#endgame-lounge

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opal hollow
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i've noticed like half don't have one

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LOL

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LOOOOOOL fk you're right

spice comet
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Its na

quick verge
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i370

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i363

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i350

spice comet
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Its just trap

quick verge
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all the same

opal hollow
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damn

heavy mist
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Cause if u suck

opal hollow
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i've noticed you guyshave waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people at o8s though

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what's with that

hoary socket
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Any party required i370 is a trap because whoever is running it is a moron

heavy mist
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The party wipes anyways

spice comet
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Pt has rng clear rate from 0-100

heavy mist
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So item level ain't gonna do squat now

spice comet
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O8s is the new meme

heavy mist
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Since most people can be i360+

spice comet
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Since o7s is clear by gear

heavy mist
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Instead of just raisers

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Raiders

opal hollow
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new PF filter pls

spice comet
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Yeah everyone has ilvl theyre just all traps

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Raiders r also done

opal hollow
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do it by parse :^)

spice comet
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So actually its either traps or memes

hoary socket
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But seriously, most parties don't have ilvl requirements because gear doesn't make you good.

spice comet
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The parse runners r also donr

heavy mist
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It did before 4.3

spice comet
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Done

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They're jerking around in uwu

heavy mist
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4.2 u can filter out scrubs

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Cause if u didn't clear a certain floor u don't have certain equips early on

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Etc

spice comet
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It used to be u can use gear like week 8 its still relevant

heavy mist
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Later on and now

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Its all mixed

spice comet
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I think it was 16? The tomes ppl got 360?

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And then lighthouse oofff

opal hollow
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o9s i420 min only thanks

hoary socket
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Gear still doesn't make you good though.

heavy mist
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No duh

spice comet
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It makes everyone more trap

heavy mist
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But its easier to tell early on in 4.2

spice comet
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Gear used to be able to use as filter

heavy mist
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Using gear

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Then its zzzzz

spice comet
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Yeah cause u needed actual skill to clear where u did

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Then the casuals got the same ilvl is what happened

heavy mist
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Then you can't tell by squat

hoary socket
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Still not the best filter, plenty of skilled players who don't clear early.

heavy mist
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Well yeah obviously

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But its something

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Plus parses aren't all that good early either

spice comet
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Better than nothing is the point

heavy mist
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Its all RNG based on drop luck

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If u get wpn week 1

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πŸ‘€

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Powerful boi

spice comet
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O7s used to be use to trap bads

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So at least for o8s if u put ilvl 355 it worked well

heavy mist
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Then people started to clear and here we are

spice comet
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Cause u know the ppl who got past 7 has to have contribute to the tight dps

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Yeah then gear became op, 7 wasnt a gate, 8 is a meme

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And by then u get bis to stop raiding till next tier

heavy mist
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The true memes is when the tier unlocks

normal sable
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Probably not

dull radish
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Sometimes you get a few more back but usually we're just mostly taking a break or doing uwu

sullen sable
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I'll start raiding again when I don't need to farm weekly tomes :^)

dull radish
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I haven't farmed tomes in so many weeks

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Feels good

sullen sable
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πŸ‘Œ

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Only doing the fun content πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ

normal sable
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I feel like for most people who cleared early on

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There's no real incentive created by unlocking

sullen sable
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Last tier I would practice alt jobs in unlocked savage

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Easy to find groups

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Can kill an afternoon just doing that

hoary socket
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If you want to go really hard when 4.4 drops it would be a good idea to get BiS for a few different jobs.

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So you can adjust to the content

normal sable
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Yeah but most people would already have that

hoary socket
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Only real reason unlocked tier would matter

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Depends on how early they cleared 5-8 and how long the group continued to run it after that.

opal hollow
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fk it feels good to not mess up rotation

sullen sable
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πŸ‘Œ

opal hollow
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fk it feels bad to mess up rotation

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AAAAAAAAA

thorn bear
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I'm waiting for unlock

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So I can get some dps geared

last galleon
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I’m waiting for unlock so I can reprog the tier on healer

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Don’t feel like trapping weekly parties even though I can probably one shot heal 5 and 6

unreal flax
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I'm waiting for it to unlock so I can finally get my fucking weapons.

last galleon
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Inb4 we are all trolled and unlock is 4.4....

unreal flax
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They wouldn't dare

boreal edge
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finally an orange on all rankings

opal hollow
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noice

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shits hard to get i swear

ornate blade
quick verge
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if you want an orange

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find some crafter friends

lyric summit
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guess who was the only survivor of the group's first predation 😎

quick verge
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ifrit-egi

lyric summit
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true

last galleon
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Apparently the legendary han has cleared this tier

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I’m in tears

quick verge
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he has

last galleon
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I hope you’re proud of your fellow excaliburian

quick verge
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no not really

ornate blade
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fuck i kept telling my friends we should carry yo han

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and now we cant have that honor

last galleon
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You got so many opportunities my dude

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I literally see him trying for o8s clear every night

quick verge
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Wow you can carry me instead

heavy mist
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cant

scenic patrol
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!classlogs Odin Johni Bravo SCH

storm frostBOT
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**FFLogs Data For Johni Bravo of Odin on SCH**
**Phantom Train**

Scholar: (4350/16733) [2297.47 DPS] [74 Historical] [7:45]

**Demon Chadarnook**

Scholar: (5211/16812) [2327.24 DPS] [69 Historical] [8:15]

**Guardian**

Scholar: (5566/12652) [2119.37 DPS] [56 Historical] [11:54]

**Kefka**

Scholar: (5648/10270) [2154.01 DPS] [45 Historical] [6:39]

hybrid rapids
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honest healer

snow girder
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What are good numbers for a Healer?

eternal minnow
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Will God Kefka lockout be unlocked next week?

