#endgame-lounge

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normal sable
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apparently will give u a great dummy parse tho

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here's a graphical breakdown on why he's wrong

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haga -> guren instead of haga -> gekko -> guren is not a big deal

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and probably works for the dude since he looks like he has rockin ping

full wave
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Why wouldn't you Kaiten your first Higanbana

normal sable
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oh it didn't click through

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god damn

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JUST PRETEND ITS THERE REEE

quick verge
normal sable
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not

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even

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close

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bby

quick verge
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blocked

normal sable
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were u using food

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or pots

quick verge
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nah

normal sable
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ok

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i'll show u a REAL dps

quick verge
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i only have str pots

normal sable
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doesn't that work for rdm autos

quick verge
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im not retarded enough to blow money

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for rdm autos

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s1r

normal sable
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there was a meme

quick verge
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or fleche/contre sixte

normal sable
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about a guy on OF who melded STR on rdm

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saying it made his autos as good as NIN autos

quick verge
normal sable
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ya i no

quick verge
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ill show you real power s1r

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ill destroy 7500 dps

full wave
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Killed it with 3 seconds left

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But that window is small enough to blame on good procs

normal sable
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EASY

full wave
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My midares never crit

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This is bullshit

normal sable
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@quick verge fight me

full wave
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If I run a parse it'll say my highest hit is 25k

quick verge
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bet

fringe granite
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Lance I feel your pain

quick verge
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i just have to become the best padder

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o ancient pad gods

normal sable
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how can u pad on sss

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r u gonna bring out the bird

quick verge
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dw

full wave
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Make a friend

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Get them to buff you

normal sable
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oh party ur friend

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for the party buff

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3% main stat

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LMAO EASY PAD

full wave
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Can AST give cards to non party?

fringe granite
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Except for the part where you can't enter SSS with a party

steady pebble
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no, ast cards are party

thorn bear
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mfw I hit a 45k midare on dummy

fringe granite
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Up that crit number johnny

thorn bear
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too bad

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i'm fast as fuck boy

normal sable
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smh

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its just too easy

quick verge
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i did not

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choose an easy dummy

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to modify my kill time

normal sable
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LMAO

quick verge
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in any shape

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or form

normal sable
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the pad king

quick verge
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no but in reality

normal sable
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which one was it

quick verge
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shinryu nm

fringe granite
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I thought so

quick verge
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i had to ensure that the only 2 uhhh

normal sable
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oh lemme try

quick verge
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verflare/holies

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would crit/dcrit

normal sable
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I'm guessing faster kill time is god for rdm

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who spikes hard and kinda falls off

quick verge
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it'll spike

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after each melee combo > verholy/flare

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but yeah the opener pops off the most

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like mch/brd

thorn bear
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I almost beat o12s dummy in full diamond

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with red mage

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lol

normal sable
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mfw spagehti my opener 5 times in a row

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i'm actually good at this game i swear

thorn bear
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u sure bud

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i've seen you in hello world

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👀

normal sable
quick verge
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toxic

normal sable
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shin dummy is actually worse

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because i only get like 1 chance to midare

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and if don't crit it's RIP

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pls i can pull 8k dps in final now

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until archive all

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then it's a wipe

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rip me

quick verge
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pull 10k

normal sable
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i just wanna play bard

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so i never gotta worry about anything

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positionals?

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melee uptime?

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?????

thorn bear
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bard players be like

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"I don't wanna do tehters"

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"i just wanna turn off my brain"

normal sable
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bruh u missed zack

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trying to lord over me

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and his 1 11% final omega clear

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0 purples this tier tho btw

thorn bear
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actual god gamer

quaint flower
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if brd is not doing tether, he is doing kyrios

normal sable
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i wish i could get carried

quick verge
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kyrios is ranged mechanic btw

normal sable
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think u mispelled paladin

rapid sapphire
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what's a paladin? sofieDerp

quick verge
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daddy issues

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also i learned today i can survive 2 oversampled wave cannons if i block both

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and it's reprisal'd

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very cool

quaint flower
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useless though

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2 people still needs to be on monitor side so no point in soloing it

quick verge
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no but my drk was sniffing lead paint or something

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so i ate double oversampled at least 3 times

quaint flower
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forget once to block debuff wave for him and he will never sniff again

quick verge
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i just need to marry a war irl

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so they won't kill me out of fear of them getting instantly clapped

solemn crow
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if I got ivalice bottoms from the new raid, should I just focus my mendacity on the other stuffs first? (whatever comes after chest/pants)

lyric summit
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replace lowest ilvl

vital cypress
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speaking of gear, is a pentamelded crafted ring still preferable to the Augmented Scaevan ring on SCH?

rapid sapphire
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my understanding is yes because of crit (one crafted, one omega)

flat roost
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Does anyone know a way to disable the first person view toggle on the PS4 controller?

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I'd only want to use the button for duty actions.

full wave
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Sorry Shibe no clue

unreal flax
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Create a macro in slot #98 or #99, then go to the controller setup and change the button mapping to one of those two macros. Or just leave the macros blank and do the same thing

vital cypress
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I heartily recommend sticking a macro that's just /ac "sprint" in slot 99

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then binding that to right stick

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sprint is handy

flat roost
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hmm.

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Thank you. I'm looking to use it for duty action stuff. but the sprint would be kinda cool.

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I dont use Lock on ever, I could make that be sprint

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left stick be sprint*

rapid sapphire
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can remap R3 although the choices are kinda limited

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(I had the same issue with L3 as the move in relation to target button)

unreal flax
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I have my R3 set to /levelsync lol. I spent a lot of time in Eureka.

vital cypress
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I like having sprint because I need it a lot

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because what is positioning

lyric sandal
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the amount of people who don't sprint is way too high

zinc vortex
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sprint is so GOOD

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i love it

lyric sandal
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like you're running your ass to the next pack of monster? better sprint if it's up. Dodging a bunch of aoes in a row or have to run cross arena to sit in your marker? better sprint if it's up

full wave
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I've died many times because I thought sprint was up :(

zinc vortex
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that's the real struggle

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"god i wish i had saved sprint"

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though i'd rather be too liberal in my sprint usage than not use it at all

dull radish
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I remember back in A7S I completely screwed my opener up by sprinting to my corner and the pull macro starting before it was back up

lyric summit
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just use AM

quick verge
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did you wipe

zinc vortex
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wiped my ass with a picture of your mom

quick verge
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interesting

dull radish
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pretty sure we had cleared that pull, and if only AM was an option there haha

quick verge
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being able to spam sprint is nice

zinc vortex
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them dang casters in hw and their sprint usage

