endgame-lounge

[unreal flax]

Yeah

[sour solstice]

but optimizing that one Sen consumer

thats the hard shit

[opal hollow]

yeah

it just feels like it's infinitely easier to shit out damage as blm

which makes sense

[kindred breach]

Are there ice sprites in Eureka?

[sour solstice]

should be

[stable basin]

Yes during the snow weather

[kindred breach]

Anyone have an idea where they would be? Haven't seen one.

[stable basin]

Sprites always need the correct weather iirc

[sour solstice]

!faq Anemosmap

[storm frost]

Eureka Anemos Map

Info

https://i.imgur.com/Y4XnXKo.png

[sour solstice]

there they are

[kindred breach]

I've only seen water & wind.

[stable basin]

Also the challenge log makes daywalker Rider and Tom super common now

At least I'm pretty sure that's the reason

[kind schooner]

Drg in dungeons/open world: Easy peazy, I sleep
Drg in raids: Oh god I got hit by that aoe because I was too busy looking at timers and now I just refreshed heavy strike instead of doing WT+F&C and now my LotD window is screwed and I just dragon sighted the healer

[scenic patrol]

It might be the correct choice to dragon sight the Healer

[high ether]

DRK in dungeons: I sleep
DRK in raids: I used Dark Mind for the tankbuster because I thought it would be magic damage but it was melee damage

[shadow pollen]

Raiding is so much more stressful

That's why I MNK in raids

[high ether]

I prefer tanking or healing in raids

when I play dps I tend to tunnel vision so hard I mess up mechanics

[scenic patrol]

I practice my jobs hard enough that the rotation becomes second nature

But that is only for my main

Which is Warrior right now

Gonna need to expand my horizons before next tier

To have more options for groups

The options that I think of are WAR/DRK/MNK/DRG/SMN and I guess PLD

For next tier/UwU

[high ether]

as SCH it's less micromanaging a pet and more having three extra cooldowns that ignore the GCD entirely

[heavy mist]

i have NIN, but i dun wanna raid with it....

😦

[scenic patrol]

I can teach you

IB

But not really

[boreal edge]

someone i know said

[scenic patrol]

!whologs @scenic patrol

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo of Odin

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (736/14723) [4581.24 DPS] [95.9 Historical] [7:19]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2082/13882) [4694.88 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:17]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (2053/10265) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [10:18]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (799/7997) [4263.66 DPS] [91.4 Historical] [6:25]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (202/5923) [4760 DPS] [95.8 Historical] [9:49]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[boreal edge]

war rot is easier than pld

[scenic patrol]

It's priority based vs fixed rotation

[boreal edge]

pld rot is all about how to keep FoF and requiscat on CD always

[scenic patrol]

It's very rigid

[boreal edge]

use sheltron to get mp

than to mitigate

u wont get all mp back before next requiscat

must at least drop 1 sheltron

[sour solstice]

@wet stag

hows this for a first time playing 70 DRK

[steep iris]

1 min 🤔

[sour solstice]

Decisive battle forces a phase change

[steep iris]

smells like burst window

[sour solstice]

from my ACT

my overall was uh

lemme find it

wheres the setting to increase the delay for ending combat?

overall was 3.4k

[steep iris]

o

that's respectable

[sour solstice]

id post the rest but my ACT crashed after the settings change

[steep iris]

better than my pld parse in 6s

[sour solstice]

ngl I clipped my gcd way too often by targeting mt with tbn and forgetting to retarget the boss

[steep iris]

https://compa.s-ul.eu/X1HD0wHj.png

probably this?

[scenic patrol]

Just use a macro then

[sour solstice]

whats a good time? 30s?

[opal hollow]

What's pld DPS like

Compared to drk

[scenic patrol]

Same

[steep iris]

same/a bit lower iirc

[sour solstice]

slightly higher IIRC

[opal hollow]

I've seen some pretty good numbers from them

[sour solstice]

very slightly

[steep iris]

o was it higher?

[scenic patrol]

Yeah

By a bit

[paper torrent]

PLD dps is slightly higher than drk

[scenic patrol]

Nothing that matters

[steep iris]

wow back to drk suck

[paper torrent]

it's so miniscule

[steep iris]

jk jk

[sour solstice]

DRK is like

really intense to play

even in something as brain dead easy to fight as normal exdad

[scenic patrol]

Amusing to see you going against the hive mind

[sour solstice]

wat

[steep iris]

drk at least can pop more cooldowns now

though it doesn't matter cause the majority of drks don't

[opal hollow]

I kinda wish tbn wasn't damage neutral

Should be damage positive

[sour solstice]

nah

[opal hollow]

I wanna eat shit on purpose LOL

[sour solstice]

I dont think it should be

[scenic patrol]

Would make the job wonky as shit

Especially on the min max front

[opal hollow]

Tru

[sour solstice]

time to run Raba on DRK

[heavy mist]

at least DRK has a gap closer 🤔

im glad for that

[sturdy shell]

that's my main gripe with pld

no gap closer

[vital bolt]

Will likely be what they get in 5.0

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/709/076/eb3.gif

[sour solstice]

WAR's is so

cant use it to start fights

[full wave]

Does anyone actually use it for a gap closer or just for damage

[sour solstice]

actually it gets a lot of use as an anti-knockback cheese

[paper torrent]

usually anti kb cheese

damage never hurts too

[sour solstice]

99% of it is probably anti-kb and damage during IR or to balance your gauge

[scenic patrol]

Onslaught?