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if not do you have any idea when?

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a healer capable of doing 2k-2.5k in current fights without letting anyone die should be plenty of enough for you to clear the fights

steady pebble
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as far as we know, savage won't be unlocked next patch

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its possible it'll be unlocked in a later patch but we can't say with certainity

eternal minnow
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got it

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can I assume somewhere in august?

steady pebble
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like i said, it might be or it might not be unlocked until 4.4

eternal minnow
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oh I see, we have no idea about it yet

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next live letter is during the rising correct?

steady pebble
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yes, i believe there's a live letter during the 14hr broadcast for the anniversary

eternal minnow
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roger, thank you kaelwryn

steady pebble
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np

true lark
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hello gamers especailly those who want to raid give this a read and tell me if theres anything missing you want to know

hybrid rapids
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Comfy guide big fan

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!faq goraid

storm frostBOT
hybrid rapids
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thinking to add Bok one too

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maybe later

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it's a frequent question from new players who wanted to start raiding

true lark
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working on raid training discord but its a slow process

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i wanted to get that document out first

hybrid rapids
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wondering if I can put 2 links under one faq

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@true lark how's this?

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!faq goraid

storm frostBOT
true lark
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looks fine

hybrid rapids
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πŸ‘Œ

vagrant gulch
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I read it. Definitely would've saved me a couple of time looking for info when I decided to start raiding

glad tapir
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a good healer stop healing at 5% boss life xD good parses always needs a sacrifice tank

vagrant gulch
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so I give it a πŸ‘

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nothing like wiping at godka enrage

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very

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COMFY

glad tapir
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even with healer limitbreak i never saw enrage in godka paissasquint the dps check seems to be easier than kefaust

scenic patrol
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It is

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But up to the end of F1

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Healing Godka is cancer

hybrid rapids
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Johni your ilevel?

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and how do you heal F1?

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starting from pre forsaken 1

scenic patrol
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Pre pull spread Lo

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FC + WD for Heartless

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Succ after Ultima if I got crit

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If not I'll also Indom

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If there was a spread critlo I'll delay indo to after Celestriad

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Succ before Forsaken

glad tapir
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safe spread adlo for forsaken, souccer is enough pre pull

scenic patrol
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Eh I don't need it for Forsaken

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Plus it heals up everyone to full before cast

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And I like the occasional LB cheese

glad tapir
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you do this that you dont have to heal much after forsaken

scenic patrol
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I only cast Succ after Forsaken

glad tapir
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spread adlo on forsaken worth gold

scenic patrol
glad tapir
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after forsaken succour

scenic patrol
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Star + Helios + Succ

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That's what we have for Heartless

glad tapir
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dont need heilios

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when you do adlo spread

scenic patrol
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We have discussed with other healers

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I was recommended the pre pull spread Lo

glad tapir
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just a waste

scenic patrol
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Is it

glad tapir
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its much more usefull on forsaken

scenic patrol
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Is it....

heavy mist
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why not try it and see how it goes

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πŸ€”

glad tapir
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on first forsaken you do spread adlo on all next forsaken you do spread adlo directly after

scenic patrol
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No thanks I'd rather stick to something that currently works and was recommended by a very good Scholar

heavy mist
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fair enough

hybrid rapids
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pre pull deploy is good, if crit don't have to heal for heartless and free LB gauge

glad tapir
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if it will last that long

hybrid rapids
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it doesn't really matter if deploy off fairy on succor

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and you have to know

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ultima and forsaken damage fairy?

scenic patrol
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Nope

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By default AOE damage doesn't do shit to fairy

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Especially raid wides

hybrid rapids
scenic patrol
steep iris
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pet deaths are annoying

hybrid rapids
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repeat πŸ—‘

scenic patrol
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Anyhow I don't do succ spreads for now

steep iris
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tsukuyomi's tank buster kills pet

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angery

scenic patrol
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All cleaving tank busters kill pets

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Maybe not wings

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But most

glad tapir
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i would guess pet has a really high magical defense

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so it just take little damage on aoe

scenic patrol
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Anyhow after that Succ for Skulls and ET Succ after

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+Indom

hybrid rapids
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saw that 6.1k? paissaowo

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it does take lower damage

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doesn't mean it won't break or weaken the shield

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deploy off a succor and pretending you're doing some healer job is a no no

glad tapir
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well never had issues with a dead pet xD as SCH

hybrid rapids
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unless you have fairy adjusted

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like being the farthest one from boss

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and deploy right after took damage

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pet doesn't dead

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but shield

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does weaken or break

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also, you will have issue of pet dead if doing UwU

glad tapir
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it would be cool when the fairy wouldnt take any damage at all so it could more focus on heal group instat of always heal her self

blazing pelican
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I lose Eos to Ultima's cleavebuster after Annihilation all the time

hybrid rapids
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homing laser

glad tapir
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well thats just bad posions

hybrid rapids
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no

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the homing laser

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is huge

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you have to adjust it

blazing pelican
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nah that's me placing her incase I get searing during annihilation and forgetting to hit 'heel'

hybrid rapids
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i lost mine several time

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after get used to position it then good

pure yoke
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I been hit by homing missile several times today

quick verge
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imagine if sch/smn pets could bait out ranged mechanics

glad tapir
lyric summit
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titan aggro generation + godka wings πŸ€”

blazing pelican
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shirk eos, send away from party

quick verge
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that'd be such a weird cheese too

uncut charm
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we experienced weird pet cheese before

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remember first few days of ramuh ex?

glad tapir
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only played WHM at this time namazuthink

opal hollow
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Can you shirk pets?

