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Bard
i literally couldn't even reach 2400 crit in deltascape, you'll be fine 
Alright, my babies. Didn't clear O7S this week. I'm in your hands Friday and Saturday. Please be gentle.
Hmm, I wonder what we have planned tomorrow for raid haha, might be able to have my static help you, but probably not. Think we're probably gonna call raid Saturday though so I could probably help out then
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WHAT AM I DOING ON MNK
Bah, nvm.
Pacific, Primal
<3
!whologs @blazing pelican
Astrologian: (933/8486) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1198/11984) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]
Scholar: (424/11412) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4126/13310) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]
Scholar: (229/8553) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]
Scholar: (156/6667) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]
Scholar: (472/4747) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]
orange kefaust 

Congrats ๐
yeah the baseline for SCH for orange this tier seems to be 3k dps
so i just started eureka, but i'm still clueless, i know this is for relic stuff, but is there another quest i need to do for that or it will eventually all just come to me and make sense?
When you get your first protean crystal you can talk to geralt
Krille will give you quests to get more magica
ahh
For your little wheel thing and mounts at 17
When you're near level to fates you'll get anemos crystals from them
Those are used to get 350 gear
And to trade in to geralt for massive protean gains
To get the final step of weapon
That isn't in the vendor, you have to kill pazuzu at level 19 and get gold for 3 feathers
The last step just costs the 3 feathers
ahh alright, everything makes more sense now, thank you very much!
i wonder what i should do now that i beat stormblood.
Hell's lid
should i do the legend returns quests right now, or should i decide to level something now that my paladin is at 70

Generally it's a good idea to unlock expert roulette
It's a good way to cap on tomes
And get free creation
Once you hit 70 you should cap on tomes each week
That depends on what do you want to do at end game
In your place I would have rushed to as high as ilvl as possible to raid
But that's me

iโve never done a raid before so i wouldnโt know

most of my time on FFXIV has been playing paladin
wanna try some fun, maybe pick back up my lvl 50 black mage
or try time with machinist
maybe try being a healer

Raiding has interested me before I even got to level cap on HW
So now that I have time and no one to pester me, I can finally raid
Sigmascape has been fun

Anyhow, if you are interested in raid tanking I can show you the ropes a bit
Up to advanced knowledge about PLD
Only thing that I can't teach in regards to raid tanking is fight optimization outside of Warrior
so i have a wipe log with the same war https://www.fflogs.com/reports/vnwJAq3cZR4TDQbk#fight=last&type=summary&source=94 r they doing god right besides the usual upheavel or did they forget other cds?
Wut about the tank cds? Is he missing some he couldve blowed?
at least hes in dps stance....
For every cast of IR there should be 3 casts of Upheaval

correct me if i'm wrong
HES MISSING SOME
but what is wrong with his SE couont
Fucking invite that dude to the Balance so we can roast him already
I talked with your co heal
Yeah she mentioned something about that
But this is my war going actual dps
Vs his 2/3 tank stance in god memes
wait
Where he fucked up
Im sure he does like 100%?
is there some o8s strat i have no idea about
this dude's opener
She brought it up to balance after u told me about upheavel
is interesitng
Again, slap that dude
So hes still shit even tho hes supposedly in dps stance
He doesn't understand basic math and how GCDs VS 0GCDs work
Next lvl memes
I already out DPS him without Diamond weapon
that's some GOOD SHIT
!whologs @scenic patrol
Warrior: (866/12382) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]
Warrior: (1517/11671) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]
Warrior: (1452/8546) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:17]
Warrior: (1618/6472) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:40]
funny thing they basically fully gear
HOW.
Iirc he had war axe alrdy by that log
HOW DO YOU DO THAT LITTLE DAMAGE IN BIS.
I would have already been Orange if I had the fucking Diamond weapon
i just got the basic concept of war yday so i cant say
honest tank?
How the fuck does he parse below fucking purple?
only deliverance?
@lusty oak he doesn't use upheavel outside of ir

