#endgame-lounge
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rightmost column being estimated improvement with sharp fire over base unmelded full aug tome set
so yeah, a bit over 1% improvement, more with a good weapon roll
Whether I get a blm relic or not depends on whether or not I can stomach pagos again.
It all feels so pointless though.
powerful
I actually haven't done a dungeon, period, in so long.
I spammed them a bit at the beginning of the tier for tomes.
Then I simply had no reason to do them.
I usually run expert for capping tomes, and slowly level some more jobs sometimes
also been farming for the alliance set of caster gear
I still have that goal of maxing my rdm.
But! I've actually made some progress.
It's not level 50 anymore.
It's level 51.
RDM is a bit fun sometimes
there's gonna be 4 mana gauges
and now they can cross class triplecast and contagion
I do kind of hope they take raise away from smn though.
I don't want the responsibility.
I actually feel so bad though, because when someone dies my healers are instantly like "I got it".
I want them to chill out a bit and let me lose 120p to raise over their 220p or whatever.
Bye Eureka. (for now)
Finally got to final omega 
nice 😮
Time to get stuck in hw progs that can’t pass mf 
Eyy
what stats you got on it?
is that red mage fucking gray
@torn kindle 835 DH
👀
👀
i did outdps my static brd in mustadio
he have 3000+ crit
brd relic
by about 100
he was outdpsing me by 500 in TG
because the add phase is actually all about
how can you milk PPs
so his crit was pretty good for him there
then he dced at last 30%

is why he dropped to 5k
Is there any reason to do FATES in pyros once I get the 385 weapon?
To my understanding it's all light farm after that
pyros crystals if you want the elemental armor
some give
decent amount of light
some drop expensive items
skoll claw, ying yang tissue
lamebrix dice
Do I need to power it up by light? Or can I move straight to Hydatos?
you can move to hydatos if you want
So is there any point to light farm in Pyros?
to give your weapon stats...
getting stats on relic
But do I need those stats if I make a Hydatos weapon?
a little light farm in pyros helps to get it started but I wouldn't spend more than a lockout there if don't have lv 60 yet (since getting 350 crystals in Hydatos takes a good bit of time)
eureka
ye boi
real quick question
do you get an LB3 bonus if a hit is only survived because of shields, or am I remembering wrong
yeah, if you take lethal damage but survive because of shielding, you get bonus LB generated per person that lives that "lethal" damage
well I guess to be more encompassing, it's more buff-based mitigation that works, debuff-based mitigation that lowers the damage to become non-lethal makes it not generate the extra LB
@quick verge have u gotten ur tenacity bis
If a tank loses aggro then whose fault is it? Is it the tank or the dps or both?
it's going to depend a bit on the situation haha
like, if the dps is using their tools for limiting/cutting aggro, and they still grab it, it's likely on the tank then. If they don't, then it's probably mostly on them. But it could be both, too
If you shield a WAR/DRK who invulns a hit and survives with 1 hp does that generate the LB for "saving" them?
@stable basin no
might as well erp
endgame is shakespeareian levles of erp
what lies beyondth thine pantaloons
it'll have raiders for sure
question is how good they'll be
not that your average Gilgamesh player is all that good
@wet stag nope
I know the raiders are getting out of malboro like rats on a sinking ship
gotta get everyone to go to Exodus
Is there something like "The Balance" but for Crafting/Gathering?
the balance has a crafting gathering channel
its pretty substantial from what i remember
@stable basin
np
Hydatos rate of which FATE spawn seem pretty low
this is the power of end-game at the end of a patch cycle
I just want to clear 
a lot of the people who would be interested in doing savage/extreme are either unsubbed and waiting for expac
or doing other things
fug
you might get more luck once the restrictions lift in a month or so
not really
duty complete farm parties are going to be popping for a while
esp the o12s ones for mounts
then after everyone farms bis for leveling dungeons in 5.0
they're gonna go back to eureka/ultimate/erping in limsa
Generally if it gives mounts. People will run it
I hate the pug experience
wait for an hour for people
someone leaves after 2 wipes
everyone else follows suit
wait another hour
fuck raiding
if it's not practice, it's 3 wipes and disband
not sure how other DCs do it because that's how the JP DCs do it.
it was set to practice
but we were wiping on the mechanic that wasn't practiced
didn't even get there
I suspect the Hydatos scaling is just awful (it's good with a fresh instance but as more players join in an instance the more likely it is have to do 120 kills to pop anything at all. same goes with hp scaling for extra fake difficulty)
HP scaling is needed or we get what happens with hunts
where it melts in literally 1 gcd
They're hilarious when like nobody is around though
dragonfire dived into the bunny fate once when it was literally just me
almost killed them all
I found it more annoying with bunny fate bullet sponge trash
I think it also acts on BA once ovni is killed/snapshotted so there's a large possibility of ba being impossible to clear on a full instance unless 48 are inside
For m/f, what’s needed for the 2nd tank lb3?
