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lyric summit
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but it's handy to know them all if you're pugging

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dps in/out, line strat, boss relative o11s, unreal/fennek/gtl hw2

knotty ravine
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Yup, all these abbreviations...

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Like NA fist. GWchadThink

scenic patrol
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Linestrat only disadvantage is that it requires a certain comp

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Otherwise it's both the easiest and most uptime efficient strat

quick verge
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nah

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it's very flexible

scenic patrol
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Ye, but you need to modify the strat to accommodate for those changes

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Which is beyond most groups

wraith spire
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So, good news guys, me and my FC and 1 pug cleared Seiryu finally

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Now we gotta farm

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Yay

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That pug is really good tho at blm

latent temple
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im leveling blm so I can be really good at trap parties
congratters on the clear tho

wraith spire
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Thanks

steep iris
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you don't really need to modify the strat unless you have 3+ melee or 2 phys ranged+2 melee

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for example if you have 2 ranged, 1 caster, 1 melee just have 1 ranged to melee side and they just get knocked to narnia

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and cases where you get the specific comps where it doesn't work is kinda rare tbh since everyone and their mother is a caster

scenic patrol
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triple melee, double ranged and even the mythical quad melee all need adjustment

dull radish
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yeah, that's what Frey said haha

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3+ melee or 2 phys ranged+2 melee

neat lance
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Im the rdm in Aura clear, I just want to say how badly we was carried by that blm

heavy mist
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Aura?

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oh seiryu

wraith spire
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Yeah in the clear I mentioned

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Seiryu yeah. We are aiming to farming now. Akane is my husband I mentioned. He's the one who runs ACT for us. (Pst someone didn't know what parse meant but then again they play on PS4, if that makes a difference. But I guess there are ppl out there who genuinely doesn't know. I'm not trying to make fun).

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Ohh I see those strats are o9s

wet stag
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@hybrid rapids lol im lding the viscous + homing anyway

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bc feather rain goes out there

hybrid rapids
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eat it

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won't kill a tank

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have MT don't move

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just eat the feather

wet stag
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idk our healers not comfortable with it

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so nvm

hybrid rapids
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let me check again

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been too long ago

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i think my MT always eating it

wet stag
hybrid rapids
vital cypress
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bad player status update: finally getting past hello world 1

hybrid rapids
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that's painful

vital cypress
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current mood

hybrid rapids
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do they stack?

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he seems eating twice?

wet stag
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yea if he gets targeted both times gg

hybrid rapids
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i not sure if it stack

wet stag
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it does

hybrid rapids
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but don't recall it was this painful

wet stag
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u get 2 stacks of windburn

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if you get hit twice

hybrid rapids
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ahhh

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could be that then

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he can dodging both too

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small movement

wet stag
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cant

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holmgang

hybrid rapids
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true

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i think my MT ate one

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i can't recall first or second tho

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anyway

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your group have DRK doing it?

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usually is LD CD too long

lyric summit
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after the landslides and tumults? we always have a tank solo it with invuln

hybrid rapids
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will it up on supression?

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ye

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he mean the feather rain

lyric summit
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save bene

hybrid rapids
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should tank dodge it

lyric summit
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the invuln tank? not really, it's not that much damage

hybrid rapids
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his war was getting 2 stack it seems

lyric summit
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but idk how you're getting 2 stacks there

hybrid rapids
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and that's painful

lyric summit
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1 tank with group, 2nd tank solo

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there's a tank swap so that one tank eats both busters

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with invuln

hybrid rapids
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i think we had WAR taking it with holmgang

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then PLD hallowed ground supression

lyric summit
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what's there to hallow on suppression

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the 2nd buster before skip?

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i guess that's pre suppression but close enough

hybrid rapids
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we wasn't doing mario kart

lyric summit
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yeah me neither

hybrid rapids
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PLD eating both

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garuda minions' hit

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WAR standby prepare for gaol

lyric summit
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we cooldown the 1st homing after annihilation, hold dps at 50% and burst during 2nd homing cast that's getting hallowed

lusty turret
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there is too many ways of doing uwu

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thats why its so hard to reclear

hybrid rapids
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ye

lyric summit
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anyways i'm preeeetty sure that war isn;t supposed to holmgang before the 1st feather rain, you dodge 1st and can eat 2nd with holm @wet stag

lusty turret
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we use hallowed during tummults before annihilation

hybrid rapids
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we didn't hold dps but constantly reaching 45%~46%

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πŸ˜‚

lusty turret
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^

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i assume its the same part we talking about right

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if you holm you need to dodge first feathers

hybrid rapids
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i see

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so eating 2nd?

lusty turret
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possibly

wet stag
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its fine

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im gonna ld there instead

lusty turret
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ye thats better

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from healer pov

hybrid rapids
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anyway, my strat was really old and dull

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that could have many improved and simplified

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which are easier to execute

lusty turret
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my first prog group was legit bannedwords, our pld insisted on hallowed ground after supression during orbs for the autos cause thats what entropy did

hybrid rapids
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it was kinda relaxing in full JP group

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since they never insist anything

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willing to discuss all possibilities

lusty turret
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ye that was really bad in mine, i never played with any of them again and hopefully wont

hybrid rapids
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lmao

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fastest kill is 14:06 now...

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wow...ucob 17:19...

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salute

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till this day, there're only 10 groups did it

lyric summit
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i used to be #10 ucob speedkill umaru

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probably down to 12 or 13 or lower now

hybrid rapids
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powerful

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my ucob kills were all suffering

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i have 10 kills they uploaded 8

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fastest 18:40...

lyric summit
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had a really fast golden today, dead when he barely started the enrage

hybrid rapids
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basically skipped last akh morn?

lyric summit
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but i dunno seems like nael skip and a good add phase is the most important factors in speed

hybrid rapids
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can you possibly skip the 5th now?

