we never got real far into ucob
#endgame-lounge
blissful solstice
i'm a mediocre smn
pure yoke
I feel like they did UCOB first
next ridge
whats the best stuff to prepare as a gatherer for 4.4?
next ridge
I got all my gatherers leveled but idk what to gather
stable basin
Try predicting which fish seems edible but not in any recipes
Or which potato
lalafell
next ridge
lol brb gathering all the lalas
glossy musk
I'd eat a lalafell if you know what I mean
quick verge
gather red scrips and buy 999 goblin dice
next ridge
so its probably better to just wait for now until the patch out and save all my yellow seals for the new gear?
this is the first time I've had everything leveled when a new patch hits
kind of wish my server was active on the raiding scene so I could help a group out
is there a discord dedicated to crafting and gathering by any chance?
dull radish
there's crafting/gathering channels on the balance
next ridge
ahh I'm not in that discord
junior quartz
question, does arm's length work against the push in 5s?
i'm not sure i'm doing something wrong here
vital cypress
pushy ghost pops up, starts casting uh
dull radish
what timing are you using for it?
vital cypress
what's it called
dull radish
all in the mind
junior quartz
like, halfway through the cast?
dull radish
no
vital cypress
I usually hit Surecast about halfway through
dull radish
like you can time it during the cast
but it's a very fast cast
pop it when the remorse ghost's arms go up
or when the cast starts
and it'll be fine
any later, and you risk it not registering in time
vital cypress
Might use it earlier if you have a slower connection
lyric summit
just use it when you see the ghost
lucid karma
wish they add one or two seconds more to surecast/arm's
dull radish
I've done that before haha
just shortly after spawn, I usually just use its arms going up as a cue
junior quartz
so same shit as saintly beam 
dull radish
it's same with anything in the game
if you want something up in time
you gotta use it slightly early
lyric summit
yeah, it's easier to cheese with a gapcloser than the side knockback though
junior quartz
eh, the only 2 moves i've noticed such a prominent delay are the push and the beam
vital cypress
I delay it for one of the later casts where it's immediately followed by headlamp
junior quartz
everything else goes fair enough
dull radish
timing feels same as everything else in the game for me haha
but yeah, just in general, there's a duration on stuff like that, no reason to pop them at the very last moment and chance stuff screwing you over
otherwise you get the countless "I used surecast/hallowed ground/whatever cd on time, I'm sure of it"
junior quartz
;;
dull radish
just kinda how the game works with buffs/debuffs registering haha, gotta play a bit with that in mind for everything
some jobs you run into it more than others
junior quartz
tbh never had this delay problem with any bosses prior to savage
hell even titan has a decent terrain removal delay
fringe granite
What is with some and that site anyway?
junior quartz
do I have to submit my CV as well 
lyric summit
logs = cv
junior quartz
jesus fuck
pure yoke
what is cv?
junior quartz
curriculum vitae
that thing you hand out in job interviews so they don't have to say 'nah fug u' in your face
crystal mulch
you can't upload training dummy parse in ff log can you ?
blazing pelican
Who tf ranks dummy parses
pure yoke
O6S is one
blazing pelican
looks at O6S
blazing pelican
Dammit you saw my joke coming
crystal mulch
i see thanks
crystal mulch
i heard that act can be sometime not showing the correct dps
and uploading in ff would show the true parse
crystal mulch
i'm updating parse now
but for some reason on Act it shows 4500 dps and in fflog it shows 2366 dps
?? π¦
steep iris
check the fight time on the parse
it might have included some time in the parse where you weren't attacking the dummy
steep iris
check the graph for your damage
and then just cut out the points where you didn't do dps
also click "Include Overkill" if you haven't already
crystal mulch
oh it's good
i don't know how to cut out the points where i don't do dps
but i just clicked include overkill and it showed something much more normal
4747 dps
Active 100 %
steep iris
if you're on pc, hold left click on the graph from the point where you want the parse to start and release left click at the point where you want it to end
just like selecting multiple items in windows explorer or some shit
and if you don't have a graph click this https://compa.s-ul.eu/qeb6p68z.png
crystal mulch
oh ok so i'm zooming
is there a way to dezoom? i zoomed as far as i could and now it's just showing dps during 3 seconds ^^'
steep iris
reset zoom https://compa.s-ul.eu/1XpLEnJa.png
crystal mulch
ah ok thanks
rustic lichen
Nice
stable basin
