hex probably won't cause the hex logs won't even be generated
#endgame-lounge
lyric summit
quick verge
ravahn afks on patch days to punish ACT users
lyric summit
ravahn is yoship confirmed
heavy mist
Guess it's memory mode time
foggy latch
this group i found is decent tbh
5 blind ppl and 4 hours spent in TEA and we are already at enumuration
steep epoch
Hi
I just reached Eden normal raids and was wondering if spamming them was the best way to get the "best" equipment (outside Savage and Copied Factory) ?
torn kindle
There's also upgrading the crafted gear and the Phantasmagoria stuff, but yes
steep epoch
About the Phantasmagoria, will they keep the weekly limit after the patch ?
supple sail
no, Phantasmagoria will be uncapped
and the new tomestone, Allegory, will have a weekly cap.
steep epoch
Ok, I see
Thanks for the information guys 
manic current
what happened to the datamine channel ?
torn kindle
woven nymph
what's your best sources for eden savage macros currently? I've got e1 and e2s but got told today that they're not the optimal ones
I tried to google them but they're kind of everywhere so thought would be worth a shot asking here
woven nymph
thanks for the pointer!
foggy latch
dat some monkas dodging
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ7RVO9XYAA3vvx?format=jpg&name=large
quick verge
dw about it
latent temple
Anyone have a current guide for setting custom TTS voices in Trigger/ACT?
A lot of a the online guides are dead/missing
dull radish
powerful jagd doll strat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW9_3wFJkKw&feature=youtu.be&t=43
quick verge
oh the vid was finally posted
latent temple
"casual player"
glossy ibex
lol casual
turbid steppe
Alright who predicted the 20 potency on 2-3 skills for red mage earlier. Cookies for you 
glossy ibex
Yeah it's a very tiny buff :/ And they also buffed BLM in the process
And whm dps for some reason?
foggy latch
foul not weakened that much in aoe
heavy mist
same for misery
foggy latch
when alot there
glossy ibex
wait, it's a nerf? let me reread
heavy mist
it was 90% for 2nd. 80% for 3rd 70% for 4th 60% for 5th and 50% for the rest
since foul says 10% less
heavy mist
same for whm
foggy latch
but not that big
glossy ibex
The way I read it was that it never gets lower than 25% less
heavy mist
oh i guess
after 4
its buffed
was thinking about raids and like 2
targets like in tea
and the ifrit/garuda coming up
foggy latch
100 + 75 + 75 + 75 + 75 + 75= 475
100+90+80+70+60+50 = 450
its a nerf til 4
past 4 its a buff
glossy ibex
And in dungeons more reason to pull big I guess
stable basin
idk why they gotta keep nerfing aoe like that
who cares if we blow up a dungeon pull with a couple dcrits
glossy ibex
None of the changes makes a lot of sense tbh
long kraken
sterile plume
Where to see data mine?
sweet blade
foggy latch
savage locked behind msq is confirmed
quick verge
is it confirmed how many quests there are before unlocking savage?
sweet blade
According to Yen, just the optional quest after E4
vale dagger
Glad the primals are first
random apex
dusky root
Hi guys, I want to start playing this game, does the base game have Heavensward inside? I can only find the base game and Shadowbringers on steam. :x
steady pebble
heavensward and stormblood come with shadowbringers
dusky root
So if I buy the base game only, I can't play Dark Knight and Aura race? o.o
sweet blade
You can not
steady pebble
correct
you'd need to either buy shadowbringers, or just buy the complete edition to get everything
steady pebble
if you buy on steam, you're locked into steam for future expansion purchases
so if you're a deal hunter, then that can be a bit annoying since steam doesn't go on sale very often
upside is that you can use steam wallet to pay for sub/optional items
dusky root
Sub/Optional items? 😮
steady pebble
this is a subscription based game
dusky root
Does the region matter? Let say if I buy the EU version of the game but play in Japan servers
steady pebble
you need to make sure that the region you're buying for is the same as your mogstation account
but it doesn't matter for the servers themselves
can play on EU while being in NA if you want (Tho the ping will probably be terrible)
dusky root
mogstation account...?
steady pebble
!faq mogstation
storm frostBOT
vale dagger
Be funny if Savage is cleared before noon
steady pebble
its the account you'll use to play the game with
dusky root
Can I buy this to obtain everything?
sweet blade
Sure but I wouldn't trust G2A
dusky root
Does this include the base game or is it just a standalone expansion?
dry lynx
One message removed from a suspended account.
sweet blade
Nobody knows
dusky root
Best female aura voice?
