Gotta hit a WAR from behind with prechange Intuition
#endgame-lounge
arctic field
I think that was for all of one patch
opal hollow
Did awareness cancel that out? 😏
arctic field
No idea
snow girder
Can Scholar still critlo a warrior with raw intiutuion?
dull radish
no
that was patched out very quick
well like
you can
but you can't get guaranteed crit
snow girder
Damn. Thanks
vital cypress
dead content question time
the stupid way to do GCO for idiots is for everyone but the SCH to jump off the level, have them dodge everything (and resolve beyond death somewhere in there) then LB3 right
right after almagest goes off?
dull radish
almagest is too late
you'd need to have LB go off to have people raise after the flood of naught, before the almagest
alternatively with enough raid dps you can probably just clear before GCO now
vital cypress
this assumes the scholar isn't a moron
(the scholar is a moron)
i don't know how low Ned was when we were hitting GCO last night, lots of dying was involved along the way though :x
dull radish
honestly if you're looking to cheese GCO a bit you're probably best off just making sure the folsk with allagan field live through GCO at least and just tank LB the flood
trivializes the damage from the flood, allagan field, and then it's just the alma
true lark
grats @steel nimbus uwu down
vital cypress
is still kinda hard surprisingly
steel nimbus
are you posting this everywhere
vital cypress
though i guess no one in my static was actually playing back when it was relevant
sullen sable
Lmao congrats
heavy mist
congrats Clees
unreal flax
Congrats!
opal hollow
damn
finally got my 10 runs done of tsuku ex
turns out not having min ilvl as a requirement stops you from getting trapped as hard
boreal edge
glass gale
What's the uptime gain on WAR strat in o5s?
opal hollow
does anyone have a guess as to when sigma savage unlocks?
people were saying next week
hybrid rapids
Guess isn’t going to be accurate anyway
boreal edge
should be late august
boreal edge
well it supposed to be
if eureka isnt included
eureka supposed to be here last week
but got delayed too much
dull radish
I don't see why the unlock can't come the same time as eureka
boreal edge
but i guess they did delay so they release it with MHW in same time
than do 2 different patches
opal hollow
i feel like eureka and sigma overlapping shouldn't matter
dull radish
It doesn't
opal hollow
people who do eureka for gear will do eureka for gear
boreal edge
why do eureka when you could get i370 in 3 weeks
opal hollow
and vice versa for sigma
dull radish
People aren't suddenly gonna start doing Savage that weren't already
opal hollow
^
quick verge
agreed
arctic field
Being unlocked won't magically make them better either...
lucid karma
People can also see no point going for BiS/max ilvl because they don't play seriously in the first place
Also being casual doesn't equal being bad
You can be bad yet still have a lot of time played, like me 
torn kindle
I hope the moonfaire event comes soon, i need those shades ;-;
valid gate
Your Future Chat ModeratorToday at 3:21 AM why do eureka when you could get i370 in 3 weeks
???????????
the point of eureka isn't gear though
it's glamour and timekiller content
lmao
lucid karma
Even so i350 is enough for almost every content right now
Providing you are good for enough
topaz wolf
350 is enough for every piece of content besides Ultima
boreal edge
@valid gate except its not for glam?
opal hollow
o8s at 350 monkaS
boreal edge
u dont need to be raider to justify ilvl increase
but i know what u talking about from raider pov
boreal edge
clearing raid tier 1st week is clser to clearing ultimate fight in term of intensity
opal hollow
i know i can pull 6k at i355 if im not being bad
valid gate
lol.
quick verge
im stupid
opal hollow
but i350 seems a bit diferent
valid gate
the two literally aren't even comparable.
valid gate
once you had the sequence down, yes, it was not hard.
i think we had... one clean faustka wipe ever.
dull radish
There's also a large difference between being a joke and being very tough
It wasn't a walk in the park but it's nowhere near comparable to ultimate
valid gate
comparing four fights that you can pound out in a single day to a single fight that takes almost a week+ to clear doesn't really make sense
dull radish
Mmhmm
lucid karma
also skill level matters
for everyone in your team
not even one man superstar can carry everyone else to victory
boreal edge
idm carry one person
lucid karma
exactly
normal mesa
mmmmmmmm
normal mesa
-weeps-
pure yoke
Savage clearing is literally a sprint
pure yoke
well it's a sprint for more hardcore players
severe notch
It's a slight jog for my level I feel
zinc vortex
it's a nice stroll on the beach :)
glossy musk
How do you do that low as a healer though
hoary socket
Pretty sure you can get that low if you only push healing buttons. 
