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wet stag
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5*

uncut latch
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Oh right

wet stag
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shield lob fast savage halone sword oath

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but you can always swap with your co tank after the pull

sour solstice
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DRK is just one combo right

wet stag
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yeah

sour solstice
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since grit doesnt take a GCD to drop

wet stag
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i mean the dps loss is minimal

sour solstice
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thanks PLD

wet stag
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its whatever honestly

sour solstice
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but faye

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that 10 blood gauge /s

wet stag
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you mean the 12 blood gauge you get from blood price

sour solstice
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I was talking about the lost Souleater

wet stag
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yeah but pulling with souleater is kind of feelschromosomeman

sour solstice
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thats what the /s is for

wet stag
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ah

sour solstice
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I mean sure if you are BiS and all your dps are like 4k you could pull it off

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but

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hey Faye

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how bad was leveling DRK anyway

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everyone ive talked to has said its pretty awful

lucid karma
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it's not really

scenic patrol
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I had it at 60 for SB

lucid karma
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DRK leveling was nice

scenic patrol
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So I don't know

lucid karma
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but once you got TBN

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you'll realise you were playing crippled version

wet stag
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drk leveling the first time is great

sour solstice
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I know every time I get a 69 in castrum they are wet paper

wet stag
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as you go up you get quietus, delirium, bloodspiller

scenic patrol
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TBN and gear

wet stag
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all fuckin sweet

scenic patrol
wet stag
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then you hit 70 and go like

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"woah what the fuck have i been doing with my life"

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and you never bring drk into <70 content ever again

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but if youre leveling drk for the 2nd time (for whatever reason)

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its FUCKING ASS

lucid karma
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to be fair it's the same for WAR too

sour solstice
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yeah

lucid karma
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PLD is at least tolerable

sour solstice
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WAR in like Lakshmi is so feelsbadman

wet stag
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because pld doesnt get any more interesting that it already is at 50 haha

scenic patrol
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PLD is as tolerable as using PLD in dungeons is

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So...

lucid karma
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pls I run PLD 300 times just to get mount

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worst decision

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because I don't like mount that much

scenic patrol
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Dungeon PLD is fucking resident sleeper

topaz wolf
sour solstice
wet stag
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4.5k pld

lucid karma
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wew son

scenic patrol
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Wow, that's is a fucking legit pug

wet stag
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2.5k sch blobsweatbutfast

lucid karma
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what kind of god tier PUG is this

scenic patrol
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40K rDPS

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Holy fucking shit

wet stag
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thats like

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up and coming speedrun group

sour solstice
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also nice 7k club

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gj

scenic patrol
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Yeah

lucid karma
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might as well just form static at that point tbh

scenic patrol
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Also 6K NIN

lucid karma
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unless they're off static raiding

scenic patrol
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Isn't that like Orange NIN?

wet stag
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i think so yeah

lucid karma
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ye

scenic patrol
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That pug is fucking nuts

sour solstice
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6015 for chad isnt even top 500 aparently

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or 1000

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that would be somwhere in the 1400 range

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yeah its purple

wet stag
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6015 nin is purple wtf

stable basin
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What are the chances that they'll remove one-per-estate Byakko throne?

wet stag
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0

lucid karma
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why is there even limitation in the first place LUL

sour solstice
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yup

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its low purple lol

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purple is 75-99 right

dull radish
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75-94

sour solstice
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ok

scenic patrol
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95-99 is orange

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100 is gold

sour solstice
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thats what 2 people

pine beacon
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Oh, it looks like I missed out on tank talk.

high ether
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wtf 40k pug dps

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I am lucky if I get a pug over 28k in o6s

scenic patrol
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Got my Godka clear

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and got my Diamond fucking Axe

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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1050/13135) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (1735/12396) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1635/9086) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [10:57]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1839/7074) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:39]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1501/5006) [4410.95 DPS] [70.0 Historical] [10:21]

sullen sable
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ayyy grats!

sour solstice
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Niiice

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Almost a first clear purple as well

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Are you BiS now?

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Also, isnt Godfa enrage 10:30? Or am i thinking of train?

paper torrent
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E Z

scenic patrol
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I am one Weave from BiS

paper torrent
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Grats on the clear Johni

scenic patrol
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thanks man

paper torrent
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Now ucob

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Or UWU

sour solstice
scenic patrol
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(00:14) Striking Dummy: 4762 YOU-Upheaval-24,068
YOU | 4762

sour solstice
paper torrent
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OOF

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MonkaS

spice comet
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Godka is like 10:45/10:50

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Enrage

sour solstice
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Ah

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So still pretty buttclench

steep iris
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buttclench is during enrage cast

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otherwise it's no sweat tbh

spice comet
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Yea enrage is real buttclench

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10:30 isnt bad, thats like 2 or so ultimas in?

scenic patrol
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aye

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it was 2 Ultimas

stable basin
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Yeah it's probably part of why people often get tense on ShinEx too

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every ShinEx kill is a buttclench enrage kill lol

unreal flax
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How much harder is Kefaust/Kefgod than Guardian?

dull radish
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as a dps, the difficulty level really isn't too much different

scenic patrol
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As a tank it's a significantly more fun fight

unreal flax
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Got it. Graven images are strictly mechanics, right? No DPS?

wet stag
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Ye

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P much

scenic patrol
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Not exactly

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1 3 5 are downtime

wet stag
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I mean every even numbers graven you dps during mechanics

unreal flax
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Ah.

wet stag
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But otherwise yeah basically mechanics

scenic patrol
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2 4 6 are mechs that have uptime

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2 is Knockback

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4 is half arena AOE

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6 is gaze

wet stag
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Johni have you seen the EDH speedkill

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Of kekfaust

scenic patrol
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Lol yes

wet stag
scenic patrol
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3 LB3