dull radish
this isn't a general questions channel, it's tailored for endgame. You'd be better off asking questions over in #questions-and-help , or for more opinion-based stuff like that you can ask in #general-discussion
dry lynx
One message removed from a suspended account.
dull radish
like if you really want the umbrella one isn't too far off (but I still wouldn't consider it best suited for this channel). But asking about purchasing the game/choosing a voice is definitely better off elsewhere
knotty pebble
Where do you exchange Goetia?
dull radish
revenant's toll, that's where it always is for exchanging tomes like that
knotty pebble
Yeah, I just got situated in endgame this expansion so I had no idea. lol
dull radish
yeah no worries haha. It'll be like that for 5.4 as well when phanta tomes get pushed out like goetia did for 5.2
flat roost
what button gets replaced by Scorch on RDM?
quick verge
jolt
quick verge
veraero and verthunder
flat roost
Oh, thank you.
lyric summit
4 minute phase with a checkpoint? 
foggy latch
yes
lyric summit
weird af
random shadow
So how hard is ruby extreme compared to Hades?
foggy latch
about same difficulty
from my experience
checkpoint possible the reason they ramped up its difficulty
lyric summit
1
foggy latch
1
random shadow
Gdi
vale dagger
Anyone clear E8S yet?
vale dagger
Thank you Vis
heavy mist
for sure
flat roost
Is there a ShB Deep Dungeon now?
flat roost
;_;
smoky veldt
Someone finally got to the cutscene phase in e8s
but method's stream lagged and blacked out, so we never almost got to see it
twin thistle
are there any strategies you guys have on remembering what mechanics are going on in savage raids?
remembering the order, when its gonna happen, what to do, etc.
repetition?
i heard someone saying something about an act plugin
they said that 'a lot of player use it'
can i get your opinions of this?
strong timber
You remember them by repetitively doing it 
loud cave
Keep dying to mechanics until you don't die > repeat
vale dagger
Is E8S way harder than E4S?
quick verge
idk ask the people who are on e8s
vale dagger
Thats why I'm asking here lol curious how hard it is compared to titan savage
heavy mist
we dunno
umbral oyster
wtf do you do in cinder drift normal phase 2. Cant get past the enrage
smoky veldt
do dmg?
btw, is it me, or does anyone else thing they dumbed down on this new extreme and made it much much easier?
like its super recoverable on min-ilvl
foggy latch
thats EXs in general
but mechanics wise its still challenging to a degree
took me a while to figure out the rotating claws safespot at the start
heavy mist
yeh same
loud cave
you dps the meteors in p2 normal
stable basin
mmmmm do I go for the 2.42 set that sims 200 dps higher but will definitely make me drop some blood weapon hits or 2.38 that's comfier but lower dps 
foggy latch
meanwhile i didnt bother looking at my bis to this day
i just know what to get as i480
prisma patio
Am I right in thinking for E6N, in the final phase when they're merged the two tanks should be next to each other pretty much all times to get ready for the stacking mechanic? Wiped so many times because one of the DPS couldn't run to me in time
quick verge
the enumerations
nova socket
oh enumerations
idk just do e2s spread lul
You don't fail if you overstack in enumerations in normal anyways I think
Also how does a dps fail to get to you when you should all be next to each other anyways 🤔
prisma patio
There was a lot of running and flailing around going on yesterday
For my part, I've never done savage so that's why I wasn't aware of that mechanic at first
dapper pike
Hm E8S says you gotta be 480 to enter. How will people break the ilvl ?
crafted gear?
lyric summit
that plus queueing as full party ignores ilvl req
dapper pike
oh right
nova socket
everyone whos on e8s has crafted gear
foggy latch
oh yes
there is that enumeration mech
i saw the rotating triangles
and just followed the guy going away
foggy latch
those with facing target with actions will like E7S
gl keeping that uptime going
when u need to teleport to your meteor
quick verge
i mean it's just a mech you have to get better at
does the direction you get teleported to change each time the mechanic goes out?