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i had to save ammo for that shit 😤

unreal flax
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Lol sprint in HW. I was MNK/DRG back then. I never even looked at Sprint once I queued up for something

zinc vortex
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tbf if you did you would've been out of TP for the rest of the fight

unreal flax
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If I was about to take damage, I took that shit and handled it however I could

zinc vortex
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like 50% of the time

dull radish
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just force the BRD and/or MCH to feed you TP

unreal flax
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A9S lmao. You run out of TP just existing in that fuckin fight. 0% chance I'd be sprinting in there

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I mean, there was never a reason to sprint in A9S, but I was mentioning it as a particularly heavy on TP fight, not as a sprinting fight

quick verge
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It also had a negative kill time

zinc vortex
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listen

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i had a mnk

unreal flax
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If your group was good, sure. Mine wasn't.

zinc vortex
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who insisted on using arm of the destroyer on a9s adds

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and forced me to use tp promotion

dull radish
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unfortunate

zinc vortex
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instead of just having off-gcds handle it

unreal flax
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I just stopped using GCDs on them, tbh.

zinc vortex
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so did literally everyone else

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EXCEPT HE blobangery

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JUST

unreal flax
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If Geirskogul and DfD wasn't enough, RIP

zinc vortex
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no ninja either

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so no goad

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it was just not good

quick verge
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just skip adds

zinc vortex
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then i trialed for a new group and it went pretty well

unreal flax
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Back at the end of HW, we were killing it before it got the second arm. Today's speed must be hilarious.

quick verge
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nah

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the people that do refurbisher can barely skip faust spawning

unreal flax
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I'll just be the savior of the light farm. Go in full powered with my current gear to keep the dips hot

quick verge
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meanwhile the tank is eating 30k cleaves

boreal edge
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i keep my hands hot

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to hot deeps stuff

quick verge
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I keep my hands cold so I tear muscle

zinc vortex
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i keep my hands cold not because i want to but because i cba to turn up the heat

quick verge
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wanna share heat

untold oyster
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Gay

unreal flax
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What's the lowest easy SkS for WAR? Right now, I'm just under 900SkS, I believe. I can get 5 Feels in, but it's iffy sometimes.

boreal edge
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its 1119

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gcd at 2.38

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so your storm eye doesnt end up being weird in the rotation

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tho 5 cleaves can be done even as high as 2.46

rustic lichen
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Without the Omega axe I'm at 1025 and it feels pretty comfy

steep iris
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5 feels in

rustic lichen
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Also yay, I realized I'm not a bad Sam and I'm pretty average

quick verge
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you can meld sks like they did in the old days

rustic lichen
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I meant in performance, been getting blue in Seiryu in just mostly upgraded crafted gear

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When I've been worried I'm like Grey or something

glossy musk
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My best in Seiryuu is purple but yesterday I learned that I can holmgang the tank buster

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So that should help uptime a lot

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Since I don’t need to dodge any attack now

quick verge
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there's isn't much to dodge anyway

glossy musk
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And actually I THINK it wore off before the buster anyway

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It’s the circle AOE that’s the issue because it delays your GCD

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And lines up with one of your IR

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But I’m going to just ignore it now

quick verge
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oh yeah

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tank privilege

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if i don't do some sick jp dodges oh well

glossy musk
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I could also pad on adds more but that’s kind of scummy

quick verge
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having vuln stacks only matters when the cleave tethers appear again

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because eating autos + a tank buster is kinda xd

glossy musk
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Like when people would pad on o5s by having everyone else stop lol

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And have the tank get to like 10k dps for a short time

rustic lichen
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I wanna pad on the adds more but I like living

quick verge
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literally kill them as they appear and there's no issue

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and use shake it off/troubadour/veil etc

normal sable
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I got a blue while dying

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It was worth it btw

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5 kenki

vital cypress
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O5S was the best fight to scumbag an orange parse on

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even I managed one and I'm actually brain-damaged

lyric summit
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halfway there paissaowo

rustic lichen
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Nice

quick verge
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what you on

rustic lichen
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I wanna do uwu or ucob but I don't think I got the time

lyric summit
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tenstrike

quick verge
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gl

lyric summit
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i'm scared of add phase

flat roost
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what exactly is pentamelding?

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and can you do it on accs of any kind?

steady pebble
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pentamelding is when you meld 5 materia to an item

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can only be done to crafted items

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You only see the assured slots on the gear, as melding after those 1-2 slots is a percentage

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and if the materia melding isn't successful you lose the materia

vital cypress
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Bring back tanaka

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where the whole item exploded instead

quick verge
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make all the materia explode

flat roost
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Hmm.

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So crafted accs r good because you could meld bik amounts of Vit onto them?

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Or whatever else.

dull radish
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you can't overmeld main stat, VIT included in that

steady pebble
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Pentamelding is also generally fairly expensive

quick verge
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depends on your server's market

steady pebble
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true true, but at this point i don't think i would bother too much with pentamelded

quick verge
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depends on if you want best in slot for certain jobs or not

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materia v is dirt cheap

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materia vi is easy enough to get

pastel cobalt
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Can you use VI materia for the non-guaranteed spots? Or is it just V right now

steady pebble
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You can use 1 on the overmeld slot

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so 3 total on armour, 2 for accessories/belt

glad tapir
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is bluemage the new endgame?

quaint flower
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if you call level 50 content a new endgame

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yes

glad tapir
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on the ff14 website in german language they call disabled bluemage job is he disabled because he is only lvl 50?

lyric summit
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yeah, also can't use duty finder

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or maybe it's a translation of "limited job" idk german

flat roost
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is it okay to avoid clipping oGCD with Ruin II on SCH instead of Miasma II if I'm worried for my MP? 🤔

lyric summit
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Ye

flat roost
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how often do I need to move Eos, is it okay to have it on a bit harder to access button?

lyric summit
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in casual content it really doesn't matter but at endgame when you're gonna have people surviving only thanks to fey union and covenant/wd it's obviously more important

dusky tendon
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In most fights it’s not often for normal content

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I usually place fairy in the middle of arena initiaially

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And only move when the fight warrants

flat roost
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I've done that too, slap in middle and if we stack somewhere else I move it.