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Fucking lol

wet stag
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Wasn't the last time lb2

scenic patrol
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Delete this game

unreal flax
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Looool yeah. I saw that haha.

wet stag
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Why is lb cheese a thing

scenic patrol
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3 LB3 and 1 LB2

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Aye

wet stag
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Ah

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Oh yeah forgot the 2nd chimatsuri

scenic patrol
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Anyhow Faye, I am almost BiS boi

wet stag
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Congrats blobwizard

scenic patrol
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Need one weave

wet stag
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Given my luck I've given up on ever getting the diamond greatsword

scenic patrol
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Anyhow I am watching OPM while eating

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See ya

wet stag
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See ya

tame anvil
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Hi guys what you think is the Ilvl for new Raid ?

wet stag
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What's the ilvl req for raba?

tame anvil
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Yes

sour solstice
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305

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is raba

wet stag
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So uh

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335

tame anvil
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Ok and The Ridorana Lighthouse ?

sour solstice
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thats what Faye said

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Ridorana lighthouse will be 335

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Raba is 305

tame anvil
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Oh sry XD

boreal edge
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@scenic patrol you suck wtf i want 1st kill loot

scenic patrol
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Free roll

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Rolled 99

boreal edge
scenic patrol
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Tomorrow I am BiS

boreal edge
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inb4 tank chest never drop til 9th kill

scenic patrol
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Lol, tank chest

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Tank chest fucking sucks

boreal edge
scenic patrol
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!item Diamond chest of fending

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Circlet of Fending** **:** Head **:** ilvl 370
Defense

814

Magic Defense

814

Strength

198

Vitality

217

Tenacity

178

Critical Hit

125

Materia Meldable

Yes

boreal edge
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rip

scenic patrol
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Augmented Tome chest is the shit

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And I already have it

boreal edge
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thats circlet

scenic patrol
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I only need to Augment boots

boreal edge
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lol

scenic patrol
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I can't be arsed to find that item

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But raid chest is shit for tanks

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I also want to swap to raid pants

boreal edge
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!item diamond armor of fending

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Armor of Fending** **:** Body **:** ilvl 370
Defense

1139

Magic Defense

1139

Strength

322

Vitality

353

Determination

289

Skill Speed

202

Materia Meldable

Yes

scenic patrol
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So I can switch BiS sets around

boreal edge
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sks and det

scenic patrol
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Meanwhile tome chest is Crit Det

boreal edge
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why they put all good shit for brd/mch in o8s

zinc vortex
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that means you'll finally get those oranges right

scenic patrol
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My Bard got the chest

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๐Ÿ‘€

boreal edge
scenic patrol
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You jelly

wet stag
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!item diamond armor of aiming

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Armor of Maiming** **:** Body **:** ilvl 370
Defense

798

Magic Defense

627

Strength

322

Vitality

353

Determination

289

Skill Speed

202

Materia Meldable

Yes

wet stag
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Uh

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Shit

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Fuck it

zinc vortex
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lmao

scenic patrol
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!item Diamond coat of aiming

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Coat of Aiming** **:** Body **:** ilvl 370
Defense

627

Magic Defense

627

Dexterity

322

Vitality

353

Direct Hit Rate

202

Critical Hit

289

Materia Meldable

Yes

scenic patrol
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Crit/DH

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๐Ÿ‘€

boreal edge
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im still on eurekan brd chest

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for that reason

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i360/i370 is sks det

heavy mist
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FeelsBad

boreal edge
heavy mist
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

boreal edge
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the chest to me is more important than the weapon

scenic patrol
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!item Diamond bow

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Bow** **:** Archer's Arm **:** ilvl 375
Damage

105

Magic Damage

71

Auto Attack

106.4

Dexterity

355

Vitality

391

Critical Hit

318

Determination

223

Materia Meldable

Yes

scenic patrol
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Really?

boreal edge
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hmm?

scenic patrol
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Weapon is still the biggest upgrade

boreal edge
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it is

scenic patrol
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Unless Augmented Tome has crit

boreal edge
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it is

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its crit dh

scenic patrol
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Oh

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So it's not by much better

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Understandable

boreal edge
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its still 1 extra AP

scenic patrol
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Are you still pugging O8S?

boreal edge
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yes

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got 3rd kill so far

zinc vortex
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wait i thought your group cleared

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what happened

scenic patrol
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Static dispersed or are they stuck?

boreal edge
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no static still there

zinc vortex
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so you're just

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hardstuck

boreal edge
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but idk whats hard in godka to them

scenic patrol
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The wings man, wings

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It's always the wings

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I died to fucking single wing at some point due to tilt

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Before finally clearing

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And not the single wing at F3

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I fucking wish

zinc vortex
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don't we all

scenic patrol
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The single wing at first Trine

zinc vortex
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at some point

scenic patrol
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2 times

zinc vortex
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but hey

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congrats

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welcome to the big boy club

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now you too can finally pretend you're amazing on the balance

boreal edge
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but i can say

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double wings caused most wipes to us

scenic patrol
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Double wings is the hardest part to learn

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It's very unforgiving

heavy mist
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ikr

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its super scary everytime it happes

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better hope tank/party isnt too close

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the far away one isntreally a problem

scenic patrol
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It's not

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I can be super greedy with far wings

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Not lose a GCD

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While doing it

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Although some people in my static shit themselves when I do that

boreal edge
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then its 1st forsaken

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feels like 1st forsaken is worse than GCO to the grp

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then its small trines

scenic patrol
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Not 2nd or 3rd?

boreal edge
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there is always that person

scenic patrol
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I feel like they are much more challenging than F1

boreal edge
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who doesnt know where to go

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2 isnt

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3rd we didnt get much of it

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but healers literally which annoyed me most were

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for example

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i use 2 medicas be4 archangel

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if you arent topped by then its your problem

scenic patrol
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Medicas?

