belated thanks for that very NSFW picture 
#endgame-lounge
vital cypress
zinc vortex
steep summit
are we getting any new crafting/gathering gear before 5.0?
lyric summit
no
fossil basalt
it's unlikely, since x.4 is when it stopped the last couple times
steep summit
gotcha thank you
i melded my crafting set but was wondering if i should go all out on gathering didnt want to invest if the stuff is replaced in a few months 😄
steep summit
yeah if 5.0 comes out in june thats a soild 8-9 months
quick verge
if you have dragon then no slashing debuff on your nails
boreal edge
hell i just take dragon to same side and not care about which nail is there
big or small
and just go tank stance
and accept 0 dps
at least we got !bossdmg log
which do same job
quick verge
wow
my gcd is low enough where i can activate fof before riot blade and still get 2 goring blades
boreal edge
i do the same
2.32 gcd
ugh
you can do 2 goring in fof even be4 riot
only issue
your requiscat wont be under fof
which is free buffed hit
unreal flax
Isn't Requiescat magical damage?
boreal edge
it buff magic dmg
but the actual cd hit
is physical
optimized rot
use fof after riot
since requiscat has more pot than riot blade
unreal flax
Huh. Weird that Requiescat is physical damage since it's literally a lightning bolt lol. But whatever. There are people that use FoF before RB?
unreal flax
Crazy people. I use that shit at the last 1/3rd of the GCD after RB. I get like six Gorings under it lol
boreal edge
this is not IR
unreal flax
lol
quick verge
have to proceed at exceedingly high speeds
unreal flax
I was aiming for the 819SkS BiS for MNK, but that build sacs a fair amount of main stat for crit stacking and being slower.
I'm decent, but I'm not good enough to make up for the difference of like 24Str.
full wave
I switched to Samurai with all this skill speed
I've been practicing in SSS for 2 days. So far the highest I pulled was 6.5k.
I think I just got lucky with the midare direct crits on that pull
quick verge
is it possible to get a gcd low enough for 6 fell cleaves under IR
quick verge
sounds terribly bad
wet stag
!action the arrow
storm frostBOT
wet stag
You actually need enhanced arrow lmao
quick verge
let's go dude
cunning eagle
hey friends. How hard is it to get shinryu's scales?
torn kindle
Well they're only from extreme, for one so already kinda hard
The hard part is getting a competent enough party to keep farming it for scales and hoping people don't leave after getting a scale
fringe granite
Trying to make the shinryu barding?
cunning eagle
the minion
cunning eagle
I ate my chocobo
fringe granite
You ate it?
quick verge
week 10 still haven't seen past level checker
stable cobalt
So me and my static just learned tonight that in 10s the X pattern of the flip/turns is based on the bosses position and the Main Tank has him positioned him the wrong way and we all died the the X pattern (lightning time) right after that i said "Guys that right there is the definition of X gonna give it to ya"
wet stag
Booooo
stable cobalt
LOL
vital cypress
last week on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
the crew takes out Chaos in like two pulls
and now, the conclusion
(the conclusion is apparently hitting the lockout timer)
quick verge
did you get an orange
fringe granite
Too bad Estelle
analog wind
So I'm been away from FFXIV for awhile, and I'm trying to catch up, but I can't seem to find a good weapon for my RDM. I'm still using a i290 weapon when most of my gear is i330 to i350 at present. Is there a better weapon I can get easily or am I forced to only grind out weapons from Extreme Primals that I generally hate fighting?
fringe granite
You get sigmascape crystalloids that you turn in for a tomestone
Datalogs are savage
analog wind
I only have 390k to my name at present, and no skill at making items.
scenic patrol
Yeah, crafted will be your best option
Too bad you are still gearing
Because you could collect Mendacity to sell mats
And use that money to buy a weapon
analog wind
How much does it generally cost to make?
torn kindle
probably a couple hundred thousand depending on your server.
fringe granite
Depends on quality
torn kindle
Look up the recipe and see how much the materials cost.
torn kindle
NQ would be worse than their current weapon
wet stag
Don't buy nq yeah
torn kindle
Only reason to buy NQ is for glamour
wet stag
Wait is it really worse
torn kindle
in terms of weapon damage, yes.
