endgame-lounge

[quick verge]

good shit

[valid gate]

hey primal is what it is

[coral ingot]

20 seconds before the pull.

[valid gate]

what can you do

[quick verge]

trap with scholars that you can murder

[simple sky]

yell at them

[valid gate]

now i just play phone games and sleep after work so i can buy more gacha

[simple sky]

"but muh quickcast CD"

actually they don't even need to quickcast it lel

[coral ingot]

Half my kingdom for more quartz!

[valid gate]

i actually don't need quartz rn i need fucking exp cards

[quick verge]

and Hello World is yikes in general

either you get latent and slidecast to your defamation spot

[valid gate]

i had to ride a friend's mordred for heracles and forneus

[coral ingot]

Wait, you can even not need exp cards?

[quick verge]

or you get defamation and lose a gcd in FoF

[valid gate]

because there was no way i was ever coming close to having the damage to clear those battles otherwise

200k heracles was a yikes and forneus/medea was just way too much hp to burn through

[coral ingot]

IIRC I went in Okeanos after Onigashima, so I had Kintoki for Forneus and his drift memes.

[valid gate]

it doesn't help that i have the most useless gold saber in the game so i have to rely on friends for dps

[coral ingot]

Heracles was a nightmare.

Pretty sure all gold sabers are good in their niches.

[valid gate]

yeah ive only been playing 5 days i don't have any 5s yet

yeah that's what you think until you have to do anything relevant with siegfried

[coral ingot]

Neither did I, back then. I meant Rider Kintoki.

Siegfried is awesome. Solo'd Goddess Rhongomyniad with him.

[valid gate]

legit needs to be ascended to do his job in any capacity

[coral ingot]

Yeah, without his 3rd skill, he's just a weak aoe Saber.

Siegfried in Orleans was lul.

[valid gate]

like im not going to burn him since he has a useful niche but he does fuckall as an all purpose dps

[coral ingot]

I was legit happy when I got spooked by him rolling for Musashi.

[valid gate]

i really wanted to pull servants i like and invest in them but nitocris is shit for most bosses and tristan is a support so i probably just have to bite the bullet and cap my hans

[coral ingot]

Overall, it's a good idea to ignore golds and focus on bronze and silver servants first.

[valid gate]

ill decide on Friday after i buy like 150 usd of sq

[coral ingot]

That's hell you're walking into.

[valid gate]

if i don't get anything good ill sure as hell have enough to burn to dump exp on the cheap tier 1s

yeah don't be me

don't smoke and also play phone games

at least pick one or the other

[coral ingot]

Gacha is my only real vice anyway. Well, gacha and stuff with sugar in it.

[valid gate]

i actually am going to hate this week because i have no money for fast food

[coral ingot]

Cook stuff at home.

[valid gate]

which fucking sucks because i work night shift and fast food is the only thing that i can get at 1030 pm

i could theoretically just oven something when i get home but it's also 1030 and i want to go to bed

[coral ingot]

I usually just cook stuff between shifts. Or did when I worked, went back to college now.

[valid gate]

i would honestly kill for amakusa

husbando please

answer my rolls

[noble geode]

This is true end-game

[bold jungle]

I just reached lvl 70 and finished the storym now I need 300 ilvl before I can continue with the patch story... Fastest way to do it?

[fathom lake]

Mendacity tomes I guess

Finish your class quests

And then do your highest dungeon for tomes

[bold jungle]

I did the class quests, but it's only 290

So I think I'll grind Shinryu and Ala Mhigo xD

[glass trellis]

Is there a difference to Fate train and light farm in pagos?

[lyric summit]

light farms usually chain dragons or just high level mobs and dragons on specific chain numbers

and you have to do stuff, not just afk like in a fate train

[lyric summit]

bruh

[quick verge]

🅱ruh moment

[heavy mist]

More like use pots better

😦

[lyric summit]

tank death

[heavy mist]

Early tho?

[lyric summit]

yeah

like 1st exa

[heavy mist]

Then truly feelsbad

[quick verge]

ape

[heavy mist]

But understandable if u guys going for clear

Golden bahamut makes u anxious af

👀

[lyric summit]

exaflare practice party

[glossy musk]

What the hell happened on some of those pulls lol

[lyric summit]

usual stuff

[glossy musk]

41 seconds

[lyric summit]

can't expect golden pulls 100% of the times

[glossy musk]

[quick verge]

the usual trapping

did you die to twisters or hatch

[lyric summit]

why not both

[quick verge]

ん工匚乇

[steep iris]

at least you can get to golden

i keep griefing my static

[hybrid rapids]

chicken nugget

your group is pretty constant reaching golden tho

[lyric summit]

unicorn session

day before we got to normal bahamut like 3 times in 2 hours

[steep iris]

we didn't get to golden today

feelsbadman

[wet stag]

@hybrid rapids my uwu comp is cursed

[hybrid rapids]

Do you have a blu?

[steep iris]

LOL

[wet stag]

Lmao

Brd mch nin smn

[hybrid rapids]

Rip healers adjust

Raise mage

Actually 3 far is good

MCH can mitigate damage too

[wet stag]

No piercing tho

[hybrid rapids]

And good refresh x 2

[inland ore]

Mch/brd/caster is comfy.

[hybrid rapids]

Ye...it would be good with a DRG instead of NIN

But 3 rangers is good for uwu tbh

[inland ore]

Would be a good comp if nin was a drg.

[wet stag]

Yea

[hybrid rapids]

Not so bad

8/10 if I can give a rate

Healers won’t dry of MP

Good for practice

[wet stag]

Yeah but like

We're struggling with ifrit enrage lmao

[steep iris]

all that mana

[hybrid rapids]

lmao

Ifrit should be easiest

Good luck is all I can say

[steep iris]

ifrit is the hardest check i thought

of all 3 primals

[hybrid rapids]

Ifrit is a paper

[steep iris]

also do you have nin just for slashing?