[sour solstice]

yeah

[scenic patrol]

Plenty of usage

One of my favorite gap closers

Fixing gauge, keeping uptime, squeezing extra damage

Plenty of stuff

And unlike other gap closers

You don't need to hit it on CD

[sour solstice]

hitting it on CD is pretty

like its just so awkward with your gauge management

[scenic patrol]

It fucks up with the natural gauge line up

[sour solstice]

I guess it would be better than never hitting it at all

[scenic patrol]

I prefer Onslaught over other gap closers

Since other gap closers aren't tied to resources

So you need to hold them for mechs

If they are actually needed

[vital bolt]

Being able to go back in quickly after an AoE is finished is nice

[scenic patrol]

Eh, you can just use sprint and dance on the edge

That's not something I would use Onslaught for

Most AOEs aren't big enough to warrant Onslaught

[blissful solstice]

@vital bolt A++ reference there

[vague anchor]

Bah

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/8pnzif/gamerscape_wiki_permanently_going_down/ lol

such a fail thread

[silent path]

that ddos part tho

[vague anchor]

.<

[silent path]

yeah I have that thing everytime I try to enter GE tho

[vague anchor]

yea, site's been down (essentially) all day

annoying as fuck

[silent path]

sometimes it gets insta

other'stake a time for the ddos protection

🤷

[vital bolt]

So who has such a grudge with it to constantly Ddos them?

[vague anchor]

My guess is whatever dickhole hacked us back a few years ago, being salty we didn't pay their ransom

[silent path]

i still dk where are the weeb avatar's I requested

but okay

:^)

[vague anchor]

people who use ransomware can go diaf ><

also, I totally thought this was general chat when I posted that link >.> my bad

[silent path]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfOcoVGU0AAlnjS.jpg

someone posted this like 30 mins ago

but it seems it was a different one

i'm so confused

🤔

[heavy mist]

its just the lahabrea LB add

but with the enmity marker on D

👌

[silent path]

topkek

so he appears again

before ultima and during ?

[heavy mist]

? who knows 🤷

[silent path]

🤷

[unique wolf]

proggers

[silent path]

btw @vague anchor

is the ddos reason that there is no /gamerescape anymore ?

i remember discord had a GE command

[vague anchor]

nah

the /gamerescape command caused its own issues once some retards got hold of it and started spamming bullshit searches

[silent path]

oh

[vague anchor]

since they have the IQ of a gnat and saw it as being a /gamer search, so they searched for all sorts of shit. Porn, gamefaqs, food orders..

was pretty stupid.

[silent path]

wtf

[vague anchor]

yea

[silent path]

people are dumb af

lol

[vague anchor]

they really are, lol

[silent path]

jesus christ

xD

[vague anchor]

didn't help that every letter they typed would query the database/API for results, so thousands of idiots doing that per minute = wtf why did the server explode

the ongoing issues right now are something completely unrelated to Discord

[stable basin]

I'm meanwhile wondering if these 1/1/6 parties for Moon Bunny are going to stay niche or become the norm anytime soon

(my guess is they'll be the norm unsync at 80 like with zurvan, but i'm not sure about 70)

or if they'll be "stuff PUGs frequently try, but shouldn't"

(like the 1/1/6 lakshmi parties shiver)

[torn kindle]

solo tank for Tsuku? do you just have enough DPS to push past the tank buster or something?

[lyric summit]

yeah, i've seen soloheals but there's a tankswap

[hybrid rapids]

you can skip tank buster

and skip moonphase

then kill it shortly or before final phase

top parser group can kill her shortly after first moonphase

that's like skipping 40~50% of the whole fight

[unique wolf]

speedrunning primals

[torn kindle]

Skip Soar

[unique wolf]

skipping soar just required you to be able to do an opener

[torn kindle]

Expecting PF to know what an opener is
;-;

[unique wolf]

killing the boss after 1st moon phase requires an actual comp and good players

[stable basin]

yeah, a good example is skipping meteors on zurvan

[prime pivot]

There's no such thing as good players in pf

[stable basin]

to do that with an average pug you need 6-DPS comp and i330 required, generally

[torn kindle]

i330??

Hope you mean i360

[unique wolf]

wut

zurvan is like i270 isn't it

[torn kindle]

I'm confused now

between tsuku and zurvan

Both of them being EZ-mode if you can push the deeps and push the phases

[unique wolf]

zurvan is i240 actually

[torn kindle]

Zurvan was 3.5

so i260

probably

[hybrid rapids]

tiff

teach

your titan

rock strat

lmao

[stable basin]

zurvan has a very specific mechanic skipping which substantially increases the success rate in PUGs

specifically the meteors, I've seen unsync groups with 70/i330 and six dps kill before or just as the meteors are arriving, while below that you can run into trouble (because so few pugs do meteors correctly, and the more used people get to the speed runs the fewer do)

[torn kindle]

It's a simple math equation; the higher number of mechanics the fight has, the lower success rate PF will have.

[indigo kraken]

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I got all the sigmascape gear. I'm stuck at gear LVL 349 with the gear I have, what should I do?

[torn kindle]

That's why PF still can't handle T9

[indigo kraken]

Whats the command to display your character profile again..

uhhh

[torn kindle]

You can start doing Ridorana for i360 gear and start spending mendacity on equipment

[indigo kraken]

Ridorana

?

