endgame-lounge

[steep iris]

chad op

[scenic patrol]

Chadded aka leave all healing to co healer

[quick verge]

chadding

that's a good tip

[rugged crag]

I wish I can chad

[quick verge]

i know how to get good at the game

chad everything

[steep iris]

and it's not super hard to do 3k on 5s

[quick verge]

chad tank

chad healer

[steep iris]

3k on both healers needs some pretty good optimization though

and speedruns

which idk if i want to bother with

[rugged crag]

I literally can't chad

I see acid rain casting and my instinct shout at me to preheal

[scenic patrol]

Speed kills are around 7K combined

[vital cypress]

gcd chad

[rugged crag]

yea

[scenic patrol]

Optimization should be 8K combined though

If you don't LB cheese

[rugged crag]

speedkills ppl are insane tho

[steep iris]

both healers doing 4k is kinda unrealistic

[scenic patrol]

[vital cypress]

to improve your DPS, stand in AOEs

it both improves your uptime and intimidates the boss

[quick verge]

to improve your dps, have 0 ping

you can pentaweave

[vital cypress]

you can't slidecast then

[steep iris]

7k at speedrun level is more likely

[rugged crag]

if you line up lord/drain with all raidbuffs maybe

[quick verge]

you can see into the future

[steep iris]

asts can't get 4k without pad iirc

[rugged crag]

yea I don't think they can

[steep iris]

that's not 8k though 🤔

[rugged crag]

yea I looked at that

pretty insane

[scenic patrol]

150 missing from 8K

[quick verge]

garbage tbh

[steep iris]

And the next one is 7.4k

[rugged crag]

tfw both healer combined you still won't do as much dps at the MNK on your speedkill team

[grizzled seal]

that's because the healers cater toward the monk and not the other way

[thorn bear]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/qvN69pfFK4A1Btn8#fight=6&type=summary

how do I get 50th percentile

[quick verge]

which are you

[thorn bear]

warrior

[quick verge]

oh idk

[scenic patrol]

He's my scrub alter ego

[thorn bear]

lmfao

[scenic patrol]

[cursive spear]

no entiendo
are high numbers good? idk how fflogs works

[quick verge]

probably greed more

[scenic patrol]

Higher percentile the better

!whologs @scenic patrol

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo of Odin

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train**

Warrior: (896/17923) [4581 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:48]
Scholar: (4531/17427) [2297 DPS] [74 Historical] [7:45]

**Demon Chadarnook**

Warrior: (846/16929) [4952 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:58]
Dark Knight: (4359/9687) [3820 DPS] [84 Historical] [10:09]
Scholar: (7127/16576) [2104 DPS] [57 Historical] [9:01]

**Guardian**

Warrior: (1242/12425) [4449 DPS] [90 Historical] [10:31]
Scholar: (6752/12504) [1983 DPS] [47 Historical] [10:55]

**Kefka**

Warrior: (897/9968) [4264 DPS] [91 Historical] [6:30]

**God Kefka**

Warrior: (203/7530) [4792 DPS] [96 Historical] [10:08]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[cursive spear]

wew feelsbadman

[quick verge]

is that a pro warrior

[steep iris]

higher percentile=better yea

[thorn bear]

46th

[quick verge]

that's kinda absurd tbh

[scenic patrol]

O8S has less bad players clearing

So parses are skewed

[thorn bear]

https://puu.sh/B5kfO/1c5d68a998.png

[quick verge]

parsing kefaust

just skip the last 2 gravens

[thorn bear]

it kinda blew my mind last night when we cleared at a point I consider early

then I'm hearing about "yeah u can kill him at like 3rd graven lmao"

[scenic patrol]

I need orange on Kefaust or Guardian and I have Orange hist

[steep iris]

I need an orange on guardian and god

fuck guardian specifically though

[quick verge]

orange on guardian

chad rng

[scenic patrol]

My last Godka clear is ranked 203

[steep iris]

god is possible but i need more mp and less fuck ups

[scenic patrol]

[steep iris]

emphasis on less fuck ups

[quick verge]

guardian is actually the shittiest fight

[steep iris]

angery

i try to dot all the adds

so uhh

[scenic patrol]

Same

[steep iris]

if it was left alive as long as my dot was going

yes i would

[scenic patrol]

Dot ED dot Ed dot Ed

[quick verge]

biblio first is a good pattern change my mind

[thorn bear]

I feel like I should be saving ogcds for when I get to airforce

when i would go to airforce as dragoon sometimes I'd have no jumps

and take 5 years to kill the add

[quick verge]

get ot to touch your air force

[steep iris]

i have a 92 in guardian rn

so close yet so far

my potential 95 was a 1% wipe

[quick verge]

sad

[ornate blade]

i enraged on my air force add this week as drg

lul

[steep iris]

my kefaust orange is 92% today

[ornate blade]

good thing it doesnt do any damage

[normal sable]

wow

i enraged on train

this is new

[steep iris]

it's still orange on historical

[thorn bear]

I've never let the airforce add kill me

is that what happens?