daring berry
you mean RESPECTING CONTENT
frosty stag
mb he just jump off the cliff or something
I had 1 like that in my o1s too
he's just dead 80% of the time
steep iris
did you guys clear
steep iris
prob thought he was doing some mad dps
frosty stag
fresh learning with my friends and some pug
we were just fooling around in deltascape savage
hoary socket
Death
waxen wagon
how much more difficult is sigmascape savage v3 and v4 compared to the first two?
sour solstice
its quite a jump from 6 to 7
steep iris
deaths matter much more
if 1 guy's dead during certain mechs it's prob a wipe
if people can't pull their weight then you'll hit enrage
waxen wagon
are the mechanics harder to memorize compared to 6 and 7?
sour solstice
^
steep iris
cause 6s is pretty braindead
honestly the real difficulty for 7s is finding a good group
steep iris
this late in the tier, most people who are attempting to clear 7s are either the bads who've been blocked by the difficulty wall
sour solstice
im in the bads category
steep iris
but not to say everybody in practice/clear parties are bad
sour solstice
😔
steep iris
some people have joined the tier late or some people just want to help out
waxen wagon
i have a guild that has cleared it already, but wants to take me along so i could experience the content. but i'm not sure i even want to go, in case i make them regret it.
i had no trouble with 6, but it took me a while to do the last kiss properly for 7.
steep iris
go for it
if you can do your individual mechanics right for 5s and 6s you'll be fine honestly
like I said, the real difficulty is getting a good group
spice comet
U doing mechs correctly or incorrectly has more impact in 3/4 and 7/8 but it's better to go in to learn if u have an experienced group
steep iris
also callouts for 7s helps a LOT
severe notch
it's quite a big of a jump
steep iris
I'm assuming your fc will call out the mechs for you
before going in you might want to watch a vid/read a guide though
knowing what to expect makes the fight a lot easier
it's also important that you understand how virus phase works
steep iris
it's not hard at all, just confusing
spice comet
The comparison is it takes a mc group like 3 hrs to clear 5+6 day raid released then it takes them about 9ish for 7s clear
sour solstice
waxen wagon
oh, sorry.
spice comet
In terms of difficulty its that kind of jump
waxen wagon
i see...
hoary socket
Have run with Rot passing lol
spice comet
Well assuming u go with ppl who alrdy clear, it's rly just u learning the mechs and them not messing up too much for a clear
He could skip rot entirely if his pt does it lol
hoary socket
True. Just be glad you don't need to pass it for almost the entire first like in coil
waxen wagon
alright, thanks everyone. i'll read/watch the guides first and see how i feel about it.
stable basin
@opal hollow Congrats!
quick verge
yeet
opal hollow
400 k to remeld
i had to meld 2 sks to just barely make it to the next tier
so i had to re-pentameld
3 pieces
also finally got the diamond helmet
coarse radish
I put off doing kefka for so long that the only people still doing it can't even get past kefaust in a godka enrage party, forget about regular kefaust training parties.
Rip me lol
unreal flax
Kefka's definitely the hard part. People panic on G.Kef and let him intimidate them into stupid mistakes.
fossil basalt
basically if you can get to god kefka, you've already proven that you should be able to beat him
it might just take a while ),:
coarse radish
Ah alright, ive seen faust enrage a few times so its just a matter of getting decent dps in pf
vast echo
so if the weekly lockout will be removed someday, do you also get 1 datalog for every kill?
lyric summit
yes
vast echo
nice ty
scenic patrol
1 datalog and all chests
for every kill
no floor restrictions either
can just chain farm Godka
quick verge
frosty stag
boreal edge
!whois @lyric summit
storm frostBOT
boreal edge
@lyric summit so we did met
in that o8s pf
also guess im just bad mnk
got diamond coffer
got mnk wep
used it instead of i355
still did same dps
ugh
guess i will just focus on same as melee job
lyric summit
ye
boreal edge
1 more kill for 8 pages then get sam katana
spice comet
frosty stag
Page?
spice comet
It's all about mathz
storm frostBOT
heady crest
Hey guys, should i try to get the Tsukuyomi weapon for my DRK, i'm currently using the anemos one from eureka.
