tbh e2s would be easier if SE did not nerf LB gain by critical healing
#endgame-lounge
simple sky
my E1S kill is 10:02 let me just ell you
lusty oak
you could generate so much LB 3 there
stable basin
So you only need to be doing like 65k during your uptime
simple sky
56 429.9
stable basin
And that number gets boosted by having 2 adds and the downtime letting skills come off cd
stable basin
If you just barely beat e1s enrage then you won't even get e2s down to 10%
simple sky
well
again
the other dps were shit
so I just need an E2S where the dps aren't grey
:^)
like
stable basin
And you wouldn't even get a 20% e4s enrage 
stable basin
wew lad
simple sky
so
lusty oak
lusty oak
tbh melees in my group were grey on e2s kill
lusty oak
played too safe and got flares to run out/eyes
im 40% green, BLM low blue
still killed that bitch
simple sky
I'll kill it blue (I say this with no confidence)
other than that my left hand hurts so I am going to sleep
foggy latch
@lusty oak u can dodge chaos cycle
with no stacks
tho its harder to pull off
u can stand between imps as soon they pop
after guilouttine
u wont get any stack
stay in for slicer
then go back to your cleavers
you can practice the placing at guilottine in earlier phases
foggy latch
why?
lusty oak
D R A M A
inner yacht
is titania worth anymore?
inner yacht
over a hundred runs yesterday and couldnt beat her
pearl tide
Dragoon is hard to Play class ?
quaint marten
Dragoon is consisered the easiest melee to play
pearl tide
But compared to Black mage he is same od harder?
pearl tide
Ok how many bosses did u killed on savage in eden?
hybrid rapids
4
uncut charm
pearl tide
So tsun do you confirm that gameplay of dragoon is easy as on Black mage?
hybrid rapids
tsun cleared 0
fighting internet ultimate
i don't play drg nor blm
and also drg and blm is 2 different job
drg difficulty on keeping the uptime
blm on repositioning and no losing the cast
rotation wise drg is harder
quaint marten
Bruh. You asked a question. I answered then you dont believe me. You ask for what?
hybrid rapids
it's no wrong to take opinion from different pov :P
calm down, you're doing fine
pearl tide
As tsun said
quaint marten
i was refering to this statement "Ok how many bosses did u killed on savage in eden?"
!
?
pearl tide
This Was check how reliable are your informations
lyric summit
you don't need to clear savage to be able to answer simple questions
foggy latch
^
dragoon rotation is static
and is more about keeping uptime
blm is about how to limit your movements as much as possible
and about not losing casts
both are simple if you got nothing that affect your rotation cycles
maintaining the optimized play is the difficult part
stuck wigeon
does anyone know the number of coffers dropped in e2s and e3s? not chests, coffers
stuck wigeon
you sure its 3 in e3s?
foggy latch
we did 66k at 10%
and fight need 73k
even without those 2 deaths
doing 7k extra is tough
dull radish
well, because there's other drops from the other fights
heavy mist
yeah in 2 u get weapon tome + accessory/belt upgrade
3 u get armor and tome wpn upgrade
4 u get mount + 1 random wpn drop + Minion
essentially turn 1 gives less loot compared ot previously
unless u count belt as 2 acc i guess
spare karma
is there an e3s timeline anyone could link me to please
spare karma
yes please
heavy mist
spare karma
thanks a lot!
heavy mist
np
bold jungle
Where can I see which materia should I use? I've seen The Balance but it only said how my GCD should be and don't know how to look that
serene lotus
I think you select a role there to open up a few more channels with that stuff
dull radish
it's a bit tight yeah
you'll really want folks in 450 for it and knowing what they're doing
dull radish
I dunno, E2S was super quick for us
vale dagger
Oh wow....makes me wish I geared up my caster first instead of my physical range
errant kayak
Our group had trouble with the e2s dps check, but there was also the factor that we only had 1 high rdps job
dull radish
and you didn't have issues with the dps check for 3?
we didn't even come close to enrage in 2 with deaths or folks getting the damage down haha
but we killed 3 during the enrage cast
simple sky
I'm pugging, mechancis for E2S were easy, dps is pug problem
vale dagger
Your group did!?
vale dagger
Oh come on don't say that lol
errant kayak
We’re on the tethers part, but compared to clear vids and their % at each phase we don’t seem too far
Dps is definitely a problem for pugs in e2s
simple sky
the fight isn't hard mechanically imo
dull radish
to be fair, the enrage cast is long and you have time after the enrage finishes to kill it, for 3
but it's definitely more demanding
simple sky
want to get 2 down this week and feel accomplished or something
vale dagger
I will feel happy clearing 1&2 this week
simple sky
I know I shouldn't feel upset that I got to E2S enrage but I really wanna clear it
vale dagger
You can do it!
simple sky
👍
stable basin
e3s is like 26 seconds from the start of enrage castbar to the end of the wipe
My group killed with ~5 seconds left on the castbar and we were almost green for speed
e4s dps requirement is ridiculous at min ilvl though, the fastest group so far was about 2.5% ahead of the check
quick verge
i feel like the dps check for e4 can be mitigated with some cheese strats
you can either ranged lb2/3 the first healer gaols, or caster lb3 the 2nd set of gaols
and some strat variations that favor melee uptime
ill have to see when i go back in tomorrow
quick verge
it do
stable basin
I'm not on the group with the ranged so idk where he's standing but I see the very tip of it touching the gaol on my section
quick verge
stable basin
oo
blissful willow
Out of curiosity, what should be like some recommended HP percentages that Voidwalker should be at during E2S?
