endgame-lounge

[paper torrent]

or you're not doing runs by wed/ thursday

or REALLY unlucky.

if you aren't progging savage you have very little reason to upgrade your gear past 365/ the casual welfare 370's that SE gives out from 24 man

since those last two fights are the current end of the gear treadmill where it would matter most

regardless, if you want to get into Eureka for pagos now

my recommendation would be to do solo/duo grinding to 5, fill out your challenge log when you can, and then join the NM train after level 5

if you don't like grinding though you will hate eureka

it's basically mob farming/fate trains

HOWEVER

if you're doing just fate trains

you can just work on other stuff/watch videos while waiting

[lucid karma]

I fucking hate aug tome WAR weapon tho

what an ass of weapon

pray new eureka weapon is i370

or very least i365 with good substat

[paper torrent]

so fucking true...

!item mizukai

[storm frost]

**Mikazuki** **:** Marauder's Arm **:** ilvl 360

Damage

102

Magic Damage

69

Auto Attack

114.24

Strength

330

Vitality

358

Tenacity

298

Skill Speed

209

Materia Meldable

Yes

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[paper torrent]

!item mikazuki kai

[storm frost]

**Mikazuki Kai** **:** Marauder's Arm **:** ilvl 370

Damage

104

Magic Damage

70

Auto Attack

116.47

Strength

347

Vitality

380

Tenacity

311

Skill Speed

218

Materia Meldable

Yes

[paper torrent]

GROANS

meanwhile diamond axe is stronk as fuck

[paper torrent]

@wet stag @lucid karma Tsyu Axe OP, O6S for reference

[lucid karma]

now I'm tempted to farm bunny ex

[paper torrent]

that run would've defintely been purple

if it wasn't 10 minutes

Cursed dps

hit enrage first pull

[wet stag]

You finally broke 4.3k

[zinc vortex]

MY MAN

DOING IT

[feral tendon]

Well I'm certain I can do v7s

i just don't have that much time / week

and i don't have a static because my times are unpredictable

[hybrid rapids]

[feral tendon]

i'll get on it at some point

[hybrid rapids]

tenacity

what in a tarnation

[paper torrent]

not just any tenacity

tenacity with SKILL SPEEDDDD

[uncut charm]

anyone knows whats the diff between standard comp and non standard in fflogs meant again?

[paper torrent]

standard is 2-2-4

anything devitating from that is nonstandard

so in other words, what DF wants you to have for an 8 man, 2 healers, 2 tanks, 4 dps

[uncut charm]

oh

is there a way like key in your dps number manually and they calcualte which exact percentage you are at

I don't have an account in fflogs

YaoMing

[paper torrent]

you can only kinda look ateh graphs

and see where the breakpoints are

for certain percentiles

[uncut charm]

but the graph is like

either 75, 95 and 99

[feral tendon]

what dps should a PLD have for v7s

[uncut charm]

3862 for 75th percentile for PLD on 7s

4166 for 95

[feral tendon]

yeah i do like 3.6k depending on the fight

[uncut charm]

food pot?

[feral tendon]

i don't use pots, i do use crimson cider

[paper torrent]

don't pot when you don't know you can clear

unless you're literally made of money

food is defintely a must tho

[feral tendon]

idk i have like 5 mil

and i'm on a server with cheap mb

[uncut charm]

depends tho, I think you should pot at certain times if its like just a little bit to push to see next phase etc

[paper torrent]

i'm prepetually poor so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[feral tendon]

i hit 70 after omegascape was out so

i had to catch up

[uncut charm]

I'm not even raiding YaoMing

FeelsBadMan

[feral tendon]

it's fun i like how little time i can spend

[uncut charm]

I only do ez content like Tsukuyomi and then I look at myself

90 dps to hit 95th percentile (not even hitting 95 on ez content)

FeelsBadMan

[feral tendon]

i prefer to clear saturday :<

[feral tendon]

now the age old question

which one do i use

i have a lot of skillspeed

[lyric summit]

tsukuyomi

[feral tendon]

1259

with tsu

[lyric summit]

more str and vit, most important

[feral tendon]

vit most important

wat

[lyric summit]

isn't it a tank mainstat

and mainstat > everything

I meant more of both str and vit, which tank damage scales off, so losing crit and gaining sks doesn't matter

as long as you're gaining mainstat(s)

[lucid karma]

Flat damage is better unless in some cases

Like BRD who breathes crit

[junior basin]

97 vs 94 str. Easy choice imo.

[wet stag]

Contrary to what you think, SKS doesn't cuck you as much as you think it does

[zinc vortex]

b-but i had issues with skillspeed in HW

like my monk friend who refused to use the i270 knuckles over his i255 sophia ones because they had skillspeed

[steep iris]

what you obviously need as pld is SpS

h o l y s p i r i t

[uncut charm]

^

[lusty oak]

Get diamond shield

ez

[stable basin]

which is the more desirable OT for o8s? drk or pld and why?

[sour solstice]

pld

[scenic patrol]

Cover

Cover gets some good job done

also pls stop thinking of that fight in terms of OT and MT

that thinking is a massive trap

[sleek belfry]

You want two cotanks

Or a drk to take every tank buster solo

Bleed? What bleed?

[supple sail]

@lyric summit VIT no longer gives any damage for tanks. That was only the case from 3.2 through to SB release.

4.0 changed the tank damage formula back to just STR.

VIT is HP only.

[sour solstice]

Entropy is number 1 on the speedrun board now

15:47

[unreal flax]

All traps all day yesterday.

Simply could not get my fucking sixth clear of O7S.

[valid gate]

which is the more desirable OT for o8s? drk or pld and why?

i desire a tank that doesn't call itself ot

[stable basin]

Yeah there's way too much sks for pld lately but I'm not sure when it warrants using a lower ilvl piece

It feels like the menda gloves are worse than the anemos pentamelded but even that might be wrong by numbers

[unreal flax]

Man, ain't tanks already using lowered iLevels because of their fuckin accessories?

[scenic patrol]

!whoami

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo, Dark Driver

Hyur, Highlander
Level 70 Warrior [Item Level 363]
<VIth Imperial Legion> on Odin

[scenic patrol]

[blissful solstice]

!whoami

[storm frost]

Ryu Shadeslayer, The Heart of the Party

Lalafell, Dunesfolk
Level 70 Summoner [Item Level 370]
Solo on Ultros

[sour solstice]

@scenic patrol that recruitment message better?

