endgame-lounge

[lucid karma]

10/10 static name

[scenic patrol]

For a Balance shit poster you are Awfully casual

Anyhow, don't take it wrong, it's just tongue in cheek

[stoic oasis]

hmm? whos that directed to?

[scenic patrol]

Wynne

[torn kindle]

I used to do final coil but i haven't had enough time to really commit since 3.0

I still like to flaunt my 99% Hashmal log of WHM like it matters.

[scenic patrol]

As long as your memes are top notch

Who cares

[torn kindle]

👌

99% in hashmal is probably a meme itself

so I can say I have a 99th parse

and post that :>

[scenic patrol]

Kek

[zinc vortex]

he's a balance shitposter

[lusty oak]

• Maintaining the matching improvements did, they'll be addressing all the bad points for PvP. It's a large scale adjustment.

u mean

complete overhaul?

[zinc vortex]

P V P

[lusty oak]

• Hall of Veteran (the opposite of Hall of Novice) implementation where players are taught skill rotations and its practice will be extremely difficult because it's hard to decide which direction of the rotation is "the most correct one", but YoshiP thinks it'd be nice to have lessons like how to manage DoTs, or efficiently build up RDM's mana gauge.

just give in-game link to Balance

after player dings 70

[zinc vortex]

just ask a mentor

[lucid karma]

Oh please average players can't even do rotation correctly let alone knowing class

[zinc vortex]

😌

surely theyll know

[lucid karma]

They can't handle Balance

Also reading guide is for loser

According to them

[zinc vortex]

Balance

[lusty oak]

i ran yesterday into monk in expert

who gets 3 stacks of GL

and tornado kicks them instantly

pack is still alive - he TK

boss 90% hp? He TK

[zinc vortex]

[ivory tiger]

arent you supposed to TK with like..

PB up

ready to get another stack on top of that

3rd stance

🤔

I want as little down time as possible bein greasy

[pine beacon]

If I recall correctly, it's with PB, under RoF

[ivory tiger]

yea

making downtime as strong as possible

[boreal edge]

i rather just keep it til i know i cant

sometimes i even forget it lol

[sullen sable]

Yo that papika emoji

[lunar carbon]

Seeing 0 dps healers makes me sad.

[sleek belfry]

[lunar carbon]

like

tank is topped

instead of DPSing a little

the healer stands still until it has to heal again

instead of applying dots or landing several stones/broils/malefics

;;

[lucid karma]

sounds like normal rabanastre run to me

[lunar carbon]

ugh

[lucid karma]

you know something is not right when tank is among top 3 DPS in the run

or, god helps us all, healer among top 5 dps

[lunar carbon]

R I P

game is hard

[stable basin]

technically it is, because the rotation that you would intuitively gravitate to is (almost?) always wrong compared to the ones that theorycraft determines to be optimal

[sour solstice]

what

[dull radish]

That's not even close to true haha

Most rotations are pretty much exactly what you would think they'd be

[steady pebble]

its usually the optimization shit thats where it gets hard, sorta

[sour solstice]

Only ones I can think of that are kinda weird are shit like Equi in the WAR opener

[boreal edge]

u dont need galaxy brain to figure out optimal rot

[dull radish]

That's not even "rotation" persay

[sour solstice]

yeah

[boreal edge]

there is just few changes

will be*

[sour solstice]

but shit like BLM you can figure out 90% of it without reading guides

[wet stag]

You know what isn't intuitive tho

The brd opener

[boreal edge]

i figured out sam rot without reading guides

[wet stag]

Where you dot, then straight shot, then ij

[boreal edge]

turned out exactly like i thought

[wet stag]

Well yeah Sam and BLM are p easy

*rdm

I mean

[sour solstice]

what

Oh

Wow I just looked at the guide and yeah thats p weird

[boreal edge]

all im saying you dont need a guide to know your rotation from. 0%

guide only take you from like 80%

to 100%

[dull radish]

yeah it's like, the overall rotation is generally pretty much always roughly what you'd expect, maybe different oGCD order or stuff to line up with party, but it's pretty much the same

there's just very minor nuances that don't generally change the overall flow, mostly just in opener for some jobs

[wet stag]

It'd be sick if sqex could team up with the balance to make the hall of the veteran

But that'd never happen

[sour solstice]

only one I would say that the game doesnt teach you is healers

[wet stag]

Bc if they do that it's basically admitting defeat

Yeah

[sour solstice]

For some reason people need to be told to DPS

[wet stag]

The game doesn't teach you how to heal at all

[boreal edge]

they said they wont make hall of veteran cause that will make their rots official

and we know

players find better rots than devs

[sour solstice]

yeah

[boreal edge]

like how ninja was in 4.0

[sour solstice]

also faye, did you see the updated translation

[wet stag]

?

[sour solstice]

• Dark Knight - In order to overhaul the job based on 100% what the players wanted will require huge changes and they can't really afford to compromise the patch schedule for this. They'd try their best as humanly possible to implement those changes that deals with the core problems, along with understanding the intention of what players have addressed. But for now, they've adjusted the job to be much easier on usability, along with increasing the core potencies on both attack and defense side.

