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#endgame-lounge
heady widget
hybrid rapids
alex savage was brutal
๐จ
minus creator but creator alone still harder than any of current raids
scenic patrol
when did you clear those?
hybrid rapids
oh, the difficulty is different when you have echo and overgeared
stable basin
alex savage is still far from easy even unsync, tbh
hybrid rapids
you skipped everything
no, you just brute force everything
it's just click the button and pass
just o8s gravel
heady widget
i cleared all those alex savages prob a few months back
stable basin
a6s will kill you dead with height error too
normal mesa
yeah no
stable basin
that's an insta wipe on savage basically
normal mesa
clearing it recently doesn't count
hybrid rapids
height error is brain dead mechanic lol
heady widget
idk whether i should try and clr all of O1s-O4s or just skip O5s
cus im ilvl 343 rn
scenic patrol
find a group first
scenic patrol
yeah, but it's impossible to clear this shit with pugs
hybrid rapids
gear up first
๐จ
you need meals and also POT
self-sufficient
then gearing up
raiding is not about killing the boss only
of course if you're good enough and recruited by raid FC
they will sponsor you meals and pot
which is very unlikely for fresh raiders
hybrid rapids
it's still helpful
wet stag
It's a hard knock life
hybrid rapids
on 1~3% wipe
normal mesa
Start on O5S tbh
hybrid rapids
or catch up from mistakes after died
normal mesa
go to the dummy, the Stone Sea Sky one
fight it without food or potions until you can beat it.
hybrid rapids
ilvl 343 is far from raid ready
normal mesa
yeah
normal mesa
you're in 4.1 gear
scenic patrol
as long as you are with a good weapon you can raid at 343
I just wouldn't count on clearing after O6S
tawdry matrix
I need new deep dungeon
heady widget
wait hold on, wtf is POT?
scenic patrol
potions
normal mesa
I still recommend Stone Sea Sky for the budding raider. Find out where you are at.
tawdry matrix
Dunno why Tsun wrote it in capital letters
heady widget
oh
scenic patrol
!item grade 2 infusion of strength
storm frostBOT
heady widget
lool
hybrid rapids
pot has different meaning
normal mesa
if you don't even come close to beating the o5s dummy in SSS you need a lot of work etc
hybrid rapids
let me show you a pot
heady widget
yea not used to alot of ff terminology i just know the basic mmo terms lool
normal mesa
is ok
normal mesa
but do you know where the stone sea sky dummies are?
hybrid rapids
i think it will be hard to bear SSS dummy on 343
normal mesa
im bein totally serious
hybrid rapids
unless you summoned chocobo :P
normal mesa
ye he should gear up
stable basin
Train is also a really fun fight
heady widget
no ive never tried SSS
normal mesa
is my point
tawdry matrix
rhalgars bich is SSS for 4.0 content
heady widget
im actually about to attempt to fight the train rn LOOL
tawdry matrix
heady widget
maybe like one dungeon away from being able to buy some more 360 gear
normal mesa
yes that shale?
hybrid rapids
here's some good read
normal mesa
its still SSS in the unlock message lol
hybrid rapids
from bokchok big fan
starting fresh into raiding isn't always easy
have to dedicate time into it
heady widget
i see
hybrid rapids
it's from NA PUG perspective
so i won't comment much
and i know he PUG a lot on most jobs
vital bolt
expect more suffering than success if you're pugging right off the bat
normal mesa
it gets better in time but yeah
vital bolt
One PF from another could be like night and day in performance and understanding
normal mesa
starts terrible
heady widget
in raiding?
