#endgame-lounge

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woeful prawn
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what class cryo

azure hill
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Bard

zinc vortex
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i literally couldn't even reach 2400 crit in deltascape, you'll be fine pepehands

hot plover
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alright

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screw Ucob then

unreal flax
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Alright, my babies. Didn't clear O7S this week. I'm in your hands Friday and Saturday. Please be gentle.

dull radish
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Hmm, I wonder what we have planned tomorrow for raid haha, might be able to have my static help you, but probably not. Think we're probably gonna call raid Saturday though so I could probably help out then

unreal flax
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โค

stable basin
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What time zone are you in?

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And datacenter of course.

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!whois @unreal flax

storm frostBOT
unreal flax
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WHAT AM I DOING ON MNK

stable basin
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Bah, nvm.

unreal flax
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Pacific, Primal

stable basin
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Wish I could help, but chaos.

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

unreal flax
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<3

blazing pelican
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!whologs @blazing pelican

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Astrologian: (933/8486) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1198/11984) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Scholar: (424/11412) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4126/13310) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Scholar: (229/8553) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (156/6667) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (472/4747) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]

blazing pelican
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orange kefaust partyparrot

woeful prawn
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3k GWnanamiCoconaSweat

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im missing 400 GWgoaSadness

sullen sable
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Orang

zinc vortex
azure hill
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Congrats ๐ŸŽ‰

blazing pelican
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yeah the baseline for SCH for orange this tier seems to be 3k dps

stable basin
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so i just started eureka, but i'm still clueless, i know this is for relic stuff, but is there another quest i need to do for that or it will eventually all just come to me and make sense?

paper torrent
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When you get your first protean crystal you can talk to geralt

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Krille will give you quests to get more magica

stable basin
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ahh

paper torrent
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For your little wheel thing and mounts at 17

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When you're near level to fates you'll get anemos crystals from them

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Those are used to get 350 gear

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And to trade in to geralt for massive protean gains

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To get the final step of weapon

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That isn't in the vendor, you have to kill pazuzu at level 19 and get gold for 3 feathers

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The last step just costs the 3 feathers

stable basin
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ahh alright, everything makes more sense now, thank you very much!

indigo kraken
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i wonder what i should do now that i beat stormblood.

sour solstice
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Hell's lid

indigo kraken
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should i do the legend returns quests right now, or should i decide to level something now that my paladin is at 70

paper torrent
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Generally it's a good idea to unlock expert roulette

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It's a good way to cap on tomes

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And get free creation

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Once you hit 70 you should cap on tomes each week

scenic patrol
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That depends on what do you want to do at end game

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In your place I would have rushed to as high as ilvl as possible to raid

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But that's me

indigo kraken
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iโ€™ve never done a raid before so i wouldnโ€™t know

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most of my time on FFXIV has been playing paladin

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wanna try some fun, maybe pick back up my lvl 50 black mage

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or try time with machinist

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maybe try being a healer

scenic patrol
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Raiding has interested me before I even got to level cap on HW

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So now that I have time and no one to pester me, I can finally raid

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Sigmascape has been fun

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Anyhow, if you are interested in raid tanking I can show you the ropes a bit

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Up to advanced knowledge about PLD

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Only thing that I can't teach in regards to raid tanking is fight optimization outside of Warrior

spice comet
paper torrent
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3 casts of upheavel

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nibba

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what

spice comet
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Wut about the tank cds? Is he missing some he couldve blowed?

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paissasquint at least hes in dps stance....

paper torrent
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89% se uptime in a 5 minute fight

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MONKAS

scenic patrol
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For every cast of IR there should be 3 casts of Upheaval

spice comet
paper torrent
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correct me if i'm wrong

spice comet
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HES MISSING SOME

paper torrent
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but what is wrong with his SE couont

scenic patrol
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Fucking invite that dude to the Balance so we can roast him already

spice comet
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My cohealer tried

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He doesnt want paissasquint

scenic patrol
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I talked with your co heal

spice comet
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Yeah she mentioned something about that

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But this is my war going actual dps

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Vs his 2/3 tank stance in god memes

paper torrent
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wait

spice comet
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Where he fucked up

paper torrent
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does he not pll

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pull*

spice comet
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Im sure he does like 100%?

paper torrent
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where the fuck is his equi

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or tomahawk

spice comet
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Cause he has boss till celestraid around there

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Idk up his ass?

paper torrent
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is there some o8s strat i have no idea about

spice comet
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Oh i was mentioned :V yea thats my cohealer

paper torrent
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this dude's opener

spice comet
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She brought it up to balance after u told me about upheavel

paper torrent
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is interesitng

scenic patrol
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Again, slap that dude

spice comet
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So hes still shit even tho hes supposedly in dps stance

scenic patrol
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He doesn't understand basic math and how GCDs VS 0GCDs work

spice comet
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Doing real dps

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10/10

paper torrent
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Johni

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do you open with memeheavel

spice comet
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Next lvl memes

paper torrent
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on o8s?

