid girder]

D

[main portal]

E

[cedar flare]

Don't get me started on the spawn system, it still pisses me off to this day

[rapid girder]

F

[main portal]

G

[gleaming moss]

Got worse and worse and worse and then forgotten

[cedar flare]

H

[livid sedge]

Spam yall are banned

[main portal]

EYE

[half lantern]

you do have a point the game's monetization does look a bit too much but its because literally almost anything the game ever released can be bought any time. if you limit/rotate the skins you can buy like valorant, fortnite etc of course the monetization would feel much less

[cedar flare]

Don't, just don't......

[waxen trail]

Yep who to get rid of first

[hazy hearth]

Arc and the finals are the only games where people will pay $20+ plus in cosmetics just to be completely dog shit man . I can’t

[main portal]

@harsh timber

[gray quail]

Me jk

[livid sedge]

Probably that cm fox fella they started it

[cedar flare]

Ur ass after dying in cashout spawns a mile away from the cashout while the enemy team is twerking on ur face that u ain't getting shit

[waxen trail]

Bye Bye Snake

[gleaming moss]

What did u mean, that the players are dogshit or the skins

[fiery ore]

@waxen trail

[half lantern]

if it were a shooter

[hazy hearth]

Players 🫩🫩🫩

[gray quail]

@waxen trail

[gleaming moss]

Fair, well in arc raiders the skins are shit too

[livid sedge]

@waxen trail

[hazy hearth]

Also facts smfh

[main portal]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-metal-gear-solid-game-gif-13999306

[waxen trail]

@waxen trail

[gleaming moss]

Almost everyone I see playing arc raiders has a ton of shop currency just laying there, because there is nothing nice to buy

[waxen trail]

Wait gang not me

[gray quail]

@waxen trail

[half lantern]

the in game one or the one you buy with money

[cedar flare]

They rlly need a fashion designer to save their store

[gleaming moss]

The $ currency for skins

[main portal]

Jay

[gray quail]

When they gonna fix the shop bug

[half lantern]

i think its because there was a glitch when the game launched where you could get 10000 currency for 3 dollars or something?

[gleaming moss]

Never heard of that

[fiery ore]

ban this guy

[half lantern]

they never fixed it so a lot of people still have enough currency to buy everything

[main portal]

@cedar flare

[cedar flare]

Is it from arc raiders or the finals ?

[fiery ore]

hi

[gray quail]

The finals

[main portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-goose-gif-21443158

[cedar flare]

Hmm, u got a pic for it ?

[waxen trail]

Vote 1 to ban me if it gets 10 reactions ill see myself out

[gray quail]

Try to buy anything from the green Santa bundle

[soft rain]

What error you getting?

[gleaming moss]

Can u find or show any info about this

[gray quail]

Tfcp0003

[soft rain]

Platform?

[half lantern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1oknx5n/it_looks_like_there_was_an_error_with_the/

[cedar flare]

Well I ain't got mb cuz I'm broke but someone else can confirm this

[gray quail]

Xbox

[half lantern]

i searched arc raiders currency bug there were at least a few posts on it

[gleaming moss]

Lol sheesh

[half lantern]

basically 20 cents for 2400 currency if u play arc

[obtuse lion]

Did embark now activate
Denuvo Anti-Cheat ?

[gleaming moss]

Reminds me of the good old days with my Turkish steam

[half lantern]

i think it happened in 3 regions and people were switching their store regions to get it

[half lantern]

and my argentine steam

[main portal]

https://tenor.com/view/down-sign-what-bird-art-sam-omo-gif-13752813

[edgy river]

damn page 8 of battlepass and it's hardly giving you 1 level from daily

[silk agate]

wtf is this ranked system ive 23k points and i get q'd with 6k bots how the fk im gonna win like that

[pine nova]

What did I start this time? 🤔

[half lantern]

this is a dude buying 110000 for 10 dollars https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2605086277?t=00h57m49s

[gleaming moss]

Don't play the finals ranked
???
Profit

[main portal]

everything

[hardy bridge]

I didnt wanted to play anyway 🥴

[half lantern]

i hope this happens in the finals🥺

[gray quail]

Not that hard I finish it already

[livid sedge]

Criminal mischief

[pine nova]

Lies! I'm innocent.

[gleaming moss]

Jesus man, well, good that they don't have any good skins to buy with all that currency

[elfin monolith]

Given that the game still crashes, it would be nice if they improved the startup time...
EAC red square taking so long to disappear before I even get to the game loading screen

[main portal]

i seen you start the civil war, ww1 and ww2 with my own eyes. i even seen you start the trajectory of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. what is wrong with you?