[hybrid rapids]

You have a lot free time to hit

[steep iris]

if not get nin to switch :D

[hybrid rapids]

Don’t hesitate to LB ifrit too

[steep iris]

inb4 drk/pld

[hybrid rapids]

It’s more important reaching titan

[wet stag]

Nin bc he can't play drg

[steep iris]

titan is first time u get there

[wet stag]

We have war/drk

[inland ore]

We have sam/drg/brd/smn, with sam as the only slashing source.

Ifrit nails are all mine~

[wet stag]

We actually

[steep iris]

big pad

[wet stag]

Got to gaols last night

On the 1st pull

Then never again

[inland ore]

Regression pulls?

[steep iris]

how many people survived upheaval

i know i died to it a lot

LOL

[wet stag]

Uhhhh

Everyone except me I think lmao

[steep iris]

Powerful

[hybrid rapids]

Powerful fc mate Faye

My group stuck on Titan more on ultima

Because we don’t cheat

It’s hard to make it consistent

[wet stag]

Im also missing 1 weapon damage lmao

[hybrid rapids]

Not using eureka weapon?

Powerful BiS

[wet stag]

I'm trying to get it lmao

Still need 10 more pagos light

Oh NVM me and one other guy died to upheaval

[hybrid rapids]

LOL

[wet stag]

I already have my pyros crystals set

Just need to finish up pagos

[hybrid rapids]

Living dead instead

[wet stag]

It's on CD lol

[hybrid rapids]

People were tank LB3 upheaval

You can survive with tank LB3 I think

Unless you fallen down or eating overlaps rock aoe

[wet stag]

We're probably alrd using lb3 for ifrit xd

[hybrid rapids]

Sad

LB3 only can cater either

Haha

Good luck on your prog

[wet stag]

Thank

[valid gate]

Because we don’t cheat triggers aren't cheating

[heavy mist]

Respect the content

[quick verge]

no

[hybrid rapids]

not sure why you get triggered

it was literally meant no cheat as in titan gaol

and we didn't use trigger too

the only time i did use trigger was ucob

nael text is terrible

[quick verge]

wow i can't believe

tsun is a cheater

[pastel cobalt]

Twintania readies Twister.

[hybrid rapids]

twister is fixed mechanic tho

[valid gate]

yes

that is the point

calling triggers cheating on titan gaol is the same as calling it for nael text

it's just a tedious thing to unecessarily waste time on

[hybrid rapids]

i don't think there's guide to teach how to make one on first few week

😔

we just try harder

[zinc vortex]

i use triggers because im lazy and cba to do the same mechanics after 10 weeks of farm

turning my brain off and letting act play the game for me it is

[glossy musk]

Pagos light is easy to get with the dragon into bunny FATE way

[sage totem]

@hybrid rapids didn't they fix the cheat way of doing it?

[heavy mist]

for titan gaols?

[sage totem]

Yeah

[heavy mist]

idk o.o

[sage totem]

My UWU group mentioned it was fixed

[torn kindle]

:o?

[wet stag]

um no lol

it still works

[heavy mist]

feel like it should lol

havent checked in a while

[wet stag]

yeah theres no way it'll stop working

[stable basin]

Can confirm it still works

[wet stag]

since the game needs to display the markers over the correct people

and the lines in the network data that does that is what the trigger looks out for

[glossy musk]

Yeah still works

[hearty agate]

Bard? Useful at 70's? I'm asking you guys

[heavy mist]

yes

very

[hearty agate]

I had my doubts when I tried him, but then again <50 of every class seems daunting to play

[stable basin]

You can play songs while your group makes you potions and your DRG edits their macro to give you tether

It's the best Job in the game tbh

[heavy mist]

yeah some classes just get better at 70 with a complete kit

RDM plays pretty similar at 50 and 70

with a couple addons

MNK i believe in the core is similar from p early, but deals with the final buff it gets at 70

[hearty agate]

But wasn't Bard the least DPSy out of all of them?

[heavy mist]

what do u mean DPSy

@hearty agate

[hearty agate]

You know... Damage numbers of bard

[heavy mist]

i mean its pretty good 🤔

You might not see the insane high personal dps numbers of SAM/BLM

but your overall rdps contribution is pretty high

[sharp hawk]

Can I ask an o12s question here?

[heavy mist]

yeah, somebody should help depending on they are on

[sharp hawk]

Archive All

[heavy mist]

if*

[sharp hawk]

Is the boss garunteed to jump on the north half of the Arena?

[cold ember]

Nope he will turn sometimes

Safe spot is 1 of the fists behind him

[hybrid rapids]

@sage totem it’s still working afaik

[stark oyster]

Is alphascape series hard for a newbish tank?

[lyric summit]

normal mode? not really

[stark oyster]

Hmm ok

I looked at the videos and the off tank only had to take a tether off

[rapid sapphire]

alpha nm is mostly knowing the tankbuster names and some details (like positioning chaos in prep for mechanics, or when to deliberately do something silly like taking the stack marker in 10 solo + hallowed)

[loud mesa]

For Raksasha Tank accessories, how do yall meld them? 5* Strength VI's?

[quick verge]

you cant meld mainstats past the first slot

so str VI in the first one

[loud mesa]

can't?

[quick verge]

then uh

which tank do you play

[loud mesa]

Paladin.

[quick verge]

dh in rings

str VI
DH VI
DH V x 3

same in neck

[loud mesa]

Why V's?

[quick verge]

because you can't meld more VIs

[loud mesa]

Is it like a 0% listed success rate or something?

[quick verge]

sure

[loud mesa]

I see.

[quick verge]

if you play war then you meld det instead

[stark oyster]

Can someone tell me if Ultima in Orbonne get more damage as battle goes on?