I remember there’s specifications for tank/healer mitigation
have everyone stack for first arrow/meteor
tank lb3
should get ~2 lb bars
survive cosmo memory
3rd lb bar
repeat
do not addle or reprisal
or dismantle for that matter
HP troubadour probably bad idea too
zzz why am i doing 11s and 10s every week literally useless
Ah k
well buff based mitigation and shielding is fine
No attack mitigation from the tanks essentially
just no debuff-based mitigation or anything that raises HP and makes stuff non-lethal before the LB/shielding
Ah k
New hobby, shouting Nael quotes to set off people's ACT triggers
that's kinda fucked up
You suffer the effect of Doom.
Twintania readies Twister.
From red moon I descend, a hail of stars to bring!
Nael confirmed new "Tales of" caster
yes, exactly
holy shit
Amazing
lmfao
So UCOB has a mechanic where Nael does a mechanic based on what they said text wise. So generally you have ACT call out the mechanic so u dont have to worry too much about what it is
the TTS is just spamming call outs so the raider cant hear ACT
That's dumb
Because someone trusted donations too much
its not too bad for like JP
cause as u know its character based so u can just point out the characters relatively quickly
as usual, thanks Koji Fox?
whoever
it's not that awful after you spend 3 months in there
i could tell the one during dives before my trigger
but that's the only one 
whoever did english translation
Except he's not the one who decided to do rp mechanics 
in jp it's a lot easier to know which mechanics are coming up
complains about rp mechanic
must be EN translation's fault
i mean they could literally put
like words that make it easier to spot out
not saying its entirely on the english translation team
they worked with what they were given
above 2 person gets the point
The English version of the quotes lack just enough consistency that you couldn't figure them out on the fly, so you'd either need to memorize them or just use ACT to call it out
im finally 70 and finished the MC of stormblood, but im lost what i should do, is there a endgame guide pinger or something?
tankyu guys 

👻
The main problem with Nael's quotes is that they're all similar, and you have a an extremely short time to properly respond to them. You can memorize them, sure, but why
When you can just make a trigger
Getting there
she angery
Nael isnt too hard just that people too slow 
nah i was the one trapping
Does anyone know roughly how much damage O10S autos do?
You guys think I have a chance to get into the current endgame raids as new player? if so how should I go about it? I have played other mmos like ragnarok online, wow. So I have basic understanding of things. I want to take these months before shadowbringer comes out as learning experience and then start beeing more serious once the new content is out and I learned all the basic stuff.
Thanks guys!
@opaque lantern u can clear the current tier in time for SHB
just depends on your luck and patience
Recommend to get the highest ilevel gear you can get first of all
since the the first floor minimum ilevel is i380 2nd is i385 and 3rd/4th is i390
For DPS you want to learn your rotation and be comfortable enough so u can do mechanics at the same time
Tanks you wanna learn the rotation plus read a bit on the mitigation tools
Healers, just read the healers guide imo
More questions just ask here or the balance discord for class specific guides they can provide
where is this healer guide
!faq healerguide
yeah same thing lol
Hmm okay thanks. Guess I start off doing pug grps once I have gotten appropiate gear
yeah pretty much
Somebody
rescued the tank
on AV during the tank buster
into the raid

holy shit
impressive
wut
auram vale is below 50 tho so no rescue?
Yup
Tanks are the only classes that can actually pull off double edge due to the damage you take.
Wondering if you could do an all tank run with double edge and PLD healing. Probably could
sounds doable, but then you wouldn't have a sleep for the centaurs
Do you need any weather/time to spwan zuzu in hydatos?
Ok great
I've had many blue DPS who do DE+Martialists
Once they hit 10+ stacks I generally spam cure 1/2 on them
They're doing a ton more damage than what I would be doing so I don't mind too much.
How do I add another secondary stat to eureka weapon?
instead of replaceing first stat?
you can't, just keep rolling and accept every roll until you get 5 lines
all rolls are random, you can't pick and choose secondaries from previous rolls
at least it's just one crystal per hand, other jobs need 2
and if you get a good shield roll you can just keep that and get better sword rolls and vice versa
Farming Pyros light sucks
!faq tankguide
#kupo-bot-spam 
Ah im sorry - I didn’t notice there was a channel for that ^^;
Just coming back from a long break, haven't touched anything since Anemos. Is Eureka worth the time?