[stable basin]

eh, T9 isn't that bad in PF

[torn kindle]

24-man after Rabanastre

[stable basin]

I've tanked it with a 5-man group before

[indigo kraken]

oh shit

thats 360?

i didnt realise

[torn kindle]

yep

[indigo kraken]

i'll do that

[stable basin]

note that only the mendacity 360 gear is upgradable

the ridorana gear and the augmented crafted gear will remain 360 forever

[indigo kraken]

Im not concerned with committing to the ridorana gear

I just want to get to the suitable item LVL for doing sigmascape savage and tsukuyomi ballad

I can reach savage 1 to the hard enrage, my practice team's item lvl was too low to make a impactful DPS is all

While I'm on the subject of savage though, what should I do for looking for poeple in completing the Savage runs? I'll be considered a first timer by the game, and most people want those who've cleared.

[stable basin]

people are usually pretty willing to go to learning pfs for savage

main thing is don't expect to get anything more than the page from your first clear

tbh, don't expect to get anything more than the page any week, I've come up dry both of my last two 2-chest runs

[steep iris]

barely got anything from pugs

[stable basin]

I know one SAM who was lead for one of my weeklies who apparently had gone three months without even seeing a single Slaying accessory drop, let alone winning it

[unique wolf]

we actually dont even have a strat now really

we just yell 1 2 3

use our brains

[stable basin]

also anyone got any idea what's up with the caster chestpiece from Swallow's?

when you preview it in the fitting room you get this cool bat wing stuff

but apparently the actual item doesn't seem to be showing them

[subtle socket]

Depends how long your gloves are i believe, if theyre too long they get covered

[wet stag]

because you have long gloves on

[vital bolt]

Like how if your pants has belts or accessories hanging off it, it will disppear depending on what body piece you use

Or body pieces eating skirts

[wet stag]

https://i.imgur.com/UqbgA5P.png

[sour solstice]

[hybrid rapids]

tfw even you wiped 4 times in garuda

also won't see lahabread

[wet stag]

tsun

hi

fun fact rampart covers first mistral song and downburst

[hybrid rapids]

what's mistral song again?

[wet stag]

green marker

[hybrid rapids]

MT doing it?

[wet stag]

idk lol thats how i did it when i was fucking around

[hybrid rapids]

rampart isn't enough

lmao

no

have ST do it

[wet stag]

yeah

[hybrid rapids]

you need CD later

[wet stag]

hits for what, 80k unmitigated?

90k?

[hybrid rapids]

idk

my group use benis + apoc

not even using cd

[wet stag]

yeah but i think i'll be ST

oh

hm

[hybrid rapids]

or if sch adlo deploy start

you can face tank it with apoc

ask for a minne

because what important isn't mistral song

but the stupid ball

lmao

it hits 65k unmitigated

[wet stag]

oh

[hybrid rapids]

on tank

[wet stag]

do you know if its magic?

[hybrid rapids]

it's magic

[wet stag]

nice

[hybrid rapids]

it hits butt hurt

[wet stag]

im thinking

[hybrid rapids]

then next is literally 2nd mistral song

wait

ya, 2nd mistral song

[wet stag]

if i dm first mistral, i can sw cyclone and dm 2nd mistral

with rampart for cyclone and 2nd mistral

and tbn for both

[hybrid rapids]

that work too

as long as you are staying alive

[frosty stag]

[sour solstice]

[frosty stag]

now i just want to do uwu more

[blazing pelican]

now I can't wait for monday >_>

[sour solstice]

Today we find out if the "day 5 WF" prophets were right

I dont think they were but

today is the day

[boreal edge]

day 5 wf?

[lyric summit]

world first

[sour solstice]

A couple people were saying it was gonna be a day 5 world first

[boreal edge]

be4 it released?

[sour solstice]

its day 5, lets see if they were right

partly before, partly after

[wet stag]

i really doubt it

seeing as how no one has seen airborne yet

[sour solstice]

Im in the same camp

Happy said someone saw Suppression

but thats the furthest I think

[tawny swallow]

i've seen a couple people wearing the yotsuyu dress lately,

I know its a mod and all but whats the dress actually called

because I can't find it at all

in databases that is

[normal mesa]

its not called ANYTHING, they just find her clothes values

its just numbers.

until they added the doman liege xyz stuff, hien's didn't have a name either.

[tawny swallow]

Oh

[stable basin]

It's just refreshing to see content that isn't crushed that quickly in MMOs

You almost never do anymore, the only other ones I've even seen in the past year or so that have lasted even a few days are UCOB and Mythic Kil'jaeden

practically everything else has normally been first day'd by someone or other

[glossy musk]

Yup

And mythic KJ was just overtuned as fuck

[stable basin]

Yeah you were expected to gear through the earlier bosses to be able to take him on

[sour solstice]

Mythic KJ was also super bugged wasnt he

[stable basin]

The last time XIV dared to do something like that was ... Gordias Savage I think?

... and there's a reason xiv doesn't play at that anymore, mostly named "gordias savage"

Heh, that's almost every WoW boss on release. God knows why.

XIV - doesn't release anything in advance, often not even any information, stuff generally comes out reasonably okay
WoW - tests stuff pre-release to death to the point the content isn't even new when it actually goes live, more bugs than a Gnath hive

[scenic patrol]

Gear isn't as major as a roadblock here anymore

Which is nice

[glossy musk]

One of the big problem with gear gating in this game is we only have 4 bosses

It’s not like you can go and farm 12 bosses

[scenic patrol]

It's artificially postponing world first

In FF

And somewhat RNG locked

[stable basin]

I'm still wondering just what's glitched in UWU though

[scenic patrol]

Since getting upgrades week one is RNG

[stable basin]

Someone told me that in addition to a hotfix for Greed Only there's going to be one for a glitch in UWU

But I'm not even sure how I'd even know a glitch there from one of the intended fuck yous, LOL

[scenic patrol]

Rumors

[stable basin]

Last time I've even seen an RPG boss with such wonky mechanics was Shin Megami Tensei superbosses

[lusty oak]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainInventivePlumberMrDestructoid

NANI KORE

[stable basin]

Arthars is an namazu.

