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iirc most of htem are like 90s
and some are 60s
either way
be aware of what your enemy can do
and not attacking isn't even that weird
You never just sit back waiting for your team to respawn so you can push?
Then all you really need to be looking for is Chiten and making sure you're not afflicted with Kuzushi
If you do have Kuzushi, you need to disengage
And run
duly noted
there's also the obvious bait
like having a sam just rush into a 1v5
like, they're obviously fishing for kuzushi
so you just ait for it to wear off and hten go ham
it's a 30s cd anyways
there's so much shit going on half the time (at least in my brain) that sometimes i forget to look for these things and just go
i got hte party list to the left of my char
oo oo a a engage damage mode
so i can quickly peek entire enemy team's debuffs
At least I can be edgy when I nerd rage.
Don't rage just vibe

im like 2 games away from the armour, gieff now plz
I'm having trouble climbing out of Bronze myself lol
I'm just farming Casual now
But it's good, I'm learning how to use the Quick Chat more
People in Silver give me a headache
so far in gold people are worse for me 
Oh I've had gold on my team
Go
0/4 or 0/5
And I'm still wondering why I can't get past silver but they can
teammate rng
They got carried lol
is there anywhere one can find out how much series exp one has in total? or how much is required per level? finally got out of bronze hell after 3 days and want to find out my W/L ratio
oh yeah, that's a good way to find it out if you capped achievements
it's on the pvp profile
series malmstones and top right
oh I am aware but sadly that's only the current exp needed for the next series level. I'm level 16 with 2800/5000 but I don't know the exp needed for the levels before :/
ye im not sure, the low levels went really fast
you get 900 for a win and 750 for a loss, I got 28800 total through wins but not sure about how much from the losses, given that I went from bronze 1 3* to bronze 3 0* within an hour yesterday
definitely weird given that regular pvp rank exp has a sum total listed
Any GNB players here?
Anything interesting to spend trophy crystals on beside class set recolours, barding and a minion?
hellhound weapons
you can convert 1k into 1 wolf collar each and buy the wolf collar wapons
some of them look really nice
you can also buy the class specific poses
the wolf weps are so expensive 😭
guna probs buy the samurai one cus it looks so good with the pvp set
almost all of them look amazing, that's the problem. requires a lot of CC farming if you want them all and didn't do ranked pvp for collars before 
it's, what, 190k crystal currency?
@solid sundial 10k crystals per wep
so 190k for all jobs
this whm nerf cant come soon enough
they are also bugged and can infinitly spam cure 2
WAR is also ridiculous
I am locked out of pvp I can't do anymore
If I go into ranked I'll get shit on
bruh
all the three other tanks just pale compared to WAR
If I go into casual it's like watching toddlers play
I saw a Ninja, no joke, run inti the entire team. Just sprint right in there.
Empty head no thoughts
WAR go unga bunga sure, but DRK pretty nasty too
PLD got some confusing tooltips and GNB has too much utility and not enough offense imo
yeah but a war has just such huge control
Primal Rend being on such a short cd is pretty ridiculous
exactly
sch is so troll
heals for hardly anything
their green icon should be revoked in cc
I know these people have played league / OW before
trying to get people to focus one person in the backline is a joke
people targetting tanks meanwhile the nemy mch is bursting everyone down from their back
anyone elses pvp profile keep resetting to default when they switch between jobs
the like profile pic i mean
ye
you have to set it to instant
each time
my question is why is 0 stars a demotion and 3 stars isnt a promotion

because
We need a Crystal Conflict equivalent of this
loool this really is ow era salt
Ill make it later if no one does
Stun spam needs to be obliterated
It's fun and engaging
im almost done losing, almost to 25 😄
Sounds like someone got outplayed and wasted their purify earlier 
i am outplay
does sch have an ability that shields but does not allow me to use my own shield
Purify needs a buff
You're asking if a Shield for SCH exists without using Adlo? Or are you asking about Guard?
And by buff I mean it need to activate when I press the button and not 2 seconds after
sorry i was not specific, i had some kind of partial hexagon shield on and could not use Guard when i needed to
🤝
junk rat
above average player
ofc In my one chance to go to gold I get idiots who do not focus down the rdm who focused me the entire match
so whm polymorph + samurai LB has weird interactions and by that I mean
you don't dash to kill anyone the target just fucking dies
so I lost a 5 kill because of that
i feel like sam lb is so inconsistant, like i go into a fight and know for a fact ive been hit with my defensive up, and it doesnt instakill anyone
look for the debuff
is cactbot guna let us put debuffs above players hp bars
cus id rather have the debuff on the bar themselves than the unit frame#
or having to target them
ye, im just set in my ways from years of having debuffs above peoples head in wow
i actually dont know, should really try some stuff like that in duels
Yo any tips for a scrub SAM to get out of silver?