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What do they expect?

boreal edge
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its just example

zinc vortex
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i thought your healers were so super amazing miyanoWow

boreal edge
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not necessarily medica

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but u get the idea

scenic patrol
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If they don't want to heal there then fine

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Change it to shield strat

boreal edge
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they are good at throeing rocks mostly

scenic patrol
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Shield up before Heartless Archangel

boreal edge
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whm/ast

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cursed comp

scenic patrol
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They should heal bomb then

zinc vortex
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^

scenic patrol
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Enmity be damned

zinc vortex
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make sure everyone has like 45k HP

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and run diurnal

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diurnal is stronger than nocturnal even with a WHM

boreal edge
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no mitigation?

zinc vortex
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as long as you dont need the eHP from shields

scenic patrol
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Tanks?

zinc vortex
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reprisal, addle, collective unconscious

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whatever

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dismantle

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no reason to die to a 47k forsaken

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git gud

scenic patrol
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SiO and DV are available to mitigate Forsaken

heavy mist
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wouldnt shields still be safer

boreal edge
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i went mch myself to ease on mitigation abit

zinc vortex
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safer? definitely

boreal edge
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we had 2 ppl die to loj

zinc vortex
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but if his healers suck at topping off

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his amazing god-tier parsing healers suck at topping people off

heavy mist
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just sac healer dps

scenic patrol
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Kefka is not a fight you can be greedy at as a healer

heavy mist
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and over heal

scenic patrol
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If you didn't map out the fight as a group

heavy mist
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its safer to get past the mechanic than an extra stone or something

boreal edge
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imma give em today to play it safe

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i will consider replacing after

zinc vortex
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you didn't ask them to play it safe before

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ยฟ

boreal edge
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i did million of times

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but this time i told em

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i will literally replace now

heavy mist
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probably best to

boreal edge
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if you dont stop being dicks

zinc vortex
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im sorry im just having some

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giggles over here

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you'd think that for the amount of times you've bragged about your healers

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they'd know how to play their class

scenic patrol
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So they don't want to clear the fight?

heavy mist
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yes

scenic patrol
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I don't get it

heavy mist
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they wanna endless prog

scenic patrol
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The prog that never ends

boreal edge
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funny how we killed o7s in 3rd week

scenic patrol
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Trying to dps like speed run groups

heavy mist
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the frick

boreal edge
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and o8s not and we are at 13th week

scenic patrol
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But without the weapons

heavy mist
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week 3 o7s yet still not clear o8s

zinc vortex
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12 weeks on o8s

heavy mist
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omegalul

zinc vortex
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how do you do this

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how are you still there

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like jesus

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my group did 2 hours a week

scenic patrol
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It took me like 3 weeks to clear Kefka

zinc vortex
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2 hours

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and it took us 5 weeks

heavy mist
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kefka just took finding the right groups

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wonder how long it wouldve been if i didnt take a break ๐Ÿ’ค

zinc vortex
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dont you guys do like 6 hours a week?

scenic patrol
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Me?

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6/9

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Depends

boreal edge
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2 weeks gone without raiding just weeklies

heavy mist
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oh killed kefka week 3 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

boreal edge
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but still

heavy mist
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shouldve kept going

zinc vortex
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okay so take those 2 weeks off

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that's still 10 weeks

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let's not sugarcoat it

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if your healers are this terrible why did you wait 10 weeks again?

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no wonder you've started pugging it

boreal edge
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did i said im sugarcoating

zinc vortex
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no you didn't

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i did

boreal edge
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we still spent too much time

zinc vortex
heavy mist
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shouldve kicked the healers earlier

zinc vortex
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mr bigshot mcbragstein's group hasn't cleared yet

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sweet

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sweet

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irony

unique wolf
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how can u say ur grp is good if they havent cleared the tier and its like week 69

heavy mist
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just dont have a group pieLogic

boreal edge
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because they have tiff mindset except they dont do mechs

unique wolf
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my mindset isnt being an incompetent monkey who cant clear a fight released 16 weeks ago

spring dock
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I'm gonna clear kefka

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in

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.

pure yoke
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Ultra hot fire

blazing pelican
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the best part about Ultima Weapon Ultimate (UWU), is that Garuda is almost guaranteed to have Wicked Wheel

hybrid rapids
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It will be a 4 fight

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:3

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Sounds fun actually

heavy mist
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waiting for 5 fight where Gaius appears and bodies us

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we get light blessing and fight gaius ๐Ÿ‘€

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Dunno why they teased him

hybrid rapids
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Ucob was 5 fight, 4 transitions

heavy mist
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oh guess we could go straight into UW phase 2

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๐Ÿค”

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Question is will do they UW phase 1

pure yoke
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My head hurts

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Why is red mage math so complex

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Time to lie down

steady pebble
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pats Mug

heavy mist
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Math isnt important

steady pebble
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idk why this is a conversation in general tbh

heavy mist
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FFXIV does math for us

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if boss dies math works

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if boss doesnt die, math doesnt work

pure yoke
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For me

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It's more about general raid buff alignment and boss uptime

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Than getting really autistic about the actual rotation

heavy mist
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raid alignment in PUGs

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Rest in peace

dull radish
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That's another reason why I like BLM

stable basin
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I never thought RDM AoE had enough depth for an hour long argument

dull radish
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It doesn't matter what others are doing

heavy mist
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it doesnt

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

steady pebble
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it doesn't

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Won't stop a certain someone from making it

pure yoke
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You know what matters most?

steady pebble
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an hour long arguement

heavy mist
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theres a reason the Balance RDM channels are memes

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๐Ÿ‘€

pure yoke
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I see a lot of math nerds spend days in the perfect rotation

