yes
#endgame-lounge
uncut charm
its somewhat a chicken and egg question sometimes
uncut charm
people are scared of asking because some people are like harsh like bro what in the fuck are you doing???
so they never ask
and they never improve
quaint flower
and then people have the same reactions anyway Rui
dusky tendon
I had a proper toxic member in my old FC
cinder bane
thats why i dont use pf because people are toxic
normal sable
lmao
dusky tendon
The kind of elitist who would berate anyone not performing to their standards
normal sable
people are not toxic
quaint flower
checking logs =/= toxic
dusky tendon
Like downright insult
quaint flower
ignoring guides (both job and boss) and joining clear parties = toxic
not saying it is you because i don't know current you
just general
definition
dire flame
There is definitely merit to not wanting to spend time improving in a game you are mostly just playing to relax. I think the issue is that the end game content isn't made for them in mind then, but that doesn't jive with human behavior.
dusky tendon
If you go into raiding tho
quaint flower
^
cinder bane
haha yeah thats true
dusky tendon
You should seek to improve any way you can
normal sable
THOUSANDS OF HOURS IN THIS ONE MINI GAME MODE
quaint flower
you don't have to but then stick to casual content
uncut charm
it is really more or less the mentality that you carry really
quaint flower
^
cinder bane
i like the glam so, but im probably just retarded at raiding
uncut charm
like last night, I was in this seiryu farm party
this healer messed up twice and he apologized, and says that he feels that his performance is lacking and maybe he should practice more with practice parties first
dire flame
Competitive MMO content is very interesting. It's a fascinating blend of theory crafting into optimization into execution.
dusky tendon
Ninisa. Stop being harsh on yourself
stable basin
There's a plus and minus to FFLogs. I've had people point out a single grey parse and not even read it.
"Yes. Let me fix my shit healers who couldn't keep me alive*".
Those were always fun runs
uncut charm
and asks the party to allow him to leave the party
cinder bane
its not harsh its reality
quaint flower
Willingness to learn is 50% of success, the other 50% is chance that other 7 guys shares your feelings
dusky tendon
And work on fixing where you struggle
uncut charm
no one yelled at him, its good that he acknowledge his mistakes
dire flame
Also, retarded is a pejorative term in this context.
dusky tendon
Calling yourself retardef because you’re learning is only making things worse for you
Seek to improve and practice
quaint flower
at least you acknowledge your current level, some people don't bother even for this
dusky tendon
Agreed blu
uncut charm
that's a reason there is a saying in XIV that the real boss is the 7 other persons in your party
4Head
quaint flower
cinder bane
thanks so much indie for helping me out earlier on sch, i really appreciate it
dusky tendon
I am far from an expert, there are far more experienced scholars here
cinder bane
yes but you are better than i am
dusky tendon
I just shared my own experiences
uncut charm
the very first step is to always know your basic rotation first, and practice it on the dummy to somewhat get it into your muscle memory
dire flame
Yeah, looks like I don't have any logs on fflogs yet.
uncut charm
once you get that, the rest is mostly about understading the fight and what type of movements happens
then you adjust your rotations to it
most people who knows basic rotation alone and understands the fight can do blue parses in general
and for the current state of XIV, that is enough to clear most content
cinder bane
where can i find the sch rotation?
uncut charm
!faq sch
storm frostBOT
uncut charm
!faq schguide
storm frostBOT
dusky tendon
I mean take my advice with a grain of salt as i’ve been 70 for a week
So i’m yet to get into ex trials
wet stag
rui u suck
uncut charm
I know
I'm just a filthy casual where my parse is as blue as my role colour
have mercy
cinder bane
somebody else sent me a different rotation so im confused, i guess i will just stick to this one
lyric summit
just keep dots up and spam broil
dusky tendon
I mean, i was bertated in my FC for saying fairy should be on obey
lyric summit
r2+energy drain when possible, r2 when moving
uncut charm
healer is a little bit more complex than playing DPS
cinder bane
wait it should not stay on obey?
uncut charm
for your parse performance is almost entirely on how good your party is (especially the DPS)
cinder bane
i always control my fairy
lyric summit
it should be on obey
normal sable
Getting good parses for healers is easy
Just chad ur cohealer
chad hard
their points r ur points
uncut charm
HandsUp
normal sable
easy win
dire flame
Perfect plan.
cinder bane
lol
dusky tendon
That healer optimization vid is really good
Making me see the small but significant mistakes i make myself, like wanting everyone to be topped off
blazing flower
Is there a white mage guide by any chance? ;3
dire flame
!faq whmguide
storm frostBOT
dusky tendon
What's the reccomended ilvl for A9s?