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i know a lot group skipping enrage akh morn

quick verge
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you can skip 5th morn afah yes

hybrid rapids
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but don't know if there's any skipped 5th

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powerful

lusty turret
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oh we down to #4 ucob speed umaru

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but my co heal and me still #3 healer combined dps umaru

hybrid rapids
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The combined healer dps I have shown

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Was solely on WHM + AST in ucob

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There are only 10 groups

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The worst is still top 10

lusty turret
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i know

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must be some real

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close friends or smth to go whm+ast

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there are like 30 of those for uwu i think

scenic patrol
heavy mist
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wtf

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that works

simple sky
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damn

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just fucking went for it

quick verge
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all 800 hours of

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drg gameplay

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led to this

stable basin
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Are the highest ilvl weapons and gear only attainable through raiding?

sonic olive
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Mostly yeah, but at the end of an expansion you can get the relic weapon in its last stage

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and its better then the raid one

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And luck for you its the end of this one

stable basin
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relic weapons? but they will still need a currency to be traded right?

lyric summit
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tome gear and raid gear come out in the same patch, raid gear is the same ilvl as upgraded tome gear, but you can't get the upgrades without savage raiding till the next patch

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when upgrades are added to casual 24mans

steady pebble
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basically savage raiders get highest ilvl first

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with casual players catching up at the end of the tier

lyric summit
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but at the same time, if you don't raid then there's no actual need to get highest ilvl gear

pastel cobalt
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Relics are special weapons with variable stats that are acquired through long quest chains, and lots of materials. I'm not 100% sure how the current tier's relic works, but you need to go through a side-mode called Eureka to get it powered up all the way. You don't need to raid to get it, but it's still a lot of work to get

stable basin
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Ohhh okay. Was asking as the FAQ on reddit didn't mention stuff like that

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or I may have misread

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Normally, how many months would it take to complete the eurekan weapons?

torn kindle
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I'd say a month or so depending on how much a day you can grind

wraith spire
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So that Seiryu group of mine....clear yesterday, no clear today. i had to go cuz im not feeling well. hubby stayed and they still no clear.

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🀷

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it's tank swap problems or tank not turning it around in time. or a death. or a person going to the wrong letter for serpent ascending. stuff like that

simple sky
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oof

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I have all but cleared O10S GWqlabsNotLikeNoot

wraith spire
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that's great πŸ‘

simple sky
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it is also suffering haha

wraith spire
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do your best. i hope you clear

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aw lol

simple sky
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same thanks

wraith spire
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what do u main?

simple sky
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SMN

wraith spire
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ah

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πŸ‘

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i main a healer and ive noticed it's a bit more frustrating on that role but it's what im sort of good at. i don't have confidence in me going as dps. i probably suck. although earlier i was reading samuari guides for some reason.

quick verge
dull radish
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powerful

gaunt python
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is that a sch at the bottom

dull radish
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yeah, that's SCH purple

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marginally better than BLM purple on fflogs, but both are lovely colors

pastel cobalt
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Purple gud

dull radish
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big fan of purples and pinks <3

simple sky
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i like greens and purples but not together

torn kindle
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ow that hurts my eyes

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nvm deleting it

steep iris
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echo is too powerful

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damn

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yo if i had like contagion and better cards that might fill the 250 dps i needed

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unfortunately there was like

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1 aoe balance, 2 aoe spears

simple sky
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F

steep iris
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and i didn't get tether

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i should've gotten every tether except for opener tether

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damn

dull radish
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10k is np, gotta hit 11k with echo logs now~

steep iris
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LOL

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wish i could get close

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also i don't even know wtf i'm doing wrong on smn

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tried a run as smn and only did 8.1k

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opener radiant shield, contagion, and devotion hell ain't worth 1.6k

dull radish
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yeah I dunno SMN haha

simple sky
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O9S is especially favorable for BLM

dull radish
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they have a ton of big brain optimizations for little improvements

simple sky
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so much standing around doing nothing

steep iris
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i def missed like

dull radish
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that all add up to a good bit

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while BLM is just

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lol F4 more

steep iris
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contagion for my dwt tri-d a couple times

dull radish
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maybe I'll do echo logs at some point

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I mostly can't be bothered since my static isn't doing it, and I haven't really felt like doing much pugging this tier

simple sky
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i mess up so many small optimizations for SMN πŸ˜”
Mostly cuz bad

steep iris
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i think it's fun just to pug 9s

simple sky
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yeah I need to finish healer right side too

steep iris
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relatively chill fight

simple sky
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until someone falls asleep in blaze

dull radish
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9s is pretty fine to pug haha

steep iris
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compared to like 10s

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that's why i've just been joining random pfs for it

simple sky
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10S is dumb

dull radish
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I did some on my alt, and a bit in 10

simple sky
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delet 10S

dull radish
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but most of 10 I did was just filling in for a static

steep iris
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even though i don't need any stuff from 9s

dull radish
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which was pretty big memes but still cleared

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I could stand to pick up stuff for some other random jobs and I think still some healer stuff

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but it's mostly whatever haha

vital cypress
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i honest-to-god like this game way more now that I'm not having to run O10S every week

steep iris
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lol

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same

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but i haven't done weeklies since 10 years ago

vital cypress
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though i do need to talk my group into running O11S at least one more time so I can upgrade my book

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i'm the last idiot on earth who's still using the i390 SCH tome

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SpS+Pie, absolutely disgusting

boreal edge
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almost orange at final

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ugh

vital cypress
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nice parse on the BLM

boreal edge
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maybe if i wait 1 week

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til last 2 weeks deadline

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it will become orange?

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with more bad parses?