It's not pushing buttons, and the ones he's pushing aren't the right ones
Hes been clearin as an honest tank tho 
I told u our dps can carry hard
And link him the fucking opener
HOW IS THE PALADIN PARSING ABOVE HIM
I noticed
Standard opener
Which standard?
There's only one standard opener for WAR
god help this fucking tank
Just tell him that Upheaval has the potential to do more damage than a Fell Cleave
throw him this shit too while you're at it

Defiance + Unchained + Thrill of Battle
Adds up to 650 potency
God fucking damn it
he's acutally retarded
can you replace him easily?
YES.
Well i would
Idk if my static would agree
Not even that
If he's not willing to listen to others helping him play better
than dont allow him to stay
But i prioritize gameplay so its more me, i know my static realizes it now too
Upheaval is already Gauge efficient without even factoring being a zero GCD
Idk if they agree to that tho
just explain the situation with the rest of thes tatic
It's impossible to do speed with someone that retarded
note ven speed
Yea they get that
he's a fucking liability
U mean
to hit enrage
you legit probably can't put that shit on farm with that parse
My sch dps sure got BETTER from this
We havent hit enrage cause of other ppls dps
If u check any of our clears i guess
either way tho, i think you need to sit down with your static and discuss this dude
you wouldn't be wiping like this if you had an actual tank
he sounds like he's a serious liability tbh
Well shit u think
i need to see some improvemenrs
who not willing to get better
He's fucking feely crafting
Honest tank
WAR 75% is 4.3k
50th is 4.16k
and that's for CLEARS.
his DPS should be way higher 5 minutes in
he's not even hitting that
Memes?
this late in the tier?
Well first of all

I know 0 on tanks
My healer only saw it through other things we looked at
that was okay?
But you know plenty of people who know better
Our pld is tbh a chill guy
i'm interested to see why the PLD didn't care
He wont yell at our war
because he's legit gray
Let me try for grey on sch now that im bis too
Gotta just stand around or maybe 6+ deaths
My PLD is a chill dude, so I don't mind his low parses, but he is willing to listen and when we start to optimize dps I'll start to get him to top shape
Yea our.pld is chill and listens
He does do better when we tell him shit
doesn't listen to advice of people who are in his fucking static
Just need more buttons
My cohealer been yelling but hes not listening like some bad kdrama
like sure, clear parse being grey heck even that's okay for godka
we r going back tonight so im watchin this meme fest
w/e i'm a broken record at this point
tell him warrior pulls because of how it gens aggro with little loss due to unchained and equilbrium + thrill
if he parses he should see how his aggro shoots through the roof
Actually it's impossible for anyone to pull instead of a warrior anyhow
it'll save you guys a lot more trouble if he does that
Due to IR
im like almost certain he pulls
he's hitting the boss first right?
he has to be pulling, he's a goddamn warrior
with a pld
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/256756953 our clear is around 1 hr 50 min in
PLD loses the most in pulls
hes def pullng?
if he's not he fucking should be
i mean johni knows more about godka obviously
but i'm pretty sure tha'ts not how to pull as tank
defintely not as warrior
i linked it in rants earlier, i like drowning in salt
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/jFRbGPAHcv2aYVTJ#fight=19&type=damage-done
3.2k
guess wut tho
hes in tank stance
so its not even an accurate comparison to his supposed DPS stance he was trying
69% SE uptime
oh
my
lord
you should be, at the VERY least
90%.
more like 95%
Why is he doing Godka with tank stance?
godka punishes you so much for tank stance
It's a detriment there more than a boon for healers
heartless angel
i didnt know wut warrior icons meant till yday
def didnt know wut the fuq he was smoking till yday
You literally need to heal him more on Heartless Archangel because of Defiance
Since 0GCDs don't affect it
fun fact, he cds during forsaken
For what?
been over these logs before with some other friends
BUT WHY THO
u tell me
i got nothing
I appreciate "double drill" being used
it's the proper way to name a mechanic
based on the first time it shows up in a raid in the game
Thanks Bok
yes
also infurirate casts

