#endgame-lounge

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dull radish
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rightmost column being estimated improvement with sharp fire over base unmelded full aug tome set

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so yeah, a bit over 1% improvement, more with a good weapon roll

inland ore
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Whether I get a blm relic or not depends on whether or not I can stomach pagos again.

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It all feels so pointless though.

quick verge
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you'll be the god of the level 75 leveling dungeon

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then you toss your old gear

dull radish
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powerful

inland ore
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I actually haven't done a dungeon, period, in so long.

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I spammed them a bit at the beginning of the tier for tomes.

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Then I simply had no reason to do them.

dull radish
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I usually run expert for capping tomes, and slowly level some more jobs sometimes

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also been farming for the alliance set of caster gear

inland ore
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I still have that goal of maxing my rdm.

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But! I've actually made some progress.

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It's not level 50 anymore.

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It's level 51.

quick verge
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amazing

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you may finish leveling rdm by 2050

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1 level every 2 years

inland ore
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Nah I just gotta wait until 5.0 when they make rdm OP.

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Then I'll 80 it in 2 days.

dull radish
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RDM is a bit fun sometimes

quick verge
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there's gonna be 4 mana gauges

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and now they can cross class triplecast and contagion

inland ore
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I do kind of hope they take raise away from smn though.

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I don't want the responsibility.

quick verge
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simply

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don't raise

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free country

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or play Melee and discover a new type of hell

inland ore
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I actually feel so bad though, because when someone dies my healers are instantly like "I got it".

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I want them to chill out a bit and let me lose 120p to raise over their 220p or whatever.

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Bye Eureka. (for now)

errant kayak
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Finally got to final omega moogledrink

heavy mist
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nice 😮

errant kayak
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Time to get stuck in hw progs that can’t pass mf moogledrink

rustic lichen
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Eyy

boreal edge
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dat relic is sure broken

torn kindle
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what stats you got on it?

thin vessel
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is that red mage fucking gray

boreal edge
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@torn kindle 835 DH

torn kindle
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F

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Imagine if that was all Crit

boreal edge
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see DH rate

torn kindle
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👀

heavy mist
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👀

boreal edge
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i did outdps my static brd in mustadio

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he have 3000+ crit

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brd relic

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by about 100

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he was outdpsing me by 500 in TG

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because the add phase is actually all about

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how can you milk PPs

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so his crit was pretty good for him there

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then he dced at last 30%

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is why he dropped to 5k

glass trellis
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Is there any reason to do FATES in pyros once I get the 385 weapon?

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To my understanding it's all light farm after that

quick verge
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pyros crystals if you want the elemental armor

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some give

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decent amount of light

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some drop expensive items

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skoll claw, ying yang tissue

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lamebrix dice

glass trellis
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Do I need to power it up by light? Or can I move straight to Hydatos?

quick verge
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you can move to hydatos if you want

glass trellis
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So is there any point to light farm in Pyros?

quick verge
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to give your weapon stats...

lusty oak
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getting stats on relic

glass trellis
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But do I need those stats if I make a Hydatos weapon?

lusty oak
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you can return later

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after finishing i405

glass trellis
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Ohh

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I see

rapid sapphire
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a little light farm in pyros helps to get it started but I wouldn't spend more than a lockout there if don't have lv 60 yet (since getting 350 crystals in Hydatos takes a good bit of time)

elder dawn
quick verge
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got an entire week before i start trapping ucob 😔

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what do i do until then

steady pebble
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eureka

quick verge
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oh that's a pretty decent idea

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full RGB armor so everyone can see me for mechanics

steady pebble
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ye boi

vital cypress
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real quick question

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do you get an LB3 bonus if a hit is only survived because of shields, or am I remembering wrong

dull radish
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yeah, if you take lethal damage but survive because of shielding, you get bonus LB generated per person that lives that "lethal" damage

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well I guess to be more encompassing, it's more buff-based mitigation that works, debuff-based mitigation that lowers the damage to become non-lethal makes it not generate the extra LB

wet stag
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@quick verge have u gotten ur tenacity bis

meager oriole
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If a tank loses aggro then whose fault is it? Is it the tank or the dps or both?

dull radish
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it's going to depend a bit on the situation haha

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like, if the dps is using their tools for limiting/cutting aggro, and they still grab it, it's likely on the tank then. If they don't, then it's probably mostly on them. But it could be both, too

stable basin
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If you shield a WAR/DRK who invulns a hit and survives with 1 hp does that generate the LB for "saving" them?

simple sky
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woah expecting dps to use diversion

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what world is this

wet stag
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@stable basin no

stable basin
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qq

vital cypress
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also uh

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how's the outlook on crystal having any raiders at all

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Bad?

thin vessel
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might as well erp

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endgame is shakespeareian levles of erp

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what lies beyondth thine pantaloons

high ether
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it'll have raiders for sure

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question is how good they'll be

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not that your average Gilgamesh player is all that good

quick verge
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@wet stag nope

stable basin
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I know the raiders are getting out of malboro like rats on a sinking ship

quick verge
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gotta get everyone to go to Exodus

stable basin
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Is there something like "The Balance" but for Crafting/Gathering?

heavy mist
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the balance has a crafting gathering channel

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its pretty substantial from what i remember

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@stable basin

stable basin
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oh would you look at that 👀

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I'm dumb af thanks @heavy mist Dancing_GirlCat

heavy mist
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np

glass trellis
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Hydatos rate of which FATE spawn seem pretty low

lapis lodge
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so this is the power of endgame

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sitting for 3 hours in pf with nobody joining

steady pebble
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this is the power of end-game at the end of a patch cycle

lapis lodge
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I just want to clear GWnoneMeguDed

steady pebble
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a lot of the people who would be interested in doing savage/extreme are either unsubbed and waiting for expac

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or doing other things

lapis lodge
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fug

sturdy shell
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you might get more luck once the restrictions lift in a month or so

quick verge
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not really

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duty complete farm parties are going to be popping for a while

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esp the o12s ones for mounts

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then after everyone farms bis for leveling dungeons in 5.0

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they're gonna go back to eureka/ultimate/erping in limsa

wicked iron
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Generally if it gives mounts. People will run it

lapis lodge
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I hate the pug experience

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wait for an hour for people
someone leaves after 2 wipes
everyone else follows suit

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wait another hour

lapis lodge
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fuck raiding

daring berry
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if it's not practice, it's 3 wipes and disband

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not sure how other DCs do it because that's how the JP DCs do it.

lapis lodge
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it was set to practice

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but we were wiping on the mechanic that wasn't practiced

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didn't even get there

rapid sapphire
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I suspect the Hydatos scaling is just awful (it's good with a fresh instance but as more players join in an instance the more likely it is have to do 120 kills to pop anything at all. same goes with hp scaling for extra fake difficulty)

glossy musk
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HP scaling is needed or we get what happens with hunts

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where it melts in literally 1 gcd

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They're hilarious when like nobody is around though

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dragonfire dived into the bunny fate once when it was literally just me

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almost killed them all

rapid sapphire
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I found it more annoying with bunny fate bullet sponge trash

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I think it also acts on BA once ovni is killed/snapshotted so there's a large possibility of ba being impossible to clear on a full instance unless 48 are inside

errant kayak
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For m/f, what’s needed for the 2nd tank lb3?

