endgame-lounge

[dull radish]

sprint

[vital cypress]

the uncomfortable feeling when you realize your group isn't clearing that fight as it's currently made

zzz

[lyric summit]

I mean, aren't you in a casual static

it's normal for casual groups to spend weeks on 2nd floor

plus o10s is harder than o2s or o6s so more weeks than usual

o11s is easier than o3s and o7s tho so it should even out

[vital cypress]

the bigger issue is that we're at the exact same place we were about two weeks ago

except for one fluke run with a healer LB3

[lyric summit]

get a new static then 🤷

[quick verge]

when casual static means not learning anything for 2 lockouts

[blazing pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481863284773879809/497770721821589525/unknown.png

[lyric summit]

who raids at 10am

[waxen wagon]

are you suppose to stack up with someone for the purple lightning in O10S? does it reduce the damage taken?

[lyric summit]

no, it's splash damage, it'll deal 35k to everyone inside

akh morn is the only stack

[waxen wagon]

thanks!

[quick verge]

Did you stand in the magic vuln up thing yen

[lyric summit]

I think it's the a11s dashes when you're inside the hitbox on your turn

[quick verge]

Pile Bitch is the stack

[dull radish]

it sounds like taking beyond defense then going and stacking for pile pitch

since beyond defense gives magic vuln

don't think there's anything else that would cause pile pitch to hit that hard

[quick verge]

Unequipping your gear and taking it as a solo stack

[dull radish]

I dunno, that's 3m

if it was 300k maybe

[quick verge]

also need to have the stack and be next to the person that gets Beyond Defense'd

[ornate blade]

numbers

[dull radish]

it's not too bad

pantokrator 2 can be annoying but there's ways to limit chance of loss

realistically it's just the lower number of BLM clearing, there's a bit of skew

[stable basin]

Historic should stay the same

That's what historic means

My week 1 is still 75th historic even though it's 64th current

idk, that's weird then

[lyric summit]

it can only change after the daily recalculation of all parses in a day I'm pretty sure

[silent path]

Anyone know whm 4.4 bis ?

[unreal flax]

I lose a day of prog in O10S because I have to be social tonight

[silent path]

Plox

[lyric summit]

had a 96 on chaos, then NA raided and it went 91

[fossil basalt]

rekt by America 😎

C U R R E N T Y E A R

[boreal edge]

i was 96 in suzaku

now im 91

despite it was week old kill

[quick verge]

yeah because everyone is spamming logs for the fight

[steep iris]

my 100 in suzaku is a 82

[untold furnace]

Is there a minimum of runs to do to start seeing your performance on your character page on fflogs ?

[steep iris]

nope

[boreal edge]

nope

[steep iris]

as long as it's uploaded it'll show

[boreal edge]

it detect you on 1st

sometimes u might need to add your char

to detect you if its borked

then it start detecting your future parses

happened twice with me with my 2 alts

[untold furnace]

hmmm maybe it's because all the logs I update were unlisted at first and I only just made them public now

[boreal edge]

export logs

[steep iris]

are they for alpha/ex trials?

[boreal edge]

might fix it for you

[steep iris]

if so then yea you gotta export them

[untold furnace]

not all of them but most of them are o9s yeah

[steep iris]

go in the log>rankings in top right>export

also speaking of borked

there's 1 guy in my server who has an uwu kill according to fflogs

but he actually doesn't

cause there's a guy with the exact same name on another other server

[last galleon]

How

Oh

Lmao

[steep iris]

and fflogs got confused

[last galleon]

I thought it was like the guy was hitting a dummy when the uwu people came out of their instance and he was logged as a participant

[untold furnace]

exported a o9s log but still nothing on the parse thing

[steep iris]

wait a few mins maybe

[untold furnace]

do oyu have to upload them to something specific ? They were all uploaded to the default "personal logs"

[boreal edge]

just gotta be visible

on the rankings

might need to reupload em again

after adding your character

[untold furnace]

also while on the export page, there's two options, ranking and parse, what's the difference and what's the one I should pick to see my perf on my character page ?

[boreal edge]

parse is last 2 weeks rank

rankings are for all parses since fight was released

[untold furnace]

alright

[boreal edge]

2 weeks ranks include all parses of ppl

rankings only add best parse of every person

so 2 weeks parse can be both inflated by

1- no exceptional ppl doing fight

2- many ppl parse multiple kills so their bad kills also included

[quick verge]

do abilities like aspected helios snapshot healing buffs like largesse for their duration

[last galleon]

yes, it's important to note the distinction between abilities and spells for the purposes of largesse though

since i believe largesse only affects spells and not abilities

[boreal edge]

it doesnt affect abilities

you still see those schs pop largesse with fey union or indom and excog lol

our of whole sch kit

it only affect succor iirc

[last galleon]

adlo

physick

[boreal edge]

and adlo and physick

tho who use adlo or physick?

[last galleon]

spreadlo is used

[boreal edge]

sacred soil usually more than enough with succor

[quick verge]

spreadlo is a deadly cheese

[boreal edge]

adlo lead to overheal and deployment is extra cd

[last galleon]

you know that succor + SS and adlo + deployment is exactly the same number of GCD and oGCDs right?

and you're not going to use deployment on much else

[boreal edge]

except

you gonna pop ss and deployment

[quick verge]

what

[boreal edge]

succor and ss vs adlo + deployment + ss

[zinc vortex]

uh

have you ever heard of

w e a v i n g

my guy

[elder lark]

'duty completion' Suzaku parties where people stack rekindles during well of flame 😦

[high ether]

lol

'farm' Suzaku parties where people don't kill the adds in time

[paper solstice]

How hard is bahamut ultimate with i380 gear?

[normal sable]

ucob is not unsyncable

[outer garden]

it has ilvl sync of i345

[high ether]

it's a big step up even from savage

[last galleon]

it's the hardest fight in the game

by a lot

[high ether]

you need near-perfect execution and it's a long fight in which a lot can go wrogn

[rapid sapphire]

it's basically 5 dps and mechanics checks end to end iirc

[last galleon]

and if you wipe at 18 min mark you start over again

[normal sable]

It's long

It's hard

And server tick is not on your side

[high ether]

have you cleared o12s?

or o8s?

