we were locked to one item per week
#endgame-lounge
dull radish
yeah it hasn't changed at all
current tier normal is weekly locked, one token per floor per week
dusty dirge
ah ok I did regular eden floors the other week
they lift it after the 5.3 cycle then?
lyric summit
yep, with 5.3 eden normal's 480 gear will be uncapped and new nier 24man's 490 gear will be one piece per week
loud kite
can we talk about black mage in 5.2
lyric summit
sure
loud kite
hows black mage in 5.2
the job appeals to me a lot but ive been hearing a lot of... "good luck"
stable basin
it good
nova socket
A lot of bad players struggle with it but it's very good
uncut charm
a very "competitive" job too
uncut charm
forsaken 1 for?
loud kite
struggle in terms of savages having a lot of moving around?
foggy latch
light rampant
uncut charm
the one where tank freeze?
foggy latch
2nd forsaken is simple
foggy latch
its always same ppl get same mechs
uncut charm
if you want to be safe boi you lose uptime like TpS
if you want uptime it looks dangerous
uncut charm
yeah tps is safer
we initially did uptime for the first light rampant
keep failing so we decided to do safeboi for now just to see more mechanics first
foggy latch
uptime light rampant looks high iq
uncut charm
sec
stable basin
we spent like 30 mins trying uptime rampant and decided just pepega for uptime with our current strat
idk what ours is I think someone called it Ilya?
foggy latch
we cross orbs
uncut charm
if your orb spawns opposite you at the start your life is easy
foggy latch
and adjust to 2nd tower
stable basin
we do orbs opposite, chains take both proteans and orbs take second tower
uncut charm
if it is on your left/right it gets tricky to move to opposite the orbs to start exactly like the first frame
stable basin
yeah that's our strat
it's really really good imo in terms of getting the mechanic done
uncut charm
the movement is tighter tho
stable basin
but you lose a TON of uptime on melee without going really risky
uncut charm
like sometimes if you kite badly the orb ends up too close to the towers
foggy latch
only problem is i have to follow the other orb so boss is within my dance range ( abit high iq but not hard )
well, rip
week 2 will make dps check slightly easier with pants/chest i490 along with whatever 7 drops we get from E5S - E7S
stable basin
we all bought accessories for the week 1 dps check
pepehands
well i say that like it's guaranteed we won't clear
we still might
but low chance I think
foggy latch
holy shit that tight dps check
even minilvl E4S wasnt that bad
getting her below 40% before redress mirrors is super tight
and 25% before 2nd forsaken
we were 28%
uncut charm
people were joking
already
why is t his harder than tea
during the first light rampant
I was telling my grp
fuck this shit, I'd do limit cut any day
uncut charm
"just burst earth adds before it finish casting stoneskin"
bruh that shit started casting it like right after it spawns
foggy latch
burst earth add before it cast stoneskin is bad idea
uncut charm
yeah I just noped and interject it
foggy latch
u want it live longer
foggy latch
i would say
its like chrysalis
but yea
cause water add is fkn tank
that wont die
thunder should be killed asap cause fuck that reflect
better if before casting reflect
ty to my dance it drop it to like 10% hp
with 1 button
foggy latch
and my side we are doing too much dps
nova socket
yeh I intentionally delay my dmg on ½ of the adds to make sure I have everything up
foggy latch
tend to afk for 5 secs between waves
and yes i dont use tech in adds
so i have it up at reopener
can i say that dragonhead + akh morns is cancer mechanic to healers?
stable basin
3rd wave of adds is uh
gcd on whateveri s closest
run over to interuppt rock boi
grab tether
run over and stun water boi
uncut charm
cant you leave the tether to a healer/range
stable basin
probably but we're not changing stuff rn
nova socket
we do healer ranged tank melee for tethers
You get debuff which kills you if you take two
nova socket
depends on how you use cds on which one is better I guess, with tank 3rd I get to use gcd + two ogcds and take tether thenjump back
while melee takes their tether after we kill tanky boi
foggy latch
also i ldk if act is broken or not
says thunder add has 40k hp
but my 70k standard drop it to 10%
nova socket
tbh idk how much hp they have but I just know that assize + some chip damage kills them
foggy latch
it took us a while to understand that double hallowed wings mirrors does 2 double busters
1st and 5th guy in line both eat buster twice
nova socket
the mirrors are very confusing yeh
also the snapshot on them is like wayyyyyyyy
before the actual knockback, it snapshots when the cast finishes
so ppl like cough melees were slow for like 10 pulls and got me killed.
