#endgame-lounge

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last galleon
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but you aren't gonna know that the first time through

dull radish
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Mhmm

unreal flax
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It looks like they had M2 already up

dull radish
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They did, yeah

unreal flax
sour solstice
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the people running from the group sure didnt help

last galleon
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yeah i'm wondering if there was a particular reason they weren't stacked afterwards

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or just 'idk what we're doing cuz first time'

unreal flax
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!action whispering wind

storm frostBOT
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**Whispering Dawn** : lvl 1 None (60 second cooldown)

Gradually restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 100
Duration: 21s
When Obey is active, will only execute upon command.

unreal flax
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lol dawn

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So, they had both HoTs up when Doom went off

dull radish
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Oh, did that have WD up too?

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Dang

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Well, still shouldn't be bad if they are more prepared

unreal flax
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Prolly didn't have Indom + Assize, etc.

sour solstice
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looked like no indom

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yeah

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or planery

pine beacon
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WD/Medica II up, and a cure iii near the end of the cast

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:blobsweat:

lunar carbon
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time to swiftcast mewpaissa

unreal flax
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Basically White Hole.

lunar carbon
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WHM regen bubble

sour solstice
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oh yeah

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no Asylum

dull radish
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Yeah, there's plenty of other things that can be added in to try

sour solstice
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didnt see a largesse either

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plenty of things

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oh wait

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there is an asylum

lunar carbon
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possibly having it up before doom starts

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so it ticks during the stun

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what if

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Cover one of the healers

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assuming it will nullify the 'stun'

sour solstice
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it wont

lunar carbon
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then nevermind.

sour solstice
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I dont think anyone tried

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but im 99% sure it wont

sturdy shell
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it's not a heal check, another elysium group topped off and still wiped

sour solstice
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orly

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maybe you gotta be near the edge

dull radish
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Or run into the wall. Or some real weird answer haha

sour solstice
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the clip above has them standing in the tentacles

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I think thats what did it

unreal flax
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holy shit imagine running into the wall to survive

sturdy shell
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but then what happens, Lahabrea ressurects you?

sour solstice
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thats some galaxy brain

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no

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Hydy would

dull radish
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Maybe it's like beyond death

sour solstice
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if that was the answer

sturdy shell
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maybe doom is like living dead sorta

unreal flax
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Maybe it's just Beyond Death but disguised as d-- GODDAMMIT RIKA

dull radish
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<3

unreal flax
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<3_<3

blissful solstice
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Ok

dull radish
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Well, mass suicide and edge and spreading out are wrong

blissful solstice
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You have to use Caster LB seems like

dull radish
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Yeah you do, unless there's something weird with that too

sturdy shell
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caster lb is required

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i think it can hit all of them...?

dull radish
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It does

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People have gotten past that

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And haven't figured out the next thing

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Well, at least among groups streaming prog

sturdy shell
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i mean if it can't hit all of them you can have everyone else burn down the one bit not hit

dull radish
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It does hit all of them

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One-shot

sturdy shell
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so what does everyone else do?

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that's probably key

dull radish
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Chill and await their literal doom

grizzled seal
sturdy shell
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to figuring out how doom works

grizzled seal
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not a heal check

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wtf..

dull radish
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Yeah

sturdy shell
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yeah

dull radish
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Just keep spiny plume alive all that time, certainly the answer~

grizzled seal
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just cover a whm

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and start rezzing afterwards

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πŸ€”

dull radish
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Maybe you have to use playdead emote, lahabrea assumes you're already dead and won't give you doom

grizzled seal
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.

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i wonder if you can kill them without lb3

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the magitek stuff

dull radish
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Not realistically

grizzled seal
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seems pretty fast

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how much damage does caster lb do

dull radish
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A heck of a lot

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You can like, burn down maybe 2 bits manually

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Maybe 3 but that's really pushing it

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Probably just some weird slightly cryptic thing, possibly involving other parts of the fight

blissful solstice
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Yeah you can't kill all of them without LB

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So Lahabrea just shows up and kills you after you kill the bits

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Nice

sturdy shell
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you need lb

sour solstice
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Inb4 it checks for act

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And dooms the parsers

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xd

sturdy shell
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wait, when the bits spawn, a healer walks into the wall and dies, the other healer casts raise on them. The bits explode, just as the other healer is coming back, and that healer lb3s....?

sour solstice
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》6 bars of lb

sturdy shell
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lb3 is used by the healer, not the caster

sour solstice
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Explosion likely goes through rez immunity

sturdy shell
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what if you're in the animation for being ressed

sour solstice
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Likely still kills you

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But we'll see

sturdy shell
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never know until u try

dull radish
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You can't really healer LB3 cheese to try to get around both bits and doom

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I dunno haha

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Actual answer is probably more interesting anyways

last galleon
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So not top off, not mass suicide, not spread

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Anything else people have tried?

lyric kelp
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/pray

sour solstice
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What if its a tertiary DPS check?

last galleon
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lol

dull radish
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People are theorizing giving previous primals stacks

sour solstice
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Did someone actually try /pray?

blissful solstice
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It wouldn't be anything that involves keyboard

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They don't want to screw console players

sour solstice
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You can bind that

lyric kelp
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does ifrit and titan give any stacks?

sour solstice
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Its an emote

last galleon
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The fact that doom has a timer instead of just insta death makes me think there’s still something to be done at that point, but it could also be a misdirection

dull radish
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Ifrit, you can hit nails with eruption

scenic patrol
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got an orange Godka log

sour solstice
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Hit one nail with all eruptions

scenic patrol
sour solstice
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What if its a death check

lyric kelp
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πŸ€”

sour solstice
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"Die less than x times or get doomed"

lyric kelp
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what if you need to arf before you zone in to get a quest item

dull radish
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Zero aether stacks or max stacks are pretty interesting theories

lyric kelp
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has anyone checked if the doom tooltip is the standard one?

sturdy shell
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aetherflow?