sour solstice
yeah probably
scenic patrol
Sure
HoH is also gucci
But Tsuku is great glam
One of my favorite looking DRK weapons
HoH is better than Tsuku
Apparently
blazing pelican
@scenic patrol where'd you get the emote 
unreal flax
What's the NIN one
unreal flax
Great success <3
coarse radish
What about drk
ornate blade
sour solstice
scenic patrol
➕ ☕
crystal mulch
is the only way to get ryumaku solvent (the 360 sigma savage weapon upgrade) just to farm 2k centurio seals? 😦
steep iris
oh
thorn bear
armour and acc upgrade is from chad
crystal mulch
oh on o7s i see , is it a 100% drop ?
steep iris
it should be buyable with gougan coins soon™ if it's the same as deltascape
as long as you have 2 chests
yes
stable basin
Gotta win the roll though
crystal mulch
i'm in a static and i'm the least geared as dps , members let me get polish / solvent
thanks a lot !!
stable basin
oo nice
lyric summit
Armour upgrade is o7s too, o6s is accessory upgrade and weapon token @thorn bear
steep iris
soon
crystal mulch
ye 😃
foggy crescent
Cleared o7s today for the first time. Now to start on Kefka :D
past hamlet
Goodluck dooder
fossil basalt
buckle up kiddo
crystal mulch
gl
steep iris
grats wat!
coarse radish
I pray you have a static
Kefka pugs scare me, even with 2 people who cleared ultimate the party didnt get past 3rd graven more than once because they both went dps
heavy mist
much Succ
sullen sable
big fat gefka heals
huh
i just looked out of curiosity
and my performance% is higher than my historical
_>
i haven't played since week 8
light wagon
I just started progging godka as whm. What do you guys think is the hardest part for healers?
heavy mist
as a non healer id assume any big healing portion
Forsakens/LOJ/the thing that brings u to low hp
unreal flax
Heartless Archangel seems toxic af tbh
scenic patrol
opal hollow
Doesn't f3 and f4 has the same mechanic as f1
scenic patrol
You have no idea Brit
unreal flax
Yeah
scenic patrol
F1 is more heal intensive due to having 2 Heartless casts
thorn bear
mfw we have a whm and monk with no ninja in o8s
you know what i haven't seen in forever actually is a whm stealing aggro in kefaust
that used to be a huge problem when I was in learning parties
was whm almost stealing aggro before first graven
light wagon
How do you guys deal with it? I wiped through forsaken 1 a lot of times. Seems like a lot of Medica spamming?
unreal flax
Medica 2 + Cure 3 should be enough if the other healer hits Lustrate.
unreal flax
Hahaha top up the MNK and sleep
unreal flax
Lmao shut up Johni, I have a Diamond Codex. I'm ovb best SCH
scenic patrol
unreal flax
Honestly, I'm so reactive as a healer that SCH just does not work for me.
Lustrate is my main heal lmao
hybrid rapids
Johni, are you doing AST + SCH for UwU too?
scenic patrol
Yeah...
normal sable
That's some mean old suffering at first forsaken bud
thorn bear
it's some real suffering
I never wanna look at butchers block but gotta do what ya gotta do
hybrid rapids
well, given there is so many AST PoV now
so shouldn't have problem to plan those oGCD heals
vital cypress
last time on star trek the next generation
blow through O5S-O8S in a couple of hours
and now, the conclusion
(the conclusion is getting stuck on O7S for two hours)
rustic lichen
We've had a WHM without a NIN for godka and it hasn't been the worst
But prolly cause our tanks are sucking it up
scenic patrol
I dunno why anyone would play WHM in Godka when SCH is so comfy once things start to come together
vagrant gulch
opal hollow
pepsiman?
steady pebble
a3s
split falcon
watch a vid for a8s
coarse radish
Bepisman
uncut charm
ccw probably meant counter clockwise
lucid karma
JP does North to East / South to West
quick verge
So do you drag the boss towards east for Melee uptime
lucid karma
nah boss just stay near north circle
so melee+tank instantly lock north circle and start moving immediately
just sprint shortly before circles appear
opal hollow
generally people go circle -> 1 GCD -> Circle
it's so fucking annoying when they do like 2+ GCDs
cuz then post-virus you are just sitting ducks there
golden zenith
What fights are worth logging to see what I'm doing wrong?