foggy latch
sweet blade
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
foggy latch
just
type
more
ppl dont need to see it right
i smell a warning
but we will see
sweet blade
No warning
sweet blade
Oh then go ahead Dan
foggy latch
opal hollow
Nice
sweet blade
You just got back from holiday, you deserve it
storm frostBOT
Warning issued for darkness#6984
nova socket
Unlucky
foggy latch
meanwhile #retired-eu-datacentres and #general-discussion have all the fun but ok
kindred bison
native tangle
I have kind of a stupid question : it's the first I'm actually playing a new patch at the start (I reach lvl80 3 months after everyone) and I have no idea how to gear 😦 I did Ruby normal and E5N with an ilvl465, and it was clear it was not good, but how am I suppose to up that ? eden normal seems to (slowly) provide some 480 gear, crafted is crazy expensive (25 million the piece on my server), how do most people gear ?
lyric summit
get 470 through phantasmagoria tomes and nier then just cap weekly stuff same as everyone
the gearing process basically "resets" with every even patch
everyone's gonna be getting the slow stuff, 450 tomes of allegory per week and eden normal drops
crafted isn't neccesary since you'll be replacing it with tome gear
the only "boost" you can get to surpass others is getting lucky with savage drops, but learning savage can take a while for casual players
native tangle
Phantasmagoria tomes are the one you can now freely farm, right ?
470 should already be better, I'm fine with the slow stuff after that, I was just sure I was missing something between 460 and 480
rapid sapphire
what vis said (last eden/450 + phanty/460 should help get to a point where can more comfortably work on current stuff or farming copied factory for upgrade coins)
yes phantasmagoria don't have a weekly cap
earnest current
Hello, is there a discord focused on savage raid for the light datacenter ?
torn kindle
Maybe this one? http://discord.gg/dxPgKmc
earnest current
Thanks
native tangle
Okay, thank you !
tawdry matrix
Oh I see what you meant lol
iron seal
ye
tawdry matrix
Yeah better keep it here about end-game
tawdry matrix
So yeah on healers it would be Crit+Determination
Astro doesn't need spell speed at all
iron seal
ok at what numbers do you want like
someone said my 1200 spell speed was low
but i'm like eh lightspeed is a spell
tawdry matrix
And direct hit would only affect your damage, not healing
Yeah you don't listen to it
tawdry matrix
You make sure you have highest amount of crit
iron seal
and 2k+ det and dhit
tawdry matrix
Meld it in items where it's not capped
iron seal
that's what i'm doing atm at eulmore
tawdry matrix
Then you go for determination
iron seal
so like just get 3k crit and then just det?
tawdry matrix
When you get both Crit and Det capped - meld direct hit
You can't really get 3k of each
Because there's only so much stats available
You're also 480+ already
tawdry matrix
Your item level
tawdry matrix
Yeah, to get bettet at this point you need to optimize your class now
Because all damage that you're gonna get is like few percentages
When optimizing your uptime would actually make a larger difference
Plus it will largerly depend on your co-healer
And how you guys spread your healing/damage
tawdry matrix
As in, one is healing more and you're damaging more
iron seal
so i use those a lot
and they said
astro uses spell speed
because of all those regens
sinc
tawdry matrix
Spell speed doesn't affect power of regens
iron seal
the spell speed
tawdry matrix
Not anymore
iron seal
effects the tick
oh
it's just in the system
but for nothing
cause i scrolled over it
tawdry matrix
Regen ticks happening once every 3 seconds afaik
tawdry matrix
Yeah it increases potency of regen
not how often it happens
And it doesn't increase by A LOT
iron seal
ye i mean
ym regens already crit for 17k
so if i crit more often
that should be better
nova socket
You want crit to do more damage as a primary reason
tawdry matrix
There's no cap
tawdry matrix
No
Spit on them
Crit grows your power exponentially
I.e. it doesn't only increase % at which you crit
iron seal
goddamnit
tawdry matrix
it also increases % of the crit damage
I.e. you get like 25% crit chance and 150% critical damage
with higher stat you'll have 40% crit chance and 170% critical damage
Direct hit is fixed 125% proc multiplier
But
it also can proc on top of Critical damage
iron seal
hmm
tawdry matrix
So that 170% (already high damage) can further be multiplied by 125%
tawdry matrix
BUT
Because healers can't direct hit heal
And it doesn't increase healing potencies
tawdry matrix
Yeah cap means when you just physically can't put any more crit
iron seal
ye
tawdry matrix
In that meaning cap exists
iron seal
they told me like
tawdry matrix
But not like numbers
tawdry matrix
BULLSHIT
Crit is actually better the more you have it
It's been like that since forever
But
When they changed it back in ... uh
tawdry matrix
Heavensward? probably
There wasn't much crit at all
That's when they've added direct hit instead of Accuracy (god bless this shit)
There just wasn't enough crit on gear
I.e. some classes couldn't make crit more potent that direct hit
While others could, because their BIS gear actually had a lot of crit
So on some classes it was better to stack more Dhit, EVEN ON HEALERS (lol)
iron seal
lol
tawdry matrix
But nowadays there's enough Crit, so you first try to get as much of it as possible
iron seal
ok with what i have now
i got
2630
crit
2137 det
1243 spell speed
and 380 dhit
and 2311 piety
nova socket
That's why you use balance to not get fed misinformation :)
tawdry matrix
Well, mind is always above everything
But you can't meld it and you get it from ilvl
nova socket
!faq balance
tawdry matrix
!faq balance
tawdry matrix
v-v
iron seal
too slow bogy
nova socket
first
nova socket
tawdry matrix
Well I'm sorry your ISP is closer to Niko than to me
tawdry matrix
D:<
tawdry matrix
Well, either way
iron seal
but ye sorry for confusing you
tawdry matrix
You can check this https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/c8qq65/50_stat_intervals/
Then balance
tawdry matrix
iron seal
i just rawdogged content
and got to where i am ;
:3
also why is there no marketboard in eulmore..