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But in savage for example. would I only need to do it twice or thrice?

lyric summit
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there's some cleaves in ex and savage that pets die to so you have to make sure she's not actually right on the tank

dusky tendon
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I’ve yet to do ex/savage as scholar

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So i leave that to the more experienced ones

flat roost
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Would it possible to macro mounting and sprint together? Mount first, then sprint. so it'd mount when I can mount and sprint in areas where I cant?

steady pebble
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yes

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i have a macro just like that

flat roost
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how mi do

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teach mi pls

steady pebble
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/ac "Flying Mount Roulette"
/ac "Sprint"
/micon "Sprint"

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change the first part to /mount "Mount Name" if you want to use a specific mount

flat roost
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Thanks u.

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aaa. it says SDS Fenrir is not a valid action name. 😭

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oops I misread that, nevermind.

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Shib dumb

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ok now it works. Will it always display the error message?

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I typed in /merror off and it still does it.

lyric summit
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you can add a line with
/merror off

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🤷

flat roost
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Says "unable to use. you are currently using another item"

dusky tendon
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So i have a question, in a scenario . Alphascape v4. you're down to one boss in the last phase at about 15-20%. You the two healers a scholar and a WHM

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What should be done, should they try and support eachother to keep the party alive for the final stretch

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Or go full nuke mode

untold oyster
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Nuke the fucker

dusky tendon
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even at the risk of a complete wipe?

quick verge
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keep everyone alive

dull radish
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though to be honest you don't really need all that much to keep people alive unless someone's like out of MP

dusky tendon
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Me as as scholar had emptied my tools at that point, the whitemage who had to be fair been chadding me pretty hard the entire run

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Goes on nuking

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Doesn't even try to stabilize between AoE's

quick verge
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you should have a lb 3 at that point so they'll die quickly

dusky tendon
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We didn't my Co-healer hadn't done a proper job getting people stabilized after AoE's so we had alot of dps down

quick verge
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interesting

dusky tendon
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So it was me trying to get healer up and then get the rest up, hoping to get them stabilized, or use LB3

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I'm not joking. I had to use emergency tactics between AoE's to get people up relatively high

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More than once

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Ah well, the kill was there in the end

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Just the worst co-healer i've had in a long time

mortal forge
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hello guys , im a player of world of warcraft end game top 200 eu guild. today i start my trial ffxiv account. How's the end game raiding content here? is challenging ? booses are with mechanics like wow ? how is drop gear from end game content , its worth it ?

dusky tendon
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Endgame raiding here is alot more simple

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You don't have trash to clear aside from alliance raids

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That said, bosses start simple, but one you get to ex and savage modes they become more complex

mortal forge
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is only bosses , hack and slash or bosses with mechanics?

dusky tendon
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Alot of mechanics, more the more higher the difficulty usually

untold oyster
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I feel like the dynamic is kinda different in ffxiv. Instead of having tanks just tank and healers just heal you have everyone working towards pushing more damage out while doing their respective roles

dusky tendon
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That's somewhat the case in WoW also

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At least if you're a high end raider, you're gonna have the mindset of getting all the dps out you can while tanking, healer mechancis is different tho

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Healers have much more responsibility in regards of DPS

mortal forge
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very nice that i hear

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end game gear comes only from raids?

dusky tendon
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Sort of

mortal forge
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dungeos are like wow? hard and normal ?

dusky tendon
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Sort of

untold oyster
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You get max ilvl gear from the endgame tomes and the raids

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They’re both the same ilvl, with the exception of the weapon, the raid weapon is 5 ilvls higher than the upgraded tome wep

dusky tendon
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You can get 390 gear from currency, and then upgrade to 400 from raid loot

untold oyster
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And there’s “hard mode” dungeons which are really just different dungeons entirely but in the same setting

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Dungeons are about the same difficulty throughout the game, the content that you can consider to be more difficult are the extreme trials and savage raids

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The hardest content in the game are the ultimate fights, of which there are two

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Those are for the glory that come with clearing it, you don’t get better gear but you get a cool looking weapon and a title

dusky tendon
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But don't expect WoW style raids in ff14, Alliance raids being the exception

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But those are often also very light on trash mobs

untold oyster
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Yeah. The savage raids are 8 man

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The alliance raids are 24 man but aren’t that hard, they’re like 24 man dungeons

pastel cobalt
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Does WoW have any equivalent to the Ultimates in FFXIV?

dusky tendon
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Mythics is the closest

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But i haven't cleared ultimate raids or mythicss in WoW to be able to compare them

ruby timber
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one of the biggest difference btw WoW raiding and FFXIV raiding is the lack of DBM or anything like it here

obsidian nebula
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How do statics work? Is that like a raid team? (im also from wow)

dull radish
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yeah, a static is a consistent group of people that meet up together to run content. Generally for endgame raiding, but there can be more casual statics for other content

obsidian nebula
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Oh that's nice - so no need to commit to a server or FC?

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or is harder content server only?

lyric summit
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nope, it's cross world in a datacenter

dusky tendon
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Well, being in an FC helps

obsidian nebula
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Nice

dusky tendon
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But you don't have to commit to aq static, prepare to be frustrated tho

obsidian nebula
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how come?

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I mean im always prepared to be frustrated

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😛

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jk

lyric summit
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cause pugs suck ass most of the time

obsidian nebula
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Are statics pugs?

lyric summit
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no, pick up groups, party finder randoms

obsidian nebula
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ah okay - sorry I misunderstood what he was saying that

lyric summit
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if you don't have a static and want to do high end content you'll have to pug

obsidian nebula
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then*

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Yeah, static sounds good - and it's nice if you dont have to be in the same FC/same server.