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Then fuck up the execution

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And end up purple

dull radish
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Yeah

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Honestly like

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Overthinking little things

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Is often the sign of a weaker player

heavy mist
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Uptime or die

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basic Rotation or death

stable basin
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I'm still mostly concerned about keeping my GCD rolling

heavy mist
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yes important

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uptime

dull radish
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People try and min-max a certain detail when they're missing tons of GCD and doing all sorts of dumb stuff otherwise

pure yoke
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Uptime is more important

heavy mist
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uptime too gud

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gives u a lot of freaking dps

wet stag
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Yeah

hybrid rapids
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My concern is about how to clear a fight, not about that <1% min-max

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It doesnโ€™t matter

heavy mist
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if it does then ๐Ÿ‘€

dull radish
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I get questions on potato rotato and I'm like, uh maybe don't drop enochian twice in the fight, first

heavy mist
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but it hasnt mattered

pure yoke
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Like ummm

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I rather spend time learning to dodge trines with 0 uptime loss

heavy mist
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Freaking trines

pure yoke
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Because that is immediately more rewarding

heavy mist
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MT always goes to 2nd triangle

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๐Ÿ’ค

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and gets debuff

pure yoke
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My tank been positioning the boss better for trines

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We had times where I basically only had to move a few steps in total

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As a melee dps

dull radish
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I wish I could have done more with god kefka

pure yoke
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I was like

heavy mist
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if i lose uptime in 1st forsaken then my dps goes rip

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

pure yoke
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6.5k dps on one of my runs before final burst window

heavy mist
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but tanks complain skulls are TOO close to center

pure yoke
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7 minutes in

heavy mist
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so im like guess ill just move outside

dull radish
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My best is from a decent run two months ago with no AST (still no clear with AST on my main), and now my group is taking a break until uwu, and not doing weeklies anymore haha

pure yoke
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Tragic

heavy mist
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lol

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as long as u BIS

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then ๐Ÿคท

pure yoke
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OK I'm sleeping for real now

steady pebble
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gnite mug

pure yoke
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UwU sounds scary

heavy mist
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i wanna get in on some early pugs for UwU

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just to mess around

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i missed the window for UCoB

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I only get to see Nael rn FeelsBadMan.

dull radish
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Yeah, I didn't get to see much of the fight either

heavy mist
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hard to do it without a static group

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in NA at least

dull radish
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Yeah we like, went in a bit then had to recruit a bit, eventually filled and caught the person up, then it was pretty much time for sigma

heavy mist
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rip

dull radish
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And now we're just recruiting and hoping to get someone in time for uwu

heavy mist
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cause UCoB is the best practice for UWU

steady pebble
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hope you find someone

heavy mist
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both synergy and trialing people wise

grizzled seal
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math is very important

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2 Fire IV > 1 Fire IV

steady pebble
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math is for nerds

zinc vortex
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STRONK MATH

dull radish
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that's some good math there

boreal edge
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tbh math isnt bad

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like how a war person used beast guage on fell cleaves only

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no onslaught or upheavel

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cause fell cleave does more dmg

zinc vortex
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i don't think he meant basic math like that

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but more optimisation

tiny kraken
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Question, what would be the new gear for crafting and gathering in 4.3? Left side, right side or both? Also I'm just about to make Ala Mhigan set for my gatherer, what would be the optimal minimum melds in preparation for the new gathering nodes if there are any?

grizzled seal
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Most people expect atleast new rightside + offhand tools

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I think people meld 1500ish?

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not too sure, maybe someone else knows more

woeful prawn
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i dont think new jewlery is gonna be a thing personally

lucid karma
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you will be melding 1500

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or very close to it

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4.1 ala mhigan set has same requirement as 4.0x crafted gears

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but harder to HQ and craft

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I'd wait until people figured out optimal rotation and requirement to craft new set myself

wet stag
#

holy shit

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so my expert party

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hells lid final pull

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im playing drk ofc

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so i full pull the room, drop grit and ld

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the whm not only lets walking dead pop

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but also waits until 2 seconds left before benediction

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and rdm lbed

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it was

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amazing

grizzled seal
#

good players in expert

#

thats new

wet stag
#

i was outdpsing the rdm for the most part tho lmao

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but still

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15-16 mins

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that makes up for my fuckup

#

i feel better now

lucid karma
#

fastest for me was 13-14 mins

#

still hoping for legendary 10-12 mins

dull radish
#

I remember one time going in with two static members, doing that final big pull of hell's lid

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I usually like to triple/quad flare then LB

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but everything was just like

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dead before I even started the LB haha

wispy token
#

Is this a race or something ? I dont like runs where people rush... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

steep iris
#

there's actually rankings for lv 70 dungeons on fflogs now

wispy token
#

For people interested in fflogs, sure...

dull radish
#

it's not really about fflogs

#

it's just about getting a daily task done more quickly

pine beacon
#

People are always going to try to push the envelope. It's been that way since Wanderer's Palace was the only endgame run

wispy token
#

Those players should play with their friends or their FC and not required random team members to rush like them

pine beacon
#

When we'd pull wall to wall, and hallowed at the gate

sullen sable
#

It's also more fun to go fast

sour solstice
#

Yeah im wall to walling

sullen sable
#

You use more of your brain

wispy token
#

NO it's boring as hell

sullen sable
#

???

sour solstice
#

Slowpulling is so feelschromosomeman

#

You can pop 0 defensives and just spam overpower

#

if you slowpull

#

its so boring

wispy token
#

I prefer killing small packs, spending less time on them, moving more often in the dungeon and so on, it's more fun than running until a wall, killing 20 mobs for a few minutes mindlessly...

pine beacon
#

It's all rather subjective, as it's based around comfort. However, when mass pulling, you make better use if your resources, across the board

