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stable basin
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actually ended up playing an aram with him at one point

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But yeah like I said GMs can't reveal the details

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But it was pretty clear-cut griefing

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except the L1 characters all still exist haha

polar iron
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So do you just stop progging for 3 weeks

stable basin
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we got a workaround

polar iron
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Oh thats nice at least

stable basin
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yeah

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Just need people to stop sleeping through raid and we got it

foggy latch
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that was 6th time we see wormhole btw

foggy latch
lyric summit
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grats to the crystal tea 5man clear

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also there's 182 chaos clears on fflogs already

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225 on primal, 251 on aether

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kinda shit data sampling when 99.9% of ultimate clears on eu and na get uploaded to fflogs

foggy latch
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we dont know when the date data was gathered on

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guess it was 1 week earlier

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data will surely include alts too

glossy musk
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13 people aka 8 people + 5 sales

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nice lol

quick verge
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those 8 people making bank from those sales

stable basin
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I ate popoto salad instead of robe lettuce and one of the melees asked if I changed my gcd because the boss movement was different ๐Ÿ‘€

quick verge
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probably missed a positional because the movement changed

glossy musk
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Lmao

wraith spire
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this is a tuesday and ppl are wiping to a e1s 2 chest weekly! ๐Ÿ˜ฉ I think i been at this around an hour and 15 mins now lol.

rose atlas
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you guys are still doing e1s?

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wheeze

wraith spire
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I'm too tired now. Did it for like 2 hours no clear

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plan on doing it tomorrow night too. i just need weekly clear. it's either forgetting to interrupt add, spinny, dps check, mostly spinny problem...

rose atlas
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i always get my weeklies down in a like hour of starting

wraith spire
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i didn't start till like 920/930 cst

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I've only cleared e1s so that was my only weekly. i wanted to do more e2s learning but now it's too late for that.

rose atlas
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its not too late

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i could help

wraith spire
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too late at night i mean. I'm tired from running it for 2 hours. it's almost midnight here.

rose atlas
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ah that

wraith spire
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sometimes i can last 2 1/2 hours but if it's the same group and i don't loose ppl and have to find others and if it's learning

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thanks though

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๐Ÿ˜„

chilly willow
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Just watch xeno die on stream, it does make me feel better. ๐Ÿ˜„

quick verge
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old man cleaves his problems in twain

analog lintel
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Is it irony that the new endgame now is back to T5,T8,T12,A4S,A8S, and A12S?

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For BLU

glossy musk
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The good old days

nova socket
foggy latch
heavy mist
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lul

lyric summit
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nisi is not a contact sport concernedfroge

quick verge
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of course it is

foggy latch
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i know missing yew

rose atlas
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@foggy latch ready to die to ramuh next patch?

foggy latch
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it wont be harder than TEA

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so its whatever

rose atlas
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but it will be content

foggy latch
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though i need to finish it week 2 or 3

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i will be busy playing ff7r

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if 5.2 coming at 11th feb like im expecting

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i have 3 weeks to clear it

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idk if ruby weapon is actual ruby weapon from ff7

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also is it confirmed we will have ramuh?

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i dont think ramuh will be E8S

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E8S has to be surprise

lusty oak
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there was stage with heavy thunderstorm?

foggy latch
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maybe we get cid

torn kindle
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Why not both

glossy musk
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It also looks like the thunder plains

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So it could be ixion or like

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Ramuh Ixion Centaur

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Or Ramuh riding Ixion

torn kindle
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Odin with a beard

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While riding ixion

glossy musk
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What if itโ€™s like the Egyptian gods

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Ixionโ€™ head

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On Ramuhโ€™s body

livid salmon
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havent played since release week, are all my fellow healer friends still mad about our revamps

stable basin
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I'm mad about people not having the decency to do their mechanical fuckups in assize range

lyric summit
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it's been like 7 months but ok pepothink

livid salmon
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does AST have more than dps card yet ๐Ÿ™ƒ

quick verge
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yeah uh it has a card called unbridled rage when you get like 4 boles in a row

livid salmon
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id rather get 4 boles in a row than only have 1 card

quick verge
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ok

steep iris
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๐Ÿ‘€

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tbh other than bole/ewer which are unreliable

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spire is useless

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and balance/spear/arrow are all unga bunga dps cards

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with the latter being hated by some jobs

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i think the new changes are fine

livid salmon
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am i the only person that actually liked giving ewer and bole lmfao

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like it wasnt ideal to give bole but if there's raidwide going out and there's no other option its better than bitching

steady pebble
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its not reliable though

torn kindle
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But it only mattered then if it actually saved people

steady pebble
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which is imo the problem

steep iris
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unless someone's gonna run out of mp there's no real reason for ewer

livid salmon
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people run out of mp a lot in pugs

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dmg mitigated is dmg that doesnt have to be healed though

steep iris
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bole is useless if it doesn't save resources or save the raid

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and in most cases it does neither

steady pebble
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personally felt like you get more out of proper usage of lightspeed/lucid dreaming than you would having an ewer

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but again, the main issue is that its not a reliable thing to fall back on

livid salmon
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if consistency was that much of an issue i'd play something with consistency always, like whm

steady pebble
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much prefer having consistent and reliable cards to be played

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than potentially having to play cards for the sake of playing the card

livid salmon
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which felt too boring and straightforward for me so i hated it beyond healing absolute monkeys because it's basically bomb proof

steady pebble
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like if you already had a RR, and you drew an ewer

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but no one needed it at that moment you either had to toss it or store it

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and then you may never need it

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so it essentially is a waste

steep iris
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tbh if you think about it

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If a raidwide does 65k damage

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a spread bole cuts out 6.5k from that

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chances are it's not gonna save resources

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cause 6.5k is a smol amount to heal

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scale it up to heavy hitting aoes like maybe mega holy in TEA and it could possibly save the raid from a wipe but want to look for consistency with your healing plan in endgame raiding most of the time

foggy latch
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@steep iris long time no see binch

steep iris
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henlo

foggy latch
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sipping TEA?