🔪
petition when
tawdry matrix
Wait
Lmao
I completely forgot that healers don't have direct hit on their gear
FORGET ABOUT DIRECT HIT
ABORT
quick verge
that's why you meld it
tawdry matrix
I don't think that you actually need to meld vit now?
nova socket
nop
tawdry matrix
Do things kill you in current savage?
tawdry matrix
Because people melded vit simply because for progression
When things were hitting hard and shit
steady pebble
main stat materia are no longer a thing
tawdry matrix
Oh right you can't even meld it, not a huge loss :D
nova socket
tanks could meld tenacity for like a few percent passive defence increase
but idk anyone who actually did it
tawdry matrix
Nobody does, afaik difference between the BIS and the worst gear was like ... 5%?
With same ilvl for that matter
Damn I can't copy stuff from ariyala
iron seal
mm
nova socket
just have billion piety with crafted gear
ast resses 3x still has mana to heal
I had to use one res on ast in i470 gear I was oom
quick verge
when sqex wants you to resign to the role of healer so they give you 10000 piety
strong timber
Just me or are the dps checks so lenient in this new tier
glacial plaza
What are the pfs strats for e5s? Ive been going at it with a static and i think im ready for a clear but wanna make sure theres isnt something i havent heard of lmfao
strong timber
Yeah
glacial plaza
Do you grab 2 stacks of orbs?
strong timber
Usually HRM
glacial plaza
Or 3?
glacial plaza
Alright bet
strong timber
Don’t know if it actually reduces damage from chain lightning but like
Just ask around cause I don’t got the answer to that one
glacial plaza
Its all good haha thanks for the answer my friend
Btw is it random if ramuh goes north or south for the bracer? Only thing i havent paid attention to
dusty dirge
first time I saw Iconoclasm in FFXIV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1BVYik3AGA
I thought it was Iconoclast\
XD
flat roost
Is there a way to make a hotbar only show up inside combat?
Im thinking of making a cooldown hotbar at t he center of the screen, but I dont want it to show all the time
flat roost
earnest current
I'm curious about something in E6S, would it be a dps gain to pop a range lb2 on ifrit and garuda right when you can damage them both ?
dull radish
well, when they're first there you can hit both, the debuffs take a little bit to come out
I think something like, a precast caster LB might be worthwhile?
quick verge
it takes a little while for the debuffs to go out
as i can get a geirs/nastrond on both if i do something specific
so you could precast comfortably
probably when ifrit jumps away
stable basin
big gratz
serene lotus
Nice, round DPS numbers
uncut charm
Big grats
polar iron
lavish rose
can someone give me a list of all dps rotations?
torn kindle
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
torn kindle
Go here for guides for each class
visual whale
dumb question about Ifrit Soccer: is there a pattern that Ifrit kicks toward the center and this Ifrit positioning becomes a safe spot?
foggy latch
5% E8S enrage with 3 deaths
also gz niko
@visual whale safe spot is where ifrit kick 2 balls
doesnt matter where he kick balls as long its 2
last geode
I have a question
For E5S
the tank taking centaur charge gets knocked back
how do they get knocked back to the edge of the platform and off
because I was sure that the tank took an orb
lyric summit
they need to use the duty action
foggy latch
Stand Firm
nova socket
the fury 14 was so jebait for a long time
honestly took us the longest to figure out how it works
foggy latch
idk why i thought if i stood in front of rod as i get pushed will break it
then it actually worked
vital hound
hey im relatively new to raiding in ffxiv, how does one queue for extreme cinder drift? do i need to be in a group? i completed the regular version and it seemed to tell me i unlocked it, but there is no option in my duty finder
sharp lark
it's under raid finder
but party finder is usually the best way to find a party to join
vital hound
so its not under trials // high-end trials like the others?
sharp lark
when a new fight comes out, they usually put it under Raid Finder. when it gets outdated, they move it to Duty Finder
vital hound
ohhh gotcha
sharp lark
at least for new Savage and Extreme content
stable basin
The check mark in party finder, does that mean they have that role or need it? I've been wanting to use party finder but I'm not sure if it's as simple as just joining a recruiting group.