dull radish
just making sure, you mean A9S, not O9S?
dull radish
yeah, sure. You usually wanna try to be around 370 since you can pretty freely farm up to that, if not a bit higher
wet stag
i think now people would expect you to be 380 tho
dull radish
380 is pretty free to farm up to now too with omega normal drops being farmable
dusky tendon
Yeah, i'm trying to farm the lens
quick verge
and get a Seiryu EX weapon
sick tinsel
I'm on road to ilvl400. What's the most efficient way of upgrading 390s. Alpha savage or the ivalice raids?
dull radish
well savage is weekly as is ivalice
if you want absolute fastest, you can get upgrade items for tome gear via centurio seals, as well
sick tinsel
Oh I see. Better just do both then
dull radish
yeah
quick verge
just kill the snake boi
quick verge
bet
dusky tendon
bet?
wet stag
bet
zinc vortex
bet
steep iris
bet
dusky tendon
Is that a meme i am missing?
lyric summit
bet
dusky tendon
!faq schguide
storm frostBOT
finite bough
I did not expect to hit these numbers late game https://i.imgur.com/3TA6hv5.png
just how crazy can it go
unreal flax
Even more crazy lol. I've personally hit 24k lol.
dusky tendon
jesus
rapid sapphire
I think I've done a mythical 30k but don't really remember the number
probably was when i used an older macro that was more focused on inner quiet stacks than reducing rng (given I can't be assed to max out on cp with equipment + tea)
so I'll never see that again
wet stag
i hit a 33k once yea
quick verge
bet is just slang s1r
eternal mirage
Is there a rough estimate of how much in substats 1watk equates to?
eternal mirage
In what scenarios would I go otherwise?
eternal mirage
Alright
eternal mirage
Just feels depressing using aug scaevan rod with those substats
boreal edge
substats barely make difference
eternal mirage
Fair enough
dusky tendon
For weapons the damage is more important, how does that rule go for the rest of the gear tho
dull radish
in general higher ilvl is going to win out, there's only a few cases where it doesn't
and most cases are generally going to be tank/healer where they don't
dusky tendon
But say in a case you play a class which is crit dependant
wet stag
and the few cases where they dont are actually so stupid
wet stag
i mean
dusky tendon
Now i know it's not the case
wet stag
if ur talking about brd
dusky tendon
But theoreticly
wet stag
brd is special
dusky tendon
Replace crit with any key mainstat
dull radish
it still ends up being pretty close, but BRD has a high enough crit bias where lower ilvl can make a difference
dusky tendon
I used crit as that was the first thing that popped up
dull radish
but no other job functions as much on a secondary like BRD does on crit
dusky tendon
hmm, interesting
quick verge
mch starts to not function when you get skill speed
wet stag
i mean if youre playing casually
doesnt rly matter
if ur rly trying to push for parses then yea it matters
dusky tendon
Shouldn't you push for results tho even if you raid casually
quick verge
that's a mentality many don't have
dull radish
pushing for performance is one thing, min-maxing gear when there's generally a significant more to gain from playing the job better is another
dusky tendon
So, having done both casual raiding and hardcore raiding. Casual raiders should at least to the extent they can push performance
A hardcore raider will do everything they can to push that performance
Ideally, but not allways
That said, casual raiders tend to get alot of unwarranted crap, yeah alot of them are bad. But you cannot judge a casual raiders on the standard on a raider that seeks to become the 5% of content
quick verge
sure i can judge them
dusky tendon
But is it a fair metric to judge them on?
Given that the two raid on completely different levels
dull radish
people generally aren't going to be expecting higher end raiding level of performance from casuals
just a base level of understanding and effort to know your job at a decent level
like, when I'm seeing people pulling numbers from last expansion, or half of that
that starts to become pretty unacceptable even from a casual point of view
dusky tendon
agreed
quick verge
the biggest issues with players that are uh
"hardcore"
and
"casual"
is that they're inconsistent
every week
or every pull or whatever
it becomes praying to whatever you place your faith in
that they use enough of their brain to remember to do something
it's worse than someone who is just bad at pressing buttons
you can carry someone to an extent
but it becomes impossible when people can't remember a mechanic they've seen 10 or 50 or 100 times
dusky tendon
Trying not to heal as a scholar is a tricky habit to get rid of
I mean i do heal, but like not using GCD's to heal alot but relying on fairy
full wave
@quick verge Since when do you make serious, unironic comments?