[uncut charm]

No

[stark oyster]

@uncut charm I got one shot last night 😦

I was tanking her fine, saw her casting redemption so I had rampart up

Then she blasted through my 80k life

[uncut charm]

What hit you

[stark oyster]

Redemption

Her tank buster

[uncut charm]

Did you have like vul stacks

[stark oyster]

1

[steady pebble]

probably needed more than rampart for that then

[stark oyster]

Got hit by a beam

Oh ok

Godamnit

I thought I was able to tank through that

Inner Beast + Rampart then?

[uncut charm]

80k after rampart with 1 vul stack seems weird tho

[stark oyster]

Yeah I was like wut

I died instantly

I was at full life

I was 100% sure of it too

[cold ember]

When did u rampart

[stark oyster]

When the cast started

Wait is that not enough

I've been doing that and it seems fine

I know redemption has a cast time and it's the only tank buster that really hurts

I am guessing it's just the 1 vuln stack

[uncut charm]

I cant be sure but I don't think casual content tank busters hit that hard...

[cold ember]

Im not sure whats the pure umitigated damage of redemption but ive seen it do 72k

[uncut charm]

Maybe you lagged and rampart did not register

Then again I have never tanked ultima

[stark oyster]

Hmmm

Do crits do a lot of damage

Can Ultima even crit

[quick verge]

tank busters that crit will crit 100% of the time unless you use awareness

[stark oyster]

I mean if that skill can do 72k damage I guess it's possible to do 80k with 1 stack debuff

[quick verge]

or

you use raw int and turn around

[stark oyster]

@quick verge I don't think ultima has a 100% crit move

[uncut charm]

I mean

It is 1 vul

It should not add much

Even if 1 stack is 20% more

72k x 1.2 x 0.8 is like 69k

[cold ember]

Well ive seen tanks getting deleted on one of the busters many times

[heavy mist]

probably cause no CDs used

[uncut charm]

Almost sure no CD used

[stark oyster]

Does Rampart not mitigate the damage?

[heavy mist]

it should

i havent tanked ultima myself

cause 1 tank always gets aggro

so

[stark oyster]

Maybe I should get Rampart up before she does Redemption

[cold ember]

Unless maybe redemptions damage is not fixed

[stark oyster]

SHould be safer that way

Well the tank that took over me later also died from redemption

[uncut charm]

Well

[stark oyster]

Lol

[uncut charm]

I am a PLD

Shelton on demand

30%

[stark oyster]

Warrior here

[uncut charm]

FeelsGoodMan

[stark oyster]

Yeah but I have fell cleave

[uncut charm]

Next time I tank I tell you

[cold ember]

I have all 3 tanks

[uncut charm]

Tbh only savage fight tank busters can really slap a tank with CDs to really low

24 man busters are like 50-70% of your max HP after migration

[stark oyster]

Ok thanks

[cold ember]

Unless ultima is the exception like mist dragon

[stark oyster]

@trim mica I suspect it's the vuln debuff

[uncut charm]

Usually if you have a whm there is also divine benison

[stark oyster]

I got no clue though I was surprised

Later ultimas I tanked through just fine

No vuln debuff

I wonder if it's possible for the skill to crit

[quick verge]

no

[uncut charm]

I mean I already gave your vul stack a 20% increase

[stark oyster]

Oh ok

[uncut charm]

It is not crit

[stark oyster]

Oh yeah

so the vuln is 20%

[quick verge]

Biscuit

tank busters that crit will crit 100% of the time unless you use awareness

in #endgame-discussion · Feb 27, 2019, 1:12 AM

[stark oyster]

I guess this means my rampart was offset

Lol

[cold ember]

Probably no healer mitigation

[uncut charm]

Boss typically do not crit on skills unless it is 100% crit skills like O3S boss

Boss do crit on autos tho

[quick verge]

tera slash

critical hit

any status on an enemy that guarantees crits

[stark oyster]

Alright

Oh yeah I had a TG Cid fight that went for so long that each party had 3 shadowblades per party lol

I was like wtf

I never saw this phase before

[pastel cobalt]

Is there even any way to safely place them with 9 total? I'd imagine no

[stark oyster]

I got no idea

[steady pebble]

no there's not

you can only have one per platform

the moment you put two on the same platform, even if its at opposite ends

[stark oyster]

The fight was over after the 3 shadowblades started to form lol

[steady pebble]

they'll touch and thus explode

[stark oyster]

I guess it's like a soft enrage

[uncut charm]

seeing enrage now

4Head

[stark oyster]

@uncut charm It was the same fight that I got one shot by ultima's 2nd form

[tender frost]

can you continually grind the third 24 man raid to get your gear ?

or is it still locked to one per week ?

[dull radish]

one per week still

[tender frost]

how about the other two 24 man ?

[fringe granite]

Go ham

[heavy mist]

yup go ham and getting the eqips from them

if u wanted lol

[tender frost]

so the other 2 are OK to grind multiple times ?

[heavy mist]

yeah if u want to

[tender frost]

coolio. thank you

[cold ember]

U go ham for the coins

U can upgrade scaeven gear using the 3 coins

[steep iris]

gg

[heavy mist]

grats

[stable basin]

ayyy

[cold ember]

Im looking for an alt class to play for raiding im not sure which class to pick

[stable basin]

Can you keep the same role? Do you want to share loot with your current job?

[stark oyster]

Everyone loves monks

[cold ember]

Im looking for a job that is mobile and is less harsh on timings

[stable basin]

Melee other than Ninja then, Bard is also very mobile, and Machinist as well

Red mage too is fun

[cold ember]

Maybe healing im a caster dps will the transition be ok

Im looking for for a job with less gauges to focus on i notice i tend to tunnel alot

[stark oyster]

@cold ember Well RDM is easy to handle

You have a gauge but it's very straight forward

Best part is if you fuck up the gauge it's not hard to recover

[cold ember]

I mained rdm last time didnt do too well

[stark oyster]

Hmmmm

Maybe Samurai?