torn kindle
I like it, it has options for super big pulls past the first and second boss if you’re brave enough
Check mark means that role is filled
stable basin
Gotchu. Thanks 🤙
dull radish
yeah the big pulls are nice but nobody really does them other than with a premade, unfortunately
and the start is so slow
I do like the bosses though
umbral oyster
rose atlas
@polar iron what happened
single pulling?
i met a whm in e6n saying
'i dont have mana to dps, its day 2'
which is
an HORRIBLE excuse
dull radish
nah that's the start of the dungeon, can't single pull. Looks like the first sets of adds took ages to die
rose atlas
i dont have anamnesis unlocked
but god that shithead of a healer pissed me off
'i dOnT haVE mAna to dPs, its dAy 2'
other healer wasnt doing jack in terms of dps aswell
and the other dps defended the healers because they were keeping them alive
15m e6n run
smfh
wait this isnt #rants
turbid canopy
15 minute e6n? you sure you werent in some 15 minute ultimate run lol
cant imagine killing that boss for 15 minutes
foggy latch
stable basin
wew lad
lyric summit
just wait till americans upload their weeklies
always falls by like 10 percentile lul
stable basin
I'm 100th percentile
in normal mode
rankings are all jacked up because so few uploads rn
rank 10 ramuh barely orange
lyric summit
on dancer? it's basics 
on our non pot run
stable basin
I'm gonna scream if my static is still behind the check when we get back to shiva this week
stable basin
it's pretty hard but I'm big fan
nova socket
I wish more fights were like shiva
stable basin
Titan dps check except it also has some mechanics
quick verge
melee downtime is a mechanic
nova socket
@stable basin
stable basin
WANT
stable basin
hmm anyone know if tanks can just sit on top of ruby and cooldown for cut and run asking for a friend
uncut charm
Wdym, press CD and just eat the swipes?
stable basin
yea
uncut charm
You can only eat one
stable basin
feels bad
if you stand like centered on the wall do you get hit multiple times
what I'm asking is how do I get my precious gcd when there's a drg who wants to stand close to the boss
uncut charm
As in getting that last bit before he comes untargettable?
uncut charm
Do you really need to run to Narnia 
The first dodge the party are near the center anyways since the quicksand is the outer ring
stable basin
cut and run not ravensflight
nimble river
Question to all but how good is 14's cosmetic system compared to Guild Wars 2? I always liked how in GW2 you can change pieces of your armor, change the color of certain pieces, and mix/mash until you got what you wanted.
Does the game get better in that department?
uncut charm
Oh that shit
I suppose your party is making it melee > dps > healer > tank for cut and run?
stable basin
prolly cause closest to proximity
uncut charm
I'm pretty sure if you want to disrespect you can certainly do melee > tank > healer > ranged
stable basin
I think tank closest makes the most sense if ppl stand a hair too close
nova socket
Just use invuln on run and cut
quick verge
nobody worth their job crystal is healing a drk doing that
stable basin
yeah you get rekt if you stand on it for cut and run lol
quick verge
no
you can survive a hit or 2 as tank
but you're still eating several vulns depending on how you uptime it
a hit or 4 i guess on tank
quick verge
it's fine with any other invuln
superbolide is just superbolide
hg is hg
war can just self-heal even when they drop to 1 using holmgang
uncut charm
Theres still the proximity damage incoming tho and you have vul stacks. Not sure how it will work out in pugs since I don't actually think pug healers pay attention to what shenanigans the tank is doing
quick verge
the proximity damage does no damage to dps/healers, and even less to tanks
idk if there's any incoming tbs though
cause that's gl above 2 stacks
uncut charm
yeah he was fed 2 weeks
btw on the cut and run
no immedaite incoming tb
you should be able to survive 2 vul stack tb anyways
(been there during prog cos I'm pepega)
stable basin
I tried it with one vuln already and got shredded
might be ok with no starting stacks
but I just ran back if ppl didn't give me space and stood on the side basically in the middle
if I messed up I only got hit once
and then I got rank 2 p2 because they killed the other tank comet and jacked off for a bit
quick verge
skip tank comets
uncut charm
can you make a dps take comet and you cover it
torn kindle
!action cover
storm frostBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
torn kindle
12 seconds sounds a bit tight if it works, unless everyone focuses it
well, the DPS can take a single damage tick, so maybe a bit longer
but in that case why not just have the paladin take it in the first place so it dies faster?
uncut charm
obviously
It's for muh parsing purposes
I mean I know how cover works and its duration, but I'm not sure if cover works for that mechanic
like how rescue doesn't work if you are being stunned by Shiva's Shining Armor
torn kindle
yeah the command was more for me remembering the duration
since I haven't played paladin in forever
and cover isn't used that much
mint falcon
Just out of curiosity, is it possible to skip the tank swap in ruby weapon's add phase during phase 2 with current gear?
mint falcon
Huh
I thought maybe in a dragon farm party or maybe 2 or so weeks from now when more tomestone and eden gear is available but it's possible now?