wet stag
!item rakshasa rapier
storm frostBOT
wet stag
!item antiquated murgleis
storm frostBOT
wet stag
scenic patrol
fringe granite
!item shishio
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
!item Suzaku rapier
storm frostBOT
fringe granite
Good stuff
scenic patrol
10 WD difference
analog wind
I'll work towards Shishio for now and start planning to replace it with something stronger, but that can wait until my gear also gets better. Got lots of work still left to do.
storm frostBOT
analog wind
HoH?
fringe granite
Heaven on High
analog wind
I have no idea what that is.
fringe granite
It's the new POTD
analog wind
Ah. Is it as annoying to get as the one I remember from the original POTD? Took me forever to grind out the stuff to make the weapon.
fringe granite
That still exists
torn kindle
weapons have been made easier to get
fringe granite
And you only have 3 sets of floors instead of ten
torn kindle
you trade in 10/10 at a time to get a grip, with 10 grips you can get a weapon
quick verge
no
wheat garnet
Beside the really rare stuff you get in the high levels
fringe granite
Are they DPS?
scenic patrol
Fiend crafted weapons should sell for some nice Shekels
wheat garnet
I remember struggling to sell my Thordan ones. But maybe it changed now
normal sable
Round weapons took a nose dive after HoH
quick verge
im watching xeno gush over his samurai now that he has his omega katana
normal sable
Because they started dropping from HoH and everoyne already has it now
scenic patrol
normal sable
Is it cute trap
Cute trap has had a katana sincel ike week 1
fucking rigged
R I G G E D
scenic patrol
steep summit
Someone in my “static” was using a NQ 380 weapon 😆
torn kindle
Sounds like they shouldn't be in a static then
vital cypress
ｙｏｕ ｄｏｎ＇ｔ ｐａｙ ｔｈｅｉｒ ｓｕｂ
torn kindle
They certainly didn't pay for the right weapon.
steep summit
That’s why I left it in the nicest way possible, 2500 nin doesn’t help either 😒
steep summit
😆
scenic patrol
I wouldn't be nice to someone who holds back the group that much
it's like having perma weakness
and that assumes he is overall competent and doesn't die
quick verge
perma brink of death
steep summit
Yeah it was a rdm with the NQ 380 weapon and I think a 355 dungeon ring with other 360 stuff mixed in. I didn’t even glance at the nin gear because I was already triggered enough
Would be almost impossible to get past orb dps check lol
torn kindle
🤢
Doing Savage with anything less than Augmented Mendacity sounds like a recipe for trouble.
steep summit
“Bring food for extra dps” well at least it is recognized the group was missing a ton of dmg 😂
normal sable
!item grilled turban
storm frostBOT
steep summit
Yeah I was looking at the NQ stats and was surprised the NQ gear is so bad
torn kindle
i310 Verity weapon is better than NQ 380
waxen wagon
a lot of o9s clear parties i'm join recently have a lot of people that don't know the fight, but claim that they do... is it rude to leave the party after one wipe? especially if we couldn't even survive past the first phase?
last galleon
I mean if it’s that hopeless you do you
No point in staying for a clearly shitty party out of politeness
If it’s a simple mistake or misunderstanding I would give it another pull maybe
Like if someone thought they were at a different position
normal sable
Like why would you wanna waste your time
waxen wagon
i see... i usually stay until the leader votes to abandon, but i'm having such bad luck lately that i'm starting to lose my patience.
last galleon
Yeah no....just cut your losses early
last galleon
Yeah that’s a good rule of thumb too
steep summit
Time to craft myself a full NQ 380 set and hit up PF 🤣
steep summit
Should be criminal for a crafter to create a NQ piece 👺
last galleon
It’s honestly pretty surprising just how bad NQ stats are for their ilvl
The only NQ piece I created so far was one set of grade 3 int pots 😄
steep summit
😵
last galleon
Still managed to pawn it off to market board
Since even NQ it’s better than grade 2
steep summit
NQ gear, NQ food , NQ pots
That reminds me is there anything out there that covers dps gains of potting?
