⚡┇the-finals-chat

[wispy thicket]

How come?

[glossy rune]

the devs aren't responding tho. that's the thing. they recently rolled out an update/hot fix but didn't acknowledge the absolute mess they created. performance is dogshit in its current state

[rapid girder]

I hate all of you.👻

[glossy rune]

nah, i think you're wrong. we're the minority. most people have modern setups

[versed ore]

about to go 1 and 23 wish me luck

[grand brook]

Its not denuvo believe me, its something they did in season 8.

I played on denuvo back in season 7 and it gave me better performance than EAC, a lot better.

But after season 8 launched something made the game really bad performance-wise, my guess is the new destruction system

[gleaming moss]

huge FPS drops, stutters, and much lower fps
when I havent had any issues with performance since launch, or on any other games

[toxic dove]

honestly the performance has been rough lately, feel like embark's not addressing it at all

[glossy rune]

this is so inaccurate. most youngsters have modern setups. the majority of the playerbase has modern setups. i'd bet on that

[wispy thicket]

They do this Literally the moment I get a PC?????? C'MON

[slate swift]

The Battlefield 6 devs publicly shared that most people who played the beta of their game we're playing BELOW the recommended spec. The average person cannot afford top of the line hardware, the economy is not in that kind of state right now lol.

[gleaming moss]

well it doesnt seem to impact everyone

[toxic dove]

fr like the stuttering is insane rn, used to run smooth last season

yeah the denuvo stuff def made it worse for a lot of ppl

[glossy rune]

uhm, battlefield has an old player base. expected.

[scarlet glade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/gkcvmu/denuvo_anticheat_is_not_just_another_riot/

Might be a worthwile read for y'all about Denuvo

[toxic dove]

might be the new destruction system too tbh, seems way heavier

[slate swift]

ok but that younger player base gets their PC's from mom and dad who are those older ppl.

[grand brook]

I am still on EAC and I have my performance much worse than season 7, i used to get stable 60 not i had to lock it down on 50fps

Denuvo is lighter on the cpu, so if anything it will give slightly more stable performance.

[glossy rune]

nope. this is denuvo anti cheat, not dnr

[scarlet glade]

6 years old but there might be some answers

[gleaming moss]

this didnt impact me much at all, when it came out
only the denuvo update

[glossy rune]

they aren't buying their kids a 2015 setup. stop

[toxic dove]

season 8 really hit different with the fps drops, something changed besides just denuvo

[slate swift]

they're buying them consoles

[scarlet glade]

It is a post talking about the anticheat part not the drm part

[gleaming moss]

was totally fine for me, until about 10 days ago

[glossy rune]

protects micro-transactions=dnr.

[grand brook]

Are you on denuvo or still on eac did u make sure? Many people are still on EAC

[toxic dove]

yeah same here, performance tanked hard after that denuvo update. really hoping embark addresses this soon

[gleaming moss]

denuvo, i checked task manager

[slate swift]

@glossy rune I don't know what your life looks like but most people are not able to just buy their kids a $2000 gaming pc

[wispy thicket]

DENUVO?????

[toxic dove]

yep embark added denuvo anticheat recently, that's what's causing all these issues

[grand brook]

I have been talking here since season 7 abiut how denuvo gave me much better performance on my shitty pc, i am pretty sure its not denuvo

Its something on season 8, besides fps i am having lots of shader stutter and texture loading issues

[wispy thicket]

NAHHHHHHHHHH I LITERALLY JUST GOT MY MID RANGE PC 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[glossy rune]

$2000=current-gen. you can buy a modern setup for less. maybe used or something, but idk how the pc part prices go for older hardware

[toxic dove]

could be season 8 changes too but denuvo definitely didn't help the situation at all

[crude plinth]

does the finals still work on steam deck after denuvo? haven't checked

[toxic dove]

makes sense, season 8 def introduced some optimization problems regardless of the anticheat

[glossy rune]

on my 1070 OC, 16GB of RAM, and an i7-6700k, I used to have a mix of low, medium, and high settings. 60-75fps. sometimes hit above 80.

now, on ALL LOW, im getting mid 40 fps with constant stutters

[grand brook]

Its not denuvo then , its something they did in season 8
I am still on EAC and my performance is much worse than before especially compared to when i had denuvo

[scarlet glade]

wanted to send the link it refers to also, but the link is dead

But it just had the micro-transaction part bolded, it was convo generally about the anticheat itself

Also the hell is dnr? You mean drm?

[toxic dove]

idk my experience was fine until the denuvo update specifically, that's when everything went downhill for me

[glossy rune]

they did force the latest graphics card driver. i noticed that that destroyed my performance

[grand brook]

Same as u, i am on 7700hq
I really hope they reverse whatever they did

[toxic dove]

hopefully embark rolls out a performance fix soon because this is really hurting the player experience

[velvet epoch]

MTG beef is wild

[rancid schooner]

Holy smurf.

[glossy rune]

yeah whatever the other thing is. 99% of denuvo hate comes from that. and even posts that claim to talk ab the anti cheat, actually talk ab the other one

[scarlet glade]

it can still be denuvo stuff on background

[slate swift]

I see everybody mention Denuvo but nobody is talking about Anybrain which they're also rolling out. Maybe that's the culprit of all these performance issues.

[grand brook]

You can ignore the warning and keep playing on thr old one

[drifting fractal]

destroying those silvers

[glossy rune]

i did that. i reverted to my old version. but still, im getting nowhere near the performance i had before

[scarlet glade]

fair enough

But yeh, DRM is Digital Rights Management, DNR is Do Not Resuscitate

[rancid schooner]

I'm so sad I missed a 20 kill game because I left the last guy literally 1 shot.

[glossy rune]

lol, yeah, drm.

[brazen oxide]

Chat 1/10 how much of a bitch move is this?
Pickpocketing on free loadout and pushing extraction zones

[graceful tulip]

my pc crashes because of denuvo and now my gpu util is at 100% with shit performance

[toxic dove]

honestly the whole season 8 performance thing is wild, like even people without denuvo are struggling

[graceful tulip]

ive been crashing alot because of it

[glossy rune]

wrong chat

[scarlet glade]

nah, thats based

[brazen oxide]

No media perms in arc raiders discord really

[glossy rune]

off topic exists, and mb other channel

[crude plinth]

aren't developers on steam required to mark their game if they use denuvo as such?

[toxic dove]

tbh embark needs to acknowledge this whole thing, silence isn't helping anyone

[velvet epoch]

They have levels but you need to chat there, problem is... so gl leveling up

[slate swift]

bro it aint that serious

[brazen oxide]

iirc it is

[glossy rune]

it aint

[scarlet glade]

DRM part of it, not anticheat

[crude plinth]

specifically anticheat

[brazen oxide]

One of the issues yeah

[glossy rune]

yes

[crude plinth]

developers have to disclose anticheat and drm on steam iirc

[round ridge]

hello

[slate swift]

what is iirc?

[velvet epoch]

i lost about 20 ish frames yes

[toxic dove]

also if they don't fix this soon people are just gonna stop playing

[glossy rune]

same

[round ridge]

who here got aura

[brazen oxide]

Based is crazy

[crude plinth]

if i remember correctly

[slate swift]

YOU

[slate swift]

ohhhh I dum

[glossy rune]

basically me. i just play daily to get the pumpkins, and that's it. maybe i play a few games, but it's not enjoyable at all

[toxic dove]

dude 20 frames is rough, thats like half your fps gone

[scarlet glade]

nah fam, you admitted to being a bitch so it automatically becomes based

[gleaming moss]

👍
wish i was playing a different game than arc raiders so my protest of not playing the finals has some meaning, but it is what it is 😄

[crude plinth]

embark pls fix

[toxic dove]

hopefully they're aware and working on a patch or something

[slate swift]

what if they just forget about The Finals because ARC Raiders does really well?

[velvet epoch]

i had steady 144, now i go below 120 sometimes, not cool, expecially in competitive games

[brazen oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-and-i-love-you-random-citizen-i-love-you-metro-man-parasocial-relationships-gif-21170390

[tender cypress]

That's borderline unplayable

[toxic dove]

doubt they'd drop it completely but i get the concern

[ornate fulcrum]

I wonder if this thing is gonna run the game

[scarlet glade]

they prolly wont, but their hands are full with arc rn so yeh

[versed ore]

I used to have 80 and now I'm lucky to have 60

[crude plinth]

conspiracy theory: what if they're doing this to make people play arc raiders 🤯

[turbid sonnet]

yes

[slate swift]

maybe a slideshow of the game😭

[scarlet glade]

sane gere same here jesus fucking christ I suck at typing sometimes

[velvet epoch]

That is ROUGH

[versed ore]

the difference between 60 fps and 80 fps is incredibly noticable

[devout gazelle]

Same here
But I went from 130-150 to 90-110

[crude plinth]

/s

[toxic dove]

performance degradation like that really kills competitive play

[graceful tulip]

bro i dropped below 20

[crude plinth]

pre-denuvo ran on 4th gen

[graceful tulip]

idk why they chose denuvo

[toxic dove]

like going from stable to stuttery makes aiming feel completely off

[velvet epoch]

yes its very noticeable, annoying at times

[scarlet glade]

afaik it actually affects how mouse movement is processed tbh

[ornate fulcrum]

and post denuvo?