last galleon
if you just want to check rotational issues, even a dummy parse would do
depends on what you want to get out of it, i guess
grizzled seal
ex primals, o5s-o8s, ucobm uwu
scenic patrol
any fight imo
ornate blade
scenic patrol
but for general rotational shit just log O6S
last galleon
if you want a non-dummy fight that has 100% uptime to see how you execute while mechanics are happening, then godka would be a good one
last galleon
godka is great to parse. no bullshit downtime or add phases.
golden zenith
I saw a website that does an analysis of your logs for you, would it also work for dummy logs?
last galleon
yes
assuming you meant xiva
some jobs are unsupported/only have basic support though
so depending on what job you want to analyze you might not get a comprehensive answer
dull radish
if your job is on there, it's good as an overall, here's some things you might be doing wrong, and can be a cozy self-check using it
but if you want detailed information, it's good to have folks that also play the job, take a look
sour solstice
what job
golden zenith
I want to try black mage and summoner
last galleon
you're in luck then, SMN is the most fleshed out atm
and BLM is actively being worked on
golden zenith
Guidelines should be good enough for a newb
dull radish
BLM stuff is getting better on there, but some things that end up being "issues" are necessary evils and not actually always the wrong thing to do
and I think the always be casting meter might still be slightly off, but at least it should be closer
yeah like, it's just kinda the nature of some stuff, like apoc or addle or surecast or even swiftcast
it'll say, hey you clipped to weave this, but if you hadn't, it wouldn't have been up
golden zenith
This might be the wrong channel to ask, but if i get more spell speed, does that make my GCDs shorter, or does it just let me end my spell casts before my next GCD is up?
last galleon
shorter GCD
dull radish
most technically, spellspeed affects both cast and recast speed
so both your GCD and your cast times are shorter with more spellspeed
it's an important distinction to be made when you have casts that are longer or shorter than GCD
last galleon
ah right BLMs.
golden zenith
Is there any way to make my casts take less time than my GCD?
My enochian always clips thunder3
last galleon
as SMN our recast and GCD are always the same so i don't really think about that factor
dull radish
that enochian clip is a necessary evil
it's far better than any other alternative
as BLM your casts will never be faster than your GCD
only AST has that luxury
golden zenith
:(
dull radish
it's technically not even the most right answer for 6
it's just the one that everyone uses
because the alternative is dumb and memes
but technically better
boreal edge
scathe?
dull radish
precast freeze
boreal edge
topaz wolf
LOL
dull radish
yes
topaz wolf
freeze has a use lmao
dull radish
I don't htink anyone has actually done it
but laqi came up with it
and on paper it's a gain
last galleon
wow
dull radish
but it's just so dumb
golden zenith
I don't have freeze on my hotbar
dull radish
it does
but
you can precast it
so instead of second cast starting after a GCD
it starts on pull
and you can skip that B3
last galleon
it's an area target instead of enemy target iirc
dull radish
yeah
last galleon
so it's just like preplacing shadowflare with SMN
dull radish
it's also uh
technically probably good in 5?
anywhere else would be more memes than I care to tread to even consider
last galleon
here's hoping for more freeze memes in alphascape.
dull radish
it would depend on triple timing and value from it
the main difference here is
you are starting the fight without UI/AF, you can't precast unless you precast freeze (or B2)
for transitions mid fights you have AF/UI
topaz wolf
train transition precast without triple sounds nice
no more long boring b3/f3 can just do normal opener
also kefaust sometimes if you accidentally used triple
thanks for the idea
:3
dull radish
get ready to mistime freeze
flat roost
do warriors have an oGCD swap between their tunk and dps stances?
valid gate
...
dull radish
yeah both defiance and deliverance are oGCD, very cozy stance dancing
opal hollow
Plus side to tank stance not giving mitigation
golden zenith
Does the xiva site only look at your rotations, or will it look at my gear too
dull radish
Only rotation
quick verge
made it past 2nd forsaken
ez clap
so after 2rd Forsaken
you drag Kefka to a cardinal direction for celestriad 2?
dull radish
only cross strat I've seen is for skulls, clones are always put to the south
quick verge
Yeah that's what I've seen
opal hollow
ooo thank god
i'm honestly not keen for relearning godka
but it sounds like the only difference is north trine
quick verge
north trine?
dull radish
yeah, they were asking about a cross strat for kefka clones on forsaken 2
vital cypress
is there an advantage to doing rad skulls mad heads either way?