[scenic patrol]

Much better

[scenic patrol]

Getting an orange on Warrior in a nutshell

fight ended at 9:49

[sour solstice]

damn

Emiin is angery

[wet stag]

That's normal emiin

[sour solstice]

where is that anyway?

[wet stag]

Thats balance

[sour solstice]

WAR discussion or tank general

I know its balance

Emiin has his green name

[wet stag]

Tank gen

[scenic patrol]

he wasn't angry really

[sour solstice]

I know

[scenic patrol]

mostly at how Warrior parses are

[sour solstice]

thats why I said angery

instead of angry

[scenic patrol]

so much RNG for high parses

[blissful solstice]

idk the culture around parses now is mostly pretty toxic

since some people say 'parses don't mean anything so the fact that i parse gray is just because my NIN didn't hit trick attack!'

and some people say 'if you don't parse orange you're trash'

[boreal edge]

mch has same treatment as war

must end fight right after WF explode

or rip 100+ dps

as long you parse 50% i will know that you are at least trying

getting orange isnt simple

playing common and uncommon job is also playing a role on it too

getting 95% as pld isnt same as 95% as mch for example

[blissful solstice]

Yeah like

[boreal edge]

getting to that 5% place you on 900 plds

[grizzled seal]

just enjoy the game 😔

[blissful solstice]

In deltascape I played BLM and parsed 70ish% even though I was trash

Since nobody played BLM

[boreal edge]

on mch it place u among 150

[tropic brook]

This dps math is fudging up my brain

[blissful solstice]

And then I switched to SMN and now I'm way better but my parses are in the same place

Since every good group has a SMN

[last galleon]

Getting 95 on meta jobs is harder since they tend to, well, be in a meta comp

Unless your the special snowflake mch where nobody plays you

[blissful solstice]

Yep

[boreal edge]

getting 95% as brd is easy

hell i got 95% without sch

and ninja

[tropic brook]

Time to be a special snowflake then

[dull radish]

it's a bit of a weird spread, playing more popular jobs vs not, for how easy it is to parse

[last galleon]

It’s not always clear cut but the difference is there

[dull radish]

it depends on where you're aiming

[tropic brook]

I'm sorry

[boreal edge]

too many ppl playing brd

[last galleon]

Bard has a billion parses pretty much

Ninja too probably

[tropic brook]

What does parse mean?

[grizzled seal]

less played class usually have very good players at the top

[dull radish]

yeah, exactly

and thus small variances in dps can make for big variance in percentile

[boreal edge]

getting 95% of less popular jobs is far harder

[blissful solstice]

Yeah

[dull radish]

compared to more popular jobs that there's a more even spread

[last galleon]

Almost 30k parses for bard whew

[blissful solstice]

Getting purple on BLM is ez

Getting orange means you need to be a god

[dull radish]

more people optimize on the popular, especially meta jobs, so the high end is really high even with taking away padding, but orange is still a bit more attainable

[last galleon]

I somehow didn’t expect them to outnumber ninjas that much

[dull radish]

NIN mains don't even like NIN that much haha

[last galleon]

21k for ninjas

[dull radish]

it's just that good that they play it anyways

[grizzled seal]

Not really, since good casters are more likely to swap between smn, blm and rdm

while melee players don't swap as often

atleast from what i've seen

[blissful solstice]

Most good casters never play BLM until farm

Unless you're a literal BLM god

[boreal edge]

u got rika play blm in prog

[dull radish]

savage prog is easy, jobs don't matter too much other than wanting some kind of refresh

[grizzled seal]

I don't think blm is too bad since you have triplecast, swiftcast and am

[last galleon]

I won’t trust a random BLM in prog honestly

[dull radish]

ultimate prog isn't the best option but hey it's fun at least

[tropic brook]

BLM looks ok

[last galleon]

Too many times where we wasted prog because they weren’t stacked for heals

[blissful solstice]

Lack of a rez really hurts it

[dull radish]

yeah

[last galleon]

When you can’t control for player quality having a BLM can be a liability in prog

[dull radish]

at least with SAM you're not taking away the standard rez dps slot

[blissful solstice]

Yeah I mean obviously I'd take Rika over a random SMN

But I'd rather have a mediocre SMN or RDM than a mediocre BLM

[last galleon]

And Sam is at least more mobile. Or at least, players tend to be in nevada less.

[grizzled seal]

dunno man, bards and mch are thr most likely to just run off in my book

[last galleon]

I’ve been with great BLMs for weeklies but there’s definitely a stigma around it for prog, and not entirely undeserved

[blissful solstice]

Refresh is too good though

[grizzled seal]

extra points if its one of thr brds that never stands still

[boreal edge]

blm is more easier than it was in hw

[dull radish]

for BLM it's a lot of case of, it's a bit of a stereotype that enough of them propagate to keep it alive

even though it's quite easy to be where you need to be for stuff, with minimal to no loss

even during prog

[boreal edge]

losing a cast be4 can cost you alot of stuff

[blissful solstice]

Bad BLMs are just a massive liability

[boreal edge]

from the 3 stacks up to enochian

[dull radish]

mmm

there was only one cast that was an issue if you didn't get it off

and that was B4

you could always transpose -> B4 in emergency in HW

[grizzled seal]

most classes are a liability if they're bad

[dull radish]

and not lose much

[last galleon]

There’s a difference between bad dps and literally wiping the raid from double wings because you’re camping too far

One of them I can carry, the other not so much

[boreal edge]

idk why would a mch run away

given how FT work

its 60 pot but still extra dmg

[grizzled seal]

I mean a bad melee will just fail other mechanics that will wipe you

[last galleon]

I’ve not really seen bard and mch escape problems in o8s, from the small sample size I have. I think even the liability BLMs know to an extent that they should be close, but they’re balancing that with ‘oh let me get this cast off, maybe I’ll be fine’

[tropic brook]

Rip

[grizzled seal]

I mean every dps does that to an extent, atleast I did back on drg 😌

[last galleon]

At least on drg you’re mostly close to the boss already? Haha...