[steep iris]

but i feel like a phony

[quick verge]

train is o1s lite

[thorn bear]

after the 3rd diffractive it just one shots you?

[ornate blade]

no

it just gets a damage up

and does like almost 40k auto

[thorn bear]

o

[ornate blade]

if you have no cooldowns its not that rare to see it enrage

esp if you dont crit it either lmao

[vital cypress]

why are you rerunning train 👀

[quick verge]

why not

[normal sable]

i want my 95

[vital cypress]

why would you do that to yourself

[normal sable]

train is really fun

i dunno

[vital cypress]

i got a NIN and a BRD, what more do you people want from me

actually i've gotten like four BRDs

[normal sable]

but alas

[quick verge]

get your own ast and drg

[normal sable]

i had 7 greys

and most were single digit greys

So we enraged

[steep iris]

parsing grey is ok as long as people try to improve

[normal sable]

grey on train

[steep iris]

i aint doing jack shit with my pld greys though

[normal sable]

Yea i dunno about that one

[vital cypress]

i'm the greyest

[quick verge]

grey on train is hard respecting content

[steep iris]

i have grey pld on train and chad

heh

[quick verge]

can personally confirm

[vital cypress]

actually i should see my parses on godka

in sequence, earliest to most recent

20, 11, 67?, 9??

[stable basin]

I have grey smn train because I don't play smn and died twice with Bahamut ready lol

[vital cypress]

i'm bad at this game

[quick verge]

yikes

dying with bahmoot is a sad time

[stable basin]

WAR uploaded it because he got 99.9

[vital cypress]

i usually tell people that SMN is one of the easier DPS jobs

but that's the one giant asterisk on it

if you die it really, really sucks

[stable basin]

yeah

[quick verge]

99.9

[ornate blade]

my kefaust

😌

[thorn bear]

i have a ton of grey parses on kefaust too

don't worry

[normal sable]

this 3.8k sam

never used hagakure

i'm actually triggered

[quick verge]

3.8k

[vital cypress]

i just like the 67 stuck in the middle of it

[quick verge]

yikes

[thorn bear]

3.8k is some early deltascape shit

lmfao

[vital cypress]

370 gear but no optimization because the word optimization makes me angry

[quick verge]

3.8k is day 1 4.0

[vital cypress]

i got my diamond grimoire though

[quick verge]

midare setsugekka

[thorn bear]

i'm a huge weeb so I know the important ones

SHINTEN

[thorn bear]

HIGANBANA

[quick verge]

third eye

[steep iris]

i carried a 2k dps sam to god enrage

[thorn bear]

HAGAKURE

[vital cypress]

i think this is accurate

[thorn bear]

done

[quick verge]

shinten something

german naruto opening

[vital cypress]

tag yourself i'm anime climax

[quick verge]

im the chinese characters

wait

lucky charms

LMAO

[normal sable]

i saw some optimization on o7s with nothin personnel and anime opening

from violent destruction

the best DRK in the world

[vital cypress]

i feel like they missed an opportunity to work the Ronald Reagan fanfic in there

reagan sighed as he drew his katana

[ornate blade]

Certain Kill: Skyquake

[quick verge]

stop

[steep iris]

Raffter is the best drk

[ornate blade]

Lunatic Cherry Blossom

[quick verge]

is VD an alpha male

[ornate blade]

if alpha males wipe the run if they die then ya i guess

[quick verge]

that's pretty alpha

ive been tempted to do that

[ornate blade]

its the classic sandbag to save ur parse

[quick verge]

[steep iris]

nice filter

[scenic patrol]

VD is the type of player to care about medians

[quick verge]

medians?

sec

[ornate blade]

god bless kefaust

[quick verge]

kefaust is big brain

[ornate blade]

extremely

[quick verge]

60 seconds downtime btw

i hate those parts

graven 1

see how many people can eat 2 beams

and the stack marker

graven 3

how many people can fail to sit on a marker

graven 5

looking at a statue is hard

[steep iris]

idc about medians as long as they aren't grey/green or severely under your top parses 👀

[ornate blade]

my kefaust

[steep iris]

kefaust is an exception

as wat

pro

does it line up well?

[ornate blade]

my first was 9th percentile

😌

[quick verge]

does mch get memed on in kefaust

[vital cypress]

i keep habitually doing the rush opener

[steep iris]

oo

I do slow opener by habit now

[vital cypress]

in kefaust

[steep iris]

👀

[vital cypress]

is slow bahamut the meta now

[normal sable]

medians matter

[vital cypress]

hmm

i've been summoning him immediately after first graven

do people break him out before it?

[scenic patrol]

Should delay it by 3 GCDs after G1

[vital cypress]

that's what i figured

[scenic patrol]

Since that is when raid buffs should be

[vital cypress]

well, not immediately after

throw DoTs up then summon i guess

[scenic patrol]

Yeah that sounds good

How many Bahas can you get for Kekfaust?

