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me and viis reached ascian prime phase
Me top xd
no group reached there yet
- ppl doing mistakes in prev phase
so im waiting til more ppl reach ascian prime
Who he merges with @foggy latch
@lusty oak hmm?
its basically O4S grand cross omega
Meh
Is it really difficult to create actual challenging trial?
Though in 5.0 i still saw ppl fail simon says in Thot Ex

Just how.
Meh
Loot.
No, I mean the chest that comes from inside the chest
lol
"No.2 Type B materiel storage crate"
its 2b glamour items
Oh. I thought I read somewhere those come from one of the quests?
no
Hades P1 threshold is <10% for the person who mentioned earlier, 10% alone isn't sufficient
Hades P2 is rotating meteors N/S for tank and cone tethers for DPS, Hades P3 is two adds with fire/ice tethers similar to O12S mechs
After double adds is one big add with stack up + shriek mechs
Guys anyone got a guide for E4S Idyll strat?
idyll?
For the macro sometimes they say fixed orogenesis 2
i think thats just p3 transistion
orogenesis is the transition, yes. Though some folks talk about the rotating bit as orogenesis as well, which is what I assume is being mentioned here. I haven't heard of Idyll strat nor do I really see macros for stuff (though I know JP makes good use of them)
lets just assume hes talking mgr1
tanks and healers stack and rotate with each aoe
2 melee follow behind
ranged follow the outer aoes
well that's one version of a way to do it
but not the only one, and that wouldnt be what "fixed" is
for fixed you just kinda keep your same two squares and just step between them if the blue comes
that's what I always do for ranged
oh that
but I've seen a similar thing posted (also via macro) for inner squares too
yeah, i was used to pugs adjusting to each explosion
I was filling in for a group the other week and was just chilling on the side doing that, and the MCH chased the blue aoe around the edge right towards me and killed me once haha
ggz
but yeah, I think he's asking more for something that I mentioned, but I don't really know specifics, especially by the name "Idyll"
@rotund rain can you elaborate more?
I googled it and got this:
E4S Macro 1 of 2. Also known as theイディル(Ideiru)Strat.
Ideiru being phonetically similar to Idyll.
yeah that's what I was thinking, was JP strat/macro
oh yeah he does have a jp role
The strat itself is neat. I kind of like it.
Is there any Machinist in here with very good gear that could tell me about how much dps you gained after this patch? Would like to know
4% is about what mch need
to not be kicked from groups that want only 1 phys ranger
if they get another
PepeHands
Btw could any1 show me a macro to use a specific ability on a specific ally number?
/ac "ability" <1>
MCHs: how big are the changes to Flamethrower with Skill Speed? Is it worth using for more than 3 ticks now, or business as usual?
anyone know the mirror mechanic in small hades
I know you have to stand behind it but like
do I look away? do I look forward?
doesn't matter
it's just shooting lasers
go opposite of the safespot, cause there's no laser opposite you to shoot you
without spoiling too much, how hard is Hades Ex compared to other Ex trials?
I haven't done it yet but people are saying Shin EX level
anyone know the quest location for the 24man
in tomra
ty
wait do i have two comeplete all the era quests? on the patch note it only says the first one
no, you need to complete the side quest "Word about Komra" first
i did that an scandal already
then there should be another quest to pick up near by
is it on the threshold?
@glossy musk Grand Cross Hades
Ohoho
I dunno if i can ask question here but since it's end game, Between Anogg and Konogg, which one do you pick? Or it doesn't matter
Nier quest.
doesn't matter, just pick what you want
rewards and challenges will be the same either way like the message says before accepting either
Thank you~
so with the buffs how is sam/dnc/mch doing now
dnc and mch i wouldn't expect much changes
they were already doing good
it's 3.5-4% buffs
apparently sam was ~3% increase too, cause they focused on just reworking shoha into something useful while keeping the power level it used to have
shoha feels pretty gud
so far
just another decent hitting attack every three stacks
Is the new extreme hard or easier than Shinryu Extreme?
What materias should I be prioritizing as a DNC? I’ve heard Crit > Det > Direct. Is that right?
If I don't do savage, do I want everything to be 470 since the primary stat differences in ilvl are so big? Or can I use 460 crafted gear over deepshadow if it has better secondary?
470
hades EX is about Shinryu EX difficulty
while i liked Hades as a fight
but man i never get more salty than when tanks not get meteors or just not swap properly
you just swap when the raidwide happens its not hard pepehands
too hard for pug tanks
for the tanks do people like not know to just voke the other one and u could literally not move
🤔
the adds literally come to u
tell that to E4S tanks i see
can do E4S but cant do a swap
its basically a mechanic in bismarck EX
Are there any limitations on Titania/Innocence/Hades EX drops? Trying to compile a list of ~endgame gear acquisition.
or rather looting of the drops
no loot limitations at all for extreme trials
Thanks, thought so. Just wanted to confirm.