@hazy lichen Weapon could be worth, it's the grind way to get max iLvL weapon
armor is pretty much just glamour
it takes pretty long to catch up the relic to relevant ilvl, i'd say if you have limited time then just settling for a tome weapon is enough, if you have nothing to do or want the weapons for glamour then do it
Has anyone been having problems with logs being invalid when uploading to fflogs lately?
not really
works fine for me
i really like this game with sound
the 4 stages of tanking - stage 1 you are doing the boss for the first time and you die cauze of excitment. stage 2 - you try to focus but you still die. stage 3 - you almoust kill the boss. and finally stage 4 you manage to kill the boss
Pretty sure stage 4 is a myth
not sure where to ask this but at what level i can strengthen maggia board? https://i.gyazo.com/77c7a6d5b7c55442bd0cf37c26c10658.png
if i ask in #questions-and-help its for newbie
hmm i dont have quest anymore, level 3 elemental
on the map, it's the confluence
the number in the circle is the quest level
if you interact with krile she should tell you that you should be looking for a confluence or something and she'll give you a general direction, the map has the exact location
https://i.gyazo.com/b2cd72c870c3b55f325555651bb09572.png you mean this?
yeah
isnt that spot strong mob?
https://i.gyazo.com/0866d90f7897a7a200087cfbbf905390.png this is what krile dialogue when i talk to her
FFXIV Eureka Anemos Story Quests Level 1-17 - Stormblood 33:36 Magicite Level 3, Eureka Anemos X 13.5 Y 20.3, 53:26 Magicite Level 5, Eureka Anemos X 24.2 Y ...
well i see the house
Go inside
Oh hmm
inside the video there is those bhoots
around me is skeleton which is where im dead now lol
bhoots spawn at the house during the night, so you need to go in the daytime
dont wanna upset japanese player but... no one help
i did....but im clueless
https://i.gyazo.com/8f1ff5fffc83928570260b1698d97e82.png is this the house?
nvm found
It's best to not travel at night if you're trying to do something solo. Undead spawn, and they aggro to touch or blood (loss of HP)
They despawn during the day
Also be aware that elemental sprites will aggro to any spells cast
and some enemies aggro to sight, but some aggro to sound, so running past won't work; you need to walk
check this godlike prog
how many legends are you getting carried by this time
3 probably
Hey that's more pulls of Bahamut than I normally see.
Pretty sure my raid lead was gonna blow a gasket if people died to Nael again.
hmm i thought level 10 only have penalty? https://i.gyazo.com/9dea0b65ccff43b72da336385ae998fa.png
shit, ok bye bye eureka... cant summon companion, cant use mount... wth
well you can use mount, just not at the start
I'm buying potions for Anemos solo
its not helping, i mean, i wonder aimlessly try to find quest location but always dead
i have mount yet cant use it while others can
im a summoner so its fine w.o companion however when i wanna switch class? i dont have choco to summon
on what
doormega
So when is the next patch for the MSQ supposed to drop?
Most likely march 26th since that's after Tokyo Fanfest.
Oh snap, that's this month?
yep!
Awesome!
geez i need to take a break from eureka grind
ayy
grats estelle
nope
clear rate is determined by the amount of legends in your party
0 legends/ultimate legends mean you have a decent chance
the best part is
this is probably my last night with this group 
since i'm jumping to a crystal-based static next week
unfortunate


where do you level in eureka anemos at level 10 elemental?
Go after the lv9 wolves
do fates
Get a group and chain farm the lvl 15 enemies and do FATEs when they spawn
Challenge logs
is there a place to ask about glamour or should ask here?
since glamour IS considered the TRUE endgame :S
hello, i started playing the game recently and had a blast playing samurai so far
i'm only interested into pve hl/vhl and the more i read about ff14 pve the more i feel like i won't have any slot as SAM
so i come here to ask you guys, how hard it is for a sam to find a group to do pve high-end content?
i'm not really willing to play blm, nin or drag =(
thx
just apply for casual statics until you master the job, casual statics don't care about the job (or at least they shouldn't, if they do it's pretty safe to assume they want to rely on party comp instead of player skill) and more hardcore statics value player skill above party comp and meta jobs
thanks you for your fast answer
as a filthy casual, SAM seems like a fairly common pick anyways
so i don't think you'd have too much trouble
Sam feels so good to play too :)
like it has a decent number of parses uploaded on fflogs, right behind SMN and RDM
My group started progging O11S the other day, and I had a question about Chains of Memory. If the two chain-takers start north/south so that the chain covers up the first inner tower, would they have enough time to sprint 90 degrees around the arena, to give the inner people room to take the first tower? Basically, we're thinking that this will take the burden off of the 6 inner people to decide which side to be on, because they can all go to either side, and the 2 chain-takers adjust to give them space.
Do people regularly do this, or is it just about seeing where the first tower will end up based on ferrofluid phase, then sending the chain takers East/West, and the 6 inner people to the side the tower will be on?