[vital cypress]

i'm still not sure why my static can comfortably clear Godka

but every single Kefaust is down to the fucking wire

[scenic patrol]

Godka is an easy fight once you have it mapped

[quick verge]

kefaust is hard

[scenic patrol]

There's no randomness

Except trines

[normal sable]

kefaust is the most suffering

I have ever witnessed

[vital cypress]

he usually hits 59% during the second or third ultima cast

i don't know if we've ever cleared it before the ultima spam

[normal sable]

i think once or twice

[scenic patrol]

Aye

Dps check is more strict

[normal sable]

this week's was the fastest we've had

[vital cypress]

ah

[scenic patrol]

31K raid DPS

[normal sable]

and it was with 2 deaths

[scenic patrol]

And Godka is 33K

[vital cypress]

yeah we're usually clearing godka with ~45-50 seconds to spare

[scenic patrol]

But Godka has no downtime except tethers

[normal sable]

i blame it on invuln

[vital cypress]

i'm terrible at routing around the invulns

[normal sable]

the samurai dot is actually most of my damage

and it gets completely dicked on

by gravens

[scenic patrol]

Just don't refresh it

[normal sable]

well heres the thing

[scenic patrol]

1 dot per Graven?

[normal sable]

it's actually a net gain to reapply before each graven

except sleep/confuse graven

[scenic patrol]

Really?

[normal sable]

so i go from getting ready to reapply at 15 seconds and applying it at 0

to remappingt he whole fucking thing

yea

since higan is a neta gain at 45 seconds ticked

[scenic patrol]

Interesting

[normal sable]

and all the gravens except sleep are shorter

or right around 15

[scenic patrol]

Call it Banana

[normal sable]

I AM NOT CALLING IT BANANA

[vital cypress]

hey use this, stupid

is the correct name

[quick verge]

higanbanana

[vital cypress]

or wait

[normal sable]

tsukuyomi actually says higanbana

[vital cypress]

you're talking about "don't fuck with me i have the power of god and anime"

[normal sable]

and mangetsu in JP lines

no u had it right

[quick verge]

tsukuyomi is also dead so

[normal sable]

its use this stupid

higanbana is actually a legit broken skill

[vital cypress]

summoner buttons: shit that makes it impossible for your melees to see

more shit that makes it impossible for your melees to see

shit that makes it impossible for anyone to see

[scenic patrol]

Just turn down party effects

[quick verge]

ruin 2 > ruin 3

[vital cypress]

never

[normal sable]

i have all my shit turned down

because of baha

thanks

[vital cypress]

except on tsukuyomi ex

[scenic patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2PUsz2zds

[vital cypress]

veni

[scenic patrol]

That video is still so funny to look at

[quick verge]

could they akh morn both sets of adds

[normal sable]

i didn't realize until like last week

that you can even change baha size

you dont know how much suffering i had gone through

[vital cypress]

4.0 SMN was the most half-baked thing they've done

bahamut being the size of most boss arenas alone is proof of that

/bahamutsize small

4.0 SMN was basically a long list of problems

[quick verge]

remember when summoner was poop

[normal sable]

remember when samurai was good

[quick verge]

no

[normal sable]

i didnt play until late 4.2

so i never did

[scenic patrol]

Samurai was never good though

[quick verge]

they should make sam dot 2 minutes

and like

have their slashing debuff stack

[normal sable]

they were decent enough early in sb

[vital cypress]

SMN was wonky as shit because you had to monitor your MP like a hawk

[normal sable]

i dont think SAM even have MP skills

[vital cypress]

in the strictest technical sense it did more damage at release than it does now?

i think?

[normal sable]

whats mana

[quick verge]

aetherflucked

[vital cypress]

oh yeah

[normal sable]

the sam privilege is immense

[vital cypress]

and aetherpact/devotion was dumb and bad

RDM kinda has to watch it, at least if you're throwing out the occasional raise?

BLM's built around it of course but it also doesn't handle MP like the other jobs

[dull radish]

there's a few nuances to it yeah, some that are a good bit more niche than others

[thorn bear]

I gots a question

about dragoon

shoudl you be double weaving Geriskogul

and Nastrond?

cause when I do I feel like I'm delaying my gcd

[dull radish]

for first graven?

yeah you don't use it before he goes for that

there's not really a good opportunity to, anyways

it's good for recovery after the transition though

ok so as an alternative, consider this

[ornate blade]

you should be able to double weave it without clipping your gcd

gsk and nastrond

[dull radish]

be in UI, triple T3 Foul F3

[ornate blade]

my alt has 2.3 something gcd and she can still double weave them

[dull radish]

or if you don't have UH yet, B4 in place of the Foul, and you can Foul in trick if you have NIN

that is correct

but consider this

between the two of us, for what we did

I'm an entire GCD ahead of where you are

any slight savings you get shaved off from tripling the F4, don't make up for a full GCD

swift B3 after transition is cozy but it's often the wrong answer

oh, it's no worries whatsoever

[stable basin]

Do tank/heal with abandonment usually make an X with tethers and just expect DPS to pass virus before knockback

