endgame-lounge

[dense chasm]

I spent 400k gil in 5 hours

[hybrid rapids]

My point is try to save gils and earn some haha

[dense chasm]

Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will try to get my other crafters up in step.

[hybrid rapids]

For more in-depth like crafting/gathering rotations and/or suggestions of melding

You can join balance discord to ask as well

I’m not good enough for all

[dense chasm]

Balance?

[hybrid rapids]

Since I just follow guides

It’s in pinned message

[dense chasm]

Ok thank you!

[hybrid rapids]

Assign gatherer and crafters role

[opal hollow]

Wasnt there a pretty in depth crafter guide in kupo

!faq crafterguide

[storm frost]

Error!

No tag named crafterguide exists, Kupo!

[hybrid rapids]

Sadly no

They were mostly balance mentors’ guides

If they not giving permission, so it isn’t added

Simply add without permission is rude to the author imo

[quick verge]

gosh m/f is so hard

why can't you carry people through it

[blazing pelican]

because Limit Cut is designed to kill stupid people

it's why I die to it every 4 runs

[quick verge]

the hardest mechanic is beyond yeetfense

every 3 runs i get clipped by it even at max melee

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/20b5a8fe1196dc077c344a569db2241e

look at all those friends

[quick verge]

can't relate

:^)

[high ether]

friend for a kill

[quick verge]

i want to kill my friend

[scenic patrol]

I want to kill biscuit

I mean kill for friend

[quick verge]

same

uwu

[boreal edge]

@lyric summit "i am both pf leader and that friend looking for kill"

[hybrid rapids]

Spearya static disbanded?

Or trying luck on PF

[boreal edge]

@hybrid rapids my static disbanded?

[hybrid rapids]

Kill for a friend

You were the friend?

[boreal edge]

i was making the joke

[hybrid rapids]

[boreal edge]

kill for friend

pf has 1/8

[hybrid rapids]

I meant if you joined my party

You will be my friend

And you’re helping me to kill

Logic

[boreal edge]

[heavy quail]

Does someone know if you need to be getting stats on your pyros weapon ?

In the sense that when we upgrade it again in hydros, will they just remove these RNG stats and add new ones?

[hybrid rapids]

we don't know yet

but very likely we're able to reset stats later

[heavy quail]

I reeeeeeally dont want to farm light

[quick verge]

It'll probably just keep your current stats

Iike the anima weapons

and gradually improve them until the final step

[hybrid rapids]

yes, but still able to reroll it

that's what happened to anima weapon

so very likely

but it's only speculation at this point

[quick verge]

o9s line strat is fun

[wet stag]

Fuckin right?

It's so braindead too

[quick verge]

aye

but i bet it's not as fun as clearing o12s

[wet stag]

I think 9 is more fun than 12 tbh

[quick verge]

they should buff the hp regen on grit souleater

should i ever have to solo a boss again

[stable basin]

yeah

the regen on that feels pretty sad

[quick verge]

but i guess it's OK

at best

with the sick TBN on cd

[boreal edge]

@quick verge what line?

[rapid sapphire]

all SE would have to do is revert the hp gained back from soulnom back to what is was at end of HW (half damage returned)

maybe not quite that much but would be better than hope for the best that timing on sole survivor worked

[quick verge]

it'd be worse than what we have

[blazing pelican]

they could also revert blood price to not being Grit dependent, buff the MP gain, and do the same with Blood Weapon

[wet stag]

Nah bp being grit dependent is fine

[quick verge]

increase mp gain based on damage dealt

epic victory royale

hit a dcrit bloodspiller and regen all of your mp

[quaint flower]

If you want to buff mp any further, DA cost has to be increased

then again I refuse to believe DA won't be reworked completely

I want it to become a stance, something you press few times per fight, not 100 times

[wet stag]

is ur issue with drk the playstyle or balance anyway

[quaint flower]

lol

BOTH

It is very hard to decide which more

[quick verge]

I wike pwessing dawk awts

uwu

[quaint flower]

5.0 We get another gcd called Dark Arts 2. Now you have to press Dark Arts in order to press Dark Arts 2

double weaving every ogcd

[quick verge]

That gets me slightly wet

[wet stag]

what your issue with balance anyway

[quaint flower]

lack of identity. We are not prog tank, we are not end game tank, we are not speedrun tank. Our only adventage is magical defense

[wet stag]

if youre not doing lb cheese drk war is meta

[lyric summit]

drk has big identity

[quaint flower]

why would you not do lb cheese

[wet stag]

log runs

rather than speed

[lyric summit]

tfw ffxiv jesus reborn protects you from damage in the blackest night every 15 seconds

[quaint flower]

pretty sure pld and war is meta in log runs

[wet stag]

drk does more damage on final omega

nope

pld isnt meta bc low damage

[quaint flower]

''low damage''

the difference is so small

it is now HW

[ancient trail]

Lower than WARgod

Lol

[blazing pelican]

PLD is meta because of group mitigation

[wet stag]

oh lol

kk fair point

[blazing pelican]

The benefits of the PLD kit outweigh DRK dps

[wet stag]

@ midori

[quaint flower]

especially considering the difference in damage is a lot smaller than it was in HW

[wet stag]

wait wtf

war overtook drk on final

[blazing pelican]

!classlogs PLD

[storm frost]

Error!