you got ur stun and 2 burst buttons in a place where u can easily see their cd? cus they line up
Chitenguard bait a 5man LB 
sharlayan, try to dive from backside of enemy team at the start of match against like a mch/brd/smn
wind map, idfk just do what everyone else does lol
ive landed 4man Zantentsukens, it feels so good lmao
but like 1/10 times
got a 5 man once, felt so powerful
ye when ur team wipes and ur the only one up to boop ppl , tis a god feeling
Cleaned a match up once
i finally got top as mnk for the first time
Got a triple
Team swooped in for the other 2 
work on weaving ur dash to upgrade ur abilities, try fight more in the big battles cus u do alot of aoe
I try to save it for this.
but then everyone focuses me with their binds/stuns, etc
so I just get fucked
Grants Meikyo Shisui and Midare.
Meikyo Shisui Effect: Nullifies status afflictions that can be removed by Purify
Duration: 3s
Midare Duration: 10s
※Action changes to Midare Setsugekka while under the effect of Midare.
3s but still
oh wow
3specially powerful when used after purify
is that 3 seconds of cant be cc'd
I didnt know that was also a buff
thought it was just for weaving Midare
some of it isnt very clear tbh
3s of no cc
10s of being able to midare
especially when ur buffs arent in your job abilities to read, u have to press the ability ona dummy and read the buff on you
I did read then all, but that part sisnt stick in my brain
just "use this for midare"
the 2nd part of the big aoe button is instant cast so try move to line it upo
I started to use it purely for the CC block
Also
You can kinda cheese ogi to have a triple ogi
so for example, at the start of the match
i always just dash in, press meikyo, then stun , then single target or the aoe button first depending on how many ppl are infront of me, if u start casting that big single target hit even if they run away it still hits them
Cause the midare cast got long range
should I jump at the center where everyones at and start aimlessly popping Aoes?
Nah
sit back and wait a second, whoever dives in first go on them, u can drop ppl pretty fast
warrior arent as tanky as u would think, once their guard is gone they can just die
and they usually dive in first
Cause being able to hit 1 target in a group with ogi is powerful shit
but then should I pop my cooldowns at the very beggining, once someone charges towards our group?
biggest thing would be work on your guard/healing and running away, know if u have guard up and only 5k mana its ok to back off a bit
or should I save the stun and Midare for when someones low?
i use on cd pretty much, at high plat everyone started waiting before going into the crystal
usually a warrior would engage or a dragoon
Yeah, you wanna wait for crystal to open first
Any engagement before that is throwing
If they push past crystal
Just the entire team jumps in
That's a death wish
ye it can work, but as sam u dont wana be first in cus u dont have a retreat button
They'll burst down one person and retreat
dragoon is good for this cus of the leap back
as sam id say just wait for warrior to engage, and then hop into the deathball, pop ur meikyo , stun and the big aoe button for shield
Chitenguard is nasty
Double ogi into chitenguard 
I love me some "fuck all damage" with a side off "fuck off counter"
honestly i can see them buffing sam dmg
Nah
Delivers a critical hit to all enemies in a cone before you with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 75% less for all remaining enemies.
Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills upon execution. Cannot be executed during the cooldown of weaponskills.
※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.
Delivers an attack with a potency of 8,000 to all enemies in a cone before you.
Potency is increased by 50% when attacking only a single target.
Additional Effect: When attacking two or more targets, creates a barrier around self that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 8,000 potency
Duration: 10s
This weaponskill does not share a recast timer with any other actions.
※Action changes to Kaeshi: Namikiri upon execution.
redmage 4th melee combo button does like 12k aoe, but u have a 20% dmg amp
to make it like 16k
!pvpaction hyosetsu
aoe bind
ur dash button turns ur first action into that
honestly i dont use it much
!pvpaction gekka
i upgrade the 2nd for more dmg or 3rd for healing
!pvpaction gekko
!pvpaction mangetsu
!pvpaction kasha
Just
You don't need to link every action they can look in game
Huh
Or on the website
i wana play some monk and whm, but i dont wana level to 30 😭
already leveled drg and blm
Booooooost

u should have misery'd, let the drg lb, then u lb and steal all the kills

yoshi p.lease nerf whm 😭
anyone feel like they lost a ton of agency in frontlines?
All the one shots flying around means you gain and lose BH really fast 
Roaming duos/trios feel vastly deadlier now too
The Dragoon: "Who's floor tanking now?"