steep iris
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it ded

foggy latch
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shite

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perfect legend

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gz

steep iris
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i was carried by a 7/8 cleared group anyway

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so eh don't really feel like i've accomplished shit

foggy latch
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well

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wormhole would fuck u if you dont know what to do

steep iris
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yea i guess

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feels good tho

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didn't need to spend as many prog hours

dull radish
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I need more prog hours haha

nova socket
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wtb more prog hours

steep iris
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i was at nearly/around 60 when i got the clear

dull radish
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we've been going so little and then had a big break for thanksgiving, then minimal hours again, then a big break for christmas

steep iris
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faster than my own prog time for uwu and ucob

dull radish
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then our GNB is changing work hours probably and we have to find a replacement

steep iris
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people have def done faster with fresh though nyaissa

dull radish
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I feel so far behind

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(I am so far behind but still)

steep iris
nova socket
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think we'll have a week+ break for xmas as well

dull radish
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we had like

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10 days for thanksgiving because someone was travelling

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our last day is monday maybe then we don't go again until like a week into January?

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our GNB's schedule should be changing Jan 1st though

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so hoping we can find a good replacement

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at least we're not stuck on LC heck or anything but I was hoping to at least be a good bit through P3 by now

steep iris
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i left the static i cleared ucob and uwu with week 1 but ended up joining a friend's group like a week after

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but i also had to cut out a lot of raid days cause i had finals

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glad they didn't mind me taking days off even if i only just joined blobmorning

dull radish
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I'm a bit sad we never got around to getting through ucob too

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but motivation is so low to go back to synced content

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we sped back through and caught up with new members near end of SB but

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people went on break before shb

steep iris
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i ended up raiding about the same amount during finals week cause the (separate) 7/8 cleared group needed a healer sub suddenly

dull radish
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then when shb came out we were just kinda ehhh to actually go to do more ucob haha

steep iris
stable basin
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I just want to have raid days without lag or people sleeping through or getting banned

dull radish
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it's so hard to not overwrite foul

steep iris
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LMAO cats

dull radish
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oh man like

steep iris
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are you in aku's static

stable basin
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yes

steep iris
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i'm so

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sorry

dull radish
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after we had our break for thanksgiving

stable basin
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the best part is

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when he got gaoled

dull radish
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we had like two days of half raid days with dc's

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and lag

stable basin
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he wasn't the first person to say gm gaol

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someone IMMEDIATELY was like please don't say you're in gaol

dull radish
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we didn't have gm problems though~

steep iris
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yeah my old static had a lot of dc issues during their prog ๐Ÿ‘€

stable basin
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oh we also had a day of dcing at missile command

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and then ppl changed off 2b glam and stopped dcing

steep iris
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what was he banned for anyway

stable basin
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You know Ith right

steep iris
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oh yeah

stable basin
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Yeeah

dull radish
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at least tea (so far) hasn't caused the same issue as E1S does for me

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where during the transition my computer just kinda dies

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sometimes

stable basin
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Funny thing is they didn't delete all the characters that caused the problem

steep iris
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at least you weren't the person in my friend's static that kept crashing on golden transition

stable basin
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big oof

steep iris
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and did they delete any or none at all?

dull radish
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I'm um

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I feel like my computer might have that issue

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but we never made it to golden

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only start of HF

steep iris
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feelsbadman

dull radish
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we like, caught up with new people in like

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a few raid days

stable basin
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I don't think they deleted any

dull radish
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from where we were with prog a ways back

stable basin
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Also remember the teraflare dc

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7 deaths #1 execution ucob for burnt toast fc

quick verge
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golden dcs

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.

stable basin
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that fflogs never removed

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even if you don't dc golden is laggy af because the background is so extra

quick verge
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they wouldn't need to remove the log cause you didn't exploit anything

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like wow potentially shooting my party in the foot for execution rankings

stable basin
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True, but I also feel like it's just... not exactly on the same playing field as the rest lol

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Or a really really stupid thing for people to intentionally do for ranking

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though idk who actually cares about execution other than bragging about being top 5 once in a while

quick verge
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you need to reevaluate life choices if you're going for execution rankings

dull radish
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execution is like

quick verge
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rather than speed or something

dull radish
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"oh hey we got high/low execution haha nice"

stable basin
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Execution is like "speed but also did you have a pld"

dull radish
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I dunno execution is mainly a meme

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I wish speed was more forefront really

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but mostly I just care about clearing haha

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and some what optimized kills after that

stable basin
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same

quick verge
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mood

dull radish
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I get good enough logs then I'm done and a lot of people beat me

stable basin
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I enjoyed optimizing Gate a bit but I also liked being able to be semi-serious with people playing what they wanted

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And we were single melee with a RDM so we were never going to be able to compete

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Except against ourselves I guess

dull radish
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I'm BLM so like I can do whatever haha

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selfish jobs are so cozy for any sort of rankings

stable basin
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feelsexplosionman

dull radish
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100k F4's are one of the most satisfying things

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along with 120k Despairs

stable basin
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dang

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I get to see just about the lowest maxhits of any job

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with my 600 potency bloodspillers

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I very rarely crack 40k

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Often the SCH would beat my maxhit with a broil...

quick verge
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tank sucks tbh

dull radish
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TEA is gonna be so weird with max ilvl gear

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gonna have to F1/scathe the doll so much

quick verge
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i hate jagd dolls with a passion

stable basin
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Our pld confettis peoples dolls sometimes

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Which causes way fewer wipes than I expect

dull radish
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just give me guaranteed dh crit F4's

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I hit the doll twice and I'm done

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easy

quick verge
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sometimes I dcrit my high jump and geirskogul and the doll will be 30% after 2 or so gcds

nova socket
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I just hit the boss while dps players meme with dolls

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Sounds like a fun mechanic, I'm glad I don't have to partake in it.