[vital cypress]

what job do you play 👀

oh

rip

i was going to say, my static had people missing earlier this week so we're clearing it tonight, but we have a dedicated SMN (namely me)

[steep iris]

nani

[zinc vortex]

what the fuck

is suppression

JESUS

[sour solstice]

god damn

that move is crazy

[unreal flax]

lmao

That's cute

[topaz wolf]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/kMAJTPDcBgqWYFfL#fight=6&type=damage-done

finally did it

and in kefaust out of all fights

sweet revenge

[heavy mist]

👌

[stable basin]

C'mon Estelle you know you'd rather BLM it xD

[blissful solstice]

BLM is so bad it makes me sad

[sour solstice]

wat

BLM is good wtf you smokin

[dull radish]

BLM is good times <3 big explosion, crits, just mmm <3

[heavy mist]

we like BLM if u good

[sour solstice]

if people would turn Rika away due to the fact that Rika is a BLM they dont deserve someone as good as Rika

[topaz wolf]

every time im forced to clip something

i cringe]

[topaz wolf]

you dont use swiftcast to weave

you weave during gcds

swiftcast is used for movement

after fire 3/b3 you have a short window to weave something in

[dull radish]

triple is cozy weaving <3

B3/F3, triple, proc

unless you have a strong reason to use it earlier

[lament dawn]

Anyone know how much HP a healer and DPS need to easily survive UwU? Asking because one of the healers in my party had 41k hp and still got oneshot by certain aoes even when topped and shielded.

[dull radish]

uh you want more

full VIT melds

with food

[stable basin]

I'm not sure anyone knows enough about UWU to be sure yet tbh

[dull radish]

yeah we do

stuff hits hard

no reason to not go full VIT

with food

[full wave]

Dps checks aren't so severe that you need the extra damage sub stats.

[heavy mist]

that we know of at least

and most likely wont need em 😃

[silent path]

lahabreah just keeps having letters on front of his name hum

last time i saw was a D

now was a K

[dull radish]

lahabread is best lahabrea meme

[sullen sable]

[stable basin]

When someone clears they'll say it was a lahabreaz

[silent path]

xD

rika speaking of memes 😮

wasn't aware rika was a fan of memes

👀

[sullen sable]

rika's from leviathan

tempered by memes

[blissful solstice]

Lahabread is an a++ meme

[dull radish]

it's very wholesome meme, like freshly baked homemade bread

[silent path]

the next ultimate is going to be warring triad

dodge soar while hiding behind sephiroth while getting get knocback by sophia

:^) :^)

[dull radish]

I want alexander ultimate

there's so much they could do

it'd be so bad but so amazing <3

[silent path]

oh I think for sure

they will add ultimate

for sure

and at a later time all omega stuff

exdeath kefka and someone else x)

[grizzled seal]

alex ultimate sounds amazing

[dull radish]

it really does <3

there's a lot of bs that would surely come with it, with nisi and A6S robots and everything

but it'd be so over the top haha

[grizzled seal]

aslong as they don't bring back the gobcart from a2s everything is fine

or timegates 😔

[dull radish]

there'd probably be some galaxy brain level thing with timegates

where you directly influence what happens at some point later in the fight

depending on what you do in the timegate

[grizzled seal]

damn

that could be super sweet, depending on how they do it

[dull radish]

yeah

I honestly really like how they've done this ultimate, with putting layers of doing the fight, figuring out how to not just get past, but do it "correctly"

kinda wish there weren't quartets as part of it but

I kinda hope we see more of it for future ultimate fights

[silent path]

tbh

[grizzled seal]

quartets? haven't followed uwu too much

[silent path]

I think since last patch is the most like the last tier

[grizzled seal]

the awoken mechanic does seem pretty cool

[silent path]

i don't think we will get other FF reference

we will probally fight omega so

no sephiroth for no1 u fanbois

[grizzled seal]

also they also put a lot of work in the visual effects and atmosphere again, absolutely stunning from what little i saw

[high ether]

i expect sephiroth for o11

the penultimate fight is always special

[silent path]

but that's the thing like

[high ether]

coil had phoenix, alex had cruise chaser

[silent path]

omega wasn't even on FF7

he appeared on dirge of cereberus that's it

cerberus*

[dull radish]

quartets are like the trios were on bahamut, just that there are 4 actors now

[silent path]

and evne there he appeared to say hello

and died lol

[grizzled seal]

oh i see

[dull radish]

imagine the chaos with like

all the awoken mechanics of the primals

[grizzled seal]

so garuda, titan, ifrit chain stuff with ultima in later phases?

[dull radish]

all at once

yeah

[grizzled seal]

ahh

[dull radish]

it's crazy haha

[silent path]

you know what would be funni

if in the end he would get some kind of weird power

and get 100% again

:^)

it's squenix so

they just throw rammuh and leviathan there kappa

I know they won't appear dw xD

i don't remember story wise, but did they even had connection with ultima ?

[steady pebble]

who?

[grizzled seal]

I don't think so

[steady pebble]

ramuh/levi?