[thorn bear]

you have to pass it either way pretty sure

[stable basin]

This is my first forway into weekly 2chests after clearing with a semi-static that passed after

Which needs the tethers to not cross

Wondering if the tether crossing is intentional or they're just not paying attention

[dull radish]

you uh

normally don't cross tethers

[stable basin]

That's what I thought

[dull radish]

often times you'll do a pass before knockback

but the tethers will be parallel

there's time to do the pass before and get them properly lined up

or yeah, you can pass after, it just gives more leeway if you do a pass before

[stable basin]

mm

[normal sable]

I've always done

Pass right before knockback

So the other melee has plenty of time to pass it on after

[dull radish]

yeah, it's generally just the safest way to do it

[stable basin]

Woops I thought no stack on byakko was engrish for no dupes xd

How's that work

Tanks just invuln?

[vital cypress]

also

why is exdeath still harder than kefka

[lucid karma]

oof ow got a static for 4.4 as PLD

hope gameplay doesn't change (much) by then

dislike having to relearn everything again

[vital cypress]

good job

[lucid karma]

currently pug life until 4.36

O5S pug always been cursed

[heavy mist]

should be similar

i doubt they will make big changes

[lucid karma]

I hope so

took me weeks to "get" new WAR

[heavy mist]

😦

[lucid karma]

like oh, I know what to do

but can I do it?

[heavy mist]

yeah for sure

[lucid karma]

that took me weeks to be "can"

rather than "know"

[stable basin]

when you're managing aggro as mt

how do you do it?

shirk -> voke?

or is it not needed?

[lucid karma]

hmm talk to your OT for circle shirk

OT voke > MT shirk > MT voke > OT shirk

[stable basin]

[lucid karma]

but not really needed

[stable basin]

so this brd is just being bad?

[lucid karma]

BRD can just use tactician on cooldown

nothing being loss

and halves aggro

[stable basin]

yeah tp is barely much of a loss in any content

then there's the fact pld didn't know how to do cover thing

[lucid karma]

for what?

[stable basin]

PT

o5s

[lucid karma]

nah I mean mechanic

oh

[stable basin]

PT is Phantom Train

🗞

[lucid karma]

well from what I understand is, no pug is the same

[stable basin]

that's certainly true

[lucid karma]

there's MT who never trust PLD

[stable basin]

but still

[lucid karma]

and there's too much

[stable basin]

i asked him to use cover

and he's like yeah

so I EXPECTED him to understand tempered will too

but no

lol

[lucid karma]

for now I just cover+anti kb regardless of ghost box

[stable basin]

communication is key

first ghost box is always nice

er

box at front i means

saves holmgang and tw for head on

poor drk tho

[lucid karma]

nah I mean PLD doesn't really lose anything except some gcd if no front box in case of head on

especially in pug case

[stable basin]

meh

[lucid karma]

where everything is fucking wild

[stable basin]

i wish i met that static that got me through o5 and o6 farm firts try

then again, i'd never see them again anyway

ohwell

[lucid karma]

can't wait for savage unlock

ppl are so hesitate for 0 chest

I can't practice for shit

[stable basin]

this run was 3/8 cleared

for all of those 'fails' they weren't worth it

6 pulls.

6 freaking pulls

we had it on 2nd pul

[lucid karma]

oh at least it wasn't my helping a friend clear tsuku ex

[stable basin]

then he decided to make a very gay rng

[lucid karma]

8 fucking pulls

[stable basin]

you wanna know why it was gay?

GHOST WALL

DURING THE STACKS

GHOST WALL

5 GHOSTS

ON SAME SIDE

[lucid karma]

oh wtf

RIP

[stable basin]

srsly

worst part?

i got caught in it

[lucid karma]

that's the most ridiculous RNG ever

[stable basin]

instead of one of them

lost that mt aggro

and the pld didn't pick it up

and when he did pick it up

he exploded

not even sure what he's doing tbfh

[lucid karma]

the worst I've seen was 4 ghosts

but 5 just take the cake

[stable basin]

i almost got out too

but it clipped

with my hitbox

[lucid karma]

alas I was in static and everyone died laughing

because it was so ridiculous

imagine lala MT

running all the way back

to make U turn

[stable basin]

that was me

but as au ra

<_>

literally clipped

CLIPPPPPPP

[lucid karma]

tail clipped

time to be lala

smaller

[stable basin]

nah

my foot

left foot

[boreal edge]

@stable basin max is 4 ghost in same side

[stable basin]

bullshit i saw 5

[frosty stag]

I'm scared

[stable basin]

idk why ink=chakra is scary

clear for 1 sure is though

[lucid karma]

Those mechs are ez

Real deal is to trust others to not fuck missile up

[boreal edge]

ink=chakra?

why ppl need to stick on 1 damn spot to do it right?

[final cape]

I did it

I dunno how long its taken

but I finally cleared o5s

[lucid karma]

Nice grats

[frosty stag]

ikr

not to mention that mech is so confusing

when the tank just up north

[stable basin]

@final cape Congrats! :D Any good lewt?