I'm gonna go for it once I'm able to from Thursday on but it's gonna take some doing
Trying to learn tank cd map from scratch
junior quartz
lf>static that can carry a hopeless n00b through o6/7/8s before the week ends qq
pf salt is slowly disintegrating my existence
stable basin
6 doable, 7 and 8 wew boy
stable basin
I mean 6 is realistic
Kinda sad that 7 is just trap city because the fight done properly is an experience
stable basin
Imagine if every time someone messed up on 7n it wiped the party, there's o7s
stable basin
And then in the middle there's an intermission where everyone has to scramble to their assigned spots and then die because the searing wind healer took off too late
junior quartz
and slightly too late to get into godka endgame
but born just in time to procrastinate at rhalgr's tomestone shop all the day
stable basin
aw yiss
If you're on primal I could see if I could help with 6 at some point
Pretty easy to learn but there are hardly any learning parties because of that
junior quartz
eh i've practiced 6s a few times
have yet to get the clear
can't dare myself to do 7s and 8s on 350 though
i feel like i'm gonna get sploded
junior quartz
stable basin
6 super doable with instruction though
I went in with one other experienced person and six newbies and cleared on fourth pull
junior quartz
i swear people wipe more on 5s than 6s though
stable basin
yeah cause 5 actually has mechanics
junior quartz
2nd phase is wagonbogaloo
junior quartz
6s is just frames with some AoE inbetween
scenic patrol
But it's not active too much currently due to lack of interest in the current raid tier
stable basin
Only mechanic in 6 is hoping the healers know how to paint and dps know how to pass kiss
junior quartz
I mean that's pretty much why i'm not focusing on external sources to clear this tier's savages
everyone's already getting ready for alpha
stable basin
Yeah if you go in there and say wassup wanna clear 6 to see the sights they could probably throw something together for you
junior quartz
and i'm pretty much trying to speedrun my way through it
junior quartz
I KNOW ; A;
stable basin
Anyone who says they cleared 7 through pf after savage unlock is lying
stable basin
wew
junior quartz
On pf?
stable basin
I got one after unlock but that was a premade group
junior quartz
so you got carried
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
I am carried eh?
stable basin
I think I still have that SMN 9 on my logs
junior quartz
because it's goddamn 2:30 am and I've been doing 5s nonstop since like 5pm so pretty sure my brain already fried out
stable basin
I mean I don't think he started from grey
scenic patrol
For O7S and O8S
I cleared all savage turns in PF at some point
Just never in clear parties for O7S and O8S
junior quartz
how many mental scars of pf o7s
stable basin
!whologs @stable basin
storm frostBOT
stable basin
I gud at smn
scenic patrol
Kekkles
junior quartz
ugh i'll just stop playing for today my brain hurts so much i can't even english properly anymore aaa
i can still see all of my groups falling over 
boreal edge
hmmm
if ppl can clear o8s after unlock idk why not o7s @stable basin
there are alot of bored raiders who help
til alpha release
stable basin
no matter what people write in pf description it turns into wipe to dadaluma
stable basin
wew
boreal edge
idk about o7s tho
junior quartz
i uh, took around 1 hour helping some dude to clear o7n because everyone else kept on leaving upon the first wipe ( ._.)
it's something i guess?
stable basin
7s is a special sort of hell
boreal edge
shitty fight on literally all jobs
stable basin
ofc my 8s pf experience has been mostly clown traps but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I also haven't joined any deep god prog pfs
boreal edge
o8s is at least fun
stable basin
I'd hope 3rd forsaken prog can beat down door kefka somewhat reliably
Parties I've been in all turn into 3rd graven prog
boreal edge
i met those parties
funny thing is
it been always farm pf that turn out prog pf
all my helping clear pfs at least reach 2nd forsaken
pure yoke
o7s is pretty comfy
boreal edge
elusive jump and normal jump make biblio comfy i agree
its not hard mechanically
its just annoying cancer
vital cypress
O7S isn't really hard π
lucid karma
if your pt is competent yeah
quick verge
uptime hell
blissful solstice
everything in this game is easy if your party is competent, except everybody has different definitions of competent
quick verge
Alive
boreal edge
not dying is the minimum i will ask for
unless u dont provide enough dps even without dying
split falcon
the hardest part about savage is finding 7 other people tbh
fossil basalt
my static had a stable 8-man roster for about two months and it was glorious
and then we lost three people in the span of two weeks
wispy thistle
why are wyvernskin timeworm maps worth so much?