Like how far should it be burned by first Entropy, double flares, first quietus, etc.
quick verge
80% by the time 1st entropy starts casting
43% by the time the double flare phase starts
20% by the time quietus 1 starts casting
simple sky
k
blissful willow
Ok, thanks 👍
Wait @quick verge is it the quietus before or after the first cycles?
quick verge
before
quietus > cycle 1 > cycle 2 > quietus > cycle 3 > quietus > quietus > quietus > enrage
something like that
first quietus it should be at 20%
simple sky
those imps make the cycles very annoying
quick verge
dodge them
simple sky
obv
quick verge
skipping quietus will be bliss
stable basin
they really stepped things up this tier
everything except e1 has an enrage sequence like o4/8/12
actually idk what e1 does for enrage lol
quick verge
it takes some special bullshit to see enrage in e1s tbh
simple sky
I pugged it and the other dps were trash
SAM didn' tuse hinganbana for example
not once
deep shoal
we just had a 4th quietus wipe us in voidwalker's enrage phase. I thought she only used 3, wtf happened?
simple sky
3 then enrage quietus
deep shoal
Like a 4th fast cast fyi. This was not the enrage itself, we wiped to that after she destroyed the rest of us
deep shoal
Looking at the logs and comparing it to our last enrage wipe, it was 10:30 pull vs that one which was 10:35. We got robbed
quick verge
show the log
deep shoal
This was the clear with the 6th quietus. We learned to tank lb1 that but yeah it doesn't result from extending the fight, she just used an extra for some reason
foggy latch
man E3S dps check is ugh
4% enrage no deaths + pots
maybe our rdm should consider going blm
to do 2000 extra dps
along with healers start doing more dps
heavy mist
the answer is penta meld
foggy latch
im already doing that
idk about others
also drg need to step it up abit
i shouldnt be outdpsing him as mch
silent hearth
recommended ilvl for savage eden?
stable basin
Fox Dyo's guides are good
He has a video guide on Reddit for e4s which I haven't watched but I assume it's quality because my group used his text guide for confirmation on some mechanics
idk if he has stuff for earlier floors though
foggy latch
how much tincture grade 2 increase someone dps
dull radish
Not much over grade 1
dull radish
Mmhmm. Definite increase, but nothing too big
dull radish
Yeah that's what I had meant. You're not going to get all that much of an increase in dps using grade 2 over grade 1. The exact amount is gonna depend on job and isn't the easiest thing to just estimate
foggy latch
you still didnt get my question
i mean how much a pot would increase the dps
assuming i used tincture grade 2
dull radish
It's a similar answer to the end of what I said
The exact amount is gonna depend on job and isn't the easiest thing to estimate
lyric summit
it's hard math cause opener burst, raid buffs, job burst etc
dull radish
And also is gonna depend on how many you get off, how your buff alignment is, etc
lyric summit
in the long run it's gonna be like 1-2% increase max anyways
nothing huge but definitely noticeable if you get a good opener
terse phoenix
Clear parties are getting worse, about to bite the bullet and ask for a page clear :/
glossy musk
Sell ya one :^)
inland plover
simple sky
all the dancers are in E1S clear parties :^)
glossy musk
I'm surprised how competent the PUG parties are this week. e3s being cleared regularly on primal in PF
lyric summit
it's not a very difficult 3rd floor fwiw
glossy musk
Yeah but PUGs are a special breed
I hear Aether pugs are a mess but so far Primal has been pretty clean
not great performance in DPS but
they can stand in places properly
tfw the healers and war have to carry the dps lul
0 deaths btw
unreal flax
Oh hey, I've run Alex with Icy and Pixie. They're cool.