[crude plinth]

idk i dont have a 4th gen intel cpu anymore

[toxic dove]

fr like cant hit shots when the frame timing is all over the place

[slate swift]

I would always test my FPS while I was overclocking in the practice range standing in the exact same spot. Back then I got my FPS up to 310 in practice range. After the update I'm getting like MAX 280 in the exact same spot, usually around 260-270.

[wispy thicket]

Oooh, so it's PC players being PC players

[toxic dove]

yeah the input lag is real with all these microstutters

[velvet epoch]

Dont start

[stone torrent]

And I got 4K elims just by playing quick cash and nothing else

[wispy thicket]

I thought they had killed the game, but it's very sad some aren't able to play at 400 fps anymore

And have to settle on a messy 360 instead...

[toxic dove]

feels like playing on a laggy connection even when ping is fine

[slate swift]

I'm not complaining lol, I play at 180hz I don't even need those frames. Just pointing out the fact that I also noticed a decline in performance😭

[crude plinth]

also does anyone know why terminal attack is no longer a thing?

[stone torrent]

Got replaced

[tender cypress]

And WHY would the FPS drop massively

[scarlet glade]

noone played it and H2H was a better mode

[toxic dove]

basically unplayable for people with mid-range setups now

[velvet epoch]

cause cs2 and finals dont go hand in hand

[grand brook]

Its something on their end and its not the anti cheat
Denuvo in season 7 was amazing

Poor us people with poor setups T-T

[drifting fractal]

No one can get 400

[stone torrent]

H2H is literally just wow I killed a whole team let’s wait for them again

[drifting fractal]

Even 240 stable is impossible (on window). Linux it's possible

[glossy rune]

idk what they did, but the game is fucked for us poor pepl. help. help. help. :3

[crude plinth]

why not have all gamemodes instead of replacing them

[toxic dove]

not even talking about hitting 400 fps, just want stable 60 without stutters

[velvet epoch]

maybe the new destruction ? but thats server sided anyways

[glossy rune]

yes.

[crude plinth]

bank it was superior compared to tdm imo

[graceful tulip]

no the destruction barely did anything

[slate swift]

WHOA WHOA WHOA didn't Embark say they AREN'T using kernal level anti-cheat...? On steam it says "Uses Kernel Level Anti-Cheat"

[toxic dove]

games shouldn't get worse performance with updates, should be the opposite

[glossy rune]

yes. it was such a fun mode. idk why they yeeted it

[crude plinth]

they never said that

[slate swift]

I kept hearing that I swear, maybe I'm trippin

[crude plinth]

it has always used easy anticheat

[glossy rune]

yep. but i guess that game devs prioritize the majority. for example, hunt's requirements increased with a recent update. there's nothing you can do ab it. they just look at who brings them the most money

[toxic dove]

optimization patches should be their priority rn, this is hurting player retention

[tender cypress]

TA was literally just "get sniped and spectate for 3 minutes"

Conclusion: 3v3v3v3 my beloved

[paper idol]

Yeah I used to whenever I went to my wife’s uni accommodation and she only had a 60hz monitor and my old rig

[graceful tulip]

i cant play this game rn

[dawn seal]

Progress

[toxic dove]

anyway hoping they fix this mess before more players bounce

[glossy rune]

W

[chrome inlet]

Cashout is just not a good ranked game mode imo

[slate swift]

not bronze lobbies like actual ranked

[somber forge]

place your bets

[velvet epoch]

hopefully at the end of majors and this season

[crude plinth]

oscar do something 🗣️

[fallen sorrel]

Hoping so too

[toxic dove]

like you shouldn't need a 5090 just to run the game smoothly

[hybrid bloom]

yo i just used dlss 2x and my framed double is there a downsid to this?

[slate swift]

input lag

[paper idol]

I mean given that I’ve been consistently one of the best players in the game for like 2 years straight and I also coach a team that’s going to be at the Major I’d say my ranked lobbies are more than enough

[hybrid bloom]

how much

[fallen sorrel]

Real
At least we have it better off than the Helldivers 2 players lmfao

[gleaming moss]

this has nothing to do with peoples hardware, its about the devs ability to implement something that doesnt f**k performance

[velvet epoch]

depends on the GPU

[tribal quartz]

Day 2 of screeching at Embark to nerf lights.

That is all.

[toxic dove]

at this point just rollback the changes and figure it out later

[slate swift]

damn big dawg didn't mean to step on your toessss

[hybrid bloom]

4060

[paper idol]

You shouldn’t which is why Embark should allow us to edit the config for finals and make the game look worse again please embark I’m begging you 💔

[velvet epoch]

5 or 6 more than usual

[stone torrent]

This is why holtow is peak

[hybrid bloom]

im not complaining

[toxic dove]

man people been complaining about this since the update dropped

[velvet epoch]

then go for it use steam overlay, the new one to check difference

[hybrid bloom]

k ty

[toxic dove]

wonder if they're even monitoring the community feedback on this

[paper idol]

It’s okay man, I ain’t being harsh on ya I literally just woke up 🤝

[hollow basalt]

finally

[toxic dove]

embark usually responds to community stuff, just takes time i guess

[velvet epoch]

with arc out it take a bit more time

[fallen sorrel]

Optimization n whatnot can't just be a wave of a wand it's probably a more thorough process

[toxic dove]

yeah arc raiders probably taking up their dev resources right now

[pastel pivot]

did they nerf the p90?

[scenic elbow]

peak optimization was first 2 seasons

[velvet epoch]

[slate swift]

true but they also do things like make destruction more crazy but was anybody even complaining about the destruction before that?

[paper idol]

They have two separate teams at embark working on their titles

[graceful tulip]

the p90 does not need a nerf bro

[toxic dove]

hopefully the two teams thing means they can still focus on both

[fallen sorrel]

I think they only changed the headshot modifier to be correct like right after it dropped (I think it had 2x headshot multiplier on launch by mistake)
And it's been perfect since

[slate swift]

But what about money, more money might go toward the ARC team if its doing better

[tender cypress]

That is in fact what that means

[rancid schooner]

No.

[fallen sorrel]

True true.

[graceful tulip]

that was the pike

[tender cypress]

Having separate teams on separate projects is common practice iirc

[hollow basalt]

p90 is fine

[slate swift]

fck I already forget what iirc means

[fallen sorrel]

Oh oops. That must've been fun for those guys lol (Ive tried it and lowkey suck at it)

[velvet epoch]

pretty balanced

[tender cypress]

If I recall correctly

[paper idol]

I mean, it’s been like this for a while, there’s just simply a LOT of shit that goes on with embark internally with testing and getting feedback from every end of the community, to temper everyone’s expectations there probably won’t be any SWEEPING balance changes til after the Major / until S9 Drops

[toxic dove]

at least they're being transparent about having separate teams

[velvet epoch]

Pretty much what i said, after the even we will eat well

[fallen sorrel]

Can't wait till the day after the major ends and we just get like SWEEPING changes xD
/J, I don't know squat

[gleaming moss]

just adding unstable performance and stutters right before, and keeping them

[slate swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9GnrXPFi44&t=507s

[fallen sorrel]

Truly the biggest brain idea

[chrome inlet]

Who in chat thinks repeater is balanced

[tender cypress]

I'm not trusting a channel literally called "slop"

[velvet epoch]

i really need to watch that

[slate swift]

ok?

[pulsar mauve]

Gonna see the Chainsaw Man movie in a few minutes.

[velvet epoch]

its the most American channel ever

[tender cypress]

ok?

[slate swift]

I'm not eating chocolate because its the same colour as shit.

[tender cypress]

Rahhh pink slop in McDonald's hamburgers 🗣🔥

[toxic dove]

communication is key though, even just acknowledging the issue helps

[fallen sorrel]

I kinda do? It feels a LITTLE oppressive, but then again I only watch Sanguine play it and he's basically married to the thing cus he plays it so much.

In my experience it sucks but that's skill issue

[tender cypress]

Good for you?

[pulsar mauve]

That's certainly a reason.