vital bolt
What's more is a lot of times even learning parties have zero patience if one or more rage quit
heady widget
yup
vital bolt
The rest tend to leave if there's no communication going on
vital bolt
Best to break the ice as much as you can before you go in the instance
heady widget
i have tried to in the past
heady widget
yea maybe
vital bolt
Tough to find one depending on your play time
heady widget
well i normally get on around 8 or 9 pm est
vital bolt
If you're not within the prime time of your data center
It becomes a task to find a static
scenic patrol
most of the statics in my DC raid at times I can play on off days from work
heady widget
yea i never really looked for a static, i was always looking for clr parties or lp's
heady widget
well youre lucky lol
unreal lance
very hard to do
scenic patrol
I don't want to be stuck playing without the textures
installation is now bald so hair doesn't exist if I don't fix this
unreal lance
lol
heady widget
Well we almost beat it lool
Damn a couple of runs on that train and we could've cleared
But I'm so fucking tired so had to get off
All gamed out loo
sleek belfry
Why? ๐ค
high ether
because Ultima Ultimate has some crazy mechanics in it
a summary of Ultima Ultimate
world first progged through the first three phases of the fight within twelve hours or so, because they were actually quite easy
but then ran into a wall with the fourth phase
and then they realized they'd been doing the first three phases wrong
so there are basically two ways to do the first half of the fight, but if you do it the easy way, you cannot progress into the second half
high ether
the first three phases are crazy difficult if you do them the hard way, and I guess world first is going insane because of that
sleek belfry
And it's the same mechanics just turned up to 11
high ether
having to do them over and over
sleek belfry
Ruda isn't that hard awoken ๐
sleek belfry
Ifrit is pretty spicy
dull radish
and that's what they're going crazy over
sleek belfry
It's gunna be all the mechanics from previous ones with extra 
blissful solstice
Yeah WF has probably made it to phase 4 and that's driving them insane
dull radish
Nice <3
dull radish
yeah, it's pretty dang enjoyable
will be interesting to start to work through ifrit haha
wet stag
i dont think we'll do woke just yet
just wanna see the fight and pretend we're achieving something
normal mesa
hey non-woke lets you learn the base mechs
dull radish
mm I suppose
I feel like woken garuda is pretty decent idea to hop right into though, since it doesn't change much or make it all that much harder
hybrid rapids
dull radish
sour solstice
OOF
silent path
Just got home what's the furthest someone been ?
wet stag
woke titan
wet stag
yeah 2nd set of landslides after woketh arent telegraphed explicitly
but they spawn in between the previous set
so its a 2->1 dodge basically
silent path
Inb4 u just need to be out of the front
wet stag
na
lemme grab a diagram someone made
red is first set,
white is second set
white has no telegraphs
blazing pelican
lavish cobalt
The coins from lighthouse and rabanstre how are they capped?
like 1 coin per week or somethinf?
dull radish
one per week for lighthouse
steady pebble
coins from rabanastre aren't capped
dull radish
unlimited for rabanastre
lavish cobalt
ah i see and when does lighthouse cap reset?
storm frostBOT
lavish cobalt
ahh thanks!
lament dawn
What was it that awakened Titan?
dull radish
having him be in the sludge puddle left behind by exploding a gaol
in order to have him in one long enough, since he's normally in tumult spam and can't be moved, is you chain gaol explosions from south to him at north (gaol exploding blows up adjacent gaol)
unreal flax
looool that's dope
dull radish
I was actually thinking of something along those lines yesterday when folks were going about trying to get all the primals woken haha
wet stag
waow
sour solstice
Rika prophet
sour solstice
if this was the balance id change my name to rika cultist
but you cant be a cultist here
steady pebble
Rika haxxor 
unreal lance
well I do need someone new to worship
lyric kelp
Watching these guys wipe because they can't eye ball the gaol explosion distance right 
wet stag
What if
To unwoke the primals
You need to do the woke mechanics in reverse
So garuda is 4 people gain 2 thermal low
Ifrit is 2 people stand in puddles to heal nails
sour solstice
wet stag
Or just heal nails
(shin ex anyone?)