i'm pretty sure he's not keeping up his beast guage higher for crit either
wuts double drill btw
double wing
gotcha
it's just double drill because A6S back in alex
!action sentinel
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the god cooldown
yep that works
Same for Vengeance
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!action vengeance
oo
Need 20% mitigation for double drill as OT
More than 25% as MT
or should i say
so embrace hits MT harder?
how the fuck do you guys not rip aggro off him
or just cause autos
he literally opens with heavy swing
Embrace hits both targets the same
Jesus
he used equilibrium in that log linked earlier
Intervention?
It depends on how it lines up
i mean heres his full logs his highest was 3.6 ๐ฆ
yea took a sec to realize it was cd lining up
Look at his median though

on average tanks don't really push for super high numbers, so parsing high isn't too bad
ASP are a bit different
and ranking as well
o no
but percentiles, you can do not too bad with being even ok sometimes
okay let's ignore train 'cause train is gay
Also my best O7S parse was literally first clear
timeframe judging by the ppl
because gear matters a lot less than people like to think
like, something is very wrong here
it's more just about having half a brain
๐ค i need to pad some purples in there, still working on that god
that train parse is impressive
also man you guys are really having fun with godka
i guess our pld has been blue 
And see what's up
Blue is okay
Not great but he's doing his part
Things that are orange in other fights will be purple at best on Godka
Well, hyperbole
war was pretty damn alive 
eating ice for uptime seems weird haha
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bit unnecessary
I have Rampart running there

Problem with missing that GCD is that it fucks me up later
And kinda desyncs the whole fight
don't need to miss a GCD though
Until I need to delay IR by 30 seconds in big trine
It's more like I'll prioritize not missing a GCD over dodging inner ice
I'll still try to dodge
sure, that I'll agree with
like, if you can eat it fine and have it be whatever, it's whatever
but you should generally be able to keep GCD rolling without eating that blizzard
Aye
I need to learn to be greedy on Celestriad
Or I am fucked up on Big Trine
It's kinda fucky how mistakes that happen 1st minute in the fight come bite my ass 3 mins in
I remember early on when my WAR realized sprint for celestriad made things so cozy, he was so excited
also good afternoon
good afternoon <3

maybe someday I'll get a better god kefka
I did beat my best O5S finally but not by much, so didn't really gain any notable ASP for it with how inflated it is haha
just a bit~
I dunno if I care enough to try to do that at some point
just would be nice to at least stay in top 10
that was an entertaining read
@sour solstice if you be like that WAR i'm going to flame you to hell and back
im gonna be
the legendary
0 vengenance WAR
that doesnt have rampart selected as a role action
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and has 20 casts of low blow on godfa
too bad you can't be like the honest DRK tank back in creator
so this tank guide y is raw intuition use for magic dmg? https://i.imgur.com/4m9S7P1.png
Autos
sharing 4th ultimate embrace will 90% of the time kill off one of the tanks
oh the variation 2 does forsaken 3 4 share. its the better one.
i would have gotten purple parse as brd if godka didnt enrage kill us at 0.1% @scenic patrol

5900 dps
I could've gotten a blue if i didn't fuck up
had to kill it as mch cause the party have brd
and 5650 as mch there isnt even average

what is the DPS check on Godka anyways
33k
huh
that's actually more relaxed than I was expecting
assuming that he's more-or-less targetable the whole time
godka dps check is easier than kefaust to me
since he doesnt go invulnerable for 1 min
figuring out when to whip out Bahamut is gonna be funnnnnnnnn on kefaust
(i'm just hitting that now because i'm slow)
dps check is only relevant in 1st 5 weeks or so in the tier
should still have enough damage output to do okay I think
dps should be aiming to 5500+ there
that should be manageable
extra is even better
my kill had 7 deaths and still had 15 secs to spare
i also had sub 1k dps 