hoary socket
Not many groups have cleared E3S at all so far so parsing grey isnt quite as memetastic as it is 8 weeks into a tier
stable basin
Clean Titan enrage 
simple sky
Just deal more damage 4Head
stable basin
we did it bois
lyric summit
nice
glossy musk
nice gj
stable basin
:3
hoary socket
I vote to make Calculator is not a job a mentor for that sage wisdom provided that got the pile of cats through E4S
mint flower
as im getting close to endgame random question. i come from wow, is there a melee direct hit cap, crit hit cap determination ext cap? if its more specific than melee range based, im a sam atm
torn kindle
in terms of gear each one has a maximum cap of secondary stats that can be on it
simple sky
👍
torn kindle
in terms of the stats themselves, there are no soft/hard caps, or at least ones that you could ever reach
simple sky
speaking of deal more damage I need these people to also do that
also stop getting damage downs
enrage good shit etc
stable basin
oof
simple sky
I live the hardest life
stable basin
Our MNK got 9th percentile but he switched from BRD today
And he did more rDPS than 100th percentile BRD
simple sky
lul
quick verge
actually a disgusting job
simple sky
pls let this end
crystal vine
For SCH do I want to meld crit to my right side or do I want that to be pure Det
torn kindle
Piety to comfort > Crit > det > spell speed/direct hit for most healers
Check the gear to see what melds it can take
foggy latch
1% levi enrage help
dull radish
what's your comp, anyone specifically stand out to be slacking on dps?
foggy latch
well
we have 2 rangers
so we lacking another job doing 12k+ dps
brd mch rdm and drg
only drg among us can hit 12k+
dull radish
what's your overall rpds looking like?
dull radish
mmm do you have a log of a close enrage wipe?
foggy latch
i need to ask raid leader if he got it
dull radish
it's a bit hard to diagnose without something like that
there's not too much as far as dumb strats you could do to really cost yourself uptime/damage, that I can think of
folks at least in all 450 stuff?
foggy latch
all are i450
dull radish
ok, figured
just was looking for maybe easier solution or something haha
but yeah, not much other than taking a look at a log and seeing where you can find the missing damage
foggy latch
i think healers could drop more dps
dull radish
while a different comp would help you should be able to get by
dull radish
WHM/SCH?
dull radish
yeah for us we had ~11.2k combined healer dps
well closer to 11.3 but yeah
could probably get damage elsewhere too but that's probably a good place to pick up at least a bit
foggy latch
that could be our issue
dull radish
mind you our clear wasn't clean and I was being a bit dumb with some stuff but here's where we were with it
dull radish
foggy latch
we just need 1 extra 1000 somewhere
maybe try use LB3 as soon it gets 3
and use another LB at enrage
dull radish
ye
foggy latch
dunno about rest
foggy latch
yup
dull radish
that's a good time for it
would recommend bringing it up so other people do
then the third is just free and cozy ofc
since you don't have anything else to deal with
foggy latch
3rd is during enrage sequence casts
dull radish
mmhmm
dull radish
should probably be fine for it yeah
stable basin
just switch brd->mnk
foggy latch
dull radish
double check raid buff alignment, try to get a log to see where you might get more damage from
job changes of course would help but it's not always that easy unfortunately haha
foggy latch
i was considering going blm there but im shit blm
stable basin
should LB during tsunami tho
dull radish
our NIN is swapping to MNK for 4
foggy latch
foggy latch
i doubt us killing E4S week 1
dull radish
yeah 4 this week is gonna be tight
probably need a good comp unless you have super solid players
foggy latch
if we have issues in E3S
stable basin
Next week or week after mnk might not be necessary
stable basin
We did hit a clean enrage on e3 and could maybe have pulled off an e4 by the skin of our teeth with that comp but every person would have had to had a god run
foggy latch
i assume they made checks with accs upgrades in mind since they are much stronger
10 ilvl difference feel as big as 15 or 20 now
dull radish
I dunno, biggest jump was to 450
stable basin
One thing with buff alignment is, enrage is right around 11 minutes
So hold buffs
To align at the end
stable basin
2 mins at 0/2/4/6/8/10:30, 3 mins at 0/3/6/10:30
dull radish
10:45 sounds like an especially fast enrage
stable basin
pots at 0:10/4:40/10:30
foggy latch
i use mine before pull
stable basin
I use mine at 10 but I think a lot of jobs use theirs earlier judging by the timing on the calls for pots I've heard
wait actually not pots at 4:40
do them at 6
You can hit the 6 minute reopener and then do another reopener at 10:30 with pots and everything
dull radish
after 2nd maelstrom seemed the coziest spot for 2nd pots, I don't remember timestamps
but it's probably around there
foggy latch
i will be happy with just E3S kill this week
then 2 weeks to kill E4S
since we have a goal to clear week 3
dull radish
what I've heard from E4S, the first phase is the hardest/most annoying, then lot of the rest is getting clean run/dealing with dps check
foggy latch
and so far we are doing much better than we thought
stable basin
wait people used pots at 0/5/10 on our clear
dull radish
our prog has felt pretty fast this tier even with so much lost time due to static member on famfrit on tuesday/dc's and power outages other days
foggy latch
also its ok to be grey in logs
dull radish
had like bit over 6h of raid total out of the ~12 we were supposed to have
foggy latch
the difference in rdps is very minimal
at least
in E3S
average mch is 11500
purple is 11700
orange 11900
green is 11200
grey is 11k
though it can make a difference in our case
stable basin
parses right now basically have like the whole bottom half lopped off
greybois just aren't clearing
stable basin
yeah
that's why they're so compressed though
Only people doing their rotation right have clears rn
foggy latch
if just we had a ninja
stable basin
Also idk how much time you have left but it took us ~15 hours for titan prog
foggy latch
i could get purple aDPS
we been in E3S for 10 hours now
i guess
seen 1st enrage 5 hours in
and next 5 been trying to get clean run + kill
titan 100% we wont meet its dps check week 1
maybe in week 2?