quick verge
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melee dps is the easiest role since I don't have to look at my screen until inception

stable basin
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I just worry about the cancerous job of covering two hits 19s apart with rampart

nova socket
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either that or spend invulns in p1 cus u dont need them in p2

quick verge
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the reprisal timings in this fight look fun and engaging

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devs designing the fight so everyone has the least amount of fun possible

stable basin
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In TEA?

nova socket
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idk about later phases, but first 2 theyre pretty simple

stable basin
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I don't think there's anything particularly bad about reprisals

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I don't even know what my cotank uses them on

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I just hit every whirlwind

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And firt cascade and something else I forget

nova socket
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on LL i just like kinda use my first reprisal on smth cus you just have it too much

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pld gets first aoe and first splashes + drainage idk where to use mine really

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"i guess Ill just mitigate autos and some trash damage"

stable basin
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pretty much

foggy latch
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still 16 days til 2020

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hope we clear TEA before it

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i wann go back and clear UCoB

stable basin
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same

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We gonna do ucob for ppl who missed it after tea

foggy latch
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feels stupid that i stopped prog at tenstrike

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but ppl wanted tea 1st cause its relevant

dull radish
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I don't really blame them, doing stuff back at 70 is kinda awkward and annoying, compared to level 80 stuff

foggy latch
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still happy of our TEA prog

stable basin
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At least you're not my friends uwu that died at suppression cause expac

foggy latch
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like i expected 3 digit hours to clear

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but we are at last phase with half that num of hours

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huh?

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how?

dull radish
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it's kinda similar to what happened to us

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if we didnt' take a pre-expansion break we almost certainly could have sped through ucob prog

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but alas, we did

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with new stuff then it's kinda hard to go back to old stuff, especially when you start to lose skills and such

foggy latch
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brd at least is still fine at 70

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i only lose apex arrow

dull radish
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not having xeno or 2nd poly stack are both really weird

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and there's more restriction with thunder which means I mess up and suddenly have to transpose

foggy latch
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oh

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and

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the 10 retarded secs of army muse

stable basin
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70 drk feels like trolling

foggy latch
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who taught its good idea to put that trait

stable basin
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No missionary

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baby flood/edge

dull radish
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I've been leveilng BRD and read that trait

stable basin
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no second aoe combo hit...

dull radish
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it took me so long to actually understnad it

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then was like

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oh...ok

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sure fine

foggy latch
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i have like 4 cds to burn as i get to WM not including procs

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and i cant doubleweave

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for first 10 secs

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it hurt me alot in alex prime

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when i have to get off as much dmg as possible before inception

nova socket
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Why can't you double weave

foggy latch
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ty to my static i have to hold dps at bj+cc so our pld get HG back before alex busters before wormhole

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it give you

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16% speed buff

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depending on your army song procs

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my gcd goes from 2.46 to like 2.1

nova socket
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When does your pld HG first?

foggy latch
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sometime at LL

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oh yes

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doubledrainage

nova socket
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ok

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should be fine for us then without holding dps

foggy latch
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2.1gcd is impossible for me to doubleweave

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and since its double bosses

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getting 4 procs in 20 secs isnt hard

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its like

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imagine having army song and WM together in sametime

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which is cancer tbh

nova socket
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Playing around procs sounds cancer no matter what

foggy latch
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hey

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thats what im dealing with atm

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with dual bosses

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and switching targets every 15 secs

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to refresh dots

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and getting those millions of procs

nova socket
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I wish I just had more prog hours, Im happy with how we did prog last 3 nights but we just need

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more hours to actually get prog

foggy latch
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i would play mch

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but brd is just broken for 1st half of tea

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also

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we got the retarded NTT node acting up every few

dull radish
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just get by P1 and P2 np

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then things are better for MCH <3

foggy latch
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i dont wanna play mch with lagspikes

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brd in other hand i can deal with spikes

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spikes on mch just ruin the entire rotation and its flow

rose atlas
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i cry

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i get a e2s 94

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and not 95

hasty pebble
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hello. when do we get that free item that let's us fully remake our character physically?

lyric summit
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when you finish the base game msq at 50

hasty pebble
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like, I want to change my race and everything

lyric summit
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from the quest ultimate weapon

hasty pebble
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oh ok

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ty

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how do I change the company i chose?

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I chose vipers by accident

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I wanted to choose Flame people

torn kindle
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You need to reach 2nd Lieutenant to be able to switch your grand company

hasty pebble
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does it even matter which is chosen?

torn kindle
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nope

hasty pebble
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I did by accident

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so it's nothing important, which of 3 to choose

torn kindle
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main differences is pretty much item looks and where they're located

hasty pebble
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item looks?

torn kindle
hasty pebble
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how do I get Orha gear?

torn kindle
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You can see sets from each grand company in here

hasty pebble
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Yorha

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that videogame, forget name

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I see someone with it now

torn kindle
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YoRHa is from the level 80 24-man raid.

hasty pebble
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wow

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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do you know what name of that raid dungeon is?

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do I need to do main story to get it?

torn kindle
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The Copied Factory, and yes you need to complete the base Shadowbringers story to unlock it.

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which includes the previous expansions and base game

hasty pebble
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that's cool

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level 80 dungeon, holy moly lol

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is that gear hard to get set?

torn kindle
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well it's currently on a weekly lockout timer so kinda

hasty pebble
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wait, can only do that dungeon once every week?

pale stream
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no, you can do it multiple times

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just can't get drops more than once a week

hasty pebble
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oh ok

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so if I get yorha chest piece, I have to wait next week for another one

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it's RNG roll for piece? or people get one a week for sure?

pale stream
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unless the 24-mans have changed, there is one drop per party per boss in there, and if you collect any of that, that counts as your drop. doesn't matter if it's need or greed

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once the next 24-man is released in 5.3, they'll make this one free drop

torn kindle
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standard Need/Greed/Pass loot rules.

hasty pebble
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oh ok. I want the chest piece and pants most

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it makes the set look most complete

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that looks sick

lyric summit
quick verge
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this clip makes me angry

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thanks

foggy latch
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whats the clip about?