[normal sable]

I think you should start with uwu tbh

Better title, better glam, easier fight

[midnight hollow]

Man I tohught the orbs in o9s blaze just targetted random players but there actually is safe zones

[vital cypress]

yeah, it's the same patterns every time

I think there's two slightly different ones but you can certainly minimize movement there

(dunno if you can stand completely still and miss everything)

[glossy musk]

Does anyone have a fucking gif of knocking cross for o9s

[rapid sapphire]

knocking cross? (knock down?)

[glossy musk]

During intermission you can knock across so you don't lose dps uptime

[quick verge]

n

[glossy musk]

But ours are probably too close, we have triple melee

[rapid sapphire]

for dps check?

[quick verge]

dps need to stand max melee

[vital cypress]

yes

healers/tanks stand a bit inside of them then move to the conveniently placed crosses on the arena

more or less

but not quite depending on exactly where you start

[glossy musk]

Yeah I got ping-ponged. It was fine but annoying, still lost globals

[vital cypress]

then someone inevitably dies and you wish you hadn't done that

[rapid sapphire]

I'm guessing something for cardnals or what my static does, intercardnals (dps at notch, heal facing in/back to dps, 2 globals time before punted and go to partner to "kill" them)

if that's the case then I don't know since I position myself (as dps) every time but my paired healer kills me constantly (2 aoe hits instead of 1)

[dull radish]

there's only one AoE on each tank/healer

so if you get hit more than once, it means that a different tank/healer is too close

[rapid sapphire]

yeah that's what i don't get 😐

[vital cypress]

the donuts are exceedingly hard to eyeball

[dull radish]

you don't need to eyeball them though

[quick verge]

there's markings on the arena

that you stand on

[vital cypress]

yes

[glossy musk]

Thanks

[quick verge]

or if you're doing cardinals

[dull radish]

we stand a bit more on the corner of the diamond panels, but roughly around there should be ok

[wet stag]

wew lad

made a bunch of triggernometry stuff that teaches you the drk opener

openers

s

[lucid karma]

hisss

[wet stag]

here u go

[paper solstice]

I have been looking at drg ultimate lv 70 skill "nastrond" it seems a lot of work need to be done to get to use the skill that have only 330 potency where most endgame is single target boss?

[wet stag]

yeah but it's your highest burst over 30s

well

20s

!action geirskogul

[storm frost]

**Geirskogul** : lvl 60 DRG (30.0 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 230 to all enemies in a straight line before you.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Blood of the Dragon. Additional Effect: Changes Blood of the Dragon to Life of the Dragon
Dragon Gauge Cost: 3

[boreal edge]

nastrond is a cooldown

[wet stag]

230 in 30s or 990 in 30s

[boreal edge]

you lose nothing in using it

[wet stag]

that's 760 potency FOR FREE

[scenic patrol]

it's an off GCD

you don't choose between GCDs and off GCDs

you do both

[paper solstice]

I was trying to decide what to level next drg or samurai, i just look at their lv 70 skills samurai is 800 potency

[boreal edge]

jobs dps is balanced

[wet stag]

800 potency in 90 seconds

you gotta take the cooldown into account too

[boreal edge]

iirc its 120

[wet stag]

but

[scenic patrol]

why are you looking at potencies?

[wet stag]

you can't really compare potencies between jobs

[lucid karma]

something something SAM meme

[scenic patrol]

comparing potencies between jobs requires deep understanding of both

and you don't have it

[boreal edge]

!action hissatsu:guren

[storm frost]

**Hissatsu: Guren** : lvl 70 SAM (120.0 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack to all enemies in a straight line before you with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, 25% less for the second, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Kenki Gauge Cost: 50

[wet stag]

just play what you want lmao

[boreal edge]

120

[wet stag]

yeah okay

[scenic patrol]

don't look at potencies

[wet stag]

you think drg seems cool? fuckin go for it

[scenic patrol]

look at play style

and fflogs 95 percentile parses

[wet stag]

you're a fuckin weeb and wanna go sam? that's cool bro

do what u want

live life on the edge

be radical

[scenic patrol]

be gud at what you play

[wet stag]

[lucid karma]

what you like can be not what you're good at

keep in mind

[scenic patrol]

even if it's a dead job like MCH and your only competition is 3 other MCH players

[boreal edge]

no u

there are ppl play mch

[lucid karma]

oh look it's MCH

[boreal edge]

just not much

[lucid karma]

maybe we laugh at it it will go away

[wet stag]

enjoy what you're good at

[scenic patrol]

I know

[paper solstice]

Is drg botd hard to keep up 95% of the time, I notice that theres a lot of downtime in endgame content

[wet stag]

be good at what you enjoy

nah it's not that hard

if you sonic thrust just before the boss leaves

[boreal edge]

not drg myself so cant comment

[lucid karma]

Is drg botd hard to keep up 95% of the time

[wet stag]

then use BOTD to refresh it to 20s

[lucid karma]

not hard at all

[wet stag]

should be alright

[lucid karma]

it is somewhat hard before you get fang and claw trait

[wet stag]

boss doesnt leave for more than 40 seconds at a time iirc

[lucid karma]

at lvl 64 IIRC

[wet stag]

!action lance mastery

[storm frost]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[boreal edge]

trait

[wet stag]

!action enhanced lance mastery

[storm frost]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[boreal edge]

not action

[wet stag]

!action enhanced kenki

[storm frost]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[wet stag]

dude

did they fuckin change it

!trait lance mastery

[boreal edge]

!trait tackle mastery

[scenic patrol]

!trait enhanced lance mastery

[lucid karma]

let's just say you get to fang/wheeling combo at lvl 64

[wet stag]

that

[boreal edge]

!action tackle mastery

[lucid karma]

instead of once

[storm frost]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[lucid karma]

so more BoTD

way easier to keep uptime

not to mention AoE combo

like quick and dirty way to not lose BOTD in a pinch, not recommend however

[wet stag]

nvm

xivdb is still fucked

[boreal edge]

not still

its forever fucked

[wet stag]

i wasnt wrong

[paper solstice]

Ty guys, im going to try them both to see how they feel.

