materia hates me
#endgame-lounge
opal hollow
arctic field
Haven't failed yet!
opal hollow
i haven't gotten one back in ages
arctic field
Watch, I say this now and once the next tier drops, I'm going to be desperately hunting cause I failed them all 
opal hollow
LOOOOL
elder lark
ugh I now feel compelled to do my whole Eureka challenge log
and it's giving me such a headache x_x
barren grove
idk whether i want the pagos weapons to look good
agile flax
Wait there is a challenge log with Eureka? Sorry I'm way behind
agile flax
Does it need to be done to run extra content?
hybrid rapids
it's standard challenge log
hybrid rapids
just meet the requirement
and free exp
right :P
pretty decent exp i would say
elder lark
well I failed at that because I bought a house, an apartment, and a room in my FC house instead of saving lmao
arctic field
But do you use the house to grow plants worth gil and shards in the rooms?
true lark
you need to save gil to the point that buying stuff from you on the mb is a gil sink
elder lark
nah I got decorative plants and krakka root for my chocobo ๐
arctic field
hybrid rapids
i don't think any extreme has rotation/timeline
he make for Savage and Ucob only it seems
opal hollow
nah just means i have to do it myself to see how CDs line up
arctic field
I thought she has a rotation?
opal hollow
oh yeah how do you
stop yourself from getting stunned by phase change into adds
i remember reading it on reddit but forgot how to do it
let'
let's SAM and blm etc. meditate or keep enoichan up
arctic field
HG, maybe?
But Cover works for anyone else
If you're in a learning party though, @opal hollow...or PUG's in general. I recommend Covering a healer during the second lunacy
Cause chances are someone's going to choke and then wipe the party
dull radish
covering a good BLM for that first transition is very cozy <3
opal hollow
yeah i can imagine
just being able to go straight into B4 instead of having to cast another ice spell
would be so nice
arctic field
Using Passage during the first lunacy is also nice but people tend to run away for some reason
And then wipe the party
dull radish
it's not about casting B4 or anything
it's about the stun being longer than AF/UI
so it's impossible to keep stacks through it, for the first one
unless you get cover
if you get cover, you can keep your foul timer going the whole time, and don't have to worry about setup for AoE, you're pretty much there already
very big increase
arctic field
But does the BLM deserve it more than the SAM...?
dull radish
yes <3
and not just in a biased way
unless the SAM is better skilled or whatever haha
glossy musk
I mean
bringing SAM is already a problem
so at that point you might as well just do whatever
ornate blade
blm starts beating out sam at 95th percentile
assuming equal skill
and even then they;re basically the same
dull radish
well this was more specifically in the case of tsuku ex, in covering for the first transition pre-adds
dull radish
well downtime itself isn't too too bad, downtime without being able to use any actions is what's dumb haha
meager walrus
I am 100% certain that spending datalogs will ensure that the item drops next week.
How can I ever spend these
pure yoke
paper torrent
you trade the logs to the garland works npc in rhalgars reach if you're asking how to turn them in
glad tapir
how i can beat the event extreme rathalos as a healer when everyone has a debuff which blocks cast heals? i feel so useless right now as healer ๐ซ
glad tapir
spring dock
not sure if this is ironic
copper portal
For CUL, what are the easiest leves to do during 52-60?
elder lark
I was so close to surviving all of Lighthouse for the first time and died at 12% on Yiazmat because of magnets+dust storm+rake ๐
sigh
maybe next week
opal hollow
welp
was a real shitty ass day yesterday
for loot rolls
go into o8s today
i dropped blm weapon + coffer + caster chest
feelsgoodman
glad tapir
@copper portal depends i think Baked Onion Soup is that what i did, you can buy all stuff from NPC to craft it
spice comet
Ishgardian muffins
solemn pagoda
Muffins are godlike
glad tapir
its lvl 53 craft ๐ค
solemn pagoda
I did them as collectibles
It is a lv53 but the exp for making and the exp for the turn in is so good
Also the ease of gathering the materials for the combines is not very painful
solemn pagoda
Yeh boi
spice comet
๐
spice comet
Yea I cleared 8s with a bunch of mendacity crap piety wasnt bad in prog at least
scenic patrol
Mendacity boots are part of the BIS
spice comet
And my eureka 355 book was my wep
scenic patrol
I am using HoH
scenic patrol
maybe I should switch to VIT melds later
for now I am using VIT melds
and there's no point
since I am way overgeared for Sigma
spice comet
Vit melds for uwu?
