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Oh right
shield lob fast savage halone sword oath
but you can always swap with your co tank after the pull
DRK is just one combo right
yeah
since grit doesnt take a GCD to drop
i mean the dps loss is minimal
thanks PLD
its whatever honestly
you mean the 12 blood gauge you get from blood price
I was talking about the lost Souleater
yeah but pulling with souleater is kind of 
thats what the /s is for
ah
I mean sure if you are BiS and all your dps are like 4k you could pull it off
but
hey Faye
how bad was leveling DRK anyway
everyone ive talked to has said its pretty awful
it's not really
I had it at 60 for SB
DRK leveling was nice
So I don't know
drk leveling the first time is great
I know every time I get a 69 in castrum they are wet paper
as you go up you get quietus, delirium, bloodspiller
TBN and gear
all fuckin sweet

then you hit 70 and go like
"woah what the fuck have i been doing with my life"
and you never bring drk into <70 content ever again
but if youre leveling drk for the 2nd time (for whatever reason)
its FUCKING ASS
to be fair it's the same for WAR too
yeah
PLD is at least tolerable
WAR in like Lakshmi is so 
because pld doesnt get any more interesting that it already is at 50 
pls I run PLD 300 times just to get mount
worst decision
because I don't like mount that much
Dungeon PLD is fucking resident sleeper
https://gyazo.com/c441fc570af8011eee8a9269cf729c6d pug...holy shit haha

wew son
Wow, that's is a fucking legit pug
2.5k sch 
what kind of god tier PUG is this
might as well just form static at that point tbh
Also 6K NIN
unless they're off static raiding
Isn't that like Orange NIN?
i think so yeah
ye
That pug is fucking nuts
6015 for chad isnt even top 500 aparently
or 1000
that would be somwhere in the 1400 range
yeah its purple
6015 nin is purple wtf
What are the chances that they'll remove one-per-estate Byakko throne?
0
why is there even limitation in the first place LUL
75-94
ok
thats what 2 people
Warrior: (1050/13135) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]
Warrior: (1735/12396) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]
Warrior: (1635/9086) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [10:57]
Warrior: (1839/7074) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:39]
Warrior: (1501/5006) [4410.95 DPS] [70.0 Historical] [10:21]
ayyy grats!
Niiice
Almost a first clear purple as well
Are you BiS now?
Also, isnt Godfa enrage 10:30? Or am i thinking of train?
E Z
I am one Weave from BiS
Grats on the clear Johni
thanks man


Yeah it's probably part of why people often get tense on ShinEx too
every ShinEx kill is a buttclench enrage kill lol
How much harder is Kefaust/Kefgod than Guardian?
as a dps, the difficulty level really isn't too much different
As a tank it's a significantly more fun fight
Got it. Graven images are strictly mechanics, right? No DPS?
I mean every even numbers graven you dps during mechanics
Ah.
But otherwise yeah basically mechanics
Lol yes

Wasn't the last time lb2
Delete this game
Looool yeah. I saw that haha.
Why is lb cheese a thing
Anyhow Faye, I am almost BiS boi
Congrats 
Need one weave
Given my luck I've given up on ever getting the diamond greatsword
See ya
Hi guys what you think is the Ilvl for new Raid ?
What's the ilvl req for raba?
Yes
Ok and The Ridorana Lighthouse ?
Oh sry XD
@scenic patrol you suck wtf i want 1st kill loot


!item Diamond chest of fending
rip
thats circlet
I only need to Augment boots
lol
I can't be arsed to find that item
But raid chest is shit for tanks
I also want to swap to raid pants
!item diamond armor of fending
So I can switch BiS sets around
sks and det
Meanwhile tome chest is Crit Det
that means you'll finally get those oranges right