paper solstice
Question regarding drk blood price and blood weapon. I notice that when I pop blood weapon I can go beast mode and unlease DA without worrying about mana. When I pop blood price my mana bar just doesn't go up as fast. Do they give different mana?
dull radish
naturally. Blood weapon MP regen is based on the damage you deal, while blood price is dependent on getting hit
paper solstice
Does blood price give more if I get hit more or the dmg that is dealt to me is a lot?
paper solstice
Ah ok, I always thought they gave a static amount, didn't know blood weapon gave mp base on dmg dealt π
junior quartz
Little matters dying if your group doesn't make it before the boss enrages 
split falcon
i didn't say hard, i said hardest
just because it's the most difficult aspect of one thing doesn't inherently make it difficult by itself
lyric summit
only on JP datacenters
steep iris
dying=less dps
esp in a pug dying might become enrage
dps in pf who do at most 4k with 360-370 gear
π«
quick verge
clown dps is lowkey fucked
i joined a learning party on dragoon and had like 4.8k dps after first graven
also does dragoon litany on cd or do they wait to align with other raid buffs
dull radish
in an optimized setting you'll generally want to line stuff like that up, as long as it doesn't cost you a usage
boreal edge
@quick verge u pop litany on pull and after 3rd graven
last one should be up at 6th graven
if dps is low
junior quartz
now hard part is actually getting into 6s and 7s practice rooms
rugged jungle
This might be a silly question, but i noticed that the crafted 360 rings aren't ''Unique' like most other rings
does that mean u can wear 2 of the same at once?
dull radish
correct
steep iris
@junior quartz i'd recommend looking at a nin guide π
junior quartz
eh, i'm doing fine as of now ( ._.)
steep iris
cough i insist
if you actually want to do 7s
you 100% should read a guide and practice on a dummy at least a couple times
quick verge
isn't capping on ninki bad
quick verge
!action ten chi jin
storm frostBOT
steep iris
cause you use tcj to set up trick attack
quick verge
!action bhavaca
storm frostBOT
steep iris
and if you use tcj before your ninki is capped you won't be able to hit trick before it goes off cd
cause suiton is only 10s
pure yoke
@glossy musk @sage totem
sorry for pinging you
but kinda felt like two conversations are happening
down in VG
sage totem
Yeah probably
glossy musk
LOL hi
dull radish
powerful
blissful solstice
I'm bad
pure yoke
same
steep iris
too bad the drg was just mediocre
and only parsed a 95% historical
he's green best perf outside of that run so i kinda called it
that was my best balance uptime though
steep iris
patpat
dull radish
it's almost like holis cube level of cards
steep iris
pure yoke
who gives many solo balances
dull radish
mm I'm usually not a huge fan haha, just mainly want more clean runs since I know I can do better without being fed
I think last time I did that was like, back in creator for a bit
blissful solstice
pad meeeee
pure yoke
oh yeah
blissful solstice
jk i'm bad
pure yoke
If I get a slightly better Godka
dull radish
I usually just join to help folks clear random content or play other games haha
steep iris
dull radish
had decent execution on my best but could have gotten better, and no AST
pure yoke
I only barely gotten 7k+
dull radish
I never even got my 7k haha
pure yoke
steep iris
i'll make you the strongest drg
steep iris
i have a char on aether that i may get to raid worthy levels by alpha unlock π
but i gotta get friends who are up for pads in aether
pure yoke
I don't need to be padded that much
steep iris
i just like padding people
putting out stupid amounts of dps
i also look forward to padding someone to get 10k dps next tier
dull radish
best way to go about it <3
pure yoke
I like getting fast kill times
I have number 1 kill time in 4 fights in Stormblood
so far
dull radish
nice <3
steep iris
pro
pure yoke
it's a group effort though
dull radish
mmhmm
steep iris
i don't think i'll be good enough/invested for that
dull radish
I mainly just end up with a bit of optimization and decent kill times haha
pure yoke
the o7s number was an accident too lol
we were doing parse runs, we gotten books first
then when the boss died
I was like "the boss was 4% before he flew, we can skip this"
so we made new strat
and skipped 2nd ultros
steep iris
π
pure yoke
idk
I play this game sometimes
The Balance is a great tool for learning how to play your job, but there is some things you have to learn yourself
quick verge
4.5k pld
steep iris
healer is just about how low can you go and spamming 1 button
also hoping your group doesn't mess up
quick verge
pld main btw
3 things i've learned
divine veil is ass
passage of arms is ass
hallowed ground is ass
pure yoke
I started in 3.4
steep iris
and yeah fuck divine veil
quick verge
i started savage in 4.3
steep iris
my pug cohealers usually don't use fairy to proc veil
and so veil never pops until after aoe damage
quick verge
i've stopped using mitigation in o7s
steep iris
like every single time
pld pops veil
i'm not healing him before
nor am I going to use a gcd heal
so it just sits there wassted
like 2nd LoJ in god
pld pops veil and i'm like fuck you i'm using ES
though if sch shields after LoJ for next celestriad I suppose it should mitigate that a lil
fringe granite
You do not like paladins do you?