Does the Nier event quest line just...end...like that? After going back to talk to the chief?
for now, i guess so
it ends in 5.5 when the last raid comes out
Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks!
I've finished MSQ 2 weeks ago, I've killed Titania Ex twice (I don't have the weapon yet), I'll probably farm Eden normal this week to gear completely at i450, do you think I'll be able to try Hades Ex with that ? Or will people ask for Eden savage exp or i460+ ?
450 is minimal ilvl so it can be pretty scary
a weapon below 450 wouldn't be acceptable imo since it's the most significant piece of gear
crafted gear can be upgraded to 460 now, plus 460 drops from nier, as well as upgrades for deepshadow gear so getting above 450 should be easy now, and the higher ilvl the better generally speaking
seems like most hades parties on chaos require 455 if you're lucky but 460 most of the time
When you talk about upgrading crafted gear, could I buy that from the MB ?
Id call 450 minimum to do eden, tho its so late into tier that lots of parties expect 60+
Even for Titania Ex, most parties ask for 450 and I only have 445 for now :/ But I have no problem doing Eden normal, I just didn't get the ilvl in time to try eden savage before 5.1 and I'm afraid it will be even harder to find practice now
you can get 460 crafted gear
yeah you can buy hq 450 gear from MB and upgrade it with goetia in eulmore
That's good to know, but that's gonna be so expensive xD Well, at least, the possibility exists, I'll try my best, I would really want to try the ex fight on the first few weeks 🙂
it's way more difficult than titania or innocence so you know, don't expect it to be anywhere near as easy
crafted gear is dirt cheap tbh
Hum, I don't even find Titania Ex that easy and I haven't even try Innocence, maybe that's not the best idea :/ That's my first time reaching "endgame", so I don't really know what to expect
Crafted gear is around 200 000 gils per piece on my server, so that's a lot of money for a full set (for me at least)
x.1 patch extreme trials are always the most difficult of the expansion, at least when they're relevant and not outgeared, i'd say it's e2s maybe even e3s difficulty so maybe dabble a bit with eden savage practice parties first
Oh, I see, I definitely didn't think it would be that hard ! For Titania and Innonence, it's really hard to find practice parties, it's only farm for mount with high ilvl, do you think it will be the same for eden savage or I still have my chance ?
you should have 2m+ gil for just leveling
200k a piece is dirt cheap compared to what you can make
Just hope I find a non salty party for the new extreme trial. Thank you for letting me know how hard it can be
ehh i wouldn't really say it's worth dumping all your money on crafted gear you'll replace in a few weeks, but 2-3 pieces you know you'll upgrade last can be worth it
Yes, I have 5m from leveling and dungeons, but I don't farm so I don't really earn that much, and I don't want to waste that on gears I'll replace easily :/
thats how gear prog works my dude
you can also try to leech raids and skip a tier but why not carry ur weight
also you wont be quickly replacing crafted 460 gear even if u somehow kill e1-4s first week
It'll still take months
@native tangle
I'm not trying to get carry !
I want to learn, progess and improve, but I thought it would be easier starting on a new tier (5.1 with a new Ex fight) than with a tier everyone seems to have cleared months ago, but if it's not possible, no worry, I'll do it as intended
nah there's new raiders like you still, trying to learn savage
and if there's no practice parties just make one yourself
tier's still relevant, just not super fresh
I'm a bit afraid to start and being expected to command, but hey, we all need to learn one day !
Anyway, thanks for the informations, that clarifies a lot of things for me 🙂
anyone know ravahn's discord link?
you the mvp, thank you!
is there a discord or community for previous ultimate reclears?
other than normal static recruitment discords
not any public ones as far as I know
i see, thanks
after 15 PFs
what a fucking gay fight triggers me how ppl cant do so simple mechanics
it's p fun
finally something interesting
would rather wipe to hades than suffer through 11min long titanias
hades fkn down
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what about it
Sorry where is the new dungeon ? Do I have to continue MSQ?
My static was like "lets do nier for fun"
Boss 2 takes a very long time when only 1.5 alliances are alive.
Also I'm not bitter that alliance a for ASS got all the glamours at all 😏
anyone want a nice hades ex macro?
(I honestly dunno if this should go here but i'll drop it here xD)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/dpe2mu/hades_ex_positioning_macro/
yeah let me just copy it from the picture 
its in the reddit link xD
oh thought it was an image link preview
looked messier posting it in a code block here
can you even paste it in chat?
gnb > drk > pld > war
Where can I find clear groups for Hades or those on Phase 4/Final Phase?
party finder
Nowhere because GCBTW
pf
statics that are missing 1 member or 2 has highest chance to clear
TIL reprisal dont need targetting
its a debuff that apply around you
gotta be in mid of the pull to make sure you get full benefit from it
is fflogs up to date?