Yeah def
If ur lazy u can keep them in ur sigma clears since its not like u lack dps at this point
glad tapir
i am using DH melds as SCH for savage you dont need any VIT melds :3
spice comet
That only works if ur other healer is compensating
My whm is melded full dh but i have the crit and dets
glad tapir
i dont think so i am heal way more then my co healer does
spice comet
Combine dps over 5k cause whm things
glad tapir
well me and my co healer are always over 5k first 3 floor even more than 6k healer dps
spice comet
Yeah the diff tho y heal more when u can throw that on ur other healer, dh doesnt heal more but it does dps
Also depends on pt
pine beacon
It's a minimal gain, in comparison
spice comet
our rdm is always dying
glad tapir
well you dont need the healing as long your have overhealing numbers
spice comet
So healers have to pick up shit
pine beacon
I think there was a post about it, awhile back. Something along the lines of only if you're a mooncat girl, is it worth
glad tapir
well as long your overhealing number is not smaller than 10% i would always prefer to meld more DH
spice comet
We can't have 6k heaker dps now that healers r doing eruption mechs as well as searing
My preference is since its prog I play safer
glad tapir
i am play always the same i am not sure what you mean by playing safer.. spam useless healing? sounds like you would play with tight hands on your back, so you relearn the whole fight and whole healing rotation you learn in progress once you kill it?
spice comet
Nah i mean safer cause my pt does shit
So yea it is healing more cause ppl fuck up mechs in prog
And if u just tell them all to suck it up i mean then it gets into do we want to see more and hit enrage at least over forcing slower prog
Cause ppl learn slow sometimes and die in prog, lots of res and fast heals
glad tapir
well everyone has his preference but i couldnt play like that, i always try to play best as i can i wouldnt try to hold my self back only that other players can suck makes no sense
anyway thats my view of things
spice comet
Yea I think my preference is carry my pt
Till they get it cause more we see enrage means ppl can still practice mechs in return I just heal more
light wagon
Is o8s a lot harder than o7s?
spice comet
My o8s clear dps would get clip by trine, tanks get hit by tbs without enough cd, it was just as a healer i could carry that kind of mess ups as long as if i sacrifice dps it still is a clear
O8s prog time was about the same as 7s, it has more outgoing dmg
unreal flax
O8S is a lot easier than O7S.
I spent like 7 weeks working on O7S constantly. I spent maybe two or three working on O8S lol
lyric summit
yes but you really should keep that to #archived-lore-spoilers
unreal flax
Isn't that 1.x?
tawny swallow
yeah thats 1.x
lyric summit
tawny swallow
also doing that
light wagon
does o8s have any variance like o7s or is it always the same like o6s
scenic patrol
same order
paper torrent
it has some variance, only on trine tho
scenic patrol
of mechs
paper torrent
but it is same order of mechs
light wagon
oh ok cool
scenic patrol
only thing that is really unexpected is trines
small and big
and both have patterns
Clownka is different though
but mechs still happen in a certain order
lyric summit
future/past too
glossy musk
At what point does 1.x content stop being a spoiler ffs
lyric summit
cause it's most likely an upcoming event instance
which has not happened yet, just been datamined, so it's a spoiler
paper torrent
TIL spoilers are eggs
lyric summit
ur an egg
glossy musk
Confirmed by Vis we cannot speak about anything because it may be a spoiler in the future
This is now the silent discord
First one to talk loses
zinc vortex
fuck
blissful solstice
I'm confused
foggy otter
can anyone explain me how resistance tokens makes sense? you can trade in the exact same gear and get 2 different sets,one better than the other?
scenic patrol
NQ is poop
foggy otter
what is NQ??
scenic patrol
Don't even bother of thinking of using that gear
elder lark
NQ looks kind of like NO which is what you should say to buying NQ gear
scenic patrol
Normal Quality
foggy otter
thats not really relevant to my question
foggy otter
but why is NQ there?
scenic patrol
All crafted gear is green gear
foggy otter
if it takes the exact same materials to obtain?