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if it was new it'd be datamined

sour solstice
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What aether stack?

sturdy shell
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wind stack from garuda...?

dull radish
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On Garuda it's like, taking the tether with 2 stacks, ifrit it's hitting nails with eruptions or whatever

sour solstice
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O

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Bombing gaols on titan?

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Idk why it would be to not do those things

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That would be a big brain red herring out of SE

lyric kelp
dull radish
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Folks apparently are trying for it haha

sullen sable
last galleon
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lol hiromu's joking about using yol dance to remove doom now

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suddenly need a 60+ crafter/gatherer to do ultimate

visual geyser
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This Ultimate gonna be cleared in 3 dayssoulsurrender β™Ώ splat

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They made it to easy this Time

sour solstice
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eh

flint shore
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people are stuck rn

sour solstice
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too early to say

last galleon
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people still haven't seen ultima yet afaik

sour solstice
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considering no one has SEEN ultima

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that we know of

flint shore
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^

lyric kelp
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well none of the streamers at least

last galleon
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i would withold judgment on difficulty until people actually clear it day 3 or something

lyric kelp
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people got too tilted by leaked golden bahamut vid last time pepehands

visual geyser
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I was kidding

stark onyx
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Happy is trying to force woken stacks on Garuda atm.

visual geyser
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But I feel people are progressing faster on this one

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Did we see 3 bosses day one last time?

sour solstice
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Nael enrage

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some people saw baha

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I think

lyric kelp
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i'm sure wf groups saw to trios

sour solstice
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I dont think anyone saw golden

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ok

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so

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Hopefully the woke thing isnt the answer

lyric kelp
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well trios were the major block for a lot of groups

sour solstice
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because this seems retarded

spring dock
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this uwu prog sounds fuckin weird

lyric kelp
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doing gcd prog that late into a fight

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uwu prog is now a mystery theater

spring dock
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plot twists

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fuckin hell

stable basin
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so people need to screw up for all three primal ?

spring dock
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uhh

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they have to

sour solstice
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it seems so

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which is

spring dock
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yeah idk

stark onyx
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You have to screw up while surviving.

stable basin
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oh wow the Dev team are evil

stark onyx
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Crazy

spring dock
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punch urself in the gut while u fight

vague anchor
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yea

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you gotta Wake the primals up xD

stark onyx
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You have to do mechanics precisely to get woken stacks while not dying in the process.

vague anchor
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^

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so people getting to the bits and dying have been doing the fight wrong the entire time, gotta start over from scratch now πŸ˜„

stark onyx
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It completely changes the primal fights

stable basin
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just send a catgirl to each of the primal to awake them then >.<

spring dock
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this is some galaxy brain shit

stark onyx
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But also lets you progress and see all 3 primals mechanics.

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It’s genius. Evil genius.

vague anchor
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yeap πŸ˜›

stable basin
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but wow that's a really big plot twist

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bigger then the plot even

peak nymph
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top 10 anime betrayals?

vague anchor
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its pretty funny imo lol

stable basin
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how soon until it's top 10 hentai

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lol

visual geyser
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THATS SO LIT

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Omg that's amazing

stable basin
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so how did people even find out about that !?

visual geyser
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What a twist

last galleon
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oh is the woke buff thing confirmed?

visual geyser
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Mrhappy seems to have pieced it together?

sour solstice
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not confirmed

last galleon
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yeah but has his group gone ahead and executed it

sour solstice
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they are trying it

last galleon
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is my question

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ok

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cool

stable basin
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World first just got alot more crazy

sour solstice
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REGRESSION STREAM

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LETS GO

dusky moth
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uwu has owoken

stable basin
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Everyone have to throw away what they learn over the years and play like a newbie

lyric kelp
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Neo Ultima is too woke for ff raiders

stable basin
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the Dev just like to watch the world burn

lyric kelp
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Feels like an extended gavel, but gavel actually had a tooltip

shadow pollen
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this amazing

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I love it

sturdy shell
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mess up and not die?!

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Raiders: "Lol this is ez compared to Nael"

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SE: "Woke"

vague anchor
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it's mostly confirmed atm

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@stable basin combination of datamining and guessing what to do to trigger the effects seen from datamining

silent path
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I would crack myself up if that would be for nothing

vague anchor
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yeah, it's possible that they're doing it all for nothing

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but

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supposedly Woke Garuda leaves behind a puddle when she dies

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and someone running into it gets some kind of buff and it disappears

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so.. that's definitely a new mechanic

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and given how much harder it is than the 'normal' way theyve been doing the fight, people are thinking its intended

silent path
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Yeah tbh I was thinking it was way easy as it was before

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Didn't seemed that ultimate lol

vague anchor
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yea lmao, that's the other thing... "I KNEW this fight seemed too easy before, it all makes sense now!@"

silent path
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Yeah legit like some friends wanted to do that today at morning and I joined em for a bit we reached like 60% first pull. We were like naah

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This isn't the fight xD

vague anchor
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xD

sturdy shell
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maybe they expected us to datamine this and figure it out

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SE playing 90-D chess

vague anchor
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lmao, maybe

sour solstice
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if these guys can prog uwu

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I can do o6s

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so lets go boys

normal mesa
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i believe in u

sturdy shell
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yay!