[velvet epoch]

logic 1o1

[polar haven]

Big Fan of him

[slate swift]

Anyway, the video shows footage of the CEO himself speaking so you don't have to trust the channel if you don't want to

[drifting fractal]

It's a bit strong but it's not OP imho. BFR being in meta is just really good synergy

[fallen sorrel]

Valid. New album is mid but he's got a great discography

[polar haven]

Nah new Album got really good banger

[chrome inlet]

i think its op as fuck personally

[toxic dove]

like at least let us know they're working on it, radio silence is rough

[chrome inlet]

the buff of this season was too much

[fallen sorrel]

It's got Dracula and Loser at least, but those are the only tracks I really enjoy. Just not my thing is all :(

[tender cypress]

We might be allergic to satire

[drifting fractal]

2 dmg buff 💀. honestly it needed it, being weak vs heavies is kinda weird design

[polar haven]

Dracula is Peak
My old ways is peak
Loser is peak
Oblivion is peak

[scarlet glade]

a shit, right. They are working on the internet today so I'm not gonna have any for the next 30 min or so

[fallen sorrel]

Have fun good luck. Find a book I suppose

[chrome inlet]

that genuinely makes it broken though

[slate swift]

I mean I thought you we're just shutting down my link because of the channel name idk. A surprising amount of people are that dismissive lolll

[scarlet glade]

nah I'll just get an offline game

[polar haven]

30 isnt that Bad

[drifting fractal]

nah it's not broken. famas is as good on lots of maps

[fallen sorrel]

It's deadly regardless

[scarlet glade]

Thats their estimate. They said that they are working on it from 1 hour ago til 2 hours more from now

[pulsar mauve]

I was unaware how the "rotting" mechanic of this event worked. It's so...mean lol.

I thought you just wouldn't be able to smash one, but nah it picks something at random and says "fuck you, pay me" lol.

[hollow basalt]

it didnt need any buffing it was fine as it was and the only reason people didnt use it was because pike was busted

[polar haven]

Go for a Walk (underrated)

[scarlet glade]

Nah, I still have some offline games

[polar haven]

And just appreciate nature

[tender cypress]

I was being satirical while also making a subtle joke about slop content

[polar haven]

I always go for a Walk when I Need ideas for new Apps

[fallen sorrel]

Valid as hell. Fresh air is great

[scarlet glade]

I just play around with random shit I can currently get my hands on

[fallen sorrel]

I'm glad I have like 1400 MBs, I had to miss a few days cus I was out of town. Heading home now thankfully, not sure what I missed. I already have the demon mask so I shouldnt have TOO much expensive stuff to get

[scarlet glade]

Already forgot

[hollow basalt]

So fucking true now that the meta sucks and ive finished the rank grinds I'm going to try to finish KOTOR2

[scenic elbow]

anyone getting tired playing every day to get the pumpkins or do you guys normally just play every day so not different from your usual routine? I normally play like twice a week.

[drifting fractal]

play every day 🗣️

[polar haven]

Pumpkins are so easily to get, it’s usually 1 Match

[glossy rune]

when it comes to such events, i play every day

[slate swift]

Okok all good. Just hard to tell if you're serious or not, no emojis in the msg and idk you so🤷‍♂️

[glossy rune]

yep, usually 1 or 2 games and i get it

[scarlet glade]

I'm only playing for those, otherwise I'd respect my sleep (I barely have any time to play during the day)

[graceful tulip]

2 games and i get off

[fallen sorrel]

Sometimes you can't play for a day or two (like in my case) or just don't lol

[slate swift]

I logged in this morning and had one without even playing I thought you just got one every day for logging in😭

[tender cypress]

Fair, it's hard to interpret meaning through text at times

[velvet epoch]

[slate swift]

cutie

[glossy rune]

did anyone watch? anything useful/interesting?

[calm breach]

anyone looking to play?

[glossy rune]

how?

[slate swift]

I'm not sure lol, like I said there was just a pumpkin available when I logged on before I even played a match or anything. I'm not sure why, I just thought that's how it worked.

[rapid girder]

What does that stand for

[tender cypress]

Just ask GPT like the kids these days do

[glossy rune]

<@&1012034066876473384>

[pulsar mauve]

Honestly, don't encourage them by paying unless the mb is from something free.

[fallen sorrel]

Lol I'm just glad to be able to get the items I miss.

[true nova]

@ebon bluff rule breaker ^^

[slate swift]

I found it interesting personally, the guy comentating the vid is a little strange but the info you get from the actual interview he's watching is useful.

[glossy rune]

i'd rather ask humans, get a shit answer, and waste time that way

[fallen sorrel]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[fallen sorrel]

hell yeah 🔥

[tender cypress]

Ethical laziness

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-dont-just-dont-stop-gif-23310589

[glossy rune]

lol, so, what was it that was said?

[velvet epoch]

tbh im watching and its interesting, give it a try, but watch the original

[glossy rune]

i wont watch it, which is why im asking

[iron path]

imagine having a queue to login into the finals.

one can dream.

[slate swift]

He talks about the launch of The Finals, how it went, how it went wrong, how they fixed those issues that made it go wrong. He talks about the future of the game, player feedback, and more.

[versed ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298185433200726041/1433020100688216094/deepfry.gif

[slate swift]

question mark

[pastel pivot]

i knew when the bfr titan came out they would nerf it for dealing with lights easily

[fallen sorrel]

Getting PTSD to Splitgate 1 launch lmao

[fallen sorrel]

Truly tragic :( let us have the anti-light brick lmao

[livid sedge]

God finals has been so boring lately, if only the event mode had been good

[toxic dove]

true the halloween mode this year feels kinda repetitive, just not as engaging as past events

[slate swift]

I played it like twice and went back to normal modes lol

[fresh kernel]

Chat, does the profile go hard

[toxic dove]

yeah same, i miss the variety from previous seasons. this one gets old fast

[livid sedge]

Its not nearly green enough

[fresh kernel]

🟩

[polar haven]

Never gonna happen sadly

[stone torrent]

Why does the v95 a damn pistol do so much damn damage

[velvet epoch]

I played way more heaven or else which was a downgrade from heavy hitters than this event, idk

[polar haven]

Green Whats your Problem Green?

[grand brook]

I did this one in a single game, how much do you hate me? (all with flash bangs)

[scarlet glade]

LH1 is superior version of it

[polar haven]

W

[slate swift]

I'd uninstall if I was in that lobby ngl

[grand brook]

valid reaction

[toxic dove]

the performance issues make it even worse honestly. fps drops during firefights are killing me

[velvet epoch]

fucker flashing everyone in powershift

[grand brook]

self and teammates included

[slate swift]

bro made the game lose 5 players that game

[grand brook]

light swords, so are they really a loss?

[fallen sorrel]

real

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-flasher-flashing-flashertty-gif-21087390

[velvet epoch]

[grand brook]

I had to lock my fps lower than previous seasons, it sucks but at least the drops will not throw off my aim

[toxic dove]

embark needs to address the stuttering soon, it's been going on for weeks now

[tender cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-heart-heart-attack-esquilo-susto-gif-9972790462630431524

[velvet shell]

anyone else getting login error when trying to boot the game?

[hoary mango]

Gotta check setting i love that instead of light it gets dark

[grand brook]

might also be realted to server issues? i have been getting server performance icon for days now, many games i hit someone with half a mag and he wont even be damaged

[slow bramble]

Your pfpis so cool lmao

[iron path]

there's a queue to play arc raiders. because 300k+ players want to play (just on steam alone, can't imagine ps5, xbox, or...nevermind no one plays on epic)

[slate swift]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[toxic dove]

yeah i had to cap my fps too. hoping s9 brings optimization fixes

[grand brook]

i wish they change the effect of the bang, at least let us see a little bit or something or slow us down instead

[tender cypress]

It's a lazily taken screenshot 😭

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/not-good-enough-gif-6609432645851959699

[bright lodge]

You guys are all

||Bunch of cool people||

[velvet epoch]

CEO said that for the past 6 months the game has been growing and its profitable, ill keep you updated

[slate swift]

Bro really had me in the first half

[grand brook]

300k on steam alone, at least 40usd each,
embark made good money, I hope they spoil us

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[glossy rune]

thank you

[hoary mango]

You still can see the healtbars if you already hit the opponent

||not much but at the same time way more than what you should get ||

[grand brook]

valid reaction, i love how calm the french are.

[toxic dove]

the server performance issues are real too. been getting those icons constantly

[iron path]

more $30 ultimate battlepasses pls

jk

[glossy rune]

that's some money, damn. but how much of those actually kept the game?

[bright lodge]

Me when my friend accidentally made a mistake:

[fallen sorrel]

I was bathed in those icons when I used to play Rocket League lmao.

[toxic dove]

same here, the network icons have been showing up way more frequently this season

[tender cypress]

"Free thinkers" when they see a 🗣️ 🔥 reaction

[slate swift]

gotta be majority right?

[grand brook]

my halloween costume

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/my-wallet-hurts-just-hearing-that-michael-kucharski-slazo-thats-so-expensive-it-costs-so-much-gif-19676508

[bright lodge]

I'm not suffering from withdrawal

[glossy rune]

probably. that's a lot of money

[glossy rune]

scary

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/arc-raiders-give-arc-raiders-give-me-arc-raiders-arc-raiders-release-gif-4025392337056622447

[velvet epoch]

That's what my light says when he gets bodied by the enemy heavy with Winch

[scenic elbow]

buff chicken charm so it makes sound every kill

[bright lodge]

I'm already 22 hours in...