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yup

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it dropped

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it will be orange in few days

quick verge
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pugging 12s is also fun

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now that short stack has a negative chance of dying

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and respecting numbers is more of a suggestion

remote bluff
latent temple
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πŸ‡«

pastel cobalt
gaunt python
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πŸ‡«

quick verge
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wow we got rank #7 speed for ucob

vital cypress
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good job toot

solemn crow
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Do people use lightspeed for panto 2 smn run or do I have to save it for the big lasers

steep iris
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i use lightspeed for the panto 2 run

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If your tanks aren't dumb panto 2 tank cleaves should be no sweat

solemn crow
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fatcat thank you!

delicate cipher
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How are the controls on ps4 in the late game. Are you able to play it fluently or are you handicapped ?

hybrid rapids
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depending on job and practicing

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but all jobs are doable on high level

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i know several top-tier world progression controller players

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majority were JP players but there are handful of good NA/EU players too

lyric summit
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yeah like 2 or 3 people in my raid group play on controller, it's not a handicap at all

silk sky
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Mouse and Keyboard is objectively better in every way, but controller isn't unusable

lyric summit
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meh, just depends on what you're used to

glossy musk
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This game is slow enough that there’s not any difference really

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Two of the members in our world first group were controller users

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Especially with the extended hotbars making it so you never have to switch around

silk sky
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Access to any skill on a dime is important for MMOs, Keyboard is superior in that respect

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Binding, Macros, etc

glossy musk
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Controller has that as well

delicate cipher
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I think it is about pratice and preference

silk sky
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Controller doesn't have nearly as many buttons though

glossy musk
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Extended hotbars removed all switching from controllers so they have full access to 32 +8 without any switching

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If you need more than that idk

heavy mist
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Yeah that's honestly enough with them pruning skills nowadays

glossy musk
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I can’t think of a job that needs more than that. Maaaaaaybe SCH? I’d have to check

steep iris
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i know a couple of controller sch players

glossy musk
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For all pet abilities

steep iris
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hell, my sch in my speed group used a controller

abstract mantle
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you can play on kb and mouse on playstation too

glossy musk
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But literally every other job can have their full kit on there

heavy mist
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Sch is pretty loaded but it should be fine

lyric summit
barren tapir
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what gear i need when go ucob uwu?

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only weapon will be fine?

median sage
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Balance should have BiS for most classes for the ultimates

lusty turret
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the most important thing is for the right side of your gear (accessories) to be 340/345 or 370/375 for ucob/uwu so you can meld vitality.
as long as you dont play healer, the balance will have the bis sheets as mentioned above

stable basin
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yeah early phases aren't too bad but proper bis for ultimates at some point before you're going for the clear is a must

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Haven't seen golden bahamut myself but ultima weapon's dps check is pretty tight and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

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People be like we assembled a meta comp with eight people who are well above the typical savage clearer, geared up with better armor and food than the fight was tuned for, all planning and aligning buffs together, and we were able to afford one or maybe even two deaths... dps check ezpz

lusty turret
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in some case its even better to down sync some gear instead of getting their lower ilvl counter parts

stable basin
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!maint

storm frostBOT
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Tick, Tock!
Time Until Maintenance Ends:

0 Days, 3 Hours, 26 Minutes, 2 Seconds

boreal edge
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just dont die

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i seen 6% enrage with 2 deaths

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we could not see it

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if those 2 didnt die

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and got clear

glad tapir
hasty nebula
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lol

glad tapir
quasi totem
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I sadly can't test it atm or will be able to move to test so I just hope someone can answer: how bad does 200 ping affect healing/dps in endcontent?

hybrid rapids
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Pretty much you have to get used to it and could be tough on ultimates but totally doable in savage

glad tapir
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its dosent effect on healing, it may effect on NIN murda

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yeah if you get used to its should be a problem unless you play NIN

quasi totem
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thats relieving to hear :x currently thinking about moving back to NA servers with the free transfers

hybrid rapids
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Maybe try VPN

quasi totem
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last time I played on NA was when the servers were still in canada

hybrid rapids
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If it makes you better

quasi totem
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any vpn recommendations?

hybrid rapids
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Trial for free to see if it works

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Like WTFast and pingzapper

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Then switch to mud fish for cheap VPN xD

quasi totem
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lmao

hybrid rapids
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I’m paying like $3 dollar per 1 and a half year or two

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For mudfish

quasi totem
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damn

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I know wtfast etc are at like 10€ per month roughly

glad tapir
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mudfish has really low cost but i would its like 10€ for 3 years xD

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but VPN has always higher ping for me then without

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no VPN ~28 ping, with VPN +45 ping always on every VPN i try,

quasi totem
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gonna try out wtfast when maint is over :x

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...server are online on launcher?

craggy herald
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did someone clear alphascape v4 savage second phase?

glad tapir
thorn bear
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ya

glad tapir
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i am sure a lot of ppl here clear alphascape

quasi totem
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without wtfast 180-210
with 170-150
actually not that bad

glad tapir
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try vpn express and mudfish they are cheaper

quasi totem
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yeah will do, just tried wtfast for free so I can try one before paying :x

glad tapir
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also i would recommend to try it at rush hours like evenings and also check packet loss not only ping matters

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you can use pingPlotter like let it run for 10 min and compare the results

hybrid rapids
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ye, try it during prime time

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stability is more important than low ping

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packet loss might kill you

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high ping won't if you get used to it

glad tapir
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exactly high ping just makes you sligly slow but packet loss will give you lag spikes which let your screen frezze for few secs what is deadly

delicate cipher
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Which eu server is more populated Chaos or Light

azure hill
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It's impossible to tell right now

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People are transferring all over the place

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Give it a couple of days to settle down

leaden lava
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I mean its a dumb decision

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that they split them at all

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made sense for US not for EU

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like, at all

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cant wait for pf to have like 6 parties in

cursive spear
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Then it give you the 90k2 boot

lyric summit
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JP is still growing, why's there no plans to split mana

cursive spear
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There probably are, but not until they get megabig like aether or primal

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If it doesn’t happen then riot

lyric summit
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just riot now, no need to wait yoshisrsly

cursive spear
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soulsurrender no soulsurrender mana soulsurrender split soulsurrender time soulsurrender to soulsurrender riot

fossil basalt
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because all three datacenters for jp are still smaller than aether and primal were at their peak, and probably will be for some time

leaden lava
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if that's the amount of active players

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then what the fuck are they doing

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does 'active' just mean 'forgot to cancel my sub but havent actually logged in for 10 years?' lol