Maybe its a translation thing

[stable basin]

Yeah WoW tried mandatory training sessions to queue heroic, it didn't work very well

[sour solstice]

but the wording on the first sentence implies they will rework DRK

[wet stag]

Yeah

[boreal edge]

drk personality is lost tbh

[wet stag]

Look I mean

I trust square

[sour solstice]

I also dont know what the fuck the WAR section means

[boreal edge]

along with its strengths

[sour solstice]

• Warriors, for now, has the image of players going gung-ho with the job.

[wet stag]

They're not gonna completely fuck it up

[sour solstice]

like seriously

what the fuck does that mean

[boreal edge]

gung-ho

[sour solstice]

I know what that means

[wet stag]

I think they mean current war is more gung ho than 4.1 war

Since 4.1 war was a stricter rotation

[boreal edge]

what gung ho is

[wet stag]

Now it feels more like

[sour solstice]

Does that mean that they are happy with the current state of WAR?

Like

[wet stag]

FUUUUCK YEEEAAAHH

I think so yes

[sour solstice]

ok

[wet stag]

I mean

Even tho war is easy af

It's pretty good and really optimizing is big vrain

Skill ceiling isn't as low as people think it is

[sour solstice]

yeah

a lot of it is figuring out when to onslaught dump

im still trying to figure that out

[wet stag]

I onslaught when I'm at 70-90 gauge and not gonna fell cleave soon

So like

If I've just used heavy swing and eye has 5s left

[sour solstice]

yeah

I often just FC there tho

[wet stag]

Yeah

I mean you're losing like

10% on eye

Big deal lol

That's like 20 ish potency

[sour solstice]

yeah

I definitely shouldnt at 80

but if im at 90 after a heavy

idk

I should onslaught there

but I generally forget the skill exists so

fun fact

I left the O5s dummy with 1% because I dropped an onslaught in IR

[wet stag]

Yeah it's whatever

Lmfao

It's k

I was trying to down the byakko dummy with i360 armor and the doma castle weapon

[sour solstice]

the doma castle weapon

[wet stag]

I got 1% left bc I maimed after IR lol

[sour solstice]

?

[wet stag]

Yeah

[sour solstice]

lmao

[pine beacon]

You just have to weigh whether you'll be using upheaval in the next 2 GCDs after you hit 90 gauge. (1 being heavy, 2 being maim which puts you at 100 gauge.) If Y, press upheaval, if N use onslaught

[wet stag]

Bc I just got my war to 70

[sour solstice]

I had a Farsha +1

[pine beacon]

Next path will put you at 100 gauge, then FC

Ezpz

[wet stag]

And was gonna get the mendacity weapon

After reset

So I was practicing on the weekend

[sour solstice]

I need to do eureka so I can get at least a +2

getting Anemos is gonna be a pain in the ass tho

[wet stag]

I'm only gonna do it after 4.3 drops

Bc they're buffing exp gain

[sour solstice]

4.36*

[pine beacon]

Anemos is a pretty nice stopgap until you get 370

[wet stag]

No I think they might add the exp buff in 4.3

To give people time to catch up

[sour solstice]

Thats a good point

Thanks for giving me a reason to be lazy faye

[wet stag]

Np

I kinda wanna do eureka but I'm actively putting it off lol

[pine beacon]

Eureka is not terrible, but it's def a grind. Once you're at 19/20, though it's ezpz

And exp gain becomes a lot easier at 11 or so

(19/20 being that you'll have resources for at least 2 weapons)

[wet stag]

Yeah im at 14 atm

And got a full set of smn +1 lol

[sour solstice]

you're 14

thats litterally like

[wet stag]

I can't fucking play smn

[sour solstice]

an hour

of the train

to hit 17

[wet stag]

Yeah but I'm lazy

[sour solstice]

and then pray they start running right side

[wet stag]

Also I could be running dungeons to level classes

Just hit brd 65 and mch 62 today

And whm 64

I'm so dang close

[pine beacon]

Niceu

[sour solstice]

you're almost to your true reward

[pine beacon]

Yeah, if you're leveling alt jobs, I'd wait for the nerf

[sour solstice]

the most important thing in the universe

[woeful prawn]

@sour solstice nice icon

nice name

[sour solstice]

!action Secret of the Useless II

[storm frost]

**Secret Of The Lily II** : lvl 68 White Mage (None second cooldown)

Grants a 20% chance that Asylum or Assize recast time is reduced by 5 seconds upon healing critical HP with Cure or Cure II.

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[sour solstice]

thanks

[pine beacon]

Eh. While it sucks that it was shoehorned in, it's such a non-integral part to the kit, that it's a non-issue.

So, it ends up being a nice little bonus if someone does the stupid, and makes you gcd heal

[sour solstice]

yeah

[wet stag]

Tbh

[sour solstice]

but its a 20%

[wet stag]

Lilies should be like bard procs

[sour solstice]

for crit heals

[pine beacon]

The only thing that makes me mad, is my Assize trick timer getting fucked up

[wet stag]

Yeah

[sour solstice]

which are like

15-20%

so its litterally never

[pine beacon]

It's 20% on crit heals, on top of the original reduction from lillies

Which is still shit

[sour solstice]

so its a 4% chance best case scenario

for 5s off assize

oh my bad

[pine beacon]

But, ye. Since it's not a resource management thing, it's nbd

[sour solstice]

theres also only a 50% chance its assize

littterally 2% chance to do something useful

[pine beacon]

🤷 If it wasn't there, it wouldn't be missed, but a bonus is a bonus.