foggy latch
yes
u can get 1 out of 4
like E3S
and iirc u cant see where teleport take you
look at your debuff
and hope u know the distance
lyric summit
yeah you can
foggy latch
oh nvm
foggy latch
debuff say
which direction u get teleported to
they added many new mechs in this tier
guess it will be best tier
uncut charm
7s feels cancer for now
lyric summit
5s and 6s seem pretty easy
lyric summit
yes it does
foggy latch
it does
smoky veldt
ah yes, the teleport, confusing af
lyric summit
spearya spreading misinformation for 900th time
foggy latch
i thought it doesnt
smoky veldt
you literally dont know where you are teleporting to when you are stacked together
strong timber
Oh
That
That is kinda annoying
Like why is that a mechanic
It’s so hard to turn properly
foggy latch
its savage
foggy latch
its supposed to be hard
smoky veldt
thats why its called savage
strong timber
No but like
lyric summit
it's just forced march but you get teleported
strong timber
That’s a different kind of hard
lyric summit
nothing new
strong timber
It’s annoying hard
Not fun to do hard
But then yeah
It’s savage
It is what it is
smoky veldt
its also annoying since it stops your casting for like 5 seconds
quick verge
aren't you ranged
stable basin
hey guys
quick verge
you won't understand the suffering i go through when that fuck jumps outside of the arena for that fourteen mechanic bullshit
nova socket
fuck fourteen
foggy latch
well
quick verge
i had to like, use piercing talon for the first time in my life yesterday
foggy latch
my group put me last on fourteen line
so i cant gcd him
or dance
gonna deal with it for 1st kill
but not later
nova socket
our first kill strats are big pepega as well but we still kill it kinda early so its ok
nova socket
no idea either
quick verge
so the dps check being lenient is expected
foggy latch
its after 3rd fury fourteen
quick verge
esp with mechanics that fuck uptime
nova socket
theres a third fury fourteen?
foggy latch
yes
nova socket
lul
foggy latch
we end up 2 at 26%
1st time they put long fight as 1st
it last around 12 mins
maybe 13
nova socket
all the fights are fucking long
foggy latch
1st fight barely cross 10 mins line
nova socket
5 n 6 are actually really easy idk how did we struggle so much yday with them
lyric summit
6s is just tenstrike shaker spam
foggy latch
tanks almost dont have mechs in 5 at least
foggy latch
outside the add and the dash
quick verge
add is like
the hardest mechanic in the game
unironically
ive never seen someone's spirit break more than with that mechanic
nova socket
wel yeh, but e5 has like no mechanics outside of the add and plague
and horse pushes
Also the boss does less damage then original trial ramuh 
foggy latch
we got good strat for chain
triange strat
tank range healer
and melee can wack with no issues
prime solstice
Quick question, which quest leads to that scene with Cid throwing up and that character from the Ivalice raids?
sweet blade
Isn't it in the MSQ?
quaint marten
havent seen anything of Cid yet in 5.2
smoky veldt
lyric summit
just wait for e6s where MT buster is an alien abduction
lyric summit
no the second buster he does
smoky veldt
just tell your static that you want to change to a dps
rose atlas
wot
lyric summit
he like kidnaps the MT and yeets him down like a dragoon jump
quick verge
tank in 2020
dull radish
my static DRG was getting to excited over that
rose atlas
tanking is a dps loss, just have 6 dps and 2 healers
dull radish
saying "that's what DRG does!!1!1!"
quick verge
LMFAO
rose atlas
lolwut
dull radish
yuusha's such a treasure
polar iron
overcame boomer brain 
lusty oak
quick verge
is it really
rose atlas
you literally fight nael
quick verge
(are there quotes?)
rose atlas
yes
smoky veldt
ah right yea
quick verge
the one where nael comes down from the sky and hits you
rose atlas
god imagine doing ruby weapon and you just get hit by a fucking nael mechanic
smoky veldt
but in ex there are two
but the ex requires alot more dmg to kill the bombs
and if the tank dies, we wipe
smoky veldt
smoky veldt
ikr
lyric summit
lyric summit
think it was our night where we almost disbanded cause of nisi fuckups and then just were planning it for an hour and that's the result
nova socket
That's amazing.
woven nymph
someone jog my memory for level requirements for the new extremes?
rose atlas
470
woven nymph
welp guess I gotta do some phantas grind then
vagrant needle
Now I was looking frantically if there is a good coffee emoji to react to that "blend", but sadly only the Balance has the little guys smelling coffee
stable basin
big oof
stable basin
should've used chronobreak
uncut charm
lusty turret
stable basin
look at the mnk funnel lol
turbid steppe
Who needs meta comp pff
stable basin
impressed by rdm in there
though they're not thaaat bad now
iirc they should end up very close to nin and people wouldn't think nin in wf is weird
quick verge
sheeple finally realizing that whm/ast is actually broken
ping me when a vod of e8s is posted
umbral oyster
Im more confused than ever as to why the smn need tri diaster three times on one hotbar
glossy musk
Probably for focus target and mouseover
I have the same thing for Geir
Since this game doesn’t let you use modifiers in macros
foggy latch
holy shit E6S is busy
but fun fight
chains are final major mechanic there i guess?