[boreal edge]

lemme do that jump i should be ok

at last sec of dodging

[last galleon]

Yeah I definitely recall melees missing heals cuz positional

[grizzled seal]

elusive is a dangerous tool if you need to move somewhere or be away

head-on for example

(in pugs)

[indigo kraken]

jesus christ

im watching os7 visual guide and virus phase looks so scary

[tropic brook]

It's, not thaaaaaat bad

[scenic patrol]

Virus is the easiest part of the fight

hyper braindead

just need some coordination

[tropic brook]

But that's what makes it so hard

You rarely find a coordinated group on pf

[boreal edge]

@scenic patrol doing uwu tonight?

or anything

[scenic patrol]

weeklies

need a healer

[boreal edge]

rip

[indigo kraken]

@tropic brook exactly

[dull radish]

what job are you

[indigo kraken]

PLD

[dull radish]

ok if you have searing wind you go to your corner. If you don't have searing wind, you go stand in mid near a marker, voking boss if you don't have it

that's basically all you have to worry about

[indigo kraken]

im mainly worried about how the party will do since I do have a static

party finder..

[dull radish]

everyone else's job is similarly easy

[indigo kraken]

i can feel the re-do's incoming

[dull radish]

just go to your spot

the only annoying part is passing rot

[indigo kraken]

mhmm

[dull radish]

but you can pass it a bunch extra and still be ok

I rarely see pugs ever really fail at passing rot

it's more about being dumb and not going to their spot

[indigo kraken]

i'll hope on that

[paper torrent]

It's just searing that gets most people

[tropic brook]

Every party I've been on dies on dada

And 1 shot missile hitboxes

[thorn bear]

I felt bad for the aprty I cleared o7s with 2 weeks ago

[dull radish]

yeah most deaths tend to be to the dumb, easy stuff

[thorn bear]

because they were all doing mechanics really well

and I was getting hit with airforce diffractive

[tropic brook]

Oof

[thorn bear]

because I only ever cleared with a static

who had callouts for everything

and I was the "main tank"

[tropic brook]

I haven't cleared yet

Still suffering

Forever a pawn to the pf

[last galleon]

not relying on callouts makes you a more adaptive player 👍

[thorn bear]

Yeah I'm really good at O8s comparitively because I learned what I know in the fight from pf exclusively

[last galleon]

yeah, that's one advantage of learning it from PF with inconsistent pug quality

you really get to know the fight and adapt to all sorts of weird shit

[boreal edge]

@last galleon like me doing 2nd forsaken as both ranger and melee spot

[last galleon]

{same}

[thorn bear]

the only hard part is constantly telling tanks when I want to tank swap

[last galleon]

i've also done pretty unusual strats for gravens

[thorn bear]

I've ran into so many tanks that just won't swap after light of judgement in kefaust

[boreal edge]

we dont swap

and its fine

[scenic patrol]

but it's so comfy to swap there

[thorn bear]

I always swap during graven cast

[last galleon]

i thought swapping every light was pretty standard pug strat atm

[scenic patrol]

but like, why not swap?

[last galleon]

most people just roll with it

[scenic patrol]

one tank is jacking off with his CDs without swaps

[boreal edge]

because thats how our ex war used to do it

[paper torrent]

press sentinel, e z p z

[boreal edge]

and didnt feel like changing it after 10 weeks worth of kefaust kills

[spice comet]

Pug strat, tank go east for 2nd grav--- yep

[stable basin]

yeah aether pf isn't what it used to be. when you have o8s raiders who get stuck in pf on moon bunny (yes, I know such people) ...

how's primal and chaos pf doing on that btw?

there seems to be a sort of perception (probably mostly among frustrated Aetherians) that Aether's PF is worse than the others

but could just be grass is greener

[last galleon]

i get my regular dose of 'how do i drop meteors' in farm parties so i don't think primal is substantially better or worse

[glossy musk]

Primal PF is a trap

[sour solstice]

can confirm

[lunar carbon]

O5S progress, must know past doomgate

party wipes at first remorse ghost

[valid gate]

grass is greener

as someone who plays on both DCs ive always had a better gameplay experience on aether

but people are way more likely to be

MASSIVE tools

primal you won't get that as long as you avoid certain people

[stable basin]

Meru, that's probably because at least at first there were three or four different common variations for meteor placement

not that there's that much difference, it seems like the MTQ and Healers Adjust strategies are virtually the same except the healer was switched with someone else in the video

(I'm not entirely sure what Mr Happy did since I never watch Mr Happy videos anymore and I heard it was inferior anyways, and I'm a little foggy on what "small triangle" meant now)

[junior basin]

Likely the safe spot between the 3 meteor placements.

[stable basin]

Only time I used Mr Happy this expansion was for O2S and I remember getting off to a much rockier start with it than with the stuff I used MTQ for

[boreal edge]

ppl do triangle meteors

wut

[stable basin]

I'm also still not clear on what advantage is realized by having the healer be the float role, either, unless the meme just makes it easier to memorize

[boreal edge]

wait nvm

im stupid

[stable basin]

It's always someone goes to A someone goes to C and someone has to float, anyways

[boreal edge]

u can have ot to float

[stable basin]

And tbh lunacy seems to be a lot more hectic than meteors, I can't blame people for wanting to look for big dick DPS to try to get her down before more than one of them

[boreal edge]

since its guaranteed for him to be marked

[stable basin]

I don't think we've actually had an EX fight involve handling that many things at once that quickly (as Lunacy) before? Usually that complex a combo isn't seen outside of the back half of Savage

[boreal edge]

wut

its even in HM

[stable basin]

yeah and pugs mess it up on normal too

[boreal edge]

the same exact combo

shiva one is way harder

with aoes + preys aoes

[stable basin]

It is like Nidhogg, but Akh Morn didn't involve you having to move fast in unison in the middle of it

which is probably in the end the hard part in a PUG

anything where the whole group has to move fast (because of the fan dance) and at the same time (because stack) tends to ... yeah :p

[spice comet]

It's pugs, Susano was hard for pugs

[boreal edge]

nidhogg akh morn did far more dmg

lunacy is what

10k x4?