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'cause check his timeline

scenic patrol
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I already out DPS him without Diamond weapon

paper torrent
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that's some GOOD SHIT

scenic patrol
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!whologs @scenic patrol

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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (866/12382) [4387.11 DPS] [93.2 Historical] [7:43]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (1517/11671) [4669.6 DPS] [87.2 Historical] [8:37]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1452/8546) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:17]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1618/6472) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:40]

paper torrent
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i don't even think that's memeheavel

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opener

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it doesn't even look like an opener

spice comet
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paissasquint funny thing they basically fully gear

paper torrent
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HOW.

spice comet
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Iirc he had war axe alrdy by that log

paper torrent
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HOW DO YOU DO THAT LITTLE DAMAGE IN BIS.

scenic patrol
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I would have already been Orange if I had the fucking Diamond weapon

spice comet
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namazuthink i just got the basic concept of war yday so i cant say

lusty oak
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honest tank?

scenic patrol
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How the fuck does he parse below fucking purple?

lusty oak
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only deliverance?

paper torrent
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@lusty oak he doesn't use upheavel outside of ir

scenic patrol
spice comet
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No no hes not even honest in that log

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Hes in his dps stance thing

dull radish
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It's not pushing buttons, and the ones he's pushing aren't the right ones

spice comet
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Hes been clearin as an honest tank tho paissasquint

paper torrent
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he's been carried

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to o8s

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holy shit these logs are legit fucking garbage

scenic patrol
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Anyhow, tell him to fucking use Upheaval on CD

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After opener

spice comet
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I told u our dps can carry hard

scenic patrol
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And link him the fucking opener

paper torrent
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HOW IS THE PALADIN PARSING ABOVE HIM

scenic patrol
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I noticed

spice comet
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paissasquint even healer dps i recently got that up with my coheals too

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The memeheavel?

paper torrent
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no

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standard opener

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i was just joking about memeheavel

scenic patrol
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Standard opener

spice comet
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Which standard?

paper torrent
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holy fucking shit

scenic patrol
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There's only one standard opener for WAR

spice comet
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Ur talking to a sch all i got is tanks poke things

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Nice

paper torrent
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god help this fucking tank

scenic patrol
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Just tell him that Upheaval has the potential to do more damage than a Fell Cleave

paper torrent
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throw him this shit too while you're at it

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scenic patrol
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Defiance + Unchained + Thrill of Battle

spice comet
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Tbh we tried

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Doesnt listen

scenic patrol
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Adds up to 650 potency

spice comet
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Legit

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Hes all like he kicked a dummy

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And FC has more dps

paper torrent
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holy

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fucking

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shit

scenic patrol
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God fucking damn it

paper torrent
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he's acutally retarded

steady pebble
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can you replace him easily?

paper torrent
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YES.

spice comet
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Well i would

paper torrent
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YOU CAN REPLACE A TANK THIS BAD.

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

spice comet
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Idk if my static would agree

paper torrent
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IT'S LIKE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW OGCDS WORK.

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IT'S FUCKING INFURIATING

scenic patrol
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Not even that

steady pebble
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If he's not willing to listen to others helping him play better

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than dont allow him to stay

spice comet
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But i prioritize gameplay so its more me, i know my static realizes it now too

scenic patrol
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Upheaval is already Gauge efficient without even factoring being a zero GCD

spice comet
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Idk if they agree to that tho

steady pebble
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just explain the situation with the rest of thes tatic

scenic patrol
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It's impossible to do speed with someone that retarded

paper torrent
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note ven speed

spice comet
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Yea they get that

paper torrent
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he's a fucking liability

spice comet
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U mean

paper torrent
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to hit enrage

spice comet
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A normal clear

paper torrent
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you legit probably can't put that shit on farm with that parse

spice comet
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My sch dps sure got BETTER from this

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We havent hit enrage cause of other ppls dps

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If u check any of our clears i guess

paper torrent
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you would be so much comfy

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if he wasn't there

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100%

steady pebble
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either way tho, i think you need to sit down with your static and discuss this dude

paper torrent
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you wouldn't be wiping like this if you had an actual tank

steady pebble
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he sounds like he's a serious liability tbh

spice comet
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Well shit u think paissasquint i need to see some improvemenrs

steady pebble
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who not willing to get better

spice comet
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Oh no this was our optimization run

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Check any godka clears

scenic patrol
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He's fucking feely crafting

spice comet
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Honest tank

paper torrent
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WAR 75% is 4.3k

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50th is 4.16k

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and that's for CLEARS.

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his DPS should be way higher 5 minutes in

spice comet
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Thought i give them a chance with a run where they try for dps

paper torrent
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he's not even hitting that

scenic patrol
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I out DPS him on Godka prog already

spice comet
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His uh god clears r like 3.2

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Btw

paper torrent
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????????????????

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and you thought that was okay?

spice comet
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Memes?

paper torrent
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this late in the tier?

spice comet
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Well first of all

paper torrent
spice comet
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I know 0 on tanks

paper torrent
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okay

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but your cotank

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thought

spice comet
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My healer only saw it through other things we looked at

paper torrent
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that was okay?

scenic patrol
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But you know plenty of people who know better

spice comet
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Our pld is tbh a chill guy

paper torrent
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i'm interested to see why the PLD didn't care

spice comet
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He wont yell at our war

paper torrent
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Holy fuck

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how the fuck do you parse this low with bis

spice comet
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Y poke it hard

paper torrent
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because he's legit gray

spice comet
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Let me try for grey on sch now that im bis too

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Gotta just stand around or maybe 6+ deaths

scenic patrol
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My PLD is a chill dude, so I don't mind his low parses, but he is willing to listen and when we start to optimize dps I'll start to get him to top shape

spice comet
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Yea our.pld is chill and listens

paper torrent
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the difference is

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this guy parses like shit

spice comet
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He does do better when we tell him shit

paper torrent
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doesn't listen to advice of people who are in his fucking static

spice comet
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Just need more buttons

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My cohealer been yelling but hes not listening like some bad kdrama

paper torrent
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like sure, clear parse being grey heck even that's okay for godka

spice comet
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paissasquint we r going back tonight so im watchin this meme fest

paper torrent
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w/e i'm a broken record at this point

spice comet
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Oh my coheals streams so we'll see this shit

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namazuthink raids usually 9est

paper torrent
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tell him warrior pulls because of how it gens aggro with little loss due to unchained and equilbrium + thrill

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if he parses he should see how his aggro shoots through the roof

scenic patrol
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Actually it's impossible for anyone to pull instead of a warrior anyhow

paper torrent
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it'll save you guys a lot more trouble if he does that

scenic patrol
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Due to IR

spice comet
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im like almost certain he pulls

paper torrent
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he's hitting the boss first right?