depends on the 3 floors drops
week 2
75% of mch bis is augmented
stable basin
nvm 19 hours for titan
we took about the same time to see enrage on 3s as you guys though
and ~10 hours for the tanks to be standing for titan enrage
so you can probably get a lot of titan mechs down this week
foggy latch
assuming levi die tonight
stable basin
I believe
foggy latch
also we raid 4 hours everyday
stable basin
1% is a lot but you can also make it up with cleaner run+more lb+buff alignment
foggy latch
LB is one thing that will shove about 500 dps
healers need to do abit more
and we see buffs alignment at the calm
foggy latch
maybe in balance
stable basin
I actually don't know what's up with the 0/5/10 pot timing in my clear but smart holding instead of just hitting buffs on cd is big
stable basin
I guess we just used pots on cd because there actually isn't quite enough time for a full pot window if you do it at 6
stable basin
Yeah just use pots at the end of the second downtime I guess
stable basin
Do this and you'll get a nice bump
2 min 0/2/4/6/8/10
3 min 0/3/6/10
pots 0/5/10
lb3 asap after dropping your puddles on the sides that get broken by quake
We made up a ~1% titan enrage by tightening up today, u got this
heavy mist
yeah if u dont wanna do the pentameld route which gives a decent amount of deeps
unless u guys are all penta
inner yacht
do you get anything for completing practice?
or you just get rewards when you complete the whole duty?
hexed topaz
Quick question
If a static consist of 2 ranged dps and 2 melee dps
Can they still enter
Or RF gonna say nuh
Talking about eden savage ^^
steady pebble
full groups ignore ilvl/role requirements
brisk inlet
Hey everyone! My DPS as a SAM is really bad, can someone help me out?
lyric summit
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
lyric summit
check the balance discord guides and resources
stable basin
\o/
foggy latch
it was a kill at very last milisecond
stable basin
ayy
rotund stone
He keeps calling me puny human.
unreal flax
Titan whispers directly into your ear as you lie still on the ground, "b i t c h"
dawn glade
I just got to 4% on titania ex dummy with ilvl 420 average and no materia, thoughts?
simple sky
upgrade your gear 😄
dawn glade
I know this
simple sky
what class
dawn glade
I was trying to clear it under geared with no materia on purpose
alas
that was my best rotation and 4% was my best percentage
after 40 mins of trying so i called it need better gear now
to do better
DRK
stable basin
It's legitimately not hard to do DRK rotation perfectly on a dummy
So you won't necessarily be able to clear it with whatever gear you have
restive scarab
Is there a place that has the tooltips for debuffs and such from eden savage, that can be read at a leisurely pace rather than in frantic glances between GCDs?
dawn glade
got to 3% while undergeared with no materia, time to upgrade
celest kiln
Hello guys, have you a macro for E3S please ?
clear verge
macro for what?
celest kiln
Eden 3 Savage (Inundation)
clear verge
I mean macro for what part exactly? Macro to mark people, or do a call out
celest kiln
Yeah, position macro for the blue AOE at the ground by exemple
stable basin
We establish spots in NA by standing around markers like civilized people
Except the one guy who calls a spot that's already taken
Then the guy in that spot adjusts on the first pull and you wipe on the second because he holds his ground
Then for the third pull Caveman says they should swap and then the tank pulls with no further clarification or agreement
lyric summit
just do this, call spots
then you can call people out with direct chat quotes if they go to wrong spots
thorn bear
macros are by far the most OP thing that NA never uses
I saw it in JP pf and it was so convenient
rancid willow
does anyone have a list of xp you get from each role quest?