Tbh

[sour solstice]

and you have to do something stupid to do it

[pine beacon]

Plenery stacks

Should have been

The gauge

[sour solstice]

But I agree with faye

shouldve worked like bard

[pine beacon]

If they procced off of regens, that'd be pneat

[woeful prawn]

plenary should give stacks even if you heal someone thats full

[sour solstice]

wait it doesnt

that explains a lot

[steady pebble]

yeah

[woeful prawn]

no and it makes me sad

[steady pebble]

you only get a stack if it actually heals

which...silly and annoying

honestly think 1/2 stacks should heal more but thats just me

[woeful prawn]

you could prep a 450 potency heal during forced downtime

[sour solstice]

150 pot ogcd heal is pretty

[steady pebble]

well, maybe not 2

[sour solstice]

for 1 stack

[steady pebble]

but 1 at the very least, i think, needs to be higher

[wet stag]

No I was thinking

Aero ticks

[sour solstice]

yeah

[wet stag]

[pine beacon]

2 stacks is pretty decent. Great for head on cheese

[sour solstice]

I'd like that

rewards you for being a good whm

[woeful prawn]

the one time i whm godka half my stacks wore off during forsaken 1 transition

so useless

[pine beacon]

That's why

You abuse the timer

And delay your second aoe heal

[woeful prawn]

gets fucked by a honest healer

thats why i want stacks on fullheal

or just not play whm

[sour solstice]

especially with those spicy ast changes

once my bard hits 70 thats where my leveling time is going

Astrologian - Improving on the cooldown when using cards, and MP consumption improved, including various minor details will be addressed. All forms of attack based spells will have their GCDs shortened, restoration spell effects and MP consumption will be improved. Overall, it's a major improvement on usability

like look at this shit

[woeful prawn]

yeah looks like free ogcd after every cast

comfy shit

[sour solstice]

maybe ill outdo Frey's 7% ast with my own 6 when I get it leveled

[grizzled seal]

ast getting buffs

whm back into the dumpster

[wet stag]

YO

VERTICAL ELEMENTS IN PAGOS

JUMP PUZZLES

Fuck yeah

[sour solstice]

Oh no

MMO jump puzzles

[wet stag]

Are we gonna get an NM that pushes people off

Pls

[sour solstice]

[wet stag]

And they have to jump back up

[steady pebble]

Nooo

[wet stag]

Pls say yes

[steady pebble]

i dont want to die

[lyric kelp]

But what if you've never left the dumpster

[grizzled seal]

😔

[cerulean pilot]

are there any house decoration galleries that I can browse?

[steep iris]

housingsnap

[topaz wolf]

https://gyazo.com/33800b6481cfcf1d366706a74f527963 orange on god kefka YES GET IN...i thought it was impossible for me

[dull radish]

now just gotta get that 7k+ after fflogs tax

[paper torrent]

That WAR so close to 4k

NotLikeThis

[woeful prawn]

4k is i think 50% on godka its pretty ridiculous

oh 4k is like 35%

[dull radish]

I was looking at the spectrum of clears for my static WAR in the fight, there's not much spread haha

[boreal edge]

@paper torrent its 1st kill

he was playing safe

[stable basin]

We did die but managed to scrape ourselves back up with a healer LB3.

And then managed to beat godka.

[paper torrent]

Oh i was just saying it was so close

Neverlucky

[scenic patrol]

second Godka clear

now Purple in the whole tier

!whologs @scenic patrol

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo of Odin

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1085/13566) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (1920/12804) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1783/9387) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [10:57]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (656/7290) [4263.66 DPS] [91.5 Historical] [6:30]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1250/5210) [4481.81 DPS] [76.6 Historical] [10:12]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[sour solstice]

nice

now chase the orange on Kefaust

[scenic patrol]

I should be able to do it

I just need some more reliable way to track trick attack

[dull radish]

Just have your NIN be consistent, and learn the timings~

No need to track if it's always there on time

[scenic patrol]

yeah, but I need to adjust my rotation to it

every IR should be in Trick

in Kefaust

so now I am looking for a Suiton Trigger to get a better idea

[dull radish]

I guess trigger wouldn't hurt, but really I'd just look up his timings or ask him haha

[boreal edge]

i have same issue but tracking chain

its easy to miss it

due icon not bright enough

unlike trick attack

[scenic patrol]

Trick is easy to spot and I have a trigger for Trick

rest of the raid buffs don't affect my rotation

so I ignore

I just need to know earlier

aka when Suiton is used

[dull radish]

Folks have too much reliance on triggers haha

[boreal edge]

for brd it matters alot

the chain

i dont miss litany cause its a buff

but a debuff and its dark colored

very easy to miss

on top of that

im ps4

so no triggers for me

[dull radish]

Oh, I know that it matters, it's just like

Trick and chain aren't really on an irregular cd timer, you have 60s, and you have 120s

If you're running with the same folks, even with a bit of adjustment to a fight, they should be happening about the same time

[scenic patrol]

we are only doing parse runs when we all have weapons

so doing a fight every week makes me forget the timing

[dull radish]

That doesn't really change anything haha, I dunno

[scenic patrol]

I don't remember how the fight lines up with my rotation if I don't do it frequently enough

first 2 mins sure I remember

but after that it becomes iffy

[dull radish]