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I remember there’s specifications for tank/healer mitigation

quick verge
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have everyone stack for first arrow/meteor

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tank lb3

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should get ~2 lb bars

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survive cosmo memory

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3rd lb bar

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repeat

dull radish
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do not addle or reprisal

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or dismantle for that matter

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HP troubadour probably bad idea too

quick verge
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yeah

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the purpose is to mitigate fatal damage with tank lb3

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and only tank lb3

heavy mist
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zzz why am i doing 11s and 10s every week literally useless

errant kayak
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Ah k

dull radish
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well buff based mitigation and shielding is fine

errant kayak
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No attack mitigation from the tanks essentially

dull radish
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just no debuff-based mitigation or anything that raises HP and makes stuff non-lethal before the LB/shielding

errant kayak
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Ah k

stable basin
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New hobby, shouting Nael quotes to set off people's ACT triggers

quick verge
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that's kinda fucked up

pastel cobalt
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You suffer the effect of Doom.

blazing pelican
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Twintania readies Twister.

quick verge
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From red moon I descend, a hail of stars to bring!

blazing pelican
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Nael confirmed new "Tales of" caster

lyric summit
quick verge
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HOLY FUCK

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lmao

steady pebble
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I think i might punch the person who donated that

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if i was that person

quick verge
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just punch them through the screen

steady pebble
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yes, exactly

quick verge
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Dynamo chariot beam spread spread spread

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this is gold

wet stag
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holy shit

wicked iron
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Amazing

glossy musk
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lmfao

stark oyster
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Do I need to have experienced ucob to understand that video

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I don't get it

uncut charm
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I have no idea whats going on there monkaS

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is that call out broken

heavy mist
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So UCOB has a mechanic where Nael does a mechanic based on what they said text wise. So generally you have ACT call out the mechanic so u dont have to worry too much about what it is

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the TTS is just spamming call outs so the raider cant hear ACT

uncut charm
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why would the TTS do that

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monkaS

stark oyster
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That's dumb

torn kindle
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Because someone trusted donations too much

heavy mist
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^

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Exactly

uncut charm
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F

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but honestly tho

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who would have thought that Nael RP mechanic was good

heavy mist
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its not too bad for like JP

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cause as u know its character based so u can just point out the characters relatively quickly

uncut charm
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as usual, thanks Koji Fox?

heavy mist
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whoever

lyric summit
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it's not that awful after you spend 3 months in there

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i could tell the one during dives before my trigger

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but that's the only one yoshisrsly

steady pebble
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can you really blame koji for that

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when he's not the one who designed the fight boxTHINKING

heavy mist
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whoever did english translation

steady pebble
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Except he's not the one who decided to do rp mechanics boxTHINKING

heavy mist
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its just how they translate it 🤷

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and the nature of english

wet stag
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in jp it's a lot easier to know which mechanics are coming up

steady pebble
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complains about rp mechanic
must be EN translation's fault

heavy mist
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i mean they could literally put

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like words that make it easier to spot out

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not saying its entirely on the english translation team

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they worked with what they were given

uncut charm
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above 2 person gets the point

blazing pelican
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The English version of the quotes lack just enough consistency that you couldn't figure them out on the fly, so you'd either need to memorize them or just use ACT to call it out

idle chasm
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im finally 70 and finished the MC of stormblood, but im lost what i should do, is there a endgame guide pinger or something?

heavy mist
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Keep going through da story

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@idle chasm

heavy mist
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^ thats pretty useful

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has some 4.5 notes as well

idle chasm
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tankyu guys GWcmeisterPeepoLove

glad tapir
lyric summit
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👻

glossy musk
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The main problem with Nael's quotes is that they're all similar, and you have a an extremely short time to properly respond to them. You can memorize them, sure, but why

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When you can just make a trigger

quick verge
glossy musk
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Getting there

quick verge
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why nael so hard

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😡

pastel cobalt
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she angery

heavy mist
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Nael isnt too hard just that people too slow haha

quick verge
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nah i was the one trapping

pastel cobalt
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Does anyone know roughly how much damage O10S autos do?

mighty shale
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i think average hit is 11k?

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all i know is tanks die very slow

quick verge
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11-12k

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yeah

opaque lantern
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You guys think I have a chance to get into the current endgame raids as new player? if so how should I go about it? I have played other mmos like ragnarok online, wow. So I have basic understanding of things. I want to take these months before shadowbringer comes out as learning experience and then start beeing more serious once the new content is out and I learned all the basic stuff.

pastel cobalt
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Thanks guys!

heavy mist
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@opaque lantern u can clear the current tier in time for SHB

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just depends on your luck and patience

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Recommend to get the highest ilevel gear you can get first of all

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since the the first floor minimum ilevel is i380 2nd is i385 and 3rd/4th is i390

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For DPS you want to learn your rotation and be comfortable enough so u can do mechanics at the same time

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Tanks you wanna learn the rotation plus read a bit on the mitigation tools

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Healers, just read the healers guide imo

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More questions just ask here or the balance discord for class specific guides they can provide

fierce chasm
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where is this healer guide

heavy mist
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!faq healerguide

storm frostBOT
heavy mist
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yeah same thing lol

opaque lantern
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Hmm okay thanks. Guess I start off doing pug grps once I have gotten appropiate gear

heavy mist
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yeah pretty much

glossy musk
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Somebody

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rescued the tank

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on AV during the tank buster

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into the raid

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holy shit

quick verge
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impressive

simple sky
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wut

fierce chasm
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auram vale is below 50 tho so no rescue?

glossy musk
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absolute virtue

torn kindle
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Yeah Blue DPS is not a meme at all in BA

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Double Edge + Martialist = bonkers DPS

glossy musk
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Yup

torn kindle
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Tanks are the only classes that can actually pull off double edge due to the damage you take.

glossy musk
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Wondering if you could do an all tank run with double edge and PLD healing. Probably could

torn kindle
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sounds doable, but then you wouldn't have a sleep for the centaurs

stable basin
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Just trade off invulning it ez

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Or get everyone to bust out the fell cleaves lol

heavy mist
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probably better to just have WAR and WHMs

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since WAR + WHM normal DPS < WAR DE dps

glass trellis
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Do you need any weather/time to spwan zuzu in hydatos?

heavy mist
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no

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literally its just a FRICK ton of crystal claws

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@glass trellis

glass trellis
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Ok great

boreal edge
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@torn kindle double edge comes with bloodbath

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or you will die

heavy mist
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or have a healer baby u

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obviously

quick verge
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get the sweet

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mega regen

torn kindle
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I've had many blue DPS who do DE+Martialists

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Once they hit 10+ stacks I generally spam cure 1/2 on them

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They're doing a ton more damage than what I would be doing so I don't mind too much.

glass trellis
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How do I add another secondary stat to eureka weapon?