Well I just ran into a group of cheaters
We were 1 inch from capturing the final point all of a sudden we get one shot back to back 10 times out of nowhere and they bring the point all the way from the there and go to ours
The warrior scorpion pulled us 10 times in a row
And then everybody just kept getting one shot
No
It's on casual so
Not like anything can be done about it
I'm just flabbergasted that they pulled out of their ass out of nowhere
uh
buddy
if they're cheating
they're cheating
which mode they're cheating in doesn't matter
they're still cheating
And honestly
I find it hard to believe 
Something just tells me you didn't see a key ability on their side and got absolutely railed
what a fucking gamer 
They did have a whm abusing the heal cast thing
And apparently draws are a thing now
As I just had my first one
We live in the simulation where we will only have NPC one cell brains on our team meanwhile God himself in the entire phaethon of the entire universe will be our opponents
bro whats this whm thing heal people are abusing?
theres a bug where u get infinite cure 2s apparently
not apparently
so you get 2 stacks of cure 2
use 1 of them
use your 2nd but move as you cast it
congrats
you have 2 stacks of cure 2 again

9 losses in a row

Why am I getting brain dead zombies
Why am I facing fazeclan super sand x 1 trillion
Why arent people pushing the f****** Crystal
High damage gaming:
Mnk pvp tips?
How the heck do I get out of bronze limbo??? Should I abandon ninja and play warrior or dragoon or something?
your gonna have an easier time but its def possible, its mostly about luck to get good teams or not but try to maximise your influence
Yeah, the randomness got me wondering about different jobs. I’m only good at getting kills with ninja. I don’t do a lot of damage. Bronze just seems like hell lol
It's really not about luck
your second point is valid and super important though
don't play classes that really on your team
(SCH, PLD)
play something that is good at a lot of things
it is why white mage is so good right now
i mean yeah if your an average player your 50/50ing games, but try and get the best out of your class and you shifting the balance in your favor for sure
it's got agressiveness and heal
i play monk cause i enjoy it
but the diff between monk and drg is plain
monk have some super spicy burst tho
i like getting picks with it
Yoooo I made it into top-10
gj!
I'm climbing!
Ninja can carry games if you use your mobility to your advantage
Starting to realize samurai isn't there to burst 
They're there just to fuck with you so others can burst 
And then one-shot you because they baited you and used their lb
just collected eight orbs on the volcano map and proceeded to oneshot the WHM from 100% to 0 with a 50k LB on MCH. I don't want to know what happens if you let a DRG collect them and they manage to pull off their LB
wow thanks kupo
But strictly looking at potencies, MCH lb should hit higher than DRG. (36k vs 30k)
...Unless some jobs just benefit more from the lava orb buff
the difference is that DRG LB can hit potentially five targets for 30k each, plus the damage gained from the orbs, even though realistically the chance for hitting an entire team dead center is nigh zero
Lmao Crystal rank is legit
Who has the better RDM
I beaten the 5th ranked Crystal like twice by having my team focus him
and he has won the same way like twice too crystal is too hyper imma gt a heart attack
Wkhem
!pvpaction salted earth
Instantly draws nearby enemies to your side, and creates a patch of salted earth at your feet, dealing unaspected damage over time to any enemies inside.
Potency: 2,000
Duration: 10s
Additional Effect: Gradually restores your HP and reduces damage taken by 20% while standing in the patch of salted earth
Cure Potency: 2,000
Additional Effect: Increases damage taken by enemies standing in the patch of salted earth by 10%
※Action changes to Salt and Darkness while Salted Earth is active.
!pvpaction salt and darkness
salted earth into primal rend
Salted earth into any aoes
yeah, DRK is nice and all but why go that mile if you can just have a WAR
why not both
and that's the problem
WAR just dominates every other tank and it's the easiest to carry a match with WAR
No WAR is legit such a detriment
They will literally hold point 1v4
Hopefully more players pick up WAR lol
wdym
If more players play WAR
more matches will have 2 WARS
If one team has a WAR and the other doesn't your basically fucked
there's already a WAR in every match what are you freaking on about
Pretty much
But i lost 2 games today bcus of no WAR XD
Enemy team did have one
we're just too strong, don't babyrage
I'm not baby raging lol im saying i welcome even more of them
exactly. If the WAR is at least somewhat decent they will just choke hold someone or straight up the entire team
nicee
Hi crystal mains
true, but comparing the tanks, none of the other three can even keep up with WAR in terms of usefulness

Gl
Imma be real rankings aren't that crazy
With a bit of luck top 50 can be easy
luck is the biggest factor after all to get out of the low ranks
I was in a bronze hardstuck mode for a while
same
In Crystal biggest factor might best WAR
Till i understood what i was meant to do
Same was stuck a good 30 games
went up early to bronze 1 3* only to then drop to bronze 3 0* within an hour and didn't get out of bronze 3 for an entire day
1 win 1 loss 1 win 1 loss 1 win 1 loss etc
This is the worst feeling
yep
Feels like im stuck in a loop
me just being a MCH sniping the WHMs and RDM pumping 66k attacks on the SAMs and DRGs with wildfire drill and LB
Imma be real i couldn't get out of Bronze with MCH
I had to switch to MNK
But don't take that as a tip lol
I just suck at it
I played only ninja in my climb
I did MNK bronze to platinum and RDM Plat to Crystal
testing RDM out right now in casual. definitely takes some getting used to
for me it had less to do with MCH as a whole but simply getting unlucky. when the people ignore the DRG or the WHM in particular and keep attacking the random SAM or NIN in africa instead of staying on the crystal 
then you knock out the focus target and the group attacks the tank
DNC are DRG new best friend got 8 kills in one on frontline thanks to DNC LB stacking guys up
I was just about to say are dancers
an omen a loss is coming haha
But nvm just lost bcus healer was braindead
Just dropped 300 points 
Got a 2 min queue and no match?? i'm taking that as a bad sign and going to sleep gg
gotta love it when the meme 5% insta kill happens on tanks
rdm is godly, be white stance, press ur silence, switch black, dash in , melee 123 with ur -20% heal aoe, dash out with the aoe combo finisher
easy 70k dmg
I think the worst rn is getting two tanks and a healer on your team
the entire offensive pressure dies that moment
meanwhile the enemy team with 1 WAR and 4 DPS just rips apart the healer and your own 2 dps
i think it depends, if its a war whm and drk thats still pretty good
seeing a whm on the other team is just suffering tho, you know people just suddenly have 30k more hp than they should have, and a non breakable polymorph
did they hot fix tomestone rewards?