I need to know how much xp I need to be off so I can do them in all in one go when i'm 79
nvm console game wiki has the xp listed with the quests (70 though 78 is 2.6mil xp from role quests if anyone wanted to know)
foggy latch
group was good in E1S - E3S in prog
then prog speed started falling apart in E4S
if damage going is the issue i would excuse them since they are getting used to healing or tanking
but they are fucking up cubes and pyramids in mechs
eating evil earth alot
or standing with cube ppl at kart/army titan
we been wiping to same stuff for 2 hours
we didnt even see crumbling down with everyone alive once which is the actual hard mech
rancid willow
dopes containtment bay Z1T9 (birthday cake) need 2 tank or 1 tank for unsync farms?
torn kindle
just one
foggy latch
no
rancid willow
okay good.
foggy latch
assuming you kill him before green tethers go off
thorn bear
if u get full level 80s u should kill asap I imagine
unless there's a hard cap on how much you can do like a4
rancid willow
just wondering if it needed a another tank before I do farm parties for them
foggy latch
he start last phase at 65
no need
and you have like
30 secs to kill him
before green tethers go off
thorn bear
yeah if you can't kill him in that time I imagine you'd move on to a different group of people who aren't afk
clear verge
you had vuln and didn't use any cds? would be my only guess
chilly willow
Ye I guess I was too close during the stack, if asummed the laser killed me.
But hitting for 98k is crazy having 2 cds up. damn
clear verge
is this maybe the 4 person stack attack? you might have taken that by yourself, that would explain the dmg
dull radish
Well not just by yourself, but as a tank you can't be the person first in line to take that hit, has to be at least one other party member between you and the boss
sinful storm
Savage loot question, if you win an item Is it locked to the job you win the roll with?
clear verge
far as I know you can swap to any job and open it
earnest current
It's locked to the job you open if i think
clear verge
which is the biggest negative about the new coffers
earnest current
everyone will roll on everything
sinful storm
Ah so I can win as heal and swap to tank for tank item? Sounds great
clear verge
because someone who has all their gear can still roll on it
hybrid rapids
Ahh
clear verge
it's a disaster for pugs
earnest current
pugs are the true hardcore gamers
hybrid rapids
Tbh it’s pretty good for static members to gear up and prepare for ultimates
clear verge
luckily i run with a static for loot should be roughly fair
hybrid rapids
But I can tell the disaster if pug
clear verge
if you could keep repeating the fight to get a drop then it would be fair
but because you get 1 clear per week, then it kinda sucks
clear verge
yeah I spose
foggy latch
no
manic quail
Wait, so if I don't get a coffer in e1s I can run it again and have a shot at loot?
quick verge
no
manic quail
I see the benefit with the coffers, but it does suck that it's harder really to get, especially for pugs
lyric summit
yeah it should be a mix of both imo
like e4s weapon still is
though I guess it completely eliminates non-bis pieces dropping for statics that wouldn't want them anyways, though the ilvl for prog would always be welcome
manic quail
Pug life 
restive pulsar
You still get the sheets though, so i dont see any negatives in the coffers, i remember just so ofter no piece for me didnt drop and i had to buy it with sheets anyways, and week 5 it droped so.... 🤷♀️ and back in ARR there werent even sheets wiched minimized your loot chances even more, so i dont see any negatives for Pug‘s 🙃
bold jungle
I'm thinking about downloading a dps metter, which one should I use?
dull radish
the only one that's really used at all nowadays is advanced combat tracker (ACT for short)
bold jungle
Cool, gonna check it, thanks!
How can I activate the ingame? I have this but ingame nothing shows up
lyric summit
that's for the super raw matrix-looking basic act overlay, you probably want something more advanced through the overlay plugin
hoary socket
Overlay plugin and Cactbot are both amazing tools to tie into ACT.
hoary socket
You can make it scream at you for a lot of different reasons lol
bold jungle
Okay, I downloaded it and changed the theme, but still not showing over the game
I think I'll need to play on borderless xD
bold jungle
Everything working now, thanks for the help! :D
harsh hedge
Anybody know of a drop table for eden savage?
lyric summit
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
harsh hedge
tyvm
pale pagoda
for e1s, meteor phase
on west side, blue will be north, orange south or differnet?
cold rain
How much is a good amount of Skill speed for MCH?
lyric summit
0
cold rain
please
lyric summit
it's a bad stat for mch
cold rain
ooo really
lyric summit
yeah basically
errant kayak
DH if possible then crit iirc
dull radish
you don't get any DH natively so it's always an option
and the correct one for now, as you gear up. Apparently at BiS crit is very slightly more worthwhile than dh, but until that point, dh all the way outside of potential stat tier memes
after cozy sks, yeah
stable basin
You can also get enough crit with pentamelds to beat out DH but it's a small advantage at 100% crafted pentameld and a small loss before that
bright plinth
does anyone know a good tool to use so i can make a timeline planner and just throw on skill icons? wanna map out the buff windows for the fights that have downtime and just so my static has a better idea of how to align stuff in general
lyric summit
my static has this weird google spreadsheet from the future but no idea how it works or how to update it for ShB, but it like detects some skills, mostly mitigation, like troubadour, and if you type troubadour it gets replaced with the icon
bright plinth
maybe someday ill stop being so averse to google spreadsheets but yeah lol, a piece of software instead would be nice
quick verge
disagree but ok
bright plinth
why
random siren
Is there a quest to unlock Descent savage?
random siren
Oh really?