[vernal swallow]

is a 1k dps difference between ilvl 380 and ilvl 330 realistic? or should it be more?

[steady pebble]

hmm well, ppl were doing like 6k back in deltascape

and most are in like 8k range now

so 1k doesn't sound too off but seems like one the lower end

[boreal edge]

@steady pebble 6k? i highly doubt it

5k+ i agree

[steady pebble]

unless i'm looking at fflogs incorrectly

[lyric summit]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/17#aggregate=amount i330 (mostly i340) dps
vs
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/25#aggregate=amount current i380+ish dps

[steady pebble]

ppl were doing 6k

[vernal swallow]

my ninja is ilvl 332 with an ilvl 310 weapon and i pulled around 3500-4000 dps, while the other one had complete ilvl 380/390 gear and was at around 4800

[rapid sapphire]

if 7k+ is the new norm then I probably should quit dps and become an alcoholic whm main again

[steady pebble]

it was low 6k

[boreal edge]

30 ilvls are close to 1500+ extra dps

[vernal swallow]

ah ty for the links

[lyric summit]

i think you're looking at sigmascape @steady pebble

[steady pebble]

No

I'm looking at alte roite

even o2s has logs that are low 6k

[lyric summit]

well, people new to the game with barely i330 gear shouldn't be compared to 100th percentiles

[steady pebble]

wasn't look at 100th precentile

either

[lyric summit]

o1s 99s are around 6k

dunno what you looking at then, link it

[boreal edge]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/17#boss=42&metric=dps

this i assume

[steady pebble]

whatever im wrong, i'm wrong

🤷

[quick verge]

monk yeeting on alte roite

😔

[dull radish]

Like 6k was possible for some jobs with padding yeah haha

[lyric summit]

positionals on ice

[quick verge]

just play a class with no positionals

[boreal edge]

sam says hi

[rapid sapphire]

[true north intensifies]

(although I'm a trash rdm and a trash drg and a trash sam so I'm not really one to joke too hard)

[quick verge]

how do u even play sch

[rapid sapphire]

slap eos (obey), wait until time to pop whispering dawn, go back to dot management and spamming broil (oh yeah throw excog on tank depending on content level)

if don't want to bother with managing the fairy selene is good enough but a lot less healing capability aside from embrace and her ai which sucks a lot less than eos'

if aetherflow is coming off cooldown and havent use stacks it's good practice to waste them on energy drain (unless are antisipating the need for panic healing shortly)

(to keep mp up without depending on lucid)

[quick verge]

damn brother

i remembered to heal people

[zinc vortex]

wow im so proud of you

[quick verge]

i am too

i didn't monkey out and forget to top myself off for earthquake

but i didn't use deploy

at all

[zinc vortex]

sugoii ne

[quick verge]

fuck

[zinc vortex]

hey i can relate

https://i.gyazo.com/6b8993c85704d1af2fb9e91fedb36ac1.png

big relate

[quick verge]

worst sch universe?

[zinc vortex]

same

https://i.gyazo.com/5705202ccfe9009c0358909c366925e7.png

[zinc vortex]

im bad 😔

[quick verge]

hi bad im dad

healing o9s was a lot easier than o5s

[stable basin]

What is the DEAL with ENDGAME?

[quick verge]

it's pretty hard to damage in o10s

[wet stag]

It's almost more impressive you didn't get a single blue

Green and purple but nothing in between

👀

[normal sable]

o10s is fucking cancer for uptime

feels worse than o5s

[wet stag]

Just play bard lmao

[quick verge]

!whologs @quick verge

[storm frost]

Biscuit Centrifugal of Excalibur

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Chaos**

Paladin: (698/6985) [4745 DPS] [94 Historical] [8:38]
Scholar: (1472/6401) [2724 DPS] [77 Historical] [9:05]

**Midgardsormr**

Paladin: (831/4376) [4046 DPS] [81 Historical] [10:23]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[quick verge]

alright time to trap with sch next

poggers my lad

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/f3308058ff3bffd21114ab457ef39b70

username checks out

o11s first clear

also https://gyazo.com/52b827fae10f3b1080cb6b862a0ccbe0

[quick verge]

now this is epic

:^)

[lyric summit]

nah chaos was weekly, rest was prog

[quick verge]

it is

midgardsormr is pretty cursed

[fossil basalt]

poor guy's had a rough life

wouldn't be surprising if there was a curse involved

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/d1a9126541ddf43fb92c8bf16331ff57

had a 1% on weekly after though lmao

[scenic patrol]

wew lad

[midnight hollow]

on o9s for orb phase, our healer died while it was a DPS in

how could they have died?

the fire explosion killed them instead of pushing them

[scenic patrol]

Not healed up

Fire explosion still does damage

And when he casts Bowels of Agony he drops everyone to 1 HP

[glossy musk]

I always suggest stacking in mid so you can cure 3 that and ignore

[quick verge]

there's a variety of ways to simply not die to it

[glossy musk]

Just don't do what our FUCKING AST DID and somehow, SOMEHOW

Crit your nocturnal shields and kill our DPS

Because they didn't die

[quick verge]

yeah do not shield

[glossy musk]

It was hilarious

[dull radish]

just gotta click that shield off~

[normal mesa]

that was great

[glossy musk]

You would think so but we run a SAM so he's obviously not smart enough to click things off

[normal mesa]

we got to teach our ps4 players how to click off buffs

[dull radish]

have to hotbar the good ole buff cancelling macro

[glossy musk]

Can you make a macro like on WoW to cancel buffs? Never tried but might be useful for IR

[dull radish]

yes

[glossy musk]

Nice, gonna make that

[dull radish]

should be like /statusoff I think? You'll have to take a look, but it's a thing you can do yeah

[glossy musk]

Cool, thanks

[quick verge]

yeah

it's /statusoff

[torn kindle]

/statusoff is great for AST since it quickly lets you remove bad Sleeve Draw stuff if you can't really use it right away.