quick verge
whatever you like better i guess
dull radish
you can just stand there for cross skulls and not have to move at all
and have your skull come to you
but it can be a bit annoying on healers and especially tanks sometimes
since they have to deal with double drill there, too
regal halo
PUGS are unstable all the time
dull radish
going to the same side for skulls is safer, thus often a good pug strat yeah
regal halo
so the above method is by far the most stable strat
dull radish
just means you might have to kite skull slightly
normal sable
Look at all the no uptime on that skull strat
dull radish
but less chance of overlapping explosions
normal sable
My gcds weep
quick verge
for whom
quick verge
sad
heavy mist
yeh dont see the JP pug strat at all anymore
pale plover
normal sable
They are up to date though
storm frostBOT
lyric summit
lyric summit
plus the tooltip thingy for it when searching for it is 520 so it's probably some weird data bug https://xivdb.com/?search=fell+cleav&filters=cGFnZT0xJmxpbWl0PTYwJnN0cmljdD1vZmY=
severe notch
500 in 3.x iirc
lyric summit
but here it's 500 https://xivdb.com/action/3549/fell+cleave
but not on the search page tooltip so who knows
ornate blade
dang that diagram
telling melee to move for their skulls omegalul
just stand max melee 
lyric summit
week1 strats always look bizarre after a month or two
line strat 2nd graven
celestriad with kefka in the middle
severe notch
That's how I did it as first and it was pretty cancer
dull radish
center celestriad <3
lyric summit
I've never seen a diagram or anything for middle celestriad but today in a pug the mt forgot to drag him to the edge and we somehow improvised a center celestriad it with no one dying it was magical
wiped to 3rd forsaken anyways 
ornate blade
line strat 🤢
dull radish
there's two general ways to do center celestriad in a more planned fashion haha. You either have two dps share a corner, and spread a bit after thunder resolves before fire does, since there's a very short time to adjust there before the fire goes off
or you send a dps to stack with the tanks/healers, and you get some healing after the healer/tank stack goes off, before dps fire goes off
lyric summit
yeah there's 4 fires and 4 corners, and a stack, there's not enough space, I don't geddit
dull radish
our group actually did center celestriad haha
quick verge
ok but where's intercardinal celestriad
dull radish
we had the NIN and the BRD share SE corner, and after thunder went off NIN swung a bit south and BRD went a bit to the east
regal halo
Which one is Celestriad again
normal sable
Mana charge on steroids
quick verge
ice fire thunder
true lark
ESPRESSO MUG MENTOR OF THE FFXIV DISCORD
true lark
also im writing a COMFY RAIDERS GUIDE for RAIDING IN FFXIV so please look forward to it
true lark
cuz theres a gw2 guide i read called the HAPPY RAIDERS GUIDE
hybrid rapids
do you plan to do ultimate guides btw?
true lark
no
hybrid rapids
pure yoke
I love kiri safe raiders guide
steep iris
wat is that guide about
pure yoke
how to become safe at raiding
uncut charm
how to become safe at raiding?
- Log out of fflogs
- Close ACT
- Follow the safest JP strat published
- Do not greed
Kappa
true lark
its how to get started with raiding
boreal edge
i miss worst savage guide
true lark
a companion guide to FFXIV RAID TRAINING SERVER COMING SOON :tM;
opal hollow
I swear line Strat is way worse than cross strat for skulls
Ive seen 0dps die with cross strat
boreal edge
@opal hollow cross strat make it easier to melee uptime
glad tapir
i do both and you may right cross makes it easier for dps but kills tanks/heals frequency because dps pull they heads through the centre, you miss only uptime on line strats when both melees get the same side even then its a really short uptime miss
craggy gate
idk about frequently because if you do cross right they don't go directly through the middle
glad tapir
well if you have greedy melees it will for sure kill tanks, they also not in death center
snow girder
RDM Has the lowest personal dps currently right?