[grand brook]

the premium battlepass now is just.. meh
wish they had the option for 20usd ultimate bp but without the level skips and extra mb

[slate swift]

aye and that 300k people is only ones who want to play right now apparently... That's kinda nuts

[toxic dove]

yeah i get those server icons all the time too, super frustrating in ranked matches

[grand brook]

at least 60% i'd say

[glossy rune]

i would expect it to be over 85% tbh

[bright lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1417758630517805056/speechmemified_image44.gif

[hoary mango]

I've been outstandingly busy since release I just got to play it that day °-°

[slate swift]

Maybe I'm crazy for this but I would buy ARC Raiders RN if they gave me the option to play in first-person.

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/random-tuesday-its-about-me-and-i-dont-like-it-im-in-this-post-and-i-dont-like-it-im-in-this-picture-and-i-dont-like-it-talking-about-me-gif-25070329

[toxic dove]

communication from embark about performance would help so much. just acknowledge it at least

[grand brook]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[bright lodge]

I'm already at level 29...
My withdrawal really thrown out

[tawny osprey]

the CMs are sleeping

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/modsoffline-postsnake-snake-snek-bruh-gif-25796547

[grand brook]

jumpscare

[velvet epoch]

they really need more people on all the main timezones

[velvet epoch]

[raven cobalt]

Get wrekt other team

[grand brook]

are the maps going to get snowy next season? like season 5 last year

[fallen sorrel]

True
Just keep getting competent people and do not hire ANYONE involved with the Helldivers 2 discord
(That place was TERRIBLE last I checked, the CM's were either best of the best or the most unfit people for the position you could ever choose)

[fresh kernel]

Holy moly 🔥

[bright lodge]

I don't have snow...

[fallen sorrel]

I hope so! That would be cool

[fallen sorrel]

Manifesting 6 inches of snow the week of Christmas for you bro

[toxic dove]

for real, even just a tweet saying "we're looking into it" would ease some frustration

[iron path]

id give embork a 1 time fee of $50 for non-expiring bp like helldivers, halo, or even, surprise surprise, arc raiders deck

[edgy river]

the game put me on a match the moment i clicked quit to desktop
like are we deadass?

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-buzzer-gif-2734535025370049889

[grand brook]

yeah the vibes were cool especially in Tokyo
also when tokyo water used to slow you down, the snowy version replaced water with ice and everybody loved that

[fallen sorrel]

LMAO oh no

[bright lodge]

It's all heavy rain and shit...

[grand brook]

SAME, its such a good deal

[edgy river]

at least its not WT or Ranked but like, are we deadass?

[fallen sorrel]

The water used to WHAT 😭 (I'm a newer player, started very end of s6)

[grand brook]

heay dude dont post fantasy here

[fallen sorrel]

Sucks regardless :(

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-meow-meow-meow-snake-gif-13922759738366932600

[fresh kernel]

My internet when I suck vs. my internet when I'm cracked

[fallen sorrel]

REAL 💀

[grand brook]

water used to slow you down in kyoto lol, you had to walk on the bridges or the stones
its was miserable
kyoto still miserable now, but at least we can run haha

[toxic dove]

the stuttering has been really bad lately, especially during intense fights

[fallen sorrel]

Oh hell no 😭 glad they fixed that.

[fresh kernel]

Also, for my ARC fellows, someone just went down there. They are about to have a bad day...

[grand brook]

are you about to save them, youre so nice

[fresh kernel]

Fuck no

[stone torrent]

I think one of my teammates had a level 12 sword💔🥀

[grand brook]

also nullifier used to fix you in place, you could only shoot but not move

[mint ravine]

Fellas arc is a little fun

[velvet epoch]

[slate swift]

I'd tweak tf out

[fallen sorrel]

I heard about that lmao

[mint ravine]

Im on my second mission, I died the first one

[toxic dove]

yeah i remember the kyoto water physics. at least they fixed it before i started playing lol

[fallen sorrel]

I still want to feed Spitz into the biomass converters in the bot maps, that guy was DUMB lmao

[hoary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/arc-raiders-arc-raiders-funny-funny-fall-arc-raiders-fall-gif-8091009817878989931

[grand brook]

lol that made me quit the game for a whole month as a newbie
kept getting tased by a 3 light stack, killed, and then spawn tased again
i dont know how embark thaought that was agood idea lol

[scarlet glade]

got my internet back

[toxic dove]

season 8 changes have been interesting so far but the performance issues overshadow everything

[grand brook]

true, i hope they fix it

[scarlet glade]

I barely missed seeing that in live btw

[fallen sorrel]

Oh HELL no 😭 yeah I would've uninstalled
Now it seems niche but cool, like I can see it being good at stopping a Steal if you hit your shots

[bright lodge]

Your cpu is a guy falling...?

[slate swift]

well lets be real isn't that kinda what winch is know. Unless you were frozen for much longer with that thing idk (I wasn't here for that)

[toxic dove]

repeater buff was probably a bit much tbh. its everywhere now

[grand brook]

yep, winch is so crazy tbh, when i play shak-50 and winch in tdm i just feel sorry for the lights

[velvet epoch]

i was there

[scarlet glade]

btw, is the cats basement only for the tag for most peeps or do people actually chill out there also

[grand brook]

yeah lol it was hell, i have no idea how i didnt quit for good given that this was my first fps and i kept getting farmed for a whole season lol

[slate swift]

What do yall think about Heavy charge n tweak, yall think its busted or balanced?

[scarlet glade]

charge is fine imo

[toxic dove]

yeah the repeater is strong. saw like 3 of them in my last ranked match alone

[fallen sorrel]

I keep forgetting the Winch aims slightly to the right of my crosshair and messing it up

[grand brook]

underpowerd kinda, as long as it can be stopped by winch

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-26114488

[grand brook]

if they walk into the winch even when u aimed bad they still get winched lmao, i hate that spec

[slate swift]

I thought the same but recently had a rough experience against a charge Heavy...

[graceful tulip]

give it the ability to push cashouts

[fallen sorrel]

Good to know

[velvet epoch]

People mostly for the tag some chat, but the place has no filters, these are my rules

[slate swift]

kind surprised it doesn't tbh shiiii

[bright lodge]

did somebody said car...

[grand brook]

a heavy who times their CnS correctly is very hard to deal with lol
one guy yesterday had 35 kills in tdm, i really couldnt do nothing to him lol

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-gif-887861705406648771

[scarlet glade]

huh
.
.
.
.
.
So is it better or worse than arc raiders chat?

[grand brook]

if the finals is so good why didnt they make The Finals 2

[olive solar]

tie, vaiiya or dress top?

[grand brook]

dress

[fallen sorrel]

Vaiiya or Dress

[slate swift]

Lolll I wish I could share files in this chat already, I got a nice clip of me getting absolutely FARMED by a team that had a WINCH/FLAMETHROWER and CHARGE heavy.

[grand brook]

yeah haha the tie one looks straight out of supernatural

[velvet epoch]

id say better

[scarlet glade]

dress top and vaiiya are both nice

[velvet epoch]

tie would go right now, undress

[grand brook]

i know the ffeeling lol, its funny when the next game i get the guy who destroyed me in my team lol

[toxic dove]

honestly feels like there are some major server issues going on right now

[grand brook]

is this tuff

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-your-mom-is-so-nice-i-hope-she-has-a-nice-day-your-mom-is-so-gif-22134595

[weak sun]

huh

[toxic dove]

got my hands on that new arc raiders playtest. honestly its pretty solid so far

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/all-systems-operational-discord-down-discord-discord-status-server-gif-22808376

[grand brook]

all operations systemal

[toxic dove]

cant believe how smooth the movement feels compared to other shooters. feels way better

[bright lodge]

all programs optimal

[slate swift]

Does anyone know if there's something wrong with the "Rager" club??? I've been getting Tbagged a LOT more since I've had the tag in my name lol.

[fresh kernel]

Embark, give THE FINALS a taste of your learning curve with ARC Raiders, optimize, fix load times, and crank out a banger FPS update for those struggling with even high end hardware

[grand brook]

Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because he was already dead.