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Cuz they dont show up in ur pt list

crystal mulch
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do you agree with thzt?

topaz wolf
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sam has a high skill ceiling at a top level

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but its not hard to do well with

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nin is more difficult than drg

normal sable
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DRG is by far the easiest

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Anyone who tells you otherwise is crazy

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They have the most static rotation

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MNK is prob the hardest

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Because TK optimization is big brain shit

quick verge
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mnk looks monkaS

spice comet
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Lmao rdm is still lowest skill to learn, but that doesn't mean its easier to be good

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U can be an rdm and raise some pt mems then complain ur dps dropped thats not good :V

normal sable
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RDM is a meme class

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Fight me

quick verge
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you're a meme

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owned

spice comet
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In the end, still viable in raid depending on the player

crystal mulch
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mmh so SAM/MNK > NIN > DRG in terms of skill ceiling/cap ?

spice comet
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I mean tbh I played sam and nin, I felt it went nin was harder than sam, idk mnk/drg

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Sam is more about knowing when to click the ogcd past the initial rotation, nin sometimes the opener depended on the fight also ninja leylines

boreal edge
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ninja is literally hardest job to play now

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sam is easier than mnk

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drg and blm fight over 2nd hardest

normal sable
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How is drg hard

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someone explain this shit to me

boreal edge
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it has alot of doubleweaving and watching cds

crystal mulch
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i see

boreal edge
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your sks need to be on certain spot

crystal mulch
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so many different opinions , i guess SE did a great job in balancing the game xD

boreal edge
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to line up ogcds with your buffs

opal hollow
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was a bit dissapointed with the lack of customizability of classes at first

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but it does really help well with balancing

boreal edge
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which make big difference on drg dps

pure yoke
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DRG rotation is very simple to execute

normal sable
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yea i dunno what you're talking about man

pure yoke
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Monk is actually the hardest rotation to perform optimally

normal sable
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drg rotato is full potato

pure yoke
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at the top end

boreal edge
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i see ninja hardest

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delay TA abit

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and you ruined it to everyone

normal sable
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so don't delay

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???

crystal mulch
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what do you mean by class customisablity?

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that they look alike?

boreal edge
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its not like you want to delay it

crystal mulch
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or that they have only one way to be played?

boreal edge
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it just happens mid your rot

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delay mudra

normal sable
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it just happens

boreal edge
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and you delay ta

normal sable
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no it doesnt man

boreal edge
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and delay kassatsu

opal hollow
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you dont really have different builds

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classes are designed and balanced to play 1 way

boreal edge
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and delay ninki stuff

normal sable
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if you somehow need to delay TA

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you are a bad ninja

crystal mulch
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i see

normal sable
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TA on time is like priority #1 lmao

quick verge
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what about

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missing TA

boreal edge
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how about

quick verge
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and then getting mentally flamed by everyone

normal sable
boreal edge
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you play ninja

normal sable
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don't even joke

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about missing TA

boreal edge
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and show us

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how easy it is

normal sable
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show who what

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bruh

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people have been not missing TA evry minute

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Since forever

boreal edge
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wut

quick verge
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ive seen ninjas miss trick

normal sable
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you make it sound like its impossible

boreal edge
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ppl do it even in logs runs

normal sable
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to hti TA on time

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lmao

dull radish
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it's literally like, oh hey trick is up, lemme suiton -> trick

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it's not like it's rocket science

normal sable
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yea you have noi dea what you're talking about

dull radish
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or anything difficult

normal sable
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if it's delayed on a log run

dull radish
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it's just, using trick on time

normal sable
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it's probab done for a reason

dull radish
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yeah

normal sable
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also ironically SAM is the most flexible of all classes

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they can function well stacking 3 stats

pure yoke
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not really ironic

normal sable
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i wouldn't really reccomend anyone play SAM tho

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the cucking is real

crystal mulch
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coz it's hard?

normal sable
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no because people will exclude you

crystal mulch
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oh ye

boreal edge
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if ppl exclude you

crystal mulch
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they don't want sam and blm coz no party buff dam

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feelsbadman

boreal edge
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they are shit

normal sable
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BLM is fine

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SAM just has too much competition in the melee slot

boreal edge
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this is not uwu

crystal mulch
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^^

boreal edge
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i joined alot of o5s as san

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nobody excluded me

normal sable
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i'm talkin about uwu

crystal mulch
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i didn't understand the TA thingy does that mean ninja hard skill ceiling or not or just one precise point that doesn't mean much

normal sable
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man who t he fuck cares about weeklies

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at this point

pure yoke
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I bought an uwu katana just to rustle some jimmies

normal sable
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you can pug that shit np

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fuck these filters

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god damn

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i hope you die in a fire mug

hoary socket
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It doesn't matter if you're a sam/blm now becusee no one is progging and most are overgeared

normal sable
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are you the guy with the triple craftsmanship melds

pure yoke
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?

quick verge
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the image of the uwu katana

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with crafter materia

hoary socket
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But In very early prog sam/blm is a liability because of no raid utility.

normal sable
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some guy had an uwu katana with 3x craftsman melds lmao

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BLM in pug is suffering

pure yoke
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I should meld triple vit

normal sable
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BLM once you learn the fight is ez

pure yoke
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in honor of the best samurai

topaz wolf
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im a blm in an ultima group and im doing fine

pure yoke
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!whoami

storm frostBOT
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Au Ra, Xaela
Level 70 Dragoon [Item Level 368]
<Enrage> on Balmung

pure yoke
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fuck

normal sable
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yea nobody discriminates BLM

pure yoke
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it changed back to goon

normal sable
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despite being basically a ranged SAM