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twitch just buffer endlessly to me

stable basin
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someone moved to soon after gavel and killed everyone

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my healers have done something similar, reset a pull by yoinking someone through the line

foggy latch
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oh we had that

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someone moved right before gavel removed debuffs

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and killed 2 + himself

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so we forced a wipe

thorn bear
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during one of my groups gavel runs I ran out too early

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and my nisi fell off before it was taken away and didn't reapply so we wiped

foggy latch
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sounds like too early pass at some point

nova socket
quick verge
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s1r

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why are you taking so much

nova socket
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I... forgot to press nebula...

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And my heart of stone ran out...

stable basin
torn kindle
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Thatโ€™s 33k

nova socket
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oh

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im blind

lyric summit
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soon

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nisi is probably the most satisfying mechanic to execute

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when you're parallel parking between beta and delta trying not to wipe the raid

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we killed p3 today twice and saw beta once, cause half the group didn't believe and didn't look into final word and alpha loveAngry

quick verge
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i disagree with your nisi order

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should be alpha beta ฮด yamma

lyric summit
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alpha beta yolo delta

stable basin
quick verge
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i see.

steep iris
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the only real way is bogp

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blue orange green purple

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or just wing it

stable basin
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We have a tank/heal lineup and a dps lineup order

quick verge
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ytho

dull radish
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yeah we just do alphabetical

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good ole alpha beta gamma delta

quick verge
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yamma*

thorn bear
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BLUE ORANGE PURPLE GREEN

foggy latch
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just do it fflogs strat

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green blue purple orange

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@nova socket we had good attempt to reach perfect again but we had super shit crit rate

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so CC enrage wiped us while he had 112 hp left at triple enrage

rough geyser
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Got to 76 and for some reason lost all interest in the game

obtuse hollow
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Because youโ€™re not at 80

nova socket
quick verge
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6-11

nova socket
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our mnk randomly had windows update start

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lulw

dull radish
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we had that last night, for our last raid night before a real long break for the holidays

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our PLD bluescreened then got hit with windows update

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so we had to call it real early

nova socket
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He's still gone

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We have short raid tomorrow still but ๐Ÿ˜”

dull radish
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our next raid day is like a week into january or something haha

nova socket
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we have a week off and then we go hard cus ppl dont have work

dull radish
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I just get a whole lot of time being a bit restless. Though it's not so unexpected, it always kinda happens this time of year and lasts for a long time. Would have been nice to clear beforehand but we had a lot of other issues causing delays and limited hours so it is what it is

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just gonna hope that people aren't too rusty when we get back to things afterward

thick rose
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What is the best online reference guide for end-game material. Like in WoW it (was) icy veins (maybe like 2 years ago)

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but something like that

meager sun
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the balance discord

thick rose
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ah awesome TY

quick verge
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was expecting people to eat shit to stillness

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not disappointed

foggy latch
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i didnt die at least

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but yeah

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light beacon alone killed 3 ppl with him

polar iron
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yea can confirm i cant check my debuffs

quick verge
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alternatively, make alex suffer because he fucked your opener

silver bronze
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Iโ€™ve yet to ever cap Phantasmagoria stones. Whatโ€™s the fastest way to do so without being a healer?

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My gear so farโ€™s a mash of Ronkan, Eden and Yorha

lyric summit
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roulettes

steady pebble
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or get into a hunt linkshell and participate in trains

snow prawn
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Am I too late to get into the end-game PvE scene, like is the expansion already ending or something? (Currently going through HeavensWard so I'm quite far away from catching up)

lyric summit
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it's not, plus it's never too late

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it's the latter half of a raid tier but it's still the first tier of the expansion, next one coming out mid-feb so you should be able to catch up and gear up a bit if you want to do savage

snow prawn
#

alright thanks

glossy musk
#

Yeah every tier is another chance to start again

#

And thereโ€™s new groups even now

bitter mountain
#

Hey

#

What are the best raid foods atm

steady pebble
#

popoto salad and robe lettuce are the main two i believe

#

but probably best to just look at BiS for your job and see what's listed there

glossy musk
#

^

solemn crow
#

heck

#

I killed us in raid and it could have been a clear

#

I feel so bad aaaah

rose atlas
#

it happens

#

just how my cotank kills me

#

and uh

#

wipes the group

#

cause 30k autos turns into 40k autos

foggy latch
#

rip only seen perfect once

#

ty to NTT node

#

millions of lagspikes and freezes

loud cave
#

Oof

nova socket
foggy latch
#

20% CC

#

whoa

#

gz though

thorn bear
#

that was my groups first enrage lol

#

people just need to get used to movements

#

and optimizing their damage

foggy latch
#

my 1st enrage was 3%

#

but yea bj+cc dps check is much easier than LL

stable basin
#

I'm not sure if we even had any enrages

foggy latch
#

we even hold dps now cause we need HG ready at 2nd alexander buster

stable basin
#

Most pulls if you're not perfect til Gavel you wipe

#

And then after that there's nothing to die to

foggy latch
#

whoever said ordained stillness is hardest mech

#

isnt joking

#

i mean its not hard for me

#

but there is always that person

#

( better if he is a beacon )

#

so he kill himself and ppl with him

stable basin
#

lol

foggy latch
stable basin
#

hope I can see perfect soon

foggy latch
#

wormhole?

stable basin
#

We saw triple enrage once today kinda

#

yeah

foggy latch
#

cool

#

gotta do more good wormholes

stable basin
#

Two people made it past wormhole->stack->enumeration alive lol

#

yea

#

Gotta grind it til everyone can do their number

#

And then probably grind more til everyone can do every number

foggy latch
#

we still.get wormhole wipes

#

but mostly due retarded freezes that happened yesterday

stable basin
#

I got 3 twice and messed up both times today feelsbad

foggy latch
#

without those freezes we would see perfect 5 times at least

stable basin
#

someone counted and said we only have 38 hours of prog and a few days of that we had people dcing at missile command over and over

foggy latch
#

u count dc hours too

#

but wait 38 hours?

#

did you change group?