scenic patrol
it's around 5% over the duration
blazing pelican
!whologs @blazing pelican
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
please sir, all I want is a good parse for M and F
oh, and to get past Hello World with the group alive too I guess 
O9S: https://i.redd.it/40bs7agxqwo11.png
O10S: https://i.redd.it/jr6ezaooqwo11.png
O11S: https://i.redd.it/23868em2iyo11.png
O12S M&F: https://i.redd.it/i0ea4hgme5p11.png
O12S Final Omega: https://i.redd.it/ipco5kzk3kp11.png
scenic patrol
blazing pelican
regal halo
eternal mirage
quick verge
what about it
dull radish
you can only get one of the tokens per floor per week for alphascape normal
you do get one crystalloid on your first clear of 12n for the week though
smoky tiger
thanks for confirming (:
wet stag
!whologs @wet stag
storm frostBOT
wet stag
lyric summit
!whologs @lyric summit
storm frostBOT
lyric summit
[9 Historical] btw
dull radish
Powerful
dull radish
my static's first two clears were the last pull of the night just barely before enrage (first time because PLD dc'ed for over a minute, second time because half the party died to a miscall on a star/lar), both took so long haha
luckily this week was a good bit less painful, at least
dull radish
yeah so that one
everyone kinda got clipped by blaster tether
because someone was standing under the boss
quick verge
no 0% on M/F and Omega dos
lyric summit
MF is next ye obvi
quick verge
dull radish
powerfully quick wipes
lyric summit
gotta love prog days when you're spending more time waiting for aetherflow than on the actual pull
last galleon
it's why i go RDM until we make it past the 2 minute mark consistently
quick verge
just get 4 melee
dull radish
just go BLM <3
quick verge
frey wanna carry me through o11
steep iris
we got to 2nd panto in first few pulls (some people aren't caught up yet) and then we just kinda started regressing
quick verge
nice
steep iris
11 normal?
quick verge
11s ofc
steep iris
it's gonna be at least a 1 chest
but i wouldn't mind doing 11s
the fight is really fun
quick verge
i hate it tbh
lyric summit
it's better than midgar
quick verge
i get so tilted listening to eScape
dull radish
I love 11s if we don't take too long to clear it for the week, otherwise I start to dislike it a good bit. Same thing with 10s to a lesser degree, I just generally don't mind it much for the most part
quick verge
quick verge
what about it
stable cobalt
with the top image on the 10s dummy i got 5.75k and the on the bottom image on that same dummy i got 5.72k granted bard is total rng which would y'all say i should use?
also granted non of my gear is penta melded cause i dont got the money for it
normal sable
higher ilvl
stable cobalt
yeah thats what i was going to go with, ik main sub stats (crit>dh>det) over ss any day but im was still slightly worried of the super low ss
scenic patrol
Aye
scenic patrol
As long as it doesn't fuck with your rotation too much
stable cobalt
true but i still like to go for stats anyways... weird ik
normal sable
nah substats aint SHIT
scenic patrol
Also you take Crit above all else
stable cobalt
yeah ik that
stable cobalt
thats whjy i said crit>dh>det>anything else>ss
stable cobalt
well yeah
I was just worried about the super low skill speed. Much thanks for the helps
stable cobalt
my static aims to clear 10s this saturday or friday so if i somehow get lucky on drops i could get a head piece and a belt upgrade or either or/none.. depends on rng
i can't get my necklace in 2 weeks if i cant get it dropped
scenic patrol
You can ask the folks on The Balance for more advice
On BRD channels
I am just a Warrior main
stable cobalt
i sometimes play warrior.. i dont tank cause i can barely tankbuster for the life of me... ironically i play bard
scenic patrol
You get used to it
Especially in casual content
Because tank busters there happen in a very set intervals
stable cobalt
true, idk im just bad at mitigating them
cloud bluff
I’m curious what my skill speed is now. I don’t usually pay it too much attention. Can’t check from work though.
stable cobalt
I obvuously pay too much attention to it
lyric summit
i'd assume lower sks would be better for bard with the amount of weaving going on
but i guess you're losing autos too
cloud bluff
I could use more SKS actually. I’m often waiting for GCD. Proc RNG struggles
stable cobalt
Amen
dull radish
it's fun to go fast <3
stable cobalt
#DemBardStruggles
cloud bluff
I’m hoping my static can finally clear O9S this week. I want my accessories!
stable cobalt
i cleared 9s last thursday with my static at a 1 shot (i got a green parse meh) but honestly now getting 9s done i like it more then 5s
cloud bluff
Our healers struggle and someone always messes up. I cri evryteim
Can’t even clear it with pugs
stable cobalt
aether pugs? o . o idk why but im surprised
cloud bluff
I have bad luck
stable cobalt
i thought aether was the better data center for na raiding
cloud bluff
I keep getting bad healers and tanks
stable cobalt
i have shit luck overall with pugs.. but oh man primal DC has some interesting folks
cloud bluff
Oh?