quick verge
im not in a good mood
people see fflogs warriors with 2 healing gcds
and want to mimic that
and then let everyone die to raidwide or some shit
and then they're shocked
incredible
quick verge
understanding what you need to do in a certain situation
look at momo's steve healing analysis video
full wave
Oof. It's rare but I have had that happen. It takes all I got not to blow up on them immediately.
normal sable
o he made one for o12s finally
quick verge
i just refuse raise if i die to autos
full wave
Oh ya I forgot you tank
quick verge
the main thing other than having a spreadsheet
is that people are unable to react to changes to the norm
momo's group clearly is able to
like wow xd
quick verge
people that play this game are incapable of learning
and then they're like
XD I FORGOT MY COFFEE
XD
fringe granite
Biscuit this is how I view things like that
"We died to that, what can we do so that doesn't happen?"
full wave
And then everyone stays quiet, the tank pulls, and we wipe even earlier into the dight. @fringe granite
quick verge
strategies
for fucking pugs even
have gotten to a point where you have 1 or 2 things to do
every big boy mechanic in content that pugs do has been trivialized
a good example
forsaken 2
it's braindead because strategies for it are 2 steps
for each role
tanks and healers go east/west for towers
they go to their spots and turn kefka according to what he casts
melee jack off around the boss and go to soak the tower
ranged/casters touch themselves while moving to the towers
wow you did it
and people still can't do it
what's the point of you existing if you can't make a mental note of what to do
zinc vortex
can you stop calling me out like this
quick verge
people can't play for clears
so ok can they do high dps
nope
because they don't know how to optimize uptime
they don't know what greeding is
they don't know the consequences of greeding or how they should greed a mechanic
and on the complete opposite end of the spectrum
people can't do mechanics either
it's not like fucking ultimate where there's several patterns for each mechanic
and communication is important
it's shit like hello world
where the short stack dies 200% of the time
or someone can't stand on their marker
where people can't avoid the C marker to not take rot
am i toxic for expecting people to follow a schedule like my cat can
inland ore
I take it you've been having a bad time in pugs today?
dull radish
/soothe
steady pebble
its frustrating to deal with people who don't bother to try
somedays you just don't have the patience to deal with their shit
dusky tendon
biscuit to clarify, it's not that i'm not trying to heal
It's that i'm working on learning when to dps and when to heal
I could have worded it better
But no, i'm not trying to pull dps out of my arse at the cost of those around me
dusky tendon
wth is chadding
quick verge
being retarded
dusky tendon
Right, no. If i play badly i take responsibility for it
normal sable
dusky tendon
And atm i am playing like shit, given i just redid keybinds xD
normal sable
2 chads = no clear = no parse
1 chad = clear w/ good parse
0 chads = clear w/ bad parse
dusky tendon
nvm, plugin won't be needed
and holy moly that OH %
If i'm learning as a healer, is it worth uploading alphascape normal logs
Or should i begin upload parses when i start hitting ex trials?
untold oyster
I mean alphascape normal logs are gonna make you seem better than you might be since there’s tons of logs of random players that people might upload
normal sable
the bar for normal parses are fuckin trash
dusky tendon
I don't want to seem better tho, i want to be able to be ask for feedback
Because i looked at the two clears i did tonight in v2 and v3 while practicing and farming parts, 33 and 40% OH
desert trench
Nothing wrong with using normal logs to evaluate performance - so long as you or someone else know what you're looking at
doing content semi blind/without a plan, that level of overheal is pretty fine
dusky tendon
Yeah it's semi blind learning the fights
desert trench
overheal doesn't start dropping significantly until you start making plans with healing partners; it's a tricky beast
dull radish
yeah overheal isn't always the most immediately useful metric
it's something to consider when optimizing a healing plan or if something's going wrong (like bottoming out on MP, for example), but absent more of a level of optimized healing/mitigation it being a bit higher is relatively expected
lyric summit
yall related or whaddup
inland ore
I believe Vanih is one of the preset last names.