#

or they just dont raid much?

stable basin
#

It's a lot less than I thought we had tbh

#

But we've had schedule problems

#

People sleeping through raid and getting banned and whatnot

#

And a lot of short days

foggy latch
#

oh yes iirc we had 9 hours of problems at inception because saving space for the heart prophet was hard abit

stable basin
#

big oof

#

we spent a bit more time there than some people were expecting but I watched ppl who were on perfect try it when sfia released the vid and they were messing it up

#

on inception

#

we had the fun discovery of I can't do the far ball from bj then get to my spot in time to bait the south flamethrower for bj

foggy latch
#

just cross tethers

#

once a guy pointed that out

#

we stopped fucking balls up

stable basin
#

and some time working out how to place crystals/discovering that you can intercept someone else's ball if you have a tether

nova socket
#

This is why we met enrage plus we had people just not do damage cus they were focusing on gavel or smth idk :worry:

stable basin
#

if I get the far one I just tbn and sit in the center

foggy latch
#

i see 2 ppl here

#

that i know

#

i guess u got good group now

nova socket
#

I somehow got myself good players yes

foggy latch
#

5 mins death

#

is that double rocket?

nova socket
#

... yes

#

the boss wasnt turned where it should've been...

stable basin
#

doboru rocketu PAWNCH

foggy latch
#

2 ppl died from super jump + ray

#

2 died from whirlwind

nova socket
#

idk most ppls numbers are super low anyways so now that everyone knos what to do its easy

thorn bear
#

shout outs to when I called out for my ranged to get ready for super jump

#

and my group thought I meant to get to the edge

stable basin
#

Our gavel strat is pepega but at least it makes super jump and rocket punch simple

thorn bear
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

#

whm and smn got hit with double rocket punch because as I found out

#

it picks two random targets in front of bj

foggy latch
#

just have ranger go away after gavel

#

and chill there

glass hinge
#

Hello

stable basin
#

henlo

foggy latch
#

hi

glass hinge
#

i'm just came back after a year and a half break

#

jesus everything is so different

thorn bear
#

that is the fresh expansion smell

glass hinge
#

im so confused, idk where to go

#

to start leveling towards 80

thorn bear
#

same as ever

#

main story

foggy latch
#

this is toxic elitist zone

glass hinge
#

^^

foggy latch
#

whats the pepega part of gavel?

#

is it fflogs strat?

stable basin
#

We put CC on the edge and the nisi line points toward the center

foggy latch
thorn bear
#

I think everyone does that

stable basin
#

We've only failed LoS once when there was a traffic jam that made me move it weird but

#

It's super shady positioning it

foggy latch
#

i dont

#

we put him in front of ice

stable basin
#

Most people do it like uhh

foggy latch
#

and we line up on edge

thorn bear
#

huh

#

yeah we did it like tps did

#

CC [Ice] B O P G

#

but cc is on the edge

foggy latch
stable basin
foggy latch
#

but yeah both work

stable basin
#

I'm touching the wall with my character model every pull getting CC into place

foggy latch
#

ok seen til fate calibration beta

#

well perfect osnt hard

#

though beta is abit scary

glossy musk
#

Iโ€™m loving this art

quick verge
#

really makes you feel like you're fighting brute justice and cruise chaser

dull radish
#

we have random clip art on our slides, for P2 BJ is voltron and CC is noah's ark, the shield is UPS shield

glossy musk
#

Reminds me of our old twintania coloring and activity book

dull radish
#

beautiful

glossy musk
#

We released this as an actual strat guide btw

dull radish
#

we just use random graphics for stuff instead of drawing stuff haha

stable basin
#

what % does babby alex need to be before inception/wormhole?

glossy musk
#

Gundam LOL

torn kindle
#

How about that Noahโ€™s arc

#

What fantastic image is used for Alexander?

dull radish
quick verge
#

LOLO

glossy musk
#

Beautiful

dull radish
#

alex slides are still in progress

quick verge
#

i hope alex is just a clock

torn kindle
#

Surprised you didnโ€™t use an ๐Ÿ‘Œ or that Italian hand meme

glossy musk
foggy latch
#

@stable basin inception has to be 70%

#

40% recommended for wormhole

#

but its possible at 45

lyric summit
#

depends on your buffs really

#

we get inception at like 73-74 cause we only use pots then, raid buffs after inception

foggy latch
#

lowest we got was 65 at inception

#

and 35 at wormhole

stable basin
#

hm we've been around 70/45

#

hopefully we can make it without forcing the rdm to change job :^)

foggy latch
#

whats your comp?

quick verge
#

my comb usually has teeth

foggy latch
#

for perfect

#

at fate alpha he should be at 75%

#

fate beta 50%

#

15% at prison

stable basin
stable basin
#

held 90s in cruise justice and got to 42%

#

now we just need to do the mechanics xd

stable basin
#

Got clean wormhole and died to chastening heat

quick verge
#

nice

silver bronze
#

So at what point do I attempt pugging Titania/Innocence savage? Rn my ninja is 453

dull radish
#

titania and innocence are extreme, not savage. 450 is more than enough for the fights, the drops themselves are 450 so you're already overgearing the fights a bit at that ilvl

glossy musk
#

Yeah it should be a walk in the park

foggy latch
#

titania and innocence supposed to be done at i430

#

so yeah you are overgearing it by being i450 or higher

hexed kernel
#

Discussion above TitanCar

twin lake
#

Do I have to join a new FC to join a static? What are my other options?

dull radish
#

not at all

#

majority of statics are not FC-driven, but just do general recruitment. Being in the same FC can be handy (put raid food/pots in FC chest, for example), but it's plenty fine to be in a different static than your fellow FC members, and it's not a particularly rare thing

quick verge
#

@nova socket I heard something happened with your static

foggy latch
#

its good meme drama

#

but i will let him say it not me

nova socket
#

Cia was streaming and it's spread already so...