Command is missing argument: first: str. If you need help please use !help <command>

[blazing pelican]

_>

[wet stag]

for final omega

[quaint flower]

In HW we had 200/300 dps difference between tanks

now it is 50/100

[lyric summit]

and tanks only did like 1.5k dps then

[wet stag]

ok thats difference between tanks

[quaint flower]

HW DRK also had group mitigation

even 2

this is what I want for the balance. Keep your War a god if you want but make 1 tank prog friendly and 1 tank speedrun friendly with visible difference

like RDM and SMN/BLM

[wet stag]

i mean

[quaint flower]

Buff PLD mitigation even further beyond

but at the same time downgrade his damage

[wet stag]

you cant really say war is a god

when theyre <5% dps ahead

[quaint flower]

delete lb cheese, prog meta would be War/PLD and speedrun/log would be war/drk

[wet stag]

!action divine veil

[storm frost]

**Divine Veil** : lvl 56 PLD (120.0 second cooldown)

Upon HP recovery via healing magic cast by self or a party member, a protective barrier is cast on all party members within a radius of 15 yalms.
Duration: 30s
Barrier Effect: Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP
Duration: 30s
Effect ends upon additional HP recovery via healing magic.

[wet stag]

i think youre overvaluing party mitigation but sure i guess

[quaint flower]

say it to all top teams

[wet stag]

it's true that shake and veil are great since they save lives

[quaint flower]

who are progging and speedrunning with war/pld

yes we have few exceptions

few

[wet stag]

but ive personally popped tbn on people and they live with 400hp left

quite a few times

[quaint flower]

you can say the same thing about PLD intervention

[wet stag]

the difference there is the dps cost

[quaint flower]

what cost

[wet stag]

intervention costs gauge, no?

[quaint flower]

you don't have much of use and it is easy to cap

[wet stag]

thats a shield swipe proc theyre missing

potentially

[quaint flower]

not really

half minute it takes to get 50

and you have bulwark too

[wet stag]

and shield swipe comes every 15s

[quaint flower]

that's assuming you are tanking boss

[wet stag]

yeah but they can sheltron raidwide damage

get more procs

[quaint flower]

raidwide damage is not every 15s

besides what you were talking about is mistake situation

[wet stag]

it's not but all im saying is that it's a potential 100 potency loss

[quaint flower]

if you needed tbn to save somebody

there was a mistake

[wet stag]

while tbn is dps neutral if youre not an idiot

and is a dps gain in some cases

[quaint flower]

still doesn't change if party member requires this skill to survive there was a mistake

mistakes are not supposed to happen at log/speedruns

[wet stag]

have you seen momo's o9s healing video

they use veil like

once

[quaint flower]

veil is dangerous at certain parts

in o9s

because of you must die debuff

[wet stag]

yeah they use it for the first tsunami

and also its just not worth it

the value you get doesnt save a healer gcd

[quaint flower]

why they didn't take DRK then

[wet stag]

bc they dont play drk

simple as that

[quaint flower]

of course

[blazing pelican]

yeah veil is tricky to set off when you're purposely going for uptime

luckily shake is better

[wet stag]

unbuffed shake is

but yeah shake is p good

it was also a mistake

[blazing pelican]

!action Raw Intuition

[storm frost]

**Raw Intuition** : lvl 56 WAR (90.0 second cooldown)

Parries all physical attacks taken from the front. All attacks taken from the flank or rear will result in critical damage.
Duration: 20s

[blazing pelican]

thank god this is up for every shake

because no one actually uses it for mitigation

[wet stag]

also, midori, you realise a lot of the defensive balance revolves around fight design

drk has a surplus of cooldowns in o12s

like you actually have too many cooldowns on final

[quaint flower]

if you have too many cooldowns it means you don't have adventaqge

because fight cannot make use of it

[wet stag]

that frees up cooldowns for autos

[quaint flower]

thats minor optimisation

[wet stag]

it potentially saves a healer gcd

[quick verge]

pop anticipation

pop awareness

healers adjust

[quaint flower]

using veil and wings can save a gcd too

you know

[wet stag]

we were talking about log runs, which is all about minor optimisation

dont move the goalposts

[quaint flower]

PLD optimisation in general has higher benefits than drk

[wet stag]

pld normally doesnt have cooldowns for autos

[quaint flower]

you can outmatch PLD if you will stay in grit and spam TBN on cooldown

[quick verge]

Bulwark

[wet stag]

right, youre not gonna use bulwark on anything else mb

[quick verge]

patch probably

[quaint flower]

if DRK is so superior why it is not popular

[quick verge]

Because drk sucks

pld main btw

[lyric summit]

it's hard idk how to play drk

[wet stag]

plds have a 30% block rate that give 30% mitigation

[quaint flower]

drk hard to play

[wet stag]

that's an average of 9% mitigation over autos

[lyric summit]

harder than the other two

[quick verge]

drk is really big brain

[quaint flower]

how??

[wet stag]

people dont play drk bc of stigma from 4.2, and people dont like playing drk

thats it

[quaint flower]

there is nothing you can break while playing as drk

[forest halo]

I want tiny sword

[lyric summit]

I run out of mana

[forest halo]

not big sword

[quaint flower]

so what

[lyric summit]

so I can't DA

[wet stag]

but then we're moving onto issues with the playstyle, and that's different entirely

[quaint flower]

well thats the purpose

to get rid of mana

[quick verge]

take off darkside

[wet stag]

you're allowed to not like how drk plays

[quick verge]

and have your caster use mana shift

[lyric summit]

but if I can't DA then why play dark

[quick verge]

and then have your brd use refresh

[quaint flower]

Faye, still waiting why top groups are not using drk for logsruns or speedruns

[quick verge]

because drk is hard to play

ez

[quaint flower]

[boreal edge]

i can see drk being very op in o12s

due tons of magic

[wet stag]

and i answered you

[quick verge]

for what

[wet stag]

bc people dont like playing drk

[quaint flower]

top runs don't bother what they like what they not

[lyric summit]

i think I find drk hard to learn due to the fact I can't practice it without getting hit

[boreal edge]

why ppl bother about top groups?

[quaint flower]

SAM is not played in meta because they don't like playing SAM as well

?