Never mind, thanks for the info
stable basin
people have to be good at pressing buttons
Likely won't see it in a pug
but my static farmed weapons for e8s and we were killing at least one of the adds before the buster pretty consistently
we were still behind check on e8s though
mint falcon
That's interesting to know, frankly I'm starting to get the suspicion that Ruby Weapon's quick first phase and horrifying second phase is causing everyone to freeze up and stop pressing buttons, especially healers.
stable basin
I think a lot of people are blowing their load on the boss instead of the adds too
mint falcon
But thanks for the info again on the dps needed for Ruby Weapon and e8s. I was thinking about trying that at least in 5.3
stable basin
3rd gcd chain
6th gcd it goes invulnerable
wew lad
Yeah Shiva real fun. And reeeaal tight at i480.
mint falcon
Quick question. In your opinion, if you have a DNC or are a DNC, would you want them to delay technical + devilment until the adds appear or have it go on as a standard opener?
stable basin
that's tough and probably depends on killtime
we were just having everyone do their regular opener on the adds
oh here's someone who actually knows how to dnc
foggy latch
for ruby i just use it always
on cd
you cant hit both adds after all
no point to delay
mint falcon
Fair, it makes sense that the extra 5 seconds of tech won't make or break a run normally
stable basin
buff alignment would be real interesting for speedruns
probably 2mins on adds then 2+3+pot when next 2mins come up or something
mint falcon
Fair, just a trap party with a lazy PLD who rather invul instead of swap adds and called everyone out for low dps for not skipping the swap
stable basin
that's a big thonk right there
mint falcon
Exactly, I thought the usual thing to do with a PLD is have the PLD save hallowed until meteors so the party can focus dps on the other tank first
stable basin
yeah
mint falcon
Thanks for the info again @foggy latch and @stable basin
foggy latch
the only time i had to delay tech was in E7S along with E8S adds
since boss seperate us by certain mech and everyone wouldnt get the buff
uncut charm
Likely won't see it in a pug
first few days in JP yes
seen it a handful of times when I farm in RF
sometimes both dies before change of heart is complete, or one of it dies and thus no need to swap
turbid steppe
U P T I M E
simple sky
fuck uptime obv
quick verge
also naming your group after an ability
above average chromosome count in use right there
sweet blade
Only if you carry me
dull radish
heya Brit <3
simple sky
we will carry each other
unreal flax
I am surprisingly strong and dense. I can carry all
dull radish
very powerful
unreal flax
Oh, by the way, how did/is the world race go/going?
dull radish
JP 1st and 2nd, TPS 3rd
hollow vine
why am i seeing cinder ex parties up with "no rotation" in their description? does that mean you don't rotate for liquification? don't melees lose uptime...?
stable basin
yes
hollow vine
please tell me its not because people consider rotating too hard
or that groups mess it up
stable basin
hit it on the head
hollow vine
but
stable basin
unfortunately
torn kindle
Ehh, to be fair the DPS check for Phase 1 is lenient as hell
If not rotating makes people not die then whatever
nova socket
this game is trash
foggy latch
that was going to be a clear
p1 ended at 69
and icelit started at 24
but someone fucked it up and we wiped
ughhhhh
next raid in friday ugh
nova socket
I got gloves belt boots earring 
even tho 2 pieces arent bis its 20 ilvl
mint falcon
ilvl is pretty important usually, and differences between substats are minimal now (unless you count skill/spell speed throwing a class off)
kind schooner
everyone in this friendschat is saying how easy ruby ex actually is and we got one guy who still hasnt beat it after two dozen hours lol oof
is crystal really that hard to do endgame stuff on
iron seal
i don't get how people can be such monkeys in eden savage
you do the same mistake 11 times in a row
and ask for forgiveness
no you get a boot.
nova socket
on any of them if you keep doing the same mistake on clear/weekly parties you dont get any forgiveness 
kind schooner
Forgiven Stupidty is a forgiveness
heavy mist
if its blind prog and testing its okay, but 😟
shy mural
what stats should ast be aiming for?
quaint marten
Piety until you are comfortable then crit > dh/det
Spellspeed shouldnt an issue since ast casts are mostly half GCD
thorn bear
FUN FACT: You cannot invuln the wrong color orbs in e7s
source: taking first and second orbs accidentally during tornado and taking 9,999,999
stable basin
Reddit's infinite wisdom: hey non-piloted sales can still get away with it
uncut charm
wait holy shit
I just went to the linked CN official site
they actually named and shamed
The character name and their servers are all listed
golden spear
in savage, is there any weird meta when healers want to pop tinctures?