#

lemme link u

dull radish
#

oh, that clip

quick verge
#

that's hot

lyric summit
#

eu drama ameowsipb

#

if we're talking the same thing

nova socket
#

I mean it's super public cus fox flamed him in erc and someone posted the clip there as well so lol

lyric summit
#

we trialed the guy like 3 weeks ago kinda dodged a bullet i guess ppusweat

nova socket
#

he might have problems getting another static now

lyric summit
#

it be like dat in eu

glossy musk
#

Lmao

drowsy musk
#

Getting roasted though

dull radish
#

you probably should not post that

#

not really supposed to name names or anything like that

topaz wolf
#

^

glossy musk
#

Spill the tea I got here late

lyric summit
#

dragoon ditches static raid for e3s sale

#

becomes Excommunicated Member Of the Month From Eu Raid Communityโ„ข๏ธ

nova socket
stable basin
rose atlas
#

how much dps would hypothetically be needed to see p3 titan at <20%

loud cave
#

At least 80k party DPS

#

Though I estimate around 84-85k

foggy latch
#

80k

#

lowest i got him was 10% at P3 start

#

which was 88k dps

rose atlas
#

fuck thats alot

#

i only managed 17%

#

and thats with uptime gaols

polar iron
#

i managed a 5% enrage wipe in week 32984u23

foggy latch
#

i didnt try after 5.1

#

which could be good 90k

#

and start P3 at 8%

#

or so

#

imagine still doing E4S?

loud cave
#

what's that

rose atlas
#

man im bored

#

and i have no tea static

foggy latch
#

find one

loud cave
#

here you go

#

๐Ÿต

polar iron
#

gotta farm gear next week spearya

#

so i can finally live the warrior main life i wanted

quick verge
#

wormhole is a fun mechanic

#

there's an overwhelming sense of anxiety when im standing there doing nothing

#

when i think i should be doing something

foggy latch
#

meh we had meme day in TEA

#

but at least we seen perfect alexander 3 times

sonic olive
#

Perfect alex is a meme

foggy latch
#

he is still abit harder than gold bahamut

stable basin
#

memes aside perfect does have more than literally one mechanic

#

It's just nowhere near Ultima or Adds+Golden

foggy latch
#

4 days break for xmas

#

next raids 28th - 30th dec

#

hopefully kill before 2020

stable basin
#

same boat

#

except we haven't seen perfect yet xd

foggy latch
#

fate calibration Beta is abit tough at start

#

you have to pay attention to alot of shit

#

alpha is simple til u get double stillness and someone decided to move

#

lol

#

just hope you are light or dark beacon at beta so u do nothing

#

light follower also got nothing to do

#

its dark runner that have to do 1 of 3 different mechanics

foggy latch
#

at least we did every wormhole but 1 perfectly yesterday

foggy latch
#

ok i learnt my lesson

#

ordained stillness will kill you even if you are caught mid skill animation

#

and did nothing after

#

ty refulgent arrow for your 3 secs animation

tame plinth
#

Yeah stillness / motion can be very picky

#

Wait did you happen to auto during the animation perhaps?

north helm
#

for SAM what top1 ger is whit substats det or crit?

loud cave
#

What are you asking? What gear has DET and CRIT or asking if DET or CRIT is better?

north helm
#

what is better

loud cave
#

DET and CRT are pretty much on par with each other for damage output

#

Just depends whether your gear will allow you meld either or

#

!faq substats

storm frostBOT
#
Which substat is the best?
Info

The difference between each substat's effect on output is very small. For example, if you had +2000 DET/+0 DH from gear, switching to +0 DET/+2000 DH would be a 0.52% damage gain. At 12,000 DPS, that would take you to 12,062 DPSโ€”a difference you couldn't detect by eyeballing your logs and one that, in most cases, wouldn't shift you even a single percentile point in performance.

In fact, this difference is so small that with the considerable damage variance in the game (+/- 5% RNG, crit/dh rates), we would not even know it exists had we not reverse engineered the exact damage formula!

But what's the point of BIS then!?

Optimizing our damage is desirable, and changing gear or melds is a free and easy way to make minor gains. The idea is simply to highlight that blaming your substat spread is not an alternative to the pursuit of personal growth. It is an excuse that will only serve to hold you back.

Focus on your uptime and rotation instead!

ruby marsh
supple sail
#

Yes

#

Except the spear

#

!itemglam expeditionerโ€™s coat

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

No Glamour image found, Kupo!

supple sail
#

:S

#

!item expeditionerโ€™s coat

storm frostBOT
#
**Expeditioner's Coat** **:** Body : ilvl 1

Fits: All โ™‚

Defense

6

Magic Defense

13

Item Features

โ€ป Repaired By: Leatherworker
โ€ป Repair Material: Grade 1 Dark Matter
โ€ป Dyable: Yes
โ€ป Desynthesis: Yes
โ€ป Desynth Level: 210

supple sail
#

Also this definitely isnโ€™t the right place to ask

foggy latch
#

@tame plinth no i didnt since i untarget at half the castbar but i was mid refulgent animation even while doing nothing it killed me cause im still doing something even if im stuck mid long animation

#

hope that means the crappy lagspikes at limitcut and wormhole will finally die

stable basin
#

Saw THE BOI today

#

Hopefully we can be perfect legends in year of our lord two thousand onescore minus one

foggy latch
#

gz binch

nova socket
glossy musk
#

Yes

loud cave
#

Yes

stable basin
#

Yes

narrow jacinth
#

Yes

snow plover
#

Yes

random shadow
#

Idk

stable basin
#

Yes

solemn crow
#

they're not dead so yes

glad bough
#

See above

valid pike
#

No. This looks to be lvl 50, and thereโ€™s no need to cut it that fine then. No enrage, and they melt fast enough then. The fight wonโ€™t be long enough to where missing extra gcds matters.