glad tapir
i think BRD
at least they are pretty close together to be the lowest
overall seems brd slightly lower
uncut charm
well the thing is these days, the typical raid group have a BRD/MCH + DRG fixed isn't it
hybrid rapids
RDM is lowest
BRD showing as lowest because there're way too many casual players can't play a BRD well
glad tapir
well i could say from RDM arnt it? xD
even you look at 99% logs BRD still has lower overall
but its depends on fight which is lower
hybrid rapids
that's why you don't rely on ffxiv statistic alone
it isn't accurate
for example 99% of 26k uploaded parse of BRD
vs 99% of 13k RDM
the comparison isn't fair at all
unless you can show me a 99% of 26k RDM and BRD
also, it doesn't filter out the catered log as well
uncut charm
I mean if you want to make a fair comparison, certain variables cannot be a variable
assuming the same player who plays both RDM and BRD and he/she have the same skill level and mastery of the job
I don't think the numbers for BRD will be higher than RDM
I think that is the point
glad tapir
it has nothing to do with fair or not fair and its dosent mean that more BRD casual, its also can be just mean that RDM easier to play and easier to do better dps as a avarage skilled RDM then as a avarage skilled BRD, but sure you have BRDs thats raid without DRG which also drag him down so its kind hard to say who is really the lowest but at least they are really close to each other for sure to be the lowest
lyric summit
yeah every static wants a DRG and a BRD, but people rebel whenever I try to lock a melee slot to drg for weeklies in pugs
had a 3% enrage into disband but I'm sure a dying samurai and undergeared monk was the way to go instead of waiting for a drg
never getting my bow 💁
blazing pelican
SAM only gets one possible slot in my pfs and that's the free space
there's too many and most are really bad
glad tapir
well in the group were i raid as BRD we have a SAM and BLM so yeah rip high BRD dps
glad tapir
lol thats what i mean to many ppl think they just play what they like
valid gate
JP strats aren't inherently safer.
It's just what caught on as the general strategy in JP servers.
Their commonly-accepted Second Forsaken method is absolute fucking garbage, for example.
lyric summit
how do you even come up with a different method for 2nd forsaken
other than uptime/no uptime
boreal edge
yes
only good thing this method do
is make past or future end simple
but bad in literally everything else
hoary socket
The JP are stubborn and persistent to a fault. If something works, even if it's more difficult. They will shut up and conform.
opal hollow
At least you won't have 3 people fighting over which out of 5 strategies to use 👀
quick verge
4 which are shit
hoary socket
It's why PF actually works in JP. Because they almost all do the exact same thing.
steep iris
i mean na pf all do the same strat after everything's sorted out
hoary socket
Until they give up after 2 wipes
boreal edge
but its galaxybrain to na/eu
you literally making everything in 2nd forsaken harder to do
hoary socket
JP servers have a pretty established code of conduct for PF. No trap parties there
boreal edge
except past/future end
boreal edge
having godka exactly in mid
even a little angle wont kill ppl
but thats not in na/eu strat
that little angle can kill ppl in na/eu strat
opal hollow
Blame the tank
boreal edge
im just pointing out pros and cons on both strats
idgaf which strat you follow
but both are legit
as long its working
its legit
opal hollow
Just follow a mrhappy guide for the best strats
quick verge
i only watch toxicsys vex
hoary socket
HOWABOUTNO
quick verge
HOW ABOUT YES
quick verge
who're u talking to
hoary socket
idk
frosty stag
quick verge
gotta pull out the timeline for forsaken 3 now...
dull radish
3rd and 4th forsaken are cozy
quick verge
!action holmgang
storm frostBOT
quick verge
so with pld war
war holmgangs 1st embrace
pld hallowed 2nd
war can holm 3rd i will assume
rustic lichen
I think there's another that has to be shared then war can Holm the rest
hoary socket
One of the shared tankbusters can't be cheesed with an invuln. I don't play tank so I'm not sure which one.