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Yoshi-P playing the loooong game

sour solstice
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W O K E

normal mesa
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A G A R U D A A W O K E N I N G

vague anchor
sour solstice
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just went and checked all my train logs

blissful solstice
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Sooo

sour solstice
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I never hit 17 CPM

blissful solstice
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How do you get the primals to wake?

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@sour solstice what job

sour solstice
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WHM

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im still like

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high green

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blue historic

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with that low cpm

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which is extra feelschromosomeman

blissful solstice
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healer parses are weird anyway

dull radish
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garuda = cleanse stacks of 2. Ifrit = grow nails by hitting them with eruptions. Titan = ??? maybe something to do with sludge left behind when you blow up gaols

sour solstice
sturdy shell
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Mr Happy theory:
Breaking Limits allows a person to use an LB3 after an LB3 is used. So:
'Normal LB3' Magitek bits
'Awoken LB3 #1' Healer LB3 after magitek bits
'Awoken LB3 #2' Tank LB3 for Ultima entrance similar to Bahamut

last galleon
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that would be an interesting solution to the mechanic

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and pretty fittingly epic tbh

vague anchor
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yea, its only a theory for now though T_T

last galleon
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so i guess the idea behind that is one tank, healer and caster get one of each of the puddles left behind by the awoken primals

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and chain lb3

vague anchor
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Titan can't be woken

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afaik

last galleon
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ohhh

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interesting

vague anchor
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only 2 buffs for that in the dats, so Garuda and Ifrit only

last galleon
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like there are only two woken buffs in the data?

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i see

vague anchor
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yea :3

last galleon
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lol metagaming the prog too

vague anchor
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#1529 and #1591

last galleon
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hm i wonder how titan fits in all this then

vague anchor
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1526,"Thermal High","The wind has died. Resistance to wind damage is increased."
1527,"Accursed Flame","Sustaining fire damage over time."
1528,"Aetherially Charged","Charged with aether."
1529,"Woken","Overcharged with aether."
1530,"Beyond Limits","Hypercharged with aether."
1578,"Searing Wind","Ignited by white-hot embers and scorching those nearby. Sustaining fire damage over time."
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there's also this, which was added in 4.3 (not 4.31)

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1547,"True Self","Maximum HP, damage dealt, and HP recovered via healing magic are increased."

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I think that's part of the fight though, and it was just added a patch early (SE does that sometimes)

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but yeah, this whole thing has me laughing XD it's awesome

sturdy shell
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Breaking Limits restores LB3

sour solstice
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that was the theor

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is it true?

sturdy shell
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but it does not remove doom

last galleon
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maybe healer lb3 does

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?

frank nimbus
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maybe now you need everyone to be full hp?

unreal flax
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Specifically for this fight

frank nimbus
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via healer lb3

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πŸ€”

silent path
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now we starting the prog guys

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exept titan he is a bitch doesn't awake

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always sleeping

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Kappa

last galleon
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is it confirmed that beyond limit only restores lb bars when the person with the buff uses lb?

primal belfry
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what if its DPS, then Healer, then she blesses you again

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then you tank

vague anchor
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Titan's always been Woke

primal belfry
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Under the Woke

vague anchor
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@last galleon all we know is that Happy's group had the SMN with the buff, and they had him use LB3 to kill the Magitek Bits. Then they had their LB3's refill (and the SMN kept his buff) after the bits died

last galleon
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ah i see

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hm interesting that the buff persists

vague anchor
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so they could've healer LB3'd there if they'd been paying close attention

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yea o.o

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I'm thinking that it'll transform into a different buff later on in the Weapon phase, but i'm just purely guessing

primal belfry
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I was thinking that since the tentacles hit twice

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there might be a scripted thing where you go DPS LB3 on Bits > Healer LB3 on Doom > Tank LB3 on Post Doom Lahabrea bullshit

vague anchor
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thats possible yea

last galleon
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yeah, that seems likely at this point

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and maybe the 3s of doom before it goes off is for lb3?

vague anchor
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yep :3

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Healer LB3 to save your ass from Doom imo

primal belfry
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like he gets hella mad you somehow survived that

vague anchor
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then after.. we'll see!

last galleon
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i wondered for a while why they even bothered to give a timer instead of just insta kill at that point

primal belfry
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and then just drops Ultima Weapon with a raid wide AOE that insta wipes without Tank LB3

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like divine judgement

last galleon
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in the meanwhile ranged LB3 cries in distance

unreal flax
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I'm gonna die laughing if Ultima appears before a 2s cast of Ultima

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Like, "You thought you'd pre-cast? NOT THIS TIME, NERDS"

sour solstice
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swift

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op

lament dawn
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So I was told if 40k or more hp was restored Doom automatically clenses

normal mesa
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so lb3

last galleon
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topping off tanks probably takes more than 40k and they still died in that one clip

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huh i guess in that clip they had a shield and tanks didn't quite lose 40k. i still kidna doubt normal healing would be able to cleanse it though.

unreal flax
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Yeah, it drops you to 1hp, not a portion of HP, so to top of nearly anyone, you should be above 40k

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At least, that's what Happy was saying

last galleon
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and with the beyond limit buff people have discovered it seems unlikely that normal healing is the solution to that doom mechanic

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in that case you won't need to wake both garuda and ifrit if you only need one lb3 recharge

primal belfry
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guys

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what if this is meant to train you the way the fight works