[grizzled seal]

the other arr primals with ultima

[silent path]

yea

[steady pebble]

its just the original 3

[silent path]

yeah though so

x3

don't forget tho

they did said smth about ozma

maybe someeday we will see him

[grizzled seal]

tbh I'd rather have alex

[silent path]

yeah im sure it will appears ultima

for sure

i'm sure they'll bring even the 24 man raid boss's lol

like world of darkness lady and such

[grizzled seal]

i just hope 5.0 savage will move closer to the ultimate fights again from the visual design/atmosphere of ultimate again

the current raidtier feels a bit bland

[scenic patrol]

Alex with Pepsiman, Brute Justice and Prime

[silent path]

what was even heavensward boss's lul

forgot

from 24 man raid

[steady pebble]

which one lol

[silent path]

the last ones

i remember that lady with big hair

that's it

LOL

[scenic patrol]

Diabolos

[silent path]

🤔

that's not a lady

Kappa

or a trap

[scenic patrol]

Dun Scaith last boss is Diabolos

[grizzled seal]

calofisteri

[silent path]

I know just messing with u johni friendo ❤

Phlegethon , Xande and Cloud of Darkness was the ones in arr that remember

I*

[scenic patrol]

You're not my friend bucko

[silent path]

wow

[scenic patrol]

[silent path]

dafuq

rude

freaking miqo'tes

[scenic patrol]

I don't play Miqote

Never did

[silent path]

ur a

🥔 ?

[scenic patrol]

No

[steady pebble]

Echnida, calofisteri, diabolos

[silent path]

a hyur ? D: D: D:~

[sour solstice]

hes highlander

[steady pebble]

are the 24mans of HW end bosses

[silent path]

oh a daddy lander

thanks kael

[scenic patrol]

Nah

[sour solstice]

are you derplander?

[scenic patrol]

Fem Highlander

[silent path]

a mommy lander

[sour solstice]

oh ok

[silent path]

🤔

[scenic patrol]

!myglamour

[storm frost]

Glamour for Johni Bravo of Odin

[shadow pollen]

made it to godka on pugs

what an accomplishment

[blissful solstice]

Wow

I pugged Deltascape and finding a PF group that could kill exdad consistently was awful

[heavy mist]

this is a true statement ^

by the time we made it to neo ex, people be like oh out of time

💤

[blissful solstice]

Yep

[stable basin]

I only ever took a couple cracks at O3S and O4S

I didn't get to endgame till October and then after O2S clear became fixated on Shin Ex

[dull radish]

And it's dead

[wet stag]

wait is uwu down

grats jp

[sour solstice]

wait what

[dull radish]

https://gyazo.com/d97b6ab2e7fefd22226b19c8ce456dea

[sour solstice]

oh

hey look

another WF DRK

dw guys DRK is dumpster tier xdddd

[dull radish]

Well Raffter is Raffter

[sour solstice]

[steady pebble]

no drg, interesting

wait

[sour solstice]

They may have had one

[steady pebble]

they're missing one lol

[sour solstice]

there are 7 people in that shot lol

[steady pebble]

counting is hard, ok

[sour solstice]

either way though you are right

[steady pebble]

someone posted a screenshot of the fflogs

[sour solstice]

the 8th was a NIN

[steady pebble]

8th was nin

[scenic patrol]

UwU is down, grats EU

[normal mesa]

holy shit

[glossy musk]

There ya go

[glossy musk]

Literally won due to DOTs at enrage, god bless

[normal mesa]

That's beautiful

i love it

[grizzled seal]

someone has a link to the report?

[steady pebble]

its been made private now, i think

[grizzled seal]

ah

[scenic patrol]

https://youtu.be/RYlihkqilkA

[chrome sigil]

@keen dove which did you find harder, UwU or UCoB? D:

[keen dove]

ucob took more time because it had more trios to figure out

but after you learned them they were kind of easy to execute, some mechanics in this fight are harder because you have less time to react

and also the dps check looked way harder on this one, idk if it's true or not

time will tell

[glossy musk]

Yeah talking with Entropy they felt the DPS check was harder on UWU

[chrome sigil]

Damn O.o shorter but much more intense is it? 😄

[wet stag]

wait so how many stacks do you need for mesohigh

for ultima

[lyric summit]

no one has seen the whole fight except those 8 so 🤷

[glossy musk]

There’s some others who are very close

I’m expecting a world second later today

[sour solstice]

maybe Aya or will tell ya if you ask em

[glossy musk]

It’s just very tight DPS check

Tighter than ever before

[wet stag]

didnt yoshi p say dps check in uwu would be easier

[full wave]

Yoshi says a lot of things

[chrome sigil]

maybe he meant the earlier phases.

[silent path]

https://twitter.com/ayafromfflogs/status/1005822462871916544

Aya Liz (@ayafromfflogs)

We thought dots killed the boss but there is an unsung hero

Retweets

106

Twitter

[sullen sable]

[lyric summit]

so the SMN was alive but they couldn't attack so what.. gaols?

[full wave]

Probably enrage

[glossy musk]

It was enrage

He uses citadel buster on one person at a time for 999,999 damage

Notice the huge spike in damage taken

7,000,000 which means all but the SMN were dead

[full wave]

What was Ultima's dps?

[stable basin]

huh interesting, wonder if they're going to be shifting more towards the WoW style enrage in the future rather than the slowcast instawipe paradigm

they've already used it now with TsukiEx, UCOB, and UWU, it looks like

they barely made it lol

[wet stag]

whats tsukuex enrage?