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I understand what he was saying

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like if you don't commit to a static you have to pug, and pugging is aids.

quick verge
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sometimes

steep iris
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statics can be a blessing or a curse

quick verge
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yes

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there are many horror stories

steep iris
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bad statics can get you some connections tho

quick verge
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they can also put you off of video games

fringe granite
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If a few bad runs put you off of video games

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Something in life needs to be addressed

quick verge
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not what i said

normal sable
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trap statics r worse than trap runs

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fact

untold oyster
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Oh yeah wow has that plugin that tells you everything you have to do

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That’s why I didn’t like raiding in there cesarblush

normal sable
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i mean u can get triggers for ffxiv

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doesn't mean you'll actually clear the content tho

quick verge
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are wow raids hard

normal sable
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no

untold oyster
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I did heroic raids after only playing the game for like 3 weeks

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Ezpz

quick verge
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ok i don't think ive ever seen someone play wow

unreal flax
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WoW raids are "hard" in that you're pushing your buttons waaaaay faster

quick verge
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carpal tunnel is my jam

unreal flax
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At least, that's what I gather from people who say WoW is harder than XIV, but the only thing they ever mentioned is the full second shorter GCD

normal sable
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the raids are 20 man

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so it's less about being good

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and more about not being bad

quick verge
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20 people

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sounds terrible

shadow pollen
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yeah mythics are 20-man and the other main thing is that ressing is extremely limited

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like one charge of Battle Rez every 6 minutes

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on top of that the mechanics are much more punishing to the point where probably the majority is a 1-shot

flat roost
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Aaa. Should I buy the Scaevan Codex for SCH?

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It has spell speed and piety 🤢

normal sable
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snek

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🐍

lyric summit
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yeah just do seiryu ex(tremely easy mode am i right gamers)

quick verge
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haha XD

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im gonna put a pencil through my eye

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but yeah do seiryu ex

normal sable
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its pretty much never worth getting the tome weapon now

quick verge
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it's not too difficult

normal sable
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unless u have an ester waiting

quick verge
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or you play a poverty job

lyric summit
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i400 mch weapon this week umaru

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just need some expert spam to upgrade from my i405

quick verge
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and then upgrade when eureka releases amirite

flat roost
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I'll just get the tomestone wep to make me able to do Ex.

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not gonna run around with a mendacity weapon. 😔

lyric summit
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i mean, it's not a hard hitting fight, you don't need a 390 weapon to clear/heal it properly

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just need big mitigation for add phase and you win

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370 should be enough, or you can clear suzaku ex and get a 385

limpid topaz
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hey i just finished ultima and got minfilia to meet her mom. am i close to unlocking ishgard?

sick tinsel
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You're still far

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100 quest far

kind schooner
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Has Alphascape been loot-unlocked yet (can go into any wing and loot as many items as many times)

steady pebble
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yes, alphascape normal is unlocked

fringe granite
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Except crystalloids

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Those are still weekly

kind schooner
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Im still confused why those dont unlock when the weapons are even capped by genesis too. But cool

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Im conflicted gearing my alt job with alphascape loot because I remember trying to get ONE shaft from A12 back when it got unlocked, I ran it 15 times, even rolled a 97 once and still never got one. . .

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Wouldnt hurt trying to get a belt, shoes and acc from O9 and 10 maybe at any rate

fringe granite
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Maybe 11 as well

flat roost
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A 400 scaevan codex should still be stronger than. Pyros codex for sch right?

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Even with horrible sub stats?

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On that note. Even if Seiryu weapon is 5 ilvl less. Itd still be more powerful due to having crit?

dull radish
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Super good rolls on pyros weapon would probably make it better than aug. tome. Balance SCH channels put seiryu above aug. tome as well yeah

dusky tendon
#

What ilvl is pyros tome?

lyric summit
#

385

dusky tendon
#

Not bad

#

Seems i got some anemos and then pagos to work

lyric summit
#

just kill seiryu, it's easier and faster and higher ilvl and has guaranteed secondaries

sonic sierra
#

Theoretically Pagos could be bis if you wanted to hate your life.

#

Get a nice 2k crit bow on a Bard. After 2342395 years of stat messing

quick verge
#

incorrect because you can't roll stats on the Pagos bow

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Also max pyros stats are 1k

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and the pyros bow is bis at like 700 crit

spring dock
#

Like ur pld dps

quick verge
#

!whologs @spring dock

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

This character has not cleared any current content, Kupo!

spring dock
#

.

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nice

quick verge
#

toxic btw

spring dock
#

!whoami

storm frostBOT
spring dock
#

oh

#

F

quick verge
#

lol nice blu thot

spring dock
quick verge
#

nah

spring dock
#

!whois @quick verge

storm frostBOT
spring dock
#

yah

quick verge
#

my lala has a bigger dick

spring dock
quick verge
#

and the new Eureka weapons will be BiS in 4.5 if you keep your stats

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more so if your bis is a tome weapon because you can roll better stats

glossy musk
#

All crit

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ALL CRIT

spring dock
#

ten Poggers

quick verge
#

can you roll tenacity on tanks

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or dhit

glossy musk
#

DH no, Ten yes

spring dock
#

all ten

glossy musk
#

Crit is best for all tanks though

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Due to scaling

spring dock
#

uhm, crit is disrespectful

quick verge
#

gotta get all ten for the 4.5 ultimate

#

oh wait

glossy musk
#

using ten in any ultimate

#

😟

quick verge
#

I saw a ten build for ucob on pld

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kinda just stared at my screen

glossy musk
#

Some people use ten builds but I didn’t really feel it was needed

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At max ten you get a passive 10% down

quick verge
#

permanent palisade

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jk sike what does palisade do

#

!action palisade

storm frostBOT
#
**Palisade** : lvl 48 ARC BRD MCH (150.0 second cooldown)

Reduces physical damage taken by a party member by 20%.
Duration: 10s

quick verge
#

permanent intervention

#

at the cost of your damage

sick tinsel
#

I use that along with nature's minne on cooldown. When no gcd/ogcd are up

glossy musk
#

It's best to pair Palisade with soft CDs

#

IE Rampart

#

Minne is great for anything that you won't be cheesing (to get stronger shields up) or for adlo spread

quick verge
#

minne is also good for cheesing

#

gotta get the hot largesse + conva + dissipation + minne buffed adlo deploy before 2nd earthquake

flat roost
#

where do I trade in crafted accs for the upgrade?

quick verge
#

rhalgr's reach

flat roost
#

Can I still overmeld it after ilvl upgrade?

quick verge
#

no

sick tinsel
#

No

flat roost
#

🤔

#

Do I want to trade it in then?

quick verge
#

maybe

sick tinsel
#

Is your current gear pentamelded?

flat roost
#

no

#

im thinking of just buying the ring since it's a decent one.

#

Or I could buy the Rakshasha codex and get the scaevan ring instead.

#

could do it both ways I guess.

normal sable
#

as long as youn understand

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yama accessories are not bis

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and you will likely replace them in the future

#

go ahead

flat roost
#

hmmm.