or is there like a cooldown because just 5 mins ago it was only showing poetics
now it has them all
im dumb its because i was on a job that was not 90
Yeah was gonna say 
i think ima go get a coffee
is pvp availble to free trial players?
In the crystal leaderboard which score is put?
The one you currently have or your highest?
No
ok so if the enemy team are all near the crystal, and their team composes of
WHM, PLD, RDM, SAM, BLM
what would be the ideal order of attack?
god, getting 2 tanks and a healer on my team has always been auto lose so far
kind of expanding on this but generalizing
what would be the general focus order of everything if that isnt too hard to answer?
probably WHM -> RDM
Depending on what your job is
If i was playing normally as nin id go for rdm/whm
Actually blm before rdm
let's just say as like
mnk
If you were mnk it depends if your team jumps in first or theirs
Id peel if they jump in first as mnk
Hit any melee trying to go for your ranged/casters
okay, executing with ninja is fun as heck when you can get a chain going
what im trying to do is coordinate otherwise scattered team mates, so I can try to get the team to focus on a single target
I play on very low rankings, so people tend to spread out too much and attack randomly
so I try to put a marker/message to try to coordinate them
I intentionally spread out people
Trying too hard to focus target isnt gonna go anywhere when your teammates dont notice it tbh
they do tend to notice and play along, some times
but im uncertain of my order is ideal
so that im actually helping rather than hindring us
Only way to know if it's ideal is practice :L
Imo only tank worth focusing is warrior.
I mean anyone low enough is worth focusing lmao.
Low mp too
Way too many things to consider
like this tank might have burned all of its cooldowns but the casters havent
Tank will die first in that example
do you have skill FX enabled for pvp?
I just disabled it cause it was blinding, but at the same time I cant really tell what anyone is casting most of the time
Have it limited
Its important vs some jobs
Like a samurai doing its counter just means, dont attack em or get killed
Pov, you accidentally use an aoe skill
Man
I wish mine lasted more than 3 minutes 
I either get crushing victories, or people get swept
There is no in between in silver
This was a casual match mind you.
I haven't even tiered yet due to losing so often.
honestly probably Summoner/Caster/Ranged/Healer
summoner becomes a problem if allowed to unleash an LB (especially Phoenix), plus it has good crowd control
i haven't done much ranked pvp but this is from experience with CC (as a summoner)
My few plat games so far have all been hype
I can't even get into bronze 😦
trust me the matches dont get any better getting into bronze XD
My gold games have been anything but hype
I think some people forgot to bind their LB
Ignore AST and sch 
nah
You jump sch, you get fucked cause you get hit with heal reduce cone
i dont stop chasing someone
Does anyone know how much character exp you get for a crystalline conflict?
It's actually not a lot compared to dungeons imo
Well CC games take way shorter than dungeons
Maybe it scales better with level?
And can be only like a min.
And the queues are so fast
Idk i think its pretty fast for what it does
Tried doing it to train up a 30, but you only get like 1/8 a level per game if that
Meanwhile dungeons give me like two and a half levels per run
At higher lvl its worth it
Getting stunned while inside my DRG LB and LB gets consumed, thats always nice
getting stunned by WAR's Primal Rend, then a WHM LB and then RDM Resolution silence felt as if 100 years passed
Where's your Purify bro
in the dumpster when the WHM's LB hit before the effect started
all my games from plat-crystal felt the same pretty much, almost every game had a whm, if not every game
80% of my games had a war and a rdm mirror to match
Envy the suffering I partake in at higher ranks
But no seriously, crystal tier is kind of meh
i dunno how much i care about crystal rating
i dont think ill be pushing for top 10 or 1
time to level some alts for the luls tho now i think
wana try dancer and monk
You can still get killed by samurai's ult during your LB too. Fun times.