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instead of replaceing first stat?

lyric summit
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you can't, just keep rolling and accept every roll until you get 5 lines

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all rolls are random, you can't pick and choose secondaries from previous rolls

glass trellis
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And I have to do it on both Sword and Shield

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oof

lyric summit
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at least it's just one crystal per hand, other jobs need 2

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and if you get a good shield roll you can just keep that and get better sword rolls and vice versa

glass trellis
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Farming Pyros light sucks

smoky surge
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!faq tankguide

storm frostBOT
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A Visual Guide to Tank - Beginner Tank Version
lyric summit
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#kupo-bot-spam banned

smoky surge
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Ah im sorry - I didn’t notice there was a channel for that ^^;

hazy lichen
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Just coming back from a long break, haven't touched anything since Anemos. Is Eureka worth the time?

glass trellis
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@hazy lichen Weapon could be worth, it's the grind way to get max iLvL weapon

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armor is pretty much just glamour

lyric summit
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it takes pretty long to catch up the relic to relevant ilvl, i'd say if you have limited time then just settling for a tome weapon is enough, if you have nothing to do or want the weapons for glamour then do it

inland ore
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Has anyone been having problems with logs being invalid when uploading to fflogs lately?

quick verge
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not really

lyric summit
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works fine for me

quick verge
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i really like this game with sound

regal rover
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what a cute tank guide

stable basin
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the 4 stages of tanking - stage 1 you are doing the boss for the first time and you die cauze of excitment. stage 2 - you try to focus but you still die. stage 3 - you almoust kill the boss. and finally stage 4 you manage to kill the boss

opal hollow
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Pretty sure stage 4 is a myth

pastel iron
lyric summit
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you get more from quests in anemos

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so at 3 5 13 and 17? i think?

pastel iron
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hmm i dont have quest anymore, level 3 elemental

lyric summit
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you need to find shinies in the zone

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3 is near the sabotender fate

pastel iron
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sabotender fate?

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shinies?

lyric summit
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on the map, it's the confluence

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the number in the circle is the quest level

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if you interact with krile she should tell you that you should be looking for a confluence or something and she'll give you a general direction, the map has the exact location

pastel iron
lyric summit
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yeah

pastel iron
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isnt that spot strong mob?

wet stag
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YEA

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oops caps

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welcome to eureka

pastel iron
lyric summit
pastel iron
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Im bad at location but is the outside full of skeleton?

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kinda shout many times...

heavy mist
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It's inside the hut/house thing

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@pastel iron

pastel iron
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well i see the house

heavy mist
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Go inside

pastel iron
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but not the same as videp

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video

heavy mist
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Oh hmm

pastel iron
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inside the video there is those bhoots

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around me is skeleton which is where im dead now lol

heavy mist
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Oh u don't see the magicite in there?

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Wait

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Hmm not at comp so can't help ...

white pond
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bhoots spawn at the house during the night, so you need to go in the daytime

pastel iron
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so am i at correct location or not?

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i think ive shout more then 10+

daring berry
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why not just use a map posted online

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that's how i found it

pastel iron
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dont wanna upset japanese player but... no one help

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i did....but im clueless

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nvm found

glossy musk
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It's best to not travel at night if you're trying to do something solo. Undead spawn, and they aggro to touch or blood (loss of HP)

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They despawn during the day

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Also be aware that elemental sprites will aggro to any spells cast

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and some enemies aggro to sight, but some aggro to sound, so running past won't work; you need to walk

quick verge
lyric summit
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how many legends are you getting carried by this time

quick verge
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3 probably

blazing pelican
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Hey that's more pulls of Bahamut than I normally see.

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Pretty sure my raid lead was gonna blow a gasket if people died to Nael again.

pastel iron
steady pebble
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lvl 6+ you can lose xp

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10+ is when you can delevel

pastel iron
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shit, ok bye bye eureka... cant summon companion, cant use mount... wth

steady pebble
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well you can use mount, just not at the start

rigid iris
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I'm buying potions for Anemos solo

pastel iron
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its not helping, i mean, i wonder aimlessly try to find quest location but always dead

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i have mount yet cant use it while others can

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im a summoner so its fine w.o companion however when i wanna switch class? i dont have choco to summon

vital cypress
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0% enrage

quick verge
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on what

vital cypress
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doormega

quick verge
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damn

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unfortunate

plucky raptor
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So when is the next patch for the MSQ supposed to drop?

torn kindle
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Most likely march 26th since that's after Tokyo Fanfest.

plucky raptor
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Oh snap, that's this month?

torn kindle
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yep!

plucky raptor
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Awesome!

rigid iris
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geez i need to take a break from eureka grind

vital cypress
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yay

stable basin
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ayy

quick verge
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wow nice giraffe haha

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how much time left on your instance

vital cypress
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i don't even know

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i think we were 30 seconds before enrage?

steep iris
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grats estelle

vital cypress
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also we have two giraffes

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which statistically means we'll never clear

quick verge
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nope

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clear rate is determined by the amount of legends in your party

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0 legends/ultimate legends mean you have a decent chance

vital cypress
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the best part is

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this is probably my last night with this group playdead

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since i'm jumping to a crystal-based static next week

quick verge
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unfortunate

vital cypress
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thanks yoshida

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(we're also CASUAL TRASH so eh)

glad tapir
pastel iron
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where do you level in eureka anemos at level 10 elemental?

cold ember
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Go after the lv9 wolves

smoky veldt
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do fates

glossy musk
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Get a group and chain farm the lvl 15 enemies and do FATEs when they spawn

errant kayak
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Challenge logs

fading shoal
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is there a place to ask about glamour or should ask here?