!item diamond armor of aiming
lmao
!item Diamond coat of aiming
FeelsBad

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the chest to me is more important than the weapon
!item Diamond bow
Really?
hmm?
Weapon is still the biggest upgrade
it is
its still 1 extra AP
Are you still pugging O8S?
Static dispersed or are they stuck?
no static still there
but idk whats hard in godka to them
The wings man, wings
It's always the wings
I died to fucking single wing at some point due to tilt
Before finally clearing
And not the single wing at F3
I fucking wish
don't we all
The single wing at first Trine
at some point
2 times
but hey
congrats
welcome to the big boy club
now you too can finally pretend you're amazing on the balance
ikr
its super scary everytime it happes
better hope tank/party isnt too close
the far away one isntreally a problem
It's not
I can be super greedy with far wings
Not lose a GCD
While doing it

Although some people in my static shit themselves when I do that
then its 1st forsaken
feels like 1st forsaken is worse than GCO to the grp
then its small trines
Not 2nd or 3rd?
there is always that person
I feel like they are much more challenging than F1
who doesnt know where to go
2 isnt
3rd we didnt get much of it
but healers literally which annoyed me most were
for example
i use 2 medicas be4 archangel
if you arent topped by then its your problem
its just example
i thought your healers were so super amazing 
they are good at throeing rocks mostly
Shield up before Heartless Archangel
They should heal bomb then
^
Enmity be damned
make sure everyone has like 45k HP
and run diurnal
diurnal is stronger than nocturnal even with a WHM
no mitigation?
as long as you dont need the eHP from shields
Tanks?
reprisal, addle, collective unconscious
whatever
dismantle
no reason to die to a 47k forsaken
git gud
SiO and DV are available to mitigate Forsaken
wouldnt shields still be safer
i went mch myself to ease on mitigation abit
safer? definitely
we had 2 ppl die to loj
but if his healers suck at topping off
his amazing god-tier parsing healers suck at topping people off

just sac healer dps
Kefka is not a fight you can be greedy at as a healer
and over heal
If you didn't map out the fight as a group
its safer to get past the mechanic than an extra stone or something
probably best to
if you dont stop being dicks

im sorry im just having some
giggles over here
you'd think that for the amount of times you've bragged about your healers
they'd know how to play their class

So they don't want to clear the fight?
yes
I don't get it
The prog that never ends
funny how we killed o7s in 3rd week
Trying to dps like speed run groups
the frick
and o8s not and we are at 13th week
But without the weapons
week 3 o7s yet still not clear o8s
omegalul
how do you do this
how are you still there
like jesus
my group did 2 hours a week
It took me like 3 weeks to clear Kefka
kefka just took finding the right groups
wonder how long it wouldve been if i didnt take a break ๐ค
dont you guys do like 6 hours a week?
2 weeks gone without raiding just weeklies
oh killed kefka week 3 ๐ฆ
but still
shouldve kept going
okay so take those 2 weeks off
that's still 10 weeks
let's not sugarcoat it
if your healers are this terrible why did you wait 10 weeks again?
no wonder you've started pugging it
did i said im sugarcoating
we still spent too much time