Dumb question, can you derank to gold from platinium?
i heard early ppl abused it by getting x5 then going on a big loss streak, to then go on a winstreak to the next bracket
would not reccomend tho lol
what's the point of doing so xD, they only reward frame and crystal point for higher rank
maybe some like to flex
there will always be ppl who abuse status stuff liek rank
Re: exp, 25k/95k at level 34 for a frontline win
look at me i got gladiator in wow, cough i totally didnt buy a pilot/boost from 3 rank 1 players
what was it the phoenix does again
is it like rdm where it turns half of its dmg to healing
Less damage, but lots of aoe heal
4k pot HOT for 15s, with a 12k* proc if anyone gets low
that is pretty neat
also it's auto is a 50% damage debuf
Then finally, it's active is a big dot instead of a nuke
Phoenix is for wars of attrition during Overtime IIRC.
Bahamut is general-use carnage.
And just in general if there's a big brawl and your dudes are more hurt than theirs
I see bahamut as win more, phoenix as turn the tide
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's used Phoenix. Like I felt I was doing something wrong but I was winning so like lol
But not winning enough. I want Crystal already :WeirdDude:
keep the grind up, and dont forget the hp pots ont he floor, 30k instant heal is so broken if u can stall to it
Lol it sucks because I have almost 200 wins but I can never get them in succession otherwise I'd have been Crystal long ago
Am I supposed to just not be in control of which tool I want to use as MCH
Am I just stuck to this very specific and readable order?
Yes you’re stuck to the order of the combo
Maybe all classes have a version of this
I’d love to be able to bioblaster a whole team into an oncoming hazard
nah alot of other classes are kind of free to press what they want
blm is kind of locked in cus u need to put a dot on ppl, make it 3 stack then proc it
Any tips for getting out of bronze hell?
The team quality shift in this rank is beyond wild, to the point Idk what is even being done right or wrong

Yeah, actually wild
yeah, Im not gonna get out of bronze
best streak got me to bronze 1
then I started losing
I went from 15+ lose streak or so to win streak up to next tier on silver -> gold
just keep trying
im seeing less WAR + WHM teams today
Im playing WHM but thats just because its my main
but what I have gathered, it seems to be pretty strong
I got 2 comms from this:
My first pvp as paladin was in Frontline. 1.2 million damage taken
Second place was a dragoon, natually
how do you even deal with warriors
Do we know if they are gonna adjust frontlines in anyway?
I dont think I can get past Silver, ever
ive lost like 10 times in a row as a Silver 3. Almost always get the lowest damage dealt out of the team
Welp.. I hope so, the new combat is great but frontlines is such a mess, especially if your going for wins, it defo needs adjusting or just make it a 1v1 not a 1v1v1. Something needs to happen... oh well. Just gotta hope I guess. 
yea ive felt like ive lost so much agency in frontlines now
Guys I broke 3k:
I also fucking hate the objective
4 whole seconds on the objective
I'm +3k crystal
fight me
Join me in crystal
I'm trying
This is the highest in silver I've been
I'm so close to silver 1
Then Gold

I also hit 100 wins on CC. Wooo

How are you guys getting the time to push to crystal
you shouldnt really stay on crystal as caster
I got day job + relic weapon + entirety of EW to do
For sure... like I want to get the 100 win achivment but its so impossible with the map layout of seal rock and the design of the RNG of battle high and also of how the nodes spawn... most of the time they spawn in the W side of the map or E.. so its so rough
ye my redmage times on crystal are pretty low, u go in burst, step back
if ppl wana kil you they have to go out of position to chase
pretty annoying watching the tank chase the bard deep into their side leaving the crystal tankless
F
I personally lost my SIlver promote due to router issues
got me seething, stopped playing lol
really dont get how purify works? it seems so uninteractive if i click it and 2 seconds after I can still get perma ccd into 100-0 idk if im missing something
if you use Purify and it removes a status effect it can remove, you get a buff that prevents any further CC for 5 seconds
if you use it too late, you don't get the buff
yea it just doesnt feel like it works more than half the time
i dont think its too late bc it removes my current cc and i see the buff but i still get ccd a bit after just removing whatever was on me
idk if theres a bug or some coding issue with the timing?
it could be a latency issue, can't say for certain
hmm could be...
seems like some others are feeling the timing issues too on forums
apparently similar issue to superbolide when it launched
Yeah purify feels unreliable sometimes
I cant get past Silver 3 ._.
I feel like Aether PVP is cursed
PvP is cursed all the way up to crystal
idk why I cant even get past silver 3 honestly. I am trying to hold the objective and I can't break out of stuns when all 5 target me
this game needs to stop pairing me with people who dont have ranks -_-
Get to gold and you wont run into them >:D
I breezed through Silver but I'm using Sam so i had a lot more chance to dictate the battles
I basically just marked the whm and just went ham without caring about if they are gonna help or not
I play WHM
how much dmg does your lb do?
idk. I havent really checked in matches
Can we party up in CC?