And for titan 3 people need to stand equidistantly in puddles for gaols to form around them
Galaxy brain
sour solstice
IIRC they "prime" themselves for the charge in the order they charge in
tribal smelt
your kill order of buffed nails dictates the charge order
lament dawn
about the garuda tethers, does distance matter or is it aoe damage regardless?
heady widget
good afteroon everyone ๐
silent path
garuda if u fail to "awake" her at first
u can awake her late right ?
or u have to awake her early
dull radish
usual strat is to do 3 of the cleanses on the spiny plume AoE, and then one on the mesohigh tether
you can probably do 4 on the spiny plume AoE but you'd have to be fast and stack a lot of quick heals, and then you don't have a tank taking the tether with two stacks to limit his incoming damage
silent path
didn't knew ultimate had ost ?
that someone reached ?
if this is illegal topost delete it plz
since its primal song
zinc vortex
lyric kelp
Woah that's an impressive thinking emote
azure hill
Nah, they're hired by Arab oil sheiks ๐
kind schooner
What step is the i335 eureka weapon? I hear it's as easy as hitting level 5 with the challenge log but isnt there also currency farming
steady pebble
getting the i335 eureka weapon is just having the antiquated version + 100 protean crystals
kind schooner
Ah ok thats easy enough. When do you start getting these crystals? I'm at the beach killing squib after squib for 50 exp to get my first 1000
steady pebble
you're assured one at a 30 kill chain iirc, but they're also random possible from killing mobs
easiest way to get them is doing the NMs
and converting anemos into protean
kind schooner
Cool. Whats an NM?
steady pebble
notorious monster, they're basically the boss monsters in eureka
kind schooner
Oh ok cool, hopefully wont have to kill hundreds of these things before getting to participate in those
sour solstice
who where
dull radish
Yeah there was also a pic of it much lower. But both could very easily be praetoreum haha
elder dawn
and it doesn't have any buff icons under his health bar
silent path
they are rika
sour solstice
unless theres another layer of bullshit
dull radish
Yeah, I'm sure. I'd be surprised if otherwise
sour solstice
that we havent seen
heavy mist
theres probably more BS
heavy mist
during Ultima Weapon
sturdy shell
guy who tweeted out that pic also tweeted that jp got world first before servers were live
sturdy shell
apart from 'woke'?
unreal flax
Until y'all give me video, I'm not rollin
sturdy shell
I need a screenshot
not just some cutout of a healthbar lmao
they were posting pics of prog on twitter
digital drift
Okay is there a reason that the stupid minstrel isn't giving me access to moon lady Ex?
Oh it's under the fucking high end duh Misaki you fool
unreal flax
lol
steady pebble
all current savage and extreme trials are under the high end duty, for future reference ๐
digital drift
No I know, I just saw doggo in normal and figured it should have been in there
Haven't played since Deltascape Savage dropped
dull radish
Not the first person to have made that mistake haha, at least you sorted it out. Have had folks argue with me that it wasn't there, even after I asked them to double check a few times, only for them to look and find it on the list
digital drift
Ugh now I just need a group to run it with
sour solstice
good luck in party finder 
sour solstice
See
you just assumed the problem wrong
You assumed that the problem would be finding a group
the real problem
is memeors
digital drift
I'm not worried about the quality of the group
sour solstice
you should be
digital drift
Same as usual
stable basin
I do hope UwU won't end until From Software show off their new not soul game
then it's just pain on pain
boreal edge
so i went to ultimate
i still dont understand how the 1st soak work
is 1st guy taking tank buster
or is it T10 charge
dull radish
it's wild charge yeah
dull radish
he sure does
I think we do like apoc rampart or something
I forget exactly other than I apoc haha
heavy mist
yeh just pop come mitigation stuff and ez pz
bold jasper
rampart/apoc and reprisal works fine for us
i pop rampart before pull so its up for the two tank soak later tho
steep iris
i can't go back to whm
i tried to prog uwu as whm yesterday for a few pulls
and I just can't
now I'm back to ast
but literally every cohealer I get in uwu pfs are whm
so I switch to sch feelsbadman
heavy mist
WHM/SCH Poggers
steep iris
everything about ast feels so nice rn
lightspeed+gravity spam
fast ass malefic casts
when I go back to whm I'm a slow boye again
earthly star is also goddamn awesome
lucid karma
Mini rant but fuck this I still can't reach 6k on O6S
I really need to concentrate a lot more than usual one day
NIN
Our group is progress focused rather than speedrun
No AST and MCH
lucid karma
Also SCH is kinda uh
Use chain strat at will
But yeah it's actually just me trying to concentrate
trim cloak
Is there a table with expected dps values per fight, sorted by gear lvl?