Pugs just do east and west and have the ,6 adjust to North or south
I believe east and west u have less movement overall too
Its not too hard to notice north and south for the 6 just needs some practice and you'll be good
yeah you have a long time to determine north/south, and you only need one person confident with the callout and the rest to follow
@pastel cobalt
you can technically do it so that the group always starts in a static spot, and sometimes the chain people will have to rotate the other direction once depending on pattern
I'll be that one person, gonna confidently kill everyone in the raid 
but that's really awkward and I've found it prone to more issues
than just having people go N or S and having a set direction
And honestly it's early enough into the fight
From a movement perspective like Rider mentioned, I think the normal strategy would have less movement
Youll learn fast
So that makes sense
Here's a pic someone made that i snagged awhile back showing how to determine North or south
far tower on south = start south
Yeah that pic is good
I go based on the inner towers, works nice
That helps a lot, thanks guys!
a question, should i go ala mhigan equipment or lost allagan?
mm well the lost allagan is higher ilvl but generally you'll be looking to pick up the gear from mendacity (ryumaku) for the first big ilvl jump at 70
well i wanna too but idk which dungeon drop.. i think i got genesis from eureka https://i.gyazo.com/8f4376d3d0ab360da17c3caa6e9c89bd.png
all level 70 dungeons and trials will give mendacity and genesis, as well as running roulettes on a level 70 job
Eureka ia the fastest way to cap genesis for me lol
Is there no faster way of levelling up in Eureka Anemos then by doing the NM Train? I just spent the last hour or more fighting NM and only gained a single level.
Challenge logs
Are u doing those too
And i think lucky potions can give u an exp boost
pot of harmony is something like 3% xp gain and shuld be combined with food (any food type not raid food)
What's pot of harmony?
!item Potion of Harmony
*This innovative alchemical concoction assists the body in acclimating to Eureka's discordant aetheric environment.
<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Elemental EXP Bonus: +10% <span style="color:#cc22ff;">Duration: 60m (if HQ, 90m)
※Only available for use in the Forbidden Land, Eureka.*
Its a crafted item u get from lockbox materials
can also market board it (should be like 1500 a pop or less)
but if want to self craft it's 1 lizard tail, 1 pagos sage, 1 pagos spring water, and 1 reishi mushroom (alc lv60)
If you're at least in Pyros it's easy to get the mats for
Pagos it's kind of a nightmare
The mats are less than 50 gil here
No, I'm not doing Challenge Logs. When asking in Shout inside Eureka, everyone kept telling me NM was the fastest way, and I should just join a train, but it felt like all I was doing was dying constantly, and still wasn't levelling very fast.
honestly for the first few levels challenge logs are very good
like, the 2nd tier of them will give you an entire level
I'd say try to find a fairy and make good use of the buff it gives you for damage, experience, and the regen
Try using this map to find possible fairy locations https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423615699458457620/424438022759514112/unknown.png
NMs just start slowly being better once you're a high enough level because you don't get less EXP from being too low level.
what is a good WAR weapon I can get if I am not doing Savage?
relic weapon
@stable basin relic, tomestone or Seiryu weapon
x_x that's a lot to do XD I am barely in Pagos, but thank you for the responses
@lyric summit https://youtu.be/cJNIbLFB4lg?t=1471 
The monk is completely different form the other melee classes in the game so where here to help get you started. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Region4Ga...
love this guy
not because its witty and informative, but because it shows that despite being regarded as the most selfish and a noob magnet of a job, it can parse higher than blms by a gap so high it removes multiple 0s until all dps parses referencing samurai will only show 200
that's possibly the most cursed thing I've tried to watch in ages
my ears bleed now
and this and this and that and this and this this that this
seek Hydaelyn
his optimal trick rotation "that he came up with himself and is probably the intended combination" is (no slashing) 3mudra+suiton+trick+duality - aeolian edge - dream+suiton TCJ+kassatsu raiton(+he forgot mug)
one gcd trick btw
The ninja job can seem intimidating, especially the ninjutus combinations, but hopefully this will help. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Region4Gaming Twi...
it's taken years of research to develop the optimal nin opener which takes centuries of clipping
holy shit
i like that he is putting effort but what he came up with and spreading is just wrong
nah. piece by piece (with steady hand still active) into Observe + Focused Synthesis combo x 3 gets me to finish
so that's 100%
so if my ilevel equipment is around 358-360...should i do those omega quest?
Yeah, if you meet the minimum ilvl, you're good to go. The final section has a requirement of 355 for normal mode, so you'll be fine
Normal mode raids are easypeasy so no worries
Until you see 6 wipes on o11n in a trial roulette and you just abandon cuz you gave up on ppl
I think more wipes are on 10n lol
I've only seen one wipe on o10n so far, which was on the add phase. It was dumb
O11N is hard cuz people cant read
So I've finally reached Pagos. What's the fastest way to level up here? My Eureka Challenge Log is already completed, so I can't rely on that right now.