[stable basin]

Shiva also seemed a lot easier (yes, I've done it synced) but that's likely gear effect

(And even then tbh synced with a pug it took us about 45 mins to clear)

[lyric kelp]

You have plenty of time for lunacy + fans, I've never seen any group have trouble there

The entire fight after metoers is super relaxed

And meteors is more of getting everyone on the same page than anything

Basically every pug has a different strat for meteors

[scenic patrol]

I want to do UwU

[blissful solstice]

@scenic patrol why can't you do it

[scenic patrol]

need people

[blissful solstice]

Look in pf

[last galleon]

I’m not even talking about meteor positions, I think primal pug strat is converging atm but we’d have people not drop the tank and DPS meteors in the smaller crescent and wipe

Every time I see only one single meteor of the smaller crescent I worry because I’m pretty sure they’re not doing it to ensure consistent movement of the party when there’s one safe zone. More likely that someone in the party doesn’t realize dropping meteors on smaller crescent is a thing.

And inevitably we wipe in later pulls when both people selected have no idea what they’re doing. Basically, typical PF.

[stable basin]

That's probably actually a common issue with farms for fights with critical random assignment mechanics like that

Especially ones that are assigned, or include one assigned to a single random DPS

[scenic patrol]

find a static through PF

yikes

or even worse

pug UwU

[last galleon]

learn japanese, move to JP DC, pug uwu

[steep iris]

I gave in and used all my mendacity and books on smn

maybe I should've used my pages on the body

rather than the wep

I also have too much SpS now

👀

[scenic patrol]

I am gonna be a BiS SAM when I get to 70 with it

Crit build

👀

[thorn bear]

slow boye build

[scenic patrol]

Aye

I really don't fucking want to grind Mendacity for SkS BiS

So might as well roll with my Monk setup

High Crit

👀

In 2 or less weeks I'll have 4 jobs at BiS

Or sorta BiS

[lavish cobalt]

Hey guys i've been seeing some top dragoons not using the biS set but actually some difference in gear with VIT meld? anyone can explain me why vit :o

[sour solstice]

because they dont want to instadie to some mechanics

VIT is for prog, it makes your life a little more cozy

and the DPS loss is minimal

[lavish cobalt]

oo thanka for clarifying

[scenic patrol]

People are currently progging UwU

VIT is much more valuable than any increase in dps

It might have for optimal melds

Just like some tanks opt for 370 ilvl sets

It's all for progression

[indigo kraken]

I dont know if I'll be able to make weekly raids a thing I can do since I'm about to get a job again

[scenic patrol]

Depends on tank

Around 60-80 dps for Warrior

120-150 for PLD and DRK

[boreal edge]

@scenic patrol cause drk/pld get more from their autos than war?

[scenic patrol]

Probably more to do with how substats scale on the tanks

[steep iris]

I wish I could control how much SpS I have

2.36 gcd on smn but any other gear is a downgrade for me

[heavy mist]

Probably cause either they cleared or not doing weeklies

I would think

[pure yoke]

Hi

[sour solstice]

Hi mug

[zinc vortex]

you think 2.36s gcd on SMN is fast? baby numbers

😤

try 2.22

F A S T

[paper torrent]

DEJA VU

[torn kindle]

when you meld SpS on BLM but you also wanna play RDM/SMN

🔫

[paper torrent]

when your addle clips

and you lose a freaking wyrmwave

[torn kindle]

SMN: "We use raidwide damage mitigation for a dps increase"

[zinc vortex]

i clip slightly when double weaving

500 crit btw

i like the samurai F A S T B O Y E though

sub 2s GCD with shifu is neat

only downside is

[paper torrent]

why are you playing SAM

if not going speedyboi

[zinc vortex]

my monk is on a 1.9s GCD too

[paper torrent]

you're already playing a meme class

might as well go full meme

[torn kindle]

*melds SpS to PLD for maximum flash spam*

[paper torrent]

you joke

but i had a PLD

unironically flash spam in o5s

[zinc vortex]

i play samurai because i enjoy playing samurai

[paper torrent]

more power to you then 😊

[zinc vortex]

and because the people that i raid with realise that i'm good enough to play whatever the fuck i want

[paper torrent]

It does good dps

if you know, you aren't brain-addled pf garbage like me

[torn kindle]

It's pretty brave to come out like that and say you enjoy samurai

🏳️‍🌈

[zinc vortex]

i would voluntarily get dicked by samurai if i could

[torn kindle]

I want a dicking from BLM's massive rod

that's a very specific emoji name

[stable basin]

What’s the dps requirement for godka

[hybrid rapids]

those with brain installed

just kidding, 32k

[stable basin]

Is it tighter than kefaust or ¿

In my view of running it, I'd say slightly.

Yikes

I’ve seen up to 2nd forsaken so far

[steep iris]

hmm on smn during bahamut phase does it matter if you use your ogcds as soon as possible? (after ruin 2s)

also does rouse affect enkindle

[zinc vortex]

cant comment on 1

but for 2, yes

[torn kindle]

I think if you use them too fast you lose a Wyrmwave

[zinc vortex]

wyrmwave has a 1.5s internal cd iirc

[silent path]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/De-Ms_sSX531Xp-berLRvwQmHTOB8Ifzhe6ZumdKWJ4/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/DfsgGYoXUAECf9K.jpg%3Alarge?width=408&height=474

eyes fell

[steep iris]

is this ultima

10/10

[blazing pelican]

what the fuck

[steep iris]

so does that skinny spot let you bypass that completely

[blazing pelican]

god I hope so

actually I think that's the idea

more of the pixel perfect stuff from UWU Titan

[steep iris]

oof

Im saving this then

[pure yoke]

basically

the simple way you dodge it is

look at Ifrit and Titan

and don't be middle

[torn kindle]

Do I have to move or just look at them? /s

[pure yoke]

well

be south of the ifrits

[heavy mist]

apparently its not that bad

but 🤷 not there yet

just practice

[lyric dawn]

What is the best in slot gear for RDM that gives lots of crit and dh for dps and such ?

[lyric summit]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/15GJW

[lyric dawn]

@lyric summit i have most of that but i heard I need more crit since I onlu do like 4k dps

[dull radish]

nah

[lyric summit]

what weapon are you using?