if so its hopefully clear tomorrow
nova socket
fire tornado chains aren't the last mechanic tbh
quick verge
just skip conflag and it'll be all good
nova socket
after fire tornado the actual shitstorm happens
polar iron
wait the mount that drops is actually ramuh? LOL
vale dagger
What a mount drops this tier?
dull radish
yeah the E8S mount is indeed ramuh
vale dagger
Was their a mount in Sigmascape or is this something new SE is doing?
dull radish
dunno why you'd single out sigmascape but yes there's been a mount from the 4th fight for each tier since creator
would say every fight since gordias but midas was just a minion
vale dagger
I always assumed they skipped the 2nd tier
Thats probably why, because of midas lol
Least this mount is cooler
Titan Mount was a let down
foggy latch
imagine being stuck at E8S enrage for 8 hours because u didnt kill adds
rain gale
yup those lips are huge
stable basin
that enrage looks tight af regardless
tps has an absolutely stacked dps comp with incredibly good players and they killed at the very last second with no deaths
lyric summit
did they post any povs yet?
lyric summit
thx
foggy latch
hmm
they got her to 0.1%
but she didnt die still
or im missing something
remind me on nm ver
where she dont go to enrage phase til she finish her mechanic
stable basin
where didn't she die at 0.1
foggy latch
she stayed at 0.1% for few secs
lyric summit
what time in the vid
stable basin
she stays at 0.1% twice as long as 0.2% because 0.1% covers the range of 0.19% down to dead
foggy latch
hmm
last part of E6S isnt as cancer as i thought it is
but definitely harder than any mechs combination til sword phase
foggy latch
im talking about
past panto2 like mechs
expected to see plumes more than once
but guess not
foggy latch
so how hard E7S compared to any mechs heavy fight?
lyric summit
thew black/white voidgates look the hardest really
then maybe add phase
there's a pretty easy teleport early into the fight where t/h to go set positions, dps go to correct corner depending on tether
and after that a tunami-ish thing but everyone gets the same thing every time
then it's adds which you need to drag around the arena cause one of them walks cw/ccw on its own while there's in/out aoes and a teleport+2 stacks, and they need to die at the same time
torn kindle
Savage portals absolutely boggle my head because both color portals are on both sides of the arena
when i watch videos
lyric summit
they only come out of the right ones, that's all you need to look at really
torn kindle
ahh.
lyric summit
and if it's going to same or opposite portals
if it's opposite portals on left and right then the safespot switches
it's similar on the black/white but more thinking cause you want the opposite portal each time, so same portals mean a switch
kinda double negative
polar iron
e7s is not bad at all, you just have to figure out the patterns really
After you get past figuring out the portals its similar difficulty as e6s imo
nova socket
after u figure out how the portals work its a pretty simple fight
delicate oracle
I can't even get past e5s, all my pf runs have been unlucky so far
flat roost
What can I use grand company seals for except glamour prisms?
flat roost
Is there anything that'd benefit me in endgame, like for selling in the market or?
delicate oracle
Maybe, I gave up on it and now im trying to look for a static instead
foggy latch
static would work better
gc stuff are easy to get and obtainable by many other means
delicate oracle
Yeah, gonna have to try to join one if I wanna continue doing these raids on savage
lyric summit
it's like day 3, savage with a pug is gonna take a while
quick verge
first floor usually goes down easily in pugs
but this is like
the hardest first floor in
a long while
dull radish
at least it balances out with how lenient the dps check is
lyric summit
well, with it still being week 1 it's still quite hard to prog and carry gray parsers with i469 
quick verge
respecting content prog
nova socket
You can have like hard grey dps it doesnt matter cus the dps check is so low
as long as people know mechanics its should be super easy
glossy musk
Yep. You can grey through just about any fight if people don’t die
heavy mist
honestly is
glossy musk
PUGs can’t handle hot kick
heavy mist
lol
turbid steppe
How bad is ruby weapon to pug?
loud cave
actually isn't that bad to pug
if you blind prog p1, you can get through it in like 20-30 minutes
also checkpoint at p2
vale dagger
Does it really only give you one totem?