dull radish
it is, indeed
dusky tendon
I haven't bottomed out on MP when healing , yet
Except when i've died to stupid things that's easily aboidable and i've been to focusedo n trying to heal and dps at the same time
avoidable
normal sable
u only bottom out if ur dying
meta comp has refresh + shift to cover u
so you gotta actually die multiple times to really bottom out
or overheal like crazy
dusky tendon
That's true
thorn bear
if ur a chimp like me and use alot of succour to mititgate raid wides then you'll run out of mana
real quick
quick verge
having low piety
using a lot of gcd heals
not having refresh/mana shift bots
dying
pressing your dps button(s)
lyric sandal
that broil shit costs so much mp
tawdry matrix
Less so than Adlo spam :p
Generally it will take quite some time till you run out of Mana if you try to DPS
lyric sandal
it's fine until I start using Miasma II for weaving
that shit is horrible but it's also the most efficient
casting Ruin 2 feels yuck
storm frostBOT
tawdry matrix
It's AOE of course you would run out of Mana D:
quick verge
it's still the best weaving tool
lyric sandal
but it's what you want to use to weave oGCDs
blazing pelican
It's also not a loss like Ruin II
A lot of times clipping is better than Ruin II
lyric sandal
that's why mp can hurt real bad as SCH if you're trying to full DPS, even without any hardcast heals
I kinda hope they add Ruin IV for SCH or whatever in ShB
so we can weave with a single target
storm frostBOT
lyric sandal
I mean you can always Ruin 2 weave when you're low so it's not the end of the world, just feels kinda bad in pubs if you don't have a BRD or they don't play Refresh early(like most pubs)
thorn bear
yeah I think miasma II does the same damage as broil II
storm frostBOT
wet stag
200p vs broil 2's 230
hybrid rapids
Energy drain, double weave
3 or 4 clips might cost you a GCD, which is 230 potency lost 
Healing is a potency lost too
Chad your co healer hard enough
hybrid rapids
ffxiv is a dps game
spiral sable
yo .. what food should i make and sell @ the marketboard?
quick verge
shakshouka and rooibos tea
spiral sable
cool thanks
finite bough
quick verge
step 17
fringe granite
What are your crafting stats?
Also Custom Deliveries are easier to make and pay better
lyric sandal
only get 12 a week though
finite bough
1417/1157
quick verge
interesting
tropic path
Just a quick questions does the off tank taunt during Cursekeepers or right after cursekeeper?
quick verge
during
tropic path
thanks
finite bough
the poor ninja dps
finite bough
i got my first o9s clear today and chaos only briefly started soft enrage before dying
lyric summit
it's rdm on the safest arena in the tier ofc it's easy 
quick verge
nah pld main btw
every other job is hard
what places do you use apoc btw
i was thinking the add phase
and when they're taking autos after the first tb or whatever
dull radish
yeah like really the only time I look to apoc is if someone is low and/or with a vuln stack going to be taking magic damage
otherwise it's pretty mediocre in the fight
maybe for dragon add cleaves if it's taking forever to die?
normal sable
apoc on the tank w/ the add really helps
dull radish
it's annoying that the add's autos are physical haha
dull radish
I'm used to the thing just kinda dying before there's anything of concern, but I know it gets a bit sketchy if it takes longer yeah
inland ore
I usually just apoc the blue tank during the adds phase.
And then just apoc someone with vuln stack.
The boss's autos when he's flying are magic though, so you could use it to mitigate those.
quick verge
mhm
dull radish
yeah for whatever reason flying autos are magic, and autos on ground are physical
it's so bizarre but that's what it is haha
blazing pelican
not really
quick verge
your eyes prob
lyric summit
use dark mind
full wave
Fuck you SE
lyric summit
just use dark mind and see if it mitigates easy
quick verge
im good at making images
blazing pelican
fuck yeah mana shift
lyric summit
ur so cool
quick verge
nah u
blazing pelican
I give it to BLMs who don't pay attention so they get an extra Fire IV and fucks up their rotation
quick verge
im gonna give it to plds
normal sable
wat a mad lad
quick verge
brb 12 minute in progress roulette
there's also a big brain apoc you can do in 11s
where you apoc the blaster tether but not the atomic ray
so it's useless
flat roost
Should I buy a lvl 380 weapon for SCH?
Can you upgrade crafted weapons to higher ilvl?
rapid sapphire
390 crafted upgrade is with mendacity
lyric summit
both genesis and crafted have shitty secondaries though, i'd go for seiryu ex
rapid sapphire
^
flat roost
but if im potat who is not lvl 70 yet
Isn't getting a 380-390 weapon p hard outside of Ex?
lyric summit
just takes time, need 4 weeks of o12 normal and 3 weeks of capping genesis, so 4 weeks in general
for i390
rapid sapphire
if it'll be your first 70 weapon then there are worse choices (390 crafted makes critlos less often)
lyric summit
it was reduced with 4.5
rapid sapphire
4 weeks was part of 4.5
flat roost
Oh.
wait rly?