[wet stag]

sam is meta in mf btw

[boreal edge]

sam is used in m/f

[quick verge]

I find drk hard to play because I can't chimp out and hit da every 2 syphon strikes

[quaint flower]

cool

1 half fight

[quick verge]

because trick isn't as good?

is that the reason

[wet stag]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/25#boss=64&search=1.4.-1

here u go

[boreal edge]

half party benefit from crit

trick*

[wet stag]

top runs of final omega with drk

[quaint flower]

are you implying this is impressive score?

one top 10 and then -TOP20?

[fossil basalt]

1 half fight? you realize you can't change Jobs mid-duty, right?

[quaint flower]

this is how you call drk being superior to pld?

JETalone I mean M-F logs

[wet stag]

it's 20 out of top 100

[boreal edge]

@wet stag you are wasting your time with medori

[wet stag]

you asked why top groups dont bring drk into speed

my answer is:they do

[quaint flower]

with this kind of logic every job is in speeds

[quick verge]

If you're not top 5 you suck

[quaint flower]

RDM starts with 27th

[boreal edge]

just cause its not top 10 =/ its not speed

[quaint flower]

this is why i am saying

[wet stag]

oh lmao

[quaint flower]

RDM is good for speeds

[wet stag]

unreal is 3rd on mf and they have a drk

that's fastest ive seen so far lol

[quaint flower]

drk too op

please nerf

[quick verge]

drk is op

[wet stag]

drk is op

tbh

[forest halo]

I just like simplicity

Play pld

123

[quaint flower]

this is why we need nerfs

too op

[boreal edge]

4.3 drk buffs are awesome

[wet stag]

lol midori dont kid us you dont play drk

[quaint flower]

It is my main this is why i dont like what they did with it

[wet stag]

4.4 "fixes" actually boosted drk dps a lot lol

i mean sure

[quick verge]

I play drk when there's a pad comp

[wet stag]

but it's my main and i love it

[quaint flower]

not a lot but significantly for a change

[wet stag]

so u know

[boreal edge]

there was 4.4 buffs?

[wet stag]

floor effect fixes

[quaint flower]

i dont remember if 4.3

or 4.4

[boreal edge]

ah yes

[quaint flower]

but they buffed sole survivor

so you get few more dark arts

[boreal edge]

the salted earth

[wet stag]

so salted earth can have an 8th tick

it happens like 99% of the time too

[quick verge]

pld is the best tank btw

[wet stag]

if u like sleeping while tanking sure lol

[boreal edge]

u mean war

[quick verge]

wanna fight me

[quaint flower]

I would rather sleep than smashing 1 button

[boreal edge]

u can go drk or pld but you cant go without war

[wet stag]

idk man drk pld was rly comfy in sigma

[quaint flower]

actually PLD/DRK is not that bad in UwU

[wet stag]

bc cover was op as fuck

[quaint flower]

due to very painful tank busters

[boreal edge]

holmgang is just bae

[quaint flower]

prog wise

ofc

[quick verge]

drk pld is my favorite comp in o11s

[wet stag]

and no slashing

[quick verge]

get a nin

or a sam

[boreal edge]

get nin or sam

[quaint flower]

Faye Sigma didn't have any significant magic tank busters

drk didnt have benefits there

[rustic lichen]

I enjoy pld/drk in 11 but holmgang privilege

[wet stag]

uh

[quaint flower]

especially it was before buffs

[wet stag]

hello

o6

[quaint flower]

o6

[wet stag]

just dm on cooldown

[quaint flower]

[wet stag]

rampart on cooldown

shadow wall on cooldown

[quick verge]

eat 2nd kiss

[wet stag]

also hyperdrive

[quick verge]

with ld

[quaint flower]

you can just swap for hyperdrive

[wet stag]

drk had the easiest time zeroing out hyperdrive

just dont get the dot

[quaint flower]

or just swap

instead of wasting all cd

[quick verge]

pld privilege just eat it

[quaint flower]

on 1 attack

[rustic lichen]

Or cover

[quaint flower]

and you were the one who was talking about saving cd

for aa

[wet stag]

it's a different fight

[quaint flower]

ye sure

[wet stag]

ofc you use your cooldowns differently

if you can use cds for autos sure

[quaint flower]

there is no benefit from making hyper hit you for 0

[wet stag]

but it's about getting the most value out of them

[quaint flower]

yet you dont get dot

but you can swap

and use these cd for aa before hyperdrive

[quick verge]

making hyperdrive hit for 0 actually arouses me

[quaint flower]

yes

it is for memes

nothing more

[wet stag]

it's almost like cds can last a few autos + hyperdrive

[quick verge]

I like the meme comp where I take 0 on the first hyperdrive

cover mt + rampart and get benison + aspected benefic

and block it

ez clap my dudes

[wet stag]

benison

u mean

white tbn

but yeah thats actually nut holy shit

[quick verge]

racist

[wet stag]

hey man i like tbn better than white tbn

[quick verge]

getting a tbn too also slaps

Raiding actually generates the most pleasure

hey who wants to help me take 0 from every hyperdrive in o8s one day

for uhhh

Scientific research

[wet stag]

its easy to take 0 from every hyperdrive

just dont take the hyperdrives

[boreal edge]

how dare you not like the benis faye?