[fallen sorrel]

Still love this copypasta lmao

[grand brook]

hahaha same, it fits ANY post lmao

[fresh kernel]

Seriously though, am I petty thinking THE FINALS and ARC Raiders have 2 entirely different optimizations? THE FINALS feels clunky in comparison

[toxic dove]

syeah i think arc raiders does feel more polished fps-wise. different engine optimizations probably

[grand brook]

yeah arc performed super well,
i think beccause it doesnt have destruction

[versed sail]

Trails are fun, too bad a sniper turret was watching another probe

[polar haven]

Guys im finally platinum with Solo que ( world Tour )

[fresh kernel]

But all the distruction is server side. Something is wrong client side to cause such bad stuttering

[bright lodge]

yeah, it has you (the player, not you specifically)

[fallen sorrel]

W

[grand brook]

still your cpu has to process the destruction back and render it, the calculations are server side but you gotta render it and it gets too much especially after season 8 destruction update where buildings can be destroyed with a goo barrell

[gloomy glacier]

Need a decent stack for WT no mic

[olive solar]

halfway to skin I don't like

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/when-server-down-iceeramen-monkey-gif-23229726

[grand brook]

its not bad tbh

[polar haven]

Im Not a gateway Fan tbh

[bright lodge]

i will open a gateway

[olive solar]

best gateway skin is the level 10 one tbh

[polar haven]

Yes

[grand brook]

it looks so good on the akm

[polar haven]

Shock grenade is underrated

[fallen sorrel]

It needs more skins let's be real. Super cool visuals but like embark pls

[mortal flax]

wait is the stuttering back? i haven't been playing the game that much but i haven't had any issues

[grand brook]

it is a must pick in high elo

[olive solar]

gateway should be a skin printer but they just don't like money I guess

[fresh kernel]

That's true actually. Good point. But still, I feel like there should be a faster way, or even a way to push more power to the GPU. The CPU is getting bottlenecked by that calculation, and my GPU is only being used for rendering and graphics. I feel like putting some calculation on the GPU would increase performance DRASTICALLY across all platforms

[versed sail]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-strange-marvel-rivals-portal-black-panther-gif-17370726943093414543

[fallen sorrel]

I'm not even a light player usually but FACTS

[polar haven]

Yeah but many Players pick
Gateway
H+ infuser
Pyro or invis

[scarlet glade]

there are ways, wdyt why crypto was based on GPU for quite a whiule

[fresh kernel]

I could 100% be wrong though

[versed sail]

Gateway and anti gravity cube could easily have a few legendaries

[grand brook]

yeah true, I am playing on an old system so my cpu is always hitting 100% while my gpu is chilling

[bright lodge]

i don't know how to use gateway

[grand brook]

the glitch grenade is soooo good against heavies

[robust mesa]

"you think overwatch is better?"

"I do and I'm tired of pretending it's not"

[polar haven]

Omg fr

[fresh kernel]

Yeah, if it's possible, Embark should look into utilizing more GPU for calculating that stuff. My CPU is struggling and my GPU is on vacation

[cinder wedge]

rivals fell off so quick

[shadow vine]

Overwatch is better? No
Worst game design thanks to role lock

[grand brook]

a heavy without shields or winch is just a big targed lol

[polar haven]

Its difficult to learn but op if you Master it

[bright lodge]

i only use it for traversal kekw

[polar haven]

And Then they have the sa shotgun

[robust mesa]

rivals is doing fine. I just don't think it was the earthshattering genre definer everyone thought it was

[robust mesa]

lol. lmao even

[versed sail]

Tried rivals and overwatch again recently and I had a better time on overwatch, zen ult now able to debuff enemies is goated

[polar haven]

Jackpot

[scarlet glade]

Please dont force me to actually have to hold M2 to charge up the last bit of backstab and just do it automatically ty

[grand brook]

just.. optimize destruction
even performance aside, it is way too much
buildings come down too fast especially in tdm
i love chaos, but not this much lol

[polar haven]

I feel like the defibrillator has too much charging time

[bright lodge]

please force him to do dagger charge up ty

[versed sail]

Throwing knives has an option for both, why can't dagger

[fresh kernel]

See?
91% CPU
57% GPU

There's so little headroom on the CPU is causes pauses and stuttering, and FPS drops, while the GPU isn't even 75% utilized

[grand brook]

dont remind me of what they took from me
i still misfire it,

[robust mesa]

stadium is so fun. I just wish I could drag my friends into it. one rages out every time and the others just don't like overwatch

[slate swift]

FACTSSSS people will go in with sledge and just straight up GRIEF by leveling the entire map and getting ZERO kills

[bright lodge]

i love the finals

i dump apex legends just for it
and now i have arc raiders, kinda makes me want to dump the finals...

[polar haven]

What happened

[versed sail]

That's how I feel about this game lol my friends don't really play it

[grand brook]

lol and i was mad that my 3.4ghz cpu was hitting 90-95%
game eats cpus for breakfast

[coral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-leaping-goodbye-deck-yard-gif-17433402

[scarlet glade]

TK doesnt slow you down either

[robust mesa]

all my friends like playing this game. so at least i'm fortunate there lmao

[polar haven]

You Never dump the Finals

[velvet epoch]

[grand brook]

priming time was 0.5 seconds, then they made it 0.8, last season they made it 1 second,
my muscle memory is still fucked

[fresh kernel]

Cranking the settings to high doesn't change my frame rate at all because the CPU is already struggling at Low
It just makes my GPU work harder

[fallen sorrel]

Wish I was better with TK tbh

I need to play Light more but I love my med and heavy weapons

[bright lodge]

The Finals
my ex
Arc Raiders
my new ex

[glad veldt]

Yoooo

[fallen sorrel]

What up gang

[bright lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-looney-tunes-yooo-hey-gif-17814913

[glad veldt]

Good I'm grind to become proo

[polar haven]

Thats why mine is so wierd, I started playing Last Season again and I started in the alpha, my whole muscle Memory is mixed up

[fresh kernel]

Embark needs to do their research and focus on CPU calculatory optimization SPECIFICALLY. It's their only weakness right now.

[glad veldt]

I'm already a silver 4 I'm close to silver 3

[bright lodge]

wt or ranked

[glad veldt]

Rank

[grand brook]

i have been grinding it for weeks lol, i will unlock it tomorrow,
and I will use it instead of the lava luster

[fresh kernel]

If Embark can decrease CPU calculation headroom, they would be undeniabley the greatest game studio out there.

[velvet epoch]

beautiful

[polar haven]

They Are already

[fresh kernel]

Once they fix CPU headroom, and causing spikes in FPS drops caused by it, Embark would take home a bonus award

[polar haven]

At the time

[grand brook]

i wish i had the season 2 akm cns skin tho

[fresh kernel]

The day Embark fixes this, there will be zero complaints for performance.

[polar haven]

What CPU you got?

[grand brook]

TRUE ,
its the only issue
and not everyone has an i9 please embark

[fresh kernel]

Ryzen 7 5700x
Lowkey beefy

[glad veldt]

17 kills in one day matches with my katanas lol

[olive solar]

just got my first full on PC crash from finals this season 💀

couldn't even move my mouse my shit got bricked

[glad veldt]

One matches

[polar haven]

This could cause it too tho, but I think thw optimization makes it Worse

[slate swift]

My game crashes 5-10 times a day and I really wish I was joking about that.

[fresh kernel]

My rig has a Ryzen 7 5700x and an RX 6650 XT

[velvet epoch]

tbh i quit the game after season 1, so i lost quite a few items too

[grand brook]

i literally gutted my OS because of the game lol
i installed ltsc windows edition and removed half the stuff from it to get more cpu headroom lol

[olive solar]

at that point just gotta pack it up if nothing u tried worked

[grand brook]

so painful honesly lol
and akm hasnt gotten a free skin in literal ages

[slate swift]

Lol my tolerance is high but definitely getting sick of it

[velvet epoch]

never happened to me, windows or linux ?

[polar haven]

I Pray for Times where Windows doesnt have like 100 bloatware preinstalled cough cough macafee

[fresh kernel]

Here's my beef with Embark

Their games can be cranked to MAX settings, and my 3 year old GPU will absolutely SLAM their games, but my CPU, same age and ability, absolutely steams, hitting 100% frequently.

[velvet epoch]

hopefully soon

[olive solar]

i aint gonna troubleshoot a once in a blue moon occurence if that's what this question is leading into windows though

[grand brook]

the ltsc edition is so good try it,
it has nothing, not even a photoviewer so its so light,

[polar haven]

How much does it cost

[grand brook]

that the problem, its not sold to the public only to enterprises, but you can get it from microsoft servers easily and honestly they dont care

[fallen sorrel]

Tree fiddy

[velvet epoch]

Probably just a 1 time occurrence

[polar haven]

Is it hard to get?

[grand brook]

not at all, there is a subreddit called windowsLTSC they have everything there

[velvet epoch]

i know that subreddit

[polar haven]

I might Look into it since I get a pc for christmas

[grand brook]

yeahh, the version is super good and light and has 0 AI stuff

[halcyon creek]

Hello guys anyone getting regular packet loss recently?

[polar haven]

Yes

[slate swift]

My boy leveled up to orange lets go

[halcyon creek]

any fix for it yet?

[polar haven]

Finally I can create vc

[grand brook]

I have been getting the whole package
ping icon, server performance icon, packet loss, you name it

[fresh kernel]

Do the fit go hard

[polar haven]

Next Update prob

[grand brook]

Yup, but i thing other boots would be better

[slate swift]

With great power comes great responsibility🫡

[halcyon creek]

same got random crashes too

[fresh kernel]

It's all about the angle and lighting

[frank lark]

i should honestly start saving up to unlock the p90

[polar haven]

P90😡

[grand brook]

did they remove seoul from tdm, I have been keeping track of all maps i played tdm in in last week, not a single game i got seoul
i got skyway stadium 9 times lmao

[grand brook]

yeah its cool but the neon accents feel slightly off for some reason but overall its cooool

[polar haven]

I disgust this gun as a light Main

[fresh kernel]

Noted 👍

[frank lark]

funny that a light could have an AR too like a medium

[grand brook]

my dad disowned me after he found out i used double barrel once...