stable basin
#

You're right, there's no enrage in pvp

valid pike
#

Thereโ€™s no reason to dps as a healer then, though. Hard enough to even keep them alive

rose atlas
#

dpsing as a healer is always welcomed

#

speeds up the fight

#

and prevents unnecessary aggro generation

glossy musk
#

Around 70-85% of every fight is downtime for a healer

#

If you arenโ€™t DPSing what are you doing

#

The only HP that matters on someone is the last one

lyric summit
#

when you go to jail before your dancer

foggy latch
#

my dps is shit there

#

due song

quick verge
#

kill it

foggy latch
#

2% now

#

tank died rip

quick verge
#

when

foggy latch
#

at busters before trines

stable basin
#

Imagine dying to ordained capital punishment followed up by ordained punishment

#

which should really be the other way around imo

quick verge
#

yoinks

foggy latch
#

tonight best attempt

quick verge
#

alright i think you should just kill it honestly

foggy latch
#

tomorrow hopefully

quick verge
#

saw perfect today

#

motherfucker is huge

#

jeez

stable basin
#

absolute unit

glossy musk
#

So close

foggy latch
#

4% enrage then 4% enrage then 2% enrage

#

all 3 enrages had 2 deaths

#

going again for 2 hours

#

hopefully clear

#

the 3rd one was clear if no one died

lyric summit
#

just do more dps

foggy latch
#

its down

#

omg its down

lyric summit
#

nice

foggy latch
#

cause i have to respect bj+cc last 10% so he get HG at alex

lyric summit
#

now do the other two

foggy latch
#

other 2?

lyric summit
#

ultimates

foggy latch
#

i will go back to ucob

#

but next week

#

we doing another clear next reset

#

then back to coil i guess?

foggy latch
rose atlas
#

nice

quick verge
#

@foggy latch i see you followed my suggestion to kill it

foggy latch
#

swapping jails?

quick verge
#

no

#

just killing it

foggy latch
#

lol

quick verge
#

you would've also gotten a better parse spamming your aoes in phase 1 and 2

#

quick nock and rain of death padding is no joke

foggy latch
#

i would hold at bj+cc after all

#

so i didnt bother

#

for 25 secs

#

which will kill my parse anyway

foggy latch
#

despite im 1 of worst 4 brds in TEA

#

my ASP is still purple

#

guess dps difference isnt that big

mossy leaf
#

does anyone have a graphic of the ninja rotation?

#

would really appreciate โค๏ธ

torn kindle
stable basin
#

we're making our brd go into the baby cage early

#

if we can ever make it back to perfect

quick verge
#

I feel bad for ranged

#

brd gets to experience bliss for like 6 minutes

#

then it all goes to shit

stable basin
#

we're going uhh sch-whm-drk-brd-pld-rdm-mnk-drg I think

quick verge
#

why brd then pld

polar iron
#

I wonder what my asp from tea is

stable basin
#

cause brds arent real people

polar iron
#

Cursed metric

#

I have no idea how asp works to this day

stable basin
#

percentile plus the ratio of your damage to the gold parse multiplied by 20

polar iron
stable basin
#

there's a different formula I forget that I think is just the ratio for all 120 points that's applied sometimes but idk when

polar iron
#

I just unga bunga and look at my %

stable basin
#

asp is weird

polar iron
#

I was like 1k behind the top parse or smth , thats what holding + playing unoptimally in LL for maintaining push timings does

stable basin
#

I only look at it as a metric for combining multiple fights

polar iron
#

Also you let your caster go rdm worrypepe

#

Wish i could go blm

stable basin
#

yeah we just like... collected people

#

and said play whatever

polar iron
#

Yeah im half memeing anyways rdm is fine

#

But smn is really busted

stable basin
#

no smn definitely hurts but we're still smashing dps checks

quick verge
#

smn getting buffed in time to become an ape job

stable basin
#

we'd be smashing them so much harder with smn tho

polar iron
#

What part are you at now

stable basin
#

theoretically we're at fcb

#

but we've only seen perfect twice and not in the last two days xd

polar iron
#

We cleared (((fairly))) comfily with mnk brd dnc smn war pld sch whm and the mnk died in perfect too so shouldnt be a problem

quick verge
#

that's pretty hot

polar iron
#

Happens, we had a lot of meme days where we didnt see shit

#

Then came back after the xmas break and saw perfect a lot

stable basin
#

people sayin any pull can clear but that's what I heard before I watched people eat exaflares in 16 consecutive golden pulls

polar iron
quick verge
#

that's even hotter

polar iron
#

Breaks do wonders

quick verge
#

16 consecutive golden pulls

stable basin
#

imagine wiping on golden 16 times

polar iron
#

We did like 1,5h of pulls today had pepega moments in perfect, took a 10 min break and it was like the 2nd or 3rd pull after that

stable basin
#

by the time we cleared I wasn't even nervous any more, just like can we pleeeease

quick verge
#

running at the wall is hard

#

ok

stable basin
#

In one of our reclears we managed to kill it with nin dying to first exa haha

polar iron
#

Yeah i was still fairly nervous cuz wasnt sure are we actually clearing that pull but listening to random music from spotify instead of the actual BGM helped KEKW

stable basin
#

because nin weren't real people in sb

polar iron
#

Golden music especially is fucking tense lol

quick verge
#

Golden music makes it better

stable basin
#

People advised to turn off bgm for it cause it's too intense

quick verge
#

mash buttons harder

stable basin
#

But no way was I gonna do that lol

polar iron
#

Yea when we go back to ucob i might have to listen to that one

#

Twintania OST though playdead

quick verge
#

only the weak hide from the BGM

polar iron
#

I do not miss that

quick verge
#

fuck thunderer honestly

#

I get triggered when I hear it

polar iron
#

Nael musics a banger weirdly enough

#

Answers is whatever

quick verge
#

the second loop of answers hits different

#

because you've gotten past 80% of the mechanics in the fight

stable basin
#

I like nael cause I hit shadow wall when the man started singing loudly

polar iron
#

Yeah

#

I watched a bit of the eorzean symphony concert live recording and the answers bit was real shit

stable basin
#

After fellruin when sad lady asks why we gotta die while Bahamut casts Flatten ๐Ÿ‘Œ

polar iron
#

But man i got tired of the TEA music at some point except bj cc

quick verge
#

bj/cc music is inspiring imo

#

locus is hell

#

rise is

stable basin
#

tea is by far the best p1 to hear forever while you talk about strategy

polar iron
#

Yea locus fucking sucks but i especially like the transition

#

How the music starts and bj smashes you perfectly on sync

stable basin
#

The sound of living shadow is part of the bj+cc music for me now

polar iron
#

Cant say anything about garuda never went to uwu

stable basin
#

garuda is the same guitar riff over and over

polar iron
#

It sounds like an ok BGM from what ive listened to it, obviously it'll get boring after countless wipes

stable basin
#

N O W F A L L

quick verge
#

honestly I've just used the xlbgmset command with the xivlauncher so I don't have to listen to locus

polar iron
#

Can you change your own musics to instances with it?