Now that we can unsync Rathalos EX, how many level 80s does it take to clear?
wait, new reprisal is centered on you? mst the fuck
i could swear it said target and all enemies nearby
yeah it's on you
oh thank you
What is the difference between rDPS, pDPS and aDPS on FFLogs?
Info
- RaidDPS (rDPS) is: Your TotalDPS minus the damage from buffs you received plus the damage from buffs you contributed
- Personal DPS (pDPS) is: Your TotalDPS without being adjusted for buffs.
- aDPS is: Your TotalDPS minus single target buffs applied to you (devilment, dragon sight, astro cards, etc)
so whats the most common for people to look at when checking their parses?
rdps is the default nowadays
thank you 🙂
For the new extreme trial is it better for boss to be true north or arena true north?
I haven't done the fight yet but just will mention, "true north" by definition uses the actual direction north as north, always. So in reference to the arena. If positioning is relative to where the boss is facing it is instead "relative north", or "relative to the boss"
I'm trying to find out which one is better, because I seen both in party finder. Where players treat the boss as true north or arena as true north
and not like, MT going to the side of the boss cause he's turned
I found it better for boss to be true north but I guess some see it differently
relative north is almost always better but people are real bad at relative north for some reason sometimes
so that's why PF has a tendency to force true north even though it's often dumb to do so
my favorite example of this was back for O1S with alte roite where he would return frequently facing south, but PF would love to just turn him around to face north each time
and again, I do strongly recommend not referring to boss-relative positioning as "true north" at all
relative and true are just oxymorns
true north are true because there is only one true position
yeah
never call relative positions true
true north is just north, hard stop
thats linguistically wrong
I do hope it gets a little better next week. I think I never done week 1 extreme trial. Was it kind of bad for the other 2?
hard to compare. inno and titania are much easier by comparison, and at the point of launch, the only "end game" content available so people jumped into it
this expac, 2B definitely takes a large portion of attention, a lot of people are still farming the glamours etc
Will say this extreme trial makes the other 2 feel like nothing compared to this one
comparatively, hades ex is a much harder trial ex fight and also, offers not exactly the most powerful weapon (raiders already have 475 for main and a few alts)
Yeah I just want the dragon
speaking of mount
Love dragons and this one should have the phase 1 music
Sin Eater lion is cooler than the dragon imo
so there's that
people going for A trains
for example, I haven't seven cleared phase 2 of hades ex yet. A lot of my raiding friends haven't put much time into it as well. Other contents are taking our attention for the first 2 days
yes the sin eater mount is 3600 nuts
Possibly the wrong channel, but I heard someone say you can solo go into the area of the latest raid to 'explore' after your first clear. I was running late and skipped through all the bits after the clear, how do I do this?
oops 3200
Just go back to the same place, you can re enter there
there should be a quest to gather stuff in the raid area
Awesome! Glad its not like some tiger requirement
given by the black and white dwarves
@minor halo @uncut charm Excellent, thank you
anyone play around on ninja after the patch?
@untold oyster hi
what about nin
prob wants to know how rework nin is
it's weird
i like it
I dont like the Shadow Fang change
good qol changes but mudras are weird as fuck
Feels weird to me
have to unlearn how you used them previously
that's why i didn't play 5.0 nin lul
no more nin and trick memes too
@rose atlas hi
hows 5.1 ninja
good thing i never played ninja
It’s neat
i got it to 60 way long ago before i quit playing cuz i was gonna main it
but kept tanking lmao
so now imma use it as my dps maybe
was trying to wait for more feedback from the community but 🤷
I messed up quite a bit during raid last night
I need to practice more, it was easy for me to forget shadowfang during hectic trick windows
does it damage compare well to the rest of the dps? i know blm is like a monster rn
was mostly deciding between SAM, NIN, SMN, and BRD
its dps is really good rn
badass
very excited
still at 60 since i only resubbed like ~6 days ago and ive been addicted to the Shadowbringer story
I did a little relearning last night and new ninja feels a lot better although also feels a lot more frantic to cram more into the TA window (followed by residentsleeper gcd use until enough gauge for something)
on controller it feels really cramped unless I were to throw away aoe rotations to a second crossbar (where my assist/self heal/lb skills are now)
hopefully they dont nerf them and just fix the TA window
yeah
inb4 people stand in stupid in mass (hashbrown's fire hand)
every time I've done royal city since 5.x I've seen that. they would go to the far end of the wrong side and get deleted
At least gear can carry the group easdily now
yeah
Easily* so its not as bad
the ultimate test of counting to 4
anyone know that the breakpoints are for max chances of rare items with combat and gathering retainers?