[quick verge]

blocked

[quaint flower]

or spam all cd like an idiot

[quick verge]

if I'm not getting hit then it's not arousing

[boreal edge]

[quaint flower]

true

[boreal edge]

[quaint flower]

getting hit is getting aroused

pain is a pleasure

0 is meh

it is not hot

[quick verge]

it is

[quaint flower]

you don't feel this 0

on your body

[quick verge]

seeing a 0 makes me

feel something

eating a 300k and surviving also makes me feel something good

[quaint flower]

seeing me surviving with 100hp makes me hot

[quick verge]

same

maybe this is why I tank

not to do big damage

but to get hit hard and enjoy it

[quaint flower]

I actually enjoy doing more damage than ~~trash ~~ dps

[wet stag]

I play tank bc it's fun

I enjoy being able to properly format in discord xd

[quick verge]

I play pld and stand to the side of the boss so people will notice me and give me attention

[wet stag]

Gotta get them tank positionals

[quick verge]

gotta practice my dragoon gameplay

[boreal edge]

i found midori logs

https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/3300967

[quaint flower]

Yes

these are mine

Im prooud of them

[wet stag]

If you have so much time to complain about drk go clear final Omega

[quaint flower]

difficult with pugs

and i am too lazy

I am like trying to pug it 2 hours per week

or something

I miss my 4.2 squad

4.3 too

good old times

[wet stag]

Just find another static 4Head

[quaint flower]

Was trying for months but only MC which were not good to me and then I just lost motivation to even bother anymore

working on nightshift doesnt help either

Never forget

[lyric summit]

somehow my uwu group is the best people and players I ever raided with but then fell apart rip

f in the chat

[quaint flower]

my HQ 4.2 group went apart because some people wanted to do 4.3 content and some not. 4.3 ''fell'' apart because it was only for UwU

[lyric summit]

mine died cause people stopped giving a fuck in 4.4 and we cleared o11s week2 and then couldn't clear m/f shield for 4 weeks

[hybrid rapids]

is that ucob?

wait uwu?

[quaint flower]

uwu

[hybrid rapids]

nice

[lyric summit]

i'm too bad for ucob

[quaint flower]

or you just don't have proper group

[hybrid rapids]

ucob required much longer time too

I've done re-clear today after 8 months~

trying funny strat to cheese haha

infusion 3 auto 10k DPS

dps check much easier compared to when relevant but mechanics still brutal

it took us 3 lockout just to reclear

[quaint flower]

what

lets be honest

slightly better pot is not gonna change much

[hybrid rapids]

3 DPS almost 10k

golden only last 3:30 mins~

[quaint flower]

and with previous pot?

[hybrid rapids]

previous we hits 8~9k

now 10k

[quaint flower]

maybe lucky cdh

[hybrid rapids]

so that's kinda huge 1k~

most of them on ilvl 340 btw

they all lazy to farm 345 haha

so you can imagine a full party ilvl 345 + infusion 3

[quaint flower]

it will just let you die 1 more time

difficulty tier will be the same

[hybrid rapids]

also worth to mention NIN died too

that's why only 7k

but managed to cover

we were trying LB3 to cheese

for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOit2mu2Co

[quaint flower]

I could try ucob but certainly not with usual mc 3h/3day

[quick verge]

Nice statics

[hybrid rapids]

not static

recruit from PF

we did 1 lockout each day

and finally cleared today after 3rd lockout

[fossil basalt]

3h/3days

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/229c26898d98dd80440695fa0c3e3b6f

there's probably uwu kills faster than this

[fossil basalt]

my static does 1.5h/3days

[dull radish]

14:06 is the fastest logged uwu kill. So, close

[lyric summit]

oh it was a wipe and a second pull

[lost pewter]

Im starting to get a static together for some buddies that are coming from BFA, anything i should know composition wise before we get going?

[lyric summit]

2 tanks 2 healers 2 melee 2 ranged no doubles

[stable sphinx]

On of the ranged should be a brd or a mch. (But bard is currently better iirc)

[dull radish]

generally yeah, and with a BRD/MCH you generally want a DRG for piercing debuff on boss, to buff the BRD/MCH damage

[lost pewter]

gotcha that makes sense

[dull radish]

you can go pretty far with pretty much whatever comp, but there are some kinds of things like that which can help

like making sure you have slashing debuff available for the tanks (granted by WAR, NIN, or SAM)

[lost pewter]

so those debuffs are pretty useful then im guessing haha, i was a fairly casual player back when i used to play ffxiv, went raiding in wow and now im coming back so i need to familiarize myself with stuff again

[dull radish]

yeah, they can add a decent bit to dps

[lost pewter]

any resources aimed towards someone looking to be the raid leader/callouts that arent in the pinned messages? i was looking through there and they have some pretty useful stuff, just curious if theres anything else that people use for strats, etc...

[blazing pelican]

https://discord.gg/CjQkEn3

[dull radish]

mmm nothing in particular that comes to mind, checking for info on the balance is always a good idea too yeah^

though I did see you're already in there haha

[blazing pelican]

🤦

[lost pewter]

Yeah that place has been super helpful, works a bit slow so i took a gander haha

thanks for the link anyways 😄

[blazing pelican]

There's a bunch of stuff you kinda just pick up as you go

The waymarks are generally used to mark cardinal directions if they aren't being used for something else, just so people can use them to orient

A pre-pull countdown is courtesy in normal modes, it's mandatory in Savage.

A lot of actions are shortened in VC because they're too long

[lost pewter]

VC?