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cos like, pf has absolutely no one in it

lyric summit
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active means people whose lodestone changed in the last couple days before the census, or have the latest minion/title/achievement from msq

cursive spear
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It’s more than likely decreased since then, it tends to after x.5 stuff

prisma patio
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Forgive a potentially obvious question but I'm new to anything meta related (despite playing the game for years now...) But I've heard it mention that for raids and such, the PLD is most effective as an off-tank? That's someone taking the mick, right?

azure hill
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There's a bit more nuance to it, but one of the big ones is that Paladin stance changes are on the GCD

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!action unchained

storm frostBOT
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**Unchained** : lvl 40 WAR (90.0 second cooldown)

Nullifies the damage penalty inflicted by Defiance.
Duration: 20s
Can only be executed while under the effect of Defiance. Effect is canceled if Defiance ends.

azure hill
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And Warrior has this

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Meaning they can pull without taking any significant dps hit, while paladin loses gcds + the damage penalty from Shield Oath

jolly sluice
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also cover, love that cover

prisma patio
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Ah I see. That does make sense

lusty turret
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PLD has a lot more utility to support the party or the person who is tanking right now (hence better for off tank) like cover as mentioned above or intervention. wings and veil are good for party support as well

steep iris
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intervention is so good

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in golden

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40% intervention pog

spring dock
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I can never get rampart and intervention in on time together

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πŸ˜”

quick verge
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there's few mechanics where you're going to burn 100 gauge to minimize the amount of fuck you're in

bitter topaz
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helllo folks

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i got a serious problem and i cant seem to get pass this and it making me very mad fury as it can be

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the quest is one life for one world

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and im a lancer and it seems to failed i done this like 10 x or more

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and it seems i cant get where to keep them from getting over powered and it seems the mechanics got worse for me plz help and im about to quit this game

dull radish
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I hope you mean Dragoon and not Lancer, to begin with haha

bitter topaz
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the problem is the second phast

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yes im a dragon

dull radish
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Alright just making sure

bitter topaz
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i even use the pots to boost it but it did not do a freaking thing

dull radish
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For the second part you gotta interact with alisaie when you can, focus on enemies attacking her and then attacking you, otherwise don't worry too much about attacking other folks

bitter topaz
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i use like hit and crits and all that but that does not seemt o work in t his place

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yeah i did but i cant see that thing like you do the attune

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it will not do it right a way

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every time i go to her there is not interaction at all

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and even if i did get it to her a few time but i cant seems to finish this off

dull radish
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It's like right in front of her, "blade of light" or whatever

bitter topaz
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this quest is made to hate dragoons

dull radish
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Can try watching a video on YouTube or whatever if it'll help

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Nah it's fine

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How's your gear, anyways?

bitter topaz
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i did and i did the order

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but its good

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the gear is a shy bit of a 100%

dull radish
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Not condition

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Item level

bitter topaz
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and i have like all blues that i got from idyleshire and it is blue and im 243

pastel cobalt
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When I did this quest, her sword didn't show up for me

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And I struggled with it for a while

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Until I found out I needed to click the empty space in front of her

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It was very dumb

bitter topaz
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oh that is the hard part

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i kept pressing any buttons to get to interact with her and btw im on a ps4 if that is what it is making it harder maybe

pastel cobalt
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I'm not sure how ps4 targets, but you're looking to interact with a thing 2-3 feet in front of Alisaie

steady pebble
bitter topaz
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ok after i get her to interact even those those mobs keep respawing and i cant seem to get how to keep them from gaining the red bar

steady pebble
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They're enemies are going to keep respawning, that's part of the fight

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the important part is to get alisaie's blade fully empowered

bitter topaz
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yeah i saw that but still the failed

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some something i have to do after her from being interacted ?

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so i got to interact with her again ???

dull radish
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What weapon do you have? i243 isn't too bad but if you have all shire gear (i260, upgradeable to 270) you might have neglected weapon to bring the average down, and that would help killing things better

bitter topaz
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shire halberd

dull radish
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Ok cool

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Just making sure there wasn't an easy answer to help haha

bitter topaz
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well im think my char is good but its the damn freaking mechanic is not working here

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i dont know if this was something that made it hard for every one of the devs overpowered this

#

this is my main quest and it should not be impossible

#

im cursing at devs cause i blame them

steady pebble
#

Its not impossible tho :\

bitter topaz
#

well next to impossible

#

if i cant get this and this game will be erased

#

i know one thing this game has too damn many mechanics and it is hard to keep track of all the function and that should not been to hard for any one

#

why far too many variations and quests

gaunt python
#

They use more mechanics at end game content

bitter topaz
#

i done like 1000 quests for 50 and same goes for 60 and it it never ends

gaunt python
#

Imo I feel like there was too much hand holding in early levels

bitter topaz
#

ok after interacting with her so i got to keep giving her the blade again and again ?

steady pebble
#

yes

#

you keep interacting with the blade of light

bitter topaz
#

but why i cant seems to work with her

#

i have her on target

steady pebble
#

you can't constantly interact with it, the npcs tell you when you need to give aether

bitter topaz
#

ok so what i do if i get one interaction so i need to fight a bit more or stay with her till done ?

#

it does not say give aether but it says hurry up and give me the something

#

and im on her

steady pebble
#

take a screenshot, please?

bitter topaz
#

ok

#

be while

#

this is a solo quest and no one can help ?

steady pebble
#

its a solo duty, yes

bitter topaz
#

nothing is happening

#

something is wrong

#

i keep triying differnt spots with her

dull radish
#

Interact with the blade of light, not her

bitter topaz
#

now i see gee

#

that is confusing wtf

#

pardon my expresion

#

thx yall

#

geeeee

#

i passed it

dull radish
#

Congrats

hybrid rapids
#

grats

bitter topaz
#

why this is so hard gee

#

thx

hybrid rapids
#

basically it's more on in-game mechanics and gameplay wise, but it take some time get used to it

#

and you're good

bitter topaz
#

i seen the video but did not specify and since i dont hear well idnr if they have CC = closed caption

hybrid rapids
#

np, feel free to seek for help or advices πŸ‘Œ

snow girder
#

any good resources to learning alphascape savage.