When you upgrade gear, like from i460 to i470, do you lose the materia?
If you didn't take the materia out?
yes
there's no actual "upgrade" happening
you're trading in the original item for the upgraded one
hm... I wonder if I shouldn't use any materia on my i460 gear then.
VII is for overmelding
On PLD I want to go for Direct Hit, right?
I only have two VI's for that. What is the removal % of the VII? Cause it's my next best.
yes (although depends on gcd speed/preferences)
Should I just use my VII's since I got a ton of them or should I get and use V's? Since I can't really get more VI's presently.
if you have a ton of VIIs may as well chuck them
like its not the worst thing in the world to not have 6/8s in, but having something in there is generally better than nothing
Yeah. I got like... 35 of them.
As I upgrade my gear I'll take them out and put VIII's in the new gear. Thanks!
(I know it's not upgrading and your just getting a new piece of gear but still essentially upgrading in my mind)
Well in this case I'm using 7s until I upgrade my gear and then I'll use 8s.
I don't have 6.
..........
Check how much they're selling for on the market board
You might be able to buy a bunch
Also they are 800 poetics in idyllshire for 6's
If you have nothing else to spend them on like me
Oh yeah. There they're in the market board. Why weren't they showing up earlier. I searched materia but it only showed me I through V
Just select the materia tab
or a part of the name of it for the stat type (and will get them all)
ty
hi all, i just started playing ff14 im lvl 40 now and im trying to figure out what purpose does hunting ranking have late on in the game .?
Pretty sure hunting is optional content
Hunts give special currencies, which are used to upgrade riding speed and buy other things
Oh, or do you mean the hunting log? Grand Company hunting logs are needed to rank up in the GC, but class hunting logs are optional
the only thing you get for a class/job hunt log is a lv 50 ring. and maybe completionist love
(the ring isn't worth it unless you're zoomed in a lot for screenshots)
thanks a lot!
If you were trying to make 2m gil in one day, what would you do? >_>
clear hades ex and hope ppl pass to you the auracite
You could also try to get lucky with Zonureskin treasure maps
you could also make a big dent in it by selling your stash of zonureskin treasure maps
Hi. Has red mage situation improved with the latest patch or is it too early to tell yet ?
RDM got a cozy buff, though not to the extent of buff that SMN got. But it's still a solid job that's very good for prog and still plenty fine for clearing/farming whatever
I guess the buff made it so overall its damage got better, but on long term rather than on bursts.
Kinda feels weird to pull out bigger numbers on a burst with a SAM 76 than on on my 80 rdm xD but I guess that's how the job is designed.
I saw that SMN suddenly got super high in ranking on eden raids too, what's up with its buff?
overall yes
burst is a pretty pointless metric
not really
but anyways, as far as SMN is concerned, they got some good buffs in general, but the big one that was potentially a bit overkill was them changing pet scaling to be 0.8 across the board for all egi
instead of ifrit and titan scaling weaker than garuda
it means that ifrit is a good deal stronger and titan isnt' awful for prog given how strong the utility is
(also, sorry if my ranting is stupid)
Rika
Interresting
I'm sorry
why?
not really quite the same but sure
How is the final form of Hades fight compared to the first form?
Still on phase 3 and it doesnt seem that bad
Like does it get way harder?
haven't had the time to touch the fight yet, personally
p4 is the easiest phase
it's like golden bahamut
exaflares and raidwides
and tank towers that don't even deal tank buster damage
Can't wait to see it! So far nothing too bad for DPS. Seems tanks have it harder
Just remember to dodge back into the exaflares after you dodge out so you don't keep getting damage downs like me 
The clear vids we were using as reference day one all seemed to be everyone's first time getting to p4 though
what's the damage reduction % on the exaflares in p4
Seems to be 25-35%
Lmao made it to phase 4
We wiped in a few seconds lol
I'm going to take a break and watch guides lol
just go to the edge when exaflares appear and walk into the first one after the telegraph disappears
tanks/melees can greed by going a bit deeper, into the 2nd hit
but the dps check is so lenient there's really no point
better to disengage and lose 3-4 gcds than eat one and die/get damage down
Man we were killing the first form and adds with ease. Higher level gear is really awesome in that fight
And I'm a Summoner so I dont need to greed anything :)
I think the last hit of it oneshots if you take it raw
Damn lol
Titanomachy is a bait
I really hope I clear it tomorrow.
Don't blow all your mitigation there
addle after the towers get resolved
I been doing it without titan, will I never need to use him
cause it's almagest right after
I haven't used addle at all for the previous phases,would've it helped the aoe from the Ascians?