Only in custom match, which requires a full party for both sides to queue together. Casual and ranked are solo queue only atm.
Dude you can achieve #1
Tfw peaked 500 xdd i mean i only lost 200 but i think that's enough pvp for this season lol
Ah that sucks
I dont even want to get to top 3 atm. But this Silver 3 is just not motivating where people dont care to focus on lowest HP enemies. they are all over the place.
I even LB to make sure they are going to be attacked, but no. everyone's in the back or away from crystal to 1v1
what class
Damn this ninja decimated my team lmao
rdm
I am finally gold 4
Dragoons are simultaneously the most frustrating to play and the most hype shit ever
Watching my team not understand the dragoon LB from the safety of my guard bubble is a sad experience
Then they all get rekt

how many credit do you get/lose if you get a win/lose in crystal bracket?
90-110
Amount varies
No idea what it's based off of
There are win-streaks as well
@fringe tiger👌 thanks
It's honestly ridiculously easy to gain a lot of crystal points
is there any guide on the new pvp yet?
its fun but the outcome kinda random sometime and i wonder is it me doing something wrong
The mode is simply push the crystal into the goal near the enemy team's base
use your skills to incapacitate the enemy to make it easier for your team to push the crystal to the goal
what specifically are you having issues with?
Maybe how to use their abilities?
Yea, having a good understanding of your abilities and how to use them is the best. The other is to not chase someone to the other side of the map by yourself.
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i main pld
what i do is use intervene then shield bash, sword oath,
basically put everything on cd
then heal myself to stay alive
Not sure how good Paladin is tbh. 
Everything is valid in casual
PLD has their LB to stall the crystal for years
I stopped playing PvP for a bit
People STILL dont know that holding LBs till the end of time is a dogshit idea
oh my god, why doesn't the game tell us about those chocobo markers? 
this is a lifesaver tysm
Beat 2 other teams in frontline with a score of 800:200:200 just because we have someone pinging non stop giving orders
the miracle is people actually listens 
taking a minute to hotbar some team-rallying macros is very worthwhile, yeah
most people have no idea where to go in frontline, so consistently giving them directions makes them 3 times more effective lol
you don't even have to be that good at it
Let me stop playing aaaa
So a game where you dont have a single melee DPS is just an auto loss?
WHM bug abusers
I hope they get permas
PLD quite fun to play. 
it aint much but its honest work 
Oh true, love that, esp when you rush to other side and let our team push the crystal. 
When your SAM LBs literally nothing 
Could be worse, you could die as a drg after activating the lb
Eh that would imply the DRG is actually using his LB in the first place though and not just sitting on it for the entire match
Just have a PLD that will cover oyu 
except for the fact that pld is non existent in pvp 
What is a paladin
I did a bunch of matches in gold 4 and dunno
I feel like I just get annhileted
You arent supposed to dive as a PLD you will just die
I don't
Georskul into jump into heaven thrust into backlip into dragon twinheads
The enemy survives anyway
died through hallowed ground
10/10
good game
actually lost a fucking game to that dogshit
Never fix your netcode SE
It's fun losing to your dogshit servers
@sweet oracle try elusive jump before u start a fight, max range wyrmwind into geirskogul, into high jump , wheeling thrust , chaotic spring , nastrond
I use geirskougl first to boost wyrmwind tbf
But yeah, It depends on the situation, I do either
ye u can do that, i just find it awkward to throw ur + dmg and leap out cus u usually get ppl throw some cc at u
what i need to get used to is how character turning isnt instant, somtimes i leap diagonally somwhere stupid
litterally this, outplaying shitters and then a rando RDM dual caster hits you through six walls and through your guard coz spell batching and ping...
Is whm viable in pvp to farm for Garo stuff?
relatable
what does the Charm effect from DNC limit break do?
Makes them slowly move towards you, unable to act
ah so a mix of draw-in and confusion
so im just here to bitch that you have to do a new hotbar just for PVP. I wanted to try crystalline conflict because i heard good things. then they add this pointless barrier of entry. so fuck it i guess i wont play pvp because you've made it a chore to even try.
yeah, i wish it was handled like it used to be, where it'd just make a default hotbar rather than blanking out all your skills
i think they're considered "new" skills, rather than edited versions of those
i queue into a match thinking hey this looks like fun, only to then stant thre not able to do anything besides hold my dick
i also don't know if you can even edit those bars outside of an active PvP match or wolves den.
haha yeah the first time i dropped in i was like "oh god oh fuck my actions!!!"
its just bad design. you want ppl to be able to just jump in and play. This is like something Blizzard would do. Wanna play pvp? download 10 mods first and watch this hour long guide.