#

I've only cleared o9s

steep iris
#

the text guides are p good

#

just google o10s/o11s/o12s text guide and a reddit post should pop up for it

scenic patrol
#

That would be Fennek guides

#

I think

#

They are decent except for Hello World

fringe granite
#

So Final Omega is another debuff festival?

glossy musk
#

Yes but it’s all about debuffing each other

#

Which is fun

#

You have to make sure you pass certain debuffs to not die to other debuffs and then make sure only 3 people can be affected by the final debuff or it’ll take up the whole zone

fringe granite
#

I've gotten close with a few friends to killing Neo Exdeath

#

That's fun

glossy musk
#

Yeah it’s like that but better

sick tinsel
#

@snow girder i used this personally

steep iris
#

unreal slides don't really use the general pug strat for last set of defamations

#

which is short stack D, tank A, long stack B

errant kayak
#

Why did they originally do tank D mooglethink

steep iris
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

world prog is weird

#

you could ask that about the people who made the fennek strat or the vertical line o11s small fists

wet stag
#

vertical small fists lmao what

steep iris
#

yep

wet stag
#

nice

steep iris
#

also when prepositioning for n/s in level checker didn't exist

wet stag
#

yeah i heard about diagonal lc

steep iris
#

it wasn't diagonal iirc

#

it was vertical

#

instead of baiters on e/w

wet stag
#

vertical? pepothink

steep iris
#

i don't actually remember that well

#

so i'm prob remembering it incorrectly

wet stag
#

i thought it was like ene/wsw

#

and how can anyone forget everyone's favourite

#

dps in

steep iris
#

people still do dps in

wet stag
#

yea

scenic patrol
#

Dps in is such a bad strat holy shit

simple sky
#

yeah it is

#

imagine not doing line strat in the year of our lord 2019

cold ember
#

Ive never gotten a chance to do line strat cos im always in japanese pug grps 😿

glad tapir
elder lark
#

I’ve mostly only done O9S with my FC and we always did line strat so then I got stuck in a PF group that wanted to do DPS in so I had to google it real quick

pastel cobalt
glossy musk
#

Wait do JP not do line strat

#

Wtf so they do

lyric summit
#

they don't care about uptime and optimization anywhere as much as NA/EU do

#

whatever works and gets them the clear is basically used the whole tier

#

that's why you have such memes as vertical line colored fists or the legendary jp forsaken 2

jolly sluice
#

is it bad I agree with them?

lyric summit
#

no, as long as you're in a group with similar mentality

hybrid pumice
#

Im afraid to ask

What was the legendary jp forsaken 2 strat

dull radish
#

Melees break away from boss and run up the sides of the arena like the ranged, or something like that

lyric summit
dull radish
#

Yeah that's a good clip for it haha

hybrid pumice
#

Holy fuck

hybrid pumice
#

That guy narrating the jp strat had me dying lmao

lyric summit
#

big arthars fan

hybrid pumice
#

Interesting strat, imagine doing that as a mnk or drg

#

Whats vertical line fists

lyric summit
hybrid pumice
#

God why

thorn bear
#

JP does whatever works but they don't change it up or so I hear

hybrid pumice
#

As long as it gets you the clear i guess

thorn bear
#

JP Fireball strat during hot tail where you run to the corner to place horrid roars

hybrid pumice
#

It all seems like more work for the same result

junior basin
#

Yeah, they stick to the first one they figure out works.

#

Which makes sense since they pug alot.

lusty turret
#

hey we did that fireball stuff in prog as well πŸ˜„

junior basin
#

Easier to go with the strat the pugs know than teaching litterally everyone another when most just care about getting their kill.

thorn bear
#

yeah I did the dumb fireball strat to cause it worked and got us thru hot tail lol

#

but now we do 313 and my melee can actually hit the boss

hybrid pumice
#

That forsaken strat has me fucking dying

half pivot
#

lol this reminds me of the multiple tsukuyomi ex strats in NA and for a while everyone would keep arguing which one is the best. I'm all like just pick one and stick with it

hybrid pumice
#

God

#

The mr happy strat

#

When everyone was doing that

lyric summit
#

yeah cause happy and mizzteq pooped out 2 different strats at the same time

hybrid pumice
#

Literally wanted to pull my hair out

errant kayak
#

That small fists strat

#

I still see it some times

lusty turret
#

we sacced our PLD every time on hottail cause we didnt figure out the shield thing valle

lyric summit
#

yeah i've seen it when subbing for some 7/8s for weeklies

#

like twice

lusty turret
#

it came up once, but i think the person trying got hit making the shield weaker

#

so we just concluded it wouldnt work

thorn bear
#

Feeling sorry for everyone that progged m/f and did line strat for numbers

hybrid pumice
#

Oh god

thorn bear
#

there's a disgrace of a strategy

hybrid pumice
#

The mizzteq video

#

I wanted to shoot myself

#

When that was in prog

steep iris
#

jp strats ew

hybrid pumice
#

Literally someone was always getting cleaved by suppression during numbers

lusty turret
#

we did cross for numbers

glad tapir
lusty turret
#

was so easy 😩

thorn bear
#

I subbed for a group for a few days when they were doing HW prog, and when I convinced them to do box instead of line

steep iris
#

jp safety strats are ew when people are STILL hitting 9s enrage in pugs with echo

thorn bear
#

we never wiped to numbers again

hybrid pumice
#

Thats not a strat problem

#

Thats a β€œNA players are bad” problem

#

You dont pay my sub

steep iris
#

i mean you can't magically make a player better within a minute

hybrid pumice
#

Yes you can

steep iris
#

lol

#

trust me, i've tried talking some sense into countless pugs

hybrid pumice
#

Read the first paragraph of a guide, instantly better than your average na/eu pugger

steep iris
#

they never actually listen

hybrid pumice
#

I feel you

steep iris
#

I gave this blm advice in a savage pug discord cause he was complaining about being on enrage