Why not before 24?
Uh the lv20 nm is in lv25 territory
The fate u will always see on the map are bunny fates for treasure, doesnt give much exp
Ah. I'm being taxi'd, so I guess it's not too bad to do NM's.
just be lv 21
get the first aetheryte
And you have access to lv 20 21 22 23 24 25 nm
Oh i did mine solo
lv 23 for the top left
Not rly fun experience
Also. I've heard that I'm gonna need Light once i hit 35. How bad is the grind for it?
u can get light at 25
assuming u doing the quests
Youll be in pagos for some time, lets say
Oof. I think I'm just gonna go back to Anemos and level to 25, then go from there.
I wouldn't recommend that. The Pagos NMs give vastly more experience than any NM in Anemos will.
Unless you're just talking about the Challenge Log.
Even at level 20 or 21 you could just camp the south half of the map and do the 6 NMs that can spawn there.
Killing a mob inthere gives 10k exp
Yeah. Once you unlock the next eureka zone you should go there ASAP unless you still need to finish your weapon.
only exception being Pagos where you wait until 20 because they ended the Anemos story at 17 for whatever reason
Yeah its strange i guess they dont want ppl to be frustrated running around without mounts till 20
Then this isn't working out well. Normal mobs take forever to kill and give a tiny sliver to my experience. NMs are faster, but I can't find someone to safely taxi me around because of Pagos map design, and I can't get around on foot fast enough to keep upbecause of the map design as well. I don't have my Challenge Logs, so my literal best bet is Anemos. @torn kindle
F
It will all get better in hydatos unfortunately
I just have to get through Pagos and Pyros first. T-T
I'm just gonna go back to Anemos for now and do my best to level up. When next Tuesday rolls around and my Challenge Logs reset, I'll hop back into Pagos at whatever level I'm at and go from there.
What lv are u?
21 currently.
Attuned to the first aetheryte?
Yeah.
That was where my last group dropped me because they were tired with the long taxi rides I required to help out.
Thats good the 21 and 20 nms are just a few metres from it
Yeah, but it won't be very fast doing it that way. I'd have to go to the NM, then hope I can find a group just for those NMs.
Oh yeah pagos is super ez with logs cos sprites of almost every level and ashkin spawns there
Well, I can also just find a group doing Challenge Logs and go from there. If I gain levels like I did in Anemos doing the logs, then I'll get to a high level pretty quickly.
@steep iris natural drift
Nah i held req for a couple of combos cause i forgot it's up
Same
Honestly surprised how much DPS a PLD/WAR/DRK can put out. Just randomly see the 5k+ dps 👀
🤔 meaning i dont play enough tank in Savage 
i was just surprised that i could do similar ish DPS until the pugs start going crazy 
slashing.jpg
so uh
you could've used requiescat on orb
and not have lost a usage
some other shit idk
let me turn on my computer
So I'm curious. Does the Eureka weapon change appearance much from the one I got in Anemos?
yes
Anemos to Pagos is just glow addition/change pagos to pyros is model change then pyros to hydatos is second model change
Cool. Just figured I'd check before I get too invested into Pagos. Not that I can do Pagos right now anyway. Too low level. No Challenge Log. I'm stuck. T-T
gamerescape has images of each step
How hard will it be to get the final Hydatos weapon before Shadowbringer? I mostly want it for the Glamour.
Not hard
Pyros and Hydatos you can level to max in a few hours through reflect farming
The only time sink is NM spawns and some light grinding
So my main hump in the road in Pagos then.
Yeah
Fun.
Hopefully I can get lucky and find someone who can taxi me around between NMs. Anemos does seem too slow to level up properly after 20.
Yeah it’s not intended for 20+
Unfortunately, without my Challenge Log, neither is Pagos. 😄
congrats 
ty
Grats
This is just a friendly reminder to everyone that line strat in o9s is the best strat, and also that dps in is aids.
ok
GJ
And yeah if someone says DPS in I just leave
There’s absolutely no reason to not use line strat or AT LEAST dps out
DPS in is just a huge waste of uptime
i just do whatever people want cause i'm ranged and don't care as long as it gets everyone through the mechanic
public campaigns against dps in were probably a better meme when the tier wasn't about to unlock in 2 weeks tho
DPS in early in the tier tho 😃
Thank you for the reminder, have a nice day
Thing is that there is literally no possible gain from DPS in
Not a single one
So there’s no reason to ever use it at any point in the tier
Ever.