huh
Thanks
First time raiding on FFXIV so still getting used to the savage system here
winged iron
What always drops from e2s? Weapon/acc upgrade and random gear piece? Or there is different disposition
lyric summit
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
winged iron
Damn technology u scary
foggy latch
coffers already make pugging nightmare
foggy latch
btw is there 5.05 SSS dummies HP values?
lyric summit
i started making one but i only have 8 80s
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ozbrvcWxqPa9fIiXqwnrMq1pKmV6TjNUUvoPdgPJe2w/edit?usp=sharing
gonna fill in whm and ast i guess
rdm when i get it to 80 after reset
foggy latch
alot of jobs missing
torn kindle
Vis just said they only had 8 jobs at 80
lyric summit
if you have them at 80 and wanna help then dm me the hp values
steady pebble
jeez vis, why don't you have all jobs at 80 already?!
lyric summit
not enough roulettes 
foggy latch
i mean
cant ask other job channels in balance?
i could help
but im ps4
cant parse myself
oh wait
i could have you accompany me at dummy
!whois @lyric summit
storm frostBOT
dawn glade
Got Innocence ex down to 23% in two lockouts yesterday
So close
The dps kept blowing up the stars >.>
party of randoms though so definitely not bad
slim yarrow
when you dps void too hard during prog so does 1 less quietus and memes your dps output
slim timber
finished leveling to 80 and tried titania ex with a group of 8 random people, was actually quite fun 😂 we got her down to 50% then the 1 hour expired 😠
oh god what are these emojis
dawn glade
I just got innocence ex down to 2%
we wiped at enrage
think how that feels
All because a numpty bard ran towards a star with aoe on the last star phase before enrage
: /
so we had to burn lb for heals
jolly mason
oh is the third (or fourth i forget) quietus in e2s determined by overall dps? I just thought it was random but til
dawn glade
our dps lb would have killed him -_-
also my other tank wasn't mitigating tank busters and got 1 shot on half of them -_-
that also didn't help
well im not perfect i missed a couple provokes but still 
2%
vale dagger
So if I clear Levi SSS with 7 seconds left and have 450 gear I'm fine right?
dull radish
!faq sss
storm frostBOT
vale dagger
Yeah asked around and it seems like I have Danced down and they told me we have too much rng
Thank you for this
crystal vine
How big of a mistake did I make buying the Deepshadow Mail of Healing for my chest rather than buying the crafted ilvl450 one
rancid willow
is it technically possible for monk to have full uptime for true north provided monk takes damage need it needs riddle of earth up?
scenic patrol
It's around 72% uptime
rancid willow
okay
glad tapir
Does anyone can tell me how to glamour my trust NPC!? Once they lvl 80. Seems I can't find that menu for
lament stone
this is something i would like to know as well
foggy latch
can u even glamour em?
torn kindle
not really, you can just give them their StB outfits IIRC
rancid willow
its not real glamour, just allowing them to wear their outfits from the source
lament stone
alright find it just need to right click them xD
well it call glamour ingame at least
restive pulsar
What Pots doe DRG‘s use for Raids?
torn kindle
Grade 2 Tincture of Strength
You can use Grade 1 Tincture of Strength for a weaker but more easily obtainable alternative.
unreal flax
Grade 1 for prog. Grade 2 once you've seen enrage and for parses
hexed topaz
Are sch and ast crappy now
torn kindle
No.
restive pulsar
@torn kindle thank you 😊
hexed topaz
It's hard to find a sch or an ast for my static and as far as i can tell pug savage groups tho
dull radish
congrats~
dawn glade
ty ty
he didn't even enrage
Now to do titania
and god am I dreading it, I'm getting Sephirot Ex ptsd flashbacks already
heavy mist
its more scripted, so if u like that you'll probably find it easier 😮
vale dagger
What's the lowest dps numbers I should be doing in E1S and E2S if I have the worst rng as Dancer?
lyric summit
like 8.5-9k in e1s, with transition downtime, and 10k+ on e2s
vale dagger
Oh good I was 9.2k in E1S and E2S there was some mistakes but I was 9.5k
lyric summit
just upload and check percentile
vale dagger
I'm on console our leader is the one that has ACT
thorn bear
the good ol days of asking what dps I finished the fight at 😩
serene lotus
You probably have no idea about most parsers since they don't say anything
hardy totem
^^ this
rancid willow
and if someone says something about having a parser in-game they are tethering on a board of someone easily able to report them.
lyric summit
i got most but still not all https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ozbrvcWxqPa9fIiXqwnrMq1pKmV6TjNUUvoPdgPJe2w/edit#gid=0
hp x (100 - hp% left) / time = dps
if killed then just
hp / time - time left = dps
rancid willow
anyone could help me out what the ??? instance is? Its between Castrum Fluminis and The Great Hunt
lyric summit
shinryu ex?
rancid willow
no I have that
steady pebble
Kugane Ohashi?