[frank lark]

and medium has ars but no smgs
so they decided, why not gives them to em

[sweet gull]

overwatch had a separate mode with no role lock for like 6 years after they added role queue and nobody played it

[scarlet glade]

https://tenor.com/view/3ad-gif-9789169396268285252

[frank lark]

what's next?
an smg for the heavy?

[polar haven]

I used it in my last round to get to platinum

[grand brook]

honestly the shak plays more like an smg than ar

[grand brook]

🙁

[polar haven]

Aim of Doom and despair

[shadow vine]

I am already aware of the presence of no role rock, the main problem is that they enforce Role Lock in esports games

[frank lark]

is it becaue of the max damage range?

[grand brook]

I HAVE BEEN HAVING THOSE ALL WEEK
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY

[slate swift]

you make this?

[midnight briar]

So real

[sweet gull]

because no role lock is terrible and horribly uncompetitive. nobody who plays the game likes it

[frank lark]

or handling or movement?

[grand brook]

yeah, beyond 30 meters its better not to even try

[polar haven]

I lowkey need map bans in ranked or world tour

[frank lark]

huh

[grand brook]

it does so little damage beyond 30 meters, but at close range it shreds, like an smg

[shadow vine]

That is a big problem, splitting 3 queues instead of having 1 queue, leading to one-sided/unfair games every time

[polar haven]

Sa lowkey better than shak

[grand brook]

i am talking about the shak haha

what is role lock?

[sweet gull]

no the matchmaking was fine, theres still split queues and matchmaking is great. its just a bad mode that limits creativity in character design

[polar haven]

I think where you pick a role and Then you get matched with 2 other guys with the other 2 Roles

[sweet gull]

you can only do so much with a character meant to fill a role when you can also have 2 other people on that role

[shadow vine]

Yeah not only that, but also excessive heals unlike Marvel Rivals hero designs

[grand brook]

i dont think that would be good in the finals

[frank lark]

so like have a match where there's 1 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy?

[slate swift]

couldn't you load up as a different role first then switch before the game starts?

[fresh kernel]

tuff 🥀

[polar haven]

Yes you pick the role light and Then you get matched with a Medium and a Heavy

[paper idol]

I mean that’s just the game at this point not much more I can say other than that

[polar haven]

No you start the matchmaking by selecting a role

[polar haven]

I strongly agree

[stark stream]

Role queue is cancer, overwatch already proved it

[frank lark]

honestly it sounds good for fun but sometimes i see why would you want to have more from one role

[paper idol]

Role Lock would kill this game and it’s been said time and time again that it wouldn’t work.

Please can we stop advocating for Role Lock in the big 2026

[weak sun]

sugiiii

[paper idol]

Hiiii giiiiaaaaaa

[slate swift]

Yeah but once your lobby is found you can change off of that role. Like if I load as a Heavy I can still play as a medium as long as I choose that before the game begins.

[grand brook]

did anyone try gauntlet in battlefield, how similar is it to the finals tournament?

[stark stream]

If you don't like having random teammates, use LFG services

[polar haven]

I feel like role lock would kill crazy Teams that are good with Like 2 lights and 1 Medium for example

[devout gazelle]

Me in a nutshell

[shadow vine]

I don't mind having random teammates, unless they are intentionally trolling

[olive solar]

Public lfg discord teammates are worse than randoms 💀

private lfg discords on the other hand are great (you need to be good at the game to get into them )

[polar haven]

I think they would remove that if they add role lock

[grand brook]

why are they 70% of the time so entitled? lmao

[slate swift]

Oh I thought someone was saying that's already in the game, I was like nah.

[polar haven]

Nah role lock would be Killing the Finals

[paper idol]

The games always been designed around HML, however the fact that you could play LLL or HLL or MML or HLH etc is what makes the game great at the end of the day.

Advocating for Role Lock is such a Solo only player mentality and I’m not being funny the game is designed for 3 people, it’s not supposed to be SoloQ friendly whereas you can SoloQ in most 5v5 or 6v6 games and be relatively fine as you’re less of a important variable.

[polar haven]

Thats exactly why there is No Point in Adding role lock

[grand brook]

the closed beta feels so uncanny

[paper idol]

Then why is anyone even talking abt it

[graceful tulip]

sometimes i wish we had universal weapons

[polar haven]

It just Ruins the whole Point

[stark stream]

Solo queuers need to get used to the fact that solo queuing is going to suck no matter what because that's just the nature of queuing up with randoms

[paper idol]

CB1 hud my beloved.

[weak sun]

solo queue sucks in most games

[polar haven]

Because it’s clearly stupid to Add This

[grand brook]

i only want the old arena announcer back

[frank lark]

yeah
imagine a light with a flame thrower

[slate swift]

Looks like you took that pic with a Nokia

[polar haven]

Imagine a Heavy with m11

[true nova]

it’s quite fun in arc

[grand brook]

hahaha i screenshotted it from a video

[stark stream]

Light with flamethrower would honestly kinda suck. Light with the cerberus could be nutty though

[grand brook]

https://youtu.be/gmh2omXGDYs

[fallen sorrel]

I'd love that tbh

[paper idol]

Nah the old HUD unironically was always better.

Especially the cashboard in the top left, Also visually stuff like glass effects were better back then too, movement was also like 100% better back then but is what it is

[stark stream]

Heavy with SH1900 + winch

[frank lark]

would be kinda insane

[paper idol]

Just learn to SA12 😭

[grand brook]

the hud looks unpolished but yeah the movement feels better

[stark stream]

But 1 shotting a light in a winch would send them to reddit faster

[polar haven]

Nah the old hud was way Worse

[weak sun]

it is i agree tho

[paper idol]

Nah the Top left scoreboard was WAY more dynamic that we had before.

Like unironically if they brought it back the game would be better for a readability level

[glad veldt]

I'll be gold badge rank in no time

[scarlet glade]

Server desync is real (ik I fucked up also but the dude even didnt aim at me when he hit me)

[frank lark]

i onced got winch by a heavy who was gonna flame me but i was using the SH1900 so i killed em....or was it the compow bow?

[grand brook]

maybe as an accessiblity option, that would be neat

[polar haven]

I think no one would care of the top left hud would Change tbh

[late folio]

Anyone dealing with toxic players rn??

[frank lark]

oh lord

[polar haven]

Has anyone noticed the massive desync in arc Raiders too?

[weak sun]

arc is having server issues rn

[polar haven]

No like since the start

Enemies are hitting me behind the Wall

[fallen sorrel]

It's a pvp game, always

[chilly holly]

Role lock means you are forced to do certail role, which means you are forced to do certain meta loadout. Even now we curse some medium main doesn't even hold defib....and you'll going to forced play some gadget that you won't even want

[slate swift]

Someone please tell me what they think. Did I get scammed out of a headshot when when I jumped in this clip or did I miss?? I slowed it down by 4x at the end so you can really see what I'm talking about. (WATCH IN FULL QUALITY)
https://youtu.be/C3xdrzwlpdk

[polar haven]

I already know what role lock is, as said role lock is a No Brainer in the Finals

[frank lark]

yeah pvp will always make someone go into toxic insanity

[chilly holly]

Oh I thought you are wanting it my bad

[sweet gull]

No brainer (would destroy queue times and match variety)

[chilly holly]

4v4 cashout

[scarlet glade]

Anyway, from the same game a game winning double heavy kill

[scarlet glade]

it would go against the philosophy of The Finals design tho

[late folio]

No this guy was making fun of gay people in the chat and throwing my game and shooting our bodies in world tour when we haven’t done anything and said we “weren’t playing competitively”

[frank lark]

as a heavy main
i feel like i should be afraid

[scarlet glade]

just dagger things, dw about it

[frank lark]

yeah
dagger you can 1 hit kill i think

[velvet epoch]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[weak sun]

why would he believe that

[nocturne lava]

Bro arc is so much better

[scarlet glade]

for heavy it needs a backstab + qm, backstab itself deals 320 damage

[versed ore]

the scammer doesn't deserve a ban, they deserve a fucking oscar.

[frank lark]

oh okay
next time i decided to play as light and get the dagger i'll consider it

[velvet epoch]

100%

[scarlet glade]

dont, dagger is fucking horrible to play with

[velvet epoch]

Innocent people...

[slate swift]

I don't know if I feel bad or if this is the funniest shit I've ever seen😭

[trim talon]

The ceiling says gullible on it

[weak sun]

im sorry but that is no excuse💀

[nocturne lava]

Anybody like arc or nah I think it’s really dumb

[tender cypress]

Deserved

[frank lark]

things are too real to be true

[fallen sorrel]

Bro 😭

[tender cypress]

It's peak...