I sometimes see deaths after that aoe
idk if there's any confirmation on universal manipulation, some say it can kill but i've never seen it tbf
but addling the blight after thunders resolve would be smart
nothing else earlier probably, nothing nearly as hard hitting
Cool! Just have to get used to that phase
Hi again. I saw here and there that now Reprise is to be used differently in the rdm rotation, can someone explain to me how?
movement in worst case scenarios
that's it really
and that's since 5.05, nothing changed with 5.1 as far as i know
Oh ok, from the sound of it is seemed like it was good to use it more often with acceleration to avoid overcap or stuff
well it got better damage, si it's the same as casting verfire or verstone now, but that's it, I think it's still a GCD
It's a gcd and mainly if u can't get a cast kn
Let's say at Levi before a Maelstrom
You can get an insta cast gcd but not a spell etc
mmhm
There's probably also a point where you'd reprise instead of mouli if it works for your manafication
Depending on mana
So it's small stuff but if you haven't had fight optimized it's a thing to look at the first than trying to optimize reprise tho
...sorry what?
I mean I get it, reprise is a low priority and all, but i think your autocorrect messed up your sentence xD
Optimize your cooldown and the fight
mhm
i still have much to learn, i'm terrible xD
Really hope it feels worthwile to play it now.
It is
Aside from the value you bring in making the other dps do more dps I mean.
In vaccum testing it's better than p ranged but worse than other casters
sounds about right, just have to see by how much
ranged are kinda in a bad spot in general
It's better than before with the buffs
yeah probably
still not great from what I heard
Anyway x) Thanks for the answer, have a good night^^
Anyone know the best raiding food for the tanks?
Kinda why I asked. I knew each was different but I only play drk and friends are asking what gunbreaker and paladin food
on gnb you use robe lettuce
same on pld
I always forget the gear calculator is a thing....I’m dumb >_<
or just check the bis in balance
Thanks
oh
nice
sorry i havent been into hades ex
not subbed til tmrw
i thought you meant
literally sb exdeath
its not exactly exdeath
since he didnt have a doom
also that doom is real hot business
you have 7 secs to top tanks and healers
its not easy task
every other topping mechs you got alot of time to do it
and even then
you dont need to top ppl after it too
i thought its easy tbh andhealers are just fullof it
Grand cross delta except also white hole
but man when i went as healer myself
it was tough to pull off
and last phase dmg is crazy
quadstrike hits incredibly hard for an ex trial
idk if there are any other raidwides in EX that just oneshot people without mitigation
earthern fury if you count the bleed prob kills you
Im so glad about mapping mitigation on e4s
Makes it way less monkaS with greeding healers
[sorry]
hades sounds like pug hell
its pretty much just like shin ex pug wise
i haven't had much issues
yeah its not that bad, 🤷
most the bads are still stuck in prog parties as far as i can tell so it's nowhere as bad to farm as titania and innocence
soon, soon
Is it possible to build a Mist Mansion on The Goblets so I can have a The Mists interior? (pillars/wall details)
ya p sure you can
Hmmm... that's weird
a friend transferred from The Mists to The Goblet
and his interior automatically became Goblet's
I know 5.0 made possible to use exteriors from other housing regions
but I'm still not sure about the interior itself
Interiors are locked to the housing district I'm pretty sure
hades pfs are surprisingly more consistent
than titty and inno
days
like viis said
most baddies still stuck in prog
most ppl i meet are with E4S wep
very rarely i450-i465 ppl
hmm no wonder i felt he wasnt healing
4k hps healer
jsut gotta clear all the dummies 🙂
We should leave clothing gender locked. Change my mind.
ok
if I'm level 80, what do I do with poetics? convert it to topsoil? is it only good for glamour?
!faq poetics
nice
I swear to God. I just want those boots. I'm partial to the rest of the outfit. I just want those 2B Boots.
We have an issue at E3S, the tank cones on black smokers are hitting the right side only
Anyone knows why this is happening? We have 1 tank on each side.