[final cape]

Not except for a single book :[

[stable basin]

:( Sucks ;;

[final cape]

But hey, at least now I can move on to the next challenge if nothing else

[pure yoke]

Ink=Chakra is fine for consistency sake

You want to minimize variables of people wiping to shit

Its the same way with box position = sleep/confuse tethers

[waxen wagon]

when passing last kiss on chardnook, do you just stank on the tank?

stand*

[spice comet]

U touch the tank till it passes then gtfo, usually its like a few sec at worst

[waxen wagon]

how can you tell when it passes?

[dull radish]

animation and debuff in party list

[spice comet]

Most of the time i see dps stack tank real quick, do a gcd,run

It's a buff

[waxen wagon]

alright, thanks.

[dull radish]

nice thing is too, after you pass it, you get a buff which makes it so you can't take it back by accident

so you can just kinda stay there until you're sure it's been passed, then move out of the way

[waxen wagon]

thanks all! i just cleared sigmascape v2 savage for the first time! i was holding everyone back 'cause i kept running back before the buff passed onto the tank.

[dull radish]

well, glad you were able to resolve it and get that clear, congrats <3

onto guardian~

did you get any loot?

[waxen wagon]

nope, there were people in the party that cleared it already, so no boxes dropped.

[dull radish]

ah, well you still get the page and the clear, which especially this late into the tier, can be a bit annoying to get

[severe notch]

Grats

[spice comet]

👌

[thorn bear]

ink=chakra is better than pf dumbasses arguing over positions then rage quitting

[scenic patrol]

I prefer the EU method

Macro

[sour solstice]

that would involve NA saying EU does something right

[scenic patrol]

EU and JP both use the macro

Only NA doesn't

[sour solstice]

classic american exceptionalism

[spice comet]

Na drops markers, ppl step on their spots

Then proceed to forget and yolo

[heavy mist]

When NA uses macro. people be like : WHERE MY MARKERS

[scenic patrol]

what markers do you need for O7S

like the only markers you need are Pads and north and south positions for Aban

[spice comet]

U set down markers to use for ink/chak

[thorn bear]

every o7s party I've been in

has positions for abandonment

[spice comet]

With unmark being n/s/w/e

[thorn bear]

and biblio

lol

[spice comet]

Rot is yolo

[thorn bear]

I guess that's just NA

[heavy mist]

I mean I haven't wiped in there for many many many weeks

So idm if it helps others

[spice comet]

We do use markers for pad/aban

[heavy mist]

Same

[spice comet]

Just in the beginning ppl do the weird square for ink/chak

Its prob NA, macros r rare

[heavy mist]

Yeh

[spice comet]

Clown is same too

[heavy mist]

I've seen it a couple times for o3s

But that's it

I really mean o3s

[spice comet]

For gravitas/stack

Four markers, go to spot, na strats

[thorn bear]

the only macros I see are the passive agressive macros

[spice comet]

Trolly ones r typical

[quick verge]

chakra = ink

[normal sable]

big brain

just stack and tank lb

[quick verge]

bigger brain

skip ultros

in 4.4

[quick verge]

primal is wild today

[stable basin]

lol

[quick verge]

would they just cheese it with high dps

[dull radish]

They tried to talk me into joining haha

But I'm stuck at work

Would be such a good time

[sour solstice]

who needs lb

when you have dps

[quick verge]

high octane 7k dps

[sour solstice]

if both the tanks do 4k and the healers do a combined 7

and all the blms do 7

you're looking at like

43k party dps

powerful

[grizzled seal]

should've sneaked one smn in for garuda

[dull radish]

they'd probably run ifrit 100% anyways, not even pet swap opener, because that's what PF SMN do

[grizzled seal]

NotLikeThis

[quick verge]

swapping pets requires casting and stuff

[blissful solstice]

Hey I'm in PF sometimes and I do pet swap

;_;

[dull radish]

yeah I see that like once in a long while, but it's always a treat

I think I've only ever seen a SMN actually use garuda full time with me in the party with them on BLM though, one time

even on meme 3-4 caster runs of stuff, always ifrit haha

[last galleon]

I stick to ifrit out of spite if the other casters are grey even if it means radiant shield does fuck all

Which means I’ve used Garuda in a caster party exactly once

[dull radish]

I can appreciate that a bit

but I'd hope that I'm generally qualified enough to get contagion on occasion, at least as a pet swap opener haha

[opal hollow]

you may not like it but this is what peak DPS composition looks like

[quick verge]

alpha as fuck

[vital cypress]

I’ll use garuda but I’m too lazy to actually manage contagion 💤

[dull radish]

you can sicruda even

probably have better contagion timings than trying to manually do it

[topaz wolf]

sicruda

is much better than sicfrit

with a blm in the party

thats decent

[quick verge]

sicfrit

sicruda

titan

[dull radish]

galaxy brain titan during downtime to fish for R4 procs

[opal hollow]

time to try

[vital cypress]

I don’t get it

[lyric summit]

no-target pet skill with a 15s cooldown

like flaming crush prepull for that 15% of r4

[vital cypress]

[opal hollow]

Now thats some minmaxing

[opal hollow]

is there like a priority order for drg tether

assuming equal skill

[fossil basalt]

it's a straight damage buff

so assuming equal skill, you'd give it to the Job with the highest damage potential

[scenic patrol]

Goes to highest burst at that moment

[opal hollow]

i feel like mnk/war are up there

i know mnk shits on my war damage

[scenic patrol]

So BRD >NIN>WAR iirc

[opal hollow]

wtf

jesus

[fossil basalt]

brd?