quick verge
meanwhile warriors get shake it off
steep iris
it's not that i don't like plds
it's more like they never use veil when it's viable for a healer
i just don't like divine veil
steep iris
need a cohealer that actually knows that fairy can proc veil
i honestly don't even know how many veils that actually procced
have saved me a gcd'
steep iris
lb cheese is too much thinking for my puny brain
steep iris
wow pro
quick verge
if they don't have sub 10% hp you're doing it wrong
steep iris
that being said
i've unintentionally lb cheesed before
lb3 by first LoJ
or trines
pretty sure we wiped on those runs eventually though >.>
quick verge
i don't know how you cheese lb within the forsaken of the first
junior quartz
so if I understand well enough, ideally on pf I am to assign everyone's place for the burst bubbles then assign 2 groups of 4 for bibliotaph
I am to do this by assigning 4 groups of 2, let's call them A B C D to divide the bubble distribution then let's say i'm assigning AB and CD as 2 groups for bibliotaph, anything else I should care about?
it's because of this i'm getting most wipes pre-virus, no one's coordinating that stuff well
including myself hence why i'm here qq
dull radish
you've overcomplicating things a bit there
usually you have two melee and two ranged/caster for dps
the ranged/caster + healer take far biblio panel, the melee + tanks take the close panel
and you just rotate in the same direction
I forget what NA standard is, if it's CW or CCW
junior quartz
i mean i understand that, but since it's pf i'm bound to have uncoordinated groups
pure yoke
PF is pretty simple
melees and tanks go North -> West
Ranged and healers go South -> East
pure yoke
generally
the rule for PF is KISS
Keep It Simple Stupid
the more complex and galaxy brain the strats are
dull radish
the more complicated, the more room for mistake
pure yoke
the more chances of a wipe
you want to boil it down to
"What do I do"
not "What does everyone do"
dull radish
mmhmm
but yeah, in this case
don't try to reinvent the wheel or anything haha
just go with PF standard and that's the best you can do
junior quartz
also the way I was told to do it was like eh
pure yoke
O7S is pretty chill
pure yoke
I never seen people do north -> east for melee
dull radish
err
ok CCW
I said it wrong earlier
I'm still a bit sick with cold haha
but yeah
dull radish
you don't get into a pf with four melee dps
junior quartz
because that happens as well qq
dull radish
yeah if it happens you have to have two people lose so much uptime
which is a pretty big deal with pf raid dps
junior quartz
i understand that matters the most when it comes to virus phase so eh
dull radish
it's not just virus phase, but throughout the fight
but especially notable for virus, sure
junior quartz
which i fuckin' hate who the hell thought of virus aaa
dull radish
you can set a priority, I dunno any time I've ever done pf O7S they just kinda wing passing rot and it works out ok
if it gets spooky low timer I'd sometimes go to take it but usually it'd just be fine
pure yoke
yeah
dull radish
usually would see wipes to virus happen from people not going to the right initial spots, or messing up the first pass
pure yoke
people generally wing ROT
dull radish
everything else is pretty ok
pure yoke
a thing about rot is that
the same person always get the same first rot
everytime in a pf
so if you wipe once or twice
you know who is first
junior quartz
on a related note, why do so many people put in like 6 marks all over the 7s map since the main positioning mechanics are pretty much the bubbles and the summon circles
dull radish
usually mark biblio circle locations, and then positions in mid for melee and non-searing tank/healer
just to give a simple point of reference of where to stand for it or whatever
junior quartz
on another related note, this is how 7s parties are usually made of in primal
it's not even mine
dull radish
eh, you can pretty easily and commonly enforce 2 melee + 2 ranged/caster, but
having extra ranged/caster isn't as bad as having extra melee
since ranged/caster can be in melee range without loss
junior quartz
until the designated blm is forced to leave his circular comfort zone
dull radish
center spot for virus is probably cozier for BLM
but it doesn't really change anything at all for them
but you could easily put someone else in there instead
it doesn't really change anything at all haha
junior quartz
vital cypress
three ranged isn't a huge deal except it requires said ranged to pay attention to what they get for virus
(or second Forsaken in Godka)
which, uh
have you met ranged/caster players
we're all idiots
vital cypress
oh
is it set in stone
i know Godka's thing just picks the two most distant DPS for Prey
pure yoke
I always gotten it
vital cypress
i assume you mean abandonment vs. wind
dull radish
virus for ranged, it doesn't matter haha
either way you go to your spot and stand there
whether you have to go mid or you have to go out with searing
vital cypress
i mean
yes, but a lot of ranged will automatically move out
then bad things happen
not saying i've done that in a 3x ranged comp before
π
normal mesa
my fav is horizontal virus and they pull the boss out of range of one of the ranged
meaning three people are now not able to attack lol
like most seem to ensure its the tank who can't hit, its weird idk
dull radish
yeah that's just tank(s) being dumb, it's nothing to do with vertical vs horizontal virus
junior quartz
how long does aether rot last btw
this is starting to sound easier than it should be ( ._.)