stable cobalt
yeah for example back in sigma i was doing a weekly 7s clear and there was a dark knight.. this dark wanted to main tank.. and care about his parse numbers... on top of that he MT'ed the boss towards the NW dps atomic ray and on virus he got slammed to the east side (east wall)
shit was fun.....
cloud bluff
😶
stable cobalt
lol
kind scaffold
Is there any MCH expert here that I can ask for some assistance please?
valid gate
The Ultimate Grey 9thToday at 11:58 AM i'd assume lower sks would be better for bard with the amount of weaving going on but i guess you're losing autos too
misinformation
sks doesnt effect the amount of autos you put out
fossil basalt
tanks/healers stand outside the dps
lyric summit
oh yeah auto speed depends on the weapon right
dull radish
Usually denoted in PF as "dps in"
lyric summit
idk physical
dull radish
Yeah pretty much
dull radish
Heh
fossil basalt
classic pugs
normal sable
The PF classic
dull radish
Can definitely frequently happen yeah
Nah haha, just placement in relation to tanks/healers for the knockback
steep iris
I've only done dps out in pugs :D
but that's cause half of the pf are usually filled with my friends
who already have statics that do dps out strat
quick verge
frey are you doing homework
cloud bluff
quick verge
what's the pattern for the towers during level checkers
it's like
if the N/S towers are outside
then you go N?
i should macro that
at least the 5th time ive forgotten
stable basin
Hi. I have an il of 347 and I am trying to make it to 355 so I can do more of the new content. I am a red mage right now and what would be the best way for me to get to an higher armor level. I have been doing the duty roulette , right now.
cloud bluff
You can get 355 gear from The Burn and Saint Mocianne's Arboretum (Hard).
You can also buy 360 gear with Tomestones of Mendacity.
stable basin
Hmm, alright. Most of the gear, I am wearing has been bought with Menacity. The Ryumyaku set for the head, hands waiste, and legs, and Scaevan set for the body and carborundum set for the feet.
wet stag
Yeah you gotta upgrade the carborundum stuff
Also check your right side gear
Accessories contribute to ilvl too
last galleon
what are you using for wep?
iirc wep weighs heavier than the rest of the gear for ilvl
stable basin
Raiper of the Crimsion lotus which is il 300.
wet stag
Run o8 4 times
last galleon
o that's really low
wet stag
Get 4 sigmascape crystalloids
last galleon
you should look into wep upgrade for sure
last galleon
can also upgrade to 370 with coins from raba and ridorana
if you haven't unlocked the 24 man alliances yet, you should do that tooo
stable basin
Hmm, alright.
normal sable
weapon counts twice for ilvl
on all combat classes except pld
where it only counts once since they have an actual offhand
last galleon
cuz shield i'm guessing
stable basin
Well, thanks, everyone for the help
last galleon
but yea getting 370 wep might just boost you over 355 by itself
normal sable
ilvl aside, weapon upgrade is the single best upgrade in terms of damage output
stable basin
I will be sure to upgrade my weapon.
drifting beacon
how does fflogs work? does using parser automatically upload my dps to it?
glossy musk
Only requires one person to upload in the group though, just fyi
So you may have logs already
untold furnace
why all the hate for people asking if louhi is up in pagos ? I get that people are asking that quite often but not everyone is joining the instance at the same time
unreal flax
It's the same thing that happened with Pazuzu, really. Enough people ask, it becomes a meme, the non-memers find it annoying, but then they also do it when they jump instances.
quick verge
Is Louhi up
unreal flax
Literally just died.
quick ginkgo
@quick verge yeah
cyan kraken
what is louhi?
fossil basalt
so asking is pointless
cyan kraken
oops
fossil basalt
biggest boi in pagos
cyan kraken
endgame channel
fossil basalt
it's fine, eureka counts as endgame
in the sense that you have to have at least one Job at 70 to access it
quick verge
Just pad your Chaos run now so you can get an easy 95 before all the shitters start speedeunning in December/January
twilit hemlock
Hi, trying to find melding advice for the Monk, I've been told here or the Balance discord, but I can't seem to find it, could anyone point me in the right direction? 😃
steep iris
@twilit hemlock the inv link for balance is in the pins
twilit hemlock
I'm on the balance, I just can't type to ask, or even find the info 😄
steady pebble
There should be a channel for adding job/roles
dull radish
Mmhmm, #role_selection
If you don't see the reactions you want, you might need to refresh, it's a common issue
twilit hemlock
Cheers
midnight hollow
man i kept accidentally opening chat and it was pissing me off
turns out by default bindings for alt+s and a bunch of other alt things open the chat window
trying to spam a custom keybind to cast a spell for alt+3 while moving backwards
hello Say chat box
wet stag
!whologs @stable basin
storm frostBOT
stable basin
what
wet stag
GOOD SHIT
stable basin
thank
wet stag
Nice job friend
opal hollow
is there any advantage/disadvantage of m/f dying first in o12s?