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Do you think I should instead of the tomestone weapon for SCH buy the Raksasha weapon and use my tomestones on good slots like belt, ring and shoes instead?

normal sable
#

no

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weapon first always if possible

flat roost
#

Im not sure if the Scaevan one beats Seiryu weapon tho.

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That's why am indecisive. Seiryu has crit.

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Scaevan might be 400 ilvl but it has Piety and SKillspeed

normal sable
#

390 tome < seiryu < augmented tome

flat roost
#

so it basically gives me nothing in secondaries

normal sable
#

do u have an ester on hand

flat roost
#

ester?

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me noob

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me not know anything.

normal sable
#

tome weapons are 390

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not 400

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u need an ester to make it 400

flat roost
#

Cant I buy it with all the shiny ivalice coins?

normal sable
#

if u don't have an ester, bail on the tome weapon and go get seiryu

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no

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esters can't be bought with coins until a future patch

dull radish
#

for SCH, these are book recommendations

flat roost
#

where me get Ester.

normal sable
#

o11s

flat roost
#

rip.

normal sable
#

big rip

flat roost
#

B I G G E S T R I P

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so raksasha wep and then me get ring and something.

dull radish
#

even if you can get ester, seiryu weapon is suggested over tome haha

flat roost
#

so how does this turn in work?

#

I guess I exchange Raksasha for the tokens, I get 27 for HQ which insta buys me the weapon.

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Then I need doman somethings

sick tinsel
#

You get the doman on mendacity tomestone exhange (others)

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100 for 1

flat roost
#

nice, thank you.

full wave
#

Is Blue Mage endgame?

flat roost
#

ok I am ilvl 383

quick verge
#

of course not

flat roost
#

am I high enough to enter Seiryu training parties?

quick verge
#

it is the endgame

normal sable
#

seriyu is 380 min

#

but ur pf reqs will vary

full wave
#

@flat roost You're high enough to learn and kill it

flat roost
#

thanks u me try

ancient trail
#

Seiryu is forgiving

unreal flax
#

If you thought TsukEX was easy, you'll fall asleep in this one

full wave
#

I never cleared Tsukuyomi. I made a learning party for it once but the fight is just so boring.

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And the transition phase takes too god damn long

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I'm glad they told the fight designers to cut that shit out

unreal flax
#

lol

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Remember Susano?

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Take that fight and make the jumprope shit slightly less punishing

#

and add meteors instead of rocks

rustic lichen
#

However a bonus, no rock games

unreal flax
#

adds phase can be hilarious, though. It's the same as SephEx adds phase, except the adds are easier to wrangle. Big adds cast Stoneskin soooo

thorn bear
#

stoneskin isn't even a wipe

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you can break the stone skin just by dps'ing them

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not like ultros where it is a literal wipe

quaint flower
#

a lot of times 1 mob is not silenced because second tank is not aware silence cd is not short enough for both adds

quick verge
#

Ultros isn't a wipe either

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you can break stoneskin with like a lb1 or 2

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but your tank's ass is gonna be looking like a chasm

errant kayak
#

If pf seiryu farms were reliable soulsurrender

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It’s either a tank not knowing how to do cursekeeper or a sam hitting 3k dps

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And then we enrage wipe

quaint flower
#

if you see enrage on seriyu your entire team is doing 3k

quick verge
#

<3.75k to be exact since the dps check is like 30k

full wave
#

@quick verge Nerd

quick verge
#

I literally opened my phone's calculator and divided 30000 by 8

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s1r

dusky tendon
#

A good dps at that ilvl should be between 5-7k depending on class right?

dull radish
#

more or less, 5k is a bit on the lower side but yeah

dusky tendon
#

As healer i should strive for what? 3k, as a baseline i mean

quick verge
#

about

dusky tendon
#

3-3.5 i’ve seen floating around

dull radish
#

that sounds about right, anywhere near there and people will be pretty dang happy in a pug, where you can still get the content respecting healers meme

dusky tendon
#

I can do 3.34 on dummy, but in a fight i’ve been able to hit 1.8 consistently, but that’s mechanics

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I did 2.8 at one point

quick verge
#

if you're moving then hit ruin 2

dusky tendon
#

Yeah, i need to fix the keybind for that

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It’s on the part that’s not covered by 1 to 0

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For me keeping people alive, having being chadded by q co-healer it sucked losing dps to ineffent heals 😦

quick verge
#

fairy and indom can handle most

dusky tendon
#

I had to use succor to stabilize people after AoE’s because of co-healer

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It barely used it’s own aoe heals, so i was consantly starved

#

Ane usually that’s enough yeah

#

As long as the co-healer helps out now and then

quick verge
#

just let everyone die

dusky tendon
#

If i only was hardwired that way

quick verge
#

it's to prove a point

dusky tendon
#

Yeah i know

#

Actually, i have an opposite problem at times, co-healer topping off after i’ve popped dawn and it will be enough

quick verge
#

my general guideline for healing is if not healing will result in me immediately dying or lead to my death

#

if you won't die to aoe then nobody else will

dusky tendon
#

Yeah

#

That’s where i pop dawn when i know no other aoe is coming in

steep iris
#

if you have to top people off after an aoe, use WD

#

If WD/indom isn't up, use ET succor, but that's only IF you absolutely need to heal people up for that point

#

you don't have to shield every aoe also

#

also if you're doing slightly above 3k on a dummy, you're probably closer to i370

#

in which case 2.5k is probably fine

#

and a good dps at/near bis should be doing around 7k or higher in an avg uptime fight

dull radish
#

Yeah, I was moreso going off of good pug dps with people at just an ilvl for seiryu

steep iris
#

mid 6k is average for a lower pdps class

#

I'm gonna assume that you're (1ndie) talking about normal raids

#

the damage that goes on in normal raids usually never requires shields

#

and always try to prioritize ogcd healing over gcd healing unless it's a loss (example 2 indoms = 260 potency lost vs 1 succor 230 potency lost)

#

and i'm by no means a scholar expert

#

use m2 to weave whenever you can (if mp allows it)

#

and only ruin2 if you have no choice

#

if you end up clipping a lot you're gonna lose a lot of dps due to dropping gcds

dusky tendon
#

Talking about ex

#

m2?