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and Ultima will every rotation check his aether levels

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and if they are too charged or under charged he wipes you

vague anchor
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

primal belfry
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Under charged means you get Doomed

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Over charged means his Ultima will kill everyone

vague anchor
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Ifrit = hit his nails with eruptions, then kill the nails lol

primal belfry
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what if Beyond Limits

unreal flax
primal belfry
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is a call out to the skill Limit Break

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Which drastically pushed the cap of a character's damage (9999 -> 99999)

steady pebble
unreal flax
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Ah

vague anchor
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yea, there's that too

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kek.

lunar carbon
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I think he'd be grinning instead

vague anchor
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lol, probably

lunar carbon
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just grinning.

vague anchor
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what about that?

lunar carbon
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but wew

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12 hours, savage

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I mean...ultimate

stable basin
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Oh dear. You mean if you do it what seems like the right way you actually screw yourself and don't find out till a later phase?

sour solstice
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wow

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yall werent kidding when you said O6 is healer cancer

normal mesa
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yeah

sour solstice
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because I feel like I have cancer now

normal mesa
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that's what they found out nadine

stable basin
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Not that that really surprises me come to think of it

normal mesa
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you have to fail in garuda and ifrit in the CORRECT way

stable basin
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JRPGs have always loved screwball mechanics like that, I'm surprised it took this long for xiv to get them

normal mesa
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nah we've had em

stable basin
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Now I'm thinking of things like Demifiend from DDS1 :D

lunar carbon
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do you mean like

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fights with dead ends?

hot plover
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How much does determination have an impact on BRD DPS?

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sitting at 2300 crit, 660 det, 1400 DH, 1400 SKS

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Not doing the DPS i'd like to

last galleon
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having a SCH and DRG in your comp will matter much more than any kind of determination you stack

hot plover
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I had both of them

last galleon
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you are missing like 300-400 det if we consider current bard BiS, but it depends on what you mean by the DPS you'd like to be doing. that missing det won't magically give you 10 percentile perf increase, for example.

hot plover
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Idk my SkS is pretty high, I need more mendacity gear cause half of the savage gear ain't doing me too good

wet stag
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Shouldn't make that big of a difference

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What dps are you outputting now?

hot plover
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5.2-5.5K in O6S

last galleon
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what wep?

wet stag
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Seems like

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That's player skill

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Det won't help you magically hit 6k

hot plover
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Tsuku

last galleon
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6k is 90 perf for bard lol. i wouldn't use that as the standard.

wet stag
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Oh

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Still tho

hot plover
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I don't want to trade det for crit

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and idk why I have so much SkS

wet stag
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Why would you not want more crit

last galleon
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but yeah, i agree with your point. det won't get you a noticeable increase.

normal mesa
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crit is king on brd

hot plover
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Sorry

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meant crit for det

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I'm trying to cap crit

wet stag
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Yeah don't do that

hot plover
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I just need the mendacity restriction to be lifted

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cause half of the savage gear for BRD is shit

last galleon
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not gonna happen until like one month before 4.4

wet stag
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But this would be a rotation issue

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Not substats

hot plover
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also procs

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I had a decent amount last run

last galleon
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tbf i don't go bard this tier so i can't tell if 50 perf with tsuku weapon is fine or not, but if you're looking to improve your dps substats is not where i'd start looking

hot plover
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what main are you @last galleon

last galleon
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smn

sour solstice
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@wet stag i tried 6

wet stag
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Lol

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How was it

sour solstice
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Cancer

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I was paint bitch

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And OT kept dying to random autos

wet stag
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It's not random autos

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The ot is constant getting hit

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*constantly

last galleon
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they get blasted by goddess the whole time

wet stag
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Yeah

sour solstice
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I know

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My co let them die

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And i got blamed because "no regen wtf"

paper torrent
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Usually healers and ranged are paint bitch just depends on what paint

sour solstice
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Pinm

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Pink

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Im gonna check logs

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But im almost certain there was no rampart used

paper torrent
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rip typhoon bitch

sour solstice
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I wouldnt be so salty if the ot wasnt like

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"No heals"

last galleon
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"No CDs"

sour solstice
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Whenever he died

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Like

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Do you need those cds bud

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Last time i checked the only thing you have to fucking do

last galleon
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they do need to save some for last kiss

sour solstice
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Is kiss

wet stag
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What tank was the ot

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I'm assuming pld?

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If it's the ot

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Just sheltron sentinel

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Actually I'm fairly certain sheltron rampart is enough

sour solstice
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2 WAR

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pf LUL

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like im 99% sure I couldve played that way better

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yeah im sitting there with my usual 16 cpm

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because im retarded

paper torrent
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Double warrior is actually one of the only times that fucks you up

pine beacon
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RIP

sour solstice
pine beacon
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And yes, can confirm that Rapmart/Sheltron is enough. But it's spooky as fuck

sour solstice
#

OT casts

#

6:22 was the time

#

man I wonder why the heals are having problems

wet stag
#

1 rampart blobsweat

pine beacon
#

After the first spawn of goddess

#

You literally just use Rampart on cooldown

#

Gale --> Rampart after

#

Ez

#

Pz

wet stag
#

Akso

sour solstice
#

this is pretty average for me tho

wet stag
#

I should get my exdad clear so I can enter ucob

sour solstice
#

I just

#

have some sort of mental block

#

and struggle to get 17 cpm

#

no idea why

last galleon
#

when in doubt just press stone?