rapid sapphire
I'm not aware of any considering the reset even if healers nuke mp lifelining everyone
pure yoke
blazing pelican
!whologs @blazing pelican
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
Really not happy with that O11S
People keep eating shit during pancake and I lose a crap ton of uptime for it
quick verge
use swiftcast before pantokrator
sorry guys cant raise
:(
wipe the party in the process
steep iris
my sch spreadlos on party for panko
and hope people don't get hit by shit
so we can ignore their hp until line stack
wet stag
panko traitor
vital cypress
what does an icon of Jesus have to do with raiding
dull radish
to be fair it's not really the only kind of biblical reference for the tier
quick verge
Omega sprays you with a jet of blue stuff on the second cast of flamethrower
water is blue
Jesus consumed water
fossil basalt
it's a specific kind of jesus
where he's got the halo
omega creates a halo of explosions
fossil basalt
bad buddies! 😄
vital cypress
I mean I'm probably skipping this tier
vital cypress
I need a break at the very least, though that basically means writing off the game until They Named The Sequel To Stormblood Shadowbringers
quick verge
what did he get hit by
lyric summit
like all the dashes during living dead
quick verge
can relate
torn kindle
casually takes 13 million damage
unreal flax
lmao shit's incredible
scenic patrol
Lul
split falcon
https://clips.twitch.tv/EnchantingRepleteMageNinjaGrumpy afterburner doesn't have a hitbox, change my mind
verbal sapphire
hello, im a returned player and i decided to play astro. My gear is going to be a fully crafted i380 gearset. Now the question: what should i meld in? i remember in old savage you needed to put in vitality, but is it still the case?
fringe granite
I get the advice of never meld vit in anything
scenic patrol
If you are going to prog O11S and O12S anytime soon sure
Also whoever told you not to meld VIT is an idiot
Anyhow you should meld Crit and then Det/Piety tbh
To have a nice leeway with mana for prog
verbal sapphire
well i jstu started to play again like 2 days ago, so im not sure if i get into any raid yet
i used to do a12s though and all the stuff so well
scenic patrol
Then you don't really need VIT melds
Just catch up and get some tome gear
And you'll already have enough HP by the time you get to prog 
verbal sapphire
so crit>piety>det, correct?
scenic patrol
Depends on the amount of piety you have
I think above 1.5K is a safe amount to have
Especially since AST is a mana whore
verbal sapphire
used to play SCH but got too bored, so guess ill stack up on some piety untill im more mana-efficient
scenic patrol
SCH is pretty nice, but so many God damn buttons
Doesn't help it that it's what I chose to jump into end of a tier fight with
verbal sapphire
? i could have handled more, but the new healer system feels nerved
verbal sapphire
no cleric stance dancing, less dots
scenic patrol
Yeah, but healers are overall much stronger
Especially AST since 4.4
The ground placed skill fix made AST really good with CU
An on demand Reprisal on a healer together with a nice hot with no more cost to your DPS
Since the Hot + Mitigation apply instantly now
Anyhow SB as an expansion wanted to simplify shit to bridge the gap between casuals and hardcore, spoiler alert:
People still do previous expansion dps on Extremes
verbal sapphire
😔
midnight hollow
what is acceptable dps for ast and sch in o9s?