I dunno, I've never really done parse runs or anything, doesn't stop me from remembering my NIN's trick timings even though he lets them drift, and the timing for them doesn't affect me much

[stable basin]

Bleah, I'm actually going to have to choose between two really meh stats for my job on this item

Anemos SCH shoes

well, three meh stats

There is only room for four Det materia, and Crit is full

Which literally means SPS, PIE, or DH are the only choices for the fifth meld

[dull radish]

Spellspeed if it gets you another tier, dh otherwise

But either are fine

Doesn't really matter

[sour solstice]

meld tenacity

[stable basin]

ewww

lol

i don't even meld piety, and of the role specific stats that's at least the more useful

anyway I can mull it over while I open all these eureka boxes LOL

[sour solstice]

Actually for WAR its the second to worst stat instead of the worst

since DH sucks ass

I have a tenacity meld lol

[stable basin]

2265 eureka boxes, owo

[sour solstice]

id reccomend an autoclicker

[stable basin]

hah now i jokingly wonder if it's considered RMT if you hire someone to sit there and click your eureka boxes for you

it's probably account sharing anyway, so it's probably some form of violation alas LOL

[lunar carbon]

is sharing account a bannable offense? I thought it was under the 'if something happens we can do nothing for you' tag

[stable basin]

btw is dh on healer the same as on tank, where it's zero if you don't meld any but you can start getting dh's if you have even one?

[sour solstice]

yeah

[stable basin]

hah, reminds me of when I played WoW and once made the mistake of going into the Warlock class discord

that place has more salt than the Dead Sea

(mind you, if you ever played a warlock during legion, you'd probably understand exactly why it has so much salt, but still ... LOL)

also, thoughts on vit right side for healers?

(or vit right side in general for non-tanks)

[steep iris]

for progging sure

[normal mesa]

@stable basin i have my kid open my eureka boxes when i have a lot

[torn kindle]

Good old child labor

[blazing pelican]

I don't actually know if I can still go God Kefka with vit melds

More HP > More healing for Archangel

Should be fine if it's mitigated correctly since you still take the same damage, but I still worry

[torn kindle]

:thonk:

[sour solstice]

I gotchu Wynne

[hybrid rapids]

just keep those VIT

for uwu next

it's annoying to re-meld

[torn kindle]

If elemental materia still mattered I would make a joke about melding Wind/Earth/Fire materia here

[wet stag]

DO YOU REMEMBER

THE 21ST NIGHT OF SEPTEMBER

[sour solstice]

Meld Flame Resist

to shield yourself from pugs

[ivory tiger]

if I dont have mana to dark arts carve and spit, do I use it for the mana if its off cooldown?

[woeful prawn]

no

[ivory tiger]

what do

[woeful prawn]

write an angsty forumpost about it and attach your edgy sonic OC signature

[ivory tiger]

:blobsad:

[scenic patrol]

It's better to not have that problem in the first place and stop spamming DA

Remain in the 4800 range for safety

[rustic lichen]

Yeah, if you see it's coming off cooldown relatively soon, pool up some mana for it

[scenic patrol]

And yes, delay C&S if you can't DA for single target

[steep iris]

tfw didn't eat food or pot

91%

T_T

I could've gotten a 95% maaaan

[topaz wolf]

the difference between 91% and 95% isnt just food and pots

[steep iris]

well I wasted a couple of gcds too

[blazing pelican]

I'm still amazed I got 95th when I fucked up hard during my O5S weekly

[safe aspen]

how hard is sigmascape savage compared to deltascape?

[boreal edge]

o5s is alot harder than o1s

o6s is a dummy

o7s is abit easier than o3s

o8s is massive jump from o4s

[safe aspen]

damn and I thought o4s was hard

[boreal edge]

only exdad was tough

and it was because black holes rng

neo fight?

i can literally sleep in it

[safe aspen]

hmm got to bump up my skill ><

[boreal edge]

@safe aspen you dont need to bump your skill just tank the floor like goodboi

[hexed meteor]

theres people still trying to get past o7 dps check

[lucid karma]

if it's 1% enrage then it's either healer or tank being lacking

if it's 20% then well...

though 1% can be a DPS lacking too

[heavy mist]

theres still people hitting enrage on o5s

and o6s

so 🤔

[lucid karma]

people hit enrage all the time, but high % enrage means everyone sucks

[heavy mist]

10% enrage o5s

[lucid karma]

at least it isn't legendary 52% enrage

[zinc vortex]

i can't say i haven't seen this legendary enrage before

[torn kindle]

it happens when you REALLY respect the content

[junior basin]

I think at that point it's the content disrespecting you

[ivory tiger]

10% enrage o5s

no clear in sight

i wanna die

party finder sucks minge

2k dps blm

[lucid karma]

someone posted legendary log over in #general-discussion

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/rdVCxtMXnTj7fJkq#fight=8

[torn kindle]

Literally everyone but the MNK below 10th

[ivory tiger]

is that me trying to prog

probafuckingly

[boreal edge]

someone says legendary enrage?

how about this

[heavy mist]

truly

[hybrid rapids]

hard agree o8s is harder than o4s from healer perspective

[blazing pelican]

O8S is way harder to heal, Almagest is just AIDS

I can kinda bullshit my way through O4S, I absolutely cannot do that for O8S

[hybrid rapids]

o8s heal is fixed

there's no random for this except maybe Auto Attack crit

And the hard one probably the first heartless since you have to control a bit aggro

Neo is every GC reset aggro 😔

[grizzled seal]

that ast buffs

oof

basically unlimited mobility now

feels like they overdid it again

also aspected helios is faster than medica 2 now

[boreal edge]

@grizzled seal its so your AS is instant cast under lightspeed

[sour solstice]

hey look

Sole Survivor is actually useful

[stable basin]

Ikr

Gonna be in rotation now

I'll have to actually bind it now

[outer ridge]

whats the current cd on it? 180?