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he has to be pulling, he's a goddamn warrior

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with a pld

spice comet
paper torrent
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PLD loses the most in pulls

spice comet
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hes def pullng?

paper torrent
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if he's not he fucking should be

spice comet
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weekly clear more like

paper torrent
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i mean johni knows more about godka obviously

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but i'm pretty sure tha'ts not how to pull as tank

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defintely not as warrior

spice comet
paper torrent
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3.2k

spice comet
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guess wut tho

paper torrent
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I'M SORRY.

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WHAT?

spice comet
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hes in tank stance

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so its not even an accurate comparison to his supposed DPS stance he was trying

paper torrent
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69% SE uptime

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oh

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my

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lord

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you should be, at the VERY least

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90%.

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more like 95%

scenic patrol
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Why is he doing Godka with tank stance?

spice comet
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idk

paper torrent
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godka punishes you so much for tank stance

scenic patrol
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It's a detriment there more than a boon for healers

paper torrent
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heartless angel

spice comet
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i didnt know wut warrior icons meant till yday

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def didnt know wut the fuq he was smoking till yday

scenic patrol
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You literally need to heal him more on Heartless Archangel because of Defiance

paper torrent
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4 upheavels

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WHAT

scenic patrol
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Since 0GCDs don't affect it

paper torrent
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he HAD 10 IRS

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BUT 4 HEAVELS.

spice comet
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paissasquint fun fact, he cds during forsaken

scenic patrol
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For what?

spice comet
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paissasquint been over these logs before with some other friends

paper torrent
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BUT WHY THO

spice comet
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u tell me

scenic patrol
spice comet
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i got nothing

scenic patrol
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Look at this shit

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This is how you do Godka

dull radish
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I appreciate "double drill" being used

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it's the proper way to name a mechanic

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based on the first time it shows up in a raid in the game

scenic patrol
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Thanks Bok

dull radish
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it then always has that name

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in any kind of variant

spice comet
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so that graph

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blows all the cdss

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correctly?

paper torrent
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yes

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also infurirate casts

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i'm pretty sure he's not keeping up his beast guage higher for crit either

spice comet
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wuts double drill btw

dull radish
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double wing

spice comet
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gotcha

dull radish
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it's just double drill because A6S back in alex

spice comet
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ohhh i see, so pld just needs sentinel for wings

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๐Ÿ‘€

scenic patrol
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PLD as OT can just use Shelltron

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On wings

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But using Sentinel there is "free"

spice comet
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!action sentinel

storm frostBOT
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**Sentinel** : lvl 38 Gladiator (180 second cooldown)

Reduces damage taken by 40%.
Duration: 10s

spice comet
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๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘

paper torrent
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the god cooldown

spice comet
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yep that works

scenic patrol
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Same for Vengeance

paper torrent
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๐Ÿ˜ค

spice comet
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!action vengeance

storm frostBOT
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**Vengeance** : lvl 46 Marauder (120 second cooldown)

Reduces damage taken by 30% and delivers an attack with a potency of 50 every time you suffer physical damage.
Duration: 15s

spice comet
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oo

scenic patrol
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Need 20% mitigation for double drill as OT

paper torrent
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geninue question

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why the fuck

scenic patrol
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More than 25% as MT

paper torrent
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or should i say

spice comet
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so embrace hits MT harder?

paper torrent
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how the fuck do you guys not rip aggro off him

spice comet
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or just cause autos

paper torrent
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he literally opens with heavy swing

spice comet
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ninja

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smoke

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whm lucid

scenic patrol
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Embrace hits both targets the same

paper torrent
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Jesus

spice comet
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paissasquint MAN i wonder!

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no i mean y embrace more mitigation on mt

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just cause autos?

dull radish
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he used equilibrium in that log linked earlier

scenic patrol
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Intervention?

spice comet
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sentinel

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but nvm looking closer more like cause ๐Ÿค” its just how cds line up

scenic patrol
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It depends on how it lines up

spice comet
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i mean heres his full logs his highest was 3.6 ๐Ÿ’ฆ

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yea took a sec to realize it was cd lining up

scenic patrol
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I parse the same as him on O6S

paper torrent
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wait

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he parses purple

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on every other fight

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including kefaust

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how.

scenic patrol
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Look at his median though

paper torrent
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WHAT THE FUCK

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IS THAT MEDIAN

spice comet
dull radish
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on average tanks don't really push for super high numbers, so parsing high isn't too bad

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ASP are a bit different

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and ranking as well

paper torrent
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o no

dull radish
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but percentiles, you can do not too bad with being even ok sometimes

paper torrent
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7 kills and median and higehst is single digit

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oh no

spice comet
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yea cause for some reason

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he does like ....tank stance in god

paper torrent
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24-29 in kefaust

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oh no

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highest was from march

scenic patrol
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Those are mine

spice comet
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diamond was hm trying to remember

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looks even

paper torrent
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yes

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and remeber Johni isn't BIS

scenic patrol
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Those are his

spice comet
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i wanna say 17th was diamond wep

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around that

paper torrent
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okay let's ignore train 'cause train is gay

scenic patrol
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Also my best O7S parse was literally first clear

spice comet
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timeframe judging by the ppl

paper torrent
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Johni has not only higher averages