[dull radish]

it's funny because macros for those are natively better than using stuff like undraw, empty royal road, etc since they can be used in the middle of casts instead of acting as an oGCD

[torn kindle]

/macroicon "Undraw"
/statusoff "Arrow Drawn"
/statusoff "Balance Drawn"
/statusoff "Bole Drawn"
/statusoff "Ewer Drawn"
/statusoff "Spear Drawn"
/statusoff "Spire Drawn"

/macroicon "Empty Road"
/statusoff "Enhanced Royal Road"
/statusoff "Expanded Royal Road"
/statusoff "Extended Royal Road"

/macroicon "Undraw Spread"
/statusoff "Arrow Held"
/statusoff "Balance Held"
/statusoff "Bole Held"
/statusoff "Ewer Held"
/statusoff "Spear Held"
/statusoff "Spire Held"

the macros for anyone who wants them

Not sure what other buffs would be beneficial to prematurely turn off.

Maybe B4B

Oh yeah Hide

[quick verge]

padding my respect content logs

wondering why im running out of mp and this mch only uses refresh once

😔

why was i running out of mp

[blazing pelican]

doing o10s clear party for shits and giggles
get 30s into the pull and see no brd/mch
healer panic intensifies

[quick verge]

2 physical ranged should be mandatory for o10s tbh

[blazing pelican]

And no bulli Sacred Soil. Damage * 0.9 is always good.

50000 becomes 45000. Lethal becomes survivalable

[quick verge]

i use sacred soil because the size of the bubble makes my knees weak

[midnight hollow]

so by the time orb spawns, whats the target hp he should be at? for o9s

55%? 60%?

[steep iris]

should be way lower

my pb was 45%

Worst run was 50%

your dps are sleeping

[thorn bear]

I've never seen him at 50%

Casual raid group life

[rapid sapphire]

ditto. i was going to say depends on if get long or short first phase but about half sounds like a good benchmark for if a group can reliably clear without panicing at enrage 😐

[midnight hollow]

why should it be way lower?

orb is not even half way through the fight

[normal mesa]

max midgardsormr can be at before add phase is 58 right?

[rapid sapphire]

if my little pea brain is working tonight about 56% at orb is our groups goal for first phase (ignring what phase was first) but that's assuming are ok with playing chicken with enrage

[vital cypress]

55-60 is doable

I've seen it a bit below 50 percent I think

[boreal edge]

@glossy musk i always have regen cancel macro because every damn whm put regen on me right before pulling

@midnight hollow 60% in minimum

any less means group dps is more than enough for clear

@normal mesa 60% minimum

any higher and you cant kill him before enrage

[normal mesa]

ah so us hitting 58-55 ain't terrible phew

[boreal edge]

last phase should start at less than 45%

[normal mesa]

not great

[boreal edge]

yeah he hit 52% for us

[normal mesa]

but not terrible

we've steadily improved, and a few of us are still sub 380 so gear will only help

[boreal edge]

killing him with around half min to spare ofc if no one died

which didnt happen in our last kill

lol

[midnight hollow]

"clear parties : duty incomplete" aka Waste of food and pots

[normal sable]

using parse enchancing drugs

I am a natural DPS

I never use PEDs

[stable basin]

Anyone got hot tips to help my static not suck at bulwark

We were doing last breath person takes tail and failed a lot, then we switched to tank takes tail and failed more and people got mad at making things overcomplicated

Current revised plan is whoever doesn't tank add picks up bulwark, then pass to the other tank if necessary at time immemorial, then we go north of south depending on where 3rd set of fireballs spawns with tether person going west and the rest of the party going east

With no real plan on how to make sure the tether gets over to them

[last galleon]

it depends on what exactly you're having problem with

is the tether pass not working correctly?

are people not dodging the fireballs correctly?

[stable basin]

We've been doing ok for the breaths and then it all goes to hell

[last galleon]

right, but are people dying because they're getting clipped by tail/explosions, or is the tether just passing around like merry go round

[stable basin]

Getting both the tether and the bulwark over to the tank while also getting people to stack properly in one spot isn't happening

Tether seems to end up on random people

[last galleon]

usually it helps if you have the party (sans bulwark) stack on one spot right after the fourth breath, and then wheover is on tether duty can swipe it then. afterwards you need to be careful with movement and never go through midgard's hitbox.

usually that's the cause of random tether passes

for my group we always do south regardless of fireball spawn position so there's less risk of people hauling ass across the field and grabbing tether. so party goes to south corner where a set of fireballs spawn, and tether goes to the south corner where the fireballs didn't spawn.

and then we do the dodges very similar to the spyro strat

[stable basin]

How tight is 1-2-1 fireball dodging?

[last galleon]

if you sprint it's pretty doable

you can do it without, but the snapshotting in o10s is pretty dank sometimes

the challenge with always doing it south is sometimes the dodges can get tight depending on whether the 3rd set or 2nd set spawn south

[stable basin]

that's my concern

[last galleon]

if it's the 2nd set then you need to be quick to dodge into the center right after the horrid roar AOEs go off

but as long as you sprint you can make it pretty reliably

[stable basin]

People are getting kind flustered about making things complicated but seems like there's no way to make every part of it both simple and comfy

[last galleon]

if it's the 3rd set, you need to be quick to get out of center after the 3rd set goes off, or you can get clipped by hot tail

but for us thats' what worked out the well since it removes the whole tether going around issue

[stable basin]

mm

[last galleon]

whereas if you always go to 3rd set of fireballs, you risk people taking tether or bulwark

when they're trying to get to position

[stable basin]

I think I'll suggest we do that since dodging 1-3-1 isn't necessarily easier all around

[last galleon]

if you just do it south, as long as you take care to not go through midgard hitbox the tether passing is very clean

and tether duty becomes very simple

they just dodge into the middle after explosions and stay there

and the hot tail will be baited diagonally

[stable basin]

Thanks

Think we're gonna go with that

[boreal edge]

@stable basin just have tank always do it

having 1 person always do the mech will make it less likely to fuck up than always random guy doing it everytime

going to 2nd balls

give you more time to move out of tail

but making moving in to hitbox harder

[opal hollow]

is anyone still getting lag on the elemental servers

[boreal edge]

ddos i guess

[quick verge]

alright my hotbars looking pretty epic so far

[opal hollow]