Then I just need to bust a nut on farming Genesis tomes
I have 4 right now
It was 1k genesis 4 Crystals then?
rapid sapphire
yes. my equip plan was broken ever so slightly post 4.5 (needing to get 1000 tomes next week for another weapon)
flat roost
I havent farmed genesis this week at all
Oh boy this is going to be fun.
Ill put leveling on hiatus now and spam Alphascape for my dear life
rapid sapphire
expert + 24 victim roulette should do the trick in time for monday
rapid sapphire
2 am cst, midnight pst tuesday
flat roost
Thanks
rapid sapphire
withouth expert roulette to spam daily it's more difficult 😐
(well do once to avoid burnout)
fringe granite
Flan have you not done MSQ yet?
rapid sapphire
I've done 4.5 msq already, was replying to shibe not having expert rou unlocked
only thing i don't have personally is mentor roulette (thordan, containment bay ex)
sick tinsel
Anyone knows around what time the genesis cap will be doubled?
rapid sapphire
likely in 4.56
dusky tendon
So i'm currently gearing two classes at the same time. The scaeva weapon is better for my dps class
But i enjoy the scholar aswell and want to improve that, do i get the weapon for the class it's actually got the better stats for*?
rapid sapphire
if talking the 390 weapons there's no difference primary stat wise. the secondaries though on both aren't optimal for scholar use (crit)
full wave
What are these fucking mongrel healers doing during this add phase where people randomly die
Maybe damage spells should be locked from healers, because too many of them are too damn stupid to know when to use them
steady pebble
or maybe if you find pugs so frustrating to play with you should find a group of people to play with
cos removing damage spells from healers ain't going to solve stupid healers
full wave
Thanks Kael I never thought of that
And then that dickhead removed everyone but his shit friends.
His excuse was I kept standing in the proximity aoe in the first phase.
Even though there's no raid wide in the first phase
rapid sapphire
full wave
Fucking kill me
dull radish
if you're going to be that angry, #rants is the more appropriate channel to rant in. That being said, frequently people nuking adds too fast in adds phase is more the issue than healing, though of course it can be that as well
full wave
There. Less angry
quick verge
just dont die
lyric summit
99% of add phase deaths is people being too gready to realise they're killing themselves by padding
quick verge
invest in divine veil
dusky tendon
Yeah, it's between scholar 390 or ninja 390
lyric summit
or just don't silence the 2nd stoneskin
full wave
I even held dps a bit so they don't all die at the same time
But they do anyway, and at least one person dies
dull radish
well, that's not on the healers, then
that's still on everyone killing the adds all at once
dull radish
it's frustrating sure, especially if you hold dps to try to avoid that happening
been in that situation too
full wave
@dull radish They didn't top people off before the transition either
dull radish
but it's not something you can blame on the healers
full wave
I'm never aoeing in the add phase again
rapid sapphire
lance: I don't know what to say. can't fix stupid (when you do your part but the rest cause a wipe. cough thunder buddies boss in monastary)
lyric summit
bruh i had pulls where i didn't use a single gcd on the 2nd wave of adds cause i forgot to hold reload and wanted ammo for reopener and people still died
dull radish
sephirot ex and seiryu ex both have the similar behavior in an adds phase
rapid sapphire
I can only think of sephrot ex
dull radish
where upon death, big adds explode for a lot of raidwide damage, small adds explode for a smaller amount of raidwide damage
lyric summit
if you don't silence the 2nd stoneskin then the big one will be immune when people are padding the small ones and it'll get removed late enough for it to still have hp left when people can be healed
dusky tendon
Ah, gotcha
dull radish
I can't think of that behavior in st mocianne's arboretum, nm or hm, or any dungeon for that matter
only those two fights in particular
dusky tendon
Is the damage to high for a scholar damage prevention setup?
dull radish
you could probably try to mitigate but in the end it really falls on the party to not be dumb and kill everything at the same time
since there's a few waves of adds
lyric summit
nah idk it just feels like that
rapid sapphire
probably same spawn behavior as nm (time or number of kills)
full wave
I feel better. I found a good group.
steady pebble
You can take my comment as snark if you want, but its not intended to be that. Its quite sincere considering you often post about your trash pug groups and have made comments about how the game's community makes you dislike the game for various reasons. So either you take away the problem (doing pug content by finding a group to play with or stop doing the content) or you learn to deal with the fact that you're going to get various skill levels in party finder and not let it get to you so badly that it affects how much you enjoy the game. Its like stabbing yourself repeatedly and then whining about the fact that you're bleeding.
lyric summit
full wave
A 7% wipe osn't a trap
quick verge
it is
normal sable
huge insult btw
7% on a primal ex is pretty trappy
then u said 7 people died
even trappier
full wave
@normal sable I'm not talking about Biscuit. Everything he says is a meme. I'm talking about you because you're just a sarcastic asshole.