dont play healer at all and im just looking for a ballpark
midnight hollow
oh my
scenic patrol
!charlogs Sargetanas Momo Sama
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
!charlogs Sargatanas Momo Sama
storm frostBOT
midnight hollow
both our healers combined do less than 2k
quick verge
kick them
scenic patrol
They don't press buttons
midnight hollow
theyre a part of a static i was invited too
should probably just help them improve
scenic patrol
^
last galleon
Guarantee if they’re doing less than 2k they’re standing around doing nothing
scenic patrol
Or just smashing cures for no reason
last galleon
CPM probably like 15 or something
midnight hollow
one is 700dps and one is 1k dps
scenic patrol
It's the same as DPS being below tanks
last galleon
Unless they’re wearing like previous expansion gear lul
scenic patrol
Just need them to realize one thing
scenic patrol
You don't interrupt healing to dps
midnight hollow
ill try to bring it up gently next time
scenic patrol
You interrupt dps to heal
last galleon
We’re entering the age where combined healer dps should be close to 6k
Even moreso when people start to gear up
scenic patrol
Top tier healers are at 8K combined
But the distance between 6K and 8K is quite high tbh
last galleon
Yeah I’m not expecting top tier healer dps for the ‘average’ playerbase. If healers are doing 6k combined they’re mostly pressing buttons right
quick verge
uhhh
split falcon
who names themselves ???
bronze rover
I censored them out
quick verge
literally afking
quick verge
you showed your name so
cloud bluff
What were you guys running?
bronze rover
O9S
last galleon
if you find that scary never look at 24 man healer logs 😄
midnight hollow
this is the group i was referring to
scenic patrol
And that's why they are painful to run
cloud bluff
I don't even main as a WHM or AST and I'm sure I could do more DPS lol.
bronze rover
dear god
scenic patrol
Because apparently it's fine to press buttons every half a century
The Warrior is fucking carrying them
midnight hollow
im the blm. i know im not good
scenic patrol
Every single player here except the Warrior needs to work on their fundementals
bronze rover
that pld is... okay
quick verge
not really no
bronze rover
depending on what you were doing
last galleon
3.7k isn't okay
bronze rover
and if they were mting
last galleon
even if you're mting you don't have tank stance on permamently
quick verge
if you mt as pld then you're definitely playing the game wrong
bronze rover
paladin is one of the best mts in the game
last galleon
savage doesn't really have mt/ot concepts as much as it's just who pulls
bronze rover
lol
last galleon
and who's tanking the boss at any given time
midnight hollow
ya
bronze rover
oh, its not a 24 man?
midnight hollow
just 8 player o9s
bronze rover
😐
bronze rover
I take back what I said
scenic patrol
You, as a group
bronze rover
lol
bronze rover
yeah 4k is pretty easy to reach in O9S as a PLD even if you were pulling
I'm usually between 4.2 and 4.5
midnight hollow
some of these people were pugs too
bronze rover
in that window
midnight hollow
think 3 were
last galleon
pretty sure even with that group they can brute force past o10s with enough gear
it'll take a while, sure
quick verge
they can't
bronze rover
it's because 9 and 10 are entry level raiding
quick verge
if they aren't reaching 36000 rdps on essentially 100% uptime
last galleon
technically when 4.5 drops you can get i400 left/right side without ever clearing o10s.
i'm fairly confident that'll be enough to carry even this group
not past o11s, yes
scenic patrol
This is my group for comparison, we still have things to work out on, but we can beat most enrages
last galleon
feelsbad when sam is lowest dps
bronze rover
no NIN though
scenic patrol
We have things to work on and I don't really put pressure on people, but at least there is hope
bronze rover
huge hole
scenic patrol
Eh
bronze rover
NIN pretty much a staple
last galleon
for what
scenic patrol
Not really
last galleon
for clearing? no
bronze rover
❤
last galleon
for speedkills? sure. but even then people are playing around with the idea of blm/smn/drg/brd comp.
bronze rover
I like NIN just for TA and SS/SW
bronze rover
but especially for SS/SW
bronze rover
SW is great for tanks
quick verge
everyone has their aggro tools now so
bronze rover
so you don't need to use your aggro stance at any point
quick verge
like a dps pulling aggro means they probably eat their toothpaste in 4.4
scenic patrol
Nope
There are no aggro issues whatsoever
At Stormblood
That are not related healers
bronze rover
I dunno about you but I wanna see you try and pull as a war without using defiance at all
split falcon
but warrior pulling you already lose like no dps
scenic patrol
Why the fuck would I pull without Defiance?
split falcon
^
quick verge
is there a reason to not pull with defiance
split falcon
unchained is free
scenic patrol
Yes
split falcon
yeah
bronze rover
... you realize that tomahawk under deliverance is still stronger than tomahawk under defiance even with unchained up right?
scenic patrol
Oh boi
quick verge
IR > IB > FC x 4?