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but a highest highest parse

dull radish
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because gear matters a lot less than people like to think

paper torrent
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like, something is very wrong here

dull radish
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it's more just about having half a brain

spice comet
paper torrent
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that train parse is impressive

spice comet
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paissasquint the gods were in my favor

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one time

paper torrent
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also man you guys are really having fun with godka

spice comet
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ive been slowly uping it

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hope ill reach at least close to blue paissasquint

scenic patrol
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I'll likely be blue on my first Godka clear

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Gonna continue prog on Sunday

spice comet
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i guess our pld has been blue paissasquint

scenic patrol
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And see what's up

paper torrent
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Blue is okay

scenic patrol
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Godka is retarded percentile wise

paper torrent
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Not great but he's doing his part

dull radish
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it's not bad

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it's ASP that are a bit dumb

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but not as bad as train

scenic patrol
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Things that are orange in other fights will be purple at best on Godka

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Well, hyperbole

spice comet
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i have a few issues but our pld died twice and got higher

scenic patrol
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But you get my point

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On avarage the guys who clear Godka are just better

spice comet
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war was pretty damn alive paissasquint

scenic patrol
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I am going to start eating ice in first Celestriad on Sunday

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Muh uptime

spice comet
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paissasquint ill update the memes after tonight cause SUPPOSEDLY gonna do DPS

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๐Ÿ”ช

dull radish
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eating ice for uptime seems weird haha

paper torrent
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๐Ÿ™

dull radish
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bit unnecessary

scenic patrol
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I have Rampart running there

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Problem with missing that GCD is that it fucks me up later

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And kinda desyncs the whole fight

dull radish
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don't need to miss a GCD though

scenic patrol
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Until I need to delay IR by 30 seconds in big trine

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It's more like I'll prioritize not missing a GCD over dodging inner ice

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I'll still try to dodge

dull radish
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sure, that I'll agree with

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like, if you can eat it fine and have it be whatever, it's whatever

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but you should generally be able to keep GCD rolling without eating that blizzard

scenic patrol
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Aye

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I need to learn to be greedy on Celestriad

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Or I am fucked up on Big Trine

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It's kinda fucky how mistakes that happen 1st minute in the fight come bite my ass 3 mins in

pure yoke
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use sprint

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for celestriad

dull radish
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I remember early on when my WAR realized sprint for celestriad made things so cozy, he was so excited

pure yoke
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also good afternoon

dull radish
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good afternoon <3

pure yoke
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I made it to top 3 all stars for drg today

dull radish
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nice~

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I got bumped down to 11th

pure yoke
dull radish
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maybe someday I'll get a better god kefka

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I did beat my best O5S finally but not by much, so didn't really gain any notable ASP for it with how inflated it is haha

pure yoke
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nice

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I cheated with my o5s

dull radish
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just a bit~

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I dunno if I care enough to try to do that at some point

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just would be nice to at least stay in top 10

scenic patrol
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That's a nice tip Mug

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Thanks

sour solstice
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that was an entertaining read

paper torrent
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@sour solstice if you be like that WAR i'm going to flame you to hell and back

sour solstice
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im gonna be

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the legendary

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0 vengenance WAR

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that doesnt have rampart selected as a role action

paper torrent
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๐Ÿ˜ 

sour solstice
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and has 20 casts of low blow on godfa

dull radish
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too bad you can't be like the honest DRK tank back in creator

spice comet
wet stag
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Autos

scenic patrol
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And the fact that the CD stays up until Embrace

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If used correctly

woeful prawn
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sharing 4th ultimate embrace will 90% of the time kill off one of the tanks

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oh the variation 2 does forsaken 3 4 share. its the better one.

boreal edge
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i would have gotten purple parse as brd if godka didnt enrage kill us at 0.1% @scenic patrol

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5900 dps

steep iris
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I could've gotten a blue if i didn't fuck up

boreal edge
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had to kill it as mch cause the party have brd

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and 5650 as mch there isnt even average

vital cypress
#

what is the DPS check on Godka anyways

wet stag
#

33k

boreal edge
#

32.5k

#

can get as low as 31.7k

#

if u got the 10:55 enrage

vital cypress
#

huh

#

that's actually more relaxed than I was expecting

#

assuming that he's more-or-less targetable the whole time

boreal edge
#

godka dps check is easier than kefaust to me

#

since he doesnt go invulnerable for 1 min

vital cypress
#

figuring out when to whip out Bahamut is gonna be funnnnnnnnn on kefaust

#

(i'm just hitting that now because i'm slow)

boreal edge
#

dps check is only relevant in 1st 5 weeks or so in the tier

vital cypress
#

i think you're giving me too much credit

#

because i'm bad

heavy mist
#

plus u can get TWO LB3s

#

minimum

#

which is like what

vital cypress
#

should still have enough damage output to do okay I think

heavy mist
#

1.4k dps?