#

gave him literally ALL the resources he needed to improve

#

and he still does worse than me despite him being a blm main

hybrid pumice
#

Speaking of blm

steep iris
thorn bear
#

was that the dude who got his "first savage clear" and uploaded it to youtube

steep iris
#

no

thorn bear
#

and he did like insane low dps

lyric summit
#

i heard that blm found his way to the balance and improved with time

steep iris
#

this is another guy

#

in primal

hybrid pumice
#

Dude that blm o9s upload

half pivot
#

a happy ending?!

hybrid pumice
#

Holy shit had me in tears

#

He uploaded it to youtube

#

Literally one fire 4 before switching to ice

quick verge
#

is this echo frey

steep iris
#

pre echo

#

he's not much better post echo

#

his best final log: 1 convert, 2 sharpcast

topaz wolf
#

to be fair convert fucking sucks as a dps cooldown

#

even if you dont use it outside of the opener is barely makes any difference

steep iris
#

/shrug

hybrid pumice
steep iris
#

i got mad at this dude for complaining about being on enrage in pf

#

while not pulling his weight

hybrid pumice
#

Sounds like almost every clear party lol

steep iris
#

but yea

#

i've tried helping several other people

latent temple
#

"Clear for one and maybe farm after"

steep iris
#

advice goes in an ear and then out the other

tawdry matrix
#

Like me

steep iris
#

lol

glossy musk
#

Sounds like most PUGs

#

HW2 prog = wipe to numbers

thorn bear
#

When I progged o8s in pugs I said alot that forsaken 2 prog = clown enrage

#

forsaken 1 = clown prog

glossy musk
#

Yep

#

That’s why I check logs now when people join. It sucks but just gotta do it.

simple sky
#

Imagine people actually being truthful when joining parties

glass trellis
#

What is the deal on snakes EX with the tank who pulls boss, why does he provoke after the first cursebreaker?

#

Is it not better to just swap it on the next cursebreaker?

pastel cobalt
#

If the tank with the debuff takes damage, everyone dies. So one tank takes the debuff, then the other tank provokes to eat the followup tankbuster. He starts doing it twice in a row at some point as well

glass trellis
#

Yes

#

In P1 boss use it after the first tailswipe

#

Then I provoke and tank the blue ball

#

Why does the other tank pull the boss back?

#

Why not just let me hold it untill the next curse?

glossy musk
#

No idea, I usually don’t

#

Although it’s good for a threat lead

half pivot
#

the reason is the simply "he wants the boss back". There can be reason for this. He wants uptime on the boss during meteors. He doesn't trust the other tank. Anything you can think of basically

simple sky
#

Never trust

#

Tbh tho

#

I'd give it a wipe before no trust

heavy mist
#

In clear party never trust

#

Farm party trust is ok

simple sky
#

farm party is enrage prog

quick verge
#

the only way to play this game is to have quality memes when everyone's cleared

glossy musk
#

I'd rather not tank the boss cause that way I can just stand in all the AOEs and take the vuln stacks

#

they don't matter if I don't get hit

#

much more uptime

pastel cobalt
#

Panto 1 prog: level checker prog
"I've seen enrage": level checker prog
Farm party: level checker prog

errant kayak
#

Hw2 = numbers prog hits too close to home

quick verge
#

the best part of o12s is that the clear is basically guaranteed after HW1

simple sky
glossy musk
#

lmao

quick verge
#

hell yeah

simple sky
#

blazing aritama but casts HW twice in a row

errant kayak
#

FTFY after hw2

#

I can’t count the amount of times the tank with rot forgets to step aside after spreading it killing the entire team

#

But yeah it’s just repeat of mechanics after that

#

The dps check isn’t that tight tbh

high ether
#

there's no rot in seiryu

errant kayak
#

Was talking bout 12s

#

Dear god hope there’s no rot in seiryu

high ether
#

there's not

#

however there is infirm soul

errant kayak
#

ik im joking

#

Cursekeeper was lovely when the fight first came out

#

Still is.

latent temple
#

"Lemme cover you" every pld ever

tawdry matrix
#

Lewd

glad tapir
#

best part were about when the off tank who voke on Cursekeeper were run away on the other edge of the arena soulsurrender

lyric summit
#

or they cleave half the party cause they run around like headless chickens

steep iris
#

when you jinx yourself

hybrid rapids
#

you didn't drop eno chan

#

but i didn't see that one coming too

#

your camera....

simple sky
#

what are the odds

glass trellis
#

What secondary stats to get for DRG?

simple sky
#

crit > det > dh

manic thorn
#

isnt it Crit>DH>det?

quick verge
#

yes

scenic patrol
lusty turret
#

i am a simple person, i see an arthars clip i watch

glossy musk
#

last horse has crossed the finish line

wet stag
#

Grats blobwizard

glossy musk
#

Thanks!

#

also arthars related

vital cypress
#

does anyone know the DPS requirement for final omega offhand?

blazing pelican
#

42.5k or so

#

@vital cypress

vital cypress
#

thank you!

#

my new-new-new-new-new-new-new-new-group is getting close on prog I think

blazing pelican
#

DPS doing 7k, tanks doing 5k, and healers doing 2k will put you at 42k, just fyi

#

you can sneak in melee LB3 when available. if you're having trouble with the check I recommend not holding it for healer LB3

scenic patrol
#

That's really low dps for post echo

vital cypress
#

i mean

#

we made it to HW2 clean for the first time tonight

#

because at least one of our healers is a dumb idiot baby

scenic patrol
#

I mean more towards what Yen said

#

5K on tanks in post echo is low

blazing pelican
#

2k on healers is also super low

#

but I have low expectations from pugs

glossy musk
#

Yeah we ended up using healer lb3 and we were real sloppy but still got it quite a bit before enrage