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since glamour IS considered the TRUE endgame :S

lyric summit
echo blaze
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hello, i started playing the game recently and had a blast playing samurai so far
i'm only interested into pve hl/vhl and the more i read about ff14 pve the more i feel like i won't have any slot as SAM
so i come here to ask you guys, how hard it is for a sam to find a group to do pve high-end content?

i'm not really willing to play blm, nin or drag =(

thx

lyric summit
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just apply for casual statics until you master the job, casual statics don't care about the job (or at least they shouldn't, if they do it's pretty safe to assume they want to rely on party comp instead of player skill) and more hardcore statics value player skill above party comp and meta jobs

echo blaze
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thanks you for your fast answer

vital cypress
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as a filthy casual, SAM seems like a fairly common pick anyways

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so i don't think you'd have too much trouble

heavy mist
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Sam feels so good to play too :)

vital cypress
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like it has a decent number of parses uploaded on fflogs, right behind SMN and RDM

pastel cobalt
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My group started progging O11S the other day, and I had a question about Chains of Memory. If the two chain-takers start north/south so that the chain covers up the first inner tower, would they have enough time to sprint 90 degrees around the arena, to give the inner people room to take the first tower? Basically, we're thinking that this will take the burden off of the 6 inner people to decide which side to be on, because they can all go to either side, and the 2 chain-takers adjust to give them space.
Do people regularly do this, or is it just about seeing where the first tower will end up based on ferrofluid phase, then sending the chain takers East/West, and the 6 inner people to the side the tower will be on?

heavy mist
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Pugs just do east and west and have the ,6 adjust to North or south

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I believe east and west u have less movement overall too

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Its not too hard to notice north and south for the 6 just needs some practice and you'll be good

dull radish
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yeah you have a long time to determine north/south, and you only need one person confident with the callout and the rest to follow

heavy mist
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@pastel cobalt

dull radish
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you can technically do it so that the group always starts in a static spot, and sometimes the chain people will have to rotate the other direction once depending on pattern

pastel cobalt
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I'll be that one person, gonna confidently kill everyone in the raid DevilThink

dull radish
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but that's really awkward and I've found it prone to more issues

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than just having people go N or S and having a set direction

heavy mist
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And honestly it's early enough into the fight

pastel cobalt
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From a movement perspective like Rider mentioned, I think the normal strategy would have less movement

heavy mist
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Youll learn fast

pastel cobalt
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So that makes sense

prisma shard
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Here's a pic someone made that i snagged awhile back showing how to determine North or south

lyric summit
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far tower on south = start south

heavy mist
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Yeah that pic is good

prisma shard
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I go based on the inner towers, works nice

pastel cobalt
#

That helps a lot, thanks guys!

pastel iron
#

a question, should i go ala mhigan equipment or lost allagan?

dull radish
#

mm well the lost allagan is higher ilvl but generally you'll be looking to pick up the gear from mendacity (ryumaku) for the first big ilvl jump at 70

pastel iron
dull radish
#

all level 70 dungeons and trials will give mendacity and genesis, as well as running roulettes on a level 70 job

cold ember
#

Eureka ia the fastest way to cap genesis for me lol

uncut charm
#

AFK NM at Pyros for light, cap Genesis in a few hour

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Lol

analog wind
#

Is there no faster way of levelling up in Eureka Anemos then by doing the NM Train? I just spent the last hour or more fighting NM and only gained a single level.

cold ember
#

Challenge logs

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Are u doing those too

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And i think lucky potions can give u an exp boost

rapid sapphire
#

pot of harmony is something like 3% xp gain and shuld be combined with food (any food type not raid food)

pastel iron
#

What's pot of harmony?

rapid sapphire
#

!item Potion of Harmony

storm frostBOT
#
**Potion of Harmony** : Medicines & Meals

*This innovative alchemical concoction assists the body in acclimating to Eureka's discordant aetheric environment.

<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Elemental EXP Bonus: +10% <span style="color:#cc22ff;">Duration: 60m (if HQ, 90m)
※Only available for use in the Forbidden Land, Eureka.*

cold ember
#

Its a crafted item u get from lockbox materials

rapid sapphire
#

can also market board it (should be like 1500 a pop or less)

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but if want to self craft it's 1 lizard tail, 1 pagos sage, 1 pagos spring water, and 1 reishi mushroom (alc lv60)

fringe granite
#

If you're at least in Pyros it's easy to get the mats for

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Pagos it's kind of a nightmare

cold ember
#

The mats are less than 50 gil here

analog wind
#

No, I'm not doing Challenge Logs. When asking in Shout inside Eureka, everyone kept telling me NM was the fastest way, and I should just join a train, but it felt like all I was doing was dying constantly, and still wasn't levelling very fast.

torn kindle
#

honestly for the first few levels challenge logs are very good

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like, the 2nd tier of them will give you an entire level

#

I'd say try to find a fairy and make good use of the buff it gives you for damage, experience, and the regen

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NMs just start slowly being better once you're a high enough level because you don't get less EXP from being too low level.

stable basin
#

what is a good WAR weapon I can get if I am not doing Savage?

quick verge
#

relic weapon

rustic lichen
#

@stable basin relic, tomestone or Seiryu weapon

stable basin
#

x_x that's a lot to do XD I am barely in Pagos, but thank you for the responses

wet stag
lyric summit
#

very descriptive

#

I'm on phone I can't see what he's doing

thin vessel
#

love this guy

#

not because its witty and informative, but because it shows that despite being regarded as the most selfish and a noob magnet of a job, it can parse higher than blms by a gap so high it removes multiple 0s until all dps parses referencing samurai will only show 200

quick verge
#

these videos look cursed

#

where do you even find them

lyric summit
#

r/shitpostxiv

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the 2nd one at least

blazing pelican
#

that's possibly the most cursed thing I've tried to watch in ages

#

my ears bleed now

lusty turret
#

the mnk guide

#

quintuple weave lets go

lyric summit
#

that guy is

#

something

wet stag
#

and this and this and that and this and this this that this

quick verge
#

seek Hydaelyn

lyric summit
#

his optimal trick rotation "that he came up with himself and is probably the intended combination" is (no slashing) 3mudra+suiton+trick+duality - aeolian edge - dream+suiton TCJ+kassatsu raiton(+he forgot mug)

#

one gcd trick btw

wet stag
#

hwa

#

what

#

lmao

lyric summit
quick verge
#

it's taken years of research to develop the optimal nin opener which takes centuries of clipping

wet stag
#

holy shit

thin vessel
#

bruh

#

did you say second? wheres the first

blazing pelican
#

AAAAAAA

#

why.

#

I just threw up a little.

coarse radish
#

Don't use mug, stealing is bad

#

:(

thin vessel
#

People that are criminals

#

IM gonna say the M word

#

MUGGERS

lusty turret
#

i like that he is putting effort but what he came up with and spreading is just wrong

finite bough
zinc vortex
#

I broke my will to live.

#

The ultimate endgame.

thin vessel
#

hardest nuke in game

#

POOR

cosmic bramble
#

Now you fail the 90% chance for progress three times in a row.