Samurai is pretty flexible and not very harsh on timing

[uncut charm]

Main PLD

Oath guage is ezpz

[stark oyster]

But that means you have to play one

[cold ember]

Tanks are the last thing on my mind due to how undergeared they are

[uncut charm]

Tanks are so ez go gear now

Eureka geat is bis for head hands glove

Chest/pants/belt get tome

[stark oyster]

I mean if I can tank

Anyone can

And I'm terrible at it

[cold ember]

Acc and weps currently are my problem

[uncut charm]

Crafted acc

Weapons you have eureka

Ezpz

[cold ember]

How long will it take to make a wep from 0 protean crystals

I'll just farm seiryu then

[uncut charm]

works too

farm 10x with your current job

[cold ember]

Well i havent done 12s too this week wtv wep i get im gonna use it

[loud mesa]

With Paladin, the normal rotation involves hitting Holy Spirit 5 times in a row (basically complete mana drain). If you are being fed an excess of mana for whatever reason, be it Sheltron or Ranged DPS Mana songs, is it recommended to continue firing off Holy Spirits, or do you just continue the rotation once you've cleared 5, no matter where your MP is?

[quick verge]

refresh goring then do 2x Holy Spirit if mp permits

after requiescat

allows you to get 0 drift on your next FoF

[loud mesa]

So.
Coming off of Goring Blade. I got Requiescat -> 5* Holy Spirit. If I happen to have roughly 2.9k Mana leftover after that. Another Goring and 2* Holy Spirit before resuming normal programming?

[quick verge]

sure

you can also do 3x HS

[loud mesa]

True, since I would have mixed in another Riot Blade.

[inland ore]

I played pld in o11s yesterday. I think my pld obligations are over for the time being, but I want to continue playing it and get better at it regardless.

Mostly because I made a cute pld glam and don't want it to go to waste.

[wicked coral]

So, quick question: Does anyone run Pagos anymore? Is there like a time of day when people are doing it most? I want to upgrade my weapon but it seems I'm late to the party 😮

[inland ore]

A bunch of people still run pagos. Especially now with the latest eureka content released. Peak population would be whatever prime time is for your data center.

[wicked coral]

Aha, fair enough. I've mainly popped in late-evening time so will try a bit earlier. Just felt a bit barren compared to Anemos, is all.

[glass trellis]

MIght have gotten a new instance

[loud mesa]

I just got done spending 5 hours in Pagos doing my challenge log solo. chat was active enough the whole time with NM train callouts and other party shouts. (not a single challenge log shout)

[elder lark]

do challenge logs in Anemos, it's much better for that lol

[loud mesa]

Nah

I got monster kill exp this way too

[wicked coral]

Oh I hadn't considered being in a new instance.

[loud mesa]

10k per mob wasn't bad

[elder lark]

the idea of spending 5hr doing challenge logs makes me want to hang myself but if it works for you, great >.>

[wicked coral]

I feel like doing the challenge log in Pagos is fine because you can keep your eye on fates at the same time?

[loud mesa]

I usually spend 5 hours just trying to get a party together and keep them in line for anemos synced logs anyways. Makes no difference for me

Except I get exp and no people debuff solo

[elder lark]

idk, I usually get them done in 45 minutes with a group

[loud mesa]

That's fine if you happen to have that fortune with people. I always get people that want to interrupt every log farm with "Hey, let's go do that NM"

And end up replacing people constantly, and thus having to help them do their logs that we may have neared completion already

[glass trellis]

How does Pagos light farm works?

Just chain mobs?

[loud mesa]

There's a few ways I've heard of.

"Forge" parties build up chains with the plants and kill the dragon

NM trains

There's some kind of synced bunnies trick for solo players I've heard of.

[lyric summit]

yeah you can solo the lvl 25 mobs and sync when they die

[eternal matrix]

at what point do people start hating on samurai?

[lyric summit]

either when they're bad or the samurai is bad

[stark oyster]

How do I not panic during the wind phase as a tank in alphascape v1

cyclone i mean

[quick verge]

rephrase your question

[stark oyster]

Like I often get lost on how to pull Chaos when the cyclone phase starts

[uncut charm]

Why or what are you panicking

Once the fire phase ends immediately pull boss to a corner

[stark oyster]

After I get blown where should the boss be facing

Towards the corner or towards the tornado

[uncut charm]

Don't wait or you will end up boss too near cyclone

?

I don't get you

[stark oyster]

LIke after I get blown to the corner

What should I do

[uncut charm]

Tank boss facing outside at the corner

[stark oyster]

Ah ok

Man as a DPS I can just follow everyone if I have no idea what I'm doing

[uncut charm]

You cant follow any random person during dark crystal if you are doing 9s tho

4Head

[stark oyster]

I have no idea what I was doing as a tank during the split shared damage phase

I just went to whichever team that had less people

[uncut charm]

9N or S

I cant rmb N anymore

[stark oyster]

I'm still a scrub man

No S content for me

[uncut charm]

But I think N you cant all stack either

Need to auto auto split 4:4 during fire phase stack

If you stack twice its rekt

[stark oyster]

Yeah we split

Just that I don't know if there is anything I am supposed to do other than join the less member team

[uncut charm]

At least you guys spliy

I've seen some are like

2 stack markers still full team stack together

4Head

[stark oyster]

Does that actually work

[uncut charm]

No

[stark oyster]

Or does it kill everyone

[uncut charm]

Confirm die la

[stark oyster]

Lol

[uncut charm]

It's like lighthouse Hashmal

If some toot went wrong side and have stack marker

He should just suicide

[stark oyster]

Lol

[uncut charm]

But sometimes you see that toot go join the other party

Kill everyone

Topkek

[stark oyster]

Tis just a scratch mark

BTW were you playing around 10pm

I was lagging the fuck out in Tonberry

Like I couldn't even move around or talk to vendors

[uncut charm]

I was in eureka

Was normal

[stark oyster]

Weird

A few people on my guild had the same issue

[quick verge]

🤔

no nerfs that i know of

[glad tapir]

i saw once a website on reddit where you can plan your CDs for raids. but i cannot find it anymore, does anyone know this website?