#

You’ll get it as long as you can do the mechanics

stable basin
#

Finally got the legendary kill before second archive all post-echo

boreal edge
#

@glossy musk i cant believe leo didnt clear o12s week 1

#

gz

hybrid rapids
#

I think mine was week 5 or 6

#

Forgot

#

Lmao

#

Free carry is best

glossy musk
#

I will next tier

#

This tier I'm with babby group

#

but they're fun people at least

#

next tier I'm not with a world first group but with a HARDUCORE one so

#

hopefully like top 10

fossil basalt
#

I never cleared

#

beat that

glossy musk
#

o12s is literally just team jumprope. It's all easy but if someone fucks up everyone dies

#

So it's relying on 7 other people, 1 of which had a migraine and the other had no sleep for the last day and a half

#

It's a wonder we cleared

glass trellis
#

Spell speed good for WHM?

lyric summit
#

no

hybrid rapids
#

you don't meld spell speed materia

#

it's not a bad stat to have

#

but priority on enough pie then crit and det

wet stag
#

cleaning up annihilation poggers

#

should be able to start suppression prog by monday poggers

hybrid rapids
#

all the best

lyric summit
#

just get tsun to carry you

gaunt python
#

tsun is a fat potato tho

lyric summit
#

but got like 50 uwu kills

gaunt python
#

can't argue with that tbh

hybrid rapids
#

i don't think i have that much....

#

only 19

steep iris
#

only

hybrid rapids
#

vis is catching up

lyric summit
#

close enough

hybrid rapids
#

and vis has more ucob than me already

lyric summit
#

I don't care much for uwu cause gotta flex the ucob

hybrid rapids
#

powerful within 1 month

#

2 more kills?

lyric summit
#

!whoami

hybrid rapids
#

for all jobs + 2 new jobs

storm frostBOT
lyric summit
#

ye

hybrid rapids
#

powerful name...

lyric summit
#

transferred and my name was taken ree

hybrid rapids
#

not sure what next title will be

lyric summit
#

I have 14 weapons and 3 totems, idk if I want to buy ast whm or mnk

hybrid rapids
#

if it's legend again, you gotta be triple legend lmao

#

i don't think any is good enough

lyric summit
#

timeless legend

hybrid rapids
#

but for flexing any is fine

#

personal favourite is SAM and DRK

lyric summit
#

rdm is really good

#

but already got it soulsurrender

#

uwu whm is really good, and I rarely play monk

hybrid rapids
#

and it taking too much inventory space....

lyric summit
#

but ucob ast is ugly

#

ikr it takes up half a retainer

hybrid rapids
#

imagine 15 ucob 15 uwu

#

i have 10 ucob kills, but exchanged 6 then stopped myself

#

since i don't play most jobs

lyric summit
#

valid

hybrid rapids
#

unless it's ilvl 405...

#

sadly it's nothing but glamour use

lyric summit
#

can't use any other weapon glams than ultimate weapons 😩

#

the legendary burden

hybrid rapids
#

must flex enough before patch 5.x

#

to compensate time invested in

#

it must be good having legends title in EU or NA

quick verge
#

level jobs to flex

hybrid rapids
#

i can't flex here since there're too many legends here

#

they are like cockroaches

lyric summit
#

it's big clout on zodiark where I was when I cleared

#

moved to cerb and Limsa is crawling with ucob weapons

hybrid rapids
#

i thought odin and ragnarok has more raiders?

#

cerb a lot legends too?

lyric summit
#

I think half the Odin raiders moved to cerb

#

idk about rag, never been

hybrid rapids
#

ahh

#

understandable

lyric summit
#

phoenix raiders too

glossy musk
#

We got like none on Excalibur

#

A few groups

#

Finale, Encore and not sure if anything else that isn’t cross server

heavy mist
#

People flex the titles but then you realize that maybe this one bought it....

lyric summit
#

just check their logs, sellers generally don't upload logs

#

and even if they have logs, you can see all the encounters most of the time, and if it's like 6 kills with most being the same group but one or two people always different then that's already suspicious

#

doesn't work in jp I guess cause like half of them logs and half doesn't

#

but na and eu, people always make sure to upload their ultimate kills

steep iris
#

ucob ast is ugly

#

:(

quick verge
#

ast weapons are ugly in general

steep iris
#

you're ugly biscuit

#

the uwu one is great

quick verge
#

me too thanks

lyric summit
#

the texture on uwu one is kinda yikes

#

should've been deneb ultima

#

and the 2nd step of mch

#

armageddon

#

that one

quick verge
#

i got the ucob katana so i could afk and flex on an inferior job

lyric summit
#

sam idle pose is pretty meh to afk with 😩

#

but weapon is fire

quick verge
#

the weapon is so good i bought it before i got my sam to 70

latent temple
#

one day ill be good enough to get Ultimate Weapons soulsurrender

quick verge
#

don't need to be good to get them

#

there are some really shit players

latent temple
#

Dont underestimate my ability to be bad

lyric summit
#

if you can clear savage, you can easily clear ultimate with enough time

#

and if you can't clear savage, just practice, and you can yoshisrsly

quick verge
#

half of ultimate is having some shitter do callouts for mechanics so you can afk in your brain until the big boy mechanics

lyric summit
#

yeah like uhh just suppression

quick verge
#

like landslides

lyric summit
#

in ucob it's like fire baits, all of nael, quickmarch, heavensfall and tenstrike

quick verge
#

heavensfall is good fun

lyric summit
#

and hatches I guess, and add phase hatches

quick verge
#

i feel intellectually superior to my party because i can count to 4

lyric summit
#

heavensfall was actually one of the smoothest trios in all my reclears

#

quickmarch and blackfire are more shaky

quick verge
#

blackfire aka

#

spinning camera to find nael

lyric summit
#

people go the wrong way or don't remember where to put the dps earthshakers cause of 50 different strats

latent temple
#

||Im still trying to clear 010s||
||Everyone fucks up bulwark. Myself included||

quick verge
#

my favorite mechanic in ucob is probably

#

any quote with chariot

#

crit autos

lyric summit
#

just shield lob

quick verge
#

and uh

#

exaflares

lyric summit
#

my favorite mechanic is listening to healer screams after I use apoc late and it doesn't cover the first hit of akh morn

quick verge
#

that's my favorite mechanic too

#

"51k initial akh morn hit"

glossy musk
#

Bulwark we just have the OT always do it

#

So it’s always one person

#

Don’t have to worry about someone getting it and panicking

hybrid rapids
#

atlclemency.atratlplease use it.atr

glossy musk
#

Make it instant cast and I might

quick verge
#

requiescat window during akh morn

#

😏

#

fuck yeah dude

glossy musk
#

I loved hand of light in WoW. Shit was powerful as hell with its short CD and instant cast