And 1 healer left and the other right
it targets the closest people so melees go max melee, tanks in the inner corners, ranged far out getting the tethers
ooh I see
For hades ex, how close to the center should tanks stand for black rose strategy
Every group so far that I've gotten to that point with has tanks/healers cluster around a 1 waymark on each edge
but every diagram I've seen has t/h spaced out onto the waymarks where the intersections are
usually i try to stand near the intersection but a little bit farther up
@hoary wigeon
Stand on the point of the octagon in the middle
ok
I just lock-on and stand in clcosest melee range
also what's this o9s strat I keep seeing referenced
oh
people use that positioning for universal manipulation
Alright, thanks. wasn't around for o9s, so no idea what that referenced
yeah should really just call it dps out or whatever instead of referring to o9s but yeah
people are gonna call stuff what they are gonna call it
plus it wasn't exactly similar anyways
universal manip you use the tank/healer's donut to "kill" the dps first
9s is the tanks/healer gets knocked, then their donut kills the dps
yeah, it's just a point of reference for positioning. Which I can understand likening it to dps out, since it's pretty similar. But just saying o9s strat, when line strat was better anyways, is just kinda silly. But oh well
Line strat is better in Hades too :^)
Not sure how the speed of people getting through hades is, but I still have chances of getting into a party that'll clear during week 2 right?
Spent all day on it and kinda tired tbh
yeah probably, there's people clearing extremes everyday
Nice. I know people advise riding the wave before it's too late, so just wanted to check how much leeway that wave usually is
They are not wrong but its never too late
Its just really about how lucky you got with the party
In terms of SCH right now, why are they not doing so well? I'm getting mixed feedback on it.
🤷 SCH is doing alright so dunno what they talking about
its a great healer, so many tools
People are often weirdly fixated and/or straight-up wrong about balance stuff
for samurai gear, should I focus on crit or attack speed or both?
meld your gear to your skill speed you want
then its Direct hit > Crit > det
@sweet folio
thanks
so if I wanted to max out, the hades sword's direct hit and crit stats would be BiS?
ninja endgame materia?
if u wanna max out without savage you will want to eventually get i470 weapon upgrade from nier raid in 5.15. Otherwise hades is good for now
@sweet folio
Critical hit>Direct hit>Determination>Skill Speed @timber nexus
savage?
Eden's Gate 2nd difficulty
Ohh for some reason I misread eden as hades
if u do the savage raids then your max weapon item level is i475 from beating up titan
Right now I'm sitting at i450
make sure u do nier raid and get the free i460 drop from it
Eulmore
its next to where you traded in your tomes
you can get twine or polish to upgrade deepshadow equipment
in 5.15 you can get solvent (weapon upgrade)
now bad ppl cleared hades i couldnt get single kill in 2 hours meanwhile i used to get 5 or so kills in same time
yup

slowly getting worse
also
how ppl can eat the shadow cannon
you see big ball in front of you
how can you not dodge it
I wish i could just trade shadowbringers dungeon junk gear for eulmore tickets
im half way toward 99 totems now
but idk how long it will be now
after yesterday crap i had
so can you only get the eulmore i450 gear from crafting?
Or from Eden's gate nomral
I bought a few pieces
Oh the i460 green equips?
nah i450
u can upgrade it to i460
yes, for eulmore tickets
trade you i450s HQ for tokens
then buy something rain
cost 100 geotia
trade the tokens + rain for HQ i460
looks like hades transition require it at below 30%
not 35%
from what i noticed
mm hmm its 30%
I got gsm up to 400ish by crafting like 100 of each ShB needle, stonegold, titanbronze and Dwarven
so I imagine others could be done similarly
Are pages dropped from savage once a week only or every run?
once per week for current tier. So for Eden savage, one per floor per week
and you have to go in order (E1S -> E2S -> E3S -> E4S), if you skip one of the fights and even enter a later one past your progress you lose all chance at loot from earlier floors for the week, including the page
Oooh ok thanks!!
anyone know what numbers i'm supposed to be pulling in full edengate gear (450) with a Titania weapon, no materia
by the time i'm done with descent savage's dummy i'm always around the 11700s
it depends on the job. Some jobs have sims over on the balance discord server that you can put in your stats and it'll give you an estimated dps based off of that
!faq balance
@ocean relic whats your job first off
DRG
around that, i guess
you also gotta keep in mind
dummies do not simulate a real raid scenario
yeah it's likely i'll lose 1k possibly more at some point in the run if i make a mistake or some unforseen downtime etc
and i'm running E2S so when we're dodging cycles i'm either perfect or i'm dead
FFLogs Data
Eden Prime
Dragoon: (13444/17461) [10102.9 DPS] [29 Historical] [9:52]
Warrior: (2577/10738) [7349.48 DPS] [77 Historical] [7:38]
Gunbreaker: (10638/14573) [6288.47 DPS] [29 Historical] [8:34]
Voidwalker
Warrior: (1953/8492) [8720.22 DPS] [79 Historical] [9:14]
Gunbreaker: (10429/11588) [7145.68 DPS] [13 Historical] [9:53]
Leviathan
Warrior: (2380/6802) [8086.89 DPS] [65 Historical] [9:34]
Gunbreaker: (8388/9218) [6965.45 DPS] [9 Historical] [10:50]
Titan
Warrior: (3369/4493) [7515.4 DPS] [26 Historical] [13:05]
Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse. Use !classlogs for more detailed information and more report links. Classes limited to 4 per boss.