normal mesa
fail a few hq attempts, trade your nq pile for one hq one lol
scenic patrol
Just don't use NQ gear for content passed level 60
NQ gear is becoming more shitty as expansions go
For some reason
foggy otter
im at 70 lol
scenic patrol
!item antiquated Aymur
storm frostBOT
foggy otter
someone bought it to me
scenic patrol
!item nightsteel cane
storm frostBOT
foggy otter
scenic patrol
Oh well let's try with Axe
near inlet
the bot trolled you
sudden blade
its blackwillow cane
storm frostBOT
foggy otter
but ilvl 290 staff wont get you into lighthouse ๐
foggy otter
shouldnt i bother upgrading the rest?
scenic patrol
If you have a full crafted set upgrade with a priority
scenic patrol
Weapon >Chest/Pants>Gloves/helmet/boots>belt>Accessories
That is the general upgrade priority
unreal lance
normal mesa
are you the one asking for help, or not, Soiboi?
foggy otter
its joke dude chillax
normal mesa
foggy otter
๐ก
unreal lance
scenic patrol
foggy otter
i guess ill wait till i can just replace the ilvl 350 if it fails
foggy otter
some guy spend 6mil on buying this gear for me
i wanna get into savage tho
and do ultimate trials
without sucking balls
scenic patrol
Read guides and etc
unreal lance
Get into o5s and o6s to get better gear then
scenic patrol
Getting into savage right now is a bit weird though
Also upgrade your chest piece before heading into savage
At the least
foggy otter
are there no easier savage bosses for non-guilds?
scenic patrol
!whologs @scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
paper torrent
There's ex trials I guess
scenic patrol
I cleared O5S and O6S in pugs
I have cleared O7S as well in a sorta pug
As a healer
unreal lance
No there is not an "easier" savage raid
scenic patrol
It all depends on you
unreal lance
Normal mode is sleep mode
scenic patrol
If you want to do savage do savage
foggy otter
i did some savage last expansion. i think the first 1-2 bosses
while it was the only bosses out. the first 4 bosses atleast
scenic patrol
Savage has been made more accessible
scenic patrol
You should be able to beat out the tier of you have enough perseverance
spice comet
spice comet
paper torrent
OWO
spice comet
The game is ezer than hw when statics broke from Midas or Gordias
foggy otter
i think i did ravana when it was the hardest boss in the game. is there an achievement for that?
thorn bear
its ok
even a casual like me
can clear the whole raid tier
with nothing but pugs and that rope I leave by my closet
opal hollow
Took me a month to pug o5-8s so it's possible if you have the time
last galleon
it also depends on where in the patch cycle
i also cleared the tier in a month via pugs but that was at the wee beginnings of 4.2
right now i'm not sure how feasible that would be
scenic patrol
Currently is not a good time to start savage raiding
But in a month it's gonna be perfect
Since savage will be unlocked
last galleon
i'm not sure how many early raiders are gonna be farming the tier though, i've pretty much gotten three jobs BiS just from weeklies
opal hollow
man i just realised why i cap so easily on mendacity on my main
o5-8s gives so much mendacity
last galleon
should join o5s learning to get some good pad on adds 
scenic patrol
There's also that initiative from The Balance
But I don't know how people are willing to teach that are also proficient at several roles
vagrant gulch
just join pugs and get exp there
you'll also harvest some good memes for the laughs later
opal hollow
wat
lyric summit
oh apparently it's inner quiet stacks
vital cypress
inner quiet and a multiple of three whistle stacks if you want to go all-in
unless the whistle bonus is applied after the fact and not directly to craftsmanship/control
opal hollow
oh can you not queue up for normal duties and high end duties at the same time?
light wagon
when does the next raid tier come out?
light wagon
is each raid tier usually a increase in difficulty?
lyric summit
not really, most of the "raiding community" would say it's actually decreasing, probably
light wagon
oh ok
lyric summit
although i'd say deltascape and sigmascape are pretty close in difficulty
2nd tier of alex back in HW was like the peak of savage difficulty
only went downhill since then
light wagon
holy moly
pine beacon
Ye. Midas was mechanically difficult. Gordias was a mistake, but still difficult, I guess
But even then
lyric summit
(subjective*) btw
light wagon
i was a little worried that every raid next tier would be harder than godka
pine beacon
This makes the content more accessible, which is good. More people are raiding.
lyric summit
godka isn't super difficult
maybe healing-wise but that's expected for 3rd anf 4th floor of every tier
light wagon
this tier is my first time doing savage and the prog is killing me as a healer
lyric summit
communication with your co-heal and planning out heals is key
unreal flax
looool A7S is the exception, yeah?