No fell cleave 0/10

[quick verge]

need to actually unlock warrior first

[opal hollow]

Nah raid as marauder

[quick verge]

bet

[spring dock]

okay, this is epic

[quick verge]

okay, this is epic

[glossy musk]

okay, this is epic

[quick verge]

GOD

i love eating mustard bomb

[midnight hollow]

can pld use sheltron to block chaotic dispersion 🤔

[high ether]

sadly no

since it's supposed to force a tank swap

[quick verge]

yes

they can block it

[supple sail]

yes they can

[boreal edge]

you can block it

its still swap

[elder lark]

finally cleared Suzaku ex 😄

[steep iris]

@quick verge do you wanna trap in 10s

[quick verge]

uhhh

gimme a lil bit

ok which party

@steep iris

[steep iris]

under saint conspire

in public pf

[scenic patrol]

Raiding with Conspire

[drifting beacon]

finally got a suzaku ex clear \o/, IMO it a little harder than Laskchmi and easier than Shinryu and Susanno (joined in near 4.0 release so those are the only ex I've done)

[paper solstice]

Suzaku ex is hard, because SE didn't take into account ping system outside of japan

[wet stag]

Ur just not moving fast enough

[paper solstice]

I don't know if its just me, everytime i done them people either run around in circle or try to juke and take an explosion to the face

[wet stag]

Right so

Stand at the very boundary

Then as soon as the explosion happens you run in

Like

Run into the explosion

[quick verge]

@steep iris REEEEEEEEEE

[normal sable]

doing the mechanic

y'all non greeders sicken me in suzaku

[wet stag]

Doesn't getting hit lose you like 2 gcds

[steep iris]

@quick verge 10s is suffeeing

how did you clear it with pugs

[thorn bear]

Weren't u the guy that did two enpi instead of greeding gcd in godka

😂

[quick verge]

idk

i joined a 1 chest

and here i am

parsing in meme runs

and im done melding for the rest of 4.0

[hoary geyser]

Do I have to do the Jade Stoa before Tortoise in Time is available?

[fringe granite]

Yes

Jade Stoa then tortoise in time then hells kier

[hoary geyser]

The wikis just say the quest that unlocks Jade Stoa also the next quest.

[fringe granite]

May not have been updated yet

Have you done Hells Lid yet?

[hoary geyser]

So I got confused because I had it hidden on my quest list and didn't realize the name of the requisite quest for Turtle in Time was the "Do the Jade Stoa" quest.

[fringe granite]

An Auspicious Encounter

[hoary geyser]

Yeah. I have too many quests and was preoccupied with gearing up so my tomestones weren't wasted and I hid it on my quest list lol

[fringe granite]

Hells Lid and Jade Stoa are the same quest

[hoary geyser]

God getting a 390 weapon SUCKS. The queue time for all the Omega raids and you aren't even guaranteed the drops you need....ugh.

[fringe granite]

You only need one drop

[torn kindle]

You always get the token needed for the i390 weapon after clearing O12N

[hoary geyser]

O12N?

[fringe granite]

Alphascape V4.0

[hoary geyser]

I'm at gear level 332 and my weapon is what's killing me. Everything else I get from dungeon drops doesn't even raise my item level anymore even when the difference in the equipment's item level is 10 levels

[fringe granite]

What is the ilvl on your weapon?

[hoary geyser]

310

[fringe granite]

Go do Kefka 4 times

[wet stag]

I mean you can do 8n 4 times and spend 1000 mendacity on a 360 weapon

[hoary geyser]

I ran out of Centurio Seals because I was doing my lower level gear first

Can't get the queue to pop on Sigmascape 3

So I haven't passed that yet

[fringe granite]

I just spoiled Sigma 4 for you then

[hoary geyser]

Nah

I guessed it

[fringe granite]

Then you can do rabanastre once and ridorana once and you can upgrade it to 370

[hoary geyser]

Does Rabanastre drop gear?

Have not tried it yet

[torn kindle]

i330 left-side armor

Ridorana drops i360

[hoary geyser]

???

Ridorana?

[dull radish]

ridorana's lighthouse, the second 24-man for SB, that comes after rabanastre

[hoary geyser]

Oh

Not there yet I guess

[daring berry]

a.k.a ??????????'s math class.

[rapid sapphire]

I usually feel smarter than a 5th grader doing that boss. not always smarter for being there in the first place because of the high chance I need to chain rez the randos

[quick verge]

can't raise if your swiftcast is always on cd

[fringe granite]

You could

It'd just take a while

[pine epoch]

Do you get deltascape datalogs every time you complete a savage raid?

[torn kindle]

For Deltascape and Sigmascape, yes.

[dull radish]

for deltascape and sigmascape, yeah you get one per floor for that given floor upon each clear

for alphascape they're weekly

[pine epoch]

Ok thanks 😃 I’m new to the whole raiding thing lol

[fringe granite]

Do your normals first

Savage is lots harder

[scenic patrol]

I dunno how you gonna do Delta/Sigma savage without raiding experience

Heck you'll have an easier time raiding Alpha

[wet stag]

I mean

1 is a joke though

Something something 2 pulls

[last galleon]

Isn’t the harder part actually getting into the fight

[wet stag]

Yeah

[scenic patrol]

Exactly

Good fucking luck finding 7 other people that want to do Deltascape Savage

[normal sable]

Even sigma is a stretch

[last galleon]

Occasionally see 5/6 parties but 7/8 is pretty dead

[quick verge]

you're not going to see 7/8 parties until everyone has had their fun with alphascape

[wet stag]

Ngl I do wanna go back and clear 4 for the longboye mount

[quick verge]

same

you should carry me

[wet stag]

Haha

No

[normal sable]

you'll probably only see 4/8 parties

[quick verge]

yes

[normal sable]

For unlocking ucob/uwu or mounts

[wet stag]

I suck at the game

[quick verge]

same

you should tbn me so i suck less

[wet stag]

Lol

Can I shirk instead

You cant play badly if you're dead

[quick verge]

Hallowed Ground

[rapid sapphire]

rip Fuzzy Mc'BunBuns, died of HG not taking effect in time

[hoary geyser]

Ugh. How do I gear up on weapons without spending a brazillion gil or doing Omega?