[fallen sorrel]

LITERALLY 😭

[frank lark]

tell that to the light that kept backstabbing me and 1 hit killing me

[scarlet glade]

From probably one of the best dagger players in the game

He also occasionally talks here

[slate swift]

I think its dogshit and not a viable weapon for most ppl, and when it does work its fcking annoying for the person it gets used on.

[scarlet glade]

even when it works it is a dogshit weapon

[frank lark]

yeah for light i feel like i'm better off with other stuff and if i did wanna melee with light. i would use the sword

[slate swift]

thats what I'm sayinnnnn like its not consistent enough to be good, but when it does work its busted.

[scarlet glade]

unless it gets some much deserved love it wont be anything better than dogshit, even if you are good with it

[slate swift]

Like the other player doesn't care that the weapon sucks for the person using it, they still got fcking 1 tapped without seeing or hearing anything.

[scarlet glade]

Sword does the job more consistently and better

[rapid girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278405617161076849/1434563372396838942/IMG_2094.gif

[devout gazelle]

The Obama generator

[scarlet glade]

Some example ways how to get a backstab off, and you can hear both ways of closing the gap from behind, even though sliding is indeed quieter

[midnight briar]

Peak solo or trio

[nocturne lava]

Yeah dead ass I’ve never played I’m just talking to talk rn

[scarlet glade]

this is prolly the only way to get a backstab off without giving them any time to react through sound or vision

[nocturne lava]

But let’s be so real any heavy players that are good all know that the shack should have like 5 more bullets in it and wench should go 20 meters

Now this is would be super fair and balanced

[frank lark]

i guess so

[drifting fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[brazen oxide]

If there is a dagger player I dont get backstabbed more then once cause if you know they exists just be cautious cause 99/100 dagger players suck and the 1 dagger player that is good would do a billion times more if he just played DB

[scarlet glade]

he's joking/baiting

[nocturne lava]

Nah dead ass rn

[scarlet glade]

oh look the guy who is a lot smarter than me about dagger is here

[brazen oxide]

*girl

[slate swift]

well maybe so, but it doesn't really matter because by the time you do hear something you have a fraction of a second to react. Even if you do react, unless you have aimbot that dagger is winning on TTK.

[scarlet glade]

mb, soz

[frank lark]

i was just responding as a heavy guy

[rapid girder]

Ya

[nocturne lava]

Guys I only need 200k to get ruby im sooooo close

[rapid girder]

Baiting isn’t real

[scarlet glade]

happens quite often against good players

[subtle spire]

It's true. I've only really ever been backstabbed once per match with a dagger user. Afterwards they never really get the chance to do so or I become aware quick enough when they approach. Usually they switch weapons after a few minutes. Haven't really faced a formidable dagger player, much less a dagger player that doesn't change weapons at all.

[nocturne lava]

Who wants to delete the finals but can’t

[brazen oxide]

First fight I see that they are on dagger and they become free kills after

[steep raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1422939260595601418/1434501699011084288/IMG_9221.gif

[rapid girder]

H

[scarlet glade]

bad example but I remember this guy would manage to react almost as soon as I dashed, so if I didnt instantly get the backstab off after dash I would almost always lose the fight against them

[fringe copper]

How far yall think someone can get in ranked with JUST throwing knife’s

[glad veldt]

Meeee. With my katana

[scarlet glade]

quite far, TK-s are good just hard to be consistent with

[rapid girder]

6

[slate swift]

Idk I rarely run in to dagger honestly, but when I do it rarely goes like this clip. I get some dash light on crack buzzin around me like a damn house fly poppin cloak bombs and fckin me from behind. Some are dog butt too but some are pretty good with it.

[glad veldt]

I'm close to my rank silver 3

[drifting fractal]

ruby

[glad veldt]

Noice

[scarlet glade]

Only way I get kills against good players w/ dagger

[fringe copper]

No chance

[slate swift]

see like I don't even have a problem with that mechanic, I just think its busted that I can get one tapped by it.

[subtle spire]

Throwing Knives and Evasive Dash? Ruby definitely, especially with good team comp and time on their hands. Diamond more likely if either isn't available

[drifting fractal]

for you ig

[fringe copper]

I gotta hit aim labs or sum cause im ONLY good with throwing knife and can’t get past plat, I have 40 kill games I just can’t progress

[scarlet glade]

you literally only get onetapped by it if you dont know dagger is in the game, once you find out about the dagger player it is quite hard to die to them if you know how to play around the dagger

Also, backstab arc is only 150 degrees, so you need to be quite literally behind them to actually get the backstab off, so even turning towards the dagger player even a bit gets you better chances

[turbid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/daamn-bird-daamn-bird-sentry-tf2-sentry-mini-sentry-gif-4882231901443475625
embark, pukeko turret skin when

[olive solar]

3 more days until we get ppl running around as green abominations with that bodypaint on the anime face

[drifting fractal]

wait there's a green skin color???

[olive solar]

ya

[drifting fractal]

I'm gonna need to buy that item i missed then for sure. Shrek cosplay is worth paying for

[rapid girder]

Goodnight

[slate swift]

brother if were being real here you might as well have been in front of him. This is what I mean when I say you gotta react like a damn caffeinated cat. He would have had to turn around and face you within the time it took you to dash, not to mention you don't really expect to get backstabbed while facing the dagger player. (not even tryna hate for the dagger usage I think that's a sick clip, I'm just saying)

[sweet grail]

Rest well 🥂

[rapid girder]

Ok

[snow cosmos]

Bro im suicidal asf yall needa fix the ranked. Why am I fighting rubys in gold. And why do I have gold levels guys in platt

[frigid thunder]

guys how much time left for todays pumpkin i'm at a concert

[devout gazelle]

Like 5 hours

[scarlet glade]

Again, pulling off dash-backstabs like in the first clip is quite hard unless you are cracked, and if you miss it then the second clip is my average experience of trying to kill the fucker

[frigid thunder]

cool cool thanks bro

[devout gazelle]

I missed a pumpkin cuz I went ghost hunting irl and of COURSE it was the one with the dagger in it

[fading fiber]

so for the "free bundle" in the finals message i got in my inbox, do i have to first get arc raiders?

[scarlet glade]

no, u already have the charm and sticker

[frigid thunder]

that was my first item hehehehe

[fading fiber]

i aint seeing it

[devout gazelle]

My first item was some lame shit ion remember

[scarlet glade]

go and look into ur stuff

[fading fiber]

k

[devout gazelle]

But I got the dual blades so I'm happy

[fallen sorrel]

Holy crap I think I might be good with Pike

[brazen oxide]

pulling off dash-backstabs like in the first clip is quite hard unless you are cracked
Riot shield players are kinda free sorry to tell you that

[glass nova]

we need team death match rank

[fallen sorrel]

Idk why I said Dagger lmao oops

[scarlet glade]

yeh, ik, I just suck with them rn, killed the same shield player like 5 times more

[devout gazelle]

Curse of reading a recent word

[fallen sorrel]

Yeah that's prolly it

[scarlet glade]

o wat OwO

[brazen oxide]

Backwards dash micheal jackson stab

[fallen sorrel]

Pike is what I meant to say. Shit is SUPER fun (at least on power shift, able to go toe to toe with the camping sniper lights and win, AND be more mobile to be on and off the platform

[scarlet glade]

is it still possible?

[scarlet glade]

Oooohohohoho it is

[glass nova]

id rage quit on god. that was clean

[brazen oxide]

Yes, but its probably the hardest fancy backstab cause you need EXTREMLY precise timing

[devout gazelle]

Out of all the people here I did NOT expect you to say OwO 😭

[sly atlas]

Where do yall even find that gamemode I cant find it??

[brazen oxide]

7.6 Cashball midseason gamemode like we have the current ghoul mode for 8.6

[sly atlas]

Ohhhhhhhhhh ok

[silk vigil]

Holy shit😭

[scarlet glade]

Dude, I'm playing a catboy assassin who uses the K.O. meow after most of my backstabs

Tho deffo I am not the type of guy to randomly say OwO irl

[devout gazelle]

Fair

[brazen oxide]

I make yt videos if you care

[rough aurora]

are the arc servers down?

[sly atlas]

[silk vigil]

definitely going to check them out, crazy ass clip😭

[rough aurora]

yo guys are the arc servers down every time i load i crash

[brazen oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG_Eyq_1Q20&t=86s

[drifting fractal]

gelz art flashbacks

[brazen oxide]

WDYMMM

[drifting fractal]

never living it down bucko

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-cat-cat-meme-those-who-gif-2719346752565069035

[brazen oxide]

to be expected but its vanilla and there is always worse

[velvet shell]

ive been getting an error saying login error due to server interruption

[warped sinew]

gelz are you an orion lance spammer

[devout gazelle]

Was this about ice cream

[golden marten]

I shaking is that? Gulp

[brazen oxide]

I am a Magyar/Nix/Priya player and despise lance

[warped sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[golden marten]

GELZ in the chat?!!?