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Because the ranged slot is not as competitive

pure yoke
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because most samurais in pf are god awful

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it's more of

hoary socket
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You CAN clear with anything. That doesn't mean one party comp won't have an easier time than others

pure yoke
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"You have one job as BLM/SAM, and it's to do sick nasty dps"

topaz wolf
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well, blms are either absolutely awful or somewhat good, theres no inbetween in pf from my expirience haha

pure yoke
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and most BLM and SAM can't even accomplish that

topaz wolf
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but im doing fine in ultima personally

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i cant see why you cant prog with this πŸ€”

pure yoke
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you can just triple cast/swift alot of the moevement stuff

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eruptions no problem

topaz wolf
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yes

pure yoke
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you can triple cast and swift the titan plume + landslide

topaz wolf
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i slidecast the plume

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weight of the land

normal sable
hoary socket
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There is a reason there are 494 UwU parses for nin and only 14 for blm.

topaz wolf
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because people are biased against blm and sam

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im progging fine

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no issues with movement

crystal mulch
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lol

topaz wolf
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im doing more than my fair share of dps

hoary socket
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No, because taking a smn instead is objectively better in just about every way

crystal mulch
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494 vs 14 that's a huge difference xD

pure yoke
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you can clear uwu just fine on samurai

normal sable
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woah, lets add a small disclaimer

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for our boy

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Holis Cube

hoary socket
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I already said you can.

normal sable
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That guy is a monster BLM

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So he gets a free pass

topaz wolf
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getting fed his 100s haha

hoary socket
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But its a fact nin instead of Sam will help the party more

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Same with smn instead of blm.

glad tapir
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its because pugs dosent parse

quick verge
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know what helps the party more

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being good

topaz wolf
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^

quick verge
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pugs also haven't cleared

hoary socket
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But this difference only matters in bleeding edge content where you can assume approximate equal levels if player skill

glad tapir
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YES!

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have

normal sable
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yea i tihnk you guys are fundamentally misunderstanding the argument

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nobody cares if you're doing uwu on a non meta class

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the fact is non meta classes will get discriminated against heavily

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and should be taken into consideration

frosty stag
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I just looked at O3S guide and I don't feel like pugging that at all mewpaissa

normal sable
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why are you even doing o3s

frosty stag
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what kind of devilish human think of that thing

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having fun with my friends

normal sable
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fun

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you're a madlad

pure yoke
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man

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my aether pug group

frosty stag
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and they want to start from O1S up

pure yoke
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going to be the world first

hoary socket
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Raid is only fun if you're wiping

frosty stag
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instead of O4S

pure yoke
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double dragoon uwu clear

quick verge
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raid is only fun if you're getting a good parse

normal sable
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lemme know when u guys attempt

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the double SAM

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doubld BLM

quick verge
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double sam is meta

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lol

pure yoke
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Both Eyes Open for Dragoon

quick verge
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4 7k dps

frosty stag
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I still rmb that 1 RDM when I pug O1S

quick verge
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Kappa

pure yoke
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now we can see all aoes

normal sable
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lmao

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do eyes stack

hoary socket
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ayaparse2 πŸ‘

pure yoke
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yes

normal sable
glad tapir
pure yoke
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you can give 1 player two sights

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and they do stack

normal sable
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wow

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double the eyes

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run 3 dragoons and really pad your lone ranged dps

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give him the primo pad

pure yoke
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our bard was like 5.1k dps

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before suppression

frosty stag
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srsly tho who think of this o3s hell

normal sable
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+15% tho

frosty stag
pure yoke
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O3S is pretty easy once you seen the whole fight

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just bash your head in for a few nights

hoary socket
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Wish you could go back in time to when Alexander 1-4 savage dropped

steep iris
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how much harder/annoying is it compared to 7s

pure yoke
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umm

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I cleared O3S week 1 on friday

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O7S was week 1 but saturday

frosty stag
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around 3x annoying as I see it

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17min guide mewpaissa

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dammit

pure yoke
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are you watching MrHappy epic saga

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of overly long guides

rustic lichen
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Hali is prolly more annoying than Guardian imo because her randomness later isn't telegraphed

frosty stag
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I'm watching MTQ

steep iris
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I never bothered doing o3s cause it sounded really annoying to do

pure yoke
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it is telegraphed

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she jumps on the platform

frosty stag
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I don't give a crap about mrhappy when I saw that overlength guide

rustic lichen
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Yeah you don't know which panel tho

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I've had her jump to the platform she's already on or the one across the fucking arena

pure yoke
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but you know when she is going to jump

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you may not know which platform it is exactly

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but she is going to jump

rustic lichen
#

I did it with my group yesterday and it's not as bad, you can have a few deaths and be "okay"

quick verge
#

yeah just don't die too much

rustic lichen
#

Fucked up probably every mechanic but gear bloat and echo makes the adds trivial unless too many dead

frosty stag
#

the problem is I'm gonna pug 4 more ppl into this

pure yoke
#

Neo Exdeath is hiliarious today

#

can have like

#

10 deaths

#

and still kill it before the 9th minute

quick verge
#

Echo GWfroggerHyperXD

rustic lichen
#

I still wanna do Neo again, I cleared once and never again

#

Exdeath can die tho

pure yoke
#

I had enough of deltascape

quick verge
#

Exdeath more like

#

Capedeath

pure yoke
#

you know

steep iris
#

I had people carry me through o4s last month umaru

pure yoke
#

I agree with YoshiP

#

just turn your damn cameras

quick verge
#

eat ass

#

if im not inside the boss for melee

#

im gonna scream

frosty stag
rustic lichen
#

Okay but the thing is those black holes are actual bullshit

#

Not the cape thing but I've had times where the holes just block my way out and I'm like welp

frosty stag
steep iris
#

Were black holes really that hard? i didn't have a problem with it but it was prob cause my whole party was full 370 + had echo

rustic lichen
#

When it was relevant

spice comet
#

It was relevant the problem is more ppl were spread out

#

And u had to heal before the stack while running around urself

#

The kiting part also made it so if tanks and healers were a bit too close, ur dps would eat ur ball then rip