technically the only particularly noticeable skills I have to worry about are bibliotaph and chakra burst
dull radish
yeah usually when you focus more on your specific role in a given fight or for a certain mechanic, the difficulty drops down a decent bit
junior quartz
even then i feel like my head's about to explode
dull radish
still requires proper execution, but yeah
junior quartz
I only know what everyone is supposed to do in 5s because of 2 days grinding pf nonstop
and dps role is so basic in there you can pretty much afk your brain and focus on something else
dull radish
yeah 2nd forsaken is interesting for tanks/healers, they have to take puddles then face personal kefka clone futures numbered/pasts forgotten towards the wall away from each other, then back into puddle
junior quartz
savage kefka is what VI should have gotten instead
at least it behaves like a final boss should do
it's a tad more complicated than it looks like
vital cypress
second forsaken relies on information overload to be hard
junior quartz
because everything is raining onto you plus trying not to panic on the clones
vital cypress
which is interesting and has bound up a few friends' groups
junior quartz
which would require plenty of repetitions to get accustomed to
vital cypress
but the actual mechanic itself is probably the easiest thing in godka
junior quartz
i'm actually hoping to see savage chaos 
og version didn't have any original or standalone mechanics whatsoever
so it's nice to expect what they've got prepared for it
Train is still hard on pf
sure there's no outstanding mechanics but people can't into wagons
junior quartz
that's why I mentioned on pf
specially on the second phase with the diabolical wind spam
lack of trust and coordination does wonders in it
blazing pelican
we managed to do O7S with some randos as fill ins
steep iris
i mean, people can do mechanics correctly and do bad dps
blazing pelican
we wiped a few times from rust, but I joked we were already doing better than most pf groups since we actually saw virus 
junior quartz
post virus on pf is already an archievement
blazing pelican
Had a train where the group was basically carried by the BLM
junior quartz
it'd be understandable i guess. . . if they had a 310 weapon
fringe granite
Were they minimum ilvl?
steep iris
i do that much in my best healer parse, way more than that in my avg as war
do you know how much dps you're doing kiten π
fringe granite
I read the samurai one
junior quartz
i guess? haven't particularly bothered on my rotations yet since it seems to be working fine
plus yeah i've read rotation guides
fringe granite
Interesting read
blazing pelican
!whologs @junior quartz
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
_>
junior quartz
ha
steep iris
check image history π
junior quartz
ohno
steep iris
i'm a stalker 
junior quartz
fringe granite
I've seen you around luna
steep iris
i'm a y'shtola clone
fringe granite
Now I know not get on your bad side
junior quartz
why would you stalk some random person passing around the server what is wrong with you
steep iris
i do that to everybody, i just don't mention it unless i wanna help
blazing pelican
!charlogs Leviathan Kiren Aure
storm frostBOT
junior quartz
huh
some dude told me before he was using act and got me 4. something
so never bothered checking
steep iris
fflogs has been kind to me
fringe granite
Some guy actually tried to use it against me
blazing pelican
@junior quartz your uptime is awful
steep iris
use wat against you
fringe granite
fflogs
steep iris
if you're playing on pc i'd recommend getting act yourself and just hitting a dummy a bit
blazing pelican
!faq ninguide
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
this is literally your bible
except the doton opener
that's revelations and should be ignored cause it's fucking fantasy
blazing pelican
momo-sama π
steep iris
so just waiting for ghosts to come out between phases is the cause for fflogs tax
fringe granite
Being dead has a tendency to do that
steep iris
as most peoples' parsers cut the logs between the 2 phases and fflogs just glues them back together
blazing pelican
not right now it's not
steep iris
nah
blazing pelican
new patch next week
fringe granite
I just play the game to have fun
fringe granite
Is it a foreign concept to you?