[fringe granite]

Tomes

[hoary geyser]

But that only goes up to 330

[fringe granite]

360

[hoary geyser]

Actually no not even that

The tomes required for weapons aren't in the game anymore

[fringe granite]

Not for 330 weapons

[hoary geyser]

Wait no that's for something else

Yeah

I can't find a tomestone trader at Rhalgr's that trades for weapons

[fringe granite]

It's Eschina

The one right next to the tome vendor

[hoary geyser]

No she trades for tokens and an item that requires Omega parts

[fringe granite]

Ryumyaku Gear Exchange

[hoary geyser]

Nope, prototype tomestones and tokens

That requires Omega too

[fringe granite]

Do you have at least 1000 mendacity?

[hoary geyser]

No

[wet stag]

You need 1000 mendacity to buy 10 mendacity tokens

And a prototype tomestone

So you can trade them in for a weapon

[hoary geyser]

Then I need to run Omega

But I don't want to run Omega

The queues are too long and I'm not guaranteed the parts I need.

[wet stag]

You only need the crystalloid from 8

4 of them

Which you are guaranteed

Every time you clear it

[fringe granite]

You are guaranteed this part

[hoary geyser]

I'm up to Sigmascape 3 because the queue won't pop

[wet stag]

Try again during peak

[hoary geyser]

I was queuing all day

[wet stag]

Honestly you wanna gear but you don't wanna run content?

Stop whining

[hoary geyser]

I wanna run content

[fringe granite]

Agreed

[hoary geyser]

But I can't run the content if I can't meet the item level because I need a better weapob.

[fringe granite]

We are trying to help you

[hoary geyser]

Like the weapon is the thing holding me back. I can either grind centurio seals for a 330 or dungeon run and hope for a weapon. And all the dungeons I've been in all week have given me one piece of gear out of maybe 100 chests.

[wet stag]

70 dungeons don't give weapons

[torn kindle]

Dungeons past Ala Mhigo/Kugane Castle/Temple of the Fist don't have weapons

Honestly wish they did tho

[hoary geyser]

Then how am I supposed to gear up

[fringe granite]

Guardian seems to be his roadblock

[torn kindle]

You should be able to get enough Centurio seals for a 330 weapon if you also do HW hunts

They're only 140

[hoary geyser]

I can't find the weekly hunt

[torn kindle]

which one is it?

B-ranks are kinda segregated into halves of the map

[hoary geyser]

Uniquename mcsnakelady

[torn kindle]

That one always spawns on the east side of the Fringe

[hoary geyser]

Shadow-dweller Yamini

I looked for three hours where she spawns (in the snake lady den IIRC) and nothing.

[torn kindle]

She can spawn anywhere on the east side of the map

[hoary geyser]

What.

[torn kindle]

There's multiple spawn points

[hoary geyser]

I only see her when I don't have this hunt.

It's like Ixion. It only spawns when you go offline.

[torn kindle]

Try this album

http://imgur.com/a/24yJV

[hoary geyser]

Oh God the range

[torn kindle]

Flying mounts 😛

[hoary geyser]

I don't even have flying

[torn kindle]

F

I'd make that a priority

[fringe granite]

You have an aether compass yes?

[hoary geyser]

I got fed up with the lochs' aether currents so I'm not doing it anymore

[torn kindle]

Only the Lochs suck tbh

and it's only two of them being on a longass route.

If you know someone on famfrit with spare time you could ask them to carry you to the aether currents

or pay someone to do it

[hoary geyser]

Yeah but he's too focused on getting me through the story

[torn kindle]

Tell him that you getting flight will help you do the story easier.

[hoary geyser]

He's like "worry about that later when we're not playing together" and I'm like "NO ONE ELSE IN THIS FUCKING GUILD AND NO ONE ELSE ON MY FRIENDS LIST HAS A TWO SEATER MOUNT"

[fringe granite]

Maybe tone it down a bit next time you ask

[steady pebble]

you know, there's also guides that show you where the aether currents are

if you're really not keen on hunting them down yourself

[hoary geyser]

...now that I think about it 90% of my friends list is either on another server or always offline...

[fringe granite]

Maybe try to find some famfrit friends?

[scenic patrol]

Unlocking flying in this game is not even hard tbh

[torn kindle]

a few of the currents just suck because you gotta go to Mordor to get them

[scenic patrol]

Oh yeah

[torn kindle]

Lochs having like 3 of them

[scenic patrol]

The overhead bridge one is yikes

[fringe granite]

One does not simply...

[steady pebble]

there's atleast a shortcut for that one

not the biggest shortcut, but its something

[scenic patrol]

Wish I could get someone to taxi me on my 3rd unlock of flying in SB

I have 3 characters with full SB flying

[torn kindle]

if it's on Greg I'll taxi you

[wet stag]

"i wanna do stuff but I don't wanna do stuff nyehhhhhh"

Just get your friend to sponsor a weapon for you

[fringe granite]

He's on famfrit wynne

[torn kindle]

I meant Johni

[fringe granite]

Oh

[torn kindle]

I already knew I couldn't help sumo

[fringe granite]

No idea what server he's on

[scenic patrol]

I am not gonna get any more characters

[vital cypress]

hit stupid fucking O10S's stupid fucking enrage

at 9%

i'm pretty sure I feel the same way about that fight that normal people felt about O7S

[boreal edge]

nobody died?

[vital cypress]

there was some dying

[boreal edge]

then ppl need to not die

[vital cypress]

and, uh

i think we finished the fight with LB3 up

[boreal edge]

and it will be possible

with 4th reset stuff

oh

and

free acc from chaos to everyone next reset

[vital cypress]

we're bad and cleared week 2

[boreal edge]

ah

[fossil basalt]

whoops

[boreal edge]

our 1st enrage was 18% @vital cypress

but we had loads of deaths

[vital cypress]

also somehow

O9S has dropped like three piercing accessories

er

whatever the dragoon accessories are called

we don't have a dragoon

[boreal edge]

slaying

it work on all melee tho

your sam could have gotten em

[vital cypress]

maybe they did take them, though one still wound up dropping or getting picked up by someone who can't really use it

[midnight hollow]

argh

our pug got o9s down to like 4%

[boreal edge]

rip

[junior basin]

All str based melee.