#

You don't spend less time on them

sour solstice
#

Uh

steep iris
#

wall to wall is exciting

pine beacon
#

Killing 5 mobs is the same as killing 10 mobs is the same as killing 100 mobs

dull radish
#

the thing about it is

#

yeah, that

#

generally you can kill a giant pull just as fast as a smaller pull

wispy token
#

Maybe it's just a feeling but when i play with a rusher, i feel like it's slower, maybe cause i find it boring lol

#

Not at all I think

steep iris
#

what are you playing as anyway

pine beacon
#

Are you healing? DPS?

sullen sable
#

In before red mage

sour solstice
#

I can understand an RDM finding AoE boring

#

Scatter feelschromosomeman

pine beacon
#

๐Ÿคท Ye, that'd be understandable

daring berry
#

at a certain point where i do the same 2 dungeons for roulette everyday, i wont mind if people w2w

steep iris
#

as a healer i play the "how low can you go" game

#

i make my tanks shit their pants

daring berry
#

but i also dont mind if they want to take it slow.

steep iris
sour solstice
#

I play the FUCK I DIDNT BENE FAST ENOUGH game

wispy token
#

I was Melee DPS, I still am, but most of the time now I play Paladin and run like I want (I ask each time and people doesnt really care to not rush that's funny)

steep iris
#

i just bene at 10-20%

pine beacon
#

Do what I do to cap. PF 1/0 chest traps

sullen sable
sour solstice
#

I like to live dangerously Frey

steep iris
#

nice virsath

pine beacon
#

Man. 3 mob pulls on physical DPS

#

The TP bleeeeeds

steep iris
#

like, the only dungeon where id say not to pull big is bardam's

sour solstice
#

those birds

steep iris
#

why does bardam's hurt so much

#

holy shit

sour solstice
dull radish
#

I lay off bigger pulls in leveling dungeons in general for the most part

sullen sable
#

Bully mobs

wispy token
#

Because SE doesnt know how to balance things ? lol

dull radish
#

but in capped dungeons, especially current expert

sour solstice
#

Pre 50 I do megapulls since everything hits like a wet noodle

sullen sable
#

Expert dungeons are designed with minimum ilvl in mind yeah?

#

And a lot of people are close to max atm

sour solstice
#

the 50-70 range is where you gotta start caring

steep iris
#

reminds me of an sch that outdpsed all of us (i was playing rdm) in a dungeon FeelsBadMan

sour solstice
#

100 potency LUL

steep iris
#

not during bosses ofc

sullen sable
#

No damage drop off for miasma 2 meowblessup

steep iris
#

but yeah wtf consistently 10k dps every pack in fractal

unreal flax
#

I just realized that my Guardian clear is higher than my highest Train. D:

zinc vortex
#

same

#

train is trash

sour solstice
#

!whologs @unreal flax

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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Dragoon: (5296/10385) [4784.39 DPS] [54.1 Historical] [8:50]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Ninja: (7766/8535) [4446.1 DPS] [10.0 Historical] [9:27]
Dragoon: (3743/10118) [5661.92 DPS] [65.6 Historical] [9:08]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Dragoon: (4456/7306) [4932.04 DPS] [39.6 Historical] [12:22]

zinc vortex
#

my best guardian is almost as high as my best demon

steep iris
#

๐Ÿค”

#

7s has more uptime

zinc vortex
#

what

dull radish
#

my best 5, 6, and god kefka are all really close haha

steep iris
#

also you prob didn't go ham on 5s adds

dull radish
#

err

#

5, 7, and god kefka

#

6 is of course higher

steep iris
#

and uhh, a lot of people usually just clear the 2nd fight in tier and stop/are stuck

#

!whologs @steep iris

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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

White Mage: (1344/14939) [2765.44 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:39]
Astrologian: (817/9086) [2256.49 DPS] [91.8 Historical] [6:48]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

White Mage: (1415/14159) [2629.64 DPS] [91.8 Historical] [8:41]
Paladin: (11506/14205) [3185.36 DPS] [20.2 Historical] [9:41]
Astrologian: (1536/8537) [1957.05 DPS] [83.9 Historical] [7:58]

**Guardian (Savage)**

White Mage: (3142/10136) [2260.21 DPS] [72.9 Historical] [11:24]
Astrologian: (1373/5284) [1846.61 DPS] [75.2 Historical] [9:49]

**Kefka (Savage)**

White Mage: (1440/8003) [2641.67 DPS] [84.1 Historical] [6:46]
Astrologian: (1181/3580) [1931.58 DPS] [69.7 Historical] [6:25]
Scholar: (1671/7269) [2510.84 DPS] [77.8 Historical] [6:40]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Astrologian: (1152/2304) [1310.21 DPS] [49.5 Historical] [10:05]
Scholar: (4007/5273) [1425.17 DPS] [24.0 Historical] [10:41]

unreal flax
#

Ain't that the fuckin truth. I was gonna be one of those people myself, tbh.

steep iris
#

Tfw 5s has the best dps

unreal flax
#

If I didn't clear O7S before this reset ended, I was gonna stop entirely lol.

sour solstice
#

I still need to find a pt for O6s

#

but its monday so MonkaS

steep iris
#

can i delete my pld and sch parse

#

hehe

zinc vortex
#

sure

paper torrent
#

At least you ain't this

#

!whologs @paper torrent

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#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (6845/13164) [3404.7 DPS] [53.5 Historical] [8:46]
Paladin: (10412/14462) [2816.85 DPS] [28.0 Historical] [8:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Paladin: (8523/14206) [3578.71 DPS] [47.9 Historical] [9:45]
Warrior: (5097/12433) [4226.43 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [9:05]

paper torrent
#

Oof

zinc vortex
#

If ur blue u aint got a clue

steep iris
#

go clear 7s smh

sour solstice
#

dont do it today

zinc vortex
#

do it today

stable basin
#

you do realize that for a lot of people the end goal is "being able to farm the content reliably" and most aren't really that focused on speed clears or competitive parsing :/

scenic patrol
#

Wut?