trim cloak
it can't? oh
wet stag
Depends on your gear
lyric summit
there's like.. minimal raid dps you need to clear a fight, and also 3min dummies that can kinda tell you if you're doing enough dps to kill
wet stag
Imo a good starting value would be 50% at blue
sour solstice
different pieces of gear make a HUGE difference
lyric summit
wet stag
And as your gear gets higher work your way up to purple
trim cloak
uh how do I check the color of a parse?
lyric summit
mind you the "required dps" on that calculator doesn't account for party buffs and mechanics
sour solstice
upload
lyric summit
open a parse, go into damage dealt
trim cloak
I have. Is it the color of the graph?
wet stag
Grey is 0-25, green is 25-50, blue is 50-75, purple is 75-95, orange is 95-99, grey is 100
Yes
lyric summit
100 is yellow lul
trim cloak
ok, for some reason I lack the Perf% stat in the logs
lucid karma
miss one trick attack
sour solstice
because thats part of ff logs
lucid karma
it's grey now
sour solstice
not part of ACT
lucid karma
Every time
wet stag
@trim cloak is it a dummy fight
lyric summit
link the log @trim cloak
wet stag
If it is fflogs doesn't have ranking for that
wet stag
WHY DO YOU HAVE A 290 WEAPON
wet stag
Wtf
trim cloak
Cause I hit 70 last week on BRD?
lucid karma
What
trim cloak
And started Eureka last week too
sour solstice
Its like
wet stag
No excuses
lyric summit
just buy creation weapon and get 340
wet stag
Yeah
lucid karma
At least you could just buy creation tome weapon
lucid karma
That's 330 without upgrading
sour solstice
train
lucid karma
Not an excuse
sour solstice
choo choo motherfucker
lucid karma
Oh wait
sour solstice
emp/numbears
lucid karma
I forgot
lucid karma
They still haven't unlock cryatalloid
lyric summit
just do level 70 content -> get 1000 creation -> do o4 four times -> do rabanastre -> get 340 weapon
lucid karma
Yeah tough spot, sorry
lyric summit
alternatively do byakko for i355, cause it's easy af
lucid karma
Oh wait only for uh i360 weap
trim cloak
I do not meet the minimum ilvl for byakko or tsuko
trim cloak
And I can't afford a crafted weapon as those are 1.5-2mil
lucid karma
Spam O4 normal 4 times
trim cloak
train? o6n?
sour solstice
no
lucid karma
Buy weapon
lyric summit
yeah just get the creation weapon then, reaching lvl 20 on eureka can take ages, if you're serious about savage just get a 340 asap
trim cloak
yeah I'm going to do that tonight
trim cloak
How do you evaluate a log to check where you can improve?
sour solstice
for brd
trim cloak
All I know for now is that my parse is shit.
lyric summit
it would just be easier if you linked the log
sour solstice
thats the absolute basics
trim cloak
Stormbite: 98.53%
Caustic Bite: 98.15%
sure I'll link it
is there a way to link a specific fight?