[normal mesa]

yas cleared 10s tonight, at enrage tho

lotta cleanup to do but the evil is (mostly) defeated lol

i ain't even mad that i didn't get gear/tome

just glad we cleared...first fucking pull too

[boreal edge]

gz

[drifting beacon]

reading people posts about PF'ing suzaku ex it seem like I was lucky to clear it with a "learning" PF

it also the 2nd Suzaku PF I've joined too

[eternal mirage]

I'm so happy I don't have to PF suzaku ex anymore

[supple sail]

isn't clearing content in any kind of PF lucky?

[eternal mirage]

Hmmm.

[drifting beacon]

but farm PF people with duty completed condition should be gud rite

[spring dock]

I clear all my content in pf

[heavy mist]

dat Ultimate clear 👀

[pure yoke]

all the PF Suzakus has been alright

when I did it

[quick verge]

pf is a magical place

[eternal mirage]

All the PFs I've done usually have 1/2 wipes at the beginning before consistently clearing

Tbh that's miles better than disbanding after 3 wipes and repeat in another PF

But I have my doggo now so no need anymore 😄

[quick verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/9mbr68/primal_100_pug_o12s_kill/

they rly did it

[wet stag]

Is this Reddit worthy content nowadays

[quick verge]

look at my catgirl

OwO

[wet stag]

I mean

Good job

You found a group of 8 competent people in na

You probably used discord

You used an agreed upon strat

Probably used a macro

[boreal edge]

the only difference

you dont know those 7

[quick verge]

this means i can buy my pug clear now

poggers

[wet stag]

I mean

Just buy from Elysium lmao

[quick verge]

ok but they're in aether

[wet stag]

Move to aether lmao

[quick verge]

why would i move to the bad dc

[boreal edge]

all na is bad

not like primal is remotely better

[wet stag]

Move to chaos and DC every 5 seconds

[boreal edge]

chaos actually have better pugs

but yea dc every 5 mins

[wet stag]

But you also have the french

[boreal edge]

i dont df stuff

[wet stag]

The French, spearya

[boreal edge]

anymore

[wet stag]

The freeeeeeench

[boreal edge]

i can block F from PFs easy

engrish onry

[quick verge]

eu talks about invading france

[eternal mirage]

You can't block F from PFs

It's literally in the acronym

[high ether]

Party Frencher

it frenches your party

[elder lark]

I have yet to find a second PF group that can execute Suzaku mechanics 😢

did have a FC group hit enrage last night with three people who’d never done it before so at least that was a fun time in voice chat

[brittle marten]

Quick question on Sigmascape. Are the Cyrstaloids from it weekly capped now like Alpha or can you get multiple a week since it was the last raid tier?

[steady pebble]

no, you can do sigmascape 4.0 to your hearts content and get as many crystalloids as you like

[brittle marten]

Thank you. I just hit 70 and while I figured mendacity could get me to 360, I wasn't sure if I could get a weapon this way.

[steady pebble]

yup, you just need 4 crystalloids and 10 tokens of mendacity to get the mendacity weapon

[brittle marten]

😄

[steady pebble]

you can also upgrade it to 370 with 1 rabanastran coin and 1 gougan coin

[wet stag]

yeet

[steady pebble]

gratz

[wet stag]

Ty

Grey tho lmao

[steady pebble]

get any loots?

[wet stag]

P sure I woke my entire neighbourhood too

Nah was a page run

[steady pebble]

ah shame

[unreal flax]

Congrats

[wet stag]

Ty

Tfw I gotta be up in 5

Tfw I have stuff to do in the office

[stable basin]

so

apparently

you can literally spinstrat ddr phase in suzaku and still win

it has seizure tendency though

[unreal flax]

Of course you can. That's the only way I've actually succeeded in those phases.

[stable basin]

but

it's so simple

🤔

[unreal flax]

Wait, DDR phase

not the colors

I'm an idiot

[stable basin]

yeah ddr.

[unreal flax]

No, that stuff is easy

[stable basin]

https://youtu.be/tlk8JFZ6a3s

lol

[unreal flax]

lol

[stable basin]

yeah.

[dull radish]

good ole haru strat

except he was spinning it a lot faster haha

[unreal flax]

Man, I was gonna hammer on O10S all day, but wife wants me to help her shampoo a rug that she's smelling phantom dog pee on.

[quick verge]

burn the rug

easy

[unreal flax]

It's a really nice, relatively expensive rug that absolutely doesn't smell like dog pee

I just wanna punch a dragon

[leaden mural]

Poor dragon daddy

[quick verge]

bro this dummy is highkey scuffed

[steady pebble]

Biscuit, what did you do

[quick verge]

killed it

yes

[lyric summit]

cactbot job overlay

[quick verge]

shows raid buffs

and other stuff

[lyric summit]

HP for tanks but it has stuff like the this-time-till-gcd-dies timer, aetherflow for smn, mana gauge for rdm

for some jobs it's like, just hp and mp

for monk it has like dragon kick, demo and twin snakes timers

or the PLD dot timer in GCDs

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209562337

[quick verge]

yeah it's pretty neat

so i can cast at 2.5 seconds

[lyric summit]

it's pretty uncustamizable if you don't know some programming stuff (which i don't )

[quick verge]

there's also the uhhhh

[lyric summit]

i want the pull timer but nothing else

[unreal flax]

I only use the mechanics callouts. Everything else is too much shit on the screen.

[quick verge]

how does apocalyptic explosion happen

in o11

[lyric summit]

don't see it on the timeline, fist fuckup?

[quick verge]

idk

[lyric summit]

unmitigated explosion is normal fist explosion i think

[quick verge]

it was before level checker

[lyric summit]

so i'd guess apocalyptic is fist enrage

[quick verge]

fists hit and then apocalyptic explosion

[lyric summit]

ye probably

[quick verge]

well i guess o11s is far as I go

pf actually dead

ye

level checker

[sonic olive]

Is there any reason for hottail to kill me when I have the buff?