#

70% active is pretty low for a dummy fight

pine beacon
#

It sounds like you're probably trying to anticipate mechanics.

#

Which is just

#

Learning when things actually go out

sour solstice
#

funny thing is

#

thats my exact same uptime

#

for O5

last galleon
#

casting the suboptimal thing is better than not casting anything

sour solstice
#

dummy fight aint got nothin to do with it

#

Ah

#

I found the problem

#

my MO macro casted regen on the wrong target twice

#

coincidentally right where he died

wet stag
#

I click the party list

last galleon
#

same

sour solstice
#

im too used to hover healing

wet stag
#

I havent healed savage or ex bc frankly that shit terrifies me

#

But that's what I do in roulettes

last galleon
#

i'm too distrusting of macros

sour solstice
#

Maybe I should just swap to tank main tho

#

im finding it kinda hard to focus on 4 things

wet stag
#

Tanking is pretty blobmorning

sour solstice
#

or I could got full retard

#

and swap to a dps main

wet stag
#

Rdm main

sour solstice
#

ah

#

sounds perfect

#

but seriously tho

#

that felt harder than 5

#

by a substantial amount

#

from a healing perspective

#

like god

#

the fight looks so easy from a tank/dps side of things

#

but the healing just felt crushing

last galleon
#

yeah o6s is a striking dummy for dps

sour solstice
#

maybe ill become a DRK main

last galleon
#

DRK is pretty comfy in o6s

sour solstice
#

!whoclasses @sour solstice

storm frostBOT
#

Classes for <Yalia Sagewhisper>

Dark Knight

64

Warrior

70

Arcanist

6

White Mage

70

Pugilist

11

Astrologian

44

Machinist

37

Bard

70

Dragoon

38

Samurai

54

Red Mage

58

sour solstice
#

im almost there

lament dawn
#

I remember seeing an aoe destroying gaols instantly even though they still had hp by an aoe, maybe that's how you awaken titan, but only after awakening garuda and ifrit before getting titan

sour solstice
#

and I already have a decent amount of gear for it

#

since I play WAR

last galleon
#

lol that arcanist 6

sour solstice
#

its my "potd and shoot the shit with my bud" class

#

See I can handle AoE healing

#

for some reason healing both tanks is just feelschromosomeman

#

Its probably because I played Holy in wow

#

so I didnt have to heal both tanks

#

I just healed one and they were magically both full HP

last galleon
#

o8s prog is basically wait for healers to figure out healing rotation prog

wet stag
#

My o8s prog was wait for Faye to stop fucking up prog

sour solstice
#

im gonna keep tryin tho

#

maybe someday ill even hit 1 cast every 3 fucking seconds

last galleon
#

just spam that stone button just do it

wet stag
#

Ahk stone 4 haha

vital cypress
#

savage is bad

last galleon
#

what is that, ahk morn but with rocks?

#

or ahk morn by a stoned bahamut?

wet stag
#

Autohotkey

trim cloak
#

Verstoned

wet stag
blissful solstice
#

So do we know how to wake titan yet

last galleon
#

it may not be possible since there is no woke buff for titan

#

according to the dataminers

silent path
#

i'm so confused rn

#

about titan woke status

#

someone speaking on twitch chat that there is a dialogue after all

#

according to reddit post

#

idk my life anymore in ff14

#

full of lies

last galleon
#

and if the theory about lb3 chain is correct, you don't need three people to have beyond limit status

blissful solstice
#

So the theory is like

#

Caster LB3 to kill adds -> Healer LB3 to cleanse Doom -> Tank LB3 to not die

#

Or smth?

heavy mist
#

yes

#

that is the current theory

last galleon
#

I’d love for someone to skip woke ifrit and just find out if healer lb 3 cleanses doom. And maybe see what wipes you afterwards.

normal mesa
#

same

#

just to find out

#

but inb4 you have to have them both or it doesn't matter

#

as in, the doom is not cleansed without both

quasi totem
#

seems like they found out what the buff does it gives the person the opportunity to use lb3 without using up the bars

high ether
#

oh wow

#

that is neat

vague anchor
#

nah

#

it uses the bars

#

it just instantly recharges after

quasi totem
#

but also means that a caster needs to eat one buff too right? for the magitek bits

vague anchor
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

noone's gotten that far to see

wet stag
#

Hez

#

That's functionally the same thing

vague anchor
#

my theory is that anyone in the pt having it will reset the LB after its used, it doesn't have to be a specific job.. but we'll see

#

@wet stag I agree. But when it comes to certain people and certain mechanics, you have to be pedantic and accurate. Someone will watch the video or do the fight and see their LB bar disappear, then come around bitching that "YOU GUYS LIED MY LB BARS GOT USED UP!" before they realize they refilled..