DPS out requires less movement and is less dangerous than in
So less DPS, more movement, more chance for error
it's the first strat that comes to mind in blind prog when you're trying to figure out a way to resolve all the debuffs, cause no one's thinking of uptime strats at that point
and then most groups just stick to their strats that work
even if they're dumb
yeh like im not arguing DPS out is worse
i subbed for like 3-4 groups that were doing chain of memory clockwise-clockwise-counterclockwise cause it's a blm uptime strat and they're used to it, despite being overly complicated when the blm is subbed out
just that people do what they can for clear and it just happens that dps in was also a viable solution
without thinking of optimization 🤔
I've never heard of an uptime strat for BLM for level checker before
Because you get full uptime with regular strat haha
My old static used that strat when we were first progging it.
I think they ended up changing it because it was too confusing for pugs.
You can casually move your way along with zero loss haha, plus triple and sharp come up later so those are extra trivial
Mhm. I think the people coming up with the strats were just having fun trying to think of how to make it as efficient as possible in terms of movement.
Don't really see the point in the end though haha
It shouldn't really be costing anyone uptime any which way
Particularly BLM with when triple comes up there
Static original strats are always a pain to teach to pugs
doing o12s with a sub is really shit since we have a different HW strat
Yeah, it's the curse when ya gotta sub
bahamut hurts so much
flatten with dark mind 
wtb> dark mind cross class
wtb>fell cleave cross class
my group wants me to hallowed the flatten after fellruin
but gigaflare + autos + flare breath
hurts
if you hallowed that i dont think it would be back up in time for golden would it
nvm just checked logs, it would be actually
yeah
just get apoc
apoc the flatten 
apoc there wouldn't be worth
and it wouldn't even be up
since i get apoc when covering the triple flare breaths before fellruin
intreasting question is it better to use the coins from thew allance raid to go from a 360 to 370 wepon (the bard 380 wep is optimized prity badly) or 390 to 400 ilvl ring. I am thinking wepon
definitely weapon
or just. both
only the i400 coin is capped
the other two aren't
just do ridorana and rabanastre twice, and one orbonne
gata see if there is a altermnate bow for bards for w/e reasson the ilvl 370 it way better stat wise than the 380 one. that lose of direct hit is rather sily
there's a priority pinned in the balance bard channel
but not sure if it goes down all the way to 370
!iam <primal> <eath> <demon>
sory about that
Damn. Day late and a dollar short to the juicy line strat reminder discussions.
oops i triggered some people
woops
i wish this was web 1.0 that I could helldump on people
but i'm guessing that's frowned upon
Does DRK antimagic cape work against snakeboss blue ball tank swap nuke?
I know infirm soul is magic based, I don't know what damage Cursekeeper does (apart from being based off damage taken)
Should do magic
Yeah it's magic
so how worth it is it to delevel to 49 from 50 in pyros to reflect light farm?
if i wanna get a weapon from eureka fast
if you don't want stats then don't do it
i'm already at the point where i need to light farm so ofc i'm doing it cuz i need stats
should i lower my xp a bit on 49 as well so i dont level back up to 50 too fast?
you will want to chain a lot on 49 so no point in doing that cause you would break the chain, but chaining to 30 with light farm will boost you higher than lvl 50
yep got it by now but thx anyway
it takes 3 chains to get back to 50
assuming u did do challenge log
you will get 50 soo fast
that you will hate it
anyone would like do o1s with me on the sever malboro?
Just started the omega yesterday
well, running old content that drops i340 gear won't help
get genesis gear, alphascape drops, orbonne drops, crafted gear
and try some o9s practice parties
or suzaku/seiryu ex, that's harder than story mode omega but less difficult that savage
you only need 370 to do o9s
👌all rite thanks
im 371 ilvl should i just grind alpha v4 for gear?
v4 only drops tokens for the chest pants and gloves i think?
if you want the full set then you'll have to do all floors
yeah (and weekly token until lock is removed maybe in final sb msq patch 4.56). since that's 380 stuff might be worth also getting body/leg from monastary if can stand cid's erp edgelord voice acting lines
why do casters want S when there's clearly a nin in the party smh
South means they don't have to move at all for clock positional mechanics and no matter where the boss goes, they'll always be in the correct spot
ninja doesn't have to be south for anything but the occasional positional which in a pinch can be fenagled with true north 
always be casting is very powerful
to be fair you only have to be W for a brief amount of time in most fights
especially in like, o11s you only have to be there for like a total of 20 seconds in the entire fight 
you should take southwest so you can retain either positional with only a flick of your position 
was o11s, it's more i don't have to use true north during flamethrower and save it for panto
ask for sw/se 
usually do, but it didn't matter much anyways
ye
people kept dying to star/lar and somehow flamethrower so I'd did what anyone would do
it do be like that
bless the reduced true north cd though
now reduce it to 60
Lol
i wonder what they mean by saying they adding endgame for crafters in shadowbringers
ishgard building
i'm betting that'll be tied to the diadem 'revival'
oh jesus, gross
We get to build our own Eureka
ok so mh as a SAM what's my stats priority ? reach 1633sks for the dps rotation then dump everything in crit?