vital cypress
much SICKNESS
junior quartz
i just got into post stormblood 2 weeks ago and i'm already being called awful wdym by fun i mean what are you doing with your existence how dare you!
fringe granite
I try to help people in your position
junior quartz
issajoke
fringe granite
I know
junior quartz
fug
fringe granite
But the post is genuine
junior quartz
also nice way to say my grandma dps's better than me
paper solstice
Question about normal and savage raid loot, outside of high ilevel, are there any exclusive loot for savage?
junior quartz
honestly all i want to do is clear kefka before the weekend ends and get over it
steady pebble
The genji/diamond weapons are exclusive to savage
steep iris
@paper solstice mount
fringe granite
For some yes
torn kindle
junior quartz
regarding the nin guide that is pinned in here, can I do the same opener without making use of the dex potion?
or in that case would I need to variate it into something else
fossil basalt
opener stays the same, you'll just do less damage
lyric summit
it's only there to show you the optimal point in the opener to use a pot for the most damage (and with the least clipping, maybe?)
junior quartz
ugh
there's no way I can link Shukuchi to it without stretching TA too much
I can actually pull it off if I use bhava instead of TCJ but even then
eternal minnow
I need a bit of help.
I'm behind on pagos, i'm at lv.19, I really really don't like it. I do want the weapon, I need the weapon because I've switched job so it will help me with powercreep and I like shiny finds. Joining the fate train right now is impossible because the fate trains go around to the high ones and no one is doing the low level ones.
Is it viable to solo? It's easy for me to solo 1 on 1 1-2 level ahead of me mobs as a bard or rdm, and it's a good farm speed. However the exp I see is attroaches
is there another way? because I can't get to the trains itself
they are all doing stuff past the lv.30 mobs and at lv.19 I just cannot keep up because I have to be 1000x more careful with mechanics and dodging monsters
lyric summit
challenge log and fate train π€·
boreal edge
@eternal minnow either do 14 weeks of challenge log to catch up or just try doing what u can in train ( high chances u will miss high level fates cuase they are far )
eternal minnow
that is what has been happening but because it's big downtime in the game, people just ain't doing the low level ones
they are either going around the lv.30+ or doing dragons
14 weeks of challenge log is next to impossible because 4.4 will drop and at that point I have raid and ultimates commitements and the seldom free time is spent farming for pots and food
from what you tell me
there is no actual normal person reasonable wait to more or less solo around pagos
because I know fate train, eureka killed any enjoyament with it
and I know you lv. in a week with it
but 1 week to 14 weeks is stupidly different
junior quartz
well so it seems it's possible to pull off a 4th gcd ta engaging with suiton and shukuchi and finishing off at tcj but for god's sake it's stupid hard ( ._.)
lyric summit
just wait for nerfs then, i370 is pretty crap anyways
boreal edge
@Kiten ( Β° AΒ°) οΈ»γβ δΈ - - -#4024 u dont need to shukuchi on opener
wtf with that tagging
boreal edge
@eternal minnow challenge log can be done in 1 hour or 2
eternal minnow
and stuff like that, free 5 materia upgrades
that's what i've been doing but the exp is kinda trash
boreal edge
u get like 1.5 levels in challenge log
boreal edge
yes
eternal minnow
I got half a level max
... i will look at it again
I might have missed some of them
thank you
1.5 level? that's quicker than fate train...
eternal minnow
yeah.. but that's the thing... is there a quicker way than fate train?
seems.. you know... far fetched
eternal minnow
fate train sucks your soul
I can't do it
did it in anemos.. I... I would literally solo all of eureka if I could avoid fate train
but it isn't reasonable
boreal edge
well
eternal minnow
if the challenge log works like you do though, it might be
eternal minnow
no it isn't
I've been through it in ARR
lv. 43 to 47
and the 48 to 50
I've seen FFXI, they didn't do the stuff like this
I farmed Ragnarok online
boreal edge
im just quoting yoshida
eternal minnow
.....