#

Saves a headache letter from idiots, to be pedantic now :\

wet stag
#

Fair enough

#

But if they're that dumb

quasi totem
#

yeah I can totally see that happen lmao

wet stag
#

They shouldnt be in uwu in the first place haha

last galleon
#

Though, if it’s any job I wonder why they don’t make it a party wide stacking buff

vague anchor
#

I agree

#

but

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

last galleon
#

It’s a single target buff right now so it makes you wonder

#

I think people are going to give it to caster and healer to be safe

vague anchor
#

yea, probably

quasi totem
#

if it would be party wide stacking buff you couldn't gather two tho? o3o

vague anchor
#

we'll see if the Weapon phase at the end does anything with the buff later, so we'll see

normal mesa
#

For all we know, you'll get done with these three, get into the Ultima part of the fight

#

and then have all three out again and ultima

#

for all we know gaius/lahabrea/etc could come into it

#

when folks were on nael, other than when the datamines happened, we couldn't have known about the transition with phoenix ye?

heavy mist
#

we knew

normal mesa
#

because of the datamines

heavy mist
#

we just didnt know like how it was done

normal mesa
#

yeah

heavy mist
#

we knew about the phoenix buff

hybrid rapids
#

Nobody knows if we will be fighting ultima or laha yet

sturdy shell
#

yeah there was a buff

hybrid rapids
#

On phase 4

normal mesa
#

i'm just saying if they aren't using new NAMES

#

there's nothing to be found in datamine ye?

heavy mist
#

theres buffs

normal mesa
#

no i mean

#

-rubs temples-

#

I mean we can't disprove until the fight is done that there won't be weird shit like having to fight laha or something yeah?

#

is this correct?

sturdy shell
#

eh

#

they could recycle the models

wet stag
#

Someone was saying

normal mesa
#

and without datamining we couldn't tell at all

#

yes?

wet stag
#

What if you need to use ranged lb3 to hit oob laha

#

Which would be hilarious ngl

#

That actually seems like a genius mechanic

hybrid rapids
#

lmao

#

It cost a lot to test tho

sturdy shell
#

this woke mechanic is genius

heavy mist
#

perhaps it gets worse

#

πŸ‘€

sturdy shell
#

they literallly baited all of the world first teams

hybrid rapids
#

I’m a filthy casual waiting for guides

heavy mist
#

need to do it early to get the pug practice

#

when people actually wanna try it

#

:/

sturdy shell
#

@hybrid rapids yeah

#

I got burned doing terrible strats for tsukyomi

stable basin
#

Mr Happy guides are hazardous to your health

#

MTQ ftw

wet stag
#

Both of them are meh

#

Graehl is best

#

But his guides are always so late

hybrid rapids
#

Late is good

#

So you won’t read those guides released earlier just for the sake of gaining views

#

An actual guide have to confirm and verify each mechanic

#

Back in a11s, a good guide have to know hp % to skip certain mechanic

#

Bad guide just record what they have seen

last galleon
#

I love graehl guides too but I think his o5s came out like two months into the tier or something

wet stag
#

Yeah

hybrid rapids
#

I read text guide because they are always the accurate one

#

And much faster

silent path
#

but ur lala is ugly

last galleon
#

MTQ has generally been pretty good balance between speed and non cancer strat

hybrid rapids
#

Your ugly

wet stag
#

Tsun have you seen grael's guides

silent path
#

ur ugly

wet stag
#

They're actually so good

hybrid rapids
#

I didn’t said it’s bad

silent path
#

what's the current status btw on ultimate ?

wet stag
#

@last galleon "mitigate and heal and necessary"

silent path
#

anyone got past the doom ?

hybrid rapids
#

I just said text guide is faster

wet stag
#

"mitigate and heal as necessary"

hybrid rapids
#

A good guide is fine to be late

wet stag
#

No I know

#

But I recommend just taking a look at least

#

They're πŸ…±retty good

hybrid rapids
#

MTQ guide is short and missing details

#

More like an overview of the fight

#

Rather than an actual guide

wet stag
#

Yeah

#

Horizontal atomic ray haha

hybrid rapids
#

I think the most lethal one was a12s

#

Omg

#

The tether

#

She only mentioned one set of pattern

#

But there were more patterns that she missed

last galleon
#

I just use powerful JP overlord guides these days

hybrid rapids
#

I do respect her added them back later when received criticizing

#

But yes, you can’t just take footages of players who actually cleared it

#

And make it as your part of guide

#

Instead of doing it yourself

lament dawn
#

Mrhappy just beat Woke Ifrit

sour solstice
#

and then titan RIP

sturdy shell
#

titan can be woke fml

vague anchor
#

yea, fml

#

this changes what I know about Status effects then, lmao

#

coulda sworn on my life that every single effect was tied to one enemy/boss, but apparently they can share.

sturdy shell
#

good job dataminers

full wave
#

Mrhappy just figured out how to awaken Titan

vague anchor
#

he thinks he has lmao, he's gotta put it into practice though

#

to me it looks like killing the Gaol does it, but eh

torn kindle
#

I think he would've gotten woke stacks in earlier attempts if it was simply from killing gaols near him

vague anchor
#

yea.. true

simple mist
#

Is that last gaol supposed to drop a puddle?

vague anchor
#

something about 'chain it to the far side and walk him through it'

dull radish
#

yeah I thought I had seen it earlier on a stream

#

but a gaol exploded via one of those bombs, can explode another gaol near it

#

so you can kinda chain them in a line

#

and make a line of those puddles

vague anchor
#

"we need him standing in an aoe"

simple mist
#

The last gaol doesn't spawn a puddle and kinda glows. But I may just be seeing things

vague anchor
#

"chain the bomb explosions to the other side of the room"

#

Happy's doing his final pull of the night

heavy mist
#

rip

#

time to wait til tmrw

vague anchor
#

yea

wet stag
#

Happy sounds like he wants to kill himself

#

At the end of that clip

vague anchor
#

lol

#

he's so happy right now

torn kindle
#

How far did Xeno get? I didn't get to watch much of his progression

vague anchor
#

"GOD THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB! WE THOUGHT THEY WERE SHIT BUT WE WERE WRONG!"

heavy mist
#

ultimate making people rethink SQEX's minds

vague anchor
#

yarp

heavy mist
#

would be hilarious in the future

#

if they redid some of these fights again

#

and had the woken status as a bait

wet stag
#

It's almost like sqex generally knows what they're doing

vague anchor
#

lmao yea

wet stag
#

Bruh

vague anchor
#

I'd like to know who did this fight

wet stag
#

🎣

vague anchor
#

I'll bet it was Mr Ozma

heavy mist
#

it is

#

you are correct

vague anchor
#

proof?