[stable basin]

Uh

[outer ridge]

120

[stable basin]

Let's see

Oh

SW also got CD reduced

As it should

[outer ridge]

I'm just waiting to see how much dps it can bring now since our group has a DK for o5s now

[stable basin]

Well we def got an increase

DA plunge will be interesting

[sour solstice]

the DM buff is pretty good

all the tankbusters are gonna be so fuckin cozy

[sullen sable]

the power slash buff is so

[sour solstice]

except o7 but

[stable basin]

Tank buster will be a

[sour solstice]

I think its nice

makes a DAPS opener better

like way better

[stable basin]

It's a nice change

But the big three are plunge, dm, sole

[sullen sable]

they're gonna be super tanky

[stable basin]

Oh definitely

Shadow Wall is up way more

[sour solstice]

whats a doom strike

hell

Whats a Hyperdrive

[stable basin]

Darkside should have been like the change since the beginning

DM is a to tankbusters now

[sullen sable]

especially in sigma

[stable basin]

Assuming the tank buster is magic in UWU then DRK is gonna be seen alot more there

[lunar carbon]

both O5S and O6S are, right?

and possibly O8S

[stable basin]

O8 is

[lunar carbon]

O7S is physical

[stable basin]

O6 is

[lunar carbon]

if i am not wrong

[stable basin]

Idk about O5

[wet stag]

is

[stable basin]

O7 def is physical

[sour solstice]

Arm and Hammer is only physical

[stable basin]

Arm and Hammer

[sour solstice]

unless you count head on as a TB

[wet stag]

i call head on a raid buster

like forsaken

and light of judgement

[paper torrent]

APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD

[sour solstice]

Walking away from trains is for pussies

I just inner beast it

but seriously tho it aint that hard to CD through

[paper torrent]

You can go off to the side

[sour solstice]

yeah

[paper torrent]

RI HG

And reprisal

The HG is for safety and kb prevention

[wet stag]

thrill RI is enough lol

or ramp ri

then onslaught back

[paper torrent]

yeah I've seen people do that too

That's just how i like doing it

[grizzled seal]

@sullen sable how do you feel about ast changes

[paper torrent]

@wet stag WHAT ARE THOSE DRK CHANGES

[sour solstice]

Dark mind

[paper torrent]

30% DM

[sour solstice]

more like

Cozy mind

[paper torrent]

HOOOOOLLYYYT SHITTT

[desert trench]

[sullen sable]

ast changes i think are good for making the job feel less shitty to play but it's 100% gonna increase their dps

pushes whm down

unfortunately

@grizzled seal

[paper torrent]

DADP IS OP NOW TOO WHAT THE FUCK

PLUNGE

DA

[grizzled seal]

yea i feel the same

[paper torrent]

WHAAAAA

[grizzled seal]

i think the lightspeed change is too much tbh

[sullen sable]

yeah probably

[wet stag]

@paper torrent AMAZINF

[sullen sable]

should done shorter casts or lightspeed damage buff, not both

[scenic patrol]

DP is damage neutral to DA on opener with a SMN

Without NIN

[grizzled seal]

i think just keeping the damage penality on lightspeed would have been fine

[paper torrent]

Gg

[sullen sable]

mmm

mebe

[paper torrent]

Fuck PLD

I'm a drk main now

[sullen sable]

it's gonna be used for mp mostly now, i'd wager

[grizzled seal]

also aspected helios shorter than medica 2

😔

[scenic patrol]

DP?

[sullen sable]

yeah

[scenic patrol]

AOE 99% of the time

[sour solstice]

time to level DRK

[paper torrent]

Also SS GVES 20% MP

HOLY FUCK

[scenic patrol]

That's less than a DA

So meh

[paper torrent]

WEEEEWWWW

[scenic patrol]

The heal is the bugger gain

[sullen sable]

lmao

[sour solstice]

20% hp

[desert trench]

why are you the loud

[paper torrent]

IT ISN'T JACKSHIT USELESS IN SOME FIGHTSSSSS

[sour solstice]

is pretty good

[paper torrent]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE FREE MPPPP

[sour solstice]

because hes a meme

[desert trench]

this is scary

[sullen sable]

agree

[sour solstice]

its ok Emiin

you get used to it

[desert trench]

why would you get used to this on purpose

[paper torrent]

Hi Emiin

Big fan

[scenic patrol]

I wonder if people would still argue for taking Warrior over Dark Knight for none speed runs

Probably will

[sour solstice]

also a big fan

[wet stag]

yeh lol

[paper torrent]

Wait

440 potency PS

[scenic patrol]

But but, DRK does less damage, what are we gonna do?!