[lyric summit]

Google spreadsheets?

probably the easiest one and most customizable

[glad tapir]

not that what i am looking for, its not comfortable

[lyric summit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ln_HGY2Sj6dX0hhglQFdzsFoTF2ZHhJoUb_e8NCRpw/edit?usp=drivesdk

that's the only one I've ever seen people use 🤷

example link

[glad tapir]

yeah not comfortable at all its not showing me recast times and duration, there is something better exsist, i am just cannot find it anymore :3

[glad tapir]

ah i think i find it, need check it later https://ff14.toolboxgaming.space/

[stark oyster]

Guys alphascape v4 was pretty fun

[pastel cobalt]

The boss using moves that players have access to is one of my favorite things in video games

[lyric summit]

sounds like blu

[pastel cobalt]

Make BLU a boss

[simple sky]

Delete bli

Blu

Then put it back in so people have to redo it

[pastel cobalt]

[lyric summit]

that's more content replay value than the past 6? weeks of masked carnival

[quick verge]

disappointing how Omega-M doesn't use Passage of Arms ++ in savage

[daring berry]

im disappointed that Omega-M doesn't have a special trigger where it activates Hallowed Ground when a WAR uses Inner Release

[quick verge]

don't worry

their Hallowed Ground is firewall

[lyric summit]

who would use hallowed on a dude taking 2% of your hp

[wet stag]

Df tanks

[lyric summit]

passage looked cool but it was like ages of downtime in normal mode

[stark oyster]

God I still can't figure out how to see starboard/larboard when the fucker faces me

I'm retarded

[wet stag]

Ok

U turn ur camera

[lyric summit]

just dodge it

[quick verge]

spin your camera

[wet stag]

And go

[quick verge]

180 degrees

[wet stag]

Play tank and cooldown through it

[stark oyster]

Ok I'll try that

That's what the 2 DRKs did and they died

[wet stag]

Wow they're bad

[stark oyster]

Yeah they took turns to die

Lol

We cleared it though

[quick verge]

imagine brute forcing a mechanic

[lyric summit]

delete tank LB

[daring berry]

imagine being so bad at Lar/Star you have to turn your camera

[wet stag]

Imagine doing alphascape

[daring berry]

but then again i get hit by that 40% of the time.

so im bad too

[quick verge]

you get hit therefore you are bad

if you don't get hit you are not bad

[stark oyster]

fuck 3x alphascapes and i got no loot

this sucks

[wet stag]

Just do eureka for gear xd

[quick verge]

xd

[stark oyster]

Omfg 4th one

Still no parts

Wtf?

[stark oyster]

How can I keep not getting parts

Is there somethign wrong with my character

[gaunt python]

i'm just more surprised ppl are rolling on those parts

[pastel cobalt]

Now that parts are unrestricted, some people probably just roll need on everything automatically

[stark oyster]

6th one

And no parts

Ok I think I'm officially giving up

[pastel cobalt]

[daring berry]

can confirm

i roll on everything cause i cant be assed to count how many i already have

[stark oyster]

Lol 7th one no parts again

[pastel cobalt]

[stark oyster]

I must be on some sort of cursed streak lol

I'm not stopping till you give me a part game

Finally

Got an item

[pastel cobalt]

\o/

[loud mesa]

I roll need on everything just so I can gear alts.

[shrewd abyss]

Is it worth running a primal fight on normal just to learn the mechanics or should I wait

[lyric summit]

you need to clear normal to unlock extreme

ex has different mechanics than normal so if you want to practice extreme then do extreme

[shrewd abyss]

Ok thanks Vis

I just wanna farm the susano one cuz it's pretty fun and I want the gear

[loud mesa]

Anyone have a link to research that's already been done for Paladin best in slot?

[lyric summit]

https://discord.gg/vZzJhk

[heavy mist]

its in the PLD_Questions pin

or ill just post it 👀

2.36 - Hydatos Build - 50-80DPS more than Standard
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18LTB
(Swap the Head for Omega if you want to go a little slower)

2.40 - Standard Build
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/17C72

2.43 - Poorboye Build (Raid Accessories Only) - 50-100DPS less than Standard
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1884D

@loud mesa

But join the balance for future BiS stuff

[loud mesa]

Thanks. I'll take a look.

[vital cypress]

oh cool

i have a hard deadline for clearing omega now

[quick verge]

when

[vital cypress]

server split day

[quick verge]

nice

just kill it

[vital cypress]

because i don't feel like porting off balmung

[lyric summit]

i'm reposting here sue me

[vital cypress]

[quick verge]

flex

on

🅱roke summoners

[lyric summit]

nah

mch too strong

[quick verge]

how many exaflares did you eat total

[lyric summit]

zero

the only person in the group without eating one

[quick verge]

im proud of you

😔

[lyric summit]

😌

holmgang/10

[simple sky]

boy is soft

[quick verge]

did you miss

a defensive buff or something

[lyric summit]

shake was late or something just registered late on me

morn afah

[heavy mist]

New food and i345 equip op?

Or DMG roll too strong

[quick verge]

yes

[lyric summit]

343 wih 3 i345 pieces and shakshouka

[heavy mist]

💦 💦

[quick verge]

did you farm swallow's compass

or just say fk it

[heavy mist]

For left side can't u use anemos?

[fringe granite]

Yes

But eureka

[heavy mist]

Ik right side you need swallow if u want i345

[quick verge]

looking at el balance's

bis for smn

[lyric summit]

never got the necklace

oh i forgot the eureka gear is 345

[heavy mist]

Lol

[quick verge]

👏 miracles 👏 do 👏 happen 👏

[heavy mist]

Wish I had a constant schedule to do uwu or ucob

😦

Sadly the only non puggable things :/

[lyric summit]

wish i had a job and money

[heavy mist]

Same

Still in school

[inland ore]

But now you can sell ultimate.