Cause currently it has like all my fights in it
trim cloak
ok my song uptime is ass. 62.44%
lyric summit
you're not really using an opener, so that's p bad
sour solstice
no foe casts
6/6/4 for songs
I know kefka doesnt have THAT much invuln
iron jaws looks a little high
but i might be wrong there
wet stag
What's the count?
sour solstice
35
wet stag
WEW LADY
sour solstice
9:39 fight
sour solstice
I dont think so
lucid karma
normal
lucid karma
You can't kill savage with that kind of overall dps
sour solstice
only 1 battle voice
wet stag
21-23?
lucid karma
A lot to fix for fundamental issues
sour solstice
lucid karma
Learning
kind schooner
With level 5 in Eureka should I start going to NM farm parties? I still havent gotten my first crystal for krile's quest but I'm already like 80 kills in and I don't expect to get one any time soon now
solemn crow
3.2k how ๐
kind schooner
Aight, NM rewards guarenteed crystals that turn into the krile quest one right
Or do I have to get one krile crystal before I can break down the bigger ones
last galleon
i've heard people say you need to get one krile crystal before gerolt can break down stuff for you
kind schooner
Nah Gerolt has no menu
last galleon
ok r i p then
kind schooner
Just says something about the land of eureka and shoos me away
last galleon
you have to get your first crystal as a drop
azure hill
In that case, you're out of luck
kind schooner
Will NM monsters drop the protean/primordial/whatever they're called crystals
Or just anemos ones
azure hill
Anemos only
lucid karma
Only anemos
last galleon
NMs don't drop regular crystals
lucid karma
But anemos is better anyway
kind schooner
I havent been able to hit chain 30, the timer runs out faster than I can kill
wet stag
@kind schooner chain LV 5 mobs
last galleon
yeah, but Frost here needs a normal one right now lol
wet stag
Another dude for dps
azure hill
Try getting a few people together
kind schooner
Every group I've joined too the chain counter runs out around the 20s
Early 20s
Just not enough damage, these monsters are so tanky
last galleon
yeah that first crystal is really annoying if you don't have a group
kind schooner
Is there a way to cheese it then because I've been with two two-man groups (for 3 people total) and both times couldnt get a 30 chain
last galleon
do they even have one before you hand in the first crystal?
kind schooner
Yeah, we'd pull every imp in the area then once they were all dead we'd kill af ew skeletons and bombs
The timer ran out at 18 during the bomb/skeletons phase that one
When I was doing my water log at ele level 2/3 the chain ran out at about 24 or so because the other dps was level 3 and the monster we were fighting was level 4
Yeah I was 5, these are all 5/6
Should I just do it solo maybe, and kill one by one
Hmm. Maybe I'll just try spamming shout until theres a 4 man group
3 doesnt seem to work haha
Eureka potion?
Both groups so far were 2 dps (me as rdm) and a healer
last galleon
did your chain break as in, the mobs don't spawn fast enough, or you guys weren't burning the monsters down fast enough?
kind schooner
the chain timer got low enough where a monster wouldnt die in our giant aoe pack before the chain went away
we were only aoe pulling
kind schooner
Oh, so never aoe spam in eureka? Unless in a NM farm
wet stag
No aoe spam is fine
kind schooner
Constant 3+ pulls in both groups I was in
last galleon
if you have a big enough party AOE spam is better
kind schooner
But again just me as rdm, someone else as dps, and a healer
last galleon
but with 3 it's better to do 1-2 at a time and keep the chain going
kind schooner
so just 2 aoe dps
wet stag
But if the timer is running out wouldn't single target burn be preferable
last galleon
you should just all do ST, and pull the next mob when the current one is almost dead
kind schooner
Hmm. I dunno if I can convince farm parties to do that but I'll tell them
last galleon
AOE burn is great if you have multiple people going ham, but not so much for small sized party
kind schooner
Every group I've seen have been meat grinders just pulling everything and spamming aoes, like a dungeon
last galleon
it makes sense at a certain party size, but you mentioned that you usually only have 3 people
trim cloak
@sour solstice @wet stag oh yeah, I tend to refresh dots at about 10s left due to ping issues. I often experience packet loss so I grew kind of paranoid about that.