[paper torrent]

DAPS*

MonkaS

[sullen sable]

it's the same potency buff the other DA stuff gets

[grizzled seal]

hardest boss in pf is the enrage 😔

you can fix the rest with raises

[paper torrent]

Other stuff gets 140

[scenic patrol]

If 200 DPS loss is what causes you to enrage...

[sullen sable]

!action power slash

[storm frost]

**Power Slash** : lvl 26 Dark Knight (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity
Combo Action: Spinning Slash
Combo Potency: 300 Dark Arts Combo Effect: Increased enmity
Dark Arts fades upon execution.

[paper torrent]

This gets 200

[scenic patrol]

On a fucking tank

Are you sure?

[sullen sable]

300 -> 440

[sour solstice]

uh

lmao

are you retarded

[paper torrent]

Oh

I'm retarded

Too much hype going into my brain

And i just woke up

[sullen sable]

lol

[scenic patrol]

Biggest gains are SW and DM changes

[sullen sable]

drk is gonna be beefcakes

[paper torrent]

SW 120 SEC

[scenic patrol]

DM 30% base

Is fucking retarded

[sullen sable]

meatman

chunk master

[scenic patrol]

60 sec CD magic mitigation

What are tank busters again?

[paper torrent]

We're just god TB busters

[sour solstice]

DMTBN

[paper torrent]

God bless

[sour solstice]

= whats a damage

[scenic patrol]

I just hope that they would fix LB cheese

And DRK is meta for O6S

[paper torrent]

!action plunge

[storm frost]

**Plunge** : lvl 54 Dark Knight (30 second cooldown)

Delivers a jumping attack with a potency of 200.
Cannot be executed while bound.

[paper torrent]

n i c e

[grizzled seal]

lb cheese wont be fixed before 5.0 earliest lul

[paper torrent]

DAPLUNGE

[scenic patrol]

Yeah

[sullen sable]

[scenic patrol]

DA Plunge is a nice change IMO

[paper torrent]

We now have an emmity increase bois

[scenic patrol]

Let us more easily avoid overcap

[sour solstice]

can you double weave that shit without clipping tho

[scenic patrol]

During high mana income phases

[paper torrent]

You can probably

[scenic patrol]

We don't know yet

[unreal flax]

GUYS

FUCKING SHIT BROTHERHOOD STACKS!!! <3

[paper torrent]

We just need to know anim reduction

What's shit brotherhood i haven't hit 70

[scenic patrol]

4 BHs

[heavy mist]

physical dmg buff

iirc

[scenic patrol]

Stack that shit up

[unreal flax]

Yeah

[heavy mist]

so its REALLY good

except for casters

[paper torrent]

God fuckimg bless SE

[desert trench]

[unreal flax]

And it gives the MNK more chakras, which means more Forbidden Chakras lol

[paper torrent]

grit mp reduced

Lol ok SE

[steep iris]

https://compa.s-ul.eu/ckx3ClFa.png

look at those sexy substats

[heavy mist]

then u look at MNK diamond weapon

[sullen sable]

[steep iris]

what substats does it have

[paper torrent]

@sullen sable such a cute 02

[sullen sable]

[unreal flax]

!item diamond knuckles

[storm frost]

**Diamond Knuckles** **:** Pugilist's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

71

Auto Attack

89.6

Strength

355

Vitality

391

Determination

318

Skill Speed

223

Materia Meldable

Yes

[sullen sable]

yeesh

[unreal flax]

lol

[sour solstice]

det sks

O O F

[unreal flax]

That's why there was/is a MNK BiS using the Jikki Kai lol

[median kindle]

!item diamond axe

[storm frost]

**Diamond Axe** **:** Marauder's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

71

Auto Attack

117.6

Strength

355

Vitality

391

Critical Hit

318

Determination

223

Materia Meldable

Yes

[sour solstice]

thats good shit

[median kindle]

That's some good shit

[sour solstice]

WHM is pretty meh

[steep iris]

good👌shit (chorus:right there)

[median kindle]

👌

[heavy mist]

good thing lots of diamond weapons are good

[scenic patrol]

Frey, both my Godka clears had Sextant drop

[heavy mist]

I just know that MNK/WHM are LUL

[scenic patrol]

[steep iris]

!item diamond cane

[storm frost]

**Diamond Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

120.4

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Spell Speed

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

[steep iris]

piety sps

[sour solstice]

O O F

[heavy mist]

if u want the piety its nice

[sour solstice]

I think the yellow is the same

[heavy mist]

but MENDACITY CANE

POGGERS

[sour solstice]

oh

[steep iris]

mendacity cane is dank

[sour solstice]

whats the fuckin name of it

[steep iris]

!item byakurenge kai

[storm frost]

**Byakurenge Kai** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 370

Damage

104

Magic Damage

140

Auto Attack

119.25

Vitality

342

Mind

347

Critical Hit

218

Determination

311

Materia Meldable

Yes

[sour solstice]

I hate menda weapons because of their names

oh

[heavy mist]

i dont spend my tomes on waepons i dont main the class of

[sour solstice]

thats basically ideal

[paper torrent]

WE MADE DRK GREAT AGAIN BOISSS

[sour solstice]

now heres the real question

which to level first

DRK or AST?

[paper torrent]

You are a healer main my dude

Ast duh

[sour solstice]

true

[woeful prawn]

class jumpers

disgusting

[paper torrent]

I mean

[sour solstice]

I was planning on leveling AST eventually anyway

[paper torrent]

WEW DM

[scenic patrol]

What do I do with all this mitigation that I don't need?