[dull radish]

yeah

[opal hollow]

yeah i've heard bard

but never seen it

LOL

[dull radish]

they can have very bursty opener

[scenic patrol]

BRD gets opener

[dull radish]

if they have decent luck, they're the best choice

[scenic patrol]

Aside from that it's like 5th tether

[fossil basalt]

ok, you needed to specify that we were talking openers

[scenic patrol]

3rd is WAR iirc

At specific moments you tether different people

It all depends on burst

[frosty stag]

lol armorer

[dull radish]

this is a neat tool as well, it's not perfect, but can give general idea https://tethercalc.herokuapp.com/

[opal hollow]

ah the 4th IR

[heavy mist]

Also depends on mechanics

👀

[fossil basalt]

yeah, sometimes the person you'd normally thether can't stay next to you

gotta be ready to adapt

[snow girder]

What's a trap party btw?

[fossil basalt]

a bad party

[dull radish]

one that isn't quite what it appears on the surface

and you never really know what you're getting into until you join

[scenic patrol]

It's like anime traps

But PF

[fossil basalt]

specifically one that wastes your timeand/or is deceptive about their capabilities

[snow girder]

Oh i would see people say it in PF so i was confused 😮

[dull radish]

yeah it's just become a common term for those sort of parties

[snow girder]

page only trap party.

So i was confused

[dull radish]

"clear for a friend" but the friend is them and they have zero idea what they're doing for the fight

[snow girder]

Why are they calling themselves a trap party then

[fossil basalt]

self-deprecating humor

[dull radish]

sometimes it's just also kinda for memes, like

[fossil basalt]

or just honesty

[dull radish]

people on alt jobs or weird comps or dumb strats or just whatever

where they're not actually expecting anything to get done, usually

just to mess around a bit and have a good time

[fossil basalt]

having fun? in a video game? haw dare they?!!

[scenic patrol]

Some people genuinely like raiding

[frosty stag]

[stable basin]

tmw we can't even come close to o6s clear cuz either 2 or 3 aren't rotating right, or they just sucks

the closest was 5% enrage

and that was with a drg dead

so it wasn't death

[scenic patrol]

Enrage on O6S

[stable basin]

_>

[fossil basalt]

was

[scenic patrol]

[stable basin]

ikr johni

[fossil basalt]

my static cleared that in two lockouts

[stable basin]

how can the dps be this low despite having only one death is... zzz

[fossil basalt]

and we're trash

[stable basin]

pretty clear rotations aren't right

i means i miss fof a couple times, but that's pretty negligible considering it's only a tiny margin boost to dmg, wouldn't made a difference in that run

[boreal edge]

what i missed?

[stable basin]

nothing

[quick verge]

what is o6s enrage

is it super howl

[boreal edge]

long aoe cast

[fossil basalt]

yeah, long cast howl thingy

[quick verge]

tbh i've only seen o6s enrage once

when 99% of runs end in wipes because someone fucked up

[boreal edge]

i didnt see o6s enrage even in our 1st kill

on i340

[fossil basalt]

same

[boreal edge]

but i seen it

in my alt static

on i355

[fossil basalt]

either we'd wipe to something else or we'd just clear it

[spice comet]

O6s enrage long demonic howl

[boreal edge]

we seen o5s enrage few times

[quick verge]

o5s enrage

5 people in trains

[boreal edge]

but it was in runs with double digit deaths

[spice comet]

O5s enrage was all we saw in 340

[quick verge]

1 dead

[spice comet]

O6s somehow was a lot easier

[boreal edge]

o7s i seen it fkn lot

tbh

[spice comet]

O7s enrage I think was less than o5s but prog took longer

[fossil basalt]

o6s is a mobile striking dummy

[spice comet]

So it even out

[stable basin]

If people didn't chow down on missiles during last ultros I would have gotten my first o7 clear without seeing enrage :c

[boreal edge]

like we had 4 enrage wipes at 1%

[heavy mist]

O7s saw it less cause 1 death and then most people would just wipe it

[stable basin]

The legendary 4 caster party

[heavy mist]

Yay pugs

[stable basin]

Oh wait 3 casters and mch

[boreal edge]

there is always that guy

who messes up

[quick verge]

missiles

[boreal edge]

chakra + bait + missiles

[spice comet]

Pugging o7s

[stable basin]