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Ah, miasma 2

steep iris
#

Aim for 2.5k consistently

#

there shouldn't be a lot of damage that requires gcd healing in seiryu ex

dusky tendon
#

Cheers

quick verge
#

anyone know how people do the tiny fist mechanic in o11s

lyric summit
#

M1 R1 M2
H1 R2 H2 behind boss

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top row doesn't move

#

if you have a vertical pair then you go on the partner above you, if you don't then you see which top row matches you

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if it's like
G G B
G B B
then h1 and h2 move to the opposite "corners"

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and r2 goes on r1

quick verge
#

okay so 1 ranged/healer won't have to swap with another im assuming

inland ore
#

Do all star points lock in? Or do they keep getting recalculated over time?

quick verge
#

recalculated

inland ore
#

Hmm, okay.

lyric summit
#

the bottom row matches with the top row, i don't think there's a combination in which you'd have to match sideways @quick verge

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unless someone fucks up

quick verge
#

ok i get it

ornate blade
#

it gets recalculated as long as the best parse for the class changes

kind schooner
#

Whats the ideal way to level up right-side slots right now without genesis or spamming ghimlyt dark over and over

#

If you already have at least i355 so mendacity wont do much

sacred cobalt
#

I would guess alphascape bolts.

#

But I’d go for your second ring w genesis at least.

kind schooner
#

Ah didnt think of that, alphascape normal is like 380 right

#

I capped genesis at 1009 and intent to buy the i390 weapon since I havent unlocked snake yet

#

Altho I wonder now if buying two genesis pieces and keeping my lance at 370 is a better idea

sacred cobalt
#

Yeah it’s 380. (Sorry had a call)

#

And as far as wep I guess just depends on how bad the other upgrades are needed

errant kayak
#

Weapon comes first

#

With 1009 genesis I’m assuming you’re getting two accessories or along the lines of that

#

The cost of each piece of gear directly relates to the ilvl they contribute

#

That’s why weapons are harder to get and why body and legs pieces cost more

#

Unless you’re planning to run seiryu for the weapon

#

But even then you should be going for the body/leg gear first

fathom matrix
#

its actually more fun if you go into a raid blind than know the mechanics tbh

#

and when you learn from it on your own, its even better

stray ridge
#

Is it better to try to get into savage raiding now or wait for 5.0?

rapid sapphire
#

it's good to learn now even if aren't hardcore into it since teaching when it's "old" tends not to happen very often

normal sable
#

wat are u gonna do for 6 months

#

if wait till 5.0

rapid sapphire
#

worse comes to worse you stop part way

fathom matrix
#

i unlocked alphascape savage, but i dont see it

#

where do they go?

torn kindle
#

should be in raid finder.

fathom matrix
torn kindle
#

there should be a bar above the duties labelled something like "dungeon" and "high-level duties"

fathom matrix
#

ohh

#

ty

torn kindle
#

o7

fathom matrix
#

so, do i grind alphascape normal to get their gear, so that i can play aplhascape savage?

#

cuz their ilevel is too high and i only have like ilevel 366

torn kindle
#

yep.

#

there's also crafted gear and genesis gear

fathom matrix
#

i see

errant kayak
#

what do people mean by float in o11s?

#

the memory line thing during level checker?

torn kindle
#

No idea. I'm not knowledgable on endgame content strategies. :X

normal sable
#

floaters are the ones who adjust

#

if the initial small blue-yellow fists are not properly paired up into blue-yellow

#

so if your pair is blue-blue

#

the one who moves is floating

errant kayak
#

is it one float per group?

normal sable
#

yea u have 3 floaters

#

they use it to determine how to spread panto 2 lasers

#

floaters in first is the common aether PF pug strat

errant kayak
#

gotcha thanks

#

are there any other strats i should be aware of, for o11s?

quick verge
#

if you have a paladin then ranged baits blaster

#

ranged does chain of memories

#

ranged also baits panto 2

#

tank lb3 for big fists

quaint flower
#

keep in mind this is how it should be if you are pugging forget about any range doing panto 2 or blaster without a fight

quick verge
#

rest is obvious

#

give them an ultimatum

quaint flower
#

well technically panto 2 is range mechanic

quick verge
#

and there's some uptime strats for casters during panto 1 and 2

#

which involve not standing near the party

errant kayak
#

eh, ill leave that stuff up to the tanks and ranged to decide

#

i just do dps and give people ta

glossy musk
#

I have no fucking idea why pugs want tanks to do panto 2

#

when ranged can do it so much easier and with no dps loss

ancient trail
#

Because lazy bards?

#

Or they are lying on the app and don't actually know how shit works

quick verge
#

5k dps bards

ancient trail
#

I think that's both

normal sable
#

if u let brd take panto 2 aoes

#

u can hallowed the second half of panto lasers as pld

#

and take dps lasers

#

which is pretty huge, being able to resolve panto 2 w/ minimum 6

#

instead of minimum 8

grizzled pendant
#

guys, hell's kier extreme (phoenix) for the part where you rotate to avoid the colors explosions. I tried doing that and a dps said "i'm not gonna bother DPSing if the tank makes the boss go merry round"
Is there a better way to avoid these?

spring dock
#

dps should stop being an asshat for one

#

but you can technically weave between them

#

If timed properly

#

doing it the intended way does inherently make the boss do circles though

grizzled pendant
#

I just tried that weaving method and ended up wiping my grp... i'll just do circles

spring dock
#

Yeah, timing depends heavily on ping

#

if your connection isnt completely consistent you'll probably get fucked up too

quick verge
#

if your connection isn't consistent you have to move early

#

Because your position is snapshot early for hotspot

#

which is why you see many people who move into an adjacent tile still get hit

#

because it snapshot early and they moved too late

#

the inverse is true too

#

moving into a tile seemingly early and not getting hit by hotspot

quick verge
lyric summit
#

can I still ree despite being a mentor

quick verge
#

possibly

quick verge
#

oh no

lyric summit
#

does lower dps increase loot rolls

quick verge
#

yes

lyric summit
#

fuck

quick verge
#

mistakes that also kill party members increase loot rolls

#

bonus if they also kill you

normal sable
#

i won my suzaku mount on a 9 parse

#

can confirm

#

bad dps = good roll

quick verge
#

also wow 4 deaths smh Kappa

lyric summit
#

act with the mch prejudice soulsurrender

normal sable
#

theres a way to set it so turret deaths don't count

#

but i don't play mch umaru

quick verge
#

not that i've seen

lyric summit
#

you'd have to parse pets separately

#

i'm pretty sure

quick verge
steady pebble
#

no

#

or else rika will come to your house and look at you disappointedly

#

which means you better get orange parses or else!