There's the drg gear planner
Which tells you your theoretical DPS
Just need to put in yourgear info
@ocean relic
And e2s is probably the closest you'll get to it this tier because the fight is theoretically 100% uptime
For Hades Extreme is it better for healers/tanks to handle ice/fire tethers?
yes
Thank you, I didn't know that. Thought as a ranged I should get 1 one of them.
all dps get random so there's too much rng involved, tanks always get the one north of their add and healers the south of the opposite add
Well that makes phase 2 even easier for me now :) Really enjoying this fight!
What is the English consumable 強化薬
We just use our tanks to invuln them
@lusty turret
the weapon upgrade
If the DPS and heals just stand in the middle all the tethers point inwards and tanks can easily grab both of them and invuln with nobody losing any uptime
advanced tictacs
Oh that's good! Right now I need to get better in the final phase
That awkward moment when you buy and upgrade a crafted weapon and then remember you have 10 phantasmagoria tokens for the weapon 
I have that tomestone too which makes it hurt that much more lol
I feel like upgraded tome weapons aren't even worth it anymore with hades weps
just buy left side
I guess if you play 2 or 3 jobs
hello im pretty new just curious, is tank or healer more in need right now
healer
Adventurer in need tends to be more tank than healer but healer queues are usually instant where tank queues are extremely short but not instant
in most content the need goes to healers
it started to get normal lately
and tank being more in need slightly
undoubtedly tho tank and healer queues are nice
someone just sent me datamined debuffs for tea and im getting scared
why
Good number of those are pretty expected, honestly. It's the ones in the top right that are interesting, and you can surely expect them to reuse some other old debuffs as well for the fight
ill be pretty spooked if they force players to do nisi the intended™ way
They probably will but ||the ones up there aren't regular nisi of course, they're the final judgement nisi from gavel||
For the grassman hunt, is there a way to reduce the damage of his chest thumps? The damage output is pretty insane and on whm I just can't keep up
sch sacred soil
Also just make sure people stack.
does anyone have a picture of the EoE weapons
they're not ingame yet if you mean alex
but that's EoA if anything, more commonly TEA
Epic of Pepsiman
PMR pepsiman raid
TEA but its just pepsiman 4 times in a row
@copper halo , for orbs, just go to the side that the arrows are pointing in
I see. 
I don't think the mechanic changes if you're W/E since the laser will always only point left or right from wherever you set it
And N/S is basically the same except that the melees can mess you up and get the party killed
You don't need the Savage weapon for Alexander Ultimate right?
You'll need to clear E4S and the fight will be tuned around everyone having i475 weapons
We'll see how crazy that fight is next week. And thank you!
Ultimate fights are always tuned with the assumption that everyone is having max gear or even BiS
We'll I can't wait to see the skills of hardcore raiders. And sadly I can't even get lucky with bis gear.


What's a good threshold health for titan in each form?
Week 1 dps?
Titania weapon immaculate accessories ronkan armor level of dps.
ronkan on week 1 is a insult cause you could just buy facet
Tell that to the pugs. Haha.
Hmm, 70% for p2 and 28% for p3
I sometimes see people with ronkan pieces still 🙂
or worse (re: my rant about my sam dps. self inflicted because I couldn't be assed to lose crit)
:worry
whenever i see a war meld dhr i cry a little
had a tank who just melded sks on gnb
and dhr on drk
pugs are really something yknow
speedbreaker!
tbh that tank could be in here
idk
i have his ign so i tend to avoid his ass
consistantly does low dps it seems from his logs
oof
how low is low?
hes below 9th percentile
i don't know what that means
basically theres a program called fflogs
9th percentile is considered bad
anything below 9th percentile is unsavable
I'm still new to it, I checked myself and I have no idea what it says besides showing how much of a difference my dps is towards to the other
9th percentile means youre doing better than 9% of players on your job
oh, that is bad
although percentiles only take clears into account
so a 1st percentile log is still better than someone who hasn't cleared 🙃
nothin' wrong with living in gray town
hell, there's nothing wrong with not having cleared savage
i've not done savages
i've seen someone do no dmg before
everybody's gotta get their first clear sometime
and ur obviously not going to be optimizing uptime or anything your first clear
i agree that you should do your best for your party members' sake, i'm just saying gray parses aren't necessarily a moral failing lol
I sometimes take too long to fit my mudras into the 15 second time window and keep doing it despite vuln expiring
I try my best when I'm free while on a dummy, just not sure if I'm fitting it in
it helps to know that someone's somehow shittier than me
Parsing grey and green in like week 15 whenever people have gear is whatever
nice fanart
im 75% sure this would be impossible to resolve
assuming the mechanics function as they did before
nah looks doable enough, but at some point you just have to wonder how many tethers can you put on one person
and how many tethers on the arena in total lmao
like 7 tethers
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/xPvwDTXNJ2fk4VBz#fight=3&view=rankings&playermetric=rdps idk I dont understand how cant I get a 99 on a fucking golem why am I so bad
try critting more
funny how i know like half the ppl in the log
Funny to see myself in that log lmao
👋
@young burrow aren't you the same person who did the 100 inno/titania log when my static was like 6/8 cus 2 ppl had irl shit
Sounds familiar. But now I don't really know who you are.