lyric summit
knowing when people don't have to be topped off, not overhealing
pine beacon
A7S 
unreal flax
I have never heard anything good about A7S
lyric summit
o4s was more difficult than o8s imo @light wagon
almagest ptsd
last tier i healed, goodnight my sch
vagrant gulch
my healers always flame me because tanks do little mechs
and I'm like
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
you wanted to play healer, not me
vagrant gulch
actually I was about to play healer
I liked sch better
but I've played casters too much in mmorpgs
and range safety is fucking boring tbh
so I wanted to throw myself at melee to test it out
vagrant gulch
I have 0 experience with other classes besides war so I can't tell
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
but people usually says tanks
in the easy part
opal hollow
yeah tanks are brain dead
essentially dps classes
that are more forgiving cuz you're so tankyt
vagrant gulch
you just need to map your cds well
prob for learning a fight is kinda easier than a dps because you screwing up and dying prob is a wipe
opal hollow
blm is up there in hardest imo
vagrant gulch
but that also depends on the fight
opal hollow
yeah true
vagrant gulch
in o7s any death is like a wipe
o6s is residentsleeper
o5s don't matter that much
vagrant gulch
o8s in clown you can still recover if you have nice dps
in godka uh
you can die in some places, but more no than yes
I want to lvl up a blm. Well actually idk. My next job is between ast, blm, or smn
prob not smn because my ping sucks dick
and I just saw their rotation and it has too much double weaving going on
light wagon
if you wipe in godka do you have to start over with clown?
light wagon
cool
paper torrent
speaking from experience?
unreal flax
There was a video made. It was cute.
paper torrent
O O F
scenic patrol
I did say that Sigma is effectively my first tier
Anyhow I hope to get to heal Godka soon
looks fun
and a bit aids
unreal flax
I wonder if we'll ever get another tier as tight as Midas
arctic field
WAR is the easiest of the three right now, right?
arctic field
DRK is the hardest?
arctic field
True
paper torrent
PIck whatever you like
arctic field
I just feel like I mess up PLD more but if I ignore everyone I seem to do fine
paper torrent
DRK isn't so hard that it's hard gated to people
that's... kinda the problem
you can't ignore people as PLD
Cover, DV
also tanking in savage is a lot about communication with co tank
arctic field
I think I should just Requiescat even if I'm going to be healing people if it's up in the rotation
arctic field
But then the healer ded
unreal flax
clemency is a meme
if you're in a party
That lost tank damage GCD vastly outweighs a gained healer damage GCD
arctic field
So just let him die then, got it
scenic patrol
it's not your job to heal
unreal flax
If he dies, he dies.
scenic patrol
unreal flax
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
arctic field
Okay then
unreal flax
If you're not doing solo content, you can safely just take Clemency off your bar entirely.
It's nice to be able to do silly stuff like trigger your own Divine Veil, but in content that matters, you're just bringing down the rDPS.
dull radish
I still like having clemency on there, for the offchance that it might actually help
since very situationally it can make a difference
it's not something you rely on, or that you should look to really be using
but in the case that you can, it can be a big deal
unreal flax
Remember the days of tanks killing Calofisteri after everyone else already agreed it was a wipe. THOSE DAYS lol
Clemency was king back then
paper torrent
F
unreal flax
All you needed was a PLD and a WAR and you could kill any boss.
Well, any boss without an enrage.
Stuck outside the room watching two or three people trying to bring the boss down from 11% lol.
opal hollow
wait don't you clemency yourself pre pull for divine veil on godka
dull radish
or even the fairy~
dull radish
mmhmm
worthy vigil
Whatโs a good way to spend creation? If I donโt need any armor I mean
arctic field
Check the MB for mat prices, I guess?
last galleon
or buy equipment then turn into GC seals
worthy vigil
Most of my alt jobs have have Anemos and Diamond gear
worthy vigil
Yeah, suppose I can do that
vagrant gulch
I'm still looking for a goldsmith to meld my shit
no one in my fc seems to have one or wants to help
:(
scenic patrol
You used your accessories already
So they are a pain in the ass to meld
Since you'll need to use the Request meld thingie
And that shit is annoying
unreal flax
Heroku app is back. Real ones care.
light wagon
what dps class do you guys think is the easiest?
arctic field
๐ค So...WAR?
arctic field
๐ค True...
paper torrent
Rdm is def the easiest
arctic field
But it gets you large numbers and instant queues ๐ค
Blue DPS
unreal lance
It's not though
blissful solstice
gray parses are better than not clearing
arctic field
I agree
unreal lance
I don't agree
blissful solstice
why
arctic field
If the entire party parses gray and clears, then you're okay for that party
But, say, you're gray but everyone else is doing well. Then you have to try harder.