[dull radish]

secondaries don't make that much a difference

it's more main stat/weapon damage, and especially keeping up a proper rotation in a fight

[lyric summit]

if you're i360+ and doing like 4k then you're doing something wrong in combat, not in gearing

[hybrid rapids]

jump guide incoming

[storm frost]

RDM Guide by Jumpman

Info

https://www.mooglemedia.com/rdm-guide/

[hybrid rapids]

!faq rdmguide

one of the best RDM i like

take his advices will make you good

[lyric dawn]

Hmm. Maybe rotation ?

[dull radish]

it's very likely some rotational issues

[lyric summit]

rotation, opener, uptime, many things can be wrong

[lyric dawn]

Hmmm could.i show you my hotbar / rotation and tell me?

[hybrid rapids]

log

would be better

and ask in balance rdm channel

[lyric dawn]

I'm on ps4 tho

Balance rdm channel?

[lyric summit]

if you do savage then someone probably uploaded a log with you in it at some point

what's your character name

[lyric dawn]

Let me see if someone from my static did

Toffee Frappuccino

[sour solstice]

EU/ Louisoix?

[lyric dawn]

Yup

[lyric summit]

https://invite.gg/thebalanceffxiv

[hybrid rapids]

he's in it already

[sour solstice]

https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/10090928

[lyric summit]

oh

[sour solstice]

uh

well

hmmm

[lyric dawn]

Oh ehm.i am xd

[sour solstice]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/hMcx1t9KLbJfa8YG#fight=6&type=damage-done

this is his best DPS

[lyric dawn]

Shit tier

[sour solstice]

first of all WTF is that SAM

[dull radish]

ok missing some fundamentals right off the bat

[lyric dawn]

Okie

[dull radish]

precast veraero/verthunder on pull with prepull acceleration. You need to weave in oGCD after instant casts, not just use them all at once whenever

[lyric dawn]

Hmm

I do use the ogcd after like an instant cast on the cooldowns 2.5 timer

It might have been wrong doing it

Not sure

[sour solstice]

Jesus christ that clip

[dull radish]

this is very bad

[lyric dawn]

Uhmm

[sour solstice]

you missed a full gcd there

[lyric dawn]

Oh

Where is that

Xd

[dull radish]

on pull

in a run of 5

[lyric dawn]

I'm n9t very familiar with frogs tbing

Fflogs*

[scenic patrol]

For every GCD you have 2 0GCDs to use

[dull radish]

no

[scenic patrol]

Unless casting

[lyric summit]

unless you're casting

[sour solstice]

heres the settings at the top

[scenic patrol]

Or faster GCDs

[sour solstice]

so you can see it

[dull radish]

only after dualcasts

and don't double weave with displacement

[lyric dawn]

@sour solstice on phone ;_; and ps4 only

Hmmm

[dull radish]

you have a big tendency to clip oGCD and double weave cac and disp

along with cancelled casts and such

[lyric dawn]

I'm so confsed

Hmm okie

[lyric summit]

cast -> instant dualcast -> ogcd

repeat

[dull radish]

on adds, no reason to not scatter spam, instead of scatter -> single target GCD

[sour solstice]

scatter> single is only worth on 3

[dull radish]

and try to get enhanced moulinet in

[lyric dawn]

So I cast a thunder or air then dual cast again. ?

Then the sword thingie global cooldowns thing?

I am pretty dumb and doing it wrong I know >_<

[spice comet]

If u mean dual verthunder or veraero, yes 🤔

Not hard cast those

[dull radish]

it's always hardcast -> dualcast, you're doing those ok

[spice comet]

Oh u mean opener

Ignore me 👀

[dull radish]

but you need to use stuff like fleche, contre, dis, cac, after the dualcasted (instant) spell

[lyric dawn]

By hard cast u mean to jolt ii then the air or thudner

[dull radish]

yeah, or proc or impact into those

[spice comet]

Post opener, opener u do hardcast

[dull radish]

on pull it's special, since you can hardcast one of your longer spells

since the cast is prepull

[lyric summit]

jolt > aero > swords > stone/impact > thunder > swords > fire/jolt

[dull radish]

so you hardcast veraero/verthunder instead of jolt

[lyric dawn]

Holf om hokd on

[lyric summit]

or whatever the procs are I haven't touched rdm in 10 years

[lyric dawn]

Hard cast js the normal cast right ?

[dull radish]

yes

[lyric summit]

yes

[lyric dawn]

Okay

[spice comet]

Post opener theres also accel and stuff to boost dps with procs

[lyric dawn]

So i do thst before pull for example

Urghfhfhf fucking rdm v.v

I think i might be dumb xD

[lyric summit]

you can cast the 5s one because no one's attacking anyways yet

[dull radish]

I would strongly suggest as others did before, to read through jump's guide

[lyric summit]

and it hits on pull

[lyric dawn]

@dull radish thing is i get confused as shit reading guides and they put the rotstion in and i csnt understand it one bit

[spice comet]

Example like opener starts -5s->veraero->verthunder->etc

Or idk if u like thunder more switch that

[dull radish]

he goes through and explains everything in the guide

and at the very least, it's a good starting point, and you can ask questions based off of it

[lyric dawn]

Hmm alright

[wet stag]

!whoclasses @wet stag

[storm frost]

Classes for <Faye Midpearl>

Dark Knight

70

Paladin

68

Warrior

70

Ninja

70

Summoner

70

Scholar

70

White Mage

70

Monk

68

Black Mage

70

Astrologian

70

Machinist

67

Bard

70

Dragoon

70

Samurai

70

Red Mage

70

[wet stag]

@sour solstice im so fuckin close lol

[sour solstice]

5 more to go

er

6

[wet stag]

[sour solstice]

wait

7

F

[wet stag]

oh

nah 6 is right

just got mch to 68

hasnt updated yet

[scenic patrol]

So close

You gonna gear em all?