[blazing pelican]

voice chat

[lost pewter]

oh

yikes yeah lol shoulda knew that one

[blazing pelican]

if you want to raid lead you need to go crack open the action list of every job, you should have passing familiarity with job capabilities

[lost pewter]

oh for sure, im working on getting everything to 60 currently, see how everything plays and whatnot, im rusty but the knowledge will come back, im a tank and thats what ill be doing as well, people are still in the leveling process so im getting my classes setup as much as i can before the next patch/ next xpac realistically

[blazing pelican]

but realistically every member of the group should do that

expac isn't until summer, you have plenty of time to level, gear, and raid

[lost pewter]

oh for sure, currently im the only one at 70, a couple guys are in Heavenswrd and some people are making their way through ARR so just depends on how fast they want to take it and what not, i don't want to rush them in anyway, im having fun running the older dungeons/trials with them and they're enjoying the story so thats all good

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/693702143b7811f156c7fa9030bf388f

openers are for cans am i right duty finder raiders

[lost pewter]

lol

[silver skiff]

wow

[quick verge]

epic

[silver skiff]

the nerve

[quick verge]

you awe the awpha I am the omega uwu initiating diwect anawaysis of subject gwoup >///<

oh it's Chaos

[silver skiff]

didn't know omega was a cute kitty cat

[quick verge]

expected

[silver skiff]

underneath all that armor is a cat operating a machine

[quick verge]

nah it's two cute babes uwu >///<

[silver skiff]

better yet a cat and a dog

[quick verge]

I want to pet omega

[errant kayak]

never really considered this line

[stable basin]

We really should have seem Alphascape coming from the achievement names

I'm sure some people did

[unreal lance]

I literally sat and predicted alphascape when it was about to be announced

[lyric summit]

the devs didn't even predict it cause all the zones are called psiscape

[cloud bluff]

^

[rapid sapphire]

I never got that

there's longer names in other instances but the one they have to shorten is that

[glossy musk]

Underneath all that armor is 25 nipples FYI

If you hadn’t looked

[manic parrot]

any word on the hotfix?

[lyric summit]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/dec5d456a1b56f8d89ffeacbe26a29c7aeea2727

[lusty oak]

srsrly

[lyric summit]

what else did you expect

[lusty oak]

pagos nerf

[lyric summit]

that's not a hotfix

[steady pebble]

hotfix patch...expecting nerfs?

[daring berry]

Eureka is perfectly fine thank you.

[lusty oak]

one can dream

[steady pebble]

better to dream realistically

[unreal flax]

You know what's wild? Eureka is fine

Eureka is the Stormblood relic path, right? WELL

Remember all the other relics and animas? They alternated easy, fast steps and mind-bending nightmarish steps.

[lusty oak]

i just want them to buff pagos crystals rates so i can do all weapons faster ^^'

[unreal flax]

Pagos is the latter after Anemos being the former.

Also, that's probably the most obvious statement I've ever written. Like, it's obvious on at least three levels. I gotta go to bed.

[steady pebble]

it'll get more nerfs/buffs in 4.5x sometime probably

like the other two relics

[lyric summit]

you can get a 31 crystals in a couple hours with wolf cheese anyways

like 6-7 hours

[unreal flax]

It's the other crystals that are the problem.

The Pagos Crystals. Those are stupid.

There are literally NMs that will gift you a single Pagos Crystal. And you need 500 of them. And the zone will only ever have a single non-bunny NM up at a time. With the dragons between half of them.

[lusty oak]

i can do 31 in forge in 4 hours

NMs are pain

[unreal flax]

Every time I see Snow Queen spawn, all I can think is that Pagos is taking the piss again

[boreal edge]

forge is best spot to farm light

[unreal flax]

That's what I'm gonna try to do with my FC members. The three of us are the only ones really doing Eureka and we're also the only people with all 70 crafters and gatherers lol.

[boreal edge]

i wanna get brd relic

but fuck going back to pagos

[torn kindle]

same

I want the BLM one so bad

but pagos light

[lyric summit]

blm has best model but the glow looks crap on it

[torn kindle]

I also wanna finish my WHM pyros before thinking of going back to pagos

[boreal edge]

still not got the best stats on my axe yet

or at least

the stats i want

[lyric summit]

I wanna get the gun to have a 405 without sks

[boreal edge]

best result so far

[sleek belfry]

"Eureka is perfectly fine thank you." Just imagine sucking the devs cock so much you actually think this

[lyric summit]

I thought warrior doesn't meed crit

need

or was it dh

whatever inner release gives you

[sleek belfry]

It gives both, but crit increases the amount of damage a critical hit does

[lyric summit]

oh nice I thought it was just crit rate

[wet stag]

🅱ureka 🅱ad

Up🅱otes pls

[sleek belfry]

If you think eureka is good than you're a monkey

[boreal edge]

crit is best stat for war

with more guaranteed dhcrit you need higher multiplier for crit

to do far more dmg under IR

[wet stag]

Eureka's okay

Grinding out the challenge log is a pretty comfy grind

[lyric summit]

add crystals to challenge log

[boreal edge]

@Wardy95#2072 eureka not bad and not good either

[quick verge]

Eureka was the best thing since midas

[wet stag]

I have to learn nin an hour tmr

Wish me luck boys

[unreal flax]

It's easy.

You don't need luck.

[wet stag]

As in

For uwu prog

[quick verge]

Just don't miss trick and keep slashing/huton up

Easy class

[unreal flax]

If you have NIN at 70, you've got everything you need to know to play NIN in UWU prog.

It's just prog. It's not like you're clearing tomorrow night

[wet stag]

I guess it's just fight timing

It's a sudden comp change so

I'll practice in 5s tmr when

We farm accs

[quick verge]

make sure not to miss trick on the train

[wet stag]

I'll probably die to remorse let's be real

[quick verge]

Pushy ghost don't get bullied

Or do the 3 trillion iq don't pop arm's length and use uhhh

that teleport skill after you get pushed

[wet stag]

Shukuchi

Yeah but I'll clip my gcd

[quick verge]

Something something clip anyway

mudra something

[glossy musk]

lol Wardy no longer here

rip ni🅱🅱a

[meager walrus]

Does anyone still run Rath EX? I need like another 30 scales or so.

Can never find anything on PF and no one ever joins mine

[glossy musk]

It doesn't give any rewards so generally no

[lyric summit]

I see it on PF on chaos pretty often

[cloud bluff]

I still see people running it. Heck, I still need to clear it because pugs failed me.