[lyric summit]

it will deal damage, you should be topped off, and bulwark is a stoneskin basically, it gets damaged by all the dashes and thunder, fire orbs etc

if you take too much damage, you won't have enough left to mitigate the hot tail

[dull radish]

yeah basically like, bulwark has 1m worth of shield, and each hot tail taken is 200k

[lyric summit]

breath^ but yeah

[dull radish]

well, breath then hot tail, but yeah

[sonic olive]

Well I haven't been hit by any sort of orb or AOE

[lyric summit]

orbs are like 50-60k or something? plus there's the phase transition damage

[sonic olive]

before it kills me

[dull radish]

it's not just about you

it's about anyone with the buff before you

anyone that has the bulwark has to avoid taking any unnecessary damage with it

otherwise you'll kill the last person with it

[sonic olive]

No one has got hit by anything other than the firebreath and hottail

[dull radish]

in this case, someone did

[sonic olive]

hmm

[dull radish]

that's the only reason that it happens

[lyric summit]

if no one got hit then you wouldn't have died

[dull radish]

it even says, crumbling bulwark

pop triple during 2nd cauterize before he drops back down, use it to do that slick UI1 reopener

and then it's back up for that hot tail movement

[sonic olive]

Does the AOE affter the ancient dragon effect the shield?

[dull radish]

you talking about his ultimate? If it does, it's negligible. Getting killed by that generally means someone got hit by a cauterize/horrid roar/fireball or MT had the bulwark and kept it while tanking middy

[quick verge]

bulwark absorbs protostar

yeah

[last galleon]

full uptime during pantos

[quick verge]

bro the balance changed their server icon

about to leave tbh

ruined

[lyric summit]

same

needs more orange

[quick verge]

how am i supposed to get that instant

asmr

when i want to pretend my ast gave me an enhanced balance

it's like im cheating on the ast i don't have

there probably have been

gotta pad their grey parse

😔

[blazing pelican]

I steal it to pad my parse.

[quick verge]

same

[boreal edge]

who cares about livewire

just give it to everyone who isnt brd/mch

@quick verge also livewire doesnt count in fflogs

[quick verge]

it's free dps

[dull radish]

it's a pretty cozy damage buff

[quick verge]

before transcending into a scathe mage

slidecast through the flamethrower

[dull radish]

you technically can haha

pantokrator 2

yeah really just the biggest thing, which is a pretty good idea for any caster, is to just not stack with the group for that

actually have a chance to not get every AoE and can hardcast more

[quick verge]

laqi strat: kill before pantokrator dos

[daring berry]

anyone knows why in o9n, the 4 players stacking under the same stack marker during the double stack marker mechanic would just all die?

it's the part where Chaos cut off half the arena and then do tidal wave like mechanics

[fringe granite]

You're not supposed to stack the stack markers on top of each other

[daring berry]

no, we split into 2 groups

the other stack marker was at the other end.

anyway, i suspect the reason was because i used displacement onto the tainted half of the arena just as the stack marker appeared on me

[fringe granite]

Was the HP of the other stack group full ?

[daring berry]

so i ran back

i'm not sure

my group died while the other group survived.

so im guessing it had to do with me entering the part of the arena i wasn't supposed to enter.

[fringe granite]

Most likely

[daring berry]

i sprinted back into the group and made it just in time

since my group ate the stack damage and died.

[fringe granite]

You're supposed to stay inside the safe zone

[wet stag]

Just don't take damage lmao

[dull radish]

bit confused, you said water so I think tsunami, but you also said two stack markers, which is in earth or fire

[daring berry]

yeah, i stopped doing displacement on the next run

[dull radish]

displacement is a bit finnicky on chaos, have to be careful where/when you use it

[fringe granite]

Displacement on a stage with no rails?

[dull radish]

eh it's fine, just not always fine

[daring berry]

havent displaced off any platform yet

except lakshmi

[quick verge]

flamethrower location snapshotting is pretty nice

[last galleon]

i can't tell whether it's a 'nice

nice or

'i'm fucked' nice

[vital cypress]

RANDOM QUESTION TIME

does anyone have a screenshot of the O9 arena handy?

preferably as clean as possible

[boreal edge]

its normal square

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/mediawiki/images/a/a9/Alphascape_V1.0_Image.png

cleanest i could find

[vital cypress]

oh, yeah, i was hoping for the markings and such

[quick verge]

@last galleon it's nice nice

[dull radish]

well alright, I had an overhead view of the arena that someone took that I was gonna post, but apparently bot filter thinks it's explicit haha

https://i.imgur.com/6rwqOxC.jpg

[quick verge]

nani

[dull radish]

same image as before by the way, just uploaded to imgur and linked instead of just putting the image directly in here

[boreal edge]

rika posted loli hentai in o9s arena

[quick verge]

those shapes are nsfw

especially this one

[stable basin]

Can anyone recommend an active EU server for endgame stuff?

[lyric summit]

they're all active, and all endgame stuff is cross server with all of EU

[stable basin]

I mean FC wise for raids and stuff

[lyric summit]

people rarely raid with FCs, usually it's 8man groups called statics with a linkshell or a discord server

only raid FCs I know are like top 1% world race prog hardcore raiders

but that's not a good place to start raiding

[quick verge]

that word soup

[stable basin]

mmmkay thanks 😄

[scenic patrol]

I know like 5 raiding FCs

over the whole DC

👀

they are quite rare

[lyric summit]

entropy and elysium or something

one changed their name? idk

who careth

[scenic patrol]

Entropy, Ensemble

are the big ones

I know of a couple more

Elyssium is NA based

Entropy are the ones who changed from Angered

[quick verge]

so what happened to angered

then

[wet stag]

the changed their name

[scenic patrol]

nothing

[wet stag]

to entropy

nah idk

tbh

[lyric summit]

I was in a "raid fc" on my omega alt led by some ucob and uwu clear rdm guy but it basically meant they had casual prog in multiple improvised groups like 3 times a week

disbanded tho idk why

Salt or something

[quick verge]

improvised group is prob the reason

[lyric summit]

nah they had like 2-3 parties ready every night, it was casuals, o7s practice like 4 months into the tier

raid academy but a fc