zinc vortex
#

i mean neither am i but i still strive to improve

#

actually nevermind that's not true ive given up on improving

#

ignore me

stable basin
#

speedrunning seems to have infected gaming in general irreversibly though

scenic patrol
#

Compititive parsing is not against farming content reliably

#

I don't wipe a raid if I do a mistake and die

dull radish
#

also where was that comment coming from even?

sour solstice
#

Yeah I dont see why those 2 concepts are at odds?

dull radish
#

just kinda seemed out of nowhere

scenic patrol
#

All my PBs are from weeklies

stable basin
#

people trotting out stuff like "if you're blue you haven't got a clue"

sour solstice
#

You mean the mods

dull radish
#

you honestly think that was a serious statement though

#

really

sour solstice
#

memeing in general

#

???

#

I mean im blue

#

and I dont have a clue

zinc vortex
#

hello it was me who said that

sour solstice
#

oh

zinc vortex
#

here's a good

#

tip when dealing with things i say

#

dont listen to me

#

im memeing 90% of the time

sour solstice
#

They were meming on LMAO in general a few minutes ago

zinc vortex
#

when i said if someone's green don't be mean

paper torrent
#

Wait what's happening in here

grizzled seal
#

lmao if ur blue u shouldnt talk about balance tbh

zinc vortex
#

it was

#

a joke

#

stop making me sound like an elitist

paper torrent
#

๐Ÿค”

grizzled seal
#

green is straight up uninstall unlesd you died like 3 times

sullen sable
#

Elitists? In my casual Discord?!

sour solstice
#

Grey= why are you playing again

zinc vortex
#

if ur grey ur gey

paper torrent
#

Shit

#

I was grey

#

And I'm gay

#

Not my clear parses tho

zinc vortex
#

yeah but ur not grey anymore so

paper torrent
#

My PLD memes

zinc vortex
#

ur no longer gey buckaroo hand over that privilege pass

sour solstice
#

!whologs @paper torrent

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#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (6847/13169) [3404.7 DPS] [53.5 Historical] [8:46]
Paladin: (10416/14467) [2816.85 DPS] [28.0 Historical] [8:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Paladin: (8527/14212) [3578.71 DPS] [47.9 Historical] [9:45]
Warrior: (5098/12435) [4226.43 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [9:05]

paper torrent
#

Also damn Liksaar

#

I already left chaos dc

#

What more do you want from me ๐Ÿ˜ข

zinc vortex
#

oof

lunar carbon
#

!whologs @lunar carbon

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#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Summoner: (3137/7653) [5245.88 DPS] [61.4 Historical] [7:51]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Red Mage: (5972/7374) [4578.61 DPS] [30.1 Historical] [10:30]
Summoner: (2835/7270) [5733.41 DPS] [66.8 Historical] [8:50]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Summoner: (3774/5101) [5249.99 DPS] [26.3 Historical] [11:17]

lunar carbon
#

me green SMN

zinc vortex
#

me green me smash

sour solstice
#

!whologs @sour solstice

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#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

White Mage: (7622/14946) [1765.42 DPS] [50.6 Historical] [7:39]

sour solstice
#

NA pugs LUL

#

at least im blue

ivory tiger
#

how much hp is melding vit + hq food

scenic patrol
#

HQ food is like 2K HP

ivory tiger
#

:o

scenic patrol
#

Forsaken does 47K damage

ivory tiger
#

At full hp on everything but caster we could probably survive that

dull radish
#

you can live through it on caster

#

you have pretty good magic defense

scenic patrol
#

Casters have higher magic Def

#

Same for healers

#

So they need like 44K to survive

#

Only aspect that casters are more squishy on is physical defense

ivory tiger
#

๐Ÿ‘ ty ty

dull radish
#

just play BLM and manaward anything spooky <3

scenic patrol
#

But there's no AOE that does physical damage in relevant content right now

dull radish
#

head-on

ivory tiger
#

apply directly to the forehead

scenic patrol
#

None tanks just die if they are at the front anyhow

zinc vortex
#

manaward my depression pepehands

scenic patrol
#

Without party mitigation

dull radish
#

or you can mitigate it

#

but if you mitigate

#

casters usually still need to go back a bit

#

unless the adlo crits, or they don't have the wind

scenic patrol
#

Haven't attempted to cheese it yet tbh

dull radish
#

it's cozy

scenic patrol
#

If we clear Godka at less than 10 attempts I get to be RL at the week after next

#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

So I can start making my static do all sorts of strats

dull radish
#

full uptime strat for second forsaken~

zinc vortex
#

my group doesn't do things like that

#

we just

#

clear with our homebrew strats and call it a day

scenic patrol
#

Fuck no, I am not attempting that strat

dull radish
#

Yeah I don't blame you haha

#

It's really dumb

scenic patrol
#

It looks cancer for everyone involved

dull radish
#

Eh, not really for everyone

#

Just movement for melee, and especially ranged, is a bit nuanced

pure yoke
#

Hi

dull radish
#

heya

zinc vortex
#

hey

hushed rain
#

stupid question but the red stone cap was gone, after the new raid tier right?

dull radish
#

yeah like, when we get the next tier of omega

scenic patrol
#

Previous capped tome is handouts next tier

dull radish
#

mendacity will be uncapped

scenic patrol
#

Always

dull radish
#

and there'll be a new tomestone that's weekly

unreal flax
#

Mug, you taught me something I hadn't thought about when I dug into your Life windows lol. Delayed Life window, get ya three Nastronds, then at the end of it before the refresh GCD, use Blood to get 30s, then do do another three Nastronds back to back. I've been delaying the second set for a full refresh combo unnecessarily.