#

or rather, source? xD

heavy mist
#

yeh i know lemme see if i can find it

vague anchor
#

\o/

torn kindle
#

Mr Ozma is a man to be feared

vague anchor
#

and admired

#

lmao

torn kindle
#

I wonder who did Construct 7.
Probably a math teacher.

sour solstice
#

happy gone

#

F

torn kindle
#

F

vague anchor
#

yea he's done for the day lol

torn kindle
#

I wonder how much regression will happen tomorrow haha

heavy mist
#

hmm guess we dont have a source yet, but people are believing its him πŸ€”

#

probably gotta wait for yoshi to confirm

vague anchor
#

yea

#

hopefully someone asks him at E3

lament dawn
#

Get woke

sour solstice
#

fug

#

anyone know of another good eng stream

#

or do I need to just learn to speak weeb

vague anchor
#

speak weeb

sour solstice
#

sheeeet

wet stag
#

This is making me wanna learn ucob tbh

sour solstice
#

do it

wet stag
#

I'll start on the afternoon after my nap lol

#

I'm so sleepy rn

sour solstice
#

have you done exdad

wet stag
#

Lol

#

No

sour solstice
#

rip

#

gotta do that first

#

unless kek gives it to you as well

wet stag
#

I'm kinda hoping I can get carried through

#

I doubt it

#

I'll see if my static wants to run exdad

#

Since a couple other people haven't cleared it either

last galleon
#

kek doesn't give you ucob

#

but you can get carried through exdad with current gear levels

wet stag
#

Yeah

#

I'll look at a text guide

last galleon
#

also whew, i wonder what you need three beyond limit buffs for then, assuming that woke titan also gives a beyond limit

silent path
#

you can watch golden tot

last galleon
#

also would be hilarious if they did something to the status effects to deliberately troll dataminers

vague anchor
#

lawl

last galleon
#

SE playing this troll game on too many dimensions

torn kindle
#

Tot just got his views increased 6-fold

silent path
#

yeah

#

mr happy raided him

#

hosted whatever u wanna call it

vague anchor
#

hosted yea

silent path
#

tot is the one getting world first on this

#

tbh I though he was some kind of troller player

#

he is actually working out on titan awake

#

πŸ€”

blazing pelican
#

He's pretty funny, but he has beaten UCoB

torn kindle
#

The power of memes /s

vague anchor
#

lol, they were talking about needing to work on Ifrit earlier.. then a minute later they're working on Titan's enrage?

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

wet stag
#

@blazing pelican yes

sour solstice
#

that dab tho

vague anchor
#

lmao yea

sour solstice
#

my volume was a little high

#

it sure as shit isnt now

silent path
#

u all are fan bois

#

that's what u are

vague anchor
#

nou

lament dawn
#

I feel like the woke mechanics feel like a nod to when you get the crystals froom garuda ifrit and titan in ARR

wet stag
#

O4s looks like a fuckin mess

sour solstice
#

GRAND CROSS OMEGA

wet stag
#

Exfaust seems ok tho

vague anchor
#

yea @lament dawn I agree πŸ˜„

wet stag
#

Tfw

#

Just from reading the guides

#

Twintania seems easier than exdad

blissful solstice
#

O4S isn't bad

#

Exdad is easy if nobody screws up but if one person goofs everything dies instantly

wet stag
#

I mean isn't exdad p much clearable even if a dps dies

#

Since you just burn through the dps check now anyway

blissful solstice
#

i mean now i'm sure the fight is a joke in 370 gear

#

if a healer dies you might still wipe though

wet stag
#

Maybe a tank as well

#

Bc thunder 3

hybrid rapids
#

you still have to do GCO

#

it isn't a joke

#

you still wipe to it

#

but much much more forgiving

heavy mist
#

or healer lb3 it

elder dawn
#

neo is so braindead easy it's almost o6s level

#

big omnipositional fucker that doesn't even auto iirc

hybrid rapids
#

Famous Apple jinx

elder dawn
#

umaru yes that's me

hybrid rapids
#

🀀

elder dawn
heady widget
#

ugh trying to get a 04s party together or finding one is brutal

#

i just wanna unlock ult raids already lol

hybrid rapids
#

If you don’t have a group, it will be terrible to progress ucob

heavy mist
#

ikr

heady widget
#

unfortunately

#

havent found any statics fro O4s in my world

heavy mist
#

your data center?

heady widget
#

hyperion

heavy mist
#

no i meant are u looking through data center

#

and yeah o4s gonna be hard to find clears nowadays

heady widget
#

yea

#

and yea i figured lol

#

its frustrating

normal mesa
#

you can find a group outside hyperion

#

you aren't limited now cuz cross-world pf

heady widget
#

??

#

But that's been in the game

normal mesa
#

what, the party finder?