scenic patrol
I lost 0.1 dps
split falcon
yeah
scenic patrol
The fucking horror
bronze rover
still a loss
split falcon
losing .01 dps for an unloseable aggro lead
scenic patrol
Anyhow Memeheaval does more raw potency than the regular opener
bronze rover
and what if you wiped with the boss at 1% and they just needed that .005 dps to pass?
scenic patrol
Lul
bronze rover
it's still a damage increase
scenic patrol
It's irrelevant
bronze rover
even if it is small, can't ignore that it's an increase
last galleon
or DH/Crit variance 
quick verge
war makes me highkey jealous
scenic patrol
You talking about pulling in Deliverance shows you lack understanding of how Warrior functions right now
bronze rover
coming from the guy who would use anything other than tomahawk in defiance on a pull lol
split falcon
if you wipe due to a tank pulling in defiance, or healers not getting autos, there are much bigger issues with your gorup
just saying
bronze rover
if you pull with defiance you use unchained into tomahawk and switch to deliverance immediately
split falcon
what
bronze rover
you never have the opportunity to use upheavel in defiance because you never are in it
scenic patrol
Because I know how to play Warrior at a higher end
split falcon
even if you don't do memeheaval, you usually put up eye under unchained before switching to deliv
split falcon
and i don't even know what this argument is for in the first place, something something justifies shadewalker?
.0001 dps increase is what's making you take nin?
scenic patrol
This is literally the optimal opener for no NIN/MNK
And it does a shit ton of extra aggro
split falcon
i dont understand why you wouldn't pull in defiance though
quick verge
need that 5% dps increase from deliverance poggers
scenic patrol
Because letting dps get smacked is the new meta
Not to mention that not having Equilibrium will make em take two smacks
So dead dps
Hurray
quick verge
when someone takes tank dps too serious
The Final Omega (10:47)
Deaths:
BLM (0:10)
BRD (0:18)
WHM (0:30)
last galleon
surprised they didn't just reset at that point with 3 deaths in the first minute
quick verge
the point is to pad their warrior
who is literally chad irl
he pulls with heavy swing
is 101 percentile on fflogue
split falcon
monkas
thorn bear
mfw 50th percentile for middy
on warrior
is 4k dps
even clown didn't have dps that low for 50th
scenic patrol
Downtime fights favor Warrior so much it's hilarious
unreal flax
I need to move deeper into the tier and stop fucking around. I haven't even tried going into O10S without my static and it doesn't feel right. I'm getting antsy.
Actually, no. I have tried it.
But that's beside the point
I want to do it now.
quick verge
enter pf
unreal flax
In other news, subbing for a friend's ranged as MNK was pretty fun lol. Because of my need to overcompensate for what would ultimately equal out to one or maybe even two missed GCDs, I started looking at other ways to optimize uptime lol
Doing the Double TK opener, using Shoulder Tackle instantly on CD will ensure that it's available for the Umbra Smash in both Late Tsunami and Late Cyclone. Also, if I'm willing to delay my Riddle of Wind for two GCDs, I can Shoulder Tackle for Early Tsunami Umbra Smash lol.
verbal trout
Maybe a dumb question, but is there some general guideline for dps numbers in Suzaku EX/Alpha Norm?
based on class
boreal edge
no
split falcon
fflogs
boreal edge
but
split falcon
but with a very large grain of salt
wet stag
@verbal trout fflogs has a per fight statistics page where you can see percentiles for each class
yeah
split falcon
cause no one parses nm and ex primal parses don't mean anything
wet stag
but it is a general guideline
boreal edge
like i would would be ok if you did 4800 as brd instead of 5200 for example in suzaku ex
but dont do 3000
verbal trout
I'm putting up between 5,000-5,500 in Suz EX as NIN
verbal trout
yeah mine does
split falcon
set your parser to like 50 seconds
cause there are so many fights with dumb intermissions now
hoary geyser
Is there any way to make Eureka any less grindy?
Levels don't seem to matter and I'm not finding a way to get more Magicite so there must be something I'm doing wrong when two people can't kill a group of two enemies
I just wanna not be killed by a level 1 in 2 hits when I'm level 5+
heavy mist
? that should never happen
is your element correct when killing?
did u buy Eureka regen potions?