there are different sks tiers but in general you just meld crit then dh/det
det? 
it's good, it affects dots iirc, and the sam dot is a big part of your damage
oki
determination
it's low priority but it's not a bad stat
sam just takes any stat tbh
but yea focus on the sks tier you want then meld crit and dh/det
you got a link to know those sks tier?
above 1633sks i need to switch to 2sen opener? oh ok
this one? http://ffxivrotations.com/1d35
looks like it yeah
oki
the openers in the infographic have descriptions under them at which sks they should be used https://i.imgur.com/1fLHJz9.png
Or fast 3 sen
this is from the sam questions pin o.o
just post a balance invite 
join the samurai channels in role selection and read up on the pins, lots of optimization resources and faqs
^
thanks 
plus, folks who play SAM a good deal able to precisely answer questions, too~
i'm gonna delete the wall if you don't mind
tyvm guys 
aita for leaving final prog pugs if we don't get past m/f within 40ish minutes
or should i lower my expectations?
probably not
I feel half shitty sometimes for leaving quickly, but if people are constantly dying to numbers and shield
Eh, I feel conflicted really
Is the iLvl 400 Omega/Scaevan gear better than the 390 Elemental gear?
many pieces will be, some won't be
depends on the job and build
what job do you play?
thanks @simple sky
Piety to comfort > Crit > Determination/Direct Hit
I know folks were working on a BiS potentially using the 390 eureka stuff but I haven't seen one finalized and posted yet
but yeah, follow that rough priority for materia, for sure^
dont meld direct hit on a healer unless you go for meme dps output
So I could go without any Piety, I guess.
Direct hit is fine on healers. It gives slightly more damage than Det, Det gives slightly more healing. In both cases, the difference between the two is very small.
so i can buy only yama grimoire atm, what should i put materia in 1st?
crit
what was ist, approximately a dps increase by 0.5% for a 3% loss of healing or smth
i know the yama grimoire is something gross like det sks
i meld dh myself, but i go for the dps, which you shouldnt do if you arent comfortable to a high level with the healing
but ye, if you are happy with where your piety is, the most important stat will be crit
also can consider a bit of sps if it suits your fancy, don't go all out with it, but bit speedy WHM is still cozy WHM
though adjusting piety is also a note when considering running at different sps, as well
det sks?
just checked stats on the elemental +2 gear
the pants, those will be strong on a healer. for the other pieces without doing any calculations, you are probably better off with the 400 pieces from savage/genesis
ty =w=
but if you want specific numbers you probably need to go to the balance discord, the whm people are really nice 
big Levi fan
how much dps i need to deal in order to not being kicked out of o9s-12s?
sam
like 6k
380
6.5k
should definitely be trying to do 6.5k or higher. 7k is average for samurai clearing O9S.
380 weapon
Oh, sorry. That's the current average. Things get skewed towards the end. 6.5k was average dps when the fight came out.
Why 380 tho. Go kill the snek a few times.
if it's crafted 380 can augment it too since that's basically free
@steep iris In the time it takes them to decide to slowly poke their head in the door we could have killed the entire room
Holy shit I'm dying of old age
"reclear"
commercial survival manual II when
is DRK ok to use for end game content and does it have any advantages over PLD/WAR?
I started 3 weeks ago and am about the hit i380. I don't know enough about the game to make comparisons between the tank classes. After i380 I assume savage raids are next on the to do list and I want to be prepared.
technically all tanks are valuable at endgame unless you are world first or totally hardcore
play what you're best at and enjoy
it's really just best for dungeons but it can be taken to raids
if you want world first you need to bring a
DRK

not really but the first UCOB clear having a DRK in it, at the height of THIS JOB IS WORTHLESS, was probably the funniest thing this game has ever spawned
lol
doubly so when every theorycrafter started ripping the job and the fight apart trying to figure out what weird gimmick the player had stumbled upon, then he was like "I like DRK, it's fun"
lol
so yeah if you find something fun you'll be better at the job then forcing to go so called "meta"
as long as you don't take more then 1 of the same job its all good
hmm ok thanks.