[sour solstice]

make your healers lives ez

[sullen sable]

that's kinda the thing with drk mitigation buffs

i don't think we needed it

we'll see though

it'll be nice for prog

maybe drk will be godlike for UWU

[sour solstice]

I mean

I think most of the og primals TBs were physical

but I might be wrong on that

[sullen sable]

ifrit had those fire breaths

with suppuration

[sour solstice]

oh true

[sullen sable]

i think ultima itself did magic things too

[sour solstice]

titan had the table flip

[sullen sable]

idr tho

yeah

[sour solstice]

Garuda was the spin tho

I think

[sullen sable]

and there's always the potential for new stuff

[sour solstice]

tru

Ultima had the forced swap

because of the instakill stacks

[stable basin]

There gonna be tons of new people coming to DRK

[desert trench]

[stable basin]

Gonna have to those nerds

[fast coyote]

warrior is still the best dps tank yayy

[heavy mist]

dunno what u expected

DRK to be better than WAR

yeah right

[paper torrent]

eh

at least DRK mitigation is the sex now

i'm kinda disapointed on the potency buffs but whatever

i like the changes to SW and DM, that plus TBN is going to make DRK beefy boi

[sour solstice]

B E E F Y

[heavy mist]

inb4 drk is part of WF for UwU

again

[unreal flax]

SAM is gonna blow shit up now hahah

[sour solstice]

420 pot

still less than DRG

[scenic patrol]

It'll be in prog

You can count on it

DRK is fucking nuts defensively

[unreal flax]

That 420 potency is hitting a lot more frequently than DRG lol

[sour solstice]

true

LMAO and I were discussing if its possible to maybe get 6 DAs in trick

because of SS

like we didnt do the math

but just off of spitballing it seems possible

[scenic patrol]

Only under BW

And even then it's super tight

[sour solstice]

3.95 from max MP

+20% from SS memes every other trick

and then BW

Its probably possible

and would help DRK dps a bit

[scenic patrol]

It's like 14 potency

[sullen sable]

Let's be 100% real here

The best change this patch

Is male bunny outfits

[scenic patrol]

Degenerate

[sullen sable]

[outer ridge]

male bunny is going to give male ninjas so much dps

[woeful prawn]

im gonnya roleplay as nyanja and mess up meow nyandra for bunny hat in bunny fursuit >w<

[steep iris]

delet this

[stable basin]

I'm pretty sure you could get 6 DA's into a trick, much easier with the higher skill speed BiS loadouts

[wet stag]

uh no

wait

unless trick hits at the perfect time

no

[stable basin]

Maybe 5 actually, not actually doing the math

[sour solstice]

with SS

maybe

[wet stag]

nah

[sour solstice]

5 certainly tho

[wet stag]

yeah

[sour solstice]

its pretty cozy to do 5 now

since you can do a DP and thats basically a DA

[wet stag]

well

14 potency less than a da

but sure

[sour solstice]

oh right

slashing

you can DA plunge tho

but that would be some kinda triple weave meme

[stable basin]

I think you could do with SS

Would be fuckin ridiculous

Super weave boys

[fast coyote]

now u need a better net to play drk than a ninja

[wet stag]

yeah you would need trick to fall at the literal perfect time

so its never gonna happen lol

[radiant yacht]

Any good PLD guide out there o3o?

[stable basin]

Would require some magic levels of timing

[sour solstice]

P A D D I N G R U N

and MrPom

[fast coyote]

pentaweave

[sour solstice]

Actually is there a way to do DAPL DA and not clip

I doubt it

[radiant yacht]

O/

[stable basin]

DRK = weave machine

Sign me up to WVR boys

[fast coyote]

DA plunge blood weapon Dark passenger sole survivor

[wet stag]

PENTAWEAVE

[fast coyote]

yayy lets weave weave and weave

[wet stag]

[fast coyote]

fuck gcds

[sour solstice]

Impossible to tell without knowing the new lock on plunge

but you dont need to SS under trick

you do it before

because you need the duration to tick down

[stable basin]

More like a quad weave really

[sour solstice]

quad weave is a literal guarunteed GCD drop

er

clip

but sitll

[wet stag]

even triple is a guaranteed dropped gcd from trick

[fast coyote]

I mean to play an optimal drk with no clipping

u have to be a god now

might as well declare them the best ff player who can manage that

[sour solstice]

Inb4 plunge has a .1s animation lock

so you can triple weave with 2 DA

[fast coyote]

and Yoshi P said they are making gameplay easier

[sour solstice]

I mean

its pretty fucking easy to not die on DRK now

since DM is just batshit insane

[fast coyote]

yea would need a miracle to die on drk now

[sour solstice]

or a Remorse

thats a good way to die

[wet stag]

plunge

[fast coyote]

in 4.6 DRk will be able to solo the ultimate embraces

[stable basin]

DM is so good now

[wet stag]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour solstice]

Lag

[wet stag]

not a valid argument

knockbacks are clientside

[sour solstice]

true

[wet stag]

git gud

[fast coyote]

XD

[sour solstice]

I've only succeeded the onslaught once

granted ive only tried twice

but

[scenic patrol]

I just use Holmgang on those

[sullen sable]

!action dark arts

[storm frost]

**Dark Arts** : lvl 45 Dark Knight (2 second cooldown)

Attune with the darkness within you, increasing the potency of several actions. Can only be executed when succumbing to the Darkside. Effect fades if Darkside is canceled.
Duration: 10s

[scenic patrol]

[sour solstice]

I mean

[stable basin]

If the plunge animation lock is super low it might be possible to triple, would be sketch af though

[sour solstice]

what else are you gonna holmgang

[sullen sable]

Triple weave?