shouldve kicked the healers earlier
just dont have a group 
my mindset isnt being an incompetent monkey who cant clear a fight released 16 weeks ago
Ultra hot fire
the best part about Ultima Weapon Ultimate (UWU), is that Garuda is almost guaranteed to have Wicked Wheel
waiting for 5 fight where Gaius appears and bodies us
we get light blessing and fight gaius ๐
Dunno why they teased him
Ucob was 5 fight, 4 transitions
oh guess we could go straight into UW phase 2
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Question is will do they UW phase 1
pats Mug
Math isnt important
idk why this is a conversation in general tbh
FFXIV does math for us
if boss dies math works
if boss doesnt die, math doesnt work
For me
It's more about general raid buff alignment and boss uptime
Than getting really autistic about the actual rotation
That's another reason why I like BLM
I never thought RDM AoE had enough depth for an hour long argument
It doesn't matter what others are doing
You know what matters most?
an hour long arguement
I see a lot of math nerds spend days in the perfect rotation
Then fuck up the execution
And end up purple
Yeah
Honestly like
Overthinking little things
Is often the sign of a weaker player
I'm still mostly concerned about keeping my GCD rolling
People try and min-max a certain detail when they're missing tons of GCD and doing all sorts of dumb stuff otherwise
Uptime is more important
Yeah
My concern is about how to clear a fight, not about that <1% min-max
It doesnโt matter
if it does then ๐
I get questions on potato rotato and I'm like, uh maybe don't drop enochian twice in the fight, first
but it hasnt mattered
Freaking trines
Because that is immediately more rewarding
My tank been positioning the boss better for trines
We had times where I basically only had to move a few steps in total
As a melee dps
I wish I could have done more with god kefka
I was like
6.5k dps on one of my runs before final burst window
but tanks complain skulls are TOO close to center
7 minutes in
so im like guess ill just move outside
My best is from a decent run two months ago with no AST (still no clear with AST on my main), and now my group is taking a break until uwu, and not doing weeklies anymore haha
Tragic
OK I'm sleeping for real now
gnite mug
UwU sounds scary
i wanna get in on some early pugs for UwU
just to mess around
i missed the window for UCoB
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I only get to see Nael rn FeelsBadMan.
Yeah, I didn't get to see much of the fight either
Yeah we like, went in a bit then had to recruit a bit, eventually filled and caught the person up, then it was pretty much time for sigma
rip
And now we're just recruiting and hoping to get someone in time for uwu
cause UCoB is the best practice for UWU
hope you find someone
both synergy and trialing people wise
math is for nerds
STRONK MATH
that's some good math there
tbh math isnt bad
like how a war person used beast guage on fell cleaves only
no onslaught or upheavel
cause fell cleave does more dmg
Question, what would be the new gear for crafting and gathering in 4.3? Left side, right side or both? Also I'm just about to make Ala Mhigan set for my gatherer, what would be the optimal minimum melds in preparation for the new gathering nodes if there are any?
Most people expect atleast new rightside + offhand tools
I think people meld 1500ish?
not too sure, maybe someone else knows more
i dont think new jewlery is gonna be a thing personally
you will be melding 1500
or very close to it
4.1 ala mhigan set has same requirement as 4.0x crafted gears
but harder to HQ and craft
I'd wait until people figured out optimal rotation and requirement to craft new set myself
holy shit
so my expert party
hells lid final pull
im playing drk ofc
so i full pull the room, drop grit and ld
the whm not only lets walking dead pop
but also waits until 2 seconds left before benediction
and rdm lbed
it was
amazing
i was outdpsing the rdm for the most part tho lmao
but still
15-16 mins
that makes up for my fuckup
i feel better now
I remember one time going in with two static members, doing that final big pull of hell's lid
I usually like to triple/quad flare then LB
but everything was just like
dead before I even started the LB haha
Is this a race or something ? I dont like runs where people rush... ๐ฆ
there's actually rankings for lv 70 dungeons on fflogs now
For people interested in fflogs, sure...
People are always going to try to push the envelope. It's been that way since Wanderer's Palace was the only endgame run
Those players should play with their friends or their FC and not required random team members to rush like them
When we'd pull wall to wall, and hallowed at the gate
It's also more fun to go fast
Yeah im wall to walling
You use more of your brain
NO it's boring as hell
???
Slowpulling is so 
You can pop 0 defensives and just spam overpower
if you slowpull
its so boring
I prefer killing small packs, spending less time on them, moving more often in the dungeon and so on, it's more fun than running until a wall, killing 20 mobs for a few minutes mindlessly...
It's all rather subjective, as it's based around comfort. However, when mass pulling, you make better use if your resources, across the board
You don't spend less time on them
Uh
wall to wall is exciting
Killing 5 mobs is the same as killing 10 mobs is the same as killing 100 mobs
the thing about it is
yeah, that
generally you can kill a giant pull just as fast as a smaller pull
Maybe it's just a feeling but when i play with a rusher, i feel like it's slower, maybe cause i find it boring lol
Not at all I think
what are you playing as anyway
Are you healing? DPS?
In before red mage
๐คท Ye, that'd be understandable
at a certain point where i do the same 2 dungeons for roulette everyday, i wont mind if people w2w
but i also dont mind if they want to take it slow.