foggy latch
yes
vale dagger
Oh wow...farming that is going to be interesting
torn kindle
Hades only gave two because it’s always like 12 minutes long
Due to all the transitions
vale dagger
Still feel 2 totems would've been nice
wheat cloud
i'm only a level 64 samurai so i haven't touched endgame content but i was wondering how difficult are the harder raids? can anyone learn them or are only the the best players going to be able to beat them? when i see streams on twitch i get scared and anxious about learning all these new raid mechanics / strategies.
loud cave
anyone can learn them, you'll beat it if you can put in the effort to learn
wheat cloud
cool, that's encouraging
loud cave
you'll get over the scared and anxious part once you do it enough
just gotta jump into a learning party with like-minded people
die to mechanics until you don't die
do dps while doing mechanics
visual geyser
Ruby weapon is easy in pugs
silver bronze
So what's the safe ilvl range for E5-8? I just barely scraped by E6 today. I tried E7 and we couldn't pass the dps check
Doesn't help we came in blind
Most of my main gear is deepshadow/yorha
And my ilvl is 463
torn kindle
455 is enough for all of E5-8 normal
silver bronze
Then I guess the party just sucks... Felt like it took so long just to do E6. More time was spent rezzing everyone over damage.
Like soon as any high damage classes like the samurai or dancer got rezzed, they died like soon as they rezzed
crystal sand
does anyone know if helmet parts drop in e8s?
sonic olive
I don't think they will
It's body, two weps, minion and mount
Helm will drop in E6S
steady pebble
head should be e6s yeah
sonic olive
IIRC you can get it from E7S too
lavish shell
Got to this phase in Extreme. Making progress.
stable basin
should be pretty free once you're into p2
lavish shell
Yep that is what we are doing. Many tank mechanics in that portion.
The circle bit i can either get or not get its a 50 50 i dont get hit by it.. That is the main thing that is fucking me up.
lavish shell
Phase 1.
stable basin
o
lavish shell
Where magitek bits come out.
stable basin
that one's like... stand at the little divot between the circles and then run to the apex of the curve of the next circle
lavish shell
Phase 2 is really tank mechanic heavy
stable basin
as soon as the line telegraphs appear
big responsibility but not too complicated for p2
uncut charm
I usually stand where your starting point is
then I move into the center once it exploded
also I'm not sure if you can call P2 tank mechanic heavy.... 
P2 feels so much slow paced than P1
uncut charm
like... nothing much
start with adds phase
in a good grp you kill both before you even need to tank swap
then do meteor
then its just aoe spam
D:
stable basin
farming weapons for e8s prog and we killed adds before buster sometimes
like 7 runs in we were sitting there watching dalamud fall realizing that that was probably the enrage for adds
uncut charm
thats poggers fast
we all farm outside raid time ourselves
working adult static, raid lead wants to focus raid time on raid only
stable basin
we had someone who had to miss some scheduled hours so we just did it then
uncut charm
hows 8s for you so far
uncut charm
which part
stable basin
really wanted to clear 7 today but didn't have a lot of time
right before the swirlies
so literally one mechanic left
stable basin
that add phase is annoying af
uncut charm
gonna fix it today
stable basin
yoinking the donut so it doesn't tether to the alpha donut with delirium/bw up
those donuts are speedybois tho
uncut charm
you mean donuts + teleport?
mellow terrace
anyone on ps4 i need a few for this raid?
lime solar
mellow terrace
i need 1-2 for the second coil of bahamut
thorn bear
FUCK CONFLAG AAAAAAAA
lol
Unmend 
e6s is actually a good fight I feel
I like it alot
outside of conflag where I have to sit there baiting cones
lyric summit
fight's fun ye
rapid sapphire
dasfool: might be another day or 2 before act is updated with opcode offsets
lyric summit
heavy mist
saturday wooo
heavy mist
grats
last geode
damn im so jelly
I got up to Comets and then wiped
What is the usual strategy for cds with comets for tanks?
stable basin
i think people usually invuln
last geode
Just invuln or pop other cds?
stable basin
you can pop rampart and your 2min as well because they'll still be going after your invuln runs out
lavish shell
Pop everything you have before you gotta get it.
That is what we did.
Save your big ones for that specifically.
lavish shell
For me it was TBN, Rampart, and Dark Mind. That is what I had available to use at the time.
As you see, SW was still on CD.
Basically pop everything you got cause you cannot do anything while holding the Comet back.