This munch lunch guy on a grind
i just chalk it up to the code still being a goddamn mess
different question: are there job gauges now or did they take those out of PvP
Gone from PvP
good to know. was playing BLM and could not tell if there was no job gauge or it was covered up by UI
and does Frontline earn Series EXP or just CC
Frontline does too
neato
ngl this is feeding that old Overwatch itch where i play ranked and get my ass stomped and yet i keep coming back for more
You could pick up a fighting game
when you lose in a fighting game at least you can see what wrong decision you made that led to it
but losses in team games can be out of your control
Sf6 summer 2022!!
Oh no you have to look at your 6 whole skills and put them on the bar before playing the game, how inhumane a trial 😐
does anyone know which tank is best for pvp? maybe one that doesnt rely on the team too much
You need to rely on your team regardless lol
If one of your teammate dcd, you have less chance of winning
But probably WAR atm
It's not even that bad, you can go to the Wolve's Den to set up your hotbars and adjust them after playing a few casual matches
No need to fret
Yeah.
PLD ftw, unli stuns / invul / mitigation on party members on LB what more do you want?!
damage ? 

!mute 250481889406615552 1h that kind of language isnt appropriate around here
#archived-player-vs-player message
winning the game because I simply stayed on the point so much that by the time overtime rolled around I was the only one on it, mwah
Pulling people away from the point and stunning them there has to be the best part of playing WAR
From bronze 3 to silver 3 in a single streak babyyyyy
single target 3s stun with 15scd = unlimited stun 
It sure feels like BS to die in the middle of the invincibility portion of the DRG LB
PLD feels so much better than people give it credit for, it is however extremely low on damage
So you are fully reliant on your team
It's like playing support in any MOBA
I had to AFK in the last 2 minutes because of a call.
But damn this game topped my 18 minute game yesterday.
Constant back and forth fighting.
Isnt Confiteor like, a big nuke tho
that
"instantly" draws target, yeah sure
Takes a good full second for the pull to start, you basically have the time to walk to your target before it finishes being pulled
People don't like to play the objective man they really don't
How is everyone getting that ember looking pvp gear btw
I've been spamming pvp for garo gear
series level 25, from the battle pass
Battle pass? What. No idea there was a BP in this game wtf.
They added a free battle pass with the newest update. All the current rewards get added to the Crystal shop at the start of the next season.
Ok..so. I've just been doing it and not knowing. Do I need to just hit certain thresholds and rewards are automatic or do I need to spend a currency somewhere. I see this new one next to wolf marks.
why the fuck is hotbar copy command disabled in Wolves Den
like what reason
someone tell me
We platinum now
Go to PVP profile and in the top right area should be a Series button
You can claim your rewards there
Why do you need a hotbar copy in Wolves Den?

Went on a winstreak from gold 4 - 0 stars to platinum; Feels pretty damn good but it doesn't feel earned
You need to use /pvphotbar instead of /hotbar
oh
They're two separate hotbars, so they each get their own command
nice, thanks
Go into your PvP Profile and click on "Series Malmstones"
There's several rewards in there, including the Hellhound Armor set and an emote
There's also the Trophy Crystals that you can use yo exchange for Wolf Collars, which will allow you to buy the Hellhound weapons to match your armor
Where do I exchange the trophy crystals
The vendor next to the wolf mark vendor in the ship at the wolves den
I am looking to get deep into the pvp as a new player. I wanted to learn the classes in pve first but sounds like pvp and pve skills are not even close to similar? So am I better off just jumping into the pvp once I hit 30?
If you want to play PvP mostly you don't need to know the PvE equivalent of the classes AT ALL
They're completely different
Thanks. Good to know. Will have to learn the hard way than ⚰
you also don't have to level the jobs to have the entire kit 
all u need is lvl 30 and the job quest to get your job stone
reaper sage dancer rdm drk mch can all be got easy cus they start above 30, not sure if im forgetting one
ast crying rn
Can be gotten easy or I have to grind to 50 for example for the machinist?
ah well, u need atleast 1 class high enough level to unlock stuff
i think sage/reaper requires 70
Got my rogue/ninja
well for mch drk and ast you need ishgard unlocked
O ok nm I misunderstood. Ya I'll get those. Just the starting ones I have I have grind up to 30. Got it
Ya for pve I'll focus 1 or 2 cause I can't decide between ninja or machinist 😂 and pvp I want to try them all
so far the ones ive tried have all been fun, tho if u really wana carry in ranked theres like 6-7 that are a bit above the rest
but the others arent so far behind you cant play them and do well in unranked
Definetly. I'm sure I'll learn what's best once I'm ready for ranked and what I like for my playstyle
atm id say , rdm drg war whitemage samurai summoner mch bard are all really strong
BRD doesn't seem that strong, imo. At least, I've never been wary of bards on the other team.