#

in godka

boreal edge
#

dps should be aiming to 5500+ there

vital cypress
#

that should be manageable

boreal edge
#

extra is even better

steep iris
#

yea, the dps check isn't as bad

#

my first clear we had quite a bit of deaths

boreal edge
#

my kill had 7 deaths and still had 15 secs to spare

steep iris
#

i also had sub 1k dps haha

boreal edge
steep iris
#

first clear so i wanted to play it safe

#

now i kinda know what's going on :D

boreal edge
#

idk how forsaken 3 kill ppl

#

while its simpler than 2nd

steep iris
#

in my static it's usually ultimate embrace

#

1 tank dies>wipe to next heartless archangel

#

autocorrect is so weird on ny phone

boreal edge
#

how?

steep iris
#

either forgot to pop invuln, cotank doesn't move away in time, or they don't get healed in time

hybrid rapids
#

Grats on clear \O/

boreal edge
#

well making a tank solo that speceific embrace is on tight timer

#

on moving out

steep iris
#

yea

boreal edge
#

might just share it

#

and hope u survive

steep iris
#

they share it for 4th forsaken iirc

boreal edge
#

u have to share 3rd

#

due cds lining up

#

in 4th you can have war solo it

steep iris
#

hmm ill let them know then

boreal edge
#

boss uses 5 embraces in whole fight

steep iris
#

would prob help me cause i may or may not use essential dignity before 3rd forsaken

boreal edge
#

1 after forsaken 1 holmgang

steep iris
#

and then when ultimate embrace comes it's on cd

hybrid rapids
#

๐Ÿ˜จ

boreal edge
#

2nd after forsaken 2 HG

#

3rd at forsaken 3

steep iris
#

and also imo 2nd forsaken is ez

boreal edge
#

4th at forsaken 4 holm

steep iris
#

3rd forsaken there's knockback, ultimate embrace, confuse, heartless archangel, and the safe quadrant

boreal edge
#

you can

#

time holmgang

#

to both not get knocked back

#

and stay up to embrace

#

but its on very tight timer

steep iris
#

๐Ÿ‘€

boreal edge
#

u literally holmgang

#

the moment ultima finish its cast

#

and it will last for both hits

steep iris
#

alrighty

boreal edge
#

gotta prepare benediction as holm will go out right after embrace or next auto will finish him up

hybrid rapids
#

spearya

#

i just want to say

#

4th embrace isn't in 4th forsaken

#

that's 5th

boreal edge
#

1 after 1st

#

1 after 2nd

#

1 at 3rd

scenic patrol
#

3 in 3

#

4 after 3

boreal edge
#

there is no embrace after 3rd

#

just hyperdrive

hybrid rapids
#

๐Ÿ˜”

scenic patrol
#

well, now that I think about it, I'll move to share 3rd+5th instead of share 4th

boreal edge
#

nvm

#

lemme look in vid

hybrid rapids
#

i do the heal...

boreal edge
#

i forgot

pure yoke
#

there is an embrace

#

after big trines

boreal edge
#

oh yes

pure yoke
#

2nd big trines

boreal edge
#

after double wings

scenic patrol
#

double drill into Embrace

#

either share or Holm it

#

HG is already used

hybrid rapids
#

recommended to share the 4th

boreal edge
#

sharing 3rd and 5th are easiest

scenic patrol
#

shame HG doesn't have a shorter recast

hybrid rapids
#

ikr

boreal edge
#

due no tough hit be4 it

hybrid rapids
#

it's best action in game

#

!action hallowed ground

storm frostBOT
#
**Hallowed Ground** : lvl 50 Paladin (420 second cooldown)

Renders you impervious to most attacks.
Duration: 10s

hybrid rapids
#

that CD

boreal edge
#

also i learnt the hard way

#

embrace is physical

#

rip to all tanks i didnt palisade

#

thinking its magical

hybrid rapids
#

my friends still using dark mind for it

scenic patrol
#

well, that knowledge was available long ago

pure yoke
#

I feint it

hybrid rapids
#

he just won't listen to me

scenic patrol
#

lmao

#

DM on Embrace

boreal edge
#

@scenic patrol i missed it tbh

scenic patrol
hybrid rapids
#

wait

#

let me show

scenic patrol
#

well, I need to sleep

#

see ya nerds

boreal edge
#

i wish they put easy way

#

to know if an attack if physical or magical

#

the animation is vague to go by it

pure yoke
#

you can always use your

boreal edge
#

like how hyperdrive look physical

paper torrent
#

3 R D P A R T Y

pure yoke
#

ILLEGAL THIRD PARTY APPS

scenic patrol
#

well, usually it's easy to distinguish outside of AOE busters

boreal edge
#

im ps4

paper torrent
#

ps4 limiations

pure yoke
#

could trial and error

hybrid rapids
scenic patrol
#

poor soul

pure yoke
#

make warrior raw int it

#

if they parry

#

it's physical

boreal edge
#

you can parry both now

scenic patrol
#

nope

boreal edge
#

that was hw talk

scenic patrol
#

can block both

#

parry is only physical

pure yoke
#

you can't parry magic

boreal edge
paper torrent
#

FF game

#

can't parry magic

scenic patrol
#

otherwise WAR would be fucking busted defensive wise

paper torrent
#

what kinda stupid fantasy world is this

scenic patrol
#

it already kinda is

#

but only on physical fights

boreal edge
#

what the flip mun?

scenic patrol
#

anyhow, you can't parry magical

#

go check chaddy logs

hybrid rapids
#

tell that

scenic patrol
#

you'll see zero parries

hybrid rapids
#

to sophia's knight

#

he parried my provoke

boreal edge
#

lol

pure yoke
#

he is a special boy

hybrid rapids
#

that boi can parry the world

#

except AA

boreal edge
#

he does parry aas

#

AAs

#

doing 0 dmg

#

ppl still didnt figure out how to do his charge yet

#

and have that guy go zombie

hybrid rapids
#

People know itโ€™s shared damage

#

But go zombie easier

#

Since zombie doesnโ€™t hit as hard as kefka confuse

stable basin
#

rofl, this guy

#

he had a shin ex group

#

it had wipes and disbanded, after taking an hour + to fill

#

now he's got one up with "wolf in order of join" lootmaster

#

SMH

#

i hope he likes trying to solo farm it!

azure hill
#

Let me guess

#

He caused the first wipe too?

junior basin
#

Bless the person gullible enough to be the 8th to join such a group.

azure hill
#

Bless the person gullible enough to be the 2nd to join such a group.