You cannot use any abilities while doing the Comet mechanic.
uncut charm
you should have everything up there
uncut charm
I used everything incul invul
because if they dont kill your comet first
you will def need the 20/30% reduction after your invul expires
stable basin
feel like LD there will bait healers into healing you at first then trying to let it proc and then it runs out just before you die
foggy latch
are we supposed to split 2 2 2 2
last geode
I tried just LD and I died shortly after
stable basin
which part
foggy latch
last phase
last geode
Comets
stable basin
the 3-way split yea?
stable basin
afaik it's non-tanks go to the opposite color orb of their debuff ne/nw and tanks go to the south
foggy latch
the rings are easy
only add phase is scary
portals looked confusing at 1st
but turned out easy
p3 portal are easier since u go to outer squares
stable basin
are you guys not going to outer squares in p1?
stable basin
why
smoky tiger
If you are going to buy the crafted gears, there is no point to do the current tier raid (normal) right?
foggy latch
cause its easier
last geode
Do you stand in the top left and right corners for the voidgates?
foggy latch
yes
last geode
I havent done savage yet
foggy latch
no
stable basin
how is it easier 🤔
foggy latch
SE / NW
stable basin
if you go to the corners you don't have to pay attention to the south portals
foggy latch
no need to go outer squares
uncut charm
7s post adds actually feels like victory lap
lavish shell
Did you pop LD?
@last geode
No.
As you can see, LD is not on a CD timer in the screenie.
At times I forget I even have it cause there is rarely an occasion where I need to use it.
🤷♀️
I end up using others before even remembering I have it.
last geode
O ty
bleak token
hey peeps, got a question: in e7s during addphase the idolatry's cast "strength in numbers" doing a donut / circle aoe. how do I tell apart which ones casting which? please enlighten me~~ 😄
foggy latch
one that circle from above = donut
one that circle from below = aoe
bleak token
cheers!
narrow crow
Popped in to ask a quick question, but is there a way to figure out which stat one should meld on a combat class? I hear it's DH on PLD, but I'd like to know, or see if I myself can figure out the reasoning on that. Like is there such a thing as too much DH? Little crit can't hurt, no?
unkempt flame
There's no obvious in-game way, mostly just people doing the math. As far as I know, crit is the strongest stat for tanks, followed by dh for everything but WAR, and det for war
skillspeed if you need to hit a specific tier
foggy latch
crit>dh=det
narrow crow
Interesting, I'll need to see if I can find some numbers on PLD for 5.2
severe flame
Just incase anyone is interested, I put together a quick guide the way my static handled things in e5s might be an interesting strat for people.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K6Pz-CSsu6HUh89PgHqFnIYonK2oIqrJX0IJ7wvhGl0/edit?usp=drivesdk
foggy latch
ugh finally E7S down
heavy mist
Nice nice. Any deaths?
bleak token
'grats
foggy latch
ty
stable basin
same, just downed 7
lyric summit
we got through 7s adds once but we only killed 6s today 
stable basin
yea
scarlet jay
Yo guys someone have time to ask somthing about the game please
torn kindle
Just ask your questions here or in #questions-and-help :)
undone breach
Im not triple, but can anoyone explain the mirrors in E8? Doesnt even need to be savage but i have been hit every time
lyric summit
on normal they just repeat the mechanics the boss does
so a donut on the boss gets repeated as donut on each mirror, so standing right near a mirror will be safe
or it it's axe kick/huge aoe on the boss then mirrors will repeat the huge aoe on cardinals and middle of the arena will be safe
didn't study savage povs for it yet so dunno how it works in savage, there's like different mirrors that go in different order depending on the border/size or something
undone breach
I knew it reflected but couldnt figure out where the safe zones were. Like when she does the pizza minus a slice, is it the area between the mirrors or the far corner.
stable basin
Mirrors in savage fire off at different times
blue instant, green after short delay, red after long delay
lyric summit
if she does a pizza slice then the mirrors do a pizza slice too, so any edge should be fine
cause they do like a
| |
so i guess the side not opposite of both mirrors
undone breach
Alrighty. Hopefully next week i can manage to not get hit at least once. I did learn the hard way that the final ice block takes up to much space to disengage by like 1 inch lol. Foot hit and slid off
Also is Titania and Innocence mount drop rates maxed now? Or does it increase over the whole expansion?
torn kindle
It’ll probably increase one-two more times based on Stormblood
undone breach
Alrighty thank you
pastel cobalt
@undone breach For the "Pizza minus a slice" thing, the mirrors basically just do a giant circle aoe, so you run far away from them after avoiding the attack from Shiva. When you see 4 mirrors you can be sure it's either Axe Kick or Scythe Kick, and when you see just 2 mirrors, you know it's the cones (run toward mirrors), or pizza missing a slice.