There's your cash flow.

[quick verge]

why not just

sell savage and extreme

[heavy mist]

Just sell msq clears

😂

[lyric summit]

ucob sales are pennies by now

maybe if it's fresh and they're like 1500 eur or whatever the whales pay

but now it's like 200, divide by 8 you get 25 for possibly hours of wipes to stupid

not even worth

[quick verge]

sounds p worth

[lyric summit]

plus depending on the buyer's job(s) you don't even get a clear for yourself

the only reason I'd ever do sales would be just to get more clears for me

[quick verge]

gotta become arthars tier

have enough totems for the next 40 expacs

[stark oyster]

Man the omegascape raids have been pretty fun

I got through alpha v2-v4 last night

Then felt the fury of RNG

no parts for 7 runs

[blazing pelican]

Can't wait for next expansion where there's a full set of Ultimate gear.

Fucking just glowing like a strobe light in the middle of Limsa

[stark oyster]

@blazing pelican I hope to see Seeing Horde stuff get cheaper

[quick verge]

just farm nidhogg scales

[stark oyster]

I heard you can't get it with a downsized party right

[quick verge]

false

[stark oyster]

Ah ok

Can a party of 4 take down niddhog ex?

[quick verge]

not in a reasonable time

[stark oyster]

Doh

Gonna be tough to find 8 people

[quick verge]

not really

make a pf and go make dinner or something

[blazing pelican]

Yeah Nidhogg is an easy farm, just gotta pay attention like you do for Sephirot

[quick verge]

you can actually fuck up most every mechanic and clear

unless you see the nails

[uncut charm]

unsync and see nails?

4Head

[quick verge]

hey man

you see wild shit in pf

you ever see whm/ast in final

[cold ember]

Ive seen it

[errant kayak]

last night

[stark oyster]

Is Firewall at Alpha 4 an even split?

Like 4 can attack F and 4 can attack M?

[cold ember]

Yup

Its prioritizes whowver is closest

[stark oyster]

@cold ember I always notice one of the sides having more people attacking

I thought it was uneven :/

So it's just people not understanding what firewall does I guess

[cold ember]

Probably

[stark oyster]

Are they going to remove alpha crystal limit next patch?

Like before next expansion?

[torn kindle]

Probably. either 4.56 or 4.57/4.58

[stark oyster]

The next patch is end of march right

[steady pebble]

mhm

[torn kindle]

after tokyo fanfest, so the 26th most likely.

[barren ember]

So how they did the earrings is interesting I wonder if they will do it to shadowbringer gear doubt it thou and rather not have 8 way rolls in savage on accessories XD

[lyric summit]

it's a one time thing, and only for leveling gear anyways

they won't make full sets of scaling leveling gear either

[glass trellis]

Pagos, Dragon vs Forge lightfarm?

[wet stag]

Wolf cheese

[heavy mist]

^

[rustic lichen]

How do the wolf cheese actually

[lyric summit]

kill mob, press level sync, wait a second for the exp/light/chain to go through, unsync, repeat

[rustic lichen]

Any job that's easy on? It's annoying to sync since I'm on controller but I'll give it a go

[lyric summit]

easiest on rdm

you can make a sync macro and put it on your hotbar i think

[elder lark]

Yep, you can macro it

[steep iris]

@lyric summit grats btw

let's flex on this discord

with our double legends

[lyric summit]

stronk

[steep iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/517128784437182464/550950704123215882/ffxiv_dx11_2019-03-01_01-59-35.png

[rustic lichen]

How'd ya do that?

[lyric summit]

mannequins clipping through the wall

[glossy musk]

^

Looks cool

[stark oyster]

Nice the axe I've been watching on the marketboard dropped from 2.79 to 2.78m

I still can afford it

[simple sky]

can?

nice

[hybrid rapids]

[glass trellis]

Just got to Pyros, what do I go?
Grind mobs for Mnemes?

[hybrid rapids]

Wait for NM and also do some south bunny NM

[glass trellis]

So just fate grind?

[quick verge]

my bis chumming along very nicely

[simple sky]

time to fail 40 overmelds

[queen egret]

Downloading heaven sword and stromblood now. I main sum and sometimes sch. Looking to do something easy that is sought after in end game content until I learn the encounters well any ideas?

[heavy mist]

Pretty much any class. If you learn the class's rotation you will want to keep using it so you can adjust your rotation as you keep progging

@queen egret

If you talking about the savage and beyond raids

[dull radish]

been too long, uwu is good times <3

[inland ore]

You went back in today? How far did you get?

[dull radish]

mmm titan goals, would have done them ok but a newer member is used to using triggers and not calling them out so we doubled up haha

took like 3/4 of a lockout so shouldn't be too bad to get caught back up to where we were

[inland ore]

For not having done it in so long, getting to titan gaols in 3/4 of a lockout is a pretty fast pace.

[dull radish]

yeah, most of it was dumb stuff like readjusting to healing frictions/cleanses haha

since we have a few folks that have been working on it lately with other groups but for example our AST is usually SCH with the other group, and our SCH I don't think has been in the fight since it came out, like the bulk of us

[inland ore]

Yeah, I would have expected things like figuring out how to heal garuda and how to do nails to take some time if the group hasn't been in there for awhile, especially if it's with a bunch of new members.

[dull radish]

yeah our SCH, AST, and BRD are new to the group. Also the folks who are more recently practiced in uwu, thankfully enough. The rest of us haven't been in there since before alphascape haha

[inland ore]

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. I wish I were doing uwu more than I actually have been myself.