But if you're gray and everyone else is doing well...and you don't seek to improve. You're just being carried.
Like that, I suppose.
paper torrent
damn unlucky
arctic field
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arctic field
It'd be nice if it was before the next expac...but I can wait
lyric summit
ye after you wipe like 5? minutes into the fight
paper torrent
ye it's pretty comfy
lyric summit
you get +5%
arctic field
jolly sluice
activities you do at the end of the game
stable basin
There are alot of ends
jolly sluice
This is true
stable basin
Just curious if im end game or not
heavy mist
Endgame being like u finished the MSQ for the current patch
Imo
As u start going into content to prep for next patch
lunar blaze
i still have 18 until i can do SB ;-;
elder dawn
it's been done before
steep iris
door kefka is pretty easy to heal
god kefka tho
i've only seen it being done on noct ast
last galleon
UCoB and UWU were also solo healed, savage is pretty light in comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNZnqo5oEdo godka has been done on sch
last galleon
in UWU the second searing wind just went on a caster, i'm not sure if it's completely random or 'any non MT'
hybrid rapids
UwU healing is more forgiving than Ucob
but there're certain part of healing is very strict
they survived the last primal with critical HP left
Ucob is the one worth to see
LB to mitigate damage
stable basin
I think Primal PF broke this guy's brain
sand star
my engame is levelling others to 70 cz im too shy to pug omega
sand star
Yeah, doing them and the roulette, reached ilevel 330 at least
paper torrent
omega normal blind is super fun
sand star
I didn't go blind in the normal runs thank fuck
paper torrent
blind savage is suffering though
sand star
Only did deltascape v1 savage till now
It was hard as a new healer, and everyone dying so i had no mana after a few resses
We took 30 mins to clear
sand star
Yeah we did good once everyone was comfortable. Main issue in the fight was 2 asts, so we had no burst ogcd heals
scenic patrol
And get a job that you were less than a week used straight into savage
Oh yeah, not knowing fights with AST makes ES kinda weird
scenic patrol
Don't worry about me, I am quite competent and I brought the jobs after already clearing the tier
!whologs @scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
!charlogs Omega Johni Bravo
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Scholar and WHM respectively
sand star
I need to install this too someday
sand star
!charlogs Omega Primatus Soprey
storm frostBOT
sand star
yeah there's no logs on me XD
scenic patrol
Only logs for current tier
sand star
yeah act
scenic patrol
The bot doesn't bring anything other than Sigmascape, Ucob and UwU
sand star
Oh okay good to know.
This game is definitely much more different than aion. The endgame seems much more harder, and less of a dps race
scenic patrol
DPS is still pretty important
You will not beat content if you are mediocre and play with mediocre people
O7S requires 29K raid DPS
Let's assume somewhat competent dps players and we get 5.5K on avarage
boreal edge
its always someone carrying the slack of others on weekly pf
sand star
Yeah that is true, but in aion there being no ilevel restrictions you end up with low gear people, which higher gear have to compensate. And I think the most mechanically demanding fight to this day has been Cradle of eternity. Otherwise tank and spank with a mechanic here or there
sand star
The only complaint I have with the current raiding in ffxiv is how hard it's to play BLM
hybrid rapids
the tough one are savage and ultimate
normal and 24 man raid
is more accessible and forgiving
sand star
I really like the savage raids, to watch that is XD
scenic patrol
24 people in Alliance raid sometimes can't match the dps that a group of 8 man can do
sand star
Yikes
scenic patrol
People suck at this game
arctic field
Oh, I might have been with that one
sand star
just gonna say, ouch
stable basin
Wasn't there a 2500 DPS bard at like 75th percentile in there
arctic field
The alliance almost wiped at every single mechanic
arctic field
Assuming day 1, Johni
sand star
Oh my, the suffereing
scenic patrol
Still yikes
sand star
gotta love blind runs
stable basin
First night Lighthouse was a blast
scenic patrol
Blind runs are fun
scenic patrol
But I didn't feel like trying to do that shit blind
arctic field
I also got my drop...so that was great
stable basin
People going crazy and thinking we had to chase the little +/- circles around in Yiazmat
arctic field
Oh, I watched someone shoot into the air
And decided I'd stick to the ground somehow
And then I watched the floating people fly away
And figured I was right
๐ค
stable basin
Me: Oh, I'm levitiating. Levitating is usually good.
sand star
I still haven't reached that content, (taking too long to complete msq)
paper torrent
Rake was really fun
when you realize
it's literaly stare at ass
the the mechanic
the mechanic has you chasing ass.