spice comet
think they all can, theres a back to back invuln hallow thats hyperdrive and something i forgot
rustic lichen
Yeah, there's a Embrace into a Hyperdrive that can be hallowed the whole way
spice comet
Yea that's it, wings u can invuln u stil need the near far
opal hollow
yeah
spice comet
Its just kinda.....pointless to invuln wings but sure go for it
glad tapir
are the shared tank buster only can be shared by 2 ppl or more? never try it xD
spice comet
war holm and pld hallow wings? Thats kinda funny
glad tapir
just courise what happen when everyone stack
spice comet
Think share is uh....more than 2
It happened before
When the tb came at healer so there was like the group who died, idk if that's wings or share tb tho
opal hollow
i think
glad tapir
well hypercharge will kill for sure, but i am asking me about the shared tankbuster
spice comet
It was a meme for a while where we said everyone should share embrace to lower dmg, I'm gonna guess yes
opal hollow
it's 2 person only
i'm like 60% sure that it randomly picks 2
cuz i've had a dps get killed by it with me taking 0 damage
and the OT getting hit
opal hollow
don't quote me on that
quick verge
why would you invuln wings
craggy gate
learn to CD
spice comet
Actually it's tanks cd
quick verge
oh right tanks don't have shields xd
glad tapir
if you pay me i will give you some heals for wings
spice comet
U dont need a shield on tank for wings, usually an excog just so they dont have an auto poke
glad tapir
wings dosent need any cool down just need to be good ammount on HP
spice comet
Yeah just 40k and some cd :V
glad tapir
i guess all you have to do is slap the healers and tell them to get good
craggy gate
glad tapir
i am mean the heavy healing phase is first forsaken everything after isnt that hard
spice comet
Yeah its rly not bad
glad tapir
when the first trine comes up i am mostly start read my facebook messages while raid
spice comet
Prog just feels bad
unreal flax
Man, can't try to get my weapon until tomorrow.
craggy gate
my tank would get upset I wouldn't go where he called for trine when we were still progging
unreal flax
or really late tonight.
craggy gate
even in pugs
some people get like
legit upset that you don't follow them for trines
spice comet
Near far, oh wait---thats me,lmao rip
spice comet
Tanks be like y r u far and im like idk i wasn't close enough to his butt!
The straight through r so sketch lmao
unreal flax
I once wiped the group in O7S during Demon Simulation. It's the only wipe I caused while being alive. I flipped out of the second ring too soon. Worse, I didn't flip towards the boss lmao.
spice comet
My drg killed our pt jumping through
craggy gate
I learned o7 doing CW instead of CCW
so when I had to leave my static and I was pugging/trying out other groups
I'd run the opposite way
spice comet
👌 👌
unreal flax
Hahaha my group does CW as well. The adjustment was fine for me because I was already pugging the fight at all hours of the day and occasionally, I'd get a group that ran the opposite way.
glad tapir
yeah we have to tell our tank every mechanic if we dont do he will get lost and the worst thing is he just trust blind no matter what you call out
craggy gate
I just make sure to ask now since i'm still trying to find another group
and they're like duh, ccw
well okay mean ass I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE :_:
dull radish
My group tends to always do weird strats for stuff so I'm used to having to adapt for pugs haha
unreal flax
Ahhhh I hate that lmao. "Well, what other way is there to handle this mechanic?" "Well, there's the good way and then there's the pug way." and then you explain 15 different ways to handle the same mechanic.
craggy gate
I can't remember what mechanic exactly in ---
OH I DO
shinryu extreme
3rd akh morn
tell me what you do there
glad tapir
arnt you can skip it?
glad tapir
well i cannot remember i every saw it
craggy gate
well, alright
unreal flax
That's scary. I've uh... I've never seen a third one, so I'd be totally lost. Also, I dont know Shinryu anymore. I got my one clear and never looked at it again
dull radish
that reminds me, it'll be interesting whenever I end up going back to tsuku ex
dull radish
I only ever got the one clear, I was pretty blind to it, but we still cleared real quick
quick verge
or get hit by icicles and die
dull radish
so I don't really know much of the fight
craggy gate
it's the akh morn + ice cicles
you share or invuln, doesn't matter but that's always established
tanks are always up there close to him
unreal flax
The idea that Rika only knows a fight as well as I do is mega 😌
craggy gate
but this particular guy changed that specific one to the middle of the safe area
dull radish
I didn't even watch a video or read any guide haha
I was just randomly asked to help someone get their alt a clear
and I'm like, ok I can probably wing it decently
unreal flax
That first phase is absolutely subarashii.
I was still MNK during ShinEx, so it was so cushy.
craggy gate
it's part of the 3 I think people should do synced the very first time (after it goes to unsync that is)
unreal flax
Which are your three?
craggy gate
Nidhogg EX : It literally moved me with emotion doing it the first time. Sephirot EX because lul and I really enjoyed teaching that fight when it was current (along with niddy) and shinryu because it's epic af
unreal flax
SephEx is my favorite trial, SusEx, and O8S. I really, really love O8S.
craggy gate
I enjoy o8s and o4s
even if o4s was kind of a joke
the transition was amazing, a memey
and memey*
unreal flax
Exdeath is a fuckin unfair trashcan of a fight, but Neo is so fun.