I play the FUCK I DIDNT BENE FAST ENOUGH game
I was Melee DPS, I still am, but most of the time now I play Paladin and run like I want (I ask each time and people doesnt really care to not rush that's funny)
i just bene at 10-20%
Do what I do to cap. PF 1/0 chest traps
@steep iris
I like to live dangerously Frey
nice virsath
like, the only dungeon where id say not to pull big is bardam's
those birds

I lay off bigger pulls in leveling dungeons in general for the most part
Bully mobs
Because SE doesnt know how to balance things ? lol
but in capped dungeons, especially current expert
Pre 50 I do megapulls since everything hits like a wet noodle
Expert dungeons are designed with minimum ilvl in mind yeah?
And a lot of people are close to max atm
the 50-70 range is where you gotta start caring
reminds me of an sch that outdpsed all of us (i was playing rdm) in a dungeon FeelsBadMan
100 potency 
not during bosses ofc
No damage drop off for miasma 2 
but yeah wtf consistently 10k dps every pack in fractal
I just realized that my Guardian clear is higher than my highest Train. D:
!whologs @unreal flax
Dragoon: (5296/10385) [4784.39 DPS] [54.1 Historical] [8:50]
Ninja: (7766/8535) [4446.1 DPS] [10.0 Historical] [9:27]
Dragoon: (3743/10118) [5661.92 DPS] [65.6 Historical] [9:08]
Dragoon: (4456/7306) [4932.04 DPS] [39.6 Historical] [12:22]
my best guardian is almost as high as my best demon
what
my best 5, 6, and god kefka are all really close haha
also you prob didn't go ham on 5s adds
and uhh, a lot of people usually just clear the 2nd fight in tier and stop/are stuck
!whologs @steep iris
White Mage: (1344/14939) [2765.44 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:39]
Astrologian: (817/9086) [2256.49 DPS] [91.8 Historical] [6:48]
White Mage: (1415/14159) [2629.64 DPS] [91.8 Historical] [8:41]
Paladin: (11506/14205) [3185.36 DPS] [20.2 Historical] [9:41]
Astrologian: (1536/8537) [1957.05 DPS] [83.9 Historical] [7:58]
White Mage: (3142/10136) [2260.21 DPS] [72.9 Historical] [11:24]
Astrologian: (1373/5284) [1846.61 DPS] [75.2 Historical] [9:49]
White Mage: (1440/8003) [2641.67 DPS] [84.1 Historical] [6:46]
Astrologian: (1181/3580) [1931.58 DPS] [69.7 Historical] [6:25]
Scholar: (1671/7269) [2510.84 DPS] [77.8 Historical] [6:40]
Astrologian: (1152/2304) [1310.21 DPS] [49.5 Historical] [10:05]
Scholar: (4007/5273) [1425.17 DPS] [24.0 Historical] [10:41]
Ain't that the fuckin truth. I was gonna be one of those people myself, tbh.
Tfw 5s has the best dps
If I didn't clear O7S before this reset ended, I was gonna stop entirely lol.
sure
Warrior: (6845/13164) [3404.7 DPS] [53.5 Historical] [8:46]
Paladin: (10412/14462) [2816.85 DPS] [28.0 Historical] [8:43]
Paladin: (8523/14206) [3578.71 DPS] [47.9 Historical] [9:45]
Warrior: (5097/12433) [4226.43 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [9:05]
Oof
If ur blue u aint got a clue
go clear 7s smh
dont do it today