๐
paper torrent
ah, melee life.
arctic field
Yeah
Didn't realize how his turns worked at first
Cause I was busy raising people
And then died
stable basin
I actually read the little notes leading up to Mathman and started joking about prime number mechanic incoming on the next boss
arctic field
I didn't expect people to be so bad at math
I didn't try explaining anything cause I figured it was obvious
๐ค
opal hollow
wiat how does yiaz's turns work?
stable basin
I was dead for it the first time
opal hollow
i kept getting shit on by it as blm
felt like he just turns to face me and double hits my ass
stable basin
Then I just did it properly because working thinkparts
sand star
blms are just made to suffer.
stable basin
The ring around him shows which way he's gonna turn
sand star
Also they circles shall always spawn on leylines!
arctic field
And then he turns like 70 degrees?
stable basin
Not sure if it's 100% consistent but it seems to be a similar amount each time
paper torrent
yeah i think it's a simiilar amount but i dunno how much
he seems to usually make a weird triangle shape
stable basin
Also I'm really bad at dodging it but trying to stay on the outside of his little triangle seems to work better than the inside
arctic field
Yeah
opal hollow
in terms of mana restoration
arctic field
I stay on the inside and Ruin II though
opal hollow
refresh > manashift?
paper torrent
refresh restores mana?
opal hollow
yeah turns out it's like quadruple the amount of mana regen
paper torrent
So... why does every guide recommend mana shift then 
hybrid rapids
what do you mean by refresh > manashift ?
Refresh does regen more mana than manashift, and Refresh affect surrounding party members
manashift is single target
opal hollow
wasn't sure what the actual values were
arctic field
Hmm
I like having both since more mana is always nice
But I guess that's cause PUG's always have dead people
sullen needle
yeah like
since when are mana shift and refresh in competition with eachother anyway
leaden lava
next you'll be telling me cure II is more potent than regen for single target healing..... ๐ค
arctic field
I think Shift is more reliable though since it means you have the mana immediately
But your BRD or MCH should have Refresh anyway
So it doesn't matter, I suppose
frosty stag
boreal edge
refresh restores full mp
arctic field
opal hollow
You should refresh in advance, not when u at 5% mana ๐ค
boreal edge
its not exactly full mp
if we account the 1% every 2.5s
so refresh bring back around 85% of total mp
unreal lance
Break Mage
limpid ocean
!action regen
storm frostBOT
limpid ocean
!action cure ii
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Rovan has searched a safe space from the bullying
limpid ocean
I just wanted to compare the two in case โnext you'll be telling me cure II is more potent than regen for single target healing..... ๐คโ was sarcastic
or was it reverse sarcasm
limpid ocean
yeee
storm frostBOT
sullen sable
Well timed plunge
limpid ocean
pray
pine beacon
Ye, Plunge is life
frosty stag
it resists KB?
opal hollow
holy shit 5k dps is grey parse for blm
leaden lava
in which fight?
frosty stag
k good to know
leaden lava
Considering there's scholars pulling 4k, 5k doesnt seem very high for a dps
I mean, I can even pull like 3.8k in 6S. My tank finishes on 4.8 when he's meming
so yeah, 5k being grey doesn't surprise me
spice comet
5k is grey prob from gear too
O5s 5.5k for rdm and that was green
Or blue? ๐ค
4k sch is actually 99 percentile
scenic patrol
That's either chadding your co healer or some speed memes
spice comet
!whologs @spice comet
storm frostBOT
spice comet
Cause like i dont even 3k and its purple
pine beacon
More realistically, you're looking at 2.5 - ~3k from schs
Ye
And even that's on the high end
spice comet
Yea 2.5k is alrdy high
scenic patrol
Last I checked speed Scholars pulled 3.5K
spice comet
Top healer is around 3.5
For dps 5k is actually not bad if ur not bis and like at 350 or so
spice comet
My mch was 349
leaden lava
7 and 8 are a little harder
spice comet
4.8k dps
leaden lava
pb in 6 is 3.9
dull radish
5k is pretty bad for BLM even at the start of the tier
spice comet
Rip blm
leaden lava
4 is like, top 5 world scholars.