@hoary geyser
Levels matter a great deal since it naturally boosts your DMG + defense to elements.
heavy mist
cause they naturally regen your health faster
and its practically free
🤔
u shouldnt be getting 2 shot anyways by a lv 1
as a level 5
boreal edge
eureka pot is needed to solo stuff
hoary geyser
I get fucked up by everything
boreal edge
around your level
hoary geyser
Pot?
boreal edge
potion
hoary geyser
How do I get 2
boreal edge
u get 1 at lv1
hoary geyser
I've been playing for an hour
hoary geyser
I have been
heavy mist
1 3 7 13 17?
hoary geyser
I can't beat the enemies to get to the next quest thing and I don't remember where to go anyway
boreal edge
to unlock quest
hoary geyser
I'm level 5
boreal edge
talk to whoever that lala is called
hoary geyser
I've gotta go to some lookout post
boreal edge
then you go to a spot in map
hoary geyser
But fuck if I know where that is
boreal edge
without mark
hoary geyser
I've been all over
boreal edge
ok rider beat me to it
hoary geyser
Ain't no way for me to get there unless the enemies hit softer
heavy mist
can either ask someone to help u get there
or u sneak around
the enemy's line of sight
split falcon
that place in particular is kinda hard to sneak around since iirc that's the shack with like 600 ghosts in it
boreal edge
@split falcon you can
split falcon
i didn't say it was impossible
boreal edge
they dont attack u at all
split falcon
and damn boy i just posted a message why you gotta ping me
boreal edge
even if they see u
split falcon
hadn't even alt tabbed back yet
boreal edge
just dont have HP below 100%
split falcon
ez then
i just remember there were a lot of enemies but i had someone acting as a bodyguard so omegalul
boreal edge
only night mob that aggro by sight even if topped
boreal edge
is some lv33 - 34 ghost at nw part of pagos
haunt is called iirc
it looks exactly like sirensong 1st boss
hoary geyser
Bluh. I just wanna do the stupid Eureka stuff alone and I can't sneak for shit when enemies can do 180 degree turns in an instant and spot me from 10000000000000 miles away and chase me for infinity
split falcon
"alone"
well....
about that...
it's possible sure, but i wouldn't recommend it tbh
hoary geyser
If I can't do it alone it should match me into a party
split falcon
doing eureka?
hoary geyser
It doesn't match me therefore it has to be doable without the difficulty of, say, doing an unsynched extreme as a healer.
torn kindle
What do you have your magicite set to for soloing the monsters?
split falcon
it's very possible solo, but it's not recommended
we didn't design the content, we just play it
torn kindle
You want it to be the same element as the monster for soloing
split falcon
that's not really relevant until you start soloing like lvl 18-19 mobs tbh
hoary geyser
I have my 1 magicite set to the one that has the sword because I don't wanna spend a billion years on one enemy
hoary geyser
Monk's supposed to be one of the strongest classes, I shouldn't be spending boss-level time on an enemy 4+ levels below me
hoary geyser
Or taking more damage from an enemy 4+ levels below me than I take on average from 6+ AOEs in Alphascape 4
That's not how leveling works
split falcon
if you're taking that much dmg then something is wrong
torn kindle
It's how Eureka levels work
hoary geyser
Leveling is supposed to make you stronger, not keeping the same stats
boreal edge
this is not your regular levelling
split falcon
it's hard to give you accurate feedback when you aren't really being honest
hoary geyser
I'm being entirely honest
boreal edge
1 level matters in eureka
split falcon
"Or taking more damage from an enemy 4+ levels below me than I take on average from 6+ AOEs in Alphascape 4"
hoary geyser
Yeah
boreal edge
it make your stats double on 1 level lower mob and half if 1 level higher
split falcon
mind you that's actually impossible because of the scaling in eureka because 1 alphascape aoe would 1 shot you in eureka
hoary geyser
But I'm not beating enemies any faster or taking less damage
split falcon
also don't waste time on mobs that are below your level
fight mobs at your level or +1
torn kindle
in a group, of course.
hoary geyser
I can only take 2 hits from enemies at my level or 1 higher
split falcon
wat
torn kindle
Use your magicite for defense, not offense
split falcon
okay wait
if you fight an enemy at your level
you won't get 2 shot
i 100% guarantee it
hoary geyser
But I do
split falcon
i can go into anemos right now and prove it
hoary geyser
Either way I get dealt more damage than I can regen
split falcon
are you using pots
hoary geyser
Why would I
torn kindle
The Eureka Potions are massive healing
split falcon
because you're supposed to if you're soloing
hoary geyser
They heal like jack shit
torn kindle
Not sure what to tell you then tbh
hoary geyser
No
hoary geyser
A what
torn kindle
It heals constantly