#

I mean, it's going to disband after the first wolf anyway

torn kindle
#

implying youโ€™ll clear

azure hill
#

Haha, very true

junior basin
#

Probably won't fill in the first place.

#

The only time I'd consider joining a lootmater group would be if I just needed like... 3 totems.

azure hill
#

I don't join them out of principle

vital cypress
#

poor ShinEX

#

probably the deadest content in the game

#

at least in terms of ever being cleared

lucid karma
#

People were doing it for first week or two then realise doing proper raid is better for mental health

vital cypress
#

i was going to say, ShinEX is basically a mid-tier Savage fight with crappier rewards

sleek belfry
vital cypress
#

low-tier maybe

sleek belfry
#

Well I guess it's harder than O1-2

#

But that's it much of a feat

vital cypress
#

yeah, probably harder than 6 as well

sleek belfry
#

Yeah

#

Easier than then rest though

azure hill
#

ShinEx is fun though

#

Probably one of the most fun fights in the game

sour solstice
#

If I upgrade my Eureka weapon, does it keep materia?

dull radish
#

nope, you can only try to retrieve materia before upgrade then remeld after

tired burrow
#

Iโ€™d love to learn and clear shin ru ex but due to lack of Intrest there, itโ€™s as if I gotta take extreme measures

sour solstice
#

thanks rika

boreal edge
#

to me shinryu ex only gets fun in last phase

#

p1 is annoying

#

i miss thordan ex

zinc vortex
#

are you kidding me? phase 1 is the only good phase in the entire fight pepehands

boreal edge
#

best extreme ever released

rustic lichen
#

The first phase is fun but I hate everything about it

#

Hell I hate the fight in general

unreal lance
#

Shin ex most fun in the game

#

Never heard that before

#

Thordan stil stands as the best EX fight

heavy mist
#

Shin EX is fun first phase

#

i never did thordan ex when it was relevant so cant give opinion

sullen sable
#

Is good ๐Ÿ‘

heavy mist
#

i did it unsynced

#

and literally it was just flashing lights

zinc vortex
#

is good

#

many fun nights were had with friends progging it

sullen sable
#

Mechanic vomit, but all the mechanics were familiar

azure hill
#

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as Rider

#

I've never done any of the HW ones synced

sullen sable
#

I miss Heavensward FeelsBadMan

azure hill
#

Only time doing Thordan Ex was unsynced as three people with 340 gear

#

But of the stuff in Stormblood, ShinEx has been the most entertaining so far

#

It's like a very epic, coordinated dance

#

And the phase transitions, damn meowaww

sullen sable
#

Yeah they nailed the presentation for that fight

junior basin
#

My issue with it is the same as when fighting any humongous size thing up close. You can't tab target him because his nameplate is way above what my camera shows unless I point it like I'm trying to get an upskirt shot of the melees.

azure hill
#

Yeah, that's a really annoying quirk in the game

junior basin
#

Which is slightly annoying part of swapping back to the boss every heart.

heavy mist
#

if Shin just kept Phase 1 into the next 2 phases, like the intensity

#

i could see it being real good

#

Shin literally just used all of its abilities early on and was like, yeah i got nothing ๐Ÿคท

azure hill
#

I like phase 2 because it's so error prone, but 3 gets a bit underwhelming, yeah

#

Teraslash is scary as heck, but beyond that it's mostly just different kinds of AoE

woeful prawn
#

i think shin is charging up his protostar throughout p2

boreal edge
#

in p1 he literally do same shit he does in nm ver

#

p3 is where he start doing new shit

stable basin
#

actually Shin Ex is pretty popular lately

#

probably because it's a fight that keeps you on your toes all the time, isn't horrendously repetitive (hi Susano), and it's hard enough that people mostly haven't gotten the rewards from it

#

partly because you don't get most of the higher end players in on it outside of patch cycle lulls, otherwise they're busy with Savage

#

Lakshmi is nice because it's easy and clears most of the time and for a lot of people it's specifically the dog they want the most

#

Shin is nice because it's rough and challenging

#

Susano is kind of irritating tbh lol

torn kindle
#

WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE

stable basin
#

also, even if you HAVE gotten the rewards from it already

#

shin's a cash cow, like sephirot

#

those scales aren't ever coming down in price much i think

stable basin
#

hmm, here's a question about attracting party members

#

if one group asks for meta and another doesn't

#

and oyu're a meta job, which do you usually join?

sour solstice
#

legs give about the same stats as chests right?

#

thats why they cost the same?

torn kindle
#

They have the same stat caps

#

so yeah

sour solstice
#

kk

#

time to but yellow pants on WAR then

#

buy*

torn kindle
#

stat caps is weapon > chest/legs > head/arm/feet > belt > accessories

scenic patrol
#

Although easiest DPS jump for tanks is accessories

#

350 to 350 pentamelded crafted is a very juicy jump

#

In dps

torn kindle
#

yeah i was just stating what slots shared stat caps

scenic patrol
#

Around 350-450

sour solstice
#

I need to check the BiS list

#

is pentamelded bis?

torn kindle
#

If you can spare the mountains of gil for pentamelding the accessories then yeah

#

otherwise I'd go for the tomestone/savage stuff if you can't pay for it

#

since pentamelded doesn't beat tomestone/savage until the 4th meld i think

sour solstice
#

I could farm the shit

torn kindle
#

(assuming all materia is T6/5)

scenic patrol
#

Pentamelding is quite cheap now compared to when I did it

#

Should be 1 million to 5 million range

#

Tbh

#

Full set

sour solstice
#

its gonna be, without materia

#

like 1.4 mil

scenic patrol
#

Materias should be between zero Gil to 3 million at worst

sour solstice
#

I got a new mouse

#

12 buttons but they are macros

#

I wonder if FF14 supports some of the weirder buttons like F24

#

the answer is no

#

no it doesnt

scenic patrol
#

Dunno, can't you change the mouse binds?