Whereas if I see an RDM, WAR, or WHM, I go "shit."
they just enable the other classes with their lb and silences
Ya, it's nice CC. But it feels like RDM, SMN, and MCH contribute more.
so it doesnt feel like they hard carry but they are stronk
drg dmg is so fast tho lol, and half ranged, scary af
I wish I could see the DRG LB... currently, the only way I can tell is if they're still alive but not visible. I know they jump up, but it's hard to tell in the midst of action. :')
MCH LB gets a little + mark to indicate it, so why can't DRG LB have an indicator, too..!
BRD is very good, but you need to play around others
Bard has some decent damage from range. Dunno how good the burst is though
Bard's individual burst isn't good, but I just enjoy playing ti to be a nuisance to enemies lol
will i get alot more series malmstones doing frontline roulette than a crystalize conflict?
frontline roulette is once a day
the bonus that is
after that it just gives 500/750/1000 depends on your placement
How do you play whm in crystal conflict because it seems when I spawn the whole other team will just follow me to the back of the spawn?
if they do that they've already lost
yeah, the objective is to push the crystal to the opponent's base heh
run em around goose chases using the bonus speed side parts, loop around to the health pots or your backline so they can help you kill em
I think I just watched two DRGs wipe out each other's teams at the same time
mmm, Black Mage feels so fun to play
Man frontlines would be so much more interesting with only 2 team there
Having the pepega losing team just perma rush you down is so fucking boring
that's great
you haven't experienced if the losing team rushing the 2nd place team while the 1st place team just smoking weed at the base
what I usually get is the 1st team taking all the objectives, while the second team pushes all the way into the losing team's spawn (mine)
Same scenario with me doing pvp daily yesterday. 
pffft
kek
can someone explian to me how overtime works??
playing whm in crystalline conflict makes me angy
That’s why I play warrior. Me unga bunga. Me smash puny team on point.
I feel like dragoon lb is overtuned, no way to see it coming and does like 90% of your hp
theres a marker where it'll land, its pretty hard to see in bright sunlight in the chaos of combat though
its a pubstomper, because its balanced around how much time it gives you to react, and at some point people learn how to react to it accordingly.
Idk how you're supposed to see it with 1 million particle effects on the screen in the middle of combat
you can turn those off or at least simplify them.
simplified still shows lb's right?
though it'll look like the other team is just doing poses and you're dying to nothing lol
you dont need particles to know what is being cast
its just matchup experience that you'll gain over time
like you'll learn to see a powered Drill coming by the sound the analysis makes, or to not attack a samurai who is doing the kaiten
etc.
It's me or there's Hacks on PVP?, Some situations that i've seen today it's anything but a standard gameplay.
What happened
There's definitely already hackers
Someone told me they had someone from the enemy team in their spawn during start up lol
Healer with over 1m Heal points, a WAR that tooking too low damage, people using Recuperate automatically etc
Recuperate is weavable
Also infinite and without the animation where your characters just move without open their arms for the skill animation?
You can use up to 4 times in a row
i have zero awareness of any of that XD
Start building it
Battle awareness is the most important thing to have in competitive modes
i can maybe have some macro awareness of things people might be trying/planning overall, but i dont think i'd ever have that microawareness at a skill use level
zepla just carried me in pvp 
Monk tips?
is there a way to see who's attacking u other than visually?
like i cant tell when im getting ranged attacked
What are the time-limited items and/or awards? Just wondering if I should be aiming for something specific, or if it's alright to prog more sporadically. Been using my Wolf Marks on random goodies as well.
garo, probably will last till 7.0(?)
assuming the old pattern where It lasted for 3 years
people spamming CC is not solely because of the reward, it's cause it's addictive loll
Well, ya. I’ve been spamming it because I’m addicted. 😆
Been wondering if I should aim for the rewards as well, but if they’re around for that long— eh.
Well, you’ll probably have more wolf marks then you could ever use. Might as well buy the Garo stuff and get the title so you can get the achievements 
Remember, Calamity Salvager has Garo stuff for rebuy too so you can buy sets, get your achievement and toss them out of your inventory if you want.
Yep
The only things you need to hold onto are the PLD shield and any set of accessories (they’re all-class)
That’s good to know
The only good rewards are the tier rewards. The top 100 rewards are a joke, except top 1 but that's just asinine to grind so hard for a portrait that currently is only really used for pvp
I wish there was a way to report people for chat spam or afking in pvp
because I just had a player who did both
are certain rewards locked behind ranked CC matches? or at least will be later on
what kind of rewards?
people need to understand that this PVP is holding crystal objective and not 1v1 in the corner for 10 mins straight
and I hate MNK/DRG/SAM folks who just jump far away from rest of the team and expect me to heal them.
we have recup lol
they used them all
and then they keep spamming chat asking for heal
and I am like "nope"
then they are bad