Yoshida sometimes needs a slap in the face just to wake up
the man does really good work, but when he shits, it stinks
eternal minnow
thing is..
I actually want atmas back
at least those explored the game
and let me queue for duty finder and have the chocobo out
boreal edge
getting lv35 is like the easy part in pagos
boreal edge
doing light step is 3 times more annoying
eternal minnow
I will get there when I can
boreal edge
louhi spawn more frequently than pazuzu
eternal minnow
I just want the option and the glowy stick
I really wished they had worked on Anemos instead of just making a copy and painting it white
boreal edge
boreal edge
3rd eureka
eternal minnow
worst thing, I saw the models for the mobs, they are so unique and awesome
I feel bad for the art team and animations
boreal edge
unique?
boreal edge
all those mobs you already seen in a dungeon or world or even a raid
eternal minnow
huh?
boreal edge
its full rehash
eternal minnow
where are the elephants that are inside the caves in Anemos?
boreal edge
only thing different is the zone
eternal minnow
I don't remember half these mobs though
eternal minnow
really?
there are elepahnts yeah
but not those elephants with weird design and spikes and stuff
boreal edge
its 1 out of 100
eternal minnow
it's like saying, ok there are elephants in EQ, you've seen them all for eternity in all games
boreal edge
rest is complete rehash
eternal minnow
wraiths as well
lost mulch
louhi is just ice a11s
boreal edge
wraith is ascian prime
eternal minnow
an ascian prime? wait like the one in the story?
lost mulch
those wolf
eternal minnow
they look nothing alike
lost mulch
welp wolf
lost mulch
remember the lahabrea + that one women ascian
eternal minnow
sirry not wraths then, although I still don't think so, I meant the ghosts at night
eternal minnow
the multi mask ghosts
eternal minnow
then maybe it's me, I found them new
boreal edge
also b rank in north thanlan
eternal minnow
but in eureka you tend to pay more attention to hte monsters
if you are not dying of boredom in a fate train
boreal edge
ofc because they one shot you
but they use same skeleton same look even same abilities
junior quartz
Eh, what I'm doing is using shukuchi to get into the boss at the same time the tank gets the aggro
eternal minnow
I did see reskins though
the Zuzus
the Octopus
the wolves etc
Although what is it.. the pseudo monkeys in the middle are fun
boreal edge
@junior quartz delaying opener 1 sec will not cost you much if it gonna hinder you from 5th gcd TA
doing opener right > attack the moment tank pulls
i dont shikuchi on opener and i do 5th gcd TA easily
junior quartz
i mean doing it normally is not that hard, but what about stationary bosses?
lyric summit
just sprint
boreal edge
if u doing shukuchi macro
boreal edge
you cant shuchuki on mob
lyric summit
precast suiton, use it like 0.5s before you're in range
storm frostBOT
boreal edge
rip
lyric summit
trick is like right before it falls off so dont suiton if you can't start attacking right after
boreal edge
@lyric summit
junior quartz
ehm
again, it's not that I can't pull off that opener
i'm trying to see if I can stretch it more
but it's hard
steep iris
not everybody gets it off on 1 go
as long as you wanna improve you'll get it eventually
junior quartz
rather, trying to add shukuchi to it and see if I can actually make it work but it seems harder than i thought 
boreal edge
ninja opener is easy to pull
steep iris
can't just prepull shade?
boreal edge
keeping TA aligned is the tough task
not like using shade 5 secs earlier will disqualify your aggro generation
after all aggro only matters in o8s when you have @steep iris spamming cure 3
steep iris
oh you meant after the opener?
boreal edge
boreal edge
opener is easiest part of ninja play
junior quartz
I just said-
What I'm trying to do is to close that 1 second gap that I lose reaching the boss by jumping onto it following up with the opener
but precasting suiton won't work that way and casting it midway makes me lose gcd time
not the opener itself
junior quartz
it's an habit
boreal edge
delaying opener 1 sec wont drop your dps by 100
you cant do a gcd before mudra
or u get rabbit after all
vagrant bough
Is 4.8k dps okay as monk (ilvl 350) on sigmascape training dummy?
steep iris
full i350?
i think you can push a little higher than 5k with that ilvl on mnk
iirc i did 4.7k on a dummy using rdm at i350 for what it's worth
vital cypress
which reminds me I'm really not looking forward to all my gil disappearing down an i380 gear hole
heavy mist
Sell now
vital cypress
maybe I'll be a jerk and use my 375/370 first week
heavy mist
Make big money
steep iris
my fc's crafting full i380 for me first day
all my tomestones and scrips are theirs now
fringe granite
Luna I wish your FC could share
steep iris
They're backlogged with most fc members' requests rn
cause we only have 2 crafters that can do this
fringe granite
Have you tried reaching out to others?