@young burrow i gotta ask, do you usually hit that high on whm
Yes
god, thats scary
@foggy latch Is there any timers for that? Like what goes when? Otherwise solving it will be hard to determine
huh?
The pic you posted. I’m going to send it to my group to do a mock “how would you solve this”
But what’s the order of operations
no timers
So just all at once
I sincerely hope Alexander rewinds time throughout the fight and makes you deal with Alex mechanics and other mechanics like Digititis and NISI
would be more interesting if there was a tetrashatter before this and you have to move into position quickly
why is your sonic break on a macro
so i weave it with bow shock
and before u say macros are bad its gcd with a cd
so i dont clip
assuming i dont doubleweave right before its ready
im not saying its good or anything
but it doesnt affect me on my current latency
may affect others yes
thats not a question though
it will affect you but the effect will be minimal
its still 76/140
what's the current ilvl to get everything for retainers
.... How come SMN now have better dmg than BLM
@dull radish because you explain things better
SMN does not do more damage than BLM on any fight but E1S. The margin is much closer in general, though
I'm assuming E1S purely because of the Add phase?
SMN got a pretty notable buff, particularly regarding pet scaling, but it still trails behind BLM
yeah SMN can pad on meteors while BLM cannot
they might get slightly more out of the two adds as well but it's mainly about the meteors


how the fuck does one manage that
my latest titan kill was a 36
i have never seen such bullshit in my life 
hit boss harder
So I'm stuck on something
I can't decide which sibling to support
Both have good points
it doesn't matter tho in the long run
So either I support do it with reckless abandon
Or with caution...and because of the amount of fighting
So what would I do after facing a android piloting a tank
And Engels
It's obvious for anyone who played Nier Automata
Shame I didn't get to play the ENTIRE raid
Anyway
i know it's not spoilers, but you won't find many people to talk about lore here
well some people don't have anything to do until Ultimate, so why not cull the Titan population
lul what
Question: How do I do the mechanics for the final boss of the nier raid while crying
what mechanics
Dodge. Dip. Dive. Duck & Dodge
Fair
Does someone know a graph or something that shows the exact blindspot on Hades EX?
during dark currents
it's the tine sharp end of that ornamentation?
yeah where the small black arrow is pointing i think
Thanks @lyric summit ! I got to be lazy in the safe spot alone while my party decided they didnt want to use it.
blindspot?
a spot between 4 exaflares in hades EX
where u dont get hit by any of them
if u stood in that very small pixel correctly
blm mostly benefit from it cause no movement
tank can too if its the front one
for max uptime
you can also uh
just slidecast the exa
it doesn't really change anything other than being able to be lazy and not move at all, instead of being able to move without loss
Safe spot to leylines i guess
easily
ley lines wasn't up there when I ran it though either but I just kinda winged it on the two clears that I did blind so I could have drifted them a bit just fine
Never thought I'd see Bongo in here.
I never thought I’d be here either 
darn
If they can make Leviathan Savage way more fun than Leviathan Extreme, then I can't wait to see what they do to Ultimate Alexander tomorrow!
Wonder will this channel be in slow mode tomorrow
probably not
Its going to be lit! XD
Can't wait to see what they do with nisi
Didn’t datamine show like 3 or 4 different Nisi
final judgement nisi, not regular nisi
👀
though they can just reuse the old nisi debuff (and likely will in some fashion, too)
final judgement nisi is barely spooky
just means go kill your steam regulator
Wouldn’t it still be a “new” buff in the datamine since they would need to adjust the damage?
Are the alexander savage raids doable with 4 maxed geared level 80 players?
unsync? yeah
I think there might be a few that have some stuff to keep an eye out for
but most of it you should be fine
Ah okay nice
you'll probably run into trouble with cruise chaser and limit cut
you can probably just skip limit cut
if you push him low enough he just phases right on through
and if you can do that, you certainly kill far before the final phase limit cut
i see
Alex Prime might be tricky with odd numbers btw
they have 4 people so it's fine
4 different nisi