in my static it's usually ultimate embrace
1 tank dies>wipe to next heartless archangel
autocorrect is so weird on ny phone
how?
either forgot to pop invuln, cotank doesn't move away in time, or they don't get healed in time
Grats on clear \O/
yea
they share it for 4th forsaken iirc
hmm ill let them know then
boss uses 5 embraces in whole fight
would prob help me cause i may or may not use essential dignity before 3rd forsaken
1 after forsaken 1 holmgang
and then when ultimate embrace comes it's on cd
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and also imo 2nd forsaken is ez
4th at forsaken 4 holm
3rd forsaken there's knockback, ultimate embrace, confuse, heartless archangel, and the safe quadrant
you can
time holmgang
to both not get knocked back
and stay up to embrace
but its on very tight timer
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u literally holmgang
the moment ultima finish its cast
and it will last for both hits
alrighty
gotta prepare benediction as holm will go out right after embrace or next auto will finish him up
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well, now that I think about it, I'll move to share 3rd+5th instead of share 4th
i do the heal...
i forgot
oh yes
2nd big trines
after double wings
recommended to share the 4th
sharing 3rd and 5th are easiest
shame HG doesn't have a shorter recast
ikr
due no tough hit be4 it
that CD
also i learnt the hard way
embrace is physical

rip to all tanks i didnt palisade
thinking its magical
my friends still using dark mind for it
well, that knowledge was available long ago
I feint it
he just won't listen to me
@scenic patrol i missed it tbh

i wish they put easy way
to know if an attack if physical or magical
the animation is vague to go by it
you can always use your
like how hyperdrive look physical
3 R D P A R T Y
ILLEGAL THIRD PARTY APPS
well, usually it's easy to distinguish outside of AOE busters
im ps4
ps4 limiations
could trial and error
poor soul
you can parry both now
nope
that was hw talk
you can't parry magic

otherwise WAR would be fucking busted defensive wise
what kinda stupid fantasy world is this
tell that
you'll see zero parries
lol
he is a special boy
he does parry aas
AAs
doing 0 dmg
ppl still didnt figure out how to do his charge yet

and have that guy go zombie
People know itโs shared damage
But go zombie easier
Since zombie doesnโt hit as hard as kefka confuse
rofl, this guy
he had a shin ex group
it had wipes and disbanded, after taking an hour + to fill
now he's got one up with "wolf in order of join" lootmaster
SMH
i hope he likes trying to solo farm it!
Bless the person gullible enough to be the 8th to join such a group.
Bless the person gullible enough to be the 2nd to join such a group.
I mean, it's going to disband after the first wolf anyway
implying youโll clear
Haha, very true
Probably won't fill in the first place.
The only time I'd consider joining a lootmater group would be if I just needed like... 3 totems.
I don't join them out of principle
poor ShinEX
probably the deadest content in the game
at least in terms of ever being cleared
People were doing it for first week or two then realise doing proper raid is better for mental health
i was going to say, ShinEX is basically a mid-tier Savage fight with crappier rewards