dull radish
You're doing something wrong for that number haha
scenic patrol
4K sounds padded
pine beacon
When all you bring to the table is damage, the expectation is that you'll bring a lot of it.
scenic patrol
Tbh
pine beacon
Ye
spice comet
4k is padded
leaden lava
4k isnt padded if the sch is good
pine beacon
^
leaden lava
I pulled 3.9 without any solo balances and the healing was shared appropriately. Everyoen else on the run got an orange, there was no padding at all
spice comet
๐ค
spice comet
!whologs @leaden lava
storm frostBOT
leaden lava
You're not getting my logs fam, I have people here who hate me so my identity is secret
scenic patrol
So we call bullshit
spice comet
Nah i just called bs
scenic patrol
pine beacon
leaden lava
but, all you have to do is go to fflogs and look at some top sch parses to know Im not bullshitting - you dont need to pad for 3.7-4k on sch in 5 and 6
spice comet
Done giving my input cause there wasnt proof
leaden lava
you can call bs if you want, i dont really care, Im not lying though. If I was lying Id be telling you I was one of the 4k scholars, not someone who managed to pull 3.9 once
(in 6)
My usual in 6 on a clean run with my group is about 3.6ish
Its really not that hard to get
(assuming you're BiS)
spice comet
Johni pulled up best 6
pine beacon
scenic patrol
I pulled up speed
spice comet
3.5k ๐
leaden lava
thats over 2 weeks though right?
spice comet
Train
scenic patrol
Found one legit 4K SCH so there's that
pine beacon
leaden lava
the parses recently have been shit because everyone's doing uwu
scenic patrol
Top 2 were both chadded
scenic patrol
Most of the other logs within that range have the healing being more on the co healer
Aka chadded
scenic patrol
But expecting 4K on a healer is pretty unrealistic in most circumstances
leaden lava
expecting 4k is unrealistic in like, all circumstances
nah top sch meld crit>dh
its just that where the crit is maxed you meld dh
frosty stag
where's vit
leaden lava
kys lol
unreal lance
Wow
frosty stag
scenic patrol
Not the place buddy
leaden lava
Vit for uwu prog I guess
leaden lava
I think I went Vit right side, det and a bit of piety left side for uwu
but still mainly crit
and a bit of dh
so that it procced sometimes
Johni [Hotpants cultist] - Today at 2:38 PM
Not the place buddy
(OK sorry if I offended anyone)
leaden lava
ah I was only meming, Ive apologised 0.0
ANYWAYs yeah crit> DH I think is still the 'damage build' for sch
mfw my group tells me I have to keep vit melds on for uwu sells ๐คฃ
dull radish
Folks also very much tend to overestimate the effects of little things like that, if a bulk of melds are where you want them
Like of course it can make a bit of a difference, but it's not really a reason to say to can't be getting better numbers
Always something to improve on
leaden lava
agreed. TBH the main way to pull good dps on healers is - have a good comp, have a good cohealer, share the healing properly, have tanks that know their shit, kill it fast, skip phases
and play your class optimally
dull radish
Mmhmm
leaden lava
the amount of scholars (for example) I still see deploying prepull for 6S
such a waste of mitigation
leaden lava
for bits where actual damage goes out
frosty stag
leaden lava
think about it. prepull if you have an AST, star will be down. DO, the deploy is a waste. If you have a whem, medica 2 can go out prepull. The first AOE of 6S does like, no damage.
SO, you're better off using it later on, when there's sequential aoe damage
opal hollow
oh was talking about kefuast
leaden lava
OR if you want to LB faster for speed, you actually deploy for the first tornado thing and only have the ranged take it
dull radish
That starting deploy literally gives you nothing yeah
leaden lava
oh in Kefaust you defeinitely dont reploy prepull
scenic patrol
Hmmm
leaden lava
*deploy lol
scenic patrol
That's nice to know
scenic patrol
But I doubt I'll ever optimize O6S as a healer
leaden lava
6s is actual cancer to speedkill
opal hollow
i read that as speedcancer to kill
leaden lava
logruns are easy, speedkills require some really stupid LB strats which I don't think demonstrates much skill
dull radish
I hate LB strats for things
leaden lava
well for one you dont take both colours for the black+blue mechanic