And I want the mount!

I don’t see how a mount and armor aren’t rewards?

[stable basin]

It's not much different from dogs/old primal weapons

But yeah I rarely see parties for it

Probably because it's so fast to farm and takes fewer people so the people who really wanted the stuff churned out clears

It will probably also be popular heading into 4.5/4.55 as people finish savage and start messing around with stuff they missed earlier

[quick verge]

is it theoretically possible to eat 2 exploding tethers from patch without letting the magic vuln up debuff expire

with current mitigation tools

[wet stag]

I've survived an early break but tank privilege xd

So uh

Fuckin maybe

[lyric summit]

why would you tho

just respect the content

[quick verge]

why not

[lyric summit]

waste of cooldowns

[quick verge]

you're a waste of cooldowns

ily

[lyric summit]

we need more yoshi emotes no one uses the other ones

dead content

[quick verge]

we need more uses for tank lb3

why not just have everyone stack for tawget anawasis and tank lb3 the wave cannon

[lyric summit]

just do ucob

[quick verge]

me too thanks

[lyric summit]

or chinese speedruns with 8 lb3s

[quick verge]

wanna join my static

1/8

[lyric summit]

sure

move to light

[quick verge]

nah

actually id have the same ping

tbh.

[lyric summit]

dewit

[quick verge]

nah

that means possible interactions with the french

[lyric summit]

you're french

they're quarantined on chaos anyways

light best dc

[quick verge]

no i descend from the british

[empty zodiac]

Are my only two options for 380+ crafted or Genesis?

[unreal flax]

Genesis is i390

[scenic patrol]

Crafted or Normal raids gear

[unreal flax]

Crafted or Omicron from the Alphascape normal raids

[scenic patrol]

crafted is gonna be upgradable to 390 in 4.5 I think

like it was in Sigma

[glossy musk]

It lost its melds though so like nobody did it

[last galleon]

It’s good for alt class gearing

I don’t need crafted on my main anymore so I can just trade in for ez 390 on an alt

[wet stag]

Pyros armor is 385

[scenic patrol]

!item pyros fending

[storm frost]

Error!

Item not found, Kupo!

[quick verge]

huh

[scenic patrol]

!item pyos fending chest

[storm frost]

Error!

Item not found, Kupo!

[scenic patrol]

[quick verge]

!item elemental armor of fending

[storm frost]

**Elemental Armor of Fending** **:** Body **:** ilvl 380

Eureka gear.

Physical Defense

1165

Magical Defense

1165

Strength

337

Vitality

374

Determination

301

Skill Speed

211

Materia Meldable

Yes (5 Slot)

Advanced Meldable

No

[quick verge]

is that it

[wet stag]

Oh 380

It's the weapon that's 385

[scenic patrol]

aye

the weapon is also the best ever Sync'd content weapon to be made in the game

[quick verge]

for what

[scenic patrol]

any content sync

[quick verge]

oh

[scenic patrol]

UwU, Ucob Alexander Savage

[quick verge]

time to steamroll ucob

[scenic patrol]

400/200/200/200 stat spread tank weapons is the best fucking thing you can get

capped crit and then close to cap all stats

[quick verge]

Tenacity the dream POGGERS

[scenic patrol]

so in practice you'll enter Ucob with

280 crit

and 200 of every other stat

880 total substas

!item genji greataxe

[storm frost]

**Genji Greataxe** **:** Marauder's Arm **:** ilvl 345

Damage

100

Magic Damage

68

Strength

308

Vitality

328

Tenacity

280

Critical Hit

196

Materia Meldable

Yes (2 Slot)

Advanced Meldable

No

[quick verge]

dang that sounds op that requires making an extra weapon

[scenic patrol]

556 vs 880

or ucob axe vs Pyros

596 vs 880

[hybrid rapids]

yes, pyros multiple stats axe is a beast

[calm mantle]

Is there any point in tomestones of poetics once you hit 70?

[wet stag]

50/60 gear for alt jobs

Anima stuff

[calm mantle]

Oh okay

[heady badger]

hey, so is anyone aware of a potential bug with o11s level checker, wherein the status for the meteors gives 3 people mid, 2 the early, and 1 person the last?

https://gyazo.com/064ffef1f8574b75b99fb643fd838a6b

[scenic patrol]

yikes

[stable basin]

My guess is that one of the 30s people went early

[wet stag]

Yeah

[heady badger]

no

3 people were assigned 21\

we have 2 pulls of it happening

ACT confirming it

[scenic patrol]

does anyone share name in the instance?

[wet stag]

Yikes

[stable basin]

Big if true

[heady badger]

no

[stable basin]

Legitimately

[heady badger]

we're all from Gilgamesh

[wet stag]

Reinstancing should fix the issue

[scenic patrol]

otherwise file a bug report

[wet stag]

Probably a buggy instance

^^

[heady badger]

Pld/War/Whm/Sch/Mnk/Drg/Rdm/Brd comp

[twin garnet]

it happens almost EVERY pull we've done, for the last couple weeks of trying this

[heady badger]

^

[wet stag]

File a bug report

[heady badger]

we had a 2/2/2 the pull before our last 2

[twin garnet]

and i think it was our first ever 2/2/2. lol

[scenic patrol]

fucking yikes

kick the player that always get added to the 3 stack

[wet stag]

Inb4 that triggers a 2/4

[heady badger]

just sent in the report

we're going to try having our Rdm swap to Smn

see if that MIGHT help

[steep iris]

does act really say that x gains the effect of looper for 21 seconds

for 3 people

also just realized i'm super late

[boreal edge]

@heady badger we did alot of o11s and it never happened

looks at time

lol im 4 hours behind

in convo

[lyric summit]

yeah the buff duration just from fflogs buffs doesn't mean much, just looks like 1 person cleansing early

[glad tapir]

@heady badger the issue is that the person who had the secound last debuff stand inside the mid puddle so his debuff gets removed together with the mid person, in fact he just fuqed up the mechanics

[quick verge]

okay so the person can't count

[zinc vortex]

debuffs get removed if you get smacked in the face with a meteor ye

thats why it shows up like that

😔

[unique bramble]

is there an easier way to gear up 70+ that isn't Omega? Cause I don't like raiding. :/

but i'm far too under the ilvl to continue the msq

also i have 14k gil so i can't buy it either.