lyric summit
don't think so, it's still the biggest gain to use them under raid buffs like other roles
@lusty turret confirm
lusty turret
no. healers gain most when least healing
or when you have presence of mind as whm for example
but yea, if buffs are outside of healing windows, might as well delay pots for that window
kind schooner
Me now ready to join a static and start e5s only to see every person in my friends-chat that has a static is full
vivid vigil
simple sky
get that PUG LYFE
foggy latch
hmm.low purple not bad
whole tundra
@kind schooner not only that but midcore recruitment seems more like hardcore and they demand a lot lmao. alternatively midcore recruitment seemed too casual. amorphous af
kind schooner
I dont mind going into like a two night a week team that wont see E8S for a few weeks but as long as we arent like stuck on E5/6 for several lockouts. Esp since all my friends say 5 and 6 are easy
I used to be on a 3 day a week 3 hours a night team in WoW and I got sick of it after like 4 months
whole tundra
same
inland ore
3 hours a day 3 days a week is about pretty standard scheduling for a lot of statics. There are certainly groups that do less, but those groups tend to be more on the casual side nor just in terms of hours but skill level as well. You might find a holy grail group that has good players that just happen to not want to play that much, but that's increasingly unlikely now that the tier has already started.
kind schooner
Yeah feels like I'm getting a bit left behind because I wasnt prepared to raid week 1, especially since this is the first tier I've wanted to prog in. Kind of a shame
All my other friends are like "Yay we cleared E6S, not too bad, 7 prog time!" and I'm still like "heeey anyone need a dps for e5s?"
heavy mountain
I found a static that rolls 2 nights 2 hrs a week, we meet Tues/wed. The players are solid enough that were making progress, so it's nice.
I found it by just scanning the raid server on discord
I'd do more than that, but I work full time and keep pretty busy so it's just not feasible
kind schooner
Another thing that sucks, I work flex on weekdays so I literally can never guarentee I can play on a weekday evening
I can guarantee a show up on sat/sun tho but it cant go into 11PM eastern
inland ore
There are groups that don't have a set schedule and just go by "okay when are people available this week?"
kind schooner
Not a fan of that, too much pugging probably
And why I dont want to pug to fill a static's spot, if we fail and cant get the clear that night I'll never see them again
whole tundra
o ya that works better if they have a larger pool
kind schooner
Oh my team was like that once but it got to the point so many people would apply I would randomly be left out especially on bosses I needed. And it would suck extra if they had a good night and cleared the raid for the week right there
I lost our team's first heroic archimonde clear like that :l
orchid terrace
I've been wondering have yet to do e5s ~ e8s, is there anything special for clearing e8s like how you got the skyslipper in e4s? 
turbid steppe
||Yes you get ramuh as a mount|| @orchid terrace
orchid terrace
Ooo that's sick~ Thanks for answering, I appreciate it ❤️
uncut charm
is that 1 sec enrage
stable basin
that's full died to enrage duration
uncut charm
yeah thats what I meant since iirc the duration is 14mins sharp
uncut charm
soon ™️ you'll get it
nova socket
Is it people trying to hard respect mechanics or just not very good button pressers?
stable basin
feel like more the latter
I'm only 1k ahead of my cotank in p1 now instead of 2k...
nova socket
I wish I was ahead of my co-tank
quick verge
just do more damage
nova socket
He's like "yeh I have every gcd mapped until enrage"
while im "let me press buttons when they come off cooldown :D"
stable basin
me irl
quick verge
that's pretty much what it is
stable basin
someone got clipped by dragon head at last wyrm's lament
went into icelit at 25%
reeeeee
proven saddle
bruh how do people deal with all the information on the screen in raids
I need a really neat HUD but it's hard to create it
last geode
So 14 mins enrage for the Shiva fight?
stable basin
yup
restive pulsar
Whats the best way to handle cornflaf strike?
lyric summit
is there more than one way?
tanks bait tornados, healers heal them, dps bait chains and dodge the same way
uncut charm
I think if tanks have invul there, would be good to use it so healers can dps instead of topping you up too
fire tonados hurts like fuck
if you actually have a vul stack entering that part you are pretty much toasted without invul
civic cargo
are pre-5.2 extremes frozen on fflogs? Friend got a 99 parse as a RDM on Titania Ex and it won't show up on their profile
rank 9 parse, even
uncut charm
Not sure of the current policies. In SB you can still upload ex logs in the new tier, but raids are locked
I'm not surprised if the locked ex as well
civic cargo
kind of a shame for someone like me who wasn't raid ready when they were relevant and now can't even record logs xD
uncut charm
Well, no real meaning either since you are beyond the max gear level designed for that patch
civic cargo
that's also true, but isn't that what patch selection is for?