quick verge
#

id hope rika doesn't know where i live

#

😔

steady pebble
#

you handed that information over when you hit 70 on blm

quick verge
#

shit dude

#

i just wanted to be like my idol

#

Laqi Thish

#

😔

dull radish
#

big Laqi fan

dusky tendon
#

Today i am making the plunge into more difficult raiding

#

Well, above normal raids

inland ore
#

Rika will always be the #1 BLM to me.

errant kayak
#

sort of just common pug conventions

#

for o11s panto 1, is the norm circular movement around omega to bait aoes and cards/then intercards to bait lazers?

lyric summit
#

ye

errant kayak
#

is there a norm for how the 3-3 lazers in panto 2 is split?

lyric summit
#

not sure, there's a few different macros floating around

#

sometimes it's 2 sets of melee/ranged/heal, sometimes it's the same inter/cardinal groups

#

sometimes they're 3 on one side and 3 on other, sometimes it's 1 laser on W E and S of the boss

errant kayak
#

mm..okay

#

guess it'll be sorted out when it comes

normal sable
#

everyone on aether pugs it does T

#

east/west/south

glossy musk
#

We do it by small fist groups

#

so that you already know where you're gonna stand

normal sable
#

yea

#

and floaters go in first

#

because they're lambs to the slaughter

stable basin
#

Primal does the same way but static first 🤔

quick verge
#

doesn't really matter tbh

fathom matrix
#

so is it my fault?? during alphascape 4.0, i was marked by an ability called "optimized meteor", i positioned myself in a place where i could be far away from my team, most ppl avoided me and there was a healer next to me that seem lazy to move and he died, so he started blaming me about how i forgot to use shield oath(admittely, i did forget to use shield oath), but i still kept aggro on the Omega Female and other said it was my fault as well

stable basin
#

Default strats tend to vary a bit by datacenter even in the same region

quick verge
#

if nobody dies but 1 person

#

then chances are

fathom matrix
#

only one person died that moment

quick verge
#

they probably did something wrong

stable basin
#

The dmg they take isn't based off how much you take

#

shield oath is irrelevant

fathom matrix
#

but most ppl were blaming me about how i forgot to use shield oath during optimzed meteor, and most ppl were avoiding me during that moment eexcept healer, so i didnt understand why ppl blamed me?

quick verge
#

they're idiots

stable basin
#

Cause people are dumb

#

Probably queued in together

quick verge
#

nobody has to move during optimized meteor

#

if everyone has shields

fathom matrix
#

im still confused...

#

this really bothered me ;l

#

never had this experience

quick verge
#

nothing else to say

#

besides that they're stupid

fathom matrix
#

they said i wasnt drawing aggro, but the enmity list said i was still on top of it

#

sorry, ill stop

quick verge
#

i mean that really isn't your issue either assuming you did a reopener

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

stable basin
#

people are just defective

#

I don't use tank stance pulling my twin in savage

#

granted pld with no nin is a bit harder and people are less likely to use diversion in normal

quick verge
#

pld reopener uses aggro combo anyway

#

because even with a nin

#

it's going to get really close if you have big dick dps

stable basin
#

But aggro is pass/fail and if you're on top as tank that's all that matters

fringe granite
#

I had a random pally in a Qarn party I was in

#

I don't think they quite knew what to do

#

I was playing my BLM and I was tearing aggro off the tank

errant kayak
#

duckling when people say panto1 prog do they mean peripheral synthesis1 prog?

quick verge
#

who knows

vale dagger
#

Are there any casual statics looking for a caster?

inland ore
quick verge
#

wtf fflogs took like 100 dps off of my rdm kill

lyric summit
#

play a real caster

quick verge
#

that's why i leveled blm

#

😔

#

smn sucks

lyric summit
#

don't try me 🔪

inland ore
#

If you get disappointed after losing 100 dps on rdm, oh boy... wait until you play blm.

quick verge
#

don't you lose like

#

several

#

hundred dps

inland ore
#

Typically, yes.

#

Thunder tax is no joke.

quick verge
#

big hehexd

#

brb pull

normal sable
#

several hundred when ur 10k

#

lmao big tax

#

we need higher taxes for high dps classes

quick verge
#

ya gotta become a fflogs warrior

#

son

stable basin
#

I always get big tax on drk

#

feels bad

dull radish
#

it's actually a very specific reason why BLM gets taxed so much

#

ACT just kinda considers damage done in AF to have the AF damage multiplier

#

so when it's estimating how much DoT damage is dealt by party members each tick, it thinks BLM is doing much more of the damage tick than they actually are

#

fflogs however resolves this a bit more precisely and gives a closer approximation, making BLM get taxed a pretty large amount haha

quick verge
#

so the solution is to never use thunder procs while in astral fire

#

😏

dull radish
#

it's not the procs, it's the ticks

#

only way to avoid it is to never have thunder ticking while in AF

inland ore
#

SMN is nice in that you usually get significant refunds.

#

Except in m/f.

#

Then it's just unpredictable what dps you'll end up with.

dull radish
#

just steal DoT damage with firewall, np

quick verge
#

m/f is unpredictable in general

#

sometimes ill gain like

#

70 dps

#

other times ill lose

#

120

inland ore
#

I hate the fight so much.

#

I have little hope of ever getting orange in it.

#

I see getting orange in m/f as a bigger challenge than final.

#

Oh yeah. My static might be trying the blm/smn/sam/brd speedrun meta comp for m/f one day.

#

So I'm going to need to polish the rust off my blm.

#

It's kind of sad, because my drg has the caster chest and I don't.

quick verge
#

wow just

#

get it then

inland ore
#

Maybe someday.

#

Wait, would sam be better than drg on the brd's boss?

#

Oh yes, slashing.

normal sable
#

yea

vale dagger
#

Is there certain strats to make o10s easier like there is in o9s?

normal sable
#

no

#

the hotail window is extremely tight

#

learning the timing takes a bit of getting used to

vale dagger
#

Idk how I died to corners

#

Do you have to be way back in the corner

#

Because I was like semi corner

normal sable
#

corner?