And it wasn't a trap. We cleared the next pull with 6/8 of the same people.
full wave
No. The 2 people that left were just impatient. They didn't die until we wiped.
normal sable
ur not gonna convince me that a duty complete party that enraged w/ 7 deaths isn't a trap
lmao
how do u even enrage on seiyru
the dps check is like 30k
vital cypress
7 deaths plus pug damage
ornate blade
rapid sapphire
hmm (trying to decide if i should augment tank accessories for 500 whoopie hp but lose direct or just save up for other things)
rapid sapphire
yeah i think I'll probably just upgrade other things first (leg/body)
lyric sandal
390 good for left side other than belt
but not good for accessories
and good for weapon obviously if you don't have seiryu
rapid sapphire
I'm too trash for snek ex so might be a while before somethin gdecent there :<
royal beacon
Any Summoners on here willing to give me some advice? I've been holding Bahamut during add phase to avoid wiping groups by killing the adds too quick, but summoning Bahamut straight away after phase transition always seems to end up with my rotation being real janky for the rest of the fight. Any tips? Should I just summon Bahamut and pray for good healers haha?
For Seiryu Ex, should specify
rapid sapphire
I would suggest quick trance so get a use of bahamut before adds but that would then give extended downtime after 😐
quick verge
don't hold bahamut
quaint flower
Lmao
Your bahamut is not a god
Summon him without a delay
Everybody pads on adds, Summoner no exception 
quick verge
you lose like
1 aetherflow
if you delay the use of padhamut during add phase
healers adjust
lyric summit
I don't think the 1st adds are ever an issue so bahamut shouldn't be a problem
flat roost
I just had a normal alphascape v2 that we had to abandon. People were dying left and right. The last one was a fight that took 4 healer LB3 and 20 or so rezzes from me as a RDM. 😔
The dps was so slow too. Usually ive seen him die in 1 LB 3 and almost a LB 1
There had to be people with broken gear.
dusky tendon
Nah, they weren't paying attention to mechanics
alphascape v2 isn't a hard fight, but you need to know the mechanics of it
And learn the spin patterns
Double sideways, Point blank AoE. Double into normal spin, Circular AoE outside of the middle
Double normal spin, cross shape pattern
As long as those are remembered, the fight isn't the most difficult
sick tinsel
Normal raid roulette?
Been having problems with pf clears having lots of baddies up until I started putting 
Can you speak Japanese 
lately the carry is real
dusky tendon
I'm almost at a level where i feel confident about starting practice parties myself
382 enough for seriyu ex?
full wave
Go for it
glossy musk
390 lmfao what
full wave
Dude so many Primal pfs are asking for 390
dusky tendon
390 for a trial that gives 395 weapon?
full wave
I regret taking that break
full wave
I just wamt my 395 Katana
glossy musk
I've never even seen enrage
dusky tendon
I want the 395 scholar codex
dusky tendon
Question in regards of PF, even if you write practice party, how do you avoid those idiots expecting clears
dusky tendon
Like you write in all CAPS this is a practice party do not expect clears
glossy musk
dusky tendon
And someone joins expecting clears anyway xD?
quick verge
nice macro
glossy musk
to be fair we beat it in one lockout, it's real easy
so I would think most practice parties will be clear
full wave
I've done that before but I stayed the entire time because it wouldn't be fair for them to leave
dusky tendon
I mean, i'm probably making it more dramatic than it actually is
dusky tendon
Nah, as a healer who's never done the fight
glossy musk
I just went in blind day 1 and we stomped it
full wave
Just ask how much experience everyone has before going in
dusky tendon
Wouldn't be fair
glossy musk
it took us I think 30somewhat minutes?
dusky tendon
I'd need a few attempts to get mechanics down myself
glossy musk
only part that jebbaits you is the double laser now causing vuln
cause it's like oh this is the same as WAITWHAT
dusky tendon
Ah
full wave
Except I think Chungus is in the backround during some of them
quick verge
the land
glossy musk
THE LAND THE LAND THE LAND
full wave
I thought Seiryu was shouting that at first and was disappointed they didn't voice it
quick verge
all the water in the arena is really distracting
full wave
Even though this is the easiest extreme since Lakshmi this is the most fun I've had
full wave
Probably ya
I love that Yoshi explicitly asked them to tone the intermissions down
I guess he got sick of farming them too
quick verge
suzaku byakko and tsukuyomi is really
xdddd
tsukuyomi could've just had zenos as the add phase
and byakko with hakutei
and then you go back to killing them
but in general
they really need to stop with these intermissions
it was okay with thordan
full wave
They made Byakko's intermission easier in extreme for some reason.