#

It was hard cause we were at 320 not even 340, had to mitigate for dps fire then again heal and mitigate for stack pain in the ass mech enough for me to go ast just for o4s

crystal mulch
#

what does mean nuancy ,

boreal edge
#

we were doing all blackholes on side

#

so we skipped cape issue

spice comet
#

Oh and the cape, it's not even the sides when u run in

#

U can also eat a hole under his cape, happened so many times

topaz wolf
#

lmaooo

rustic lichen
#

Rip

#

Doing it on monk felt so stupid

spice comet
#

Gotta love when holes were so bad that I had like a pixel of safe spot

#

Did some ninja moves over here

pure yoke
#

Dragoon is a very rigid rotation

#

it's not complex

rustic lichen
#

But yeah, with Rathalos and Eureka next week I don't think anyone is gonna wanna go back lol

#

Plus I already offered a "who can kill EX Rath the faster"

normal sable
#

you should stop listening to reddit

#

about class difficulty

#

Seeing as how they keep saying DRG is hard

#

A monkey could play DRG

spice comet
#

Tbh the best is experience for urself

#

They said sch was harder than whm meanwhile i can't play whm, raid on sch

craggy gate
#

I have a hard time on Whm and I also main scholar.

rustic lichen
#

Same

normal sable
#

WHM without NIN

rustic lichen
#

I can't play WHM for shit

craggy gate
#

But astro is my real weakness

#

I just suck at it.

steep iris
#

astro is fun

hoary socket
#

Sch is bae schmorning

craggy gate
#

I don't know what it is

#

I'll just let everyone die on an astro

normal sable
#

the real question is why does difficulty matter

craggy gate
#

So fast

normal sable
#

DRG is has a complete potato rotato but is one of the most meta melee dps

#

Aint nobody gonna turn down piercing, sight and litany

crystal mulch
#

sorry was in raid

#

ye i think i'll stop searching on reddit xD

#

btw did you get my DMs? @normal sable

steep iris
#

astro at a basic level is p much whm with a bit more stuff

#

and worse mp

quick verge
#

astro gets so big brain it hurts

#

earthly starring a position based on which constellations appear that night

hoary socket
#

Wut

normal sable
steep iris
#

LOL

normal sable
#

can't wait to level a ninja

#

and experience the impossibility of hitting trick attack every 60 seconds

quick verge
#

just true north every trick

#

😏

#

can't miss trick then

steep iris
#

true north is 150s cd

#

checkmate atheists

quick verge
#

stay on ass

#

can't miss trick then either

#

😏

unreal flax
#

I uh... failed Forsaken 1 by going in for the trick on CD. I don't remember why it came off CD during the Paths, but it did and I fucked us up hahah

dull radish
#

fair enough haha

heavy mist
#

You should be able to during F1 2think

frosty stag
#

as WHM I only spam stone and let the SCH do the work

#

why don't we get 2 SCH and let the fairies do all the healing mewpaissa

quick verge
#

ok main healer

true lark
unreal flax
#

Oh, I can definitely trick during F1, but for some reason, everything aligned earlier or later than it should have. And also, I was stupid lol. Didn't miss trick, though.

quick verge
#

mans never miss trick

normal sable
#

If you miss trick, you sabotage the run

#

You don't want that parse ever posted

unreal flax
#

I was so fuckin mad one time in O8S. I don't know if they were circle shirking or now, but the boss turned right as I hit the button and server ticks or whatever happened cuz I hit the fuckin thing in the flank with the entire reason I exist in the raid

normal sable
#

I miss a positional a lot during first heartless

#

Since he can sometimes turn

#

Because we run WHM withno NIN

#

Every time it happens I die inside

#

Good bye 60 potency

quick verge
#

whm with no nin

#

NUT

eternal mirage
#

I should unmute this channel. It's actually relevant to me now saitamaface

dull radish
#

yeah haha

#

but mm, what weapon are you using? And roughly what numbers are you seeing?

#

it's hard to say dps for a specific ilvl, since I haven't especially done 3m parses at various ilvl

#

but I can tell if you're around where you should be or not

eternal mirage
#

Empyrean wep (crit meld Im sure), I kill with about 5 secs to spare

#

Using the sss calculator, it's about 6.1?

frosty stag
dull radish
#

6.1 sounds reasonable

frosty stag
#

That’s pretty high

unreal flax
#

What job? BLM?

frosty stag
#

Ye

eternal mirage
#

Yeah

unreal flax
#

Oh okay

#

I'm sitting here like, "I can beat this dummy on DRG and NIN and MNK and WAR with 10s+ and none of them even come 6.1" lol

eternal mirage
#

The fact that you said CDs line up nicely wasn't something I'd noticed or thought about so that's handy (basic stuff ;;)

unreal flax
#

CDs is the funniest thing, tbh. Like, when you're not a raider, you literally use things on CD. Once you start raiding, you start thinking to yourself, "I can save this for one GCD and suddenly, it's in a buff window. Better save this" and now you're DPS is up.

dull radish
#

unless you're a BLM

eternal mirage
#

Haha yeah I could imagine

dull radish
#

you just kinda do your own thing and hope you catch raid buffs

eternal mirage
unreal flax
#

For example, the third Steel Peak for MNK. Save it one GCD and it's in Riddle of Fire.