lyric summit
how much are you mutilating one poor pizza 
pastel cobalt
kind schooner
Why is it bad to bring two of the same job to a savage raid? Is there some kind of penalty
Guy looking for 4th dps for e5s prog is saying no repeat jobs even though theres already one of each role in the group
steady pebble
it reduces lb generation
kind schooner
Ah right, I didnt think that was ever a reason to not bring someone if their best performance was on a repeat job
I was gonna reroll summoner this patch but I'm apparently two months late to the bandwagon, soooo many summoners
rose atlas
plus raid buffs overlap
crystal sand
how do i determine what savage gear to distribute in a static?
stable basin
only give loot to people if it's in their bis
prioritize selfish dps > tanks > healers
if you're not looking to clear within the first week or two just do round robin or whatever
uncut charm
cats which fight and part are you at now
stable basin
we at add phase e8s
nova socket
add phase is so tilting but also will be braindead once people have gear
uncut charm
Haven't moved since. Last night was cancelled cos one member is celebrating bday
Still at 7s tornado
foggy latch
we been at it for 3 hours
we only passed it just 3 times
i agree forsaken is most cancer part of E8S but 3 hours?
rose atlas
is it actually just F1 reskin
stable basin
It's gavel forsaken
4 people are chained and can't go too close (and too far[?]) to each other
4 other people get orbs that eventually shrink
3 sets of towers, 4 then 2 then 1
2 proteans, just after the first 2 sets of towers
you start with 0-2 stacks of a debuff that you can't let hit 5 and get 1 stack every time you get hit
The way we're doing it is
Chain people take first tower while orbs kite out to the edge
Chain people stay put and take protean while orb people take second towers
Second protean on chain people
Whoever has three stacks goes in to take the last tower
not too hard, or shouldn't be
foggy latch
finally transition
stable basin
\o/
topaz wolf
might be funny coming from me but, during the latest dungeon on the cyclops boss during the squares mechanic, is the "proper" way to do the mechanic to go on the last spawning set and go in the first set that explodes after it explodes or is there a "proper" way?
steady pebble
if he drops hammers first, hammers is going to explode first
if he drops swords first, it'll be swords
So stand on the one that will explode 2nd, and move into the first set's square once it does
topaz wolf
yeah thats what i do but i was curious to see if there was some other niche to it like with halicarnassus squares or sth but thanks
steady pebble
hm yeah don't think there's any other way to do it unless i missed something
dull radish
yeah no there's nothing else to it, that's just the mechanic
that, and dealing with potential in/out or stack while it happens
lyric summit
one dungeon per patch and even then it's only half the dungeon because of the first trash packs 
flat roost
I havent seen Eden8 yet but I like where this new content is heading.
Very happy that normal content is starting to be a bit hardish
lyric summit
ehh it really isn't any harder than previous normals
just week 1 gear so people die to everything
rose atlas
yeah im in full crafted and still dying
polar iron
FINALLY
stable basin
POOGIES
stable basin
👀
polar iron
our mch went brd and it worked out after that really easily lol, we wiped to some 0.5-1% enrages before even with the buff
rose atlas
im on e7s
add phase
my static is uh
on e6s
fresh
the e7s add phase is
super annoying
polar iron
i like it more than the usual add phases you get
i dislike e6s the most out of this tier definitely
quick verge
e7s add phase is annoying at best
i have to go out of my way to chaos thrust both adds
polar iron
melee woes i guess cant relate
which one of those was a bad word lol
same with axe kick in shiva
quick verge
all of them
polar iron
the teleporting stuff overall is slightly annoying
already know how that will go in pf
polar iron
yeah its just wider too i think
funniest thing about that boss are the autos, dps earlypulling = they most likely die to 1 auto
quick verge
can't relate
70% of the pulls
someone who isn't the tank ends up eating an auto
so our ast just uses CI on them
and it's like nothing ever happened
quick verge
caster problems
polar iron
yeah first raidwide leaves me hanging at like fuckin 2k too lol
stable basin
I swear she just randomly autos someone
I literally voke at 1
and someone gets auto'd
tall flint
Question about Ruby Weapon Extreme. For the first dodging of the claw, how can you tell whether to go north or south. Example, claw is right go north, claw is left go south. Thanks in advance
uncut gate
depends on if the final dash starts left or right the first claw
(or was it whether he first dashes left or right?)