(i just wanna get that horrible 30% E3N off my profile)
civic cargo
excuse me if I say anything dumb, I'm still quite new to endgame
but I'm.. competent? I guess?
https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/13719069
uncut charm
Yes that looks good
Too bad then but then again it's normal mode so
(I mean your 3N)
civic cargo
my static wiped on 0.9% E5N on our last pull of our last raid day this week 
civic cargo
yeah, I'm running full crafted for SCH and SMN (two different statics cause I'm dumb). I just use Eden's Verse to gear out Paladin since I use that to roulette some materia up
I need a better E6N parse but I only DF normal mode and people suck at E6N
hard to dps when everyone keeps dying
minor estuary
nova socket
!wl @nova socket
storm frostBOT
deft portal
Oh sheet, dat 100 
nova socket
I don't have to think about playing the game when I play drk so its superior prog job
nova socket
I'll go back to gnb when I have gear :)
foggy latch
this dps check is tight as damn fuck 1 dmg down 1% enrage
crystal sand
for playing BRD, do i have to snap shot my DOT's just with my own dmg up buff or that AND on every single DMG buff(AST cards, RDM dmg buff, ect)?
foggy latch
you only do it at opener
otherwise you dont
its dps loss in almost every case outside opener
crystal sand
so snapshoting others buffs isn't important at all like all the guides are saying?
foggy latch
after 5.1 nerfs to dots no
guess you are reading outdated guide
check balance as it has updated guide
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
crystal sand
isn't the balance late on updating info? least when i was looking for NIN updated stuff after 5.1 dropped, they didn't have their doc up for like a month
blazing pelican
The job was completely reworked after 5.1 and their mentors are unpaid volunteers
You want it done super fast? Pay me.
quick verge
also takes time to make sure information about how to best play a job is accurate
crystal sand
is there a tip jar or something for that? or is it because XIV terms doesn't allow it?
lyric summit
early access to guides is listed as one of the benefits on the balance patron but a. it's early guides that most likely are very likely to chsnge and b. who knows how up to date the patreon benefits other than name color change are cause could be they're not publishing early guides at all, since they're subject to change most of the time and what's the point in publishing a guide if it's wrong
need @dull radish input cause is a publisher of balance guides
dull radish
yeah mostly sometimes it takes a bit of extra time to do some testing and make appropriate updates to guides, especially in cases where jobs undergo a good bit of change. Also can be some cases where changes happen with new content, which can take up a good bit of extra time as well. But overall, we always want to make sure we're putting forth the best, most accurate information that we can, so occasionally there will be a slight delay, and usually end up being fairly prompt nonetheless with any updated information
heavy mist
you could also scour the questions/lounge area of the balance and read about people talking about the changes if anything assuming no guides
more work, but its info
nova socket
1 dmg down should still be fine assuming people play well
nova socket
grats
quick verge
what happened to a*u
tame plinth
grats
rose atlas
@blazing pelican how much do you want
blazing pelican
my fees start at 100$ an hour
rose atlas
what can you do that the balance cant
blazing pelican
maintain a social life
quick verge
scathing
severe notch
don't know how we got this but i'm laughing
severe notch
That's damage taken
rose atlas
yeah i should had specified lul
actually id prog colours right now but uh
i think my friend is having a mental breakdown
rose atlas
i want to but its like 1 am
im going out to yorkdale tomorrow
im listening and giving them advice
mint falcon
Thoughts on using physical ranged lb1 to hit comets + ruby weapon in phase 2 of ex?
mint falcon
Hmm, the math checks out. If I don't get marked for bradamante and hit all three targets, that would mean 1650 x 3 for 4950 potency.
Add that onto a potential lb2 from a melee during the soft enrage and the total becomes 10200 potency compared to the 9000 from melee lb3
If I get marked for bradamante and have to bait while the party kills a comet during the meantime, the total becomes 8550 so it might be better for the melee to use lb3 then
Granted, the downside is if the party mostly wipes during the soft enrage if no one mitigates, there isn't a lb3 to pick everyone up at that last second
ruby marsh
lemme checc
well hes not in wright
anyone know if picking the npc in the last 5.2 quest affects whos in the overworld
(i picked granson )
foggy latch
@mint falcon the lb isnt long enough to hit all 3
mint falcon
Really? I could have sworn I hit all three. It should be almost exactly 30 yalms from one hitbox of the meteor to another.
foggy latch
arena width is as big as titan but titan is square and ruby is circle
and if you are standing about 60% further from titan you wont hit all 3 gaols by LB2
meanwhile the comets are like 75% apart
if you got log to support your claim i would be happy to confirm that
since i tried once and couldnt
also bradmante target a healer and dps
mint falcon
Ah, from my experience, ranged lb won't fire if the target you're targeting is out of range. So since I would target the furthest comet, if ranged lb could still fire and I assume that I hit all three.