[wet stag]

eventually

maybe with next eureka

[scenic patrol]

I am gonna get 4 jobs I think at BiS

And call it a day

5 at max with PLD

So far I have Warrior and Samurai, Monk and DRK soon

[wet stag]

yeah im calling that 2 sets lol

[scenic patrol]

Funny thing about Samurai

!whoclasses @scenic patrol

[storm frost]

Classes for <Johni Bravo>

Dark Knight

70

Paladin

64

Warrior

70

Ninja

60

Summoner

70

Monk

70

Thaumaturge

3

Astrologian

30

Machinist

60

Archer

26

Dragoon

51

Samurai

52

[wet stag]

if you dont have the weapon its not bis

[scenic patrol]

Got my Monk gear ready for it with Diamond weapon

[wet stag]

lmao

good shit

sam is p fun tbh

[scenic patrol]

It is

But without Positionals it feels braindead

[wet stag]

you get positionals at 52 no?

!action kenki

[storm frost]

**Enpi** : lvl 15 Samurai (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers a ranged attack with a potency of 100. Enhanced Enpi Bonus Potency: 300 Additional Effect: Increases Kenki Gauge by 10

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[scenic patrol]

Yeah

[wet stag]

wait i forget the trait lol

[scenic patrol]

!action Kaiten

[storm frost]

**Katon** : lvl 35 Ninja (20 second cooldown)

Delivers fire damage with a potency of 250 to target and all enemies nearby it.
Mudra Combination: Chi→Ten or Jin→Ten

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[scenic patrol]

[wet stag]

!action kenki mastery

[storm frost]

**Kenki Mastery** : lvl 52 Samurai (None second cooldown)

Increases Kenki Gauge when landing select weaponskills.

[scenic patrol]

Forgot the 52 level skill

[wet stag]

is what i wanted

!action hissatsu: kaiten

[storm frost]

**Hissatsu: Kaiten** : lvl 52 Samurai (5 second cooldown)

Increases potency of next weaponskill by 50%.
Duration: 10s
Kenki Gauge Cost: 20

[scenic patrol]

Yeah

Aka Banana enhancement

[wet stag]

i need to play more monk tbh

bc ive only tried rof twice

[scenic patrol]

It's like IR

[wet stag]

!action riddle of fire

[storm frost]

**Riddle Of Fire** : lvl 68 Monk (90 second cooldown)

Increases damage dealt by 30% while increasing weaponskill recast time by 15%. Also grants Fists of Fire.
Duration: 20s
Riddle of Fire is canceled if Fists of Fire ends.

[wet stag]

hm ok

will play around with it more

[scenic patrol]

Learned the opener yet?

[wet stag]

nah

since i didnt have rof yet

and i had to log immediately after the doma castle run

[scenic patrol]

Opener can be learned from 60

[wet stag]

so havent had practice

[scenic patrol]

[wet stag]

!faq mnkguide

[storm frost]

Tiffany's 4.X MNK Guide

Info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10bGbxDogNxijYg_8OIp8XHaPR0tBCjXGhlv-j3dhWMc/

[scenic patrol]

There's not much change between 60-70

RoF and BH just spice things up

[wet stag]

i wanted to wait for rof first

bh is whatever

anyway

bedtime

[scenic patrol]

See ya

[unreal flax]

Best $7 I've spent on this game. Time to be a stray cat all over the world.

[sour solstice]

I thought you were a Highlander

[scenic patrol]

He swaps a lot

Like a lot

[unreal flax]

I was a midlander uh... a week ago. I've actually never been a highlander.

[sour solstice]

Ah

[scenic patrol]

Oh really

[unreal flax]

But yeah. A lot. D:

[scenic patrol]

It's time

To be thicclander

[unreal flax]

I created and saved one, so I could definitely do it.

[scenic patrol]

!myglamour

[storm frost]

Glamour for Johni Bravo of Odin

[scenic patrol]

[unreal flax]

But, they don't curl up on the plush cushion minion lol

[scenic patrol]

!lodestone Jenova Joxepa Valtin

[storm frost]

Joxepa Valtin, Raubahn's Left Arm

Hyur, Highlander
Level 70 Dark Knight [Item Level 299]
<Tight Pants Alliance> on Jenova

[zinc vortex]

why do female highlanders look like 15 year old boys that brag about going to the gym twice a week

[stable basin]

thats mean

i dont think mine looks like that

[sullen sable]

That's a tall 15 yo

[signal mortar]

@regal halo sorry for pinging you, but i have a question: what does the jp players (particularly from 2chan) think abt the limit to ultimate contents stated by yoshi-p?

[regal halo]

Need to check around

please hold on

[signal mortar]

its okay, take your time!

[regal halo]

Got into an argument or something?

[sour solstice]

please look forward to it

[signal mortar]

ah no, i'm just curious on what the jp side says

it's been heavily discussed on my twitter tl so i wanna see if jp players reacted the same

[regal halo]

If you don't mind me going through a clusterfuck of threads that is

http://egg.5ch.net/ffo/

Hmmmm

@signal mortar Nope. Sorry, can't find it now, will have to wait a bit until there is another summary topic coming up

[sour solstice]

Id imagine they are disappointed

Then again I know very little about their culture

[scenic patrol]

A lot of the hardcore raiders seem very disappointed

Now

Especially raiders that like prog over speed

[regal halo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/8rduy2/a_word_from_a_japanese_raider_dear_players_who/

[lyric summit]

So, when that happens, you'd then see someone posting questions like this on your chat window. " Hey, xx, why did you die during that mechanic just now?"

i wish

[steep iris]

is it really that bad?

i ask my static why we wiped when im unsure what happened

and nobody has issues with me asking why

🤔

[pine beacon]

Certainly in NA. And even moreso in PuGs

That question isn't usually genuine, and is more often a passive aggressive callout

[boreal edge]

idk why i got downvoted but whatever

[scenic patrol]

I outright take the blame if I cause a wipe

I dunno why people are too prideful to do that

[boreal edge]

there is no "my static had me go to C when you are asked to go B"

in a pug

you should be adaptable

[scenic patrol]

I don't pug

[boreal edge]

i did o8s with all kinds of unholy ways

[last galleon]

i pugged this entire tier and i've not had anyone really blow up. the major thing i see is mostly people not knowing what killed them, not owing up to it, and people just silently disbanding after a while.

[boreal edge]

from. post standpoint

the player is ranger

and he is standing at east side of 2nd forsaken

while his static has him go west side

idk whats the different

u gonna handle the mech the same way as in that pug

but no i wiped you

cause my static asked me to go west

and reddit ppl arent better

brilliant post

wtf

[unreal flax]

My favorite death so far: getting hit by three inks in O7S. BRD and WAR didn't get to their safe spots in time so I took three and they each took two.