pure yoke
whole rampart
#

whats the thing that tracks dps again?

paper torrent
#

ACT?

dull radish
#

most folks use ACT, Advanced Combat Tracker

whole rampart
#

ah thanks

stable basin
#

Got a Shinryu PF up if anyone's interested

unreal flax
#

Still hunting that dog?

winter iris
#

Question about Eureka. I just went through 7 30 chains to try and get the one protean crystal to give to Krile and I still have yet to get one and I have hit level 5. Am I super unlucky or is something wrong. I did level up to 2 to 4 with the train and did randomly get some Anemos crystals and lockboxes from 1 NM.

scenic patrol
#

Were you inside a party?

winter iris
#

no I had someone healing me outside of a party

unreal flax
#

Wait wait wait. What level are you?

ivory tiger
#

5

unreal flax
#

Get into low level NM train (those exist). Go kill Cactuar and Lord and Emperor and Number and Bears and you'll have Protean Crystals falling out of your ears in the form of Anemos Crystals.

winter iris
#

@unreal flax I did not know that thank you for the info

sour solstice
#

Exchange Anemos Crystals for Protean at the blacksmith

winter iris
#

i cant yet because I have to get the 1 for Krile to open the quest

sour solstice
#

Oh

unreal flax
#

Yeah, once you have one anemos crystal, talk to my indebted drunk, Gerolt.

sour solstice
#

Were you chaining even level mobs?

#

And brit, its no an Anemos

winter iris
#

yes I went through about 7 30 chains with no luck

sour solstice
#

its a protean

#

Its a guaranteed drop tho

#

???

unreal flax
#

You reduce anemos crystals into protean crystals

sour solstice
#

You cant

#

without the quest

#

which requires one

unreal flax
#

Really? Oh wow hahah. rippo.

#

It's been so long

#

Yeah, fight level 5 creatures since you're level 5. You should get at least one.

#

It's really weird that you haven't.

sour solstice
#

if they are 1 level down it wont work

winter iris
#

Yeah it is weird one of my FC members would heal me as I burn them and the chain kept going up and nothing

sour solstice
#

IIRC

winter iris
#

gotcha

unreal flax
#

I know that the cactuars are level 5, the snurbles are level 5, and a few others near there

winter iris
#

thank you for all the info I saw something about this on the Forums but all the info was just a shouting match

#

I will keep snurbles

sour solstice
#

OF

#

Shouting match

#

Sounds about right

cerulean pilot
#

for the fashion report, is there any distinction between jet black dye and general purpose jet black?

ivory tiger
#

5 strength or 120 DH?

zinc vortex
#

5 str

#

i think

#

dont quote me

dull radish
#

Should be 5 STR yeah, especially since you're not going to be losing 120DH while getting no other secondary in return

ivory tiger
#

I want to get my 360 sword, but I already have a melded 355 eureka weapon

dull radish
#

You get weapon damage, too

#

But mm, I dunno the secondaries of both off the top of my head, by any stretch haha. What are they?

#

Like tome should still be definitive upgrade, but if tome weapon is gonna be worst possible secondaries, it might not be awful to consider other tome purchases first if needed

unreal flax
#

I need to hurry up and get this Diamond spear so I can have the "right" SkS.

#

Cuz, you know

#

that's the only reason to get it

pure yoke
#

hi

unreal flax
#

You're using a crafted ring in your BiS to keep your SkS low, right? Somewhere in the low 600s to high 500s?

pure yoke
#

I am 537 sks

unreal flax
#

2.47s GCD?

pure yoke
#

ye

#

The Balance's bis is safer option

#

for most players

unreal flax
#

Since I don't have the Diamond headpiece yet, I'm likely gonna be on the general BiS as well. I had my own lil BiS that sac'ed some Det for Crit/DH, but it required the Diamond head.

#

Oh, Mug! Question about something I was thinking about Saturday night. After O4S, are there any instance where you'd consider doing an early Geirskogul?

#

I ask here instead of the Balance for two reasons: I'm not in the Balance anymore and you're the only DRG I wanna be like.

#

(Except, I can't imagine playing so fucking slowly)

paper torrent
#

o6s drops a myth

pure yoke
#

I wouldn't do early gsk in any fight this tier

normal mesa
#

Quick question, is 4.3 when they'll take weekly lockout off on gear from sigma savage?

unreal flax
#

I think so. It should remove the weekly limit. Miiiight be a minor patch after it, but during 4.3 is when it should be unlocked.

scenic patrol
#

More like 4.37

paper torrent
#

wasn't delta uncapped after 4.27

#

i unsubbed after raba so i have no fucking idea

unreal flax
#

That's a minor patch during 4.3

#

That's what I was saying

heavy mist
#

@pure yoke wouldnt u do it for normal kefka

#

or just hold it until after 1st graven

scenic patrol
paper torrent
#

wait

sour solstice
#

this tbh

paper torrent
#

plunge buff doesn't help average player?

sour solstice
#

No

paper torrent
#

do you know how many shitdrks i see kill themselvess with that?

scenic patrol
#

It was memeing

pure yoke
#

or how plunge is guarenteed gcd clip

sour solstice
#

hes talking about buffing the players themselves

paper torrent
pure yoke
#

if you do it anytime outside the end of a gcd

scenic patrol
#

Since the DRK player base is just bad

heavy mist
#

@pure yoke ty

#

O.o interesting combo before 1st graven

#

pieThink might use that

pure yoke
#

nowerdays

#

I can get that 3rd gsk in

#

before he jumps

heavy mist
#

its a 50/50 for me

#

but i do hate my gauge running out cause im not paying attention

#

๐Ÿ’ค

pure yoke
#

you notice my gauge shot up to 30?