Ultros came out with guardian at 4% and then 3 people exploded lol

[quick verge]

o7s pugs are actually ascended

[spice comet]

think o7s pugs couldn't clear

They ate missles for days

[quick verge]

one run you wipe to first mechanic

[stable basin]

the enrage is just demonic howl but longer cast

[quick verge]

next run you clear

[fossil basalt]

better than clown pugs

[boreal edge]

kefaust was literally impossible to us

[spice comet]

Wow i haven't gone back to o7s pugs lately

[boreal edge]

til like 4th week

[spice comet]

Sounds memefest

[fossil basalt]

"know the fight" ... leader gets knoed off by first graven

[stable basin]

lol

good meme you say

[frosty stag]

[boreal edge]

wait

3rd week

[spice comet]

[boreal edge]

the moment we got 3 i360 weps

kefaust became possible

[stable basin]

shits like these pugs make me hate being deaf

and statics in general

[frosty stag]

[heavy mist]

For weeklies

I actually haven't wiped in o7s for a long freaking time

[frosty stag]

I'm i365 alr and still stuck at o7s

[stable basin]

git gud

[frosty stag]

pug prog

[heavy mist]

I cleared it at like i347 ish with pugs

💦

[frosty stag]

can't get pass ink

[stable basin]

@heavy mist yougot carried

[quick verge]

agree

[frosty stag]

furthest I've been in was the hand thingie on my head

when I just join a static that need sub

[quick verge]

uh oh lads

no nin with whm in o8s

im tilted already

[stable basin]

7 players in kefka?

[quick verge]

waiting

[stable basin]

oh

[grizzled seal]

sort your party list

[stable basin]

it auto sort in instance

he's fine

[quick verge]

sort your life

dab

[grizzled seal]

it's unnerving

also just spam more halone for aggro

4Head

[quick verge]

pld mt

im deleting you

[grizzled seal]

expecting war to pull in a pug

🤔

[heavy mist]

Expecting the tank to pull

[boreal edge]

@grizzled seal has o5s pug

they asked me to pull as pld

[grizzled seal]

😌

[heavy mist]

Bless game

[boreal edge]

i left asap

[frosty stag]

I feel you

I got asked once like that

and then I can't get out of shield oath

[boreal edge]

i cant take stupidity at times

but high level stupidity

nope

[frosty stag]

their aggro is like at my butt

when I switch to sword oath

was helping them clear so I can't leave

[heavy mist]

Just leave

[frosty stag]

it was after some wipes and just out of nowhere

they told me pull so War can do more DPS to meet enrage

[boreal edge]

[heavy mist]

Yes clearly that's the problem

[frosty stag]

so I just spam RoH in shield oath and be lazy

[heavy mist]

If they ask why u do low dps

Then say reported

[frosty stag]

now that I need to make a parse on my PLD again with my new gears

hopefully I can do 3.2k something

[boreal edge]

my life as ps4

when i do good

i dont get parsed

[heavy mist]

I did have a run where the pld wanted to pull because I couldnt handle the aggro as a war

[boreal edge]

when i do shit

i get parsed

[heavy mist]

I was like

[boreal edge]

[frosty stag]

I don't parse myself tho

potato laptop will just make my frame worse

[heavy mist]

Rip

[frosty stag]

all of my PLD parses are grey

[boreal edge]

and no one of my parse friends willing to accompany me

cause i join trap pfs

[frosty stag]

I don't have friend either

solo pug life

[heavy mist]

That's been my life

[frosty stag]

my best parse on PLD was like in June with like 2.6k DPS

[heavy mist]

Feelsbad

[frosty stag]

none of my recent one is posted when I feel like I did way better than before

[viscid lion]

Where's a man suppose to get his accessories

I need accessories for savage n junk

[lyric summit]

tomestone exchange, or marketboard for tanks if you have the money to get the pentamelded bis(?) ones or whatever

[viscid lion]

Damn so mendacity farming

[thorn bear]

marketboard plus creation will get you 360 acc

if you grind creation tomestones for Thavnarian Rain you can get 360 augmented crafted

[lyric summit]

you can't really farm mendacity with this weekly cap but yeah mendacity's the way to best gear without savage

[thorn bear]

or if u wanna die

you can farm o6n

for sigmascape bolts

[viscid lion]

That's another thing what is o6n

Omega right?

[lyric summit]

o6 normal

[thorn bear]

sigmascape

version 2.0

normal

[lyric summit]

why are you preparing for savage if you don't know what omega is

[thorn bear]

if you grind that out you can get sigmascape bolts which give ilvl 350 acc

[viscid lion]

Casual player trying to get into endgame

And raiding

I just unlocked deltascape

[thorn bear]

you got a bit to go still

[lyric summit]

do omega story mode, get augumented mendacity + pagos weapon next week, find a casual static for 4.4

new tier is always the best time to get into savage

[viscid lion]

Alright

[thorn bear]

just try and gear up anyway u can right now tbh

finish the omega story mode

grind mendacity

get your ilvl up

once you get to like 345/350 or so and you aren't running a lost allagan weapon you can try sigmascape v.1 savage if u want

in party finder

but that'll be a while if you just got to omega normal

[viscid lion]

Roger that

Thx

[unreal flax]

Question for all the one ninjas in here: prepull, who to Smokescreen? I usually smoke the BRD/MCH since they can't prevent aggro, only chop it in half later. Is there someone who would benefit more from Smoke at the start of the fight than them?