eternal mirage
#

Greed them casts

#

Since I've experienced only 2 jobs I really don't know what buffs do what from other jobs, besides the obvs Protect

unreal flax
#

See, that's where my DPS falls off, tbh. I barely know what other people's buffs do or what their timings are, so I'll do things that would line up with the group's buffs better, but I don't know that before I do it.

eternal mirage
#

So I tend to do my own thing until I need heals, at which point I AM to healer and wait for next heal saitamaface

dull radish
#

I tend to see and know the things, but there's not much I can really do to adjust for buffs haha

eternal mirage
#

I do position myself close to party but them rare instances where everyone's running around and I'm still standing in the same spot yaknow?

frosty stag
#

I just naturally doesn’t trust any pug

#

Better just do my own thing good 1st mewpaissa

eternal mirage
#

I wanna get into savages but it's that very reason I'm worried about

frosty stag
#

Cause if you adjusted to a messed up nin

#

Your whole thing is messed up

eternal mirage
#

Just gotta hope my friends catch up to my ilvl and are up for savages

#

True

frosty stag
#

Better just do your rotation normally

true lark
#

Powerful mentor mug

quick verge
#

don't most buffs fall together quite neatly

#

!action chain strat

storm frostBOT
#
**Chain Stratagem** : lvl 66 Scholar (120 second cooldown)

Increases rate at which target takes critical hits by 15%.
Duration: 15s

quick verge
#

!action embolden

storm frostBOT
#
**Embolden** : lvl 58 Red Mage (120 second cooldown)

Increases own magic damage dealt by 10% and physical damage dealt by nearby party members by 10%. Both effects are reduced by 20% every 4s.
Duration: 20s

dull radish
#

generally yes, when actually used on cd

quick verge
#

needing the whole raid to use buffs like mch

#

:(

scenic patrol
#

generally buff alignment is pretty much use on CD after opener

#

unless there's downtime fuckery

#

in which case you save it for later

quick verge
#

the best part about this game is getting like 13 raid buffs simultaneously

golden zenith
#

is there a way to make xivanalysis lookat bio1/2 and miasma 1/2?

#

im testing a rotation on a dummy, but the site says i have 0% uptime on my dots

#

it looks like it only analysis bio3/miasma3

scenic patrol
#

what job?

golden zenith
#

summoner

scenic patrol
#

@still inlet

#

should answer that

#

since he 99% the one that worked on it

still inlet
#

It's suited to level 70 jobs in general only, especially for the time being

#

since it's expecting to look at certain constraints, lower levels will be missing a lot of the key components

#

now it could be expanded to account for earlier dots, though the need right now isn't as pressing as some of the other general smn module changes that are planned

golden zenith
#

i see, thanks for the reply :)

frosty stag
#

using high threat opener on DRK but still not enough to keep aggro mewpaissa

scenic patrol
#

I don't watch aggro on none Godka fights

#

if you take aggro

#

it's 100% your fault

#

and I won't even notice until you'll die

frosty stag
#

the bard and sam fighting over who's top on aggro

#

😭

#

I just realize I can use TBN on every tank buster in o6S tho

#

It barely break my TBN

scenic patrol
#

no reason to bother with TBN as MT in O6S

#

aside from Buster + AOE combos

frosty stag
#

Ic

quick verge
#

tbn ot poggers

unreal flax
#

It is done. It is finally done.

#

I have acquired my coffer. My DRG is now BiS.

dull radish
#

congrats <3

unreal flax
#

<3 <3 <3

#

I really wanted the spear and the coffer to drop lol so I could need both and finish the tier entirely.

steady pebble
#

gratz brit!

severe notch
#

Now learn brd and raid with me

ornate blade
#

dang is that the rising superstar drg

unreal flax
#

I'm probably gonna main DRG again next tier and just fuck about on NIN until midway through again lol

heavy mist
#

Now to look for a static/wait for one to contact me :(

severe notch
#

You'll get one your a great player

heavy mist
#

I wish

unreal flax
#

You'll get one, for sure.

#

Also, I think I've figured it out.

#

DRG dying doesn't guarantee they'll roll high. It just guarantees they'll role higher than everyone else. I won my coffer with a 45 lol. But, I died twice so it's my worst God clear lol

ocean forge
#

welp, time to learn DRG then πŸ˜„

boreal edge
#

tfw you get kicked from o8s cause i died to double hit pushback graven + auto even while i used 2 cds

#

while they kept the ninja that died to soak 3 times

frosty stag
#

Lol

#

Mb they kicked him right after

boreal edge
#

no they didnt

#

i checked

#

i just joined to help em

#

not looking for anything as i cleared already

frosty stag
#

Lmao mb he’s a friend

#

Or they just realllyyyy need to suck that nin utility

scenic patrol
#

no NIN is worth keeping someone that is multiple times dead there

boreal edge
#

there is also the brd

#

aka grp leader

#

died 3 times to pushback

#

but no

#

im the binch here

#

cause i died once and wasnt even my mistake there

#

i will get 3 hits in same time that deal 30k of my hp

#

at least keep me topped or close to it

frosty stag
#

Damn ppl

crystal mulch
#

should i go smn or brd in eureka solo(atm) challenge log ? i'm lvl 17

opal hollow
#

smn has more personal dps so go for that

#

also pet can tank if you need it

frosty stag
#

@boreal edge the rot in o7s everyone can just stack up and it'll still pass nicely right?