stable basin
#

If I listen to primals garuda theme I can hear all the shrieks

#

Same with ultima theme

quick verge
#

Garuda screech asmr

polar iron
#

I like the ultima one i listen to it sometimes

stable basin
#

Ultima theme lines up so well with the fight

#

Goes crazy during suppression then quiets down and pulses right as tank purge hits

polar iron
#

Im gonna replace locus with the ayaya 10h version so i can lose more braincells with every wipe

stable basin
#

Then goes nuts again for ultima cast

polar iron
#

Welp hopefully i'll get to see that soon enough

#

Gotta beat up ol dragon daddy first

stable basin
#

uwu fun

#

but everyone I know hates it at this point haha

polar iron
#

At least it has the best blm rod

stable basin
#

I like ucoob weapons cause they go with more stuff

#

uwu weaps just feel gaudy

polar iron
#

It kinda varies i guess, i think the blm one is great

stable basin
#

tea weapons I'm sure clash less too

polar iron
#

The sam sword is ????

#

From uwu

stable basin
#

needa get my hands on some

#

sam uwu weapon is /r/mallninjashit

polar iron
#

I like the smn book honestly from tea, but the drk and war weapons are probably my favorite

#

And the rdm one is cool

#

!itemglam ultimate ukonvasara

storm frostBOT
polar iron
#

Terrible angle

quick verge
#

sam weapon from uwu is like

#

my favorite weapon

polar iron
#

Whats it called again

#

!itemglam amakura ultima

storm frostBOT
polar iron
#

Lego blade

loud cave
quick verge
#

it's so bad that it becomes art

stable basin
pastel cobalt
#

I miss Vit melds

stable basin
#

4th dps in our perfect opener

#

pog

rose atlas
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i got kicked because the drk killed himself and left

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guess im done trying to parse e4s today

quick verge
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trying to parse e4s in pugs is doomed

glossy musk
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Especially right now

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Anyone can queue into 4

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Or well

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Join 4 in PF

stable basin
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I'm so mad my recording of my turbolag wormhole didn't work

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moving back to the cardinal before I even saw CC appear for my cleave

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and somehow all worked out

polar iron
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Yea those instances are cursed sometimes

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You just gotta trust ur gut feeling about the timings based on past experiences and hope it works out MadMan

stable basin
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I got blue on smn in e1s yall are in trouble

foggy latch
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i cleared TEA and i dont meet half requirements here

lusty oak
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lol

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thats a lot of req

loud cave
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unrealistic expectations

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lol

quick verge
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so it's like

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what a regular player should be able to do

loud cave
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should

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points to PF

foggy latch
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compared our perfect to best brd there

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im 700 dps behind him

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given its the only phase i dont hold dps

polar iron
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@stable basin outburst is for 3+ targets btw i see youre trying to pad pn the adds MadMan

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Or is that for something else, at least the logo is for outburst in that xiva report

stable basin
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yeah that's exactly what that was for lol

polar iron
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Just use phoenix there

nova socket
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Respecting mechanics :worry:

subtle grove
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for drk , augm deepshadow or edengrace for helmet? because i see ppl saying deepshadow is BiS

quick verge
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deepshadow

subtle grove
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for the crit?

heavy mist
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that and probably works out the best to maximize stat tiering

glossy musk
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BiS lists

๐Ÿ‡ถ **Which BiS should I pick? **

๐Ÿ‡ฆ Before picking your BiS make sure you're able to hit 5 GCDs in Blood Weapon consistently at that GCD. 2.43 is theoretically highest dps but if it causes you to miss a GCD every time it will definitely be worse and you should use a faster set.

Keep in mind that faster GCDs can be better in specific fights to get GCDs off before a mechanic/downtime happen (such as Titania where you need ~2.38 to get your second opener souleater off before running out), which can result in them being better than slow GCDs. Calculators assume full uptime on a set duration which isn't going to be a realistic measurement for what skill speed actually provides.

Prioritize whatever GCD is comfortable for you, if you don't like 2.43 don't use it, damage difference between sets is negligible.

2.43
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1A660

Highest theoretical dps set at the expense of being very slow with super tight BW windows.

2.41
https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1BDO9

Middle ground set between 2.43 and 2.38, only 23 less theoretical dps than 2.43 but more comfortable BW windows.

2.4
https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1AVZK

Another middle ground option.

2.38
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/19R4J

Same gear as 2.4 with sks melds in weapon and using popoto salad as food instead. Very comfy BW windows. Slightly lower theoretical dps than other sets, only around a 0.5% loss compared to 2.43.

2.32
https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1ASWP
Sanic build by Emiin for those wanting to be very fast. Around 140 dps less than 2.43 set on average.

Ultimate Prog Sets

2.4 EXTRA THICC 3,146 tenacity
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1A74Z

2.38 3,068 tenacity
https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1BCMA

Good set if you plan to prog ultimate and want some extra defense, but not ideal for general use. Around 6% higher passive mitigation and 3% worse dps than the 2.43 set.

quick verge
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2.43 is a cursed gcd

pastel cobalt
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When people say "Pug strats" in Hades PFs, do they want tanks/healers in and DPS out for Universal Manipulation?

lyric summit
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yes