#

it used to be locked to world-only

#

now it's datacenter-wide

heady widget
#

Yea

#

I use data center

normal mesa
#

yeah because of that, you can try to find a static group for that

#

its on you to find one

heady widget
#

Yea finding a static for o4s is darn near impossible

#

Cuz everyone does O5s-O7s

normal mesa
#

because that's current

#

you'll see more interest in ucob statics but

#

you need to clear 4s and that's where you're at

#

you'll simply just have to have patience.

heady widget
#

I've been trying for months

#

Lool

normal mesa
#

well perhaps tackle sigma first? then convince the group to do delta + ucob?

heady widget
#

Either party disbands after 3-4 or ppl leave before party is fully formed

#

And no haven't tried that yet

blissful solstice
#

@heady widget what data center are you on

heady widget
#

Hyperion

blissful solstice
#

data center

#

not world

heady widget
#

Oh

blissful solstice
#

eg primal/aether

heady widget
#

Uhh

#

I believe primal

blissful solstice
#

oh hyperion is primal yeah

#

i can help you with o4s if you need a dps at some point, just ping me

heady widget
#

I made a cross world linkshell

#

So I could add ppl who'd be down for raids anytime

#

I'll make sure to hit you up

#

Would anyone else be willing to help me out?

fickle obsidian
#

Anybody know what BIS for SAM?

heady widget
#

'no

#

also these ff12 raids are brutal

supple sail
#

the raids aren't brutal

#

playing with PuGs is just brutal.

heady widget
#

why?

sour solstice
#

@fickle obsidian check pins

#

@heady widget which boss is givin you trouble?

heady widget
#

well happen to pop royal city for roulette

#

they annoying af

#

all the bosses lol

#

but ridorana

#

oh boy

#

construct 7 and yiaz

sour solstice
#

construct is blobsweatbutfast

#

Raba I dont find too bad

heady widget
#

quickmaths

normal mesa
#

ok correct me if i'm wrong but uh....a monk should be doing bootshine more than

#

twice

#

in lakshmi right?

#

cuz man this monk.... with 52 dragon kicks, is that....is that using it instantly?

native hound
#

yep

#

should be alternating between dragon kick and bootshine if they're doing the rotations right

#

as far as my knowledge goes about monk

scenic patrol
#

Aye

heady widget
#

as a monk

scenic patrol
#

Still better than a no dragon Kick Monk

heady widget
#

thats good to know

#

i never knew that

normal mesa
scenic patrol
#

They used one ilm punch

#

Kek

#

4 wind tackles and only one Riddle of Wind

#

That Monk is horrible

normal mesa
#

so is it as bad as I think it is? lol

#

I KNEW IT WASN'T JUST ME

#

LMFAO

#

he didn't even die

#

he didn't even die yall

scenic patrol
#

One Ilm punch shouldn't even be on your hotbars

normal mesa
#

needless to say we left that 'farm' party

#

the drk's best attack was an auto during confusion, too, so

heady widget
#

loool

#

i have twin snakes

#

instead of one llm punch

wet stag
#

Best attack being an auto during confusion is fine lol

#

That's like 80k or something

normal mesa
#

it was hilarious tho

vital bolt
#

Wondering when that "advanced" tutorial is coming

heady widget
#

wait what were yall doing>

#

*?

vital bolt
#

To at least teach what a basic rotation is to lvl 70 players

heady widget
#

i would like to learn lool

wet stag
#

5.x, probably

#

If at all

heady widget
#

im 70

#

but i probably been doing stuff wrong the whole time

wet stag
#

Read a guide

heady widget
#

been winging it mostly

#

and yea i will

wet stag
#

There are guides for almost every job

vital bolt
#

Partied with a PLD who used all defense cooldowns before a pull meme

heady widget
#

yea im trying to become more flexible with other classes

#

so even as a 52 pld im still a noob

#

cuz i recently started trying lvl up my tank class

#

so getting used to playing tank again

#

tho im a dps main

wet stag
#

52 pld

#

Goring halone halone repeat

#

That's your rotation

#

When you get royal authority replace halone with that

#

Also press your defensives

vital bolt
#

Also used Cover on random party members

#

Gotta give credit for that at least

#

Many forget it exists in general

heady widget
#

i replaced cover since i thought i didnt really need it atm

wet stag
#

Exhibit a

#

I guess it's only very slightly useful while leveling

#

But it's so good in raids lol

heady widget
#

lmap

#

*lmao

#

only used my pld in one raid so far

#

but thats good to know

wet stag
#

If it's a 24 man that doesn't count

#

I'm talking about endgame savage raids

normal mesa
#

raid means something very specific in the NA ffxiv community

heady widget
#

ohhh

#

yea know

normal mesa
#

"alliance raids" and "normal mode raid" are not "raiding"

heady widget
#

*no

normal mesa
#

they're casual content

scenic patrol
#

most advanced knowledge about this game only applies to savage raiding

normal mesa
#

extreme primals are midcore

wet stag
#

Yo johni

#

Have you tackled uwu yet

normal mesa
#

and then "raiding" is savage and ultimate

scenic patrol
#

not yet

#

maybe on thursday

heady widget
#

i only got 1 lvl 70 class which is mnk

scenic patrol
#

my main is Warrior and my off job is Monk

hybrid rapids
#

tfw savage is actually casual now

#

πŸ˜”

heady widget
#

so ive done most of alexander savage

hybrid rapids
#

most as in??

scenic patrol
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I wouldn't take savage so far down as being casual content

hybrid rapids
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midas and gordias?

heady widget
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a1s-a10s

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just have heart and soul yet

hybrid rapids
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when relevant?

heady widget
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*left

wet stag
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Savage is midcore now

hybrid rapids
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then you're good enough