boreal edge
#

@frosty stag yes

frosty stag
#

then these ppl refused to listen to me

boreal edge
#

1st pass need to be done perfectly tho

#

during the charges

frosty stag
#

k nice to know

boreal edge
#

then you can completely

#

stack on top of each other

#

and it will pass on its own

dull radish
#

it doesn't pass too fast with that?

boreal edge
#

nope

dull radish
#

I'd think it would

#

since it passes pretty much right away

#

and you can't pick it back up if you had it

#

I'm pretty certain we've had a wipe once for something like that

#

where we accidentally passed it to a bunch of folks too quick

#

and then it exploded since we were out of folks to pass it to

boreal edge
#

well, i seen a vid of a grp stood on top of each other

#

and passed nicely

#

not saying ppl should do it

#

doong it that way means ppl cant land positionals

dull radish
#

it just sounds very much not a thing, unless you can link the video haha

boreal edge
#

but if you want braindead method

#

that was 1st weeks on the tier

dull radish
#

I know you can outmitigate the virus explosion

#

but this is the first time I've ever heard of stacking for virus

boreal edge
#

isnt it 99k aoe?

dull radish
#

and um, if it was a thing, pretty sure it would be widespread usage in PF

#

it's powerful raidwide damage yeah but some combination of tank LB and strong mitigation

vital cypress
#

that's some giant brain stuff

quick verge
#

passing virus to a new target based on call order

#

passing virus with no call order

#

stacking on each other to pass virus

#

using tank lb3 to mitigate virus explosion and not pass it

#

skipping virus in 6.0

#

galaxy brain shit right there

boreal edge
#

mech is trivial no matter the method you use

#

its not as bad as T2

#

where it last whole fight

frosty stag
normal sable
#

if you stack for virus

#

you're going to kill everyone lmao

#

wtf

#

it'll just pass through all your guys and you'll end up with 7 people with rot immunity

#

and 1 guy with rot

dull radish
#

yeah exactly haha

#

it's not like it auto times passes for you

#

and unless I would see like, a video saying otherwise

normal sable
#

dude like what the actual fuck kind of advice is that

dull radish
#

yeahhh

vital cypress
#

i think it’ll pass as quickly as the Internet allows

#

so basically your ping

quick verge
#

i have 3000 ping

normal sable
#

but new mechanic tho, lb3 rot explosion

quick verge
#

what next

vital cypress
#

don’t quote me on that though

#

also I don’t need virus to kill everyone

quick verge
#

i wonder if you can survive rot with spread critlo/shake it off/veil etc

vital cypress
#

my current kill everyone strategy: forgetting what β€œfour” is and dropping the circle of filth on all of the DPS

quick verge
#

my current kill everyone strategy is to watch everyone kill themselves

#

smash like if you can relate

vital cypress
#

nah

#

i have a long proud tradition of being the crappiest player in any group i'm in

#

speaking of being bad and dumb

#

on a scale of 1/kill me now how obnoxious is AST+SCH going to be on O8S

#

the first forsaken makes me nervous

#

after that it looks reasonably smooth

quick verge
#

how good is your ast's star placement

vital cypress
#

they're quite honest but pretty good at doing the healings

quick verge
#

and who are your tanks

vital cypress
#

i'm guessing the trick is going to be not using both Earthly Star and Indom for the same thing

#

and then being left to mash succor and cry

#

WAR+DRK

quick verge
#

oh

normal sable
#

We live on the edge during first forsaken

#

Godka turns around every time

#

#theedge

quick verge
#

respect content and pull out the Emergency Tactics succ

vital cypress
#

i mean

#

i figured that was less a meme and more of a thing you actually want to do

quick verge
#

idk what schs do in o8s

vital cypress
#

(i've been DPSing so far so iono)

frosty stag
#

oh I just met an AST that didn't put a prepull star

#

is that normal mooglethink

quick verge
#

no

ornate blade
#

pass virus to someone thats being raised so it gets deleted

boreal edge
#

i really dunno what im doing wrong as pld in kefaust

#

i just looked on orange pld parse

#

and im doing same shit as he do

#

yet he do 200 more dps than me for some odd reason

quick verge
#

are you using pots

boreal edge
#

no

quick verge
#

are you critting

#

try critting more

boreal edge
#

idk if he got the close mana aoes

frosty stag
boreal edge
#

cause i got blue in my all far mana

frosty stag
#

duration of the fight?

boreal edge
#

6:25

#

same as orange pld

frosty stag
#

maybe he's just DH and crit more

boreal edge
#

idk

quick verge
#

and you got the same comp?

boreal edge
#

but im doing exactly same shit as him

#

i was meta

#

so i was better

frosty stag
boreal edge
#

than his comp

quick verge
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

crit harder

#

use pots

boreal edge
#

i dont think i need pots for orange

#

i got orange as brd

#

without pots

quick verge
#

nice rng

heavy mist
#

Probably damage rolls

#

If its only 1 run

quick verge
#

just throw your face at the fight a few times i guess

heavy mist
#

If multiple runs then dunno

boreal edge
#

i cant do logs runs

quick verge
#

and you got the same gear?

boreal edge
#

as i cant parse

#

i363 bis

#

so yes

#

so finding logs pf is rare enough

#

let alone having kefaust do mana like i wanted

frosty stag
scenic patrol
#

Big kek

hot plover
#

Hi

blazing pelican
#

Yeah guys, UWU is easy!