#

Always worth using

quick verge
#

another mechanic that i like in ucob

#

add phase

#

very cool arena

#

actually can't see anything

lyric summit
#

just move the bosses like in the arthars clip

#

arthars exposed actually πŸ€”

quick verge
#

we moved them sw anyway

lyric summit
#

it's not the same if you move the bosses and neuros cause you get rid of the bahamut shaped tank blindfold

quick verge
#

there's also uh

#

twisters and neurolinks on that

#

red or orange ground

lyric summit
#

put your glasses on

quick verge
#

i don't have glasses wtf

lyric summit
#

well that explains why you can't see twisters

quick verge
#

i always see the twisters

#

but having to use my eyes to look at where they are

#

annoys me

steep iris
#

grand octet was most shaky for me

#

oh yeah

#

what are the trios named after

#

were they mechs in the original coil

lyric summit
#

I don't think so

#

quickmarch cause they march quickly through the middle

#

blackfire cause nael does a thermo and its fire and you're like fried and charred black

#

fellruin cause they fall and ruin you

#

and so on

#

just logical

steep iris
#

wat about tenstrike

#

πŸ€”

lyric summit
#

it's after the 10th strike of flare breath

#

or before

#

something like that

steep iris
#

is it actualyl

#

damn

lyric summit
#

I think so

quick verge
#

after

#

1st before quickmarch
2nd before black fire
3 4 5 post black fire
6 7 after fellruin
8 9 10 after heavensfall

#

11th is after 10strike

#

octet is actually in reference to your party making a grand mistake and fucking up megaflare towers/twisters at the end

lyric summit
#

actually grand octet checks for 8 bards using perform during the cast and if you succeed then add phase starts

hybrid rapids
#

it would be fun if they make ATM harder

quick verge
#

idk ATMs are pretty hard

#

you ever punch one

lyric summit
#

ultimate duty actions when

hybrid rapids
#

add ultimates to mentor roulette

steep iris
#

this menu is so fuckin annoying

#

the buttons are so tiny

#

and when you press return

#

you gotta do it all over again

hybrid rapids
#

lmao

#

they tried old school style

manic thorn
#

The game is preventing you from falling asleep

fathom matrix
lyric summit
#

marketboard

#

it's a crafted item, so either craft it or buy it crafted

lyric dawn
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Anyone here on Zodiark could tell me how is the PF looking overall?

ocean forge
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question about Tsukuyomi EX: what's the typical pug ABCD assignment and placement?

quick verge
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a north d south

lyric summit
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tanks A / north, healers B or C / east west, dps D / south

ocean forge
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same goes for the Nightfall split?

lyric summit
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which one is that one

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meteors? ye

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just make sure the tank and dps ones are in the smaller crescent

ocean forge
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not that

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umm

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the one where she shoot 3 cones

lyric summit
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oh the spear? yeah just stand between the boss and your marker, no matter the orientation

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aim the dps cone south, tank north, healer west/east

ocean forge
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yeah... that seems like the most straight-forward (read: braindead) strat

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thank you for helping me, you guys. this info is very helpful

lapis lodge
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how's raiding on new EU?

stable basin
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Oceanic Player looking for a home

lusty turret
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raided 8 hours today on EU, so i guess its okay πŸ€”

stable basin
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Looking for Help with most oceanic populated sever for raiding

hybrid rapids
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Oceanic
Raiding
Pick one

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Just kidding, tonberry probably your best pick

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Good luck finding group tho

stable basin
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whys that

latent temple
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Japanese Data Center but its an unofficial english one.
Population isnt that great as a result

blazing pelican
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Get a VPN and play on a NA server

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Worse ping but you can keep your sanity

wet stag
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Jp raid scene is fine tho

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It's kinda ded rn bc end of expac plateau but finding a static is easy enough imo

latent temple
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least he wont have to deal with salut

meager oriole
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the only way to unlock uwu is to finish o8s?

wet stag
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Yes

errant kayak
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MCH questline -

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Stephanivien: We don't want coin just don't interfere with us again

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but

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i'm poor

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oh this is endgame chat whoops

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paissasquint ehh it's fine

simple sky
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to be fair

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nobody si gonna play MCH anyway

errant kayak
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paissasquint is it bad that i find mch fun rn

simple sky
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yes

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I've been having loads of fun playing DRG and by fun I mean getting mad at myself for my inability to time buffs

errant kayak
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i haven't got to managing heat yet since i just got to 60 but

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we'll see how that goes

simple sky
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GL

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your class with completely change every 2 levels now

errant kayak
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looking forward to 5.0 changes though

glass trellis
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In Wreath of snakes EX

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If one healer is dead, who is the laser target?

hybrid rapids
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random

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non MT

ocean forge
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Can OT get laser?

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Question on Tsukuyomi EX, is phase skip possible with her now? I can swear that she cast nightfall in moon-meteor phase, but we just went straight for dropping meteors

quick verge
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there are a lot of phase skips

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the worst phase push is starting the left/right blade after her tankbuster

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since the tank will die

stable basin
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With good enough dps you can skip first fans

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I was in a group that pushed her below 35% in the first selenomancy and she went right to left/right blades

quick verge
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it's like your old bud cruise chaser in a11s

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:^)

lyric summit
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you didn't even do deltascape Kiddo

ocean forge
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I was in a tsukuyomi clear party today... The healers are pretty sloppy

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I would even say clueless

quick verge
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clear parties

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πŸ™ƒ

ocean forge
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On the first run, the nightfall skip in moon phase threw me off hard

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So we end up with a wipe, to be fair, even the DPS and healer are threw off