[lyric summit]

spam lvl 70 dungeons for genesis

buy i360 gear

[unique bramble]

gah.

okay. thanks.

[heavy mist]

Can also do some alliance raids to break the monotony

@unique bramble

Probably more fun if u bored

[unique bramble]

thanks! i'll try that.

[lyric summit]

i380 from omega normal should be pretty easy to get too

[errant kayak]

Is it required to do o9-12s to get 400ilvl gear?

Otherwise highest is 390 from genesis?

[lyric summit]

well, you don't have to do o12s, you can get tome gear upgrades from 10s and 11s

but without savage i390 is the higheest ilvl yes

4.5 will add another 24man from which the weekly coins will be used for genesis gear upgrades

[errant kayak]

Ooh

Gotcha, thanks

[brave maple]

Does anyone know the HP of the MCH O12S dummy? The Calc website hasn't been updated since Tsukiyomi

Ty, saved

[dull radish]

I got some pretty nice pb's this week, but still no luck with accessories

and still no clean 12s haha

[fringe granite]

Memories imo parse says nothing about you as a player

[wet stag]

[dull radish]

12th page from 9 next week <3

[wet stag]

Parse says nothing about you as a player

[dull radish]

finally can replace all those accessories

[wet stag]

[quick verge]

just get the jackpot next week

caster coat from o12s and a coffer

:^)

[dull radish]

that's what happened for me on first 12s clear <3

absolutely not

had to buy everything

same with all previous tiers

[quick verge]

ouch

[fringe granite]

RIP Rika savage RNG

[dull radish]

also had to buy everything this tier other than the caster chest and upgrade items (and still bought a few upgrade items, too)

[quick verge]

nah caster coat is gonna drop for 4 weeks straight

don't kid yourself

[fringe granite]

Doesn't mean they'll get it

[quick verge]

it will

[fringe granite]

That'd suck

[quick verge]

i hope you dc for 4 weeks straight

wow gl

[storm frost]

Bittersweet Memories of Behemoth

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Chaos**

Summoner: (458/6550) [7720 DPS] [94 Historical] [8:02]
Black Mage: (345/2032) [7046 DPS] [83 Historical] [8:34]

**Midgardsormr**

Summoner: (149/4979) [7197 DPS] [97 Historical] [9:35]
Black Mage: (188/944) [6380 DPS] [80 Historical] [10:17]

**Omega**

Summoner: (147/3683) [7852 DPS] [96 Historical] [10:36]

**Omega-M and Omega-F**

Summoner: (426/1705) [7304 DPS] [75 Historical] [7:44]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[wet stag]

Just play a class no one else does

Easy oranges

[quick verge]

just become a pro blm

full turret mage

slidecasting ⛔

[wet stag]

Actually

Blm is pretty dead on final

[quick verge]

is it

doubt it

seems like you can just

use a combination of aetherial manipulation + swiftcast + tricast to cheese it

[wet stag]

Less parses than drk

[quick verge]

oh

should've said that

😡

[wet stag]

794 parses

Vs drks 1.1k

[quick verge]

replace caster slot with drk confirmed meta?

wow i can't believe drk does more damage than blm

errr

[dull radish]

BLM is cozy on final omega <3

[wet stag]

Says someone who's good at blm

[quick verge]

being good isn't hard

just don't be bad

um

[fossil basalt]

wow thanks i parse orange now

[lyric summit]

jealous

[quick verge]

it's the old

https://www.reddit.com/r/KoreanAdvice/

god i love that subreddit

[wet stag]

Also r/wowthanksimcured

[honest yew]

Once I've done my CL in anemos, reaching lvl 14, is my best remaining option just grind?

[unreal flax]

grind grind. kill mobs at or one level above you. it sounds appealing to let your CDs come back, but don't. Just go straight from one mob to the next so you can keep your chain up. The chains are your lifeblood. Make sure you have a ton of Eureka potions, cuz you're gonna be drinking them basically on cooldown lol

[quick verge]

nm train

[unreal flax]

NM train

That's a good one. And actually, yeah, since you're level 14, you get really good exp from most NMs

[honest yew]

so it's a raid boss in which i keep my rotation going for as long as possible and cut through its 30 healthbars

If my eye drops i've already lost

[unreal flax]

Pretty much!

[sullen needle]

is there a diagram of big fists in 11s that I could look at?