[dull radish]

I'm still a bit sad though, we've been going through and reoptimizing the fights a bit as a full group now for savage

and I've been actually getting a few nicer parses

and we started tonight in final omega and I was hoping to get orange, or at least above 9k

but it was a bit of memes and we decided to call it and hop over to uwu

been fun but still

my PB is like barely short of 9k

!whologs @dull radish

[storm frost]

Rika Vanih of Leviathan

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Chaos**

Black Mage: (18/7157) [9224 DPS] [99 Historical] [6:53]

**Midgardsormr**

Black Mage: (23/4926) [7841 DPS] [99 Historical] [8:03]

**Omega**

Black Mage: (26/3022) [8355 DPS] [99 Historical] [8:59]

**Omega-M and Omega-F**

Black Mage: (16/2090) [8738 DPS] [99 Historical] [6:22]

**The Final Omega**

Black Mage: (99/1497) [8958 DPS] [93 Historical] [9:25]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse. Number of logs capped at two per fight. Use !classlogs for more detailed information.

[inland ore]

Mmm... I can understand that feeling. I managed to get orange in all the savage fights, which was my original, but I still have that feeling in the back of my head that I could have done better.

I guess it doesn't bother me that much though.

I'm fairly impressed with that m/f parse of yours though, haha.

[dull radish]

yo we were like

so close to skipping the LB spam

[quick verge]

powerful

[dull radish]

so I'm pretty sure there was a decent bit of overkill

yeah about 100 dps of overkill haha

[inland ore]

Our fastest m/f kill was... 6:24. So I think we could have skipped it if we actually used melee lb?

[dull radish]

oh wait that wasn't our fastest

that one was horrible

we had 5 deaths on my pb

DRG AST AST NIN BRD

[stable basin]

I wanna know who's hoarding all the oranges on final

[dull radish]

it's so skewed, man

people pad so hard

[stable basin]

So many extremely good players with no orange on that fight

[dull radish]

I can hit orange no pad but I need a bit cleaner run than my PB

only had the one clear with not dumb strats and not playing stupid safe for weeklies haha

[inland ore]

Imagine if I had a ninja here.

[quick verge]

you just luv ninja

just wanna get a 90k akh morn and tri disaster under trick and contagion

[dull radish]

I'd love contagion please and thank you <3

[quick verge]

I'd like contagion if summonses drifted it by like

10 seconds

[dull radish]

the fun thing is

I literally don't care about drift

I just want it

[inland ore]

I have to delay contagion in final to keep it aligned with trick.

My PLD notices if I don't do it. 👀

[quick verge]

wtf

they should just start optimal FoF

and play with fire until 2nd monitors

[inland ore]

I was about to check what my pld does but fflogs just went down, apparently.

[quick verge]

nice

[inland ore]

If I were to ever get a name change one of the contenders would be "Delete Fflogs".

[quick verge]

my name change would probably be

toxic elitist

anyway if your pld likes to see how hard they can greed

tell them to start FoF for a good time

[inland ore]

I'll be sure to let them know the great Biscuit Centrifugal recommends it.

[quick verge]

who

[dull radish]

the PLD in my group does some janky pre-pull FoF or something

I'd trust him to look up good info but I just saw it when he started trying it and thought he mistakenly popped it haha

[quick verge]

prepull FoF is good in like

suzaku and byakko

it's okay in final but you're better off using the other 2

it just means that you breathe extremely hard when raid buffs aren't aligned

[dull radish]

I'm a bit past worrying too much what other folks do as far as optimizing stuff for raid other than obvious stuff

personal buffs are more on them unless they're clearly wrong haha

like my old MCH in A8S

popping HC and everything to kill their steam regulator on onslaughter

while we were meme struggling to beat blaster dps check

HC and RS, that is, on the steam regulator

[quick verge]

🤔

[dull radish]

I had such meme groups in HW

it was so bad haha

[quick verge]

and the steam regulator has like

10 hp?

that's very impressive

[dull radish]

they "couldn't kill it without using that stuff"

I actually did some research on it, asked folks, compiled info, bought it up to the MCH

they threw a hissyfit and left the static

[inland ore]

Mmm... I am not a fan of static members throwing hissy fits.

Shortly after I left my old static they started to bleed members. Wasn't long until they were 4/8 or something, so they had to pick up a lot of pugs to get their weeklies done.

One particular week they got o12s done, and a pug got the coffer.

The sam ended up throwing a huge fit, flaming everyone, being really rude, and giving an ultimatum, that they either get the coffer the next week or they'd leave.

Well, they never got that opportunity, because they were kicked on the spot.

[quick verge]

ultimatums

my favorite

[vital cypress]

probably good

[quick verge]

they could've easily

just said like

uwu I have the highest dps please give coffer >///<

you get to simultaneously call the people around you shit and stroke your ego

[inland ore]

They apparently pulled the same stunt in delta and sigma. I don't know why they weren't kicked then.

[dull radish]

uwu I always have highest dps and get coffer~

[quick verge]

maybe I should just main dps in 5.0

dps always get good stuff

[dull radish]

man it's so worth

I made the switch from healer at the start of HW to dps

like I miss healer sometimes but

dps is so incredibly cozy and you have so much benefit

and favor on loot a bit

(despite me generally ending up being last on the pecking order for twines)

[quick verge]

gotta play by pug loot rules

greed only

healer gets 5 twines?

it's fine

because they outskilled everyone

5 weeks in a row

[dull radish]

my problem is

I always end up with a bunch of gear upgrades that aren't a part of BiS

so like

[heavy mist]

clear the tier then wait for next tier

[dull radish]

I'm just looking for twines for side upgrades

[heavy mist]

and buy it all again

👌

[dull radish]

so I always end up 8th in the order

since I get so much HP but just shitty gear until I can replace it with augmented stuff

and wait on pages for the raid stuff

[inland ore]

Oh yeah.

[quick verge]

gearing up is a pain

[inland ore]

Better late than never... right?