Maybe there are other companies who can lighten the load on your crafters
steep iris
ehh my fc isn't really that big
just a bunch of friends who only really do stuff together
fringe granite
It doesn't hurt to ask for help
steep iris
outside of that we don't really mix with other people that much
fringe granite
Provided the stats needed don't move much from where they are now
I can normal weapons and armor
paper solstice
How come SE doesn't offer a job boost for DoH and DoL?
quick verge
that'd be game breaking
unreal flax
My guess it they believe it'll blow up the economy
If no one needs to craft things like steel ingots to level, where do all the steel ingots go? SE would have to find ways of making these weak, baby crafts meaningful. Welcome to native gold crafts being needed for level 80 crafts lol
quick verge
army of gatherers/crafters making prices plummet harder than the dalamud
steady pebble
it'd be kind of nice to have cheap prices like jp servers
but...at the same time i like making decent gil off of base mats
paper solstice
Jp sever prices are cheaper?
heavy mist
Cheaper but less gil floating I'd assume compared to us in NA and EU
So might be cheaper when using our money but their gil is worth differently
heavy mist
Yeah or balmung....
vital cypress
which is kind of a double edged sword
steady pebble
mhm
paper solstice
Is it faster to level DoH and DoL than DoW/DoM?
cloud bluff
Depends how you go about it.
A lot of people just buy leve kits to level up DoH/DoL classes quickly.
cursive spear
Itβs more braindead : p Itβs mostly finding a DoH craft with easy materials and just letting the game run in the background while you watch youtube or something
Quick synth mostly
steady pebble
quick synthing is a really poor way to level
cursive spear
Itβs also an easy one though
cursive spear
Leves give more exp but require a lot more work
steady pebble
its not about leves vs quick synth
is quick synth vs manual crafting
you should be manually crafting whenever possible
quick synth is a huge reduction in xp gain
burnt bay
DoL leves don't require that much work and give you anywhere from a level to third of a level worth of xp
steady pebble
Like I literally lazily leveled several of my crafters via basic mats
But i macro crafted them
because its far better exp, even if you don't hq
you still get a huge chunk of xp just for putting as much quality progress as possible
cursive spear
Hold up, partial quality gauge gives bonus XP?
steady pebble
yes
cursive spear
shot k then
burnt bay
a lot of xp, in fact
proper yoke
Used quick synth once. Now I have 450 chamomile tea that I use for the 3% exp π
Worst decision of my life
cloud bluff
Thatβs actually good to know. My DoH classes have been neglected so theyβre all pretty low still.
burnt bay
not as much as full blown hq item, but it's substantial
steady pebble
quick synth is there for making things in bulk
proper yoke
Yea, I only use it to craft lower level recipes where quality wont matter
vapid tangle
question about Burden of the son savage
the stack mechanic
there are balls which show the amount of people which have to stack in each
We just had 3 balls and 2 balls and had the correct numbers of people in it
yet we still wiped. Can someone explain what we do wrong?
wasn't sure if I should post it here cuz it's HW and not SB endgame but someone told me to.
dull radish
yeah it's fine here <3
so, I'm assuming you're talking about second intermission on brute justice?
with enumeration stacks
vapid tangle
Yea we do unsync so we hit him down to 1% immediately
dull radish
the thing about it is, there is also vortexer up there, on the west side of the arena
who uses ultra flash
so not only do you need to resolve stacks
you need to hide behind the robot's legs that is in the middle
to line of sight the ultra flash
whether you're in stack or not
you have to be behind a leg
dull radish
no problem
vapid tangle
Okay fuck Brute justice.
" Hey it's the last week before the patch so let's do something fun together. Hey how about Alexander Savage ? No one in the static ever did that. Since we can go unsync and are overpowered as hell we can go in blind and figure things out ourselves. " - my static.
It worked until that guy.
dull radish
you can ignore almost everything, but yeah a few things will still get you
quick verge
skip books