[fossil basalt]

this is the one my static uses https://i.gyazo.com/80428cff43b11e0f10d761e02a4d8ef6.png

[wet stag]

@sullen needle waypoints on the 5th hexagon from the corner

[fossil basalt]

is that true for both directions? 'cause they're wider n-s than e-w

[wet stag]

Yeah

Every marker we do is 5th from the corner

[fossil basalt]

alright

[sonic olive]

Make sure to yell at your melee to use feint for the stack

[heavy mist]

yell at healers for not healing

[boreal edge]

@wet stag we do on 4th

no issues

5th makes mid point thinner i guess

but if it works, it works

[glad tapir]

btw don't forget to turn away from the fist before it hits you, it's the only way you will recive the Fist inside your butt

[daring berry]

i would rather the fist hit my balls

[glad tapir]

[zinc vortex]

you don't have to be good at BLM to see that BLM on final omega is cozy

i wish i still played BLM

looks very cozy

god kefka was also super cozy on BLM

[stable basin]

I watched a final omega BLM pov, made me wish I was good at it

[zinc vortex]

you could always play bard if you want ultimate cozy

[glad tapir]

[quaint flower]

Speaking of BRD, I'm getting tired of lazy ranges in o11s who refuses to take blaster tethers I can understand Kyrios bait but blaster is dungeon tier mechanic

so tired I just straight blacklist them

''tank mechanic'' well how about doing red fists without lb then? It is GROUP mechanic

[hybrid rapids]

It doesn’t matter if all you do is weekly

Same goes to healers doing chain

And also pld invulnerable second panto

[quaint flower]

maybe but it pisses me of because it heavily reminds me of SB start where lazy tanks were not using shirks and were expecting me to do aggro combo...

[hybrid rapids]

Maybe try to suggest

If they refused to then just do it as usual

It’s a small fuss to get weekly

[quaint flower]

yes I get ''it is tank mechanic'' or don't be lazy

[hybrid rapids]

Unless you’re in optimized parse / speed run PT

[quaint flower]

if they refuse they will die

until they will replace me 😃

or him

I don't much care about optimizing parsers in PUG (this is why I understand tank doing kyrios) but there are limits to laziness i just can't take

[hybrid rapids]

I understand

Maybe my priority more on “can we kill it” rather than “can you do this”

It’s frustrating to not seeing 79% pre checker

[quick verge]

there's a reason people take brd/mch for o11s

it's to be a mechanic bitch

[boreal edge]

@quick verge i want you be my binch

[quick verge]

mi mch mi wildfire please understand

[boreal edge]

@quick verge wildfire me daddy

[quick verge]

i need an adult?

[boreal edge]

maybe

[steady pebble]

[boreal edge]

stop spooking me @steady pebble

i have weak heart

i might get heart attack from spook

[quick verge]

I like to reassemble cooldown

during wf :^)

[unreal lance]

[lament stone]

as BRD when our static start progress in o11s, my group told me healers going to do chain mechanic and the off tank doing the tethers, i reply as long i am playing BRD in this group, this bullshit PUG strategy will never happen! as BRD i am doing all this stuff and it's a ZERO dps lost for me

[zinc vortex]

yeah!

[hybrid rapids]

big salute !

[fossil basalt]

i'm not even sure what that says

[boreal edge]

healers do chain?

it can work but i doubt it without cancelling some casts

[steep iris]

ast can do chain no problem

0 gcd lost

[hybrid rapids]

basically he recommended himself to the group to take the role of doing chain and tethers

it's a respected act

[sly bone]

hallo, can someone suggest me which materia is best for tank (paladin) lvl 70?

[hybrid rapids]

!faq pldguide

[storm frost]

PLD in-depth Guide by Emiin ❤

Info

https://goo.gl/CpPZ94

[hybrid rapids]

this is a good reference

[steep iris]

might need swiftcast tho

[hybrid rapids]

CRIT=DH > DET > TEN > SKS

[sly bone]

so i dont need extra strength materia then?

ok ty

[steep iris]

you do for your accessories @sly bone

first meld is always strength VI

rest is your substats

[quick verge]

legendary bard

Stands up for justice

American hero

[lyric summit]

shinryu ex btw

[quick verge]

At least you got to run on his tail

[unreal flax]

lol

[scenic patrol]

The type of players that say that can't press buttons

So yeah

[quick verge]

I'm assuming you didn't skip phase 3 mechanics

[lyric summit]

they wanted to skip diamond dust and reiryus which didn't happen once even without deaths and everyone at i380

[quick verge]

That's pretty epic

[lyric summit]

at least we skipped aerial blast

[quick verge]

Imagine getting i320 damage in a 100% uptime fight

[steep iris]

can you even skip phase 3

[quick verge]

No

You can essentially skip all the mechanics

Like Tera Slash/Hypernova and then go into the burn phase

[lyric summit]

define phase 3 cause there's uhhh a soar deep there before phase transition

like in normal mode

[quick verge]

When Shinryu is on the platform

[lyric summit]

he gets up and flies through the arena and there's another tank buster i think

you can probably push him after the 1st tank buster

[hybrid rapids]

@lyric summit that's awful but would recommended to censor the name next time

[lament dawn]

Somehow a war managed to dodge a vs12 tank buster without taking damage even though he was marked for it.

[quick verge]

i know you can dodge savage wave cannon with a really well timed rescue

but uhhh

[wet stag]

you can also just

walk through

if your timing is damn good

[quick verge]

actually the true minmax meta

take 0 overall from it

[stable basin]

just play drk and be comfy af

[quick verge]

or you can just be slick and dodge the attack

😏

[scenic patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95I_FpY6fFg

[quick verge]

so you move like

2.8 seconds after target analysis finishes casting?

[scenic patrol]

No idea

[fervent smelt]

just hit 70!

[glossy musk]

Grats!

[fervent smelt]

should i just be following the raiding pin for what to do next?

[glossy musk]

I've actually not read it yet but mainly

Finish your job quests
Work on story quests to unlock shit
Cap your tomes each week to buy shit
Work on the hardest content available to you so you can gear up and do harder content

Eventually you'll be geared enough you can start doing things like Savage raids. You can also buy crafted gear to get a pretty big skip ahead.

Also make a PF group for Delta -> Sigma

because nobody does those and the queue in DF will be hell

and you gotta do them in order to get to Alpha

[fervent smelt]

thanks for the help 😃

[scenic patrol]

The question is, do you have an interest in savage raiding or just want to do the casual content currently available?