#

the moment he jumped for 1st graven

heavy mist
#

yeah

#

i saw

pine beacon
#

Endgame DRG seems neat

scenic patrol
#

!whoattributes @scenic patrol

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#
Johni Bravo of Odin
Attributes of Level 70 Warrior
HP

62614

MP

4560

Strength

2382

Dexterity

277

Vitality

2995

Intelligence

116

Mind

158

Critical Hit Rate

2360

Determination

1683

Direct Hit Rate

364

Defense

5412

Magic Defense

5412

Attack Power

2382

Skill Speed

1126

Magic Power

116

Healing Potency

158

Spell Speed

364

Tenacity

800

Piety

292

scenic patrol
paper torrent
#

That crit

#

Gimme

scenic patrol
#

That's what Diamond Axe gets you

#

Some juicy ass crit

lucid karma
#

DRK is like SCH

#

shit players are very obviously shit

pine beacon
#

Yeye

lucid karma
#

see those squishy DRK? they never use TBN during trash pull

#

let alone cooldown

pine beacon
#

TBN is ๐Ÿ’™

unreal flax
#

What if I don't have TBN?

scenic patrol
#

You cry

unreal flax
#

โœ”๏ธโœ”๏ธโœ”๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ

wet stag
#

Accurate

torn kindle
#

2 98's

#

what a casual group

sour solstice
#

kick the MCH and PLD

#

tbh

unique wolf
#

mch wildfire didnt' go off in the opener cuz he lost 1 packet

torn kindle
#

literally unplayable

unique wolf
#

and brd didn't palisade the last tb so pld died

pine beacon
#

Tippani Liz, strongo

steep iris
#

getting oranges even with death

#

I wish I was that good

indigo steppe
#

anyone who knows how to use fflogs rly well: why does my static's logs not show up under our name?

#

tryna upload ucob and o5-o8s logs, but it doesnt show static's name under guild

steep iris
#

@indigo steppe either it's not being uploaded under your static or your static members have not registered themselves as part of the static/linked their characters

indigo steppe
#

it gets uploaded under fc name

#

and we're only 7/8 in fc

steep iris
#

I think you need like, 6 people to register themselves in the static

indigo steppe
#

def have 8/8 in static

steep iris
#

do they have their characters linked to fflogs?

indigo steppe
#

ye

steep iris
#

that's my static rn

indigo steppe
#

could it be that 4/8 of the team

#

didnt update their chars after server swap

steep iris
#

dunno

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you could try just going on their pages and try to update them or smth

indigo steppe
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the pic is what my static looks like

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but the server name is wrong for 4/8 of them

unique wolf
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you need to make a group

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and have your characters in it

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not just your fflogs account

indigo steppe
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yeah, i had 2 of the ppl update their chars and it finally worked

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thx

stable basin
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hmm, is there a healer shortage this tier?

zinc vortex
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healers have always been in demand

boreal edge
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to me its tanks

zinc vortex
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sounds like confirmation bias

boreal edge
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at least in EU

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NA is lacking healers

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EU is lacking tanks

zinc vortex
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then again i wouldn't know

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i only play with friends

boreal edge
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friends are overrated

zinc vortex
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friends > pugs my dude

blazing pelican
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Who needs friends when you have parses

zinc vortex
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friends > non friends

blazing pelican
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!whologs @blazing pelican

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Astrologian: (1093/9115) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1277/12776) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Scholar: (485/12253) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4546/14207) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Scholar: (257/9194) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (182/7301) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (583/5303) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]

zinc vortex
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and to go for the sick

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SICK

blazing pelican
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...I'm so lonely

zinc vortex
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4th grade burn

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my friends > ur mom

boreal edge
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thats very subjective

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@blazing pelican fuck ping and come to eu

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350ms my ass

blazing pelican
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I live in japan

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It'll be more than that

zinc vortex
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dont come to eu

gleaming nexus
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my eu ping isnt that bad, it doesnt beat my chromosome count

zinc vortex
boreal edge
blazing pelican
zinc vortex
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same actuall

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y

ivory tiger
zinc vortex
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my ping is comfy

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too bad i hate this game

blazing pelican
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I've got like 140 and I make it work pretty well

gleaming nexus
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my ping can be either, hey i can play anything without killing my self to fuck it im gonna play chrome dinosaur

ivory tiger
gleaming nexus
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mine sits at like 120 to 240~

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depends on the time of day

boreal edge
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mine is 75

blazing pelican
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That's uh, a pretty big spike

boreal edge
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5 less than maximum to doubleweave

ivory tiger
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how much ping for triple weave

blazing pelican
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-20

boreal edge
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@ivory tiger you need to be able to see the future in order to triple weave

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you need to be faster than time itself

grizzled seal
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healing pugs is super annoying

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and/or bad statics

boreal edge
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idk how to feel about raiding while fasting

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in ramadan

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a friend doing that

zinc vortex
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what do you mean?

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forgive my ignorance but you're allowed to eat in the evening right?

boreal edge
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not me

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a friend

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he will raid while fasting afternoon

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also you are allowed to eat at night

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not evening

grizzled seal
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does he drink water atleast

boreal edge
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no eat/drink from sunrise to sunset

grizzled seal
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๐Ÿ˜”

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sounds like he will be a liability to his group then

boreal edge
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and 46C on top of that

grizzled seal
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well that sounds downright stupid

zinc vortex
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that sounds like a stupid idea

boreal edge
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yea i was like

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how the fuck you gonna fast and raid in same time

lucid karma
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oh muslim

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that's pretty normal

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don't worry too much

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think of it as flipping meal schedule by 12 hours

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it's fasting in the sense that you don't eat as long as the sun's on the sky

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but in reality it's not that bad

boreal edge
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@lucid karma im fasting too

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but at least i raid at night