[scenic patrol]

Did someone say SERVER TICKS?

[unreal flax]

I was wrong. It was the SCH and PLD that rekt me.

[sour solstice]

its part of FFlogs

[unreal flax]

It's not 100% accurate, but it's a pretty good visualization.

[boreal edge]

that replay is what made me see

our o3s 3k hp enrage wipe

[unreal flax]

AHHHHHHHH

[boreal edge]

just 1 fkn gcd was our thought

[unreal flax]

Man, thinking back, I've never seen Neo Exdeath's enrage actually go off.

[blissful solstice]

It's pretty cool

[heavy mist]

yeh its pretty cool

soft enrage into enrage

[unreal flax]

I've definitely seen his enrage casting, but I don't think I've ever seen it explode and kill us.

[hot plover]

Which class is easier to play
MNK or DRG?

[heavy mist]

i wanna say DRG, but havent learned mnk yet

[unreal flax]

Easier to play? MNK, probably. Only one skill with any form of animation lock, so you can maneuver around and not have to worry about an AoE killing you while you do most things. DRG has to plan certain skills. HOWEVER, DRG is less punishing than MNK when it comes to actually doing good damage.

Also, DRG is trash until 70. MNK works fine at 50.

[hot plover]

Hmm, I find MNK to be pretty weird to play but I rarely know the rotation

whereas DRG seems straightforward cause the proc rotation

[unreal flax]

MNK is a tiny bit better because you're only dealing with six GCDs vs ten.

Just keep in mind

[hot plover]

tiny bit better in terms of DPS?

or just overall

[unreal flax]

I'm talking about a beginner level

[hot plover]

oh I know personal DPS MNK is better for sure

[unreal flax]

When it comes to actually raiding and doing real damage in like... Savage content, MNK is MUCH harder than DRG.

[hot plover]

that's what i think, having to keep up stacks/greased lightning/etc

[unreal flax]

Right

[hot plover]

unless it's o6s.

that's DPS city

[unreal flax]

If you just want something to fuck around with, I'd go MNK because it's fun and easy. If you want to pick a main and be serious about it, DRG is easier

[hot plover]

decisions, decisions

was thinking of NIN but ping sucks

[heavy mist]

vpn

[hot plover]

tru

[unreal flax]

Alternatively, you could move to the best coast

[paper torrent]

WEST COAST BEST COAST

[sour solstice]

Same

east coast is for DotA players

[scenic patrol]

Monk is cozy

Also shares gear with SAM

[hot plover]

yeah it does, so if i ever wanted to play SAM for the funsies i could always switch it up.

i hate how DRG doesn't share gear

[scenic patrol]

It shares accessories, so there's that

At least

[sour solstice]

anyone got the timestamped mechanics list for O5-8s?

[unreal flax]

I only have O5 and O8

[sour solstice]

I just found 5

[unreal flax]

And for O8, I only have Kefka.

[sour solstice]

I know I've seen a 7 one floating around

[wet stag]

@sour solstice tank gen has it pinned

[sour solstice]

thanks

[hexed meteor]

Oh they have most of it

also dis

@sour solstice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427684029131653130/427684182374875136/DV0xQUWU8AA4cWu.png

[sour solstice]

thanks

[hexed meteor]

err its a lot will dm you some info I have

[scenic patrol]

I have a timeline for act for O7S

[unreal flax]

Man, I was so excited to get my pants this week. Can't get 'em for two more weeks.

[scenic patrol]

Wanna know funny thing Brit?

My DRG got his pants just as he got his 8th page

After getting weaves

It was like our 12th Guardian clear

[unreal flax]

lmao

I'm hoping the DRG pants drop so I can use my pages on NIN

[scenic patrol]

I've spent very little amount of pages to get my Monk BiS

So nice

[unreal flax]

That's dope.

[scenic patrol]

Just need the weapon

And I got the Katana

This week

So I am BiS SAM when I get it to 70

[unreal flax]

lol

Man got a level 50 SAM that's BiS lol

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/AKcTHZ3bRQkjN4Gv#fight=1&type=auras&sourceclass=Any&ability=1000829

UGH SO CUTE

[silver kindle]

you guys ready for a 15 month break in ultimate content

[rigid wolf]

Just a question. What is the best materia for a SAM for savage?

[wet stag]

depends on if youre running slowsam or fastsam

ultraspeedy sam is technically best but up to you

if you wanna go slower meld crit

if you wanna go faster meld sks

[rigid wolf]

So Sks and DH?

[wet stag]

i guess

[rigid wolf]

😭 shit "I guess" is the best response I been getting lol

[wet stag]

i mean

are you bis yet

@rigid wolf

[steady pebble]

also, honestly, materia (outside of vit really) isn't that make or break

unless you're melding like dex or something silly like that

going crit, direct hit, or skill speed

is fine

[wet stag]

you dps wont magically go up by 500 depending on what materia you meld

it'll go up by 50 ish at most

which honestly isnt significant

[rigid wolf]

Yeah I am BIS I just wanted to know suggestion SAM isn't my main so I thought i'd ask people who know'd more about what would be best on them

[wet stag]

join the balance

and check bis pins

[rigid wolf]

the balance?

[wet stag]

https://invite.gg/thebalanceffxiv

ffxiv autists united

[rigid wolf]

lol

[blazing pelican]

don't jealous cause you can't do math Faye

[sour solstice]

Faye is among the autists

[wet stag]

i'll have you know i consistently get 4 stacks on construct 7

[blazing pelican]

are those stacks green or red

[sour solstice]

you cant get 4 red stacks

[wet stag]

are red stacks a thing

[sour solstice]

yes

[wet stag]

i legit didnt know lmfao

[blazing pelican]

they're the wrong answer stacks

[sour solstice]

the damage taken up

from fucking it up

2 stacks is death for most DPS

even at full hp

[blazing pelican]

Construct 7 (Savage)
Full multiplication table up to 12

Solve

[wet stag]

lol

ezpz

[sour solstice]

multiplication table up to 12 is so ez tho

[wet stag]

more like

construct 7 savage

find the cube root of 328509

in 10s

[blazing pelican]

69

kek

rounded up is 70

[wet stag]

nice calculator

[wet stag]

nerd

[blazing pelican]

it's google >_>

[wet stag]

you know its actually possible

to find the cube root of a 6 digit number assiming its a perfect cube in 10 seconds

[unreal flax]

Fml

I don’t know what that is.