[static hound]

bro getting excited

[silk vigil]

Fucking bonkers

[gritty carbon]

stabbiesss galoreee 🙌 😌

[brazen oxide]

Mayhaps

[exotic sparrow]

I hate dagger ...

[golden marten]

Can someone explain why the word el is censored in the game

[brazen oxide]

meh
Kinda same

[golden marten]

Real real

[pulsar mauve]

Chainsaw Man movie = good

[brazen oxide]

I didnt belive it lol

[exotic sparrow]

fart is also censored

[scarlet glade]

wat

[gritty carbon]

framerate too

[warped sinew]

"???" is also censored

[pulsar mauve]

Kinda the opposite for me. I use Chuck because I don't feel like I can trust most randoms.

So many Heal Beam Mediums that seem to forget they even have a specialization. So many Lights without H+.

[static hound]

i love flamethrower

[golden marten]

lmao

[robust mesa]

friends. it goes too hard
https://open.spotify.com/track/5IeePsTYSdFvadsHY0npqF?si=b25005ba244a41b5

[fallen sorrel]

FINALLY got the dagger skin from the event, I can die happy

[robust mesa]

ugh. no embed. fine. whatever.

[slate swift]

smh... green roles

[warped sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[robust mesa]

https://tenor.com/c63MjaPhXZl.gif

[slate swift]

thats it. I'm starting a movement with all the yellows to get all greens perma banned

[golden marten]

can a reddie join?

[robust mesa]

https://tenor.com/bk3RI.gif

[scarlet glade]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-dance-embed-fail-gif-14428096172497776364

[devout gazelle]

What did I do 🙏

[robust mesa]

do not be a green pick me

[slate swift]

Fck it yellow AND red gettin in on this movement

ORANGE WYA

[robust mesa]

the yellow roles need understand their place in all this

[golden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/green-role-greenies-hate-greenies-gif-12243272704817837008

[slate swift]

one bad apple ruins the bunch... sorry

[gritty carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/postal2-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-26286026

[devout gazelle]

Who is it
I just wanna talk to him

[leaden mesa]

Sup gamers, does anyone now if I can still get the halloween twitch drops?

[devout gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-meg-griffin-i-just-wanna-talk-to-him-put-that-gun-away-family-guy-gif-14677957

[slate swift]

@robust mesa ...............

[robust mesa]

lmao pinging some poor rando

[devout gazelle]

That's not even a green role 😭

[north creek]

Why do people in groups stand so close together like freaking peanut butter and jelly lol? Is it a new thing?

[devout gazelle]

Bro pinged the wrong guy

[robust mesa]

yellow roles just doing yellow role things

[slate swift]

noooooo wym look...

[robust mesa]

some poor dude is going to be looking at his phone at like 3 am like

[slate swift]

dont make me get white in on the movement too

[robust mesa]

i'm not the one pinging innocents

[brazen oxide]

First game on in a couple days since Ive been on arc and shit feels so different

I AM GONNA FUCKING CRASHOUT I AM DOING PUMPKINS DAILY WHAT THE FUCK

[robust mesa]

I already lost my shot at that dagger. depression

[gritty carbon]

i still dont have it either, idc about anythigne else in this event

[slate swift]

hella unfortunate I got it day 3, down to trade accounts tho.

[fallen sorrel]

LOL

[scarlet glade]

heh get fucked I got it on my 3rd pumpkin

[brazen oxide]

LMFAO I spent 1.2k on this game and own half the shop and have every dagger skin but this one and I will get it guaranteed
"Trade accounts"

[slate swift]

insert photo of dagger to flex

[scarlet glade]

lmao no image perms

[slate swift]

...

[drifting fractal]

Are you using a 9800x3d + 5090 by any chance?

[slate swift]

oddly specific guess

[brazen oxide]

7800X3D and AMD 7800 Sapphire Nitro Plus equivalent of a 4060 Super

[drifting fractal]

You've spent the same amount on your pc as on cosmetics. More, actually

[slate swift]

I mean just a suggestion but I undertsand we don't gotta trade. Unless...?!?!?!?!?

[brazen oxide]

Game would still run like shit lol

[brazen oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/eminence-eminence-in-shadow-yellow-role-gif-8920892676277931666

[drifting fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[scarlet glade]

Anyway, Imma see if I can put together another knifing skin set

[devout gazelle]

I should develop a game with basically 90% cosmetics and 10% gameplay and ask you to play it

[gritty carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/meetspy-spy-meet-the-spy-gif-22795840

[scarlet glade]

Currently running this myself

[gritty carbon]

destiny 2 would be some good inspiration too

[drifting fractal]

gache games would be better

no genre has been able to manipulate poor self control as much as them

[brazen oxide]

Anyways I want new levels asap preferably all levels till Level 15 to be added in S9 cause everything is usually maxed out in 1-3 weeks into the season

[glad timber]

anyone here encountering the recent stuttering issues?
Iʼve tried most everything I can think of on my end, and iʼm still getting half as many frames as I was before (40-50, compared to 80-100)
and the most annoying part is itʼs not even a consistant FPS at all, and having a noticable effect on my gameplay,
Iʼve seen a number of people complaining about a similar issue recently and was wondering if there was a solution found, itʼs making the game really unpleasant to play

[final depot]

I love Cumulus

[brazen oxide]

My fps feel unchanged they only are notably worse on Kyoto and since S5

[glad timber]

Kyoto is always bad, But only been since patch 8.5 that iʼve noticed it

[slate swift]

Kyoto booboo water

[fluid canopy]

its soo stupid that you cant miss a single day, especially on arcs launch

[unborn chasm]

Anybody trying to play

[glad timber]

the keyword being try

[sweet grail]

-lfg try these channels to look for groups to join if that’s want your looking for

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe:
#lfg-eu-casual • #1290634115720286209 • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America:
#lfg-na-casual • #1290634275737305190 • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia:
#lfg-asia-casual • #1290634388014633054 • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania:
#lfg-oce-casual • #1290634528255246439 • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America:
#lfg-sa-casual • #1290635941211410443 • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[glad timber]

nearly unplayable levels of stuttering and frame loss lately

[chilly holly]

Delete cashout

[chilly holly]

Dayum

[brazen oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-shaking-head-gif-13593506101986476598

[pulsar mauve]

5v5/6v6 Cash Out

[hexed girder]

Me and my team are so good the enemies in WT have to team up against us lol

[chilly holly]

4v4

Trust me 4v4 is the way

5v5 is too much, 3v3 is too stale, 4v4 is great

[drifting fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372
4 heavies with bfr

[scarlet glade]

how about 5v5 with 3 cashouts and 3 vaults?

[agile sparrow]

why does the game never give me another teamate when i lose on or start the match with only one other person

[chilly holly]

That is interesting idea

[covert marsh]

My partner's been teaching me terraria :P

[chilly holly]

5v5 is nono because of that kind of stacking

[olive solar]

what ppl think terraria is: 2D Minecraft

what terraria actually is: Touhou

[covert marsh]

We're at wall of flesh but we havent played on like two weeks

[chilly holly]

No touhou

[olive solar]

use da bees

[covert marsh]

I have bats

[olive solar]

https://tenor.com/view/beenade-terraria-bee-grenade-bee-grenade-gif-26570145

[covert marsh]

I'm an archer he's summoner :P

[olive solar]

bee nades do not discriminate classes

what da hell

[crisp raven]

Is there a mod here I got a question

[pastel gull]

LOL

[tender cypress]

Peak mentioned

[slender ocean]

i thought this was a the the finalds chat

[velvet epoch]

[olive solar]

the dead chat

[tender cypress]

Yeah, there's also @knotty stone

[versed ore]

smh.

link? ||/j||

[slender ocean]

i dont know shit about terarria :(

[crisp raven]

I just need to know how to specify my VC for NA and world tour

Love terraria

[chilly holly]

Yoop I'm silver what do you think

[pastel gull]

basically the best game like ever of all time
play with the calamity and calamity infernum mode mods

[versed ore]

calamity infernum is really fun but I suck ass at it

[worn silo]

the light hate is justified
have a great day

[slender ocean]

no arc raiders is the best game like ever of all time

[chilly holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946175178935775265/1367230797211238440/Screenshot_20230101-162052_ibisPaint_X.gif

[crisp raven]

Anyone know?

[slender ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[blazing perch]

Minecraft is better

[slender ocean]

gotcha

[versed ore]

(calamity spoilers) I'm stuck on ||exo mechs|| rn

[olive solar]

*play with mods after vanilla

time for my yearly terraria arc

after which I will have my half yearly minecraft arc

[elfin bluff]

I might miss a pumpkin tomorrow because my power supply is busted

Fuck

[covert marsh]

He hasnt tried calamity yet so after we beat basegame we're gon do that :3

[wheat sandal]

Can I buy Isolde in America now ?

[blazing perch]

I love Minecraft

[wary field]

#1290634275737305190 need 1 if possible