[thorn bear]

people smoke screen pre pull?

[unreal flax]

It's useful if the WAR has the guts to Deliverance pull.

[thorn bear]

that war has a mental illness then

[sour solstice]

oh boy I get to ir one gcd earlier

[unreal flax]

lol

[thorn bear]

you gotta apply storm's eye no matter what don't you?

lol

[sour solstice]

at the cost of struggling for aggro for the rest of the fight

yeah

[thorn bear]

just unchained

tomahawk HS Maim Storm's eye

Deliverance IR

boom

[sour solstice]

yeah

equi while still in defiance

powerful aggro

[unreal flax]

Wow. I had no idea y'all stayed in Defiance that long lol

[thorn bear]

this isn't patch 4.0 warrior

[sour solstice]

you dont

[thorn bear]

where u lost 20 meter for using unchained

[sour solstice]

its about what you're comfortable with

[opal hollow]

Still not certain if Thrill increases aggro👀

[unreal flax]

I Unchained Tomahawk Equilibrium Deliverance HS

[sour solstice]

if you got a whm and no NIN?

[opal hollow]

I dont trust pugs so i also do 1 emnity combo

[sour solstice]

you better use that deliverance a little late

[opal hollow]

jesus are pugs that bad in your server?

i've never lost enmity outside of godka

[sour solstice]

Powerful whymages

[opal hollow]

Tbh i havent tried much

I just automatically mistrust pugs

[unreal flax]

Same.

[opal hollow]

Better be safe and kill the boss

[sour solstice]

but like

[opal hollow]

What

2 seconds later?

[sour solstice]

People do deliverance pulls?

Thats a new one on me

[unreal flax]

I've seen it a couple of times.

[opal hollow]

why tho

[unreal flax]

I saw it in a 24-man lol.

[opal hollow]

das a dps loss

[sour solstice]

24 man deliverance pull

[stable basin]

lol

[opal hollow]

24 man

I especially gain a significant aggro lead on 24mans 👀

Cuz i can't see the aggro of 2/3 the people

[sour solstice]

use first IR while still in defiance for maximum aggro

[opal hollow]

If only inner beast had bonus emnity

[sour solstice]

Defiance does

[unreal flax]

I thought it does.

[sour solstice]

👀

[unreal flax]

Yeah

[sour solstice]

!action inner beast

[storm frost]

**Inner Beast** : lvl 35 Warrior (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 350.
Ignores the damage penalty inflicted by Defiance.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Defiance.
Additional Effect: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP
Additional Effect: Reduces damage taken by 20%
Duration: 6s
Beast Gauge Cost: 50 ※Action changes to Fell Cleave while under the effect of Deliverance.

[sour solstice]

IB is still more enmity than FC IIRC

even without its own multiplier

[opal hollow]

But is it more than steel cyclone? 😏

[sour solstice]

I...

I actually dont know

[opal hollow]

Reddit thread says cyclone has a 3x multiplier

So i thinj that ones more

!action steel cyclone

[storm frost]

**Steel Cyclone** : lvl 45 Warrior (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 200 to all nearby enemies.
Ignores the damage penalty inflicted by Defiance.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Defiance.
Additional Effect: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP
Additional Effect: Increased enmity
Beast Gauge Cost: 50 ※Action changes to Decimate while under the effect of Deliverance.

[opal hollow]

Yea 600pot aggro

Almost twice as much

[sour solstice]

[thorn bear]

I saw deliverance openers in the balance

but that was old warrior

[sour solstice]

use your first IR on steel cyclone

For M A X I M U M A G G R O

[opal hollow]

Overpower has a 10x multi p lier tho

!action overpower

[storm frost]

**Overpower** : lvl 10 Marauder (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to all enemies in a cone before you.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity

[opal hollow]

1200

IR overpower new emnity meta

or just use the aggro combo

IR aggro combo

[thorn bear]

or uhhhhhhhhh

use diversion

😂

[opal hollow]

start halfway through your BB combo

so you basically get 2 full BB combos

throw equi in

👌

wait does equi crit under IR

Equi doesnt anymore

fk reeeeeeee

It used to in 4.0

It was glorious

damn

would be nice to just facepull

and use equi in IR

Guaranteed direct crit heal

are direct crit heals a thing anymore?

Idk tbh 👀

[sour solstice]

@thorn bear I cant press their diversion button for them

you cant DH a heal

[opal hollow]

Darn

lame

There goes my ultimate critlo

[quick verge]

Critlo (Ultimate)

the only way to survive is to get a spread dcritlo