[stable basin]

apparently the stack marker becomes "anyone stacked gets gibbed"

kinda like morn afah on ucob, from what i understand

Hmmm also so basically healers adjust on TsukiEx is the same thing as mtq's strategy except the OT and healer positioning is switched?

[sour solstice]

I thought it was she spams lunacy

and just gets a damage up stack

[stable basin]

Yeah, Lunacy is the stack marker

[sour solstice]

no

thats not what I was objecting to

she doesnt instakill

[normal mesa]

with the damage up

it BECOMES an instakill

[sour solstice]

I thought she just spammed it gaining damage

I was misinformed apparently

w/e

if you see enrage your party is anyway so

[stable basin]

I wonder how switching the OT and healer positions is of benefit.

It sounds like MTQ's strategy is basically "Tanks Adjust" which doesn't really seem any different

unless healers adjust is just enough of a meme that it makes it easier for pugs to remember

[indigo kraken]

what should I do in finding an alliance for the Lighthouse?

queue turned into something really long

i wonder if people will answer..

i dont see any made at all

[sour solstice]

tanks have the longest ques

since there are only 3

[stable basin]

well congrat to the WF team for this hard won victory along with their carbuncle lol

leith is a master

[zinc vortex]

oof 6 people died to enrage on their run

the gods

[high ether]

oh dear

[lyric kelp]

i wonder if eos took a buster

[wet stag]

got woke garuda down

[sour solstice]

nice

how far did you get into wokefrit

[wet stag]

like

nails are hard man

lul

but we cleared nails like twice

i need to study wokefrit more

[silent path]

LOL

yep

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/8q0zi4/i_dont_quite_understand_some_of_the_prerequisites/

[hybrid rapids]

5: A group that told me they were helping a friend clear 07s, and they would help me clear 08s in return, upon looking at their info, the "friend" who needed help with 07s was literally the entire group.

[wet stag]

@hybrid rapids I can clear woke garuda p easily not

Now*

Are you proud of me senpai

[hybrid rapids]

grats

i think woke garuda + woke ifrit = twintania

woke titan = lite nael

[glossy musk]

I love that thread

[stable basin]

What if there a unbeatable fight that's like Absolute Virtue ?

[barren grove]

Should be fine, can simulate zooming into the chat log by increasing font size

[stable basin]

Heh I've sometimes thought that's how a mmo should end its PvE content

When the last raid gets released tune the final boss so it is always just mathematically out of reach

Like close enough that people keep trying but not quite doable

[glossy musk]

Players will always find a way. Even absolute virtue was totally bearable

Beatable

[lusty oak]

lock it out of bene

oh wait it's Nadine thoughts

figures

[lament dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExW7-0MtCM

They just uploaded the clear vid

[lyric summit]

that enrage animation tho

[hybrid rapids]

Grats Entropy world first UwU
UwU World First POVs
PLD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExW7-0MtCM
WHM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvbvULBEdc
SMN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hp915ozvC0
NIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWOK2WYEhU&feature=youtu.be

[wet stag]

Are you serious rn

The group that cleared is part of entropy yes but they have nothing to do with the housing shit

Are you seriously trying to undermine their clear by bringing that in

[blazing pelican]

Salty people gonna salt

[steep summit]

salt about what?

[wet stag]

That was evidently a jab at entropy

Ya ain't slick

[steep summit]

haha cant joke about the golden group of reddit sorry to offend

[supple sail]

[wet stag]

Jokes are supposed to be funny

[steep summit]

thats not funny?

[supple sail]

[lucid karma]

??? ???

[paper torrent]

[full wave]

They don't need a white knight

They choose to associate with that group so they can face the backlash.

[supple sail]

who cares

[full wave]

Idk I just hate when people defend something or someone for no reason.

[supple sail]

what about when people make drama for no reason

[full wave]

@supple sail Did you change your name

[sour solstice]

im with Lyon here

[supple sail]

I'm Lyon

[full wave]

Oh ya

[scenic patrol]

I don't get the reason to bring the drama into the World first anyhow

[sour solstice]

Its just so pointless

[scenic patrol]

Or the people who tried to undermine their achievement due to I dunno

Prejudice

[lucid karma]

I don't even get what's going on here

[stable basin]

I'm more curious as to the role of mass workshop farming to a raid outfit than opining one way or other as to its appropriateness

[steady pebble]

people bringing up the housing drama around angered/entropy i think

[lucid karma]

and did they do it

or just few guys in FC

[supple sail]

the FC leadership

[full wave]

I mean their FC leader was apparently being a dick about it

[steady pebble]

it was a crafting group that's associated with entrop

[stable basin]

It's not like the materia the airships bring back are even worth much gil

[scenic patrol]

And the Entropy leader as well

[steady pebble]

and the fc leader didn't exactly help things by his response

either way tho

its not really something that needs to constantly be brought up

[lucid karma]

so they're dick but what does it have to do with being world first

[scenic patrol]

But doesn't have much to do with the static aside from the funding

[steady pebble]

more so in regards to world first

because its irrelevant to the race

[supple sail]

but none of this involved the members of the WF team

[stable basin]

I guess it's more important to even patches otoh

[supple sail]

it's just by association with the FC

[full wave]

All I'm saying is thaf they continue to associate with these people so they don't mind.

[sour solstice]

it really doesnt matter

at all

[steady pebble]

Its irrelevant

to WF

so why bring it up?

[sour solstice]

Even in even patches Nadine

[full wave]

IS IT REALLY?