Plus you're bound to play better on a job you like in comparison to one you hate
@icy trench Dark Knight is specifically a good tank with regards to self-mitigation and magic-mitigation. DPS wise it is near Warrior atm, above Paladin
pld blocks magic now too
No tank is specifically a detriment, each has weaknesses, each has strengths
I'm aware PLD blocks magic now too
👍
Magic tbs are just tickles for drk 
laughs in 
doubly so when every theorycrafter started ripping the job and the fight apart trying to figure out what weird gimmick the player had stumbled upon, then he was like "I like DRK, it's fun"``` This was mentioned in an interview with Famitsu iirc, not theorycrafters
i mean this was two separate things
the TC community figured DRK would be in the world first and didn't care 
the TC/World Prog community is quite aware of the prog strengths of DRK and why it's useful in raids such as UCOB/UWU
oh yeah
the really high-level people weren't particularly weirded out, but it threw a lot of semi-hardcore people for a loop
it threw the meta chasers off sure
TC?
theorycrafting
does it matter which server I am in if i want to find raid parties? I was looking it up and certain servers were known for raiding? Is that not the case anymore because the party finder uses the data center? I'm not sure if it always has or not. really new to the game
yeah raiding uses the datacentre
you can put up a cross world pf
the "raiding servers" thing was really only a thing before cross world pf
alright thanks.
"Raiding server" would presumably still matter if you want to join a linkshell or free company related to raiding
Final Omega question: Any ideas why I was targeted for Oversampled in this clip? https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelyBombasticMoonPipeHype
only reason would be not both tanks on the left
Looks like there wasn't 2 people on the monitor side. If there's not 2 people then it picks someone at random.
it randomly chooses appropriste targets
if there ain't two dudes on the side, it randomly chooses someone else
I think its proximity based?
Other people have also said it's cause our warrior was being a dummy so we'll go with that 👍
100% that
I mean, your WAR wasn't on the monitor side it looks like.
monitors are not proximity, it just randomly picks 2 targets that are on the correct side
or in the video above, it randomly picked the other one 
can someone explain to me seiryu ex double tank swap
I am off tank and am supposed to be absorbing both tank buster moves
were u just in a party
yes lol
Did u have a scythe
yes dont kill me
lol
Anyways
During the cast of Cursekeeper you provoke, they shirk you
Take the tank buster
WAIT
The other tank provokes during the next cursekeeper cast and you shirk him
and tanks that and keeps it
Thats how it works
how long does the cursekeeper debuff last?
just dont worry about it
i dont know the exact time, but as long as u dont tank the tank buster with the cursekeeper debuff
and its okay to hold the boss
cause the other tank will take it back in time
it makes sense if only one person can hold cursekeeper at a time. the way that I was looking at it, is that since the first tank took the debuff it would remain on him even during the next cycle.. or be applied to us both since I took it.. so i thought I was supposed to take both tb and other tank takes both debuff
ehh.. im stupid
its ok
Generally u wanna shirk someone after they provoke
if they are going to take it back
If you know that a tank swap isnt coming up in the next 2 minutes
its okay to provoke the boss and shirk the tank for more enmity
have u looked at these for tanking? So You Want to Be a Hero - Beginner's Guide - https://goo.gl/tJokMp
Same style guide but with more information! - https://goo.gl/nYzAnq
Basic tanking infographic - https://i.imgur.com/ux8nQyc.png
So You Want to be a HeroA Beginner’s Guide to Tanking - FFXIV Emiin Vanih - Lamia Server Greetings, tank chat! Emiin Vanih of here to give you tips and tips for starting our playing the role that many people in MMOs do not dare to tread - the stalwart defender. T...
And i believe u play DRK? so https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uYLWxWayYrliAmwJb8B7y0edm7LamvnGkPfjq2CcVYE/edit
Nice to read to get some insight on your abilties
reading it now thanks
@icy trench if you have any questions i am literally the author of that
two of those guides
oh wow lol, thanks and will let you know if i have any
i am so tired, i'm going to get some rest and then read all of this so I don't forget it after sleeping 😅
is OS on instance or loot lockout?
Omega Savage? still on weekly lockout
str in accessories, crit where you can meld crit, dh otherwise
^
what are soem good places to reflect farm for levels at lvl 57 in hydatos?
sprite island
which is where exactly?
https://ffxiv-eureka.com/maps/hydatos.jpg east of ovni
oi is getting lost allagan stuff on an alt class worth it while gathering mend and genesis? I max centurios fast
Ehh, not really.
Maybe just to replace your weapon since that’s expensive to get with tomestones
lol I'm gonna do it anyway for the glam xD
https://gyazo.com/f067e0821bd431bd8efb525ad3e451c0
from failing for hours to this lol.
thanks @heavy mist & @desert trench

any tips on making gil? not looking to get rich quick. Would like something I'd have to work towards
One way to start is to limit ur spending .
First thing I would say is get a retainer and check to see if anything in your inventory is worth some cash on MB
hello all
i need help
how to defeat charibert and i have like 10 knights on me and it klled all my help and i cant kill cause it kept getting healed and also her i cant seems to kill her off cause of her hp is not dropping
this quest looks impossible to do and also this quest is equal to my lvl which is 59