#

😉

finite bough
#

nah. piece by piece (with steady hand still active) into Observe + Focused Synthesis combo x 3 gets me to finish

#

so that's 100%

pastel iron
#

so if my ilevel equipment is around 358-360...should i do those omega quest?

pastel cobalt
#

Yeah, if you meet the minimum ilvl, you're good to go. The final section has a requirement of 355 for normal mode, so you'll be fine

glossy musk
#

Normal mode raids are easypeasy so no worries

gaunt python
#

Until you see 6 wipes on o11n in a trial roulette and you just abandon cuz you gave up on ppl

cold ember
#

I think more wipes are on 10n lol

gaunt python
#

I've only seen one wipe on o10n so far, which was on the add phase. It was dumb

simple sky
#

O11N is hard cuz people cant read

gaunt python
#

I dont even know what I do in there

#

I just move

analog wind
#

So I've finally reached Pagos. What's the fastest way to level up here? My Eureka Challenge Log is already completed, so I can't rely on that right now.

cold ember
#

Mobs and nms but u cant do nms till at least lv24 ish

#

Beware of sleeping dragons

analog wind
#

Why not before 24?

cold ember
#

Uh the lv20 nm is in lv25 territory

#

The fate u will always see on the map are bunny fates for treasure, doesnt give much exp

analog wind
#

Ah. I'm being taxi'd, so I guess it's not too bad to do NM's.

heavy mist
#

just be lv 21

#

get the first aetheryte

#

And you have access to lv 20 21 22 23 24 25 nm

cold ember
#

Oh i did mine solo

heavy mist
#

lv 23 for the top left

cold ember
#

Not rly fun experience

heavy mist
#

lv 25 for top right

#

and you'll be good

analog wind
#

Also. I've heard that I'm gonna need Light once i hit 35. How bad is the grind for it?

heavy mist
#

u can get light at 25

#

assuming u doing the quests

#

Youll be in pagos for some time, lets say

cold ember
#

The kettle caps at 9

#

Prob more than 10 if u started at 25

analog wind
#

Oof. I think I'm just gonna go back to Anemos and level to 25, then go from there.

torn kindle
#

I wouldn't recommend that. The Pagos NMs give vastly more experience than any NM in Anemos will.

#

Unless you're just talking about the Challenge Log.

#

Even at level 20 or 21 you could just camp the south half of the map and do the 6 NMs that can spawn there.

cold ember
#

Killing a mob inthere gives 10k exp

torn kindle
#

Yeah. Once you unlock the next eureka zone you should go there ASAP unless you still need to finish your weapon.

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only exception being Pagos where you wait until 20 because they ended the Anemos story at 17 for whatever reason

cold ember
#

Yeah its strange i guess they dont want ppl to be frustrated running around without mounts till 20

torn kindle
#

but then they did that for Pagos/Pyros/Hydatos.

cold ember
#

Pagos and pyros are 15 level ups

#

Compared to 20 for the first one

#

Tbf

analog wind
#

Then this isn't working out well. Normal mobs take forever to kill and give a tiny sliver to my experience. NMs are faster, but I can't find someone to safely taxi me around because of Pagos map design, and I can't get around on foot fast enough to keep upbecause of the map design as well. I don't have my Challenge Logs, so my literal best bet is Anemos. @torn kindle

torn kindle
#

F

cold ember
#

It will all get better in hydatos unfortunately

analog wind
#

I just have to get through Pagos and Pyros first. T-T

cold ember
#

Yeah being in a new area with no logs suck

#

I did that for pyros D:

analog wind
#

I'm just gonna go back to Anemos for now and do my best to level up. When next Tuesday rolls around and my Challenge Logs reset, I'll hop back into Pagos at whatever level I'm at and go from there.

cold ember
#

What lv are u?

analog wind
#

21 currently.

cold ember
#

Attuned to the first aetheryte?

analog wind
#

Yeah.

#

That was where my last group dropped me because they were tired with the long taxi rides I required to help out.

cold ember
#

Thats good the 21 and 20 nms are just a few metres from it

analog wind
#

Yeah, but it won't be very fast doing it that way. I'd have to go to the NM, then hope I can find a group just for those NMs.

cold ember
#

Oh yeah pagos is super ez with logs cos sprites of almost every level and ashkin spawns there

analog wind
#

Well, I can also just find a group doing Challenge Logs and go from there. If I gain levels like I did in Anemos doing the logs, then I'll get to a high level pretty quickly.

steep iris
#

@quick verge does this make you die inside

boreal edge
#

tfw elitist legend is drifting requiscat

#

i thought legends can carry 7 ppl

quick verge
#

@steep iris natural drift

steep iris
#

Nah i held req for a couple of combos cause i forgot it's up

heavy mist
#

Same

#

Honestly surprised how much DPS a PLD/WAR/DRK can put out. Just randomly see the 5k+ dps 👀

boreal edge
#

@heavy mist

#

o11s

heavy mist
#

yes i know

#

i just dont play tank enough

boreal edge
#

describe i dont play tank enough

heavy mist
#

🤔 meaning i dont play enough tank in Savage 2think

#

i was just surprised that i could do similar ish DPS until the pugs start going crazy haha

quick verge
#

slashing.jpg

quick verge
#

so uh

#

you could've used requiescat on orb

#

and not have lost a usage

#

some other shit idk

#

let me turn on my computer

analog wind
#

So I'm curious. Does the Eureka weapon change appearance much from the one I got in Anemos?

steady pebble
#

yes

#

Anemos to Pagos is just glow addition/change pagos to pyros is model change then pyros to hydatos is second model change

analog wind
#

Cool. Just figured I'd check before I get too invested into Pagos. Not that I can do Pagos right now anyway. Too low level. No Challenge Log. I'm stuck. T-T

steady pebble
#

gamerescape has images of each step

analog wind
#

How hard will it be to get the final Hydatos weapon before Shadowbringer? I mostly want it for the Glamour.

glossy musk
#

Not hard

#

Pyros and Hydatos you can level to max in a few hours through reflect farming

#

The only time sink is NM spawns and some light grinding

analog wind
#

So my main hump in the road in Pagos then.

glossy musk
#

Yeah

analog wind
#

Fun.