[stable basin]

Because to WF savage you more or less need day one access to the new HQ gear

[full wave]

Yes

[sour solstice]

like its not like they were ever fucking Gil starved

if they could buy a whole damn ward

[steady pebble]

um

[full wave]

But sometimes drama is entertaining

[scenic patrol]

So let's leave the FC with the best support for WF tier race just cause?

[steady pebble]

its irrelevant to this world first race

so again

why the fuck does it matter

who gives a shit

[full wave]

Many people care apparently

[steady pebble]

No they don't

[wet stag]

You realise every FC gunning for WF worth a damn is gonna have crafted pentamelded prepped

[supple sail]

that's not a factor in these ultimate races

[full wave]

Yes

[wet stag]

Also Gil is irrelevant to Ultima WF since everyone was bis anyway

Exactly

[scenic patrol]

You still need food and pots

For UwU

[full wave]

All you really need to buy is infusions and food

[sour solstice]

again

if you can buy a whole ward

[full wave]

Damn I type slow on this

[sour solstice]

you dont need money

[scenic patrol]

More in regards to the static just leaving Entropy

Why would they do that?

[full wave]

They have no reason to

[scenic patrol]

They have fantastic infrastructure

To support them

[sour solstice]

"so uh like 6 people in our fc were dicks so we are just gonna virtue signal and shoot ourselves in the foot"

like why

[stable basin]

Maybe they want to prove they can do it without needing an e sports outfit behind them in the future shrug

[full wave]

virtue signal

Disgusting

[stable basin]

People leave FCs all the time, who knows

It doesn't even really seem to carry the same gravity in xiv as guild hopping does in other mmos

[wet stag]

This conversation has strayed from its original point

[full wave]

Guild hopping is frowned upon?

It's just a game

[sour solstice]

its just a game

[normal mesa]

anyway

question

garuda question

[wet stag]

People like to pull the it's just a game card when it's convenient lol

[normal mesa]

best way to safely aoe if your tank insists on leaving the spiny in the Scary AOE Danger Zone without killing it too early?

[wet stag]

?

Spiny should be stacked with satin

Until scream

[normal mesa]

we have smn/mch and my god I feel like if I sneeze in its direction its gonna explode

[wet stag]

Oh

[normal mesa]

it dies early WAY too often

[wet stag]

It tethers to the ot

So don't worry about aggro

[full wave]

Yes. I think taking leaving a guild personally is dumb. Kinda like I think taking blocking a job personally is dumb.

[normal mesa]

so I'm wondering how to best adjust my opener to not kill it early?

[wet stag]

You're in a static yeah?

[normal mesa]

ye

[scenic patrol]

OT needs to be the one to hit it first

And that's it

[wet stag]

Tell the ot to pull out first then

[normal mesa]

nah nah it isn't tethering to the wrong person

just mch/smn aoe plus the party is making it die early half the time

so idk how best to adjust the smn opener

[scenic patrol]

Then let the PLD pull it out early

[normal mesa]

still experimenting but yeag

yeah*

nah they said they don't wanna

[scenic patrol]

And let the melee do single target rotation

Or something

[full wave]

Tell your OT to stop being an idiot and move it away

[scenic patrol]

If there's too much AOE damage

[normal mesa]

that's what we're tryin next Johni

just tryin to think ahead in case that fails.

[wet stag]

Or

Tell the ot to not stack with the group and just hit spiny

Then get your dps to aoe satin first then st spiny

[full wave]

Why does he not want to move the spiny away?

[wet stag]

They're just brainstorming atm

[normal mesa]

I will if it gets to that point but I'm not lead and I'm less experienced so my input seems to mean less

yeah that

[scenic patrol]

Because you only want to move spiny after Garuda jumps

[normal mesa]

now that we saw woke bird enrage we're cleanin up

[wet stag]

But if you have to adapt your strat it's never a bad thing

Just make sure you end garuda with 3 people with 1thermal low stack

[normal mesa]

we didn't get much prog this week cuz irl but next week

[scenic patrol]

At least you are progging

[wet stag]

Woke garuda is like kekfaust hard lol

Mechanics wise

[normal mesa]

yis

is fun. i am enjoying it.

[wet stag]

It's pretty comfy

I'm p comf with wokeruda now

But ot does like nothing

[normal mesa]

smn seems to line up pretty nice

our mch is just like

waaaay better than me haha

[wet stag]

What do you play?

[normal mesa]

so shit melts if we ever aoe together. its finally an issue

smn

NORMALLY our combined aoe is a blessing lol

[wet stag]

Oh right

[normal mesa]

what

why you pepe at me

[unreal flax]

"Learning on alt. Please know mechanics." What? What does this mean?

[normal mesa]

lmfao

wow

[blissful solstice]

@normal mesa hello fellow SMN

@unreal flax it means they're absolute garbage at the game

don't join the party

[normal mesa]

henlo. I'm still a baby tbh

[unreal flax]

Like, I wanna get some O8S experience in , but then I see that and I'm actually frightened.