low-tier maybe
yeah, probably harder than 6 as well
If I upgrade my Eureka weapon, does it keep materia?
nope, you can only try to retrieve materia before upgrade then remeld after
Iโd love to learn and clear shin ru ex but due to lack of Intrest there, itโs as if I gotta take extreme measures
thanks rika
are you kidding me? phase 1 is the only good phase in the entire fight 
best extreme ever released
The first phase is fun but I hate everything about it
Hell I hate the fight in general
Shin ex most fun in the game
Never heard that before
Thordan stil stands as the best EX fight
Shin EX is fun first phase
i never did thordan ex when it was relevant so cant give opinion
Is good ๐
Mechanic vomit, but all the mechanics were familiar
I miss Heavensward 
Only time doing Thordan Ex was unsynced as three people with 340 gear
But of the stuff in Stormblood, ShinEx has been the most entertaining so far
It's like a very epic, coordinated dance
And the phase transitions, damn 
Yeah they nailed the presentation for that fight
My issue with it is the same as when fighting any humongous size thing up close. You can't tab target him because his nameplate is way above what my camera shows unless I point it like I'm trying to get an upskirt shot of the melees.
Yeah, that's a really annoying quirk in the game
Which is slightly annoying part of swapping back to the boss every heart.
if Shin just kept Phase 1 into the next 2 phases, like the intensity
i could see it being real good
Shin literally just used all of its abilities early on and was like, yeah i got nothing ๐คท
I like phase 2 because it's so error prone, but 3 gets a bit underwhelming, yeah
Teraslash is scary as heck, but beyond that it's mostly just different kinds of AoE
i think shin is charging up his protostar throughout p2
in p1 he literally do same shit he does in nm ver
p3 is where he start doing new shit
actually Shin Ex is pretty popular lately
probably because it's a fight that keeps you on your toes all the time, isn't horrendously repetitive (hi Susano), and it's hard enough that people mostly haven't gotten the rewards from it
partly because you don't get most of the higher end players in on it outside of patch cycle lulls, otherwise they're busy with Savage
Lakshmi is nice because it's easy and clears most of the time and for a lot of people it's specifically the dog they want the most
Shin is nice because it's rough and challenging
Susano is kind of irritating tbh lol
WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE
also, even if you HAVE gotten the rewards from it already
shin's a cash cow, like sephirot
those scales aren't ever coming down in price much i think
hmm, here's a question about attracting party members
if one group asks for meta and another doesn't
and oyu're a meta job, which do you usually join?
stat caps is weapon > chest/legs > head/arm/feet > belt > accessories
Although easiest DPS jump for tanks is accessories
350 to 350 pentamelded crafted is a very juicy jump
In dps
yeah i was just stating what slots shared stat caps
Around 350-450
If you can spare the mountains of gil for pentamelding the accessories then yeah
otherwise I'd go for the tomestone/savage stuff if you can't pay for it
since pentamelded doesn't beat tomestone/savage until the 4th meld i think
I could farm the shit
(assuming all materia is T6/5)
Pentamelding is quite cheap now compared to when I did it
Should be 1 million to 5 million range
Tbh
Full set
Materias should be between zero Gil to 3 million at worst
I got a new mouse
12 buttons but they are macros
I wonder if FF14 supports some of the weirder buttons like F24
the answer is no
no it doesnt
Dunno, can't you change the mouse binds?
I can
Anyhow rebind it so you can have extra buttons
And then change your bindings in game to accommodate
holy fuck its got some serious input lag
on the macros
oh wait
ok
if I dont add a delay on the mouse macro
shift+4 sometimes presses 4 first
what mouse is it
Corsair something
Scimitar
theres still a pause between pressing the button on the mouse and the shit happening in game
so I guess I need to be careful with my oGCDs
it shouldn't have a delay
if it's tied to something like f9
or something
if you're using the corsair macro recording software there will be tho
blah. how do you get people to join PFs you start when you're a red mage (besides switch mains)?
i've been trying to do shinryu lately and i'm trying to figure out how the hell to make a pf that's actually good
a friend of mine is way luckier than I am and I'm wondering just how much of a factor is that she's a DRG and I'm a RDM
... or if even it might actually 95%+ be because of the jobs, and not really luck at all?
i.e., she starts groups, they fill well, I start groups, they sit
well
rdm is more common, so the rdm slot is already taken
people also rather join fuller pfs
and not a lot of people do shin ex anymore
I usually see like 1 shin ex party and it's usually loot if there are any up at all
When should I use Chain Stratagem, to match up with Trick Attack?
Just when I see TA pop up?
@maiden iris best is 5 secs after battle litany
Kk, thanks!
4/5th gcd
!whoclasses @wet stag