foggy latch
so 50% you wont be targetted by it
but lb take range into account
is how i used to lb rats and goblins in A5S
as mch
since lb3 is very wide
and i target furthest outside my gcds range
and fire fine
mint falcon
Fair, I'll try and see if I can hit all three and get a log confirming the hit
foggy latch
@ruby marsh wrong channel but i will answer still
you can pick anyone assuming you cleared their role quests and i guess they will play part in 5.3 msq
ruby marsh
yeah but does it affect whos in the overworld
i picked granson and i cant find him
if i picked giott would he still be drinking in the crystarium
ruby marsh
so wheres granson
foggy latch
did you pick him?
ruby marsh
yeah
foggy latch
yeah he wont be there anymore
torn kindle
I can double check tomorrow. I picked Giott
ruby marsh
@ me
foggy latch
ok ty for confimation
learned something new
to not target furthest thing to lb
and just aim it better
mint falcon
Aiming at furthest thing helps adjust the depth as it won't fire at the what you're targeting if the target is out of range
dull radish
For additional reference, tanks can also gap close to put the meteors on the boss' hitbox. And there's no danger with the red markers since those are baited by proximity to the center of the hitbox so just have caster/healer chill right under and take them @mint falcon @foggy latch
foggy latch
i dont know what that has to do with our argument but thanks for heads up
dull radish
For putting the meteors closer for sake of the LB. To bait the red markers so you don't have that risk during that phase that you mentioned
The "bradamante" or whatever is just 100% baited so there's no risk in doing that LB, you won't get it ever
Since you mentioned it's healer/dps but that's not correct
(can even go on tanks if everyone else is further away from the center of the hitbox than a tank)
foggy latch
how do u put comets closer
if i cant use anything as soon im inside that dark circle thing?
dull radish
You use a gap closer immediately once it snapshots to you
I dunno specifically, I just know it's pretty consistent since the few runs I did, a tank consistently did it
foggy latch
ok thats some galaxybrain thing i need to try
foggy latch
though if i end up baiting bradmante its gameover
dull radish
We didn't realize it was based on prox and both tanks did that and one of them got the red marker yeah
So as long as to you tell like caster or healers to stand under boss to get those you're fine
No reason not to anyways since it's less movement for them haha
foggy latch
gl telling pf that
dull radish
I dunno I'm fairly positive people would
foggy latch
anything outside macro is blasphemy to pf from experience
but yeah worth trying with decent people you know
foggy latch
foggy latch
its fatal at 50% gauge
quick verge
good thing you killed it before dalamud actually fell
dusty dirge
What do tanks meld now?
foggy latch
Crit -> DH/DET
dusty dirge
thanks
foggy latch
u dont meld DH as warrior
foggy latch
there is no cap
quaint marten
have you done ruby weapon?
mortal stone
I did normal ruby weapon yeah
quaint marten
there should a 
at porta praetoria
for ruby weapon EX
you can do that for your 485 weapon
then hop into eden savage
ruby weapon EX min ilvl is 470 so its just nice too
mortal stone
I believe both that and Eden Savage is 470
So you keep doing ruby ex until you get it? There’s no limit to how many times you get loot?
quaint marten
nope, no limit
either your weapon drops or you get 10 tokens
just like titania ex, innocence ex or hades ex
mortal stone
I never did any of those so didn’t know lol
quaint marten
now you know. 🙂
mortal stone
Finding a party for this seems to be a tad more complicated though
All the people in pf are looking for clears and idk if I can give them that yet lol
inland ore
You could make your own party with the description being the prog point you're at.
violet cosmos
How is ruby ex compare to hades ex
rose atlas
idk how jp pugs compare to na pugs
sweet blade
Macros make coordination easier
warm fossil
Does anyone know how PF tanks handle the Ifrit+Garuda phase in E6S? From what I saw in my training party, the weird tank buster makes things very messy :/
uncut charm
there are macros but a lot still fail horribly at ravensflight and helioclaw
warm fossil
Seems that Ifrit tank breaking their tether is the safest way to go. Then, they can take the TB in the face without worry and it doesn't require synchronization with an unknown cotank
lime solar
Hello, can someone advise on E5S? We're doing triangle for CL but for some reason healer keeps dying to it. They stay in place while 2 and 3 move to swap the lightnings around
warm fossil
Maybe people get too close to each other while passing the lightning? It does a small AoE around one of the players when it happens
It's usually what kills people when passing lightning
lime solar
I see, it's probably because we're practically hugging while we pass. Thanks
mint falcon
@dull radish That’s interesting to know. Granted even pulling that off is tricky for the tank from my experience of trying to snapshot repelling shot to avoid knockbacks last expansion. Maybe if it was a PLD, then the risk of baiting the first bradmante disappears since you can invuln the hit and the vuln. Hmm, that might be something interesting to try out.
stable basin
\o/
sonic olive
Grats
tame plinth
grats