[stable basin]

They want to progress through the fight and deal with all the mechanics while using a job they're less comfortable on

[blissful solstice]

They want you to carry them basically

[stable basin]

Depends how it's advertised

Seems reasonable if it's labeled as practice and not farm

[steep iris]

they prob meant alt job

[blissful solstice]

Ah

Could be reasonable if it's practice then yeah

[stable basin]

Or even clear if they're kind of comfortable but still optimizing

[blissful solstice]

Years of PF has led me to basically assume the worst from everyone >_>

Usually if someone says 'be good at the game' it means 'please carry me because i'm not good' but obviously there are exceptions

[stable basin]

They just don't want to wipe 30 seconds in because then they can't practice their rotation against all the mechanics

[unique wolf]

savage is super accessible now

just do it

[heavy mist]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1006053021732634625

FINAL FANTASY XIV (@FF_XIV_EN)

Two teams have completed The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate) so far... Who's next!? #FFXIV

World 1st: Entropy (Chaos) June 10, 13:07:41 UTC
World 2nd: Elysium (Aether) June 11, 00:46 UTC

Twitter

👀

[zinc vortex]

what tiff said honestly

5s and 6s are great places to jump in and practice

[hybrid rapids]

bunny ex looks cool

didn't realized that

[azure hill]

The animation of her ultimate is gorgeous

Pay attention to the background during phase transitions

They've done an excellent job

[unreal flax]

It's easily the prettiest fight in the game.

[high ether]

it feels like an interactive cutscene

[lyric summit]

but your dps keeps dropping

it's so annoying that you can move before he's targettable.. you're like LETS GOOO but there's still like 5s of gosetsu

[zinc vortex]

if anyone deserves those 5 seconds its my boy gosetsu

😤

[untold oyster]

When it comes to visuals, forsaken makes my eyes cum

[lucid karma]

there it is, world 3rd

[spice comet]

😂

[boreal edge]

@wheat gate i spent closer to 4 million myself

unless u mean

both accs + materia

its safe to say its around 10 mil

entire set

you got more than enough time to get 10 mil in 7 months

i got 130 mil in 3 weeks

[humble scarab]

Man it was faster to kill than UCoB

[glossy musk]

Yes, because it’s shorter

It’s harder than UCOB though

Much tighter on DPS and mechanics

Meeting the DPS check require significant healer DPS

[scenic patrol]

https://imgur.com/mHn7ZlT

[unreal flax]

Damn. Garuda requires 33.5k rDPS to clear.

[scenic patrol]

That doesn't seem Awfully high

Actually it's quite low

[dull radish]

Yeah Garuda dps check is pretty easygoing

[scenic patrol]

You should be parsing around 40K with any decent group due to AOE pad

Also you are supposed to be at BiS going in

[unreal flax]

That's true.

[dull radish]

Dps gets silly in there haha

[spice comet]

Ultima is the true healer dps matters, iirc they mention that depending on how u deal with the balls itll make it ezer

[stable basin]

Yeah pretty sure the SMN was over 10k for the first minute or two

[dull radish]

I get 14-15k+ spikes there and sustain it for a while haha

Is real fun

[opal hollow]

i got fucking pushed off a ledge by lumiare

and died

LOL

[unreal flax]

lmao

lmaoooo

that's the best

[sour solstice]

when they end up doing Alex ultimate

they should give him a Sephirot-esque phase

where Alexander prime disappears and you fighting the big boi

[lucid karma]

Alex ult then Triad ult

[heavy mist]

Just make Gordias Ultimate

👀

[wet stag]

!faq healguide

[storm frost]

Error!

No tag named healguide exists, Kupo!

[wet stag]

!faq heal

[storm frost]

Did you mean:
pvphealing
healerguide

Zyrk's Bullshit Guide to the Principles of Healing

Info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yoq1zU2VgMJQ53PaJHaUtwA3S2aSz1C69qkLDaOmZY8/

[wet stag]

!faq healerguide

Oh sweet it is on here

[sour solstice]

thanks Zyrk

[lucid karma]

bullshit guide

not bullshit

[sour solstice]

its Zyrk

what did you expect

[lucid karma]

yeah I know

[blissful solstice]

Is that guide good

[sour solstice]

yes

Zyrk is really good

[scenic patrol]

he's gay though

[silent path]

man

I love arthras

https://clips.twitch.tv/AdorableRockyDinosaurRiPepperonis?tt_medium=clips&tt_content=recommendation

xDD

[kind schooner]

whats the general skill floor and skill ceilings of the melee dps jobs in raids? I know drg is low skill floor and high skill ceiling while sam is a bit higher floor and lower ceiling than drg

[wet stag]

I'd say Sam is low floor low ceiling

Drg's floor and ceiling are higher than sam

[sour solstice]

SAM is probably like

second lowest of the DPS

other than RDM

[wet stag]

Nin floor is below sam, but ceiling is galaxy brain

[sour solstice]

because

[kind schooner]

Nin is really that hard to optimize? Whys that

I figured I needed to specify raids because outside of them, drg is sleeper tier, but in raids never missing a GCD/buff but also never getting hit and doing positionals is next level

[wet stag]

And mnk probably same floor as Sam but ceiling is universe brain

[paper torrent]

NIN punishes you for just about everything

not being in AA range, doing mudras too slowly and using anything inbetween them

bunnys

[wet stag]

Idk that's how it feels as someone who has almost no experience as melee In raid lul

[kind schooner]

Huh. Guess I'll stick to sam

[paper torrent]

NIN opener is one of the most important openers

because usually a lot of openers will delay stuff for trick attack on 5th gcd

[full wave]

Pretty much every opener is built specifically around Trick Attack

[wet stag]

Even nin openers are built around trick attack

[full wave]

Aren't there like 3 or 4 ninja openers

Damn I'm glad I dropped that job

[wet stag]

I only know 2

Tcj and bhava openers

*technically 4 if you include prepull doton variations

[lucid karma]

MNK ceiling is weird because tornado kick

otherwise it's no worse than DRG

[wet stag]

Yeah but if you ignore TK you're not playing at the ceiling are you

[scenic patrol]

there's no argument to be had about jobs ceilings if we ignore the very high end of optimization