are you proud of me rika senpai
congrats <3
!whoclasses @carmine grove
a question, now that i beat sigmascape normal i looked to savage and its ilevel requirement, so... where do i get good accessories? or do i have to buy the creation ones and upgrade those to hit 340
Yeah basically that
There's no real other way rn
You can walk in with 340 and 350 rings no problem
noted. sigma normal wasnt lucky to me this week. but its good to know since i need that 340 ilvl
i know i can get 340 left side gear with running delta savage a bunch.
You can farm sigma norms for bolts specifically
It just takes a while longer if you get shit on
i will assuming nothing better shows up.
If you are not going to do eureka for left side
Farm rabanastre to upgrade creation to 340
Not many people do delta savage
Also vit meld your right side unless you a tank
ok
guess im off to eureka then. sounds the best way to go.
where would i use raba coins to up gear?
Is it better to use the yellow script augmented gather tools, or to craft the lower ones and overmeld them?
the crafted ones have the advantage of being universal
Definitely, but as far as max potential goes?
Ala Mighan will be better if HQ and pentamelded
Ok thanks for sure
But getting there will be a pretty big investment
Im starting to realize gear is different like that then i thought. Is the 360 mendacity gear still good to aim for? I saw someone in full anemos gear that i didnt know about, and their gear was max overmelded to make insane stats
Do people go for anemos for the look, or just because maybe they already invested so much materia and the stats still are good anyways?
its just easy gearing
Ok thanks, im pretty new to endgame gear
The equivalent gear to Anemos stuff is either crafted or time gated by normal mode raids
So it's pretty good for catching up
Can't really go wrong with that investment
Full ryu takes a while
I have chest, legs, a ring and boots so far
The advantage of eureka is that it's gonna be supported in the future
And this tier looks like gonna be great for alts
The raid coming in 4.3 will make upgrades to that easily available too
Yeah
That's a thing
Fully upgraded Eureka gear will probably be the best at the end of the expansion
Is anemos armor going to be like relic armor where it grows with patches?
U could not say that about animas or zodiacs
Yeah, Anemos gear is the relic gear equivalent of this expansion
Good luck ๐
Man, Otegine is seriously fuckin trash.
could be worse
It throws everything so far out of alignment that I actually lose DPS even with harder hits lol
just gotta adapt <3
There's a Jump I have to delay like three GCDs because I have enough SkS that I'd end up clipping my Full Thrust combo trying to get it in before Vorpal.
And I can't do it before Full Thrust because Life Surge is up
morning
yo
otegine?
i360 Spear
ah
I'm sure it's fine in a fight with downtime, but something like O6S where there isn't really any downtime, GCD/CD alignment gets fucked up with my SkS
u just deal with it
ive had like sub 2.4 GCD for like 1.5 months
I have 889 SkS without any melds
To help you understand why this is so irritating, I have to use the tether after a Life Surged Full Thrust because Dragon Sight comes off CD a full second after the GCD is ready
I can either clip my GCD for a full second or delay it
delay bby
exactly
as long as u hit the buffs either
end of disembowel GCD to before CT
or in between
true thrust and full thrust
its fine
I doubleweave BL+Sight. Sight comes second. This is after Dis. When Sight comes back, it's after Life Surge, but juuuust outside of the GCD, so I can either delay my GCD to get it under Sight or I delay Sight to keep GCDs rolling. Can't do both.
it would either way
That's what I do normally, but when shit comes off CD at the last quarter of a GCD, you end up with clipping if you just hit it.
You've just reached the point I was saying
Yeah
It just sucks knowing where things should be lining up and having to throw allll that shit out the window because +1WD
eh
I don't like how only mnk has a nice flexible sks working
you can adjust to different sks as drg
I feel like SE made sks and sps for most classes feel so bad
I don't really feel that way
high sks isn't honestly terrible for drg
SkS still good, but yeah ๐ฆ
Side note
Eureka op
Legit have 350 ilevel
On all my 70s except nin now
This is the true gear endgame
the beginning of eureka is so hard
yeah its rough
you get 1 shot by everyone and you cant join fate trains much
well u can its just hard to get to it
and if they use aetheryte
u get left behind
i believe u can grind a bit by yourself to like lv 5 ish
that takes hours tho
even with a fuckin 8 man group
you just scum instances
and just try to get low level nms
if not leave and try again
if you can queue with someone and have them spawn low levels it's op
yeah, the big problem is that people in your party actively stop you from getting exp if they are too strong
that is the fact i hate
that i luckily got past
How did you do it ?
Full lvl 1 party ?
Cause I tried to help a friend get it but even when they aggro and I kill them in and outside the party they get no exp