It didn't have a set pattern in nornal
quick verge
you stay in the center
and tab out
they should've made the minigame where you collect orbs to get damage up
full wave
Or have us bounce back orbs to damage him
quick verge
phantom train has one of the best intermissions
because it ends with you chunking its hp
amazing game design
quaint flower
what Byakko ex version was easier?
I thought it was the same
it was pointless cancer anyway
glossy musk
It was fun the first one or two times
but that's the problem with MMOs
they're designed for you to spam the shit out of it
glossy musk
The DDR intermission in Suzaku was fine though cause it was short and gave a nice buff
but the animation she does after is so slow
quaint flower
it wasnt short in ex
glossy musk
she should do the animation DURING the DDR
quaint flower
and buff was weak
quaint flower
it kinda feels like 4% for 10 stacks
lyric sandal
should be DDR during colors
errant kayak
For o9s, is cyclone knockback negate-able? Or is it just earthquake.
normal sable
no yes
errant kayak
👌
dull radish
yeah, you specifically need to take a knockback to cleanse the wind debuff
and if you don't cleanse wind debuff, you get hit up in the air, take a decent bit of damage, take a damage down debuff
so while you can prevent the knockback, unless the fight is like, about to end, it's not something you should do
errant kayak
Ah kk
I’m just usually a bit scared of casting too much during the knockback so that I don’t turn around
Often resulting in a loss of 1gcd
quick verge
you can cast until a bit after the knockback indicator thing disappears
normal sable
the first knockback resolves before the damning edict cast is finished
the second knockback resolves right when the cast bar for iirc its knockback? finishes
greed the gcd, u won't
dull radish
the second one happens at like 12s on the debuff timer, I forget the timing on the first one as precisely
inland ore
I believe it's 5s or 6s.
I've always operated under the rule that I should turn around by 6s, and it seems to work fine for me.
fading shoal
so which chest is left behind if you're doing 1 chest clear?
fading shoal
gear or gear upgrade?
oh
can you get lb in time for o11s if you have 1 double class
dull radish
you'll get the one for the tank LB post-level checker phase since the towers build set LB that's not affected by double jobs
for the tank LB strat for red fists, not super sure
opal hollow
does LB generation even get effected by having multiple duplicate jobs compared to having 1 set of duplicate jobs
e.g. 2 RDM vs 2 RDM + 2 BRD etc.
dusky tendon
Hmm, i'm starting to do okay as a scholar, at least as far as normal content goes lol
And yes, i know that's not a great measurement
1.8k dps and 8k healing out last Alpha v4 normal
normal sable
that's terrible
dusky tendon
Yeah, dps it crap, i'm working on that
quaint flower
respect that you are working on it on normal raids first and not on savages 
dusky tendon
I'm doing it in conjunction as i grind for parts for other classes
full wave
Farming Seiryu is hard
normal sable
full wave
What kind of person jumps into an MMO and doesn't want to communicate with their team?
fringe granite
Lance I haven't even gotten to that point yet
wet stag
Jp macro master race
opal hollow
who needs communication when you have m a c r o s
lyric summit
what dc are you on lmao
i've had like zero issues farming seiryu and i'm at 33 kills
full wave
Primal
full wave
I can't help it if I'm locked out of half the parties
Why do people need 390 for this fight
fringe granite
No idea man
unreal flax
Where does it rank in difficulty among the SB primals?
unreal flax
Yowza
full wave
Above Susano too
glossy musk
Nah susano had a few ways you could kill people on accident
Literally only thing here is double laser
And that just requires 2-3 people per stack
I like the curse mechanic though. I wish they would have done AOE during it so you had to shield them
glossy musk
Kek
normal sable
fringe granite
Closest I've gotten is enrage at 4%
quaint flower
there is enrage 
?
full wave
I'm not happy with my damage
I lose a lot of uptime in there
Most of it os my fault but other times the ranged feel the need to run all the way to Narnia
quick verge
show
full wave
It was learning party. We hit enrage at 20%.