sour solstice
#

I can

scenic patrol
#

Change it then

#

Num pad numbers are nice for that

sour solstice
#

or like ctrl 9

#

good luck pressing that

scenic patrol
#

I have Ctrl bound to my mouse button

#

And shift as well

sour solstice
#

I just use my pinky

#

hurts a little after a few hours of play

#

but eh

scenic patrol
#

Anyhow rebind it so you can have extra buttons

#

And then change your bindings in game to accommodate

sour solstice
#

holy fuck its got some serious input lag

#

on the macros

#

oh wait

#

ok

#

if I dont add a delay on the mouse macro

#

shift+4 sometimes presses 4 first

steep iris
#

what mouse is it

sour solstice
#

Corsair something

#

Scimitar

#

theres still a pause between pressing the button on the mouse and the shit happening in game

#

so I guess I need to be careful with my oGCDs

paper torrent
#

it shouldn't have a delay

#

if it's tied to something like f9

#

or something

#

if you're using the corsair macro recording software there will be tho

sour solstice
#

I need to look deeper into it

#

But fuck me man, im tired

paper torrent
#

there's always tommorow, birthday

#

is made for having fun and then rest

#

๐Ÿ’ค

stable basin
#

blah. how do you get people to join PFs you start when you're a red mage (besides switch mains)?

#

i've been trying to do shinryu lately and i'm trying to figure out how the hell to make a pf that's actually good

#

a friend of mine is way luckier than I am and I'm wondering just how much of a factor is that she's a DRG and I'm a RDM

#

... or if even it might actually 95%+ be because of the jobs, and not really luck at all?

#

i.e., she starts groups, they fill well, I start groups, they sit

grizzled seal
#

well

#

rdm is more common, so the rdm slot is already taken

#

people also rather join fuller pfs

steep iris
#

and not a lot of people do shin ex anymore

#

I usually see like 1 shin ex party and it's usually loot if there are any up at all

boreal edge
#

while i370 made it somewhat simpler

#

but ppl still fail mechanics

maiden iris
#

When should I use Chain Stratagem, to match up with Trick Attack?

#

Just when I see TA pop up?

boreal edge
#

@maiden iris best is 5 secs after battle litany

maiden iris
#

Kk, thanks!

wet stag
#

4/5th gcd

wet stag
#

!whoclasses @wet stag

storm frostBOT
#

Classes for <Faye Midpearl>

Dark Knight

70

Paladin

63

Warrior

70

Ninja

70

Summoner

70

Scholar

70

White Mage

62

Monk

63

Black Mage

70

Astrologian

65

Machinist

57

Bard

58

Dragoon

70

Samurai

70

Red Mage

58

wet stag
#

are you proud of me rika senpai

dull radish
#

congrats <3

zinc vortex
#

is that

#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

level 70 black mage

wet stag
#

ye

vital cypress
#

black mage

#

!whoclasses @vital cypress

storm frostBOT
#

Classes for <Estelle Auberlaint>

Dark Knight

70

Paladin

70

Warrior

30

Ninja

70

Summoner

70

Scholar

70

White Mage

70

Monk

31

Black Mage

70

Astrologian

70

Machinist

70

Bard

70

Dragoon

70

Samurai

60

Red Mage

70

carmine grove
#

!whoclasses @carmine grove

storm frostBOT
#

Classes for <Taniko Shima>

Dark Knight

70

Paladin

70

Warrior

70

Ninja

70

Summoner

70

Scholar

70

White Mage

70

Monk

70

Black Mage

70

Astrologian

70

Machinist

70

Bard

70

Dragoon

70

Samurai

70

Red Mage

70

coarse gate
#

a question, now that i beat sigmascape normal i looked to savage and its ilevel requirement, so... where do i get good accessories? or do i have to buy the creation ones and upgrade those to hit 340

topaz wolf
#

sigmascape normal

#

and crafted

paper torrent
#

Yeah basically that

#

There's no real other way rn

#

You can walk in with 340 and 350 rings no problem

coarse gate
#

noted. sigma normal wasnt lucky to me this week. but its good to know since i need that 340 ilvl

#

i know i can get 340 left side gear with running delta savage a bunch.

paper torrent
#

You can farm sigma norms for bolts specifically

#

It just takes a while longer if you get shit on

coarse gate
#

i will assuming nothing better shows up.

paper torrent
#

If you are not going to do eureka for left side

#

Farm rabanastre to upgrade creation to 340

#

Not many people do delta savage

#

Also vit meld your right side unless you a tank

coarse gate
#

ok

#

guess im off to eureka then. sounds the best way to go.