vale dagger
@lyric summit Thank you!
tiny gulch
Sorry if this is the wrong place to be asking this, but how can I know if I'm "doing good" DPS wise as a DNC? I've been wanting to start running Titania EX and I've been doing the SSS dummy thing to try and gauge that, but I've only been able to get it down to 1% before time runs out. (I also did it twice with my chocobo out to see if simply having it as a dance partner affected anything; the first time I cleared it with 29 seconds to spare but that's because I forgot to leave it on follow mode)
My ilvl is 440 with all materia slots filled with either dh or crit and I'm almost certain I've been doing everything I need to do in my rotation. I know DNC is the lowest in terms of DPS but I'm generally self-conscious about my numbers in case I'm being parsed... and I thought with the SSS dummies it's basically a "if you kill it in time you're good, if not you need to do better" kind of thing...
dull radish
!faq sss
storm frostBOT
dull radish
SSS dummies aren't really a good metric to gauge performance at all. Your best bet would be to just start to try to run content, look at guides, perhaps see if you can get a log uploaded and taken a look at by folks who know how to play the job well, like on the balance discord
tiny gulch
Ooof... thanks... I kind of feel silly for asking that now ^^;; Didn't know about that faq sorry
I play on PS4 and I really wish there was a more accurate way of measuring things in game. I'll try to see if I can get a friend to help me out with that then
silent hearth
@tiny gulch while its nowhere near a good metric i can tell content is possible if i can hit 3% to completion
more than once obviously
then its just lucky crits
tiny gulch
I see, thanks 😃
strong timber
The loot roll struggles
Roll a 98
Someone rolls a 99
Deadass thought I won it was that one piece I needed too 😔
hexed topaz
No matter how high you roll expect someone to roll higher than you
That way youre never disappointed
hybrid rapids
Go100
lusty oak
what is E3S DPS check?
hybrid rapids
@lusty oak around 72k rDPS
hexed topaz
Every static be looking for none whm healers
My case is proven
Sch and ast are broken
simple sky
no double whm is just aggressively bad
simple sky
...
simple sky
but what I was saying (whcih you disagreed with) is that double whm is bad
hexed topaz
Like seriously ast main game point is taken away
simple sky
so people need ONE of the other healers
hexed topaz
And sch aswell
simple sky
SCH is prob still better than AST
but people are willing to take AST over a second WHM
simple sky
just play SCH 4Head
potent pond
Hey, could anyone tell me where to find the levi ex macro PF parties use? or are they custom tailored/made? Edit: Savage 😃
potent pond
tbh it just speeds up the position allocations and what not, can just put a marker down.
heavy mist
we dont have any macros at least here. maybe better off asking the balance or waiting to copy someone's when they post it in chat. If you in NA we dont use it. In EU, depends on the party. If in JP, you'll see it often
potent pond
Yea in EU. Will do, cheers.
foggy latch
whats levi EX macros?
serene lotus
Do you mean E3S macro? Or are you serious about Leviathan Extreme from ARR?
thorn bear
levi extreme don't you just beat his ass before anything happens? lol
potent pond
I just realized what I wrote lol. Added a quick edit.
unreal flax
Last time I did Levi Ex, you couldn't push him because he'd wipe you
livid ravine
hey guys check out some strat illustration and timelines for the current raid tier: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/co5orl/eden_timelines_and_strats/
lyric summit
oh i thought we had timelines pinned
let me yoink the usual image ones from the balance
prisma shard
At the bottom of this guide, theres a PF macro @potent pond
Same for the other guides by the same person, theres PF macros at the bottom
heavy mist
saw his edit
potent pond
Cheers
stark oyster
Does anyone know the superbolide timing for titania ex for fae light
My superbolide is never up on 2nd fae light
heavy mist
you have to share since superbolide wont be up
@stark oyster
just the nature of the timeline of the mechs
heavy mist
yeah since she reverses the mech order after the transition
uh i think WAR and maybe DRK?
stark oyster
Ah ok
stable basin
They're about 5 minutes apart
Very fast groups right now can kill adds quickly enough that DRK won't have LD for the second
PLD also runs into problems using hallow on the lightning tether
stark oyster
for spear of paradise in e1s, if the off tank provokes while the boss is casting it, the 2nd hit will always go to the off tank right?
serene lotus
Yes, that's the "intended" way of swapping, both tanks get hit really hard, but only the first one gets the debuff
clear verge
there is also an easier strat that most parties use and that is the current tank uses their invuln to take both hits
and then the other tank provokes
serene lotus
Yeah, that's why I put "intended"
snow plover
In innocence, after add phase, just for clarity.. does he ingore mitigation like SCH shields?
wow I forgot how to use English
or more so, putting a shield up after the last add won't count for his ult cast
lusty oak
cast calculated right after adds died
snow plover
so essentially, the damage being dealt is determined at the point he starts casting
so putting shields after would have no affect on that specific cast?