It wasn't a death problem. One or two of the dps were doing far worse
I'm talking sub 4k
fringe granite
That's probably the ballpark
I want to clear I genuinely do
I just don't want to when everyone else has already moved on
full wave
Have you thought of healing or tanking
fringe granite
Not high enough
full wave
What job are you
fringe granite
My samurai is 390
fringe granite
And I know I'm not doing damage befitting that
full wave
I have to practice on a dummy constantly because I feel like if I don't I'll probably forget the rotation
full wave
Have you read the guide?
fringe granite
Yes
full wave
I'm not good at memorizing multiple openers so I just looked at the easiest one.
fringe granite
I don't think that guide was written having my sks in mind
full wave
I think I use the opener for quick first phases
dusky tendon
Hmm, i have way underestimated emergency tactics
normal sable
can't really think of a fight where you'd want to use that this tier
opal hollow
what's even the dps check for seiryu SSS dummy
unreal flax
Actually, I should go and check myself on that dummy
full wave
It gets me through fights
fringe granite
What I usually do is get my buffs up
fringe granite
Throw in a Kaiten Higanbana if possible
thorn bear
how do you not beat the seiryu ex dummy
with 390
I did it just now and beat it with 30 seconds left
fringe granite
How do you expect perfection out of everyone
thorn bear
perfection
you shouldn't look at my samurai parses if
you think perfection is a thing
fringe granite
No one's knowledge of their job is encyclopedic
opal hollow
6.3k dps is the requirement for SAM on seiryu ex SSS dummy btw
dusky tendon
Also, it doesn't mean you can beat the boss if you can beat the dummy
It's a difference between static and actual mechanic dps, so dummy should be taken with a grain of salt
opal hollow
i mean
the dps check
should be beatable with last tier gear
let alone this tier
just hitting my GCDs and OGCDs without an opener
i killed it lol
normal sable
could actually beat the o12s sam dummy
with diamond gear
lmao
the sam dummies are super easy
thorn bear
my knowledge of samurai is "do ur rotation" and "save up kenki for gurren laymao"
dusky tendon
You can also cheese the dummy by using chocobo for some silly reason
quick verge
my knowledge of samurai is slashing debuff
opal hollow
same
full wave
I beat the 012s dummy at 380 but my crits were just lucky
normal sable
same
how is it luck
the dps check is like 6800
u could do that with bis from sigma
full wave
On a dummy or in a fight with your group optimising for burst and shit
normal sable
on a fucking dummy
full wave
I mean a video of this in action
full wave
I don't care about the simulation. I need to see it in practice
unreal flax
4628 on WAR at i380 with Suzaku Axe. Still wearing some i370 pieces lol.
quick verge
see video of what
unreal flax
I guess someone in BiS actually doing 6800+ or something ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Seems like a pretty weird hill to die on, but whatever
normal sable
i can do almost 7500
on a dummy in 400 gear
Here's a dummy parse where I intentionally played incorrectly back in november
I was probably around 390ish?
So gear you could get easily now
I intentionally flubbed my opener
Intentionally kaitened every kasha and gekko
just shy of 6900 dps lmao
SAM dummy is an absolute joke
DPS check on it should be raised to like 7150
full wave
His damage is still good
thorn bear
oh hey
quick verge
what's his damage
normal sable
you can have a retarded opener
and still do good damage
just ride ur fuckin gcds lmao
thorn bear
hey that's me
full wave
7.6k dps
quick verge
gj
full wave
Oh that's you
thorn bear
that video isn't me
full wave
Oh
normal sable
gj he got good rolls in a 3 min fight lmao
thorn bear
i'm referring to when momo said retarded openers
normal sable
I think he's actually optimizing
full wave
Yes
lyric summit
on a dummy? not a chance lol @quick verge
full wave
They have 2 positionals
quick verge
nah im gonna try
opal hollow
quick verge
im a god at this game remember
lyric summit
maybe in full i400 with omega weapon
opal hollow
hmmmmmmm
normal sable
fight me
lyric summit
I get 7.8k on smn with a rushed bahamut
normal sable
#godgamer
lyric summit
rdm sucks more tho
quick verge
mods
thorn bear
rdm is so easy
thorn bear
thorn bear
he did it after jinpu right?
normal sable
wait he fucking
potted
on a DUMMY
right before his first kasha he uses a pot
lmao what
lyric summit
excited for 5.0 tbh cause it'll give me a reason to play sam for more than 3 minutes