do it today
you do realize that for a lot of people the end goal is "being able to farm the content reliably" and most aren't really that focused on speed clears or competitive parsing :/
Wut?
i mean neither am i but i still strive to improve
actually nevermind that's not true ive given up on improving
ignore me
speedrunning seems to have infected gaming in general irreversibly though
Compititive parsing is not against farming content reliably
I don't wipe a raid if I do a mistake and die
also where was that comment coming from even?
Yeah I dont see why those 2 concepts are at odds?
just kinda seemed out of nowhere
All my PBs are from weeklies
people trotting out stuff like "if you're blue you haven't got a clue"
You mean the mods
hello it was me who said that
oh
here's a good
tip when dealing with things i say
dont listen to me
im memeing 90% of the time
They were meming on LMAO in general a few minutes ago
it was a message directed at LMAO after he @'d me in #memes-and-shitposting
when i said if someone's green don't be mean
Wait what's happening in here
lmao if ur blue u shouldnt talk about balance tbh
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green is straight up uninstall unlesd you died like 3 times
Grey= why are you playing again
if ur grey ur gey
yeah but ur not grey anymore so
My PLD memes
ur no longer gey buckaroo hand over that privilege pass
!whologs @paper torrent
Warrior: (6847/13169) [3404.7 DPS] [53.5 Historical] [8:46]
Paladin: (10416/14467) [2816.85 DPS] [28.0 Historical] [8:43]
Paladin: (8527/14212) [3578.71 DPS] [47.9 Historical] [9:45]
Warrior: (5098/12435) [4226.43 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [9:05]
oof
!whologs @lunar carbon
Summoner: (3137/7653) [5245.88 DPS] [61.4 Historical] [7:51]
Red Mage: (5972/7374) [4578.61 DPS] [30.1 Historical] [10:30]
Summoner: (2835/7270) [5733.41 DPS] [66.8 Historical] [8:50]
Summoner: (3774/5101) [5249.99 DPS] [26.3 Historical] [11:17]
me green SMN
me green me smash
!whologs @sour solstice
how much hp is melding vit + hq food
HQ food is like 2K HP
:o
Forsaken does 47K damage
At full hp on everything but caster we could probably survive that
Casters have higher magic Def
Same for healers
So they need like 44K to survive
Only aspect that casters are more squishy on is physical defense
๐ ty ty
just play BLM and manaward anything spooky <3
But there's no AOE that does physical damage in relevant content right now
head-on
apply directly to the forehead
None tanks just die if they are at the front anyhow
manaward my depression 
Without party mitigation
or you can mitigate it
but if you mitigate
casters usually still need to go back a bit
unless the adlo crits, or they don't have the wind
Haven't attempted to cheese it yet tbh
it's cozy
If we clear Godka at less than 10 attempts I get to be RL at the week after next
๐
So I can start making my static do all sorts of strats