#

Hopefully I can get lucky and find someone who can taxi me around between NMs. Anemos does seem too slow to level up properly after 20.

glossy musk
#

Yeah it’s not intended for 20+

analog wind
#

Unfortunately, without my Challenge Log, neither is Pagos. 😄

zinc vortex
#

congrats rooClap

boreal edge
#

ty

steep iris
#

Grats

round ridge
lyric summit
#

ok

glossy musk
#

GJ

#

And yeah if someone says DPS in I just leave

#

There’s absolutely no reason to not use line strat or AT LEAST dps out

simple sky
#

never done dps in but seems dumb af

#

just asking for people to get killed

glossy musk
#

DPS in is just a huge waste of uptime

lyric summit
#

i just do whatever people want cause i'm ranged and don't care as long as it gets everyone through the mechanic

#

public campaigns against dps in were probably a better meme when the tier wasn't about to unlock in 2 weeks tho

heavy mist
#

DPS in early in the tier tho 😃

pastel cobalt
#

Thank you for the reminder, have a nice day

glossy musk
#

Thing is that there is literally no possible gain from DPS in

#

Not a single one

#

So there’s no reason to ever use it at any point in the tier

#

Ever.

heavy mist
#

there was

#

when people were idiots

#

👀

glossy musk
#

DPS out requires less movement and is less dangerous than in

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So less DPS, more movement, more chance for error

lyric summit
#

it's the first strat that comes to mind in blind prog when you're trying to figure out a way to resolve all the debuffs, cause no one's thinking of uptime strats at that point

#

and then most groups just stick to their strats that work

#

even if they're dumb

heavy mist
#

yeh like im not arguing DPS out is worse

lyric summit
#

i subbed for like 3-4 groups that were doing chain of memory clockwise-clockwise-counterclockwise cause it's a blm uptime strat and they're used to it, despite being overly complicated when the blm is subbed out

heavy mist
#

just that people do what they can for clear and it just happens that dps in was also a viable solution

#

without thinking of optimization 🤔

dull radish
#

I've never heard of an uptime strat for BLM for level checker before

#

Because you get full uptime with regular strat haha

lyric summit
#

leaves one of the quadrants clear for both 2nd and 3rd stacks or something

#

i dunno

inland ore
#

My old static used that strat when we were first progging it.

#

I think they ended up changing it because it was too confusing for pugs.

dull radish
#

You can casually move your way along with zero loss haha, plus triple and sharp come up later so those are extra trivial

inland ore
#

Mhm. I think the people coming up with the strats were just having fun trying to think of how to make it as efficient as possible in terms of movement.

dull radish
#

Don't really see the point in the end though haha

#

It shouldn't really be costing anyone uptime any which way

#

Particularly BLM with when triple comes up there

thorn bear
#

Static original strats are always a pain to teach to pugs

#

doing o12s with a sub is really shit since we have a different HW strat

rustic lichen
#

Yeah, it's the curse when ya gotta sub

quick verge
#

bahamut hurts so much

lusty turret
#

flatten with dark mind thinkaboutit

quick verge
#

wtb> dark mind cross class

gaunt python
#

wtb>fell cleave cross class

quick verge
#

my group wants me to hallowed the flatten after fellruin

#

but gigaflare + autos + flare breath

#

hurts

lusty turret
#

if you hallowed that i dont think it would be back up in time for golden would it

#

nvm just checked logs, it would be actually

quick verge
#

yeah

lyric summit
#

just get apoc

lusty turret
#

apoc the flatten pogslide

quick verge
#

apoc there wouldn't be worth

#

and it wouldn't even be up

#

since i get apoc when covering the triple flare breaths before fellruin

ivory isle
#

intreasting question is it better to use the coins from thew allance raid to go from a 360 to 370 wepon (the bard 380 wep is optimized prity badly) or 390 to 400 ilvl ring. I am thinking wepon

lyric summit
#

definitely weapon

#

or just. both

#

only the i400 coin is capped

#

the other two aren't

#

just do ridorana and rabanastre twice, and one orbonne

ivory isle
#

gata see if there is a altermnate bow for bards for w/e reasson the ilvl 370 it way better stat wise than the 380 one. that lose of direct hit is rather sily

lyric summit
#

there's a priority pinned in the balance bard channel

#

but not sure if it goes down all the way to 370

ivory isle
#

!iam <primal> <eath> <demon>

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

Character cannot be found on the lodestone. Please try using !iamid (use !help iamid for more information) if there are further issues, Kupo!

lyric summit
#

without the <, and in #kupo-bot-spam

#

and primal isn't a server

ivory isle
#

sory about that

twin citrus
#

Damn. Day late and a dollar short to the juicy line strat reminder discussions.

vital cypress
#

oops i triggered some people

heavy mist
#

woops

vital cypress
#

i wish this was web 1.0 that I could helldump on people

#

but i'm guessing that's frowned upon

glass trellis
#

Does DRK antimagic cape work against snakeboss blue ball tank swap nuke?

rapid sapphire
#

I know infirm soul is magic based, I don't know what damage Cursekeeper does (apart from being based off damage taken)

heavy mist
#

Should do magic

wet stag
#

Yeah it's magic

fading shoal
#

so how worth it is it to delevel to 49 from 50 in pyros to reflect light farm?
if i wanna get a weapon from eureka fast

thorn bear
#

if you don't want stats then don't do it

fading shoal
#

i'm already at the point where i need to light farm so ofc i'm doing it cuz i need stats

quick verge
#

if you're 50 then sure

#

cause it doesn't take much to level back from 49

fading shoal
#

should i lower my xp a bit on 49 as well so i dont level back up to 50 too fast?

lusty turret
#

you will want to chain a lot on 49 so no point in doing that cause you would break the chain, but chaining to 30 with light farm will boost you higher than lvl 50

boreal edge
#

@fading shoal u need to die 3 times

#

to not 50 fast

fading shoal
#

yep got it by now but thx anyway

boreal edge
#

it takes 3 chains to get back to 50

#

assuming u did do challenge log

#

you will get 50 soo fast

#

that you will hate it

stark cosmos
#

squirtyay anyone would like do o1s with me on the sever malboro?

#

Just started the omega yesterday

wet stag
#

o1s is pretty dead man

#

ur better off starting with o9s

stark cosmos
#

i am not ilv380 gear yet

lyric summit
#

well, running old content that drops i340 gear won't help

#

get genesis gear, alphascape drops, orbonne drops, crafted gear

#

and try some o9s practice parties

stark cosmos
#

👌

#

right now i am at 372

lyric summit
#

or suzaku/seiryu ex, that's harder than story mode omega but less difficult that savage

wet stag
#

you only need 370 to do o9s

stark cosmos
#

👌all rite thanks

icy trench
#

im 371 ilvl should i just grind alpha v4 for gear?

lyric summit
#

v4 only drops tokens for the chest pants and gloves i think?