and shields should be placed before the last add dies?
quaint marten
yes
it snapshots just as the last add dies
so as long as your shield are up before then, it counts
snow plover
huh, weird cause I've seen SCH put shields up before and when the cast goes off they get consumed
quaint marten
yes they get consumed only if the shield was put up before the last add dies
if the shields are put up after all the adds are dead and inno is still casting, it doesnt count
its the only boss ultimate attack that works like that thankfully
snow plover
alright cool, good to know for the future. Thanks 
lusty oak
it depends on server tick
snow plover
on server tick?
foggy latch
unreal flax
What are we looking at?
scenic patrol
Timer ran out as they got to big Titan
lusty oak
y e s
stoic raven
foggy latch
gz
vale dagger
If BLM has to go north for a mechanic at the start of the fight, should they just sprint there and then start the opener or just triple/Swiftcast the beginning part of the opener?
lyric summit
you use triple early in the default opener which should already give you enough time to preposition
thorn bear
unless you ened to be there instantly yeah just triplecast lol
vale dagger
Thank you!
rough swan
I feel sorry for the healers in Rathalos Extreme
Due to the fact that there is a phase where it says
"Sorry your healing does jack in this phase"
hexed topaz
"Hey you know your class is based solely on healing and we gave you less damage based spells? Well yeah here you cant do the thing you do and you cant do anything else aswell. Shoulda l lvled a gatherer you stupid fu*k. Oh also we dont like healers thats why for 2 expansions we didnt add one and nerfed the existing ones. :)"
quick verge
are you okay bud
quick verge
ok
fossil atlas
steady pebble
cool story bro, this isn't the place to complain about it
steady pebble
I'm not really sure why its a hard concept to understand that this channel is not for complaining in
either go to #rants or #general-discussion
hexed topaz
4)explain how all main ast and sch went whm in shb
This is endgame discussion though
quaint marten
Actually its the whm main going ast/sch in sb coming home.
hexed topaz
Isnt whm op now tho
lusty oak
no?
steady pebble
complaining about healers isn't discussing issues
so if all you want to do is complain about it, go to rants as said before
quaint marten
Whm is strong this patch but there are still things sch/ast can do that whm cannot
And things sch/ast can do because a strong whm allows then to do it.
hexed topaz
:) i dont want to just complain im here to have civil talk about healers and how i don't like the changes to ast and sch which =/= rants because im willing to take opinions from others who actually main healers in shb
hexed topaz
Stop assuming that im.here solely to rant.
The way i start the conversation means that i have to go to another channel to discuss it there?
steady pebble
Or maybe start the discussion off with an actual discussion
instead of a rant/whine
hexed topaz
Okay ill take that of note in near future
wheat garnet
As for healers. I play a lot of SCH lately. And as far as endgame is concerned, it's a lot of fun. The DPS side got blasted to Oblivion. But Savage has enough things to do for this to not be a problem
hexed topaz
I just don't understand the whole having lily gauge have the same function as aether gauge for sch
quaint marten
Same function?
hexed topaz
Yeah isnt it for a 2 instant heal skills
quaint marten
Lily compensates the whm for healing
hexed topaz
Like sch indomobility and and lustarte
quaint marten
Aether gauge forces sch to either heal or dps
hexed topaz
I havent lvled it i read through the skills mostly
quaint marten
Excog and sacred and energy drain as well
hexed topaz
Sch being based on aether gauge made me think energy drain would bave the same function as smn energy drain
As i itll fill up the gauge by 1 point
quick verge
so do you not know how these jobs function
lusty oak
quaint marten
It does not. Smn's energy drain was changed. Sch kept the old energy drain since arr?
quaint marten
The same energy drain since arr. Se cant make up their damn mind.
lusty oak
Energy Drain
Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150.
Additional Effect: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP and restores MP
Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1
steady pebble
idk why really they gave smn back energy drain
hexed topaz
Im just all confused since i only loved ast for the cards and especially ewer mp regen
lusty oak
its 2 different drains now
SMN generates 2 stacks via ED
SCH spends 1 AF to get MP back
steady pebble
dont see why summoner would use ed over es
hexed topaz
Ive never really got adapted to each patch changes to healers it changed how i used to understand the job
Expansion*
steady pebble
oh, maybe i should read tooltips
quaint marten
Bane id also super funny for smn
Its obviously an aoe tool but its free and short cd
So you end up pressing it for 15% chance to refresh dots on single target anyway.
steady pebble
blissful willow
Out of curiousity, what are some HP thresholds my party should reach during E3S?
Like when we reach Refreshing, Tsunami 2, etc.
lyric summit
you need like 72k rdps
so just base it on that really, different LB timings can make him have different % at different mechanics
glad tapir
72k inc. down times from dives so in fact you need more then just 72k
lyric summit
yes as in "be at 72k+ basically constantly until enrage" 