#

where would i use raba coins to up gear?

visual gate
#

Is it better to use the yellow script augmented gather tools, or to craft the lower ones and overmeld them?

coarse gate
#

the crafted ones have the advantage of being universal

visual gate
#

Definitely, but as far as max potential goes?

azure hill
#

Ala Mighan will be better if HQ and pentamelded

visual gate
#

Ok thanks for sure

azure hill
#

But getting there will be a pretty big investment

visual gate
#

Im starting to realize gear is different like that then i thought. Is the 360 mendacity gear still good to aim for? I saw someone in full anemos gear that i didnt know about, and their gear was max overmelded to make insane stats

wet stag
#

yeah

#

tome gear is fine

visual gate
#

Do people go for anemos for the look, or just because maybe they already invested so much materia and the stats still are good anyways?

wet stag
#

its just easy gearing

visual gate
#

Ok thanks, im pretty new to endgame gear

azure hill
#

The equivalent gear to Anemos stuff is either crafted or time gated by normal mode raids

#

So it's pretty good for catching up

visual gate
#

Ive just been building a full ryumyaku set

#

Oh cool thanks

azure hill
#

Can't really go wrong with that investment

paper torrent
#

Full ryu takes a while

visual gate
#

I have chest, legs, a ring and boots so far

paper torrent
#

The advantage of eureka is that it's gonna be supported in the future

#

And this tier looks like gonna be great for alts

azure hill
#

The raid coming in 4.3 will make upgrades to that easily available too

#

Yeah

#

That's a thing

#

Fully upgraded Eureka gear will probably be the best at the end of the expansion

visual gate
#

Is anemos armor going to be like relic armor where it grows with patches?

paper torrent
#

U could not say that about animas or zodiacs

azure hill
#

Yeah, Anemos gear is the relic gear equivalent of this expansion

visual gate
#

Woooow why did i not realize this

#

Im glad i asked then, thanks everyone

azure hill
#

Good luck ๐Ÿ˜„

unreal flax
#

Man, Otegine is seriously fuckin trash.

dull radish
#

could be worse

unreal flax
#

It throws everything so far out of alignment that I actually lose DPS even with harder hits lol

dull radish
#

just gotta adapt <3

unreal flax
#

There's a Jump I have to delay like three GCDs because I have enough SkS that I'd end up clipping my Full Thrust combo trying to get it in before Vorpal.

#

And I can't do it before Full Thrust because Life Surge is up

pure yoke
#

morning

unreal flax
#

yo

wet stag
#

otegine?

unreal flax
#

i360 Spear

wet stag
#

ah

unreal flax
#

I'm sure it's fine in a fight with downtime, but something like O6S where there isn't really any downtime, GCD/CD alignment gets fucked up with my SkS

heavy mist
#

u just deal with it

unreal flax
#

smh, I am

#

that's why I'm complaining

#

iLevel is king and this shit is miserable

heavy mist
#

ive had like sub 2.4 GCD for like 1.5 months

unreal flax
#

I have 889 SkS without any melds

heavy mist
#

barely got back to 2.41

#

:/

unreal flax
#

To help you understand why this is so irritating, I have to use the tether after a Life Surged Full Thrust because Dragon Sight comes off CD a full second after the GCD is ready

heavy mist
#

psh

#

u dont have to

unreal flax
#

I can either clip my GCD for a full second or delay it

heavy mist
#

delay bby

unreal flax
#

exactly

heavy mist
#

as long as u hit the buffs either

#

end of disembowel GCD to before CT

#

or in between

#

true thrust and full thrust

#

its fine

unreal flax
#

I doubleweave BL+Sight. Sight comes second. This is after Dis. When Sight comes back, it's after Life Surge, but juuuust outside of the GCD, so I can either delay my GCD to get it under Sight or I delay Sight to keep GCDs rolling. Can't do both.

heavy mist
#

as long as it hits the 5th WT or FC and CT

#

๐Ÿคท

unreal flax
#

it would either way

heavy mist
#

i just resorted to use everything on CD

#

still get purple ๐Ÿ‘€ so w/e

unreal flax
#

That's what I do normally, but when shit comes off CD at the last quarter of a GCD, you end up with clipping if you just hit it.

heavy mist
#

then u just buff afterwards

#

w/e

#

small optimizations for later down the line

unreal flax
#

You've just reached the point I was saying

heavy mist
#

that i can change later

#

u have good uptime already?

unreal flax
#

Yeah

heavy mist
#

if this is o5s adn o6s i guess

#

but o7s always small things to do

unreal flax
#

It just sucks knowing where things should be lining up and having to throw allll that shit out the window because +1WD

heavy mist
#

eh

paper torrent
#

I don't like how only mnk has a nice flexible sks working

pure yoke
#

you can adjust to different sks as drg

paper torrent
#

I feel like SE made sks and sps for most classes feel so bad

dull radish
#

I don't really feel that way

pure yoke
#

high sks isn't honestly terrible for drg

heavy mist
#

SkS still good, but yeah ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

paper torrent
#

Side note

#

Eureka op

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Legit have 350 ilevel

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On all my 70s except nin now

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This is the true gear endgame

coarse gate
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the beginning of eureka is so hard

heavy mist
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yeah its rough

coarse gate
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you get 1 shot by everyone and you cant join fate trains much

heavy mist
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well u can its just hard to get to it

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and if they use aetheryte

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u get left behind

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i believe u can grind a bit by yourself to like lv 5 ish

sour solstice
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that takes hours tho

heavy mist
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yeah i know

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:/

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could also spawn low level NMs

sour solstice
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even with a fuckin 8 man group

paper torrent
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you just scum instances

stable basin
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Used to be way easier

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Late starters are screwd

paper torrent
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and just try to get low level nms

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if not leave and try again

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if you can queue with someone and have them spawn low levels it's op

coarse gate
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yeah, the big problem is that people in your party actively stop you from getting exp if they are too strong

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that is the fact i hate

stable basin
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The problem is to drop the first crystal

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After that everything gets easy

coarse gate
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that i luckily got past

stable basin
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How did you do it ?

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Full lvl 1 party ?

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Cause I tried to help a friend get it but even when they aggro and I kill them in and outside the party they get no exp

heavy mist
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i mean u can get the crystal

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without getting exp

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iirc

stable basin
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So as long as there is a chain everything is ok ?

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I'm level 11 can I make my friend get the combo when I don't get it ?

heavy mist
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i want to say yes

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but its been a while since i was low level