#

if you want the full set then you'll have to do all floors

rapid sapphire
#

yeah (and weekly token until lock is removed maybe in final sb msq patch 4.56). since that's 380 stuff might be worth also getting body/leg from monastary if can stand cid's erp edgelord voice acting lines

quick verge
#

😔

errant kayak
#

why do casters want S when there's clearly a nin in the party smh

desert trench
#

South means they don't have to move at all for clock positional mechanics and no matter where the boss goes, they'll always be in the correct spot

#

ninja doesn't have to be south for anything but the occasional positional which in a pinch can be fenagled with true north OhISippyn

#

always be casting is very powerful

errant kayak
#

valid point

#

still mildly pissed i was given W

desert trench
#

to be fair you only have to be W for a brief amount of time in most fights

#

especially in like, o11s you only have to be there for like a total of 20 seconds in the entire fight EmiinWoah

#

you should take southwest so you can retain either positional with only a flick of your position worryDumbSmart2

errant kayak
#

was o11s, it's more i don't have to use true north during flamethrower and save it for panto

desert trench
#

ask for sw/se Alpha

errant kayak
#

usually do, but it didn't matter much anyways

desert trench
#

ye

errant kayak
#

people kept dying to star/lar and somehow flamethrower so I'd did what anyone would do

#

it do be like that

#

bless the reduced true north cd though

#

now reduce it to 60

boreal edge
#

might as well remove positionals

#

than lower the cd

worldly stag
#

Lol

graceful trellis
#

i wonder what they mean by saying they adding endgame for crafters in shadowbringers

hybrid rapids
#

ishgard building

sturdy shell
#

i'm betting that'll be tied to the diadem 'revival'

lyric summit
#

oh jesus, gross

latent temple
#

We get to build our own Eureka

echo blaze
#

ok so mh as a SAM what's my stats priority ? reach 1633sks for the dps rotation then dump everything in crit?

gaunt python
#

there are different sks tiers but in general you just meld crit then dh/det

echo blaze
#

det? blobstare

lyric summit
#

it's good, it affects dots iirc, and the sam dot is a big part of your damage

echo blaze
#

oki

gaunt python
#

determination

lyric summit
#

it's low priority but it's not a bad stat

gaunt python
#

sam just takes any stat tbh

#

but yea focus on the sks tier you want then meld crit and dh/det

echo blaze
#

you got a link to know those sks tier?

dull radish
#

every stat is tiered, not just sks--here's a doc for them

#

!faq stats

storm frostBOT
lyric summit
#

747-964, 965-1633, 1634+

#

1sen 3sen 2sen openers

#

not 1sen idk samurai

echo blaze
#

above 1633sks i need to switch to 2sen opener? oh ok

lyric summit
#

looks like it yeah

echo blaze
#

oki

lyric summit
heavy mist
#

Or fast 3 sen

gaunt python
#

this is from the sam questions pin o.o

lyric summit
#

just post a balance invite yoshiglasses

#

join the samurai channels in role selection and read up on the pins, lots of optimization resources and faqs

gaunt python
#

^

echo blaze
#

thanks blobaww

dull radish
#

plus, folks who play SAM a good deal able to precisely answer questions, too~

lyric summit
#

i'm gonna delete the wall if you don't mind

gaunt python
#

yea i recommend asking valynne or liz

#

sure

echo blaze
#

tyvm guys blobaww

errant kayak
#

aita for leaving final prog pugs if we don't get past m/f within 40ish minutes

#

or should i lower my expectations?

quick verge
#

probably not

errant kayak
#

I feel half shitty sometimes for leaving quickly, but if people are constantly dying to numbers and shield

#

Eh, I feel conflicted really

wet stag
#

dont

#

if theyre wiping that hard to mf

#

theyre not gonna get to final

errant kayak
#

Mmk

#

Wanna finish this tier soon soulsurrender

pastel iron
#

a question about upgrading rakshasha equipment

#

where do you get the 2nd material?

simple sky
#

buy it from the tomestone vendor

#

100 mendacity for 1 doman reiyaku

torn prairie
#

Is the iLvl 400 Omega/Scaevan gear better than the 390 Elemental gear?

dull radish
#

many pieces will be, some won't be

#

depends on the job and build

#

what job do you play?

pastel iron
#

thanks @simple sky

torn prairie
#

WHM

#

I have no idea what materia to use

pastel cobalt
#

Piety to comfort > Crit > Determination/Direct Hit

dull radish
#

I know folks were working on a BiS potentially using the 390 eureka stuff but I haven't seen one finalized and posted yet

#

but yeah, follow that rough priority for materia, for sure^

lusty turret
#

dont meld direct hit on a healer unless you go for meme dps output

torn prairie
#

So I could go without any Piety, I guess.

pastel cobalt
#

Direct hit is fine on healers. It gives slightly more damage than Det, Det gives slightly more healing. In both cases, the difference between the two is very small.

pastel iron
#

so i can buy only yama grimoire atm, what should i put materia in 1st?

wet stag
#

crit

lusty turret
#

what was ist, approximately a dps increase by 0.5% for a 3% loss of healing or smth

wet stag
#

i know the yama grimoire is something gross like det sks

lusty turret
#

i meld dh myself, but i go for the dps, which you shouldnt do if you arent comfortable to a high level with the healing

#

but ye, if you are happy with where your piety is, the most important stat will be crit

dull radish
#

also can consider a bit of sps if it suits your fancy, don't go all out with it, but bit speedy WHM is still cozy WHM

#

though adjusting piety is also a note when considering running at different sps, as well

pastel iron
#

det sks?

wet stag
#

meld crit

#

since the grimoire has det sks on it

lusty turret
#

just checked stats on the elemental +2 gear

#

the pants, those will be strong on a healer. for the other pieces without doing any calculations, you are probably better off with the 400 pieces from savage/genesis

dull radish
#

(genesis, not creation)

#

better <3

lusty turret
#

ty =w=

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but if you want specific numbers you probably need to go to the balance discord, the whm people are really nice whmlove

dull radish
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big Levi fan

lusty turret
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same

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she doesn't know though

echo blaze
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how much dps i need to deal in order to not being kicked out of o9s-12s?

wet stag
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as what job

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and what weapon

echo blaze
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sam

wet stag
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like 6k

echo blaze
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380

wet stag
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6.5k

echo blaze
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oki

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ty

blazing pelican
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should definitely be trying to do 6.5k or higher. 7k is average for samurai clearing O9S.

wet stag
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380 weapon

blazing pelican
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Oh, sorry. That's the current average. Things get skewed towards the end. 6.5k was average dps when the fight came out.

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Why 380 tho. Go kill the snek a few times.

rapid sapphire
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if it's crafted 380 can augment it too since that's basically free

glossy musk
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@steep iris In the time it takes them to decide to slowly poke their head in the door we could have killed the entire room

steep iris
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yep

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i think this is a trap run

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we had a couple people die to art

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👀

glossy musk
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Oh jesus

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Our side was good at least

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died before he jumped

glossy musk
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Holy shit I'm dying of old age

steep iris
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lol

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my war

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is doing bloodbath+double edge

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and pld doesn't wanna mt

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

glossy musk
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"reclear"

hazy lichen
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commercial survival manual II when

icy trench
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is DRK ok to use for end game content and does it have any advantages over PLD/WAR?