What can I do to improve opener and foe usage?
trim cloak
tbf I have no idea how to do the latter
wet stag
!faq brdguide
storm frostBOT
wet stag
Foes should just be whenever your mp is full
last galleon
you can make a conscious decision to check it every time you're in army's paeon, because that song is ass and you don't have any procs to react to
trim cloak
My opener is Raging Strikes -> Straight shot -> Stormbite -> Minuet -> Caustic bite -> empyreal -> Sidewinders -> heavy shot -> bloodletter
trim cloak
time to check that
lament dawn
Mr happy got past doom
dusky moth
What was the lb order?
lament dawn
healer, dps, tank
last galleon
so as theorized, nice
dusky moth
It wasn't dps healer tank?
wet stag
Caster healer melee tank
last galleon
i read something completley different for some reason
oh, what's the melee for? is there an aetherial tear or something
dusky moth
Titan needed to be woke
last galleon
yeah if it's 4 lbs titan needs to be woke
previously we were just thinking it was caster healer tank
dusky moth
It is caster I think
dusky moth
Caster to kill the bits
stable basin
Melee LB3 just nukes Lahabrea instantly
verbal ermine
Caster -> Healer -> Melee -> Tank
dusky moth
For the woke titan
You have to make a daisy chain of gaols from th eback one
So you can get a sludge puddle on him while he tumults and a little after
trim cloak
What's the rough fight order? 3 primals in order, trigger woke 8 times so the group survives doom, fight ultima and then lahabrea?
last galleon
well lahabrea just got one shot in that clip before ultima appears. we don't know if he will appear again later in the fight.
dusky moth
He is shit talking as ultima does his ultimate
last galleon
i hope he comes back and gets melee lb3d again.
trim cloak
oh wow, both the opener and foe requiem usage are a lot more complex than I thought.
sour solstice
the basics of foe
is just max mp
thats all id worry about
opener on the other hand is some galaxy brain shit
trim cloak
the 4s before pull cast requires the tanks to use the countdown
which is somewhat inconsistent in DF
last galleon
you can still precast it if you see a tank sprinting towards the boss
and in savage/ex people do countdowns more often. not a big deal though.
trim cloak
I've yet to see a tank sprint during the pull. Most just do this https://youtu.be/ouObpi5_DFU?t=5s
last galleon
they...RP walk towards the boss?
trim cloak
Yeah they walk up there. Sometimes they throw out a shield lob/tomahawk/unmend
last galleon
i've luckily never seen that
trim cloak
Is that often the case on Chaos?
scenic patrol
Nope
last galleon
had tanks do no countdown byakko ex though
trim cloak
I'll be back home next week so I won't have to play on 500ms anymore.
looking forward to that.
pine beacon
Oh, yeah. No countdowns put me on full tilt
Just walk off the platform/stage
*In 8 man content
last galleon
lack of ready check is the worst for SMN
heady widget
o/
last galleon
it's "OK" if i lose my precast windblade/R3/R4 fish, but if you do it before my AF is 15s from being off cooldown i'm jumping lol
sturdy shell
jesus chirst that ultima transition
trim cloak
when should you expect the ninja to trick attack? Are they running up to the boss with huton and suiton precast?
trim cloak
So delaying your dmg CDs until then is a good idea?
verbal ermine
sour solstice
WOOOOO
lament dawn
Ultima phase look ultimately epic
last galleon
that's why your sidewinder in the opener is 'delayed'
last galleon
remember the 'ultima' randomly appearing in dun scaith
sturdy shell
Shit we need ultima plating to drop
opal hollow
holy ultima
paper torrent
A+ explanations once again
silent path
the ultima appearance was pretty cool tbh
paper torrent
Also jesus all that shit everywhere
silent path
i prefered the ucob "special transiction" tho, but the uwu one is pretty cool nevertheless
paper torrent
What is this a kmmo?