[quick verge]

get to afk in town

with your blm rod

[inland ore]

Eureka*

[dull radish]

very powerful rod~

[quick verge]

but if you're in eureka

[dull radish]

it's so sad

[quick verge]

you just get a 1000 crit rod

[dull radish]

BLM BiS is literally 100% eureka left side

[quick verge]

yeah that's tragic

I thought it was an elaborate joke at first

[dull radish]

all you need from savage for BiS is like a ring

a job that loves all substats means substats are strong

[heavy mist]

SAM has a lot too

🤔

i was surprised

thankfully ive been farming hydatos and pyros and have tons of crystals to easily gear da classes

[dull radish]

thankfully I'm still like elemental level 7 in eureka~

[heavy mist]

lol

[dull radish]

but can still get 99's in savage so np

no pad <3

[quick verge]

wow

you don't want the experience of killing hundreds of mobs?

[inland ore]

My ASP has surprisingly not dropped at all. So either all the really good smns don't do eureka or don't care enough to redo the fights.

[quick verge]

most people have stopped alphascape

[dull radish]

I'm so sad holis cube exists

[heavy mist]

i mean its a small amount of extra dps

[dull radish]

and people walking in their footsteps

[quick verge]

and are doing ultimate

[heavy mist]

its not that much

[dull radish]

I remember on train

laqi had #2 BLM spot on the fight

[quick verge]

train

[dull radish]

and had 116 ASP

[quick verge]

yikes dude

[dull radish]

because holis legit got like

9 Flares under buffs on the adds

[heavy mist]

lol

[quick verge]

train was so fun but so bad

[inland ore]

9 flares? Jeez

[dull radish]

yeah they let them do 100% of the aoe

[heavy mist]

insane

[quick verge]

did they kill the chimney

[dull radish]

they also did some really dumb stuff rotationally which is always fun

[quick verge]

or was his pad too powerful

[dull radish]

they killed chimney~

[quick verge]

😬

[dull radish]

I just remember having super solid boss dps in that fight, and wishing they had that as a metric for heavy padding-potential fights

but I'm still generally getting a bit better over time, making good decisions and less dumb ones

[quick verge]

soon enough you'll only make good decisions

blizzard 4 is a crutch

[dull radish]

oh lord like

there's someone legit doing some meme B4 agnostic rotation

[heavy mist]

Blizzard 5

[dull radish]

from the output of a bot

and it's so galaxy brain

it's ridiculous

[quick verge]

I know that person

[dull radish]

lady yuna'lesca

or whatever

[quick verge]

yeah them

[dull radish]

powerful levi gamer

I dunno that it's actually worth it tbh haha

[quick verge]

I heard they actually got really good numbers

[dull radish]

yeah but they also had 28 TC procs in that fight

with good crit/dh rng

it has potential to be better but I think it's a bit overstated, especially in a practical standpoint

[inland ore]

I see them talk about it sometimes in the balance, but I haven't been following at all.

I'll just stick to my small brain b4 rotation.

[dull radish]

can get good parses with cozy rotation <3

[quick verge]

and not the big brain b3 > f3 rotation?

[inland ore]

Hey, I use sharp fire religiously.

[dull radish]

big sharp fire fan

[quick verge]

thunder procs frustrate me

sometimes my proc will refresh 8 times in 10 seconds

or it'll just

not

[dull radish]

aggressive TC procs in opener is legit my favorite thing

[inland ore]

Playing blm in eureka has been helping me intuitively keep track of my thunder duration.

[dull radish]

but then we always wipe

[inland ore]

Because I certainly am not seeing it on the boss.

[dull radish]

and I knowh the pull where I don't get the TC proc in my opener

is the clear one

[quick verge]

and then you also die

[dull radish]

yup

cue that one time I died to the final archive all before enrage spam

about 80% my fault but still

I died and people went, well this is the clear then

[quick verge]

I do my service and throw runs if people die before a certain point

dot timers in eureka also trigger me to the point where I just don't play classes with dots

[inland ore]

On smn I don't even need to see my dots.

I know when to refresh them regardless.

But then there are also times when my dots just don't apply.

So my festers will mysteriously whiff.

[quick verge]

it's why you should just grief eureka on a relaxing job

like WAR

[inland ore]

I was playing pld in hydatos for awhile.

Nothing like a boss that dashes everywhere.

Or a boss that does a point blank aoe every 10 seconds.

[quick verge]

I opt to play mch with 30 fps

so I can feel powerful with my 8k wildfires

never have to do mechanics

[inland ore]

BLM is so fun in eureka. Ovni is literally just a target dummy.

[quick verge]

until you can't see the aoes

[inland ore]

That bird boss is annoying though.

Nothing like missing your F1 and dropping enochian.

[quick verge]

people not carrying Feint L

so nice

whiffing verholy

the bird can fuck off in general

wants to sleep everyone every 20 seconds

then it just takes its time walking across the universe to hit you with an aoe that does 2 damage

[inland ore]

At least hydatos doesn't seem to have the problem of people pulling half the map into the NMs like pyros did.

[quick verge]

remember that time

half the wood golems

were pulled into Dux

[inland ore]

How could I forget? It only happens every single time.

[quick verge]

It's always amusing until something walks up to you and oneshots you

I went back into Anemos earlier to farm for some gear

and it was quite relaxing

not having to refrain from using buffs or aoes

[inland ore]

I never refrain.

I'd rather die than limit my dps.

[quick verge]

tragic

I'm gonna have to use bitch oath when I do enter ucob

a true tragedy

ill both die and limit my dps

[inland ore]

Someone I know recommended a ten build for plds in ucob.

Just because pld dps is so bad in there.

[quick verge]

I think they're bad

just don't respect content

and you can hit 4k

[inland ore]

Can't comment. I'd check pld ucob parses but fflogs is still down.

On a sidenote, I have 190 hydatos crystals now so I can buy a full left side eureka set for my blm.

It took forever.

[dull radish]

eureka set is so powerful

but by powerful it's still like not crazy better than the pre-eureka BiS

[inland ore]

It's like a ~1% increase iirc.

[quick verge]

eureka bis makes me sad

tomestone and savage gear obsolete