tall flint
Dashes left or right. I know I've been told in the past that the direction that he has the claw out (left or right) depends if you go north or south
stable basin
Basically
You look at it when it puts its claw out and dodge left or right
then you look at the last arrow and dodge in the same direction
uncut gate
based on a rough paint drawing - if he dashes west (left), right claw you go south, left claw you go north
except i don't think about it in terms of n/s, i just go from the safe spot into diagonal of the first claw path and the last path
lyric summit
you stand in front of it when he takes out a claw, and you see that you go left, then he dashes through you, along the wall, and you go left of that next wall pos too
uncut gate
it's hard to visualize from text, and a top down diagram is also confusing since you won't be seeing it from that perspective
lyric summit
don't need 4d chess about his claws being there on this dash or that dash or anything
uncut gate
i'd suggest just look up several clears with several versions until you get used to predicting the correct spot
lyric summit
if you dodge claw left then you go in front of him then dodge left
proven saddle
foggy latch
the single hallowed wing with mirrors is confusing abit
bronze badge
So... is it recommended to just skip phantasmagoria gear for allegory and Eden Verse gear? Takes a bit longer, but you don’t have to deal with immediately replacing any of the gear until extreme content or next patch
torn kindle
Allegory and Eden Verse are both on weekly lockout/caps, so you'll still need some amount of Phanta gear while you wait for the lockouts.
Or you can go the Gil route and Buy the i480 Neo-Ishgardian crafted set.
bronze badge
Currently sitting at like 465. Can do all content that requires weekly farming. Well, all but extreme of course. So I’m not entirely sure I need any of the Phanta gear. It feels like a waste. Sure, it would make the content I’m doing a bit easier, but I can already clear the content I’m at with the gear I have....
To clarify, I do have a few pieces of aug deep shadow gear and the weapon of course, but anything else feels a bit like a waste of time now lol
Or am I just crazy
torn kindle
All up to you then, just don't let your Phanta be capped since you can use it to earn gil with the tomestone materials 😛
foggy latch
after our shiva
raid leader was like
can we go back to tea? its much easier than this
heavy mist
LOL
stable basin
honestly
only have to do last 6 minutes of tea perfectly
and can probably afford a death even there
vs 14 minutes of may as well jump if someone gets a damage down
uncut charm
spear cleared?
nova socket
Fuck e8s
lyric summit
depends on the piece
check the meld caps
if you can meld the best stat for your job twice then yeah
polar iron
check felt harder than TEA to me @foggy latch
foggy latch
i assume all have ruby
polar iron
this is the last phase
and we ended on 69-70% before adds
thats all i can say no fflogs = no halp
and we had no buff so that wouldve helped too
yeah our tanks didnt have weapons i think, rest of us memed on ruby during a break day and got weps
quick verge
17k
polar iron
but i dont think those are gonna make or break the run, just do the usual stuff play well align buffs + pots etc etc
quick verge
idk you literally get stunned for looking at her strip
heavy implication to not lewd her
foggy latch
right
nova socket
no lewding
foggy latch
foggy latch
did what?
kind schooner
mHM
nova socket
was me sorry I am raidin
quick verge
sqex really had
no chill
on this last floor
finger guns
just invuln them unless they won't be up for a morn africk
nova socket
yeh
nova socket
rampart + shadow wall + dark mind + tbn + reprisal and the buster still fucks you over
xd
rose atlas
this is why gnb has 4 cooldowns
p sure if you stack all your cooldowns
its still likr
50% less dmg taken
thorn bear
Brother the buster in e7s is a party stack no cap
Dark mind shadow wall and i took 130k when covering my co tank
nova socket
buster in e7s isnt a party stack its a tank mechanic
and even then you invuln all of them
uncut charm
you take 130k wat
rose atlas
@uncut charm i think he means the split buster
uncut charm
yeah I mean thats the only tb in that fight
you shouldn't be taking 6 digits with 2 cds tho
even if you are "sharing"
rose atlas
is the offtank infront
mortal stone
Now that I figured out how endgame gearing works it’s actually kind of stress less and I like it
foggy latch
rip week 2 it is for E8S
reached last mechanic before enrage
heavy mist
Rip
stable basin
hoping to see icelit in this next lockout
if we don't, big concern
might be on track with dps but idk
getting 72-73% without pots
foggy latch
we got her 71% without pot
and we were still like 3 % behind at 2nd forsaken
dps check is indeed super tight
nova socket
got her to 69% with a death near the end
quick verge
don't you have to get frozen
quick verge
tank mechanics smile
nova socket
rose atlas
!wl @rose atlas
storm frostBOT
rose atlas
pog 0th percentile
tame plinth
the nightmare is over:
dusty dirge