wet stag
Has the knockback to a safe spot been done before
sour solstice
the titan bomb one?
wet stag
Yeah
dull radish
mmm I guess marginally related was thordan ex where half the party had ice puddles, the other half had tether charges, and then you went to mid for a knockback, standing to not get knocked into one of the ice puddles
quite different scale but similar-ish and the only thing that specifically comes to mind
vague anchor
ohshi happy made it to ultima finally eh
full wave
That transition was sick as fuck
vague anchor
those attacks are brutal lmao
oh kurogane already posted my clip xD
that fiery cross + invisible landslide is brutal
heavy mist
Its confirmed to have another already tsun
@hybrid rapids
What it is, is a spoilers
:)
silent path
if only u knew
normal mesa
tell tell
tawny swallow
So why are people heal lbing for UwU
tawny swallow
But the heal LB3 doesn't esuna???
tawny swallow
That seems incredibly stupid especially since the timing on it for the video is so far off
normal mesa
its part of the "show"
scenic patrol
Why?
blazing lintel
it's the way the mechanic works. you do 4 lb3s in a row
scenic patrol
It's a mechanic
blazing lintel
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
scenic patrol
I personally think that the 4LB transition is cool
heady widget
uhh question
scenic patrol
Also if you didn't need to heal LB you could skip a woke Primal
heady widget
should i spam sigma for gear or continue getting ilvl360 gear with mendacity?
sour solstice
@heady widget mendacity is weekly, so cap that
scenic patrol
^
sour solstice
for 5 ilvls lower
heady widget
so spam swallow for the most mendacity?
scenic patrol
!itemglam bonewicca casting coat
sour solstice
then spam Swallow's
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
What's the name of the mage one?
steady pebble
!itemglam Bonewicca Whisperer's Jacket
storm frostBOT
full wave
How do you upgrade cracted gear
steady pebble
where the scrip vendors are
heady widget
is Eureka still useful?
full wave
Yes
sour solstice
yes
full wave
It's always a good idea to invest in a relic weapon anyway
heady widget
max relic ilvl rn?
steady pebble
355
stable basin
maybe even 70?
steady pebble
no
stable basin
I mean it's probably pretty clear that 4.45 relic will be 385 if 4.25 was 3.55
steady pebble
relic almost never on par with current savage until the end
stable basin
yeah, that's going to be an interestingly stuttery progression then.
scenic patrol
normal mesa
yeah having done hw relic, if you're expecting to have something to beat the current final tier of raiding
scenic patrol
it's just like previous relics
normal mesa
you're wasting your time with relic
it's always been this way
if you want the BEST weapon, you have to savage raid to the end of the tier
steady pebble
HW's progression is: 210 > 230 > 240 > 260 > 270 >275
it does sort of compete before that
when you choose your own stats
sour solstice
Anemos competes with Tomestone no aug
normal mesa
this only changes when the expac is about to end, if the patterns hold, and thus far, it's been close. it's still worth doing for a weapon before you clear the final fight of the tier, and if the stats beat tome? 100%
I do it no matter what cuz #MyFuckingAesthetic
heavy mist
if anything just get i365 weapon and use that until u farm for diamond
sour solstice
a whole new zone
scenic patrol
pagos will likely feature new looks for weapons
sour solstice
for 5 ilvls
full wave
Stats beat unupgraded tome weapon to be clear
sour solstice
waow
steady pebble
I'm inclined to lean towards 65 personally
normal mesa
363
heady widget
holy shit
steady pebble
no reason to hope for 370
full wave
If it's 370 it'll beat Diamond Weapons though
scenic patrol
lol no
normal mesa
unless we can't set the stats yet
heavy mist
depends on class
scenic patrol
only on Monk
normal mesa
etc etc
heavy mist
most classes it shouldnt
full wave
Weapons have 5 materia slots though
steady pebble
the next stage won't necessarily
heavy mist
secondary stats are overvalued way too much sometimes
storm frostBOT
normal mesa
it's an entire extra weapon damage
steady pebble
I don't recall seeing them say that the next step will have 5 but eh
full wave
Ew fuck that
heavy mist
we just hope Kael
full wave
Why wouldn't it
steady pebble
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ no point in getting your hopes up
heavy mist
cause SQEX be like suck it
full wave
If it doesn't have materia slots it'll need to be at least 365 or else that's a downgrade probably
full wave
Unless the substats on the weapon changes with the upgrade again
steady pebble
deneb was pie/crit for both two steps
steady pebble
hm that i doubt
torn kindle
I think the 5 materia slots is a compromise for custom stats
heavy mist
hmm possibly
steady pebble
choose your stats is usually like 3-4th step
steady pebble
They may decide to skip a step, sure
they may not
we'll just have to wait and see
full wave
I hate speculating
But it's hard not to
The last time I speculated something I was super disappointed.