#

i only know the most common set up for it

#

which is spyro

kind schooner
#

The hardest part of getting into a hell kier extreme run is finding a group that isnt set to duty complete, or ilv 380+ blobsweats

#

I bet the actual fight is easier

vale dagger
#

Its either sides or corners after hot tail

#

When it was corners I only moved somewhat corner not all the way and died.

lyric summit
#

i don't think anyone does sides anymore tbh

#

it was probably more popular early in the tier with people doing hot tail vertically/horizontally but now everyone does it diagonally

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i379 and below is pretty low ilvl though, not that hard to get @kind schooner

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we've had i390 tome gear and i380 omega drops for like 4 months now

kind schooner
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I only just rejoined the game like 3-4 weeks ago lol

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So my pieces are like two orbonnes, a few alphascape like the belt and an accessory, genesis boots and I can get and i400 the genesis body today to go to like i375

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Im banking on replacing my wep with a hells kier one to get me to i380 so I can start snake

errant kayak
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completing a fight can be a pain, especially when people who don't know the fight that well sneak into clear parties

kind schooner
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In a prog/clear party now let's see how it goes

errant kayak
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good luck!

kind schooner
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One of the few fights I wish I could zoom the camera out like 2x as much as it can go

errant kayak
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asides from the big guy where you have to watch his hands, you can listen to audio for the snakes

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there's a prominent "sssss" sound that triggers when they appear and on the side they appear relative to you character

vale dagger
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Wait you don't? But doesn't kill you or at the very least give you a vuln stack?

kind schooner
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Well first phase went good, only one death. Second phase is a mess lol

lyric summit
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what are you referring to? @vale dagger

kind schooner
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I ran back in time for Melody but it pulled me over the middle anyway, like I stopped in safety just on the edge and then it suddenly yeeted me into the pit anyway

vale dagger
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O10S corners or sides after hot tail

kind schooner
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Oh thank god theres echo in this trial lol

lyric summit
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i meant people don't dodge to sides, only to corners

errant kayak
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there's echo in seiryu ex?

kind schooner
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suzaku

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Yea

errant kayak
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oh suzaku

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yeah.

kind schooner
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Hopefully then we can beat it before the hour timer lol

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So both of my deaths are to melody pit 😦

errant kayak
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suzaku isn't that bad

kind schooner
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I forgot she casts that during platform explosions

errant kayak
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just get used to when she casts melody

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and surecast/arms length

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the cd is short enough that it's back up prior each knockback iirc

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(or pull in)

kind schooner
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I'll try that ty

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I tried and it ran out as MM went off lol

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Died

errant kayak
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use it only when you see the cast bar

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the cast is < 5sec i think

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or don't cast it too late? the animation takes half a second or so

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it just helps with uptime and juggling other mechanics, but feel free just to adjust by running out if that's easier

kind schooner
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Aww, wiped at 0.5%

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Enrage

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This fight is so stressful I already miss lakshmi and only worrying about instant deaths when you didnt press vril

vale dagger
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Oh I mean way before that phase

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Before the add phase

kind schooner
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Ok arms length doesnt work

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I spam pressed it and it just didnt do anything lol.

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I'll just opt to run away instead

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Oh omg I bound Crutch

lyric summit
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it should work, make sure you're not using it too late or too early

kind schooner
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Yeah I just tried using the wrong ability lmao

errant kayak
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lmao

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arm's length is useful in many fights so have it ready

normal sable
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i don't think arms length works on snek wave anyway

lyric summit
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only on the punch knockback from the middle

errant kayak
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not snek

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but there's no need to on snek

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well you could mitigate the knockback from the wheels

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that's useful during the second time they comeback to ignore the knockback since there's a lot going on

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and might as well pop it during the add phase initially since it's less work adjusting

kind schooner
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Aight got it with 15 mins left and 15% echo, close one

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I learned you can eat someone else's CQC orb and run in that direction instead because mine said left, tried to run to the other side of the arena, and randomly started running right and died lol

dusky tendon
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So, Seriyu is in fact pretty easy

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And healing the add phase is intense

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Didn't get close to a kill today but good practice on adds

stable basin
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Hardest part of snekboi is getting everyone on the same page for the line stacks

dusky tendon
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line stacks were simple enough

errant kayak
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the first line stack is just stack, second line stack after 1st meteors is still fine

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it's usually the third line stacks that pug group fail to adapt since it right after a series of knockbacks

unkempt helm
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New-ish to the game, never touched Savage but friends had me saving up (I think) 1,000 Genesis as well as coins from the raids for a higher ilvl weapon that Seiryu's. Could someone please clarify/remind me what was needed, where to turn it in, etc.?

daring berry
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The exchange counters in Rhaglr's reach

thorn bear
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can you even trade in for a micro tomestone?

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with coins?

daring berry
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At the aetheryte, go forward a bit and turn right.

torn kindle
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no, you'd need 4 weeks of O12N

unkempt helm
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Okay, I understand now 😄 It doesn't help because I thought the weapons were higher ilvl than 390. Whoops.

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Thank you all.

thorn bear
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the coins are for upgrading the weapons

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you can trade in the coins for an item called Scaevan Ester I believe that upgrades the weapons from 390 to 400 @unkempt helm

unkempt helm
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Oh, thank you! I'll look into it. A friend just told me that wasn't in the game yet but who knows

rapid sapphire
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esters for weapons aren't out for casual (non 11s clears) yet

steady pebble
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Ye

thorn bear
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the only thing is that you still need to farm Alphascape V4.0 normal for four weeks to buy a weapon

steady pebble
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it won't be available for a few more patches, most likely part2

rapid sapphire
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probably will be 3 coins/6 peerless logs

unkempt helm
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I have 7 crystalloids but this has me thinking, unless I somehow manage some Savage, I should upgrade my 390 armor with the Genesis I have.

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Since I switched mains

boreal edge
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unless you do savage

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gear is kinda meaningless

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everything can be cleared with crafted i380

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up to latest EX primal

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savage can be also cleared in i380 but u need to be very skilled to do so

stable basin
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My sympathy for the i380 healers who had to keep i380 tanks/dps alive through HW

quick verge
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with jank HW strats

thorn bear
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legendary 0 uptime HW strats

quick verge
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negative uptime strats

stable basin
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"We didn't know there was going to be rot but we've come too far to rip the whole thing up and start over" strats

fathom matrix
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whats better omega normal alphscape 4.0 gear or genesis gear

glossy musk
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Genesis

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380 vs 400

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Err

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380 vs 390

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I think. Either way. Genesis