full uptime strat for second forsaken~

my group doesn't do things like that
we just
clear with our homebrew strats and call it a day
It looks cancer for everyone involved
Eh, not really for everyone
Just movement for melee, and especially ranged, is a bit nuanced
Hi
heya
hey
stupid question but the red stone cap was gone, after the new raid tier right?
yeah like, when we get the next tier of omega
Previous capped tome is handouts next tier
mendacity will be uncapped
Always
and there'll be a new tomestone that's weekly
Mug, you taught me something I hadn't thought about when I dug into your Life windows lol. Delayed Life window, get ya three Nastronds, then at the end of it before the refresh GCD, use Blood to get 30s, then do do another three Nastronds back to back. I've been delaying the second set for a full refresh combo unnecessarily.

whats the thing that tracks dps again?
ACT?
most folks use ACT, Advanced Combat Tracker
ah thanks
Got a Shinryu PF up if anyone's interested
Still hunting that dog?
Question about Eureka. I just went through 7 30 chains to try and get the one protean crystal to give to Krile and I still have yet to get one and I have hit level 5. Am I super unlucky or is something wrong. I did level up to 2 to 4 with the train and did randomly get some Anemos crystals and lockboxes from 1 NM.
Were you inside a party?
no I had someone healing me outside of a party
Wait wait wait. What level are you?
5
Get into low level NM train (those exist). Go kill Cactuar and Lord and Emperor and Number and Bears and you'll have Protean Crystals falling out of your ears in the form of Anemos Crystals.
@unreal flax I did not know that thank you for the info
Exchange Anemos Crystals for Protean at the blacksmith
i cant yet because I have to get the 1 for Krile to open the quest
Oh
Yeah, once you have one anemos crystal, talk to my indebted drunk, Gerolt.
yes I went through about 7 30 chains with no luck
You reduce anemos crystals into protean crystals
Really? Oh wow hahah. rippo.
It's been so long
Yeah, fight level 5 creatures since you're level 5. You should get at least one.
It's really weird that you haven't.
if they are 1 level down it wont work
Yeah it is weird one of my FC members would heal me as I burn them and the chain kept going up and nothing
IIRC
gotcha
I know that the cactuars are level 5, the snurbles are level 5, and a few others near there
thank you for all the info I saw something about this on the Forums but all the info was just a shouting match
I will keep snurbles
for the fashion report, is there any distinction between jet black dye and general purpose jet black?
5 strength or 120 DH?
Should be 5 STR yeah, especially since you're not going to be losing 120DH while getting no other secondary in return
I want to get my 360 sword, but I already have a melded 355 eureka weapon
You get weapon damage, too
But mm, I dunno the secondaries of both off the top of my head, by any stretch haha. What are they?
Like tome should still be definitive upgrade, but if tome weapon is gonna be worst possible secondaries, it might not be awful to consider other tome purchases first if needed
I need to hurry up and get this Diamond spear so I can have the "right" SkS.
Cuz, you know
that's the only reason to get it
hi
You're using a crafted ring in your BiS to keep your SkS low, right? Somewhere in the low 600s to high 500s?
2.47s GCD?
Since I don't have the Diamond headpiece yet, I'm likely gonna be on the general BiS as well. I had my own lil BiS that sac'ed some Det for Crit/DH, but it required the Diamond head.
Oh, Mug! Question about something I was thinking about Saturday night. After O4S, are there any instance where you'd consider doing an early Geirskogul?
I ask here instead of the Balance for two reasons: I'm not in the Balance anymore and you're the only DRG I wanna be like.
(Except, I can't imagine playing so fucking slowly)
o6s drops a myth
I wouldn't do early gsk in any fight this tier
Quick question, is 4.3 when they'll take weekly lockout off on gear from sigma savage?
I think so. It should remove the weekly limit. Miiiight be a minor patch after it, but during 4.3 is when it should be unlocked.
More like 4.37
@heavy mist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY-srjP4IrI
wait
this tbh
plunge buff doesn't help average player?
No
do you know how many shitdrks i see kill themselvess with that?
It was memeing
or how plunge is guarenteed gcd clip
hes talking about buffing the players themselves

if you do it anytime outside the end of a gcd
Since the DRK player base is just bad
its a 50/50 for me
but i do hate my gauge running out cause im not paying attention
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Endgame DRG seems neat
!whoattributes @scenic patrol
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Yeye
TBN is ๐
What if I don't have TBN?
You cry
โ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฏ
Accurate
mch wildfire didnt' go off in the opener cuz he lost 1 packet
literally unplayable
and brd didn't palisade the last tb so pld died
Tippani Liz, strongo
anyone who knows how to use fflogs rly well: why does my static's logs not show up under our name?
tryna upload ucob and o5-o8s logs, but it doesnt show static's name under guild
@indigo steppe either it's not being uploaded under your static or your static members have not registered themselves as part of the static/linked their characters
I think you need like, 6 people to register themselves in the static
def have 8/8 in static
do they have their characters linked to fflogs?
ye
you need to make a group
and have your characters in it
not just your fflogs account
hmm, is there a healer shortage this tier?
healers have always been in demand
to me its tanks
sounds like confirmation bias
friends > pugs my dude
Who needs friends when you have parses
friends > non friends
!whologs @blazing pelican
Astrologian: (1093/9115) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1277/12776) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]
Scholar: (485/12253) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4546/14207) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]
Scholar: (257/9194) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]
Scholar: (182/7301) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]
Scholar: (583/5303) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]
...I'm so lonely
dont come to eu
my eu ping isnt that bad, it doesnt beat my chromosome count




I've got like 140 and I make it work pretty well
my ping can be either, hey i can play anything without killing my self to fuck it im gonna play chrome dinosaur
mine is 75
That's uh, a pretty big spike
5 less than maximum to doubleweave
how much ping for triple weave
-20
@ivory tiger you need to be able to see the future in order to triple weave

you need to be faster than time itself
what do you mean?
forgive my ignorance but you're allowed to eat in the evening right?
not me
a friend
he will raid while fasting afternoon
also you are allowed to eat at night
not evening
does he drink water atleast
no eat/drink from sunrise to sunset
and 46C on top of that
well that sounds downright stupid












might use that