!action Tackle Mastery
storm frostBOT
full wave
normal mesa
relatable
torn kindle
Earth Tackle: when you don't want to hit the thing you're punching for some reason. โข
full wave
Did you know
That if you get shielded and take no damage
That Riddle of Earth doesn't proc
junior basin
Yes and it's infuriating.
sour solstice
oh
full wave
Monk is just...
storm frostBOT
full wave
Why do you hate Monks Yoshi P
junior basin
Like pug monks use RoE. :D
heady widget
wot
torn kindle
I wish this was the Balance so I could react with the REEEE emoji
stable basin
I'm guessing Thordan/T13 style wall of doom?
hybrid rapids
have to figure out the pattern
stable basin
(since there doesn't seem to be a place to fall off of for Titan's knockbacks to matter otherwise)
wait actually T9 had the wall o'doom too IIRC
might have been the first?
stable basin
ah ... yeah I must not really remember 5's well because unsync it just zips by
stable basin
9999 I think for Thordan's, and same for Zurvan IIRC
stable basin
so does uwu have bits where your MP gets refilled spontaneously like during the original ultima fight?
... yup I actually didn't even realize till tonight that when you fight Ultima in Praetorium when Hydaelyn tells you to look to the Light your MP gets refilled
heavy mist
doesnt look like it
heavy mist
whats the problem
steep iris
we always get killed by 2 super cyclones
heavy mist
cause u have 2 stacks on both people
who are tethered
make the OT proc his 2 stacks
make him stack for one
and move him out
steep iris
MT stays on 2 stacks?
heavy mist
yeh
steep iris
kk
steep iris
gotcha, thanks a lot!
heavy mist
np, should resolve the problem
heavy mist
1 stack u take no dmg
regardless of who it is
well not no dmg, but its pretty minimal
steep iris
ahhh gotcha
paper torrent
LAUGHS IN GARUDA
wet stag
Heehee HAHA hahaha HEEHEE haha HEEEEEE!!
urban vapor
That picture is quite artistic considering everything trying to kill you while taking it
wet stag
Safe spot is the landslide inside wheel btw
sleek belfry
Yeah, toward either top or the bottom of that landslide, then walk into the wheel after the first set of mechanics set off
heavy mist
Haru has done it successfully befor
its just on the opposite side of the arean away from ultima
lusty oak
how woken Ifrit charge works?
wet stag
As in during ifrit or quartet
wet stag
It's just a super wide dash with the X after
So you gotta look at where he is to avoid the X
lusty oak
both
boreal edge
its on the order u killed nails
1st nail killed is where 1st dash coming
keep 1st and last nail killed on 1 side
wait no
heavy mist
Sadly i dont have enough experience with ifrit
lusty oak
no, i meant how it goes: like woken wheel is point blanc + donut after
boreal edge
then go back to 3rd
lusty oak
so i read woken charge is dash + explosion
heavy mist
yes