[scenic patrol]

My dick

[sour solstice]

oh right

[stable basin]

It MIGHT be possible

[sour solstice]

DA has a CD

[wet stag]

wait lemme find a war timeline

[sullen sable]

Neg

[sour solstice]

[stable basin]

Oh right

It does have a cd

🤔

[sour solstice]

Hey man

if you running snailboye

you'll only clip a little

nice SMN timeline

[stable basin]

Snail is so slow

2.42 gcd

[wet stag]

i cant fucking find it shit

[sour solstice]

ill just holmgang it

[scenic patrol]

I'll tell my PLD cuck to cover me for train

If I do it on DRK

[sour solstice]

pug cover

[scenic patrol]

I don't pug

[sour solstice]

Ik

[scenic patrol]

[sour solstice]

but I do

I had someone tell me they would cover

I died

[fast coyote]

I got my 99 in v5s in pugs, so I dont underestimate pugs from now on, they are the best place to pad ur numbers on adds

[stable basin]

We almost get a TBN off of SS

[sour solstice]

wow such MP

[unreal flax]

Man, last week, I was in a O7S clear party and virus happens. SAM gives me abandonment 100% of the time. Shit pissed me off.

[stable basin]

SS plus like one bw hit

[scenic patrol]

I am in spot 29 on my server's Warriors now

Neat

[sour solstice]

nice

[fast coyote]

do u use BB?

[sour solstice]

no

[scenic patrol]

What is BB

[sour solstice]

who uses BB

wtf

[scenic patrol]

Is it tasty?

[fast coyote]

yes

[stable basin]

Bb?

[lucid karma]

Sub 50 contents

[sullen sable]

Meat stick

[fast coyote]

Bristleback

[unreal flax]

Dude would use the gapcloser on the way back to the boss. because he would get close to the tank, he'd be close to someone with abandonment. Meanwhile, I'm running into a fuckin wall as the top DPS.

[sour solstice]

I only use it if someone has some big dick DPS

Like i have to BB in pugs sometimes

but

[fast coyote]

well u shouldnt as u are in defiance

u are content respector

[scenic patrol]

Lol

[fast coyote]

😮

[sour solstice]

Diversion is hard my dude

[lucid karma]

I don't care tbh

Press diversion or whatever

[stable basin]

Respect the content always use grit

[lucid karma]

Or you just tank

[sullen sable]

Shirk is hard. You gotta like, talk to your cotank

[sour solstice]

yeah

last time I got shirked was uh

uhm

Yeah I have no idea

[lucid karma]

I do shirk all the time

[fast coyote]

damn I feel u, what lvl of ppl are u running with? XD

[sour solstice]

I shirk DPS tho

[lucid karma]

Because I know my Co tank usually suck

[stable basin]

I usually shirk you if we're doin shit @sour solstice

[fast coyote]

in expert roulette u cant get shirked though

[sour solstice]

oh ok

Guess I just dont notice

[fast coyote]

nor in sastasha

[sour solstice]

since its sigma norm

and no one has enough DPS to overtake me in deliverance anyway

[stable basin]

[fast coyote]

😮

[sour solstice]

I cant tell you the amount of times im top 3 on the charts

and I only have a fucking Farsha +1

[stable basin]

@ all the time

[fast coyote]

you should be named deliverance 😮

[sour solstice]

I just need to improve my john fucking madden

[scenic patrol]

!whologs @sour solstice

[storm frost]

Yalia Sagewhisper of Famfrit

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

White Mage: (7878/15449) [1765.42 DPS] [50.6 Historical] [7:39]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[sour solstice]

I havent cleared on WAR yet

Ive tried 3 different groups

[fast coyote]

hmm

[sour solstice]

but

[scenic patrol]

[sour solstice]

[scenic patrol]

!whologs @scenic patrol

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo of Odin

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1088/13609) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (1927/12853) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1792/9433) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [10:57]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (660/7336) [4263.66 DPS] [91.4 Historical] [6:30]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1261/5257) [4481.81 DPS] [76.7 Historical] [10:12]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[stable basin]

I'm pretty sure you out dps'd a DPS as WHM on Chad yesterday

[sour solstice]

yeah I did

and that was a bad performance outta me

since I had to c2 so much

and I was LB bitch

[stable basin]

You also out dps'd my dying every 5 seconds ass

[fast coyote]

nice healer

[stable basin]

Idk what the fuck I was doing

I was going full retard

[sour solstice]

like I said

B O O P H E L L

[stable basin]

Not even healers fault

I was just being mega retarded

[fast coyote]

its always the healers fault bruh

[sour solstice]

Im gonna try for a WAR clear tonight tho

Im hoping the pugs wont be uber trash

but its friday night so

[stable basin]

Pug trash inc

I was doing Sussano EX

The OT didn't fuckin do jack