[uncut charm]

The real construct 7 savage is when the boss cast indivisible but without the subtract status

So u figure out if your HP is a prime number or not and adjust

Prime factorization on the fly

[blazing pelican]

I can only do up to divide by 6 in my head

and primes are fucking weird once you get to a certain point

divide by 2 is easy, just check if it's even

divide by 3, is just add up all the digits in the number and see if they divide by 3

divide by 4 means the number needs to divide by 2, twice

dividing by 5 is obvious

dividing by 6 means the number needs to obey the divide by 3 rule and be even

[wet stag]

divide by 4 is the last 2 digits need to be divisible my 4

divide by 7 is some weird fuckery

divide by 8 is last 3 digits need to be divisible by 8

divide by 9 is all digits added up need to be divisible by 9

[blazing pelican]

divide by 8 the number needs to divide by 2, 3 times

[wet stag]

divide by 10

[frosty stag]

when you learn math while playing ffxiv

[wet stag]

divide by 11 is difference between the sum of the even digits and the sum of the odd digits needs to be divisible by 11 or is 0

thats all i got so far

most composite numbers are pretty comfy

[blazing pelican]

12 is the same rules as 6, just expanded to include an additional 2

so it needs to add up to a number divisible by 3, and also divide by 2, twice

[wet stag]

yeah but yen

how do you know if its divisible by 2 the second time

without actually dividing the number

[blazing pelican]

do math in your head or buy an abacus

[wet stag]

or

you can just see if the last 2 digits is divisble by 4

ezpz

[blazing pelican]

yes because I totally have the table memorized for up to times 24 for 4

[wet stag]

if you want an easier ish method

if the digit in the ones place is 0, 4 or 8 while the digit in the 10s place is even

[blazing pelican]

or you could not be silly and just divide by 2 the first time. if it's divisible by 4 your answer should be even

[wet stag]

or if the digit in the ones place is 2,6 if the digit in the 10s place is odd

yeah good luck dividing ur hp by 2 in 10 seconds while doing your rotation in contrust 7 savage

[vital cypress]

Does triple ranged cause any weirdness in sigmascape, besides meaning that people have to check their debuff bar during virus?

[dull radish]

no, you don't even have to check your debuff bar, since everything is baited by range

so you just purposely put someone in melee range for virus and for starstrafe on god kefka

[vital cypress]

even better

[tawdry matrix]

@wet stag What you said about devisible by 9 is digital root

Now you know it

[wet stag]

i know

[tawdry matrix]

Now you know it better then

[wet stag]

i played 999 too

[vital cypress]

I'm trying to decide if it would be worth futzing around for a BRD/MCH in place of one of our melees

[wet stag]

[vital cypress]

which would leave us with the oddball triple-ranged comp

or if I should just double down on Fuck The Meta™

(or I could switch to BRD/MCH but I'd really rather not, since I struggle with JOHN MADDEN jobs)

[dull radish]

triple ranged is perfectly fine

[vital cypress]

Or maybe I'm thinking about this backwards: how bad is not having a BRD (or MCH I guess) in, like, O8S prog

[lyric summit]

just make sure you have dragoon or garuda

[vital cypress]

the biggest snags seem to be not having the semi-passive crit buff and not having Refresh

[lyric summit]

but if you have two casters then you have 2 manashifts

[vital cypress]

yes

[scenic patrol]

Not having Refresh for healers

Will make things tough

1 refresh is worth like 8 mana shifts

Or 6

Something along those lines

[glossy musk]

Pretty much it means much lower healer DPS

You can totally live without refresh if you’re not DPSing, as that’s where you spend around 80% or more of your MP

[dull radish]

yeah, like double mana shift gets you by and such, but you can't go all out with dps like if you had single or especially double refresh

[vital cypress]

everythign i'm seeing is that you absolutely need BRD/MCH

which is presumably why every static has a 3-3.5k BRD that sneaks in

[dull radish]

you don't

[glossy musk]

It’s not necessary but it’s extremely helpful

[dull radish]

it'svery unfortunate to not have a BRD/MCH

but you can get by

[glossy musk]

Like I said the main mana cost is your DPS and no raid outside ultimate requires healer DPS

So just don’t

And you’ll be gucci

[vital cypress]

i mean the snag is that we'd be trading a mediocre i370 SMN for a bad i360 BRD

[glossy musk]

Ouch

[vital cypress]

so that's probably 1500 DPS there, if not more

which is why I'm trying to sidestep it

[sour solstice]

just tell your healers to bind Break

free dps

[stable basin]

Estelle, that depends

is the SMN or the BRD the player you want to have with you for hours a night for usually 2+ nights a week?

and do you want to take 2-3 weeks to clear something with people you like or 1 with people you hate?

honestly, for me, I could never go for the 'one week with people you can't stand' option lol

if you wanted that, you might as well just pug :p

like, the basic point of having a static is to clear content with people you actually want to have around you while you clear content

otherwise it's not gonna be fun, and if it isn't fun, why are you raiding to begin with this shit gets stressful as it is

[scenic patrol]

Estelle is the SMN/BRD

...

[sour solstice]

[regal halo]

Estelle, Wandering Dramaturge - 昨日 午後11時9分
Or maybe I'm thinking about this backwards: how bad is not having a BRD (or MCH I guess) in, like, O8S prog

Doesn't matter. Because what jobs you chose isn't the issue. It's the skill.

[vital cypress]

hmm

oh, right, yes

[steep iris]

I'm gonna say tho

as a healer no bard in 8s is sad life

my first clear was like, 15% at sub 1k dps rofl

[sour solstice]

break

[steep iris]

I use all my role actions

sure i could replace surecast but honestly i dont wanna deal with more shit during 3rd/4th forsaken

[sour solstice]

fair enough

just replace swift and tell whoever died to eat your ass

[paper torrent]

replacing swift

No

Stop right there heretic

[sour solstice]

make me bitch