craggy gate
kefka made me weak
cause he's beautiful
susano was cool but I'm glad I got that dog quick and was done with it
unreal flax
Susano is a great fight only because he tells you everything he's about to do and it's adorable in english lol. Farming that fight is almost as bad as PotD lmao
craggy gate
my experience with potd is soloing it barring getting to 100 in HW and maxing aetherpool
snoozefest
but u rite
unreal flax
I use PotD/HoH exclusively to level secondary jobs lol so farm farm farm and hope it goes quick
glad tapir
who else is excited for the 4 ppl EX MHW event next week xD i am really curious, how this will be work
4 ppl for a EX primal fight
🤔
lyric summit
bardam's 2nd boss
sour solstice
I thought the ex was 8 man and it was the norm that was 4 man
glad tapir
is the other way
sour solstice
oh
glad tapir
4 for EX and 8 for normal
sour solstice
god damnit Fateborn
lyric summit
didn't they say it has no role requirements
craggy gate
they're doing 4 in extreme with 3 carts to simulate how mhw is
sour solstice
Im not saying it was a fate
I was blaming this fucker @stable basin
wait nvm
I just read the original message wrong
Nevermind Fateborn im the idiot here
glad tapir
i guess we will get special event skills otherwise i cannot image how a caster or healers will kill it xD
craggy gate
I'm sad about the parts breaking bit
glad tapir
and defense will be scale i guess since MHW only has dps jobs
craggy gate
I get it but
glad tapir
but the good thing noone will blame you for not having aggro as tank xD
craggy gate
when I cleared it my friend had made a PF for people that had duty complete
and I hadn't seen the tail yet
he was talking me through the mechanics and I was screeching the whole time running across that b
stable basin
@sour solstice ?
sour solstice
Nvm I'm a jackass
opal hollow
can't you slidecast it
dull radish
kinda yeah
opal hollow
i personally just AM to the healer that's there
and don't take the black painting :^)^))^)
dull radish
same but BRD haha
it's been a while
if you're doing potato rotato or end up having a slight delay in triple (can happen from that movement from SE corner out of AoE to go to rock, since triple might not be up unless you swift F4 -> triple), it can line up a bit better for it, I've heard
but I usually just AM and kinda slidecast/wing it
the nice thing is that, you have a lot of time that you can move after the last howl, without worrying about missing heals and such, so you can have a bit more time to grab the blue as well, instead of having to rush to grab both last second
just gotta get someone to move over a bit early for you to AM to or something
opal hollow
oh wait
you can take blue paint after siren
that's usually what i do
ahh
yeah tbh it kinda depends
im used to doing it with my static so i take blue paint and skip black paint mechanics LOL
heady crest
Any tips for a Dark Knight doing O6S? I use TBN for every Howl and Kiss and rotate the others cds, but i keeping getting hit very hard.
heavy mist
As an OT, you gonna get hit very hard lol
Just make sure u cycle CDs and plan em out if u aren't already (seems like u are) I don't have any specific drk tips
Awareness can be useful for that offchance of a random crit auto
heavy mist
?
snow girder
awareness is no crits btw
quick verge
l
snow girder
Anticipation is the parry one that is useless
snow girder
Yeah DRK's are gods in O6s 😮
heavy mist
Esp on 60s cd
hoary socket
Don't make me heal pls
heavy mist
It should be the autos
hoary socket
I typically fairy laser the OT during the parts where they are getting smashed. Maybe an excog if they are lacking a CD
quick verge
yeah autos are a given
spice comet
O6s? If tanks can cd, I tbh dont heal
heavy mist
Tbn + a CD is honestly enough for kiss
spice comet
I excog for kiss on ot
hoary socket
hoary socket
If they need it.
quick verge
you should be fine
spice comet
Its not like I'm parsin so I can spare an aether flow
quick verge
implying you don't energy drain 3 times in 10 seconds
eat your fairy
and energy drain another 3 times
heavy mist
6 EDs
spice comet
hoary socket
Always play like you're parsing.
heavy mist
My boy
quick verge
sch is a dps btw
supple sail
hoary socket
Gotta get that 
quick verge
stay in melee range too so you can get the extra damage from autos
spice comet
hoary socket
Booksmacks = 
heavy mist
Sick auto dmg
opal hollow
is there a reason people don't put ilvl requirements in NA?
hoary socket
For what?
dull radish
Gotta have that MNK for DK, for stronger autos