I started 3 weeks ago and am about the hit i380. I don't know enough about the game to make comparisons between the tank classes. After i380 I assume savage raids are next on the to do list and I want to be prepared.

wraith spire
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technically all tanks are valuable at endgame unless you are world first or totally hardcore

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play what you're best at and enjoy

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it's really just best for dungeons but it can be taken to raids

vital cypress
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if you want world first you need to bring a

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DRK

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not really but the first UCOB clear having a DRK in it, at the height of THIS JOB IS WORTHLESS, was probably the funniest thing this game has ever spawned

wraith spire
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lol

vital cypress
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doubly so when every theorycrafter started ripping the job and the fight apart trying to figure out what weird gimmick the player had stumbled upon, then he was like "I like DRK, it's fun"

wraith spire
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lol

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so yeah if you find something fun you'll be better at the job then forcing to go so called "meta"

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as long as you don't take more then 1 of the same job its all good

icy trench
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hmm ok thanks.

wraith spire
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(as that slows down the LB)

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yw

gaunt python
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Plus you're bound to play better on a job you like in comparison to one you hate

desert trench
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@icy trench Dark Knight is specifically a good tank with regards to self-mitigation and magic-mitigation. DPS wise it is near Warrior atm, above Paladin

wraith spire
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pld blocks magic now too

desert trench
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No tank is specifically a detriment, each has weaknesses, each has strengths

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I'm aware PLD blocks magic now too

wraith spire
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👍

desert trench
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DRK still does it better

gaunt python
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Magic tbs are just tickles for drk paissasquint

desert trench
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laughs in DarkMind

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doubly so when every theorycrafter started ripping the job and the fight apart trying to figure out what weird gimmick the player had stumbled upon, then he was like "I like DRK, it's fun"``` This was mentioned in an interview with Famitsu iirc, not theorycrafters
vital cypress
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i mean this was two separate things

desert trench
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the TC community figured DRK would be in the world first and didn't care OhISippyn

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the TC/World Prog community is quite aware of the prog strengths of DRK and why it's useful in raids such as UCOB/UWU

vital cypress
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oh yeah

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the really high-level people weren't particularly weirded out, but it threw a lot of semi-hardcore people for a loop

desert trench
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it threw the meta chasers off sure

heavy mist
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TC?

wet stag
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theorycrafting

icy trench
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does it matter which server I am in if i want to find raid parties? I was looking it up and certain servers were known for raiding? Is that not the case anymore because the party finder uses the data center? I'm not sure if it always has or not. really new to the game

wet stag
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yeah raiding uses the datacentre

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you can put up a cross world pf

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the "raiding servers" thing was really only a thing before cross world pf

icy trench
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alright thanks.

leaden obsidian
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"Raiding server" would presumably still matter if you want to join a linkshell or free company related to raiding

summer moss
desert trench
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only reason would be not both tanks on the left

blazing pelican
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Looks like there wasn't 2 people on the monitor side. If there's not 2 people then it picks someone at random.

desert trench
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it randomly chooses appropriste targets

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if there ain't two dudes on the side, it randomly chooses someone else

cold ember
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I think its proximity based?

summer moss
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Other people have also said it's cause our warrior was being a dummy so we'll go with that 👍

stable basin
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100% that

twin citrus
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I mean, your WAR wasn't on the monitor side it looks like.

desert trench
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monitors are not proximity, it just randomly picks 2 targets that are on the correct side

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or in the video above, it randomly picked the other one bloblul

icy trench
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can someone explain to me seiryu ex double tank swap

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I am off tank and am supposed to be absorbing both tank buster moves

heavy mist
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were u just in a party

icy trench
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yes lol

heavy mist
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Did u have a scythe

icy trench
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yes dont kill me

heavy mist
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lol

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Anyways

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During the cast of Cursekeeper you provoke, they shirk you

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Take the tank buster

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WAIT

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The other tank provokes during the next cursekeeper cast and you shirk him

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and tanks that and keeps it

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Thats how it works

icy trench
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how long does the cursekeeper debuff last?

heavy mist
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just dont worry about it

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i dont know the exact time, but as long as u dont tank the tank buster with the cursekeeper debuff

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and its okay to hold the boss

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cause the other tank will take it back in time

icy trench
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it makes sense if only one person can hold cursekeeper at a time. the way that I was looking at it, is that since the first tank took the debuff it would remain on him even during the next cycle.. or be applied to us both since I took it.. so i thought I was supposed to take both tb and other tank takes both debuff

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ehh.. im stupid

heavy mist
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its ok

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Generally u wanna shirk someone after they provoke

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if they are going to take it back

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If you know that a tank swap isnt coming up in the next 2 minutes

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its okay to provoke the boss and shirk the tank for more enmity

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have u looked at these for tanking? So You Want to Be a Hero - Beginner's Guide - https://goo.gl/tJokMp
Same style guide but with more information! - https://goo.gl/nYzAnq
Basic tanking infographic - https://i.imgur.com/ux8nQyc.png

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Nice to read to get some insight on your abilties

icy trench
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reading it now thanks

desert trench
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@icy trench if you have any questions i am literally the author of that

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two of those guides

icy trench
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oh wow lol, thanks and will let you know if i have any

desert trench
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actually

icy trench
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i am so tired, i'm going to get some rest and then read all of this so I don't forget it after sleeping 😅

glass trellis
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is OS on instance or loot lockout?

desert trench
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Omega Savage? still on weekly lockout

icy trench
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@desert trench do i want crit or dh melds? i have dh in my left side

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drk btw

wet stag
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str in accessories, crit where you can meld crit, dh otherwise

desert trench
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^

fading shoal
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what are soem good places to reflect farm for levels at lvl 57 in hydatos?

wet stag
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sprite island

fading shoal
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which is where exactly?

half pivot
stable basin
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oi is getting lost allagan stuff on an alt class worth it while gathering mend and genesis? I max centurios fast

torn kindle
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Ehh, not really.

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Maybe just to replace your weapon since that’s expensive to get with tomestones

stable basin
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lol I'm gonna do it anyway for the glam xD

icy trench
desert trench
icy trench
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any tips on making gil? not looking to get rich quick. Would like something I'd have to work towards

cold ember
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One way to start is to limit ur spending .

latent temple
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First thing I would say is get a retainer and check to see if anything in your inventory is worth some cash on MB

lyric summit
green quarry
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hello all

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i need help

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how to defeat charibert and i have like 10 knights on me and it klled all my help and i cant kill cause it kept getting healed and also her i cant seems to kill her off cause of her hp is not dropping

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this quest looks impossible to do and also this quest is equal to my lvl which is 59