#

looks at suppression and cries

quick verge
#

uwu is easy

#

just skip all the mechanics

hot plover
#

carry me then

quick verge
#

force enrage sequence instantly

pure yoke
#

Suppression is the easy part

#

if you done stuff like GCO

#

it's mainly do your own role

#

it's a simple flowchart

#

If Eruption -> Kite until behind sister, you don't stutter step -> If you have jail, just stay behind the sister -> If no jail, run sideways to the left and dodge both featherrains then kill jail

#

If no Eruption, run the same way up until mid, if you have sister, run behind one of the tanks, wait for screech, then proceed to break jail while avoiding the second one too

#

if you have none of those, you have light pillars

#

and you kite light pillars on the empty half of the arena, but do not be too far edge

#

I just made it sound much more complicated than it actually is

#

I wish I had a good flowchart

#

also don't use the Wheelchair Emoji racecar strat for Suppression

#

even they don't do that anymore

blazing pelican
#

Nah, you broke it down pretty well

#

It just looks complicated with no context and you have to do the whole thing in about 20s

pure yoke
#

you do not need to stutter step eruptions if you are in the right positions

#

just hold W forward

#

until you are behind sister

#

Annihilation can be harder in retrospect

#

since you have to keep uptime too

#

and you got to be quick to avoid crimson cyclone

blazing pelican
#

We're pushing into suppression at 47-48%

pure yoke
#

that is a decent number

#

45% is ideal

#

but that percentage is workable

blazing pelican
#

We actually got past it the other day, but potatoed at Ultima

pure yoke
#

on one of my reclear weeks

#

we cleared literally by the dottick

#

as in the boss died while in the fading out screen

blazing pelican
#

Kek

hybrid rapids
#

suppression is on a brain dead level with mario kart strat, but I do admit healing can be a bit tricky with healer taking mesohigh

#

Proper execution is more satisfying since you know your job and role

#

But it might take some practices to make it works

pure yoke
#

I don't like mario kart strat

#

the spread out one is actually easier

hybrid rapids
#

Mario kart is one person might kills all

#

I do spread out

#

Spread out you have to understand what to do with different role

#

Role as in mechanic

pure yoke
#

yeah but if you treat it like

#

Grand Cross Omega

#

it's pretty easy to decipher

#

because like GCO

#

you ever only have one option

hybrid rapids
#

For example an eruption / gaol / green marker / light pillar

#

You need to know all 4

#

Ye

#

Close to GCO

#

It’s fun and satisfying

#

Because you’re actually executing the mechanic

pure yoke
#

could always just cheese GCO due to no follow up stack mechanic

hot plover
#

GCO is fun af

#

still think O4S is more of the fun fights

hybrid rapids
#

GCO is an entry to ucob trios

#

So you gets to do more fun

hot plover
#

Neo enrage is awesome too

#

punching you until you die then blast

hybrid rapids
#

Neo enrage is similar to a8s enrage

#

Super cool

hot plover
#

o8s is just lame light of judgement

lyric summit
#

the only thing I didn't like about o4s was that you were done with prog at half the fight cause alpha and delta just repeated again, but 3rd/4th forsaken is kinda similar

pure yoke
#

you can wipe alot more

#

to mad heads

unreal flax
#

Lol mad heads. I was so excited to see them. And then people walk into them for me.

worthy vigil
#

How long is a speedrun of HoH 21-100 considered? I know it can vary

lyric summit
#

why would you speedrun it, at 80+ every step matters and cap wipe you any second so it's better to be safe than Speedy

#

but 21-50 are like 20-25 mins each probably

#

then you should probably start being more careful, or at least 61+

worthy vigil
#

I’ve cleared twice and I was just wondering. Never cleared POTD and I’m trying to learn how the point system works. Is it more points for kills or speed or both?

vital cypress
#

as someone late to the party, O4S is pretty cool

#

that transition vince

azure hill
#

Congrats πŸŽ‰

elder dawn
#

where do I get the avatar title

normal mesa
#

coil

#

coil savage

#

iirc

elder dawn
#

oh just from beating it or do I need to do it x amount of times?

steep iris
#

yea I think it's T8S

#

just beating it

elder dawn
#

t8? Not t9?

steep iris
#

T9S is domitrix

elder dawn
#

okay cool

steady pebble
steep iris
#

I need to beat T9S

#

anybody on primal wanna carry me through it πŸ‘€

elder dawn
#

oh jeez every floor of second coil savage gives you a title wew

steep iris
#

yup

steady pebble
#

mhm

#

cos it didn't give gear

elder dawn
#

how braindead is unsync

steady pebble
#

like the whole point of savage was for the challenge back then

lyric summit
#

make a PF, it dies in like 20 seconds with like 4 70s

steep iris
#

T6S, T7S, T8S are pretty braindead

#

T9S still requires doing mechs tho

#

just like T9

#

if you need people inv me to your party πŸ‘€

elder dawn
#

guess I'll have something to do in 4.5 then πŸ‘€

lyric summit
#

spin strat? maybe? πŸ€”

elder dawn
#

nah don't feel like doing that now. Still gotta kill behemoth

steady pebble
#

still gotta know how to do the spin strat lol

steep iris
#

lol I tried to spin the boss as a war

#

i failed pretty terribly

unique wolf
scenic patrol
#

healers having stronger opener than PLD

steep iris
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very strong opener

quick verge
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just use the dcrit requiescat opener

steep iris
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messing around with friends

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LOL

flat roost
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How much does the tank stat affect damage reduction?

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Tenacity that is.

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if I went ham on it, would it reduce 15k attacks by 2k?

quick verge
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there's a doc to show the damage reduction on tenacity based on stat tiers

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out somewhere

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not worth it either way

boreal edge
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its 200 per 1%

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@blazing pelican gl in clearing uwu

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mario kart suppression is as bad as T9 mario kart

lyric summit
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6/8 uwu kill pug on chaos wish me Luck paissaowo

sullen sable
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Godspeed

zinc vortex
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god bless

quick verge
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kill pug

valid gate